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Dec. 22, 2024 - Lionel Nation
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Democrats Are in Full Freakout Over Trump and the MAGA Revolution

Democrats Are in Full Freakout Over Trump and the MAGA Revolution

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We have a lot to discuss this morning as you can possibly, possibly, possibly understand.
So much to discuss.
Not even know where to start.
So get ready.
Understand what's happening.
Grasp the notion of this.
We just had a nice little snowfall in New York this morning.
So people are going to go crazy about that.
Talk about the weather.
Not I, mind you.
Do you understand this?
This is the most...
And this is the most...
Fred...
I have no idea what Fred Haddad is saying.
Have a security block on my MasterCard debit card.
I have no idea what you...
Fred, I don't know.
Do me a favor.
Why don't you email me this?
What does this mean?
What are you...
This is right off...
I haven't even started anything.
And it's like, what are we talking about?
Email me, Fred.
Email me.
Okay?
Why don't you email me?
And just...
I haven't even said anything yet!
And already I'm getting this.
What are we happening here?
Well, we'll talk about this.
I'm glad you talked about...
James Green says Tim Pool.
We'll talk about him.
Tim Pool is an asshole who is just, needs to be just...
He taught a few lessons, tuned up a little bit.
You know what I mean?
There's such rudeness in the world.
We'll talk about that and other things.
We have so much.
This is not the way I wanted to start the show off, but it doesn't really matter.
Let me explain to you, my friends.
Good morning.
Thank you so much for being with us.
I appreciate it.
I live in a world of really...
It's so interesting because, as you know, because of mainstream media, people just come out of nowhere and all of a sudden, guess what?
By the way, Fred, email me, Fred.
Email me.
Fred, email.
Lionel at lionelmedia.com.
Email.
Thank you, Fred.
Appreciate that.
Thank you.
Thank you for that.
Appreciate it.
Just an idea.
Just a thought.
Call me wacky.
I appreciate it immensely.
Email.
Anything you have with the show, email.
Any question you have, email.
Thoughts, ideas, email.
The other day somebody said, oh, you'll love this one.
This guy says, I can't believe it!
A half an hour into the show, no, five minutes into the show and there's a commercial.
Schmuck!
It is absolutely axiomatic.
Pre-rolls, mid-rolls deal five minutes.
That's the time to do it.
But there's this sense of entitlement like, hey, don't interrupt my show.
This is my show.
I'm not paying anything for it.
I don't own it, but I want you to do it.
And also, you're late.
Where are you?
And by the way, people are serious about this.
People are dead serious.
Something is happening to us.
We're losing our sense of civility.
We're losing our sense of really understanding what's going on.
And I'm going to try my best today, dear friends, to let you know.
I'm going to try my best to let you know to talk about some things which a lot of people are going to get very upset about.
Very upset.
Because what it is, is it goes against the usual norm.
The usual story.
Because we are among children.
Not here, but in the world.
Children.
And we have to pull back and say, okay, let's regroup.
And I've got some rules for you.
And we're going to try because I think, I think sometimes that we need to step back and say, okay, let me see.
Let me get this clear.
Let me get this clear.
Let's don't overreact.
Let's be also as courteous as possible.
But that's a waste of time.
But in the meantime, we're going to enjoy this carefully.
This is the worst intro ever!
That I've ever started a show with.
But it doesn't matter.
Because that's the beauty of live.
You don't know where it's going.
There's one show I do like every now and then.
I'll watch it.
And the two hosts start talking beforehand.
And then it's always...
And I like the way it's always confused.
They talk.
They mumble.
One's microphone doesn't work.
I love it.
There's something to be said for that.
I think so.
But in the meantime, my friend, I thank you for being with us.
I thank you for being a part of our world.
And as I said before specifically, during the first five minutes, critical messages are heard like this.
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My friends, I want to talk about something which is a very serious issue that none of us are speaking about, but I find it fascinating.
And sometimes I look at it as a tutorial, and sometimes I look at it as a chance for us to use it as a...
As a reason, as an explanation.
First, I want to talk about something.
I am absolutely, completely the atypical, non-prototypical user of YouTube and platform news.
I don't listen to what people have to say.
I like the facts of the case.
I don't want to hear what they have to say.
Or what they think.
I want to say when they talk about something.
Tell me about a fact.
Tell me about something.
But I don't really care about individual opinions.
I just don't.
That's me.
Everybody's got their own thing.
I'm from a different generation.
I grew up with the idea that I loved Gore Vidal.
I loved Bill Buckley.
The closest thing they ever got.
Gore Vidal never screamed.
Never.
Gore Vidal never screamed.
Ever.
Never.
One time he and Bill Buckley were into this famous, you know, this famous piece where they were talking, he said, it was at ABC, what was it, Comp's favorite enemies, or you've seen it, and he said, shut up, you queer, or I'll stop.
I'll suck you.
And you'll remain plastered.
And his jaw was going back.
This was Bill Buckley out of his mind.
And Gore Vidal just sat back and laughed at him.
Just smiled.
Even Norman Mailer one time drunk on Dick Cavett.
There wasn't really any yelling.
Noam Chomsky is the best.
Noam Chomsky never.
And the fact that he didn't lose his mind.
I loved it.
I always thought that was a superior intellect.
But that was then.
I want you to see this before we get to this Candace Owens piece, which is important.
This is this fellow named Tim Pool.
I don't watch him.
He's very successful.
God bless him.
Very smart.
Knows what he's doing.
He's a guy who wears that watch cap for whatever reason, which is great.
No problem.
So does The Edge.
Wears something like that.
And this is he during this instance.
And I want you to see this.
Now, look at this kid.
This is a child, okay?
So right off the bat, I said, okay, I'm going to go up against this child.
All right.
And in this child, by the way, I love this studio.
They have like swords or something.
Anyway, it's very interesting.
A lot of thought went into the decor of this.
Anyway, so this is a child.
Young man, I don't know what he's talking about.
But watch this and watch...
This is a tutorial.
Watch Tim Pool.
Just lay into him.
You have?
No, I haven't.
No, no, no.
Stop, stop.
You don't know anything about these January 6th cases.
You don't know why these people are in jail.
You don't know that a man is in Brooklyn right now for three years without charge or trial.
And when Donald Trump says, these people have been held for too long, you say, no, Trump is wrong.
Keep them locked up.
That's fucking fascist.
Now let me tell you something right off the bat, okay?
First of all, let me make sure you understand this.
I would have loved to see this guy just jump across the desk and say, you can say whatever you want, but nobody talks to me like that.
Do you understand that?
With all of your friends around you to back you up, Mr. Tough Guy, calling me a fashion, and by the way, Tim Poole is 100% correct.
See, a lot of people don't understand it.
They say, well, he's correct.
Yes.
But this is a work.
And this young man just sits here and he says, I am living.
Like, you know who's like that?
Is that guy Destiny?
I don't know what he has to say.
Because Tim Poole thinks in other people and I guess can to someone to an extent.
They believe that the faster you speak, the smarter you sound.
That people who, you ever hear Einstein speak?
I mean, my God.
You don't even need a stenographer.
You could draw what he says he spoke.
But this is today.
We're different things.
But anyway, just look at the rudeness.
Dude, you've been sitting here with no knowledge of the specifics of some of these cases.
Now, what's with the outfit?
Listen, far be it from me.
Far be it from me to talk about any kind of style.
But look at this.
What is this?
This looks...
It's interesting decor.
It's a combination.
Is that a pool?
A pinball?
I don't know what this is.
There's a man in Brooklyn right now, I'm going to say it again, no charges whatsoever brought.
He's been in jail for three fucking years.
Now he's got to say that because we have to remember, you have to F-bomb it.
Don't use it like a spice.
Use it as a substitution for wit.
And the idea, too, is to come across as real angry and real tough.
And what that tells me is like, oh, okay.
Now, meanwhile, it's real easy to be tough and say that when you're in a room surrounded by people who will come to your aid, if this guy, who I don't think he looks rather substantial, so to speak, comes flying across that desk, Would Tim Pool talk to Joe Rogan like this?
Assuming Joe Rogan was equally as wrong?
No.
For you to sit there and say it is good that he remains locked up is fascism.
It's not fascism.
I'm sorry.
It's one of those words like communism, Marxism.
That's socialism.
It's not fascism.
It has nothing to do with this.
There have been totalitarian.
There have been people who have completely just thrown away due process who have nothing to do with fascists or...
Mussolini or what is his name?
Not Gentile, but in any event, this is just bumper sticker talk.
That is saying the hierarchy, the hierarchical system of the courts and the government is just and the process is all that matters.
And I am saying perhaps three years is enough because I actually have moral logic and an understanding of...
Ooh, ooh, he has moral logic.
Not just logic, moral logic.
Of these cases.
Hence, my position on January 6th has always been, the people who attack police must go to prison.
The people who attack police must go to prison.
You sure about that?
If you hurt a policeman, I think if it's in a riot, but attack a police, prison?
Okay.
Three years is a fucking long time.
See, there he goes again.
He loves these words.
He's a tough guy.
He is tough.
For assault on an officer.
We have seen people on the far left, notably when they were firebombing shit all across Minnesota.
33 people murdered.
And how many criminal charges do we get for this?
When they firebombed a police station in four...
Okay, I gotta stop.
This is one of those ones where...
Now listen.
God bless.
Now, I have seen this my whole life.
I've seen this my whole life.
And one of the times you'll see it is when something happens where there'll be some horrible case in this news.
A family of five, a grandmother, you know, something that is just inexcusably, inexplicably, just inmanely horrible.
Just terrible.
And the host will say, I don't know about you, and I may be old-fashioned, but by taking a family of five and subjecting them to satanic torture, say, thank you.
Thank you for clarifying this.
Thank you for acting upset about this.
This kid's like this.
He goes, I am loving this.
And all they know is I'm sitting here, he's not moving.
He's not batting an eye.
He's not batting an eye.
But yet, people, they don't understand.
I would love to say, that's very interesting.
You don't think people should, you don't mind?
And by the way, I agree with the context of what Tim Pool will say, without a doubt.
But it's this, what is this?
We live in a world of children, where we confuse, we need theatrics with the thought.
Jordan Peterson.
This guy.
Destiny.
I don't even know what Destiny he talks about.
But we don't want to just hear what you have to say.
You ever hear Norman Finkelstein?
This guy probably is the antithesis of this.
Norman Finkelstein talks like this.
And he speaks in a speed where he enunciates...
Okay, fine.
Brilliant.
It wouldn't work on this show.
People, they want to hear something.
They want to hear schmaltz, anger, and camp.
That's why I saw this.
I was like, you've got to be kidding me.
Now, when I said something, I said, if anybody, seriously, I would absolutely, I'm at this stage right now where I would say, I would love to say, you know what, this would be terrific.
If I just jumped across, I would be so viral.
Overnight.
They say, did you see that?
Because that's where we were.
Nobody said, what were we talking about?
Now, let me just assume this.
Joe Rogan, okay?
Joe Rogan is a killer.
Joe Rogan can kick you so hard he can kill you.
Kill you.
If Joe Rogan were that young man sitting across from What was that Michael Park?
Was it a long cane Bronson or Bronson?
I mean, they wore the watch cap.
Anyway, if he's had a cross, would he talk to Joe Rogan like that?
No.
No.
Nah.
No.
You know who was like that one time?
I was on a show with this Jadruel, Eric Bolling.
Remember him?
This guy.
He shot his career.
He always said something.
He would turn to the guest and go, you say one more thing.
I'm going to cut your mic.
I say, what are you doing?
What is this?
There was a time where it was kind of like Joe Pine.
And then, you know what, it reminded me of Morton Downey Jr.
I mean, that was, you know.
And then every night had to be bigger than the other.
So anyway, I just want you to just listen to what I'm saying.
Please do not confuse the volume with the sagacity or the truth of the argument.
That's all I'm saying.
And know when you're being played.
And know you never want the audience to think that this is a work.
First of all, you're making a point.
Who's this kid?
I mean, it's okay.
There are people, if I have somebody, if I say, okay, I've got a...
I've got a person in the...
Our next guest, Tim, is a woman who believes that people, that babies should be castrated in utero if the mother believes they should be a transitional transit.
Something...
Now, this is so bizarre.
Tim Pool would love it.
He'd say, let me tell you something.
It is...
People say, that's brilliant.
It's like, no!
That's easy!
That's low-hanging fruit.
No!
There's nothing better.
There's so many things you can do with it.
Tell this person, tell this kid, you're right about that.
Why do we even have courts?
What's the purpose of the courts?
We know what happened.
Have him agree to something that is absurd.
Laugh, play.
People love to see people hurt.
This is ridiculous.
Look, I can't convince people of this, but this is where we've gone.
This is where we've ended up, my friends.
Let me give you another one, too.
The Candace Owens piece is coming up, which is very interesting.
This is a poor guy who is trying to...
Oh, by the way, did you hear it?
Don't be surprised if SiriusXM...
SiriusXM, if it goes to...
What is it?
I'm getting word that SiriusXM from different folks.
I'm not going to mention who.
But that SiriusXM...
Here we go.
This was something I read.
This was in the, dare I say, the gossip blinds.
that a little over a year ago was told that the audio streaming company, SiriusXM, was by the end of the year to be 90% AI-generated product.
They are well ahead of their goal and artists are finally just catching on that paychecks Uh-oh.
So this is what is being pursued.
Now, this one.
I'm hearing that Sirius just announced they are discontinuing streaming.
They will focus on car subscriptions only.
People had to admit that there is basically zero younger growth.
No one under 35 subscribed.
Also, that 2025 predictions are going to be way down and now have to be cut to 275 million.
These are, again, thoughts, hints, rumors, etc.
Not fact.
What about Howard Stern?
Serious shows are probably getting blown out.
Pandora might even...
Go the same fate.
They realize that Pandora can't compete with other music platforms.
Oh, by the way, don't be surprised that the new Howard Stern is this Alex Cooper in Call Her Daddy.
They pumped about $120 million on her.
She's about 50 years old.
They're making her out.
I'm just kidding.
So, this is...
Call Her Daddy is part of how podcasts are now being streamed.
Anyway, everything is changing.
Call Her Daddy?
Somebody somewhere is saying, are you kidding?
Now, you know who does a very good job on this?
A very good job?
Charlamagne Tha God?
Never heard a second of it.
Doesn't matter.
I was watching a cricket match the other day and they were going crazy.
I don't know the first thing about cricket.
You don't have to watch me to know what's going on.
So what I'm saying is we are still seeing the initial throws of this particular platform in its way.
And I'm sitting back and I'm just loving this.
I'm loving this.
Oh, our dear friend.
Our different...
Hang on a minute.
Jay Giza says, Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Love your work.
Jay Giza, thank you.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
How incredibly kind of you.
Kind.
Okay.
A while back, there was this guy, Junk Yogurt, along with Anna Emphysema, or Anna Melanoma, whatever her name is.
She had this tumor in her head.
And this guy would get greasy and sweat and bloated and he just looked painful.
He looked very uncomfortable.
And he was a lefty.
He's still a lefty.
And he did very, very well.
I think, who was it?
Somebody who bankrolled him, was it?
Geffen?
Don't hold me to it.
But somebody put money into it.
And he was very, very good.
And I think Jimmy Dore was very...
Very successful.
Anyway, somebody else.
Mankiewicz?
Mankiewicz?
By the way, his movie podcasts are terrific.
His series with Bogdanovich is tremendous.
In any event.
So now we have Anna.
So here's the deal.
Remember, professional wrestling.
You're going to have...
The switching.
You know that in the business, in wrestling, when you go from face to heel, it's huge.
You understand what I'm saying?
Face to heel.
Good guy to bad guy.
When a tag team turns on themselves, bad.
Watch this inner angst as, remember, who was it?
Anna, I don't watch these, but I saw a big on X or something that showed.
How she was attacked by somebody, or she became right-wing because somebody attacked her.
I don't know.
Watch old junk, and they're trying this out, and I'm not buying a word of it.
I'm not buying a word of it, but this is their new twist to try to tell you they've changed their ways.
Kamala Harris would probably win in a cakewalk for governor.
No!
Okay.
No!
What are you doing?
See, this is her saying, now he actually, junk is correct, because junk understands.
Junk understands politics versus, I guess, just policy.
So she says, now's my time, because this is my new position.
I'm this screaming Yenta.
I think Obama Harris will probably win in a cakewalk for governor.
No!
Okay.
No!
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
No, I'm telling you the reality, whether you like it or not.
He's right.
What are you doing?
In California, he's absolutely correct.
Democratic voters in California...
Look at her.
Look at her.
She's saying, how am I doing?
Is anybody buying this?
She's looking to her left.
Are you buying this?
Can you...
Is this...
Are you believing it?
Because I'm not really believing it.
Are you believing this?
Who's believing me?
Love to obey.
Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god.
I'm going to move, Cenk.
I'm going to quit my job.
I'm going to quit my job.
She's really, she's saying, now I'm stuck with this, and I'm not really sure where I'm going with this ridiculous act, but I'm going to...
Continue doing it.
I'm not saying I'm in favor of it.
I'm telling you what's...
He's right.
If the Democratic Party said, we anoint Kamala Harris.
It's true.
A giant percentage of Democrats in California would go, yes, we obey.
We will take the loyalty oath.
It doesn't matter how bad she is.
This state cannot survive another incompetent Democrat leading it.
That's not the issue.
See, she's lost.
She's hoping somebody...
And we're talking about it, but I'm saying this should be for a class.
What are you...
Where are we going?
This isn't even believable.
No, we just can't.
Anyway, people are egging her on.
Apparently, she's in a wait-and-see mode.
How about you wait and see your way out of public life?
Go do what you're supposed to do.
Go work in the private sector.
Go do the lobbying thing.
Whatever it is.
But do not run as governor of California.
Do not.
What do you think about that?
Is there anyone here, seriously, my dear friends, in the annals of reality of which, and I'm sure you've been a part of this, you know, and especially those Those dear friends of ours who have watched professional wrestling, do you really think, honestly, that that was believable?
No.
No.
Let me give you another one.
Ready for this?
This is another good one.
Let's talk about something.
Fat shaming.
Number one.
I do not believe people should be made To feel bad because of their weight.
I do not.
I do not believe that people should be held, not accountable, but I would say this, I don't believe people should be penalized for things they cannot help.
If you have a form of impulse disorder, maybe Tourette's, let's say, Where you are unable to, let's say, control your...
You should not be able to demand seating in a Broadway theater and for me to overlook the fact that you're yelling or barking or whatever.
If you're eight feet tall, You should not be able to say, I'm going to go onto this plane, and I want a special accommodation.
I want a special C-130.
No!
No, no, no, no, no, no.
But I know you are.
I know you are.
Have you ever been to a...
Who has been to a Broadway theater in recent times?
I am not...
By any stretch, no pun intended, of the imagination, Lou Alcindor.
And I have sat in these seats, I'm wondering, I can't believe, I'm like, I'm just, what size were these people in their 20s or wherever they made these?
Now, if a person who's 8 feet tall says, I'm going to sit right in the middle of the orchestra section, and nobody around them can see, is that fair?
No.
And do you know why?
I'll tell you why.
Because this is a different story.
We are not treating you differently, but more people are inconvenienced by your size, weight, girth, stature, behavior, malady, whatever it is, than you.
Because there is one of you.
We only have one eight foot.
We only have one person who might be able to sit.
Let me give you this story.
And this woman has made an issue saying that I demand special seats because I'm supersized or plus-sized.
And airline seats don't work.
What do you think of this?
...make their products smaller every year.
Then they blame us for not fitting.
If your car got smaller every year, wouldn't you be pissed?
Is that sugar-free?
Seats are getting smaller.
Seatbelts are getting shorter.
And they pack us in tighter so they can make more money.
But when we can't squeeze into their tiny seats, it's somehow our fault.
I'm done letting airlines make us the problem when it's them causing it.
Look at this.
Imagine you sitting next to that.
First of all, you wouldn't be sitting next to that.
So you see where this is going?
So you see where this is going?
Now, if we had this, if Tim Pool had this woman on, He'd be yelling at her.
He'd be dropping F-bombs and he would see every obvious thing.
Well, first of all, she wouldn't jump out of her seat because she couldn't.
But she would do this because he's like a bully and kind of wants to yell.
And you want...
And of course, by the way, do you know what he did just going back at that pool thing?
Which I think is interesting.
What did he do?
He shut her down.
He shut her down.
Poole shot the kid.
He didn't say anything.
He just stopped talking.
I want to hear from the kid.
I know what he said before.
I know.
I understand.
So wouldn't you love to see this woman to sit there and say, well, well, well.
So let me see if I've got this straight.
You see where we're going with this?
And I'm being very polite.
You want to have A special seating arrangement or free seats or because I've always suggested and I said this one time and people got upset with me.
Again, I don't care anything about when I shouldn't say this, about people fat or skinny or doesn't matter to me.
It's a free country.
But number one, you don't want to go to the airport and you have that little kind of square Device where if you can put your overhead in it, nobody ever does it.
Because people take backpacks.
Backpacks are the bane of my existence.
You put the thing in there, okay, fine.
What's interesting to note is something which I find fascinating.
Do you believe Do you believe that it might be a good idea to have people, maybe, you know those things when you're a kid and they have this sign that says, if you're not this tall, or this, you know, whatever it is, this, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, okay.
Do you think it would be probably a good idea, maybe, to have Something to the effect of...
How do I say this?
To have a...
To have a shadow.
A shadow that you...
A shadow that you involve yourself in.
What do you think about that?
Does that make sense to you?
A shadow.
Doesn't that make sense?
I think it makes perfect sense.
So if you can't fit into this shadow, this silhouette, you have to buy two seats.
Two seats.
Or we have a special seating.
Just like we have ambulance.
If you're in a hospital bed, we're not going to let you go in the hospital bed.
But I'm sick.
That's what special hospital transport planes are.
Maybe one day we'll have more of a gutted out seat.
Who knows?
There might be someone and you have a bench.
Padded, but it's like a long thing where there is no seat.
So you can spread out as much as you can.
We have a super extended seatbelt.
I don't have any problem in trying to.
I would think that the airline would want there to be some kind of an accommodation or something.
But to demand it?
To demand it?
See, this is where we are.
But if you had this woman on your show, do you start yelling at her and shutting her down?
Tim Pool would.
He would say all the obvious stuff.
What about your health?
I would love her to hang herself.
You know, this makes sense to me.
Makes sense to me.
And she would think, what is he saying?
Where is he going with this?
Set her up.
But I'm different.
I'm old school.
I'm from a different generation.
But I may also tell you something which is also critical, my dear friends.
I want you to listen to me and listen carefully and listen like you've never listened before.
Do you hear what I'm saying?
Good.
This is important.
This is critical.
Number one.
I don't know what they're going to do.
I don't know how they're going to do it.
I don't know the means, the modality, the motivation, the opportunity.
I don't know.
But before you know it, something bad is going to happen.
Strikes, supply chain disasters, I don't know.
And you had better say, hey mom, dad, yeah, I'm in the garage.
Did you ever get that food that Uncle Lenny told you about?
What?
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Did you get the word?
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Power Outline, Weather, Drones, Dirty Bomb Link, BLM, whatever the aliens, I don't know, ransomware, freak out, post-Trump.
Whatever.
But I went down to the basement and I saw a canoe there and an old bike and a sled and this chest of drawers that we've never looked at and a filing cabinet and weights that nobody uses.
But the food!
Remember how he said get the food?
Remember how he had that special deal at Christmas?
A four-week emergency supply kit?
Remember that one?
That deal?
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Remember that?
Where you thought it was a joke because it was so low?
You did take advantage of that, didn't you?
Tell me you did.
You did take advantage of that.
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It was a sale of a lifetime.
You did get this.
Please tell me you did.
For the love of God.
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When Christmas comes, and everybody's expecting all these things, and they've been through this, and you don't even remember anymore.
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Oh look, we got nuts.
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Thank you!
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He won.
Now, my friends, what I'm about to tell you now is very, very important, very, very critical, and I want you to listen to me and listen carefully, okay?
Okay.
I do not want you to misunderstand what I'm saying, but I'm going to try my best.
I do not care.
I do not care.
What you think, and this is important, I do not care about what you think when it comes to whether you like somebody on TV or whether you don't.
I...
You got it?
I don't care if you like this person.
It doesn't matter to me.
I don't care if you like Neil Cavuto.
I don't care.
I look at content.
One of the most fascinating issues right now is occurring with Candace Owens, who is putting it all on the line.
And she is going after Israel, Netanyahu and what she alleges to be genocide and referring to Gaza as a holocaust.
A holocaust!
You have traversed so many red lines it's not even funny.
You call this a holocaust?
A holocaust.
Oh my god.
A holocaust?
Yep.
A holocaust.
You know you can't do that.
I'm doing it.
You know you can't use that word.
You know, you know, you cannot, you cannot refer to what's happening in Gaza as genocide, or apartheid, or ethnic cleansing.
You know that.
I'm doing it.
You know that October the 7th justifies everything they are doing.
Uh-uh.
She went after Ben Shapiro, I think Dennis Prager, and she has Drawn that line in the sand.
She says, I'm going after you.
I want you, I want Netanyahu, Israel, the Jewish community, and AIPAC against me.
I'm taking you on, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.
She was on with Pierce Morgan.
Let us watch this.
Tell me what you think.
The larger discussion that's happening right now is whether or not having survived a Holocaust gives you the permission to commit a Holocaust.
And for whatever reason, people have been, what I would say, milking the Holocaust narrative in the same way that Black Americans were milking the slavery narrative and essentially saying, like, we lived through this and we survived this, and so now nobody can say that anything we do is wrong.
And that's the big issue today is that we have so many people that will not recognize that it is totally feasible that a Jewish person.
And I'm speaking here about Bibi Netanyahu could do something as horrific as what was done to the Jews.
Listen, World War Two or throughout history.
But is that an accurate comparison?
I'll tell you why I say that.
As we know, I mean, whatever Dan Bilzerian wants people to believe, six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust.
Another six million people were murdered by Hitler and the Nazis.
The numbers of people being killed in Gaza are, in my view, However, you're still talking about, at the moment, a death toll of under 50,000.
There's no comparison in the amount of dead people compared to...
The Holocaust.
Do you understand why?
But it is a Holocaust, what's happening.
Well, is it, though?
Yes.
Because I think language is really important.
I think language is really important as well.
People say Holocaust, genocide, and so on.
I think what's happening is a Holocaust.
The burning bodies of the children that I'm seeing every day, and we spoke about this a little bit on my show, but I have recognized that the ability to see this stuff every day has transformed my opinion.
Maybe the numbers wouldn't have gotten so high if people had spoken up when it was happening at the very beginning during World War II.
And so I want to use my platform to say that I believe...
I think Bibi Netanyahu, there's tons of evidence, and obviously the Western media is not reporting on this, but the corruption trials that are going on with Bibi Netanyahu pertaining to October 7th and him editing the transcripts and the prior knowledge that he knew is now becoming extremely pertinent.
It is a question as to whether or not he allowed the attacks to take place, essentially, to then be able to go in and to commit this Holocaust against the Palestinians.
Now, based on everything that I've looked into and stuff that I had not seen before, because the Western media doesn't cover it.
It's not fascism.
Bibi Netanyahu caught off camera speaking about how he had no intention of following the Abraham Accords and how he was going to get around it.
He has, I believe, genocidal ambitions.
And that's enough.
We don't need to dispute, go backward or forward.
Do I think Bibi Netanyahu has genocidal ambitions against the Palestinians?
The answer is yes.
Thank you.
Now, let me ask you this.
What do you believe, what is your initial reaction to this?
What do you think?
Thank you.
Marcus says, she don't GAF what anybody says about her kudos.
Is that something you find admirable?
Do you think it's a good idea?
Now listen to me carefully.
Do you think it's a good idea for you to not GAF what people think about you?
Do you?
You think it's a good idea?
Is that admirable?
For you not to care?
I don't care one way or the other.
Do you think so?
Do you think it's important?
Do you think so?
Do you want your lawyer Your representative, your congressperson, do you want them, this is important, to speak and not GAF what anybody thinks?
Do you think that's good?
Would you tell your kids, I want you to go out there and I want you to remember, you say whatever you want and don't worry about what anybody thinks.
It's very, very important.
It's very, very important.
Like someone says, is being admirable the goal here?
Why wouldn't it be?
Do you think that's important?
Imagine that.
You understand this?
Backstrom Group says, I love Candace, but she's dead wrong on this.
Isn't that interesting?
This is very, very interesting.
And I love this.
Because people are...
It's fascinating.
Wow, you can't mention the project around here.
Nobody says you can't mention anything.
We're talking about it.
She has the right to her opinion.
Nobody's hiring her at the State Department.
Nobody says she doesn't have a right to her opinion.
Nobody's saying that.
If this were your daughter, or you, or, or if you were...
Plotting your career.
Do you say, this is the hill you want to die on?
And Prague says, you're outraged?
Not at all.
Because there's a lot about what she's saying which is 100% correct.
That's not the way I would do it.
This goes back to the Tim Pool thing.
Ask yourself, what's the most effective?
Hey, that was great what you just did.
You said it best.
Of course, nobody wants to hire you now, but...
But you were great.
I want to see this.
This is going to be very interesting.
There have been people who have said some pretty I think the most learned voice on the entire effort is Max Blumenthal.
100% without a doubt Max Blumenthal.
One 100%.
He never loses his, but he never, and he, Aaron Monte will use words in science.
I'm just curious how the distinction, I want to lead you with this, tell me not the correctness of this, how you say it, the way you say it, and what is Candace's goal?
Is her goal to make the point?
To save Palestinians or to establish herself as the lone void.
This is the woman who went out 100% full tilt when she was claiming that Gemala wasn't black or something.
I don't even know what the hell it was.
And that kind of went away.
Remember when she went to the home of the BLM head at the time?
And I don't know what happened with that one.
Then she and her husband were promoting Kanye West.
And Kanye kind of went nuts.
And then that went away.
And then she's, you know, she's also, she's enjoying her fame.
She's very good and very smart.
She just investigated.
She just invented, not invented.
She just discovered 9-11.
I think it was loose chain, she referenced.
She just noticed it.
So, And I just love this.
Extreme journalism.
Okay, it's good.
What do you think?
Now, who is against her?
Who do you think is against her?
What do you think?
Who finds what she is saying to be wrong?
Who doesn't like this?
I'm curious.
Who doesn't like this?
It's all about illuminating the truth.
Okay?
Now, you realize that, that what she is going to say, and other people, and by the way, Piers Morgan handled that one perfectly.
Have you ever heard Shmuldi Botiach go crazy against junk yogurt?
Remember, they were screaming at each other.
Remember that?
Who was right with that one?
Anybody?
Anybody?
Anybody remember that?
MSM doesn't like Candace.
Ah, who cares?
Nobody cares about the MSM.
Honestly, Pierce Morgan, this woman, they're all meaningless and soon they will be out of our lives forever mindless memories.
This woman, they are all meaningless.
I don't know what that means.
This woman, they are meaningless?
Oh, Tim Pool should have Nick Fuentes on the show.
Anybody that you tell me you can't have on, you know who I think is absolutely one of the most obnoxious people.
But you should have on, if it gets numbers, is that Andrew Tate guy.
Oh, can't listen to a second of him.
And if you can't see through that one, I told you about Gates.
That's okay.
Because listen, you want to watch something that gets your attention.
You don't care who's telling the truth or not.
Seriously, does anybody here give a damn about Palestine?
No.
Do you care about Gaza?
No!
Never comes up.
Not in this country.
And the question that was asked, what exactly do you care about?
What do you care about?
What does AIPAC do?
Tell me what they do.
Okay.
You don't want...
What do they do?
They primary you?
What happens?
Nobody can explain this.
They talk about their power.
They talk about how much money.
They talk about how much they've...
I think they, what, ran $100 million?
Hell, Elon Musk threw more, like $250 million, whatever, towards Trump.
Why don't we talk about that?
See, this is the thing.
We love somebody who stands up and accepts it.
Who doesn't back down.
We love that.
That's number one.
And we love somebody who's angry.
Nobody cares about a very simple...
Like Noam Chomsky, that ain't gonna work.
She has taken this thing personally.
Did you hear her?
There were people at the time who were...
Maybe it's just my generational thing.
There were times during Vietnam, Tom Hayden, Ellsberg, others, even Jane Fonda.
She wasn't yelling.
She wasn't angry about this stuff.
See what we are today?
We're angry.
But here's the best part.
There's a lot to what she is saying.
But here's the thing.
Number one, watch.
Watch what happens to the number of people who just go nowhere.
Hollywood won't budge.
Washington won't budge.
Nobody.
Oh, there's some niche people.
Judge Napolitano.
Mearsheimer.
We can go down the list.
Usual, you know, Oliver Stone or whoever.
Jeffrey Sachs.
Okay.
That's over there.
But in order, and that's in situ.
In order for it to move, it has to metastasize.
Outside.
Who do you think, who do you think specifically, who do you think is going to jump onto this?
Nobody.
The needle's not going to move.
This is one of the most niche targets.
Nobody likes this because nobody cares.
Now, I'm not saying it's not worthy.
It is worthy.
And if you haven't, I'm going to say it again.
I think there's so much of what she's saying which is 100% correct.
What's going on is deplorable.
You call it whatever you want.
I don't care.
You want to call it a Holocaust, a genocide, massacre, whatever works.
You worry about that.
But it's got to stop.
And our complicity with this and Ukraine has got to stop.
That notwithstanding.
Where do you think this is going?
Nowhere.
Nowhere.
Here we go.
Lionel doesn't understand passion and bravery.
Because he just wants to be popular and he's a coward in comparison to those who he criticizes.
Now, I don't know where that...
Again, you're not listening to what I'm saying.
Because you want to go for the ad hominem.
I'm asking the question.
I agree.
It's bravery is okay to an extent.
This isn't bravery.
This is trying to get an audience.
That's number one.
And passion is one thing.
It's okay.
Passion is not in the way you speak.
You see, what Steve thinks is passion is in your volume.
The way you present yourself.
Passion means, are you going to devote yourself to something for the next 20 years?
There are people who have been doing this.
That's passion.
They don't scream and yell.
There were Nazi investigators.
You know, the Elie Bissells and others and Wiesenthal's.
They never lost their minds.
They were passionate.
So again, you're looking at it from a kind of a 2024 point of view because passion to you.
Is elevated in terms of anger or volume or...
And that's fine.
When somebody acts like that to me, that's a sign that they're not in for the long run.
It's like watching a race.
You're thinking, this pace isn't going to work.
You're starting off too fast, too quickly, too out of control.
This isn't going to work.
No.
The question I'm asking you is, you've got to ask.
You've got to ask yourself this question.
Would you advise her this way?
Would you advise her?
The answer is no.
Pick the hill you want to die on.
And it's ultimately very good.
But here's the best thing.
The people in the country, I hate to say it, it's kind of a niche thing to an extent.
Americans don't know about the Middle East.
It doesn't understand about Houthis.
The Gate of Tears, the Bab el-Habda, they couldn't, most Americans couldn't tell you.
Hezbollah from Hamas, from Iran, from Al-Aqsa Brigade, they didn't know anything about this.
Nothing.
But it's something that she believes is very, very critical.
She believes this is something she wants to bet her career on.
I find it, that's fascinating.
Do we really know how true something is around the world?
Be skeptical.
Be skeptical with everything.
Oh, absolutely.
Let's take this fellow in Germany.
The ex-Saudi whatever it is.
What about him?
Is it Muslim?
He's ex.
What about that?
How do you know what to say about that?
He's ex-Muslim?
He's not a Muslim?
Is it about illegals?
I don't know what to tell you about that.
I have no idea.
I have no earthly idea what to tell you about.
So I just want, and this is a very, very important thing, and I want our friend before who thinks I don't understand passion or whatever it is, tell me exactly, what do you think?
What do you think is your answer for this?
What do you think is going to change with President Trump?
What should be done regarding Israel?
What should be done regarding Palestine?
What's going to happen?
Forget Candace Owens.
What do you think is going to happen?
People say, well, I don't know anything about that.
I just know about Candace Owens.
Okay, fine.
Well, what do you think about the underlying issue?
I don't know about the underlying issue.
I just like passion.
Okay.
Well, that guy on the corner on the subway platform screaming and yelling, he's got passion too.
What are you talking about?
What are you talking about?
I don't know, but I'm just doing...
What are you...
What do you think?
I don't know about this.
I live in a world where my framework is who's saying it.
Give me somebody.
Is it Fox News?
Is it CNN?
Is it Hannity?
Is it Jake Tapper?
Give me a name.
I don't know about the issues.
I know about the framework and the context.
That's all I know about.
That's all I know.
I don't know issues.
I couldn't tell you right now.
How would you handle this?
I don't know how to handle this.
I don't have an opinion.
Most Americans say, I don't know anything about it.
Why is it there?
What would you do?
What about the ceasefire?
What's going on?
Do you know about Bibi's own problems?
She says a lot that is absolutely correct.
Oh, and by the way, one thing you've got to understand.
You've got to realize that they're going to have to make an example out of her if the threat of AIPAC really means anything, they have to make an example out of her.
Prague says, Lionel, do you think the news...
Was any less propagandized in the 30s than now?
Very good question.
I don't know what you think.
Probably propaganda is a different story.
Was it more direct and honest?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Because during the 30s, there was a difference between news and commentary.
And they made the distinction, this firewall.
Today, nobody cares about that.
Nobody knows anything about the difference.
There was...
Remember, the intel state didn't really come in until after World War II.
It kind of started.
Yeah, there was Capra, and there were some propaganda.
But propaganda?
Pro-American propaganda?
Absolutely nothing.
Or not pro-American, but pro-Washington?
Not like now.
Also in the 30s, there was a little bit, believe it or not, less dissension.
We didn't have such seismic differences between Democrats and Republicans.
We didn't have trans activists.
At that time, it wasn't even the communists then.
It might have been anarchists.
It was a different country.
It was a completely different country.
Now, We love people to argue.
Steve says, I hope Trump can negotiate a win-win peace deal.
You're kidding, right?
Win-win?
Did you say win-win?
You don't understand how this thing works, do you?
I'm sorry, I don't want to talk about the passion.
Win?
I Win?
You want this to win?
You want somebody to say, win, win for us, win for us, win for Israel.
What about Palestine?
What about everybody wins?
What do you think?
See, this is one of the things now which is so important.
I like this.
Steve is very good.
Steve said, by the way, rather passionless, but those are the best deals.
That's a pipe dream.
That's a pipe dream.
One thing I love about Mearsheimer, which is terrific, is this notion of realism.
This idea that there's this, okay, we can work this out.
You want this, and you want this.
And you want this, and we're going to have a two-state solution.
Anybody think a two-state solution is possible?
Anybody?
Anybody think there's a two-state solution?
I don't know if this isn't passionate enough for you.
But is this, do you believe a two-state solution is possible?
Anybody?
Anybody?
No!
No!
What are we talking about?
No!
None!
It's like there's a fire and you're saying, what do we do?
We get out of here.
But what about the building?
We'll worry about the building later.
There's no two-stage solution.
What is this going to happen?
What are we going to do ultimately?
Did you hear what Putin said about the Israeli government in terms of being godless?
Are you seeing what's going on?
Are you following this?
Do you think Marco Rubio, that toady, is going to be able to negotiate the best?
Stop it.
Stop it.
Not even close, my friends.
Not even close.
This is...
Labyrinthine, to make it clear.
Prague, Jay Giza, thank you so much.
Have a wonderful day, dear friends.
Make sure you are subscribed to Lionel Nation, Lionel Legal, and and Lynch Warriors.
And remember, listen to what I'm saying before you get defensive.
A couple little things here I want to leave you with this.
Fontemus, Fontemus Fanto says, this show is a win-win.
You can super chat in a line and we'll read it.
Most shows do not.
That is a win-lose.
Super chat, my friends.
Do it now.
Thank you.
Well, some people, not only that, they don't even refer to anybody.
This is the book.
I love this.
Who cares and funds Hamas?
Do you think Hamas is a militant organization?
Do you think it's like the Black Panthers?
Where do you think?
You know who started Hamas?
Do you know who started?
Israel!
You know that, right?
When you tell people, what are you talking about?
You know where that comes from.
See, what we have to do here, I hate to say this, and I appreciate you, my friend, but How do I say this?
Without passion.
This isn't your subject.
You're asking questions that are so rudimentary.
It indicates a real nescience, a real grasping for the specifics of this.
But, in any way, I want you to remember this.
And I made a couple of little notes.
Number one, life isn't either or.
It's not Manichaean, especially politics.
It's not this or that.
No.
It's normally a blend.
Number two, I don't want balanced.
I don't want to hear the other side.
I don't care about the other side.
I don't know where this came from.
If somebody's saying something stupid, I don't want to hear information from them.
I want to know what they're saying.
I don't want to hear about the pro-trans group.
I don't want to hear that.
I'm not interested in that.
I have a core belief system.
And that never changes.
Also, history is critical.
If you don't know history, as in the case of who funds Hamas, you don't understand how this thing works.
You'll never know.
It's like you came in the middle of a fight and you don't know what happened.
You don't know who said what or when.
And also, understand history and understand the motivation.
Especially understand the people, the motivation of the people telling you what the facts are.
All right.
You have a great and a glorious day, my friends.
We'll see you tonight at 7 p.m.
Don't ever change.
I mean that sincerely.
And remember, until then, remember, the monkey's dead.
The show's over.
Sue you.
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