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Dec. 3, 2024 - Lionel Nation

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SCANDAL: Hunter Biden Pardoned After Joe Promises Not to Do So

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	Hey, good evening everybody in the UK.
	Whatever time zone you're in in America, welcome.
	We are with Lionel.
	We are doing an Ask Lionel Anything.
	But of course you're going to bombard him with diddy questions as usual.
	And we've got this big news about Hunter Biden getting pardoned.
	Lionel, I read your email, your newsletter, comprehensively.
	You touched on some great points there.
	Do you want to reiterate some of that to the viewers?
	Sure, a couple of things here.
	Let me try to put this into context for your audience, for your great and wonderful audience, probably UK heavy.
	Under our Constitution, we have this wonderful thing called the power of the pardon, and it's beautiful.
	And it's terrific so long as your guy is doing the pardoning.
	If he is, everything's groovy.
	And it grants this Article 2, Section 2, Clause 1 of our Constitution, which I always have here next to me, along with all of my little stickers every time I voted.
	This is what America is about.
	It's not about the flag and songs and YMCA.
	It's about the Constitution.
	But it grants to the President reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, meaning federal crimes, not state crimes, not local, specific ones, except in cases of impeachment.
	Now, what does this mean?
	Not to bore people.
	But it really gives him, the president or her, the absolute power to not only commute a sentence, to pardon, to say, future cases, I could pardon you, Sean, for stuff you haven't even done yet.
	In the case of Richard Nixon, when he was, when he stepped down, They gave him a pardon.
	Gerald Ford, his successor, gave him a pardon.
	And people said, pardon of what?
	He wasn't charged with anything.
	They were going to impeach him.
	They were going to remove him.
	They may have charged him.
	And they gave him a pardon.
	It's like a vaccine.
	I don't want to use that word.
	So even that concept doesn't make any sense.
	It's weird.
	Basically, look, Sean, we knew he was going to do this.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Little Ziggy, you're the president, you're the king, you're whatever.
	Would you grant your son a pardon?
	If we have blood sacrificed a country such as Ukraine, and we'd offered mafia protection to oligarchs and billionaires, and my son was in a conspiracy to fleece said country, I would try and avoid him from facing those consequences.
	I would answer the question 100%.
	Yes.
	I don't even know what the issue is.
	It's like, of course.
	Of course.
	I'll deal with it my way.
	Have you said Burisma?
	I don't give Burisma whatever it is.
	Listen, let's just get down to the first question.
	And I think this has a lot to do with morality and familial responsibility and the like.
	My son, my daughter, I'm their father.
	I protect him.
	That's what I do.
	That's it.
	You don't like it?
	I don't care.
	This is my son and my daughter.
	Let me ask you a question.
	Let's assume, I don't know, we've never talked about religion, but I'm a retired Catholic.
	I was raised in Catholic school, parochial school, Catholic school, and I think nothing but fond things about them.
	But I don't practice anymore, so I'm pretty much retired.
	Not recovering, but just retired.
	Now, there was a time when if you went to a priest and you told a priest what you did, the priest would grant you absolution in terms of either confession and or I think they call it a reconciliation now.
	Nobody's got a problem with that.
	Nobody's got a problem.
	I mean, this is the ultimate part.
	This is a pardon, dispensation from hell or whatever it is.
	People would say, well, of course.
	Do you have to show any contrition?
	You say the act of contrition.
	I mean, it's...
	So I don't know why we have any problem with the notion of granting, you know, pardons and the like.
	But let's talk about this case.
	Sean, this is the most corrupt...
	These people make hardcore downtown LCN gangsters look like members of the Boy Scouts.
	These are hardcore.
	Have you ever known?
	I'm sure you have in your life.
	Real gangsters.
	Real criminals.
	Criminal mind.
	They're very good to you.
	They're very nice.
	But they think about this 24-7.
	They think differently.
	How can I steal?
	They're thieves.
	They love it.
	This is the part.
	This is what these people are.
	The Biden administration, they are the worst.
	And the best part is, I love people who love to do it in front of you.
	It's not that they just do this.
	They could say Shell Corporation is strong, man.
	No!
	Joe Biden was in Ukraine and said, and I told that Ukrainian guy, either you have this, you stop this prosecution of Poroshenko, whoever it was, or you're not going to get the $2 billion.
	He said it, and Didn't care anything about it.
	This is a hardcore gangster, Joe Biden.
	He is.
	Don't let him fool you.
	He may walk around the continent dropping a load in his britches, but when it comes, he's been around for 50-something years.
	He knows where the bodies are buried.
	He is a gangster.
	He's a killer.
	Don't ever forget that.
	So he doesn't care, but he set his son up.
	This son was in no shape.
	And there was a part of me that feels sorry for this miserable, evil seed, this spawn.
	Because if ever you've been around or seen anybody who's in the throes of drug addiction, and really, if you don't think you can do that, it rewires everything.
	Reality...
	What you would do in terms of risk, it goes into your brain, rewires it, and what comes out, you're not the same.
	I don't care if you're Hunter Biden or some guy on the street.
	So I have a real soft spot.
	In my professional career as a lawyer, I'm lucky to say I've had no individual problems with it personally, but...
	That's only because I didn't try half of this stuff.
	If I'm not a meth addict, I never tried meth or anything else for that matter, heroin.
	Let me tell you, I had some great stuff in the hospital a couple of times.
	I thought, oh man, this is too good.
	So I don't think that my dopamine receptors are any more strong than you.
	I'm just lucky.
	That goes for gambling.
	It goes for anything else for that matter.
	Don't ever think that you're beyond that.
	You are just as screwed up as anybody else.
	So there's a part of me that feels sorry.
	And, Sean, they set him up.
	They could have gotten his brother, Jim.
	Why get him?
	Why get this guy who's with hookers and crack pipes to allow him to potentially screw up and land for the rest of his life in prison?
	Because they don't care.
	He doesn't worry about anything.
	I'm Joe Biden.
	I'll do whatever I want.
	I've been here for 50 years.
	You can't touch me.
	My opinion.
	So, does this absolve the big man from being investigated for offering mafia protection to the oligarchs of Ukraine who'd carved the country up in the blood sacrifice?
	Hasn't he effectively pardoned himself?
	No.
	Well, first of all...
	I love you to death, but he didn't do any of that stuff.
	He was a politician.
	That's called politics.
	That's called realpolitik.
	That's called making a deal.
	Are you kidding?
	Netanyahu?
	Zelensky?
	Putin?
	Trump?
	Nixon?
	Lyndon Johnson?
	Maggie Thatcher?
	You cannot go into government today and not be a serial killer.
	Or you can't.
	You are a serial killer.
	You go in.
	There are people right now.
	I hear people all the time talking about what's going on in Israel and Gaza.
	And they're talking about like, well, what are you going to do?
	They pull kids out.
	They look like dolls that were run over by a truck covered in gray, this pyroclastic dust of pulverized.
	You know, they're limping.
	They've got that death look.
	They go, oh, there you go!
	October the 7th!
	October the 7th!
	It's weird how...
	And these are people who are seemingly normal.
	They've got kids.
	They've got grandkids.
	So, you know, what you say is terrific, but come on, man.
	This is...
	These people don't care?
	Pardon me?
	All right.
	Folks, get your questions in for Lionel.
	Also, Lionel's links are in the description box below this video.
	So, check out his work.
	Go over to his channel and support him on X. At Lionel Media and YouTube at Lionel Nation.
	Now, can I tell you what I'm going to...
	You want to get real conspiratorial?
	Yes.
	Listen to what I think happened.
	Now, listen to this.
	Dig this.
	At the end of the president's term, he always meets the new president.
	Okay?
	And the new president has never been a president before.
	It's always somebody new.
	So the old president says, okay, first of all, this is where everything is.
	Bathroom's down the hall.
	Let me give you a couple of ideas I want to talk to you.
	And they always talk about this conversation about president to president.
	And nobody knows it.
	It is as secret as you can get, and they can deny it all they want.
	This is the second time in history Where you have two ex-presidents meeting.
	We had in 1890 Grover Cleveland who won two non-consecutive terms.
	So Trump has already been president.
	So two presidents talked.
	This is brand new.
	So they get to close the door and they look at each other and they say, I know.
	I know.
	So let me tell you this conversation.
	I am an aficionado.
	I used to do a lot of business with professional wrestling in our country.
	One thing about professional wrestling is you learn the work.
	It's a work.
	Good guy, bad guy.
	Baby face, heel.
	It's an act.
	And when all is said and done, you and I are the best of friends.
	Same thing with just like old cartoons, like Warner Brothers with the sheepdog and the wolf.
	Time to go home, Sam.
	Okay, we'll see you tomorrow.
	But we're trying to kill each other during the day.
	But when all is said and done, it's just business.
	It's just business.
	So they're talking, and this is what I think happened.
	Biden says, can you believe?
	I don't want to curse.
	Can you believe this?
	Yep, I can.
	Biden says, you know what they did to me in 2016?
	I was supposed to run against you.
	And Trump said, you know, you would have been good.
	He goes, I know.
	But they told me no.
	They put in that bitch, pardon my friends, that Harrodin, that matrix, that virago Hillary Clinton.
	And look what happened to her.
	You cleaned her clock.
	But I could have given you a run for the money.
	Joe, you're right about that.
	So they told me to sit down.
	To sit it out.
	2020 came along.
	And I stole it.
	But...
	Fair and square.
	We had more votes.
	I got more votes.
	But it's moot at this point.
	And Trump said, I know.
	But I got away with it.
	It was a different time.
	It was COVID.
	But I understand.
	And they're talking to each other like I understand.
	So then what happened was, after it comes along, I was going to go up against you right now.
	And let's face it, I'm not in the best of shape right now.
	I lost my fastball, as we say.
	But...
	I don't know what happened, and then all of a sudden, they're telling me, they're going to get rid of me, they're going to pull the 25th Amendment on me, and they're going to put in this que mala, for all of our Latino friends, who is an idiot!
	And I said, whoa, wait a minute.
	Wait a minute, what?
	Yeah, we want her.
	Her?
	No, this is my time.
	I'm the president.
	I won.
	I won.
	My party selected me.
	No.
	What do you mean, no?
	No, we're not going to do it that way.
	Okay, so then Biden says, and you know what I did?
	I know what you did, Joe.
	I said, F you.
	Here's what I'm going to do.
	I'm going to endorse her.
	You're not supposed to endorse her.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	You want me to step down?
	I'm going to endorse her.
	They said, no, we want you just to step down.
	Then we'll go to the, we'll have a convention and we'll pick somebody.
	You know what?
	No way.
	You want to play hardball with me?
	I'm playing hardball with you.
	F me, F you.
	Ha ha.
	And Trump's probably laughing his arse off at what he did.
	He said, oh, and it gets better.
	So anyway, she gets out there, and then Trump probably leaned over and said, I thought, this is a joke.
	They're sandbagging me.
	She's going to do something.
	I don't know.
	It just got worse.
	She was never prepped.
	She didn't want this.
	I know.
	I can't believe it.
	And not only did I beat her, he beat her, I mean, like a purple-headed stepchild.
	I mean, electoral vote, popular vote.
	He won every battleground state.
	She was the worst.
	And she put out about $2 billion that they can't account for.
	They gave Oprah Winfrey $2-3 million for what?
	They gave Al Sharpton a half a million.
	To do what?
	He never even told his MSDNZ folks he might be in trouble.
	I mean, you've got James Carville who's going to...
	I mean, this is a cluster like you can't believe!
	So they're sitting here laughing their ass up.
	So anyway, so here's the deal.
	It says, so Joe, yeah Don, I got a way to do a really good FU.
	What is it?
	Okay, first of all, you've got to pardon Biden, Hunter.
	I know, I know.
	Here's what I want you to do.
	Pardon me.
	What?
	Pardon me.
	Joe Biden pardons Donald Trump for anything I might have done.
	Maybe there's some case out there that's, you know, that they could bring because the pardons are from 2014 to 2001.
	And by the way, the pardon goes basically when Burisma, it covers everything.
	So Joe, you pardon me.
	Hey, that's good.
	That's a, to you, Democratic Party.
	That's what you think.
	Now, when I get in, I'm going to pardon you.
	You got that?
	Yeah.
	And people will say, great.
	And I'll tell my people, they'll say, but your Republicans are mad?
	No, hell no.
	I'm going to tell them it was an F you to the Democrats.
	They'll love it.
	You're right.
	Then, you're going to also get rid of this pesky state charge.
	Because this, quote, conviction, he was never convicted.
	He was merely found guilty.
	Because a conviction under the laws of the United States is a formal adjudication of guilt by the court.
	That hasn't happened yet.
	So this, I don't want to get too technical here, but that was really a federal charge hidden as a state.
	So they're going to drop them.
	So anyway, remember the movie Reservoir Dogs where they all start shooting each other at the end?
	They're all...
	Well, it's kind of like that, but the only ones who are dead are the Republicans and the Democrats, but the ones shooting are still standing.
	And it's a double F-U.
	And Trump is so good at this, he knows this will drive them crazy.
	This will drive them nuts.
	So everybody gets pardoned, everybody walks away, and they're the best of friends.
	And they're going to go nuts, the Democrats, because the Democrats don't know what to do here.
	The Democrats are so, they're freaking out.
	And they're, Sean, they're losing everything.
	Here, I guess you know this, we have MSNBC, which was our, one of the liberal bastions.
	Elon's going to probably buy it and call it MXNBC.
	In fact, NBC, the national broadcasting company, this venerated vaunted, they want to have nothing to do with it.
	They get our name off this.
	Get our name off this.
	You're on your own.
	We're not going to let you use our news sources.
	They're at 30 Rock, Rockefeller Center, where they have the big Christmas tree and this famous...
	They may be moving to some, I don't know, some Jersey garage somewhere.
	It's collapsing.
	CNN, forget it.
	So, Sean, everything is collapsing.
	The Democratic media, the Democratic politics, political strata, it's all...
	Falling apart.
	And you're seeing it all over the world.
	And this is not just an event here.
	This is everywhere.
	Trump did something.
	Or maybe it was going to happen anyway.
	It's like they're still trying to attribute the falling of the wall to Reagan and Russia.
	But this is bigger than anything you can imagine.
	Now, it gets even better.
	We get to the real hardcore.
	Remember, these people are killers.
	And there's one thing about killers.
	They will make a deal with the devil.
	So Trump says, I gotta deal with you.
	Let's get in Barry.
	Obama.
	They screwed him.
	He's nothing now.
	He's nothing.
	And Michelle, I don't even know what the hell that's about.
	She's out doing her whatever she's doing.
	They are so bad.
	He...
	He was in charge of nothing.
	Everybody said he was pulling the strings.
	He's not pulling anything.
	He's pulling something, but it's not the strings.
	Then you've got Hillary.
	Hillary's furious.
	Hillary said, I'm going to run in 2016.
	They abandoned her.
	Remember, she was supposed to be the president.
	She sat out twice when Bill ran for governor and won in Arkansas.
	Then he was two terms as president.
	Then Barack Obama was two terms.
	All they did to her was they gave her a Senate seat and the Secretary of State, and she's walking around furious.
	She said, this is not the way it's supposed to be.
	She's a laughingstock.
	So she's pissed off.
	Barack Obama's pissed off.
	Biden's pissed off.
	And the best one is George Clooney.
	George Clooney, not that it matters, they said, listen, George, we want you to come out and double-cross Biden.
	Stick a knife in his back.
	Why?
	Because we just want you to.
	But that's my friend.
	Shut up.
	If you do this, we'll give you the ambassadorship to Italy.
	Alright.
	Well, guess what happened?
	Now he's persona non grata.
	Not only that, they were going to make him a deal where he was going to get a Tony on Broadway and then maybe an Academy Award for this new movie with Brad Pitt.
	He wants respectability.
	He's got that marriage to Amal.
	A-M-A-L.
	A woman who lives in fear of autocorrect.
	A-M-A-L.
	No!
	Amal!
	She, get this, she's in the International Court of Justice.
	She's a human rights lawyer who basically is pro-Palestinian.
	And AIPAC owns everything in Hollywood and everything else.
	So they're like, who the hell is she?
	What's going on?
	So they're trying to tone her down.
	So it's a mess!
	It's a mess!
	Barack's upset.
	Hillary's upset.
	George Clooney's upset.
	Washington...
	I mean, Hollywood is falling apart.
	That's why they're going crazy with this movie, Wicked, because at least there's some semblance of something.
	They're trying to come back a little bit.
	These liberal lunatics have just destroyed it.
	We're looking at 2028, by the way, which is going to be Gavin Newsom.
	That's another story, too.
	I'm throwing it too much in the weeds.
	This is the greatest...
	4D, 5D chess you can imagine.
	All right, we've got about a dozen viewer questions have come in about the pardon, but first, have you seen the news about Elon Musk possibly donating $100 million to the reform party here run by Nigel Farage?
	Nigel, isn't that great?
	I love Farage.
	That would change things with freedom of speech, definitely.
	I love Farage, because what we're doing right now is, this is the thing, it is, it is, how do I say this?
	It's the notion of globalism, but for good.
	In the old days, globalism said, let's take Europe, let's destroy all of your history, your language, your currency, your cultures, and make it the EU, and destroy everything that makes you special.
	Every vestige of your heritage and your tradition, let's just destroy it.
	Well, what we're doing right now is, wait a minute.
	We're kind of doing that, but we're seeing everybody.
	There was a great show years ago called Hawaii Five-0.
	It was a TV show.
	And at the end, there was this one guy, an adventure.
	And this guy, Cam Fong as Chin Ho, he said, We're all in this together, brother.
	It was this weird Hawaiian thing.
	Anyway, that's what we are.
	Hey, UK.
	Hey, Europe.
	Hey, Germany.
	We're all in this together.
	Elon is like the glue.
	Who is for free speech?
	Me!
	Who's for good food?
	Me!
	We're not different!
	We may look different.
	We may have accents.
	We may this.
	We're all the same.
	And Elon is this glue that says, wait a minute, free speech?
	Yeah!
	We're all against this stupid trans nonsense, puberty blocking.
	No, it's garbage.
	Free speech.
	Be original.
	End of war.
	Keeping money here.
	Helping up your...
	You should worry about Brits and Britons in the UK and not Ukraine or anything else for that matter.
	Kill the military-industrial complex.
	Kill these neocons, these new world order people.
	Kill them.
	This is great.
	We're going to end up basically, I hope one day, abolishing political parties.
	What the hell is a political party?
	Do you go to a movie based upon your party?
	Do you go to restaurants without a party?
	You might have a preference.
	Parties completely destroy the very fabric of common sense.
	As though there were diametrically opposed ideas as to freedom and governance.
	Oh, the happy days are here again.
	Praise God!
	In the name of Jesus!
	Clap Wu wants to know, shouldn't there be a bill to prevent sitting presidents from implementing pardons towards family members?
	No, because the Constitution doesn't say anything about it.
	In fact...
	This is a good question.
	The Constitution says nothing about pardoning yourself.
	I'm going to be doing a newsletter, a new one on that one.
	There's nothing about this at all.
	By the way, in American law, and I'm sure it's the same for British jurisprudence, whenever somebody asks you a question, the answer always is, it depends.
	No matter what the question is, it depends.
	Can you pardon yourself?
	And in our Constitution, if it says you can't do it, There is nothing, for example, I don't know if you're a hockey fan, but is there any rule in hockey that can prevent a 600-pound man from coming up and sitting right in front of the net, just sitting there, and no puck can get past him?
	No.
	Is that illegal?
	No.
	It's just not contemplated.
	That's what this is.
	Daniel wants to know, is it correct that Hunter cannot claim the fifth now?
	It depends.
	I'm doing it again.
	The thing about a pardon is sometimes you have to almost admit that there's something to be pardoned for.
	And the Fifth Amendment, I don't think you ever waive that.
	I mean, you can waive it, but for him, could he be forced to testify against, let's say, his father or somebody?
	Oh, yeah.
	Could he take the Fifth Amendment?
	I don't know why.
	They granted him a pardon.
	He can't be true.
	But the pardon ended today.
	In the United States, if somebody came to you and said, you said to me, listen, they're asking me whether, they want to question me about what I know about the Kennedy assassination.
	I'm going to say, take the Fifth.
	They say, no, no, you don't understand.
	First of all, I wasn't born then in 1963, maybe you were, but I wasn't in this country and I was clearly, take the fifth.
	No, you don't understand.
	Take the fifth!
	Because they bring you in on day one.
	And they bring you on day two.
	And if the day two testimony is different than the day one testimony, they get you for perjury.
	So you just don't talk to these people.
	So you're always the Fifth Amendment.
	Now, if they grant you...
	If they say, we're going to immunize you, we're going to grant you immunity, we're going to give you complete and total use immunity, even then.
	So the answer is no, nobody's going to be fully divested of it.
	The question is, what does this do for Joe Biden?
	If Joe Biden walks out and asks at January the 20th when he walks out and says, thank you, and Donald is yours, and they say, You're under arrest.
	And they charge him for whatever it is.
	They'll be tough because we're not sure whether a president, in this new Supreme Court case that we had, whether the immunity, executive immunity, executive privilege and immunity, we're not sure what it is that he did.
	If you mentioned his being involved in blood activities and the like, that might just be called being a...
	But if he bribed, if he conspired with members of his family to subvert the tax laws or the laws of this country, who knows?
	That's why Trump comes in and says, don't worry, I'm going to pardon you.
	Question from Trevor.
	Lionel, great to see you back.
	Do you think Trump will pardon himself the moment he takes office?
	No.
	He might do it at the end.
	No reason to start now because he's in office.
	So, no.
	But there is a question whether you can do it.
	The only thing he can't do is he can't pardon himself from being impeached, which kind of makes sense.
	The main vehicle to remove you, you have the ability to erase that.
	No.
	But knowing him, He says, oh, I love this.
	Sure.
	I want to tear this up.
	He'll be 82 years old.
	F you!
	And the horse you rode in on.
	I'm going out with it.
	You know, you figure it out.
	I'm out of here.
	I'm not playing by any rules.
	And by the way, one more thing.
	The best part about Biden, he says, the reason why, because they said, are you going to pardon?
	Nope.
	Is there any chance that you're going to pardon?
	Nope.
	Are you sure?
	Nope.
	Nope.
	And his press secretary, the woman with a bad wig, they ask her, are you going to...
	Nope.
	Nope.
	And as sure as they said, they go, oh yeah.
	Because he said, now wait a minute, things change.
	Because what they're doing is that they're using the system of law against my son, which is what they did to Trump.
	It's called lawfare, you son of a bitch.
	That's what they did to him.
	And Sean, he looks at you with a straight face.
	He's a psychopath.
	It's like, that's exactly what we did.
	But he makes it, oh no, but this is different.
	It's not different.
	So, anyway, I love it.
	Believe me, they're going to be waking each other the whole time.
	They're going to be doing like this and giving each other signals and you think Bilderberg is good?
	They're like their own Illuminati.
	They're going to be going like this and this and this.
	Quite a few people are asking whether Biden meets the mental faculty requirement to pardon people or whether there is one.
	He does.
	Absolutely.
	Unless you are somehow removed from office via the 25th Amendment or something, you are non-compass-mentous.
	Unless somebody says, and by the way, mental?
	We don't want to even get into the position of even suggesting whether a person is mentally able.
	What does that mean?
	Emotionally, spiritually, intellectually.
	No, no, no, no.
	Believe me, he is fine.
	He might be.
	Now, Kamala might have been a different story because she is just retarded.
	There's no, I mean, there's no, she is, there has never been.
	We had a president, Woodrow Wilson, who had a stroke, who was incapacitated.
	And I think his wife, Brandon, He was better than she was.
	She might have been, not only emotionally, she might be a sot, an inebriate, a crappulous dipsomaniac.
	Did you see this hostage video that she did the other day?
	Where she says, don't you ever lose your freedom to do your F-X-O!
	It sounded like those 4 o 'clock in the morning.
	I love you, baby!
	Who is this?
	It was bizarre.
	And next thing you know, she did another video with her husband in the same clothes.
	I mean, this is embarrassing.
	Just let me announce the results of the poll that we did today.
	We did 2,000 people almost voted on YouTube.
	Is Hunter Biden's pardon for justice?
	And 8% said yes, justice was served.
	And 89% said no, he shouldn't be above the law.
	And 3% said other.
	A pardon is nothing to do with being above the law.
	Donald Trump, you know who Jared Kushner is, right?
	Jared Kushner is married to Ivanka.
	Okay?
	And Ivanka's mother was...
	Ivana.
	Are these clever people Ivana?
	Ivanka.
	Okay.
	There's Sean and my son Shonk.
	Could you have made me come up with Jerry?
	In any event, Jared Kushner's father, did you ever hear that story?
	He was pardoned.
	He was charged with trying to set up a prostitute with his...
	Anyway.
	He did his time, and he made a mistake, and he's on the straight and narrow now, and that's precisely what a pardon is.
	That's what you do.
	You pardon people who've done something wrong.
	Is justice served?
	No!
	If I said to you, Sean, I'm going to pardon you.
	For what?
	No, I didn't do anything.
	There's no such thing as pardoning somebody.
	So, with all due respect to your wonderful clientele, your listenership, everybody has been found guilty.
	The question is, would you have respected Biden if he said, no, I'm not going to pardon my son?
	And did they go after him?
	Yes.
	And did they give him a hard time?
	Yeah.
	Not the only one, but of course they did.
	I don't know what your laws are.
	In the UK, as far as guns, you probably don't even have any ability.
	But in our country, we have these things called red flag laws.
	And they sound great, like, well, if, you know, a family member can say that maybe, you know, Sean's acting a little up, he's been drinking a little heavy, elemental health problems will temporarily take your ability to possess a firearm, which is provided for by the Second Amendment.
	Not because we're going to, but because you're, you know, he's just, like, who knows, maybe you're a vet.
	Maybe you came back.
	Maybe you attempted self-harm.
	Maybe you're, and we said, oh, no, no, no, no, no.
	No, we're not going to give you any chance whatsoever to come up with an exception to this.
	So what did they do to Biden?
	They said he violated a federal law because when he signed for his pistol permit or his gun license, they said, are you currently under the influence or addicted to any drugs?
	And he said, no.
	And they said, aha, you lied.
	Guess what he did?
	He came to people like me, who believe in the Second Amendment, and a bunch of conservative types, of which I am not, but others, and basically he used our argument.
	You can't...
	There's no condition to a constitutional right.
	It's like, Your Honor, we're going to ask that you suspend Mr. Atwood's ability to speak temporarily because, you see, he's exhibiting examples of non-compensis.
	And you see, just until he gets a clearance, who clears him?
	We'll clear him.
	No!
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	They may sound good, but I don't give you any ability.
	This isn't a driver's license.
	You know, free speech is a right.
	A privilege is one thing.
	You can say, well, maybe he can't drive, he can't see, you know, something like that.
	But not this.
	So, interestingly enough, a lot of people who are on Hunter's side are people from my side of the aisle, and they say, yeah, you're signaling this person out.
	So he's absolutely correct.
	And you see, remember, Sean, the hardest thing to do is to be fair.
	I'm fair.
	If there's something that's right, if you're right, I don't care who you are, I'll say you're right.
	He's got a point.
	He's absolutely correct.
	Or sometimes President Trump is wrong and has been wrong.
	He's wrong with a lot of things.
	But that's the way it goes.
	But I'm going to say it.
	I'm not like one of these Fox news people who...
	You know, just this ridiculous obeisance that they have to everything that's Trump.
	So, that may have confused me.
	Did you ever look at the people that Bill Clinton pardoned?
	Oh, Mark Rich?
	Mark Rich at the last minute.
	I think it was the last.
	This guy was a fugitive!
	And his wife, Denise Rich, was a big fundraiser.
	And I think Eric Holder was the one who actually signed.
	Yeah, Eric Holder.
	They couldn't get anybody to sign off on this pardon.
	For Mark Rich, nobody.
	But Eric Holder, who eventually became the Attorney General.
	He pardoned his half-brother, Roger.
	Who was buying the white powder, and when he was buying it, he said to the cop, some of this is for Bill.
	He's got a nose like a vacuum cleaner.
	But that's, listen, again, do you have that right or not?
	And I met him.
	He was a hell of a nice guy.
	I mean, the thing is, is that, do you have the right to pardon?
	You're going to be pardoning despicable people.
	He doesn't say pardon nice people.
	People who, you know, I like when they pardon people who've been dead.
	We're going to clear Jesse James, you know, from 300 years.
	That doesn't do any good.
	So, listen, I've got no problem with that.
	You see, Sean, you've got to understand something.
	I don't have any belief in the morality or the wisdom of human beings.
	I hate most people.
	I expect nothing.
	Dogs and animals are true.
	They will tell you.
	There are very few humans, my wife notwithstanding, but very few humans who I can really trust.
	Humans just do, they're despicable.
	They're horrible.
	Look at what we're doing.
	Look at what we do.
	How we kill people.
	There are people, little kids in Gaza being I don't give a damn what happened on October the 7th.
	This has nothing to do.
	What are you doing?
	And I'm walking around.
	Is it me?
	Am I crazy?
	Maybe it's me.
	Do you ever think like that?
	Maybe I just don't get it.
	Maybe I'm from another planet.
	Maybe I lack some ability to appreciate this psychopathy which poses as politics.
	But when you get thusly disheartened, doesn't it lead to...
	How do you pronounce it?
	Nealism.
	You know, the idea of having a name for nothing, I think, kind of says it all.
	No, I believe in, to use this term, I think it's been overused, and thanks to John Mearsheimer, I'm just a realist.
	I know what people do.
	I know what...
	It's like when you have a little...
	Like when your son...
	He'll take something.
	He doesn't understand what he's doing.
	He'll say, hey, that's mine.
	Mine, yours.
	What the hell are you talking about?
	I want that.
	They don't want to eat it.
	People are like that.
	We pretend.
	Look at Keir Starmer.
	Look at your people.
	He's walking around saying, you know, I think that perhaps maybe there may have been a problem where there's a lot of people tearing across the border.
	You just figured...
	What?
	Crudeau in Canada.
	Everybody now is acting like, well, this is wrong.
	Where have you been?
	What happened?
	Because I'm losing.
	That's what happened.
	When I saw Keir Starmer slobbering all over Biden, begging to fire long-range missiles into Russia, that was his true colors right there.
	I told you, Jacob Rees-Mogg is my favorite.
	There's a documentary or something on him.
	He's my favorite because he is just...
	If you called him up at 3 o 'clock in the morning, do you think he would sound like that?
	Probably not.
	But he's pretentious and funny because he's like that.
	But there's something really there.
	It's like Trump.
	Trump will say, don't let me fool you.
	There's something here.
	I'm legit.
	I may have fun.
	I may say some crazy things.
	But I'm true blue.
	And it's very difficult for you to find things that he says that you're absolutely 100% against.
	But starting with this, there is nobody but nobody who can explain to me how Illegals pouring over a border with unaccompanied children, little kids, a million who are lost, turned over to trafficking cartels.
	I have to explain this to you, and we have people in our country, people in our country, like, you know, their names, Mayorkas and others, who sit there, and they're psychopaths.
	They look you in the eye.
	They have no sense of shame.
	Nothing.
	Anthony Fauci, how that son of a bitch isn't in prison, I don't understand it.
	Do you know what they made the world go through?
	And when we do stuff, the world follows.
	I will never, ever, and I'm careful what I'm saying now, I will never, ever be able to understand how we did this.
	There is nothing at all special about the human condition.
	We have turned our back on humanity and common sense throughout history.
	We don't learn from anything.
	We are devoid of any kind of common sense.
	We are the most stupid people.
	I don't know if you see this, but I'm still seeing people driving around in cars with a mask.
	I don't under, or walking around with a mask under their chin, like it's a part of a...
	Maybe this is just us.
	And I want to take these people, take them to a medical school, sedate them, and investigate the part of their brain that allows them not to understand that you don't need to wear a mask in a car by yourself.
	It doesn't make any sense.
	It's like leaving the cast on.
	After your leg has mended.
	I don't understand it.
	You'll see they have the same brain size as lemmings.
	So Craig Dunn is asking, will Fauci be pardoned by Biden next?
	I hope to God no.
	Something tells me that Biden is going to be secretly one of us.
	And I think he realizes that he, Fauci, is one of them.
	It's us and them.
	There are the good guys and there are the bad guys.
	There are the people who are responsible for...
	Look, I don't even know where you want to go, but they're actually right now still talking about...
	Just for a second.
	Just when I think...
	Because in this country you go crazy.
	But I have such admiration for the cool that Vladimir Putin has been able to maintain with all that's going on.
	And he does this new thing.
	He says, I have something new for you.
	What is it?
	It's a hypersonic.
	What is it?
	Watch this.
	What's that?
	It's this kinetic thing that looks like lightning.
	It's not nuclear.
	I'm just going to take out half everything.
	It's just kinetic.
	Force equals mass times acceleration.
	I'm going to take this mass.
	And I'm going to go, I don't know, 30,000 miles an hour.
	What?
	I'm going to forget the notion of nuclear.
	It's no nuclear.
	Don't worry about it.
	I'm not going to do that.
	By the way, remember, thermonuclear bombs don't have, they're not fissile, so you don't have that fallout.
	The new bombs, new thermonuclears, they just destroy everything.
	But there's no, there's no, don't worry.
	Good news, folks.
	There's no radiation.
	There's just complete devastation.
	We're seeing this, and I'm thinking, are you watching what he's doing right now?
	And how about Zelensky, the masked man, can I talk to you?
	No!
	Listen, I want to talk to you.
	I just, have you noticed he's desperately trying, how about a ceasefire?
	Ceasefire?
	No, no, no, no.
	See, you're not firing anything on this.
	No, no, I'm the ceasefire.
	You're not...
	You've got to be able to fire before you order the seats.
	And the first thing I say, Mr. Zelensky, can I ask you a question?
	Are you the guy who used to play the piano with your pecker?
	Is that who you are?
	Is this who you are?
	Did you do this?
	When did you go from dancing like this to being the head?
	How did this happen?
	Where did this...
	You know, Sean, the bad guys always make the story implausible to make you say, is this really?
	It's like when they gave the world Kemala, this idiot.
	The first time you heard it, you thought, is this?
	They always do something to make you question your own sanity.
	They pick this fool.
	It's incredible.
	And I feel so sorry for the Ukrainians.
	I'm sorry.
	Did you see that Joe Rogan declined having him on?
	I think he's doing the Dance of the Dying Fly right now.
	Oh.
	Now, did Lex Friedman say...
	Did Lex Friedman okay that?
	Or did he...
	I heard something about Lex maybe might be doing this.
	Oh, is he?
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	I'm asking you.
	I heard somebody suggest he might.
	I would stay away from that guy.
	Oh, he is going to stink like a...
	Joe Rogan, by the way, certain things happen.
	Elon Musk, Joe Rogan.
	I don't know if anybody ever saw this coming or how this came about or if they knew this would come about.
	But when he gave the...
	And we always knew he was going to endorse Trump.
	Dana White, his best friend.
	Come on.
	We knew this.
	But when he did, he made Trump cool.
	Everybody in this country loved him.
	Do you know we have in Pennsylvania the Amish?
	You're familiar with them.
	You know, with a beard and they're living in, I don't know, the 12th century.
	They ride on buggies and they churn their own butter.
	I don't know what they do.
	But we kind of laugh at them, like the Mennonites, too.
	I don't know what to want, but they always have the beard, and they're in the buggies, and, you know, they're living.
	And we kind of say, well, guess what happened?
	They turned over Pennsylvania.
	They came out of nowhere.
	And Trump won the Amish!
	Now, what these poor bastards are going through, listen to this, they just want to sell raw milk and things like that.
	The FDA, the government was like SWAT teams on these peaceful people.
	Well, they said, you know what?
	We're not going to forget this.
	The Amish came out in...
	It's incredible.
	Black people in the United States, the black barbershop is the cultural, the focal point of the African-American urban.
	It's where the men go, and they love Trump.
	He went there.
	He shows up at a McDonald's and they shut down the city, even though they said, listen, you can't go to that McDonald's.
	It's not that it's an act, but you can't go there.
	The people of Pennsylvania said, we don't care.
	Maybe we'll just see him.
	People waited two days to see him at a rally.
	And they had to wait overnight.
	At Madison Square Garden here in New York, where I am, they waited days.
	And I'm thinking to myself, is this New York?
	There were people standing outside with MAGA hats and everything that you can imagine.
	Black, white, gay, Asian.
	I'm telling you, we've never seen anything like this.
	He destroyed...
	These borders, these people.
	And it's spread throughout.
	He also has, you know, you see the YMCA thing, right?
	The YMCA dancer doing?
	Which is this gay bathhouse.
	Okay, fine.
	Nothing wrong with that.
	But of all the songs, YMCA, it doesn't matter.
	Everybody is loving it.
	Because it's like the shibboleth.
	It's this mantra.
	Going back to what you were talking about, Ukraine.
	So, you've got these crackpots talking about giving Ukraine nukes to fire into Russia now.
	What do you think of that?
	I...
	You know, you have to say...
	I don't even know.
	You know, where do you start?
	Where do you start?
	Do you think that if there was a phone call between Zelensky and Putin, and if he says, listen, Vlad, wait, wait, wait, wait, listen, this is, listen, these crazy bastards want me to get nukes.
	So what can we do to make them think that maybe we're serious?
	I'll tell you what, take the nukes, threaten me, I'll know it's a joke.
	And I'll threaten you.
	And let's see if they...
	And I'm going to send the first one to Brussels.
	Right there.
	That's where I'm going to send it.
	Not to Ukraine.
	Let's...
	What will it take?
	What...
	Do you know who Victoria Nuland is?
	You know who these people are?
	These are the...
	She is the undersecretary.
	She's basically a war hawk, a war profiteer.
	Her husband is...
	The Kagan's and the Institute for the Study of War.
	And these are the Hawks.
	And they love NATO.
	And NATO is basically a franchise.
	And if there's no Russia, there's no NATO.
	So if you and I are in NATO, it's like we have a...
	We talked about it last time.
	It's like a chippy franchise.
	You've got to buy our supplies, our weapons, so that we can protect you from Russia.
	And Russia's thinking, I don't want you.
	So they're lured into this.
	And we've already been through this after.
	In fact, there's a great piece where Jeffrey Sachs went through this and how they lied to Gorbachev.
	Anyway, we know about this.
	But the problem that I have in my country, the people who watch that stupid Fox News believe that Putin somehow wants to reform the Soviet Union and wants to take Poland back.
	He had this great line.
	Putin said, anybody who doesn't miss the Soviet Union doesn't have a heart.
	Anybody who wants to go back doesn't have a brain.
	They really believe this stuff.
	They're trying to goad Putin, I think, into dropping hypersonic on some NATO facility in Poland so they can say, look, we told you!
	He's attacking Poland now!
	He's Hitler!
	Well, this is the Gleiwitz.
	This is what got us into what Hitler did.
	The Polish, remember the radio station, the Gleiwitz incident?
	They'll do a false flag.
	They'll do something easy.
	What I'm worried about here, because I always put myself in the position, we have people here in this country who believe that Iran sponsors everything.
	Iran is the Octopus.
	Pardon me?
	We say Aaron's the octopus.
	Yes.
	Right.
	It's everything.
	It's everything.
	When I was a kid, I was raised in the South in Florida.
	We had these guys who talked like this.
	And one guy knew he would talk like this.
	He goes, let me tell you something.
	If you're going to go to that carnival, I want you boys to be careful.
	What is it, Uncle Dave?
	You better watch out for them morphodites.
	I said, what?
	The morphodites.
	I said, a morphodite?
	You mean a hermaphrodite?
	No, a morphodite.
	Watch out for them.
	See a 13-year-old boy like you, next thing they're all over you.
	I said, who are they?
	And I never found out.
	But that was his word.
	So that was the fill-in-the-blank for any bad guy with a morphodite.
	They're going to get you.
	So we have these evil people.
	Remember after 9-11, they said, why did they do this?
	They hate our freedom.
	Who?
	They.
	Who were they?
	I don't know.
	And we went through this because we were so upset with 9-11, we wouldn't go anyplace else.
	So the question is, what I worry about is if I worked for, let's say I was a...
	An unscrupulous person.
	I'd have a false flag so fast, and I'd say, courtesy of Hezbollah, I'd detonate something in the middle of I don't know what, Piccadilly Circus, the Holland Tunnel, Las Vegas, someplace.
	And you would say, see?
	Everybody will get upset.
	This is Hegelian dialectic.
	Problem, reaction, solution, you know?
	Do something.
	Keep us safe.
	Okay, we'll do it.
	See what we mean?
	You're right about Iran.
	See what I told you?
	You're right about them.
	How have they been able to maintain their cool after their embassies have been bombed?
	That is an act of war.
	I don't understand this.
	And Sean, there are people in my country here who hate Iran.
	I'm saying, what have they done?
	In 1953, we had Operation Ajax, where we went, and Mossadegh was the democratically elected leader.
	And we said, oh, no, no, because he was a nationalized oil.
	And we put in this Shah, Mossadegh.
	We did it!
	Kermit Roosevelt, Theodore Roosevelt's son, or whatever.
	We did this.
	In 1979, with the hostage situation, they said, we've had enough of this.
	You have a CIA center here called the embassy.
	Did you ever hear the story where they shredded everything?
	They shredded all the documents.
	So the Iranians said, we got all these kids together.
	We said, listen, everybody put these together.
	Here's a puzzle.
	And they re-attempted.
	I don't know how they did it.
	Thousands of pounds of this stuff and they're reading.
	And I thought, how can they not hate us?
	How?
	I don't understand.
	And then I visited Arizona when I was a teenager and the Shah was living in Paradise Valley.
	The Shah of Iran.
	But also, there were people who...
	Some people liked the show.
	Not everybody liked a theocratic.
	Remember during the show when they had all the women had nose jobs?
	They were and they bleached their skin.
	They wanted to become westernized.
	Let me tell you something.
	What I would do is I'd love to go in and I want to work under psyops.
	I want to go in and I want to breed revolution.
	Not cause it.
	Breed it.
	Can I tell you what's going to happen here in my country?
	What I want to do?
	If Trump is smart, I don't think they're going to do it because I don't think they're that evil.
	See, what I want to do is, I don't worry about the Republican Party.
	I want to destroy the Democratic Party.
	And I don't want to do it in any way violently.
	I want to go in and there's a woman named Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, AOC.
	And she is this...
	Young.
	She just turned 35. She's kind of a lefty.
	She was a Bernie fan.
	And people think she's dumb.
	She's smart as a whip.
	And she is, the Democrats hate her.
	Nancy Pelosi hates her because she's this leftist, they call the squad, very pro-Palestinian.
	Pro-Bernie Sanders.
	Leftist, progressive, democratic, socialist.
	Good.
	She is the natural enemy.
	It's like releasing a fly or a mosquito that's neutered.
	She destroys the other faction of the Democratic Party, which is more conservative.
	Nancy Pelosi, those people.
	So I want to help her out.
	And I want to have Elon secretly fund Promote her.
	Make her big.
	Kind of the way Israel created Hamas to get after Fatah and Arafat.
	Sometimes it blows up in your face, but the idea is that you create this counterbalance.
	And then I want there to be complete and total disharmony in the Democratic Party.
	The Republicans, Trump's party, everybody gets along.
	Everybody is just.
	There's no dissent.
	None!
	I've never seen anything like this.
	I mean, it's really scary.
	And I want this to spread around the world.
	Because this liberalism, it's a wrong term.
	Whatever this version is, it's a mental disease.
	It's a psychopathy.
	It's not real.
	It's not a political.
	There are people who want to do things just to disrupt stuff.
	They want to take your beloved son, and if he one day...
	He's in school and says, you know, sometimes I feel maybe like a girl.
	That's it.
	He's gone.
	Next thing you know, your kid's gone.
	You come home and you say, where's Ziggy?
	There's a note from school.
	He says that you're keeping him from identifying with his true self.
	Therefore, we've taken him away from you.
	This happens all the time.
	This is what these pastors want.
	You're getting asked if you think the security cameras being turned off across London the other day could possibly be a precursor to a false flag incident that could be blamed on Iran or Russia.
	What do you think?
	Does that logically make sense if it were to happen?
	The answer is yes.
	Well, look what happened to Jeffrey.
	Jeffrey's cameras went off, didn't they?
	Well, that's a different story.
	But the same chain of events.
	Well, they didn't go off.
	They were on the tapes or whatever, the recordings.
	They were seized.
	See, I think, by the way, that is nothing.
	Now watch this segue.
	Watch this, Atwood.
	Watch this.
	Nothing compared to Diddy.
	Diddy will bring everything down because they're cannibalizing themselves.
	Have you noticed this?
	They're coming out of the floor.
	They're like ferrets.
	And this one's trying to get ahead.
	And I know Diddy.
	And I told you.
	And I warned you.
	And what about this?
	And Shug.
	Epstein's like, I mean, Jeffrey, rather.
	It's quiet.
	It's kind of like just quiet.
	Somebody has the Nope, no problem.
	Just to remind you, we have them very, very quick.
	We had him.
	But this, this is almost, this is going to destroy rap, black entertainment.
	It's like what crack did to the inner city.
	They're going to cannibalize each other.
	And nobody knows who's, they don't even know who they're upset with.
	What's wrong?
	Have you noticed this?
	They're so angry.
	And then you get these people who want to be the influencers.
	They're doing everything they can.
	Well, I've got to say something even more outrageous than the others, and pretty soon it's just nuts.
	And the best part is, Diddy, do you want to get out?
	I say, no, I think I'll stay here.
	It's a little bit safer here.
	Diddy doesn't have to threaten anybody.
	Just let him talk.
	I've never seen any...
	If you can follow all of the players and all of the accusations, good for you.
	If we have one of those...
	You know how they have the red string, and then we're in the, you know, we're in the, like, MI6, and the, okay, you see Diddy's here, and then here we have Cassie, and Shug, and over here, and it's just this, who's going to rat up?
	How you can keep track of that, I have no idea.
	What did you think about Elon's tweets calling for the release of the Diddy and the Epstein lists?
	Oh, well, interesting.
	He is just, he is a shisa thrower.
	He is just having fun.
	He's just having so much fun.
	I keep saying, I don't want the list.
	I want the videos.
	What is with you and this list and this black book?
	Do you not understand what this is about?
	Who cares about that?
	I don't care about that.
	I don't care about the black book.
	Does Lionel think Trump is going to make things better?
	Absolutely.
	I beg to differ.
	That's okay.
	One of the things which we need, and this is important, is we need a cataclysm.
	Here in New York, in the Lower East Side, there's a place called CBGB's.
	It's this little nondescript place.
	And who shows up there?
	The Ramones, Talking Heads, Blondie.
	Changed music.
	There was another confluence of pistols and people said, I didn't like that music.
	It doesn't matter.
	It shook everything up.
	And you need this.
	You need to be this cataclysm.
	Trump has made, name one politician anywhere that has made politics Or gets as much attention as Trump?
	Anybody?
	Who?
	Who?
	Tony Blair?
	Georgia Maloney?
	Maybe Mele?
	Mussolini?
	I mean, I know.
	I'm serious.
	I don't know anybody who has done this much to make this cool.
	And people love it.
	You have no idea.
	You mentioned...
	TDS, Trump derangement syndrome.
	I have friends of mine.
	I've lost friends.
	I have lost.
	And I think, good.
	I don't need them anyway.
	But they hate him.
	And their whole politics is hating Trump.
	They don't have any position.
	They don't have any position.
	Well, what do you think?
	Son of a bitch!
	You see what Trump did today?
	Well, what do you want?
	Are you going to vote for...
	Okay, Mila.
	I'll vote for anybody.
	Okay, fine.
	But what is your worldview?
	Anybody but Trump.
	Yeah, I got that.
	But what do you want?
	I mean, I don't know, but you have no idea.
	There are people who just lose their minds.
	And you ever watch Lefties Losing It on Sky with, oh, they have these, just kind of these, kind of a compilation, Sky out of Australia.
	It's called Lefties Losing Anyway.
	We have the last vestiges of these people, the Rachel Maddows and others, who just don't have anything anymore.
	And we watch them in amusement.
	Remember when...
	This is before your time, but remember when I was a kid, Carnaby Street was this like...
	The mods.
	And it was the, what were they called?
	The teddy boys before that.
	But anyway, but there were the mods and Carnaby Street and psychedelic.
	And then it got stupid.
	You notice that?
	All of a sudden they said, okay, that's not funny anymore.
	That's stupid.
	What?
	No, no, we don't do that anymore.
	You don't?
	Bell bottoms.
	Hey, those are cool.
	We don't do that anymore.
	Disco.
	That was great.
	We don't do that anymore.
	Really?
	No.
	Long hair, beetle haircuts.
	Don't do that anymore.
	Goth.
	Spiked hair.
	Don't do that anymore.
	Certain things just run out.
	And when you bet, you want to catch them.
	It's like the Japanese soldier who didn't know the war was over and they had to come in personally.
	That's these people.
	It's like you've lost.
	You've lost.
	You're hanging on to something.
	You're singing a song.
	It's over.
	Disco's dead.
	You're on AM.
	We're not even on FM.
	They don't know what to do.
	They're stuck.
	And I love them.
	Because you've got to understand, Sean, I'm a first-class prick.
	I call these people up and I always say, how does it feel?
	Does it feel?
	Everything about your life is over.
	We've won.
	We've won.
	And it's just...
	Because I'm terrible.
	I'm an awful, terrible person.
	And it's schadenfreude.
	It's sadism.
	Because I hate these people.
	They made me go through hell, and I'm not going to go through what we went through, but I'll never forget that.
	But remember, it's not over with yet, because these bastards are sitting back waiting.
	It's like, we're not going anywhere.
	Wait till you see round two of this stuff.
	I think you know what I'm talking about.
	There's always going to be Luddites and dim-witted anachronisms.
	Do you find it funny that years ago all the Libs wanted peace and less government?
	Yes.
	And now it's the Trump people wanting that.
	Well, the Libs want more and more government.
	Yes.
	Let's bomb, bomb, bomb.
	When I was a kid, see, I'm 66, so I was born in 58. So when I was a kid, like, I was 11 years old.
	It was 1969, and it was Woodstock.
	And the Vietnam War, really the 70s were really the 60s.
	And so we were...
	I was anti-war, and we had great music, and we're for women's rights, gay rights, civil rights, and the liberals, they wouldn't even call liberals, they kind of won.
	They won.
	There's no war.
	So they say, well, now what do we do?
	Then there was the, quote, angry white guy.
	This was a guy who came around, rushed Limbaugh, felt completely left out.
	Tired of this stuff.
	Affirmative acts.
	Remember the word PC?
	Politically correct.
	Remember how quaint that was?
	We quaint.
	This is before pronouns.
	Well, anyway, all of a sudden, these folks, for the longest time, because the pendulum, of course, swings, but sometimes it comes back like a wrecking ball.
	Well, now, we're kind of saying, well, you know, we're rational.
	Think about what we want.
	What do we want?
	No war.
	Leave me alone.
	I want to say what I want.
	Don't hurt me.
	Don't hurt my kids.
	Don't invade my border.
	I don't want crime.
	This isn't a party.
	This is a default.
	This is a no-scheisse type of...
	Well, yeah, of course.
	That's the way it is.
	The left became...
	I don't know what happened.
	Then came Trump.
	Now, what happened was, if I said, okay, Sean, this is diazepam.
	This is a benzodiazepine.
	This is like a Valium, okay?
	It's pretty, try it.
	It's okay.
	Okay, now, take this with a shot of this.
	The alcohol will potentiate this.
	Boom!
	That's what Trump did.
	Trump came in and just like, he shook it up like a cocktail.
	And it exploded.
	And he went into people and activated parts of their psyche.
	They never were there.
	Can you imagine the first person who ever discovered fermenting stuff made you drunk?
	He probably said, you're not going to believe this.
	I know it smells bad.
	Drink this.
	Isn't that weird?
	Yeah.
	I think I can mimic this.
	I didn't know we could do this.
	I didn't know what getting drunk meant until I tried this.
	And I like it.
	That's what Trump did.
	He enacted or activated or potentiated the part of the brain, this atavistic weird thing, where people just went crazy.
	And it satisfied them.
	And here's the best part.
	You know who hates him?
	White women.
	And the people that are...
	I've got a friend of mine who was in the comedy world.
	He said, white women, unmarried.
	You know the line that JD Van said about the cat ladies, unmarried, childless?
	I know you're not supposed to say that, but look at the people who were the...
	I don't know if you have them.
	The people who sit in the front seat of their car screaming and yelling?
	Women.
	Something happened to women.
	I don't know men like this.
	The people who are screaming, cutting their hair.
	I don't understand where they came from.
	But it's really affected, I hate to say it, women.
	And the people who are the most tedious.
	I'm crazed here.
	The lunatics.
	You can go through all of the TV stations here.
	Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid, The View.
	I don't know if you know who these people are, but they're all women!
	And they're all crazy!
	Nuts!
	Crazy!
	Something happened.
	It's like, I don't know what happened.
	And when you say, oh, you're a sexist.
	No, I'm just observant.
	Alright, next question.
	With the pardon of Biden, Trump should bring back Gates, even though Gates stepped out of Congress and he has only been accused of these things.
	What does Lionel think Gates' next move will be?
	He'll probably run for governor of Florida or senator.
	You know, the easy money says Gates is a problem.
	Gates has this, you know, Talk about 17-year-olds, and I say, good.
	Not that that's a good thing, but if it drives people crazy, good.
	He's smart.
	He knows what he's talking about.
	Nobody cared about what Hunter Biden was doing.
	I know he's not an elected official, but when he was with hookers and doing crackpipes, and God knows what's on those tapes, God knows what's on his laptop, and God knows what he did with members of his own family.
	Who knows?
	But nobody seemed to care about that.
	So the enemy of my enemy is my friend, so I think he will be terrific.
	They're going to go after Pete Hegseth, too, from Fox, whatever.
	They're going to claim, good, bring him on.
	Anybody else that drives you crazy, yeah, bring him on.
	I don't care.
	I want to drive these people crazy.
	And if these people are competent and good and know what they're talking about, all the better.
	We have this fellow, Kash Patel.
	Head of the FBI?
	Oh my god.
	This is heaven.
	Bhattacharya?
	For NIH and CDC?
	Oh my god.
	Bobby Kennedy Jr.?
	Oh!
	See, those are people I know we can't talk about it.
	But we can think it.
	You see, Sean, there's a whole bunch of people out there who really want to see vindication regarding that.
	Dark part of our life.
	They can't wait for this.
	And it's just begun.
	Okay, so question abundantly.
	Lionel, what are your thoughts on the World Economic Forum's Agenda 2030, where we will own nothing and love it?
	First of all, this is Klaus Schwab, and this is an underestimation of it.
	It's World Economic Forum, but it's also, this is Agenda 2030, Agenda 21. There was also something called Codex Alimentarius.
	There were all of these weird theories.
	Let me see if I can explain globalism.
	And I also predict one day you will see a resurgence of Alex Jones.
	He will be given his place in the sun because if he can learn, I think he looks like he's getting more in shape and getting back to normal.
	He was the godfather of much of what we're doing right now.
	He set us off into a world.
	Was that?
	Do you see him behind me?
	Do I see?
	Oh, yes, yes, yes.
	I was on his show many times.
	He's learned a lot.
	And what I hope happens is I hope everybody says, okay, are you done with him?
	Good.
	And you're done with this particular court case?
	Good.
	In the bankruptcy?
	Good.
	Doesn't owe any money?
	Yeah, we're all done?
	We're all clear here?
	Okay, good.
	Then Elon says, boom.
	And he now, we don't need him on whatever.
	He's on X, or he's on whatever it is.
	And he's getting $10 million on his lives?
	He's better than...
	Did I?
	I think I told you this story.
	One time I introduced him to a group of people at this talkers convention, this talk radio convention.
	And they thought he was crazy.
	I said, there's one thing about Alex Jones, which is terrific.
	He doesn't just give you an opinion.
	He shows you this is where I got it from.
	This is where I'm thinking.
	He was talking about things.
	I came along, remember when my red pill came, was on that Tuesday morning on the 11th day of September, 23 years ago.
	My whole world changed.
	And he made me say, I remember thinking, it was like they turned the light on.
	And I said, do you mean, oh my?
	And I remember this.
	Everybody goes through this when you can't sleep, when you realize, oh my God.
	Because you kind of knew there were bad people, but you didn't know how bad they were.
	I'm sure there were people, generations before me, World War II, they saw this too.
	But that was my thing.
	And Alex was there from the get-go.
	And then...
	It changed me.
	Absolutely changed me.
	So he's coming back.
	And there are more of us.
	And what Joe Rogan is doing, he's basically talking about the subject, Sean, that you and I couldn't talk about.
	And I can't think of any particular reason why.
	I think I've asked you this.
	What do you wish you didn't know?
	What do you wish you didn't know?
	What information is so bad?
	Misinformation, disinformation.
	What are you talking about?
	Listen, I don't want to tell people what to do, okay?
	But I happen to be very, very concerned about eating.
	And I think what we eat kills us.
	And years ago, I was part like everybody else.
	It was a thing called the Atkins diet, and there was a Scarsdale diet, and the ketosis and everything, and eat fat.
	Okay, fine.
	Until you realize that we're looking at, basically in my country here, about half a million to 700,000 heart attacks every year, and it's not being done by people eating kale.
	And anybody who thinks that you can eat basically beef tallow all day long with your LDL levels going through the roof, if you don't think...
	All right, I'm telling you.
	Do you know that in the Korean War, it was interesting, Korean War...
	It was the first time they had the chance to really look and inspect bodies.
	Young men.
	And they noticed visible, actual naked gross changes to coronary arteries by virtue of autopsies.
	This is 1950.
	Vietnam?
	Oh my God.
	Kids right now, fatty streaks.
	We're seeing lipid levels through the roof.
	And it's not because of...
	Anyway, make a long story.
	I do want to get into this.
	Because...
	People go nuts because they'll go crazy arguing that eating nothing but beef, and I love it, but that you're better off.
	Anyway, long story short.
	Now, if I vehemently disagree with that, and I do, I don't want you to not be able to say that.
	I don't want there to be a tag under you.
	Excuse me, the cardiology.
	No, say it!
	Suzanne Somers, one time, she had her cancer.
	She says, and I'm doing fruit juice.
	What are you talking about?
	That's nuts.
	Say it.
	But it'll kill people.
	Buyer beware.
	If you want to say, I smoke cigarettes, and I think vaping's cool, and vaping...
	Say it.
	I don't care.
	Say whatever you want.
	Let me dissuade you.
	Let me counter that.
	But I don't tell you to stop saying it.
	Don't get me started on religion.
	I'm hearing stuff that's crazy.
	Say it.
	Whatever you want.
	If I don't like it, I go someplace else.
	You're entitled to say nothing you can say has ever hurt me.
	Nothing.
	I don't care about your sexuality.
	Don't hurt children.
	Don't.
	Let me tell you something else.
	I think we talked about this before.
	I'm getting very scared.
	The other day I saw something where AI is going to change everything.
	And there are people right now who are saying that if I put an AI, something of Sean Atwood, saying something or doing something, and it's not you, and it's clearly AI, what is that called?
	I think it's defamatory, maybe.
	The law lags behind technology.
	And what if I'm able to one day say, God, I know this is a terrible subject, but let's say I'm a really unscrupulous child predator, and I say, you know, I'm getting tired of this.
	All the time I have to get a child facing years in prison, I'm just going to have the best AI stuff you've ever seen.
	That'll make your hair curl.
	And in your case, that will be saying a lot.
	But it's not real.
	Is the government going to say, you can't do that?
	Why?
	Because...
	We don't like the idea, but that's a thought.
	But it's a sick thought.
	Well, let me determine if it's a sick thought.
	These are things which we are not ready to handle because we don't have the intellectual capacity or the love of critical thinking to really go through it.
	But that scares me because in as much as I think that's despicable stuff, I don't want you to be able not to be able to speak or to think even a despicable idea if it's just a thought.
	Because when Nabokov wrote Lolita, Or when Locke's daughters were doing this in the Bible, that was a thought or whatever it was.
	So I'm an absolutist.
	You can say anything just so long as you're not, you know, inciting, defamatory per se in the usual prescriptions.
	That's not over with.
	And I hope President Trump, I don't know, I hope he holds my, I think Elon's on my side.
	I hope.
	That's the number one concern.
	All right.
	We've only got about 30 minutes left and there's almost 40 questions outstanding.
	Tapio, Lionel, what do you think about Roger Stone and Alex Jones working for the government to further the Vladislav-Serkov style to a polarization dialectic?
	That's easy for you to say.
	Can you rephrase that in layman's terms, please?
	The question?
	I'm not sure.
	Roger Stone and Alex...
	You know, Roger Stone is...
	I learned a lot from him about the Clintons.
	I've got his books.
	Listen, he is a great...
	He has been around...
	He used to work with a guy named Lee Atwater.
	He is...
	Roger Stone, you don't want him...
	As your enemy, he's a real character, a real bon vivant.
	What they did to him at that 4 o 'clock in the morning ninja raid is horrible.
	So, anyway, he and Alex working together.
	As we say, I'll get back with you on the Vladislav Surkov style 2A polarization dialectic.
	I'll wait for their new album.
	Hasn't Roger Stone got Nixon tattooed on his back?
	Yep.
	A little extreme, but hey, listen!
	Anything to add to this, or do you always go on to the next question?
	Let's just go through the questions.
	I like these.
	All right.
	What are your thoughts on Jordan Maxwell?
	I don't know offhand.
	Should I have one?
	What do you think?
	Let's just keep going to get through these.
	Do you believe Trump, when he said he didn't look at the JFK files under advice, it would upset him?
	No, of course not.
	First of all, there's nothing in the files.
	There's nothing in the files.
	There's nothing that he is going to see that is going to have a picture of something that is in a file.
	The people who are responsible for JFK are dead.
	Why don't we talk about Bobby Kennedy?
	Why don't we talk about that?
	Why isn't Bobby Kennedy's son, Bobby Kennedy, going through that?
	We know the shooter.
	I mean, he's talked about that.
	I don't get that.
	Is Hunter's laptop as bad as Wiener's?
	Okay, Anthony Wiener's laptop.
	They've always talked about this, Anthony Wiener's laptop.
	Remember the story about this?
	I don't want to get too much into detail, but the famous, you know, Hillary Clinton and, you know, Huma and these, you know, it's like a face-off to, you know.
	Look, I've heard about this story.
	I've heard it a million times.
	Where is it?
	Please.
	It's almost this, of all the stories that need to be looked into, especially whoever was involved, allegedly, in this particular activity, it's, I don't want to go into some other stuff.
	Yeah, let's get off it.
	Let's get off it.
	Okay, next question.
	How does the CIA purchase weapons for war without Congress consenting to the purchase for overseas conflicts?
	Well, Iran-Contra is a good example of that.
	Easy.
	Easy.
	National security interests?
	Exceptions?
	Topsy?
	Oh yeah, this is a joke.
	Do you want it?
	And by the way, is there anything that we truly want in terms of a war that has nothing to do with war profiteering?
	Is there anything that is merely an ideological...
	Let me give an example of something.
	In 2005, 2005 maybe, there was, I think in the...
	The Congo, or something along those lines, they had these men, or these soldiers, who would violate women by virtue of different things.
	And I don't want to go into specifics, but it was horrible.
	It was the most incredible thing anybody's ever seen.
	They were suffering from fistulas, and it was this...
	It was so...
	Democratic Republic of the Congo, DRC, they could have stopped this.
	Women being violated.
	Again, I've got to be careful of the language.
	And nobody did anything until somebody said one time, what is their main expert?
	I think it was like, I don't know, chocolate or something.
	And I said, this is the chance where I, me, actively recommend military action to go in there, drop a couple of Apache helicopters into the village and say, that's enough!
	That's enough!
	Nobody did anything!
	They didn't do anything.
	And these poor women, American doctors had to go over there to help women with fistulas.
	These women who were incontinent and had to, it was the most, and I'm saying, somebody do something!
	Women's groups, women's issues, nobody cared.
	Nothing.
	Because if you don't make money, CIA doesn't want to send weapons just to send weapons.
	They want the money.
	Do you know how expensive these things are?
	Do you just turn one?
	One round of anything, one JDAM, just turning on an aircraft carrier, figuratively.
	The logistics, it's all money, and we all know this.
	It has nothing to do with ideology.
	Nothing.
	Just one Halliburton banana in the military chow hall was billed to the taxpayers for $50.
	So Alejandro wants to know, what happened to Oliver North?
	I don't know.
	Where did they go?
	Remember Fawn Hall and the gate he was going to build?
	I don't know.
	We have the attention span of a gnat.
	These people just go away.
	They just leave.
	Oh, Heidi Fleiss.
	Heidi Fleiss and a little black book.
	I don't know.
	Another one!
	Remember we had the Mayflower Madam.
	We had...
	We enjoy these things.
	We titillate them.
	Heidi Fleiss.
	We had the Mayflower Madam.
	Remember years ago?
	The Happy Hooker?
	This was in the 60s.
	Xavier Hollander?
	We used to have...
	Did you hear how in Belgium they want to have now...
	Pensions for sex workers and maternity leave because they're trying to normalize that because it is the goal one day for sex trafficking or sex tourism.
	Oh, Anthony Bourdain.
	This story stinks to no end.
	How is a guy as famous as he was and there was some talk about he was going to To reveal something.
	I don't know.
	But I was a guy who, if you recall, he was at this hotel.
	If memory serves me, four-star someplace.
	He was well-known.
	And he's not seen for, what, four days or whatever it was.
	And nobody checked.
	Nobody went in.
	Nobody...
	Do you buy this?
	See, there's a story that doesn't make any sense.
	Did you remember the story?
	There was a guy we had here in Las Vegas.
	It was the sniper.
	Paddock was his name.
	Opened fire on these people.
	And they walked in and they saw the weaponry that he had, the ammo, the cases.
	There's no way that would have...
	No.
	There's no way that housekeeping would have said, hey, there's a guy here who has ammunition or he took out a windowpane.
	Anyway, the story stunk from the get-go.
	Never followed through with it.
	The Anthony Bourdain story never made any sense.
	Things don't make sense.
	It has to do, when you do police work as a prosecutor, normally it takes a cop or somebody to say, this doesn't make any sense.
	You know, grandma doesn't leave the light on.
	We better go check.
	There's something you see out of the ordinary.
	It's not proof positive, but it inspires more thought.
	It's probable cause versus reasonable doubt.
	We just got tired of that because we're afraid of thinking too much.
	What about Obama's, what was it, this cook or somebody he had, this guy who worked with him?
	He drowned like three feet of water.
	Nobody!
	All of the people who were around Hillary Clinton and the Clintons who died, Vince Foster, they just don't...
	What does it take for you to...
	To have your curiosity peaked, to have somebody say, now if it were Trump, oh, they'd be all over it.
	I don't understand it.
	You can kill people so easily in this country just saying, wait a minute, what?
	What's the matter with you?
	Nothing.
	Are you thinking, what's the matter?
	Do you think I would be so crazy as to, yeah, I do.
	Anyway.
	Question from Flock.
	Vance not being so public versus how Musk has been since the election.
	Is this concerning or is Vance just hard at work behind the scenes?
	Great question, J.D. Vance.
	I do not know.
	Is he feeling jealous?
	Is he feeling jealous?
	I don't know.
	I don't.
	I got the word from somebody.
	You know, there are various levels of There's like the internet and the dark internet.
	But there are these blinds and people who are kind of in the know.
	And a while back, somebody said, keep an eye on J.D. Vance.
	And Trump better watch him very carefully.
	Because this guy is not...
	Beyond claiming that Trump's crazy.
	Trump's got four more years to go.
	He's going to be fine.
	But that's a very good thing.
	You know, it's interesting.
	Do you watch Fox News?
	Is Fox News a big story?
	Good, good, good.
	Forget it.
	Forget it.
	Because, you see, one of the things is what this last viewer or commentator said, which is very good, it's hard to find when things are different.
	Like, we haven't heard from him in a while.
	Where's he been?
	We're so-and-so.
	That takes a very unique, skilled person to notice when things are changed, when people are absent.
	So, he's wondering about the CIA having something to do with the rebels attacking Assad.
	Didn't Obama create ISIS?
	Well, yeah, but first of all, let's lose this CIA.
	I have a story I want to do.
	In my story, I play...
	The grand old man, kind of like in JFK, the Donald Sutherland character.
	And you're the young, you know, the agent.
	And I say to you, son, if there's an organization that you know the name of, it's not the organization.
	The people who do things don't work in a building, they don't have a card, they don't work for the CIA or whatever it is, or the DNI or military, they don't have a name.
	Plausible deniability.
	They don't work.
	They're not on a payroll.
	You can't figure them out.
	You don't know who these people are, like with JFK.
	There's nobody who picked up the phone and said, let's call up our CIA contractors.
	No, you want to get somebody who gets the job done and that you could probably off immediately afterwards.
	If you know the name of people, they're not involved.
	The people who run the world are not Elon Musk and George Soros, because you know who they are.
	They are consortia of other people.
	More powerful than these people ever will be.
	And so we always say CIA.
	We used to be MI6 all the time.
	Here in this country, we used to say NSA, National Security Agency.
	Used to be no such agency was the nickname.
	We don't talk about them anymore.
	So we go through these things.
	So CIA.
	Have you noticed all the people online?
	I'm an ex-CIA person.
	This is the way the CIA used it.
	These are PSYOPs.
	And who's responsible for that?
	The CIA!
	To build up their image about how cool they are.
	Have you noticed all the military stuff?
	SEAL Team 6, Delta Force, MI6.
	Who do you think's behind that?
	Make military cool again.
	Get a bunch of people have a show where people say, I'll never do this again.
	I killed innocent people.
	It was the worst thing that ever happened to me.
	Everybody...
	You're not going to hear that because that's not cool.
	You want some guy with a bunch of tats on to tell war stories.
	And it's PSYOP front and center to perpetuate how cool and how great these people are.
	And by the way, we do need intel and we need the military.
	But if you can't see through this, you're not paying attention.
	So is the deep state just trying to bring a war everywhere it can all over the world before Trump gets in?
	It's not only that.
	I call it the shadow government.
	See, this is this...
	Do you realize the people who run YouTube?
	Probably two people.
	There's like one person, two people, three people.
	There used to be this thing about top secret.
	In Washington, there's about a million people with top secret clearances.
	It doesn't mean anything.
	There are people who have clearances so high, they don't even have a clearance.
	They used to have these five-lettered names.
	Umbra, Ultra, Zebra.
	Three people had them.
	If I work for, let's say, Raytheon or something, and I get a hold of, let's say, God forbid, let's say I get a hold of some interplanetary something or the UAP, EBE, extraterrestrial.
	Anyway, I find something.
	You and I might be the only person on the planet who knows this.
	The president doesn't have access to this.
	So these idea of security clearances and the way intel works, I don't think it's anything the way people say this.
	I think it's a few people.
	And remember, anything you see on TV, do you really think that Victoria Nuland and NATO and the EU, those are the folks really making the decisions?
	Or somebody who decides they hold up a paddle and they vote.
	Bilderberg and others.
	I think that is a Potemkin village.
	Like a movie set.
	It looks good, but that's not how things are run.
	What do you think about the movie Eyes Wide Shut?
	Loved it.
	Now, of course, it was very similar.
	He dies shortly thereafter.
	They have been doing this.
	Since the beginning of time, they have been doing the idea of secret societies.
	Carol Quigley, by the way, Tragedy and Hope, who Bill Clinton was a mentor and others.
	Secret societies since the beginning, since Venetian conspiracies, the Borgias, the papacy, villagers, holy men, shamans.
	Masks, dances.
	It's in us.
	We've never lost this.
	We've been into symbology, semiotics.
	We have done this since the beginning of time.
	And we love to do it especially to the exclusion.
	Look at the Mardi Gras that we have here.
	Brazil, Carnival.
	Look at this.
	There's something about who we are.
	So Eyes Wide Shut is a smaller version of this.
	And we have Yale University has Skull and Bones and other, the Masons and that kind of, people love this.
	So Eyes Wide Shut, absolute template for what goes on.
	Absolutely.
	Sim, what's to know?
	Lionel, do you know anything about the UK being used as a beta test for taking freedom of speech ready for their planned reset?
	Don't know anything about it, but I wouldn't be surprised.
	Look at what happened to Europe with the EU.
	You've got to start someplace.
	You've got to start someplace, and you've got to figure out.
	And I can't believe how much...
	Two things happen.
	You're not fighting back enough, and you're being habituated to it.
	Habituation is this wonderful thing.
	When you put on a watch for the first time, you say, this is kind of clunky.
	Next thing you know, you don't notice it because you habituate, you condition.
	You become used to the stimulus.
	It's not novel anymore.
	And when you keep saying, oh, another story about the poor bastard, they arrested him because he posted something.
	There was a meme that, oh, okay.
	And at first it's horror.
	And then it's habituation.
	And then you say, well, what are you going to do?
	That's what I do.
	I want to wear you down.
	Learn helplessness.
	I want to have you become accustomed to your imprisonment.
	I want you to get tired of it.
	And you look around and say, well, if nobody's going to say anything, what are you going to do?
	You don't need to put somebody in jail to imprison them at all.
	It's like the elephant where you put the chain around its foot and then you tie it to something and then pretty soon the elephant just put the chain on it and it swears, I can't move.
	We are so easily taught and conditioned to just settle down, shut up, and we'll also give you something like social media.
	And if you don't do this, we'll take this away from you.
	And people will say, oh, no, no, no, no, no.
	Do you ever watch arrest movies?
	I love to watch arrest videos on YouTube.
	It's a weird function of mine.
	I'm demented.
	But the first thing people say when they get arrested in our country is, give me my phone.
	Where's my phone?
	Not I'm under arrest.
	Not I'm in handcuffs.
	Where's my phone?
	I'm serious.
	Somebody mentioned the moon landing?
	Do you think the moon landing was real?
	Okay.
	Let me put it to you this way.
	If they told me it wasn't, I would say, I knew it!
	So I can't tell you whether it's real because I really don't have anything, but if you told me that there was absolutely nothing to it, that it was contrived, I would say, Doesn't surprise me at all.
	How much of it...
	What do you need people to say?
	For you to say, God, that's shadows and no stars.
	Remember something.
	I keep telling you what Marshall McLuhan said.
	Little lies are hard to keep secret.
	But big lies are easy.
	Because if you're in credulity, the bigger the lie, the more you're going to...
	The more you're going to refute it.
	Because if everybody says something, you're going to be the only one who says, I don't think that happened.
	One small step for man?
	What?
	And one question about that too.
	If it didn't happen, you know Putin knows it.
	You know with his ass, you know he and China, Xi Jinping, how do they keep it?
	How do they sit there and say they're bringing up this moon landing?
	One of these days.
	I'm going to show them.
	I'm going to show them.
	That's the thing that gets me.
	It would be the biggest death blow to our pride to have somebody say, it didn't happen.
	This is a joke.
	It would destroy everything.
	They brought it up.
	Will Bernie Sanders switch parties?
	Never.
	Never.
	You're going to see the emergence of a third party.
	And you're also going to see the irrelevance of the party system.
	It's going to completely...
	It doesn't mean anything.
	Because you've got Democrats and Republicans and MAGA, for lack of a better word, is a party.
	Will bricks dwarf the dollar?
	Absolutely.
	And what's also interesting is what crypto is going to do.
	They don't even know what...
	They don't even...
	They don't understand that one.
	They don't get it.
	Warren Buffett, he says, well, I don't believe in investing in something I don't understand.
	Well, you don't have to understand how NASA works for you to invest in space technology.
	They don't understand any of this.
	That's the game changer.
	Lionel, when someone told me about crypto when it was like 50 cents, Bitcoin, I said to them, Have you read what Warren Buffett says in his book?
	Don't never invest in something you don't understand.
	Well, but you don't.
	I know.
	And that's okay for a while.
	But there are going to be others as well.
	Remember, don't think like it was just crypto.
	It's not Bitcoin.
	It's crypto.
	They're not the only ones.
	I mean, there are people walking around who...
	I mean, I know people who they've got these numbers.
	They've got the numbers in like four different safes.
	I mean, they are so afraid.
	It's like they're panicky.
	It's like, here's my numbers.
	I've got the codes.
	I said, this is $20 billion.
	They're going crazy.
	I'm serious.
	They don't know what to do about this.
	Here's my account.
	Here's my app, my portfolio.
	This one is, what do I do?
	What if I lose the numbers?
	I don't know.
	Do I keep it here?
	Do I give you half of the numbers and I keep the other half of the numbers?
	I mean, really, people are losing their mind.
	Was Winston Churchill part of mind control?
	With all due respect to my dear friends of the UK, Perfide Albion.
	The Perfidy of Albion.
	This guy was one of the...
	Great for you.
	Absolutely, probably got us into World War II.
	Got us, screwed us over regarding Pearl Harbor.
	It goes so far.
	Edward, who was the Queen Victoria's son?
	Was it Edward VII?
	I forgot.
	That was where it started.
	Tertius Gaudens, the game theory where you and I are fighting, I bring in a third party.
	Kind of takes off the, lets me rest and lets you go at it.
	It was critical for, at that time, I remember during the British supremacy was the sea and it was a different time, but you had to get us into World War II.
	We had nothing to do with it.
	We said, you know what?
	Screw them.
	Germany, Great Britain, France, they can handle this.
	We were done with the war to end all wars.
	Roosevelt says, I'm not going to be, first of all, I'm not going to be siding with a bunch of commies, and I'm not going to make it look like we're fighting over a bunch of Jews!
	And believe it or not, he says, so you can forget it.
	Next thing you know, Pearl Harbor.
	Gee, that was a surprise.
	Take all our carriers out.
	Lo and behold, so he was great for you, but he is not the hero to the United States that we think he is.
	Why has President Carter been in hospice care for four years and is still alive, supposedly?
	This is the best hospice care, I guess.
	You think somebody would say, listen, you've been here too long.
	You're not dying.
	You gotta go.
	Did you see when they brought him out to vote?
	They brought this guy out.
	Did you see?
	It was terrible.
	They brought him out to vote.
	He was on the stretcher.
	And his mouth is in this agape, in this frozen rictus.
	It's just horrible in order to show why the Kamala vote was so important.
	Wasn't still heart-grabbing like George Sr.
	Thank you for your hand, Lionel.
	What do you think about South Africa as a component?
	We are BRICS, but we have the nukes.
	Well, you know, it's interesting.
	South Africa, you always say that...
	Brazil?
	Brazil and South Africa.
	You know, Russia, India, China.
	If you said Rick, that's probably good enough.
	But Brazil?
	Okay.
	South Africa?
	Okay.
	You don't think of the powerhouse, but look how important they are in the indictment, in the ICC and ICJ indictment of Israel.
	That's another story, too.
	Think they know something about apartheid?
	Think there are a little experience in that response?
	See, that's the area where I don't talk about here.
	But, oh.
	Last ten minutes to get your quickfire questions in for Lionel, folks.
	Pearl wants to know about Lady Di's death.
	Let's start off with this question.
	Do you believe the official story?
	No.
	Do you believe the official story that Henri Paul, who is it?
	Was he driving?
	Henri was driving and they said he was drunk out of his mind and he had a point.
	I saw those pictures of him at that bar.
	He didn't look like he was a point three or whatever it was.
	Mohamed Fayyad made a lot of sense.
	And I think one of the guys that I would always be very distrustful of is Philip.
	Philip is the last guy.
	Anybody who says that his goal in life is to come back as a virus, this is one sick son of a gun.
	In any event, if she were pregnant with Dodi's child, the mother of the future king of England, with a Muslim kid, and Mohammed Fayed's Grandson, after the whole Herod's thing, I mean, they're like the last vestige of this way of thinking.
	Now, I'm just saying, that's not good.
	She really, with all due respect, she might have been a wonderful person, but she was a loon.
	I mean, her personal life, what she did, she was very, and probably at the hand of what Charles did, because what she went through was hell, that notwithstanding.
	I don't buy the original story.
	I just don't believe it.
	There's too many things that need explaining, as Desi Arnaz would say.
	And we've interviewed bodyguards of Princess Di.
	It's very suspicious.
	So this question, I'm going to distill it down.
	They're asking about the release of free energy.
	Oh.
	I mean, are we talking about Tesla energy?
	Yeah, as opposed to big oil and big, you know.
	Well, I think anytime you say the word free, I think that pretty much explains the disinclination on their part to pursue this.
	You know, Tesla one day will get the, and not just the car, but Nikolai Tesla will get the notice and the acclaim that he has deserved.
	Could the Menendez have used fear of HIV as a murder defense?
	No.
	I mean, no.
	No.
	Now they're saying one brother may get out, the other one may not.
	Listen, they're already losing interest on that case.
	They already.
	The reason why we talked about it was not just because of the Netflix documentary, but Gascon, the DA who lost.
	Was like 30 points behind and he brought this up to do anything to rekindle interest.
	We talked about that one.
	They are guilty.
	They killed their parents.
	They're not insane.
	There's no legal standard for provocation, as it were.
	Is there ever a situation where a presidential pardon can be rescinded?
	By the president, maybe.
	That would be difficult.
	To un...
	To undo, I guess you could, you could revoke it, I mean, abrogate it.
	It might have, it could be found to be improper if a president were to try to issue a pardon for a state crime versus a federal, that would be on its face invalid, so I don't know.
	Do you know anything about the technology around Flight MH370?
	Oh, no, but I was so into that.
	Do you remember?
	Hillary Clinton, in my recalling, did she bring something up about Bricks Bank or something?
	It was the weirdest.
	I know it was Hillary Clinton.
	And it might have been 370.
	But she had this weird, it was like Charlie Rose or one of the, but she brought up the Bricks Bank.
	And it was this.
	So.
	I'll have to research that, but I don't want to speak out of turn.
	It was fascinating, because didn't two or three Malaysian flights go down in a row?
	Yes.
	So, Kazza, why has nobody else been arrested in the Diddy case yet?
	Because they're talking.
	They're talking, or there's no interest.
	Because, remember, he's being charged with having a racketeering organization, a racketeer.
	Where's the rest of the people, the other part of the organization?
	He's just by himself.
	I don't understand.
	I'm not even sure what he's charged with, very frankly, at all.
	I don't know what he did.
	I mean, trafficking and...
	Well, where are the other co-defendants?
	He did it by himself?
	Where is this conspiracy?
	Just a few minutes left.
	Do you think the JonBenet Ramsey case will ever be solved?
	Yes.
	I heard last time there was a very good story about a fellow who came and they had an open house at the time.
	The open house.
	And there were people who were coming in and there was somebody they were looking at.
	Two things I don't understand.
	How somebody sat down and wrote a letter.
	At the desk.
	And they knew about John's bonus.
	But also, I talked to, years ago, the criminal profiler, John Douglas, who was the inspiration for Scott Glenn's character in Silence of the Lambs.
	And he said, I never thought it was Patsy or the brother.
	Very weird.
	Very strange.
	Patsy, no.
	But the father, absolutely not.
	Because in their bedroom, Douglas told me they had books he had of grieving parents.
	He said that when he found the daughter, he brought her and put her on the couch or the floor and very gently was removing the tape or the...
	And this is not what a killer would do.
	He even showed respect.
	He couldn't believe.
	So it was not the father.
	Remember, didn't the father years ago become romantically involved with the mother of...
	What was her name?
	The daughter who was missing.
	Oh, I'm kidding.
	There's so many missing.
	You know, anybody.
	Forget that.
	But they will find the answer.
	But the problem is, who wrote this note?
	Who sat down and wrote this?
	I don't understand this.
	Because if somebody...
	They said there could have been somebody who was outside.
	So I think one day they're going to find the answer.
	Alright, we're at the hour.
	Is there anything you'd like to say in conclusion?
	What can people look forward to on you and your wife's channel in the coming days?
	Well, right now we're going to be doing...
	Breaking down how the...
	A little bit more about Biden.
	But how Trump is going to transform...
	Everything.
	And it's not just going to affect us.
	It's going to transform everything.
	And with Elon, Tucker, people like Joe Rogan and others, they made this particular aspect of politics cool again.
	So stay tuned at Lionel Nation.
	Mr. Atwood, as always, a pleasure, my friend.
	Thank you, sir.
	Indeed.
	Appreciate you coming on.
	We learned so much.
	Thank you for answering all the questions.
	We will see you next time.
	Cheers.
	Indeed, sir.
	All the best.
	All right.
	Take care.
	Bye-bye.
	What a fantastic guest.
	Thank you for all your questions, folks.
	We've got Chris Todd, I think, about to come on to speak about Jean-Marie Ramsey.
	And also, we may have Matt Cox coming on with breaking news about the Diddy flash drives.
	We are speaking to him presently.
	So these are imminent.
	Let's see what happens in the next couple of days.
	Ron is back full force with his shows.
	Hope you've enjoyed the day-to-day hours and hours of content.
	And we've got tons more coming tomorrow.
	So, take care wherever you are watching in the world.

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