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I come up with a title for something I think I'm going to be talking about.
For example, tonight's topic, Zuckerberg.
Kisses Trump's I'll be nice ring as Elon's breathing down his neck.
That was great then, but since then, other things have changed drastically.
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And then I've got one, I did two today on the Fifth Amendment, which I think is so interesting, versus the notion of a pardon and how the two work.
If that makes any sense.
And what I find people who just immediately, they don't seem to want to, you're certainly different.
But there are people who just think they know everything, and they just say, well, the problem is, well, how do you know about it?
Well, you see, Hunter has got to make sure that he is saying, well, have you studied this before?
No, I just know this.
I know everything there is.
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Okay.
Where do we begin?
Let me give you this one particular story.
This one came in, and this is for no particular reason other than maybe just me.
I get a big kick out of this stuff because I despise the media.
And this version, and we know a lot of people in the media.
I was listening to, I don't even know how, but it was an attempt to listen to what appears to be a morning show with this fake laughing.
Oh, dear God.
Oh, dear God.
It was so horrible.
So horrible.
Listen to this.
Page six.
Good morning, America has lost its heat figuratively and literally, bruh.
The morning show has repeatedly seen a significant dip in ratings as Disney and ABC migrate from its former New York City headquarters to a new building downtown.
Some staffers, however, are still forced to work in chilly conditions at its headquarters on the Upper West Side, where there's no Wi-Fi, no heat.
I thought they were Times Square.
This is Upper West Zion?
Well, they are in Times Square, but they're also in the local community.
Kelly Ripa is up there.
Okay.
Some staffers, however, are still forced to work in chilly conditions at its headquarters on the Upper West Side, where there's no Wi-Fi, no heat.
The antenna ripped off the building over the weekend, and they're not replacing it.
Another source told Page Six, the New York Post, the heat is off, and yet another added, it smells like crap.
ABC has been in an old and musty building, as our source described it, since the 1980s.
Parent company Disney joined when it acquired the news network in 1995.
The studio sold the complex in 2018 for nearly a billion dollars, but remained tenants while staffers prepared for a big, shiny move to Hudson Square.
Actually, Hudson Yard is going to be interesting because there's no place to park.
And a lot of people are pissed off because I don't think there's any kind of traffic or parking allowance.
There's no...
This is brutal.
The new owners are tearing down the old digs and replacing them with high-rises, which means there's no incentive for upkeep.
And this goes to...
In 2023, it was reported of an infestation of mice and a coterie of fleas at the building.
Which forced employees to refrain from working on the fifth floor.
They've experienced broken elevators and escalators.
The building is falling apart.
It's going to get condemned.
And that's ABC, which I think is emblematic of not just the building, but of the state of the art of this.
And why is this important, my friends?
It's important because, as we have said, Repeatedly.
And this is critical.
It's important because this shows you the way and the state of the art, so to speak, of the industry.
And why is that important?
Because the industry is a direct apparatchik.
A direct...
What am I trying to say?
A direct...
These are the proxies of these radical lunatics of the left.
This place is falling apart.
It is absolutely falling apart.
If you enjoy a healthy dose of schadenfreude, my friend, this is it.
This is it at levels I can't even bring to your attention.
It's incredible.
Absolutely, positively incredible.
And I want you to dig this.
They're in the last throes of whatever this was.
Whether this is liberalism, I don't even know.
Don't even know, and you know what?
I don't care.
We have won so much.
We have won so much.
We have won.
Let me see if I can explain this to you.
Let me see if I can put this into perspective in a way that I think...
We have won by virtue of the fact that a couple of things have happened.
First, there is a shift, a tremendous shift in what we think.
There's a shift in how people are viewing things like the holidays or values or movies.
You are not going to be seeing any of this crap anymore, this nonsense regarding the trans or whatever.
That is over.
So over, it's not even funny.
So over.
And I'm not just saying that to be cute.
I mean, it is over.
This is the thing which I have said to you, dear friend and patriot and fellow practitioner of Whatever the hell we're practicing here.
This is one of the things which is the most important.
When you want to explain to folks why these people on the rancid left are bad, there's, of course, the border.
And the border, unfortunately, listen to me, to a lot of people, they don't know what this is.
We have friends in the San Diego area.
And if you read the stories about San Diego, it's a veritable invasion.
But there are a lot of people there who don't notice it.
It's not because they're stupid, they just don't notice it.
So consequently, you need to say something else to them.
You have to say, well, what about men competing in sports who claim to be women?
Okay, now we're getting somewhere.
And then you say, well, how about people coming into your family and taking your children and sweeping them and perambulating and locomoting them to some dark site so that they can have their genders jiggered with because of some lunatic.
Who seems to have remembered little Madison one day saying, I feel like a boy when she was born a girl.
That's the stuff.
Okay, now we're talking.
Good?
Good.
That's the thing I wanted people to understand.
The economy is important.
Inflation is important.
A lot of people don't understand this.
You have to give people something that they really can get their teeth and their arms around.
Bradley Upland says, Is this the start of a new era?
Zuck aligning with Trump while Elon watches.
Love the drama.
Is Zuck bending to Trump or Elon?
He is bending to both.
Elon.
God bless him.
I don't want to hear anybody say anything about how he is...
Oh, what's the word?
How he is...
He's too involved.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Please, please.
This is...
This is critical that we understand this.
I want to tell you about something else which happened, which I want to bring to your attention, which I know you will take great, great interest in.
And you will listen to me because when it comes to matters that are legal, I love to explain it to you.
I enjoy explaining things to you.
It's one of the things that I just dig.
In an ancient coo kind of way.
Now, let me see this about this terrible case involving a person by the name of Daniel Penny.
Have you followed that?
This is from tomorrow's newsletter.
It'll go on about 6.30 or so, 6.45, something like that, early in the morning, in any event.
And it deals with this idea, this wonderful notion.
Of a phrase, this quote I love from Ralph Waldo Emerson, who said, a hero is no braver than an ordinary man, but he is brave five minutes longer.
I said that, ooh, that's kind of interesting.
Very, very, very interesting.
But, my friends, in any event, I want you to read this.
Today, this is critical, deliberations took place.
In the highly politicized homicide trial of former Marine and consummate hero, Daniel Penny.
This is the man at the center of an absolute horror show, a tragic subway confrontation that left a deranged man dead.
And it's become the symbol of both, I think, New York City's chaos, which is...
Remember, the people who live here, 99.99% of everybody who lives here has never had anything untoward happen to them.
Ever!
Nothing!
You might have seen some weird people, but most people have never had anything happen to them.
Remember that, because people say, how can you live there?
Because most people will go on the subway, and today, like many, there are millions of people back and forth, and nobody was stabbed or robbed.
When it happens, if it happens once, it's too often, but people, and this is important, people have to understand that it's not kind of what you think.
But in any event...
It's a very, very serious case here.
Because we have District Attorney Alvin Bragg, who gave us the lawfare against President Trump.
This is a George Soros acolyte.
He's a restorative justice partisan, which for those of you who want to get into that, please read about restorative justice.
I think the prosecutors actually handling this is one of these.
These creatures who have this idea, and you must understand, they have this idea that the criminal justice system is not just about putting bad guys in prison or jail.
No.
It's about trying to reintroduce them into society.
To try to reacquaint them with the world that they've been far too distanced from over the years.
And you have this Alvin Bragg who, upon taking office, right off the bat, says, I'm not going to charge this.
We're not going to charge theft.
We're not going to charge victims of guns.
And he just went through this list and basically told the prosecutors, we're not going to do this.
Just dump this case.
Nalpros, get rid of, kill, whatever it is.
Nole prosequi is the term.
Now, they are charging Daniel Penny, who was a hero, with second-degree manslaughter and criminally negligent homicide in the death of mentally deranged, violent career criminal, and, get this, part-time Michael Jackson impersonator, Jordan...
Neely.
This case, as you can imagine, underscores the chilling and the stark reality that we have to deal with.
Bragg's justice, Alvin Bragg's justice, is driven by politics, racialized and racially targeted motives and narratives, and a disdain, a disdain.
For law-abiding citizens like you and me, especially those who stand up to the dangerous collapse of public safety, who dare and deign to involve themselves in protecting someone else.
This is, of course, white law-abiding citizens repelling black predators.
If you're white and the defendant, or excuse me, the assailant is black, well...
Adds another story.
Now the facts of the case here are absolutely clear.
Let me bring this up to you because this went out today and I think you'll find this fascinating.
And it's very timely.
And again, this will be out tomorrow.
So sign up for that newsletter.
Sign up and email whatever it is.
Neely is a violent career...
Thug, a savage, a hominid with 40 arrests under his belt, including a brutal assault of an elderly woman who I think he was just released from savaging.
We just broke her face up.
Anyway, he was threatening passengers on the F train and he was loudly proclaiming to the world that I'm going to kill.
I'm ready to go back.
I'm going to kill today.
People were scared witless.
Daniel Penny, a Marine, former Marine, always a Marine, hero, acting with courage and urgency that most New Yorkers desperately crave and want to be existed to an extent, restrained Neely to protect himself and others.
Yet, in a progressive twist of irony, it is Mr. Penny, Who stepped up when no one else did, who now faces up to 15 years in prison.
Now to recap, let me see if we can do this.
The hero, Daniel Penny, the hero, intervened in response to a deranged sicko, psycho, jacko wannabe who died following the use of a carotid restraint.
A choke hold.
This, do yourself a favor, but don't do this too much.
Take both of your hands, put it right up here.
This is the old, this is the rear naked, you know, the sleeper.
This is the carotid ring.
And if you were to push in as far, you won't cough, you'll just, you go to sleep.
Now, you should let go once a person is subdued because this continues.
You might get some kind of a form of ischemia, some anoxia, hypoxia, some interruption of oxygen.
Not a good thing.
But this is not a chokehold.
This is a choke where I'm going after your windpipe in your throat like that guy in the cell.
That was found, you know, that was a choke.
That was choke.
Hyoid bone.
Don't forget, the hyoid is this bone right under the mandible, in the back.
It's not attached to anything.
It's kind of like floating.
It's really neat.
The thyroid cartilage crushed.
This is choking.
This is a choke.
Do you understand this?
Choke.
This is not.
This is the sleeper.
Now, they call it a choke, but that word has to be kept from those individuals who perhaps are jurors.
Crypto says, hey, I meant to say English leather and Stetson earlier, not Old English, but I later remembered the smell of Old English the same.
Indeed, we were talking about...
Okay.
Can we separate the act from the intent with DP?
Yes.
Yes, we certainly can.
Linda Haslund says, my heart is broken.
This brave young man should have to go through this.
He is a hero.
And Mel says, what's the difference between the Bernie Getz case and the Penny case?
Oh, a lot.
A lot!
Oh my god!
Let me interrupt for one second.
Mrs. L just wants me to...
Oh, I see this.
Remember DEA?
This was Pam Bonney's, the DEA case.
Remember this?
The DEA.
There was a Hillsborough County, which is Tampa.
Tampa's a part of Hillsborough County.
Hillsborough County is Plant City.
Anyway, President-elect Trump's pick to lead the DEA, his name is Chad Chronister, announced he will not take the job following conservative backlash.
It seems that he was described as conservatives as a COVID tyrant, bowed out just three days after being selected.
I think what happened was, over the past years, Okay, it says that he, yes, on March 3rd, 30th, 2020, Chronister ordered the arrest of Ronald Howard Brown, the pastor of the River at Tampa Bay Church, for allegedly flouting COVID-19.
Remember that?
He was one of those COVID maniacs.
So that just came into play.
See how much you've got to be paying attention?
This is a quick-moving show, my friends.
Now, Let's go back.
Bernie Goetz was on the train.
These young men came to him, asked him for money, made him feel threatened, put him in some kind of situation where he felt that his immediate physical safety was being compromised.
So what he did was he pulled out a gun and shot him.
And then when one down, he goes, oh, I think you need one more.
Bang.
I know from a citizen's point of view, you're saying, who cares?
They're dirtbags.
Yeah, I know.
But from a legal point of view, the law says that I can use reasonable force to restrain someone in defense of myself or someone else.
And I can use this.
I can hold them until safety and still until the police are summoned.
Some of the people who helped him hold this vermin down were black.
They weren't charged.
Mr. Penny was charged.
He is a white man and a former Marine.
Do I have to make this clear to you?
Alvin Bragg is the Jadrool who charged President Trump.
By the way, there was a motion to dismiss file today.
I've got to read that one.
I didn't hear much of a litany of reasons.
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
But there's a big difference.
So anyway, to make a long story short, they're going to claim that he held on too long.
He was too long.
He held on too long.
That's the problem.
He held on for too long.
Okay.
Is that what it was?
That's what it was about.
He held on for too long.
That once he stopped, he should have let go because they're going to claim that he killed him with this choke.
Even though it's not a choke, and every lawyer should file what is referred to as a motion in limine, L-I-M-I-N-E, where the judge, trial judge, trial court, instructs the participants, don't use this word, don't refer to something and such and such, whatever it is.
Now, here's the critical part, and this is important.
Thank you.
The issue is causation.
This is what I want to tell you right off the bat.
This is what I want you to know.
Be a lawyer now.
You're going to be on the team.
Not only do we have to show that this person died, but that he died because of Mr. Penny.
Not that he had a heart attack, which he would have had anyway.
Karen Peterson says, so what if the dead man had blocked Carotid arteries.
And Penny did what he'd been taught, whatever, for safety.
That's a great, great question.
Here's the issue.
Is what Mr. Penny did reasonable?
If it's not reasonable, Karen, it doesn't matter.
It's just like what Bernie gets.
Shooting him is hard to explain.
They might have had a screwdriver.
And by the way, you should always use, there's a lot of little law here, but you should always use the amount of force that is required, the amount of force that is equal to the amount of force or threat that is presented to you.
So if somebody is, he basically was just, it was his presence that actually freaked people out, not the...
Any kind of gun or whatever.
So what he did was he used, okay, I'm going to use just me, my arms, my knowledge to subdue you because he was going crazy and people said they were scared out of their minds.
Now, so that's the thing.
But you bring up a question.
What if there was something else?
Karen, I'll go one step further.
What if?
What if he was so under the influence, a la George Floyd, that thug, That what he was going through was basically an overdose.
Or he died because of other problems, other comorbidities.
Mal says, because Penny was a trained Marine, can they say his hands are lethal weapons due to his training?
No.
That is something which comes from movies.
I don't know what that means.
But no, his hands are not lethal weapons or whatever that's supposed to mean.
Bradley Oblin says, Is causation clear-cut in this case?
No.
No.
Because you've got the medical examiner's office representing the city of New York, and you've got expert witnesses counter to that who are saying, no, it's another reason.
So that is reasonable doubt.
Let me go back to what I said.
Mr. Penny is charged with being the direct and sole causative factor in the death of this kneeling.
If I walked over to somebody and as I was about to, let's say I was about to pull out a gun.
I've got a gun on me and I'm going to pull this thing out and I'm about to shoot and his back is turned.
He doesn't see it, but I'm going to shoot him and he has a heart attack.
Right before I shot him.
Doesn't that make sense?
Well, I had nothing to do with it.
Okay.
Okay.
I had nothing to do with it.
Change the situation.
Let's say he turned around.
He was facing me.
And when I pulled out my gun, then he freaks out, has a heart attack, and dies.
He dies because he had all kinds of atherosclerosis.
He had all kinds of this.
He might have had some ischemic attack.
Who knows?
Or the effects of the drugs themselves may have all come to pass, all culminated at the same time.
To make it even more complicated, there's an expression in civil law called the eggshell Plaintiff.
Have you ever heard of this one?
This is the story that says, if you walk to somebody and say, hey, watch this.
Boop!
And you go up to somebody and you just tap them in the head and go, boop!
Like that.
Well, it turns out, unbeknownst to you, this guy has literally, bruh, an eggshell skull!
And you killed him!
And you say, well, how was I supposed to know?
And the moral is, the legal doctrine is, you find your victim as they are.
So, if they have an eggshell, so be it.
Now, does that apply here?
I don't know.
What do I want to do?
Class, I want to create reasonable doubt.
That's all I want to do.
Reasonable doubt.
That's all.
Reasonable?
No.
And these people are going to be sifting through ambiguous medical records and videos slowed to Zapruder-esque frame-by-frame because there's people there who recorded this and they're going to try to make that last six-minute restraint seem like, you know, an hour.
But the trial is not about Mr. Penny only.
The trial reflects in detail something broader, the collapse of our criminal justice system, where violent offenders, repeat offenders, are coddled and cosseted, while citizens who dare to intervene are vilified and prosecuted.
Doesn't make any sense.
Bragg, this guy, his priority.
He might be the last vestige, ladies and gentlemen, of these people like Krasner in Philly, Gascon in L.A., Kim Foxx in Chicago, Andrew Warren in Hillsborough County, the Soros types.
This may be the last one.
So when somebody like Penny comes forward and does something to try to help people instead of us, Celebrating him and heralding him for his service.
What do we do?
We prosecute.
This is the most incredible thing in the world.
Bradley says, is causation clear-cut?
You ask a question.
I say no.
And that is reasonable doubt.
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, on behalf of Mr. Penny, we want to thank you, part of the defense, thank you for being here and sitting.
Sitting through this.
Now, I recognize that by me telling you, thank you, you might say, I had to be here.
I was compelled to be here.
That's true.
That's true.
And people laugh a little bit.
But we saw how you paid attention.
And we looked.
Now, this is closing arguments.
This is today the closing.
This is where you can really go nuts.
To an extent, but you talk about the evidence.
But we noticed it.
We saw how you were looking.
You were paying very, very close attention.
We pay attention to you as much as you pay to us.
And here's the thing, ladies and gentlemen.
You're saying, okay, what do you want me to do?
Well, we want you to follow the law.
But here's what Mr. Penny would want you to do.
We want you to go back there and say, do we have a reasonable doubt as to any Aspect of this.
Mr. Oppen says, how could we fix the justice system in this case?
Oh, well, by doing the right thing here.
That's number one.
That's a great question.
But we want you, our friends, to go back and sit there and say, here's the deal.
Do any of you have a doubt, a reasonable doubt, a doubt that you can attach a reason to?
Something that makes sense.
A doubt as to the cause of death, whether it was Mr. Penny or something else.
If you do, we don't have to talk about anything else.
We don't have to go to any other aspect if there's one critical part that is not satisfied where you have a reasonable doubt.
We used to say it this way.
During voir dire, prosecutors will say, Mr. So-and-so, would you make me a promise?
Would you promise me that if you find there's a reasonable doubt, would you at least have a reason for it?
Not a, well, I don't know.
That's not a reasonable doubt.
You know, that's a hunch.
No, I'm not feeling good about it.
That's not a reasonable doubt.
I don't think that's enough to convict either, but when you say, no.
I doubt, and this is the best one, that the government, the state, the city of New York, whatever, failed to meet their burden.
They failed to prove this matter.
It's that simple.
You don't have to go into anything else.
It doesn't mean, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, it doesn't mean that Mr. Neely is not dead.
It doesn't mean that he won't be missed.
It doesn't mean anything.
You're asked to do one thing and one thing only.
To find, is there a reasonable doubt?
If there's no reasonable doubt, then your duty is to find him guilty.
But if there is, you swore to follow the law, and the law says you must find him not guilty.
Think about it this way.
Radiologist sits in his room in the old days, and he goes, he looks at broken bones all day.
Broken.
Shattered.
Fractured.
Not broken.
Or, Pregnant.
Not pregnant.
It's just, that's all you do.
You don't look at this and say, pregnant.
Why did she get pregnant?
Should she be pregnant?
Does it make sense to be pregnant?
Is this going to be a tougher?
Yeah, I don't know anything about that.
I'm saying this, she's pregnant.
This is a broken bone.
That's all you do.
I don't know any of the circumstances, but I don't know what happened.
That's all you do.
And this, you take the guilt away.
You don't have to make any kind of statement about the criminal justice system, whether it's safe, whether other people...
Now, you've got to be very careful in closing arguments not to do the golden rule.
You know what that is?
This is a mistrial city.
This is where you say, how would you feel?
How would you feel if you were in a train?
Some deranged Michael Jackson wannabe came in, scared the hell out of you, scared your kids, scared everybody, said, I'm going to kill you!
Straight out of Rikers.
He did 40...
Now, of course, they don't know this.
They don't know whether he's from Rikers or whatever.
But you can't say, how would you feel?
That's called the golden rule.
Or let's send a message.
Let's send a message to all of the would-be Daniel Penney's.
Don't worry.
Intervene.
No, no, no, no.
We're not asking you to send a message.
We're not asking you to say, how would you feel about this?
Doesn't matter.
The issue is, do you think there is a doubt that you have as to causation?
Or whether he was unreasonable or whether he was even negligent.
Negligent!
Remember, this is negligent.
You know, reckless versus negligent.
Either way, you could say, I don't give a damn whether he died because of a drug abuse or not.
I don't think he was negligent.
I think he applied the carotid restraint most perfectly.
I think it was warranted.
I don't think he was reckless.
I don't think he was negligent.
I think that's what you do.
I mean, that's what you do.
You have to intervene if all of a sudden the subway door is open and this little kid ran...
By the way, this happened one time.
There was a little boy on the subway who had a...
It was wintertime and had one of those coats with a hood back here.
And he went forward and I grabbed this kid and just kind of like picked him up.
He was a little kid.
But he was going to go off that.
And the mother just turned just for a second.
And I used force to pick him up and move him back to save him.
It's no big deal, really.
But the point is, this is critical.
John Mann says, a longer deliberation points to some guilt.
I will never, ever, ever understand this idea that, well, if they're out for a long time, I don't know what that means.
Sometimes they say, look, this guy is not guilty, but let's go through it and make sure, okay?
Or, this guy, you know, he's guilty, but let's make sure and take a long time.
Either way, sometimes people will say, when the jury comes out, We used to have, in our jurisdiction, the foreperson foreman is picked by the others.
And we always were going to say, who's the foreman?
Who guesses?
Because who is the one who's in charge?
Now it's like the first person in the box or whatever it is.
But, to make a long story short...
They may sit there and just say, oh, I was going to tell you, there was a rule that said when the jury comes out, if they look at the defendant, it's not guilty.
It's like, how you doing?
We got a little surprise for you.
As opposed to if they walk in stoically and they don't look at him or her, that means guilty.
None of that makes any sense whatsoever.
None of it.
If he is found guilty, everyone will just mind their business even more than there is now by heroes.
Correct.
Correct.
But I don't know if people are going to necessarily take from this and extrapolate it.
You know what I mean?
To take from this particular case and say, we're going to learn from this.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Mr. Oplin says, will the focus overshadow the injustice system?
Not for the jury.
Now, I think you asked the question, what about intent?
As a prosecutor, I would have said, I'm not going to charge this guy.
I'm not going to charge this guy.
Not at all.
Why?
He was trying to help.
There's no criminal intent to do anything.
There was no criminal negligent intent.
He's sitting there minding his own business.
He's not going and picking a fight with anybody.
He reacted.
There was clearly, I'm not going to use my discretion to prosecute a man who basically wanted to help people.
I am not going to do this.
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I love the fact, dear friends, that you're asking questions about our criminal justice system.
I really, I think it's the most important thing that we do.
I would love so much if we could watch a case and watch something and try to guess what's going on.
Because remember one thing, even though we've said all this stuff and even though this is great and fascinating, the jury has never been a jury before.
They don't know.
So I can tell you all day long about they do this and they do this.
Not necessarily.
You don't know what they're going to do.
What's critical, remember, I like the defense part of it.
The defense part of it.
Now, if I was the prosecutor, because remember, a good lawyer always has to switch positions, what would I do?
I would say all Mr. Penny had to do, he was 100% correct until he kept the, and I'm going to call it a chokehold if I'm the prosecutor, if he left the chokehold on, provided there's no motion to eliminate that would prevent this, but he left the choke on for too long.
That's...
The problem.
Everything was fine.
So whether it's reckless, if you find yourself in the position of jumping in to help, you better know what you're doing.
Even though this man, let's face it, he was scary.
I'll be the first one to tell you.
Let's assume, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, that Mr. Penny decided one day that he had a rope with him.
I don't know why, but let's assume he had a rope.
I know what you're thinking about the rope.
Let's say it was a garage or something.
It was like this.
It was one of these...
It was just an iPhone, right?
Earphones.
And he decides, I'm not going to get him in a restraint.
I'm going to go like...
I'm going to go like Carlo in The Godfather.
And I'm going to...
Get it around his neck, and I'm going to pull as tight as I can.
That's a karate restraint.
That's really what it is.
And I hold it, I hold it, I hold it five minutes, six minutes, and he's turning blue, and I don't let go, and he's dead.
That would be unreasonable.
You would say to me, you know, you had me there, but you kind of just kind of, you strangled the guy.
He was scaring people.
Yeah, I know, but he was scaring people.
If he had a gun or something, maybe, but you strangle somebody who was scaring people.
You see how that changes everything?
Matt and Tina say, do you think Alvin Bragg has a food taster on his staff?
Well, put it this way.
If he does, the food taster might be just as large as he is.
Mr. Bragg is a rather hefty size man who is there as a he's an apparatchik for the Democratic state.
That's exactly what's going on.
100%.
Okay?
All he had to do was say uncle.
Well, not if you've got not if you're, remember he's like this, he's out.
Once you put it on you know the See, old wrestling, you had this done.
You're not talking.
He's out.
It's pretty quick.
You've seen this before.
You see where they kind of tap out right away, and then if you don't respond, if you don't tap out, they go on.
So that's going to be the issue.
You see, the issue, my friends, this is the most important, people like Mick Jagger's ex-girlfriend, and people like...
Robin Williams and Michael Hutchins and David Carradine, who are this autoerotic asphyxia.
You don't have to be dropped to hang yourself.
You don't need that.
There are people who just, little kids, you just cut off the blood supply and that's it.
So that's the focus.
That is the focus.
And then you've got to say, That his duty was...
By the way, he turned him over on the side.
He wasn't out to...
He did a number of things.
Just wanted to maintain.
Now, I don't even know if he took...
I don't think he took the stand.
I don't believe he did.
It's not a good idea to normally.
But that's going to be the issue, dear friend.
That everybody is going to be watching.
It is going to be the most important thing in the world.
It is the most...
It is the idea of right and wrong.
And you, I know, are such good people that you are always, always, always looking for what's right.
And whether race matters, but to Alvin Bragg, their whole thing.
Their whole thing.
Look at this story.
The Daniel Penny...
Prosecutor.
Oh, this is a butte.
You should see this one.
She dangles the race car.
You see this?
Manhattan prosecutors again accused Daniel Penny of failing to recognize the humanity of Jordan Neal during their closing arguments on Monday.
Weeks after being accused of unfairly hinting at racial He didn't recognize that Jordan Neely was a person.
This is Daphina Yorin.
This is the prosecutor.
She claimed that Penny was so reckless with Neely's life because he didn't seem to recognize his humanity.
She played the video of Penny's police interrogation where he referred to Neely as a crackhead and told detectives, you know these people, they're pushing people in front of trains and stuff.
Uh-huh.
And there she is, Daphna Yorin.
Ladies and gentlemen, why people speak before, I have no idea.
We're all spoken, we've all spoken dismissively about people like Jordan Neely, she says.
Maybe we too have lumped them all together like this.
But the context is very telling here.
When the defendant is talking like this about Mr. Neely, he knows he very likely had killed him.
Can you imagine a reasonable person speaking like this about a human being that he or she had just killed?
Please.
Please.
Now, a couple of things here.
Why do people speak to the police?
I do not understand it.
I don't understand it.
You have a Fifth Amendment right to remain silent.
You're not going to help them not charge you.
Believe me.
You're not going to say, you know what, we were going to charge you.
But when you came along and said something, no.
It doesn't work like that.
You're always going to say that if you don't say anything, they have nothing to prove.
They absolutely, positively don't know what to do.
If all of a sudden they're saying, we don't know anything, and we have the people around him, and you're almost telling them, like, you'll hear what we have to say at trial.
But if you're talking to him, your demeanor, the way you looked, the way you acted, please, for the love of God, do yourself a favor.
You have a Fifth Amendment right, my friend.
You have this wonderful document called the Constitution of the United States.
Use it!
Use it!
Remember that you cannot necessarily give false information.
You have to give your name because if you don't, they can take you to the pokey and find out who you are.
If the police ask you to remove yourself from a car, don't fight them.
Don't fight them.
You don't have to say anything.
Don't be a jerk.
I can't tell you.
How you act sets a tone you cannot believe in terms of how important it is.
Our friend, what actions can be taken if we disagree with Alvin?
Vote him out.
Put somebody else in there.
Absolutely.
Positive.
Vote him up.
That is exactly what we need to do, my friends.
But remember something.
When you engage yourself in a particular thing like this, please remember, you're risking your own particular freedom.
I don't want to dissuade people from becoming actively involved, but I kind of am.
Bradley Sanders, thank you so much.
Same thing goes for weapons.
I don't even know where to start with this one.
I told you I've got a friend of mine not the brightest guy in the world says I'm going to get a shotgun.
I'll never forget this.
Okay.
I have spent my entire life looking at these scenarios and believe it or not believe it or not you're better off without a gun most of the time.
You are better off Because the thing that you want to protect from ain't going to happen most of the time.
So let me give you an example.
Changing the subject.
Ladies and gentlemen, you're upstairs.
Let's say you have a double two-story house.
You hear noise.
Your wife says, there's somebody out there.
That's the worst thing in the world.
Maybe the dog, if you have, dogs are great because they'll be barking, but if you don't have a dog, what do you do?
Most people have never thought about it.
I asked my friend, what are you going to do?
I'm going to get my shotgun.
Where is it?
Where do you keep it?
Can you get it?
Is it under the bed?
The first place he's going to look?
It's not going to be in a drawer.
You're going to look around right there, will you?
If you have it, there are things you can buy, different things for headboards.
You can grab it right away.
You can do all kinds of stuff.
But let's say you have it.
You know, you've got it.
It's a pistol grip.
It's a nice one.
Let's say it's not too...
What do you do?
You go down the stairs.
Anybody there?
I'm armed.
I don't know if that's a good idea.
And you look, and there's somebody in your living room.
You've just racked up.
A round or a shell in your shotgun, your Mossberg, your Ithaca, and you're ready to go.
What do you do?
You're going to shoot him?
He's in your house, not doing anything.
Do you have to wait?
It's dark.
I can't tell.
If you shoot him, are you off the hook?
Maybe.
Could they still arrest you?
Sure.
Wait a minute.
How's that?
Because the police officer can say, we're going to take you in anyway.
The guy who's there doesn't like your story and they arrest you.
There's a dead guy, you shot him.
He never thought about any of this.
He never thought, well, I thought that.
No, no, no, it doesn't work like that.
Doesn't work like that.
Don't you understand how this thing...
This is the thing which is the most scary.
This is the thing which is the most scary.
This is the part which I don't even know how to...
So, I don't want to talk you out of this, but I don't know these answers.
You better ask yourself ahead of time, do I know what the hell I'm doing here?
Do I really?
Because they can still sue you.
Take whatever you want.
Because that's a civil remedy.
I don't know the facts of the case.
I don't know.
I don't know how reckless you are.
And by the way, if you've got a pistol versus a shotgun, and that pistol goes through that window, or goes through a door and hits somebody, or you're in an apartment, it goes through a window.
I mean, these are things that everybody's got to think of.
What am I going to do?
How do I do this?
What am I going to do in the event of a...
whatever.
In the event of some kind of attack.
You gotta ask yourself, what do you have?
Do you have pepper spray?
Is that legal?
Do I have a truncheon?
You know those blackjacks?
You ever see a blackjack?
A blackjack or a blackjack?
There's another one too.
A blackjack is one, but there's another one.
Anyway, you ever seen these things?
I mean, they are serious.
They're illegal!
Would you...
Would you shut up?
This thing goes...
I'm not talking to you.
Please.
I'm not talking to you.
Blackjacks, and there's another one too.
There's a...
Not nunchucks, but there's a...
Black is a baton, okay?
Can a baton...
One of those extendable batons...
I don't really know.
It just depends.
But those blackjacks in the old days, remember...
Remember from the movie The Untouchables?
Remember Sean Connery?
He's about to hit Andy Garcia with it.
It flips back.
It's this lead.
Now you've got to get close to him, but it does a serious number.
Is that legal?
I don't know.
Thank you.
It's one of those things which is very, very scary.
As far as shooting goes, don't even get me going with that.
Couldn't even tell you.
Remember something.
The amount of force that you use has to be commensurate with that which is directed towards you.
That's all.
You hear what I'm saying?
That is the most important thing available.
Now, let's talk about one protection, which I did not mention, but I should.
You're sitting.
You're sitting.
Sorry about that.
You've got your phone.
You've got your laptop.
You're at an airport.
You are opening up everything in the world to whatever the hell it is.
I mean, you are sitting there just a sitting duck.
Not only that, with the best, with the better VPN services, you can actually, which is interesting, sometimes there are deals Made for people in different parts of the country, different parts of the world.
You can hide your location.
You can pose as someone from, let's say, the UK to take advantages of certain things.
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Here's one.
This is a pretty comprehensive statute.
This is from our old Florida statute years ago, 790-001.
Many of them are similar.
A weapon is defined as, I love this, a dirk, a knife, metallic knuckles, billy, tear gas gun, or chemical weapons, with the exception of a common pocket knife, a plastic knife, or blunt bladed table knife.
The Department of Agriculture can issue licenses for carrying concealed weapons and knives, but doesn't include machine guns.
Other weapons prohibited.
Short barreled rifles.
Rifles with a barrel less than 16 inches.
Short barreled shotguns.
Shotguns with a barrel less than 18 inches.
Fully automatic firearms, ballistic self-propelled knives, but brass knuckles are legal in Florida if carried openly, but concealing them may result in legal consequences.
We used to have a thing called manual possession, where you could...
Do they still have a 790-05?
This was one of my favorites.
This was 790-05.
I think it said, yes, no, this is 790.05.
This is, let me see, a repeating rifle.
It was the weirdest thing.
Oh, carrying a pistol, repeating a rifle.
Anyway, there used to be one that says you can't openly carry.
It was a misdemeanor.
Manual possession.
Oh, antique firearms are also excluded sometimes.
So to make a long story short, one time it was a great story.
In 1989 or so, right around those times, the Florida legislature decided to completely repeal Chapter 790, which was the weapons statute, and replace it with the Jack Hagler Self-Defense Act.
I don't know who Jack Hagler is or was.
Well, the 790-05 part, which prevented you from wearing a six-shooter, they never repealed it.
It was just missing.
So for a little period of time, you could walk around with six-shooters, and it was not against the law.
And they had an emergency session, they went back to Tallahassee, the capital, to work.
But in the meantime, people would go into...
We used to have little generals and 7-Elevens and these little, they weren't bodegas, but these, and the people, the poor guy who would work there overnight would say, come on in!
Free coffee!
And all these guys came in, Atex, beautiful, leather-tooled, six-shooters in the hats, and they loved it.
They weren't hurting anybody.
Anybody who's going to walk around with a weapon like that is not going to hurt anybody.
Well, to make a long story short...
Robbery, commercial robbery, armed robbery of sorts, dropped to nothing during this period of time.
Nobody.
Who's going to walk into a 7-Eleven with all these people with techs over here and you got John Wayne walking around with guns?
They didn't hurt anybody.
They didn't rob anybody.
You don't say, hey, you know what?
Now that I can put on a six-shooter, I'm going to go rob a bank.
No, it's concealed.
To make a long story short, ladies and gentlemen of the jury.
Gary Kleck, John Lott, others have said that more guns, less crime.
It is that simple.
If in the hands of the law-abiding citizen.
So let us pray, my friends, for Mr. Penny.
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And Mr. Opland, Matt and Tina, thank you so much.
Nelson A., Johnny Mazda Spaz, everybody.
Mel, Karen Peterson, we thank you.
Linda Hazlitt, Crypto Domini, thank you so much for your kindness.
Pilgrim Media, by the way, comes forward.
Pilgrim says, Mr. L., remember, they were scaring the tourists.
Oh, that's right.
Do you remember that years ago?
In fact, in Florida, they used to have this deal where when you would go get a rental car, they had on the, interesting, they had on the, how do I say this, on the cars, as it were, on the cars itself, they had these signs that said, Rental, you know, and it was terrible.
And people would follow these poor tourists and the like.
Anyway, they changed that.
Do you remember Pilgrim years ago?
You probably don't know this, but maybe you do.
Remember when they had in Florida licenses, driver's license, or auto tags?
One was Dade.
They had one at your county.
One was Dade.
Two was Broward.
Three was Hillsboro.
Four was Pinellas.
Five was...
Duval.
Who knows?
This went down.
But one, two, three, four.
Dade Broward Hillsborough.
Four was Pinellas, as they used to say.
Pinellas.
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