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Joy Reid Gets the Boot: America Rejoices as MSDNC Caves to MAGA and America First

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	Welcome to NinosCorner.tv.
	I'm joined with Boone Putler, man.
	It's been a little bit, Boone.
	Welcome back to the show.
	Brother, it's always a pleasure, man.
	I like coming on your show because, man, we just take it in so many different ways, and you're not a one-trick pony, man.
	You get the information out there.
	You're a great listener.
	You do great interviews, and I'm just always happy to be here, man.
	Thanks for having me, brother.
	I've learned to listen more by having Juan Oaks statement on my shows because he goes so long.
	There's no choice.
	No choice, but I have to sit back and listen.
	I've got to tell you, yeah, I've been...
	I've been trying to improve my game, step up my game on the podcast and try to be a better listener.
	I try to be a sponge and take in all the information that I can so that way I can formulate or better formulate my perspective on what's going on with this deep state war and everything that's happening behind the scenes.
	The great thing about you, Boone, is that you're one degree of separation.
	You're right next to General Flynn.
	You know him well.
	You know a lot of these guys well.
	You have a lot of experience in psychological warfare, correct?
	Right.
	So, you're the man to talk to.
	And everything that's happening right now within the U.S., the firings, the USAID, the LGOs are now done, DEI is done.
	I mean, this is a huge turning point for America, correct?
	I mean, right now, it's like we've got the reins back.
	Trump was just saying in a speech conference, he's not giving Maine any more funding due to the fact that they're still letting men play in women's sports.
	Well, what you're seeing is, and if I could just kind of orient your audience to the situation, because a lot of people are not, you know, Trump says certain things and he does certain things and he might always not give the complete explanation because it's over people, it's beyond, you know, the cognitive realm of people being able to understand.
	But if I'm looking at this situation and I'm doing the assessment, you know, we wrote all these books and we were talking about, General Flynn and I wrote these books, You know, a lot of the stuff that we're talking about in there, these warnings and about Marxism and Marxist structures and how they get into the government and into U.S. institutions, well, that's what Trump is breaking down right now.
	When he's breaking down DEI, he's really breaking down a structure.
	When he's breaking down this bureaucracy, This bureaucratic structure is actually something that CCP puts in other countries to bog it down, because then they have more places they can put people.
	To weaken it.
	To weaken it.
	And then allow the open borders.
	This is how you take down a country.
	This is how you take down a country without firing a shot.
	This is their unrestricted warfare, their irregular warfare strategies.
	And so when you're seeing Trump take down this bureaucracy...
	He's removing the structure that is put in place to take down the United States.
	And I know there's going to be people out there and say, yeah, but my cousin so-and-so lost a job.
	I feel very bad for you.
	I'm very, very sorry.
	Nobody likes to lose a job.
	That's horrible.
	But what we're talking about here is the structures, and that's where he's taking the hit.
	So he's taking down the DEI.
	That is a structure that was put in place specifically for cultural individualism to create class warfare.
	He's taking that down.
	So he's taking down...
	When we say he's saving the country, he's reversing all these programs and these structures that were put in place in order to take the country down.
	So that's not the easiest thing in the world to do.
	And he's modernizing.
	So what we're seeing in the United States, and by and large we're seeing in many countries around the world, this populist movement...
	Trump has an element to break down globalism.
	And who's pushing the globalism?
	It's the CCP.
	And other special interest groups like Soros and others like that.
	They're all part of the same game.
	They're all part of the same game.
	And so when he's tearing down these structures, he's removing these centers of gravity and these assets that are used to deflate the...
	The prospectability, the profitability, the freedom-loving people of a country, that's what this is all about.
	And we have major problems in the United States.
	The CCP has taken over so much land, so many rare earth metals, so many areas that actually...
	End up being the sources for things like energy, for things like tech, for things like weapons systems.
	And so what Trump is doing, that's the whole point for making sure that Canada is bolstering their defensive posture.
	That's why we're down in Panama getting control of that canal again.
	A lot of that has to do with a major...
	So in a sense, China's running away with the ball right now.
	We're behind in the game.
	We are way behind in the game.
	Yeah, because they're in Africa.
	They're in South America.
	They're everywhere.
	They're all over the planet.
	Their hands are in the cookie jar in every country.
	And we're behind.
	And they're strategically weakening us.
	They're strategically weakening us.
	They're controlling those rare earth metals, which are the source for all these other things that create the strength and viability of a country.
	So they're tearing that down economically.
	They're controlling so many things around the world economically.
	This is all part of their unrestricted warfare strategy.
	And we've seen it play out.
	And over the last four years, this coming across the border and infiltration, this is all part of their game.
	They've increased the level of bureaucracy in our country.
	They've declined our economy.
	And this is how you make a country collapse.
	So what Trump is doing is he is unwinding all that.
	You're seeing a renaissance period in the United States.
	You're seeing the modernization of our government based upon our current threats that have been ignored.
	And that's the big picture.
	That's really the big picture.
	And people can break it down into their political BS like they always do, because I think that's what's tangible to people.
	But what we're really talking about is modernizing and a renaissance.
	So when people look back, this is very important, when your kids look and he says, Dad, what was going on in that period?
	You get to say that you lived through the renaissance of America, which brought America back to standing in the world.
	That's what's really happening.
	We're living through this, and it is not going to be easy.
	It will be painful, but if we don't do it, we die.
	It's that simple.
	Well, folks, as we go further, I want to talk to you more about, you know, I think we're on a trajectory kinetic war with China.
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	All right, Boone, so I'm going to play this video real quick.
	And this is just epic.
	I mean, when I watch this...
	No, I saw this.
	This was taking it straight to him.
	Yeah, let's just watch it.
	The NCAA has complied immediately, by the way.
	That's good.
	But I understand Maine.
	Is Maine here?
	The governor of Maine?
	Yeah, I'm here.
	Are you not going...
	Can you hear it, Boone?
	Yeah, I hear it good.
	Okay, I can't hear it on my end.
	Do you want to comply with it?
	I'm complying with state and federal laws.
	Well, we are the federal law.
	Well, you better do it.
	You better do it because you're not going to get any federal funding at all if you don't.
	And by the way, your population even...
	Sorry to interrupt.
	You can hear it, right, Boone?
	Because I cannot.
	Okay.
	No, it's somewhat liberal, although I did very well there.
	Your population doesn't want men playing in women's sports.
	So you better comply because otherwise you're not getting any federal funding.
	See you in court.
	Every state...
	Good, I'll see you in court.
	I look forward to that.
	That should be a really easy one.
	And enjoy your life after...
	Governor, because I don't think you'll be in elected politics.
	No.
	I mean...
	When he says that, enjoy your life as governor, because I don't think you're going to get re-elected, he's got a plan for that.
	He's got a plan for that.
	And he's also signaling to people to say, hey, start spinning up some people that are going to run for governor in Maine, because I'm going to be looking for people to endorse.
	And I guarantee you, after that interaction there...
	Those are exactly the conversations that were happening in Maine.
	Like, okay, here's our time.
	I think now with Caps Patel being, and I'm going to say certified activated, okay, I think this is all going to happen really fast, Boone.
	I think he's wasting no time.
	I think we're going to see a lot of investigations come to light and then arrests.
	I think we're going to be very surprised.
	You know, when I went to Vegas and I met with Cash Patel in Vegas and saw his government gangsters, he already had it all mapped out.
	He knows who's who.
	He knows what's exactly what's going on.
	He knows where the bodies are, just as General Flynn does.
	So I think he's ready to go forward and move quick.
	And I think this is going to make everyone's head spin.
	What's your thoughts on that?
	Because what I saw with government gangsters, and I just had Dan Fluet on, who is a producer of it, showed me this guy knows where it's all at.
	He's got it all together.
	All the strings tied to each person.
	All the web of intricacies mapped out.
	He knows who's who.
	Look no further than Government Gangsters the movie.
	He's ready to go, man.
	He's going to hit the ground running.
	What's your thoughts?
	My thoughts are, you know, I don't know if it's going to happen ultra fast.
	You know, he's got to be very, very thorough because there's going to be a lot of pushback on it.
	So I think he's got that in his mind.
	I also think that, you know, he's going to have to make sure he knows who's who in the zoo that he's working around.
	And he's going to have to, and they've got to be very thorough.
	It's got to be very, very thorough because if it's not, it'll be such an exploitable thing by the opposition that it would be counterproductive.
	And he knows that.
	He's a smart guy.
	So I would tell everybody, just kind of hold on to your saddle and just watch what's happening.
	Pay attention.
	Don't be too critical.
	Don't set expectations that you're going to be let down by.
	Just realize the man is there.
	He's going to do his job.
	He does have a focus on a certain element of corruption.
	That's not going to go away.
	He is more than willing to be articulate and explain why this has to be exposed, but he's going to do everything right.
	And this is where we are really putting a lot of trust in him to do those things right.
	So if we're going to put that trust into him, we've got to be able to be patient.
	We've got to let him do what he needs to do.
	And push that ball forward.
	He's got a lot of support from the administration, obviously.
	He's got a lot of support from the different agencies that will be involved in these investigations.
	That's very important.
	So the shaping has been going on, you know, getting Tulsi in place, getting Pete in place, getting Cash in place.
	You know, these are all very important factors to shape that environment, to prepare for what is going to happen.
	You know, Pam Bondi turning over the Epstein client list, that's going to be huge.
	That's not out yet, right?
	That's coming soon.
	I haven't seen it yet.
	I would imagine it's going to be on the White House website or something.
	I would imagine it would be there.
	It would have to be somewhere.
	It's going to shut a lot of people up.
	It's going to be used in some degrees as a distraction point to get everybody really over here.
	This shock and awe strategy that Trump has employed is...
	Beyond anything, I think most people were ever able to conceptualize.
	I mean, it's something that has been in the works for a long time.
	I've said this on other shows, and I'll say it again.
	Do we really think we would be this far with our commitment level had we not seen the utter screw-ups of Biden?
	No, that galvanized the country.
	They galvanized the country.
	The coming across the border galvanized the country.
	Men and women's sports galvanized the country.
	You know, all these things had to take place for the preparation of what is coming and how it's going to come.
	You have to get the public support behind that stuff.
	So that has happened.
	You've seen people cross these lines.
	I mean, come on, you're seeing Kennedy work with Trump.
	You know, we're in a renaissance here.
	This is all different.
	It's all different.
	And the way that it's going to happen is not something people have seen.
	Therefore, it's really hard to draw speculation from history.
	But this is a new thing.
	This is a renaissance period in the United States.
	We're modernizing the government.
	We're focusing on our real threats, our most imminent threats, which is the CCP.
	And everything else is going to circle around that.
	We're dealing with our domestic threats.
	We're dealing with our internal and our external international threats.
	And that is where the game is going to be played.
	And as part of that game, Trump has to defund all these operations that have supported the structures that are leading to the demise of our country.
	So you're seeing the defunding of all these platforms and structures and all this.
	The way money has filtered into areas that were actually working against us.
	These are taxpayer dollars.
	Taxpayer dollars are no longer being funded for our demise.
	I see this as phases.
	I've always said, you know, I've fought my entire life.
	I look at things as strategy.
	And I think that Trump absolutely was an operation.
	And I think that's going to come to light a lot more as this goes.
	And I think that this is phases of an operation.
	It's a sting operation.
	The last four years with Biden, during that hostile takeover, was allowed to happen.
	And I think that the way it happened was to red pill society in America.
	And now what we're watching now is the completion of certain phases and on to new phases.
	So what I see happening now, like when Trump says the cartels are now a terrorist organization.
	So when you see something like that and how that's going to link to China, how that's going to link to...
	Politicians, celebrities.
	That's going to be the big net that takes everyone down and we're able to arrest them and get...
	Proper justice.
	I think the whole USAID, the mishandling of taxpayer dollars is what's really making America angry right now.
	We're saying, hey man, this is not right.
	They did what with my money?
	They did what they do?
	Surgeries for what?
	All this is going on right now.
	People are seeing this and getting angry because it's a court of public opinion.
	And then when this phase ends with DOGE and we go on to the next phase of investigations, oh, oh, wait, yeah, you're angry, you're angry, but hold on, there's more.
	Now we're going to see who did what and what they did with their money, and then when they get arrested and taken off.
	I think that's what's coming.
	I really do.
	I think the endgame here is going to be, this is how he drains the swamp and gets rid of all the deep state actors.
	But I still see we are in a trajectory to a kinetic kind of conflict with China, a certain kind of Cuban-missile-style crisis.
	I see something like that transpiring very quickly, especially now with Zelensky.
	I mean, there's so much going on.
	There's multiple chess games being played here.
	Do you agree?
	Well, I mean, look what would have to happen if we did.
	How do you deter a kinetic war with China?
	You deter that by being able to control the elements that they would use for weaponry and tech.
	And that's what you're seeing.
	That's Greenland.
	That's south of the border.
	That's everywhere right now.
	A lot of people don't know that the South China Sea itself, the most unearthed gold and precious metals, rare earth metals, are in the South China Sea.
	So that's what that whole thing is.
	That's a very strategic move.
	So you want to move all these strategic plays to your favor, not so much because you want to have a kinetic war, but because you want to remove the will of your adversary to want to go to the kinetic field.
	Right.
	So all these moves are being made right now, and they have to be made at the same time.
	They have to be made.
	You have to tear down the structure that's used for the irregular warfare within your country at the same time.
	You use your military, your diplomatic power to be able to get control of the factors that control wars and technology, because that's a domain of war, or not a domain, but that's an element within domains of war, is the technology.
	So you want to get control of those things too.
	All these little centers of gravity are now being influenced, so we have control over them to deny access to our adversaries.
	We're denying them access at the same time we're scooping them up for ourselves so they don't want to fight us.
	And that's the big deal.
	When people are saying, oh, Trump is a warmonger, this and the other thing, no.
	His whole thing is, in the past, we've used agencies to control governments, to control opposition groups.
	We'll fund both sides of an opposition just because whoever gets in power wants to have some sort of control over them.
	And I think Trump's game right now is saying, I don't want to control governments.
	I want to control the resources that give governments the ability to go to war so they won't go to war.
	I think that's where the big game is.
	I agree with you completely on that.
	And I think also, you know, with the, let's go back to the LA fires.
	You know, there's a lot of, you know, conspiracies of what happened with LA fires, but a lot of people are saying, hey man, lithium.
	I mean, there's lithium mines.
	There's a lot of lithium in that area.
	Do you think that, I think that was the last kind of like land grab for China?
	What's your thoughts on that?
	Because a lot of people are coming out now saying like, there's a lot of lithium mines there.
	Or do you think that was...
	I don't know, but as the nature of covert action and covert influence, you know, we wouldn't know, you know, what's behind the thing that's behind the thing.
	Is it a possibility?
	I don't know.
	I haven't looked at it from that angle.
	Do I think those things happen?
	But then the question is, okay, if that's China trying to get access to lithium, well, how are they going to get it out of the country?
	They can't now.
	They can't now because also the executive orders that Trump put into place, what, in 2018 that are probably going to come, that are coming into fruition now, correct?
	Business dealing with China, frozen accounts.
	Well, look at this.
	I mean, this is something that people don't talk about as far as a critical factor.
	Where does China get their food?
	They have a lot of people to feed.
	They've got a water shortage.
	Where do they get their food?
	Well, they get their pork from the United States.
	They get their grains from the United States.
	They get so much stuff from the United States.
	Where do they get their beef from?
	Brazil.
	Who gets it from where?
	The United States.
	So we have so many assets in place right now that we can influence and put pressure on China.
	That people just don't know about, they're not aware about.
	People say, oh, China's buying up the farmland.
	So what?
	Literally, with a strike of a pen, that ends.
	You know what I mean?
	And they have to do that because they have to find places to grow food to feed their people.
	That is a very, very critical factor in our ability to influence mainland China.
	It's very, very important.
	So, these are the things that, you know, when we talk about irregular warfare, these are all the things that go into that mix.
	And it is political, it is economic, it is social, it is psyop, it is AI using AI-driven psychological programming.
	You know, it's all of it.
	You know, it's being able to elevate certain influencers to put out a message for that covert influence, and you're seeing those structures being denied.
	Denied to the CCP.
	The ability to influence, the ability to control, all this stuff.
	It's all being denied.
	And ultimately, target number one is the CCP.
	So do you see them making a move on Taiwan?
	I mean, it's obvious that Trump has already come out and said, hey, we want Canada to be the 51st state.
	We want Greenland, Gulf of America.
	I mean, that's obviously very psychological.
	That's psychological warfare on China, right?
	They're like, hey, he's calling the Gulf of Mexico Gulf of America.
	He wants Canada.
	He's making a move on Greenland.
	Shit, maybe we should make our move on Taiwan.
	What do you think is going to happen there?
	It seems like there's a very fine, tight rope we're walking here.
	We're about to, and we just have sold a tremendous amount of armaments to India and Taiwan.
	That's a big deal.
	Now, let's talk about a little bit of history that Americans don't know.
	Prior to the CCP, okay, prior to the communists taking over China, people don't know that the CCP is an illegitimate government.
	The real government for China, the Kuomintang, left China and went to Taiwan.
	Why did they do that?
	They did that because when Japan was attacking China before World War II, before we got involved in World War II, the communists would not help their own country, which was a democratic country at the time.
	They would not help their own country fight the Japanese.
	Instead, they used the conditions to control the rules, to control the farmers, to take over a communist structure.
	When that was happening, the legitimate government for China went to Taiwan.
	So it's not that Taiwan broke away from China.
	It's the legitimate government is in Taiwan, not in China.
	So when we're saying we're protecting Taiwan, what we're really doing is protecting the legitimate government of China, and that is for a reason.
	So people need to understand what is the nature of this thing?
	What's the relationship between China and Taiwan?
	It takes a little bit of a history lesson, and this is the history lesson.
	This helps people get oriented to the factors of why we would support Taiwan.
	Why is Taiwan so important?
	Yes, it's a tech base.
	Yes, it has a lot of positive things that the United States draws from, but it is also the adversary of our adversary.
	So we're going to support them.
	I don't think China would be wise to make a move on Taiwan, and we are taking the opportunity to rebuild and to supply them with armaments.
	To make sure that doesn't happen.
	Again, this is what we do to deter war, not to create war.
	And China, the last thing they want to do is get in a kinetic war with the United States.
	Their deepwater navy is weak.
	They don't have a lot of range.
	We have more control over the globe.
	These are factors.
	The tech advantage they're using with drones and undersea drones and all this stuff is a factor that needs to be, that I'm sure is being worked.
	But all these things are happening.
	You know, India is part of BRICS, and they're trying to maintain relationships with everybody so they can remain independent.
	But believe me, they're going to be buying our weapon systems.
	They're going to be buying F-35s.
	They're going to be buying F-21s.
	That's a factor.
	Because that's on their border.
	That's a big deal.
	What's happening with Taiwan?
	That's going to be a big deal.
	But all these things are being built, again, to deny access of the CCP to these critical areas, these critical infrastructures, and these critical rare earth minerals.
	I think – Let's just maneuver for a second.
	I think what's happening with Claudia Scheinbaum right now is she's being pulled in many different directions.
	I think that the CCP, obviously, I had a big foreman, Mike, who works with Steve Bannon on We Build the Wall.
	We've talked about this.
	He's got his ears to the ground when it comes to what's happening with China and South America.
	China is there.
	They're doing a lot of stuff.
	Even rumors have it.
	They're setting up bases and things like that in South America.
	Mexico, Claudia Sheinbaum, is a plant.
	We all know that.
	But the fact that she's playing ball, perceivably, with Trump right now, but yet is changing the Mexican Constitution to benefit the cartels, tells me a lot.
	There's a tug of war for Claudia Scheinbaum.
	I'll be surprised if she makes it through the end of the year, to be quite honest with you.
	I don't think this lady can sleep at night, but I still see cartel warfare.
	I think it's going to happen.
	I believe that this is going to, there's just going to be a breaking point and it's going to happen.
	I don't believe they're going to go peacefully into the night and just say, all right, we're done.
	All our veins, all our arteries have been cut off.
	There's no way to do this anymore.
	There's no way to conduct business, especially when China has such a stronghold on them.
	What do you see happening with Mexico?
	What do you see?
	How do you think this, how do you see all this play out with Claudia Sheinbaum, Mexico?
	I see their military.
	I'm right here on the border.
	I see their military here.
	They're pairing off with ours.
	I mean, it's almost like strategic chess pieces are being put on the board.
	It's something I've never seen before here on the border.
	What's your thoughts on this?
	My thoughts are, I mean, if I had a magic pen and somebody was listening to me, I would have some sort of demilitarized zone between the United States and Mexico, and I think I would monitor it with the Air Force, and I would hit strategic targets inside of Mexico, specifically the cartels, and I'd be using things like...
	You know, 20 minutes on station with an AC-130 gunship has a huge psychological effect for the cartel's ability to respond and recruit.
	Like, you can't mess with that.
	And they have no way to even defend against that.
	It's just not going to happen.
	You know, we've got drones, we've got ISR, you know, all over Mexico now.
	This is happening.
	We're watching the Gulf.
	That's a reason.
	The Pacific, you know, there was a bill put up before the Senate a couple weeks ago or a week ago talking about being able to recruit or basically, in a way, deputize private citizens to patrol our oceans, you know, our seafaring areas.
	And this is a very important thing to understand too because we're building that That structure to defend.
	Trump has talked about an iron dome over the United States.
	That structure to defend.
	Trump is putting this pressure on Canada saying, hey, you should just be the 51st state.
	Okay, what's the counter move to that?
	Or you could do something with your military that you haven't really been doing and start protecting yourselves.
	Therefore, we are also protected, storing up our defenses.
	These are all the political moves, the geopolitical moves that are happening right now.
	The cartels.
	They could easily be used as that terrorist organization conducting attacks in the United States, you know, with cars, with explosives, bombs, all that stuff.
	They don't care about civilian casualties.
	They don't care about civilian casualties, collateral damage.
	No, they don't.
	And I would think their tactic would be to make it as bad as they can for Trump.
	So let me tell you what happens.
	That first move, that first terrorist attack that happens in the United States is linked to a cartel.
	We're going to unleash absolute holy hell on those motherfuckers south of the border.
	And that's going to be a thing.
	Their worst move right now would be to be that cutout for the CCP and actually do an attack inside the United States.
	China does not have the standing in Mexico that people might think.
	I mean, yes, politically and influence, yes.
	But as far as militarily?
	There's only so far they can go.
	We still control this battle space.
	And that's going to continue to happen.
	And if we've got to throw more lethality at this battle space, I think it will absolutely happen with Trump.
	And I don't think we're going to take any nonsense from those folks.
	So Mexican President Gladys Scheinbaum is moving quickly to change the Mexican Constitution to protect the cartels from U.S. attacks.
	Is she working for the cartels?
	Well, duh.
	But you've got to think here also.
	We are there right now.
	I've heard our special forces are down there right now.
	Training them on how to take out the cartels.
	Have you heard about this?
	Yes.
	Yeah, so we're basically training the cartels.
	So people need to understand, it's the cartels.
	No, we're not training the cartels.
	I mean, it's interagency cooperation, right, between governments.
	We're not training the cartels.
	What we're trying to do is put our footprint there.
	Get a footprint on the ground.
	For one, what do you have the ability to do when you're down there training?
	Well, you have the ability to assess.
	We're training them to take themselves out.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	I got what you're saying.
	They're like, oh, you're training me to just take out my people.
	I'm just saying, I've never seen anything like this, Boone, in my life.
	I'm in utter awe.
	In our lifetime...
	What's happening right now, that's why I'm calling it the Renaissance.
	And what is the Renaissance?
	It's the bridge between what was and what it is, modernization.
	We're going through that Renaissance, into that modernization, and we're...
	We're picking apart all those critical factors of our adversaries so they cannot attack us, so they cannot hurt us, so we can remain a sovereign country that is prosperous for our people.
	This is what's happening.
	And again, it's going to be painful.
	It's not going to be easy.
	But there is enough national will to do it.
	And I don't think we've seen that in our lifetime at all.
	And with the more that is exposed...
	Yeah, go ahead.
	To your point, when you said the first time they do something here on American soil, that's the end for them.
	And you're right, because I think actually that's what Trump's waiting on.
	So we'll have permission to go in there and just clean house.
	But do you remember, I'm sure you do, Kiki Camarena.
	Tell me more.
	Kiki Camarena was, he worked for the DEA, and he went in there and exposed a whole bunch of crap that was happening in Mexico and took down a lot of the, it's called the Last Snark.
	People can see this in a TV series.
	So the cartels decided to take out Kiki Camarena, and they did.
	They grabbed him, they kidnapped him, they tortured him, they beat, they woke him up with smelling salts, with adrenaline injections, so they can keep torturing him.
	This was huge.
	I think this happened in the 80s.
	Yeah, it happened in the early 80s.
	And this made national news, international news.
	And this shined a light on the cartels, and it was the worst thing they ever did.
	This is what started the DEA, the war against drugs.
	Everything was due to this man, Kiki Camarena.
	When they took in Kiki Camarena, tortured him mercilessly, and they...
	Ended up ending his life.
	But this shined a light on them and it caused the biggest drug war ever until this day.
	It's still happening.
	The minute the cartels come over here and pull some shit, the same thing, the Kiki Kamarena effect will happen is all I'm saying.
	You're right on this.
	I'm just going to your point.
	That's what will happen because the minute they make a move, all the cartels, it'll give us permission to go in there and clean house.
	And I'm just making a point here with Kiki Camarena.
	That's what happened.
	It was a drug war.
	They could never stop.
	They could never win.
	If anyone watches the Netflix special Narcos, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
	So to your point, Boone, you are correct.
	No, I'm going to watch that.
	But that's how we're going to...
	I mean, you're going to put pressure through economic means, through military means, through covert means.
	And it's all working.
	That synchronization is happening right now in ways that is...
	A deterrent of war.
	You know, it's kind of like, you know, if you're the big dog on the block, nobody wants to fight you.
	That's just the truth.
	You know that personally.
	And then when they do, they kind of get conditioned to not do that.
	And we have overwhelming force.
	You know, we do control this battle space.
	We have for a long time.
	It's going to continue to happen.
	The only way they could have any influence is the way that they've been doing it through those irregular warfare tactics, those fifth-generation warfare tactics, and that's being denied to them now.
	So their ability to wage kinetic war is being denied solely.
	We're taking up those critical factors that help them.
	We're consuming them for ourselves, and we're also revamping the homeland.
	And I was actually on your show when I said, hey, there's two things that are going to have to happen at the same time.
	And I don't know what any time in recent history has occurred.
	One is being able to undo and redo our own government at the same time we maintain the national will to defend against our foreign adversaries.
	Those two things happen halfway.
	I said it on your show, if you remember.
	So these are the things that are absolutely happening, right?
	We are going through a modernization and a renaissance within our own government.
	At the same time, the American people do have the national will to To defend it from our foreign adversaries.
	So all of it's happening.
	And, you know, if in a weird way you want to give a hat tip to Biden, you know, that whole administration, all that.
	And I always said, you know, hey, they just jumped the shark, pushed people too far too fast, and they got rebelled against.
	Pretty smart move.
	You know, I mean, these are all things that have to happen.
	Is it part of a plan?
	Yeah.
	Whose plan?
	I think the plan of people who believe in freedom and believe in sovereignty and who don't want to be messed with or subjugated.
	And I think that's very, very important.
	And the American people are supporting it.
	They're going to continue to support it.
	But there's going to be a lot of pushback.
	Here it says, Ukrainians rally around Zelensky as Trump and Putin denigrate him.
	So they're already pushing the narrative right now.
	And I'm just switching gears.
	Sorry about that, Boone.
	But here on Zelensky, because we were talking about the rare minerals in Ukraine and things like that.
	I've always said it was the head of the snake of money laundering.
	Things of that nature.
	But the propaganda now coming out is Trump and Putin are teaming up.
	Zelensky's a dictator.
	Zelensky calls for an army of Europe.
	How do you see this playing out, man?
	Because obviously we don't want to play ball with NATO anymore.
	We want them to put in their fair share.
	But that's a shot across the bow.
	That old J.D. Vance speech in Munich was a shot across the bow to me saying, hey, we're not playing ball with you anymore.
	So what does this mean for Zelensky?
	What does this mean for Ukraine?
	What does this mean for Russia and Europe?
	Well, I think there's always an unless factor, right?
	We're not going to play ball with you unless you meet certain conditions.
	And that has not been done in recent times to any degree that was effective for the United States.
	So, you know, look at the sanctions.
	You know, you throw sanctions on Canada.
	And all of a sudden, a candidate comes back and says, hey, if you impose these sanctions, we won't have a country.
	Then Trump says, okay, great.
	Then you'll become the 51st state.
	It's one of those things where we're creating the conditions that say, if you want our support, if you want to be around us, you're going to have to satisfy the unless factor.
	Unless you do this, we're not going to do that.
	And I think that is a big factor in this administration.
	I think it's all moving towards something that we want, and I think it's something that we've lost control of over the years because of, like you say, different agencies and NGOs using certain conflicts as a way to filter money to different places.
	That's all happened.
	And with any structure, if it exists long enough, let's face it, humans are primates.
	We spin around on this big compost heap, and there's a pecking order.
	The longer a structure is in place, the more apt that it's going to fall to some sort of corruption.
	The existing structure that we built on and built on and built on and built on has simply been there to the point that it's been used to manipulate and to control funding through internal corruption that focuses on external filtering of funds towards things that lead to our demise.
	It's just time for that to go away.
	And that's what's happening right now.
	It's going to continue to happen on all fronts, socially, politically, militarily, diplomatically.
	And I think by and large, we're going to be looking back.
	Well, you and I won't.
	We'll probably be gone by then.
	But our kids are going to be looking back and they're going to go, hey, when that thing happened, that saved our country.
	And in many ways, it saves the world.
	It says here, you know, and I just want to show the propaganda that's being put out right now.
	This is Time Magazine.
	And here they have, after their initial shock at Trump's false claims this week, that Ukraine is led by a dictator who started the war with Russia.
	I mean, they've got control of all of MSN, right?
	Russia and the Ukrainian people are rallying around a defiant President Vladimir Zelensky who publicly criticized Trump for promoting Russian disinformation.
	I mean, here we go.
	This is who we're up against, really.
	Public enemy number one is the MSN.
	And I'm going to make a prediction here and say, you know, Trump has already said that...
	The Associated Press is not allowed into the White House briefings.
	I think they're on the vine getting ready to die.
	What's your thoughts on that?
	Oh, they are, people.
	I mean, it's seen over and over again.
	People are just not paying attention to the mainstream media anymore because they don't believe in it.
	And then you've got peer-to-peer communication.
	You've got peer-to-peer journalists like yourself putting out information, doing interviews with people.
	I'm a journalist?
	Well, you're not a journalist.
	You're a podcaster, but you're doing journalism because of the people that you bring on.
	Ultimately, what is journalism?
	It's messaging.
	So you're providing a space for the messaging that people are listening to and paying attention to, and you've got a good show in that capacity.
	And again, you are a good listener.
	You do have the right questions.
	You're not trying to dominate the show.
	You're letting your guests do that.
	And you ask the questions that your audience wants to know from the guest.
	I was in radio for a while, and I know that.
	The whole point of the host is not to ask questions that you want to ask, but to ask the questions that your audience wants to know.
	And that's what you do.
	I'm learning on the job, though.
	I've been criticized for interrupting and things like that, but I'm learning as I go.
	Like I said, I was a boxer, first and foremost fighter.
	And I'm doing this now, so I'm learning as I go.
	You're doing great, brother.
	You're doing great.
	You know, does anyone ever tell you you look like a Metallica?
	Yeah.
	You do, bro!
	I like it.
	It's cool, man.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	That happens.
	That happens, yeah.
	Maybe it's the glasses, man.
	I don't know.
	But I got to tell you, Boone, man, it's always a pleasure bringing you on.
	You're awesome, bro.
	And I want to have you on.
	Much more.
	Thank you for coming on.
	You bring a lot of wisdom.
	You bring a lot of experience.
	I'm just an expert in psychological warfare, man.
	Who better to have on than to talk about this stuff?
	That's where we're at right now.
	Within the fifth generation of war.
	I have a clarion call to all the psyopers out there.
	And anybody who's versed in irregular warfare, you know what's going on.
	Now's the time.
	The button has been pushed.
	Start educating the people around you.
	Don't just leave it up to me.
	I'm one guy, and believe me, I'm probably not the best guy.
	There's a better guy out there that can carry that message and educate people on this stuff.
	I humbly am reaching out to everybody out there that's been in the psychological operations field to start educating.
	Do stuff on your own and explain the doctrine and techniques.
	Stay out of the politics.
	Just focus on the doctrine and technique of these things.
	Make our populace smarter.
	And if they're smarter, they'll make good decisions.
	This is important.
	It can't be just one guy or two guys.
	It really has to be a...
	It has to be a coalition of people who understand what's happening and can effectively explain it using real-world examples that are happening around us right now.
	Because that's what makes people so much smarter.
	That's what makes them less susceptible to the propaganda and all the things that are happening around us.
	And they can use good critical thinking skills because they have some sort of stopgap between the information that's coming in.
	That gets attached to their emotions.
	You know, as a psyoper, that's job one is getting somebody emotional so they stop thinking.
	And you see that around us all the time.
	So I really do want to put a clarion call out there to everybody that understands this domain and say, hey, start talking.
	Start talking.
	Now it's time to let that information out and educating people around you.
	I have one last question, man, that I dropped the ball on this and I wanted to ask you about it.
	Michael Flynn, man, do you think that he's going to be activated soon?
	Do you think that he's going to be brought in?
	Or is he holding out on his own?
	He just doesn't...
	All I'm going to say is General Flynn is doing exactly what he wants to do, right?
	Okay.
	So he's chilling right now?
	Nope.
	He's not chilling.
	All right, cool.
	Hey, I love it.
	So I'm waiting for him to be publicly activated, right?
	So I think that's going to be it.
	Might not be.
	Okay, so he might be doing things behind the scenes.
	I don't know.
	I'll let my audience inside.
	Folks, please like, share, and subscribe to my channel.
	Push this out there.
	Let's beat the algorithm together.
	Boone Cutler, thank you so much for joining me, man.
	It's my pleasure, brother.
	Come back anytime.
	You got it.

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