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May 2, 2024 - Lionel Nation
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Campus Protest Coverage: Who's Winning the Message Battle?
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My friends, if you do not take the opportunity to thoroughly investigate what's happening right now before the entire world, if you're missing this and you just Jump into it one channel at a time.
The Fox News take, or the MSDNC take, or the NPR take, or the Amy Goodman.
If you look at it just with one set of binoculars, one periscope, one microscope, if that's what you do, you're missing something that is without peer.
Let me welcome you.
Let me remind you to, of course, please subscribe.
I have some business dealings this morning and normally Okay, first and foremost, what is happening here?
Remember, Analyze this.
Don't just react to it.
Reacting is easy.
If I take a little rubber mallet and I hit your knee, I can do one of things.
Let's talk about, hey, look at this.
Wow, look at this.
I hit your knee and your patellar reflex kicks.
Let me do it again.
Look at it.
It jumps.
Look at it again.
See?
See?
See what happens?
Isn't that neat?
Isn't that interesting?
Yeah.
Okay, great.
What I want to talk about, why does it do that?
Why does your knee do that?
Why does this work like that?
What is happening here?
What is the coordination?
Why are you reacting like that?
Why doesn't it work here?
Why doesn't your wrist do that?
That's what I want to do.
I don't want to sit here and just react to it and say, look at those people!
Look at those people!
Those bums!
Or, or, well, what do you expect?
It's Palestine.
No, you have just these reactions.
And on both sides, I can't believe when I say both sides.
I hear people saying things like, whatever happened to free speech?
It's like, listen, free speech is important.
Riots are another.
There cannot be disorder.
I'm sorry.
I don't care what it is.
I don't care if it's Tiananmen Square.
I don't care if it's Palestine.
I don't care if it's George Floyd.
I don't care if you're...
Football team or basketball team won.
I don't care about that.
It doesn't matter to me.
Everything's fine until you start breaking things.
Until my order is destroyed by your sense of entitled anger and rage.
That's all.
Does that make sense to you?
I hope so.
That's all.
Now, free speech is one thing.
To write, for example, a statute that prohibits something called, I don't understand this, something called anti-Semitism?
You would have put this in a statute?
Are you kidding me?
Are you out of your mind?
No.
We'll talk about this.
Then, we're going to look at some very interesting clips and cuts and statements and why I think they're unique and how I want you to pay attention to them and how I want you to watch them and how I want you to note with particularity how you're supposed to react to that.
What does this mean?
Remember, it's not just about you.
Reacting.
It's not just about, that's terrible.
No, no, I understand that.
That's easy.
You don't need me for this.
You want to watch Fox News?
Watch Fox News.
There is no depth.
There's nothing.
It's just, look at this.
They're wrong.
This isn't the First Amendment.
It's anti-Semitic.
Great for B-roll.
No analysis.
Nothing.
And without analysis, what's the point of this?
What are we doing?
What is the purpose of this if all we do is just react to it?
Oh, this is terrible.
You want to look at Tiananmen Square and say, well, they're knocking stuff over.
We look at other countries and we say, oh, look at that China.
Look at the way they're doing it.
What if China says, see how you feel?
Share the same thoughts you do in terms of law and order.
Oh yeah, I guess you're right, maybe.
So today's performance, today's subject matter, is called Perspective.
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My only hope today is that if you have to ask yourself, what am I trying to get away from?
Get away from the obvious.
Get away from the obvious.
If you're going to say something that's obvious, I'm not interested.
It does nothing for me.
If it's obvious, I don't care.
Hey, this isn't right.
I know, I know, I know.
This is a mess.
I want you to think like...
Ed Wilson, E.O. Wilson, watching ants.
He didn't look at the ants and say, what the hell was this?
These people are running around.
He goes, no, no, understand.
Pay attention.
Pay attention.
Watch what's happening, but also watch the way it's being covered.
Now first, let's jump in.
The question of this is the Campus Riot coverage.
Who's winning the propaganda war?
First question, is this going all over the country?
No.
Is this in every, there were, during the Vietnam War, by the way, last night I heard in the background somebody had Fox News on trying to make juxtapositions between this and Vietnam.
Fox News, with all due respect, you gotta love them, is just meat and potatoes, just obvious, nothing, no.
No room for analysis.
Breaking news.
Breaking news.
I love when they have a show, it ends, and they say, and now coming up, someone's over there, and breaking news.
I was just watching this.
Is it breaking again since 10, 5 seconds ago?
It's breaking news.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
And they're doing everything in their power.
And they're trying, they say, because remember, all Fox News is doing is this, looking at numbers, looking at routines, looking at clicks, looking at metrics.
There is no message.
Is there a conservative movement here?
They're missing the level of complexity.
And if you want complexity, you're going to have to go to about five or six different sources that are seemingly incompatible and break it down.
Now, let's look at a couple of things here, first and foremost.
And get ready.
And also, the role of social media and the like.
The role of social media.
Let's start with this one, shall we?
This is a very interesting piece.
This is one of the folks who happens to be watching this event.
And let me see.
Here we go.
There we go.
Let's watch this, shall we?
This is last night.
Now check this out.
We're going to stop and I want you to get some perspective on this.
Lucha, lucha, palatina!
Lucha, palatina!
Now first, I've got to tell you this much.
Many of us in New York will see sometimes equipment that NYPD has.
And we think we've seen it all, but we really haven't.
I mean, there's some equipment that is just fantastic.
There's some equipment that is great.
There's some equipment that is just really, really interesting.
But others, they kind of come out of nowhere.
And you'll say, what is that?
There's the emergency response team, the ones that go to the bridge for jumpers, and then there's whatever.
This is a device that looks kind of like a hook-and-ladder truck, but not really.
And it's part of a, dare I say, an elite group of NYPDs.
Just check this thing out.
What is this?
You don't see very shortly.
And they've had enough.
Now, right off the bat, how does that make you feel?
How does this make you feel?
How do you respond to this?
How is it?
How?
How do you respond to this?
I'm serious.
Right now, if you saw this, if you said, hey, this is China, this is Russia, this is whatever it is, would you say, Wow!
Look at that Putin overreacting.
Hey, look at that Xi Jinping.
What would you say?
If you didn't know who this was, and it didn't say NYPD, and you saw with some other country, especially all you anti-Putin people, what would you say?
Fox Newsers, right?
You would say, this is ridiculous.
This man's a despotic.
It's different now.
It's different now.
Very different.
A siege ladder.
Now watch this baby right now.
Police containing themselves.
Watch it.
Here we go.
This chance there we go.
There we go.
Now we're going to visit some people.
We're going to move this baby.
There we go.
Liding up.
Moving that little retractable ladder up there.
That arm.
And we're going in.
We're going in and we're going to explore.
We've had enough of this.
And, by the way, let me remind you, dear friends, this at the behest.
Listen to me carefully.
This at the behest of the Columbia president.
Not just a bunch of stormtroopers, because NYPD said, hey, look, this is a private place.
We're not going to go in unless somebody there calls us, unless somebody calls us into action.
And they said, okay, we're calling you into action.
Go, go, go!
There's always a screamer.
That always helps.
Here we go.
Let's live in, boy.
We've had enough of that.
There we go.
First of all, I wish they would take the person who has that screech.
You see, in every bar, there's always the one who says, ooh!
They're playing my song.
There's always that screech that goes beyond the realm of audible suffering, and they basically tear this in.
Anyway, what do you think of that one?
Now, this is very interesting.
What's your take?
How do you respond?
And by the way, and this is what happens.
If ever you do something like this, and I love the free form, and I love your freedom, try just now.
And I'm going to ask you a favor, and I know this is going to be difficult, and I know this.
But I'm not asking you to say, who can come up with the pithiest, funniest pun?
Who can say something that, say, hey, that's funny?
Funny is great, and I so appreciate it.
But what I really want you to know is, could you maybe look at a little bit something other than what's funny?
What's your take?
When you see this, what is your reaction?
Especially if you are somebody who says, what does this have to do with the Palestinian issue?
What does this have to do with the plight of Gaza?
What does this have to say with or do with the 35,000 people, the women and children and the starvation and what B'Tselem is saying?
Does this have anything to do with that?
Have you noticed that there has been absolutely no reaction, no marches, no counter-marches from Israeli or Anti-Palestinian.
Pro-Israeli or anti-Palestinian.
Isn't that interesting?
Somebody was wise enough to say, in terms of America, let these people do this.
Because Americans will look at this and say, I hate those people.
I hate this Gaza business because I hate these people.
Does that make sense to you?
I hate these people.
And this is where, remember, who's winning the propaganda war?
Now, let's look at this other one.
Let's assume that you, my friends, were watching something and you saw this.
Let's see.
What if you saw this baby right here?
I want you!
I want you!
Now, let me stop right there.
Forget the top.
It says NYPD entering.
Let's assume you saw this as China, and this was from Beijing.
What would you think?
Or it was one of Putin's crack police units, and you were of the typical media anti-Putin.
Would you say, there he goes again, this despotic leader?
You know what I'm saying is true.
You love law and order as long as it's your law and order.
You can't imagine any other country saying, you know what, enough of this shit.
We're tired of that.
Let's move in.
You see Tiananmen Square and you see the guy holding the takeout bags or whatever.
He's walking.
He's holding something, right?
He's like, he's...
You don't know what he was doing.
If it was real, what the issue...
You know nothing about that.
Nothing.
Nothing.
But you do know...
That you hate China.
And you hate Xi Jinping.
And that has been told, you've been told specifically, this is the mark of this despotism.
But when you see it in your country, you say, well, this is different.
Remember, our version, our truth is America.
We're different.
*Cheering*
I've got to tell you something, as I normally do, I don't know what this is accomplishing.
I do not know.
And I've always said, I don't know what certain forms of, some, some, oh my god, some protests are wonderful.
Others, I don't get.
But then again, that's me.
Oh, my God!
How about that?
Now, here's one for you that's really, really interesting.
And this is the one I've been wanting to show you up till now.
This is the...
And I recognize something.
I'm going to...
Say that, what I'm about to say, I recognize wholeheartedly that I am wasting my time, for the most part, trying to explain, not to you, mind you, but to the rest of the world, this notion of symbolism, symbology, the semiotics of messaging.
I'm wasting my time with this one.
But this is one that says it all.
Remember Mount Suribachi?
Remember this one?
The Marines putting up the flag?
It was kind of like recreated.
It happened one day and then they did it again.
Whatever.
The flag.
The flag.
Vexillology.
Vexillology.
The study of flags.
The flag.
Flags are important.
We go crazy when people in our country Burn the flag.
We had a Supreme Court case on it.
When I see people, I don't know about you, they leave the American flag up at night and it's tattered and there's no light on it and they're breaking all of the rules of protocol.
It really, it does something to me.
It really, it bothers me immensely.
Because if it's up at night, there's got to be a flag.
This is under the flag code.
It's not mandatory.
You're not going to go to jail.
It's not a criminal offense.
But there's a certain protocol that one must adhere to.
And one of them is, if you're going to have it up at night, please make sure you have a light on it.
A light.
You must have a light on it.
Does this make sense to you?
Good.
If it's tattered, You must take it and have it disposed of, either by burning it properly with a Boy Scout.
There was a place years ago in Hoboken where you could drop a flag off.
It was in front of a post office.
So I'm really into this.
So flags mean a lot.
When they step on the American flag, when they burn the American flag, it...
Even though it's a flag, and even though, yes, that's the right that certainly our citizens have.
But when foreign folks do it, it really does something to me, okay?
I want you to watch this carefully.
And I know, and I know, and I know you don't, well, put it this way.
I know you're going to say, who cares?
I know you, and I love you.
I'm like your dad.
I'm your grandpa.
I'm your uncle.
I know you.
I know how you are.
And I love you.
But you're going to say, so what?
I know you.
And it doesn't change anything.
It doesn't change the way I feel about you.
It doesn't change my affection for you.
But I know what you're going to say.
You're going to say, who cares?
Now watch this carefully.
Now let me say, what is going on here?
Well, a couple of things here.
First, There is a Palestinian, I don't think there's any sound in this one, there is a Palestinian flag that was on a pole somewhere at the Comey University.
NYPD is doing their own Mount Siribachi moment, and they are going to be, look at this, they are taking this down.
Now, let me explain something to you, and again, I know you don't care about this, and I know this, and I recognize the fact.
Well, one of the things I would always do is, when at all possible, pretend, pretend that you're not insulting a cause.
Now, you may not think that anything involving Palestinian authority or the flag means anything.
You may think they're tantamount to Al-Qaeda.
For an American, a lot of people do.
They think that they're terrorists or they think there's a Hamas flag.
Well, I don't know.
But ask yourself this question.
I know none of these police officers meant to do it.
But look at the way the Palestinian flag is being handled.
Now watch this carefully.
Rip it down.
Now watch too hot.
Watch, watch.
He gives it to the police officer.
Watch what he does.
He takes it and just throws it.
Now I know, I know.
I know what I'm saying.
I know.
I know you don't care.
And I recognize that.
Throw it.
Toss it.
I would not do that.
I don't want anybody disciplined.
Well, this is nice.
These are the police putting it back up.
Putting up the American flag.
Old glory.
You know what?
I would be less than honest if I told you that I didn't necessarily agree with this.
I like our flag.
In my wizened dotage, I've loved the flag more now than ever.
And I like the fact that they're putting this up, and this is symbolic and the like.
That may not be the best version of it, and I'm sorry, I don't have sound for this.
For reasons I do not know, but what are you going to do?
Now, I recognize this, and I know this.
And I know, you're going to say, so what?
So who cares?
I know.
I would not have done that.
Is that critical?
No.
No.
Is that the end of the world?
No.
Is there any lack of thinking?
Yes.
Because there's no propaganda police.
There's no...
Nobody is in charge of the propaganda war.
Nobody is in charge of this.
Nobody...
You don't want to...
If at all, you want to take control, but you don't want to enrage.
Is this the end of the world?
Of course not.
Would I have done this?
No.
If I were the chief of police, or the commissioner rather, I would say, we're going to have classes on this.
Because you're going to have an organization.
It might be the LGBTQIMOUSE flag, which you don't care about.
It might be a flag about maybe something Palestinian.
It may be a flag, you don't even know what it is.
Might be the flag for TJ Maxx.
You have no idea.
And I know that in your haste and in your anger, you don't want to take it out and throw it to the ground.
I recognize that fact.
Okay?
But this is the thing that's important.
The message.
Now this is the one that I...
Oh, look at Raul Rodriguez.
You see this?
Raul says, decorum all the time.
Absolutely.
Thank you.
This is the moment you're going to love.
This is the one that I will join for you, okay?
And saying, this one has no clue as to what's happening.
Let me give you an idea who this is.
Now, supposedly, not supposedly, as some people say, but supposedly, This is a woman that is...
I'm not going to give her name, but they seem to think she is a PhD candidate at Columbia, a video editor and full-service digital, listen to this, communications expert for progressive and leftist causes.
PhD candidate.
They believe...
I don't...
There's LinkedIn.
LinkedIn, for so many reasons, I just never got into LinkedIn.
LinkedIn to me is like WhatsApp or whatever.
Snapchat or whatever.
Okay?
Okay.
Now, Joanna, I think her name...
I'm not...
That's what I think her name is.
Doesn't matter.
Could be the wrong person.
But the person that they say that she is, they believe, is this video editor and full service digital communications expert for progressive and leftist causes.
Okay?
Now, they decided to get this young lady to bring her up.
And I hope she's a lady.
I think she is.
I'm sorry.
I'm old-fashioned.
I'm old-fashioned.
And here she is enjoying this.
She's wearing her keffiyeh.
So she said, here I am.
This is my moment.
And I'm going to be talking about something important.
Now, this is really interesting.
The reason why...
This is the revolutionary who occupies the Hamilton Hall at Columbia and demands that the university provide food.
Okay?
Now, I know you might say, well, yeah, but...
This is the person, this is the person that they get.
This is the reporter, in this one, grills a student after she demands the university help feed protesters occupying Hamilton Hall.
It seems like you're saying, we want to be revolutionaries, we want to take over this building, now would you please bring us some food?
This is what happens when you...
Have people who are not aware of the...
I don't understand.
This is what happens.
Okay.
Without further ado, this is going to make your day.
Now also, I want you to watch her mean, her affect, her impression, her expression, and her attitude.
Explain the attitudinal...
Remember.
I know there's a lot of prefatory stuff here, but you must hear me.
I've got to win people over.
I would have started off with, we come in peace.
We, of course, I'm representative.
We urge peace and calm.
Please do nothing to harm our brothers and sisters of law enforcement.
They are doing their job.
And it would not be wonderful.
Start off right, even if you don't mean it.
Even if you don't mean a word of it, because remember, it's the propaganda war.
That's the battlefield.
It's not about...
But this is her moment.
This is her moment.
She's never thought about this.
And just watch this.
Why is the university obligated to provide food to people who have taken over a building?
Why is the university obligated to provide food?
And by the way, a lot of these people, not this young lady, but some people could miss a meal, and it's not exactly going to waylay them.
Forget the fasting part, you know, that Gandhi thing.
We need our sushi, by God.
So the question is, why must they provide food?
Well, first of all, we're saying that they're obligated to provide food to students who pay for a meal plan here.
Oh, my God.
This is the spokesperson.
We've paid for a meal plan.
I have here my card that is punched pursuant to every time I walk through the cafeteria and at this particular time notwithstanding the fact that we have commandeered the building have broken windows And basically are causing tumult to levels unheard of since 1968.
We do believe that even though we are violating every conceivable form of decorum and rules and regulations of civility, we believe that our meal plan obligations must nonetheless be honored.
You mentioned that there was a request that food and water be brought in.
To allow it to be brought in.
I mean, well, I guess it's ultimately a question of what kind of community and obligation Columbia feels it has to its students.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Your commandeer is like my kidnapper.
Is this the way you treat the kidnappers?
Is this the way?
Is this the...
What is this?
And next they're going to complain about...
Excuse me.
There's an expiration on this chicken salad.
I don't...
And by the way, I said whole wheat.
This is...
I don't know if this is Wonder Bread.
Di co...
Que cojone, to use the West Tampa term.
Do you want students to die of dehydration and starvation?
Do you want...
No, no, no.
You heard me.
I didn't change this.
Do you want children, students to die of dehydration and starvation?
Do you want students to die of dehydration and starvation?
Do you?
I can see it next year at the medical conferences.
We have something for you.
Never before recognized in the annals of medical recordation.
Students who died from dehydration and starvation over a day.
That's right, it was a day.
Two days maximum.
The hell they went through dehydration.
And of course, before medical literature suggested that to die of starvation, it takes, well, weeks, weeks.
There is, of course, fasting, intermittent fasting, sometimes for seven days.
We're not doing that.
And water?
Well, I don't think dehydration has set in yet.
But remember, they've commandeered this.
As we say again in West Tampa, que cojones!
...get severely ill, even if they disagree with you.
If the answer is no, then you should allow basic...
I mean, it's crazy to say because we're on an Ivy League campus, but this is like basic humanitarian aid we're asking for.
Like, could people please have a glass of water?
We're on an Ivy League campus, and like...
I'm going to say like, even though I'm a PhD candidate.
I'm going to pepper my entire statement with like.
People of my generation do that.
It's a form of indication that I am part of the group, the milieu, the coterie of revolutionaries.
And please, did you notice my accoutrement, as it were?
Very deliberately in that situation and in that position.
Yes, that's a good question.
Well, you put yourself in this.
It's almost like dog day afternoon.
We need water.
I'm dying over here, Sal.
I'm dying.
Yeah.
It seems like you're sort of saying, we want to be revolutionaries.
We want to take up this building.
Now would you please bring us food?
I don't know if you've heard this.
We want to be revolutionaries.
I normally would bring my Che shirt, which I have, my Red Book, but I'd like some water, please.
Nobody's asking them to bring anything.
We're asking them to not violently stop us from bringing in basic humanitarian aid.
Oh, so now she's saying we can't bring in the aid versus we're on a meal plan.
Did you hear this?
Did you hear this?
Did you see how it went from...
You're not letting us bring in versus I have a card here.
I'm on a meal plan.
And you're violating the meal plan.
And now because she realizes, I've got to change my story here because even I don't understand.
We are looking for a commitment from them that they will not stop it.
Well, I don't know to what extent it has been attempted, but we're looking for a commitment.
Now listen.
Let's stop.
Let's stop.
Dear, dear, dear, dear friends.
Okay?
Now, what I am saying is, and one of our folks must understand something.
Number one, what is happening in Gaza?
What is happening to 35,000 plus.
What is happening, according not to me, but to B'Tselem and others, has nothing to do with this.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
That has nothing to do with this.
So I want you to understand, and I want you to grasp this idea, and you've heard me say this before, dear friends.
You've heard me say it to the point where you're thinking, oh no.
Is he going to do this again?
Is he really...
Please, is he really...
He's not going to bring up the plates.
I'm not going to bring the plates again, I promise.
I'm not going to have the plates spinning.
But I've got to ask you a very simple question.
Do you recognize the fact, and this is important, do you recognize the fact that there are multiple issues here?
Multiple.
Multiple.
The answer is...
Most people do not.
They can't say that.
If I went to Sean Hannity and said, Sean, may I sit down for you?
And by the way, we're going to blow out the commercials.
You're not going to go, you're not going to read your prompter.
Well, you got to read a prompter.
Prompters are fine.
But number one, are you against drafting something that says racism is against the law?
I think Sean would say, Absolutely.
Why is that, Sean?
Well, the reason why is because of a lot of reasons.
Number one, I'm against it because I don't even know what racism means.
One man's racism might be another person's.
I don't know what the word is.
Okay?
I don't know.
I'm not sure.
Right?
These are words that are too frightening.
By virtue of their imprecision, I'm with you.
How about sexism?
Would you like a statute, Sean, that said sexism should not be subject to statutory prohibition?
Absolutely.
Good.
How about antisemitism?
Now that's different.
Sean, why is that different?
What is antisemitism?
It is a thought.
It is a thought.
You keep saying these people are anti-Semites.
Okay.
It's a thought.
I disagree with it.
I disagree with racism, too.
But why don't you show the same care and precision for all words that are susceptible to imprecision?
That's number one.
Number two, I'd love to ask, Sean, I don't know why I'm picking her.
He's not to blame.
He's the luckiest man in the world.
Anybody who follows Rush Limbaugh and Bill O 'Reilly, you can put on the Missouri dial tone and God bless him.
He's a survivor, my friends.
Sean, do you think that when you hear the word genocide, I've got a friend of mine, he says, there is no genocide.
Let me ask a very simple question here.
Very simple, please.
Just vote.
Do you believe genocide?
This is a word.
Do you believe genocide is occurring in Gaza?
Yes or no?
I'm going to use genocide as defined by the statutes, by genocide conventions, by the ICJ.
Do you believe yes or no?
Just get an idea so people can read this because a lot of times when you do these live streams, nobody pays attention to it.
I'm going to ask you a question.
Do you believe genocide?
And if you want, you can qualify.
You can say, well, maybe not my version of what it is, but according to the...
Whatever.
Ronald Shapiro.
I have a dear friend of mine who pronounces it Shapiro.
That's if you're...
You say, yes, you believe that genocide is being...
Okay.
What do you think?
Seriously.
What do you think?
Do you think this is genocide?
Number one, this is important.
This is critical.
Because this is what they're saying.
There's nothing to do with whether the food service is there, whether they broke a window.
Do you believe this?
Yes or no?
Answer my question.
I'm not going to move on until we get an idea.
Wild Bill says, I don't know.
You know what?
Very good.
I appreciate that.
Beastie says, nope, there's no genocide.
35,000 people?
Was it 10% of the population?
Absolutely not.
Nope.
Genocide is occurring all over the world, Cindy writes.
Very good.
Nope.
What do you think genocide means?
Not the way I used to do it.
I don't know what that means.
No.
What does genocide mean to you?
What does that mean?
What does that mean?
Somebody says, oh, I like that.
He goes, no, it's war.
That's a very interesting point.
It's very interesting.
Ben says, no, it's war.
And that's an excellent, excellent point.
Nick says, that's Hamas's numbers.
Well, no, that's the ICJ and others and International Court of Justice and B'Tselem and others.
Nobody's really questioning whether 35,000.
It's definitely a war.
Is it a war?
Let me ask you something.
Is it a war?
Is it a war?
We've done this.
Tokyo raids.
More people, more lives were lost in the raids on Tokyo than the both atom bombs.
Did you know that?
We never call it a genocide.
War is basically a genocide, but we allow it.
Somebody says, it's stupid.
I think you're right.
That's probably one of the wildest things you can say.
It's stupid.
The Middle East, different situations.
I like that.
You see, that's interesting.
What we are seeing here are people who qualify this.
Well, you see, this is different.
And this is what fascinates me the most.
Okay, genocide definition.
Not colloquial genocide.
The United Nations Genocide Convention.
You say, well, I don't recognize it.
Okay, fair enough.
But let me read you what they say it is.
Because it's not kind of what we think.
The United States Genocide Convention defines genocide as any act committed with the intent, Remember this,
as any act committed with the intent to destroy a national, racial, ethnic, or religious group in whole or in part.
Right off the part of saying, well, my God, that's...
Did we want to, during Vietnam, destroy the Viet Cong, the Vietnamese, the communists, whoever they were, in whole or in part?
When we wanted to basically wipe out Japan and the Japanese...
Wait, wait, wait.
They started it.
There's no leeway here.
By the way, this includes killing members of the group.
Killing members?
Well, how many members?
Causing serious mental or physical harm to members of the group.
Deliberately inflicting conditions of life on the group that are intended to bring about its physical destruction.
Imposing measures to prevent births within the group.
Forcibly transferring children of the group.
Direct incitement which is when someone directly and publicly encourages others to commit genocide.
What do you think, ladies and gentlemen?
Under that definition, I don't know what's not genocide.
I don't know what's not genocide.
The whole notion, the fact that I'm sitting here with you parsing the destruction of human beings is to me Disgusting.
Take a moment right now.
Stop for one second.
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Ladies and gentlemen, let me remind you of this as well.
What is this going to do to the election?
Right now, I have said to you, very simply, President Trump should say, and pardon the crudeness, I don't mean to be, that is not my desire, okay?
But he should stand up and say, ladies and gentlemen, do you want four more years of this shit?
Pardon my French, because that's exactly the way humans and Americans speak.
Sorry.
It conveys the idea perfectly.
Do you want four more years of this?
Do you want to see this?
I heard one of the most incredible most interesting versions.
Because remember, I listen to everybody.
Everybody.
Anti, left, right, whatever.
And a fellow by the name of Norman Finkelstein, who was pronounced dead, basically, ideologically.
He was the D.B. Cooper.
He was missing MIA for years after he got into a pissing match with Alan Dershowitz about, you know, plagiarism.
I mean, Dershowitz basically ran him out of town.
But Norman Finkelstein said something.
He said, Nancy Pelosi, because remember, these folks, I'm finding myself listening to people that...
I heard Michael Moore did it.
Listen to what I'm telling you.
Michael Moore!
Michael Moore!
Make more sense to me.
More sense.
He made more sense to me.
Than anything you can imagine.
Michael Moore.
Michael Moore.
Of all the people, Michael Moore, you know, Roger and me and all that.
Michael Moore!
I couldn't believe what I'm saying.
Amy Goodman.
Makes incredible sense.
I'm listening to people I've never listened to.
And there are people from the left and the right.
Judge Napolitano has been brilliant.
Max Blumenthal, Aaron Mate, Gabor Mate, his father.
Mearsheimer, Mearsheimer.
Cristobal and Sager, better than ever, especially when they kind of go after each other.
Incredible, incredible actual discussions.
But Norman Finkelstein said, this is the product of Nancy Pelosi and the left who wanted to inspire this social justice warrior nonsense.
This identitarian lunacy.
It's come back to haunt them.
It's come back to haunt them.
These kids and people who feel...
That for reasons that we do not know, they are absolutely, positively, the most, they are susceptible to this.
Okay, go ahead, my darlings.
Feel what you want.
Okay.
Feel safe.
Okay, we want to talk about Palestinians.
What?
Yeah, Palestinians.
No, no, no, wait, wait, wait.
We didn't mean that.
We meant talk about Trump.
And by the way, guess who's coming out blasting Bibi Netanyahu?
Trump!
Not Biden, because Biden is incoherent in more ways than one.
Do I have to spell it out to you?
This is the election.
And Trump has to speak.
He has to go in front of the cameras.
Quit talking about yourself.
Quit talking about the women in your entourage and how hot they are and all this bullshit that nobody cares about.
And I want you to come on and you want to say, where is the leadership?
Where is your president now?
Edie Crowley says, would collateral damage be a sort of involuntary genocide?
Under the definition, I think the case could be made for virtually all forms being genocide.
The word genocide, it's like when we use the word holocaust.
We used to use it before, nuclear holocaust.
Because if I say it, it involves and allows you to envisage a particular iteration.
So let me just say something again, dear, dear, dear friends.
I can't say this enough.
This is for Donald Trump to make his move.
Who is it?
Never let a moment of tumult or whatever, never let it go by and not waste it.
President Trump, this is your time.
This is your time.
And by the way, By the way, you really want to play dirty?
You really want to play dirty?
You really want to play dirty?
If you're worried about Bobby Kennedy, you say, Bobby, what are you saying about this?
What are you saying about this?
You were all over the place.
When you thought this was cool, pre-October the 7th, you got Shmuley Boteach and you went all over the place.
I am Jewish.
I am Israeli.
Okay, fine.
What are you talking about now?
You and your vice president.
Well, we need coherent...
What do we do?
Trump is being more...
Trump!
Every now and then when you think the man is demented, he shows a genius for this.
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for this.
We're going to be with you later.
Make sure you stay tuned.
Make sure you subscribe to Lionel Nation.
I'm going to do this anytime I want.
I'm just going to bring this thing up and bring you the latest little clips and we're going to analyze them to have you look at them differently.
Remember, don't just react.
Analyze.
Analyze.
All right, dear friends, have a great and glorious day.
God bless America.
Remember.
We're Americans.
With all due respect to our foreign friends, I'm an American.
I worry about America first.
I love the rest of the world.
I don't worry about them.
I worry about you and me, especially with Biden sending people all over the country, dropping them off into places, just dumping them off without anybody having anything, any say about it.
They're rats off a sinking ship, ladies and gentlemen.
All right, dear friends.
See you later on.
Until then, remember, monkey's dead.
Show's over.
Sue ya.
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