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Feb. 6, 2025 - Lionel Nation
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Is CNN REALLY in BIG Trouble Now?
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I want to tell you about a network.
A network that is being destroyed.
A network and a way of thinking and an ideology that is falling apart at the seams.
That is the end.
It is at the end of its trajectory.
And it's critical that you know this right now.
So sit back and let me explain this to you.
Let me take you down this wonderful deep dive into the recent headlines and see if I can help you uncover what's really happening.
Why CNN are in big, big trouble and MSDNC.
You see, my friend, the media landscape right now, as we're talking about, is evolving.
It always has.
One of the most iconic news outlets ever.
This is the most incredible thing in the world.
CNN was at the pinnacle.
It was at the top of its game.
And it fell apart.
But I submit to you, my friends, why tonight's disquisition is so important is that it's not necessarily that CNN fell apart, but the way of thinking fell apart.
If you had, let's say, Motown and Tamla and...
All these R&B and soul music labels all collapsing.
You wouldn't say that the business model wasn't working.
You would say probably that soul music wasn't, which is ridiculous to believe this.
So when you say that CNN is facing significant challenges, it's the thinking that CNN is talking about, not just CNN.
And it makes its current struggles, I think, one of the most fascinating subjects of interest, at least for me and others too.
Because it's not that, again, that CNN is collapsing, it's that the ideology is collapsing.
And this ridiculous, this landscape of contemporary media, these legacy outlets cling desperately to relevance.
They are hanging on.
This is a billion-dollar business.
And they don't know what to do.
And the decline of CNN and MSDNC, I think, serves as instructional tutorials regarding the tale of not only overreach, but in perpetuating this ridiculous ideology that doesn't have any place anymore.
Nobody thinks like this.
And it's not merely that these networks are experiencing, you know, rough weather, some little turbulence here and there.
Oh, no, no, no.
It's that their self-inflicted wounds are deep, and their capacity for recovery and self-correction is a suspect, to say the least.
Meanwhile, Fox News, and I'm not a huge fan of Fox News, but it's a fact.
It surges ahead, buoyed and prompted and promoted by the fact of its clear sense of mission and its alignment.
With the prevailing conservative zeitgeist and what people in this country think.
They are connected with what Americans believe.
That's the story.
We're a different country now.
It's not just about different tastes.
It's not, well, I like this.
No!
It's this ideology.
It's shot.
The reason why nobody likes it, nobody wants to hear it, is that nobody believes it.
Oh, you've got a few people here and there.
But they're not even news-oriented.
January of last month marked the lowest-rated month in the history for both CNN Cheers and MSDNC.
In what demo?
Remember, demos matter.
In the 25 to 54 demographic or demo.
That's the gold one.
That's the stat that should be terrifying these people.
That's the money demo.
Not 65 plus.
A lot of these folks will say, we're number one.
75 plus.
When we used to have these old numbers, like 12 plus.
That means from 6th graders to death.
You want 25 to 54. Sometimes 3564, but 2554.
This demo is so vital to advertisers, given its substantial spending power, that if you don't have that number, you're dead.
But the numbers, the numbers speak volumes.
It's incredible.
CNN averaged a miserable, a miserable, a de minimis, a paltry, a horrible.
80,000 viewers during daytime programming.
80,000 and 118,000 during primetime.
118K.
MSDNZ, 45,000 viewers during the day and 63,000 at night.
By contrast, Fox News, Fox News, again, I'm not the biggest fan.
Doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter.
They enjoyed its best January on record.
Continuing, and listen to this, an astonishing 23-year reign.
23 years as the most watched cable news network ever.
Now again, cable news, still, you can qualify it all you want.
They're it.
They're a primetime lineup alone.
Did a lot of research on this, showed an average of two, almost three million viewers, nearly quadruple the combined totals of its CNN and MSDNC.
Why do you think they're failing?
Because the ideology is failing.
Because nobody believes in that.
Because this is about Trump and MAGA, but the reason why Trump did so well is that we embraced it.
He can say whatever he wants.
If nobody votes for him, it doesn't matter.
It's about us.
And the roots of this, I guess these number differences, it's not difficult to figure out.
Fox News, you can say whatever you want about Roger Ailes, but this guy was a genius.
And they've got their detractors.
I understand.
This is not about Fox News, but it's about the ideology.
And by the way, it's a lesson for a lot of people kind of in this new medium.
But they remain disciplined.
You always knew what you were going to get.
They never veered.
They said, this is what we do, and we're going to do it.
It's like McDonald's.
This is what we do.
The old days it was burger, fries, and shakes.
That's it.
It understands the audience.
It understands them.
It doesn't ever fool them.
They say, here is what we're going to do.
It never lets them down.
And what happens is, I disagree with some of the folks who will say, well, Fox doesn't get into sanctimonious moralizing.
Yeah, they do.
Yeah, they do.
But regarding things and ideas that people agree with, oh, they'll moralize all day long.
They'll do it.
But these folks have doubled down on this kind of progressive lunacy and anti-Trump rhetoric.
Fox embraced the broad Conservative, Republican condition.
It reflects it.
And that's what most people believe.
They're populists and they're traditionalists and libertarians.
And it's a formula that has worked from the beginning.
And they never understood this.
And the only way that Joe Biden and these people could ever get to the top is by stealing the election in 2020.
Does this surprise anybody?
Anybody?
Any of you folks surprised by this?
This is the most incredible thing I've ever seen in my life.
I don't get it.
I don't know what these people are kind of wondering about.
I don't know what they're so surprised about.
I really don't.
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
CNN is so...
Oh my God.
Remember these people?
They had some high...
Jim Acosta!
You can say whatever you want about Jim Acosta.
Jim Acosta was the face of CNN's combative coverage of President Trump.
Oh, they loved it.
Come on, Jim!
Give Trump!
Why, you!
And look where he is now.
He's done.
They gave him a copy of the home name.
They gave him the graveyard time slot, and they did this to appease President Trump.
They did it to humiliate Acosta.
They did that for Trump.
They gave that.
Scalp to President Trump.
His farewell, remember this one, included this plea of to hold on to the truth.
What kind of horseshit is this?
But the irony was also nobody.
Here is Acosta's brand of journalism, whatever the hell this was, more performance art than truth.
And he was emblematic and representative of CNN's pivot and veering away from substance.
To this stuff.
They kept saying, no, it's over with.
It's like being in an act.
It's like being in an act.
That's over with.
Does that make any sense to you?
I hope it does.
Freedom says you actually mean the Chinese news network, Lionel.
Traitors and liars, too.
America's freedom and real public of...
And the real republic of stating the actual facts of news.
Hear, hear, young man.
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Thank you so much.
Freedom Again says, Lionel, you need to chill, my friend.
I don't feel sorry for any of these networks.
They created their own fate by...
Turning on us and Trump, I don't give a flying flip.
Freedom.
I'm not saying that I care about these people.
I'm analyzing this.
This is an analytical commentary.
I'm saying the reason why I said it's not about...
I said this right from the first thing I said.
This was not about these people that I feel sorry for.
It's why.
It's what I said.
I said, if I told you that, let's say...
If Motown, the record label, were to collapse, it's not because the record label is not good.
It's because the music wasn't.
It would be a sign that Motown and R&B wasn't working.
That's what this is about.
I never said that.
I was absolutely clear.
And I thank you for your comments.
But no, this is not about feeling sorry for them.
No, no, I want them to go away.
I want you to understand that this also shows you that this verifies that the country has changed.
The country has changed.
The country is a completely different group of people.
That's what this is about.
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I never said, I never concerned myself or felt sorry for or lamented the decline and the collapse of CNN or anything.
I never, never said that.
Never, never, never thought that.
Never, never.
I'm finding right now that there are people, I think I told you this, it is a shift to how this country is changing.
And the reason why those particular ways, remember, the reason why That particular platform is not working.
Is it because they've changed?
It's because the country's changed.
We're a different group of people right now.
Do you remember Chris Wallace?
Remember this guy?
This is a guy, another big departure.
This is a fellow who cited a substantial pay cut.
First of all, they were going to cut him.
And then they were going to shift their priorities and all this kind of jazz.
This was a guy who once was, he was with Fox News, remember this?
And they lured him with the promise of editorial freedom and pretty good substantial salary.
And he found himself marginalized.
Remember that one?
Trying to redefine his identity.
But one of the best examples.
And again, let me just say this, my friends.
I'm not in any way.
Please do not think that I'm showing sympathy or I'm lamenting or I'm sad for...
Oh, no, no, no.
Look at this.
Her name is Pam.
Pam Bondi 0047.
There's Finding Dory.
That's very good.
Howie Brown, by the way, is a new member.
Howie Brown gifted five national memberships.
Thank you so much.
Freedom says, I love my Lionel Nation coffee cup.
Indeed.
Indeed.
Thank you so much for that.
But I just, I'm so in love with how people miss the boat and don't understand what's happening.
They just, but it's not, again, it's not them.
But Don Lemon was one of my favorites.
Don Lemons was along a fixture at the network.
This was a guy who was unceremoniously shown the door and given a copy of the home game.
After 17 years.
Do you know this?
17 years.
A move that Donnie Boy described as shocking, but to, I guess, outside observers, even rather inevitable.
Remember his on-air persona?
Remember that?
It became a liability.
It was ridiculous.
It was nuts.
And this is a reminder of how CNN's descent into partisan diatribes.
We're a different country right now.
We're a different country.
And I've got to tell you this story.
This is even more funny.
When people try, because I've always loved the media.
I've always loved it.
It was something that my whole life was...
Basically one form of media after another.
It was AM, then FM, and then there was cassette, and before there was A-track, and then albums, and then AM and FM, and then computers, and floppies, and dial-up modems, and Wi-Fi, and I've been throughout my entire existence enjoying one form of media after another.
So media has always been important to me.
And I love the way certain things come, certain things go.
I was watching one of these the other day, a great Playboy After Dark.
It's one of the best shows ever with Hugh Hefner interviewing Doug Engel from Iron Butterfly.
Bill Pierce, Kay Fabe, the woodchuck, has been a Lionel guy since O.J. Simpson.
Bill and I go way back from the days of WABC.
Bill's a good man.
Demented, to be sure.
Out of his tree, but makes him all the more spicy.
Put it that way.
But there's a fellow named Mark Thompson.
I don't know if you know who this guy is.
This is the network's new CEO.
This is one of the funniest things ever.
And this was a former head of both the BBC and the New York Times.
That's not too bad.
I mean, I think it's Sir Mark Thompson.
So Thompson was brought in to stabilize a ship that was not listening, but was sinking.
After this poor guy, Chris, licked.
Remember him?
Dear God!
That was one...
Those of us kind of in the know said, oh my lord.
It wasn't his fault really, but he just didn't know what he was doing.
We were at an event.
I'm not going to go into detail.
Anyway, he's a weird dude.
So here was a guy who was in charge of overseeing All these layouts.
Do you remember when CNN showed the first signs of this and they had failed ventures?
Remember CNN Plus?
Remember that one?
So Thompson comes in and his mandate was absolutely clear.
Cut costs, pivot to digital, and rehabilitate the brand.
Good luck.
Good luck.
But whether these efforts will...
Bear fruit, as they say, remains an open question.
I don't think so.
But anyway, that's what they're saying.
And the network's digital strategy, which included plans for a subscription-based lifestyle platform, you've got to be kidding, strikes people as this desperate, pathetic attempt to replicate the success of maybe the Times or whatever it is.
I mean, listen, paywalls are okay, but you better be worth it.
You better give them something.
People will pay for certain things because everything will be in a paywall eventually.
You've got to subsidize.
You've got to figure out a way to subsidize.
And whenever people do things to affect a particular delivery system, for example, the algorithms that you have found problematic, those...
That ultimately in yours, to our benefit later on, because of the fact that we, well, because we can't say certain things.
I can't say certain things because you've run into this particular problem.
And I think that those strictures are being lessened or weakened considerably.
Now, this just, again, kills me.
What is happening with these people?
What is happening?
How do they fix this thing?
CNN, this is my favorite.
This CNN Plus, a $100 million investment.
$100 million.
This is the most incredible thing.
This streaming service was shuttered and shut down a couple of weeks after it debuted.
After Warner Brothers' discovery took place.
I think that was Zaslav.
We didn't even give it a chance.
They said, this sucks.
They just shut it.
And the collapse revealed not only poor strategic planning, but also this fundamental misreading and misunderstanding of the audience.
It's that simple.
Cable news is dead.
Cable news is dead.
There's a sign to it.
It's dead.
And it's not really anybody's fault, but The whole mention of it.
You know, MSNBC or MSDNC, they decided they're going to drag out Rachel Maddow.
And Rachel Maddow, they thought she was the star.
She's not the star anymore.
This is what's so important.
She's not the star.
That way of thinking is not true anymore.
And now she's back to what, a five-night-a-week schedule?
In this bid to halt or to stop stanch the bleeding, so to speak?
Rachel Maddow, you've got to understand, Maddow was the marquee star.
She was box office.
She was.
She was it.
But they can no longer mask the whole broader structure.
And one of the reasons why, because she was very smart, very talented, very nice, and she's gay.
She was this kind of a...
Gay, but not scary lesbian.
Not...
Not Broderick Crawford, but oh, a little nice.
Women loved her at first.
I don't know about you.
I've got a girl crush.
I used to hear that all the time.
I've got a girl crush.
Over what?
What are you talking about?
Oh, nobody ever...
You don't get to know what men.
Oh, that Don Lemon.
You know, I got a guy crush.
That Don Lemon, I...
It was weird.
The whole thing, and I never really understood it.
But their 25 to 54 demographic declined by 41% in prime time.
Since the 24 election.
You would think that the people who lost would have some place to go to where they would say, you understand our plight.
They dropped 41% in their prime time.
This is since the election.
Since the election!
Where are they going?
Going here.
They're going to what?
This is one of the funniest things you've ever seen, ever.
Listen to this.
Did you ever hear about this?
I've got to tell you a couple of things.
Let me see.
One of my favorites.
There was this one piece which I found fascinating.
And I'm going to go through.
I made some notes.
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.
I want to tell you about this.
Did you ever hear about this place called Spin Company?
Spin Co, I guess?
Oversees MSDNC.
I have no idea.
You don't understand.
MSDNC is not NBC anymore.
They're just cut off.
They may be thrown out of 30 Rock.
They may be in Secaucus or Fort Lee for all we know.
Who knows?
But this spin co or something, this fellow Mark Lazarus who oversees it, said, you know, maybe we should incorporate more conservative voices into the network's program.
And they said, what are you talking about?
We'll look at Elliot, what's his name, Spencer, whatever it is.
Now, let me explain something.
Again, lest you think this is about me lamenting this.
It is important and critical for us to understand what it is that we believe in.
It's very, very simple.
Very, very simple.
Let me see if I can say this in a way that is the most important.
And the most important.
Okay.
Number one.
If I went and I said, alright, I'm going to start a channel.
I'm going to do something.
And the first thing, the very first thing, what do you think is the most important thing?
And by the way, you will learn about politics by answering this question.
What is the most important thing about putting any type of television, whether it's cable viewing, whether it's online viewing, whether it's a streaming platform, What's the number one thing?
The number one.
First and foremost.
And it's one of those things where it's so obvious, but people will always overthink it.
What's the most important thing in the world?
What do you think of this?
You're going to start?
You're going to start.
Okay.
We always do this.
Steve Conner says, broadcast the truth.
No.
No.
CNN says, well, that's the truth.
No.
Is your truth?
No.
That's good, though.
Like this.
Sadie says, audience, now we're getting somewhere.
You see, Sadie gets down to brass tacks.
See, Sadie I'd like to work with in a restaurant.
So if I had a restaurant say, Sadie, what do we need?
We need people.
There you go!
Not, we need a wonderful menu.
No, we need people!
Get to the basics.
What is it that we need?
We need people!
We need money.
We need people with money.
People with money will come back.
You need an audience.
Absolutely!
Now Steve's talking.
Now Steve says personalities.
Personalities.
Let me tell you something.
Out of all of the people that I like, whatever it is, go down the list.
I'm going to throw names out there.
Tucker.
Bet David.
Candace.
Jordan Peterson.
Glenn Beck.
Just go down.
Ben Shapiro.
Anybody.
Anybody.
You will never, ever, ever see anybody say, they're so boring.
You might say, I disagree with them.
That's okay.
They're just like, hello.
And sometimes people, even like Lex Friedman, who has the personality of a wet fart.
I think he died in 19, maybe in the early 90s and nobody told him.
But he shows her.
My God, you've got physicists and you've got all this.
But they're not boring.
Nobody is boring.
Now, you might say again, I don't like car shows.
Okay, fine.
It's not that it's boring.
It's not interesting to you.
So you've got to get somebody who is not boring.
Look at these people that Caitlin Collins or Rashid, Caitlin, whatever her name is.
I get her in the basketball.
You notice, by the way, the basketball player?
Now, What's her name?
Caitlin?
You know what I'm talking about.
Okay, they tried.
She came out.
She was everybody's favorite.
And then she came out with an anti-Trump stuff.
And then she was for Biden.
And that was it.
That was the end of it.
Now let me explain something.
I don't want to be...
But there's something that drives me crazy.
And I'm just going to say this.
And I'm going to tell you this.
I hate when somebody is lying about who they really are.
Whether it's their sexuality or whatever, it drives me crazy.
And especially when they throw a beard at you.
Here I am with my boyfriend.
Alright.
It's an insult to me.
Okay, it's an insult.
Let me go back to what I'm saying.
You better get people who aren't boring.
You can watch anybody on Fox News, for example, and they're not boring.
Each one's like, nah.
There isn't a day when I don't see Harris Faulkner, but I don't say, nah.
Jesse Waters, not boring.
I don't watch it.
It's not my cup of tea, but they're not boring.
You don't fall asleep during the five.
It's not one of those.
But you do for CNN, because these people aren't interesting.
Aaron Roberts, whatever, Aaron, oh my God.
That's number one.
Number two.
Let me see if I can explain this to you.
There are some things that we can agree with and some things that we can't.
First and foremost, when you've got the Beatles and you want to trash talk the Beatles, you're killing yourself.
When the Beatles...
I don't know if you remember this.
I was maybe, what, six, seven?
I kind of remember when they...
Maybe, I don't know when they started, 64, 63, 6 or 7. I remember at the time, just as a kid, being in elementary school, this is when you first heard about the Beatles.
The Beatles were the biggest thing anybody's ever seen.
Oh my God!
The Beatles are like this.
There's nothing like it.
There will never be anybody like it.
I'm sure Sinatrahan is all the...
Okay.
So if you came out and you talk mad about the Beatles, they will kill you.
They will say, we don't like you, we don't want to talk to you.
What are you, nuts?
These are the Beatles.
Well, I know, but they're basically a four-court.
No, they're the Beatles.
You could trash-talk Dylan, even the Stones.
Okay, Trump is the Beatles.
He's the Beatles.
They love him.
You can say about some...
I think...
I'll give an example with you.
You can talk about it.
I think the Gaza thing, where he wants to turn Gaza into...
What do they call it?
The Mara Gaza?
He wants to make it into some seaside resort?
Are you nuts?
Oh my god!
But that's okay.
That's okay.
I gotta tell you something.
That is nuts!
The souls, they live there!
Well, we've got to clear that up because, you know, after all, all that, you know, it's all bombed out because Israel bombed it out!
What are you talking about?
You're going to own Palestine?
You're going to own Gaza?
I'll just let that go.
That is so I hope, I hope, I hope Biden, oh my God, I hope Trump goes back and says, I'm just kidding.
We can't.
I just wanted to say it.
Because this is exactly what that crazy Jared Kushner said.
It's some beautiful, you know, oceanfront, ocean, this is like, the bodies, the souls, this is their home.
You blew up their home.
It's like going in and saying, we went into Hanoi, blew the hell out of it, and we're going to put up condos there.
What?
And we're going to go into Dresden, and we're going to go to Tokyo.
We're going to firebomb Tokyo.
We're going to take it out.
Everything.
More people died in fire from the Tokyo bombing than anything else because all the homes were wood.
And we're going to make, oh, we're going to have 15-minute cities.
It's kind of like what the radical left or what the globalist folks are doing to California.
I can't believe that one.
Okay, so what am I going to do?
Leave him?
I'm going to walk away from him?
No.
But it's like, you're nuts!
This is crazy!
You notice how Have you also noticed how Marco Rubio has really nothing to do with it?
He gets these other folks.
I'm not really familiar with all their names, but you know what I mean?
Marco Rubio's not doing this.
Marco's kind of like over here.
Okay.
Marco's just kind of following orders.
Okay.
Now, let me tell you something.
If I'm programming, Ready for this, my friends?
Americans don't give a shit about Palestine!
Sorry!
I know this is terrible.
I was watching some great, great pieces from Judge Knapp, and oh my god, it was Max, whatever his name is, Max, and this, and Aaron Monte, and Blumenthal, and just, I mean, just incredible, and Katie Halber, and this, and Mearsheimer, and nobody!
Who cares?
You don't understand in Europe.
Yes!
In Europe, you're right.
You are so right.
Then Yahoo brought out one of those pagers.
This is the sickest thing in Europe.
There were people who could have been on planes when pagers blew up and kids could have...
This is nuts!
This is crazy!
Beatles are like homemade ice cream and fresh apple pie, delicious and profoundly epic to our senses.
Yes, that is true.
Yet, believe it or not, I wasn't the biggest Beatles fan there was.
I liked Wings better, but that's me.
My point is the analogy.
Just like I did Freedom of the First thing.
It's an analogy.
It's not really a subject about the Beatles.
It's like if somebody came out and trash-talked The Beatles, at the height of their heyday, it would be almost suicidal.
Does that make any sense to you?
That's what that's about.
That's what that's about.
So if I do a show, if I say, if you think you're going to do a show today talking and blasting about Palestine and Gaza and the Nakba and...
The Balfour Declaration and the ICC, you are crazy.
Not that it's wrong.
Not that it's...
Nobody wants to hear that.
Nobody wants to hear that.
Americans don't care about that.
They want to hear about things like this.
T-E-I.
And they want to hear about CNN collapsing.
And they want to hear about how Pam Boddy walked in and stopped all the funny sanctuary cities.
And all this stuff.
They love that.
And they want to go USAID.
I don't even know what the hell that is.
I don't know what the hell.
Cut them down!
And get that AOC.
She's pissed off.
That's what we love.
That's what I'd program.
I would kill.
It's not the truth.
Do you think it's the truth?
Gee, I don't care about the truth.
I want to play the hits.
That's what I want to do.
I want to play the hits.
You don't want to talk about that stuff, do you?
Of course not.
How about Vince McMahon's wife in charge of education and the first thing I'm going to do is shut down education.
Imagine that.
What's her point?
Everybody's getting in.
Bobby Kennedy's going to be in.
He's putting his methylene blue in the water.
He doesn't know what the hell he's doing.
I love the guy.
I love the guy.
Don't you understand what this is?
Listen to what I'm saying to you.
It's very simple.
It's the people.
It's what people want to hear.
More of us hear this.
They love this stuff.
We went and we picked up a bunch of people from TDA.
We got it!
We got these illegals.
Yeah, buddy!
Yeah!
They love that.
Do you hear what I'm saying?
They don't want to hear about anything else.
They love this.
Let me explain this to you.
It's simple.
It's like, who is it, Susie?
You're right.
Get people in.
What do you want?
What do you want?
If I had a restaurant, I'm not going to feed them stuff I like.
Nobody's going to want that.
You're going to want that.
Pull pork and all that shit.
Which is great!
I want to make money!
I'm not worried about your health.
I want your cash.
I want to give you what you want.
Give me your money.
Give me your eyes.
Give me what's going on.
But I will not, not be boring.
And I may be completely full of shite.
I may be completely wrong with something.
But I will promise you this.
I do not think.
I do not think people ever fall asleep when I'm talking.
I don't think so.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe I've got this all wrong.
I'm not at all vainglorious.
I'm not at all hubristic, or heuristic for that matter.
But I do know this.
I'm not going to bore you.
You're not going to say, oh God.
He's not even...
I mean, people who don't even move?
No.
Yeah.
That's number one.
These people are boring.
They're boring.
Seeing an MSDN, seeing the whole bit, it's boring.
Do you see where Trump today signed a bill about...
Keeping men out of sports?
People want that!
They think men in sports is completely bullshit.
It's bullshit.
I'm sorry, that's a good word.
It's a good word.
It's not a bad word.
It's a good word.
It's a word everybody understands.
It means when something is not real or authentic, it's different.
It's different than horseshit.
We've been through this before.
It's the most versatile word there is.
I don't want to spend time on that right now.
But that's exactly what's going on.
He's getting right to the bottom of this.
It was two weeks Monday that he took office.
And these people, the left, they don't seem to get it.
They don't seem to get it.
There was a woman I was talking to who said, trust the science, Bobby Kennedy Jr.
Bobby Kennedy Jr.
Let me ask you a question.
Do you think, is there anyone here, I'm asking you a very simple question, who does not believe that vaccines have ever worked or that the process, the ways of it, forget mRNA, but just...
Process of immunization.
You get a dead cell, you get this half, you get something, and you introduce it.
It's dead.
It can't give you the thing.
But you respond to it.
Your body says, hey, that's the enemy!
And it responds.
And sometimes you get a little feverish.
Many times because of things that were wrong with it.
That reaction is not in and of itself.
It can be wrong.
But nobody that I know have ever said no.
No.
No.
Nobody has ever been immunized against anything.
Never.
Never.
When people have themselves have...
We've always said...
In fact, Marty...
Was it Marty McCarron?
Marty...
Marty McCarron?
Who said, people are themselves.
There's crowd...
Immunization or immunology where people in groups have had this, they've been exposed to it, and you build up a resistance to it.
It exists!
Nobody has ever been against the science.
Nobody has ever said no.
Nobody.
We believe in the science.
There's nobody, nobody, whoever says there is no such thing.
Alchemy?
No.
Phrenology?
No.
No.
A number of years ago they said chelations.
I'm not going to get into that.
Chiropractic?
I'm not going to get into that.
Some people have argued, well, is it effective?
I don't know.
But there is no one, ever, ever, who truly believes that this thing called Immunization and resistance and herd immunity.
We believed in herd immunity.
There's nobody who's ever done that.
I wish somebody would have told these idiots.
So when you talk about trusting the science, nobody's ever said that.
Nobody.
Nobody believes that.
Nobody believes that.
Now, what you think is a different story.
I believe in surgery, but I don't believe in all surgeries.
Like Bobby Kennedy said, I don't like mercury in fish, but I'm not against fish.
When Bobby Kennedy came out against thimerosal and all this other kind of stuff, let me also tell you, I think that one of these days we're going to find out that there were other concomitant reasons for exponential rises in autism other than vaccines.
Older people getting married.
Epigenetic aspects of it.
It wasn't all just that.
I'm sure it's contributed, but I do not believe it is the sole reason for that.
Never.
Never.
No, no, no, no, no.
But people would be foolish to say, it has no effect.
It's ridiculous.
Nobody's saying that.
Nobody is saying that.
But there are these people who looked upon this as a religion.
And I wanted to tell them, and they became part of the left.
I don't understand it.
The left used to be...
Yule Gibbons.
Do you remember Yule Gibbons?
No.
Remember that?
It tastes like a hickory nut.
Remember that?
It was a hickory nut.
It tastes like a pine nut or something.
It was for post-hickory whatever this is.
What the hell was it?
Remember Yule Gibbons?
Oh, this is in like the 70s.
Yule Gibbons.
Yes, he did.
Yule Theophilus Gibbons.
Grape nuts.
It tastes like a pine nut or it tastes like whatever it was.
Anyway, everybody loved this guy.
It was in the 70s.
Oh my God.
And then people who were themselves.
Remember when people would run?
And by the way, the people who liked the grape nuts were the lefties who went out and they hugged trees and they liked nature.
And they didn't like them.
They hated pollution.
And they didn't like anything.
They liked earth mothers.
Remember when earth mothers came along?
Remember when women were braless and they'd walk around like this, you know, and this.
And they were breastfeeding and they had axillary hirsute and they wouldn't shave their pits.
And they wore bandanas and they were earth mothers and they wore big...
You know, they're walking around with their babies and they, you know, I don't believe, I like diapers and cloth diapers.
I'm not going to put plastic anywhere in the left.
Okay, fine.
The same left all of a sudden loves vaccine.
Loves them.
Give me more.
Give me more.
Give me a booster.
You got a booster?
I'll take a booster.
I got a booster.
Can I vary?
I'll take it.
Three boosters.
They love it.
What happened?
And people that I know from the John Birch Society, by the way, were the first ones who fought against fluoride in the water, which now, which we're finding out there's a lot of reason for that.
Anyway, what happened to these people?
What happened?
They're on CNN fighting for magnitude.
That's the science!
I hate that Bobby Kennedy!
What's the matter with you?
What's the matter with you?
Whatever happened to the left?
Natural.
Natural.
Against processed food.
You want natural.
What do you know about red dye?
Give me my red dye.
I like red dye.
I want my red dye.
I want my vaccines.
I don't need you anymore.
You're the left.
I'm the left.
My God.
The left used to be the smoker.
What's the matter with these people?
It's the funniest thing in the world.
And a lot of younger people I know don't understand that there was a group called The Left.
And they were into the...
Remember the Woodwright shop?
It was a show years ago.
This guy who never even had...
He never had saws or anything electric.
It was wonderful.
The Woodwright shop.
And he made everything.
He made his nails.
And oh my god, it was the most incredible thing in the world.
And it was something too they cared about.
They cared about things, oh, I don't know, like in case it was disaster.
You know who were very good?
You know the Amish.
The Amish are terrific.
They're about as natural as you can.
Love these people.
Love these people.
And they were also very good in case of some type of inclement.
They knew how to handle things like bad weather and lean-tos and go out in the woods.
And they knew.
They knew about nature.
And the left doesn't know anything.
In fact, When people came out years ago and said, you know, I think maybe we should kind of prepare for some kind of, oh, come on, you're a prepper.
I'm a what?
You're a prepper.
You know, it's funny you should mention that.
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I'm here to give you the honest truth.
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No one's going to be there.
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Fabulous things about being from my generation is I remember being able to see so many transitions of things.
And you don't remember this.
But I do.
There was a time, my friend, when all of a sudden people decided they're going to run.
And the book of running, Jim Fix, it was that leg, remember it was on the front, and they had these shoes.
It was Adidas.
I think Adidas, Puma, but Adidas, Mitri Strippin, or whatever that was.
That was it.
And they had no support.
Nothing.
And you'd run.
They didn't have any stores at the mall.
You'd have maybe these funky shorts.
And this guy, Jim Fix, here's how you run.
Run?
You're going to run?
Yeah, why?
Because it's good for you.
It is?
And then they did it.
And I remember when I was in high school, when Stay Hungry and, oh God, Stay Hungry, I guess, What was the other one too?
It was when Joe Weider and Schwarzenegger were the other one too.
All of a sudden, people went to gyms.
Gyms, nobody went to a gym.
A gym was where you went boxing.
They had Vic Tanney or maybe Jack LaLanne.
But it was like nobody went.
It was all boxing and some guy with a...
And then...
But I remember seeing that.
It was the most incredible thing I've ever seen in my life.
It's the most incredible thing I've ever seen.
I saw it come from nowhere.
And then all of a sudden, I remember when...
Maybe you remember this as well.
Remember when martial arts...
There was a little judo.
And maybe there was...
I don't know.
Taekwondo was nice.
Maybe...
Tiger, what's his name?
It was weird.
Nobody really did it, sort of.
And then, UFC choking people out, jiu-jitsu.
It is the most phenomenal thing I've ever seen in my life.
And the thing that you must do if you want to be a sapient American, if you want to be cognizant, if you want to know what's going on, you must understand how this works.
And you must understand that you must pay attention.
Ask yourself, why did Trump, what does he do?
You'll be able to say, I remember when Biden hit.
I remember the four years.
What led up to him, right with Trump, it was the worst period to be an American.
It was the worst time.
Of course, it was the worst.
Pay attention, dear friends.
Pay close attention.
Be observant.
Speak less.
Watch more.
Analyze more.
Notice trends.
Notice what's happening.
Notice what we're seeing.
Notice how a friend of mine told me, it's very interesting, that younger people that she works with are liking things like golden girls, friends, things that speak to a time when folks were, oh, I don't know what the word is, but just a different time where things were roomy and fun.
It was just friends.
The show, friends.
People are looking at that.
That's just great.
They don't have friends today.
Do you hear what I'm saying?
Look what America's after.
All of that pours over into politics.
Everything does.
That's all I have to say.
You've been terrific.
You've been terrific.
Nelson A., by the way, gifted five Lionel Nation memberships.
God bless you.
Freedom, I thank you so much.
Bill Peace, Pierce, rather, Kay Faye, brother.
Howie Brown, you've got a lovely daughter.
Finding Dory, thank you so much.
Freedom, that's just some people talking.
Bailey, you're tremendous.
Thank you for that.
And I want to say this again to you.
I don't think people get this.
And I know you do.
I shouldn't say that.
I don't think people do.
I love paying attention to everything that's happening.
I love seeing everything.
I love to learn everything.
I love to pay attention.
I love trends.
Years ago, this friend of mine, who is no longer with us, because he's dead.
I like when they say, he's no longer with us.
I don't know.
He just dematerialized one day.
I don't know where he went.
He's just no longer with us.
But anyway, but he noticed something.
He said, I want you to notice.
How many people are into making pickles, pickling and canning?
These young people.
I told you this wonderful Amish woman who was just terrific.
She's fantastic.
This Amish gal.
And I just...
And she's...
It's wonderful.
Another thing which is fascinating to note, in the old days, when you wanted, if you had, we always say, you know, we should have something called home ec, where boys and girls should know how to cook.
But now you can do it online.
Anything you want to know.
Anything you want to know.
I know somebody who can't cook anything, never cared about anything, but all of a sudden somebody said, discovered the air fryer and her life changed.
Be very careful of the chemicals that leach.
But it doesn't matter.
The point is, We are going through, this is such a time, this should be a time when we are exploring more and more of who we are instead of this strange kind of behavior.
In any event, thank you.
Thank you, dear friends.
Have a wonderful and safe night.
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