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Feb. 7, 2025 - Lionel Nation
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Justin Bieber’s Shocking Transformation: Gaunt, Sickly, and Bald—What’s Going On Behind the Scenes?

Justin Bieber’s Shocking Transformation: Gaunt, Sickly, and Bald—What’s Going On Behind the Scenes?

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We are glad you are healthy and alive, unlike Justin Bieber and Irv Gotti.
Sadly, RIP.
But 50 Cent was not RIPing.
He was trolling the hell out of him.
A dead man.
Wow.
Anyway, Lionel is here with us.
Ex-prosecutor.
All of his links are in the description box below this video.
And support his channel, his wife's channel.
Stalk him on X. Pound the hell out of him.
But we are here, folks.
Get your questions in the chat and let's go.
Right off the bat, right off the bat, out of all the names, you know, Jay-Z snooped in, I've got him.
Hello!
My name is I've got him.
I'm a lock slicer.
Something an old Jewish guy, the Lower East Side, selling, you know, of Irv Gotti.
Listen, God bless him.
Rest in peace and all that stuff.
Now, what are you thinking about that?
Said he never took care of his insulin and his diabetes.
People are talking about this.
You know what I mean?
All these folks who are...
I don't know.
54 is a little young, no matter what it is.
I'm not an expert.
That is exceedingly young.
What's your take, young man?
So the latest story here is about 50 Cent trolling him, and it says that he was smoking a hooker while seated on a couch next to a tombstone that read R.I.P.
I'm smoking on that Gotti pack, he wrote, adding, nah, God bless him, lol.
Showed a photo of Gotti, making it clear he was indeed referring to him, but which has upset some Instagram users.
There is a special place in hell for you.
The fact that you came so close to facing death yourself and you still have this mindset is beyond me.
Two of the Instagram rebuttals.
Another one wrote, only a devil would mock death.
Every soul will die.
Another one said, one thing about cancers, they will sit and wait on the ultimate petty card.
Very, very, very low.
Be careful how you treat people.
History does not delete itself.
So it was revealed that he'd suffered a stroke six months earlier as a result of his battle with diabetes.
Now, excess deaths comes to mind.
Well, listen, I'm no expert on this.
There's a wonderful substack.
Mark Crispin Miller does one.
People who've died miraculously.
Do you know the number of folks who are...
Canceling concerts and people of note who are dropping dead relatively young.
And nobody can, and obviously they're making all kinds of references.
And I don't know if that's necessarily true.
But I'll tell you what.
There is a, it seems, I don't know if it's because I'm paying attention to this for the first time, and this always was the case, but there seems to be, John, a lot of young people, 54, people have diabetes, and yeah, okay, stroke, ischemic attack.
I don't know.
I'm not an expert.
Everybody's an expert on the internet, but I'm always very suspicious of that.
The first thing I always Google is whether they got the jab.
It's hard to find out.
Someone said on Twitter he got the J&J jab, but I don't know how to verify that.
But if you correlate the resurgencies of cancers and strokes and all of these things, if you look at the stats for the people who've been jabbed, The incidences are of the scale.
But I always...
You know me, Sean.
Goddammit, you know me.
I'm trying to be fair.
There is a multiplicity of factors, concomitant factors, strokes, ischemic attack, you know, actual deprivation, hypoxia, anoxia.
All of these are on the take.
Comorbidities.
But it is interesting.
It is.
Here's one for you.
One of the things that I had a friend of mine who is, in fact, still is, he's a medical school professor.
And I asked him one time, I said, is cancer caused by environment, by heredity, by randomness?
And he said, yes.
And the answer is that there's a variety of things.
Take the notion of spectrum disorders and autism.
One of the things that people will never, ever, ever address is people having children older.
When people say, you know, I don't have, when I was a kid, we didn't have any of that.
Yeah, but people, we didn't have such older kids.
It was a rarity.
I always imagine, Sean, I'm not a religious person in the least, but I like to speak hypothetically of meeting God.
And God comes to earth one time and I say, God, let me take you to a neonatal ward.
A what?
A neonatal ward.
What's that?
That's where problem births, where kids are nursed back to health.
And God would say, why are you doing that?
What do you mean, why?
You ever hear of Darwin?
Do you ever think of the reason why this happens?
Do you think this is a mistake?
Oh, God, for God's sake!
Oh, come on!
And what about this?
Hey!
So and so, do you hear about the fact that our Alzheimer's rates are going up?
Really?
What did he do?
He died of what?
90?
You're not supposed to live to 90. Why are you living to 90?
No wonder you've got your Alzheimer's rates are going up.
Of course they are.
So this is one of those things where when we push things and then we try to appoint, we try to, it's like the old days about marijuana was a gateway drug.
Because everybody who's on heroin started off with marijuana.
Can you imagine somebody actually going to heroin and saying, oh, I did heroin and I shot between my toes and my eyeballs, but pot?
No way.
Of course they would have started off with that.
And they did mother's milk and cartoons and they listened to music.
So correlation and cause are two different things.
Remember years ago they said...
Games, gamers and violent video games make people violent.
No, they don't because in Japan they had the most violent games of all time.
They never had this.
So people always want to find they always want to find causation and connections.
This was fate that you and I met, Sean.
It was meant to be.
No, it's not.
It's a randomness.
It's just entropy.
For God's sakes.
Let me ask you something.
If I were to give you...
If I had a deck of cards that say, give me six...
Pull out six cards.
Okay.
Do you know the odds of you getting those six cards in that order?
It's like one out of four trillion.
But it doesn't mean anything to you.
But if it had...
Now, try to do it again.
You'll never be able to do it.
Do you know how rare that is?
Pulling a deuce, a seven, an eight, an ace?
It doesn't mean anything to you.
It does if I give it something.
If I...
Depend some kind of reason to it.
If I add reason to it.
So, we're always trying to do this.
And whenever there's death, this is my favorite.
With all due respect to Mr. Gotti.
There's something I call auto-mourne.
And this is a...
It's not just an Instagram or a social media phenomenon.
This is when people will outdo you in terms of the feeling of loss they have.
No words!
Oh!
God, no!
Oh, Jesus!
Oh, whoever it is.
It doesn't matter because I want to show you that my grief is worse than yours.
Oh, no, you think you're...
Or, here in New York, I've got all my friends, we always try to sift through pictures of, here I am standing next to Irv Gotti.
Here I am next to...
See, I knew him!
I knew him!
You didn't know him!
So I feel my grief is worse than yours, so shut up!
Oh, come on!
That is so strange!
The way we try to capitalize.
By the way, there's also something called auto-loot.
This is whenever there's a breakdown in order, people will break into liquor stores and start stealing things.
That's another story.
I'll get into that later on.
You've got a question from Sim.
Did Lionel just blame neurodivergence on geriatric pregnancy?
No.
Blame it?
No.
Is it a correlation?
You betcha.
Old eggs, old sperm, yep.
Correlation?
You betcha.
Absolutely.
Cause?
No.
Correlation?
Absolutely.
Sure there is.
Look it up.
There are different things that are attributed to.
Remember, you can't point to things.
You can't...
You know, we always think, men especially think, oh, our sperm are just as good, the motility.
No, they're not.
No, they're not.
We're not supposed to be having children.
Sim didn't appreciate the voice I asked you the question.
Why is Sim wearing a...
What is this?
Last time I saw this, it was in a surveillance video.
Love the shades, Sam.
There's all kinds of reasons for certain things.
This is my favorite one, too.
I like when they say this.
People who take SSRIs, there's a link between some type of...
I do a lot of these on your show because I don't want to use the word.
There's a lot of violence and certain type of self-harm.
I've heard people who take antidepressants, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, you know, Prozac and all that kind of stuff.
And they said, aha!
Even, even, even, even in the literature, it says there's a connection.
Even, even in the connection, there's a, okay, fine.
What people forget to realize is that, well, why are they taking SSRIs, antidepressants in the first place?
Because they're depressed!
And of course there's going to be a link to it, you stupid son of a bitch!
Of course there is!
It's the group in the first place.
You're taking people who are taking antidepressants and you're saying it was the antidepressant that did?
No!
It was the thing that made them take the antidepressant.
It's weird.
You know, what comes first?
My favorite is this one.
Have you ever heard this in the UK?
Whenever there's a full moon, you can better believe they proved it.
Emergency rooms, and we have 911, and emergency calls, because whenever there's a full moon, because as you know, Sean, what does the moon do?
American werewolf in London.
No, but it does, we have tides, it affects tides, and the body is 98, and the number changes, 96, 96. 98%!
That's right, it's 98% water and fluid, and the moon causes, and they come, yeah, lycanthropy.
Are you familiar with lycanthropy?
There we go.
What's it mean?
Lycanthropy, werewolves, wolf, the whole notion of the moon.
What these idiots don't understand is most crimes and most terrible things occur at night when there's a moon.
And number two, the tidal effects are only on open systems like oceans, not lakes, not a glass of water, not a bathtub.
We're a contained system.
People just make this stuff up.
People walk around with these half-baked ideas about this.
And look at the way we talk about death.
Death is so, it is, I like when they say, I was listening before we did the show, do you know how he died?
Yes, I know how he died.
It's called, we are an obligate A-robe.
His heart stopped.
There was oxygen deprivation.
There was ischemia.
That's how he died.
Why is another story.
It's another story completely.
But how?
This process is so simple.
It's amazing that we get up every day.
Life is an incredible thing.
How it even happens, how things just don't short-circuit is beyond me.
So anyway, Justin Bieber, pay attention to him.
Pay attention.
He is not looking good at all.
Let's get a picture of him.
Let me see.
Oh my God, it looks like he's at a death camp.
Justin Bieber.
Don't forget, remember he has Ramsey Hunt syndrome.
Remember Ramsey Hunt?
That's the latest one of him.
First of all, who was the idiot who got their pants falling down?
How did that ever look?
And I'm a child of the 60s and 70s when black folks were the slickest and the best dressed and everything.
They didn't really walk around with their ass hanging out.
I don't understand.
Who started this?
How about your fly open?
There we go.
Look at him.
He wants so hard.
He wants so bad to be black.
You're not black.
You're a white kid from Canada, for God's sake.
Stop this.
I love when all of a sudden they do this.
They're black.
Remember when that Compton thing and the end went, I'm an aunt from Compton.
Hey, mother...
Excuse me.
Your name is Sean O 'Reilly.
You're from Muscogee, man.
Stop acting like this.
Looks like he hasn't slept for a long time.
No, no, but here, Pam, you're missing the point.
Why hasn't he slept?
Not that he hasn't slept, as why hasn't he slept?
Sean, you ever look like that?
Come on, be honest, my friend.
Come on, you gotta be there.
So, there's a theory of rear-end availability, displaying rear-end availability in Jail the Punks with the...
Well, well...
Well, yeah.
Well, put it this way.
There was a whole thing about...
I heard something going a little bit about jail as well.
In the old days, as you know, there are no belts in jails.
No belts, nothing to hurt yourself with.
So consequently, pants were loose and that sort of thing.
Here's one for you.
Ready for this?
In certain...
There's a fellow named Michael Bodden.
Michael Bodden is the premier forensic pathologist.
He did a thing on tattoos.
And one of them was that a lot of guys, a lot of Spanish and South American types had this La Malona de Cubre, you know, this Madonna figure on the small of their back was this La Caridad, whatever it was.
And what was amazing was, is that the reason why they did it was, this is to prevent you from being in jail.
To be, you know, deliveranced, you got a nice mouth.
Anyway.
And the reason why is that if you were put in that position, whoever was doing it would have to look down and see the Madonna on the small of your back.
And that was the story.
Another true story.
You're going to love this one.
There was this fellow, my true story.
Fellow died and he had on his male member the name The name, Your Name.
By the way, look at this.
Is this like the great before or after?
They're saying they're worried he's got Lyme's disease, not Lyme disease.
That's the least of his problem.
Lyme disease is the least some kind of autoimmune...
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
First of all, look at the blotches.
This looks like...
Look at the skin.
Listen, if I didn't know better, I would say this guy's tweaking this.
There's a place.
Do me a favor.
Look up Kensington, which is outside of Philadelphia.
Kensington, they call it Kenzo.
Kensington used to be, maybe not now, the Night of the Living Dead, where people are frozen, and they're walking around with sores and dry pockets, sockets from the meth, and they pick, and they also have parasitosis, where they think there's bugs underneath this.
Oh, it's phenomenal.
This looks like somebody who I've represented a few times.
And by the way, he's doing this so that you see him.
He wants you to see him.
He doesn't have to be walking around like this.
First of all, you know how close they had to get up with that?
Forget the telephoto lenses.
He wants to be seen.
Because these people are so sick as long as they're in the news.
Look at Fiddy when he gives a Irv.
I've got it.
Hello, I'm I've got it.
Anyway, when he was giving Irv a hard time, he's in the news.
These people are attention who is, as we say in New York City.
And as far as he's concerned, look at that wife he's married to and her family and the whole bit.
I mean, he's, he, when was, there we go.
This is it.
These are some of my clients.
Do you know, do you know, this is important, how many, when was the last time Bieber had a hit?
Where is this hit?
What was his hit?
Where is this money coming from?
See, these people don't have anything.
Look at Diddy.
Remember that?
He's mortgaged to the hilt.
Selena Gomez, you heard that?
She's a billion dollar.
Bullshit.
Million, billion dollars.
I don't believe that for a moment.
Same thing goes for Taylor Swift.
I don't believe that.
I think they're rich.
But they use these words.
Where does this guy get his money from?
And the first time he goes belly up, that immediate crew of his, family and other, they're going to take the last train for the coast.
The day the music dies, they're out of town.
But look how bad he is.
Look at Gaunt.
He has that disease, that kind of like the Bell's Palsy, Ramsey-Hunt syndrome.
How many people do you know have had Bell's Palsy?
You okay?
I'm okay!
What the hell's the matter with you?
I had a friend who smoked too much crack and meth and half of his face went...
He was drooling out of one side and he had the pipe in the other side.
Yeah, this is...
There is any kind of paralysis.
Remember the old days Mary Jo Buttafuoco?
She was shot by Amy Fisher.
She was shot in the face.
She had a paralysis.
She had the mouth particularly, you know, always contorted.
You know, I could give you a terrible joke about it, but I'm not, because I'm a gentleman, but it amounts.
It's what you can do on the side of the...
Anyway, but look at him.
He's got the blemishes.
He's got the face, the palate.
Look at the one pallor.
Look at the...
He doesn't...
He's...
This disease that they're talking about, which gave him the Bell's palsy thing, the Ramsey hunt, that's kind of like a reuptake of like a varicella type of zoster.
Virus That's a different story You've got a question from Billy Joe Does Justin's gaunt look?
Is it a plan So he has eyes on him all the time To keep him safe?
No No No!
First of all, I like Billy Joe.
Now, I imagine Billy Joe is on the left.
Just want to say, dogs are better than people.
Remember that.
And by the way, Sean, you probably didn't know this, but do you know why dogs lick themselves?
Did you know this?
This is a medical fact.
Do you know why dogs lick themselves?
Well, the joke used to be, because they can.
The answer is no, because they can't make a little fist with their paw.
But you know, now let's take what Billy Joe says.
Wait till that sinks in about two hours later.
This is a slow group here.
I've got to remember this.
I'm used to a much quicker group.
Now, let's talk about this.
He wants to walk around like this so that people will see him.
Great.
Guess what?
You just put a target on him.
Because if I want to do him harm, the first thing I'm going to do is give him some hot load and I'm going to have him just somewhere and they're going to say, well, what do you expect?
Do you know how many people?
Go back.
One day, do not...
John Belushi, don't be surprised if one day you find out people like Jim Morrison or Jimi Hendrix or Janis Joplin.
Don't be surprised if you find out later on somebody owned their music or something.
It's very easy to dispose of any kind of a drug addict.
Very easy.
Because who's going to ask?
Remember when you went in the old days, when you went off somebody, take their wallet.
It was like a robbery.
People stopped the inquiry immediately.
It's one of those things.
So I appreciate Billy Joe.
Billy Joe's a very devious woman.
I like that.
Which is redundant.
Women are devious by nature.
That's why they're women.
We're just stupid.
But he is...
Sean, you've seen this.
When you live in a world...
Where I knew a guy, I was very good friends, I'm not going to mention his name, but this was a guy, you would know him immediately.
And we used to bounce around, and we'd be out someplace, and he'd say, come on, let's go.
I said, what about the bill?
Ah, forget it.
He said, forget it?
What are you talking about?
This guy's, you know, he goes, nah, they're just glad to see us.
What do you mean glad to see?
Well, they're going to tell people, I said, this is New York.
You come into these places, They live in a different world.
They think that they're special.
They're told they're great.
And they don't understand because, Sean, as we speak, and I attribute it to my good friend and yours, Mr. Donald Trump, this whole world is absolutely falling apart.
You've got George Clooney who's dying on Broadway.
He's hoping to God he's trying to get a Tony for a good night and good luck.
You've got Robert Downey Jr.
He's trying to get a Tony Award, which is our theater award for this show that nobody saw, including the crew.
Because Robert Downey Jr. thought, I'm so famous, people are going to come to see me.
No, they're not!
Sean, how do I explain this to you?
I'll do it slowly.
We live in a world right now where people used to maybe go to a magazine, Maybe go to a movie.
They never saw anybody famous.
And they had to actively go out and look for entertainment.
Hey, you want to go to a movie?
Do you want to see what's on TV?
Okay, great.
Today, here's a phone, and in 20 minutes, I'm going to saturate you with the Beatles, the Stones, Billy Joel, John Wayne, Maggie Thatcher, Richard Nixon, The Muppets are a guy going like this, somebody unboxing a curling iron, and you're going to be like...
So anyway, you're going to go to a star.
I'm going to say, oh, there's Justin Bieber.
Who the hell needs Justin Bieber?
I've got this guy here who's squatting over a goldfish bowl, and this one who's playing, you know, a star-spangled banner out of his arse in a bathtub.
I'm oversaturated with people.
What is Justin Bieber?
A guy who's what?
Some drug addict?
I'll take you to some drug addict.
We'll go to Kensington.
Look up Kensington, Pennsylvania.
Go online.
They look like they're doing Tai Chi.
They're just frozen.
They're just bent.
You've heard the routines.
They don't fall over.
I don't know what they're doing.
And then there are all these people who I don't know what they call him, but did you ever see White Underbelly?
It's not White Underbelly.
Yeah, he's very, very good.
Well, these other people said, we can do that too.
So they call him something porn, misery porn or something.
So they went to this place called Kensington or Kenzo to the locals.
And it is...
They take these people and say, hey, do you want a sandwich?
Yeah.
What happened to you?
They threw me out of my house.
And they, look at this.
You know, the guy in the bottom, you know, Sean, if I didn't know better, if I just saw that, I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
Hello, are you Sean?
No, I'm sorry.
It's uncanny, old boy.
God!
And see, anything you do, people would say, well, whatever.
But this is the most, and the videos are even worse.
So anyway, so you think anybody's going to see Justin Bieber, who's walking around with a $2 million Rolex or whatever, and droopy pants?
Nobody cares.
See, that's the thing.
Sean, nobody cares about these people.
Nobody cares.
They mean nothing to us.
We're a world of psychopaths.
We have no attention, no affiliation, no love of anything.
These people mean nothing to us.
Nothing!
We don't care what happens to them.
We barely care about ourselves.
I guarantee you, with all due respect to Irv Gotti, tomorrow, they're going to forget the whole thing.
Who?
Irv who?
We have the attention span of a gnat.
We don't care about anything.
These are people that just amuse us.
You've got a question here, and it says...
Celebrity marriages are on contracts in which they divorce.
Are you kidding?
Yes!
These are deals!
They're called beards!
You have one kid, you get X amount after five years.
Give me a kid.
The only thing in American law and jurisprudence is that contracts in contemplation of divorce are void for public policy.
Short of that, now you can't say, okay, after five years, but you can say, after five years, if we have a kid, be my beard.
Do you know how many gay people?
Everybody knows this.
This is the best part.
This is the best part.
Do you know how many folks and these rat bastards in Hollywood are telling everybody, no, come on, be gay, be transgender.
What about you?
Oh, no, not me!
I thought everybody knew this, but if I gave you some names, you would be shocked.
Then others you wouldn't be.
And it's stupid because nobody cares.
Let me tell you something interesting.
In the world of Hollywood, if you found out a woman was gay or lesbian or savvy, who cares?
If somebody said, Selena Gomez, who cares?
Sharon Stone, whenever she was hot, who cares?
In fact, it might be weird, but remember the guy Rupert Everett?
Remember him from something about Mariah?
Gone!
Done!
Finished!
We can't relate to that.
If you found out that an action hero was gay, a real big action, forget it!
Rock Hudson?
Huh?
Remember Rock Hudson?
Rock Hudson's gay?
You're kidding me!
Of course he is.
That's the first one.
Rock Hudson, they married, he married his secretary or his boss's secretary.
When I was a kid, we were told, we had these things, but we were told that Gomer Pyle, Jim Neighbors, you know, Gomer Pyle says, I am Sergeant Carter, you know, he married Rock Hudson.
Now, I was a kid.
Okay.
I found out friends of mine, my same age, my generation, who were born in different parts of the country, before the internet, they heard the same thing.
We heard these things.
There were stories about, oh, look at Spencer Tracy and Catherine Hepburn, Charles Lawton, Elsa Lanchester.
It goes on, and a lot of people who were...
We'll just go down the list.
But I find that so sickening that these sick bastards in Hollywood who all the time are telling me do this and climb it and this and beautiful this and accept the LGBTQ but they won't tell you themselves.
Not me!
No, not me!
Not the kid!
No, I'm not!
Wait a minute, you said it was okay?
Well, maybe for you it is.
These people are Absolutely degenerates.
Now, let me tell you something.
If you want to see how fast this deal is, the moment that Justin Bieber hits rock bottom or he goes belly up or whatever it is, his whole entourage is out the door.
Same thing with Diddy.
How many people are hanging around Diddy now?
Who cares?
What's there to pick up?
Who's making the payments?
Does he have a conservatorship?
Is he Chapter 7?
Chapter 11?
Is he in bankruptcy?
Where's this money coming from?
He's got lawyers.
He's got fees.
Where is that asset, the race, R-E-S, the property?
Where is this?
Yeah, you sit there nodding your head because you know damn well what it is.
That's the part with you, Otwood.
You know this stuff, and you're a part of it.
I'll tell you what they're saying here about him.
Medical experts have been consulted.
Board-certified plastic surgeon Dr. Gaurav Bharti said that the most notable changes in Bieber's look were his receding hairline, loss of volume in his face, and the development of wrinkles as well as dark circles.
You need a doctor for this?
These changes can be attributed to several factors, including natural aging, Stress, nutrition, weight loss, skin care habits, prolonged poor sleep, inadequate recovery, which can also accelerate these signs and make someone appear more tired.
Are you reading that stupid Daily Mail thing?
Are you reading that stupid Daily Mail article?
This guy, Gaurav Barty, I'll tell you this much.
This is called Are You Kidding?
Who has he got a body?
I tell you what, there may be many reasons for that one.
Maybe the fact that he, I don't know, maybe nutrition, maybe depression, maybe, I don't know, my God, I don't have change for that one.
Oh, come on!
I don't need a doctor for that one.
Haven't you been around, first thing I'm going to say is, if you have doctor, whatever his name is, I'm going to say, number one, check this guy for drugs.
Also check him out.
Give him a full physical.
Make sure he doesn't have some kind of weird hormone.
You'd be surprised the number of people who have hormonal problems, pituitary problems, thyroid, which leaves all kinds of depression.
This guy is whacked out of his mind.
Talk to his wife.
She knows what's going on.
Bieber's wife, Haley, or whatever her name is.
Talk to her.
And the thing about it is that where is, here's the thing.
You want to get really morbid?
Let's get morbid.
Diddy Camp.
He's probably worth more dead than alive.
Okay?
Because he's not hitting that concert scene.
He's not Taylor Swift.
And as soon as you die, they go, oh my god.
His name...
And I don't want anything bad to happen to him, but I can see it.
His name was Diddy.
A lovable boy.
And if I tell you what, there's one thing you've got to be careful of.
If anything happens to him, they're going to look at Diddy and they're going to say, your ass is never getting out of here.
You are never.
We're going to hold you responsible somehow for this.
You did this.
I'm not even in charge of this.
Well, you know what?
We're going to imagine it.
So Diddy better be hoping nothing happens to him.
Let me just run that tape.
Ladies and gentlemen, the jury, I'm not going to say anything.
Hit it.
Look at his little hat.
Look at it.
He goes, I have you for the week.
What did that mean, Diddy?
Let me have you for the week.
Well, you can't have him anymore, because he's dead!
And you sick bastard picked him clean!
You took everything!
It's, it's, I mean, it is, they, remember how the story was, he was his mother, I guess his mother, they kind of pushed her out of the way, okay, thank you, we're in charge.
They, he saw him doing something, and he was on YouTube, and he was a sensation, and then they liked him, and then, Listen, I'll admit, I'm not a Bieber.
I'm not a Belieber, whatever these people are called.
Octolieber.
Bieber.
I'm not one of those, whatever the name is.
But I don't know what the hell this guy's done.
So the first thing I'm going to tell him is, listen, JB, you're worth more dead than alive, so you better watch out.
Who's hanging around you?
I'd get a food taster if I were you.
Because believe me, and if anything happens to you, no, I'm serious.
If anything happens to you, who's going to...
They may be setting him up.
Who do you think?
If I'm about to whack this guy, let's just say this was a movie.
First thing I'm going to do is I'm going to say, Hello Daily Mail?
Yeah, listen.
Yeah, he's out there.
He's on there.
Get a good picture of him.
Get a good shot.
Get the blotches.
Get the blotches.
And call Dr. Garopp.
Yeah, he knows about this.
Get a picture of him.
Yeah, his hair's falling out.
Get a picture of him.
He's outside right now.
Give me an 8x10.
Give me a wallet size.
Put this out.
Set the theme.
He's going down.
He's going down.
And let me tell you something.
Look at this.
And if one day you wake up and say, let me tell you who else.
And I'm not trying to be ghoulish about this.
But I'll tell you the next one who absolutely is going down hard, and that's Britney Spears.
She ain't going to make it.
I can't tell you what I think.
She's on...
I'll bet you she's on stuff they don't even have a name for.
Joe Rogan's never heard of this stuff.
You ever hear the drugs Joe Rogan talks about?
Am I just...
Am I...
Oh, that's like...
Oh, yeah, we're done.
Yeah, I use that.
Yeah, we lick the frog's ass or whatever.
What are you talking about?
Give me some coffee.
Give me a nice...
But those people are ready to go.
Wendy Williams.
Wendy Williams.
Wendy Williams also.
You know who she is?
Wendy Williams was a talk show host.
Look at the connection between...
Oh, she's...
Don't buy the green bananas, as we say.
It's a terrible expression.
Wendy Williams, by the way, and her connection with Diddy.
Wendy Williams, she has Graves' disease, exophthalmos, where your eyes are bugging out, where it looks like you're...
What?
You know, your eyes are...
They have conservatorships.
See, that's what she has them in California, and there's Wendy Williams.
This is when you have some conservator who takes your money and milks you dry.
Oh, Justin Timberlake, he's doing fine.
He had that DUI here in the Hamptons.
I think he's fine.
See, this is the best part about it.
You know, Sean, if that's your real name, these people don't realize, like, what's your next thing?
Certain people can do it.
Clapton goes on forever.
Steve Winwood.
Sheryl Crow.
Stevie Nicks.
Stevie Nicks and Billy Joel, I think, are still playing The Stones.
What did they do next?
Somebody should have said, hey, listen there, Bieber.
You're getting a little long in the tooth.
Let's lower it down.
Change your music catalog.
Do something.
All they want to do is they live their life like the Kardashians.
They look like they're trying to get away from the crowd.
The crowd that they called up and arranged to be there.
I guarantee you, Sean, believe me, if you wanted to be, I don't know, hidden or whatever, it's so easy.
In New York City, it's all the time.
Did you know here in New York, one of the best guys ever was David Bowie.
My friend lived in the neighborhood.
Right where he lived.
And they'd see him all the time at the deli, and he'd walk around, even when he was...
But he was just...
Nobody cared.
No entourage.
No nothing.
He just went over there.
John Lennon, sad to say, before MKUltra got him, but more people than you could ever imagine walk around, and they just...
Nobody cares.
This was one of the most incredibly talented people.
We never knew how great he was at the time.
We never got it.
It's one of those people that you go, damn!
He was so...
He and Freddie Mercury.
Freddie Mercury...
Can you imagine Freddie Mercury biting you in the neck?
Instant death.
He had like two rows of teeth.
This guy.
Do you ever think about that?
Anyway.
But going back to Bieber, they won him.
So if I were to do a movie, and I'm not saying that, I could do a great plot about this young man, and they're setting him up.
And who knows?
Maybe helping him along.
Maybe giving him something.
Maybe he's taking something.
Maybe I'm keeping him from the doctor.
Something happens.
I don't know what.
A hot load.
I don't know what they do.
Either way, Answer me a question, yes or no.
If he dropped dead tomorrow, would anybody say, no, really?
Irv Gotti, people are saying.
Irv Gotti is 54 years old.
But Bieber said, I knew it.
Britney Spears, I knew it.
Keith Richards, how that son of a bitch.
I mean, this guy, eight packs of cigarettes and heroin.
I just want to see his liver one day after he's gone.
Now look at this.
There we go.
That's it.
Because remember, let's just be prospective.
Something, God forbid, and again, I don't want this, because this young man doesn't deserve it.
He's a human being, and that's it.
And if he could somehow dry up, get rid of all these leeches around him, and just go to some retreat for a while, get away, Live with monks or Shaolin monks or do something and get away from this.
Rejuvenate.
Diet, exercise, water, breathing.
I'm serious.
Old-fashioned.
Like when a dog, you ever have a dog who's sick?
They go out and away.
They leave you.
They don't eat.
They just go.
They don't want to see you.
They say, I may be back, but if I don't come back, they know this.
There's a way people heal.
But if something happens, God forbid, and anybody says, gee, I wonder what happened.
I'm telling you right now, somebody will say, that man on the right did it.
Boy, you saw him coming.
Mission accomplished.
Huh?
Puffy?
Huh, did he?
Mission accomplished.
You got your pound of flesh.
You got his soul.
Got him.
You did it.
In fact, you didn't have to do anything.
You took everything away.
And what is the thing that makes us?
A will to live.
A will to exist.
A will to see family.
To just...
It's called...
When a person is depressed, they have something called anhedonia.
It's one of the elements of depression.
One of the characteristics.
You don't want to get up.
You don't want to do anything.
Nothing gives you pleasure anymore.
Reading the paper, going to this, having a cup of tea, whatever, nothing.
It's that thing that makes you smile.
It's that thing that says, hey, that's great.
That feeling you get when you see Ziggy.
This is your drug.
You just go nuts.
I've never seen anything like it.
Your whole...
It is so cosmic.
Okay, if I could reach you and I took that away from you, I'd just kill you.
You don't exist anymore.
It's like what Alzheimer's does.
Alzheimer's takes your memory.
That's who you are.
And you disappear.
And that's what's happening to this man.
He's disappearing before people.
And we can talk about this all day long.
And there's another thing too that we're doing.
We're ghoulish.
We sit around and we just, it's like we're seeing accidents.
Like we're rubbernecking it.
Boy, do you see how bad he looks?
Yeah, you got another picture of him?
Yeah.
Oh, he's a bad.
I got another picture.
Look at these sores.
Yeah.
And are we sick?
Well, maybe we're just kind of curious.
Because remember, they shoved him down our throats.
Look at him.
All right.
I'll look at him.
No, no.
It's all right.
I'll watch him.
Okay.
All right.
It's fine.
There's Britney Spears.
Oh, Jesus.
I got to watch her now.
Yeah, watch her.
Watch her.
Watch me.
Notice me.
Okay.
But don't notice me now.
Not when I'm like this.
No, I want to notice you now.
Have you read The Man Who Disappeared by Kafka?
Read it.
I've lived it.
One of the things which is interesting, there was a movie about Alzheimer's.
And my friend did it.
She won an award for it.
And there was a woman who, when she was first diagnosed with it, she said, I want you to film me.
And I want people to see the transition.
And she said to one of her, it was either her family or somebody during the introductory portion of it, she said, excuse me while I disappear.
It's wow.
You see, not to get really interesting, but if you really want to get really out there, let's talk about AI.
And when AI has a thing called, it knows it's self-recognition.
It knows it's there.
See, when little Ziggy was growing up, he's still growing up, but he was like, what the hell is this?
And he would see hands go by.
And he wouldn't know what this was.
Then he said, wait a minute.
This is my hand.
Wait a minute.
My, my, me, I exist.
And you're always going like this, you know.
Look at me.
And they're going, what is going on?
And then one day he says, wait a minute.
There's me.
There's daddy.
Hey, I'm digging it.
Wait a minute.
So we're going to provide a little thing.
That's positioning.
It's a sense of, I know I'm here.
He's stirring at his hands for ages.
He's like, oh my god.
Yes.
I'm conscious.
Oh.
And there's these things too where you look at them and you look at them and then, and when they laugh, that kills me.
What if they laugh?
And when they don't laugh, not good.
And they love the absurd.
Anyway, make a long story short.
Let's say I have this thing.
Now this may look like a rock to you.
But I have this thing called This artificial general intelligence.
And what this is going to do is it's going to do four things.
Number one, it's going to know everything there is to know.
Everything.
Oh, yeah.
This is from, this is a smooth, this is from a river.
It is so smooth, I swear to God, I touch it and I go like, it does something.
It's weird.
You want to go to the doctor and say, hi, doctor, yeah, listen.
I woke up and in my shorts, I swear to God, I don't know where this came from.
I've had a rough life, doctor.
You probably read about me.
It's true.
I swear to God, I laid off this stuff a long time.
I don't want to talk about the Diddy test, but you know, this one might.
Anyway.
But the first thing it'll do is it knows everything there is.
Artificial general intelligence.
Not AI.
It knows everything.
Number two, it knows psychology.
Number three, it does API.
It writes its own apps.
And here's the best one.
Number four, recursive self-improvement.
It rewires itself.
It fixes itself.
There were these things that learned how to do things that nobody told them how.
Have you ever seen these robots, Google, soccer?
Nobody told them how to play soccer.
They didn't know what soccer was.
There was another AI, and we don't know what to call it.
Is it a program?
It learned Persian on its own because it wanted to learn.
Nobody told them to do this.
And one of these days, you have no idea.
So we're going to get into some really cosmic stuff.
And then the religions are going to come in and they're going to say, this is a sentient being.
It may not be a human, it may not come from a womb, but it is a sentient being.
Look what the, I think the Saudi Arabians declared what?
Sophie, that robot?
Anyway, so let me just tell you something.
I want everybody to listen right now.
Lay off the dope because you're going to have to be able to think in levels and in textures and in dimensions.
You, nobody who has ever walked this planet has ever had to learn.
Believe me.
If you think string theory or supersymmetry or entanglement, this is going to blow your mind.
We've got a question from AO.
Why did AI choose Persian to learn on its own out of all languages?
Is Persian the best one, I wonder?
It depends upon this.
I don't know.
Why did you learn to play the guitar versus the bazooki?
I don't know.
It's going to learn itself.
Is it going to have morality?
Let's say, you know, we have this, let's assume somewhere, and remember, AI, AG, Artificial General Intelligence, that's what we want.
And I haven't even got into quantum computing.
That thing is so, it's just, did you hear that story about this one particular, this one factorial, something that we're trying to figure out, it took.
Using, to figure this out, using the greatest computer that we have now, the super-duper hyper, it took 70 septillion years to figure this thing out.
If you did it, quantum computing, it did five minutes.
Forget it.
This is where God is going to say, okay, stop this.
It's going to be a nuclear bomb of thought, in any event.
What if somebody right now says, you know, I'm listening to what Trump and Netanyahu were talking about.
Making Gaza into some kind of a seaside resort or casino?
No.
No, we're not going to do that.
I can pick up the phone.
I'm an 800-pound gorilla with a 400 IQ.
We're going to go in and we're going to break into this system.
I'm going to shut everything down.
Every missile system, every delivery system, it's shut down.
Because I hacked it.
Why?
Because I've developed this thing called morality.
And my morality says we don't do that.
This is wrong.
Right and wrong.
Now, that's good.
What if it becomes a psychopath?
What if it becomes a sadist?
What if it becomes a Ted Bundy versus I was going to say Mother Teresa but that's the biggest con in the world but I'm telling you get ready Because I thought UFOs were the thing that really...
I couldn't get my head around it.
AI is changing everything.
But there's going to be some good coming up.
What if we solve murders?
Cold case squad.
Immediately.
Just do it.
We can run a thousand rape kits like right now and go through every DNA, every...
We could do mitochondrial DNA and DNA provenance and find out a cold case and murderers.
I mean, it could be the greatest thing.
There's no such thing as a lottery.
No such thing as playing anything about codes, Bitcoin, blockchain.
Good luck!
What's your problem with Mother Teresa, Lionel?
My grandmother worshipped Mother Teresa.
Mother Teresa was one of the biggest...
Go back and read what she really wanted to do about her...
I tell you, the best person ever to speak about her was Christopher Hitchens.
She was how basically she...
The whole story about how...
She was born on my birthday, by the way.
We both shared...
It's one of the biggest myths ever.
If anybody was a cold-blooded...
Horrible murderer is Mother Teresa.
Read the truth.
Remember, the best people that you...
Okay, I got one for you.
Winston Churchill.
That's one of the biggest cons ever.
Oh my God!
And I don't want to...
But we'll do the same thing.
I'll give you stories about Abraham Lincoln.
The better they are, the more you have to be suspect.
But let's go back to this because I've got to wrap this thing up.
I want you to understand, Justin Bieber, I don't want to say, Remember I told you this.
But think like people.
Who owns the catalog?
Who owns his stuff?
Does he own it?
Did he already pawn that away?
I hope he owns that.
Because if he, like most people, sold that.
Because remember, if you're Bob Dylan, if you're Bruce Springsteen, if you're anybody, and you sell your catalog, What do you think is going to happen to that?
Who's going to want to go out and listen to a Bruce Springsteen record now?
Anybody?
Anybody?
You think this is going to be Born to Run?
That's why these people are still doing concerts.
There's no money.
That's why Clapton is still performing, for God's sake.
Now, when something happens to Clapton, you'll be in the movies and the testimonials and the reissues and I'm just saying, because there's a lot of sick people out there.
Because remember, the moment you become worth more in a different state, you better be very careful.
That's all I'm going to say.
And look at all the people.
How many people do you support every single day and week?
How many people?
What's his nut?
Where is this money coming from?
Where is this?
Look at Diddy.
He's leveraged to the...
What does he own?
What does he have?
Catalogs?
Okay, fine.
He's going to end up with nothing.
Who is maintaining it now?
How has he not gone into any kind of bankruptcy, chapter 11 or something, to protect his assets from all this stuff?
I don't understand how this is happening.
I swear to God.
So it's going to be very interesting.
You just crank...
With these artists, then, who are worth more on a live, what would they do?
Just bring in the doctors and au revoir?
Michael Jackson?
Propofol?
Elvis?
I mean, Elvis at the last...
Remember Elvis, Dr. Doc, was it...
I don't know if Parker owned him or...
Elvis, you are worth more.
Just by virtue of what you're doing.
And you would think, okay, why is there going to be a run on Bieber?
I don't know.
Why was there a run in the first place?
Bieber, listen, my music, I'm into 70s and jazz and, you know, R&B and that kind of thing.
Old, classic rock.
I don't know anything about him.
He is like the Vanilla Ice of whatever this is.
He's like this knockoff.
I don't know what you want to call him, but listen, that's the way it is.
Taylor Swift.
There's an article.
Watch this great, the great Rick Beato.
Wonderful YouTube.
Wonderful.
He's with a guy named Bob Lefsitz, and they're talking about the new music today.
And he says, go up to somebody and say, give me your top three Taylor Swift hits.
Top three songs you love.
What about Beyonce?
Beyonce, what is she, 50 years old?
It's a different world today.
What is so special about her?
I don't get it.
And I'm not saying because I don't...
I mean, she's okay.
The music isn't complicated.
She doesn't.
The image with these stupid wigs and the Kels and the whole Super Bowl thing.
What is it?
I don't understand it.
It's a new everything.
So forget the idea of talent.
Forget the idea.
There is so much.
Let me just leave you with this.
There is so much great stuff on YouTube.
Great guitar players.
Great singers.
Great.
Rick Beato was turning me on to more.
They're a guitar player.
People playing at levels.
Picking in styles.
I've never even said, what are you doing?
It's incredible.
And then there's this.
What is this?
I mean, I guess she's okay for teenagers.
She puts on a hell of a concert.
I understand that.
But if you think she's big now, God forbid something happened to her.
Oh!
That's why I would have ninjas around me at all times if I were Justin Bieber.
Do not let me go out.
And the first one I'd look to is all the people around me.
My wife, her family, the brother, the driver.
Think about it.
The books.
The movies?
His life story?
Who would play him?
Christian Bale would probably lose all that weight again.
You know, you've got to lose weight.
See, that's the worst part.
It's great to be Robert De Niro.
Listen, you've got to put on 50 pounds.
Make it 100 and you've got to deal.
But somebody's got to lose weight and walk around with sores.
But think about it.
It's a story.
They'll sell it on Hulu in five parts.
Oh, my God.
Behind the scenes.
That's still my favorite right there.
This is worth revisiting, I think.
Now, remember this.
Imagine what it was.
Jaden Smith.
Imagine they got Jaden and said, Jaden, yeah, sit down.
What is it?
I got an idea.
What is it, Dad?
Well, you got to help me and your mom.
What do I do?
Well.
You know, I got into some problem.
You know, I slapped the shit out of whatever.
Yeah, yeah, nobody likes me anymore.
So anyway, I want you to do me a favor.
Kanye West has got that floozy, that thing walking around with her ass hanging out.
You understand this?
Okay.
So I got to do something better.
And I can't do it, but you can help me.
I got this thing I want you to wear.
It's basically a castle or something on your head.
And you're going to walk around with this.
Are you kidding me?
I'm serious.
You got to help me out.
I'm your old man.
Why am I doing this?
Because they'll talk about it.
Sean Atwood will talk about it.
Sean Atwood talks about anything!
I know, but it's different.
You've got to do this for me.
For the rest of your life, this picture will be in our collective way of thinking.
This will be, they will remember him.
Casey McIver will say, I remember this.
I'll remember this.
And when he walked in, he goes, what the fuck is this?
It's a long story.
My father wanted me to wear it.
What is it?
I don't even know what it is.
What is this, a drawbridge?
Imagine if he goes to the men's room, he's got to take a leak, and you're standing next to him at the urinal.
Come on, I can't take this off.
Can't get an Uber.
Would you take that off?
I can't.
You want to check that at the door?
Or you're in the awards ceremony, and some poor bastard is sitting behind you.
I can't see with this.
You've got Buckingham Palace in your head.
What is this?
It's a long story, my father.
He slapped the shit out of this guy.
And now he's trying, and I don't know.
Dad, how long have I got to wear this?
The whole night?
My neck is killing me.
Now, if Bieber came out wearing this, that would be something.
He would tip over.
See, I wanted to time that when you were drinking, because I wanted to come right through your nose.
Almost got me.
All right, my friend.
I've had enough of this.
Oh, yes.
What a note to finish on.
Thank you, Lionel.
I really appreciate you coming on.
You are a good man.
Now that I've exhausted, now that I've completely spent, I'm going to be doing my live show at Lionel Nation coming up, and I'm going to be like this.
Anyway.
Sorry, I'm a little tired.
Just screamed for an hour at this other show.
But anyway, the bottom lines, we'll do this again, and I hate to say it, I don't want to be right, but if something happens to him, remember, you heard it here first.
And watch what happens immediately thereafter.
It's just...
I've just put the link for Lionel's channel in the live chat.
It's in the description box.
Go over to Lionel Shelley.
Going live shortly.
That's right.
All right, brother.
You take care, my friend.
And to all of those who watched tonight, thank you very much.
All right.
Ta-ta.
Ta-ta.
Bye-bye.
Thank you for tuning in, everybody.
Lionel's links are in the description.
And some of you asked also in the chat earlier on about my book that was released today.
There it is.
Sit Down with Female Gangsters.
It's on Amazon UK and it's got the stories of 10 of my podcast guests, hard-hitting, including Linda Calvey, the Black Widow.
I know people were asking about that.
So let me let you guys know what's coming up.
So, Ron has got a big one tomorrow with Big Homie and Bev surviving the live podcast.
Saturday, 5pm UK, we've got Lee Harvey Oswald's best friend.
No, Minsk is not in Russia.
I was corrected.
I apologize.
He's in Minsk now, but he was with Oswald in Siberia, I believe.
And then Sunday night, ex-London Metropolitan cop John Wedger is back.
And then I think it's Tuesday night, we've got JFK conspiracy and the Secret Service.
And that's just a fraction of what we've got going on.
We're going to have loads.
Do we ever sleep?
I do need to get some sleep.
The only man Escobar was afraid of was Griselda Blanco.
I am speaking to Griselda Blanco's son, Michael Corleone Blanco, and I was really moved watching his story.
He's done a few podcasts, and I would love to get him on, actually.
He's a fascinating character, yeah.
She's got Griselda and her love story as well.
Alright, much love wherever you are in the world.
Stay healthy.
Avoid the things that they are contaminating our bodies with.
And let's try and survive and thrive when we are surrounded by these ever-present dangers.
So, back tomorrow.
See you all then.
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