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Dec. 15, 2024 - Lionel Nation
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Jay-Z and Diddy's Cases Are Collapsing Especially After Latest Witness Speaks With NBC

Jay-Z and Diddy's Cases Are Collapsing Especially After Latest Witness Speaks With NBC

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What do you think?
Is that Lionel?
Say lots of light, though.
Ziggy, ¿qué pasó, chicos?
¿Cómo anda con los pies?
Right.
He's not quite learned Spanish yet.
Nor neither have I. It doesn't even matter.
How are you, my good friend?
Bastante bien.
Y tu?
Y tu?
Comiendo mierda, as we say.
Y trabajando mucho.
We, by the way, let me tell you something.
As we speak, if all of a sudden some death ray or something is...
We are awash in a swarm in drones.
And I have had...
We're talking about Project Blue Beam and everybody's going nuts!
And here's the best thing.
Remember this, Sean.
You too, Ziggy.
Pay attention.
Here's what people will not say.
I don't know.
They can't say this.
I don't know.
Oh, no.
This is what we're being sent up by what you call your CIA.
It's a soft push.
And they're just making...
We don't know.
I'm loving this being a purveyor stirring the pot, so to speak.
But this is something which is a perfect analog to what we're saying about Giddy.
We don't know anything.
We don't know anything.
But people are just making this up.
This is the end!
The end of what?
What are you talking about?
How about this latest one with Jay-Z?
Autistic, 13-year-old?
I don't remember.
I got hit on the head.
Oh, man.
Did they talk to this person?
Did they ever meet with this person?
Did they, by the way, should we know anything like you're autistic?
Not that there's anything wrong with it.
Even Ziggy knows.
Is there anything wrong?
Were you hit on the head?
Are you freaking nuts?
And we're going to get to all that.
Aw.
Yeah.
Aw.
Cherish those moments, because one day he's going to hate you.
I know.
This is my six-hour live, and Ziggy has just broke into the room, because he can open doors now, and he's trying to get right...
He's trying to...
He's trying to...
He wants me to go play with him, don't you?
Elon has X. You've got Ziggy.
I think it's a great thing.
I think it's wonderful.
Ziggy.
And one day, Ziggy, your daddy's going to need diapers too.
He's getting me.
He's getting me.
You're getting me, my friend.
Right, I'm going to give him back to his mum.
I'll let you introduce yourself to people who are not familiar with your brilliant work, Lionel, but I'll be right back.
This man is out of control.
Do me a favor.
Call the authorities right now.
I don't know who he is.
I don't know what he is.
He is a complete and total fraud.
I'm in contact right now with local UK authorities to find out specifically where he is.
And if this child is being held against his will, I don't know who he is.
I think he's part of some kind of a strange cult.
Fancies himself as an expert on the underground.
But in any event, when he comes back, I'm going to go like this.
And when that is, that's our safe word, okay?
That's the safe word.
Normally it's sentiment, but that's too hard.
There he is.
He's coming back right now.
So anyway, as I was saying, Lionel Nation, do me a favor.
Sign up right now, okay?
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If Einstein came along and he had 15 subscribers, nobody listened to him.
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She gets two million.
She knows more.
That's where we are.
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All right.
Let us look more deeply, then, into what you were just saying.
So...
We have got the NFL backing up Jay-Z, which I thought was a sign of they're not all going to run away from him right now.
They're going to support him.
Run away from what?
The NFL.
The NFL's got more freaks and perverts.
How about LeBron James?
All of a sudden, he says, I'm going to step away from this.
Hollywood?
NFL?
NBA?
FIFA?
The whole world's full of complete and total freaks?
Sean, I don't want to ruin this.
I love you, man.
I love you, man.
I love you, dude.
But they got nothing!
Diddy's wondering, what the hell are they holding me for?
What is this?
And this is, and you know, and...
When Jay-Z comes along and says, this woman's crazy.
Oh, yeah, sure, right, buddy, right.
Then what did we hear?
Yeah, I'm autistic.
I don't remember.
I got hit on the head.
The guy I said was with me wasn't there.
And remember, it takes one of these things and all they do is they say, oh, is this another one of those 13?
Listen, I don't mean to make fun of autistic.
I'm not doing that, okay?
But is this another 13-year-old brain-damaged autist?
Is that what you're talking about?
And then they're going to start going after the lawyer.
They're going to say, did you...
A lawyer has to pledge some good-faith belief that, yes, I, you know, vetted this woman, and I thought, but what?
It took one call to NBC?
She doesn't remember anything?
So the whole thing goes...
I mean, it looks like a dog.
And so remember, they're going to say, oh, is this another one of those?
And Busby's going to say, would you quit bringing that up?
I got 120.
Did you vet the rest of these like this?
What did you do?
Just have people pick out a coupon at a store here.
Do you want to be a...
Here, just send it in.
And how do I say this?
How do I say this, Sean, without pissing people?
You don't even know what I'm saying, and you're shaking your head.
A lot of these people are a bunch of morons.
A bunch of these people are a bunch of subliterate morons who hung around getting juice out of their mind, gassed out of their wax, gooned on every kind of drug you can imagine, wanting to...
And then later on, they're going to say, I was victimized.
And they're going to say, great, put them on the stand.
Nobody's going to understand what they're saying.
Because you were terrific.
Because I know, I've seen you interview people, and I knew from the look in your eyes, you didn't know what the hell the guy was saying.
Some people say, and I don't want to be in front of me, I don't want to write.
He said, really?
Is that correct?
Fascinating.
So, are you saying that perhaps maybe there was a connection between maybe?
He said, dude, come on the right.
Okay.
Scott, could you help me with that?
I don't know.
Imagine a jury sitting back saying, I don't even know what happened.
I don't even know what happened.
And sometimes, I swear to God, I love you, man.
I love you.
Anybody who tunes in, because I've had people, and you know what your show should be called.
Sometimes you should be called, what the fuck are they talking about?
I've heard people say these things.
I'm serious.
I love this.
And people will make points of profundity.
And you've got to ask yourself the question.
Is proof enough to liberate the mass of deceit?
What the hell are you talking about?
And you say, really?
Or are we going to do this?
The actor's like, we've been doing 10 hours of this.
And he claims, he claims, he claims, he claims the screen.
He's frozen.
He doesn't know what the hell they're talking about.
I can see one day I'd like to thank members of YouTube for this honor.
I wish I knew what I did.
I don't know.
I don't know who these people are.
We get them off the street sometimes.
I've got Jeffy Momo 7 who talks about deceit and subterfuge and this labyrinthine gibberish.
I don't know.
They seem to like it.
They have no idea what he's talking about.
And I'm the depraved criminal?
I don't think so.
Lisa's saying, I hope Sean went to pee before the show because I predicted Lionel making him pee.
Lisa, this is hour six for me.
I've not peed.
I might disappear at some point.
But Monique is saying, Lionel, Jay-Z's accuser allegedly was driven five hours by a friend who's now dead.
Isn't that interesting?
And her father doesn't remember the incident.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
Your witness?
Your witness?
Now this is his accuser?
What did they...
Put it this way.
Imagine the people who didn't qualify as an accuser.
Imagine this group.
I'm sorry, you don't have the requisite.
Well, what about her?
Well, yes, the accuser is dead and she is autistic and hit over the head and suffered brain damage, but you're even worse than that.
This is...
Let me tell you something.
It's...
And I don't...
I don't mean to laugh about this, but I just hope Busby understands this is...
He's going to be like a verb.
They're going to buzz be.
Don't buzz be your case.
You know, he was buzz bead.
Where is this?
If you have a call, 800-5...
Who are these people?
We don't know.
Many of them are anonymous.
And now we know why.
I mean, listen, again, I'm not trying to make...
But this case is a dog.
And it's not getting any better.
You know what I'm saying?
It's not getting any better.
But couldn't it be, Lionel, that they interviewed that girl for a long time and they cherry-picked and put out things with an agenda of obliterating her as a hit piece?
Well, you mean, well...
What do you mean?
I'm sorry.
You've got to help me out with this.
Who?
Say they sat down with Jane Doe for an hour at NBC.
Who was they?
You mean the news organizations?
Yeah, yeah.
Say they sat down for an hour and they put out a few minutes of select clips that highlight the inconsistencies and left the rest out.
Isn't that what they've done here?
Could very well be.
Well, first of all, how did they even get this anonymous person?
How did they get to her in the first place?
Why would she even...
Huh?
Madness.
It's madness that she spoke to the media.
I don't understand this.
And all I know is, whoever, Busby or whoever the people, they're thinking to themselves, oh my God.
No.
Because remember, listen, there are some cases, unfortunately, where...
Let me give you an example.
Let me give you an example of something.
This is a good one from a plaintiff's point of view.
A while back, in the state of New York, they extended the statute of limitations for this.
But they said, from now until next year, any case you want, from any period of time, regarding anybody, just bring it on board.
And they opened.
There was one guy who had, I mean, I don't even know where he is right now.
He must...
If he has 10,000 cases, I have no idea.
And they just went to insurance companies and said, look, it's almost like a class action.
They just said, look, this is it.
These are our limits.
The parish is out of business.
These people are dead.
We're going to bankrupt the parish.
Okay, and those are kind of easy because there's just so many of them.
They're not going to sift through.
They're going to say, look, let's just make some omnibus deal.
Ten million from St. Aloysius, that's it.
Figure it out.
Those are effective.
That's not the case here.
You've got 120 or so, each one.
What are you claiming?
And I'm wondering, the prosecution, remember, we've had a change in the Department of Justice.
Now it's under President Trump.
The prior administration, and why a...
Biden Department of Justice would go after this guy and charge him.
I don't understand.
Remember something.
Go ahead.
Question from Jay.
Hi, Lionel.
What do you think the outcome will be of all this?
Do you think a lot will just be swept under the rug and Puff will be an acceptable person now and the other stars will walk away?
I think that once...
Once the funk, the fetid, feculent, rancid funk of unfair sticks to something, you can't get it off you.
And people are just saying, oh, for the love of God.
Compare this to O.J. Simpson.
Every night was another story.
Another.
It was great.
And then there was this civil case.
Yes!
People were fascinated.
Just fascinated by the case.
Here you have this...
All we have is Cassie.
Okay, we've seen this.
It's like the Zapruder film.
Enough!
Yes, we understand this.
But we don't know anything.
We have this ditty, and then there's nobody else.
There's numbers.
120, or they, we don't know who they are.
So there's nothing for people to grab onto.
There's nothing for people...
To connect with.
So consequently, the public is going to lose interest.
And when the public loses interest, then guess what happens?
They start making deals and they say, all right, look, you know, we think in the interest of justice, to keep these people from having been, to relive this, we're going to make some, with their consent, we're going to just, you know, whatever.
I mean, even Ghislaine Maxwell, look at her.
She's going to make...
They made a deal with her.
Sit this out.
Keep your mouth shut.
Your parents will not be suffering some accident.
And somewhere in some bank account, somewhere on some Cayman Island, whatever, you will be...
There will be a cryptocurrency in your name only.
So just sit back, go through this, give us our pound of flesh, move.
This is a different story.
This is a different story.
So this next question pertains to a guest we had on two days ago, Ryan Mia, who has a very strong case and claim of being Jay-Z's son.
He's been in court for 10 years, and Sarah's asking, Can a judge make Jay-Z take the DNA test?
Well, put it this way.
In many cases, yes.
Especially when there are claims made.
We had a case years ago.
There was a fellow who alleged Bill Clinton sired this child.
I don't even know where that went.
Normally speaking, especially when you have mothers with children, And child support issues, the skids are considerably greased.
After the fact, and let me also tell you something, one day, when DNA becomes more prolific, when all of these little one, two, three, and me, and all this stuff becomes, when it becomes more acceptable, you're going to have knocks on the door all the time.
And people are going to say, Daddy, who are you?
I'm your son.
So the answer is, ultimately, if there's a claim of paternity, it's very interesting, by an adult who is claiming...
It's one thing when you're this mother and you need support.
That's an interesting question.
But I would think my instinct would be, sure, ultimately, if you have some...
Some establishment?
Some declaratory judgment?
You have some claim to an estate by virtue of, you know, whatever.
But remember, also, in an American probate and inheritance, a parent can write you out of a will anyway, so you can't compel.
You can't compel.
Let me show you how bad it is.
There have been cases where men have supported And accepted their children.
They said, this is my son, my daughter.
Turns out later on, after testing, they're not.
And the parents still, the father still has to pay.
Because he has established, even though, not technically, he has established a connection.
And he's claimed paternity.
Even though perhaps maybe fraudulently, even based upon something completely different.
So it's a very interesting thing here.
But you've got some 40-year-old kid or whatever who says, you're my father?
Uh-huh.
Okay.
So what?
What does that mean?
You know, would Sally Hemings and the Hemings family be able to go after Thomas Jefferson, our third president?
I mean, you know, there's also certain things called laches, where so much time elapses.
Pre-accusatory delay, constitutional speedy trial, I know those are in a criminal context, but there's this idea of, come on, time has gone, quiet the titles, you know, enough is enough.
It's a very interesting question, but wait until these DNA, yes, that is, you are not going to believe what happens now.
Claudia?
For Lionel, does the US have legal mechanisms to stop publications from reporting on people's private lives, such as super injunctions in the UK?
You know what?
We have not...
When you say that in a private life, the first thing is, is it truth?
Is it truth?
Is it true?
What I'm saying, is it true?
That's number one.
Number two, there is some states that have these I think Delaware was one of them, our own, where Hunter Biden was even using this as a cause of action, which provides for invasion of privacy, whatever the hell that means.
But other than that, unless I'm doxing you or doing something that's predatory, if it's real, we have a very simple rule.
There's no defamation, there's no anything, if it's true.
If I go on the air and I say that you were known for, in fact, were a part of this thing where you made a kind of a paste out of brine shrimp, lathered up your nether region and squatted over a goldfish bowl repeatedly, and it's true!
You might be embarrassed to no end, but it's true!
So, that's our thing.
You cannot get in trouble for publishing the truth unless it's national security.
There's some other prohibition that we haven't spoken of.
Do you remember the Busby TV ads on TV in the 80s?
No.
Not no.
It doesn't seem to be that old enough to have...
Well, it's 40 years.
Yeah, I don't think he's...
Yeah, maybe there's another ad.
I personally, I despise...
TV ads for lawyers.
And we have a First Amendment right to them.
I understand this.
I despise them.
I think that it's so tawdry, so cheesy.
But then again, people have to know, how do you do this?
Are you injured?
Do you want to be injured?
Would you like to be injured?
And I injure you.
Have you thought about being injured?
And there's another thing too, when there's champerity and maintenance, these are prohibitions where I can't solicit business.
I can't solicit.
But what we have in our country, which is so funny, we have an investigator, for example, that goes down to some jurisdictions, goes down to the police department, right?
Gets all of the accidents.
Dear Mr. Atwood, we are so sorry for you and your horrible...
It's a fender bender.
You're backed up, you hit somebody.
We're so sorry for the negligence and the...
Intentional infliction.
If we could ever be a Vinnie system, call us.
That's not soliciting.
It's a sympathy.
And then it says advertising.
I mean, it's really, it's like, I was a, you know, so I always err on the side of the First Amendment, but it's really tawdry.
Paula wants to know, with so many cases, isn't it likely that even if only half of them are solid, Diddy is not getting out.
However, Jay-Z is being brought in.
It's likely they have more on him.
Agree?
More on what?
What is it that we have?
What do you think?
There's these three cases we heard this past week from other lawyers regarding other people.
There comes a point when you become so overwhelmed with the new allegations, you say, enough!
Enough!
Okay!
That's what you don't want.
You don't want people to say, oh, for the love of God, would you please?
And when Jay-Z comes out and says, he's very good, if he says, what would you do?
Is this, and he hasn't brought race into it, but what is this?
What do you say?
What do you say?
Let me give you an example of something.
There was a case one time.
Whenever anybody is accused of something this disgusting, you look guilty.
And what they do is, I had worked in a case years ago where it was involving a judge.
And the judge did nothing wrong.
But there was a question of whether the judge...
And they took a picture of the judge crossing the street with a telephoto lens.
And the judge was like this.
He looked guilty.
He was crossing the street.
He looked like he's a...
Like he's just this furtive movement by virtue.
They look guilty.
Once somebody...
You know it.
You know it.
If somebody looks at you and they say...
You know, you know about that.
Well, they got the whole Mopry thing, the thing with the Brian Shroom.
I know it!
Doesn't he look like it?
Who does it look like your worst?
He looks normal.
That's the way they are.
They look normal.
He looks like a freak.
Well, of course he looks like a freak.
No matter what, you look...
It's weird how people respond.
Except, I don't know if you have this in your country, but when we have some...
High school teacher who's young and relatively normal, who apparently has her way with some young boy.
People are like this.
Oh, wow.
Versus a man is some defloration of a girl.
Oh, my God.
Hang this, son of a...
So it's a reaction.
If you ask people, if I said, let me give you a story.
Here is the story.
Okay, here is a story.
The story is that a 13-year-old girl at a party, at a post-event, don't give too much away, as she was brought in, and the following defendants, here's the Jay-Z, the young Jay-Z, where he looks like this.
Then there's the new Jay-Z with the dreadlocks and the thing, and then you got the Jay-Z, and then you have another person.
Let's say we have, oh, I don't know, Taylor Swift.
Aww.
Or maybe Snoop versus John Mellencamp.
I have no idea.
Each person evokes in you a different response based upon the same allegations.
It's the strangest thing.
For example, what do you think would make a better story?
The Italian mob or the Polish mob?
It's the same story.
The Polish could be worse.
People react to things in a different way.
Now, what I think is going to happen is that they, let me give you a little background.
We had a mayor here, Rudy Giuliani, who was the greatest mayor New York has ever had.
He has basically been disbarred from every, he went through a whole thing because they say, you never checked and you never thoroughly investigated the validity of the claims of Election denial.
And this was reprehensible.
You brought a case to court that was so...
Is this?
Is this?
Is this the new standard?
You brought a lousy case to court?
Okay.
Anyway, if the momentum starts, if Jay-Z's lawyer starts demanding from the bar associations and you violated disciplinary rules and you didn't vet this and you...
And then that starts a momentum that will do, and that I think is going to come next, because it was so successful in this case involving the Trump case.
So they're going to now say, I'm just anticipating that this was not vetted, that he is, you know, you've got to be very careful when, you know, lawyers cannot cross-examine Their clients to the point where the client...
And there's some things where some client may say, look, I don't really remember.
I don't remember.
I'm not really sure.
But I do have this brand that says Jay-Z on me where he branded me.
What?
That's a different story.
I don't remember when it happened, but I've got this brand here.
Or I don't really remember, but I've got the video.
What?
That's a different story.
But when you've got somebody...
And I'm going to say something, and I'm not trying to be...
I'm not trying to be cruel here.
But you're going to have a lot of people who are saying, wait a minute.
If there's some chance...
Do you know the hangers-on?
When you're in the world of Diddy or Jay-Z...
And you go to the parties, and pretty soon you say, I recognize that person.
That's the same girl.
You kind of know each other, and you talk to each other, and you know what I mean?
And then you say, well, you know, if there's some money there, I was at those parties for years.
You're on the phone.
You know who's suing who?
Jerome, or Jerry, or whatever, Mary.
Let me call him.
Are you?
Well, I shouldn't see him.
Call Buzz.
He's good.
Why?
See what happens.
Because you were, weren't you there?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Go ahead.
Now, what's a lawyer's duty?
To sift through the facts?
Yeah.
But is there a chance there might be some exaggeration?
Perhaps.
Outright lying is a different story.
But once you start smelling money, and they start talking to you, and if I said to you, hey, listen, that one, tell them they submitted you to some eyes wide shut Kubrickian nightmare, some dystopian thing, and the weirder, the better.
The weirder, the better.
Because it's when weird, if I say, and he made me wear an owl suit, And somebody's saying, really?
It sounds weird.
Like, oh, I know he did stuff.
Who's going to sit there and the jury might say, oh my God!
Owls!
What are you talking about?
But when you start hearing this thing, and remember, every case hears, you understand the theme of it.
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, this is a case about...
About the depredation, about the disgrace, the defiling of a human being in a world of people so detached, so that people are their pawns.
They're their instruments of lust.
They don't care.
They're inhuman.
And you came and said, well, I walked out with a pair of boxer shorts, dressed up as Clement Attlee, and I had to yell, Lafayette, I've arrived!
That's it!
That's the kind of stuff.
Who's going to question that?
So I'm serious.
It depends upon how is this thing perceived?
And if you look at Jay-Z, and now is Beyonce not using the Carter name?
I don't know if that makes any difference.
But then again, let me switch it.
If all of a sudden Jay-Z says, so is this what happens?
When you get to be too big, is this what happens?
I don't want to bring race into it, but if I say, is this what happens when you're a black man in this country?
Make too much money, get too powerful?
Is this what they do?
Is this what happens?
Is this open season?
Biggie and Tupac, they're dead.
They'll kill you.
They'll rip you off.
They'll take everything.
And then when you get to be too big and you do everything that Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, and everybody from Charlie Chaplin and Jack Nicholson, what they did, I've heard stories about it.
Is that it?
Is this open season on us?
And if you can make people say, you know, there's something to that.
And there is something to that.
I don't know if you remember this.
Remember Lawrence Welk?
Did you ever know?
Lawrence Welk was like my grandmother.
Champagne.
It was his big band.
They looked like the nicest people.
Guy Lombardo or, you know, if you found out they were Satanists, you would think, oh, come on.
This guy's got a little bow tie and he's playing a clarinet.
Come on!
But if I said to you Iggy Pop or if I said...
Marilyn Manson, you say, exactly.
Same, same, the same, and that theme, that feeling you get.
Just like in the United States, when you have a mafia case, L.C.N., La Cosa Nostra.
You got Joey Bagadona, Vinnie Boombats, Vinnie Lugatz, Vinnie, Vinnie the Nose.
Val de Ciccio from the Gambino.
Oh, wow.
I know that the Sopranos and yeah, as opposed to the Chinese Triads.
They don't look so bad.
They're worse.
The Albanians?
They play chess.
Who are these?
The Russian mob?
But the Italians?
The Sicilian mob?
So, don't think for a moment.
Don't think for a moment.
That's something that doesn't lure prosecutors to bring in the case.
It doesn't make settlements bigger.
But the moment it twists, the moment...
See, Americans are funny.
We know BS better than anybody.
And when somebody's being taken advantage of, and we say, alright, that's enough.
I mean, that's enough.
You know, please.
It's like even O.J. Simpson.
First day he was acquitted of this.
Then they brought him with a lawsuit in Santa Monica.
Then later on, he eventually did time for trying to steal his stuff back and he went to prison.
And I know people who hated O.J. Simpson said, would you leave this guy alone?
Yeah, but he escaped justice.
But enough!
I said, what do you mean enough?
Charles Manson, would you leave him alone?
You know, and I can't tell you.
When people feel that.
I can't tell you what the sense of...
But there's a...
Remember when Hugh Grant had his way with that...
Lady of the Night?
Yes.
What was her name?
Anyway.
People...
He came out and he was...
Who was it?
He said, what were you thinking?
And they looked at him like...
And he was very good about it.
He said...
Brilliant!
Of course, nobody was hurt.
But look how he handled that.
Look how people...
Remember when Pee Wee Herman...
Pee Wee Herman was...
You know who Pee Wee Herman was, right?
He lost his career because he was found pleasuring himself in an adult theater in Florida years ago.
Pee Wee Herman!
It's an adult theater.
It's not watching on Golden Pond.
You know, he's not, you know.
So he came out.
This is this kid's icon.
I can't do this little voice.
So he comes out right in...
I mean, Ricky Gervais would have had the nads this guy had.
He came out in front of everybody after he was arrested.
And everybody's doing Pee Wee Herman jokes, and he says, so, heard any good jokes lately?
And won them over.
We said, it's all forgiven.
And I don't know what happened.
I can't tell you the genius.
So with Jay-Z, Diddy, I'm not so sure.
Diddy, the other day, they were busting his balls over the fact that he gets what kind of pie he's getting for Christmas.
He's not convicted of anything.
People are saying, Why does he get to pick what kind of Christmas pie he wants?
What the hell is the matter with him?
He should get nothing.
He's not convicted.
He's being held.
He's presumed innocent.
This goes to show you how stupid Americans are.
They don't even understand the system.
He didn't do it.
He's not convicted.
And they wanted to kill him already.
There we go.
You don't remember that?
I remember him with a strange voice.
Yeah, he was all Rubens.
But this is when you own something.
Let me give you an example.
This is something for people to remember.
When you're caught red-handed, admit it.
It kills people.
Let me give you an example.
Years ago, there was a show called West 57th Street.
It's not on the air anymore.
And there was this phony baloney faith healer.
And the amazing Randy supposedly caught him in the middle of one of his phony baloney faith healing things.
And what they did was he would go out into the audience and he would say, I feel that you are here because you have sugar, diabetes, yay, in the name of Jesus.
Well, anyway, at the time, his wife had been out in the audience before saying, what are you here for?
Well, I've got sugar and I made it.
And so she, he had an earpiece.
And they interpreted it.
They intercepted it and said, third row over.
Guy with the vest.
He has a phlebitis.
And you have been called by the Lord.
You have phlebitis.
Oh my God!
So anyway, they said, would you sit down, Reverend?
He goes, I certainly will.
And they're watching the monitor and he goes, Is that your voice?
Yes, ma 'am.
And is that your wife's voice?
Yes, ma 'am.
And is your wife telling you exactly what's wrong with these people?
Yes, ma 'am.
So, it's not real.
No, ma 'am.
Okay, and they wrapped up and they went and he said, well, I told you.
I admitted it.
Yeah, but isn't that wrong?
Like I told you.
And there was nothing there.
And I wish Jay-Z would say, and in a weird way, and I can't do this, but if Jay-Z said, do you know what it's like being me?
Now, I want you to think about yourself.
20 years old.
You're 20. 20, 25, whatever it is.
And you are not loved.
There are people who will give you...
Parts of their body and their soul just to be in the same room with you.
You are, for all practical purposes, you're just a kind of a nobody.
But through some luck of the draw, and women are throwing themselves at you.
Men have lost their minds over women that don't even like them.
But you have, which one do you want?
There are people sneaking in.
And I'm supposed to sit here and say, okay, just a minute.
Thank you.
Did you show your ID?
Yes.
Okay.
Did you stamp your hand?
Did you get the wristband?
Okay.
She's been checked?
Okay.
Do you have the references?
Okay.
Did you take a blood and urine test?
No, it doesn't work like that.
You go into a room, the room's dark, and you're drunk because you're the biggest thing in the world.
You're huge.
They love you.
Men, women, and there you are.
Now, children, absolutely not!
I don't need this!
And have people say, do you know what it's like?
That creates, believe it or not, Sean, a sense of almost admiration.
Tell us again.
Oh, let me tell you this story.
And they don't set you up for this.
If I brought Mick Jagger in here, if I brought Paul McCartney, anybody, actors, Liam Neeson, anybody, you don't know what it's like.
It's another world.
I'm not a predator.
They come to me.
I've got security to keep them away.
Not to get them.
I don't have people going out getting them.
So if you create this, and then what happens is, then I wait for somebody out there who figures, wait a minute.
This son of a bitch.
I can tap into that.
I'll tell you what.
I understand that there's these people.
You know what?
He did that to me.
Who's going to know?
My word against this.
Hell, there's 120.
121 isn't going to kill anybody.
And if you think that's far-fetched, and if I can create that feeling to a jury, where they think to myself, this is ridiculous.
There were people out there, actual predators, going into schools.
They're not wasting their time with me.
No.
Diddy is in lockup deciding whether he wants the plum pie or the mincemeat pie.
You're going after Diddy?
When you've got people who are trafficking in kids?
We have, in our city of New York, a half a million kids.
Lost.
My wife at Lynn's Warriors on YouTube talks about un...
These, quote, unaccompanied children who were brought in, and I've got to be careful with the words here, traffic, just like...
Transported.
Transported.
Say transport.
Transported.
Transported.
Moved.
Yes.
And this, we've got cartels.
We have fentanyl poisonings.
We have now car fentanyl.
With amounts of lethality that you can't even see.
So what is the federal government doing?
Is it going and stopping that?
No!
It's going after Diddy!
And Jay-Z!
You've got an objection from Paula.
Okay.
How the hell does this guy know what goes down at Diddy's freak-offs?
Well, if you listen to what people are saying, and by the way, You do know that there's what we say now, and then there's what we say, because we know all these stars who were there and the women that are there.
We know all this stuff.
But the thing is, they're going to say the same thing too.
Of course.
This is, let's just call it Hollywood.
Are you kidding me?
Do you want to know about, you wouldn't know this, Clara Bow, Douglas Fairbanks, Charlie Chaplin, Clark Gable.
There was a case of this fellow Scotty Moore.
Scotty is somebody who talked about when he was just out of World War II, he was a Marine and he was in Hollywood.
And it was a free-for-all.
Spencer Tracy!
It was wild!
Now, I wasn't there.
But do you know what happens in the world of rock and roll?
So, look.
And my favorite is, were they at the Diddy Party?
Do you know how many people were at Diddy Parties who didn't do anything?
Just like at that fellow whose name begins with a letter E. You know how many people went to those islands and said, I don't know.
There were kids there.
I don't know.
There was no bacchanal.
It was nothing.
People are losing themselves in their own scrum.
Drew's asking if the 13-year-old Jane Doe case is a plant to confuse the case.
I love this.
You know, I love this.
You're saying, I'll tell you what, so you're thinking that maybe Jay-Z or Diddy's lawyers would say, let's throw in a ringer.
You know that 13-year-old autistic that got hit in the head?
Yeah, send them over.
What do you mean?
Just, you know, I mean...
See if he slips through.
Hey, Jay-Z, what happened?
He signed up.
The 13-year-old hit on the head?
No.
Yeah.
Hit her?
No way.
Yeah.
Show me.
Show me.
Oh, look.
She signed up.
Here's the agreement.
He signed her up?
How about this?
The one who thinks he's a werewolf.
The lycanthropy.
See if the guy who thinks he's a werewolf.
Send him over there.
Jay-Z, what?
You're not going to believe it.
No, not him.
I swear to God, look!
The guy who thinks he's Lon Chaney?
Yeah.
Listen, I think he's doing the dots.
I think he knows, and he's like a double ringer.
I mean, this is...
I love the conspiracy.
It's not a conspiracy, but people will out.
And I love when they say this, you know why they're doing this, don't you, Sean?
For a distraction.
That's my favorite.
It's a distraction.
What do you mean?
They're trying to distract you.
Why do they want to distract you?
I don't know.
You don't know what it's like living in New York when we have drones.
You can't believe what people are saying.
And I'm sending out...
By the way, I have a newsletter.
I think you'll get it.
I'm sending out Project Blue Beam.
Have you ever heard this?
I know we're changing the subject.
If you want to spend some time on putting up a hologram...
As the Antichrist.
It doesn't get better.
And I'm sending...
People say, I know it.
I know it.
Wait a minute.
A hologram of the Antichrist?
Yes!
And mind control?
Yes!
So, you and I are supposed to be the nuts?
We're supposed to be crazy?
We can say...
There are people who...
And they always think the most bizarre...
Labyrinthine.
So they threw this 13-year-old autistic with the brain damage in.
And then...
Now, meanwhile, Jay-Z right now is sitting pretty good at this moment.
What's the screening process for these people coming in, then?
Do you have a heartbeat?
Do you have a heartbeat?
Yes.
Thank you very much.
You can watch it and go...
All right.
How do you spell that?
Look what he did.
Look what Jay-Z did to this son of a bitch.
Look at this.
Can't even speak.
He was a genius.
He was a Shakespearean scholar.
Now he's drooling on him.
Sign him up.
Hold this.
Who is this?
Who is this?
Can you point?
Is that Jay-Z?
You're in.
You're in.
You are in.
And then later he says, excuse me, did you not realize it's the trauma?
Don't you understand that?
This is the reverse memory.
The more traumatic it is, the less they remember.
What?
Seagull, doesn't the Cassie video stand up as evidence of character?
Character!
Especially considering how he handled it.
Also, didn't he continue freak-offs up until his arrest?
First of all, I don't know.
Who is this?
Seagull guitarist?
I want you as my juror, if I represent the family, doesn't this in any way stand up?
He beat the hell out of Cassie!
What does that have to do with anything?
It goes to show you the disrespect he has for humanity, and anybody who is likely to do that and cover it up, dragging her out, kicking her, punching her, is likely to transport and to, you know, what?
And by the way, character?
Character is a...
In terms of evidence rule, it's a real...
Character is more of reputation evidence.
Are you aware of Mr. Atwood's reputation in the community for peacefulness?
But character?
No.
And there's also relevance.
And my thing is that what...
The first thing I'm going to do is, either in a motion in limine or some type of pre-trial motion, I'm going to say, we're not going to see this video.
The video has nothing to do with him.
His beating up a traffic cop years ago in a DUI arrest has nothing to do with this either.
People make so much...
It was horrible to watch, but I kept saying, what does this have to do with anything at all?
And he settled it right away.
My bad.
And like I said before, admit it.
I'm bad.
I admit when I did something wrong.
I settle.
I'm not settling this because I didn't do it.
If I'm wrong, I admit it.
I did it.
So, see, it works in his benefit.
Connie's wondering whether Busby's just throwing noodles at the wall to see what sticks.
Well, you know, again, I don't know.
Remember, Mr. Busby, I have no idea.
He's got a wonderful reputation.
So I'm just, like you and me, sitting back and thinking, there must be something we don't understand.
There must be something we don't understand.
There's no way that somebody who is ostensibly this, you know, bad as a witness.
But then again, but then again, we have not seen this person for a moment.
And you may look at this person and say, oh, you know, I kind of feel sorry for her.
And then you say, well, you know what?
Rather than she's making it up, this is what they target?
So you can work the other way around.
It's not like she's making it up.
It's just she is this poor soul that perhaps was victimized.
I don't know.
But that's not the way the press is going to hear about it.
That's it.
All you want to do is you want to be that person.
How do I say this?
Once it sticks, that is the bad case.
That's the one where the 13-year-old got hit on the head, right?
Once that becomes part of this, then it just destroys ultimately the focus of this.
That's what they're afraid of.
In fact, I love Spiro.
Jay-Z's lawyer says, We're going to dismiss it right now.
That's it!
He'd waste no time.
Everything!
We're going to just dismiss everything.
And I don't know if a court can say, well, we're going to throw everything out just because this may be a bad witness, but we're not going to have a mini-trial.
The court's duty is to say, have you pleaded enough, have you alleged enough to get us past the preliminary aspects of this?
We're not going to have a mini-trial to determine credibility.
Because a jury could say later on, I don't care what you say.
I believe her.
I feel sorry for her.
It may work to his...
This person may show up, obviously, as we say in the South Bronx, shingad, and the jury looks at him like, oh my god, you sick bastard!
You say, no, I didn't!
You don't know!
But it's looking good for him.
You know, as we always say in politics, if the election were held today...
Well, if the trial were held today, it's looking okay.
This Jay-Z thing is not...
Let me stop right now.
If somehow he goes bye-bye, Diddy's going to say, what about me?
This is the same...
And you can say, no, no, no.
Diddy's a criminal case.
It's the Southern District of New York.
It's different.
This was a civil matter.
To the public, it's one big thing.
And once they, this is my thing, I would say, do you realize I would love to stand up in front of everybody and have a statistic.
If I'm on TV and I represent Diddy, then I'm going to say, I'm going to show you some statistics.
The Department of Justice has only X amount of people.
Every year their caseload is this amount.
And of that caseload, 10% go to such and such, 10% go to this.
There are approximately 12,400,000, and limited people, limited FBI, limited Department of Justice, good men and women, determined career prosecutors to bring about justice.
So who did they spend their time on?
This guy.
This guy.
Now, I'm not saying it's not important, but a federal case?
Normally, in the old days, people would say, there used to be a joke in drug court, federal drug cases involve amounts you either need a forklift for or those you don't.
If you don't need a forklift, we're not interested.
We're not interested in some nickel and dime.
So federal court always had this sense of, it's the worst of the worst.
That's why the guy with the letter E...
That case was so, they didn't even charge him with anything.
They didn't even charge her with anything.
It was like they prosecuted, but in this tepid, anything but full-throated, you know, attack.
Sharon, Lionel, how much credibility will be taken in court once victims have shared information publicly?
It depends.
Because, and you see, that's always the illegal answer.
It depends how that's going to come out.
If you can show bias, for example, Mr. Atwood, yes, you've suffered quite a bit, yeah.
Mr. Atwood, you've been on, and correct me if I'm wrong, sir, 7,500 podcasts since this happened.
Do you remember this one here?
Is this you on the Down and Dirty whatever morning show?
Is that you?
Yes.
Is this you?
Is this you here laughing?
And you've signed a book deal, have you not?
And you've secured the agency relationship of William, not William Morris, but really.
So you're, and by the way, this is okay because this shows bias.
This is proper impeachment.
So you're really enjoying this, aren't you?
And you've been on so many shows, and this is important to you, is it not?
Because if for some reason, Mr. Carter or Mr. Combs, if they're found either not guilty or acquitted, there goes your career.
So you're not going to do any, and then you imply to the jury, they're going to make this stuff up.
This Atwood fellow, he's not going to ruin this golden goose.
So that credibility?
Oh, absolutely.
And they have to take the stand.
Let me ask you a question.
And I'm so glad this next, Monique asked the question.
This Jane Doe business.
I hate this Jane Doe business.
Jane and John Doe.
I can't, look.
Here's when it matters.
Children in family matters.
Divorce.
Kids who take the stand.
Clear out the courtroom.
Absolutely.
Do everything to accommodate them.
Sometimes they even record.
Sometimes they've had There are cases where a child could be in another room so the child sees a monitor.
We have something called the Sixth Amendment, and that's the confrontation clause.
You have the right to confront your accusers.
That's given leeway.
When Jay-Z has his name, and they always have Carter, it makes it sound like he's a mob person.
Sean Coleman, a.k.a.
Puffy, a.k.a.
Diddy, a.k.a.
Slim Diddy, a.k.a.
Pitty Diddy, shitty Diddy Bitty Pitty.
It makes him sound like he's hiding.
Like he's a part of the Lugatz family.
It seems like it even has this aura, this specter of subterfuge and criminality.
He's hiding.
It's just a nickname.
They don't say Sting, a.k.a.
Gordon Sumner.
They don't care about the Bono.
But he has to put his name up there.
And this Jane Doe, who's what, 37 years old?
You're wanting to bankrupt this man.
And you get to hide because of what exactly?
He doesn't get to hide.
How is that fair?
How do we do that?
Now, I understand there's got to be a balance there.
And I understand sometimes as well in criminal cases where there's a confidential informant or there's secrets.
Okay, fine.
But this Jane Doe business, because I think it's important for people to understand that we are providing this forum.
And we as a society need to know who's claiming what.
Especially when somebody's alleged to have been 13 at the time, autistic, and perhaps brain damage.
I think we have, because our system is, we don't want to have a star chamber.
We don't want to have stuff going on saying, what are they doing in that courtroom?
We have, part of our Sixth Amendment, the right to a speedy and a public trial.
And the public ensures that we get to know this.
Now let me ask you a question.
I don't know what the rule is in the UK, but do you have cameras in the courtroom?
I don't believe we do.
We don't have them in federal court.
We don't have them in the Supreme Court.
We don't have them in federal court at all.
State courts, we do.
We have state and federal.
I am so ambivalent in this that I don't even know.
But the thing is that I think we should know what's going on there.
They're doing it in our name.
Our system enforces it.
We provide this stage for you to go after Mr. Carter and others.
I don't want to make this too American legal-centric, but there's a lot of stuff I think is just profoundly unfair.
I'm Googling it now.
I've got cameras in courtroom in the UK.
But loads of people are asking.
How the hell did this interview come about?
I know.
How did NBC find her if she's a Jane Doe?
I know.
Oh, I want to know that one.
Now, then we get into this.
Do we subpoena the person from NBC?
How did you get a hold of her?
Excuse me, I have a First Amendment.
I have a journalistic privilege, which isn't really a right, but they're going to claim you can't ask me that.
But I want to ask the same question.
How did you do that?
And also, put it this way.
The person who should be asking that is Busby, not Jay-Z.
Jay-Z is happier than a pig, and you know what, because he's thinking, this is terrific.
Oftentimes, the media will do work for you.
The Crown Court Recording and Broadcasting Order 2020.
Allows cameras to film sentencing remarks in some high-profile courts, including the Old Bailey.
However, only the judge can be filmed, and no other court users are allowed on camera.
Authorised broadcasters such as Sky, BBC, ITN, PA must apply to broadcast the remarks, and the judge in each case decides whether to allow it.
What are your thoughts on that?
I'd like to see everything.
They're doing it in your name.
They're doing it in your name.
We had a...
Do you ever hear of a fellow?
We had a serial killer named Ted Bundy.
And Ted Bundy, I remember the first time I ever saw it, it was every night we saw the Ted Bundy case.
And people had never, they never saw a case.
It was the most illuminating thing in the world.
And people have said, yeah, but the lawyers are going to camp it up.
Okay.
But lawyers have camped it up just because people are watching.
I've seen one time, I've been in a court having a trial, and there's nobody watching because it's not that important.
But somebody walks in, and we have people, because our courts are open to the public, you can watch them any day you want.
But people would come in, and as soon as somebody would come in, the prosecutor's defense would all of a sudden put on an act because somebody was watching.
Say, well, that's human nature.
The thing about it which I even ask is, how do I make you whole?
Let's assume that you've lost an arm in some accident due to my negligence.
Am I really?
Are you going to be happy?
I'll give you a million bucks, but is this really?
I mean, what do we think this is?
There you go.
By the way, that's a million you get.
40% for me, because we went to trial.
So you get $600,000.
Oh, minus the expenses, and I had to hire all these experts.
That comes off the top.
So you're going to end up with, you know, whatever.
Do you feel better about that?
Do you feel better?
What about defamation?
How do I make you whole?
If I said, Sean Hotwood is a moperer.
All right, that does it.
What exactly happened?
Mr. Atwood, were you defamed?
Yes, I was.
Did you lose any business?
No.
Did you lose any friends?
No.
Did your marriage break up?
No.
Were you fired?
No.
But I was hurt.
I was defamed from the opprobrium.
What are we doing half the time with defamation?
Can you really defame anybody today?
Is anybody ever really hurt?
Seriously?
I mean, we live in a world of shocking horror.
Is anybody ever really so defamed, so defiled, and so hurt that they're unable to...
No.
I mean, we do, but we're so demented that the attention brought to the defamation makes you famous!
The worst thing you do is to be ignored in this country.
The worst thing you do is to be anonymous.
The worst.
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