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April 5, 2025 - Lionel Nation
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Epstein, Giuffre & Diddy—Lionel Reveals the Dirty Truth They Don’t Want You to Know

Epstein, Giuffre & Diddy—Lionel Reveals the Dirty Truth They Don’t Want You to Know

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Let's talk about...
Epstein.
Shall we?
Diddy.
The underbelly of our legal system.
So on Monday, Virginia Gouffre, she's a prominent accuser of Jeffrey Epstein and Prince Andrews.
She claimed on Instagram that she was involved in a severe car accident in Australia resulting in kidney failure and a prognosis of just four days to live.
You know who she is.
She's famous from this photo with Prince Andrew and Jelaine Maxwell in the background.
Now, she said she'd been hit by a bus.
She posted this photo of herself.
She says she's dying, but Western Australia police said that the incident occurred on March 24th, and it was a minor crash, and there were no reported injuries.
Now, the bus driver has been speaking out and saying, actually, this is what happened, and it was not a fatal accident.
Her spokesperson letter later said she's in serious condition, but that Instagram post was only supposed to be a private post for Facebook.
She didn't mean this.
Medical staff later indicated that she's not in a life threatening situation and she's expected to recover.
So this raises concerns about her credibility.
Or was this supposed to raise concerns about her credibility?
What are we to make of this?
Lionel from the Lionel Nation YouTube channel has been following this Epstein case and he joins us to discuss.
So, what do you make of this now?
Her as a main accuser?
Well, a couple of things.
First of all, you said that someone said, this wasn't meant to go on Instagram.
It was meant for Facebook.
Excuse me.
What the hell does that mean?
Who cares?
The issue is, did this or did this not happen?
That was your answer?
Oh, it was meant for Facebook.
Oh, okay.
Well, like her private Facebook account, not for public Instagram.
Either way!
Right.
I thought this was a morgue shot when I first saw it.
Levitity, the eyes.
I thought, oh my god, they killed her.
And I said, no, no, she's in the hospital.
Check out the picture again.
Now here she is, minutes away, days away from death.
She's in extremis.
She's got a necklace on.
She's got earrings on.
She's got her long hair.
She's wearing a camisole.
She has her left breast kind of schmoozed up.
Now, first of all, She has, I think, a sticker or something for some kind of telemetry or monitoring.
Everybody that I've ever talked to says, if you're in the hospital, you are days away.
First of all, you're going to have nothing on that can get in the way if they have to intubate or take you to the hospital.
You put the gown on, and the gown's not to embarrass you anymore.
It's to get to you right away.
This is ridiculous.
That's number one.
Number two...
If you read this, remember, ostensibly it was written by her.
She writes this in an almost jaunty style.
Alright, oh, she starts off, she says, well, let me tell you something, this has been one hell of a year, and let me tell you, if you've been hit going 110, she says, kilometers, it doesn't matter whether you're in a tin can or whatever.
Oh, and by the way, and then she slides into, and I've got four days, I've got renal kidney failure, which is a bit redundant, and they'll switch me.
Bye, cruel world.
I want to kiss my babies.
Thanks, everybody.
All right, buddy.
Thank you.
Good night.
It is the most bizarre.
I'm thinking, wait a minute.
Who?
Did somebody get her?
This is the most important person in the most important criminal case that has just been rekindled, revitalized by virtue of Pam Bondi doing I don't know what.
They have these files that I guess we forgot about that.
I'm going to make sure that we take all those boxes by gum.
We don't know what happened.
And when they looked into this, nobody had any record of who she was, where she was, and what got me the most was the complete and total disinterest on the part of the media.
They didn't even care.
It's like, wait!
Is she alive?
Did somebody put her up to it?
Is she in some, not safe house, but is she alive?
The amount of inaction at every level of the media astounded me.
Absolutely astounded me.
Yeah, so the mainstream media is not interested in whether she lives or dies.
Just like they were not interested in the details of...
Epstein killing himself, right?
And so they've got a narrative and they're fine.
But it's important to talk about her credibility as a witness, obviously, even though she settled most of her cases.
Could you surmise she's a damaged person for what has happened to her?
Damaged in terms of credibility or damaged mentally, socially, spiritually?
She's a whack job, no matter what she said.
Listen, she's estranged from her husband.
I don't think her kids are with her.
I don't know what she's doing in Australia.
I don't know any of this stuff.
Remember, this is a woman who claimed that Alan Dershowitz had been involved with this, and then said, you know what?
I think I made a mistake.
I don't know about you.
But there are very few people who look or sound like Alan Dershowitz.
But I'm not suggesting it happen or anything like that.
But what?
I mean, mistaken identity?
Listen, you can change your mind.
And again, I'm not suggesting it happen.
So her credibility was weird to begin with.
Remember all those cross-claims?
Remember Dershowitz sued boys, boys sued Dershowitz.
They were back and forth, and you did this, and you didn't.
And that just kind of went away.
But here's the thing which I wonder about.
When Pam Bondi said, we're going to bring this forward, there is a theoretical possibility that these cases might be revived, that maybe there is a victim who never settled, who never disposed of their case.
Would it be possible for somebody in either a revived case or a pending case to bring Joufray back at the end?
As a witness to corroborate or to establish where she was, and imagine that line of cross-examination.
So, you're the same Virginia Giuffre who had four days to live?
Who gives you four days as a number?
Normally, you know, when people are, they always give you that stuff on TV.
She's in guarded condition.
She's in what?
I don't know what.
She's been elevated to.
I was like, what?
That weird, that Overton window of hospital, you know.
We don't know what that is.
So the whole story stinks to no end.
And I'm wondering, I was thinking, wow, Pam Bondy announces the reintroduction of these files.
And I wonder, I just wonder if maybe somehow somebody says, let's...
Let's take care of the loose ends in Australia.
But then I thought to myself, imagine you're a hired hitman, and your job is to take this woman out, and you're going to use a school bus?
None of it.
I mean, the whole story.
But here's the best part.
It's been forgotten.
The way they...
I was just doing a little...
They said, bus driver clears up.
Clears up?
What do you mean, clears up?
Did or did this not happen?
How did you...
Tell anyone that you had four days to live.
Where is this picture from?
The bus driver says, I don't know what you're talking about.
Nobody looked at it and says, can you bruise that quickly?
The thing is, you could tear this apart if Harvey Levin or anybody cared.
It's like that ship has sailed, whatever you want, kind of like the Diddy case.
That thing is so...
We've lost.
We can't hear anymore.
You know when you go to a loud concert and you hear the noise and you come on and your ears are ringing?
That's the way we are with this guy.
Whatever.
Who's new this week?
What new name?
It's just gone.
We can't figure it out.
The Busby lawyer still, I think, is fantastic.
Can't even appear Prohawk VJ.
Well, so what that update is, is that he applied to practice in New York, which you're allowed to do as a lawyer.
If you're taking a case in a different state, you just get sort of a temporary permission to practice.
And the state of New York said, no, thank you.
So he was not able to bring some of the cases on behalf of his practice, right?
Well, what happened was, in New York, where I'm a member of the state, the first department, the state, so to speak, Bar Association, The federal has their own thing.
You have to be a member of the Southern District of New York.
Now, if I were to go to the Eastern District of Montana, I apply...
ProHocVice in advance.
And it's very simple.
I get a local lawyer, somebody who vouches for me, somebody who will accept process.
They make sure, okay, you're a member of another bar association.
It's easy peasy.
No problem.
We just don't want somebody walking in.
I don't even think that had happened because I think the allegations were maybe that he had done this before without.
Applying or being a member.
It's amazing how you would think somebody would check immediately whether you have any...
Anyway, it's the silliest thing.
I don't understand it.
What do you make of it, though?
Besides all the things that...
It's paperwork, right?
So do you think that those plaintiffs would find another lawyer because...
Jay-Z had said the lawyer coerced these victims into filing these lawsuits, and Busby is saying, oh no, they absolutely wanted to file the cases, so they should then file them with somebody else if they're that motivated.
Well, you would think, I feel sorry for, or always concerned for, the plaintiff in this, but remember what we've said initially, from the beginning, no matter what happens, no matter what happens, You still have to try this piece of crap,
and you're going to have to go before a jury somewhere at some point and explain when this was 30 years ago and what happened.
I was reading something before from trying to keep track.
Every week there's another person who says, yes, I was there, and I saw Michael Jackson was there, and I'm just picking up a name.
Where is this going?
We have been inundated.
Somebody very close to the system, basically a criminal, said, who had either been in the federal system with a lockup, said, he's not going anywhere.
There is nothing.
They are so tired of him.
And so mad at him.
Busby or Diddy?
The feds.
The feds.
It's like, this is enough.
There is nothing.
Everything about you.
Busby's not his.
Busby's trying to sue him.
But the case is just, people want to just be done with it.
There's no, and we still can't figure out what's going to happen.
With the Trump administration.
Remember recently what Pam Bondi just announced with the death penalty in the Luigi Mangione case.
They didn't see that one coming.
And he sure as hell didn't see that.
So now we wonder, what is a Pam Bondi DOJ going to do?
They're going to look at this and say, is this, and this is what I've said, it's not that what you've done is not wrong.
Is this federal court worthy?
Is this...
Al Capone?
This?
Federal court is international terrorism and it's bad.
There might be the sense of the new DOJ saying, look, this isn't our case.
This was yours.
We don't like it.
And maybe in a very extrapolated way of looking at it, maybe this administration is more of a kind of a sentimentality towards Celebrities.
You know what I mean?
Maybe they can kind of dig them more.
This case, who are the victims?
How old do you think the victims are today?
Remember...
In the baby oil parties?
What?
Are they 40 years old?
No, because they're 25. Oh, no, no, they were 20 at the time.
So, yeah, they're in their 40s.
I mean, so, remember when Trayvon Martin, a terrible shooting with Zimmerman, when we saw this little picture of Trayvon Martin in basically, you know, kindergarten, we thought, oh my god, he shot a kid.
No, it turns out he's like 6 '5".
Well, when you see the victim, imagine you're in court, and you've heard about these, and somebody comes in who's, I don't know, 40 years old, looks like a regular person, sits down.
Immediately, where is that sense of, I'm going to get this bastard?
It's not there.
I'm not suggesting nothing happened.
But now, if there were children, if this was current, if there were pictures, if there were something, you're going to have these people trying to convey to a jury, this is what happened?
And can you imagine the cross-examination?
How were you there?
You were an adult, right?
So what you're saying, though, is that...
The air is out of the balloon.
And that perhaps the Biden administration was motivated to give some red meat to people who understood that there were these sex rings involved in Hollywood and music.
And they got some.
And that might be it.
We were hoping that they would all fall.
That we would see it all.
And it may have just been...
A little red meat to the lion, and that's it.
If this was a state case, I would say, maybe, I would say, I understand completely.
It happened at Hollywood.
Yeah.
But federal, and they got him, remember when they got Diddy at the hotel on 57th Street, and they went, wait a minute, what are we doing this?
He's in there with Sam Bankman Freed, he's with terrorists, and Diddy?
Now, I'm not trying, again, I'm not trying to minimize it.
But the same thing is when you have drug dealing.
If you have somebody who's doing nickel and dime bags, you're never going to see that in federal court.
You're going to see big volumes.
I never understood this one.
And what's happening is that we are so inundated.
We are so habituated.
We're so deafened by all of the people who apparently were involved in this.
There's no sense of anger or we're going to get these guys.
Let me tell you something.
We haven't seen Diddy in a while.
Have you seen pictures of him?
He's got white hair and he doesn't have his dye.
He doesn't look, from what we're hearing, from what I'm hearing, he doesn't look anything like he used to.
And if there is a jury who looks at him and you see somebody who looks like, who's this?
What happened to, I mean, because if you thought you were going to get into the deep, you know, the underbelly of Hollywood and the Jay-Z.
There's no Jay-Z there.
You're going to see a guy who looks like Bill Cosby or something who sits down there and goes, who's that?
That's Jay-Z.
That's Jay-Z?
Who's this one?
Well, she was 25 years old.
One of the things I'm sorry to say, and I want people to understand this, and this is terrible.
If you can't prove a case, it doesn't mean the case didn't happen.
It just means that somebody's not going to be found guilty.
There are some cases, as you know, that you just, for whatever reason, it...
It's hard to explain, or there's no oomph there.
But this is, this did something, I think, to really affect and to taint and to affect and contaminate the way we look at celebrity cases like this.
Because people are going to be saying, and you know this, is this another Diddy case?
Is this another Diddy case?
Where are we going?
I mean, all these people are saying, oh, come on.
And I'll tell you, Jay-Z's lawyer, Spiro, just got the case dismissed against the New York mayor.
Remember his case?
Yeah.
He did that.
He did Alec Baldwin.
He represented Elon.
I mean, this guy's on a roll.
So he is...
I mean, do you know what he did?
He's the guy.
He's the guy.
He got the DOJ to sign off.
To dismiss the case against the mayor of New York City.
Yes, but that case...
That case was...
It should have been.
No, it should have been.
And for those keeping track, I know this may be a bit arcane, but when a federal judge has to call in somebody else and say, what do you think?
Should I dismiss this after the DOJ wants to dismiss this?
You're questioning?
It doesn't make you look very powerful.
Federal judges are imperious.
They are gods.
So anyway, the whole courts are really...
This has not been a good year for the DOJ.
And I don't know what's going to happen now after Pam Bondi gets a hold of it.
And let me tell you something in conclusion.
I am not...
A fan or a supporter of the death penalty.
However, in the case of Mangione, I know we were supposed to talk about this, if ever there was a guy who deserved it, if they can prove it with all of his writings and all of his planning and all of the statutory involvement that one has in a classic death penalty case where you thought it and you planned it and you made this particular gun and it was a ghost gun.
You're going to be hard-pressed to say, well, this is a death penalty case.
I just had to throw that in there because I despise this punk.
And now they're saying he was framed.
Alright, well, we'll see them make that case.
Alright, well, I'm annoyed because, yeah, I want...
I want more.
I want to see a domino effect inside of Hollywood for all the evil that we know goes there.
You know where you're going to see it?
I don't know if I have any time.
You know where we're going to see it?
When they cut the USAID money.
Now, we'll just use that as a shortcut version of this.
When Elon realized this, the money that was going to all of these people, we will never know.
Have you ever noticed why the number of folks, the number of parents in Hollywood had this inordinate number of transgender kids?
Oh yeah.
I don't know about you.
I don't know any transgender kids.
I'm in New York.
I can stand in a corner and anything you want will walk by.
Vikings, any kind of...
But we don't have that.
Yet in Hollywood...
Go down the list.
10, 12. They have multiple transgender kids.
Don't be surprised if we find out one day that they were a kid.
People kind of on the balls of their arse who basically took a payout to take little Johnny and kind of push it along.
And now that you don't have that...
Oh, you think I'm kidding?
No, but...
Explain to me.
Explain to me.
How do you explain all these people like the Alec Baldwin's and the Carl Reiner's and the De Niro's who were basically really not that popular who were put out there to be the most vociferous against Trump and now all of a sudden that gravy train's gone.
Don't be surprised if people...
I'm following you.
Never thought of that but I'm with you.
These people are evil.
No, no, these people are, and their kids are, let me tell you something, if you have nothing, and you have a child who might, I don't know, and this one's daughter has it, and whoever's, I can't go, yeah, go down the list, and you think to yourself, you know, little Timmy, how much did they get for that?
Maybe not the full surgery.
Oh, I wouldn't put it past them at all.
Not at all.
But there's no more money there.
That's been cut.
See ya.
What happens now?
Yeah, I get what you're saying.
All right.
Well, this is what you can expect from the Lionel Nation YouTube channel.
Thank you for this, Lionel.
I really appreciate it.
And I'm sorry we ran.
Yeah.
We ran a little late today.
So thank you for sticking around.
And it's always good to see you.
Indeed.
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