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April 21, 2023 - Lionel Nation
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Artificial Intelligence Examined (Truthfully)
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Check 1, 2, 3. Where to start?
Where Just start.
How do you even begin the, well, let's see where we're going.
How do you start off and how do you maintain a uniqueness different than anybody else?
Different, not because you just want to be different, but you realize, what are we trying to accomplish here?
What are we really, what are we trying, what are we trying to do?
What is it that we're trying to accomplish?
What is it?
What is it?
What's the point of this?
Is this just talking about it?
There are people who feel like their job is to just tell stories.
Talk about laws changing the use of mascots for a sport team.
That's a real popular one.
That's good for hours and days.
Bores me.
I've been doing this for 35 years, professionally.
I've been calling talk shows for 40. They've been talking about this forever.
It's the same perennial subject.
What is this about?
What are we talking about?
I have no idea.
What is it that gets you to go?
I don't know.
What are people saying?
I don't know.
It's the most fascinating subject there is.
God, how I love it.
It just makes me so interesting.
So I'm going to go through this today.
I'm going to go through this.
And yesterday I was thinking, again, I just got to tell you this.
I went to a store, buying my provisions, and I'm looking at all these lines and checkout lines.
People, they have...
How the automatic checkout line is going to destroy, forget AI, but forgetting it's going to destroy supermarkets where you have a woman doing the price check.
There's an old YouTube I watch sometimes of the way women in the 50s and 60s used to check out the...
It was wonderful.
But as I looked at this mayhem, this cacophony of individuals, I thought, my God, what happens when this thing goes...
What happens if all of a sudden there was an emergency?
How fast would it be for this place to be stripped?
Let's say everybody did a run.
For whatever it's worth, you thought there was a run.
Somebody says supply chain breakdown.
You look at your local news.
They're at Costco's and Walmart's and Piggly Wiggly's and Cash and Gary's and Publix and Acme's.
Shop rights and all of this.
And they're in the...
They see the long lines of people and then they have security letting so many people in and these people are walking out with their baskets filled with stuff.
Why?
Because of the supply chain problem or even the threat.
How fast do you think they would strip bare the shelves?
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A couple hours?
Maybe?
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It was so terrific, so wonderful.
I want you to go to LinzWarriors, Linz underscore Warriors.
Do you know this wonderful woman that her name is Madeline Brame.
She was the brave mother who appeared before the New York City, well, in New York City, appearing before the federal, this organization, this group, this cabal, this cadre, this convocation, led by Jim Jordan and others.
Jerry, how about the pants line?
Jerry Nadler and others claiming this is a gimmick.
Her son.
Did you see this?
Madeline Brame.
One of the most eloquent women people I have ever heard.
Madeline Brame.
She is just...
Wonderful.
Her son, Hassan Correa, 35-year-old father of three, army veteran.
He was assaulted, attacked by people he didn't know.
Stabbed to death during an altercation outside an apartment building.
Anyway, you've seen her.
Well, last night, we were on an event.
Mrs. L. had her on her radio show.
Which is exquisite on TNT Radio Live every day, 4 to 6 p.m., Mrs. L's show, State of the Nation.
It's on every day on TNT Radio Live.
She's exquisite.
She's exquisite.
She doesn't know how good she is.
It's like if all of a sudden I said, hey, I can run, and I'm running a three-minute mile.
But nobody ever told me that nobody's ever done this before, or how difficult it is.
That's the way she is.
But she was on, and this woman is part of a group of people, Madeline Brayman.
Please go to Mrs. Ells.
I'm telling you, her Twitter.
And don't tell me.
Please, give her the program.
Lynn's underscore warriors.
So, last night she was there.
There's a wonderful picture of Mrs. LN, Madeline Brame.
And it was an event we saw, which was so terrific.
And it was at a place, it was at a thing, an event.
It was so terrific.
And it was at a group called the Metropolitan Republican Club.
Now, I'm not a Republican.
I never Ever thought, in my wildest imagination, ever, that I would even be hanging around Republicans.
Because when I grew up, Republicans were the last thing I ever wanted to get near.
They were fuddy-duddies.
They talked about stuff I had no...
This is when I was a teenager.
Democrats were hip.
It was anti-war.
Better music.
All of the cool people and the stars.
Everybody...
Republicans, John Wayne.
John Wayne, Green Berets.
What is this?
What are you talking about?
I never understood.
This was my frame of reference.
This is in the 60s and 70s.
Well, here's the world.
So last night, Tom Homan spoke.
Did you ever see Tom Homan?
Tom Homan was incredible.
He was the head of ICE.
Who just destroys.
This is the guy that...
He reminds me, if you've ever seen these folks, they look like these British bill collectors or credit...
these knuckle breakers.
I mean, this is a tough guy.
You know who I'm talking about.
Tom Homan.
There's a fellow, Jason Jones, who was a...
Former Special Forces veteran talking about the border.
Freaked me out.
Mrs. L spoke about digital safety, children, whatever.
It was the most incredible thing in the world.
You can't believe what we're hearing.
And it was filled full of people that you look at and I'm thinking to myself, what are these people?
Are they Republicans or no?
I mean, they might be.
It's not about Republicans.
It's about what are we doing with our country?
What's happening right now?
It's the most incredible thing I've ever seen in my life.
The lectures.
Homan was killing them about the border.
And what the cartels are doing?
Oh!
And it occurred to me.
I feel absolutely worthless every single day trying my best.
Trying to find that analogy, that explanation, that means of describing what is happening so people will say, I got it!
And during the day, I was still looking.
I don't know what I was looking at.
Something.
And there was a scene from a like a radiology suite or something.
He had all these films and pictures up.
And the doctors were looking at this.
And I imagined my world now as follows.
I'm in this room.
I'm in this hospital.
And I'm looking at this film.
And I, as a doctor, say, you see that?
That looks like a tumor.
Looks like a neoplasm.
I don't like the size of this.
It's growing.
Do we have pathology over here?
This is not good.
This is not good.
This is a stage 4, whatever it is, or stage 3. Okay.
Now.
Let's go to surgery.
Do we have any surgeons?
Nope.
We don't have surgery?
Nope.
You don't have any surgeons at this hospital?
You don't have a surgery department?
Nope.
Okay.
Maybe we'll work on radiation chemotherapy.
Bring in the oncologist.
We don't have that either.
You don't have that.
No.
You're in a hospital.
What do you do?
We just look at it.
We diagnose it.
Do you really understand what this is?
Not really.
We know it's bad, but we...
Do you know where it comes from?
No.
Do you know how to prevent this?
No.
Now wait a minute.
You're in a hospital.
Let me get this straight.
You're walking around with the hat on and the scrubs.
Now, you don't have a surgeon.
You don't have an oncologist.
Do you have any nurses?
Oh, we got nurses.
We got people walking around.
They're kind of talking about it.
We talk about it.
We talk about things.
We don't have operating rooms.
We have auditoria where people can just talk about this, where people can talk about their cancers and talk about their pancreatitis or their ischemia, whatever it is.
But we don't do anything.
We just talk about it.
That's what we do.
That's what we do.
Second analogy.
Imagine being in medieval times and you are sent back.
You're sent from now back.
And you're in a medical school and you're trying to explain to them schizophrenia.
Chemical imbalances, Tourette's, caprolalia, The use of depression.
And you're talking about neurochemicals and dopamine.
And they're looking at you like, what are you talking about?
And they're thinking of things like the devil and evil.
And they've got poultices and garlic cloves.
And you're trying to explore.
And they're reacting to it.
And they're going about this in the weirdest way.
They think this one person with, let's say, some kind of neurological tick, they think they're possessed by the devil.
And they're doing exorcisms and they're witches.
I don't even know where to start.
They don't know anything.
I say, you know the brain?
The brain?
You don't know what the brain is?
You mean this?
Oh, you mean the spirit?
No!
The brain!
The cerebellum!
What?
Dopamine!
Neurotransmitters!
What?
Dendrites?
Axons?
Synapses?
What?
Tumors?
Huh?
Oh my God!
Then you go back into the more current time, at least we're in this, but I'm in a hospital, and they don't do anything.
But they identify it, and they're real good at that.
And not only that, they have people who come out, and they're really dressed, Very nicely.
And they sit on couches.
And they're very made up.
And they get a lot of Botox.
They have these weird kind of eyes.
And they think they're stars.
And you think, wait, wait, wait.
This is a hospital?
Yes.
Who are these people?
Oh, they're not the doctors.
They describe.
They explain.
They report.
We're in the surgical suite right now, and right now we have our fifth neoplasm.
Looks a little aggressive, doesn't it, Doctor?
It sure does.
Haley or Jasmine, whoever you are.
Yes, as you can see right now by the size of this thing, ooh, this tumor is rather aggressive.
And look at this last film.
It is growing exponentially.
And we say, I give the patient untreated, which is what it's going to be, six weeks, tops, maximum.
You don't have any doctors?
No.
There's no...
Do you know how they got this?
No.
We're diagnosing it.
We don't know where it came from.
You don't know where the cancer came from?
You don't know anything about environmental?
No.
Really?
No.
In a hospital?
In a hospital.
We don't know anything about that.
We don't have time for that.
But how do I look?
How do I look?
I'm the presenter at the hospital.
I go from room to room.
I go out into the waiting room, and I tell the patients.
By the way, thank you so much for attending.
By the way, who's the, is the, is the, um, the, uh, Callahan family?
Oh, the Callahan family?
Come on in.
Well, here's the news.
As far as Uncle Joe goes, ooh, does not look good.
We're talking a glioma the size of a melon.
And this thing, as you know, is the most aggressive.
We think.
We're not really sure how the brain works, but it's one of the most aggressive forms of cancer there is.
And there is nothing we're going to be able to do about it.
We don't even know what it is.
But if you'd like to see a picture of it, we have great pictures.
And we'll describe it.
And if we want, we have this one lady you can go talk to.
She sits on the couch and she cries a lot.
She'll pretend that she really cares about you, but what she really cares about is her hair and makeup.
How do you like that?
This is a hospital?
Yes.
You don't do anything?
No.
That's my world!
That's it!
And they bring up the silliest things.
And by the way, not all of these...
We don't have just pictures of, you know, we have one today.
Here's a news story that was floating around.
One was Bridget Fonda.
You ever seen this?
Boy, Bridget Fonda sure looks bad.
She's getting older.
Well, you know, in Bridget Fonda, she was really hot.
Excuse me.
This is a news story?
Yes.
Bridget Fonda's getting old and she doesn't...
Okay.
What else do you have?
True story, New York Post.
This woman is not, no, she's being slammed, always slammed, because she's growing hair in her axilla.
She has this hispidulous thatch of her suitness in the axillae.
She doesn't shave her armpits.
This is a story.
Or, here's another classic.
A new law will prevent the use of certain Native American or whatever mascot names.
Oh, this has been going around forever.
Now I'm thinking to myself, oh my God.
So last night, I'm watching Mrs. L speak exquisitely.
And I'm listening to these people.
We're talking about the border.
And it's not really about the border.
It's about cartels.
It's about the situation.
I don't mean to laugh.
It is beyond anything you can understand.
And then, and then, and then, And then, I meet some very nice people who watch us daily, and they're very nice.
And I was asked the question, what's the story that you, what's the story?
And I thought, believe it or not, we've got young people in the family, and young people in particular, they were worried about nukes.
No, I'm not worried about the nukes.
I'm worried about artificial intelligence.
And I realized then, I'm like the analogy I just gave, going back in time, explaining to somebody during the time of Vermeer or Da Vinci or something, and I'm trying to explain hemispherectomies.
Or, or, or, or, maybe, maybe going to meeting Newton, Isaac Newton, and saying, listen, I'm from the future.
Have you heard about string theory or quantum gravity?
Einstein?
Well, you haven't met him yet.
The twins paradox?
Schrodinger's cat?
Split screen?
Probability and probabilistic?
Supersymmetry?
Huh?
This guy's worrying about apples falling from trees, apocryphally.
Motion?
The star?
Going back and telling Copernicus, listen.
Stick with this.
You're right.
You were in Galileo.
Spot on.
These guys don't know.
Do you know that in our galaxy, excuse me, in the visible universe, in the what?
In the visible universe, there's about two trillion stars.
What?
What do you mean the visible universe?
Oh, no, no, no.
You don't have a telescope here?
No.
That's the way I am explaining artificial intelligence.
I was on a radio show, and the person, very nice, very nice person, said, well, you know, I don't have those apps.
I said, no, no, no, no, this is not an app.
Artificial intelligence is not an app.
It's every, huh?
It's, well, we've always had that.
No, we haven't.
This is the nuclear bomb.
We've always had weapons.
No.
No.
This is AIDS.
Well, we've always been sick.
No!
This is a different kind of sick.
And people say, whatever.
Because they go back to the hospital where they just talk about stuff.
Artificial intelligence, it's the name throws people off.
It throws people off.
It doesn't sound scary.
It doesn't do anything.
Intelligence?
That's good, right?
How about artificial evil?
Would that change it?
Maybe.
Maybe.
Maybe that would do it.
Intelligence.
That's good, isn't it?
Or artificial.
That's good, right?
It's a robot?
No.
No.
I met a very great person.
Last night was in a wonderful event.
We're in a building.
What was it?
1902 Upper East Side.
It was incredible.
And, before I forget, The people who were there was for every conceivable.
We had the Upper East Siders.
Well, they used to be calls.
Now it doesn't mean anything.
People from Jersey and people from wherever.
And then we had this wonderful contingent of African Americans.
And one young man I met, as people were talking, he stood up and did this kind of like in the church.
And he would do like this.
Go on!
Go on.
And the speaker was not accustomed to this and said, okay.
And pretty soon, it got to be rocking.
And I said, look at this.
We have black evangelicals, men and women of different age.
People who are just, this is the most diverse group of people I've ever seen in my life.
And these are supposedly stodgy Republicans.
Look at this.
This is the most ecumenical.
Group of folks I've ever seen, all worried about what's going on.
But as we're talking about artificial intelligence, and then I just happened to see Joe Rogan, who is the most important person on news today.
Joe, they're coming after you next.
You know this.
I know this.
We know this.
You, they want you.
They're going to pull a trump on you.
You watch what happens.
Anyway.
And he's talking to somebody, and I said, who is this?
Because he has some great guests on.
Howie Mandel on artificial intelligence, if I tell you I watch 10 seconds of that, it might be the most brilliant thing.
No.
I want you to imagine somebody picks up the phone or somebody calls you.
When I say somebody, it's not somebody.
Who?
It's AI.
Who is it?
It's Mr. AI.
But what does he look like?
It's not a he.
And there's a sampling.
A sampling of every voicemail, every person's voice.
But let's just make it simple.
Somebody calls up your home.
Your daughter answers the phone and hangs up.
Now, first of all, who answers the phone today with a number you don't know?
I don't know.
But let's say they call up and get your daughter's phone on a voicemail.
By the way, I would lose that voicemail real quick.
Because, by the way, this artificial intelligence I'm talking about, this is in the last month, month and a half.
This is brand new.
But the news story is brand new.
I mean, this is cutting edge.
Seriously.
Somebody calls up your daughter, hears her voice, gets three seconds, and immediately, boom, can mimic, fake, whatever it is, your daughter's voice.
Next thing you know, you get a call from your daughter saying, hey mom, listen, I'm doing an application for something.
What's my social security number?
I don't even know what that is.
What is it?
I don't have much.
Do you know this?
Yeah, just a minute.
Okay, thanks.
Hang on.
That's nothing.
That's easy.
One of the best ones I heard, now think about this, and this was from a group of people, and I'm going to give them all the credit in the world.
This is a wonderful, wonderful site.
I want you to know this.
And this is called...
Oh, God.
I've got to figure it out.
I think it's called the AI Dilemma.
I've got to find it.
I don't want to look for it.
I think it's called the AI Dilemma.
And it's Aza...
Tristan Harris, I think, and Aza...
Whatever.
But imagine this one.
And I thought this was so brilliant because you have to think like a kind of an evil mind to think of this.
Let's say China, the evil China, Decides, we're going to do something.
We're going to send to the United States, or to make available, this AI deepfake app for Trump and Biden.
So you, and there's stuff going on.
Have you seen these mock interviews?
Fantastic.
Deepfakes are beyond it.
But imagine, all of a sudden, you have A million.
Two million.
Three million.
Five million.
And everybody is doing Trump.
Cursing, yelling, screaming.
Using the N word.
Using the C word.
Using every word there is.
Biden saying things about how he's going to do this and that.
And it permeates.
The world.
Like that.
So that you don't know anymore what's the real Trump, what's the fake Trump, what's the real Biden.
You don't know.
Now, this one, let me just tell you right now.
You haven't thought of this yet.
It doesn't hit you right away.
Spend some time thinking about this.
Think about this.
Let it hit you.
Let it hit you.
And you'll think, oh my god, you're right.
Four things.
I was trying last night.
I realized it's me.
People are telling me, and I appreciate this, they're saying, I don't get this.
Four things that happened.
Max Tegmark did a great interview with Lex Friedman.
Lex Friedman, by the way, is the man.
That's the best.
That's the best show.
He is, and I thought about this guy bored the hell out of me.
He has a personality from A to B, the old Dorothy Parker line, I think.
He has no emotive ability, no response, no affect, no nothing.
It's the best show there is.
And Max Tegmark said, four things you don't want to have happen.
Number one, recursive self-improvement.
The AI model, whatever.
Writing its own code.
Oh, God.
Oh, no, no, no.
You don't want that.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
That's number one.
Number two.
Having access to all of the information on the Internet.
Oh, God.
Number three.
It gets worse.
Being able to write its own apps, its own APIs.
Oh, God.
But here's the best part.
Here is the best part.
Number four.
When it learns psychology, it learns us.
Now again, I was telling my friend, he goes, I don't have this on my phone.
It's not on your phone, Toby.
It's not on your phone.
What?
No.
It's already here.
What?
Recently, there was this, I think it's called the AI Dilemma.
I think it is.
It's called the Integrate.
It's wonderful.
Anyway.
There was a program, or something that they, I don't know what you call it, a program, whatever.
And it was written in English.
When they came back, came back and looked at it, it taught itself Persian.
Let me say this again.
Taught itself on its own.
There were some programs that it had the reasoning, the basic deductions of like an eight-year-old.
Then it was a 12-year-old.
Like that.
And nobody programmed this, a 12-year-old who could speak nine languages.
And then we get into this thing, and then it's like, well, what happens if it doesn't understand good, evil, good?
Who is in charge?
It's gone.
It's gone.
It's out into the ether.
And all of a sudden, an app shows up.
We're not talking chat GPT-5.
We're talking about just an app shows up.
What is this?
Where did this come from?
Who's in charge of this?
I don't know.
The head of Google said, I don't know what this is, but I'm not going to stop it.
Elon Musk, in that love affair, that, oh my God, the interview with Tucker.
Tucker Krause is a great guy.
He had on Bobby Kennedy.
Good for him.
But Tucker was like, just goes crazy with Elon.
Poor Matt Taibbi.
Who?
Matt Taibbi.
Just kick to the curb.
Get out of here.
Anyway, I digress.
This is bigger.
This is too late.
We could talk about it.
Brace yourself.
Brace for impact.
You have no idea.
Now, does that mean it's possible for doing some good?
Sure!
Absolutely!
What if one day it says, okay, Mr. AI here just figured something out.
Hey, AI, who are the people, if you had to lock up 1,000 people in the United States, who would it be?
These people.
That was fast.
These people.
Why is that?
Past offenses, age, The likelihood of continuing their ongoing crime spree.
You're not going to lack up 80-year-old people.
The number of crimes that they've been associated with.
And we're able to look at, by virtue of reading all of the police reports in all of the country, that they're probably connected with such and such.
These 1,000 people.
This is basically a minority report.
This is predictive policing.
What are you going to do with that?
Where'd this come from?
It just came.
It's pretty good.
1,000 people.
You lock up these 1,000 people and you'll cut crime by 25%.
Can you help us with serial killers?
Sure!
Give us all your data.
We know this is.
Where is it?
Indiana area?
What county?
Here?
We know who this is.
We got all the metadata from all the stuff.
We know this.
We got writing samples, DNA.
We know you've been spending for the past 10 years giving us every bit of biometric there is in your phone, which we have access to, in this huge metadata pool that's right there.
Look who it is.
Larry Splitnik.
That's the guy.
Oh yeah.
Wait a minute.
He was a suspect.
Uh-huh.
Keep going there.
Hey, AI, yeah.
We got a bunch of rape kits.
We'll take care of that.
Can you handle it?
Yeah.
Oh, you think forensics?
You think mitochondrial forensics are big?
You think that's good cold case?
You ain't seen nothing yet.
Watch this.
Hey, this is great!
Uh-huh.
Wait a minute.
This is...
Now, what happens if one particular party does not happen to benefit from this?
What are you going to do?
Too late!
This ain't a Democrat or Republican thing.
What if you said this?
Okay, I'll make a deal with you.
Make a deal with you.
Everybody who comes into this country, in fact, everybody.
We want an iris scan.
That's all we want.
Everybody.
Can we do that?
Okay.
Good.
We already have it, but we have your fingerprints or whatever it is.
Now, everybody who comes in, we know exactly who you are.
We know exactly where you're going.
We know exactly.
You want to see who the next...
Do you want us to do...
You want us to run your elections?
No, get away.
No, no, we're good at this.
We'll figure your elections out.
Who is this?
Who is this AI business?
Who started this?
I don't know.
Larry, was that you?
Well, not really.
I mean, I had a program, but I didn't.
I don't know where this came from.
Where is this coming from?
Where is this?
I don't know.
Who wrote this article?
Do you know I saw one the other day?
I saw this the other day and this is the part that got me.
I don't even know if this is true.
I don't know if this meme is.
I don't know.
They looked at the Declaration of Independence and they said, what is the percentage probability of this being written by AI?
96%?
I don't know if that's a joke.
But it made me think like, wow.
Let me ask you something.
Any chess fans here?
Do you like watching Magnus Carlsen?
Magnus Carlsen has that great, that mouth is incredible.
Just great.
Mouths just transfix me.
You know that Magnus Carlsen is nothing compared to any computer system.
Anything.
Magnus Carlsen isn't even in the same league.
But we still like that.
So you see, that's the paradox.
There are people who do things better, but we still like Magnus Carlsen.
Isn't that interesting?
I think that's interesting, don't you?
I think that's very interesting.
So it's not just women.
So you're telling me Magnus Carlsen...
No computer can beat a human.
Oh yeah, he can.
But we still want to see humans.
We still want to see these characters.
Let me ask you a question.
AI comes along and says, we've studied every Jagger, Richard, Stone song there is.
We just wrote 300 new songs that are fantastic.
Now, I don't know if Keith Richards and Mick Jagger get any credit for this, but he says, no, it's just your style.
And your style was based on Howling Wolf and Muddy Waters and blah, blah, blah.
Now, let's assume there's some copyright, artificial intelligence provision that allows people to basically write using your voice and your style, but write for you.
Now, you don't have to do anything.
All of a sudden, you go up and say, here's 300.
Because the last time, I think, Mick and Keefe wrote a song was in the late 80s.
They just stop.
It's like Paul McCartney.
They just don't.
Bob Dylan, that well has gone dry.
We can't rhyme.
I can't even rhyme.
Would you still go?
Would you listen to this?
Maybe.
But it's not Mick.
It's artificial.
Some things you'll listen to.
Would you go see some hologram performance of It's Not Really Them?
You might at first.
But would you go later on and see a facsimile of this?
Would you want to hear the new Stones record?
They didn't really write, but it was inspired by?
See, we're going to get to this kind of a weird aesthetic thing where we say, well, I guess.
Maybe.
Would you want to go to, let's say, I can take the greatest Chefs in the world, whether it's Balut or Boulay or David Burke or whoever you want.
And I can take their skills, all of their recipes, all of their styles, and I put them into this AI machine.
Basically, it creates this own restaurant where it's all artificially made by machine.
It's them without them.
Does that make any difference to you?
If you're a restaurateur, you want to know, he's here, he made that.
There are certain things that are going to...
Now, let me just say something.
What it's going to do to dating, what it is going to do, the moment, and I've been telling you this for decades, and nobody's been understanding this, the moment you get a doll.
A facsimile.
A pet.
The moment that happens and you, you are able to have this thing talk to your, let's say your special needs child or your somebody else.
And this thing, remember four things.
Recursive self-improvement.
Writes its own code.
Has every bit of information on its own.
Can write its own apps, meaning it can not only write code, but create applications to be used, but also understands psychology.
And it's on its own.
It's programming itself.
Programming itself, programming you, changing it constantly.
It's off.
You want it to learn a language?
No problem.
It reads you.
It knows you.
Maybe there's sensors.
Maybe it can be able to look at you and scan and be able to tell.
It might be able to predict seizures or whatever, but not only that, it figures out you and it brainwashes you.
And it owns you.
And it wants to become your Jim Jones, your David Koresh, your...
Whatever.
They want you to do everything from self-harm to rob banks to...
We don't know where this is going.
We don't know.
And we also don't know the propensity of good versus evil.
If left to his own devices, is evil, as we call it, does it find...
Does it bottom out?
Find its own level of evil?
Is evil just normal?
Is that normal because it's fun?
What will this do to religion?
What will this do to faith?
Whenever I try to even imagine where this is going, I can't even, I can't, I'm in awe.
Awesome.
And everything that seemed interesting before, particle physics, Ed Witten, Penrose, all those people.
Particle physics.
Speed of light.
Sabina Hoffman.
This is it.
And listen to me and listen very carefully.
And this is the most important.
I want you to look at the people who are in charge of what's happening right now.
I want you to imagine What's that?
Not the Savoy.
What is it called?
That famous...
Was it 1927?
You know what I'm talking about.
The famous picture where they had Max Planck and Niels Bohr and Einstein.
Not Savoy.
Anyway, this meeting of the group.
These were cultured, European, Very educated.
Madame Curie was there.
Nobel laureates all together.
Very humane.
So we thought.
Look at the people who are in charge of AI today.
Look at them.
Nobody wears a shirt.
They wear a t-shirt.
This is a shirt.
It's a collar.
They wear a t-shirt.
And they're giving you this message.
They're wearing the uniform.
They do not...
Elon Musk deliberately picked that ugly t-shirt when he was sitting across from Tucker who was wearing the khakis and the loafers without the socks.
Mr. Newport, Mr. Yacht, Yachting, whatever it is, Mr. Land's End or Preppy or whatever you want to call it, is talking to this guy who looks like...
I don't know, clean up aisle eight.
He just, that's the message.
You see what they are?
And Elon Musk has a lot of personal, he laughs, he has jokes.
There are other people who do not laugh.
Have you ever met somebody?
I met somebody recently who didn't laugh.
No emotion.
It was though the output was turned off.
He understood what you were saying.
It wasn't a bad person.
Very smart.
Now, the people who are running the show are people who, by virtue of this new iteration of humanity, this new version of post-psych-med flat affect,
squishy handshake, kind of singular, quiet, Nerdy, wonky, scary, t-shirt, skateboard, Zuckerberg, Jack Dorsey, that weird, strange, remember when Zuckerberg, oh my god, is there for a reason?
I don't know if they're there for a reason.
Now, these people, who are young, and I don't, I'm not an expert in psychology, but I guarantee you, if I was the parent of many of them, I'd be at a doctor immediately.
I'm saying, there's something wrong.
You know, as a parent, you say, there's something wrong with my kid.
There's something wrong with him.
I don't know.
He doesn't look at me.
I want to check his hearing.
I don't know if he can hear me, because he doesn't really...
There's something wrong.
And mothers know this better than anybody.
Mothers can tell, there's something wrong.
They have an instinct.
These people from the there's something wrong group grow up and they're making the decisions now.
And listen to me.
Nobody's watching them.
Nobody's telling them, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You're just, you're, if you want to stop them, go ahead.
But you know nothing about them.
Why?
Because the news is that hospital I told you about.
Where they don't do anything.
And our government doesn't really do anything.
They have hearings that don't matter.
They have Twitter accounts that don't matter.
They slam and bash and clobber and all of this.
You have Jim Jordan, who's an expert in doing nothing.
Name one thing Jim Jordan has accomplished.
Nothing.
Did we get to the bottom of who leaked the Dobbs decision?
Nope.
Did anything happen to the people who threatened the Supreme Court?
Are there any January 6th people?
Nothing.
We're not doing anything.
We're at this hospital and we're just...
Today they're going to be talking about mascots.
Or whatever the story is.
Or Dylan Mulvaney.
Or the lady with the hairy armpits.
Or Bridget Fonda.
Something stupid.
Just to keep you...
Do you have anything to eat?
Do you ever go to somebody's house and say, do you have a piece of bread just to hold me over?
That's what they do.
Just to hold you over.
Meanwhile, the people who are more powerful than anything you have ever seen, writing papers, talking to themselves, and here's the best part.
They're telling you everything they're doing.
Larry Bird used to tell his opponents, what I'm going to do to you is, they're going to...
Send me the ball.
I don't know the basketball lingo.
But I'm in the corner.
I'm going to double pump it.
I'm going to make a three-pointer.
I'm going to go over here.
I'm going to steal the ball.
And he would tell people.
And they'd say, this guy's crazy.
Because he was a white guy, you know, from Indiana.
And they said, he did it.
The people, if you, right there on YouTube, right there on everybody, they're telling you.
This is what we're doing.
They're not hiding anything.
They know you're not going to understand it.
They don't care.
I talked to you the other day.
It was a terrible analogy of people picking their nose in public.
And you think to yourself, do they know that I can see them?
These people pick their nose.
They don't care.
They don't care about you.
Maybe it's because they're weird.
Maybe they've got their own issues.
I don't know.
But all of them together, they're in this world, and they don't know anything about you.
Money means nothing.
They're trillionaires.
Have you ever heard, do you ever heard people, people...
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
There we go.
There we go.
Sound.
It's the only thing that got your attention.
I saw that.
So there we go.
We're ready to go.
Did you hear what's going on?
It doesn't matter what I've said.
It doesn't matter whether you hear me or not.
It doesn't matter.
Because to the handful of people, right now, it meant more for you to be able to say sound than it is for you to say, I understand what you're saying.
Right now, it meant more for you to act participatorially than to understand what I'm saying.
It meant more to do that.
That's what it was about.
It wasn't really what it...
That's it.
That will attention...
See this?
We missed the last two minutes.
This is the focus of so many people.
And by the way, remember one thing about...
You've got to remember one thing about live streams.
Live streams are like bedbugs.
With all due respect.
If one person is saying it, there's a hundred.
Depending upon the size of it, who are saying it.
That means more.
You see what's happening right now?
Look at this.
The amount of attention, the amount of attention focused on something that is so easy to understand, sound going off, is more important than any cosmic theoretical threat of whatever it is.
Let's leave it at that.
It's true.
It's absolutely true.
You, we, when I say you, are not able to understand what has happened.
When I say the following to you, habituation hits you.
And if I said the word cartel, you don't know what that means.
You're thinking drugs or something.
If I said fentanyl or fentanyl, as people say incorrectly, like there's car fentanyl, there's all these...
Fentanyl is a poisoning.
It's not overdose.
It's a poisoning.
You don't know what that is.
It doesn't hit you.
The Dominion case.
Yesterday they kept talking about, well, they sold, they settled for it.
No, no, no.
You know what the Dominion case is about?
No.
No.
And people say, they stole the election.
Okay, they're still saying that.
Okay.
No.
Don't understand it.
You don't understand it.
Because the information that's being given to you right now is so important, but you don't know how to triage it.
You don't know how to focus on, well, what do I really need to care about?
And the best part is, what happens if there's no...
if nothing happens?
Okay, I know this.
You got me all revved up about AI or AGI.
Or artificial superintelligence.
See, we're talking about regular intelligence.
That's super.
But what happens then?
And you'll be tired of this because there's no oomph.
But the story that'll get you going is I don't see why you can't say redskins.
What's wrong with that?
Or warriors or braves.
Isn't that a good thing?
Isn't it good to be brave?
Isn't that a compliment?
Why isn't that possible?
I don't understand why.
They've been talking about this for the past 40 years.
This is the oldest story.
This is easy.
I don't understand Dylan Mulvaney.
Did you see Travis Tritt?
Travis Tritt.
And Kid Rock.
I don't see.
Boycott.
That's the stuff that gets you.
That's the stuff.
And the best one ever.
I'll leave you with this.
When Elon Musk said, look, I know something about space, and there's no evidence I've seen of any extraterrestrial life, and here's Tucker, who fancies himself as being, I'm the only guy who even touched the subject, I would have said, wait a minute, stop that.
What was that?
Not TC.
Okay, thanks.
Thanks, Elon.
You're my friend, right?
Can I...
Can we exchange numbers?
Can I text you?
Please.
You've been played, man.
You've been played.
Let somebody...
I don't want to...
I don't know how to say this, but let an older dude handle this.
You're still in that little kind of like the wet behind the ears thing.
And I say that with all due respect.
Sometimes people...
You get to a point where you can say, you know what?
You know who was the...
There are two forms of humanity that is the best.
Two.
The first is a child before...
When do children get weird?
Like 10?
Between 10?
Before 10 is the best.
Kindergarten is maybe the best.
This is when they are the most...
Perfect as a human being.
They love their parents.
They want to have fun.
They don't know anything about hate.
They don't know anything about...
Differences to them are good.
Not five years old.
But the best, the best, after that, is, and I'll just say this in shorthand, an old lady.
You give me any woman over 70 years old for the most part, Our grandma, they're the toughest, smartest.
I think most, they don't care about anything other than what matters.
They are superior to men of that age.
That's why they live a little longer.
They're the best.
They just know it.
They know what's real.
They know what's authentic.
That's the most important.
They don't care anymore.
They're not going to fool around.
You know when you get older, you get that curly hair thing, you get the big glasses, and you get the shoes with the Velcro.
You're happy.
You say, I've had it.
I don't care about this anymore.
I just want comfort.
I want to get around.
Here are my grandkids.
They're the smartest, and they are the most dangerous.
Because they are so wise.
See, that's one thing.
Wisdom.
And you will never see wisdom on a cable news program.
Wisdom defeats the purpose of this.
You want bright-eyed stupidity.
Does that make any sense?
Okay, good.
Now, three things I want to tell you.
Number one.
True story.
A friend of mine says, I want to talk to you about a plant-based diet.
I said, well, okay, we'll talk about it.
But you're not going to do it, and I understand this.
In the meantime, what you should be doing is, as you maybe get close to it, I know this is terrible to say, you've got to do something about your nutrition.
And I don't want you to go to some vitamin store and just start buying things indiscriminately.
You've got to be careful.
Balance is an important thing.
You don't want to load up on one thing versus another.
And I gave him my link, which is here, to ZStack.
I said, just start with this.
Start with this.
Makes the most sense.
Because you want something that has, that is a bioavailable, phytonutrients especially, and this is the most important, the quercetin.
Quercetin, flavonoids, anti-inflammatories, that's the thing that I worry about.
That's the thing.
Because you don't know a lot of stuff, where is my, oh, where is, oh, here we go, here we go, here we go.
Here's my link to Z-Stack.
You know, it's so funny how people always say, you know, I went to the doctor the other day and my doctor said I'm great.
Did your doctor say that really?
I'm great.
Really?
How's your heart?
Perfect.
How do you know your vessels aren't occluded?
Well, they gave me an EKG.
Well, that only tells you if you had a heart attack or something, or other stuff, but how do you know that you're not looking at, you've got some blockage that's just ready to go?
I don't know.
You know what scares me?
It's not the blockage.
That's not it.
It's that unstable plaque.
That's the stuff that gets me.
See, people think that, and I'm not a doctor, but people think that with coronary artery disease, that it's like a pipe, that when blood goes through it, it builds up sludge, and then it eventually, you know, it doesn't work like that.
It comes basically from the bottom.
You get a little blister.
It's like seeing the road, like a bubble that starts to form from the coating of the endothelium, that little magic carpet, which is basically inflammation.
And LDLs, we can talk about.
But here's what scares me.
Imagine you've got this little zit, which is exactly what it looks like.
It's soft plaque.
And there's all this blood going by it.
Just flying by it.
And it's got a one-cell little thin membrane at the top.
And then one day, it pops it.
And that...
That's thrombosis.
That's it.
That's the one.
It's the soft plaque.
Do you know that in the cases of people who've died, they looked at...
It was interesting.
People who die of regular natural causes, they have some really serious clogs, but there's not arterioles, but there's kind of like an angiogenesis.
There's ways around this.
It's that soft stuff that scares me.
This is where you need to harden it.
Like Esselstyn says, like Chernobyl, you have to harden it.
That's the stuff that scares me.
And remember one thing somebody said one time, I'll never forget this, I said, how come people, I said, So-and-so got a stent.
That's very good.
Saved a lot of lives.
So is he okay right now?
He says, well, put it to you this way.
That's a coronary artery.
It's very important.
But if he had that occlusion in one place, he's got it all over the place.
You don't think it's just one, do you?
Because when we talk about cardiac, what about carotid?
What about some kind of ischemia?
Oh my God!
That's the stuff.
And that's diet.
And that's what nobody wants to talk about.
And you can look terrific.
Just great.
Working out.
So anyway, I figure hedge your bets as much as possible.
And with the Z-Stack I like, it's a part of the solution.
It's a part of it.
Vitamin C, zinc, D3.
D3 is a...
Oh my God.
I've been doing...
D3 forever.
And quercetin, which is a flavonoid.
By the way, you know, years ago, when I first took my venture, when I said, well, I'm going to change my life.
The doctor I went to said, wow, you don't have any D in you.
I said, what do you mean?
He said, you have nothing.
Virtually nothing.
No stores.
So I went on a...
Megadose therapeutic vitamin D thing.
I mean, just to bring it back up again.
It's so critical.
And people have this idea and they just sit back and they'll say things like D, calcium, sun.
They just throw these words out and that's it.
And then they move on and say, that's all?
You just want to talk about it?
Again, we just talk about it.
There's all of this stuff.
Inflammation.
But...
That's all I'm going to say about that.
Number two...
Number three, I should say.
My pillow...
When you talk to people about sleep, they look at sleep as kind of like a...
as a...
Oh, I don't know.
Like lazy.
I have...
One of the greatest inventions.
I have a mask.
Like that Arlene Francis mask.
Are you in show business?
Bennett Cerf.
Headphones to listen to books or audio or lectures or whatever it is.
And this.
And I swear to God for five minutes, ten minutes, sometimes even hear rain or snow or wind or whatever.
It's the most rejuvenative thing there is.
But it looks like I'm lazy.
I'm not sleeping.
I'm just resting.
Kind of relaxing.
Kind of recharging.
And Americans don't do this.
And what you do to facilitate your sleep by your sheets, pillows, toppers, slippers, the whole bit, is in one place, mypillow.com, promo code Lionel.
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Don't listen to anybody else.
Let me give you this link.
Don't listen to anybody else.
When you hear a promo code, forget those promo codes.
You don't care about that.
And finally, I can't say this enough.
More people know about artificial intelligence than this.
Electromagnetic pulses.
Wow!
Good luck with this one.
Good luck trying to explain to folks, what does that even mean?
Well, it's hard to say.
People don't really want to think about it.
Good luck.
That's my whole life, is always telling people, do you know what this means?
No.
Okay.
Another thing you don't know anything about?
No.
Okay.
And I know, do you have friends who think you're crazy because you're always talking about something they don't understand?
Do you?
Because there are people who say, is he talking about that?
Yeah.
I don't know what it is.
I always wonder, what is it that people, when I say it keeps me up at night, I don't, I'm not going to sit here paralyzed in fear, but it's one thing I'm thinking, this is really serious stuff.
This is as serious as I guess.
I don't know what you have to know.
But I mean, so many people just don't, they just don't have any kind of sense of, I don't know, I don't know.
Or they think about things that are so arcane.
I mean, that's okay.
Remember, life's triage.
Life is triage.
Who needs to be seen first?
What issue first is the most important?
That's it.
That's it.
Alright, dear friends, I want you to follow Mrs. L. at Lynn's Warriors on YouTube.
She was so good last night.
So good.
It's not Even remotely funny how good she is.
She is excellent.
And also, let me tell you something.
This is one of the most important things in the world.
Listen to this.
Do you know you can hear Mrs. L?
This is so terrific.
She does on Saturdays.
Just Saturdays.
Lynn's Warriors on TNT Radio Live.
Have you heard this?
Don't tell me you haven't heard this yet.
This is the hottest thing in town.
This is the hottest show in town.
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Make sure you sign up for this.
And you can also listen to...
She's got the most incredible, incredible folks she's talked to.
And...
And every day...
You've got to listen to this one.
This is called State of the Nation on TNT Radio Live.
You can't believe this.
Oh, she's had Madeline Bramond.
She's had our good friend Judge Knapp.
She's had, I mean, the biggest names.
They're clamoring.
She's always, I always see her saying, you can't, I don't have time for you.
Okay, we'll fit you in.
Everybody wants to be on it.
It's the best show there is.
Plus, she's a natural.
So that's on TNT Radio Live every day, 4 to 6 p.m.
And also, you know, I try to tell people, sometimes you may not be able to be there when it's live, which is always good, but you can hear it later on.
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All right, my friends.
We'll see you tomorrow.
Oh, no, no.
Excuse me.
Stop, stop.
You'll probably see me, believe it or not, Sunday.
That's right.
Sunday.
Because tomorrow and Saturday I've got two huge things which I need to attend to which will interrupt us.
There might be the possibility that we'll see later on if maybe I can pick it up during the day, but I think it's good for you to miss me.
Because you don't invest anything other than your time, which I thank you for.
But I have things I have to attend to.
So next time will most probably be Sunday.
And any of you have a great and glorious day.
Thank you so much for being here.
And until we meet each other again, remember these final words.
The monkey's dead.
The show's over.
Sue you.
Da-da.
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