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Oct. 14, 2023 - Lionel Nation

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Israel vs. Hamas: The Politics of Incoherence

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	The genius cannot be said.
	I am I'm amazed at how people are just, they can't get their head around what is happening and how you should brush off the immediate reaction and then get to the deeper parts.
	What am I saying?
	Number one, in case you've just tuned in, welcome.
	Number one.
	Number one.
	Hamas.
	Or Hamas, is my friend.
	There's a guy on the radio who says Hamas.
	Anyway.
	And why people still say nuclear?
	Hamas is a terrorist organization.
	Let me say this again.
	Let me make sure we clarify this.
	It's not an army.
	In the usual vernacular of war and combatants, it is called a terrorist organization.
	You got that?
	You got that?
	That's what they do.
	That's what they do.
	You can call it anything you want.
	Terrorist organization.
	Their goal is to exact, to inspire, to create.
	Havoc, terror, bedlam.
	They are folks who are asymmetrical.
	They don't have uniforms.
	They're not part of a country.
	They're not an army.
	They're not whatever the definitions are.
	They are a terrorist.
	They used to be called guerrilla groups.
	Whatever you want to call it.
	Their job is to seek terror in order to force political change or the like.
	If they weren't, if there were not Israel there or Jews, they'd go after Christians.
	These folks do not have any type of goal or plan for the future.
	I don't know what it is, this 14th century, 5th century, whatever, medieval jihadist lunacy.
	I don't get it.
	It's one of those things.
	It's like, you know, certain paraphiles who do weird things among themselves.
	I don't know why they do it either, but let's make sure we understand that, okay?
	That's called Hamas.
	They're over there.
	We can talk about Hezbollah and other people.
	Very, very simple.
	You got that?
	This is rule number one.
	Those are, in American terms, the bad guys, okay?
	Okay.
	They're not helping the Palestinians.
	They're not helping the people in Gaza.
	They're not doing any of that.
	Their job is chaos, destruction, mayhem, murder, whatever you want to call it.
	That's Hamas.
	Okay?
	Good.
	Put that there.
	Next group.
	Palestinians are not Hamas.
	Don't confuse them.
	You want to march for Palestinians?
	Go ahead.
	Good people.
	Fine people.
	They deserve respect.
	They deserve life.
	They have children.
	They're humans.
	They're our brothers and sisters on the phylogenetic tree.
	They're no better or worse or different than we are.
	Those are called the Palestinians.
	And we can argue whether Palestine from Philistine and the name and whatever.
	Those are the people who live there.
	They are not Hamas.
	So, You could argue that maybe some members of Hamas might be Palestinians.
	But when you are looking at the two, and I can't believe I'm saying this because I'm watching this today and I'm thinking, does anybody, especially one fabled news show, news cable show, which I just cannot, but it's on my YouTube thing and it keeps hitting the rotation.
	You got that?
	Okay, good.
	Now, Israel.
	Israel is one of these things.
	Either Absolute enmity, hatred, pathological, focused, obsessed, crazed, just this, I mean, and Bibi Netanyahu, get it!
	You have that.
	Or, love, respect, Get tough.
	Whatever it is.
	It's love it or hate it.
	You got that?
	That's the third group.
	So you got Hamas, terrorist organization.
	Palestinians, people who live there, they're just like us.
	They're like the innocent folks.
	They're innocent.
	They have nothing to do with this.
	It's sad.
	They're forgotten.
	Israel.
	Israelis?
	Innocent people.
	Israeli government?
	Different.
	Let's try this again.
	You working with me on this?
	This is tough for people.
	I know one certain news show, they don't spend any time doing this.
	They kind of merge everything together.
	Everything kind of gets merged.
	And merger is a very dangerous thing.
	You got that?
	So let's start again.
	Hamas, bad.
	Palestinians, good.
	Israelis, good.
	Citizens, Israel or Israeli government, then you can argue all you want.
	And you're entitled to your argument.
	Boorish, bombastic, trespassory, whatever you want.
	It's a free country, think whatever you want.
	You got it?
	You got this?
	You got it?
	And you can also talk about, I don't even think the word Jews or Muslim, I don't think that's, I don't really think that's a, that's a really a, An operational aspect of this.
	But this is what we're talking about so far.
	You got it?
	Okay.
	Number one.
	Israel, the people, but specifically the government, did not encourage this attack.
	Let me say this again.
	Let me say this again.
	Israel did not encourage a terrorist attack.
	Never happened.
	You got that?
	You got that?
	And it's so funny how that works.
	It really is.
	It's kind of interesting to me how that works.
	Why is it interesting?
	Well, let me tell you why.
	This is a side note, and I'm going to bring this to your attention.
	This is a side note.
	At the time of the problems involving Ukraine and the like, remember that?
	I used to tell people that one of the problems that you have is that when you have a country, a country, An organization, quasi-organization, military, quasi-governmental, like NATO, that is propped up against the border, the area of Russia, basically, called Ukraine.
	And you have NATO saying, we're going to put, we're going to be operational, we're going to be operational right there on your border.
	On your border.
	NATO!
	On your border, Russia.
	And Russia said, don't do this.
	Don't do this.
	Now remember, NATO's not a terrorist.
	Russia's not a terrorist.
	Ukraine's not a terrorist.
	These are governmental.
	They have uniform.
	They've got a flag.
	Okay, fine.
	Under the classic definition.
	But they told Putin, listen, understand what's going on here.
	Putin said this, if you do this, This is a precursor to war.
	You are going to push the tripwire and we're going to go to war.
	You got that?
	Good.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Now, what did they do?
	They did that.
	So I would tell people, well, that's what Putin said.
	And people would say to me, no.
	That is no excuse.
	They did not, Ukraine didn't provoke, it didn't entice, incite, cause, any of that stuff.
	Now, those same people, who were basically Russo-phobic, red-baiters, they now say that somehow, in the case of Israel, Israel, the Israeli government, provoked Hamas!
	I said, wait a minute.
	Provocation doesn't apply to Russia when he said, you're putting a NATO country on my border.
	Even after 1962, we almost went to war with Russia because of missiles basically in Turkey.
	Anyway, do you see this?
	Because there's no logic.
	We work this out as we go.
	Because first and foremost, in this particular group of people that I'm talking about, is this primary concern of they hate Israel, and there's another part of this too.
	They love to be a part of the group.
	Now why do I say this?
	I said it first.
	The thing about Kissinger that was good was he's like the spider.
	He can read what's going on.
	And I'm looking around and I'm saying, okay, I read this.
	I understand what they're saying.
	Logic has nothing to do with this.
	I'm reading this.
	I'm reading the way they're doing this.
	I'm reading the way they are involved in this.
	I am reading.
	I am listening.
	I'm paying attention to what's happening.
	And it is this insanity.
	And you can hear any podcast you want.
	What would you like?
	Would you like pro Israel?
	Go over here.
	Then you get these people.
	Like Nikki Haley.
	Idiots.
	Okay?
	Idiots.
	Because she says, I'm running for office.
	I've got to be a conservative.
	We love war and I have this mindless obeisance to Israel that's not based on anything really other than the fact that I'm just, it's part of my thing.
	It's like the way conservatives are into guns and God and the Bible.
	So she said, You go in, Netanyahu, and you level Gaza.
	Wait a minute.
	Hold it.
	Stop this.
	That's what I gotta say.
	Because I'm a conservative, and I'm running, and I'm a woman, and I gotta be tougher than you!
	And you go in there and you...
	That's nuts!
	That is crazy!
	What are you level?
	These are human people.
	Okay!
	That's the way it goes!
	Move!
	Get out of the way!
	Then you've got other people who say, this is called, this is about this occupation.
	There's no Israel in Gaza since 2005.
	You know what I'm talking about.
	I don't care.
	They won't let them out.
	They can't get out.
	They can't do this.
	Do you know why?
	I don't care why.
	Don't you understand?
	Israel's bad.
	Nikki Haley says, Israel's good.
	And this is where we are right now.
	This is it.
	This is the level of this.
	This is nonsense.
	And then somebody will talk about it.
	I saw a video today on my private channel.
	I talk about this.
	LionelMedia.com.
	And it was one of the best.
	I think it was a rabbi who said, here's the history of...
	Of Gaza.
	Oh my god, it went to 6 AD.
	I mean, just, it was beautiful.
	It was so interesting, the history of it.
	Nobody cares about the history.
	Oh, shut up!
	Then we have, then we have, this is, this is, and I tried, I really, really Really try.
	I said, you know, I must not understand the whole Hamas thing.
	I must not get it.
	I must not understand it.
	I must not.
	So I tried everything.
	I spent so much time on YouTube.
	I got every Hamas leader.
	One guy was just the greatest liar.
	He reminded me of...
	Remember Saddam's guy?
	Remember the one Baghdad bomb?
	He goes, we're not...
	We didn't attack anybody.
	What are you talking about?
	What?
	No!
	There's no...
	You just told everybody you planned it for two years.
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	We planned a lot of things.
	I mean, it was nuts.
	And then you have these other folks who are thinking, wait a minute.
	Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
	And then it was another one.
	I forget what it was.
	It might have been that conservative cable station.
	Somebody said, well, you know, they're in Qatar.
	The headquarters of Hamas.
	They're to go into Qatar and blast!
	You want us to go into Qatar and start bombing Qatar?
	That's right, because they hold Hamas!
	And I'm thinking to myself, this is nuts.
	This is insanity.
	And this is conservative talk.
	This is the level of American...
	Well, it's not just American.
	And if I hear one more person on either sky, I love the Australians.
	They have this sky news.
	It's like us.
	It's like us.
	They're perfect.
	They laugh and they're very, very, very base.
	Not complicated.
	And invariably they get somebody who said, today we have, and I can't do an Australian accent, today we have somebody on from this who says that there was no such, that there was that.
	That Israel provoked this Hamas.
	And they get this schmuck on, and what do they do?
	You mean to tell me, kids?
	Let me go through this again.
	It's the same argument.
	We have not advanced.
	Now, today was the day of terror, day of jihad.
	Everybody's freaking out.
	Nobody knows what to do.
	Nobody knows how to handle this.
	Nobody knows what.
	And I'm realizing, dear friends, that we have come to the point where we don't know anything.
	Americans in particular, there's no...
	There's no complexity.
	There's no nuance.
	There's no anything.
	Do you want to know about it?
	No!
	I don't understand.
	I don't get it.
	Why are we so antithetical to, I guess, what one would call, basically, just rational thinking?
	Could somebody please help me with this thing called rational thinking?
	Is this where we're going?
	No, I'm serious.
	Is this?
	We are doomed.
	Now, I don't know if you've noticed this as well.
	Maybe you like this.
	Maybe you say, wait a minute, hold it.
	You know, what you're decrying is stupid.
	I kind of like.
	I sort of kind of like this thing, and I really don't want to get into it.
	Any kind of nuance or whatever.
	I'm not interested in that.
	But here's the best part.
	There's no answer to this.
	This is going to stop when they just stop.
	Let me say this again.
	There's nothing that anybody's going to be able to do.
	There's no plan.
	There's no anything.
	And if you go in, and by the way, by the way, There's one thing that Israel did say, which kind of sort of makes sense to me.
	He said, listen, you give up the hostages, and we'll talk.
	What hostages?
	The hostages you took.
	Give it up.
	Give them up, turn them back over, and then maybe we'll...
	Now, let's talk about the reality.
	Do you know what's going to happen to these poor people?
	Does that enter the calculus of your belief system?
	Is there a part of you that says there are little kids who have nothing to do with this?
	We don't forget them.
	We're so weird with kids.
	First, we talk about kids.
	But especially if they're elsewhere.
	If they're elsewhere.
	Sparky says, to be an enemy of America is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.
	Ah, Henry Kissinger.
	Excellent, Sparky.
	Oh, absolutely.
	Oh, we have this.
	Now remember, remember, we're not really involved in this.
	Well, we're giving some bunker busters and we're doing some things.
	We're bringing the Gerald R. Ford.
	The most complicated weapon system known to mankind called the Gerald R. Ford.
	Of all the people, it's like the Millard Fillmore.
	It doesn't necessarily...
	The Dwight Eisenhower.
	Yeah!
	The George Patton.
	Yeah!
	The Gerald Ford.
	But anyway, they're going over there and they're just ready to lend a hand, so to speak.
	Okay.
	In the meantime, in the meantime, do you see these poor folks in Gaza who are thinking, we have nowhere to go.
	If we die here, we die here.
	And Nikki Haley will say, well, that's it.
	You deserve it.
	I don't understand.
	I don't understand anything.
	We are sickening.
	And we also have...
	Whatever you want to call this.
	A jihadist.
	What is this?
	What is this?
	Explain this to me.
	Now, we've had terrorism.
	Troubles.
	We mentioned this.
	Troubles in Northern Ireland.
	Basque separatists.
	Shining path.
	You can go through the list.
	You can go through all this.
	And terrorism is kind of a cheap way of doing it.
	It's a way of fighting.
	But what is it that we're talking about?
	This is barbaric.
	This is barbarity.
	And let me tell you something.
	It's not going to end unless everybody decides, okay, we've had enough.
	Nothing.
	What are you going to do?
	Level Gaza?
	What are you going to do?
	What do you want?
	What are you going to do?
	You want to protest?
	Okay, go ahead and protest.
	What are you protesting for?
	What do you want to protest?
	What do you want to protest?
	What do you think is going to happen?
	Oh, Ramona.
	Bless your heart, Ramona.
	Ramona says, the illegitimate governments of the world are playing a high-stakes game of risk.
	All of the innocents of the world are disposable pawns.
	If we could turn the hate they want us to focus on each other and on the warmongering leaders, they would implode.
	Here, here.
	Here, here.
	This is Psychopathy.
	This is demented.
	This is a bloodthirsty disregard for reality, the likes of which we can't even comprehend.
	Sailing prepper dark secrets.
	Anytime the United States says they're going to hell, we just make it worse.
	The only real help is peace and real negotiation.
	Well, you know what?
	That's an excellent point, but here is my deal.
	This is the bottom line.
	And thank you for your kindness.
	Thank you for your contribution.
	Thank you for that.
	Seriously, we appreciate that.
	If you think...
	Let me explain it up here.
	Do you think that we can talk to Hamas?
	Do you think so?
	Do you think there's anybody in Gaza who says, yeah, man!
	You show them!
	Anybody?
	First question.
	Do you...
	Uh-oh.
	Sparky says, I may have gotten the quote slightly wrong.
	Kissinger may have said U.S. versus the United States or instead of America.
	Either way, I like the original one better.
	See, we're a weird...
	Let me tell you something.
	We're...
	Our government?
	We have no say.
	Don't look at me for our government.
	I don't know what we're doing.
	You see, this is the part that I don't understand.
	It's like when people used to play Risk, you know, these games.
	They look at human life like, it doesn't even matter.
	I don't even care about this.
	They don't care about this.
	They don't care about any of this stuff.
	They figure, look, we're at the point now, and I'm at the level where I'm just moving.
	Peace is around.
	And I just accept the idea of death and destruction and innocent life.
	It's just the way it goes.
	Whether it's dropping the bomb, whether it's Vietnam, whether it's whatever it is, there's always some poor schmuck in the way, some peasant, some mom and dad.
	We don't care.
	Jimmy Doolittle went in and they firebombed Tokyo.
	They don't care.
	They just, because when you're at that level, get ready for this.
	Get ready.
	They don't care about this.
	And what happens is, when you're talking to people, and you're living in some 4th century, I don't know, weird, whatever this weird is, you notice it's just bizarre.
	And I'm trying to explain, what do you want from this?
	Let me go back to this.
	The people in Gaza...
	Let's talk about that.
	And stop saying, you know, the occupation.
	Israel's not in Gaza.
	And you can say, yeah, but they control it.
	Okay, fine.
	But they left in 2005.
	That's the point.
	Anyway.
	And history doesn't do any good.
	It doesn't make any sense.
	I wish somebody would say, people of Gaza, Hamas is making it very difficult for you.
	What have they brought for you?
	Look at you.
	How does this happen?
	You're jammed into this, what, two and a half million?
	I think it was in 1940, maybe 300,000.
	They said, hey, there's too much.
	It's 300,000.
	It's seven, eight times that now.
	How did this get like this?
	Wait a minute, what?
	Is anybody paying attention?
	Who's in charge of this?
	Hey, Palestine!
	Aren't these your people?
	Do something!
	I don't know.
	That's Gaza.
	We're in the West Bank.
	Excuse me.
	Pardon me.
	Hello.
	Yeah.
	Jordan, Syria, Turkey, Turkey, Egypt.
	Excuse me.
	Anybody interested in helping these people?
	Ah, nah.
	Have you ever seen this?
	Is it me?
	Does anybody care about these people?
	Apparently not.
	Do you think maybe?
	Maybe you could say, here's what we're going to do.
	Let's have our own little coalition.
	What do you say?
	Egypt and Jordan and Syria and Turkey and Russia, wherever you want.
	We're going to go in there and we're going to have our own little kind of peacekeeping group, like our own little mini UN.
	We'll do it.
	We're the Muslim countries.
	We've got more money than you can imagine.
	Qatar, Bahrain, BRICS plus six, we'll do something.
	Answer my question.
	Why isn't anybody helping them?
	No, instead they're in Washington Square or they're in Cleveland protesting about occupation.
	Excuse me, why don't these countries that supposedly care about their Muslim Brotherhood, without mentioning the name of the organization, which is where, by the way, Gaza, Hamas, It's a very simple question.
	What don't you do?
	Why don't you do something?
	Does anybody talk to Hamas?
	I'm asking you the stupidest questions.
	They're so easy.
	Forget talking about Hamas.
	Does anybody think you're doing a good job?
	Raise your hand.
	Does anybody know anything?
	Does anybody say, well, you know, Hamas is doing a heck of a job.
	You know, in 88, they brought us Rhodes.
	I'm serious.
	Can you imagine if the Klan tried to run us?
	If the Klan or some, I don't know, some group of whatever people?
	This is the question.
	We're talking about all this protest.
	What is it?
	Forget this.
	What is Hamas doing there?
	What do they do?
	Do they have friends?
	Cut it behind them.
	Great.
	What are you accomplishing?
	What did you accomplish?
	You knew exactly what Israel was going to do, just like when NATO knew exactly what Putin was going to do, because he told you.
	You went in, you took two years, you did the most horrific.
	Oh, you hear now they're saying, oh, these claims, these pictures, this is AI.
	Now they're claiming they're not real.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So the people who were kidnapped, what?
	That's made up too?
	Is that fictional?
	Is that fictive?
	Is that fictitious?
	Do you think that's ersatz?
	Do you think that when the...
	The paragliders came during the wave.
	What?
	Did I ask you?
	What are you talking about?
	This is gobbledygook.
	What is it?
	And I want to get, and you have no idea, I want to get those Harvard pukes and say, what is it?
	You want to be one of the leaders of the greatest law school?
	Let's negotiate.
	What would you do?
	Is this it?
	You want to wear a headband and take a picture in front of the Harvard statute?
	Look at me, Mom!
	I'm on Instagram.
	I'm from the Chilean, Andalusian, Harvard Law, Liberation, Palestinian, whatever.
	You're all talk.
	So let me ask you something.
	What do you do?
	What do you do?
	Now let me tell you what's going to happen right now.
	Something bad is going to happen in this country.
	Something bad.
	Bad.
	I don't know exactly how it's going to be done.
	There's going to be one, two, three sleeper cells.
	Who the hell knows?
	But something bad is going to happen.
	And what's bad is a bunch of people doing some nasty stuff and they're going to be blamed.
	They're going to be blamed.
	They're going to be blamed precisely for what happened.
	And it will go back to Biden.
	Border practices.
	Oh, this is going to change everything.
	Oh, and Trump's going to say, what was that again?
	You know this is going to happen.
	And I don't want to get conspiratorial on you, but I'm telling you right now, it's going to happen either deliberately, naturally, or it's going to be, it's going to happen.
	Because America has been waiting for something.
	Because right now, as everybody is thinking, everybody's thinking, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Hamas.
	Yeah, I got it, I got it.
	Borders, terrorism.
	Yeah, yeah, I got it, got it, got it, got it.
	It's in our mind, yeah.
	But that's over there.
	Really?
	Yeah, that's over there.
	You think that's over there, huh?
	Just a second.
	Hold that thought.
	Hold my beer.
	Watch this.
	All of a sudden, Cleveland, Texas, San Diego, New York.
	Boom!
	Watch what happens.
	We went berserk over 9-11.
	And it didn't, for the most part, affect, really?
	I'm sorry to say this, please.
	There were 23, 2500 souls.
	Horrible.
	But it brought us together.
	There was a coalition of the willing.
	The world was behind us.
	It was a different story.
	It was, it was, it was, it was the, which, which leads a lot of folks to think different things.
	But, let's assume something bad happens for the sake of argument.
	And I hope it doesn't happen, but let's assume, okay?
	And it's identified, the person that's identified as being from the Alaksa.
	He yells that thing that everybody yells whenever they do.
	You know this particular phrase, that phrase which is now part and parcel of any terrorist activity.
	You hear this as they yell whenever they see something that's devastating, whenever they attack.
	All right.
	When that happens here, What happens?
	What happens?
	And the best thing about this country is we can change like that.
	All of a sudden we can say, wait a minute.
	Hold it.
	This just got personal.
	And, and, and, and if the person who does this is associated with Hamas, Then all of those Harvard pukes are going to say that, wait a minute, this is the one you were for?
	Wait a minute, hold it.
	So this is what MSDNC is behind?
	Wait a minute, hold it.
	No, no, no, this is...
	See, because America is very basic.
	You change the narrative very, very quickly.
	Sailing Prepper Dark Secret says, here's a question I don't know the answer to between the war in Biblical Times in 1935.
	I could not find much of any violence between Palestine and the Jewish community.
	Do you know the answer?
	Well, one would say, perhaps, that the reason why is that there weren't, there was no organized, and thank you, by the way, there was no Jewish Israeli community.
	It was still in the midst of the diaspora.
	They were here and there.
	They weren't there.
	This is...
	I mean, they were there, but there was no 1948 creation of the State of Israel.
	So maybe the reason why there wasn't anything going on there is that there was a degree of subjugation that these pre-Israel Israelis were suffering from and therefore were unable to mount any kind of a collective attack.
	On the day On the day, the day or the day after, that in 1948, when the State of Israel was created, they moved in.
	All of the country, I mean, they were hit left and right.
	In 1967, they took more land than they had.
	I don't know how they did it.
	Remember something here.
	Remember something.
	And this is something that I can't emphasize enough and I can't teach you enough.
	There's something about people who when they're fighting for something, they really, really, really are to be reckoned with.
	You've got to ask yourself, who has the fight?
	Who is...
	What is Hamas?
	How many are there?
	How many were there that day?
	How many?
	Who are they?
	Young people, right?
	Young people for the most part.
	It wasn't the most expensive of moves.
	You have young people, zealots.
	So who's behind them?
	Who said, yeah, go ahead and do it?
	Now, You know there were some folks who were, in this country as well, who absolutely loved it.
	Because they thought that the great Satan was finally being toppled.
	Okay.
	What about now?
	Now here's the deal.
	If you go to, if you, and this is, look please, remember what I'm saying.
	Remember what I told you initially.
	Hamas is here.
	The Palestinian people, That's the people you should be praying for.
	And the Israelis are citizens.
	Both.
	But they're saying, we had nothing to do with this.
	We never signed off on this.
	And I...
	Some may lie.
	Whatever it is.
	Why is anybody asking Hamas, what did you do?
	What was the purpose of this?
	What were you trying to accomplish?
	See, that's the part that's left out of the equation.
	What did you do?
	What were you thinking?
	If somebody were, let's assume, you were the government of Chile, and you had a wild hair up your keister, and you said, I'm going to attack the United States.
	And the U.S. says, what?
	Yeah, I'm going to attack the United States.
	You're going to attack the United States?
	And the U.S. says, shit.
	We're going to teach him a lesson.
	Somebody would get mad.
	Somebody would say to the leadership of Chile, what were you thinking?
	What are you, nuts?
	You took on who?
	Okay.
	Where is the anger towards Hamas?
	Nowhere.
	Where is it?
	Nowhere.
	We're talking about Israel.
	Where are the people who said, who had the bright idea?
	Who was this?
	Who signed off on this?
	Who, Jordan?
	Was that you?
	Syria?
	Lebanon?
	Who?
	Egypt?
	Anyway, MBS?
	Qatar?
	Emirates?
	Bahrain?
	Morocco?
	Who?
	Who signed off on this?
	Who is behind?
	Stand up.
	Take one step forward.
	Please, take a bow.
	You're a big boy now.
	Remember that?
	John Sebastian song.
	Anyway, that's what I want to know.
	You started this.
	Okay, it was bad before.
	It's going to get real bad now.
	Do you understand what I'm saying?
	Why isn't...
	Nikki Haley, calm down.
	Why isn't anybody saying, give Joe Biden something to read and just say, our question is this, who is behind Hamas?
	Who...
	There's one thing that George Bush used to say.
	It was simple.
	It was very simple.
	But he said, you're either with us or you're with them.
	I thought, well, okay, maybe that's a little, you know, you're either with us or against us kind of a thing.
	It's a very smart thing.
	Who's behind this?
	And by the way, I want the people of Gaza to understand this because we said to Hamas, give us the hostages back and we'll consider.
	But so far you've said no.
	Nobody seems to be giving them any blame or anything.
	So I want to know about that.
	That's the part.
	Now, maybe I'm just a simple man.
	Maybe I just don't understand these things.
	Maybe I don't understand the history, and I'd rather talk about...
	Oh, my God.
	If I see one more...
	And I'm not going to mention the names, but oh, there's this one that she just gets on my nerves.
	She acts like she's the only one who knows this.
	And then, the settlements.
	We know this!
	Why are you...
	World War I. Post-Versailles.
	And a man who...
	You know, the idea of history is not to just rehash.
	It's to give us kind of a new take on this.
	And this is where we are right now.
	And then I love all these...
	Again, I'm not going to mention the names, but I'm listening to this.
	I know this.
	And people must like it.
	They just want a lot of pictures.
	A lot of pictures and bombs.
	They love to see bombs playing.
	Isn't that something?
	You know when you see those buildings go down like that?
	What does that mind you of?
	I'm just saying.
	I don't want to bring that up now.
	You notice how you never hear anything?
	You never hear a...
	You never see anything.
	You never hear anything.
	It's just, there it is.
	I don't know how these things land or where they're from, but that's it.
	And people love to see that because that's...
	And they always do this.
	Viewer advisory, the following scenes may be troublesome.
	You might not want to see this.
	Viewer discretion is...
	That just means watch this.
	We're going to show you some great stuff.
	Did you ever see on Twitter they say this is disturbing?
	Or on YouTube?
	Are you sure you want to watch it?
	Are you sure you want to watch it?
	That's like on Instagram.
	I love this.
	Are you sure you want to see this?
	I got some bad stuff here.
	It involves aphids and maggots.
	Are you sure you want to see this?
	Yes, I want to see this.
	Of course I want to see this.
	Why?
	Because you're asking me if I want to see it.
	I want to see it.
	That's all they care about.
	So, your question is, who's behind?
	And by the way, Sparky brought it up.
	Sparky talks about who funds Hamas.
	Got it.
	I understand it.
	That's okay.
	But, who is saying, right?
	Will there ever be a time in history where people say, remember in 2023?
	Yeah, remember God, thank God for Hamas.
	They fixed everything.
	Remember when they came along and they raised holy hell?
	It was so terrific.
	Things were really bad then.
	But after Hamas, it was perfect.
	I mean, we started getting the attention, the respect.
	We had more.
	They were building things.
	They added on, so to speak.
	Guys, I don't know where these folks are going, but do you think anything's going to...
	What were you accomplishing?
	What?
	Edie Crowley says, how I wish Golda Meir was still with us.
	You know, did you ever hear her story, Edie?
	She was quite the little pepper pot there, the...
	Not the heart.
	She was...
	Wow!
	Check out her background, so to speak.
	She's the one who said, I believe she said, if the Arabs put down their weapons, there's peace.
	If the Jews put down their weapons, we're annihilated.
	I think it was true.
	You see, this is one of the things that I would love.
	Just love.
	Oh, oh, did you hear this one?
	Am I reading this?
	Did you hear it correctly about, is it Ronaldo or in Iran that if he's considered to be of adultery, there was a picture of him touching a woman or, you know, the soccer superstar?
	I don't know if any of this stuff's true.
	But...
	There are folks living in periods of time that are...
	And I would love, love to get some of those little Harvard pukes.
	By the way, any LGBT...
	Oh, anybody here?
	Come on, come here.
	You want to go to Iran with us?
	Would you like to go?
	Have you ever protested them?
	I'm just curious.
	Have you ever protested gay kids?
	Thrown off of buildings.
	Remember those?
	Would you like me to show you those?
	Maybe you don't believe that.
	Would you like to hear the words of mullahs and ayatollahs?
	Would you like to hear that?
	They don't particularly cotton to gay whatever.
	Does that bother you?
	At all?
	Does that?
	Maybe?
	No?
	You sure about that?
	Because believe it or not, if you're in Israel, No sweat.
	No problem.
	I remember when we were there, I asked, is there a prohibition against women in common?
	They said no.
	And they kept saying, unless something affects the continuity of the team or whatever it was.
	What about gays?
	Nope.
	Nope.
	Believe it or not, as you know, Israel is one of the most secular countries in the world.
	Now, isn't that interesting?
	We live in a world right now where we've got people who are going absolutely bananas if you're not LGBTQ plus CEI or whatever enough.
	And these folks are living again in the 5th century.
	Sparky says, Ottoman Empire rescued tens of thousands of Sephardics from the Spanish Inquisition.
	It's a cop-out and not true to say they were always enemies.
	Indeed.
	Indeed.
	I don't really know, very frankly, who is you two.
	VK just absolutely bitching and moaning.
	Bless your heart.
	Must be tough being you, VK.
	Must be tough.
	Oh my God, the horrors you go through.
	This is just...
	Poor man trying his best.
	I don't know how you do it.
	You know what?
	I thought I had it bad.
	But you, my friend, you are the quintessence.
	If I heard about lightning rod for agonistes, we're going to write a play about you.
	I understand it.
	It's important.
	It's tough.
	It's tough.
	The complaint, I don't understand this.
	I'm trying to write something.
	Let me write.
	What the hell's going on here?
	We got people who don't have water.
	Nobody in Gaza is saying, yes, but don't forget VK has a trouble with it.
	Yes, you're right.
	We could be him.
	We could be him.
	I don't want to even suggest this in the slightest bit as being interpreted as being funny.
	There's nothing funny or cute or whatever it is.
	But can you imagine if this country had to endure what those poor people in Gaza are enduring now and what they are going to?
	Ramona, thank you so much.
	When you ask what the purpose was, you must ask if they anticipated the retaliation.
	Of course they did.
	So now we must ask, what is the motivation to elicit the response?
	And what will the next chess move be?
	First of all, thank you immensely.
	Let's go through this very carefully.
	Is this a chess game?
	No.
	Is this calculated?
	No.
	Is there a negotiating arm of it?
	No.
	What is the purpose?
	What does Hamas want to accomplish?
	What?
	What is the goal?
	What is the purpose, Ramon?
	I'm asking you.
	What do they want to have?
	Is any of this even remotely?
	Aligned, is this even remotely involved with and in the benefit of anyone?
	No.
	They knew what was going to happen.
	They knew this.
	Not the West Bank, not the Palestinian Authority, not Abu Mazen.
	No, no, no.
	It's there.
	It's Hamas.
	In this penned-up, horrible...
	The folks who were...
	I mean, how they lived there.
	And do you think the...
	And they will tell you this.
	And look, we know this.
	Look, this is axiomatic.
	You're not going to hear anybody...
	You're not going to hear those Harvard pukes ever bring anything.
	You're not going to do this.
	But here's the deal.
	When they set up military and they set up fire power, fire, fire, artillery, artillery.
	I can't think tonight.
	Weapons, rockets, missiles.
	When they use human shields, where is anybody talking about that?
	I don't understand this.
	Let's assume that I'm a climate change activist.
	I'm Greta Thunberg.
	I'm Greta Thunberg.
	And I go in and I commandeer a nursery school with little kids.
	And I'm shooting and I'm...
	Does anybody say, you know, climate change is an exit?
	No, no, excuse me.
	We're not talking about the cause.
	You want to do a nursery school?
	I don't want to hear about your cause.
	You just lost me.
	But no, they don't do that.
	They say, well, you know, Israel is an apartheid state.
	And they say this.
	Can you spell apartheid?
	Do you know what apartheid means?
	Kind of.
	Kind of.
	But it's a slogan.
	I don't know.
	I just say things.
	It's like I say bro.
	Everybody says bro.
	Bro, or bruh, if you could.
	I'm tired of bro.
	Everybody's into the bro thing, you know what I'm saying?
	Why?
	Because it's part of the crowd mentality.
	Again, anybody, any of the protests, anybody say, excuse me, I'd like to join in with you, but can we talk about disproportional?
	What was...
	Look what Hamas did to you.
	I don't know if we could have sound trucks.
	And we're supposed to care about people.
	We're supposed to care about people.
	We're supposed to care about people.
	We don't care about human beings.
	We don't care.
	We don't care.
	I don't understand this.
	We are sickening.
	I don't understand.
	Little kids, people.
	We come across, and theoretically, everybody's religion.
	That's the part that kills me.
	That's the part that kills me.
	This is theoretically about people, ostensibly, who are involved in religion, God.
	Everything they do is God, the word God.
	God willing, God be willing.
	What does your guy think about this?
	Well, you know, it's Israel.
	Different story.
	Different story.
	But they're occupiers.
	They're apartheid.
	Say the whole thing.
	What does it have to do with this?
	Nothing.
	But I'm a parrot.
	And here's the thing.
	I've got a friend.
	I told you.
	My friend who has disowned me, I guess.
	And I'm saying, I want to look after these poor people in Gaza.
	I don't understand how you're supposed to miss that.
	I'm not arguing the point.
	I never hear him talking about it.
	All he's talking about is Israel.
	All right.
	Just like in my analogy, if somebody takes over our nursery school, these damn climate change people, no, excuse me, this is murder.
	Yeah, I know, but that Greta Thunberg, Greta Thunberg has nothing to do with it.
	Oh, Ramona, bless your heart, she says, they want to make Look bad in the eyes of the world when they retaliate.
	Well, you know, it's kind of tough when you're discussing things that are in the news and you can't use the name of the place that's in the news.
	Look, thank you, by the way, Ramona, thank you so much.
	You know and I know what this is.
	We know what this is.
	Let me start off by what I said.
	Remember when I started speaking to you 59 minutes and 40 seconds ago?
	You've got Hamas.
	You've got the people of Gaza.
	You've got the people of Israel.
	And you've got the Israeli government.
	Very simple.
	Forget the other Hezbollah.
	That's it.
	And they don't really have anything to do with each other.
	The people of Israel The people, the people, the citizens, they don't rule on this.
	They live there.
	They want to do the same stuff you do.
	Isn't it interesting?
	They want to just be normal and have kids and be nice and eat their stuff and enjoy themselves, and that's it.
	Okay?
	That's all they want.
	That's what everybody wants.
	You know that.
	I know that.
	We all know that.
	And Gaza, wonderful people.
	I wish we could sit, and I would love, I swear to you, the chance to share food with people.
	Look at this.
	Why is Gaza referred to as an open-air prison?
	Well, the reason, and by the way, because they're saying, because they can't leave, that there is, what, six checkpoints?
	Or seven?
	Controlled by Israel, those are shut down.
	And the one that goes into Egypt at Rafa, and Egypt's closed up, so they can't get out.
	They can't leave.
	That's the theory.
	And that's a tremendous thing to bring up.
	In fact, what they should be talking about, in addition, is that's a great point.
	Now, Israel, what's your point?
	Why?
	Because they're putting missiles.
	This is in our country.
	Okay.
	This is in our country.
	Right there.
	And we are going to be shelled.
	They also say that the underground systems are unbelievable.
	Now, they will tell you the reason why we have underground tunnels is because we have to get around these checkpoints.
	We have to get in food and provisions and, you know, comestibles and water.
	Okay.
	Israel says, well, that might be.
	But the other reason, too, is they want to basically destroy us.
	And we can't allow that.
	So, do you think Israel's making that up?
	Do you think they're exaggerating?
	Or is it true?
	Is it a combination?
	Meanwhile, the people of Gaza are saying, we have nothing to do with this.
	We're being held hostage.
	You know what?
	They're saying, maybe this is a prison, and maybe this is a prison where the prisoners have taken over the assignment.
	Anyway.
	It is so easy.
	It is so monumentally easy.
	The issues here, I don't understand it.
	When I say it's easy, not to resolve, but how we're arguing the wrong thing.
	And just remember one thing.
	Just remember one thing.
	With the exception of The usual suspects.
	More conservative, if you will, programs and platforms.
	They're obviously not going to be giving Hamas an easy time of this, nor should they.
	But that's their thing.
	That's, you know, whatever it is.
	And by the way, if people do have grievances or complaints against Israel, they should be able to speak about them.
	They should be able to listen to them.
	They should be able to, like anybody else, you got a problem, you got a base, let's talk about it.
	Absolutely.
	It goes with us.
	But Hamas, nobody's saying anything.
	I'm now repeating myself.
	Let me just stop.
	I don't want to get to that point.
	It's to me obvious.
	Ask yourself.
	Watch TV.
	Watch...
	What's his name?
	Asan, Mehdi Asan.
	Watch whoever the...
	I don't know.
	But watch.
	Listen to the usual people.
	Watch your usual, your favorite liberal platforms.
	I hate these words.
	And watch how they will never ask anything.
	Today we have Bill Lee's expert from the...
	Professor, let me ask you a question.
	What the hell is with Hamas?
	Why are they doing this?
	What?
	You're supposed to ask me the question.
	I'm asking you a question.
	But you're a liberal.
	Well, why?
	This liberal is asking you a question.
	What the hell were they thinking?
	Is it too much to ask?
	No.
	It's incredible, dear friends.
	Absolutely incredible.
	So Edie Crowley, thank you.
	Ramona, R. Heath, God bless you.
	Thank you so much.
	You are absolutely in Maine in your generosity.
	Sparky, thank you for your wisdom, your perspective, your historical reference.
	Edie Crowley, we love you.
	Sailing Prepper Dark Secret, I like that.
	Thank you also for your magnanimity as well.
	Thank you immensely.
	And 1-800-LINEL-NOW.
	Thank you as well for your comedic genius and the like.
	Okay, my friends.
	That's it.
	We have had one hell of a night tonight.
	And I hope, I hope that by virtue of what we do, by virtue of what we've said, that we're able to somehow transcend this and you'll be able to go elsewhere.
	Oh!
	Raphael Legon said, Sir, Socrates and Plato were preaching against the very type of democracy we have now.
	That led Greece to war.
	Why are we making the same mistakes now?
	Oh my gosh.
	Well, you know what's funny?
	I love the notion of the term democracy.
	Democracy, I believe, Raphael, I believe, and I might be mistaken here, that Benjamin Franklin or somebody said, democracy is two wolves debating with a sheep.
	What's for lunch?
	Tyranny by the majority is the worst thing in the world.
	We are a constitutional republic.
	That's why we always stay away from it.
	This is also not about religion.
	There are many, many wonderful people who have very strong religious beliefs.
	When you take lunacy, And for lack of a better word, a kind of a jihadist, I'm just giving this, I don't know what this word is, but this backwards, yeah.
	Rapacious, homicidal, lunatic, without any, there's no negotiation, there's no nothing.
	And by the way, we have a lot of blame to go around, but triage issue number one.
	The attack on innocent civilians?
	By the way, when you say, well, you know, there have been Gazan children, children of Gazan have been killed, that's an excellent point.
	We'll get to that later.
	You're right about that.
	Does that excuse this?
	You say, I'm sorry, excuse me.
	Hamas, go ahead, why?
	Well, because Israeli soldiers shot or were accused to have shot people incorrectly.
	So you know what?
	That's it.
	Go ahead.
	We have no moral high ground.
	There's no ability we have now to say stop.
	We can't fight back because that's insane.
	You know what I know.
	And the very fact that I'm even discussing it goes to show you that perhaps I might be losing my mind.
	Now, dear friends, let me ask you a very, very, very big and important issue.
	Mrs. L has her YouTube channel.
	I want you to immediately go.
	Immediately.
	And go right now and sign up for it.
	That's the link right there.
	She has been talking about children.
	She has been talking about children.
	And one of the things she's been talking about, which I think we've all forgotten, I'm giving it to you again, is, dare I say, American kids.
	Not that kids are less important there, but we have horrors that are going on in our country that nobody wants to address at all.
	So please, I ask you, go ahead and do this and make sure you sign up for her wonderful, wonderful, wonderful newsletter.
	I mean her YouTube site and the like.
	And if you pray, pray that this stops immediately.
	Pray for the poor people in Gaza.
	Don't forget them.
	It's not an either or.
	Pray for anybody.
	Pray for the families whose kids were killed, whose family members are missing.
	Do you know what that is?
	I don't care who you are.
	I don't care where you are.
	That idea that your kids were abducted from a theater, abducted in war, abducted at gunpoint, you can only imagine.
	And then they take their cell phones and they're calling.
	I mean, it's barbarism.
	I can't believe we share DNA.
	What is accomplished by this?
	We'll be back tomorrow.
	I thank you, my friends.
	See you at 8 a.m. in the morning.
	Don't forget, Eastern Time, until then, again, thank you for your kindness and your generosity.
	We'll see you then.
	Don't forget, as we always say, the monkey's dead.
	The show's over.

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