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June 19, 2025 - Lionel Nation
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The GOP Is Finished—Tucker Carlson Reveals How Both Sides Sold Us Out
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Thank you, my friends.
I just left our friend Sean Atwood for his show.
I'm jumping right from that one hour straight without surcease, without a hiccup, without any type of stop.
And now here we are with you because I hope you recognize how critical it is that we speak.
This morning's discussion was absolutely incredible.
I want to say this, and I do not want you to think this is I being gratuitous or sycophantic, but I will say this to you.
You are the most important voice now that is being forgotten.
There are people who are making a lot of noise, people from all different walks of life, different from all different various political platforms and the like, who are coming out of nowhere, speaking on behalf of the country.
But do they really know what's going on right now?
Do they really know what is happening?
Do they really have a grasp as to how critical this message is?
I cannot possibly, possibly tell you.
How critical this is.
In no particular order, what you are seeing right now that is happening to the GOP and to MAGA is like nothing I've ever seen.
You are seeing a division.
You are seeing lines of a division among the people.
And I'm just going to say, listen, we can kind of laugh all we want.
Ah, these people.
They have a tremendously important and tremendously critical fan base.
So when they say something, when they themselves are involved in a change of mind, in a change of heart, it means something.
When you have Alex, well, Alex Jones to be sure, but when you have other people involved in this, Incredible change.
And Tucker Carlson, who, let me tell you something.
Tucker Carlson is going to end up being the most important person in the immediate future.
Put your money on him politically.
Put your money on him politically.
And the reason why is very simple.
Where he came from.
He is a son of Washington.
His father was kind of a spook wannabe, sort of, maybe.
You know, I don't really know if that's true.
Number one at Fox.
He had everything you could ask for.
ability, the weird kind of And I would not be at all surprised.
And listen to me carefully.
I would not be surprised in the least if somewhere along the line somebody like a Sean Hannity said, I don't like this guy.
If there's any way we can get rid of him, it would make me a lot happier because Tucker was breathing down his throat.
And if you think that's far-fetched, if you think that's crazy, you don't know how this thing works.
You don't know how this thing works.
Sal Angeles says, do you believe Tucker will run for president?
Could.
Absolutely.
Now, if he's smart, if he's smart, He'll realize you can do far more being outside than inside.
If you really want to move the world, never become president.
No way.
Never become president.
That's a waste of time.
We're seeing something that is incredible.
Let me give you an idea.
There's a lot I want to tell you.
If you would have told me years ago that I would have agreed with Greta Vance Greta Thunberg?
I would have said, you're out of your mind.
She makes implicit sense what she said regarding Gaza.
Javier Bardem was on The View.
They cut him off.
The View.
ABC.
Leftist.
They're 100% in bed with this type of ideology.
Do you think leftists are pro-Israel?
What?
Now let me say something.
And I'm going to say this one time.
So listen carefully.
This is not about religion.
This is not about faith.
This is not about...
I'll let you decide that.
This is about the United States.
You and me talking about a country.
And asking a very simple question, do we find...
The same way I felt about NATO and Europe and why we're all of a sudden kissing Zelensky's ass.
But a lot of people said, wait a minute, Piers Morgan, who's a dimwit, Piers Morgan makes Geraldo Rivera look like Ed Witten.
Piers Morgan finally came along and says, you're starving these people.
Of course, he'd been told this a million times and all of a sudden he figures out what's going on.
Bobby Dowd says, Watch Carlson and Cruz.
Seems to me elected officials are greasier than I first imagined.
Dreadful.
Where are we headed, Lionel?
Literally.
Not in a good place.
Fishman says, how dare you, yes.
How dare you?
Please watch Tucker Carlson in one of the biggest setups ever.
He lured him in.
And Ted Cruz.
Ted Cruz.
What do they call him?
Tel Aviv Ted or something like that?
I don't know.
Who is so...
And we have to talk about this.
When people receive huge gobs of money from any lobbyist.
Remember John Dingle?
Remember John Dingle out of Michigan?
That was Detroit.
The car industry.
That's who owned him.
It makes sense.
If you're in the old days in Houston, if you're from Florida, citrus, cattle, sugar, because don't forget Miami and Cuba, this goes without saying.
People think all of a sudden, if you bring up the fact that there was a very powerful Israeli lobby, that somehow you're anti-Semitic.
Stop that.
Stop saying this.
But let me ask you a question.
Listen to this question.
This is the first thing you must know.
If there was not a powerful, well-financed, very, very, to say powerful and rich is beyond, but if there was not an Israeli lobby, whether it's AIPAC or others, do you think you would see the same number of people who have pledged fealty To Israel that we see today.
Do you think, would, if there were no such thing as this, would you see Lindsey Graham, Blumenthal, would you have seen a McCain?
Let me go a step further.
Not just Israel.
If there was not a military-industrial complex with military lobbyists, would you see the same amount of people clamoring for war?
Absolutely not.
No way.
It's not in anybody's natural...
But absolutely not.
Do you think Rick Perry, when Rick Perry was the governor of Texas, Do you think he would have been as crazy regarding Gardasil and the HPV vaccines if he wasn't paid by the vaccine lobby?
By Big Pharma?
Do you think we would have had a pan or plandemic, whatever you want to call it, without Big Pharma?
Notice how they're pushing.
They push China.
China.
Blame China.
China's fault.
Really?
How much money did China put into this?
Do I have to tell you this?
Do I have to?
Even Hollywood.
Hollywood years ago was bought off by Intel.
CIA.
From the days of Frank Capra.
Only an idiot doesn't understand how this thing works.
Period.
Only an idiot doesn't understand this.
Now the question I have is simply this.
Do you think President Trump has lost his mind?
What's your take?
I have a video that is going to drop.
I talked to an investment man.
A friend of mine is Bob Kudla.
One of the most fascinating takes there is.
And you've got to listen to it.
And I like to listen to it.
He's an investment person.
And he says, let me tell you what's going to happen.
This is the best thing.
Iran is ready for a...
Iran is ready for a revolution.
How many of you have heard this?
How many of you have heard this?
Iran is ready for a revolution.
And what this is going to do is this is going to promote, prompt, accelerate, wheedle, cajole, push, nudge, nudge.
The people of Iran to overthrow these autocratic, theocratic mullahs.
You believe that story?
You believe that?
Have you heard that story before?
That they're really Western at heart.
That they love us.
They want blue jeans and pink hair and mini skirts.
They're tired of the morality police.
And the people of Iran...
They're regular folks.
You heard that story?
You think that's what they want?
Do you think that's what...
Do you think if somehow the bad guys, the theocratic not hegemons, but the That we can replace them.
There'll be this swarm.
Who do you think they have in mind to replace?
You ready for this?
I cannot believe this.
Who do you think?
And I heard some Israeli folks say this, and some Americans as well.
Who do you think they want to take over once Ayatollah Khamenei and others are?
Who?
Tell me.
Thank you so much.
Did you see this one?
Pahlavi, the Shah's son.
I couldn't write this better myself.
I would have been straight to Langley and said, what are you people doing?
This is Operation Ajax.
Get as far away from the Pahlavi, from the Shah's family, as you can get.
Get somebody else.
Get somebody who might look like a cleric or somebody who, you know, is really one of ours.
Get a moderate.
We'll put somebody in.
But no!
This is how brain dead they are.
Oh, no, no, no.
You don't tell us what to do.
We're going to tell you what to do.
When I heard this, I couldn't believe it.
I couldn't believe what I'm saying.
I was before listening, it was, they said, Tehran is in darkness and the president's in a war room, in a situation room.
I think, dear God, is this the Trump I think I knew?
Tell me, tell me that they're just going to change their mind.
They're going to meet.
Tell me they're just going to have this meeting.
And that some envoy or somebody is going to meet with some envoy or representative of Iran and they'll iron out some deal.
Bibi will be furious because he wants complete and total surgical excision of the power base.
They want regime change.
They want these people done.
They want...
Will Trump ever back off and say, we've had enough of this?
I have put my country to the test.
I have risked the world, and I'm not sure anymore why I'm doing this.
I understand the money.
I understand the lobby.
I understand the bill.
Why am I doing this again?
How is the world benefiting?
See, one of the things that people, I think, forget is, I think, deep down inside, Trump is a decent guy.
Now, he's decent.
Sometimes he's a little crass.
Sometimes he's a little bit too name-brand.
But I want to show him just like Carter supposedly.
No, was it Carter?
Yeah.
Anyway, somebody showed pictures of Gorbachev.
Or showed grandchildren.
Pictures of their grandchildren.
And somebody needs to get to the president and say, this is your legacy.
Let me ask you a question.
Do you believe that President Trump was forever changed, forever affected by the assassination attempt?
Do you think President Trump was Affected positively, permanently, by the assassination attempt?
And if so, how do you think it affected him?
Did it make him appreciate life more?
Did it make him say, and I think Bibi said, or somebody said, that Iran was involved in a number of attempts to kill him.
Do you think Trump bought that?
Do you think he believes that?
Do you think he thinks about that?
How has that affected him?
Has it made him appreciate life more?
Has it made him more vindictive?
Remember what got George W. Bush really pissed off?
I mean, focus on Saddam Hussein.
They tried to kill my daddy.
Remember that?
These are things which are so important because they decide and they...
Do you think that's possible?
How do you think this matters?
If I sat down with the President and I would say, Mr. President, do you understand what you're going to do, what your legacy is?
Nobody is saying, sir, not to prevent or not to try or not to negotiate against nuclear weapons.
Nobody.
But nobody.
Where did you get this idea of going after them, dropping the mother of all bombs or bunker busters?
Where did you get that from, sir?
Where did...
Who was it who...
How did this happen?
What was it that made you think that?
What was it that put you in the position, sir?
Of thinking, this makes sense.
Why would you ever do that?
I would show him pictures.
And by the way, remember, nobody's talking about Gaza anymore.
Nobody.
Nobody's saying anything.
Freedom says, for many decades, USA has been the survivor of the world's issues, both financially and physically.
We are...
That's an excellent point.
I'm going to say something which I think is the most important and I thank you for that.
I thought we were the good guys.
I thought we were the good guys.
I thought we were responsible for doing what was right.
I don't understand what this is about.
Why are we being told?
Why is this?
Why must we do the...
Now, I don't know whether you see it that way.
And let me tell you something.
They're going to be saying things like this.
Especially people who are basically not paid off, but people who are financially incentivized to say this.
Iran has said death to whatever.
Iran has said this.
You know what we've said?
Are you telling me that you want to basically have a regime change, whatever that word means?
Because remember, whenever you replace a regime, there's a vacuum.
And the vacuum that is there is critical.
The vacuum is what's really dangerous.
But you want to do this because they said something?
Because they said this?
I know they said.
They said terrible things.
Do you know what you hear all the time?
Listen to what Lindsey Graham says.
How is it that we can target assassinate the leader of a country?
This is their clear.
What if somebody went after our Pope?
Our Pope.
Catholic's Pope.
Whatever.
Christians.
What if somebody targeted Billy Graham?
I'm trying to think of the analogy.
What would you think?
How long are people going to put up with this?
How long are they going to say, well, that's the way it goes?
Well, that's the way it goes.
They tried to kill Putin recently.
you think he you think he likes that is he supposed to he and trump are under our Whatever happened with that one?
How is there a reconfiguration of world powers now?
Turkey, Russia, the Middle East.
BRICS is going to be stronger than you could imagine.
Who is behind it?
When Ted Cruz couldn't answer basic questions about Iran, how many people there were, where it was, what is their societal makeup, he couldn't answer the question.
He wasn't of any interest in it.
This is a very smart guy.
Ted Cruz is probably one of the smartest people.
This guy is it.
And Tucker just destroyed him.
Made him look like a fool.
Why are we doing this?
Do you know what it's like to be in 10 million people?
And Tehran's huge.
What if they told New York that?
How is it that we look at these people and say, well, that's a way to go.
Think of the anger that we're inspiring.
Why are we doing this?
And I'm going to ask you another question.
This is the question which many people are asking.
And it's one that if you go on Fox News or something, they'll be able to answer the question flat out.
But the question is, why can't we have a nuclear bomb?
Everybody else does.
Whoever has a nuclear bomb has incredible bargaining position.
They have the incredible ability to negotiate for themselves.
Why can't we have a nuclear bomb?
Why?
Explain that one.
How does that work?
How?
Go ahead.
Answer me.
Well, it's better off that they don't.
Okay.
Why can't we have one?
Well, because you're crazy.
Why can't you're crazy?
We're not crazy.
We're the United States and other people.
Everybody else has it.
And I love the way they ask.
You can't...
I mean, I don't know, but everybody seems to indicate that Iran, excuse me, Israel, has a nuclear weapon or nuclear bombs.
I mean, wait.
But you can't answer that.
And it's a joke, and they play these games where they're pretending maybe they do it.
I don't understand it.
None of it makes any sense to me.
Why are we doing this?
And let me also tell you, I was just telling Sean Atwood this, and I want you to listen to me carefully.
You are going to hear one day somewhere there's going to be something to the effect of Breaking news.
And that word breaking news means nothing to most people because everything's breaking.
But somebody's going to say, you're going to see, a nuclear weapon, a nuclear device versus a bomb, because when people think of a bomb, they think of Hiroshima.
But a nuclear weapon was detonated in wherever.
A nuclear weapon, a nuclear device.
And that word nuclear is going to change.
Everything.
Everything.
For 80 years, never had one go up.
Never.
And the last time, we did it twice.
80 years.
And you're not going to be able to figure out who's who.
You're not going to be able to figure out who was responsible, who helped or aided and abetted.
We don't know.
There's going to be disinformation.
There's going to be...
And the information...
It won't be CNN that breaks the news.
It won't be Fox News.
It'll be whoever.
And a new legion of folks are going to be making news, and that's Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson and others.
People that you never...
People with tattoos and one guy who just...
And it's going to change everything.
And already you're seeing a realignment.
You're seeing this dissolution of this left-right world.
Those words don't mean anything anymore.
Get ready.
I mean, this is like nothing you have ever seen, ever.
So my friends, I want you to listen.
Oh, John McGuire said, Couldn't they just have bought a few?
Well, you know, it's not necessarily...
It's a little different.
So I don't know.
It's a very, very good question.
I just hope that one day we hear President Trump says, all right, that's enough.
Send this one over.
Send whatever.
Send some envoy.
Send some whatever.
Marco Rubio.
I don't know if you're able to do this.
Marco Rubio is so aligned.
Keep Ted Cruz out of this.
Because remember, Ted Cruz...
Listen to Rand Paul.
Listen to Tucker.
And if you pray, if that's your thing, I ask you to pray.
Because we are going to need it like you cannot believe.
My friend, it has been a long day for me, and I'm sure for you as well.
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Great story, great piece posted with Nancy Grace.
She's the star.
You gotta watch this.
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Sometimes people are unsubscribed.
I don't know why.
It's the damnedest thing.
So John McGuire couldn't get higher.
Freedom Fishman.
Bobby Dowd.
Sal Angelo, thank you so much for your kindness and your consideration and your generosity.
We will see you again mañana, ladies and gentlemen.
I got more stuff dropping later, so make sure you're subscribed here.
And until then, as I always say, it's been an exhausting day.
A very frightening day.
Very frightening, because the potential is like you've never seen.
In any event, my friends, as we always say, the monkey's dead, the show's over, sue you.
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