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Jan. 14, 2025 - Lionel Nation
01:18:49
Who's Fault: Bass or Newsom? Who Started the LA Fires? Who's to Blame? Didn't They Know This?
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Well, my friends, let me just tell you who my guest, my interview subject is, and then I'll tell you the real story.
His name is Kerry Harrison.
And Kerry Harrison is the award-winning host of Public Radio's smash Rethinking Heroes, Friday mornings.
In, of all places, Los Angeles, and Carey's received the best commentary from the Associated Press and was honored by the UN for his environmental and peace work, and as a Mayflower descendant, one of the originals, so to speak.
We can't say go back, I guess unless you're Native American.
He is soon releasing the unhinged book, A MAGA History of the United States, which I think is going to be terrific.
By the way, you are also known for your one-woman play called Elena Verdugo, We Hardly Knew Ye.
Yes, yes.
And the McCutcheon sisters.
Back to the salt mines.
Anyway, my dear friend, thank you.
A couple of things.
I was calculating we have known each other approximately 36 years.
Thereabouts.
Because I started In 88, kind of on weekends with WFLA and Tampa, and that's when we kind of just, we bonded, and you have been my brother ever since, my friend.
Identical twin, by the way.
Yes, fraternally speaking.
Now, tell us, let's just get into it.
Los Angeles, what is happening?
Give us your perspective, dear friend.
Who would have ever thought that America's second largest city would catch fire?
So for me, it's been, you know, immolation or drowning.
I'm either in Florida, dealing back-to-back four or five category, you know, five hurricanes, or in L.A., where you've got four simultaneous fires encircling this large city.
It's the media capital of Earth, once again being viewed, but not for the swimming pools and movie stars.
It's the fleeing.
Movie stars from their fiery swimming pools.
And to lose like a chunk, the Pacific Palisades, which would be equivalent to in anybody's town is maybe the rich area, but to have all of that completely gone and then other areas.
So the air quality, which has sucked even on a good Tuesday, is so bad right now that it just will melt the skin off your face.
So imagine.
Hundreds of thousands of things on fire.
That includes houses, trees, fire hydrants, it turns out, can catch fire.
Who knew?
All of people's electronics, all of it going up in spoke, and then stuck in a giant fishbowl, which is L.A. It's a big sort of a bowl.
And you're breathing this stuff 24-7.
It never escapes.
So the wound is much deeper than the potential flames coming at you.
It's just the air you breathe.
That is today's L.A., still ongoing six days later.
Is there anything suspicious about it as far as you're concerned?
Anything that makes you say, hmm?
Well, all of it makes me say, hmm.
There are satellite images that do show the four fires starting simultaneously, as fires often do without lightning or other things.
How true is that?
We don't know.
That needs to be looked at by eyes way above my pay grade.
We do know that a good amount of money is being spent right now on arsonists.
Apparently there is more than one.
It's typical in L.A. where you have people that are just pissed off all the time about pretty much everything.
It could have been a charcoal briquette in somebody's Weber grill.
Falling out and the cinders hit the eucalyptus or the chaparral trees.
Boom, up it goes.
Or it could be some a-hole smoking a meth pipe and tossing it in the bushes.
Or...
I know.
Come on.
Look, I'm not saying what causes fire.
That's great for a barbecue, for a home.
Somebody fell asleep.
All I'm saying is that...
Please tell me this before we get to this.
Let's assume here is the globe.
And let's assume we have one of...
Was that a serendipitous moment?
Do you just happen to have one there?
I just happen to have one.
We are the world.
We are the children.
But assume that there's one of the myriad satellites flying about.
And somebody would say, I want you to train this thing on this particular...
Post-it stamp, not even at a corner of this area of California, LA.
And if you see a wisp of anything, if your thermoreceptors notice any kind of weird conflagration pattern or anything, immediately we get on the phone, or maybe drones, maybe all the rich people could have drones flying, and then all of a sudden they take one of these tankers or one of these things that drops sand, water, retardant, I don't know if you can still say that, on the area before it gets to the point.
Because here's the thing.
If we were to be in the driest area of whatever it is, we had a blowtorch or something, we started it, and we stepped back, how long would it be before Encino gets it?
Or it'd take an hour.
It takes an hour.
It's got to kind of start.
And then there's the Santa Ana winds.
Hurricane-like winds.
Without the water.
Huh?
Without the water, the benefit of moisture.
But I don't want to get into that because what do I know?
And I'm also wondering about perhaps there's all kinds of interesting geoengineering patterns, which I know nothing.
There is so much.
And I also wonder, before we get to the specifics of this, I was reading about your fair city, and there's this wonderful program.
They wanted to turn, it's called Smart LA28.
Which, from around 2020, your mayor then, Garcetti, was planning on this.
Then there's, of course, Agenda 21, Agenda 2030, the C40 Cities Initiative, UN and globalist goals of restructuring cities to address, quote, manufactured climate change, in my book, then to have all of these programs to make that you've always wanted to make.
L.A. and the area are bikeable and walkable, two- to three-story little dense little areas above, all this great digital trolleys.
Well, we couldn't do that before because, hey, nobody wanted to move.
Nobody's like, that's great, someplace else.
No, no, Bel Air.
No, no, Redondo Beach, Zuma Beach.
No, no, no, we want that.
Couldn't do that.
Well, now, Kerry.
All of a sudden, lo and behold, can I say fire sale?
Can I say all of a sudden they're going to start from scratch in the very area that was targeted by some of these for transformation into these cities of the future?
I'm just saying.
Coincidence?
Maybe?
Well, it's very interesting you say that, Lionel, because you're...
Right on the pulse of things that seem to be unfolding and obvious to many.
Rick Caruso, who's the developer of the city in the Pacific Palisades, which is this very formerly very exclusive area.
The only part that seems to be untouched is what's called Caruso City, which is the downtown shopping area, somehow completely untouched.
For him, much like Dick Cheney after Hurricane Katrina, Got a no-bid contract for Halliburton to rebuild much of the Gulf Coast with beautiful hotels and lots of really taking a run down many miles of crap and turning it into swanky, which it is today.
This guy will also have first dibs in rebuilding one of the most expensive cities.
And he's talked about it.
And so that's a little embarrassing if you're not in L.A. If you're in L.A., it's just called a normal day.
Like, instead of asking your name, it's what do you do?
So it's kind of vulgar.
But this is exactly what's happening.
So we're going to see a lot of rebuilding and reconstruction.
Based on that, I don't know.
Going back to a famous movie that a lot of people have seen, Chinatown.
Yeah.
We all remember Chinatown.
Chinatown was interesting because it was based on the L.A. of the 1920s, which had the finest public transportation on the planet.
Trolleys going down every street.
You could take a light rail from downtown L.A. to the ocean in 20 minutes for a nickel.
The entire city was wired.
There are rails are still there.
They're all under the tarmac.
Trying to be re-exposed to this crap that it cannot be done.
No one wants to move.
They all want to move.
Trust me.
In the 1950s and 60s and late 40s, before the Vietnam War, and what was the Vietnam War all about?
As we all know, rubber and tin.
Not commies.
America's rubber for rubber tires for every metallic automobile.
Firestone.
It came from Vietnam, and so we needed a lot more rubber to be able to create suburbia.
So the car industries paid off the city council.
May I say, in my life, sir, I have heard Vietnam attributed to a lot of things, but rubber and gin might be the first time I've ever heard that.
And it was the first time I'd heard it, too, from a State Department individual who had worked for the Reagan administration.
And if you want to get great history...
Hang out on cruise ships with Mildred, because the speakers that they bring on there are retired State Department guys, and they can't wait to do the tell-all with a live audience.
And I did a one-on-one with this guy and really kind of pushed him to reveal what he knew.
Again, this is his part, but it was all about the money, the money, the money, the profit, who was paying for it.
You know, my friend Gerald Salenti one time said, what do you think would have been the chances of our invading Iraq if their main export was broccoli?
Foreign is, which is a very good point.
Now, just a little background.
You and I started, well, anyway, but I did in the radio biz when radio was, and we had, we're both alumni of, I think at the time, one of the greatest stations, WFLA.
In the days of Randy Michaels, when it was so cutting edge, you did a show called FLA Lounge, which nobody understood.
It was so mondo.
It was unreal.
You later on went to local public access, and again, we're a cross between John Waters and...
Antonioni or something.
It was wild.
So you and I went back into that.
We remember when talk radio and radio really was cutting edge, obviously before internet, social media, where we had almost a doody.
And if something happened, if something hit the fan, if the adjuster hit the fan, we were there.
What is it like now in LA in terms of Media, radio, the chance for maybe a talk radio, Kerry, to come back and to gain its relevance again.
What is it right now?
The airwaves must be melting, no pun intended, with just fiery rhetoric and discussion regarding the most important issue, certainly not only in this country, but maybe in parts of the world.
Tell me.
Tell me.
Well, yes.
So commercial talk radio is doing that.
The one that's absent from that game is non-commercial radio or public radio, which is woefully absent in this discussion, still playing syndicated programming, or as the station that I'm associated with said, well, we're playing Bob Marley and some relaxing, easy favorites.
I said, what?
What?
Everyone is dying!
You've got...
14 million people on the freeways fleeing for their lives, and you're playing relaxing, easy, yes, it's soothing.
Even people at the very station that is playing the relaxing music, they're fleeing!
They're fleeing.
So in the back of their mind, they're hearing one love, you know, as they jump into their Subaru and take off.
I mean, imagine if you're being waterboarded and somebody starts to play Montevani.
Do you feel better?
Is your breathing improved?
It is such an irrelevance.
Wow!
That is good.
Lee Connitz, I was jumping to that one.
Now, one thing we must say, in the years that we have been brothers, identical twins, by the way, despite what people think, it was the weirdest thing.
It was a reverse Zarian.
You and I have enjoyed a core understanding.
And every now and then, you and I might have particular ideological, political events, music, diet, food.
They're like satellite to the core, to our mutual planet.
And much of us, much of what we discuss, I think, has nothing to do with politics.
Just kind of common sense.
Disaster.
Helping people, living life, war.
We are spot on.
Is it not safe to say that there's really...
Does this issue lend itself to real politicization?
Really?
Is this really a left-right, blue-red thing?
Because I gotta be honest, I understand whatever people think about DEI, whatever they think about these Karen types, The lesbian brigades or whatever it is.
I don't think that's the reason why.
I mean, that may be a separate issue.
I want it to be true, but it's not.
This woman, they're all named Christine.
And do they drive Subarus?
What's with Subarus?
Have you heard this?
Well, I can tell you.
It's actually legitimate.
Once upon a time.
I helped start the Gay Channel on SiriusX.
Wait a minute, what?
You what?
You're not...
Wait a minute.
No, I'm not admitting it anymore.
But I did back then.
During the Bush administration, it was less hostile.
I don't know why.
And we had a major sponsor, Subaru.
And like, who's driving Subarus in 2002?
Nobody except Dykes.
And they liked them because they were kind of ugly.
I don't know.
Whatever they were, they looked like...
You're using that term, by the way, in the classic, just like queer is okay now.
You're using it, obviously, not as a pejorative.
Obviously, that is a term of art.
I'm using it in reference to a dam in Holland.
I'm not sure what you're talking about.
Right.
right you you All that to say, Subaru jumps in and says, we want to sponsor you.
And it's like, why not Ford?
Why not a Plymouth?
You know, Subaru.
And by God, they were selling them.
And they were selling them to lesbians who liked the look of a Subaru.
They were kind of military, whatever, whatever the look was, maybe the price point.
I have no idea.
But that's how Subaru became friendly to that population and still has the hangover known for being appealing to a lot of people.
I would not drive one.
I don't know why, but it's never occurred.
Subaru.
That's what I need.
It's one of those things.
Like, not Kia, but not even Hugo, but it's one of those ones.
But in any event, but I thought to myself, okay, look, DEI, we can say whatever we want.
That's a valid argument.
I don't think DEI was responsible for this.
There is something that is strange.
What is the reaction?
Take me to what California and, by the way, Angelinos.
Karen Bass uses the word Angelino like she just...
Discovered it.
Hello, Angelenos.
You know, hello.
All she needs is this.
But what do Los Angeles residents and Californians think about Gavin Newsom?
Tell us what they think, all this stuff aside.
It's a many-layered question.
So we'll get to Gavin Newsom in just a second.
Los Angeles is unique in that.
Of every city in America, we all know who the mayor of New York is.
We know who the mayor of Chicago is.
We even know who the mayor of Miami is.
Does anyone before five days ago, did they know who the mayor of Los Angeles was?
No.
Do they know anybody on the city council?
No.
It is one of the most corrupt cities that has ever existed.
With a local county budget of $20 billion, which has nothing to do with the other hundreds of millions and other billions sloshing around with a nameless mayor and a nameless city council.
No redress to your government, no town hall, no center, anything.
So it really is this kind of invisible creature that gets away with whatever it does, including complete lack of infrastructure to handle a natural disaster.
Save an earthquake.
But then that's reactive and not proactive, except that you require everyone to build with wood, which they did by the tens of millions.
And guess what this fire likes to eat?
Surprise!
So, it's a mess because people don't care enough about their own government and civics to even know who their mayor is.
So that's on the people of Los Angeles.
Who you can live next to your neighbor for 10 years, never know their name.
I don't know if that was Steve Martin originally in a movie, but it's just absolutely true.
And your value is what you do for a living or what you claim to do for a living, more importantly.
What you drive because you live in a car for six, seven hours a day on 10 lanes going two miles an hour in a Porsche.
Which is kind of sexy to the person next to you who will never meet you, doesn't know your name, but maybe they know the casting director on your way to an audition.
So that's the framework of the culture there.
Newsom is pretty well-liked because he seems to be playing fair for most people.
What he has that other politicians don't have is he's got gigantic...
Scrotum is bulbous.
He's got elephantine.
Yes.
And so he'll say what he says.
He'll say what he thinks.
He stands with conviction and says it.
That works, whether you're Mayor Daley of Chicago, young or old, whether you're this, that, or the other person.
If you say something with a clear eye and conviction, most people go along because they don't know differently.
And while Newsom, the governor of California, doesn't have a tenth of the power of, say, Ron DeSantis of Florida, whose governorship is much like being the governor of the Bahamas, which is, I say so, and therefore it is, and the legislature rubber stamps it.
In California, it has to go through multiple assemblies.
It may or may not get passed.
But Newsom is good at taking credit.
He's good at putting in a little hair gel, looking handsome and being articulate.
And who knew?
Those three things.
It works in a state of 40 million people and the sixth largest economy of Earth.
I heard, but it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
He is a part of this conglomerate of the Browns, the D 'Alessandros, who is Pelosi, the Pelosi's himself, the Newsom's, but also Getty.
The Balthazar Getty and the Gettys who own, not own him, but got him started in the restaurant business.
And then when Gavin's father was the lawyer, I mean, it's not incestuous.
It's almost, you know those pictures of ants that congeal and they float across?
That's what this group is.
They're like these congealed ants.
Yeah, we used to call it nepotism, but that word has gone out of fashion.
Nepo babies, right?
Okay, well, this is different, but this is a mafia.
This is completely nothing to do with the East Coast, and I would have bet, and maybe still, he was 2028.
That's why he wanted to back off from Guatemala as far as he could, because he could have, if Donald Trump had run against him, And not Harris?
It would have been, maybe not a different result, but it would have been a fight.
He's good.
People may hate him.
He went to the French Laundry.
Nobody cares about that.
He can look you in the eye, and he knows the drill.
He knows what to say.
You would never get him at an airport with some Sky reporter saying, Excuse me, Mr. Nelson?
Can you tell me?
In your face?
He would have said, I'll tell you exactly what I'm going to do.
I'm going to come back.
We're going to help these people.
Did you see this bass?
By the way, this, please, you can't write this, this Marxist fidelista.
I mean, she has all of these, you know, she's a part of these, I say she's a Marxist per se, but she has all of the padding and the curriculum vitae of the classic prototypical.
Lefty Fox News target.
And she's standing there saying nothing.
And then you bring out this battalion of sapphic warriors with this one dimwit.
These dunskis who walk out there with this one woman who says, I'll tell you what, yeah, if I gotta go in there, can I pick up your husband?
Well, the question is, if your husband calls me, shouldn't have been there in the first place.
Now that's the spirit I want, blaming the victim.
You know, as this Bronco Nagurski sitting there, you know, with a bad haircut, looks at me and she's basically...
Anyway, so that aside, that aside, this is going to change a lot of stuff.
Next question, will the Olympics in 28 go through?
Because that's what they want.
Yes.
And it will be a new and improved Los Angeles, by the way.
There'll be a choo-choo train that'll go all the way from the airport to fill in the blank.
Something that, conspicuously missing for 80 years, has been any possible way to get to the airport in fewer than three hours in America's second largest city.
That will be resolved.
A lot of this, like you said, not in my backyard.
Beverly Hills was notorious for blocking the subway.
That was supposed to go from Hollywood all the way down to the Pacific Ocean.
Hollywood is not a real place, but it is a real place.
It's not the place that you think it is on TV where Tom Cruise allegedly is eating at an outdoor cafe.
There is not one.
And you would not ever want to eat outdoors in Hollywood because you will lose your wallet in less than 10 seconds or be stabbed.
Right.
By the by, how long did you, are you currently a resident of that fair city?
I am, yeah, I'm both.
I'm by.
Oh, now I'll say it.
You're a Subaru.
I'm hedging it.
I'm hedging it, you see.
And you used to be quadrosexual.
You'd do anything for a quarter.
And then I was trisexual where I'd try anything.
Right, exactly.
Now, the crime, the area, the most beautiful city that people have always said, used to say, almost reflexively, in a kind of a patellar reflex, was San Francisco.
San Francisco.
We're seeing things right now.
It's not dystopian.
I don't know what it is.
Philadelphia might be closer.
They have a place called Kensington, which is kind of their little enclave of this.
I don't know what happened to that.
But what happened to L.A.?
What is it like?
Is the crime as bad as they say, the homelessness, the human detritus, the flatsom and jetsom of humanity, as is portrayed?
Yeah, it is.
Now, let me just also say, I have a love-hate relationship with L.A., as do most people that live there.
You love it, but you know it could be a thousand times better.
Why is it not better?
Because the sitting government chooses not to make it better.
If you had a plebiscite where the entire city votes, thumbs up, thumbs down, clean water, clean air, good schools.
Light rail everywhere, don't have to drive nine hours to go three blocks.
Yes or no, it's yes.
But the fact is, that never happens.
And so the reason you have the largest amount of homeless people per capita in the world, we're not talking about climate displacement or something like Syria, where all of that began.
We're talking purposeful.
In other words, you have 140,000 homeless people, 25% of which, Our veterans.
Yes, these are people that came back from fighting.
They're trained killers.
They are forced to live on the street, and they're desperate.
And you don't do anything for them.
Why?
Because you're going to have to divert some of that money.
And so you end up with Skid Row.
One of the original Skid Rows is in L.A. I think the first one was in Portland.
But this is mental illness, too.
It's mental illness.
There used to be an era, and you'll remember when we were kids, I don't know if you can call them this anymore.
Well, they don't exist.
You can.
Insane asylums.
Yes!
That's how we met initially.
And that's what advanced cultures do, is that when people have chronic and acute mental illness and are not able to care for self or others, They become a ward of the state.
It's funny you say that.
We did this.
We had here in New York this famous Bellevue, Creedmoor, where they would take people who were a threat to themselves or others in Florida.
I think they still call it the Baker Act.
And they would take people in and they would say, we're going to keep you here.
Not under jail, but for your good and for their good.
And it was called the institutionalization of the mentally ill.
The warehousing.
And I don't know if it was post-Reagan, but a lot of people said, wait a minute, that warehousing you say was actually very, very good, believe it or not.
I mean, not always.
Please, there's always abuses.
But the idea of that, let's let them go.
Let's just say, you know, we'll have talk therapy here.
Come on, Jerry.
Have a good day.
We'll talk to you.
Come back for your Thorazine or whatever it is.
And the best part about it is that one of the mainstays or one of the characteristics of schizophrenia...
This paranoia is that the government is trying to control me, and what is the thing that they're giving me to control me is this drug that makes me sluggish.
It gives me what they call the Thorazine Shuffle.
I'm not going to take it.
You're trying to kill me.
You want me to take a pill, and you see where this thing goes.
I've seen it in the criminal justice system.
It's a horrible problem.
So we throw them in, and what do we call them?
Homeless.
That is a symptom.
They're also sometimes shoeless or toothless and sometimes hopeless.
And this is sad.
And I don't want to reject them.
I don't want to toss them aside.
But this is not a housing issue.
Sometimes it is.
But it's more complicated than that.
If I may dip a big toe or maybe just a small toe in the...
Is it the Pollux or the Hallux?
I always get those confused.
The Hallux rigidus, which it is today.
So, back in the Reagan era, one of the new tricks that hadn't been done before, it was always considered vulgar to bring religion into politics.
Not to mention that it's just an established spirit of our Constitution that we keep these things separate.
But it turns out that one Donald Rumsfeld, a name whom we've known to grow in love over the years, Was CEO of G.D. Searle.
And one of the things they were manufacturing was the first...
Aspartame.
Yes.
That too.
There's a whole show right there.
We'll do that one later.
Yeah, we'll do that one later.
But this was the first antidepressant that could be publicly distributed.
And there was a trade-off.
What was it?
I'm sorry.
What was the first?
There was a trade-off with the Reagan administration that...
They could release this antidepressant on the marketplace, close down all of the mental health asylums, call them what you will, and in return hand anybody with mental illness a handful of antidepressants.
What was the antidepressant?
It was the first one that everyone in the 80s was talking about.
Prozac?
Prozac!
Prozac.
That's the one.
So this is the precursor to Cymbalta, the precursor to all the other ones that are usual and frequent today.
Now, I'm sorry, but being an SSRI, the selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors that deal with depression, antidepressant things, this has nothing to do with psychosis.
No, it's basically throwing a very wet blanket over the brain, which will put out a tiny fire somewhere near the malleus bone, in your inner cochlea.
Yeah, and we hope, we hope, I mean, more often than not, it tends to dull people down.
They can't have erections.
They're not interested in much stuff.
Perfect outcome.
So as long as people are compliant on these medications, they're really not a hassle.
And so what if they live on the manhole or under it?
It doesn't really matter.
And isn't it funny?
You seem to be a bit prescient and vatic and, dare I say, pythonic, good sir, because it sounds familiar at another time of our history where...
We had a thing called Biomedical Martial Law where somebody came in and said, we're going to handle this particular problem with this problem.
And even though the two have nothing to do with each other, we will do what we say and we will give you adhesive stickers to put into stores.
You will walk in one particular way and you will wear a particular face garment to symbolize your mindless adherence to this.
But I digress.
You don't.
You're exactly right.
It's like General Electric running the mammogram machines and then also in a sister company creating tamoxifil and other things to treat breast cancer.
So while you irradiate the breast tissue, 10 years later, 20 years later, you've got something at least to treat the symptoms.
So it's a giant ball of money.
And with this...
The pharmaceutical companies got their first real leg up in American culture.
It would be years later we would start seeing pharmaceutical advertising.
And that's one of the things that Bobby Kennedy Jr., to his credit, is trying to say.
You know, it's funny you say that.
I would oftentimes...
Remember when we were...
Because we are identical in terms of our cultural development.
All of a sudden on TV, ask your doctor if...
Sminoxedir is perfect for you.
And they wouldn't tell you what it is.
You would see this interracial couple jogging.
Sminoxedir.
What is it?
Hello, doctor?
Yeah.
Sminoxedir.
Can I try it?
Who is this?
It's Carrie Harrison.
Why are you calling me?
I was watching a commercial and it said it's an estrogen replacement.
Oh.
Remember they had open MRIs.
Remember in the Jersey Turnpike they had big ads for open MRIs.
Why are you telling me this?
Tell the doctors.
I don't go there for fun.
Why is medical equipment and medical, you know, pharmacopoeia, whatever you call it, why is this being commercialized?
Why are you telling the customer about these highly complex, you know, chemical compounds, covalent bonds that are so out there?
What am I supposed to do with this?
But the death part are the disclaimers.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Where you have the beautiful music, you have the voiceover, you know, and live a life you've never imagined before.
Now you can breathe again.
May cause death, diarrhea, your foreskin will grow back.
It goes on for 20 minutes.
It's like, oh, my God, if I get even within a mile of this, yes, you will die, but it will extend your life.
Let me think about that.
Wait a minute.
This was the best.
Hold it.
The best one, the best one ever was, this is when, before the internet, it was called Olestra.
It was a non-absorbable fat.
Well, remember, Olestra, it was the fat-free potato chips.
Right, loose stools.
The FBI concluded that Olestra...
I did a whole show on the FLA Lounge on what is a loose stool call in lightness.
Not just stools.
Stools enough.
But all of a sudden, hello, I'm Kerry Harrison.
For years I've tried to find a...
I don't know, a support group to help me with my friends.
It's not funny.
Remember National Lampoon years ago, terminal flatulence, TF.
It's nothing to sniff at.
One of the signs of TF, remember that?
One was unaccountable pet deaths, burnt foliage, and unaccountable.
Planes falling from the sky.
Cleaning lady quits.
They would have a picture of a stall with the porcelain shattered.
Like they put a C4 grid.
Then they had this one kid.
He's the center of a football team.
He's bent over.
And the quarterback has this look, this quizzical...
Anyway, of course it's a cheap joke, but they actually put out Olestra.
You really better want to have that Lay's potato chip.
And as you're walking around in undergarments, ready for it to hit, but by God.
There was Olene, too, which was fake butter made out of Olestra so that you could slather.
Your English muffin with that much fake butter on it and not gain a pound because it coats the intestines with a sort of gelatinous mucus that allows all the regular food to slide through and right out your rectum.
So you don't gain a pound.
There was a...
I'm trying to find this.
There was some kind of...
Is it Alzheimer's?
Alzheimer's or something.
And this is the best part.
I like the disjointed.
It's more than you have one.
Loose stools.
Okay.
But, loose stools and a fetish for cardigan.
What?
It was always like this.
What?
This one was...
One was...
Oh, a gambling?
Compulsive gambling?
And I think a hypersexuality or something.
It was for...
It was a side effect.
And as you know, and how we got onto this, this is our nature.
I'm sorry, but...
As you must list first the most prevalent and frequent of the side effects.
And they fight for it.
Remember all of the antidepressants that had self-harm or the M-word as a side effect to an antidepressant.
So they fought for that.
Not only that.
ED is one of the unfortunate chronic conditions that people do get with antidepressants.
If that doesn't depress you and your partner, nothing will.
Think about a man, for better or for worse, is tied to his ability.
And if you take that away, what's left?
Which makes him depressed.
I mean, you can see this.
But anyway.
See, this was magic.
How we went from...
Yes, it was good.
From Beverly Hills Subways.
To loose stools.
I don't know.
It's a gift.
It's a gift.
You know, it's like riffing.
You know, Jocko Pistorius played the bass.
We play this stuff.
In any event...
When you talk to your...
And by the way, before I forget, what is Rethinking Heroes?
I love this concept.
Explain this and tell folks how they can hear this.
So, very much like you, whatever they say is good, I do the opposite.
So, I came up with a show where instead of celebrating the usual and customary Anderson Cooper-flavored heroes, which I never understood, like CNN's Heroes Night, and they bring on little Timmy.
Who could hit a baseball 60 miles?
That's great.
I bring on anti-heroes.
I bring on disruptors, muckrakers, people who will tell the truth about history, people who know where the bodies are buried.
Those are the real heroes to me.
They are brave.
For example?
For example.
For example, I've brought on you in the past many times.
We've talked about the legal action.
Yes, the legal implications of things that are going on where if I bring on Professor blah, blah, blah from New York University, I'm going to get the same thing I'm going to get from UCLA.
But you're able to see, to pierce the veil of mainstream thinking and go beneath and see what's really going on.
So I love bringing these guys on.
I like bringing on people who didn't win the Nobel Prize, but they got nominated, but they got knocked out.
Why?
Because they were about...
To say, and we can't have that.
And there is so much in our regular history.
And you and I used to play with this a little bit back in the 90s.
And then it has now become your main staple and your expertise.
But who did what and why?
Everything from geoengineering to putting radiation in retarded, which we can't say the word anymore.
It simply means late because it's a French word.
Retard.
So people who are late, especially children that were late, used to have radiation plutonium put in their cereals so that we could measure the effects of that in the 1950s.
This among 20 million stories, whether it's MKUltra or whatever.
You and I are so, by virtue of our genesis, we came along and we were able to say, We've been through AM, FM, 8-track, cassette, every form of floppy disk.
Remember the CD?
CD?
The CD.
CD?
Then the CD-ROM.
Then there was the floppy.
Then there was a hard thing.
I remember Quadraphonic.
Oh, yeah.
Digital AM radio, which I never understood the notion of that.
We did that.
Then the internet, dial-up modems.
I remember CNN.
I remember watching cable, Channel 17, WTBS.
So we have been through, by virtue of this, we've seen every iteration.
So we can see this, and I appreciate it.
And you and I were, I didn't know what the word was, Conspiracy theorists before they had a name.
It's like, no.
Because conspiracy...
By the way, you should have a bistro called Carrie Harrison's Lyricard.
And people would, of course, answer the phone and you would get people to answer the phone who would sound...
Anyway, sorry.
But...
That's me.
I'm great.
That's a great branding idea.
Let me write it down.
To help people out and you get an award for this.
Anyway, but the word conspiracy, the lawyer in me, merely deals with the association of people who bind together and confederate to do something bad.
From conspirare, to breathe together.
We are one.
It's like taking Chang and Eng and marrying them.
And it merely details the arrangement.
Not the idea.
You normally can't conspire to do charity, but it's just, if you're by yourself, you can't conspire.
That was it.
That transmogrified into crazy.
That's a conspiracy theory.
No, it's just one person.
Or if the government was lying, it was a conspiracy theory.
When you and I first started out, we didn't know what that word meant.
I didn't know what liberal...
Remember when Rush Limbaugh came out, and these liberals!
And we kept saying, who are these people?
I gotta get these people, and we gotta stop them.
Remember we had, when we were together at WFLA, here comes Rush Limbaugh, and he said, I'm the liberals!
I felt stupid.
I didn't know what this was.
I didn't understand.
And I wanted to get these people too.
So we've been through that.
Well, guess what's happening?
And you may not agree with me, and if you don't, I understand it.
But because of Trump, Kerry, we're seeing people who for the first time are saying, you know, maybe there's something to that.
You know?
I mean, we're seeing some folks who are saying, forget him, but...
You know, maybe we shouldn't be sending all of our money to foreign countries to kill people who have nothing to do with us.
When you and I railed against the Vietnam War, I had a POW bracelet.
We were the cool kids.
Now, if you say, hey, wait a minute, I think those people in Gaza, you anti-Semitic, anti-Semitic, and in Vietnam we were, Un-American.
Love it or leave it.
Get out!
Well, I don't think, you know, Ukraine, Putin-loving, you know, these russophobic...
Do you remember the name calling?
I know they, you know, Walter Cronkite every now and then, but I'm the same person.
I haven't changed, but I'm being yelled at and vilified by all these people.
When I said this before about Vietnam, they love me.
Now I've got Rachel Maddow who's screaming.
One night she was demanding that we go and blow up Syria.
I said, who the hell is this?
Syria?
What are you talking about?
That's the liberal.
Killer liberals.
See, that's a new...
So let me jump into Conspiratorium again because it is fascinating.
That's the name of our crew, by the way.
So what is the plot of the play partially with Gaza?
It's not that.
What you've got in the Gaza Marine, which is the water sector of Gaza, if you look into the water, you go, well, Jesus, there's a giant.
It's like the Gulf of Mexico.
It's called the Gaza Marine.
And in that Gaza Marine is six days.
Billion dollars of untapped oil and natural gas.
And when you go in and you tap that, and remember, the Gazans feel or think or believe that that oil and natural gas, which is under their feet, belongs to them.
Well, they're crazy because it belongs to U.S. oil companies, which tend to plan to exploit that.
And as we know, that 100% of Israel's income comes from the United States.
It is our largest weapons cache in the world.
Weapons dump, as we call it, in the military.
It doesn't mean we dump used weapons there.
It means we store the balance of our weaponry to be deployed all over the Middle East is stored for free in Israel.
That includes about 150 thermonuclear weapons, tanks, MVs, every kind of...
Imaginary weapon and airplane is stored there so they can have easy, quick deployment.
In return, they get to act at their pleasure.
What are they doing in the Gaza Marine?
Netanyahu is going to extract all that oil, let U.S. companies process that oil, send it to Europe, and then Europeans no longer are at the mercy of Vladimir Putin selling oil from Russia.
So it offsets that.
It saves Europe.
It keeps NATO balanced under the current administration, under the next administration.
I don't think it's going to turn out that way.
Who knows what the plan is?
There is a plan.
Of course there's a plan.
It might still be the same plan.
It may be that the president is the office of the presidency and the government itself at large, the government is too big to fail and the president can only make noise.
I don't know.
But you go back to something which is important.
As Salenti says, we would have never even cared a lick about Iraq had they only exported broccoli.
There was a time in the year 2005, whatever, I was absolutely livid and I would do TV commentaries and I would do everything I could to say...
There were women in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, the DRC, Democratic Republic of the Congo.
Women, I've got to be careful, who were during the courses of war who were so ravaged and savaged by basically this R word used as an implement of war where they suffered fistulas and just the most barbaric and doctors would go over there.
And I said, wait a minute.
You mean to tell me we can't say, all right, it's enough.
How many of there are?
I don't care.
We drop a Black Hawk helicopter and we say, we're not going to do this anymore.
Anybody who does this to these women, stop it.
This is ridiculous.
And these women who would become incontinent and they would have to leave their village because of whatever.
And I thought to myself, this is the most stupid...
Anyway, crickets.
So somebody said, what did they export?
The chocolate or something?
I don't know what it was.
What about the UN?
Well, we're going to do the best we can.
Let's do an agenda.
Agenda 23. There it is.
That's the answer.
Right.
What?
We'll write it down.
Yes.
So I don't fit in.
Now, I'm not necessarily advocating war for this, but the thing that drives me nuts...
It's also, have you noticed, how can we look at people?
And immediately, people say there's no such thing as situational morality.
Moral relativism, right or wrong, that's it.
Human life, we must celebrate life.
Life is the most important life.
You've got to put an abortion on life and every human life and the child's life.
And you see these dolls, you mentioned Gaza or whatever, they look like drag dolls dragged through dust.
And people will say, well, you know, what are you going to do?
It's their fault.
Their fault.
And I don't want to get into a Hamad because, of course, it's a complex situation.
But the thing about it is that don't you love the way we, we, these heartless conspirators who are constantly going and saying, can we do something?
You say, would you shut up?
But yet...
When something else comes along and you say, you know, I think very frankly, having a ban on abortion might be a bit of a problem.
You sick bastard!
You deaf merchant!
Wait a minute!
So I don't...
I gave up a long time ago.
I don't know what you call me.
Left, right, whatever it is.
I don't care.
I gotta ask you this question.
Please do me a favor.
Look.
You saying you know a little bit about this gay business, okay?
From what I'm reading.
And that's where I've learned, too.
Everybody, when we were around, we had gay, we had straight, and bi.
That's it.
And maybe, there might have been a permutation.
But when did the T come in?
Do you remember this?
I mean, I'm sure there always was some form of something.
Not just T, but a radicalized, ambivalent, almost hostile, sitting in there on your front table with a stud, purple hair, you're going to call me by my pronoun.
When did pronouns come along?
I'm serious.
I'm not asking stupid.
I'm not trying to be pretend.
I really don't know.
Where did this come from?
I'll first give you my pronoun, just so that we can be clear with each other.
Yes, it's the avow or y 'all.
Y 'all covers it beautifully.
So, I don't know.
T came around a long time ago, but it didn't really have any effect.
It was just a T to cover.
Renee Richards.
Yeah, there we go.
Christine Jorgensen.
There it is.
There it is.
So they were accomplished.
Sports figures.
And so it was kind of maybe a glorious addition.
Then gay marriage was the fundraiser for the gay rights organizations.
And they raised hundreds of millions of dollars around this.
Come to 2012, gay marriage is legalized.
And so suddenly these giant fundraising organizations, think of the Red Cross or something, if suddenly nobody was killed and nobody ever bled.
If they gave peace a chance.
How are we going to raise 10 bucks?
I don't know.
Bracelets?
So it was the same thing with the gay rights organizations.
They picked the T, which was this.0002% of the total global human population.
Real T and not merely...
We're talking...
Again, I don't want to tell you this, but then non-binary kind of slipped in there.
But we're talking about teeth.
It does not mean somebody who identifies as a man who might dress, cross-dressing.
It was the surgical.
It was the real thing.
Orchiectomies and the whole bit.
Bilateral orchiectomies with an occlusion.
If you're going to do one, why not do the other?
Have it all.
Maybe you have three.
Why not?
You don't have to physically have three, but you can believe you have three, and therefore you must believe I have three.
You've heard of phantom pain?
This is an offshoot.
So yeah, these fundraising organizations decided to pick the tea and published real stories of people getting beaten in San Francisco.
These were famous dogs.
Being released on some transgender people and suddenly it became a big fundraising thing.
And it raised so much money that they realized this is the new thing.
And then it ends up on the news.
It ends up everywhere.
And then it becomes available to become the enemy for one side.
It becomes, therefore, by extension or by inverse, the superhero of the other side and even more fungible when it comes to raising money.
So here we are today in this place of confusion where because I say I am a turtle, you don't dare disclaim that.
Because if you do, I will, whatever I'll do, embarrass you, tweet at you, sue you, make you look like, I don't know.
And you have to go with it.
Like I have asked in my own community.
Whatever community that is, because I'm not sure anymore, because I don't dare say what it is.
But I have this discussion all the time.
Let's actually talk about it.
You can't.
It's forbidden.
I'm like, why is it forbidden?
My ancestors wrote the Declaration of Independence.
My ancestors framed the Constitution like, I want freedom of speech, and I don't care what yours is.
I get it.
You get it.
I'm never going to stop yours.
You have to honor mine.
Mine is simply a series of questions you must answer.
You must answer.
If you're going to defend the line on this, you have to tell me why, and they can't.
Because they don't know.
How do you know?
There's something else that happened, and I think it starts off like this.
Most people, I've yet to, honest to God.
There's some people here and there.
Some people believe that, of course, and I'm not an expert on this, but some people believe that homosexuality, homosexuality, it sounds very, very Margaret Mead-esque, like it's a disease, but that it was some kind of a, you were shocked.
It was some kind of a, it's a pathology.
You had a strong mother and a weak father, or your mother was frightened during your pregnancy, or something.
You always begin, you know, it's like, what causes that?
Okay, fine, you get those people.
Then you get others who said, maybe we can change somebody back.
Maybe a conversion therapy.
Which presupposes the fact that maybe you could turn somebody who is straight being gay.
It's got to work both ways.
That's the point.
It presupposes that it's some kind of choice.
And if it were a choice, and there was a man with a hot ass, why wouldn't you just choose to go off and do that?
Because you can't.
It doesn't work.
A hundred super-ripped, hot, naked men in a shower with you, and nothing happens.
Or, anyway, you could have a gay guy with a hundred of the hottest chicks begging him, offering in every possible way they could.
Nothing happens.
It's a biological phenomenon.
Ten percent of the animal kingdom is this way.
It is nature's plan for one reason or another.
By the way, interestingly enough, isn't it funny that this thing that you've said, in some respects, and I can't speak for the Subaru faction of this, but in some particular instances, nature or whatever, have given some men the most incredible talent and the most incredible ability to deal and to identify and to communicate with women.
Which is the most important.
If you could switch the two.
But here is where most of us say, alright, fine.
Children is another story.
When you tell a little kid who doesn't know what their favorite color is, who doesn't understand anything, when you try to introduce it, that doesn't mean if somebody has questions and you maybe figure it out.
But when you say, alright class, today put your books away.
We have a new subject matter.
That's when I draw the line.
Same thing would be for you to discuss heterosexual sex.
Children do not understand this.
Let me give you a quick story.
I heard this, there was a teacher one time who said, teacher had a student, little boy, little girl, who had diabetes 1. And sometimes a child would have to go to the restroom.
For whatever reason.
So the teacher said, I'm going to take care of this.
Now class, little Carrie here, may get up during the course of the day and go to the bathroom.
And the reason why I don't think Carrie's acting up or is misbehaving, but Carrie has something called diabetes.
And because of diabetes, Carrie has to sometimes go to the restroom.
So if you see Carrie go, don't worry about it.
We understand.
Carrie will be back.
And the teacher said, I have handled this so well, I should get a prize for what I did.
That was one of the best explanations.
Until the next morning, when the principal called up and said, what the hell did you tell these kids?
He says, what are you talking about?
He says, I got 10 parents saying that their kids say they've got diabetes.
Now, the point is, a child cannot understand these.
So when you say, do you ever feel like a girl?
Billy Dee Williams, Mr. Colt 45, Mr. Lando Calrissian, the biggest stud of the...
They asked him one time, and he misunderstood and said that as an actor, the next day, Billy Dee Williams comes out as a woman.
He goes, what?
Even he didn't understand it.
So that's my gripe.
And you can do whatever you want to do.
Kids, schools, public or otherwise, keep politics out of it.
Don't talk about sex.
That's for parents, schools, whatever, not when they're of a certain age.
Teach them this thing called math and reading.
I couldn't agree more.
I couldn't agree more.
I have a gay friend who is outraged.
I do.
I have one who's outraged that some drag queen was somewhere reading a book teaching kids to read.
It may have happened once, maybe twice.
It is not a chronic condition.
But politically, just like the tea, we've turned it into they're everywhere and they're taking over.
They're not.
One might flood into a bathroom somewhere in the U.S. It ends up in the newspapers, on TV.
We think this is a chronic problem.
It's not.
It's just not.
But it is pretty entertaining.
And I don't know how tampon Tim got it.
But when somebody came along and said, listen, we want to put tampon dispensers in boys' rooms.
Now, I have a question for you.
Because you would know this.
I would.
I would know this, yes.
Where do they put the tampon?
What do they do with this?
I'm just curious.
You don't have to answer it.
It's kind of rhetorical.
Let it go.
It was probably put in a boy's room somewhere, which, of course, confuses everyone and causes reasonable outrage.
I can't tell you what a boy would want to do with a tampon.
Let me ask you a question.
Be honest with me.
One of the smartest people I've ever known.
Tell me.
Even at your new bistro, but have you ever gone to one of these men, female bathrooms, and there's a design?
Something graphic.
Is that a dress?
At one time it said at a seafood place it said gulls and buoys.
I thought, okay.
Wait a minute.
Is that a male gull?
I'm working into it.
But sometimes I've looked at these kind of these like the Challenger or what is it?
Remember that Carl Sagan would send that CD with this?
Naked man and a star.
I looked at this and I'm wondering, what is this?
So if I'm having, at the age of 66, I'm looking at this diagram, wondering, I think this is the one.
Imagine being eight and somebody's explaining to you the subtleties of masculinity versus, you know, androgyny versus pronouns.
I just say, you know what?
Save it.
Another place.
Very, very simple.
Teach people how to survive because, my friend, we are not going to survive in the 21st century when you've got Europe and you've got China and you've got super students and we've got people here like in New York City with Bill de Blasio trying to close down Stuyvesant High School and Brock School of Science because there's too many Asians?
What?
Which is reverse?
I don't know if that's DEI.
I'm not really sure.
We are becoming this idiocracy.
I know we're getting way off.
One of the best movies ever made.
And it ought to be mandatory viewing in schools.
Well, to wrap this up, dear friend, give us your final view.
The future of California, L.A. Say something good.
Why do you love it?
What pains you the most about it?
Tell me L.A. at its best.
Because when people slam New York and they haven't been there, tell us why you love L.A. Like Randy Noman would say.
Yes.
Well, I'm going to do it a little differently.
L.A., maybe the best way to appreciate L.A. is through AMC, the TV channel, or Netflix.
When you actually get a TV show, now when Lionel, when you and I were growing up, it was must-see TV.
It was crap.
Can you remember?
Thursday night, must-see.
It was awful.
Just the worst, most mediocre tabulum you could never want to watch.
But now we actually are in the golden age of TV with really brilliant writing.
Some shows are absolutely stupendous.
They come out of L.A. So L.A. is a place where...
High achievers do live.
It's just surrounded by a lot of Kardashians, which you get 99% Kardashian, 1% really cool people, because those 1% are like you, Lionel.
If they put them on a lot, most people, many people, let's say, aren't going to really get it.
But they do get the Kardashians.
They get that they're jealous of the Kardashians.
They get that the Kardashians drive fancy cars.
They eat at this grocery store.
Tend to go eat at those stores and restaurants to be like a Kardashian.
So they're just courtiers.
But LA is filled with a lot of brilliant people.
They go there to achieve their dream, which is to become a writer.
Not in the old sense of being Jonathan Swift or L. Frank Baum, but being a TV writer, which is today's world of literature, isn't it?
So it's filled with a lot of great people.
It's also filled with the fallout of a lot of those great people.
It gets about 650,000 people a year coming in to realize their dream.
People suddenly have to buy a car.
They've never had owned a car before.
It's very expensive.
Now they have to get car insurance.
They have to pay first and last month's rent.
The rents are almost New York level, so $5,000, $6,000 a month.
This, that, and the other.
And after about six months, they run out of money, but they can't afford to move back.
A lot of them end up homeless.
They end up four people in an apartment.
These are the stories you hear about L.A. Along with the legacy of the air pollution, along with the lack, you can't drive anywhere, shootings, road rage, blah, blah, blah.
But there is a giant universe of really high-functioning, cool, smart, funny people.
It's true, there is no irony in L.A. That's on the East Coast.
But apart from that, there really is good humor.
National Lampoon, born there.
A lot of really great stuff.
Still exists there and will only thrive in a place that has no rules.
LA is the most hedonistic place in the world.
Your health insurance will allow you a therapeutic massage with a happy ending.
Paid for by UnitedHealthcare.
That's why you want to move there.
It's Hollywood, baby.
So it's a cool place.
The downside, which I just mentioned, is that it's going to have to rebuild itself, but it will reboot, I think, in the favor of the people who are able to contribute in ways that matter to you and me, as opposed to the non-contributors, which is what it's been geared toward, going down and down, vitiating the quality of everything to meet the lowest common denominator.
That's got to stop, because clearly it didn't work.
Do you find that there is...
There's a couple of phenomena that I believe in.
One is auto-loot, where whenever there's a complete breakdown of order, some people will break into looting.
They don't even know why.
It's like a patella, almost a Pavlovian, atavistic thing, preferably liquor stores and Chanel high-end.
They don't know why.
It's like, what's happening here?
The other one is auto-mourne.
And that's where people, because of this thing called social media, which we did not have, we had no idea what this thing was, where people have to go out and say, oh, Frank Baum died years ago.
Oh, you think you're feeling the loss?
Oh, no, no, no.
No words.
No words.
I'm crushed.
And of course, the words that we use today are literally for everything.
Literally is like, I literally...
My eyes literally bugged out.
And bro, bro.
And we used to be amazing and awesome, whatever.
But there's this thing of, I can't speak.
I am, okay, this is whoever died.
Elena Verdugo, who played Consuela and Marcus Welby.
I can't move.
I'm paralyzed.
Because my, or here's a picture of me with Elena Verdugo.
I actually met her and here's a picture of me with...
Carl Reiner.
See, I knew him.
I'm somebody.
I touched this once a live man.
But now the new one is grief porn.
And I'm sorry, some people who have nothing to do with it are online directing the attention because of this solipsistic, narcissistic focus.
Look at me.
I will do whatever.
If it's happy, if it's...
Anything.
So you have people who, the people with the worst tragedies you don't hear from, but then there's this manufactured, funereal, hyperlugubrious, insincere pap that makes me sick.
It's like we, by virtue of social media, which takes, which completely ruined the spectrum of normal reaction.
We don't even know.
We're like this kid in the old days when we had We had Asperger's who would go to movies and watch and say, see, this is what interest looks like.
This is what happy looks like.
We've lost real feeling.
And it's horrible.
I can't imagine.
And being a kid and you're in this literal, bruh, hellscape?
This dystopian...
It's Dresden.
It's Nagasaki.
From a couple of torches?
From a couple of fireworks?
Come on, man.
I'm still hard that you said hyperlugubrious.
I only hear it 40 times a day, so this is amazing.
Yeah, really, being a kid growing up in a surreal world where everything you say could be misinterpreted and you could be punished, where what your senses evaluate, your senses are wrong.
You may not challenge your senses.
I mean, think about that.
Because I claim or say, A is actually B, an apple is a pear, up is down.
I mean, this is Orwell, isn't it?
Or is peace, up is down, black is white.
Right, exactly.
It is something.
And the thing about it is that whenever you see this, I find myself, I lose folks very quickly because Fox News and CNN, they just want to show the pictures.
Yeah.
Show the pictures.
I've seen the pictures.
Look, I would do this, my wife and I were here on 9-11, and we saw it, and lived through it, and so what we saw had nothing to do with what the media reported.
In any event, an hour and 12 minutes.
We did good.
I want you to write down and diagram from Olestra to tin and rubber as a Casus belli, so to speak, in Vietnam, to name it.
It's the most incredible weaving tapestry of seemingly disconnected, psychotic, awful, or connective tissue.
Because it is.
It's awfully awful.
Kerry Harrison...
In two ways.
Awfully awful.
Yeah, right indeed.
Again, the award-winning host of Public Radio's Rethinking Heroes.
How can we hear this around the world?
Well, same way that you do it on Fridays at 9 a.m. Pacific, which would be noon Eastern.
I live stream on my YouTube channel, which is Carrie Harrison on YouTube.
Same thing on Twitter, formerly known as X, or the other way around.
Yes.
I'm going to put a link to that, indeed.
Yeah.
Instagram, whatever.
The whole soup cat and pizzas, anything with a chip and a signal.
Just Carrie Harrison for pretty much any platform.
And I need to have you back on again and talk about the future as we see it, as we rethink your heroism of being brave and cool and doing what you do for people who would not have access.
Right.
But we have done...
We did this.
By the way, you did.
We didn't know it was cool.
I can't speak for me.
I just thought the people that I thought were interesting, like Mel Brooks and others in National Lampoon and Carlin, that was pretty much presumed.
The thing that you did...
On local TV with the FLA Lounge was just one of the most incredible ones, one of the funniest ones when you had our good friend Ted Webb and you had an actual colonoscope and you had a real gastroenterologist, right?
A real doctor.
And you ran this Actual fiber optic into Ted's, the crook of his arm.
And it looked exactly like the folds and convolutions of the cecum.
And Ted at the time, we met at, right around that time, the great Leslie Nielsen.
Leslie Nielsen had this device, well I can do this like this, but he had a little device which all of us had.
And we met him at a Wade Boggs charity Softball game.
Golf ball.
It was golf.
Well, no.
It was actually Al Lang.
Anyway, I met him there.
And he had a little cushion.
Well, I met him there.
But he had this little thing called Handy Gas.
And this is what he was famous for.
And I walked up to him, Leslie Nielsen, after, you know, naked gun and everything.
And I said, it's such a pleasure to meet you.
And he said, great to meet you.
And he gives me one of those.
And I didn't know.
What it was.
I didn't think anything of it.
When we met afterwards, one of us, you or Ted or whoever said, you know the funniest thing happened.
He broke wind.
He said, wait a minute.
He did that to me too.
Wait a minute.
And we went and said, alright Nielsen, what is it?
And he showed us.
And we all immediately, his name was Jack Martin, was the guy who developed this.
I think Ted bought the company.
Ted was off.
We did it for like two or three weeks and we got tired of it.
Ted Webb, the late Ted Webb.
God bless him.
We never got tired of it.
He never, never.
So, while we were, it was flatulence constantly.
You had this wonderful show on public access.
What was it?
What was the carrier at the time?
Jones Inner Cable.
Jones Inner Cable.
Tapioca today.
And hello, I'm, you know.
And then you came along with this Stan Freeberg meets whatever.
And there was Ted with a colonoscopy fiber optic in his arm and flatulence sound.
And people were thinking, what the hell?
Deadpan, straight.
It was so brilliant.
So brilliant.
And I'll leave it at that.
I won't even talk about.
Fake calls and pranks.
The Black Mamba days.
We'll just leave it at that.
We'll just let it go.
For another time.
Kerry Harrison, I'll have all your bona fides.
My brother, thank you so much.
Let us please speak again.
Be well.
Send all of our love and respect and energy to our friends and colleagues in L.A. And thank you again, my friend.
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