Lionel Nation - $100M WOKE WASHOUT: Howard Stern FIRED After 20-Year Radio Reign Ends in Disaster!

Aug. 7, 2025 - Lionel Nation

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$100M WOKE WASHOUT: Howard Stern FIRED After 20-Year Radio Reign Ends in Disaster!

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	I'll give you a few minutes.
	Give you a few minutes just to catch up.
	Got a big story right now.
	Big story.
	Huge story.
	Big story.
	You're going to love this one.
	Oh my God, you're going to love this story.
	You're going to love this story because it deals with jealousy and ambition and hatred and oh my god and Howard Stern.
	Oh it's the greatest story.
	It's the most fantastic story.
	Because like I said, it's a story that is motivated in great part by jealousy, by anger, by hatred, by mocking, by, you know, you know the routine.
	You know the routine.
	And what's interesting to note as well is that I find all of this so incredibly great because it's first of all just perfect for our subject matter.
	And the reason why is because like I said, and I'm going to say this again, people love to hate and people hate Howard Stern.
	They hate him because, first of all, I think a lot of it's based on success.
	A lot of people, as I said, are very, very jealous.
	I have not listened to one second of his show.
	The closest I was on one time was it was like some after show with Gary De La Battle.
	And that Cretan Michael Rappaport was on.
	The show has never, ever, ever, ever done anything for me.
	But that doesn't matter.
	I'm not the audience.
	I've never understood it as being funny.
	I've never, I just understand it.
	My good friend Anthony Kumia used to be on a show with a fellow years ago named something about that.
	Opi 1 Kenobi or something like that.
	And to make a long story short, I used to listen to, I never heard him when he was doing a show.
	I just never, I never listened to that kind of show.
	And then later on it was on, and I'm not going to mention the names, but I thought this is the most unfunny group of like children.
	The humor was unsophisticated, especially from people who were themselves in the business, in the business of comedy.
	And I don't want to keep setting myself apart, but I'm telling you right now, I never liked any of these people.
	Never.
	Never cared for them.
	Never thought they were funny.
	Never.
	Okay, fine.
	But they were exceedingly successful.
	So right off the bat, what I want to discuss is to talk about him.
	And if you thought he was funny, great.
	If you didn't think he was funny, great.
	It has nothing to do with what we think is funny or what we like.
	That's not it.
	This is called the end of a model to pay $100 million.
	It's not there anymore.
	It has nothing to do with his talents, nothing to do with anything.
	It's just a different time.
	That's why I tell people, and this is the most important thing for people to understand to grasp, that what we are doing on WABC on this terrestrial radio, I think if done correctly and if done in a different way, can be absolutely, positively one of the most brilliant reinventions that anybody has ever seen.
	And I mean that sincerely from the bottom of my heart.
	From the bottom of my heart.
	Now, remember, certain things, Colbert, when Colbert started, he was the hottest thing.
	He was great.
	They were making money.
	And if they make money, they make money.
	Maybe Letterman is a, you know, it's very easy to sit back and say why things are good, why things are not.
	It's interesting after the fact.
	What's interesting, I think, if you were to take somebody who was in a coma, have them wake up in a hospital and say, I want to play some things for you, guess which one of these is the biggest.
	Would people necessarily have guessed the Beatles as being as popular?
	Versus, let's say, Freddie and the Dreamers?
	Would you?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Would somebody have listened, would somebody have thought that Rush Limbaugh was as bad.
	Do you think Rush Limbaugh today, Rush Limbaugh today, would he be as great today?
	Is it timing?
	I don't know.
	I submit to you that after the fact, after you sit back and you try to try to add some type of post hoc rationalization, you realize, you get to the point where you realize, I'm just making stuff up.
	I'm just saying stuff, and I don't even know what I'm saying or why I'm saying it.
	I don't know.
	I'm trying to add some type of, you know.
	It's the same way that people who are trying to guess the mayor's race here in New York City, they don't understand what it sounds like to somebody else.
	They're applying their own 50, 60, 70-year-old sensibilities to this type of thing.
	It's that simple.
	There's nothing to it.
	And like I said, most of the people who listen to Howard Stern or who talk about him now are jealous.
	Howard Stern and Rush Limbaugh did for, how do I say this?
	In the annals of radio, what nobody else did.
	Now remember, my ideas of this mean nothing.
	What I think is interesting means nothing.
	What I find interesting means nothing.
	What I find, I never listen to a Rush Limbaugh radio show.
	I don't listen to radio shows.
	I'll maybe I'll kind of sample.
	Like I want to hear like what's this?
	What's the spot load like?
	What's this like?
	What's that like?
	All of these things.
	I'll kind of put things into perspective.
	That's about it.
	The things that I'm listening to, this morning I was listening to an old Christopher Hitchens interview on C-SPAN.
	C-SPAN book.
	It wasn't with Brian Lair.
	That's what I like.
	Now, what does that mean?
	I don't know.
	What am I supposed to Be some big intellectual?
	No.
	I was listening to this morning Alex Jones.
	I think Alex Jones is, to me, if there's somebody that I will listen to for a period of time, I will sample him more, because this is what I want to hear politically.
	What's going on and what's being said?
	That's what I want to.
	Now, so what am I trying to say?
	So, what I'm telling you is that what I think doesn't matter.
	But I do know the model.
	And there are some things that are very, very interesting to note.
	And one of the things which is important to note is very simply this.
	When certain things end, there's nothing you can really do to fix it.
	There are things that just end.
	Do you know anything about ballistic pendula?
	Anybody?
	Not pendulate.
	Ballistic pendula.
	Do you understand this?
	Ryan says, Artie Lang said that what made Stern's show so great was unsustainable because he can't do strippers and porn stars at 60 years old.
	So he tried shifting gears and it didn't work.
	You know, it's funny you say that, Brian.
	Again, this is from a man who I think was very, very funny.
	But, you know, this self-destructive, you think somebody who does heroin and drugs is funny?
	I don't know.
	People who make jokes about being pedophiles.
	I don't think it's funny.
	Now, just because, just because, just because.
	How do I say this?
	Sorry, I'm texting my wife.
	She comes first.
	I love that woman.
	Love that woman.
	All right.
	What the hell was I going to say?
	Oh, oh, no, we can do things like why things are funny, why things aren't.
	I don't know.
	When I walk into a, if I talk to a program director, I will think, okay, who's good?
	Show me the numbers.
	He's good, she's good, he's good, he's good, he's good, he's good.
	That's it.
	That's it.
	I don't even want to hear the show.
	Show me the numbers.
	Because if that's going to be the criterion, if that's going to be the criterion, and the only thing most people care about for purposes of money or for commercial radio is what numbers.
	How did you do?
	It doesn't matter.
	You can be the most brilliant person.
	Oh my God, you could be.
	If Jesus Christ didn't get numbers, it wouldn't matter.
	Do you hear what I'm saying?
	It wouldn't matter.
	It doesn't matter what you like, who's good, who's conservative.
	I don't know.
	I can talk to you about a lot of things.
	One of the things which is the most important is also there are certain groups of people doing certain things.
	And when people say, you know, money makes the world go round, yeah.
	Hang on.
	Our good friend, who is it?
	Our good friend, let me see.
	Sal Angelo, ladies and gentlemen.
	Howard Stern doesn't contribute anything to the conversation.
	I hear him speaking out.
	Nothing is being said.
	Some people may like him.
	Look, some people, they, remember, you can listen to him.
	Bob Grant, Bob Grant, I'm going to say something to you.
	And I'm going to say things, again, I'm not the audience.
	Bob Grant, for those of you who don't know, was the biggest thing ever, ever, ever.
	By the way, I need your likes, my friend.
	Pardon my finger.
	When Howard Stern was on, excuse me, Howard Stern was on, excuse me, Bob Grant.
	It was okay.
	But the reason why people liked Howard, I mean, Bob Grant was because of who he was, what it was, what he represented.
	It's what it meant to you.
	Sit down and watch, my friends.
	Sit down and watch.
	By the way, need your likes.
	I got 447.
	I need your likes, my friend.
	I need your likes.
	I need 600, 700 likes.
	The likes are critical.
	And by the way, when I do lives now, this is superior to any other time of the day.
	I don't know why.
	Anyway, if you watch Ed Sullivan, with somebody now, they say, what the hell is this shit?
	What is it?
	This is Ed Sullivan.
	Ed Sullivan.
	Ed Sullivan.
	This was the biggest show in the world.
	You want me to try to explain that one?
	I'm going to try what?
	Methodologically?
	Do some kind of weird algorithm to explain, well, this is why this.
	I don't know why this is.
	I have no earthly idea.
	This story about this stupid Sidney Sweeney or whatever.
	Who the hell cares?
	This is the most stupid story in the world.
	To me, like I said, what I like, you forget what I like.
	It doesn't matter what.
	I am telling you right now, I could stop and listen to, I am listening to my news in terms of Middle Eastern news that I'm not getting anywhere on any conventional, any kind.
	You can forget, you can forget Fox.
	You forget all that stuff.
	But I do understand.
	Look at the numbers.
	That'll tell you what's it.
	Years ago, every now and then there's something that comes along.
	I'm going to ask my wife now.
	Bless her heart.
	What's the name of that doll craze we were talking about the other day that everybody's going nuts over?
	What's the name of it?
	Remember when you have beanie babies?
	Any of you girls have Barbies, beanie babies, G.I. Joe?
	What the hell is that about?
	Remember that?
	Do you have any kind of any kind of connection to that?
	Do you?
	Do you have any kind of connection to any of this stuff?
	I don't know why something becomes so popular.
	I don't know.
	I don't know why.
	I can listen to people sometimes and I'm saying, what?
	I'll tell you right now, what makes Norm McDonald so funny?
	I don't know, but he was funny.
	And I will testament to his popularity, not his humor.
	Because his popularity, his humor, makes no difference.
	The two are not even connected.
	There are people that I'm hearing.
	I don't want to mention too, too much of this, but there are people who are the most unfunny.
	They're as funny as stillbirth to me, but they're very popular.
	That's all that matters.
	I don't care.
	Same thing with types of food.
	All of a sudden, Poke.
	Have you ever seen Poke?
	What the hell is that?
	Poke.
	This thing that comes along.
	Hey, people are going crazy over Poke.
	What's Poke?
	Hawaiian thing, whatever.
	We go to this place in the hood where they have, you can get, you know, they have different salad bars and stuff, and they got salad boards and this and pizza.
	Pizza is always pizza, is pizza, is pizza, is pizza, is pizza, it's pizza, is pizza.
	Doesn't matter.
	Some are better than others.
	Anyway, but all of a sudden, this thing comes along.
	Why?
	I don't know.
	If people are going, if people are buying it, that's all that matters.
	If people are buying it, if people are all of a sudden saying, hey, this is the greatest thing in the world, that's all that matters.
	It doesn't matter what I think.
	But let's go back to Howard.
	Everything has a trajectory.
	This is ballistic physics.
	You fire a cannonball.
	You fire around.
	You fire something that shoots.
	It'll go far.
	And then when it loses the force behind it, depending upon the arc, it'll start to lose.
	And that's it.
	It's nothing personal.
	You can hit it harder.
	It may stay up longer, but eventually it's coming down.
	It is coming down.
	When do things change?
	Everybody has known for the longest time that Howard Stern is going to come down.
	When?
	Sirius was great for the time being.
	Sirius is okay because I kind of like some I like like Willie's Roadhouse.
	I like to listen to some of the news.
	I listen to some Fox headlines.
	Kind of get an idea.
	I'm a sampler.
	But eventually we're going to say, enough of this shit.
	Somebody's going to figure out another way for the paywall or whatever it is.
	And that's it.
	Now let's talk about this.
	Howard was interesting when people got to the how do we say this?
	I need your likes, my friend.
	I need your likes.
	That's all I'm going to say, please.
	I don't want to be.
	I hate boring you with it likes.
	Anyway, when there was the FCC and you could get to, ah, yeah, here's this thing.
	This is what I was trying to say.
	Have you heard of, maybe you've heard of these, my friends?
	Have you heard of this new thing called Laboo Boos?
	Have you heard of, Mrs. L Tomi?
	We have a friend in the family.
	Laboo Boos.
	Have you seen this?
	A laboo booze.
	Laboo boos are made from Pop Marts, a Chinese-based retailer.
	Laboo-boos are the hottest thing anybody's ever seen.
	Have you heard of laboo-boos?
	Huh?
	L-A-B-U-B-U, I guess.
	Have you heard of them?
	Have you heard of them?
	This is the thing which misses.
	So for whatever reason, this is hot.
	This is hot.
	I think it's stupid.
	Who cares what I think?
	Certain things are funny the way it is.
	But I think that after a while, when you start off, for example, Nick Fuentes, you know who Nick Fuentes is?
	Nick Fuentes, what are you going to do to keep this thing up?
	Is there anything about Nick?
	Nick has got to be 11 every day.
	There's a fellow named Michael Savage.
	Michael Savage, in addition to his yelling and screaming, would show parts of his style where he would show a sense of humor.
	And then he'd mix it up.
	You've got to have some kind of a balance over.
	Now, the best part is that Howard has basically had that Robin who has made a fortune basically laughing at nothing for the longest time.
	And, you know, when you were, when there was a time when there was FCC or whatever it is, there's this, there's this thing that, how do we say this?
	This guy's banging on this wall next door.
	Anyway, there are these moments where you say, wow, did you hear how close he got today?
	Did you hear how close he got today?
	He almost said the F word.
	He almost said the F word.
	Howard, oh my God, did you hear it?
	Oh my God.
	Butt bongo.
	Hey, Jesus, this is the greatest thing in the world.
	Now what are you going to follow up with?
	What are you going to follow up with, huh?
	What?
	You got butto, bongo?
	These make fun of their retarded.
	Let's get people who are mentally ill, people who have serious mental problems.
	Hey, that's great.
	Let's do that.
	Way to go, Howie.
	Want to do that?
	If it works, listen, if it's not illegal, and if the folks are being, you know, compensated or whatever it is, that's okay.
	Just like dwarf tossing and things like that.
	I don't know.
	But the point is, it's not just because it's not my cup of tea.
	So what are you going to do?
	Well, guess what they did?
	FCC said, hey, guess how?
	What, Howard?
	There's no more ledge.
	What are you going to do?
	There's no more edge.
	You can say, fuck all you want.
	How do you like that?
	Say it.
	Say it.
	Wow, Howard Stern said, fuck.
	Okay.
	And as soon as you say it, then it becomes a crutch.
	Then you realize.
	And let me tell you something.
	Believe me when I say this.
	You're better off not using it all the time.
	Use it gratuitously, but not as a substitution or wit.
	It's just, it's just better.
	It's like a spice.
	Coriander is great.
	Not in spaghetti sauce.
	And a lot of it's not good either.
	One time we were talking about something.
	And we were talking about, forgive me, vaginal odor.
	I was on the air one time, talking about vaginal odor, and it was a commercial for, This was years ago.
	And we were talking about something to the effect of...
	Oh, I don't know.
	I forget what the.
	And I was talking around the subject.
	Okay?
	That was the subject.
	Now, I'm not trying to.
	It was an ad, it was for like FDS or something.
	It's a long time ago.
	And I talked around it.
	And I was talking about basically explaining rancid, fetid, feculent, eye-watering vaginal odor in a way that people were screaming.
	Stop it.
	And I never used a word.
	I never even said vaginal.
	Never even said it.
	Never said it.
	People were howling.
	People were getting sick to their stomach.
	I never said it.
	I was talking about parts of the body, something at or near the inguinal area.
	Dare I say a pudendal, something that one might say odoriferous, one might call lachromating, tearing, causing your eyes to tear.
	It was the most disgusting thing I've ever said in my life.
	And I never said a word.
	We were laughing about it.
	We were laughing about it, and I never said anything.
	It was better.
	If I had used any of the, if I had used any of the typical words that one might use for pudendal referencing, it would have ruined it.
	The joke would have been over in a moment.
	That's all.
	I'm making notes.
	By the way, when I talked to you prior to the show, I learned a lot from you.
	Borderlines.
	I'm making a note here.
	Vaginal odor.
	Thank you very much.
	FCC, old.
	But for what he did, let me tell you something.
	He and Rush Limbaugh put radio back on the map.
	There were people who were very good.
	Howard Stern and Rush Limbaugh did it.
	So we thank you for them.
	They really changed things.
	They really changed it.
	Syndication.
	It was cool.
	In the old days, ah, Howard Stern, radio kind of seemed kind of stupid.
	I need your likes, by the way, my friends.
	I would really love your likes.
	By the way, is anybody going to bring up the SS Liberty?
	That's always a good one, too, because remember we talk about Middle East.
	He'll say the Liberty.
	I couldn't stand that effing Pepto-Abysmal commercial that used to come on that had the upset stomach diarrhea sign that would start blasting while I was eating dinner.
	You remember it though, don't you?
	I used to love listening to Howard Stern.
	He was a real game changer.
	To see him fall like he did over COVID was just sad.
	What happened also was, as you know, he started to get into this, and this is very important.
	It was politics and MA.
	The best thing for you to do is what Johnny Carson said.
	You had better figure out a way immediately.
	You had better figure out a way to absent yourself from politics because as soon as you mention politics, you lose half of the audience, especially today.
	It's probably more, I think, more vicious than anything else.
	Stay away from it.
	Howard and his management team thought we really can make some money.
	Hang on.
	Making some notes here.
	We really can make some money going after the anti-mAGA.
	I hate Trump, COVID, Trump.
	It's easy to think.
	It's easy to think that when you're on a bus, that this is the only bus, that there aren't others, and not everybody's riding a bus.
	It's easy to think, well, everybody thinks this.
	I think this.
	My friends think this.
	Let me tell you one thing that he did, which I think was interesting.
	And I've seen this happen before.
	When you have a shtick, I like to, I always, my subject matter might be a little bit about me, a little bit about Mrs. L, maybe, but nothing about family, health.
	Just that's just not my thing.
	Politics, oh yes, I have to.
	In fact, some of the stuff that I'm bringing up regarding politics, for the most part, people don't even, I don't think most people really grasp politics.
	That's a different story because this is a political, political reference.
	But that's about it.
	But I ever talked to you about things that I think ever sound like you're bragging.
	Let me give you an example.
	Howard Stern did something which was very good.
	He was the guy who was married, had the what, two daughters.
	His wife didn't understand him.
	He'd be in the basement.
	He was this miserable guy, you know.
	And he kind of felt like he felt like he felt like he's me.
	There's some poor guy in the morning.
	He's delivering soda or delivering, you know, bread, bakery.
	They're listening to him.
	I understand what he's doing.
	Yeah, he's popular, but he's, I don't know how much money he's making, but it's kind of like me.
	I can relate to him.
	I can dig what he's doing.
	Hey, that's me.
	Howard's like me.
	He's just this, my kids don't understand me.
	My wife doesn't understand me.
	Whatever the, whatever the shtick is.
	Well, Howard decides after he leaves his wife, he marries this new one.
	How much do you want to bet?
	The moment he loses, the moment he's done being Howard Stern, she's out of there.
	See ya.
	I hope that's not true.
	I'm sure she's a fine gal.
	How much do you want to bet?
	Because this guy is not going to age well.
	When you take away his reference point, he has nothing else.
	He doesn't write.
	He hasn't opine.
	He's not going to go on news shows.
	He has a simplistic form of political background.
	What is he going to do?
	I don't know what he's going to do.
	I mean, I really don't know what he's going to do.
	So anyway.
	So he was this guy.
	Everybody kind of dug.
	Well, all of a sudden, he makes the big bucks.
	And pretty soon he's doing the premieres.
	And next thing you know, he's saying, I'm on in the Hamptons.
	I'm not even coming in.
	I'm better than you people.
	I used to hear stories at Sirius where people, I think it might have been, I don't know if it was Anthony who told me this.
	Or maybe I just saw it on YouTube.
	But people had to like step in when he walked by.
	They couldn't look at him or talk to him or make eye contact or something crazy like that.
	John Feeney says, Miss Larry Lujack and Rush listen to you channels because you surprise me.
	You know, Lujack and those guys, I like those Chicago.
	You know, I kind of like local folks, you know, local people.
	Again, the very fact that I'm doing radio, I'm more into kind of political philosophy.
	Anyway, so here comes, and thank you, by the way.
	Here comes, here comes Stern.
	He's a gazillionaire, $100 million a year.
	Didn't have time for you.
	He doesn't want to talk to you.
	He wants to talk to Paul McCartney asking the most stupid questions.
	I used to think his, his, every now and then on YouTube, the only time I ever saw him is if it made it on there.
	I thought what he did with Pat Cooper, kind of setting him up.
	I didn't care for that.
	But all of a sudden, it just lost whatever it is.
	This is the most important thing in the world.
	You know, somebody says Miss Morning not to do a political show on ABC.
	I'm very, I'm very, I would never go full throttle on WABC.
	No way.
	Couldn't take it.
	People would drive off the road because they've never heard this before.
	They've never heard it.
	It's like going in and saying, I want you to hear, I want you to hear like Anthony Braxton for the first time.
	You're going to say, what the hell is this?
	Anyway, anyway, not that I'm Anthony Braxton.
	So, make a long story short, Stern is now interviewing Paul McCartney about the Beatles.
	Come on.
	This isn't your thing, man.
	He's trying.
	He's like, well, what do I do?
	What do I do?
	He's so far gone from what brought him to the show.
	What was your original thing?
	If you want to do butt bong, go do it.
	What he would have Cleveland was, he would do the blackface and all that.
	We were talking the other day about Robin Bird and people like Larry, not Larry Flint, Al Goldstein.
	Remember Screw Magazine?
	That was really something.
	I mean, you might not have liked it, but it was so unique.
	What do you mean, that's done?
	Listen, there are things right now.
	I was watching, I was watching Roger Stone and Laura Loomer.
	Some of the most compelling stuff I've heard.
	Absolutely.
	Now, I don't think Roger Stone can do hardcore this stuff on conventional radio.
	I don't think so, because a lot of people can't handle this.
	People don't like this.
	Conventional radio doesn't like what I like.
	I want to always pull the lid off stuff and say, that's not what happened.
	That's not what happened.
	That's not what happened.
	There's a wonderful piece right now you might have heard with our good friend Tucker Carlson, who's he's like all over the place, Megan Kelly and other people.
	Anyway, they're doing this wonderful stuff about Oklahoma City.
	Oh my God.
	Oklahoma City was the biggest joke anybody's ever seen.
	If you think that's what happened, if you think you have any say whatsoever, let me know.
	So anyway, listen, do me a favor.
	It's about, I don't know, about seven minutes.
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	I'm going to continue this.
	We're going to continue on, and you can listen to all of the changes.
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	They really don't understand this.
	They don't understand how our things work.
	Now, Howard is 71 years old, 72 years old.
	Okay.
	Howard is, what, four years older than I am?
	When you are older, think of the stuff that you can do at 71 that you can't do at 21.
	I know that may not be much of a consolation, but there's nothing worse than somebody who is basically kind of sad.
	And you never want to be sad.
	All right, my friends, I thank you.
	Thank you for your kind.
	Please like this video.
	I need 500 likes.
	500 likes changes everything.
	Everything.
	Because we are still, they are fighting us now, my friends.
	They are fighting us.
	They don't want us to succeed.
	But we're going to keep trying.
	And I'm not backing up and I'm not backing down.
	All right, my friends, we love you.
	You're the best.
	Thank you so much.
	Thank you so much for your kindness.
	Thank you for John.
	I believe it's Feeney.
	Is that it?
	Is that it?
	Is it?
	Is that you, John, Johnny Boy, is that it?
	I don't have my other, hang on, I don't have my other folks here.
	John, in any event, I'm sorry, I can't go by.
	I don't have the same means of going back to see all of you great super chatters.
	I appreciate that.
	But thank you.
	All right, have a great day.
	Jump on board, WABC.
	Come on, you can do it.
	You can even bring up the USS Liberty if you want.
	I know you love to do that because let's face it, when it comes to the Middle East, that's all you know.
	All right, my friends.
	Have a great and a glorious day.
	It's great to be alive.
	God bless you.
	God bless America, whatever the hell that means.

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