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Dec. 11, 2024 - Lionel Nation
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Prosecuting A Cold-Blooded Killer RadLeft Hero
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These are the most incredible times we have lived in in years.
Let me just tell you something.
If you have ever watched or thought you enjoyed watching trials and things like that, you have never seen anything as fascinating as the Luigi Mangione case.
We have that.
We have, listen to this, drones in New Jersey.
Now let me explain something to you.
When I say drone, what do you think of?
You think of a little, one of those little, You know, HD drones fly around and maybe to take pictures.
Those little ones, you know.
These are the size of cars.
And somebody put the word out, they're Iranian.
Do you believe that?
Now, if I didn't know better, when I heard Iranian, I'm thinking, now wait a minute, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
There's a word for this.
What is it?
Oh yes, bullshit.
It sounds like, now who would want to spread Iranian as being the cause of this?
Who would want us to think there are motherships, there is Iranian, there is an Iranian infiltration from Iran as in Tehran?
Who would want us to think that?
Who would benefit if we turned all of our anger towards Iran?
Who?
How would that happen?
Who would benefit from that?
Think about that.
Is there a country?
Is there a people?
Why would we want...
Who would say...
What does Iran want to do with everything that's going on right now?
Okay?
Right now.
They're going to say, wait a minute.
We want to fly over New Jersey.
We want to fly over New Jersey near Trump's what?
Iran?
Now, this has not been validated, verified, but if you do not If you cannot see this, come on!
And let me tell you something.
You're going to have a Secretary of State who's going to say, yep, that's right.
That's right.
Those people, they're Iran, Iran, Iran, Iran, Iran.
Iran?
I don't want to live in Iran.
They're not my friend.
I don't know what this beef is with Iran.
That ain't my problem.
That ain't my problem, and it's not yours.
And if you can't see what's happening, we're being played for a chump.
All right?
Stop it.
I don't care what you do with other people, but please.
Number two.
Mayorkas and these people won't answer any questions.
They won't even answer a question.
Well, we have no...
I mean, nothing.
Nothing.
Nothing.
Nobody's saying anything.
There's nobody running the ship.
So we've got that.
We'll talk about the latest involving Luigi.
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Okay, my friends.
Let's talk about the latest in terms of Luigi.
Now, let me explain something to you right now.
I want to not let this drone thing go by.
They are not going to tell you anything.
Just make sure we understand this.
Watch the Pentagon.
Mayorkas is in charge of Homeland Security because they're following Coast Guard ships.
They're going around Bedminster.
Nobody is saying anything because they are done.
Ray is out of the FBI.
They're moving on and they're saying we are waiting to let you absolutely enjoy the you-know-what hitting the fan.
Okay?
Okay.
Now let's talk about the latest.
The latest.
I love this story.
And I want you to finish this.
I want you to help me because many of you great folks are experts in know a little bit about guns.
I do as well, but...
I always defer to my friends and see if you can bring us up to speed on what's going on here.
And remember something.
Before we begin, let me ask you to remind you of something.
I want you to think of what you would be doing if you were a juror.
Not, not if you are a policeman.
Okay?
Remember what I'm trying to tell you.
I don't care what you think or what you would do or what you think as a policeman.
For example, who did it?
There isn't anyone here.
I mean, does anybody here seriously doubt that it could be anybody but Luigi Mangione?
Wait a minute!
Spandex has something to say.
Spandex says...
The day before the CEO was dispatched, the Jadrools would have castigated the likes of Luigi Bag of Donuts as a rich, privileged Ivy Leaguer.
Now he is a hero.
Oh my, oh my, have the worms turned.
Absolutely.
Do you think that somebody would have...
I don't know.
I don't know.
But let's start off with this.
Category 1. Is there anybody here who honestly thinks...
It could be anybody but Luigi Mangione, as people say.
My friend Mark Simone sells like an Italian restaurant in Long Island.
Mangione, right?
Anybody here?
I like when somebody like Gracie says, I got a phone call.
Missed the beginning.
Okay, Gracie.
Thank you.
I don't know what that means, but thank you.
Anybody here?
Anybody here think?
Seriously.
Anybody here?
Is anybody here?
Be honest.
Somebody's going to say, oh, no, it's somebody else because I looked at the eyebrows.
Okay.
Just like they said, that Epstein feller, that's not him because I looked at the oracles, the ear folds, and I'm an expert.
No, no, no, it's him.
No, no, it's not him.
I saw the ears.
You always get these folks, no matter who they are.
Okay?
Is there anybody, honestly, Anybody?
Anybody?
No.
He did it!
Come on!
He did it!
He did it!
Hello!
He did it!
Could I represent him?
Sure!
Absolutely!
He did it!
Because I like him?
No!
He did it.
Can they prove it?
Ah!
Can they prove it?
Ah!
Now let's just sift through this.
You've got a lot of information.
Let me read the latest story to you.
And are you getting the newsletter?
Check your spam.
My spam is another universe.
Sometimes I'm looking at spam and thinking, Well, that's where that is.
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We always have this one sock.
I don't know where it goes.
It gets up in the middle of the night.
Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Stan Lippman joins us.
Three James Fields, two Chargers in Charlottesville.
Okay.
Three James Fields, two Chargers in Charlottesville.
Thank you, Stan.
Clarity?
Is not all that it's made up to.
Thank you so much.
Okay.
So, number one.
Let me read this to you.
You're going to love this.
And this poor woman, Tish, our police commissioner, she used to be in charge of garbage.
She was a sanitation person.
She went to Harvard and all that, but that doesn't mean diddly squat.
Diddly squat.
Believe me.
This is trial law, and these people couldn't try their way out of a paper bag, okay?
Now, the ghost gun, this is a story from Altoona.
Isn't Altoona a funny name?
It sounds like some place you would go in the old days, like vaudeville, like, we opened up for you in Altoona, you know.
The ghost gun, allegedly in Luigi Mangione's possession in Pennsylvania, was matched, now listen to me carefully, to three shell casings recovered in Midtown.
This is according to Jessica Tish.
Tish the dish like Tish James.
Okay?
Did you hear what I just said?
They matched.
Now, let me start off.
Shell casings.
Excuse me.
Hi.
Counsel for Mr. Mangione.
Would you clarify that, please?
You mean the bullet, the round?
No, the casing.
You mean the brass?
You mean the shell?
Yes.
The casing?
Yes.
What about the bullet?
Well, I don't want the bullet, but the casings match.
Well, how did they match?
Well, let me read this to you and you tell me.
She also confirmed fingerprints recovered in New York City have been matched to Mangione's in Pennsylvania.
Well, this is from ABC.
The fingerprints recovered have matched to Mangione's in Pennsylvania.
How about saying, They match him, not Mangione in Pennsylvania.
Because his fingerprints are the same in Pennsylvania as they are in Wyoming.
This is such poor writing.
In any event, this is from ABC7.
ABC7.
Quote, first, we got the gun in question back from Pennsylvania.
Did you really?
Yeah, we got it back.
Okay.
Listen to her way she speaks.
Yeah, we got it back.
Could you send us that gun?
Appreciate it.
It's now in the NYPD crime lab.
We were able to match the gun, listen carefully, to three shell casings that we found in Midtown at the scene of the homicide.
Wait a minute.
Match the gun.
To three shell casings.
She also said we were able to, our crime lab, to match the person of interest fingerprints with fingerprints that we found, both on the water bottle and the kind bar, the whatever bar, that was found at the homicide in Midtown.
Okay, so let me get this straight.
Here's a gun.
You got the ghost gun.
Now, a ghost gun is printed, laser printed, you know what I mean?
Okay.
Not laser printed, I'm going to say 3D printed.
We don't know whether there's any kind of rifling, probably not.
So even if you got the shell, the actual round, you know, there's the shell and there's the bullet.
In the shell, you got the gunpowder and the primer and all that jazz, and it shoots the projectile, the bullet.
Many people look at the...
The whole thing is the bullet, but it's the shell casing, the brass, so to speak, and the bullet.
Okay.
Now, the casing that you found in there, what does that mean?
Did they say deny, depose, whatever?
Is he stupid enough to write those words on the rounds in the magazine?
Of the ghost gun?
If it's a 9mm, is that how they match?
Like, the same caliber?
Found a 9mm shell?
I don't know if this, if he used it, I guess it was a semi-automatic, if it ejected, if the brass, you know, flew out, and hey, there's a 9mm, I don't know what this means!
It's not good when you have a press conference and you're trying to guess what all this means.
It represents the first forensic tie between the murder of Brian Thompson and Mangione.
Among the writings recovered from Mangione in a spiral notebook were plans concocting how to eventually kill the CEO according to...
How to eventually kill?
When were they written?
So he was planning?
Does he know he's dead?
What does that mean?
What is the significance of that?
I don't know.
It's a manifesto.
What do you do?
You whack the CEO at the annual parasitic bean counter convention.
One passage allegedly said.
Okay.
Is that enough to get him convicted?
Circumstantial evidence.
We'll talk about that in a moment.
The notebook also references the Unabomber, but the writings also said that using explosives could risk innocence, so he had a heart.
Detectives are still examining his writings, but are considering the contents of the notebook to represent a confession?
If that's a confession Thank you.
Is that it?
Earlier Wednesday morning, the defense representing Mangione said he has seen no evidence linking the client.
Okay.
Adding that a lot of guns look the same.
Don't, don't, don't go there.
Don't go there, please.
I have not been made aware of any evidence that links the gun that is found on his person to the crime.
So these are things that we're looking to see, said Thomas Dickey.
Today's another day.
Now, let me tell you what I would say.
Let me tell you what Uncle L would say.
Number one, I would say, first of all, I'm not here to tell you anything.
We're pleading not guilty right now.
Not guilty.
99.99% of all cases, from traffic tickets to murder one, you start off with not guilty.
Why?
Because if you plead guilty, the case is over.
Duh!
So that's it.
I ain't gonna tell you anything.
It's their story.
You ask them.
I'm not gonna tell you what my client said.
I'm not gonna tell you what we said.
We're not saying anything.
It's up to them.
There's this thing called the Fifth Amendment.
We're not saying anything.
Nothing.
It is a right that we are going to utilize.
And we're gonna do it...
Most passionately.
And that's it.
So you ask them.
Don't ask me for any questions.
It's their story.
It's not my story.
It's theirs.
But I want to know this.
Let's talk about some things.
Okay.
Let's talk about the shell.
I've got a shell.
Now I'm trying to figure this out.
You would think Tish would have told us what this means.
The casings match, okay?
Is the particular firing pin, the way it hits, on the shell casings that were recovered at the scene?
Let's assume this little cap is a shell casing, okay?
Imagine this is made of brass.
And here is where the firing pin hits.
It might have a unique, I don't know, maybe off-center or whatever it is.
It might have a particular design.
Is that what you meant by my...
That's not exactly ballistics.
We'll get to this in a moment.
Next, did he have in the casing, in this weapon here that you recovered?
Did he have that?
Did he write that on the...
Is that what he meant?
I think you would have told...
Wouldn't you say this?
Hey, guess what?
Inside?
Inside that gun we found?
Guess what he's got written on the side of the shell case?
Guess.
Guess.
That's right.
Three unique words.
Depose, deny, whatever.
Isn't that interesting?
How about that?
Okay.
Now, I want to know the round that they took out, I'm sure.
And pathology took out a round, you know, the actual bullet inside the body, the head, I'm sorry to say this, of Mr. Thompson.
And you look at it.
Was there any type of rifling?
Was there any ballistic mark on it or anything?
Do we know?
Do we have any idea?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Does it leave it?
I don't know.
I could guess.
I can give you one.
If he did it, if he didn't do it, I don't know.
But I'm going to sit there and I'm going to tell this guy.
Now listen.
First thing, I want a room that's absolutely not wired.
Not wired for sound.
You notice how nobody is sending the FBI in to help?
DOJ's not involved in this.
You don't say, you know what?
This is a federal matter.
This man traveled across state lines to kill...
No!
They're not interested.
If he adopted a squirrel, that would be a different story.
They would be all over this.
If it was Fred the Squirrel or whatever it was, oh, they'd be breaking the door down for this one.
Oh, no.
If it were January 6th, oh, you would have had...
People, you would have had phones and, oh man, pinging.
They're not doing this now.
And guess who's going to prosecute this?
Alvin Bragg, the worst!
Maybe he'll get that Daphna, that creepy-looking dame who scares the hell out of small animals and kids.
Maybe he'll get her again.
Maybe she wants to do some restorative justice.
But you notice how the DOJ says, Normally they say, excuse me, we're handling this.
This is a federal matter.
This guy, he guns down a multi-million dollar, a CEO of a healthcare?
If this isn't 30 different federal offenses, I don't know what is, but they're not interested in that, huh?
How about that?
They're not interested.
Does that seem odd to you?
Cobb says casing could refer to firing pin impression.
As I said, Cobb, as I said so.
Karen Peterson says the FBI as an agency is mute.
And, dare I say Karen, moot.
Moot.
One time we were in court and the prosecution, normally when you said, Your Honor, we stand mute.
Meaning, we're not going to say anything.
They said, we stand moot.
I said, okay.
Maybe.
But isn't that something?
You're on your own.
We like this guy.
Good for them.
Good news, Luigi.
They're giving us this.
We're going to extradite you.
Oh, they're going to extradite your ass.
Don't worry about that.
And Dickie's hanging on for dear life.
What are you going to do?
Fight extradition?
I don't think so.
But he's going to go through this whole thing.
Extradition is like a waste of time.
Listen, you know what I'm saying?
You work for it.
I'm going to enjoy Altoona in the meantime.
Spandex says, my 32...
My 32 years with a New York City first responder agency, crime scene unit, I could tell you about horror.
Maybe over an IPA.
Could be.
Oh, I've seen some horrors as well.
Especially with head wounds.
It's a unique thing.
The head's a funny thing.
It's this bowling ball filled with blood and goo and it's really something.
And depending upon the percussion and oh my god.
Sometimes, it's very interesting, the results are very...
You want to see some horror?
Look what's going on in Syria.
That'll get your attention.
So anyway, here's what we're going to do.
So I'm going to tell you, Luigi, number one, you're not going to say anything.
Do you hear me?
Under no circumstances, you're not going to say anything, you're not going to write anything.
You're not going to hum anything.
You're not going to talk out loud.
Are you one of these people who talks out loud?
You notice a lot of people do it.
They go, what the hell is going on here?
What's the best of this?
I don't know, but they can't do this to me.
I see this all the time in stores.
So what the hell, the size is it?
What am I supposed to get this size?
I don't know.
She told me 32 ounces.
Is this the large?
I don't know.
She told me.
And people talk to themselves.
I don't do that.
But they do that.
What the hell is going on here?
You're not going to do that.
Next, if somebody comes in, he's a plant, he's a stooge, he's working on charge, you're not going to talk about anything.
Because what they're going to do is, they've got Miranda.
They can't talk to you because we've told them not to, but they're going to send somebody else in as an agent.
They're not going to say anything.
You're going to sit back.
And let me tell you something, my pal.
Don't even expect to see daylight for maybe never.
Alright?
That's it.
Bottom line, Louie, is this.
You're not looking at the death penalty.
The good news is it is New York, and we're going to probably put most of our energy, believe it or not, in the sentencing part of it.
But you know what?
We might have some good time with the trial, because depending upon if I can get the right amount of people.
You see, I've learned something from you.
You find people will hang on to something.
That is of no relevance whatsoever.
But you'll say, wow, that's weird.
Well, so what?
Yeah, that's really weird.
One time, I told you this, there was a I always joke about why is there always a shoe?
There's a like a shoe.
You ever see a shoe like in the street?
Like, one shoe is like, where's the other shoe?
What happened?
Well, anyway, I always thought it was funny.
So one day I was looking for something, and it was a case.
It was all done.
It was a homicide.
No big deal.
I'm talking to the guy.
The guy planned it was done.
It was finished.
And I'm looking at this picture.
I said, well, I'll be damned.
Look at that.
There is a shoe.
I wonder where the other one was.
And he looked at me, and he said, I don't know.
I said, I'm just kidding.
His case is over with.
He planned.
He goes, So he went back and he still had the house or the place kind of secured.
He said, I can't find the shoe.
I said, I can't.
He goes, but it's the damnedest thing.
I said, I don't worry about it.
So anyway, every now and then you'll find something odd.
It's the weirdest thing.
One time there was a fellow who I looked at his picture and I tried to configure myself in the front of a car.
My car.
How he was found behind the wheel, I do not know how.
What was the...
How did he get like this?
You know, you're behind the wheel, boom, you know, you shoot.
This guy was in a contorted...
Did they put him?
It never made any sense.
So people were seeing me like, I'm going like this.
Are you okay?
Ah, that's okay.
I'm just doing the...
So there's always something.
You folks go nuts over the fact that...
Did you notice that Muhammad Atta...
They found the Muhammad Atta, the passport?
Yeah, it wasn't even singed.
How is it supposed to be found on the ground when it's in a plane, that 9-11?
What does that mean?
I don't know, but where did that come from?
So what does that mean?
I don't know.
Does that mean that Germany did it?
What does that mean?
Does that mean that Dick Cheney's involved?
What does it mean?
I don't know.
There's a great guy who's a, who does, he's a great Kennedy kind of a historian.
And he always does the same thing.
And Tippett, I always give Tippett.
Tippett, it was a 45, it was 38, not 45. And Tippett, this guy is spelled with two Ps versus one P, and he took in the boarding house, it was not her, it was Marina.
But Marina wasn't there on Wednesday, she was on Tuesday, and how could he get to the biograph?
When the Lady in Red and Dillinger and Van Heflin, and he goes through this stuff, and it's like, what does this have to do with anything?
I don't know.
But I just want to show you how much I know about the facts.
Oh yeah?
That was Schmendrick Dubitsky.
Schmendrick Dubitsky was the fellow who didn't ride with Oswald, but sold him the curtain rods.
And then you lose yourself and go, what are we talking about with this stuff?
Who killed him?
I don't know who killed Kennedy, but I know that Schmendrick Dubinsky and Tippett took the bus!
Remember, the only thing you have to know is simply this.
This is a watch, this is a clock, this is the windshield, alright?
This is the windshield of the cars going this way.
Oswald's back here.
They've got a bullet coming in this way.
And they took the, they replaced The windshield and fix it.
Send it to the dibboard.
That's where you start.
Everything else, tip it and all this.
Okay, now this one here.
A lot of people are going crazy about this.
They ask all kinds of questions.
Well, why did he take the bus?
Why didn't he do...
I don't know why.
Well, why...
So why did he take the bus?
I don't know why.
We're going to be asking questions.
And a lot of things I don't know.
Why did you...
Schmuck, why did you write all this down?
I don't know.
What possessed you to put into writing everything on your mind?
Remember, if you're going to do this, you're going to figure out, I'm going to hang out a month.
I'm going to just hang out where nobody's seeing me, nobody's looking at me, and he goes to a McDonald's.
I'm not going to go to a McDonald's.
Not only that, you're going to love this one.
I was talking to somebody today.
We were on Lionel Legal doing a live.
It was very interesting.
One guy said, you do realize that one of these big installations, these big chains, they take the information and all of the information or the live feed of the people and they put it on a cloud server and facial recognition.
I said, schmuck, don't you understand what happened?
Some guy was in there and said, I think that's the guy.
Call the police.
That's it.
They didn't need any face recognition.
None of that stuff.
None of that stuff.
Let me ask you a question.
If you were there, if you said, don't look now, but I think that's the guy.
Would you have called the police?
Yes or no?
Answer my question.
Would you?
Would you have done that?
Would you have done that?
Be honest.
You say, hello?
Yes.
My name is Shelby?
Yes.
Shell, S-H-E-L-L-B-E-E.
Yes, 22. Yes, that's me.
And I did it.
That's him, all right.
Could you define harboring a fool or fugitive?
I certainly can.
Nobody's harboring anything.
Would you do this?
Hello?
Yes.
My name is Louie Lagazza.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes, I'm standing outside.
Can you put my picture on it?
That's it.
Louie Lagoza.
Yeah, that's him.
Yeah, I think that's the guy you're looking for.
Yep, that's him, all right.
They got him.
The eyebrows.
Yeah, where are you?
I'm at a McDonald's in Altoona.
I know, it's hard to believe.
What do you think?
Would you?
Yeah, come on over here.
By the way, yeah, about that money.
50, was it 50, then $10,000?
Okay, $60,000?
Yeah.
Okay.
Jenna Marie calls us.
Absolutely.
Jenna Marie says money.
Here's what I do.
Hello?
Yes.
Listen.
Is there still that...
And of course, they're running, you know, they can run, they know where the call is coming in.
Is there still that reward?
Yes.
Okay.
I'm going to give you some information, but I want you to understand something.
I don't want to give you my name.
Because you're going to put my name and I'm going to have all these Antifa people driving me crazy.
So I'm going to give you a code, alright?
BR549.
You know that one, alright?
Junior Samples and also Hank Williams.
And I'm going to give you that information.
So when I call you back, only you know this and I know this.
Because I'm the guy who calls up.
You got that?
Good.
So when I call up and say, yeah, I was the person who called up you.
How do I know?
BR5.
That's the guy.
Okay, good.
So can you Venmo me that?
Yeah, I don't want to meet anybody.
It's just like if you win the lottery, I'm not going to stand there with a big cardboard.
No, no, no, no, no.
You got that?
You got that?
Spandex says Sean Atwood had Charles Bungie on JFK.
Really?
Maybe we should go watch that now, Spandex?
Do your best revelation.
Hope I did not miss it.
Very interesting.
Do your best revelation.
Hope I did not miss it.
I don't know what that means, but thank you.
I don't know what this means.
In any event, I love you.
But I love when people say, you know, I was watching this other show.
It's on now, as a matter of fact.
You probably want to go see it?
I just want to let you know there's this other show.
This guy's very good.
Okay.
Just want to let you know.
I like to go to restaurants today.
Excuse me.
Yeah, listen.
There's a better steak place up the street, half price, and they got a better selection of this.
Just want to let you know.
Okay.
I love you, man.
I love you.
Busting your balls, that's all I'm going to do.
I don't know if I want to turn people in.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I really, I really, not because snitches get stitches and all that stuff.
I really don't.
I can see that now.
Oh my God, I'm going to be on the witness list and then they're going to see me.
Well, how did you know?
Oh God.
Well, there was a, I mean, am I going to be a part of some preliminary hearing?
I hope they're going to, you know, say, well, what was your probable cause?
Well, the probable cause was a citizen called up.
Who was a citizen?
BR549.
Oh God.
I don't know.
I honestly got, I do not know.
But you could do this.
Hello?
Yeah.
Listen.
That guy you're looking for?
The killer?
Yeah.
He's at the McDonald's in Altoona.
Click.
Forget the $60,000.
I did my job and I'm out of here.
I don't even want to get, you know.
That's if you want to do it.
And they're already my favorite.
Are you ready for this?
In Yelp.
To show you these rat bastards, these demonic Democrats, they're giving the McDonald's in Altoona a 1 rating on Yelp.
A 1. Who rates a McDonald's?
Hey, we're going to go to Mickey D's?
Hang on a minute.
Hang on a minute.
Which one is this?
Is this the one on the Flagler?
Yeah.
No, no.
They got a 1 for service.
It's a McDonald's!
Hang on.
You know, 5 miles away, there's a 2. Let's go to that one.
Stop it!
They actually were...
These kids are so freaking stupid that they thought that they're going to really...
I'm going to show you.
We're going to give you a one.
And the poor franchisee is like, what am I supposed to do?
You got a killer on the loose and they pick up the phone?
Come on!
For the love of God.
Alright, stand by for one second.
Listen to me very, very carefully.
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Anyway, so we're getting the cards.
Have you folks noticed fewer cards?
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Okay.
Now, let's talk about something else.
How about that Kimberly Guilfoyle, huh?
Poor thing, huh?
You're going to be the...
You're going to bring up with me?
Listen, Kim.
We're supposed to get married.
I know, I know.
You know.
Can I keep the ring?
Of course, keep the ring.
Well, that's interesting.
That's interesting.
If you break up a...
How do I say this?
If you cancel a wedding, does she keep the ring?
Who gets the ring by law?
This is a big deal.
It's so axiomatic.
It's very simple.
It goes back to the guy, whoever gave it, because it was a conditional gift.
It wasn't a gift absolute.
It's not like a birthday gift.
This is, happy birthday, here you go, steak knives.
There you go, they're yours.
Rings are different.
This is a condition.
This is conditioned upon getting married.
If you don't get married, give it back.
Okay, fine.
But they're probably going to say, keep the ring.
But Don, I know there's a girl, she's young, I'm sorry, socialite, whatever the hell that means.
But listen, good news, you're going to be an ambassador to North Korea?
No.
Saudi Arabia?
No, no, no.
Iran?
No.
Greece?
What?
I know.
What do I do?
Nothing.
It's beautiful.
Mykonos?
Who knows?
Maybe the guy over there?
Just go.
Okay.
Did you see when Don Jr. even says congratulations to...
What cojones this guy's got?
Unbelievable!
And congratulations to you, Kimberly.
Way to go.
Get me out of the country?
Dad, can you help me out with this?
Sir, she's busting my balls.
I know.
Can you get it?
And you know she's on the phone.
Hello, Gavin.
Yeah, it's me, your ex-wife.
Remember me?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's Mrs. Ambassador, Mrs. Ambassador to you.
Listen, Gav, hon, keep me in mind, I know you're going to be running in 2028.
I think this will work out.
I might want to spill the beans right now.
But believe me, I got a lot of dirt.
And not only Don, he talks in his sleep.
Donnie, the whole Trump family.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, are you kidding me?
Oh, God, yeah.
Oh, oh, oh, absolutely.
So just keep that in mind.
You want to keep her happy.
Can you imagine her just unleashing a woman scorned and all that stuff?
Not even funny.
Now, question number Pilgrim Media says, this is your best stuff, LOL.
Well, thank you, Pilgrim.
I appreciate that.
By the way, you mentioned harboring a fugitive.
Nobody's harboring anybody.
That's called an accessory after the fact.
And a lot of states, I think Florida had it, you're exempt if you're a family member, where you can, you know, if you're, I mean, if your son or daughter is on the land, of course you're going to, you know, help them out.
So there might be some kind of familial type of exemption for that, which is kind of good to know, I guess, in any event.
Now, here's a question.
Should he get the death penalty?
Yes or no.
Because he's not going to get it in...
Remember, in New York, it's second degree murder.
Second degree.
There's no murder won unless you kill a cop or a prison guard or first responder or something.
And we haven't had death penalties since 2004 or something.
So it could be 15 years.
He's not going to be...
It's probably going to do...
Anyway, do you think he should get the death penalty?
Anybody?
Anybody believe in the death penalty?
Anybody?
Any death penalty fans here?
Come on!
You love the death penalty.
Come on!
If this doesn't qualify, nothing does.
Premeditated?
Dear God!
Is this...
I mean, this is incredible.
I like this.
It's so funny.
Just Rhonda says, Yikes.
Late again.
I have to start from the beginning.
We get a lot of...
I like the way you always...
You're wonderful.
You say, oh, I was on the phone.
And you always tell us what you were doing.
Oh, I was in the John.
Did I miss anything?
Oh, I'm...
I'm no death penalty fan.
You know, but if ever there was one...
This is it.
This is it.
This guy, he's like a serial killer, but one.
If he did a couple more, he'd be a serial killer.
This is...
Serial killers don't put enough premeditation.
This is...
So, I'm not a big person.
A big death penalty person.
The thing that I find interesting is, and this is so interesting, today Elon Musk hit $490 billion.
I mean, he's the richest man.
He's got more.
And he's Trump's BFF.
I think you know what that means.
And he has single-handedly changed the entire texture of American politics like nobody's business.
It is incredible.
He has changed everything.
Every one of the nominees, most probably, is going to get through, including Matt Gaetz, including I think Tulsi, Bobby Jr.
I'm sorry, not Matt Gaetz.
Hegseth.
Gaetz said, I'm out of here.
Gaetz probably could have maybe hung on a little bit.
I think Trump said, eh, eh.
Pam Bondi's going to do a great job, but Gaetz, he's the only one who's kind of dropped out.
He's probably thinking, now, why did I drop out?
Because Hegseth said, I'm not going to do that.
Hegseth said I was nominated or accepted commission to West Point.
He said, no you didn't.
Today he says, I sure as hell did.
Here it is.
I mean, this guy is, you know.
Do I care about Hegseth?
Excuse me, compared to Millie and the other guy?
Come on.
With your...
Swishing around in their LGBTQ trance.
Are you kidding me?
Hexit is better than that?
No.
No, we need somebody just like that.
Spandex says, McDonald's hamburgers for life.
That's a life sentence.
Well, maybe.
Very funny, Spandex.
Very, very funny.
Nelson A. says, Uncle L, did you miss my super chat?
Yes, I did because I didn't care for it.
No, I'm kidding.
I did miss it, and I apologize.
Let me see where it is.
It says, here we go.
Uncle L, time person of year, President Trump, thought it would be Camila.
No, no, no.
She is so bad.
What was that?
Oh, it's got to be.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
By the way, did you see Jill?
Jill Biden?
Jill was just laughing.
She said, joy!
And she's just laughing.
Also, Fetterman.
When we first met Fetterman, this guy couldn't talk.
He was drooling all over himself.
He had to have a special machine because he couldn't read anything.
He was.
He was as we say in West Napa.
Now he is as clear as a bell.
What happened?
Whatever they did to him, give it to Biden.
Oh, Biden's just gone.
But it's an incredible recovery.
And I like him.
He's on Truth Social.
The Democrats are there.
Oh, and today you see this.
Rachel Maddow's numbers are just non-existent.
She lost, what, half of all of her viewers?
It's gone.
It's done.
Johnny Mazda Spaz says, regarding the drones, is Congressman Jeff Van Drew hanging out with Governor Murphy in a gin mill in New Jersey, Iran?
Line illegal at five.
Good time.
It was very good.
I liked it today.
It was not...
Iran?
Come on.
Bebe, is this you?
Come on.
Don't push it.
You're getting what you want.
Don't...
Seriously, don't...
Iran?
Yes, I want to...
I can't do an Iranian.
I want you to go to...
Yes, take the drones out.
Yes, Ayatollah, I want to go.
I want you to go to Bedminster, to Tenefly, to Hohokis, to Newark, to Spring Lake.
What?
Yes, I want to fly the drones over Trenton.
Why?
I don't know.
To fuck with them.
Why are we doing this?
I don't know.
New Jersey?
Yes, New Jersey.
The Garden State.
We'll go to Mendham.
We'll go to Danville.
We'll go to Montclair.
We'll fly all over the place.
Why?
I don't know.
What are we looking for?
I don't know.
You know, we'll go to whatever.
You want to fly to New Jersey?
Yes, I want to fly to New Jersey.
And what is that accent?
I have no idea.
It's the most thing.
Huh?
Oh, thank you, Edie.
Got our gift.
God bless you, Edie.
I don't know if Edie's on here.
Edie made a beautiful picture.
Thank you.
We love you.
Declare New Jersey a no-fly zone.
In any event, my friends, oh God, what a day.
What a day.
What a day it has been.
And it's the most incredibly horrible weather you have ever seen.
The weather today, they say it's some, what do you call this, a storm?
What do you call this?
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In 1952, does the name Arnold Schuster mean anything to you?
Anybody?
Arnold Schuster.
Like Simon and Schuster, he was related somehow.
Arnold Schuster was a 24-year-old haberdasher, kind of a kid who lived in Brooklyn, 24 years old.
And at the time, there was a fellow named Willie Sutton.
Willie Sutton was the famous bank robber who said, Those immortal words.
They said, Willie, why do you rob banks?
And he said, that's where the money is.
Okay.
So Willie Sutton decided to, he was out and they were looking for him.
It was a big, big manhunt for Willie Sutton.
And everybody was looking for this gentleman bandit, Willie Sutton.
Well, Arnold Schuster apparently was on a subway one day.
And he looks up, and lo and behold, he said, there's Willie Sutton!
Beloved, this beloved whatever he is.
So Arnold Schuster drops a dime on him.
I think he follows him, and then calls a police officer and says, that's Willie Sutton.
And he basically ratted out Willie Sutton, this beloved.
Well, guess who was watching TV that day?
Albert Anastasia.
Lord High Executioner.
The head of Murder Incorporated.
Remember him?
Kid Twist Rellis.
Pittsburgh Phil Strauss.
Remember they got him eventually in the Park Sheridan on 56th and 7th right there.
Anyway, remember the...
It was when they shot him in the barber chair.
Well, before they did this, obviously, he supposedly said, I hate a squealer hidden.
So, one of his, and there's a guy named The Angel who they think did it, but in any event, they went and they got him.
And they left him in the street.
At first they said they shot him in the eye, but they didn't.
They said they shot him in the groin, but they didn't.
But Joe Valacci mentioned it, but the point is that even Albert Anastasia had this love affair with our friend Willie Sutton.
New Jersey, New York's toxic garbage dunk after Satin Island is overflowing with bodily fluids of the mob.
Well, it always was.
You know, years ago...
Before they put the Meadowlands up there, the smell, Mrs. L will say, that driving through that was just absolutely horrid.
The putrefaction.
So anyway, there are people that historically have been, people have enjoyed, felt some kind of a kinship with, some weird kind of notoriety, John Gotti, Al Capone, Jesse James, you know, Billy the Kid.
And during the, you know, John Dillinger, I think Bonnie and Clyde, remember the Barker brother, Ma Barker, and all these were kind of interesting, Pretty Boy Floyd, Machine Gun Kelly, remember he said, don't shoot G-Man, don't shoot, hence the name.
Then there were women who went crazy over Ted Bundy.
Ted Bundy!
Out of all of the descriptions I've ever heard of what people have done, Ted Bundy is the sickest.
The sickest.
And I'm just going to leave it at that.
And women loved him.
They wanted to marry him.
Richard Ramirez, the Night Stalker, loved him.
Remember, he was pentagram, he was devil.
And they wanted to marry him.
The Menendez brothers and all these other people.
It's weird how people will.
And that's a part of this.
But the reason why people love these guys is because the radical left is so devoid of heroes.
This is as good as it gets for them.
Because they have nothing.
The left is shot.
It's dead.
There's nothing there.
Oh, you're about Caitlin.
Clark, or whatever her name is.
Oh!
Oh!
Is that the basketball player?
I get her in Collins.
Did you hear what she said today?
About, I learned, I was, I learned what I did from my black people.
I have white privilege.
It's like, oh, shut up.
I'm done.
Let's finish.
Through!
No.
Okay.
Well, you know, Luigi's taking a lot of buses.
Real smart, that Luigi.
Also, write stuff down.
Write your things down.
No.
Well, the thing is, he's a punk.
People have this idea that...
Well, that's another thing, too.
How much does his family know?
There are three videos that I want you to see that I did today.
Three videos which are important.
That's why you've got to subscribe to Lionel A Nation.
One is Crime Story, When the Mafia Whacked Arnold Schuster for Ratting Out Willie Sutton.
I love this one.
Number two, Was Luigi Mangione MKUltrad?
That's one of your favorites.
You love that one.
And the next is...
Where the hell were Luigi Mangioni's parents and family this whole time?
It's a hell of a question, isn't it?
Where the hell was he?
Oh, his congress.
Yeah, yeah.
So there you look.
I don't know.
Now, let me explain something to you, first of all.
You should never, ever explain or blame a family for some nut relative.
Okay?
Sorry.
No matter what parents have done, they seem like a good folks.
He was, I don't know where this guy went, when he had that spondylolisthesis or whatever this particular case, he went berserk at some point.
Let me also tell you something, which is very interesting.
See, I would load him up with expert witnesses come sentencing time to explain his particular behavior, what maybe went wrong with him.
And what happens is normally at the age of, in your 20s, is the first time you start hitting, you hit schizophrenia.
Schizophrenia is one of the saddest things you have ever seen.
Did any of you see that video I put up last night for you?
It's the Lisa Lupner character.
Did you watch it from Bellevue?
It's incredible.
20 years old, normally gets it.
People get this call, invariably.
Mother gets a call.
Hello?
Yes.
Mrs. Walters?
Yes.
Listen, I'm Jessica's roommate.
Yeah.
Listen, Jessica was arrested.
What?
Yeah, she climbed on top of the, you know, the Arts and Letters building and threatened to jump out and said she was, said, oh my God.
And they're realizing that's it.
Schizophrenic.
And now she's going to spend the rest of her life.
And it's not a transitory thing like, whew.
That was weird.
Remember the time I had this schizophrenic attack?
It doesn't work like that.
It's the most tragic thing you've ever seen.
And for the rest of their life, and there's this woman, I think Sax is her name, who does one of the most brilliant appraisals of what this is like.
So, all of a sudden, here we have Luigi, okay?
He's, everything's okay, everything's alright.
And then he has this neck surgery.
Now, the thing I want to ask you is, so Lou, Louie, let me get this straight.
Did you go batshit crazy because of what exactly?
Were you denied medical treatment?
Were you?
You come from a rich family.
Where did this medical treatment, this...
Forgive my crudeness, but where did this hard-on for insurance companies come from?
Were you denied this?
No.
Well, where does this come from?
Where does this come from?
Huh?
His mother was there, but she had a neuropathy.
They've got more money.
They've got more money than you can be.
So let me get this straight.
You did what?
This sounds schizoid.
There was a guy in Tampa years ago.
Maybe you know this pilgrim.
His name was Billy Ferry.
Billy Ferry was this wild man.
He was crazy.
Look at his name.
I don't know if he was alive or dead.
One of my...
Colleague, friends, gave him the death penalty.
I didn't even know what happened to him.
I wonder if he's still alive.
Hang on a minute.
Billy Ferry.
His story was, yeah, 30 years.
Billy Ferry.
This is 2030.
I wonder if he's still alive.
It was 1983.
Fire at Winn-Dixie that killed five people.
I don't know if he's alive or whatever.
But anyway, he walked into a Winn-Dixie.
Winn-Dixie was a grocery store.
And went and got a container of gas, gasoline.
Went in, poured it over people, and ignited it.
And later on, they said, why is it?
What was the motivation?
Why did this happen?
And they said, it was apparently, If I recall correctly, he said he bought cream cheese or something and they didn't replace it or they didn't whatever the hell they didn't do.
In any event, he was nuts!
Absolutely crazy!
However, when he took his medication, he kind of looked normal because it really slowed him down.
So there was this interesting thing.
They said, we want him, the prosecution wanted him cleaned up, on medication, so he sat there and looked normal.
Defense said, oh no you don't.
We want him to look crazy.
Our whole defense is going to be he's crazy.
And you're going to do what?
You're going to make him?
That's right.
We want him to look normal.
And of course, when you have somebody who's schizophrenic, paranoid schizophrenic, They're saying, you're trying to kill me.
Why do they say that?
Because the stuff you keep giving them makes them feel sluggish.
Did you ever see the Thorazine shuffle?
Did you ever see that before?
They know exactly what's going on.
So it's this thing about mental health and criminal justice that I could go on and on and on.
There was a guy one time.
Every time he would come into court, he would take one look at me.
It wasn't my case.
I didn't even think he knew what the hell he was doing.
Anyway, every time he saw me, he would go into an epileptic seizure.
Now, the first time, I thought to myself, and people say, well, how do you know that?
Because he stood up and he pointed at me.
And I said, who the hell is this guy?
I didn't even know who he was.
And he...
I mean, he was bad.
It was a grand mal seizure.
And the judge, the judge at the time was Harry Coe, hanging Harry, bless his heart.
And he would say, what happened?
I said, I don't know.
He said, well, what happened?
And they're looking at me.
I said, don't look at me.
I'm just sitting here.
Anyway, so they took him out.
I remember they called the ambulance.
The judge says, call your next case.
And they're trying to resuscitate this guy.
And the judge said, I am not going to interrupt this docket for anything.
Let's go.
And these people are bringing in the IVs and the whole...
Anyway, some time had passed and this guy tells me, hey, guess who's on the docket?
I said, who?
Your buddy.
Who's my buddy?
You know, and he started making terrible, very improper hand gestures.
I said, oh no.
Guess what?
Yep.
Two times!
This one, not as bad.
But he was...
Imagine there's the bench.
It's like a pew.
And his hands are over it like Kilroy was here.
And he's trying to...
He's making noises, but his head is like peeking over.
He sees me, and I set him off into this...
I'm not kidding you.
It was the craziest thing I've ever seen in my life.
Well, anyway...
I thought to myself, you know, this guy's got a hell of a defense of something coming, either that or...
Kind of gave me a bit of a, I don't know, getting a complex here.
The guy sees me and goes crazy.
So what they're going to do right now is they're going to go absolutely nuts, pouring it on, saying that he was crazy.
And don't be surprised if it helps, not in the getting him off in terms of...
Insanity, N-G-R-I, not guilty by reason, but sanity at all.
But I think it'll help tremendously in sentencing.
Pilgrim says, Rayford, Bundy, Old Sparky, yep.
Remember in Rayford, Rayford Prison, they had this little, this little one, remember this Pilgrim?
There was this, it was Stark.
Remember Stark?
Florida, Rayford, Rick Stark.
It was the death house.
And there was this little, like a, not a path, where the ambulance would go, pick up the dead body, bring him up, and you had the protesters on one side, and then the pro-capital punishment on the other.
And they could, you know, get very close to each other.
One guy had a sign that says, the day, I'll never forget, the day they executed Bundy.
It was shock, awe, Con.
I thought that was pretty good.
Pilgrim said, I found that file cleaning up.
Gruesome.
Oh, yes, indeed.
Spandis says, my nephew suffered from anxiety.
Received psychoanalysts for two years.
$50,000.
Another relative car accident denied for a shoulder injury.
LOL.
Look, I'm not in any way trying to justify.
Or explicate what happened with him.
But I am telling you that there's no pictures of this guy Thompson, his family, where he's from, what he did, his hobbies, nothing.
This is all about, he's a rat bastard, and that's it.
And that's not right.
In any event, dear friends.
So, let me thank all of you great and glorious people.
Spandex, thank you.
Pilgrim Media, thank you so much.
Johnny Mazis, thank you.
Nelson A. For your help and love and courtesy, Karen Peterson, bless your heart, Cobbs, the one and only, the inimitable, the ineffable, Mr. Stan Lipman, ladies and gentlemen.
Thank you.
And thank you as well.
Now, tomorrow, this is important, tomorrow, I'm going to be doing 8 o 'clock versus 9 o 'clock, because I've got an appointment at 9 o 'clock.
So, normally I'm going to do 9, so just remember, Make sure you are subscribed to Lionel Nation.
Make sure you hit that little bell so you're notified of live streams in case something comes up during the day.
Same thing goes for Lionel Legal, and it goes doubly the same for Lens Warriors.
Wait till you hear this incredible story about this bot, this killer bot that targeted an autistic kid who was told, basically, to off himself.
This is this...
Excuse me.
Off his parents.
Off his parents.
This is huge.
Remember what I told you about AI and AGI?
This is the story.
So we got drones.
We got bots.
And we got Louis who writes down what he's going to do because he's your schmuck.
This isn't what I love to do.
I would love to have Louis come in and say, you know what, Louis?
You got to write for me silent.
Do me a favor.
Don't say anything, but I want to tell you something.
What an asshole.
You are the biggest dumbass I've ever met.
Mr. Penn, Mr. Ivy League, Mr. Valedictorian.
Schmuck, you wrote this down in a spiral?
What?
You're an idiot!
I would love to tell him that, to watch his face, because all his life, you know he's been told, he's brilliant!
You're an idiot!
You're taking a bus?
They picked you up at a McDonald's, a Mickey D's, an Altoona?
Oh, for God's sakes.
Crime of the century, you are not, my friend.
In any event, thank you.
Have a great and glorious night.
We will see you later, my friends.
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