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Aug. 5, 2025 - Lionel Nation
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Tucker vs. Candace vs. Fuentes — The Conservative Civil War Just Exploded
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One of the things I love the most about our group, our people, our particular enclave and conclave and consortium and coven and conspiratorium.
What I love the most, I think, is the pettiness, the backstabbing, the backbiting, the absolute petty jealousies, and nothing even comes close to what's happening now between Tucker, Candace, and Nick Fuentes.
It is not only are these folks certifiably insane, incredibly intelligent, incredibly talented, but out of their minds, pulled and attracted to something far more than just the truth, but just kind of this, they're losing themselves in the moment.
I mean, Tucker, when he was with Fox, was pretty, I mean, he was wild for, you know, Fox standards, but still not out of his mind.
Then he's like off and he's got demons clawing at him and he stopped drinking and he's a Christian and he's this and I don't know what the hell he's talking about.
And he goes off on these wild things about the unknown and the various tangential aspects.
I mean, he's fantastic.
I don't know what the hell he's talking about.
It's beautiful.
Candace Owens out of her mind.
Angry, pissed, as we say in West Tampa, and Bengal, always pay sale, bitter, angry, proving herself.
She's, you know, she hates Kamala Harris and hates this one and hates Brigitte.
Has a hard on, interesting enough, for Brigitte Macron for reasons nobody can figure out.
What is this?
Out of her mind.
But fascinating.
Great stuff.
And then Nick Fuentes.
Nick Fuentes, who is 26 years old, who might be, might be one of the most natural.
Forget his politics.
They're going to call him a racist and an anti-Semite.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, but that notwithstanding, he really, really, really knows his stuff and is one of the best natural broadcasters and can speak in a style just in terms of raw talent.
He has it.
And he's now, I mean, he's in a pissy match with Tucker.
It's fantastic.
Tucker, who says, I didn't know my father was in the CIA until he died.
Tucker, what are you talking about?
Even I knew that.
What are you talking about?
He just, he forgets.
He's kind of like Trump.
He just says things and forgets what he says.
And it's fantastic.
So we're going to talk about this.
We're going to go into this stuff big time.
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One of the best things about what we do, which I love so much, is the fact that you can jump in on this at any level you want.
You can talk about the actual subject matter.
You can pay attention to what's going on, who's saying what.
But then you can get into this.
These weird people, Anna Kasparian.
First, here's Tuck, bless his heart, interviewing this certifiable lunatic, but absolutely correct regarding, I think, what's going on in Gaza.
But she's one.
She's a radical left.
She's a lefty, a loon.
But she's over the top crazy because she figures, I've just figured this out.
Candace is like that too.
I just figured that I understand this.
I understand this better than you do.
You don't understand this.
don't understand this israel thing you don't understand israel you don't i do i understand it i feel it i feel the hate and the mangrove you you don't you can't even come close and i'm gonna be there and fronts like oh boy and then this weekend I hope you saw this weekend.
This is the most important thing.
This was so, this is how stupid people are.
I mean, some big, big names, some big, super duper names.
This is, I don't know how to tell you this, but there are some people who just don't seem to understand what's going on here.
Well, let me see if I can see if I can explain this to you.
Let's see if I can put this into perspective.
Over the weekend, there was this, I guess, this front page or this, this, I don't even know how it was phrased, but this attempt at explaining, they used the term dropped.
And it was one of these, these phrases.
I'm trying to get it for you, Ryan.
I'm trying to get the exact word.
I think it was some Western, oh, God, I love this stuff.
I had so much.
People love this baphomet and eating babies.
And oh, my God.
I love this.
These people are out of their minds, but it's great.
And if you've never been, listen, if you ever want to be a part of anything, this, this is, this is it.
You should be a part of this.
At any event, let me see if I can get this for you.
The story says, let me see.
Macron, oh, yeah, drops lawsuit.
Remember this one?
And they read this the wrong way.
Oh, yeah.
see they drops they drops uh uh they they They keep saying, oh, that she, they, oh, here we go.
Here we go.
President Macron drops, drops 22-count defamation lawsuit on Candace Owens, drops.
And everybody, I mean, people who are really pretty smart, I said, what's going on here?
And they said, wow, look at this.
They dropped their lawsuit against Candace Owens.
And all because she refused it back.
Now, it looks like he finally decided to act like a man after all.
Power cowards the truth.
They didn't drop the goddamn lawsuit.
You schmuck.
They dropped it.
The term drop is like when they drop a movie or drop a song or drop a single.
Nobody dropped anything.
And I immediately jumped out and said, what are you talking about?
Look at this.
The Macron's have dropped their lawsuit against Candace Owens.
No, they didn't.
No, no.
It's this weird.
And people are jumping.
They never even read the article from the Western Journal.
They never read it.
It's unbelievable.
They were so happy about this because they actually care.
They care so much about Brigitte Macron's gender.
They care about the, oh, because she's, we got to get these pedophiles.
Oh, for the love of God, grow up.
What are you talking about?
Seriously.
I mean, honest to God, these people are off there out of their minds, out of their minds.
It's fantastic.
So if you want to jump involved and you don't really know anything about it, this is the perfect time to jump in.
Because you can, if you like pettiness, if you like to hate, if you really like to hate, this is the group for you.
Seriously.
So anyway, so they're doing all this stuff.
And now they're trying to say, I'm MAGA.
No, you're MAGA.
We're MAGA.
And Tucker, he doesn't know what the hell he wants.
He doesn't know.
He's talking more shit than you can imagine.
I didn't know my father dick was in the group.
And then here comes Nick Fuentes absolutely, they pick on each other.
It is, I'm telling you, it's petty, it's caddy, it's fantastic.
And he went in and he savages and savages J.D. Vance with the Peter Thiel and Palantir.
He's absolutely correct.
Now, here's what's happening.
Everybody there will say something that is correct.
Everybody will say something from time to time as correct, which is fantastic.
Everybody will say something that's correct.
What's also interesting to notice, it depends when.
It depends when they're going to hear it and how they're going to hear it.
And that sort of thing.
It's the most phenomenal thing in the world.
It's...
It's...
There are so many levels of this.
Take, for example, Judge Napolitano.
Fantastic.
John Mearsheimer.
Douglas McGregor.
Jeffrey Sachs.
Even Scott Ritter.
There's no backbiting.
They don't make fun of anybody.
They don't hate anybody.
They're very, very strong, very, very, very opinionated.
Very, very wise, very smart, very incredibly brilliant when it comes to this.
But they have absolutely no, what's the word?
What's the word?
They have no anger towards anybody.
Not these crews.
Oh, no.
Even Max Blumenthal, nobody gets upset.
Nobody.
I mean, you know, I mean, they talk about subject matter, but this group, this is like this schoolyard mean girls.
It's catty.
It's very effeminate.
Very, very, I'm sorry.
It's like, this is not the way men would act like this, but that's okay.
It's, it's serious.
It's like, it's not enough for me to argue the subject matter.
I've got to go after you somehow or what have you.
And it's also interesting to note that we have lost.
We're really, I think we must be in a good place because most people in our group really aren't, they're not really, they're not really focused on anything other than they'll talk about Epstein every five minutes, but they're not really sure exactly what they want to talk about.
What about Epstein?
Well, you know, Epstein, he was, well, what about it?
Well, we've already been through that.
And they think that somehow there's a list of something out there.
It's the damnedest thing.
I'm saying, what are you talking about?
This thing has, this says, this dog and pony show, this dog don't hunt.
It's over with.
What are you talking about?
Oh, come on.
He's this and that.
Jesus.
It is one of the most phenomenal things I have ever seen in my life.
Truly.
I mean, seriously, it is one of the most incredible things I've ever seen.
And how we and all of us, by virtue of What we are doing have seriously, honestly, truthfully lost our minds.
This is the most fantastic time to be alive.
And nobody knows what they're talking about.
Nobody knows what.
And you can just see what people write and say, nobody, you know what's so funny?
I noticed something the other day.
We were involved in this kind of in a family sort of event.
And I'm looking, I'm reading texts, and I said, so I had to call up my relative.
I said, what are you saying?
Who is, are you drunk when you're writing this?
And I realized, no, people can't write.
They really can't.
They can't speak.
So consequently, people are, I thought, oh my God.
I mean, the most base of communication skills have been lost totally.
Even in a text regarding, you know, a party or something.
I mean, nobody, it's incredible.
So anyway, so then you expect people to jump in to talk about something which is really complicated, multi-multi-layered, but they have no idea what's going on.
And they take it to the most base and rudimentary there is, which is fascinating.
If you want to jump in, nobody knows the hell they're talking about.
They really don't know.
I mean, they don't know.
I was part of a conversation recently regarding Diddy.
And nobody even understands that.
These are people who were devoted to this subject, ostensibly lawyers, who don't even know the facts of the case.
And I thought, oh, it's not just me.
It's everywhere.
But they just want to argue about it, even though they don't know what they're talking about.
It's incredible.
Absolutely incredible.
Here are some other great ones too.
Epstein.
What do you think?
It's like this bone has been sucked dry.
What are these people?
What are they talking about?
What, seriously, do you think?
I mean it.
What are they talking about?
What are they talking about?
I'm not kidding.
I'm not trying to be, I'm not joking.
I'm not kidding around.
What are they talking about?
Ghelane, is she going to have a cushy?
Okay, you want to talk about it?
Yeah.
Well, what's your point?
I don't know.
Well, what do you think she's going to do?
I don't know.
Well, what's Trump going to do?
I don't know.
Well, is Trump going to pardon her?
No.
Okay.
You know he's not going to party.
He can't partner.
What are you kidding?
What are you nuts?
Can't partner for God's sake.
Don't be crazy.
Don't be crazy.
He's not going to pardon her.
Pardon her?
Well, she's going to give up.
Give up what?
What do you think she's going to give up?
And I ask people, and I'm not trying to be cute.
I say, what do you think she's going to give up?
What do you think they don't know?
What is she going to do?
Nobody knows.
Well, she's going to give up what?
The list.
They talk about the list, the book, the flight logs.
Oh, and the client list, client, that people were clients.
How many, and they say, well, there's young, he's a, he's a pedophile.
How many kids or people under the age are you even talking about?
Do you think it's him?
There you go.
They have this idea that there were these kids kept in cages or something.
It's like, no, listen, if there's one, there's no excuse for this.
But he's not a pimp in the classic.
You bring up, what about Les Wexner?
They have no idea what you're talking about.
Who is that dude and honey, that guy in France who hanged himself?
What's the name?
Brunel, Jacques Brunel.
The head of the modeling agency.
That's the guy you want to talk about.
What are you talking about?
It's like, Jesus, you don't even know the facts of the case.
What are you talking about?
I just want the list.
Enough with this list.
What is this list?
I swear to you, nobody knows what they're talking about.
Nobody.
What do you think you're going to do?
What are you going to go?
I don't know.
I just like talking about this.
I just like, you know, okay, fine.
It's absolutely incredible.
Seriously incredible.
So the best coverage so far, the best person to kind of get an idea is Alex Jones in terms of the subject matter that's being covered.
You know, recess appointments and soon.
And it's kind of dry, but that's some very serious stuff.
The negotiating.
He has a far broader brush.
And then the worst is, of course, any kind of cable news because you don't even know what the hell they're talking about.
See, this is the part which I find the most interesting.
This is the part which I find the most interesting.
We need to start from square one and ask people questions.
Forget whom you like.
I get this all the time.
I like Tucker.
What are you in?
Third grade?
What's the matter?
I like Tech.
Okay.
Well, let me tell you something that I would be worried about if I were you.
Tucker and Rogan and anybody else for that matter.
They're going to go after not Candace Owens.
They're going to go after everybody that's ever sponsored her, that's promoted her.
They're going to want to own this.
That's what you should be worried about.
That's what, nobody cares.
I don't care.
I like her because they feel like there's this bold fight for something.
It's the most stupid fight I've ever seen in my life.
To risk everything on something as stupid as this.
This is petty.
It's mean-spirited.
It's angry.
And there's something really weird about why this bothers you to this extent.
Listen, you might, I mean, I'm not advocating this for a moment, but you might think that maybe Michelle Obama might make more sense.
At least she's an American.
I don't understand this.
So we need to have somebody out there.
We need to sit back.
And you got to understand that this is fun to watch this conservative civil war and Magga Civil War.
It's fantastic.
Oh, look at this Sidney Sweeney.
That's another stupid story.
But what?
Jeff Bezos is pushing what?
Jeff Bezos is behind the PR.
Watch Jeff Bezos.
Watch him also give that thing he married.
Why they're going to give her Vogue and others.
Good news is also, and this is just great stuff.
And this is petty.
This is great.
And I admit it.
They're going to shitcan Gail King as Soon as possible because this new version, they're done with her.
Do you see this whole crew?
Everybody's black.
Listen, there's nothing wrong with that.
If people are really that good, but to think about proportionally, statistically, that you would have this, this almost ex look, you know what's going on.
DEI is still there.
Okay.
DEI is still there.
Okay.
There's this fight that's going on.
We have a fight going on also in New York regarding the mayor's race.
The best is Curtis Lewa.
Curtis Lewa, if you follow any of his stuff, is fantastic.
I've never seen him more cogent, focused, compassionate, and knowledgeable.
He knows every square inch of this entire city, all five boroughs.
I mean, like, you can't believe he is it.
He would be perfect for this.
Perfect.
Perfect.
But instead, they're trying to push this moron, Eric Adams, this mushmouth simpleton, this oaf, and this ghoulish, I don't know what, this salazzo Cuomo, who is just the worst.
And they're up against his mom Donnie.
And they keep calling him a communist.
And I, today on WABC, I'm saying, please stop calling him a communist.
Oh, it doesn't matter.
It's like, this is the same group who they don't care.
They use these words like communist, communist.
It's not a communist.
He's a democratic socialist.
He's a welfare state dude, whatever you want to call it.
So our biggest problem is we have no anchor.
We have no focus.
We have no series of platforms.
We have these kind of simple little things that we pretend to be involved with, but we really don't know anything.
We don't know about kind of who is in charge of really what.
We love these low kind of these low-rung things.
Have you seen the latest one too?
They're saying that Cash Patello's girlfriend, I think they're trying to say is a man because they said, look at her neck.
I think they saw thyroid cartilage or something.
I don't even know what that is.
People, you're focused on this, this transgender.
I think, I don't even know.
People are such poor writers.
I can't figure this out.
I don't know what the hell they're saying.
I don't know what they're saying.
I don't know.
It's so pathetic.
But anyway, he is the biggest idiot telling people on social media what he's going to do.
You think Jay Edgar Hoover would do that?
What is the matter with us?
Where's Pam Bondi?
How much you want to bet right now?
You never see her again.
How much you want to bet that one day she gets some disease, not disease, but some, she just says, you know what, I'm just going to.
Either she's asked to step down, they do some internal polling and they're saying, look, this, you have botched this thing up so much, you can't be taken seriously.
And, you know, she stepped down because of a medical emergency.
Remember that she has a kind of, I don't know what the hell it was about.
How much you want to bet?
How much you want to bet?
How much?
And also, nobody wants to talk about the fact that the president is out of his mind regarding threatening Putin.
Now, you can think that's funny all you want, and people think it's great.
That is such bullshit.
Putin, a nuclear powerhouse, you're what?
Is this being tough?
Is that it?
Is that a Candace Owens?
Like, I'm just going to say stuff and then, you know, get it because you love anger.
You think anger is somehow tantamount to leadership or intelligence?
Come on.
You know better than that.
Seriously, what is he doing?
They're laughing at us.
Putin is not the enemy.
And why is he hanging around Gomer Pyle, Lindsey Graham?
I don't understand it.
Do you think this makes sense?
Is this the president?
Is this the guy you voted for?
I love the guy, but it's like, what are you doing?
And do you have any idea of what's happening regarding APAC?
Dear God, I have tried so hard to tell people, supposedly in the know, do you know what's happening?
And they look at me like, what is this?
The policy, this almost reflexive rubber stamp policy, accepting, acceding to, endorsing everything under the sun regarding Israel and BB and APAC.
It's they're going to be pulling back from that.
People, when you've lost Cindy McCain, everybody is saying this is ridiculous.
Piers Morgan, who's an idiot, even he understands it.
People for the first time are saying, I don't know if we can keep doing this anymore.
They're just saying, that's it.
It's like the Vietnam War.
You may not remember this.
It was a time of the Vietnam War where everybody said, this is America's war.
This is a noble war.
This is about fighting for freedom and spreading.
And the domino effect and all this other kind of crap.
And then one day they said, that's it.
Can't do it anymore.
And it just stopped.
It just went like that.
That's what's happening right now.
You think anybody on Fox News is catching this?
Hell no.
Mark Levin's doubling down, doubling down.
Dershowitz, wait till you see what happens to Dershowitz.
Wait till they say, you are out of here.
You are, you are out of it.
And these people they get who go on this Piers Morgan, this savagery.
This is the biggest story.
Try explaining that to our group.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
They have no idea what you're talking about.
But Epstein, oh, we could talk about that forever.
Where's the list?
I like Candace.
I like Candace.
So we need to do something, my friends.
We need to.
We really need some remedial education on our side because I don't think anybody really gets it.
I think they're kind of like, they're kind of lucky so far.
They just, they've got a couple of things.
Like it was easier then.
We had Leah Thomas and then they had these people who were, you know, whatever these transgender types and the drag queens.
That's when everybody was the happiest because it was low-hanging fruit and it was obvious.
But this other stuff is like too.
And also, many people on our side have just become a part of a cult of personality.
They just like people.
They don't have any idea of the issues.
They just like people.
I like Candace.
I like, I like Laura Ingram or whoever it is.
It's like, this is, nobody ever said, I like Cronkite.
I like, I like Murrow.
I mean, you might like him, but it was, no, they were crafting the issues.
They weren't the subject matter per se.
It's the most incredible thing I've ever seen in my life.
Absolutely, positively incredible.
And meanwhile, the left is just gearing up, gearing up and waiting.
They're not going away.
When I say the left, not the AOC left, I mean the radical left, the deep state, the police state, the Intel state, the shadow government.
They're not going away.
Soros isn't going away.
Other people aren't going away.
They're just watching us.
They're just watching.
And we're just becoming kind of complacent and we're kind of repeating ourselves and we're kind of circling.
We really don't have a lot of issues that we understand because frankly, when it comes to complexity, we're not very good.
We don't know about history, the law, anything.
We just know simple things.
You know, Epstein, okay.
And we talk about things like kids, but nobody will talk about, well, what about CPS?
What about digital safety?
No, that's not what we're talking about.
We want to have, we have these other people who talk about, remember the ones who talked about sending kids in furniture and that sort of thing.
So anyway, so the good news is, Candace and Frontes and Tucker, this is the conservative civil war.
It exploded.
This is so much fun.
So easy to understand.
You don't have to understand anything at all.
Just follow along, watch the excitement, who's MAGA, who's not, who's Trump.
Litmist stuff.
And it's fantastic.
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