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Dec. 14, 2022 - Lionel Nation
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A Lawyer Explains: Defining Exactly What Marriage Is Legally
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I want to tell you a story.
Years ago when I was in college, college, I was in an organic chemistry class.
Loved organic chemistry.
Loved it.
And on one of the first days, this wonderful professor, one of the greatest I've ever had, really had a tremendous effect on me.
He was kind of a renaissance guy and really interested in a lot of things.
Anyway, he came in one day.
Now, we're in an inorganic.
Now, we've had regular inorganic and haven't done p-chem, but new arm stuff.
By the way, chemistry is another example of how something that you may not think at the time affects your life had a tremendous impact.
We used to talk about cis-trans isomers.
Stereochemistry, cis-trans isomers.
Level rotatory, dextrorotatory, cis-trans.
Anybody remember that?
Of course not.
So this professor came in and said, before we begin, what is an atom?
What is a molecule?
What is a compound?
What is a chemical?
What is a...
And then he went through this whole thing.
And we were finding ourselves using terms that we thought we knew, but we really couldn't explain.
This is why I'm always going to the dictionary to look up the way words, what does a word really mean?
What's the difference between this and that?
To hate and loathe, abhor, detest.
Is there a sliding scale?
And I love this because we know in general how to use it, but you always have to ask the question, how do you know what you know?
How do you know what you know and what do you know?
It's also this notion of epistemology and all these other aspects, too.
So what are these things?
So yesterday, everybody's going crazy on the worthless GOP right because they are a placebo.
I've come to the recognition that the GOP is a placebo.
It's a sugar pill.
It's meant to create not a controlled opposition, but the appearance of an opposition.
But everybody's going crazy over the Defense of Marriage Act.
And what does the GOP do?
Nothing.
They just go on TV.
Tucker will put together a real spiffy, great, you know, thing.
Isn't this great?
And then you can send it.
It's just great.
I'm going to send this to you.
Oh, by the way, I want to say one of our members of the nation sent me a wonderful Explanation of FTX.
And I thought, oh God, another one of these videos.
It was actually very good.
Anyway.
But, Tucker, hey, they got drag queens and this and that and oh my God.
Anything happening because of it?
No.
Is there any Republican pushback?
No.
Well, what are the Republicans doing?
Nothing.
Nothing.
They're doing, you know, they have tweets and platforms and maybe Bannon might say something or maybe Don Jr. might tweet something.
Who knows?
Maybe we'll dust off.
Maybe Ann Coulter will weigh in.
Oh, that means something.
Remember Michelle Malkin?
What happened to her?
Just...
Gone.
Maybe Candace Owens will come and grace the portals.
Maybe CPAC will talk about it.
See, the Republicans, they just talk about stuff.
But the Democrats, they get it done.
And they're all standing around there signing this and driving you crazy and they've got Performer here and Cindy Lauper.
The Republicans are crazy.
Who in the hell is Cindy Lauper?
Who is she?
She's at the White House.
What are you doing?
Last guy who was in the White House was a Republican.
You didn't let him do anything.
Because you were too busy saying, well, maybe he's, I don't know, his tweets.
Democrats are loyal.
They stick together.
You got Nancy Pelosi, you got Jerry Nadler, you got this one, you got AOC.
They're all together.
They may not like each other.
They may not, but they are solid.
And the Republicans don't have that.
I've got to tell you this story.
Let me tell you what the Republicans are.
There's a term.
It's rather crude.
And the first part of it is star.
And that's all I'm going to say.
It deals with people who are...
Praying, braying, sycophantic lickspittles and bootlickers when it comes to celebrities.
Well now, it's a Christmas party season, so the Republicans are getting together and they have parties!
Oh, the celebrities!
Look, is that Don Jr.?
Oh my God!
Can I get a picture of you?
That's it!
Oh, I'm just throwing names up.
But I've seen these people and I'm thinking...
You think this is a celebrity?
No, seriously, is this?
What has he done?
What has he done?
I'll tell you what Joe Biden's done.
He's done a lot.
You may not like it.
Kamala Harris?
Jerry Nadler?
Oh my God.
Two impeachments?
A score of...
Oh my God.
And now the Defense of Marriage Act?
They're cranking stuff out.
What are you doing?
Nothing.
But I digress.
With all this talk about marriage, I just did a video.
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And the reason why is because we find ourselves in a position of having to I don't know what the word is.
We always have to Kind of watch what we say.
Mrs. L was giving a speech one time, just an introductory thing, during one of these various movements.
And I'm putting a link up there.
And they have these, how did we say this?
This woman came up to Mrs. L and said, listen, if you don't mind, could you not scare them?
Now, this was a conservative organization.
Don't scare them.
Don't scare them.
Okay?
This is the way people are.
Because the Republicans are going to just...
They don't want to make any waves.
The Democrats, hats off to them.
Hats off.
Organizational, they've got it all covered.
DOJ, FBI, courts, administrative, media, culture, unbelievable.
And what do the Republicans have?
Well, they had a guy who couldn't read his book in libraries.
Okay, what else?
Well...
We'll play Lee Greenwood.
Okay.
What else?
Nothing really.
Have you picked the Speaker of the House?
Well, we're still kind of getting around to who the leadership...
Uh-huh.
Okay.
Okay.
Do you have a GOP leader yet?
Is it going to be Harmeet Dillon?
Is it going to be Ronald McDaniel?
Is it Mike Lindell?
Who is it?
Well, we're still...
Hey, but is that Don Jr.?
Is that Eric?
Oh, can I get a picture?
That's the GOP.
Worthless.
Worthless.
I'm 64 years old.
I've been around for a long time.
I've met more people and Mrs. L probably, definitely more than I have.
In the entertainment business, Broadway, movies.
I've been in the biz for No, no, no. 35 years, kind of professional talk radio, whatever, since I first started on the weekend.
I've met a slew of people.
Let me tell you something.
Out of everybody I've ever met, there are very few people that I ever was...
Boy, I'm glad I met him.
Especially, don't ever meet your heroes.
I am not impressed with celebrities.
I am not impressed.
They do nothing for me.
Left, right, sports, movies, doesn't matter.
I'm an adult.
Let them meet me.
I'm more important than they are.
I'm doing it.
I'm a philosopher king.
I just named myself that, by the way.
I don't care about this.
I am not a star like these people, and I just don't care about them.
I do not care about them.
They are Absolutely, this cult of personality is something that I don't understand.
I want to get things done.
I want to leave a mark.
I want to change things.
I want to wake people up.
I want to give them a way to think.
A new way to look at things.
Like new glasses.
Like, hey, I can see better.
Hey, it's bright.
Oh, I never saw it that way.
That's what I want to do.
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I wouldn't bring a kid.
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I don't know if they're ready to hear us talk about this.
But in terms of everything that I say, it could be on TV.
Absolutely.
It could be on any TV show.
So it's not that, but the subject matter will make you stay up at night.
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That's January 14th.
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I don't know if people want to do that.
To meet like-minded people.
You know, because how many times do you have to go somewhere and you're going to say, I don't know if I want to...
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I said something.
They didn't like what I had to say.
That was a good sign.
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So as I've been saying before, what is marriage?
Very quickly, what is marriage?
In one word or two, give me what marriage is.
What is marriage?
Marriage is a, and by the way, officially, I have been an advocate.
Of same-sex marriage, if people want, since the beginning of my awareness.
I have never, ever understood why marriage cannot and should not include adults, consenting adults, of different genders, the same gender.
I have known some of the best couples ever.
Completely devoted to each other, who happened to be gay.
And to think that in the old days, they couldn't enjoy the legal ramifications of marriage, which is what I go into later on, because there is the religious, there's the emotional, the romantic, but there's also the legal.
So what is it?
And people love to argue about marriage as hell.
The wrong marriage is risky business, somebody writes.
Good morning, Susanna.
By the way, love the video, which I told you.
Excellent on FTX.
Thank you.
Some of these videos, like two kids talking, the deep state.
Okay, thank you very much.
No, you've got to watch this.
That's okay.
But that was very good.
What is marriage?
You have no idea how many times...
Somebody brings up, by the way, Sodom.
Do you know why Sodom and Gomorrah were...
Why God was so angry?
Does anybody know?
Let me just stop right now.
People talk about Sodom and Gomorrah.
They always refer to that.
You know, Lot's wife and the salt and the pillar of salt.
Do you know why God was the most angry?
Anybody have a clue?
No, you don't.
Why was God angry?
Why was God furious?
Furious!
With the people of Sodom and Gomorrah.
Why?
Thank you.
You don't know.
He was furious of the way they treated the guests.
Remember when they said, bring out your guests so that we can know them.
These were the angels who came to visit.
And going back to the See, this someone writes, they didn't obey him.
No.
In hospitality, there we go.
Believe it or not, people will never say, I...
I...
Isn't it because they were...
Men weren't...
Nope.
Isn't it because they were...
They were engaging in activities that were...
Nope.
Nope.
Look at what people do.
They just think they know things.
In fact, in the Middle East, to this day, to this day, which is very important, you will, whenever you go in Israel, twice we were there for visiting folks and the like.
We were there.
And there was a group of folks who were very, very nice to us.
Very, very nice.
And very, very, very...
But every place we went, every place we went, and I mean every place, every business, every government office, anybody that we talked to, anybody, always prepared for us drinks, cookies, coffee.
Absolutely.
So there's this thing about hospitality.
It's ingrained.
Now, as you know, people do not know anything about this story.
And they will argue, well, it depends upon what Bible someone writes.
No, it doesn't.
No, it doesn't.
Admit it.
Say to yourself, I have no idea what I'm talking about.
I fancy myself a scholar, but I'm probably not.
And I've never looked, and I frankly haven't cared, and that sort of thing.
But anyway, going back to what I said.
Did God ever say anything?
Is there anything that we know about men and women?
Nope.
You can argue about this.
I'm not going to bring in any kind of religion.
But what I'm going to do is to tell you about the idea of what marriage is.
Marriage is the union of two people in a legal configuration that no one else knows.
No other situation.
Merit, tenancy by the entirety.
Pertu et non per mi, for the whole and not the moiety, not for the portion.
This unique configuration of humans.
The General Accounting Office reports that maybe there might be about 1,600 or so individual rights.
And privileges and procedures and benefits that married couples can enjoy that nobody else can.
Nobody.
How do you like that?
Huh?
How do you like that?
Ask somebody who's getting married.
Well, guess what?
Marlene and Dave are engaged.
Wonderful!
Hey, Dave.
Marlene, congratulations.
By the way, kids, can you tell me what marriage is?
Um...
Well, no, no, no, no.
Legally.
What can you not create legally?
Either through a civil union or some type of domestic partnership or something.
What can you not do that only marriage can do?
Why are you getting married legally?
Why?
They have no idea.
Well, because I...
Why?
Don't say legitimacy.
That doesn't make any sense because if you're the father or the mother, you don't have to be married to the other spouse.
Your child takes under your will as your kid.
You can say whatever you want.
There may be something later on from a spousal point of view in terms of support, which is a little different, but not really.
So that's out of the way.
Well, what is it?
And what people will not say is this, and I'm going to say it for you.
Some people in particular, most women, and I'm sorry, at a certain age, when people are young, it is a woman's desire.
There are men, certainly, who love it.
Marriage is a wonderful thing.
I'm a happily married man, deliriously happy.
There's no doubt about that.
I am never going to say it's a wonderful institution if it's the right person.
If it's the right person.
It's not marriage.
It's the right person.
If you marry somebody who either you don't know, shouldn't have married, or if somebody changes on you or something goes wrong...
It's not marriage's fault.
It's your fault.
Or the problem, whatever it is.
So it's not the institution.
That's like saying, is parenthood a good thing?
Not if you've got a bum kid.
Is pet ownership a good thing?
Not if you've got the wrong pet.
Some yammering, squawking, screeching thing that never learns how to use the pad.
But that's not pet.
Ownership.
What about driving?
Is driving fun?
Not if you go through a windshield.
Not if you're burned beyond recognition.
There's some kind of head-on collision.
Wait a minute.
That's not about driving.
Well, could be.
So people love to make fun of marriage.
Marriage is wonderful.
But what people don't want to tell you is this.
Especially women.
I'm sorry.
I'm going to tell you something which you don't want to hear, but I'm going to tell you.
A lot of people are saying, listen.
I talk to all my girlfriends and I'm telling you right now, I'm going to get this guy and he ain't going to be able to leave.
I want what's mine.
I want this.
I want a ring.
I want that.
And I don't want anything, even though I don't understand it, legally or contractually.
He ain't going to leave.
And if he does, If he thinks he's going to dump me, there's going to be hell to pay.
Because I've got my friends, and I'm not going to tell them, they got married, and this one got married, and I'm going to get married.
And I want the whole kit and caboodle, the whole thing, the whole nine yards, even though I can't explain what it is.
You got it?
That's the way it's going to be.
And that's exactly what's happening.
Here's the worst part.
Nothing wrong with that.
Because I'll explain to you in a moment why that's critical.
The worst part about this is how people in the back of their minds say, well, you know, they're going to tell me you promised forever and ever to hold.
Yeah, well.
But listen, we know and you know and I know there's no fault of yours.
Nobody really, nobody really has to stay forever.
You know, there's a way out.
Everybody's getting a divorce.
Everybody's getting a divorce.
There's no such thing as you can't get a divorce.
Well, you promised.
I don't think it's a good idea to force people to stay together.
That can be awful.
But do you think anybody seriously believes that when they swear unto God or the court or whoever it is, to have and hold, do you promise to take, well, until, you know, I mean, for the most part, yeah.
That's no-fault divorce.
No-fault did that.
And it should be that.
You shouldn't be stuck forever.
No!
But don't tell me you mean you're going to stay forever.
You don't!
You're saying it's a conditional thing.
I'm going to stay so long as nothing bad happens.
That's it.
Unlike parenting, most people are parents forever.
Now you can terminate parental rights.
You can give up your child for adoption.
You can do a lot of things.
That's...
It happens, but it's a pretty rare thing.
Now let me ask you this question.
When you go to a...
You get your driver's license.
Do you remember...
Who remembers the great days?
I went to a guy named Jack Baldwin years ago.
I was 16 years old.
I had my driver's license.
I mean, I was there.
I was there on my birthday.
My birthday.
Getting my license and I was going to drive and...
Did you ever take those great driver's ed classes where you saw those movies at the end?
Blood on the Highway.
There was this bad, bad color.
There were these...
Oh, it was a wonderful genre.
An euro.
An milieu.
An outré.
I'm using all my friends.
But it was a...
In fact, the Film Forum had a...
A documentary on these.
This guy who would drive around, he had a police scanner, and he would drive to accidents, sometimes getting there before the police.
If you ever showed up in an accident before somebody's there, before the cops are there, it's the eeriest thing.
I remember one time we were driving and these cars were collided and it was...
You know, steam, the usual sign.
And I said, are you okay?
And the one passenger was looking at me with a look.
I thought, oh, this is not good.
And I didn't pay.
I had to go to find a house.
Because we didn't have cell phones then.
And I had to stay and wait.
You know, they're coming and we're listening, you know.
I don't hear anything.
I'm at this scene.
There's nobody there.
But this one car, they were okay.
But everybody, something was, I don't remember what happened.
We were driving on our way to Philly recently.
There was a car turned over.
No cops were there.
It just happened.
It's weird.
Anyway.
They showed you these videos.
They showed you these movies.
They showed you these movies to show you this is what could go wrong.
You're young and you feel bulletproof and you feel invincible, but this could go wrong.
And that...
Reminded me, this is what we should have when kids and people, a lot of young people, go and get marriage licenses.
You have to at least attend a class.
And I suggest watching the one scene of...
What was her name?
From Fatal Attraction, not Forest.
What was her name?
Where she said, I will not be ignored.
Oh, you thought you were going to...
Have some dalliance while you were married?
No.
You've got to understand what divorce means.
You've got to understand what happens.
You have to go to the family court section.
Just go.
See this.
People need to see accidents.
They need to see what happens.
And here is the best part.
Friends of mine in the family law biz, After they made marriage legal in New York, he said, my business is going to double.
Because if you think that same-sex marriages aren't going to end in divorce either, you're out of your mind.
Out of your mind.
So it's one of those things that is important.
Marriage is a beautiful thing.
Did we need to have a Defense of Marriage Act?
Apparently not, because it was a law since the...
Obama administration, but if you want to, that's fine.
Guarantee it.
Sign it.
Nothing wrong with that.
Who was it?
Kamala Harris was talking about contraception.
I don't know about that.
That was a Griswold case.
Griswold in 65, I believe it was, Supreme Court.
William O. Douglas, who gave us the privacy doctrine.
Remember that?
The penumbra.
So, I don't know if...
They speak of certain things.
If they know what they're talking about, it doesn't really matter.
It doesn't really matter.
But marriage is still the biggest secret of town.
Nobody understands what it is.
They don't.
They think they do.
It's about love and commitment.
You can be in love.
You can have a commitment.
You don't need to have the state authorize it.
Why are you doing this?
They can't answer it.
Just like they can't answer biblical questions.
Sodom and Gomorrah.
They think they know.
They Sort of.
They understand where Sodom, you know, that, uh-huh, you know.
I told somebody one time, I said, Gomorrah.
I said, that's where gonorrhea comes from.
I just made it up.
Really?
Yeah, I kind of see that.
G-O-R-R.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Thank you so much.
By the way, it's funny listening to Cindy Law, but you can't tell me who I will marry, whom, who and whom.
Forget it.
Nobody cares about that anymore.
It's like the past tense of go.
I should have went there.
Ooh, not good.
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And I mean that.
I'm not just saying that.
But there's other things that are happening and other aspects, other considerations that we don't want to talk about here.
And also, this notion of mental health.
I'm always looking at mental health.
And the storyline, well, you can just go and see what you've missed.
That's the Private channel.
And today, if you are near, listen to this.
First time ever.
Mrs. L, I'm going to be a guest on her radio show at 3 p.m. Eastern Time on WVOX.
One of the last great terrestrial New York stations around.
A.M. from the genius of Bill O'Shaughnessy.
WVOX.
3 p.m.
I'm going to be there.
We're going to be taking calls today.
So we'd love to have you there.
WVOX.
Like Vox.
Populi.
The voice of the people.
So we're going to be talking about stuff that will blow people's minds.
Alright?
Okay.
Alright, my friends, have a great and a glorious day.
Thank you so much.
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Have a great, a glorious, and a beautiful day.
Don't ever change and mean that sincerely.
And until we meet again next time, see you tomorrow, same bad time, same bad channel, 9 a.m. Eastern Time, we always end with this valedictory, this denouement, this sayonara, this adios.
The monkey's dead, the show's over, sue you.
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