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Jan. 29, 2024 - Lionel Nation
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Does Anything Actually Fascinate You?
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The question that I have asked today is very simple.
Does anything fascinate you?
And that may seem like a bone, whatever.
No, no, no, no.
Listen to what I'm saying.
Does anything fascinate you?
Does anything pull you and propel you into wanting to know more about how something works?
Does complexity turn you on?
Do you say like, wow, I had no earthly idea.
I had no earthly idea.
Look at this.
Someone writes, Define fascinate.
To attract and delight by arousing interest or curiosity, to render motionless, as with a fixed stare or by arousing terror or awe.
Yes!
Precisely!
This is great.
Joy says, what fascinates me is how some people can see and talk about what's happening and other people are turned out or decide to tune out, rather.
Of all of it.
What makes people decide which information is real?
This goes back to how do you know what you know?
How do you know what you know?
How do you know something to be true?
YouTube is still the most fascinating subject to show you how people kind of sort of get things.
There is a man.
There is a website, or excuse me, a YouTube channel, that is apparently either pro-Israel or anti-foe Palestine.
And this fellow talks about things, for example, he will say that for those people who Who support the Houthis, here is, and he himself either is a Muslim or speaks Arabic or what have you, but he says, here is a phrase from the Houthis basically calling for the destruction of America.
And he basically, in a short, this is a short, says in essence, aha, you foolish.
Pro-Palestinian people who like the Houthis.
Listen to what they say about you.
Now what fascinates me is, does anybody care what Houthis think?
How would you think about America if you weren't here?
How would you feel about Israel if you lived in Gaza?
What would you think about Gaza if you lived in Starot or Tel Aviv?
What do people think?
I went into a fellow the other night who was talking, he was regaling me with stories of Vietnam.
He's a good guy, good egg.
He was with the 82nd Airborne in Vietnam.
And he was talking about how...
They were treated terribly, which is inexcusable.
And how he was, how they would have won the war if they had been allowed to.
And what fascinated me is, you are considered the enemy of other people.
You went to another country.
For reasons you never...
This guy was born in New York.
He was never on a plane in his life until he jumped out of one.
He had no idea where Vietnam was.
No idea.
Went there and was trained to kill people for reasons he could not possibly explain.
Couldn't explain it.
Couldn't tell you.
Couldn't tell you why.
Couldn't tell you what the purpose was.
He went there trained to kill these people.
What do you think those people would have thought about him?
Here I am praising him, good man, member of our military, who went to a different country.
They were minding their own business.
And here comes my friend from Brooklyn.
And he wants to kill them.
And if he kills a bunch of them, he gets a medal or a promotion or comes back and he's a war hero.
And he doesn't understand what these people have ever done to him.
But they're a part of some kind of a, this synchrony of communism or something.
And it fascinates me.
Here I am.
And here we are with the International Court of Justice and we're parsing genocide from war crimes, retribution proportionality.
We have an Academy Award for a movie about a guy named Oppenheimer who by virtue of his genius killed 250,000 innocent people with two bombs.
That everybody from Dwight Eisenhower to Curtis LeMay to MacArthur to Stimson to others said, we don't need to drop the bomb.
But it was done by Harry Truman to show the Russians what we had.
You want to talk about genocide?
Why aren't we?
What's going on with that?
How does that work?
Fascinating!
War crimes are for the losers!
This is, this is the, what are we talking about?
What are we talking about?
We're talking about charging Israel, right or wrong, when, who charges us for Iraq?
Well, that was different.
What do you mean that was different?
Well, there wasn't an intent to eradicate an entire people in whole or part.
Wait a minute, what do you, what was that that we did?
These parties, okay, you can kill, but what was your intention?
Is it to wipe them all out or just a whole bunch of them?
Well, I don't know.
When Snowden showed those turret gunners, those horrible, horrible sights, what was that about?
People just standing there, just standing there.
Don't you love it?
It fascinates me.
And we speak of such moral certitude.
There was another YouTube channel where they went to these poor, stupid people standing on the corner wearing kafiyas or whatever the Palestinian scarf is.
And they're saying, no to genocide.
Israel is bad.
Israel is bad.
And of course, excuse me, what is genocide?
And of course, they don't know.
They don't know.
They're standing there because it's a part of a movement.
It doesn't make them wrong.
But if your whole purpose is that you are against genocide, then goddammit, understand what genocide is.
But again, it's the same.
I don't have to do that because I don't have to know that.
I can react to it.
How many people were reacting to President Trump and his case?
Bobby E.G. and Carroll and can't explain.
Don't understand the first thing about any of it.
Nothing.
Absolutely nothing.
It fascinates me.
What are you talking about?
Nothing.
Nobody said, well, I'm going to learn about this before I start talking about this.
There's no teaching.
There is so much information on YouTube alone to answer all of your questions about what is and isn't improper in the world of war.
It goes without saying.
And nobody lifts a finger.
Nobody.
It's a level of just absolute nations.
Ignorance.
And you think somebody would say, but let's keep talking about this.
Now that we know what it is, now that we understand whether this Rome Statute, the Geneva Conventions, which protocol, which whatever, now that we've studied this, let's look at the bigger picture.
How do we prosecute those people who prosecute war?
How do we say, What is and isn't okay regarding war?
Doesn't that blow your mind?
Doesn't that make you think like, dear God, this silliness.
What do you call a war crime?
It's called the loser.
It's the loser.
That's who the war crime is.
That's who it is.
That's the story.
It's not about...
I...
Thank you.
Don't you think somebody...
Now, there are a lot of folks.
Oh, don't get me wrong.
There's a lot of people you can hear and you can watch on YouTube and others debate.
And you can hear them.
You can actually hear them.
You can hear them talk about what is and isn't.
Let's say, for example, genocide, and you can argue both sides, and there's no interest in being able to argue both sides.
Maybe it's the lawyer in me.
Maybe I would say I can argue for the Israel side or the Palestinian side, whatever you want.
Give me the statute.
Let me see what the rules are.
To understand the facts, let's apply this.
then you realize we're talking about it.
One of the most fascinating things to me, of them all, fascinating, that nobody will ever listen to, is how we as a society, as a collective society, can be made to find Taylor Swift, not you, not you, not you.
Dear God, not you.
Oh, please, I'm not talking about you because people will quickly say, well, I don't find her fascinating.
That's not the point.
Where did this come from?
Where?
Where is this insanity?
Where was the insanity for the Beatles from?
Where?
The notion of groups and swarms and hordes and murmurations.
Is it that easy just to say who's famous?
It's one thing to say, Taylor Swift, okay, she's performing, okay, she's doing her thing, but who cares that she's going and she's sitting with the parents of this guy who's playing and whatever, and yet it will captivate this horrible, rancid, free-falling, Media that collectively have no future whatsoever.
Fascinating.
Why?
If all of a sudden somebody said, hey, Paris Hilton, I think she's married, I'm just picking a name.
Paris Hilton just You know, dated somebody.
That wouldn't work.
Why?
I don't know.
She's not what?
Popular enough?
I will forever tell you, there was the genius of something called the Kardashians.
It was absolute genius.
Absolute.
You could say, well, Taylor Swift is, at least she's a musician in this other, or a singer or a dancer or whatever it is, in this other aspect, I saw something that was in Industry in and of itself called lying.
And the dissemination of lying, it's just mind-boggling.
Here's what fascinates me.
What does it take for something to get done in this country?
Let's assume that for reasons I'll make it very easy.
Swarms and motorboats and battalions and speedboats and paratroopers of Russian special forces just come in and are swarming the beaches of Fort Lauderdale, the Jersey Shore, Delaware, the East Coast.
What?
Ever.
And they're just coming and coming, and they're taking over, and they're saying, we declare this, and they drop a Russian flag, and they kick people out of their businesses.
Okay.
How long do you think that would go on?
How long?
I'm dead serious.
What would be the reaction?
What?
I can't tell you anymore.
Let me say this again.
And you can change it from Russian to Swedish to Spanish to Ukrainian to Chinese to anything you want.
Whatever melts your butter.
I can't answer the question.
Why do I say that?
Because we have been overrun by people in this country.
People from elsewhere.
And nothing can be done.
Nothing.
Absolutely nothing can and has been done regarding that.
Doesn't that blow your mind?
It does mine.
Absolutely blows my mind.
I can't believe what I'm saying.
I can't believe what I'm saying.
And nothing's done about it.
There's video.
I'm fascinated.
You can go on YouTube.
There's a guy in Georgia and there's Africans.
People from Africa, Africa.
Not African Americans.
Africans walking around and saying, I don't know what the hell I'm doing here.
Swarming.
And nobody does anything.
Jim Jordan doesn't do anything.
Josh Hawley doesn't do anything.
Ted Cruz doesn't do anything.
Marcia Blackburn doesn't do anything.
John, John, John Kennedy doesn't do anything.
Nobody.
Not Biden.
Not anybody.
Nothing.
Why?
I don't know.
Will somebody do something?
I don't know.
It's like there's a house next door.
It's on fire.
Did you call the fire department?
No.
Why don't you call?
I don't know.
It's fascinating.
Why?
Well, I don't know.
What do you mean you don't know?
I don't know, I guess.
We have a president of the United States.
Who, as we speak, by all stretches of, not even the imagination, but at all indications, suffers from very serious cognitive and neurological impairment.
I don't know whether it's demented or dementia or Alzheimer's or Parkinson's or Lewy body syndrome.
I have no idea.
I'm not an expert.
But there's something wrong with him.
There's something wrong with him.
As a friend of mine says, I wouldn't let him drive me home from the airport.
And yet, nope, they're talking about his age!
His age!
Alan Dershowitz is 85 years old.
He's sharp as a tack.
Alan Dershowitz, 85?
Is that his age?
Nobody says, Alan, please, you're 85. Noam Chomsky is what, 120?
So old he forged dust?
Nobody says...
I mean, he's hard to understand.
But nobody does.
Do you not find that fascinating?
Do you not find that fascinating?
Why is no one saying anything?
I don't know.
Don't joke about it.
It's like me sitting there.
Don't you think somebody should call the fire department?
I think so.
What's that?
Fire's been going on for, what, about 10, 20 minutes?
Yeah, you know, if we'd have called now, we can probably save it.
Do you have a phone?
Yeah, I got a phone.
Do you have a phone?
I got a phone.
I got a phone, too.
You know, if we called, we could probably, you know, that's a very nice house.
And not only that, if it gets...
More, if the conflagration grows, you might get other houses involved as well.
So I think it would behoove all of us to call anybody and nobody call.
That's where we are right now.
Fascinating.
I don't understand it.
I don't get it.
I don't know.
I don't understand.
Thank you.
I don't, I mean, so I guess what this should be called also is, aside from what fascinates you, is what does this, what, why aren't things done, or something along those lines.
I am riveted by it.
And social media allows us the information, the chance to just complain about it.
Snark.
Snap some pithy pun.
For the piranomasiac in us?
You know, we can be very punny, put us in the punitentiary, very punny.
Ooh, that's great!
Houthi!
Houthi and the blowfish!
Do you know who they are?
No.
Do you know who their beef is?
No.
Do you know how critical they are to...
No.
Nope.
You care to look?
Not even...
Today on YouTube, I looked up, what is genocide?
Oh my god, I was overwhelmed.
Which one would you want?
Would you like the World Court?
Would you like the UN?
Would you like lawyers?
Would you like...
Which definition of genocide?
Yet these Jadrools were walking around with their Palestinian...
I'm not pronouncing it correctly, but...
But enjoying the whole thing about, look at me, I'm out and I'm protesting.
Isn't this great?
Hey Ma, look, I'm protesting for Palestine.
I don't know.
Where is Palestine?
You know, it's the thing.
Anyway, here I am.
Let's get a picture.
Hey, cool.
Do the duck lip.
Look at us, we're protesting.
Do we get that in yet?
Gotta do the peace sign.
Gotta do the thumbs up.
That's it.
Do you know what you're talking about?
I have no idea.
I have no idea.
There was somebody on YouTube.
He asked a question.
He said, is there genocide?
Yes.
Why in the past, whatever, I don't know how many years, the population of Gaza or Palestine has gone up?
The point is, there are some interesting issues about it.
There have been more of a concentration of people.
But the point is, there's somebody mocking these people.
And the premise of what he was saying was to be challenged.
The point is, nobody knows.
Because they don't know.
Years ago, there was a story.
It might be a tad apocryphal.
It was Penn and Teller.
And apparently they went to this university, or something, and they wanted to, they didn't do it, but they enlisted a number of these college types to pass around some referendum or petition or something to ban dihydrogen monoxide.
H2O, it was called something odorless, colorless, and is responsible for the death of people and millions of, okay, fine.
And all of this went on, and it was fascinating, absolutely fascinating.
And people signed up, signed up without any questions whatsoever.
And they just, but they didn't care because they were there just to let people know.
My friends, if you find this riveting, if you're fascinated by this, this coming Saturday, Saturday, I'm going to be, now's your chance to act accordingly.
I'm going to be at the cutting room.
You, I mean, playing the guitar, talking to you.
And by the way, you'll meet, you'll meet like-minded people in the room.
We can drink and celebrate and eat and talk.
And you have such an incredible...
Melange, a pastiche, a mosaic of individuals, of like-minded folks and the like.
And like I said before I do this, here is that link for you right now.
That's that link.
Go and do this.
But it's not just about me.
It's meeting other people who say they dig it.
They get it.
And there's more of us than you can imagine.
What are we?
What are we called?
What?
I don't know.
What do you call us?
Conservatives?
I don't think so.
Republicans?
Absolutely not.
What are we?
Free thinkers?
Patriots?
Veritists?
People who believe in verity and verity and truth and constitutionalism?
I don't know.
I don't know what you call this.
I have no idea.
But I sure as hell am not a Democrat.
And I'm Republican too.
But I'm not one of these folks.
Because we have these demented individuals who are trying to kill us little by little.
My friends, I'm starting off a little early this eve.
I'm going to be attending something, which I'm going to tell you about tomorrow.
I'm going to tell you about tomorrow.
It's a group of people, believe it or not, believe it or not.
It's a group of people who meet sometimes privately, quietly, clandestinely.
People who think kind of like we do.
And there are so many of them.
And there are so many of us and so many who for some reason are not represented by anybody for some particular reason.
I'm going to fill you in on that.
Because it's almost like we are, there are more of us, but you see, there are people who agree with us, but they won't take it the next step and vote or do anything.
I mean, they may like it, they may share it, they may say, well, you know what, I kind of agree with you.
Individually, I agree with what you're saying.
I'm with you in spirit, but I don't have to get off my fat ass and do anything because I don't do anything.
I don't email.
I don't research.
I don't do anything.
And if it's on my phone and I will maybe go like this or like that...
Or maybe text as little few words as possible.
A lot of emojis and shortcuts and glyphs and morphemes and phonemes and belches and eructations and barbaric verbiage.
Yeah.
But that's it.
I mean, they may agree with us.
They may agree, but please.
So, my friends, I say to you, Be fascinated.
Question everything.
Go deep, deep, deep, deep, deep, deep into the subject.
Keep going.
What do you mean genocide?
Who genocide?
Why didn't anybody?
Why aren't we?
I don't understand this.
I'm not suggesting it's not taking place.
For you to insinuate that there's some type of Marquis of Queensberry, some rules of acceptable war and destruction, don't make me laugh.
My friends, I thank you.
I thank you for this.
Thank you.
Please keep thinking.
Please study, study, study yourself.
Do you understand this?
Study.
You understand this?
This is the most important thing I say to you.
Study.
Be an autodidact.
Keep doing this.
Nobody's going to hand this to you.
I don't know if you're from this realm, but I think self-study is...
I've become expert on more things than you can imagine.
All right, my friends.
Have a great and a glorious day.
Thank you so, so much.
We will see you tomorrow at 8 a.m.
It's a very miserable day.
Rainy, dark, cold in New York City.
Kind of the way I like it.
Thank you for your fellowship.
Thank you for your friendship.
And thank you for your love.
And thank you for your attention.
And thank you for your devotion to the truth.
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, we'll see you tomorrow.
Same bad time, same bad channel.
In the morning, 8 a.m.
And don't forget, the monkey's dead.
The show's over.
Sue ya.
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