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June 9, 2024 - Lionel Nation
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🔴 Why Brianha Joy Gray Was Really Fired from "The Rising"
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We're going to, quote, weigh in on the Brianna Joy Gray firing and dismissal from, I believe it's next stars, The Hill.
Okay?
And The Rising.
This is Corporate Media, baby.
This is corporate media.
This is, I guess, shareholders and business and, you know, the C-suites and all that stuff.
This is not about freedom of speech.
Let me start off with this right off the bat.
This is not about freedom of speech.
It's about freedom from consequences of speech.
That's a different issue.
Let's get the issues straight here because everybody has their own...
People are celebrating the removal of Brianna from a show most people have never seen, but the torch and pitchfork crowd of social media scrums are moving in, celebrating her demise.
They don't know her from...
It's another one like, yes!
They're saying...
Anti-Semite fired.
Israeli critic fired.
Ex-Bernie Sanders lackey fired.
Radical left fired.
Hamas supporting terrorists loving fire.
That's one side.
The other side.
Free speech advocate.
Palestinian supporter.
Anti-Zionism.
So it depends upon your frame of reference.
Point number one.
What happened?
She was fired.
It's like a Rorschach test.
You tell me what that means to you.
Did they officially say no?
But she was fired abruptly.
After the interview, I'm going to show you what you've seen a million times.
Let's make sure we've got our critical analysis and critical thinking and our issues.
Let's look at this lawyerly.
Let's look at this as an indictment, as a charging instrument.
Let's look at the gravamen of what happened.
There is freedom of speech in this country.
In some cases, with the exception of President Trump, with gag orders, for the most part, you can pretty much say whatever you want and they won't come pounding on your door in the middle of the night.
And take you away.
Now, I can't say that about civil litigation.
I can't say that.
We'll get to this.
Because, you see, what they're going to do next is they're going to say that Breonna was involved in denial.
That she's denying.
Whether she did or not, it doesn't matter.
This is the extrapolation.
This is coming.
That she's denying October 7th.
She's an October 7th denier.
You can't deny.
You can't be an election denier.
You can't...
Alex Jones was a Sandy Hook denier.
I used to say revisionist.
Remember, Holocaust deniers were also called historical revisionists.
Now, I got news for you.
I'm a revisionist of everything.
Tolstoy said history would be a wonderful thing if only it were true.
So 99% of all history that we receive, 99%, is false.
So we're revising it, okay?
So the next point is, this is where it's going next.
This is where it's going next.
Because remember, it's not enough.
You know, the notion of lawfare, this idea of finding new ways to silence critics and to win elections, has nothing to do with maintaining the integrity of the First Amendment or the spirit of it.
It's nothing to do with it.
You've got to keep your eyes open and be dispassionate and say, this is where we're going.
It's like watching a cancer.
It's like watching a disease.
It's like watching mold grow on bread.
It's going here and it's going there.
You just react.
You don't say, should there be mold on the bread?
Who left the bread out?
No!
Just point it out.
Here's the mold and it's spreading.
This is the cancer and it's spreading.
Free speech is free.
The consequences of what we're talking about.
Not the speech.
The consequences.
And if Breonna Joy Gray thinks that she can say anything she wants and maintain her job, you're crazy!
Whoever thinks this?
You're nuts!
If you went on MSDNC and said, I think DEI is a cracker, you know what?
I think affirmative action.
I think, oh, you crazy, crazy lefty bastards.
You'd be fired.
As is their right.
It's called continuity.
In radio, we called it stationality.
If you're in a country music station and you're playing Debbie Gibson's You Light Up My Life, no!
You have a right to play that.
Go someplace else.
Next rule, remember this.
Kids, write this down.
It's your Uncle Lenny here.
Somebody call me Lenny.
I know what I'm talking about.
Pick the hill you want to die on.
If this really means something to you...
If this really, really means something to you, whatever the issue is, and we're getting to the clip, so just stick with me now, I've got to say this, then go and say it, and die on it.
Now, here's the issue.
Brianna is speaking to a woman whose sister or relative died, tragically, was died, kidnapped, murdered, what have you, on October the 7th.
Absolutely horrible.
Nobody.
But nobody, nobody says, well, they had it coming.
Nobody.
I don't know many.
There might be some in some Hamas camps, but I don't hear.
And Brianna, and I watch her, and Breaking Points, and all of the...
I watch everything.
And she never said that.
Okay?
But there are some...
So you've got to understand the background that Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate and others have detailed that call into question the veracity and the sourcing and the actual evidence involving a lot or some or certain incidents of these October the 7th atrocities.
Based upon what others believe to be a lack of proof.
But that's over there.
But understand something.
If you don't know this, you're going to think, how can anybody deny this?
There are people questioning what happened on October the 7th, okay?
Far more who, and I'm not a scholar on this, I'm telling you this is what people are saying.
Do you hear what I'm saying?
This is what people are saying.
You got that?
Good, good, good, good, good.
Now, let's move on.
One more phrase and then we'll go to a clip.
F. Scott Fitzgerald said one time that little lies are hard to keep quiet, keep secret, but big lies are easy because of our incredulity.
Rephrased.
When somebody makes a claim that let's assume, let's assume is horrific.
October the 7th.
Claims involving the Gilgo...
Beach murderer here on Long Island.
A story incident that involves stories that are horrible.
For you to call into question the veracity of the story alleging horror makes you seem like an animal.
Because remember, little lies are hard to keep secret.
But big lies are easy because of our incredulity.
Not our incredulity in terms of the story, but our inability to focus with the horror.
Okay.
Here is the moment in question.
Okay?
This is it.
This is the interview.
This was at the very end.
Now, this is Brianna's I'm listening to you face.
The woman on the right, her sister, I believe, relative, was killed tragically.
She's speaking out regarding Hamas.
And Brianna was absolutely perfect.
Perfect.
As one could be throughout the interview.
Just listening.
It's at this very last second when the guest gets this little, I don't want to say dig, but a clear reference to Brianna where the eye-rolling and the subsequent termination occur.
Thank you.
Me too.
And I really hope that you specifically will believe women when they say that they got hurt.
Alright.
Thanks for joining.
Stick around.
More writing coming.
Thank you.
Now let me say something.
This is the point.
I'm going to watch this again.
Okay?
They're making it sound.
And this is almost like we're doing a kind of a Zapruder breakdown back and to the left here.
But they're making it sound as though she's Rolling her eyes at the woman's story, her story, her pain, her allegations.
No, that's not what happened.
Breonna was rolling her eyes because the guest says, and one more thing, Breonna, I hope you pay attention.
And you believe women, kind of like that.
I don't want to say me too.
I don't even want to describe.
But you remember the same argument that we have to believe victims.
We have to believe people.
We have to believe.
This was meant to her.
It's not about the event of October the 7th.
This was a personal, I don't want to say a Digger attack, but this was something which references Brianna and not necessarily the issue of October the 7th.
Me too.
And I really hope that you, Specifically, we'll believe women when they say that they got hurt.
Alright, thanks for joining.
Stick around.
More writing coming.
Thank you.
Now you specifically, that's what got her upset.
That's what got her upset.
Not the fact that she's pro-Israel.
Not the fact that she's pro-Hamas.
No, no.
I mean, she could be.
Brianna.
No, no, no, no.
Or that the guest was pro-Israel.
That's not it.
Breonna is clearly, clearly, as is a lot of people.
Her political and her ideological aspects are very, very well known.
Nothing wrong with that.
It's this moment.
Now, kids, listen to me.
Okay?
Listen.
Listen to Uncle Lenny here.
I worked years ago with a guy named Bob Grant.
Bob Grant was one of the fathers, if not the paterfamilias in some respects, of American conservative talk radio.
He was the firebrand.
This guy was just, he was something.
Great guy, great friend.
This is when I worked at WABC with Rush Limbaugh and Bob Grant, and it was just incredible.
Bob Grant for years drove people nuts.
And the particular regime, if you will, of WABC, was tolerant.
It was the number one, in the glory days, it was the number one talk radio station, maybe in the world, in the nation.
It was the best.
Not what it is now.
It's a different world.
But then it was.
And one of the reasons why management stood up for you.
Management said, well, that's the way it is.
We had Rush Limbaugh and Bob Grant.
Make a long story short.
One day, you had Uptown, ABC Corporate was saying, get rid of this guy.
Radio was this little tiny pimple.
ABC was looking at the wide world of sports and whatever the hell it was.
The Olympics and variety.
Who is this guy?
We don't need him.
Get rid of him.
I've got these people.
I'm going to lose sponsors.
I've got this group and this group.
And at that time, it was not NAACP, but it was whoever it was.
They wanted him.
Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpe, they wanted him fired.
One day, when Ron Brown, I forget the year, 90-something, when the plane went down and Ron Brown was tragically killed, Bob Grant made some statement which was so benign.
Compared to everything he's said in the past.
In fact, it was very weird.
When you defended Bob, normally it started like this.
Well, if you think that's bad, you should have heard him say, which is not the best defense.
In any event, Uptown, right across from Lincoln Center, the ABC headquarters, they said, that's it!
Can him!
Yeah, but can him!
That's it!
Go to freedom of speech?
Go say it.
This is before the internet, really.
Go ahead and do it.
Count them.
They just waited.
And the reason was like, it didn't matter.
It was the tripwire.
It was the straw that broke the camel's back.
It was that one little, just give me one reason.
Look at me funny.
Show up late.
Anything.
That was this.
I will bet, I've got no reason, but Nextar is probably saying, who is this?
They're getting pressure like you can't believe.
They're hanging on.
They've got news divisions nobody's watching.
They've got stuff.
They've got bottom line.
Listen, corporate doesn't have a soul, a heart, a brain.
It's like a virus.
It takes over things.
It just spreads its DNA.
And if you can't live with that, Don't go into business.
Don't be a part of this thing.
Please don't go into entertainment or any big concern.
Same thing with Google.
Google found out, oh, you think we're groovy, huh?
Get out of here.
You want to say something about Israel?
Get out of here.
This is corporate.
Corporate.
This is bottom line.
That's what the Internet's for, to an extent.
Because the Internet, depending upon the platform you are, that's why you might say something about COVID or about Ukraine.
Who knows what when that particular First Amendment free speech, again, that tolerance zeitgeist changes.
So what Breonna realized was, I'll tell her, first of all, I would have never fired.
Of course, that's why I'm not in corporate.
I would have said, I'm not going to fire her.
You know how many people are going to be watching her?
I would have made this the biggest story anybody's ever seen.
I would ask people, should we fire her?
Shouldn't we fire her?
What do you think?
People say, who?
Did you take a part of the poll?
What poll?
The rising poll.
What the hell is a rising?
You don't watch that?
Hell, we've got Eric Clapton who watches Breaking Points and Max Blumenthal.
This is another world!
Next star, you think, would say, if, of course, some corporate guys make it this day, and believe me, I understand the constraints, but I would have made this to be the biggest referendum if you think Brianna...
Call us, text 222, and get all these numbers, you know, the email bank.
I would make her to be the Rosa Parks, the Mahatma Gandhi, the you name it, the George Washington of free speech.
But that's not the way they're saying it.
They're saying, it's the Israel lobby.
It's AIPAC.
It's this, listen to me.
I don't know how this, I don't know where this came from.
But if ever there was evidence that you needed of an effective and powerful and brilliant Israeli lobby, it's the fact that we're even questioning whether there's an Israeli lobby.
That's how good they are.
They're making you question the obvious.
Yes, there's a lobby.
The same way there's a Second Amendment lobby and a climate lobby and an LGBTQ lobby and an everything you want for it and a big pharma lobby.
And come on, stop this once.
Would you stop?
Stop doing this.
It's like asking the question, are there differences between men and women?
Yes.
Now, come on, stop it.
And there's also a Palestinian lobby.
Why is this even a concern?
I don't know.
I think realism, I hope, should lead the day.
So the bottom line is simply this.
Breonna Gray is going to do great in her world.
I think Katie Halper was also purportedly fired because of her Or pro-Palestinian or pro-Palestinian or anti-Israel.
Take whatever you want.
Okay?
And you're going to have people weighing in and okay, fine.
And after this is over, bring on them.
There's another one.
There'll be another one.
You'll be something.
You'll say something somewhere.
And you only take flack when you're over the target.
And the only time anybody wants to can you is when you're Doing a good job when you're powerful, when you scare people, when you pose an existential threat to someone.
So bottom line, she was rolling her eyes not at death, not at a loss of life, but this particular guest's accusations that Brianna showed a disinterest or a lack of concern or care for women who are the victim of sexual violence.
That's what.
And she has the right to roll her eyes.
Now, she could have been more professional.
Something like, you know, point of order, ma 'am, I have never, ever made light of individuals or anybody who claims to be the victim of sexual abuse.
And for all, Brianna, she might herself have had either something personal or somebody in her family.
Most women...
I'm not saying have suffered what this woman's family suffered, but a lot of women are very hip to the idea of not being believed or the problems that exist when a woman claims sexual abuse and the like.
Same thing for children, same thing.
So yeah, she could have handled it a little smoother.
She's got to work on that.
You can't, this has come, you see...
When you're in something for the longest time, and I saw this, when I was, when I worked at WABC, we were on the 17th floor, and Rush's people were down the street, down the hall, and we were in this end.
And some of Rush's people, great people, loved Rush to death.
But some of his subordinates were like, oh, end of this.
I'll never forget, one time I was at a, it's a photocopier, and I look over, and one of Rush's people was crying.
I said, oh, I'm, Are you okay?
And she turned to me with tears.
Literally.
I don't mean this as an expression.
I mean tears.
She said, scorched earth!
And walked off.
And I thought, I'm not involved in that.
I don't know.
Scorched earth.
Something happened.
Liberals.
She really was a believer, okay?
Sometimes when you're in, it's almost a cult.
If you're in a religion, if you're in a political party, if you're...
Even a part of, I'm sure, Beatlemania had it.
You hear what they said about Paul?
You know, you really get into this.
So when you take that certitude and that absolute strident absolutism and you go on the air.
And by the way, the funniest milk toast is Robbie.
Brianna is now ex-partner.
This guy has no opinion about anything.
Robbie, microwaving kittens.
Well...
Okay, Riley, thank you very much.
He's a libertarian, so you know what that means.
Republican who wants to smoke dope.
Always, always, low-hanging fruit, obvious.
Nobody's ever scratched your head with a libertarian and said, I wonder why freedom of speech means so much to them, in any event.
So Breonna's going to do well.
She is going to be here.
If she goes on a speaking tour now, she's going to take this She's going to use it every time and say, I come on behalf of free speech and the pro-Palestinian, and she will be.
Her stock has risen precipitously within that.
This is going to happen.
But the bottom line is, there is free speech, but there's no freedom from consequence.
Remember, pick the hill you want to die on.
But in this case, she didn't do anything wrong.
Nope.
She said stuff before, but when she rolled her eyes, it was because of the direct accusation from this woman against woman-to-woman claiming that Breonna, a woman, should listen to women who claim abuse and violence.
That's all.
Now that I've cleared that up...
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