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Dec. 3, 2022 - Lionel Nation
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Kanye West v. Elon Musk

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Good day.
I've got a very simple question for you.
Very simple question.
What should not...
What should not be allowed on social media platforms?
Let's start off with this.
For those who are listening right now for the first time, those who are joining us, thank you for the first time.
Thank you for joining our morning briefing.
What should be that which is discontinued?
What should not be allowed?
Very simple question.
I want to hear from you.
Assume that I'm in charge of social media, whatever.
I'm letting you know.
I'm letting you know.
What is it?
Tell me.
I'll tell you.
Number one.
The obvious.
There should never be allowed on any social media platform CSAM, C-S-A-M, Child Sexual Abuse Material.
The reason is obvious.
A child cannot consent.
It is the depiction of a crime scene.
There is no literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
It violates every single thing that we have.
And it is to be verboten.
Somebody noted crime.
What is a crime?
Can a crime be?
If I were to show pictures of an armed robbery, would that violate the rules?
Is that a crime?
You see, you've got to be very particular, very specific.
That's number one.
Number two, anything that involves the, let's say, the violation of national security secrets, troop, be something where there's a clear and present danger of, let's say, American forces or troops or something that...
Is immediate.
What else?
Well, I Libel?
Slander?
What about that?
That's for the courts to decide.
Whenever there's a case, whenever New York Times is sued by William Westmoreland or anybody else for that matter, they don't shut down the New York Times because it was libel that was committed.
No.
Absolutely not.
Do you follow what I'm saying?
We're going to be talking about that.
We're going to be talking about this.
We're going to be talking about Kanye West and how Kanye West should be allowed to say anything.
Anything.
Same thing for Alex Jones.
Same thing for Ilhan Omar.
Same thing for AOC.
Same thing for Nancy Pelosi.
Same thing for everybody.
Everybody.
And the best way to expose lunacy is to expose it.
Everybody.
Kanye West is playing you like a champ or a chump.
He's going out of his way to see if he can become the next martyr.
Same thing goes for Alex Jones.
Same thing goes for whatever.
Say it!
So long as there is no child sexual abuse material, because that is something that is different.
Because right now, as we speak, there are parents and there are people trying to get their pictures and photos down from various platforms, and they can't.
You explain that one to me.
Explain that one.
I don't understand this.
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First, I believe in the following.
It's very simple.
If I'm Elon Musk, everybody speaks.
Everybody.
I may not like you.
You may be a jerk.
You may be an idiot.
You may be whatever.
People, they're missing the point.
Look at some of the logic here.
They're not addressing the idea, they're not addressing the issue of whether free speech should be limited.
They're talking about whether they like Kanye West or not.
They're missing the point.
This is again a decline, a complete removal of the notion of critical thinking.
I'm not talking about whether you like him.
I'm not talking about whether you like Alex Jones, or whether you like AOC, or whether you like Ilhan Omar, who has said that you were talking about anti-Semitic.
How about Ukrainian forces?
How about people from the Azov Battalion, the right sector?
How about people who are advocating that?
Put it on.
In 1982, look at my Twitter channel.
In 1982, on Crossfire, they had a Grand Cyclops or Grand...
Marshall or Grand Cyclops or I don't know.
With the Klan uniform on sitting next to whoever this guy was.
Remember Crossfire was terrific.
What was his name?
You know who I'm talking about.
They thought nothing of it.
They never told CNN to shut down.
They never banned CNN.
They never banned.
They had them on.
Geraldo Rivera had these people on.
Everybody did.
Phil Donahue.
You had on racist.
We had more freedom of speech with I was going to say Robert Downey Jr. with Morton Downey.
I don't understand this.
If you want to stop anti-Semitism, let an anti-Semite speak.
You let AOC speak.
She might not be that.
Ilhan Omar?
Rashida Tlaib?
Yasser Arafat?
I mean, go ahead.
We allow Mein Kampf.
We allow Mein Kampf in libraries.
Maybe not for kids, that's fine.
I don't mind a warning sign.
I don't even mind age appropriate.
China prevents TikTok for no more than 40 minutes a day per child.
I don't see any problem with that, do you?
I don't know.
Let me try this again.
Kanye West can say whatever he wants.
Go ahead and do it.
I don't care if it's about anybody.
If it's about Attila the Hun, so what?
When people were talking about...
The Azov Battalion, the rights sector, about Donbass, about these right-wing authoritarian hyper-nationalist parties.
And with such pins and needles, you can't even say these words because they may trigger some algorithm or something.
So be it!
Do it!
I don't understand this.
Remember the Anarchist Cookbook?
The Anarchist Cookbook was a book that showed you how to make bombs, how to kill, how to kidnap, how to detonate explosives.
It was used by terrorists.
Bob Novak was his name.
Thank you.
Do you remember this?
And the Supreme Court says, well, obviously, it's First Amendment.
You're going to ban Kanye West, but not that?
If somebody wants to give disinformation about COVID cancer, I heard somebody the other day, somebody sent me a video the other day, I swear to God, of a doctor, an MD, saying that plants will kill you.
And that the only diet to live is a keto diet and whatever.
Fine.
If you disagree with it, disagree with it.
Plants will kill you?
Put it on.
I don't care.
Go ahead.
Spiritualism?
People who believe in channeling?
I don't care.
If you don't like it, don't listen.
So what?
So what?
I don't understand this anymore.
Why are we doing this?
Elon Musk is playing these games.
Well, I tried.
What do you mean you tried?
Go ahead and let him say this.
Whatever.
It doesn't matter.
You're creating the forbidden fruit.
You're elevating him to this apotheosis, to this status of, well, he must be, they must want him to, he must be saying something right.
No!
Say it!
You think he knows anything about national socialism or anything?
Please!
He's a moron!
Let him speak!
It's the greatest.
Go ahead.
What do you know about this?
You want to have a debate?
Quit playing around with this.
I want to have debates.
Bring somebody who actually says, do you think, honestly, let me explain this.
Are you advocating national socialism?
Are you?
Let's speak up.
Go ahead.
Come on.
Come on.
What are you doing?
If you have a newsstand, a candy store, a magazine store, you put things out.
You're not advocating for the correctness of this.
Go ahead and say it.
Can't call somebody a denier or somebody who's a proponent of misinformation.
Quash them because what it's doing is they want you to mistake and confuse not liking with somebody with shutting them down.
We are not addressing this.
We are not getting to the facts of the matter of that which is critical.
We are not doing it.
Let me explain something to you.
Sam Binton, and this is why nobody really wants to do this.
I tried to hear, I said, okay, let me see, let me listen to, see if Tucker, by the way, they're the number one show on the number one cable news.
He starts off with this parody of Sam Binton, the bald, pated, nuclear spent fuel, this Whatever.
And it was just this low-hanging fruit mockery of Sam Binton.
This is as deep as it goes.
I think that's more offensive.
It's like, why are you doing this?
Because you can't avoid it.
Because it's snide, it's snarky, it's childish, it's catty, it's okay, come on, please.
We're on the verge of nuclear conflagration and you're making fun of somebody with a dress and the other guy who wants to put lavender whatever on his breast.
And then they stop.
I had to turn it off.
They stop, they bring in Adam Carolla, who's a moron.
I don't understand this.
Or maybe Portnoy.
What are you doing?
Maybe I'm from a different planet.
Maybe.
Maybe I don't belong here.
Why do I want to hear an idiot?
Just a base kind of a...
This is it?
Now let me explain something else to you which is very, very important.
Very, very, very critical.
The thing about Kanye West, the story that nobody's talking about, is where's your girlfriend, Candace Owens?
This one.
Is she going to find some other dupe, some other rube, to try to bail out hubby's parlay, or parlor, depending upon...
Is that it?
Is she explaining anything?
Your cadre, your coterie, your...
Legions of experts leave a lot to be desired.
And when Adam Carolla and this one, and another one, I can't listen to it, Jason Whitlock, please!
I can't stop.
I just turned it off.
Just give me John Mearsheimer.
Give me anybody.
Give me just the history of something.
Just bring me back.
You can feel the IQ points.
Dear God!
Adam Carolla.
What?
No!
Bring it up, Tucker.
Bring it up.
Make people smarter.
Yes, there's a bald-headed guy in a dress.
Come on, man.
It's too easy.
Go for the tough stuff.
Look at what's happening now.
Compare and contrast.
Russia and China.
How do we handle this?
Let's talk about where that's going.
Now Biden says, maybe we in Putin, maybe we should talk to Putin.
Go with that.
That's far more interesting.
But it's dry.
It's dry.
And another thing I'm going to ask you, why are people taking such delight in people being fired at CNN?
Do you think that's funny?
Do you think that means anything?
Do you think that's...
Why is it...
I heard, I tried yesterday, there's a real...
Talk radio hack.
I'm...
I was on hold, and I'm going to listen to this.
And he was thinking to like, oh, maybe Jim Acosta will be fired.
This is where you are?
You're almost 70 years old, if not beyond that.
And your worldview, your spectrum is laughing about maybe Jim Acosta being fired because you have reduced everything into this personal world?
Is that it?
Where are the adults in the world?
Where is it?
And it's not enough to do headline stuff.
We have to ask you to really dig deep and to think about this and let these experiences be learning.
Ask yourself, when should speech be limited?
Nobody's answering the question.
You've got to stand up and say, Elon, stop doing this.
You're acting as a proxy.
If Elon Musk says something stupid or friendies or whatever, so what?
If you're not going to shut down Elon Omar, don't shut him down.
Let me hear what he has to say.
Let me hear what he has to say.
If I didn't know better, I would think that one of the best ways to promote or to combat anti-Semitism is let a real Cretan come forward.
You want to stop racism?
Let's bring the Klan out.
Let's have some guys talk about their ways of white nation wearing a funny hat and acting like a damn fool.
That will do more to encourage enlightenment than anything else.
But they don't do it.
Because you are being acclimated to the idea that, well, if somebody says something wrong, we shut it down.
You can't say that.
Yes, you can say it.
Turn it off.
Have you ever heard of this situation?
What are you?
Well, I'm a third degree Grand Cyclops from the clan of whatever, yes, and I'm the...
I'm third in line.
You are?
Yes.
I'm a member of the clan, yes.
Well, I was watching, reading Twitter, and I heard somebody mention the Klan, and well, next thing you know, I'm in the Klan.
It was that easy.
I heard it, and I jumped in it.
It was it.
Had I not heard of the Klan, I...
Did you ever hear about...
Christian messages?
Yes, I did.
Did you become a devout Christian?
No.
So why did that influence not affect you, but the Klan thing did?
Well, I don't know.
It's hard to say.
You see, when I hear things, I just, well...
During the COVID...
You couldn't mention ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, whatever.
No, but somebody can tell you, no, eat meat all day long.
That's good for you.
And plants will kill you?
That's not disinformation.
Plants will kill you.
Now, let me just say this.
You can just listen to this stuff.
And it's interesting.
How about this?
Well, you know, butter is very good for you.
In fact, the French...
They eat butter all the time and they're the healthiest people in the world.
That's not true.
I don't want to ban that person.
Are you kidding?
Remember the flat earthers?
That's silly.
I don't want to ban them.
I learned about, I should say, was reminded of Eratosthenes when somebody confronted the flat earthers.
It was wonderful.
It was beautiful.
Thank you for that.
I wouldn't have known that.
I had no earthly idea.
How about Anton LaVey?
How about Satanism?
How can William Friedkin produce The Exorcist?
Is he not promoting what?
No!
Do you know that after that came out, the Catholic Church was inundated with requests for Exorcisms and the like.
It had a good effect.
As opposed to people running to be Satanists.
And even if they had, so what?
That's the way it goes.
There are channels on astrology that says, well, if you're born with feces rising, it's specious.
Let people say it.
Prove it wrong?
Let's have a debate.
I don't care.
So what?
I don't understand this.
But Kanye West?
No, no, no.
Have you seen people who, I've got to be careful how you say this, who are proponents of national socialism?
Have you seen these jackbooted stormtrooping Iron Cross.
Have you seen these folks?
Seriously.
Have you seen these folks?
Have you listened to what they say?
Please listen to what they have to say.
It would be wonderful.
It would be wonderful.
I don't think anybody's understood this one.
But when you put on folks Like this feller, Sam Brenton, who's the nuclear waste guru.
Now, I don't know about you, but I'm saying, put him on.
Oh, please!
Put him on!
And just let it run.
Don't, no, no, no, no.
Sit there and say, well...
What do you think about it?
And don't say anything.
You don't have to say anything.
You see, this is the best part.
And I'm sorry, Tucker misses the idea of...
It's like, don't bludgeon somebody with the obvious.
Take a different tack.
Try to promote it.
Try to say that nuclear is spent.
Just go through...
I'll give you an example.
Years ago...
There was this thing that happened.
It was Frank...
What was his name?
What the hell is his name?
Remember...
Jesus, my brain this morning.
You've got to help me.
I got up so early.
Honey, who's the one from Regis and Kelly, Kathie Lee, Gifford?
Frank Gifford.
Frank Gifford had this tryst at a hotel with a woman.
And they had the transcript of this event.
Okay?
It was something.
To make a long story short, as I was listening or reading this, it was the funniest thing I've ever read in my life.
It was superb.
It was superb.
Now, What was interesting to note about it was I could have made a big joke about it.
I could have laughed about it.
I could have been obvious like Tucker bludgeoning you with it.
Bludgeoning you.
But I read it straight.
Pardon the phrase.
I just read it.
Read the words.
Just read it.
It was The funniest thing you have ever heard, because it was straight, because it would be obvious to sit there and play music behind it.
No!
Let it go.
Just let it go.
There was a piece where Corinne Jean-Pierre Refer to the Nobel Prize.
The Nobel Prize.
Not the Nobel Prize, the Nobel.
Alfred Nobel.
And, of course, he bludgeoned the fact that she didn't know how to pronounce Nobel.
Why?
It's easy.
That's not the way to do it.
Either work around it.
You can cause more attention by pretending either to defend it, Or to say, now listen, don't laugh at this.
I know what you're thinking.
Just because somebody mistakes a word means most probably that you never heard the word ever pronounced correctly.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Certain things are just obvious.
You don't need to promote it.
But the thing that is the most important for you right now to understand is this notion of free speech.
Now, Fox is freaked out because they got the Dominion lawsuit so they can't say anything about that.
Nothing.
Where is Carrie Lake?
Whatever happened to her?
Whatever happened to her thing?
I don't know.
We've got people afraid to talk about election fraud.
Think about that one.
Can you think of anything more critical than that?
No.
How about Candace Owen?
How about somebody saying, Candace, come here, let's talk to you.
Did you vet?
Well, we're not going to allow him to...
Yeah, right.
Right.
She's claiming that they're going to prevent him from buying parts.
Listen, she's a...
Look, I don't have to tell you what this is, alright?
Again, I would never ban what she is, but this is a phony.
Okay?
These are just phonies.
They're all over the place.
These...
Half of the...
And I got news for you.
Half...
Let me see if I can explain this.
Most of the...
This is a very broad statement, so bear with me.
Most of the people on the left are delusional.
But the people on the right, the spokespeople, are phonies!
They're hyper, you know, these hyper-idealized, hyper-stylized, phony, pseudo-patriots who are just...
I mean, come on!
Please!
Do you understand?
Don't you understand corn and schmaltz?
Haven't you seen CPAC?
And you know who the worst are?
These new ones?
This is terrible.
The ones who all of a sudden said, hey, I like all this child stuff.
I shouldn't say child, but they're advocates now against child predation.
Oh, and they're just glamming up.
Oh, this is great.
I love it.
Hey, I'll do it.
Sure, whatever.
Doesn't matter.
If this thing doesn't pan out, I'll do some other promotion as long as I get to promote my mug and I come across as, you know, sexy.
And you know it's true.
I see it all the time.
I hate when somebody insincerely...
You don't even understand the story about this thing.
You don't get it.
We get into these weird subtexts.
Everybody's trying to figure out, what's my angle on this?
What's my angle?
Look at the various themes in social media, which is interesting.
Number one is, I love organized crime.
This is the best.
You're missing it because it's so raw.
It's some of the most authentic.
Podcasts, people speaking.
Maybe not the most articulate, but the most honest.
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That's number one.
Number two, then there's the real tough ex-Navy SEAL, hyper, super, military, masculine, centurion, covered in tats.
What is this about?
This kind of like a RoboCop meets G.I. Joe meets whatever it is.
You got that.
Then you've got these absolute phonies of the right, especially the young ones.
I'm not going to give too many names.
I'm not going to let them get their own publicity.
They don't need me.
But all of a sudden, they're coming.
Oh, they're the new stars.
And they use words like, you know...
Communists.
Oh, there's socialism.
They wouldn't know socialism or communism if it bit them on the arse.
They have no idea.
It's this phony, you know, millimeter deep conservatism that's just stupid.
There's nobody talking.
And it's all mocking and making fun of people.
And the best part about it, the shadow government cryptocracy is laughing and saying, we got it.
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