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Feb. 26, 2025 - Lionel Nation
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MSDNC and Maddow Are Next and Then It's CNN: The MAGA Juggernaut Continues
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I'm trying to think of a time or a subject which I find as fascinating as what's going on with MSDNC, Joey Reed, and Rachel Amato.
And there's so many things going on in addition to that, but I...
I am only naturally drawn to that which I find interesting, that which I can connect to, and that which I feel some kind of a sense of connection to by virtue of my history and the like.
I will tell you that you must understand this wonderful world of media.
Corporate media, and why one of the greatest, greatest lures of doing this is not having to deal with these people.
You must understand something.
In my life, I've dealt with criminals, judges, drunks, reprobates, some of them all in the same category.
Lawyers, people, politicians, I've been in the entertainment world, club owners, family, politics, etc.
You have to understand how corporate media collectively works.
And you have to understand That you're seeing the sun setting of a group of people.
And this is the most interesting.
You're seeing a group of people seeing the end of their world.
It's this end.
And I see it in radio, FMAM, terrestrial.
But this also, things like Sirius.
Have you seen Sirius?
Sirius XM Sirius?
How new media are changing that.
You see, MSDNC would be one thing if there wasn't this thing that we live in called this.
Digital platform, in a way.
So what we're seeing right now is something so fascinating and so interesting.
And we have this case of Joy Reid.
Joy Reid is one of these people I've met throughout my life.
Who thought their shite didn't stink.
Is the rather crude way of saying it.
But they thought they were bigger and badder than anything that was...
Well, anything that they were provided.
Or they had no reason to believe this.
And then you had corporate folks who didn't understand the star.
And then you had the people who were the line producers, associate producers, cameramen, sound, TDs, all these ADs, all these folks who felt, who had been there for so long, and they felt, I am a part of this.
They're like the deep state.
The person who's been the cameraman, who's been union, a guy who's been behind the camera for 30, 40 years, whatever it is, or the guy who, you know.
And they're great, but some of them are good, some of them not.
So you have this weird group of folks, and each of them feels a certain autonomy, a certain fiefdom, a certain level of this.
You also have somebody like Rachel Maddow who thinks, I'm the star, I'm the Sean Hannity.
Sean Hannity is alpha male at Foxmail.
He's been there the longest, he's untouchable.
He's just been there the longest, and well-deserved.
Each of them have that.
Every station has the star.
Years ago, you should have seen, like on SiriusXM, when Howard used to butt heads with Opie and Anthony.
That was weird to see that dynamic.
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And I just did a brand new video breaking down Rachel Maddow's affect, the clipped librarian assistant principal kind of speech.
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Kelly McKinnon says...
Well, thank you, Kelly.
Thank you for your love and your support.
And Underlining Inc.
says Elite Bloodlines.
Sort of.
I don't know on whose part.
Again, I love...
I love a message I can't figure out, or maybe I just don't get it, but I like that.
It's like, what does that mean?
In any event, let us begin.
This is the most fabulous.
Number one.
Two things are happening, and this is the rarest of the rare.
We are seeing the end of a kind of a medium, a style.
For example, the end of disco, the end of rock, the end of classic rock, the end of whatever it is.
That's that.
The end of bell bottoms, vaudeville, disco, sideburns, facial hair, whatever.
That's a style change.
That's one thing.
Now, the next thing is the end of a medium.
AM, by virtue of my generation, I can tell you, I remember 45s, buying a 45, having an album.
I remember cassettes and 8-tracks, and I remember Quadraphonic was here for like an hour.
And then there was AM, FM.
A-M-H-D.
I was, years ago, we were on W-O-R.
The prior O-R.
And there was a, the owner then had this thing about A-M-H-D.
High definition, high AM radio.
What does that even mean?
It's almost oxymoronic.
What's it, anyway.
And then we got into some other stuff.
And then I remember right, right when Dial-up modems.
And one time hearing somebody explain to me a website.
What is a website?
We didn't know.
It's the most wonderful thing to be a part of it.
And then all of a sudden there were modems and dial-up modems and regular modems and Wi-Fi and all of that.
That is the delivery system, not the message.
This will always be.
Chatter.
Stand-up, explication, spoken word, acting, whatever you want to call it, singing, AI maybe.
Anyway, how you deliver it is a different story.
When SiriusXM started, oh my god, that seemed like so great and cool and neat.
Before that, there was something which was internet.
We were on something called IATA, which preceded bandwidth.
Bandwidth!
Okay?
You got what I'm saying?
You got the message, and you've got the particular delivery system.
Okay.
Each delivery system has something which is a problem.
AM had its wonderful glory days.
AM was this wonderful thing that...
How do I say this?
AM is what people remembered when...
They were taking their transistor radio to the beach, or people had their little radio under their pillow, and they remembered hearing something, maybe a skip, or maybe hearing sometimes, you know, WSM, the Grand Ole Opry, or whatever it is, and skip was a night, because skip would bounce off.
Skip would bounce off of clouds, and it could actually go, Behind the horizon.
You hear what I'm saying?
Skip AM works like this.
So it technically could go below the horizon, whereas FM is straight.
Okay?
Great.
You got that?
Terrific.
And there are people who remember the sound of WNFN 1470.
They still live it.
That's Over with.
I don't want to hear that again because it sounds old.
It sounds anachronistic.
Not only that, people today don't understand what that is.
77 WMZ 970 WMZ 1475 What is this?
Jingle packages.
Jingles.
Oh my.
God!
It's over!
No!
Don't!
Okay.
Then you have those people.
And then they have people who have radio stations and things.
They're almost like vanity.
Say, you know what?
I'm going to own that.
I know one guy who was out in a mountain somewhere.
He says, I'm going to get me a signal.
And I want to own a radio station.
Okay.
You can buy these things.
In the old days, you would buy a radio station like an old...
You got a really good clear channel type of thing, like a gospel.
Okay, fine.
Then came cable.
Different story.
Different attitude.
Different everything.
And then, move that over there.
That's the people.
Then you have the people running it.
You've got the sales people.
The greatest radio show ever.
Ever, ever.
Pilgrim says, I was on the BBS boards with a Commodore 64. Oh, have you ever seen the people who still use those billboards?
Today, it's the saddest thing.
It looks like they're still using this.
No ownership of anything.
Everything will be rented, a.k.a.
the money train.
But a CD once versus renting the song thousands of times, genius business model.
Yes.
And now, We don't even have that.
There's no need to in any event.
But let's talk about this.
And thank you, by the way.
Let's talk about this.
Let's talk about the people who work at these.
Every station had their store.
Every station thought they had their store.
I was at WABC when we had at the same place Bob Grant and Rush Limbaugh.
Together, On the 17th floor, one's at one end, and the other one's here.
Oh, my God!
Now, we're not talking about egos, per se, but just the, I'm sorry, I'm with, that's Bob's, oh, no, that's Rush's team.
Rush's team, they're down there.
No, no, that's, Rush has his own studio.
No, no, that's Rush.
Oh, okay.
No, no, don't touch that!
That's Rush.
And I'm not saying being mean, but I'm saying it was just like, wow.
Okay.
And you?
Well, I'm just a regular guy.
All right.
You got it?
And then within that, you have the salespeople.
WKRP was the greatest show ever.
Herb Tarlick, the salespeople.
The salespeople are, it's got to be, it was, the toughest, depending upon where you were.
This was, oh my god, selling radio time?
Oh dear, some were great, some weren't, some were whatever.
Okay, that's radio.
Promotions?
We never understood what promotions were.
Still don't know what they do.
I don't know what they do.
Management.
Programming.
Program director, news director, and then maybe the GMs up here.
And each of them fighting each other.
Each of them kind of thinking, like, who runs the show?
Sometimes you had a sales guy who the sales people say, I run it.
Other people say, no, no, we run it.
Now, jump to MSDNC.
You don't have those particular problems.
But everybody has the Rush Limbaugh.
Fox News has Hannity.
And MSDNC had Rachel.
Rachel was it.
Rachel was the top dog.
Worked one day a week.
One day a week?
Oh my God.
Came in, other people are busting their asses.
She works one day a week?
Jesus!
They must have hated that stuff.
And she comes across as real nice.
Don't kid yourself.
She stabbed that Keith Olbermann in the back.
Remember, the nobody is nice.
So when people are like this, like, hey, how are ya?
Those are the ones you gotta watch out for.
She comes across real nice.
I'm sure she is.
I think I met her a couple of times.
Do not trust her.
The nicest people in the world are those who are the most natural.
Okay?
So here she is.
Okay.
Joy Reid.
Nobody told Joy Reid, I'll bet you anything, in her defense.
Nobody ever said, listen, cut this racist shit out.
You understand that this isn't working.
You are not selling this.
You're mean and nasty and the numbers are hurting.
I don't know what to tell you.
Remember one thing.
Cable's different.
They have carrier fees and a lot of times you make your money before You even turn on the power for the first show.
But it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
Somebody should have told her, you don't understand something.
You've got to make it clear with people.
Because, I forgot to tell you, in the business, especially, especially of talk radio and the like, they get the biggest heads you have ever seen in your life.
They think they are...
Movers and shakers.
And the worst is when somebody, a county commissioner, a governor, a president, picks up the phone and calls them and they let you know.
I've got the president's ear.
I talked to the mayor.
You don't understand something.
This isn't just a show.
I am it.
When Rush Limbaugh was at his height, I used to see people, I think it was one time, was it Phil Graham, the senator, waiting to see him, sitting outside in a chair.
I didn't even have a waiting room.
I mean, this guy was big.
You don't think that does something to you?
No, Rush was the nicest guy.
Ever.
Do you know what that does to people?
You know what it is?
You telling somebody, listen, I don't think, hey, Hannity, watch what you say.
I don't like what you're saying.
Be careful.
Wait.
Remember, Hannity's smart.
He'll never say anything controversial.
Ever.
No hits, no runs, no errors.
Smartest guy of them all.
Doesn't go for the glory.
Doesn't have to.
Just very smart.
Anybody who follows Rush Limbaugh or Bill O 'Reilly is the luckiest guy.
He doesn't.
He doesn't.
And Rachel Maddow to an extent too.
Doesn't do it.
Joy Reid is another story.
Joy Reid's got problems.
Joy Reid doesn't understand the work.
Joy Reid doesn't understand you can't go out and call people racist.
You don't do this.
You can't do this.
It doesn't work.
Nobody is buying it.
This is about you.
You're letting your own thing out.
Your own message.
This is something about your background.
Who you are.
I don't know where this comes from.
But this is where you are.
And this is what your thing is about.
And you can't be like this.
You can't act like this.
You can't do this.
You don't understand this.
You can't say white people's tears.
Don't lay off this white stuff.
What is the matter with you?
These are liberals.
Do you think black people are watching you?
The liberals you're talking about are white people.
Look at the demographics.
Look at the people.
Look at the average.
Do you really think?
Do you think?
Who is?
Do you think white people say yeah?
Yeah, go, Joy.
Yeah, I'm lying to you, but you tell them, Joy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And the white tears and the racist and the Hitler.
Yeah, Joy.
Yeah.
Tell them about that Mussolini and Franco and how we're...
Yeah.
Plus it gets old.
And the worst is when it gets old.
When anything gets old.
The nice stuff, the good stuff.
I can sit there and say, President Trump is the greatest president of the world.
And you'll say, yeah!
Day two.
And President Trump is the nicest president of the world.
Yeah, and pretty soon you'll say, you don't want to offer this stuff.
This is just, this has nothing to do with who's right or who's wrong.
This is a woman whose head got so big and the people at MSDNC, somebody should have said, you don't understand something.
I don't know if she has an agent.
Normally they'll call your agent.
And the agent will reel you in.
I don't know, but she just went too far.
And then she did, when she really went crazy, when she really went nuts, is when she did these individual things where she was talking to herself, you know, on the phone, in the car.
That's when she lost her mind.
That's when she lost her mind.
I don't know where she came from.
So now she's saying, I'm doing the best I can.
No, stop it.
Then you cry like a little baby.
Like a little baby.
You're a grown woman.
You're real tough until they shit-can you after they told you because, and here's the thing.
You ready for this?
Let me explain this to you.
Let me explain this to you.
And we'll get to Rachel in a moment.
If you have the numbers, you can do whatever they want.
If you have the numbers.
If you have the numbers, they will bend over backwards.
Bend over backwards.
I saw it one time happen when they got rid of Bob Grant.
I was there for that one.
That was one where they just said, enough is enough is enough.
It just caught up and even though his numbers were good, they said, you know, there's problems with this one.
That's when you have ABC The TV and the sports and the record.
And then you have this little thing called the radio division.
And then you got this guy, what was his name?
Murphy or something.
And this guy gets a call.
Hello, yeah.
He says, do we have somebody named Bob Grant?
Who is this pissant?
I'm getting calls about Bob Grant.
He's with what?
With the radio?
AM?
Yeah.
Get rid of him!
It's not worth it.
No, you don't understand.
This is Bob Grant.
I don't give a damn.
I'm in charge of TV, and what are you talking about?
That's why, deep down inside, to the Burdocks, they don't give a damn about Fox TV, Fox News.
No, that's not where they make their money.
They don't care about this.
Not only that, the Burdock boys, they're lefties.
No, no, no.
But anyway, But they're doing great, and that's terrific, and they got the president, and it's good to have the president involved because the president can help you in other ventures as well.
And Trump's smart enough to understand that I can help you as a business person, too.
Okay, fine.
Jump to this.
So, eventually, they should can Joy Reid because she's got no numbers.
And she may have no numbers because she's a racist or whatever.
I don't know, but there's no reason to keep her around.
None!
No reason to keep her around.
You got it?
You got it?
Good.
Good, good, good, good, good.
All right.
Moving right along.
So she gets on the air and she starts crying like a little baby.
I'm so sorry.
Okay, fine.
Nobody cares about her.
Nobody wants to hear this stuff.
That's great.
So Rachel Maddow comes on and I just did, I just, please, you've got to see this.
I broke it down almost like the Zapruder film.
And I swear to God I've seen this a million times.
I have seen these people.
I've been in shows.
I've been in stations.
I've been in networks.
I've seen this a million times.
She came forward and she says, I'm going to do whatever I want because I'm Rachel Maddow.
And if you think, If you think that company, if you think that MSDNC needed her to say anything about this at all, you're out of your mind.
If you think somebody said, hey, that's great.
By the way, here is the link.
Watch this.
If you think they need to, hey, hey, Rachel, yeah, listen, when you go on tonight, yeah, trash us, will you?
Trash the management.
Trash me.
I've got this, what's her name?
Cutler or whatever this new person.
Yeah, mention me by name if you could.
Yeah, just trash me.
Yeah, thanks.
Appreciate it.
Trash me.
This is what they want to hear.
This is good for us.
We're dying over here.
I am dying.
The last thing I want to do is get rid of anyone because I'm not replacing them with anyone.
Let me explain to you.
Amputating.
There's no transplant.
We're not going to bring in some new blood.
No!
They're just getting rid of her and moving Jen Psaki.
When Jen Psaki is your shining star, you are so through.
They've got people, Jennifer Fang, I don't know, I don't watch them.
Let me say this again.
This is critical.
They're getting rid of Of Joey Reed.
They're not replacing her.
There's no bench.
They're just trying to stay afloat.
They're getting rid of this.
And they're saying, maybe, maybe, and they're also getting pressure, as you can imagine, from other people.
Maybe this will help.
Let's just get rid of her.
Even Al Sharpton is smart enough to realize, I'm not going to push it that much.
I mean, he's Al Sharpton to an extent.
So what does she do?
She comes in and starts crying like a little baby.
I'm just trying to help people.
Stop it.
You should have looked people in the eye and made it sound not like you're sorry for what you said.
Because that's what she said.
I was trying to be...
No.
You get up and you look people in the eye and you say, listen, you may not like what I'm saying.
You may not care for this.
But that's what I feel.
Because the truth hurts.
And I want to thank everybody who's working me, and I appreciate that.
But I am not going to back down.
And I'm going to double down.
And if you think I was Joy Reid before, you're really going to see.
And that's why she should go on TV, or whatever platform, and double down.
You think I was bad before?
Wait till you see me now.
And then people will say, you know what?
This bitch is crazy.
Quote, unquote.
I gotta watch her.
Have you seen her?
Have you seen Joy Reid?
Have you seen her now?
Oh, you gotta see her.
She's on whatever it is.
Oh, she's wild.
Oh, she's wild.
I gotta see her.
I hate her.
And people start watching.
She's the worst.
And people start watching.
And the numbers go right to the room.
But she's not smart enough to understand this.
It's professional wrestling.
Bringing heat.
You're the Iron Sheik.
Double down.
Come out during the height of the hostage crisis and spit on the American flag.
Make people come out of their skin they're so upset.
What are you doing?
Let people have it.
But she's not smart enough.
Okay, that's Joy Reid.
She doesn't get it.
She doesn't understand the business.
She doesn't understand how this thing works.
She's taking it seriously and she's a powder puff and a snowflake.
She doesn't have it.
She doesn't mean any of this stuff.
She's weak.
She's weak.
She's a little girl crying.
I'm so sorry.
Just as I thought.
She should have thought about this.
She should have said, if you think I was bad before, if that's bad, you ain't see nothing yet.
You can kiss my ass.
I mean, wow!
And believe it or not, that's what people respect.
We live in a world today where we're going like this.
We are so acclimated to everything.
You can't even imagine.
That's who we are.
One after another.
So consequently, you better be real good.
Real good.
Okay, so here comes Rachel Maddow.
Rachel Maddow is out of retreat.
Rachel Maddow comes out and says, she says, I'm 51 years old and I've been working since I was 12. Okay, so for 39 years she's been working.
And she's done every conceivable job there is.
Okay, fine, fine.
And Joy Reid is one of the greatest people I mean, she made Joy read out to me and say, are you...
First of all, do you know what you just did?
You've never come out as racist.
You've been a lib, and you've been anti-Trump, and you've pushed that Russian crap, which is fine.
But you've never come across as being racist.
You just said you agreed with her.
She's got the R, you know, that R, racist.
You just said this?
She has no idea what she said.
So what does Rachel do?
I worry about the people who worked here.
What?
I'm worrying about the people who for the longest time were the you know, line producers and the support staff.
Ricardo says Oh, the joy of selling potholders on QVC.
Well, you realize she's got nothing to worry about with the millions she's made, but you're right, you're right.
But thank you.
But what she said was, I'm worried about these people.
This is wrong.
Don't fire Joy Reid because this person, they should have a...
Who now has to sell her therapy ferret and has to have her dosage of CBD or CDB or whatever they call it, you know, gummies or...
I mean, I'm supposed to feel bad because NBC doesn't have the decency to give them a job someplace else?
What am I supposed to do?
What?
What would you like me to do?
I don't understand this.
See, Rachel should have come on and said, let me explain to you.
If she really wants to commit suicide, let me explain something to you.
When people are so high up the corporate food chain, they love cutting the balls off of people.
Interesting figurative phrase there.
They love it.
They love it.
I'm the one who fired Stern.
I'm the one who fired...
I've seen this.
They love it.
Wow, they're like the hatchet man.
And you tell her that if she cares so much about these people, why don't you take a million dollars of your 30 or 25 or whatever year, take a million dollars, put it in an interest-bearing account, and feed these people and take care of them for a year?
How about that?
How much are you giving them?
How much are you...
Al Sharpton?
Al Sharpton is a crook.
He's got more money banked.
I don't know where it came out.
He is a gangster.
Go down the list.
What are you doing?
What are you doing to help the people you care about?
This is the weirdest thing in the world.
So not only that.
So here's what they're doing.
Let me go back to what I'm saying.
Let's say I'm MSDNC.
Not only are you coming out and you're saying that we're a bunch of...
Pricks for firing this racist, vile termagant.
But now we're hard-hearted because we don't even have the common decency to take care of and pay for or help these people who have been with the company for so long.
You're double-screwing us.
You're telling the whole world we're cheap.
What are you doing?
what did that accomplish?
Tell me one person, one person who ran to To MSDNC and said, you know what?
I'm going to watch them now.
Damn it, I had no idea.
Did you hear what she said?
I'm going to watch it.
Put them on.
Why?
Because the line producer that they fired, and they're not getting paid, it was the weirdest thing I've ever seen in my life.
Now, does anybody care about...
When you were shut down, when people were demonetized, lost their platform, shut down, did anybody mind when people were thrown off?
Because Twitter, and a lot of this, this is their MSDNC.
Remember when Dorsey and these people worked as proxies for the shadow government and the deep state through Biden, and when they, in essence, this is actually true, When they were allowed to and were permitted to shut people down, shut people out, when people couldn't even say anything about vaccines or whatever, they were shut down.
Did Rachel ever go on TV and say, what about this person?
What about somebody who's doing a very nice YouTube channel?
And get some money from whatever it is.
And they were shut down because of something that somebody said or by Twitter or whatever.
No!
No!
Nobody cared about you.
Nobody cared about you.
You were a conspiracy theorist.
F you!
But I'm supposed to do...
What exactly?
What's my call to action?
Remember something.
When you meet with somebody, you go to management and you're going to sit down, what is your call to action?
Meaning, what do you want?
Tell me what you want.
I want you to double my salary.
I want you to give me a 10% raise.
I want you to do this.
I want you to do that.
I want you to do that.
I remember lawyers have the hardest time quoting a fee.
It's the damnedest thing.
And they say, well, you know.
First question.
You're probably wondering what this is going to cost.
Good.
Here's what it costs.
This much.
$20,000.
Whatever it is.
What?
Well, I went to this other guy and he was going to charge me $5,000.
Nobody is better able to assess the value of his worth than he is.
So please, he's a fine man or woman.
Go to them.
Have a nice day.
Tell people what you want.
What do you want?
Raul says MAGA is a long-awaited massive, inexorable force.
It is true.
And Doge as well, by the way.
And thank you.
Do you hear where we are with this?
This is so beautiful.
But the biggest picture, the biggest picture, not about MSDNC, not Joey Reed, not Rachel Maddow, no, no, no, no.
The message is over.
The message is over.
The message.
The leftist message is through.
It's not working.
Nobody's buying it.
Nobody's...
I don't know what the word is.
It doesn't work.
The reason why, the reason why, let me ask you something.
Do any of you believe that Fox News has the smartest people you've ever heard?
No.
I think maybe, I think Tucker probably was, I mean, really, really smart.
Didn't matter.
Do you think that Fox News had the most handsome or beautiful people?
No.
Did they have the best writers?
Did they have the best production?
No.
What was it?
What was the thing about Fox News that was most important?
Roger Ailes is genius.
What was it?
It was the message.
And you always knew you'd get the message.
It's like McDonald's.
Go in, you know what you're going to get.
There's no ifs, no ands, no buts.
You're going to get this.
Here was a line.
And you stuck with it.
And you never backed down.
To Hannity's credit, he never veered.
Never.
Never, ever played around with, well, no, he said exactly what he wanted to say, what he wanted you to know.
It was he, how do I say that?
But the message resonated.
If I have the best atheism, It's not going to work because, I'm sorry, there has to be a certain degree of ideological base and if a lot of people are atheists, if it's a very popular idea, you might do well.
So it's a combination.
Yes, Fox News was a good product, but it's the message and most people got that.
Most people who buy this product, who tune in or whatever, most of these people, For whatever it's worth, most of them are conservative.
That's the way it is.
Now, I don't know why that is.
I don't know how to explain this.
I don't know what the...
I don't know.
I don't know what it is.
I can't explain it.
I can't.
Has there ever been a real, real, real...
How do I say this?
A real, real...
Effective and popular liberal.
I don't know.
CNN, by the way, at least, at least will bring in that Scott Jennings and he'll mix it up.
Maybe.
Maybe there's a CNN factor where somebody has some kind of, I don't know what it is, but what I'm telling you, the bottom line, the overarching method or message is that nobody It's very interesting.
Do they know how to fix it?
Can you fix it?
What is it that you're trying to fix?
I would say blow it up.
Now that is an expression that is an industry phrase.
Start all over.
Shift it off into something like MSDNCX or give it a name, give it a platform or some digital, the way they were going to work with CNN.
Remember when Tater, remember when he was going to be there?
Brian Stelter or whatever they were.
Don't lose complete faith, but start over again.
Start over again.
Ask yourself this question.
What do you want to do?
Let me ask you.
Do you want to make money?
Or do you want to provide an ideological...
What do you want to do?
Now here's the million dollar question nobody's asking.
You understand this?
Let me explain to you.
Without USAID, it's over.
I am hearing from people in law firms, In immigration law firms that are just shutting down.
They were funded by.
This was a subterranean, like an arterial system.
It's like having another heart that pumped additional blood.
This is over with.
Do you hear what I'm saying?
It's over with.
So we don't know anymore.
I guarantee you one thing.
Fox News didn't get any AID-esque money.
So this is the biggest thing anybody's ever seen.
They don't know what to do.
It's not just Joy Reid.
It's not just Rachel Maddow.
It's the message.
And we're finding out that the funding, the funding is gone.
And there's nothing there.
And the other days, you never heard about their numbers having significantly dropped.
Their numbers have significantly dropped because now it matters.
They didn't matter before.
There was something I was reading today about, was it Wisconsin or Maine, where this person's husband received money from something called the Society for This and the Corporation for This.
And all of these monies just made their way millions of dollars to people you've never heard of.
Never.
Never.
It's the most incredible thing in the world.
We're finding out right now.
You are watching the biggest, most explosive revolution.
In recent American history, you are seeing something that I can't even put into words.
This is bigger than anything anybody's ever seen.
Ever.
I don't think anybody even grasps it because maybe you're just not used to it.
Maybe you're just kind of acclimated because, well, you know, Trump is here.
No.
No.
What you have seen, what you're able Just sit back.
Now, if they don't come through with something, then we've got problems.
You are going to see something very, very, very, very, very seriously happening, what Trump is going to do regarding Epstein.
And Epstein is going to make a lot of people very embarrassed, people who are theoretically...
Friends of ours, if you know what I mean.
You know what I mean, right?
You got what I'm saying?
I mentioned this last night.
Our good friend Tucker is like saying, I don't understand why this Barry Weiss seems to only be talking to people who are advocating bombing Iran.
Who's advocating the bombing of Iran?
I don't know, but Tucker.
Who once Iran bombed?
Say it!
I don't know!
Okay.
Then Don Bongino was on that Tim Pool show saying, you know, I got these people who said to me that this Epstein guy may not have actually been in this for himself, by himself, but it might have been, I don't know, some Middle Eastern guy.
He said this.
I'm thinking, Don, are you kidding me?
Say it!
Okay.
So, we're still, maybe people are trying to figure out what's going on.
I don't know.
I don't care.
I'm so happy.
The bottom line is simply this.
MSDNC is over for a couple of reasons.
Number one, because of the funding source, but also This ideology is over.
The left is dead.
The Democratic Party is dead.
What are they talking about?
What are they talking about?
You have never seen, you should be elated right now.
I never thought we'd be winning this much, this fast, this forcefully.
It is brutal, brutal what you are going to see.
What's happening right now?
I was listening yesterday to it was one of the most interesting things.
Scott Ritter, who was a genius, was talking to Judge Napolitano.
Love those guys.
Love them.
And Judge Napolitano said what is this crazy stuff about Trump selling all these And apparently, or seeming to be a part of this, what's the word?
Seeming to be a part of this kind of Israeli, you know, Bibi Netanyahu.
Scott Ritter said, no.
No, that's what he's saying to the rest of the world.
What Trump has said was, Trump said to Bibi, I control Gaza.
No.
Not you.
What does that mean?
Watch what happens.
Meaning, what Trump says in public is not necessarily what Trump is doing.
Did you see him manhandle Macron?
Do you see this?
Do you see what's happening?
Do you see how Europe is just collapsing?
I don't...
Remember a time in my life when I've seen anything change this much, this fast, at so many levels.
These are the most exciting times of my life.
I'm doing a piece coming up on questions I have, and I want to get to the bottom.
We talked about 9-11.
I want to talk about the paddock.
I want to talk about the Mandalay Bay.
I want to talk about that, about Las Vegas.
And I've got a lot of questions I'm putting together.
Just questions.
Because I like my...
I think the questions are more interesting than anything else.
We're talking about vaccines.
We're talking about China.
We're talking about Wuhan.
We're talking about Fauci.
We're talking about things which we wanted to talk about for lo these many years.
And now is the time for us to do that.
Do you understand what I'm saying, my friend?
Do you understand?
I think you do.
I think you do.
I know I do.
I've never seen anything as wonderful as it is right now.
I've never seen anything.
Stop for one second.
I want you to understand something.
Do you feel happy?
Do you really see what's happening?
Are you?
Because if you look just in terms of what's happening internationally, you're...
Oh my God.
He's meeting with nuclear powers Putin and he's saying, we're going to get to the bottom of this.
Xi Jinping is next.
This is like nothing we've ever seen before.
This is like nothing we've ever seen.
Pilgrim said, we had arroz con pollo at La Terracita.
Oh, yes.
One of the West Tampa's favorites.
Oh, yes.
That wonderful bar.
We used to have that cafe con leche in the morning.
My friends, be...
How do I say this?
I know I sound like a broken record because I'm having the hardest time putting it all into this one particular cogent sentence.
I've never been this excited about what's happening politically in this country.
Never.
Never.
I've never seen so much.
You are going to see levels of change Coming from directions, I do not expect to hear everything announced.
I am so...
You know who I'm so impressed with that I never thought I'd be?
Pete Hegseth.
His stature, his demeanor, his aptitude for the job is incredible.
Pam Bondi, Tulsi Gabbard, they're just going crazy.
Elon Musk.
Elon Musk, I understand something.
You've got this, Whitney Webb doesn't like him, and Fitz doesn't like him, and all these other people.
Everybody has to do that.
I love this guy.
He's changing everything.
Everything.
There are some people who just never seem to be happy.
MSDNC and Maddo are next, and then it's CNN.
This is the MAGA juggernaut continues.
Raul says, by the way, Hyman Roth, the godfather, would have said USAID was bigger than U.S. Steel.
Indeed, U.S. Steel might have been also part of that.
I think you're getting this.
You're seeing this.
We also need to see three cycles of Democrats crushed.
Midterms, the new elections, and then midterms again.
That's it.
So feel good, my friends.
Feel wonderful.
Feel happy.
Feel thrilled.
Raul and Pilgrim and Spandex and Ricardo and Underlining Inc.
and Kelly McKinnon, understand what's happening.
This is bigger.
This is so huge.
I can't wait to see.
I can't keep track of everything.
I don't want to pick out every little interstitial moment.
But the biggest story, when you have the end, let me ask you a question.
This is a terrible question to ask.
Let me ask you a question.
What if tomorrow there was no more rap music?
None.
You just didn't hear anymore.
Would this country become better?
Or worse?
Let me ask you the question again.
If tomorrow, hypothetically, there were no more rap music, just gone, would things in the country get better or worse?
What do you think?
What do you think?
And that's a tough one.
That's a tough one.
If all of a sudden there was no more music, no more, none of it.
Think about that.
Well, while you ask it, if there was no more MSDNC, would the country be better or worse?
I think the country would be better.
And the reason why is because that would mean that that particular ideology, which I consider to be vile and just distasteful and wrong and, if you will, racist.
That means it didn't have an audience anymore.
The world would be better.
So remember, when you see something go away, when you see a platform for the dissemination of a particular idea, when you see it go bye-bye, the world betters immediately, tremendously.
Does that make any sense to you?
That make any sense?
I hope you understand how happy I am.
I hope you understand.
My friends, I want to thank you.
I want to thank you.
Make sure you are subscribed to the...
Have a brand new newsletter went out this morning.
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Make sure you are subscribed and that you like this.
And tonight, later on, I'm going to be on the Sean Atwood show.
Later on, I'm going to be doing a live show with my good friend Charles Ortel.
Charles and I used to speak during the Hillary years.
And I've not spoken to him.
He is a veritable font of information.
That's tonight I'm going to be recording.
I've got so much great stuff for you.
So please stay tuned.
Thank you for listening to me.
Thank you for being a part of this.
And thank you for sharing this.
Make sure you tell your friends.
Let's spread the word.
Johannesburg.
All right, dear friends.
Have a great and glorious day.
See you later.
Don't forget the monkey's dead.
The show's over.
Suya.
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