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Sept. 30, 2025 - Loomer Unleashed - Laura Loomer

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EP146: Loomer EXPOSES Big Tech's Complicity With Anti-ICE Violence

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	There is a young female journalist.
	Conservative journalist by the name of Laura Loomer.
	If America's men acting like Laura Lummer.
	Chained herself to Twitter.
	She chained herself to Twitter.
	Chained herself to Twitter.
	Apple, I'm out, I know.
	I'm not right now.
	I want to put a name.
	Apple, cut it out, don't get the back up right now.
	I want to modern my lap with the evening and welcome to episode 146 of Loomer Unleashed.
	I'm your host Laura Loomer.
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	It's great to finally be back now.
	I uh I was out last week.
	I've actually been pretty ill this last week.
	I had an upper respiratory infection.
	So forgive me if I sound a little congested tonight.
	I didn't want to skip another week of my show, so decided to just push on through and have my hot tea here and load it up on some medicine and antibiotics, and we'll see what we're gonna do.
	We're gonna get through it.
	But if I sound a little congested, I'm still feeling quite ill, to be honest.
	Something's going around.
	I don't know if I caught something when uh I was in Arizona at Charlie Kirk's Memorial or when I was in DC for meetings and flying back and forth all over the country, but I caught something, and I'll tell you, it feels worse than COVID.
	I had COVID a couple years ago, and whatever I have now feels a lot worse.
	Momentarily, I'm gonna be joined by my guest this evening, Dinesh Jesouza, a longtime friend of mine, somebody who is a you know quite uh quite notorious and prolific thought leader in the conservative movement, a best-selling author and filmmaker.
	He has a new film that's gonna be coming out the week of October 7th called The Dragon, the Dragon's Prophecy Film, and it really highlights this growing issue.
	Uh, this this debate between uh Israel versus Hamas and Israel versus Gaza, and you know, you can't escape it.
	I told my producer, you know, I really wish this issue would go away.
	I really, really wish that President Trump could get some kind of deal going because I think I speak for many when I say that I have Gaza fatigue, Israel fatigue.
	I I just don't want to talk about this issue anymore, right?
	This has been ongoing for two years, and it's caused a lot of division within the right.
	And I am pro-Israel.
	I I do believe that Israel has a right to exist.
	And I've made my position very clear.
	I am anti-Hamas and I am anti-Islamic terror.
	I do not want the same jihadist who carried out the October 7th terror attack to be here in our homeland.
	And they are.
	They are here in our homeland.
	We know from my previous interviews with Tom Home and our Borders R that we have over two million Iranian proxies, Hamas and Hezbollah operatives who are here living on US soil, who came in under the Biden administration.
	The FBI has already confirmed that ISIS is present in all 50 states.
	We have all types of Islamic terrorist activity.
	Just last week, the National Counterterrorism Center under Joe Kent, part of ODNI, released a report detailing how al-Qaeda terrorists, al-Qaeda Islamic terrorists, are now here on the homeland and they are preparing to attack American citizens.
	And so we know that these threats exist, and I feel like I've been dragged into this issue, And everybody has really been dragged into this issue because I'm trying to speak out about the threat of Islamic terrorism.
	And look, I understand that not everybody is pro-Israel.
	I'm not forcing everybody to be pro-Israel.
	That is your choice if you would like to be pro-Israel.
	I understand that people have issues with organizations like APAC and ADL, both of which, by the way, campaigned against me when I ran for Congress.
	Believe it or not, APAC actually supported both of my opponents when I ran for Congress.
	And the ADL actually lobbied Comcast to ban my campaign ads when I ran.
	And we can even pull those articles up for people to see.
	This is all real.
	This is all documented.
	So I've been I've been going up against the ADL for years.
	Excuse me.
	You type in ADL Comcast.
	Here you go.
	Oh, you connected out of that.
	I don't know why it's blocking it.
	Go back though, and you can see ADL slams.
	You can see the title right there.
	I don't know why the ad blocker's blocking it, but ADL slams disgusting Laura Loomer ad using Holocaust imagery to attack her Jewish opponent.
	So the ADL actually contacted Comcast in my district when I was running in Florida 21, which was President Trump's home district, and they worked to get my TV ads banned from television.
	So here I am, a Jewish woman, and mind you, I never said anything negative about Israel.
	I never said anything derogatory about Jewish people.
	I was simply highlighting the fact that my left-wing Jewish opponent was open borders and pro BLM and was you know pro squad.
	I was just highlighting all of this hypocrisy.
	And they were to get me to get me banned.
	The anti-defamation league called out the disgusting ad and called on Loomer to remove it.
	And when I refused to remove it, they contacted Comcast and they got them to pull the ad.
	And for those of you who followed my congressional campaign when I ran for Congress, Comcast would not allow me to send emails or text messages without flagging me as dangerous content.
	And this was very problematic because I had no access to social media when I ran for Congress, even though I won my primary and I was endorsed by President Trump, and President Trump voted for me.
	Rush Limbaugh voted for me.
	So I just personally take great offense to all these conspiracies.
	And I know that some people are upset with me because I have been on the attack mode and I've attacked people like Candace Owens and have attacked people like Tucker Kurtarlson, as I call him and Megan Kelly.
	But you have to understand where I'm coming from.
	As somebody who has been in this fight for over 10 years now, supporting President Trump, supporting the America First agenda at great sacrifice to myself and also my finances and my own professional career.
	I get really sick and tired of hearing everybody talk about the Israel lobby and APAC and the ADL, like, yes, okay, we get it.
	They the ADL is a terrible organization that weaponizes its 501c3 status.
	I mean, for crying out loud, they took donations from President Trump back in the day.
	And then when he ran for president, they said that he was like Hitler and they returned the donations.
	The guy's got a Jewish daughter, a Jewish son-in-law, and Jewish grandkids for Christ's sake.
	So obviously the ADL weaponizes itself to attack people this attack this week on Turning Point USA.
	There's videos of me from 2017 when I went to the ADL headquarter office in New York City and I called them out and I called out Jonathan Greenblatt, who worked for Barack Hussein Obama and covered up the photos of Barack Obama with Louis Farrakhan of Nation of Islam, if you recall.
	And he literally called the police on me when I showed up to his headquarter office.
	So I get tired of being called a Mossad agent.
	I get tired of being called a kike.
	I get tired of getting called an Israeli agent, an Israeli spy.
	Go back to Israel, bitch.
	Like you're going to the oven, bitch.
	Like all this stuff that people say to me on a daily basis, it gets to be really obnoxious, okay?
	Because I have actually been attacked by APAC for no reason whatsoever.
	I have been attacked by the ADL.
	I went down to the Darien Gap and risked my life and exposed highest, the Hebrew immigrant aid society for importing Islamic migrants and illegal aliens and allowing for them to come into our country illegally.
	So even if you are Jewish in this country and you call it out, you still get attacked and you're still a victim of and a target of all of this anti-Semitism.
	And it is real.
	You can criticize APAC and you can criticize uh Israel and you can criticize the ADL without engaging in, you know, just virulent Jew hatred.
	All right.
	And that's what it is.
	It's it is Jew hatred.
	And I would really love for people who have disagreements on this issue or people who are critical of Israel to realize that there are Jewish Americans in this country, including myself, who are patriots, who always have stood up for the America First agenda, who are not dual citizens, who are America first, were not paid Israeli agents.
	And I would just ask you to keep that in mind when you are having discussions or you are engaged in debates on this Israel topic, because it has become incredibly hostile and just very dark, very dark and very, very depressing to see just people I've known for 10, 11, 12 years.
	And I know my next guest is uh gonna be able to speak to this too.
	But people I've known and I've worked with, and people who I've considered colleagues and friends and whose weddings I've been to.
	I mean, I've I've watched their kids grow up.
	They they all of a sudden have viewed me with some level of distrust because I'm Jewish or because I say that Israel has a right to exist, or what happened on October 7th was an act of genocide.
	And so I wanted to invite my next guest on tonight, not just because he, you know, is a leading thought leader in the conservative movement, but also he's been a longtime friend.
	He is, you know, friends and allies and colleagues, and he's worked with and he's you know attended events and has been on the same network and the same speaking tours and the same films, written books with many of the same conservative pundits today who have now decided to take a very aggressive, I don't just want to say anti-Israel stance, but anti-Jewish stance, and I would say like anti-biblical stance.
	And I wanted him to, you know, explain what is happening to the viewers tonight so that we can have an honest conversation about why it appears that so many people on the right have decided to engage in what I call low IQ anti-Semitism.
	So joining me now to discuss this new phenomenon and I guess this hypnosis, right?
	This Jewish paranoia that has taken over the right wing movement is my friend who is a best-selling author and filmmaker and the creator of the new film, The Dragons Prophecy Film, Dinesh D'Souza.
	Dinesh, thanks so much for joining me tonight.
	Hey, Laura, it's really a pleasure and uh, you know, heartbreaking to hear you talk about these things and dismaying and embarrassing for people like me, uh, who have been in this movement a long time, have actually ridden alongside people like Candace and like Tucker.
	Um, I did a speaking tour last year in Australia with Tucker Carlson.
	I've spoken multiple times with Candace at Blexit.
	Um, so suddenly, you know, these people built a reputation not out of anti-Semitism.
	Tucker, the admiration for Tucker came out of all the stuff he was talking about on Fox News and then his bravery in standing up at the Fox establishment.
	And Candace, of course, was basically taking a lot of the themes in my films like Hillary's America, the sordid history of the Democratic Party, but delivering those really to the black community and only the way that she could.
	And so this was all awesome stuff.
	That's how Candace built her reputation.
	And I will say before before you continue, I think it's really important to mention that while Candace was doing that, she was a product of Jewish money.
	I mean, we cannot ignore the fact that Candace Owens got her career started working for people like Dennis Prager, Jewish, working for people like Ben Shapiro, Jewish, working for Turning Point USA, where she was recruited at the David Horowitz uh Restoration Weekend conference, and I was there.
	I literally was standing feet away from Charlie Kirk when he hired, when he hired Candace Owens.
	I believe it was like 2017.
	Um, it was the same year that that Kanye West had said that it posted the tweet that said, Oh, I love the way that Candace Owens thinks.
	And that was a conference that was really uh, you know, Primarily for people in the counter-Jihad movement, a lot of the very pro-Israel uh American, I'm not saying that these people are Israeli, but these were donors who predominantly supported issues like counter-Jihad.
	I know that you spoke at Restoration Weekend because I met you and your wife there in person for the first time when I was working for James O'Keefe and helping him with undercover work, and you were a speaker at Restoration Weekend.
	And so I believe that you were there the same year that Candace Owens was there as well.
	So you can testify to this.
	And I bring this up because yeah, these are issues that other people have been talking about for years.
	But I think that it's very dangerous when you forget where you came from.
	And I think that it shows a really big character flaw and a sign of ingratitude when you forget the people who helped you arrive at the dance, like the people that took you to the dance.
	Well, I'd add a second point.
	Going back a generation to the Reagan years, there was a kind of cadre of conservatives, notably William F. Buckley, but Reagan himself.
	And they recognize that there was a kind of fever swamp that needed to be cleared out of the right.
	That this should not actually be part of mainstream conservative discussion.
	Because when you are blaming the fact that you're down and out, uh when you're mobilizing the worst human impulses of envy and channeling and saying the Jews are responsible, that's why I'm doing so badly.
	It's not that the Jews are smarter than me.
	It's not just that they work harder, they're more industrious, they they focus on education and entrepreneurship.
	Uh no, it's basically because they're wicked, uh, and I'm virtuous.
	So these impulses have been in human nature a long time.
	Uh they have had a presence on the right, but my point is that sort of the conservative guardians, and I mentioned again Reagan and Buckley, like drove this out.
	And what's happened is that we don't have those guardians anymore.
	Um, and in a sense, what's happening is that I think the Pied Pipers of this new movement are realizing that there are a lot of down and out young people whose lives are really messed up.
	And, you know, when that happens, they look for someone to blame.
	So they're finding that they're getting a receptive audience.
	Uh and look, part of it is also that, you know, institutions have earned our distrust.
	The CDC lies to us, the FBI lies to us.
	So people become very distrustful.
	They're very willing to believe even the most preposterous theories.
	And so it's it is a little hard to believe that you know, you can that you have rational people who listen to one of Candace's quote investigations.
	These are not investigations, they're just wild allegations, um sort of leading questions, uh bogus investigations that never produce a single fact, a single reliable theory that you can work with.
	They never reach any conclusion, and the moment they run out of gas, a new incendiary accusation comes in its place.
	I mean, there's an element that's almost of dark comedy here.
	You know, it is ultimately an intellectualism and an iconoclasm that is absolutely for stupid people because um there's no rational basis for it.
	None of these people really defend their ideas either.
	I mean, with Tucker, it's a little different because I think he's he's operating in a more uh kind of elusive way, but even with Tucker, uh, he uses the ventriloquist journalism technique.
	By that I mean he'll have a guest on um and he'll let the guest say something really outrageous.
	We should have allied with Hitler against Stalin.
	Oh, it's very interesting.
	I never thought of that.
	You know, now if you want to argue.
	We should rehabilitate Hitler.
	Or, you know, when I think of Osama bin Laden, I think of sending condolences to his family.
	And come to think of it, Hamas is not actually a jihadist terrorist organization, it's more of a political group.
	Right, but why would think of it?
	What what makes Tucker's a pretty smart guy?
	Why would he do that, right?
	Now he'll say something like, well, you know, this was really discussed around World War II.
	No, actually, no.
	After World War II, Patton and others said, now that we've crushed Hitler, maybe we should go on to Moscow and defeat Stalin.
	That's a whole different thing from saying we should have allied with Hitler in the first place.
	Uh that was not a respectable point of view.
	Uh, And yet there's a sort of pretext.
	And a lot of young people don't know any better.
	So they're like, ooh, yo, well, it's interesting.
	Well, you know, maybe George Patton was on my side, and that's been suppressed by the media.
	So I am watching all this with dismay, Laura, because I've been a kind of iconoclast in my own way.
	But I try very hard to take these received opinions and demolish them with systematic facts.
	You know, so what I'm seeing is a is a parody and a caricature of what I've tried to build my own career on.
	And what's what's really interesting too about you is that you've never shied away from controversial figures.
	I mean, you've you you've had controversial debates with people on the radical left, people in the so-called woke right, people who some people call neo-Nazis.
	I'm not saying that they're neo-Nazis, but you have really jeopardized your own career and put your own ability to go on places like Fox News or to get publishing deals um at risk by engaging in honest debate with people.
	You've never called for cancel culture of anybody.
	In fact, you were one of the few people to stand up for me when I was completely deplatformed.
	And mind you, you know, we want to talk about foreign governments that are influencing people's speech or talking about regulating social media companies.
	Everybody knows that it was Qatar that you know supported, and I'm not gonna say which Islamic group, because I'm not allowed to talk about it.
	However, it's all published in the news, and everybody can see it, and a lawsuit was filed over it.
	Everybody knows that Qatar is a financial backer of the Islamic organization that lobbied the social media companies to ban me.
	So look, I am a hundred percent against foreign lobbying when it comes to getting American citizen silence or regulating speech.
	I was shut down on multiple social media platforms, I was debanked, and I was silenced in a lobby campaign that was admitted to the Wall Street Journal by this Islamic organization, and it's well known that this group is backed by Qatar.
	So, in a sense, Qatar silenced me.
	Qatar is largely to blame for me getting debanked, me getting silenced and banned on all these social media platforms.
	And so when I hear people say, and I want to call them the low IQ anti-Semites, who say things like the Jews are the reason why all of our problems exist.
	The Israel lobby is the biggest lobby in Washington, DC.
	The Israel lobby, when you look at their contributions, actually accounts for less than one percent of all combined lobby efforts and lobby dollars in Washington, DC, Dinesh.
	So why is it that they only want to focus on the Israel lobby?
	When you look at the financial breakdown of countries like Qatar, they have far larger contributions and far larger expenses that are distributed to institutions, to lobbyists, to uh to universities, to politicians, to tech companies, than Israel spends.
	I mean, it's not even it's not even a comparison.
	I mean, Laura, look, I I think you should take some encouragement in the fact that this whole phenomenon uh is is not going anywhere.
	It really isn't.
	Um the turning point, there's false impression has been created that somehow it is quote the Jewish donors.
	Now there is one prominent Jewish donor, you probably know who that is as well as I do, uh, who was gonna have a turning point build a massive building with his name on it.
	He pulled out.
	Uh but the the simple fact of it is that turning point was funded by the mainstream of donors in the Republican Party.
	Most of them are not Jews.
	These are evangelical Christians, they're very successful Republican businessmen.
	They want absolutely nothing to do with anti-Semitism.
	So if turning point, I hope they don't, I don't think they will, but if they go down that road, I will tell you, they're finished as an organization.
	They're they're they're essentially gonna have the ground completely cut out from under them, not because of the Jews, but because the mainstream of the Republican Party, and I'm talking about the mainstream of MAGA, the mainstream of the Christian community, um, no less than the mainstream of respectable businessmen are simply gonna have nothing to do with them.
	So good luck if you want to go down that road.
	You know, you might get some some kids in their basement who are like, wow, you know, this is the way to go, and we're really giving it to Netanyahu and Mossad is behind everything.
	They're fracturing the MAGA movement, they're really hurting Trump at this point.
	Uh We're not gonna be trading out, you know, Mark Levin for um for Nick Fuentes.
	I I assure you of that.
	So I I think the bottom line of it is that this is careening out of control.
	I think it is already out of control.
	Um, but nevertheless, uh, and it may well be that Trump himself will have to stop intervene on this because Trump doesn't want to see his legacy and his coalition destroyed.
	So it's not just it's bad for the Jews, it's bad for Israel, it's bad for the country, it's very bad for MAGA, and it's very bad for Trump.
	Yeah, and look, you know, when you when you have these other voices out there like the Tuckers and the Candaces and the Fuenteses, look, they're free to say whatever they want to say.
	I'm not calling for them to be banned, I'm not calling for their voices to be silenced, but I will say that they are they are deliberately trying to fracture the MAGA base.
	And I recognize that there is a large faction of the GOP and obviously the radical left that has these anti-Israel sentiments, or they are incredibly uh I guess you could say more suspicious of Israeli influence in US politics,
	but I don't think that that is an excuse to sideline the entire MAGA coalition and to fracture the entire MAGA coalition and to tell Jewish Americans or even evangelical Christians now there's this this movement by these podcasters to say that evangelical Christianity is not real Christianity, saying things like Mormons are not real Christians.
	And it's it's concerning to me because I've never heard any of this before.
	This is a new phenomenon, and I was raised, I mean, I wasn't raised very religious.
	I identify as Jewish in the sense that I was raised Jewish, I didn't grow up in a very religious household.
	But I wasn't raised to to look at people on whether they're Jewish or they're Christian.
	Like I was raised with an understanding that America is a Christian country and that our values and our rights were derived from God and it comes from the Bible.
	Everything in our constitution and our bill of rights comes from the Bible, and you look at everybody as your equal.
	And this is not a Muslim country.
	So I think people have every right in the world to be critical of Islam.
	When they when you talk about freedom of religion, when our founder when the founding fathers were talking about freedom of religion, they were talking about Judaism and they were talking about Christianity, mostly Christianity, Judeo-Christian values.
	That's what they were talking about.
	They weren't talking about Islamifying America and this new coalition that a lot of these, I would say, woke right influencers or woke right podcasters are trying to push.
	I'm sure that you're familiar with it.
	I'm sure you're a lot more religious than I am.
	But this concept of a Christian Muslim alliance, I just think that this is completely asinine.
	I mean, you've talked about the threat of Islam and your books and your films, and we're gonna talk about it tonight.
	We have a trail a trailer for your film, and I want to get into this discussion.
	Well, what do you think about this this distortion of reality that Jews and Christians are no longer equal allies in the fight for preserv preserving Western civilization, and that instead it's this new like Christo Islamic alliance.
	Well, I think that it is it's theologically uh um insan uh inane uh and it's politically destructive.
	Uh it makes no sense either on the theological or the moral or the political level, none of it.
	Um so let's look at a couple of things.
	Uh first of all, on the Charlie Kirk uh assassination.
	You know, here we are finally making real headway and going after Antifa.
	Here we are going after these trans cults that are heavily armed, that are uh increasingly disposed to violence.
	It looks like in this case, there was a kind of network of these trans activists.
	They may not have carried it out, but they were aware of something that was coming because they were talking on Discord, something big is gonna come tomorrow.
	So here we are on the verge of busting this whole operation.
	Great political value to us.
	And then along come people on our own side and go, oh, well, that's not it at all.
	You see this photo of uh of a pipe right here.
	Well, a Mossad agent could have crept through the pipe and shot Charlie Kirk.
	So it maybe it wasn't Tyler, maybe it was that guy who did it.
	And so it's almost like they're trying to create reasonable doubt on behalf of the shooter.
	It's almost like they are trying to take a winning issue in which our tanks are like cruising down the street and they want to draw attention somewhere else.
	And the same is true, by the way, you mentioned the issue of radical Islam.
	And here's the point.
	Israel is really effective in fighting radical Islam.
	We, America, have not been so effective.
	Jimmy Carter pulled the rug out from the Shah, we got Khomeini, we helped to give radical Islam a major state.
	After 9-11, sure, we expelled the Taliban, but they came back.
	We didn't do a very good job in Iraq.
	So Israel is on the front line, they know how to fight it.
	Even though they're small in number, they can basically whip it in Sudan, they can take it on in Turkey, they take it on in Qatar, in Iran.
	It's basically Israel that smashed Iran, not us.
	Now, at the very end, Netanyahu makes a phone call to Trump, can I borrow some B-2 bombers for 24 hours on loan?
	You can have them right back.
	Uh and there go Iran's nuclear facilities, at least for the foreseeable future.
	Now, does that help uh Iraq uh Israel?
	Yes.
	Does it help us?
	Of course it does.
	And and so uh my point is why why when we give foreign aid to so many countries, countries that give us the finger, countries that do nothing for us, suddenly people are worried about our 3.8 billion, which goes to Israel.
	Whereas if I calculate our ROI, our return on investment, it's certainly better with Israel than any other country I can think of.
	Well, nobody ever wants to talk about the fact what I find to be very dishonest and disingenuous when these uh pundits talk about aid to Israel or our relationship with Israel, they never want to talk about the fact that we we share intelligence with Israel.
	They never want to talk about the fact that we we share uh counterterrorism intelligence with Israel, and so Israel essentially is assisting us with our own national security by helping us counter the threat of Islamic terror here in the homeland.
	And I think that that is a great service, not just to our to our own country here in the United States of America, but also to Western civilization and to humanity as a whole.
	Because it's the IDF and it's these, you know, Israeli soldiers that are really, you know, on the front lines, and and I'm I'm not saying that American soldiers are not in danger and that American soldiers aren't on the front line either.
	But when we're talking about the border with Gaza, and we're talking about the threat of Hamas and Hezbollah, and we know from Tom Homan, and we know from reports from GHS, and we know from counter-terror reports and from President Trump uh releasing this information to the public as well.
	We have over, and this is what Tom Homan said, Dinesh when he came on my show, over two million Iranian proxies living here in the United States of America, many of whom came in completely undetected during the Biden administration, and they came in illegally through our wide open border.
	A lot of those people are members of Hamas.
	A lot of those people are members of Hezbollah.
	They are supporters of the IRGC.
	And so you would think that the average American would be a little bit more grateful to the IDF and would be a little bit more grateful to Israel as a whole for putting themselves in danger to protect the safety of American citizens and to protect our own national security here in the homeland.
	I mean, I don't know what your thoughts are on that, but I just wish that Israel could do a better job conveying that.
	I know that Charlie Kirk's letter to Israel has been going viral, and I agree with a lot of what he said in the in the letter, in that uh Israel is losing the you know the information or propaganda war, and it's because they're not effectively communicating these things.
	I think that Israel also needs to do a better job communicating the fact that they actually counterbalance a lot of the aid that they get from the United States by purchasing weapons from the United States and by sharing and providing uh counterterrorism intelligence and um allowing for for training.
	I mean, we have we have training exercises where members of our own US military uh conduct joint joint training operations with the IDF.
	How come none of that is Ever disclosed publicly.
	You know, I think the the broad issue here is is this, and that is that if somehow we were antagonizing the Muslim world entirely over the issue of Gaza, then you could say, well, you know, we're paying a very high price with our alliance with Israel because we're upsetting two billion people.
	The truth of it is there is a global jihadi ideology underway.
	Right?
	It it has its roots in Saudi Arabia.
	It comes out of the fumes of Egypt, Pakistan.
	Uh the people who cooked up 9-11 had nothing to do with Gaza.
	Um, they are mounting global operations.
	Uh they are infiltrating Australia, uh, Canada, Europe, America.
	We see them.
	I live in Texas, even in Red Texas, you see a proliferations of mosques in Houston and Dallas.
	So this is this is global jihad of one sort or another.
	Um the uh the Muslim Brotherhood for uh uh adopts a different program, a different a more subtle uh deceptive program of jihad uh that is different from say ISIS or Al Qaeda.
	Now, Israel is a tiny part of this.
	These global jihadis don't wake up in the morning and while they're having their morning tea or coffee worry about the Palestinians, they could care less about the Palestinians.
	Hamas is a pawn for them uh to operate.
	Or places like Qatar and the Islamists in Turkey and the Islamists, of course, in in Iran.
	So here's my point.
	Um the United States is facing this global threat.
	Uh and Israel is on our side uh in in helping us fight the threat in that region, and very effectively so.
	So to be against Israel is to support the jihadis.
	There's no other way to look at it.
	In the real world, you're choosing between actual options on the table.
	So it's that's why I'm pro-Israel.
	That's why I'm pro-Israel.
	I mean, look, I'm pro-Israel for many reasons, but when people say, Oh, why are you so pro-Israel?
	And I get pushback from people who say, Oh, you know, the reason why you're not, you know, you're you're getting attacked online, or the reason why you keep on getting, you know, um shadow banned or attacked on social media is because you're pro-Israel.
	Why do you have to be so anti-Muslim and pro-Israel?
	Because Israel is on our side in defending us from the threat of global jihad.
	If Israel ceases to exist and Israel is completely annihilated, there's not going to be a wall protecting the United States of America or protecting Europe, protecting Western civilization as a whole from the threat of this global Islamic jihadist movement that surrounds Israel.
	It's a hostile border on every single border of Israel.
	And this is what I've been trying to explain to people is that Hamas Right.
	You you think of Hamas as a Palestinian terrorist organization, that's the militant wing of the Muslim Brotherhood, which has embedded itself here in North America, here in the United States of America, in our institutions, these jihadis in suits, as I like to call them, who disguise themselves as lobbyists or academics or you know, congressional candidates, or people like Zoran Mandami, who is a Muslim Brotherhood operative, Muslim Brotherhood money is propping up Zoran Mandami's campaign.
	And so what people don't realize is that the Muslim Brotherhood, while Hamas is waging this, you know, militant fight in Israel, and they have everybody on a global scale completely distracted by what side are you on?
	Are you on the side of Gaza or are you on the side of Israel?
	Are you on the side of the Palestinians or are you on the side of the Jews?
	They are serving the purpose, in my opinion, Dinesh, as a global distraction for the Muslim Brotherhood to further embed themselves and further entrench themselves in our society and to subvert our country.
	I don't think that it's a coincidence or it should be a surprise to anybody that while this conflict has been brewing in Israel and Gaza for the last two years now, two years, I mean, we're coming up on the two year anniversary of October 7th.
	And then we're gonna we're gonna play the trailer for your film and get into the significance of your film and how it relates to October 7th.
	But while this conflict has been brewing and everybody on the right is at each other's throats talking about, oh, the Jews this or the Jews that, or the Muslims this, or Gaza this, or genocide this, genocide that you have a an increasing rate of jihadi candidates running for office and launching Uh congressional campaigns and mayoral race uh races here in the United States.
	And I don't think that that's a coincidence.
	I don't think that it's a coincidence that Zoran Mandami, who has been a United States citizen for less than eight years, who came from Africa, who is on video praising the Holy Land Foundation terrorists from the Holy Land Foundation terrorism trial, our nation's largest terror uh financing trial, which took place in Texas where you live, you said.
	He was only able to slide and you know evade detection from the GOP and evade detection from moderate Democrats as long as he as long as he did, because people were distracted by this conflict in Gaza.
	And I just want, I want it to end.
	I want it to end so badly, not just for humanity and not just so that people can stop killing each other, and not just so that we can eradicate the threat of Hamas, but I want Americans to be able to focus on other issues again.
	I want Americans to be able to understand this real threat of Islamic jihad in our homeland because I truly believe Dinesh that we are on the brink of having another 9-11 style attack.
	Look, we have we have the most peculiar alliance in the world that has developed between the LGBTQ cultural left on the one hand and the radical Islamic jihadis on the other.
	Now think about it.
	These two groups cannot exist in each other's world, right?
	You cannot take the LGBTQs and put them in Gaza.
	They would all be jumping out of windows or thrown off of roofs.
	So they know that.
	They can protest at Colombia.
	They can't really do it.
	They can't live in Gaza.
	They can't actually live in most of the places where jihadis are in control.
	Conversely, um, the um the jihadi Muslims uh would not be at home at like the fulsome street fair where you've got all these gay guys who put on straps and go dress as dogs and bark on the streets and do all kinds of obscene things.
	This is not gonna go well with Muslim sensibility.
	So you've got these two very disparate groups, and yet, weirdly, they're joined at the hip because they have a common enemy.
	Who's the common enemy?
	The Jews, the Christians, Israel, the little Satan, the United States, the great Satan.
	So these otherwise incompatible, strange bedfellows are willing to come together because they despise us so much.
	And so now I ask, why are there people on our own side who are who are strengthening that coalition, who are weakening the uh rapport between the Jews and the Christians who are trying to undermine the vital relationship between Israel and the United States, which is needed to fight this kind of red-green alliance.
	By red here, I'm I'm referring to communism, by green, I'm referring here to the sort of Islamic uh jihadism.
	This is the reality of our time.
	And you have to take sides in this fight.
	Absolutely.
	And so, in a way, I don't know if it's deliberate.
	I don't know the motive of it.
	I'm not gonna try to guess at it, but I know the effect.
	It's extremely pernicious.
	Uh, and I'm pretty sure that the president of the United States is of the same view.
	I agree.
	And the Red Green Alliance is a big part, a big theme of this show and a big theme of my content.
	And that's my biggest grievance with what Candace and Tucker and people like Megan Kelly are doing by entertaining the idea that Israel somehow had something to do with Charlie Kirk's assassination.
	They are reducing the opportunity that we now have in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination and the increased focus on the topic of political violence and the topic of the Red Green Alliance Dinesh to crack down on the radical left and for President Trump to designate groups like Antifa and the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization.
	And when you say things like Tyler Robinson didn't kill Charlie Kirk, you are giving cover to, and you are providing a scapegoat for the radical left to face accountability.
	So we're not gonna see the trans movement, Trantifa, as I like to call them, be held accountable.
	We already know that Tyler Robinson was dating a trans furry, and we already know that he was admitting to his plans either beforehand or after the fact to assassinating Charlie Kirk.
	And we don't know who those individuals were inside that Discord channel.
	Whether or not these are Antifa members or these are also members of some kind of trans militia.
	And so what they're doing right now is they're actually providing cover and they're providing excuses for Tyler Robinson's defense.
	And they are reducing our one chance that we've been waiting for for the last 10 years for accountability for these groups in the Red Green Alliance.
	And so I want to have that be the transition into your film.
	You have a new film that's coming out the week of October 7th.
	It's called The Dragon's Prophecy Film.
	I want to go ahead and play the trailer because it has a lot to do with what we were just talking about.
	And then I want to let you uh explain what your film is about and why you made it.
	So let's go ahead and play this trailer.
	Then another sign appeared in heaven.
	An enormous red dragon.
	revelation Once again, an armed attack in the Middle East.
	But this time it's different.
	October 7th was the devil's holiday.
	It's very hard to believe what happened, even though I was there and seen with my own eyes and seeing them laughing and killing and having fun with it.
	Because if you don't open the door, they are going to kill you and they are going to kill me, so please open the door.
	So who are the Jews?
	Who are the Palestinians?
	And whose land is it really?
	Could the fate of the world of humanity itself be somehow tied to this place?
	The nation of Israel is a resurrected nation.
	So what if there was gonna be a resurrection of another people, an enemy people of Israel?
	The Bible speaks about this whole war as a dragon representing the enemy, attacking a woman representing Israel.
	The civilian deaths on both sides represent victories on the part of the dragon.
	The mass did everything within their ability to maximize the civilian casualty.
	Came back to a land that was largely barren and empty, and we brought it back to life, and we're good to keep it.
	The devil hates the Jewish people because they represent the existence of God.
	Because without that Jewish foundation, there is no Christianity.
	If we're approaching the end of time, God will reveal himself more and more dramatically.
	Speak back through the stones.
	The story that they've been telling is that Israel is a colonial project.
	The problem with that is the city of David.
	We are an inconvenient truth.
	Are you aware of any significant archaeological finding that contradicts the Bible?
	No.
	God's word stands firm.
	The dragon will not prevail.
	Your message here is become a dragon slayer.
	That's it.
	Based on Jonathan Cahn's number one international bestseller, The Dragon's Prophecy.
	Earth to God.
	Come and God.
	Very powerful trailer and...
	I hope that people take time to go watch your film.
	And uh I wanna have you explain why you decided to make this film, but I noticed that you uh you show a lot of the really graphic footage from October 7th.
	Uh, how are you able to uh get the rights to utilize uh that really graphic footage from October 7th?
	I mean, that is uh that is not recreated footage, that is real footage from the GoPros of the Hamas terrorists and footage from the security cameras from the different kibbutzes where a lot of these you know innocent Israelis were slaughtered and killed.
	And so uh walk us through this process of how you decided to make this film and how you were able to get access to the footage.
	So I'll start with with the footage of October 7th.
	The really remarkable thing is that this is not footage from the point of view of Israel.
	You're not going to see the attack as the attackers approach you.
	You're actually going to ride into Israel with the attackers themselves.
	Why?
	Because Hamas took the footage.
	And they live streamed a lot of it.
	And so there were right after October 7th, people collected this footage, put it together, and I just got a massive like archive of it.
	But then I noticed that it was not getting out.
	No one was seeing it.
	It was not available.
	And Israel, the government which had the footage, made a kind of interesting decision, I think ultimately wrong, not to show it.
	To rather just bring in selected group of journalists from the BBC, from CNN, from Sky News, show it to them, like open their eyes.
	But no, those people are propagandists.
	You know, they had no interest in the truth.
	So I realize I'm sitting on all this riveting footage, some of it extremely gruesome, and the most gruesome parts of it are not in the film, but there's enough that you really get a feeling of being there.
	Now, this is key to a movie.
	You know, Lauren, my earlier movies, 2000 Mules, I don't want to just talk to you about election fraud.
	I want to put you on the scene.
	I want you to see what a mail in dropbox, middle of the night, car pulls up, guy jumps out, looks left, looks right, make sure no one's watching, his backpack is full of ballots.
	Similarly, here, we can't even talk about these things without some experience of October 7th.
	So that's how I open the movie.
	I put you right on the scene, and from that, we discuss like the larger implications, and and my I mean the larger implications in the sense of looking at this politically, but also culturally, morally, spiritually, using the lens of history, using the lens of the Bible.
	It's a very wide ranging film and kind of mind blowing to be honest.
	A departure from my other films, which are focused rather in a very focused way on the meaning of America.
	This is a this is a change of pace for me.
	Yeah, well, I'm really looking forward to watching the film.
	Uh walk us through the different themes of the film.
	I know it's based off a book, The The Dragon's Prophecy.
	For those who may not know what the dragon's prophecy is or the metaphor of the dragon and how it relates to uh you know Christianity to Judaism, walk us through this because I think that this is probably a concept that uh may go over people's heads if they are not familiar with the prophecy or they haven't read uh read the book.
	The the prophecy is kind of unfurled in the film.
	I'll just say that the dragon represents the devil.
	And so what are we talking about?
	We're basically saying that there is a world behind the world, and we're also saying that underneath these political conflicts, there are not just moral conflicts, but spiritual conflicts, and in some level it's good versus evil.
	It's God versus the devil.
	Uh, we don't hesitate to frame it in that way.
	Now, where Jonathan Khan comes in, I think he he draws a very startling and insightful comparison.
	He says that Israel's war with Hamas, triggered by, of course, October 7th, is a an eerie recreation, a replay of battles described in the Bible between the ancient Israelites and their long-standing enemy, the Philistines.
	Now, very remarkably, the name Philistine and the name Palestine is the same name.
	In fact, it's the same word.
	And uh and what Jonathan Khan says is not exactly that these are the same people, but that they use the same tactics.
	So let me give an example.
	In the Bible, there is the figure of Samson, who is a hero.
	He represents the strength of Israel, and he is captured by you guessed it, the Phil the Philistines.
	And what happens is the Philistines blind him in very much the same way that Israel was blinded on October 7th.
	And the Bible says he was dragged to Gaza.
	So Gaza's named in the Bible.
	Uh, the Philistines control that area.
	It was called Philistia.
	It was made up of five cities, the most notable, Gaza.
	So here's Samson in Gaza, and um the Bible says that the people of Gaza said, strip him, take his clothes off and bring him out so we can be entertained by him.
	And guess what?
	Right after October 7th, hostages were stripped down to their waist, Paraded out there, and you have all kinds of people jumping and dancing and congratulating each other.
	Allahu Akbar.
	So what Jonathan Khan says is he says, look, Samson in the Bible was kind of the first hostage of Gaza.
	I mean, what a startling uh an idea that suddenly takes October 7th and says it's not just a terrorist incident, it's not even just an historical incident.
	It's kind of a biblical incident.
	And if we use this in large perspective, it just allows a lot more uh not just political but also spiritual insights to come out of it.
	So that's just a glimpse of the kind of fresh ideas that you will see in this film.
	So the film is right in the middle of politics.
	Tucker is in the film.
	I take Tucker's question to Ted Cruz, I pose it to Netanyahu.
	So all that is in the film.
	It's time Lee, but it's also timeless.
	So you took Tucker's question to Netanyahu.
	What did Netanyahu have to say?
	Or are we gonna have to watch the film to find out?
	Well, no, no.
	I mean, Netanyahu, you know, what I with Netanyahu, what I like is I was able to bring him out of his rehearsed.
	Sometimes he seems to me just like a little stiff.
	And and I know why.
	He's under siege everywhere he goes, he's he's embattled, so he's well rehearsed.
	But what I wanted to do is I wanted to get him into the argumentative be yourself, let your hair down type of mode.
	And he really does that.
	He talks about Jesus.
	He talks about, you know, he talks about, in a sense, this attempt to somehow claim that Jesus was a Palestinian or the Jews have no history in that land.
	You know, Netanyahu's interested in all this stuff.
	He talks about all the Jewish names of all the people around Jesus' dad is Yosef, you know, Jesus is Yeshua.
	Uh so it's fun to hear Netanyahu get into it.
	Uh, and of course he's very scornful, but I think in an impressive way about Tucker.
	He basically says Tucker doesn't even know what he's talking about.
	Is there anything else that you wanted to share with the viewers about the film?
	I I see it comes out on October, uh October 6th, you said, in theaters, select theaters.
	How do people see this in theaters if they want to watch it in theaters, or what's the best way if they can't watch it in a theater?
	Well, basically, you gotta go to the website.
	It is the dragonsprophecyfilm.com.
	Laura, you have it right up here on the Chiron, so easy for people to go there.
	We're gonna get it up on the screen right now, too.
	Yeah, it's in it's in theaters for two days, 400 theaters or so.
	You can put in your zip code and then boom, all the theaters will come up around you.
	You buy your tickets right on the website if you want to watch at home, no problem.
	You can pre-order streaming, pre-order DVDs.
	It'll be Salem now is our main platform.
	It's also gonna be, by the way, on Rumble.
	So you'll be able to buy click and bite and click and watch on Rumble as well.
	Um, so the other aspect of the film, I'll just mention very briefly is biblical archaeology.
	Because while Jonathan Khan speaks from a biblical perspective, look, I've got lots of secular viewers who are gonna ask, well, how do we know we can trust the Bible?
	How do we know that these figures in the Bible like Isaiah and Jeremiah and King David?
	How do we know that these were real people and that the Bible is talking about real events?
	So there I am in Jerusalem, I'm in the archaeological pits, I'm pulling seals and stones out of the ground.
	Uh, what I'm really showing is that there's astonishing evidence in the last several years that validates the historicity of the Bible.
	So you can disagree with the theology of the Bible, you can dispute the miracles.
	I'm talking about the Bible in terms of giving an accurate historical account.
	And that is being affirmed by by science and by modern archaeology.
	Almost as if as the world has become more secular, God is speaking back through the stones.
	Well, I really appreciate you coming on and sharing your insight into these issues.
	It's uh, I don't know, are we ever gonna see an end to this discussion?
	Or do you think that this is gonna go on throughout the midterms as well?
	Because my biggest worry, Dinesh, is that people are so distracted by this it seems like every single right-wing podcaster, all they want to do is just talk about Jews.
	Every single time I log on to X, it's like another person talking about another conspiracy, how Jews are involved, to the point where, you know, it's like every single day, everything is the fault of the Jews.
	And so, do you think that we're ever gonna get to a point where people can have a mature conversation about these issues and focus on other issues like the midterms and focus on issues like you know the growing global jihadist threat here in America and in Europe.
	Are we gonna be able to talk about primary elections or just anything for that matter?
	It seems like nobody talks about anything anymore aside from this conflict between Israel and Hamas.
	I don't know if it's like an echo chamber that I've been, but does it not feel like every time you log online or any time you watch a podcast, that's all anybody's ever talking about?
	I don't know if it's like the easiest way for people to make money.
	I think it is.
	I think it's the easiest way for people to make money, because obviously there's a lot of money going around for people to talk about these issues.
	But I'm just wondering, are we ever going to return to normal?
	Well, let me s let me introduce uh just briefly a theme here that is worth thinking about, and that is that when I when I introduced a kind of spiritual perspective, I don't think anti-Semitism can be explained just as a function of envy uh or scapegoating.
	Uh I think in the end, it is in fact a coming out of the toolbox of the devil himself.
	And and what I mean is this uh if you if you kind of accept the clash between good and evil, God and the devil, the devil cannot defeat God, right?
	God is the creator, God is all powerful.
	So what does the devil do?
	He picks on the surrogates of God.
	So in the first book of Genesis, the devil picks on Adam and Eve.
	Well, why?
	What have Adam and Eve done to him?
	Nothing.
	But if the devil can ruin God's creation, then he's gonna get the last laugh on God.
	He's gonna get his revenge on God.
	And I think anti-Semitism, the targeting of the Jews, all this from the river to the sea, even the fact that right in the middle of Jerusalem, there is a the site of the uh of the the temple mount.
	Right?
	That's the that's where Solomon built his first temple.
	Uh the Muslims colonized it, uh, and they have a victory arch called the Dome of the Rock, and right next to it, the Al-Aqsa Mosque.
	It's almost, it's not politically, you can understand it as the Muslims basically saying, we have conquered Jerusalem.
	And look, even now we've got, we are, we are controlling the place.
	But from a theological perspective, it's almost like the devil himself is saying, listen, here's the holiest site of Judaism and Christianity.
	If I can take over that site, if I can sit on the top of the temple, what a big hearty laugh I will have on God.
	So some of these themes which seem a little far out, Laura, nevertheless, I think we are in an age, and particularly after Charlie Kirk, there's a kind of a spiritual interest and a revival in the country.
	I want this film to be a part of this because it does not ignore the political side in any way, but it presents a kind of biblical lens that I think will really help us to rise above a lot of the uh the just as you say, very depressing, ugly stuff that is out there now.
	In some ways, it's a political test for MAGA, right?
	Because if MAGA ultimately descends into this snake pit, uh we really are forfeiting our own credibility in governing this country.
	I think that nothing less than that is at stake.
	I agree.
	I mean, what do you think the outlook is for 2028 and 2026 at this rate, given the fact that you now have coalitions of people and people on the right?
	I mean, I saw an interview with, I think it was Tucker and Marjorie Taylor Green, who they were trying to glorify Mamdami, Zoran Mandami and say, oh, he's the most, he's the most like ideal candidate now who's running for office because he said that if he could visit any country, he wouldn't go to any country.
	And yeah, I understand the concept of yes, you want everybody to be focused here on America, but it's a little absurd at the end of the day.
	Like, do you really want to have a jihadist who is an open communist be mayor simply because he says he doesn't ever want to visit Israel?
	Well, of course he's gonna say he never wants to visit Israel.
	There's no crime in visiting Israel.
	There's no crime in visiting Israel.
	And yes, we want our politicians to be here in the United States of America, but are we really going to pretend that a communist jihadist who has not even been a citizen for more than eight years is more ideal than any other candidate in the race because he said that he has no desire to ever go to Israel.
	I mean, this is very dangerous.
	This is very dangerous.
	The you know, here's the here's a piece of consoling news, And that is that so often on social media, and you and I live in the habit social media quite a bit, we're very much shaped by that by that ecosystem.
	And so you'll hear things like, you know, Trump has lost his base.
	But his base is not these nerds on Twitter.
	Uh his base is the mainstream of the Republican Party.
	Now you can argue uh that on top of that base, which delivers to Trump like 45% of the vote straight out, he needs another six percent, and so he's got to get the Latinos in South Texas, and he's got to add this group and that group.
	But that doesn't make them the base.
	That just makes them the added 1% or 2% of 3% to get him to 51.
	So I'm not saying that that these groups are not important, but I'm saying they are not the base.
	They are not the center of the Republican Party.
	I don't think the center of the Republican Party has lost its mind.
	I don't think it's lost its heart.
	And the center of the Republican Party has the money and delivers the votes.
	So our side may seem a little besieged and embattled, but we are going to win for sure in the end.
	Well, I sure hope so, because it seems like this is a deliberate effort to suppress the vote and to also rip MAGA apart.
	I don't think that a lot of these right wingers who are pushing this, who call themselves far right or say that they are more right wing than Trump.
	I don't really think that these people are even right wing.
	I think that they're more like national socialists.
	I'm not saying that all of them are Nazis, but I know that some of these people have explicitly said, do not vote for Trump.
	That's what they've said.
	They said do not vote for Trump.
	They said things like, oh, we would be better off with Kamala Harris, or oh, you know, the Republican Party is failing us as a whole.
	Well, what do you want to have?
	You want to have the Democrats in control?
	We're very close to having the Democrats take control of the House.
	And so I do agree that we have a uniparty system and that the Republicans are to blame for a lot of issues in this country.
	But I'd much rather have a GOP majority than a Democrat majority.
	Without a doubt.
	Because if we have a Democrat majority, we're not just going to have this nonstop anti-Semitism on a daily basis.
	But I really do believe that we're going to see more political violence and shootings in churches and shootings and synagogues and shootings on college campuses and political assassinations of right-wing political figures in general, because the left is not just going to take back control, but they're going to elevate the most radical elements of their party to make sure that they never lose power ever again.
	And the most the most sinister and the most evil element of the radical left is, you know, of this red-green alliance that we've talked about is the green, is the Islamic part.
	And they're using each other right now as useful idiots.
	We see this alliance between the trans movement and we see this alliance between, you know, the Palestinian movement and the Trannies.
	These people would never be allies in the Middle East in any of the 56 Muslim countries in the world.
	And so that's my warning to people is if you keep this up and if you keep on supporting all of these Palestinian riots in America and these Palestinian rallies outside of the White House, and you keep on enabling people who are waving the Iranian flag and chanting globalized and tifada, it's not gonna be long before they assume power and you find yourself staring down the barrel of a gun inside your own church or synagogue.
	You know, and my kind of closing message to these young people is listen, you know, the reason that things are messed up in America is because the left has done this to us.
	They've done this through us politically, they have destroyed the integrity of our culture, they have blown up our educational institutions.
	Uh they have in many ways torpedoed the American dream.
	Uh, this was not done by Israel, Israel didn't do it to you, uh, and Russia didn't do it to you.
	Uh we did it to ourselves, and by we here I do mean the left, the cultural left and the democratic, with the permission slips of the Democratic Party.
	So that's where your your rage should be focused.
	Uh and I think what's going on here is that some very uh cunning people, some pied pipers, are deflecting that rage, appropriately focused on the left, and saying, uh you should be angry with Mossad.
	Uh you should be angry with Netanyahu.
	They're they're responsible for your problems.
	This is um this is preposterous, but evidently it is a certain type of snake oil that is finding a finding some receptive ears.
	Uh let's hope it doesn't do more damage than it already has.
	Uh I think I try to approach it level headedly, and the way I look at it is look, you don't have to like Israel, you don't even have to like Jews.
	Uh, but if you are constantly judging the Jews and Israel by a standard that you never apply to anyone else, that's my acid test of anti-Semitism.
	That you have one set of standards for the world.
	You think it's perfectly okay after Pearl Harbor for the United States to declare war on Japan, go pulverize the Japanese, and even if you don't agree with the atomic bombs, you would think it was good for the US to plan a massive land invasion with untold casualties, including civilian casualties.
	And you also think that after 9-11 we should have gone to Afghanistan as we did, pulverized Kabul, dropped massive bombs on those people.
	We couldn't even count the number of civilian casualties, and that's apparently okay.
	But after October 7th, oh wait, no, one thousand people were killed in those attacks.
	Uh Israel cannot exceed that number.
	So suddenly again, a completely different compass is introduced for Israel and Israel alone.
	And that's when I get my suspicions up and I say, listen, uh, I smell a rat.
	Uh I I begin to suspect here that your motives are not uh on the up and up because uh I can't read your mind, but I do see what you're doing.
	I agree.
	Well, I want to thank you for actually maintaining your integrity and not uh selling out to the Qatari money and not selling out to the snake oil salesmans.
	And look, I'm all for people having a difference in opinion.
	If they want to criticize foreign policy and they want to actually have intellectual conversations and debates about about foreign policy, that's all fine.
	But I think that we can all agree that it's no longer a conversation of foreign policy.
	It is now divulged and turned into something far more sinister, and it uh it almost feels like the beginning stages of a pogrom here in the United States of America.
	I hate to say it.
	You know, this is how I feel on a daily basis.
	And I feel like I feel like I mean, not to sound like Tucker Carlson who said, Oh, you know, I was attacked by a demon in my sleep.
	I feel like I'm a little under the weather right now.
	I have suffered from a terrible respiratory infection this last week, but I really honestly feel like I have been attacked.
	Not saying that I've been attacked by demons, but I really honestly feel like sp spiritually in some level that that I've never felt so dark about about the state of affairs in our country.
	And it has nothing to do with President Trump, but it's just watching people who I thought were rational people and it has nothing to do with with Israel or the criticisms of Israel.
	It just has to do with them being completely blinded to the actual threats that exist here in the United States of America.
	I feel like I'm living in a simulation and I feel like it's attacking my mind and it's attacking my body, and um, you know, I find myself almost short of breath sometimes when I think about it, like fully exacerbated to the point where it makes me feel asthmatic.
	I mean, I don't want to sound like Tucker Carlson where he's like, oh, I was attacked by a demon in my sleep.
	But it really honestly gives me a physical visceral reaction when I when I have to respond to some of this, or when I'm when I'm walking online and I see some of the rhetoric coming out of people who I know.
	I've had people who have literally been to my house in the past, you know, when I lived in Central Florida, or you know, people who came to my house when I lived in South Florida and they they used to be friends with me.
	And some of these people have literally said to me, I don't ever want to see you again.
	You're a child of the devil because you're a Jew.
	I mean, I'm not gonna name names, but I've literally had people who I have known for seven to ten years say things to me like this, and it's like I have no idea where this is coming from.
	I've been totally honorable in my dealings with these people, and several of them have have straight up said to me, I can't associate with you and I can't talk to you because you are you are a child of the devil because child of the devil because you are Jewish.
	And and and they you have seen you can see their posts online where they go from saying that I'm so amazing and they love me and that I'm a great friend, and that I've always been such an ally, and now they're saying the most horrific things about me for for for for what reason?
	Because I'm speaking out against global jihad.
	So I don't know, it's so upsetting to me on a personal level, and not to not to keep you here for this rant, but No, no.
	I mean, I was just very upsetting.
	I visited Roseanne Barr at her house, and we were doing her podcast in our home studio.
	And I just noticed it as we were chatting, and we were just chatting back and forth about these issues.
	And I said, you know, Roseanne, I said, I actually feel and it makes me very uncomfortable that you are genuinely frightened.
	And and think this is tough, Roseanne Barr.
	I mean, this is the this is like the fierce individualists, kind of the the person who represents the working class.
	But Roseanne goes, you know, I've always felt at home in this country, and suddenly I am a little bit out of sorts.
	Kind of what you're saying.
	Uh that I think she felt and and I just felt so bad for her because I felt like this this is our own side doing this.
	Um so this is an excusable, really.
	And it's all done under the um, you know, I'm asking questions, I'm conducting my own personal investigation.
	Um I mean, stop with all this bullshit.
	Um, and it gives me a lot of it gives me a lot of anxiety, I'll be totally honest with you.
	I mean, not to, you know, get too personal here, but it gives me a lot of anxiety because I get a lot of death threats, and I've gotten a lot of very, very severe death threats lately, especially in the aftermath of the Charlie Kirk assassination, to the point where I've had to cancel some of my speaking events and had to cancel some of my travel plans.
	And you know, I don't I'm not swimming in cash like Tucker Carlson or Candace Owens or some of these other people who are making millions of dollars a year.
	Security is very expensive, as you know.
	I can't afford to have a security guard every single day by my side 24 hours a day.
	And I worry sometimes, you know, am I gonna be walking my dog outside?
	Is somebody gonna be in the bushes with a sniper?
	Is somebody gonna kill me?
	Is some jihadist gonna point a gun to my chest and scream a lahu wakbar and say free Palestine or free Gaza like we saw?
	I mean, this is stuff that I think about now and I never used to think about.
	I'm pretty ballsy.
	I'd say that I'm pretty aggressive and I'm known for being courageous, and I would go into these rallies, but I'll be honest with you.
	I have had security professionals, people who are, you know, contracted out by people I know, donors I know, for example, who have come to my home and talk to me privately, and you know, I've been contacted by the FBI as well.
	I haven't been public about this, but I was actually contacted by the FBI.
	It's the first time I'm actually announcing this.
	I was contacted by the FBI in April, and they told me that I was being targeted by the Iranians.
	That the Iranians were actually targeting me on US soil.
	And so I think it's really concerning that, you know, here I am as an American citizen, and because of my proximity to President Trump, I had the FBI contacting me telling me that I was actually being targeted by the Iranians, and they had to send me this whole email protocol, and I had to talk to the head of their cyber division.
	Um with at the out of the FBI office and in Virginia and and DC.
	It was very scary.
	It was very scary to think that foreign a foreign government.
	So when they talk about foreign governments targeting American citizens, yes, it happens, but it's not Israel.
	It's not it's not the Israeli government, it's the Islamic countries, and it's China that are targeting people.
	And I have had to really increase my own personal security over the last several months, and I've never talked about it publicly because the FBI told me not to really talk about it, but I feel like now I have to actually talk about it because there's so much gaslighting out there, and I have really had to modify the way I live my life since April when I was contacted by the FBI and they told me that Iranians um and the um the IRGC was targeting me.
	So um Yeah, I mean, look, I I don't know if I'm gonna get in trouble for disclosing this.
	I mean, I was asked not to disclose it publicly, but I feel like I should be public about my own experience because maybe other people are experiencing this too, but I feel like it's a big form of emotional abuse to be told every single day that I'm a foreign agent and that you know I'm being I'm being controlled by Netanyahu and that I'm being controlled by Israel and that I'm not really an American citizen when I'm literally being targeted and hunted down by Iranians who are trying to hack my
	devices and and and target my own personal safety.
	This is what the FBI told me following my meeting with President Trump.
	So yeah, foreigners are attacking Americans.
	And I worry every single day that this type of rhetoric is going to get people like myself killed.
	And I know Charlie Kirk talked about this before he was assassinated.
	And I worry about it every single day.
	I really do.
	When I go to DC, I don't walk around, you know, I don't walk the streets of DC alone like I used to anymore.
	I don't sit at cafes alone and sip a latte or cappuccino like I used to alone, because I don't think it's safe anymore.
	I I don't think it's safe.
	Well, we Charlie Kirk was not killed because of his view of tariffs or tax cuts.
	There are few issues that can get you shot in this country.
	Abortion is one of them, the trans issue is another, and Palestine is the third.
	So when we address these issues, we are we are walking into a bit of a minefield.
	And it takes a lot of bravery to do it.
	And I think what's disheartening, and this is kind of what I'm getting at is you rely on your own side to have your back.
	And I think part of what I'm getting out of you now is, you know, you're hurt, and rightly so, that your own team, which should have your back and would otherwise praise you for your intrepid journalism and chaining yourself to the door at Twitter and taking on the censors, all the people for whom you're a heroine and they like my movies, and suddenly it's like Dinesh, you know, are you on Israel's payroll?
	How much have you gotten from the Mossad?
	And I'm like, I've been donating hundreds of thousands of dollars to biblical archaeology.
	I mean, I don't get anything out of Israel.
	They're on my payroll.
	I'm not on their payroll.
	But why would you even say that?
	Uh so in a way, what we have is these, as I say, these kind of demented pipers, and then you've got their aspiring followers who are becoming exactly like them.
	Uh they ri they are now relying on insinuation.
	They're just asking questions.
	They're just conducting their own personal investigation.
	And I'm like, Exactly what you don't need an investigation.
	What you basically need is a bath and an education.
	Yeah, I agree.
	And you know, it is getting incredibly dangerous, and you're right, those are the three issues that will get you shot in this country.
	I would I don't even think it's just speaking about Palestine.
	I think it's speaking about political Islam in general, right?
	Because you saw what happened to Pamela Geller, for example, several years ago.
	ISIS showed up to one of her Muhammad cartoon contests.
	It doesn't even just it doesn't even uh stay within the boundaries of the issue of Palestinians.
	If you speak about political Islam, if you speak about the trans issue, or you speak about abortion, you run the risk of getting shot or getting stabbed or getting attacked in some capacity at one of your events.
	And like I said, it's the first time that I'm really disclosing this publicly here on my show with you tonight because I was told not to talk about it when the FBI had reached out to me uh back in April.
	But, you know, you can imagine it, it is very scary, it's very alarming when you're not only having to deal with threats from the radical left.
	And yes, I get threats from Trantifa and you know, in their militant groups where they do all their training.
	I have the screenshots.
	They they they say things like, Oh, I want to drop Laura Loomer into the wilderness and go hunting for her.
	And these are people that are literally training trans militants, and they have signs that say the second amendment is for killing cops or the second amendment is for killing fascists or killing Nazis.
	So I can testify to that.
	My team and I have been extensively documenting it, and you know, there really is a growing threat of political violence, and you would expect the right to have your back.
	You're absolutely right, Dinesh, in that I would expect this type of vitriol from the left, but now I wonder if somebody were to come and shoot me, or if somebody were to come and attack me or show up to my house with a gun, is it going to be some lunatic jihadist?
	Is it gonna be some member of Trantifa?
	Or is it gonna be a member of the right who is convinced that I'm some kind of foreign Israeli agent and that I'm here to, you know, create all the problems in America for them and every single uh white male under the age of 25 years old, and are they gonna try to kill me?
	So this is stuff that I now think about.
	And I never thought that I was gonna have to think about this.
	Laura, watch the film.
	I think you'll find it to be some good medicine.
	I mean, not just for the mind, but but for the soul.
	Um, it's that kind of a film.
	Uh Roseanne and her son watched it, and they said that as Jews, they found their faith like strengthened.
	Uh, and they found the film to be, they described it like a port in a storm.
	Uh, And I made it that way.
	It's it's different than my other films, which are which operate very much just at the political plane, ground level.
	This film operates at the ground level, but it also pulls you out of that and upward.
	So a little spiritual renewal will be good for us all in particularly in this kind of environment.
	Look, I've, you know, I've been always um a supporter of you and I've defended you when when I think some very bad people tried to destroy your life.
	Uh absolutely abominable.
	And um, so let's band together on this.
	Uh, and thank you for having me on.
	I've really enjoyed it.
	Uh, if enjoyed is the right word, I mean, this is a raw topic.
	Um, but I really appreciate you coming on.
	Because this is not a time.
	I mean, I'm doing it as a Christian.
	I'm an outsider in a sense.
	I have no dog in the fight.
	But I, as I say, I really feel a certain sense of shame uh that this kind of uh toxic stuff is coming from our own team from people that you and I both know.
	Um, and so I don't blame the lost kids who don't know what they're saying.
	Uh I really just like in the schools, right?
	We blame the teachers, we blame the administrators, we blame the people who are putting the poison in people's minds.
	And the same is true, alas, on the right.
	I agree.
	Aside from the dragonsprophecyfilm.com, where can people follow you on social media?
	I know you have a show on Rumble, so be sure to hit your following Dinesh D'Souza on Rumble.
	Where else?
	I do a daily podcast.
	It's on Apple and uh Spotify and uh Google and it's on YouTube and Rumble.
	And then just follow me on X at Dinesh D'Souza and uh check out the dragon's prophecy, the dragonsprophecyfilm.com.
	That's the website.
	Order your movie tickets.
	You can't get them at the theater, so buy them on the website.
	Uh and also order DVDs, and you can also sign up for streaming right now.
	Wonderful.
	Well, Dinesh, thank you so much for uh for coming on my show tonight.
	I really appreciate it.
	And uh it's always great having you on.
	You've been a great friend, a great ally over these last several years, and one of the few people who has not sold out.
	So thank you for actually staying true to your principles.
	You've never changed and you've never disappointed me.
	I can't say the I can't say the same for most of the other people in this movement.
	But I can always count on the video.
	Keep up the great work and thanks for having me on, Laura.
	Yeah, thanks for for coming on.
	I really appreciate it.
	Be sure that you follow Dinesh.
	He was very generous with uh his time tonight.
	Be sure that you visit the dragonsprophecyfilm.com.
	Pretty intriguing trailer that we watched.
	And I'm definitely gonna try to go watch it in theaters.
	I encourage all of you to do the same.
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	All right.
	Now last Thursday, I didn't do a show because I ended up getting sick.
	However, the focus of the show was going to be all about this shooting that took place in Dallas, Texas, if you recall.
	We can get this pulled up on the screen.
	Dallas, Texas, last week, radical left lunatic shows up on a roof across the street from an ice facility in Dallas, Texas, opens fire, trying to murder ice agents, but you know, he thought he was like a wannabe Tyler Robinson, but turns out he wasn't a good shot, right?
	He didn't have arms training like Tyler Robinson did.
	We've learned that Tyler Robinson grew up in a family that you know had a lot of guns.
	He practiced shooting a lot.
	There's photos of him with his family at the range, with his brother at the range.
	Right.
	So this guy obviously was inspired.
	And when I say he was a wannabe Tyler Robinson, I'm not trying to be provocative.
	Okay.
	The FBI press conference and the um ice officials who ended up giving a press conference in response to the shooting.
	Dallas Ice Attack, how Democrat anti-ICE rhetoric is fueling leftist violence.
	They confirmed that this shooter, you can scroll down and see, scroll up.
	Joshua John is his name.
	And that photo is not just uh any photo, by the way.
	That was his Facebook photo before it was wiped from the internet.
	They said that he used ice tracking apps to locate the ice facility so that he could try to murder these ice officials.
	And they said that on his internet search history, it was ice tracking apps and the Charlie Kirk assassination video.
	They said that uh in his search browser, he was obsessively looking for videos of different angles of the Charlie Kirk assassination video because he too wanted to mimic how he could carry out his own assassination and act of political violence against these ICE agents.
	In case you missed the story, I don't really know how you could, but you know, I know everybody's busy.
	People have kids and you know, people are married, people have their own lives going on.
	So maybe you missed the story.
	But if you missed the story, okay.
	There was an attack last Wednesday at an immigration customs enforcement facility in Dallas, Texas.
	I broke the story about the fact that this individual, Joshua John, was in fact a radical leftist.
	You can see here that officials confirmed that he wrote anti-ICE on the bullets.
	This is like this new thing, right?
	This is this new trend from the radical left.
	I call it bullet casing manifestos.
	We used to just have like suicide notes or manifestos or I don't know, Facebook posts or cringy YouTube videos that were uploaded after the fact.
	But now what we have is our bullet casing manifestos, where killers now write their deeds on the bullet casings for the attacks that they commit.
	We saw this with the Annunciation shooting at the Catholic school, another attack on on Catholics and Christians in our country.
	Uh, we saw this with Charlie Kirk's assassination.
	And now we see it here.
	This is a new trend where the radical left in their acts of political violence are writing leftist messages, anti-conservative messages, antifa slogans on their guns, on their magazines, and on the casings of their bullets.
	This is confirmed.
	John was registered to vote in Collin County in Texas.
	Voter records show that he voted early in the 2020 Democrat election.
	As I was first to report and expose, this was his uh Facebook profile photo.
	You can see here it's a photo of a communist comrade with the um the right and glorious exposition comrade, Cameron Sickle.
	You can scroll down more.
	Those are the bullets you see.
	It says anti-ICE.
	And again, I'm so sorry if I come across as congested tonight, but I just uh I couldn't miss another week of my show.
	But I'm really not feeling great.
	You can scroll down.
	Look at the bullets.
	Anti-ICE.
	If you haven't already seen these.
	So why do I bring this up?
	Well we have a clip from this press conference of the ICE official, the spokesperson for ICE announcing that they know for certain that Joshua John used one of these ice tracking apps.
	You may have seen my previous shows or my previous reporting on the Ice Block app.
	If you recall the Ice Block app, it was founded by a guy named Joshua Aaron.
	And as I exclusively reported, his wife Caroline Feinstein, his name is Joshua Aaron Feinstein, but he was going by the name Joshua Aaron so that uh he could avoid detection because he had created this app and it was being used by the radical left to target ICE, and people were using this app to show up and to threaten ice and to dox ice and to harass them when they were conducting these raids.
	And we've seen several instances of people utilizing these apps to show up and try to actually murder and assassinate ice agents and members of immigration enforcement.
	So let's go ahead and play this clip, and people can see for themselves this isn't a conspiracy theory.
	These ice apps are getting people killed, and they are inspiring people and providing uh locations and sensitive information to disturb individuals in the radical left who think it's their duty to pick up a gun and you know write some anti-ICE or anti-Trump or pro-illegal alien writings on their bullet casings and to go carry out acts of political violence.
	So let's go ahead and play this clip.
	The uh shooter use the ice tracking apps.
	Anyone who creates or distributes these apps that is designed to spot, track, and locate ICE officers are well aware of the dangers that they are exposing to law enforcement.
	It's a casting call to invite bad actors to attack law enforcement officers.
	It's no different than giving a hitman the location of their intended target, and this is exactly what we saw happen in Dallas yesterday.
	The media has been amplifying these apps even as we warned them it would only lead to more attacks on law enforcement.
	We truly wish we didn't have to say I told you so.
	But here we are.
	ICE continues to prioritize the safety and security of our personnel, detained aliens and facilities.
	We will do everything possible to increase security to counter the increased wave of these lethal attacks.
	Again, we call on those who format violence and vilifier law enforcement officers to cease the dangerous rhetoric.
	We also call on law-abiding Americans everywhere to report any s suspicious activity.
	The individual that was out there yesterday shooting at our agents and our officers was trying to take the lives of law enforcement people doing their job.
	Instead, he killed two or killed a detainee and shot two others.
	That is something that's unacceptable.
	The the rhetoric that's out there on social media, the rhetoric that is um being said by some community leaders in other states needs to stop.
	There's been an increase in violence against ICE agents, not only in in Texas and Dallas, but across the country in violent protests.
	Again, I ask everybody just stop.
	Thank you.
	And we're gonna get into some of these ICE apps.
	But before I do that, I want to play some clips of Democrat lawmakers.
	People got really mad at me because I called Jasmine Crockett a ghetto black bitch because she was being really derogatory towards Charlie Kirk and said that she was uh dismayed to see that only two Caucasian members uh voted against the resolution to honor Charlie Kirk.
	And so I was giving her a taste of her own medicine.
	Like if they can be racist towards white people, then why can't I say ghetto black bitch, right?
	So I don't know.
	I don't understand why it's acceptable for people to be derogatory towards whites in America, and then if you give her a taste of her own medicine by saying she's a ghetto black bitch, people go crazy.
	So all week long, black Twitter, as they call it, has been attacking me online.
	I don't care.
	Like I really honestly don't care.
	Because I'm trying to make a point.
	And none of these people are calling out the fact that Jasmine Crockett made an incredibly racist remark about Charlie Kirk, made an incredibly racist remark about white Americans and a very politically insensitive remark, especially in the aftermath of a political assassination of a high-profile, I wouldn't even say controversial uh Republican.
	Charlie Kirk was as miltose as it gets.
	So I don't really care about all the backlash that I'm getting.
	I can take it, I'm a big girl, right?
	Like, I don't care.
	They want to make fun of my appearance, they you know, want to call me fat.
	They're calling me all types of things.
	I don't really care.
	It doesn't bother me.
	What bothers me is that we have people in Congress that are inciting violence against law enforcement, inciting violence against ICE agents, and glorifying and trying to belittle the political assassination of somebody like Charlie Kirk.
	So I want to go ahead and play some of these clips of Jasmine Crockett disparaging ICE and you know, suggesting that ICE are Nazis, that they're fascists, and that they're slave patrols, and that they're carrying out egregious crimes in our country, whipping people up into a frenzy so that they go out and try to put a bullet in the head of an ICE agent.
	Let's go ahead and uh we have several of these clips.
	So let's go ahead and play clips one, two, five, and six back to back.
	Because, you know, we have multiple clips of Jasmine Crockett inciting rhetoric like we saw in Dallas, Texas.
	This is right outside of her district, inciting this type of rhetoric that one got Charlie Kirk killed, and two is now getting ICE agents killed, and has led to a growing wave of political violence and anti-ICE rhetoric that is being exacerbated and further uh,
	I guess promoted in the app stores by companies like Apple and Google that are hosting these apps that you heard this ICE official himself say were utilized by this shooter to try to assassinate and kill ICE agents.
	So I think it's a massive national security risk, and it's time for the Trump administration to not just crack down on political violence, which is what they're doing with this new directive and this new um executive memorandum from President Trump addressing uh domestic terrorism and violence,
	but also cracking down on members of Congress who use their positions of power to incite and promote political violence, and also holding big tech accountable for hosting these at these apps in the app store that are going to get people killed.
	I mean, this did get somebody killed already.
	They tried to kill an ICE agent, but of course, you know, he was a wannabe Tyler Robinson.
	He he literally searched for videos of Tyler Robinson and Charlie Kirk's assassination.
	He was not as skilled of a shooter as Tyler Robinson, who had training with weapons.
	We know this.
	I don't know the extent of Joshua John's weapons trainings, but we have seen from the social media photos of Tyler Robinson that he grew up around guns And that he had experience shooting guns and handling guns, which is probably why, you know, he was able to conduct a kill shot, as graphic as it is and as terrible as it is.
	You can't make shots like that unless you have training.
	Just doesn't happen.
	It's like a military grade shot, okay?
	Unless you have extensive weapons training, you're not gonna make a shot like that.
	And we know that Tyler Robinson grew up around guns.
	So I bring this up because a lot of people have access to guns.
	I'm pro second amendment.
	I'm not against the second amendment.
	I think that people should have access to weapons.
	But if you have crazy people who have access to weapons and they're able to pinpoint the precise location of ice agents and they're able to establish sniper nests on top of roofs and carry out these sniper attacks on ice agents or political activists, that's incredibly dangerous.
	There's no reason why an app should be tracking the location of an immigration raid.
	No reason why.
	Should be considered private information, should not be available to the public.
	Because one, it's an issue of national security.
	These people are illegal aliens, they're invaders, and two, it's an issue of public safety.
	As we have now seen people try to utilize these apps to show up to the raids, and this is not the first time this has happened, by the way.
	This has happened multiple times in our country.
	People showing up to these ice raid locations to dox and harass ice agents to try to unmask them, to throw bricks at their head to try to shoot them, to try to run them over.
	We saw what happened in Los Angeles, and now we saw what happened in Texas.
	So listen to what Jasmine Crockett said.
	And then ask me if you think that this type of rhetoric is helpful.
	Or if it's pouring gasoline onto an already lit fire that's burning.
	Very hot fire that's already burning.
	That's that's what I feel like she's doing.
	She's just pouring gasoline onto a fire that's already consumed our country and it's spreading.
	And the Democrats are not doing anything to try to turn down the temperature, as they say, right?
	They say, Oh my god, this fire is blazing.
	This fire has engulfed our country.
	Turn down the temperature.
	It's time for Donald Trump to turn down the temperature.
	But what are they doing to turn down the temperature?
	Let's go ahead and play clips one, two, five, and six back to back.
	When I see ice, I see slave patrols.
	Now I never live through the slave patrol period.
	But if you know the history of policing in this country, then you understand that they were born out of slave patrols.
	Shoulder to shoulder with John Lawson, Jasmine Crockett, and all of my colleagues who the Trump administration, the so-called Department of Homeland Security has singled out for forcefully pushing back against them.
	Here's the deal.
	Y'all always get mad when we tell the truth.
	The reality is that I have a bill that would make sure that as ICE is going out and going into these communities, if you truly believe that ICE was doing what they are supposed to be doing, then they wouldn't be hiding their faces.
	And so let's see how many Republicans want to stand with Democrats as we say don't hide your faces.
	The rest of law enforcement agents don't have to hide their faces.
	You know why?
	Because they're not going in and busting people's windows and taking people down to the ground.
	So don't be mad when we accurately describe what is taking place, and it is a travesty.
	I don't care if you're a Democrat, Republican, or independent.
	You should all be offended, and you should all be concerned if we allow any law enforcement in this country to treat anyone the way that they have treated even US citizens.
	It's not just been immigrants, y'all.
	This administration is criminalizing legislative oversight.
	And the Republicans on this committee are helping them to do so.
	Rep McGyver didn't engage in interference.
	It was ICE that engaged in interference while members of Congress attempted to conduct a legitimate oversight of ICE facilities.
	I'm doing good really quickly.
	Gotta get the elephant in the room.
	We know a lot's going on just outside of these walls in regards to these ICE raids and the protests.
	Talk to us about that again happening right on the other side of the stadium.
	Yeah, no, literally, I just got done talking about that.
	And the thing that I said is that here is the reality.
	There's only one color that matters to this administration, and that color is green.
	And so the rest of us needs to unite and we need to fight.
	We need to make sure that we understand that our fates are tied.
	Listen, they may be coming for our brown brothers and sisters right now, but please believe somebody that looks like me is actually probably top of their list.
	And so we can't just turn our backs.
	We have to understand that our fates are tied, and we have to fight for what's right.
	This past election, a lot of people didn't care about who got hurt.
	Now they realize the only people that are getting hurt are the people that don't have enough money in their bank accounts.
	And so I hope and I pray that we are all paying attention and that we start to push back on those that are trying to ruin our futures.
	I mean, a lot of people are standing with them in every aspect.
	Hopefully there's a moment tonight for BET to take that moment and stand with them as well.
	Yeah.
	No, absolutely.
	Here's the thing.
	The world is watching us.
	This isn't just about LA.
	It's not just about the United States.
	This is about the world.
	There are people right now saying, don't go to the United States.
	Who would have ever thought that we would be on a list where people are like, do not travel there?
	We are looking like wannabe Russians, and that's not who we are supposed to be in the land of the free and the land of opportunity.
	So I need people to understand if you got some issues when it comes to immigrants.
	Well, the vast majority of the people here need to go.
	If that's the reality, in fact, the vast majority of the people that are doing the kicking out are immigrants themselves.
	There's only a few of us who came over here only because we were stolen goods, and then the rest of them were already here, the Native Americans.
	And so listen, it is time out for trying to believe that anybody's better than anybody.
	It's time for us to see our united humanity and focus on that and understand that we are only being downgraded in every single way on the national scale.
	And I hope people hear that as well.
	Now back to tonight.
	We're honoring and celebrating 25 years of black culture, not just black music, not just black actors, actresses, culture.
	Why are nights like tonight important?
	They are so important, especially right now, right?
	We've got this anti-blackness thing that's going on.
	They call it anti-DEI.
	But we know that specifically as black black folk, we've never gotten our due.
	And so a lot of people don't want to celebrate us, but we should always celebrate us and celebrate our culture and celebrate our greatness and keep reminding people of why it is that we are here and why it is that we have stay in power.
	And that's what tonight is going to do.
	Now before you go.
	Christ.
	Pretty radical.
	phone.
	Very unbecoming of a member of Congress to be saying things like that.
	We have laws in this country, and if you're not gonna follow the laws and you're not gonna come here illegally, then you have to go.
	You have to go, it's that simple.
	I showed you the video confirming that the Dallas Shooter used ice tracking apps.
	Now we're gonna play the video of the acting U.S. attorney Nancy Larson reading notes from the Dallas Ice shooter himself, revealing his motive.
	Let's go ahead and play clip number 10.
	It all comes forward.
	I want to point out that one of these notes or papers, the sniper explicitly states, yes, it was just me.
	That statement appears to be correct at this point in the investigation.
	Notably, these loose notes included a game plan of the attack and target areas at the facility.
	He called the ICE employees people showing up to collect a dirty paycheck.
	He wrote that he intended to maximize lethality against ICE personnel and to maximize property damage at the facility.
	He hoped to minimize any collateral damage or injury to the detainees and any other innocent people.
	It seems that he did not intend to kill the detainees or harm them.
	It's clear from these notes that he was targeting ICE agents and ICE personnel.
	The tragic irony for his evil plot here is that it was a D a detainee who was killed and two other detainees that were injured when he fired into the Sally Port.
	He also hoped his actions would give ICE agents real terror of being gunned down.
	And he did this To induce constant stress in their lives.
	He hoped his actions would terrorize ICE employees and interfere with their work, which he called human trafficking.
	And this, what he did, is the very definition of terrorism.
	It's terrorism.
	It's terrorism.
	You heard it.
	It's terrorism.
	The FBI says it's terrorism.
	The U.S. Attorney's Office says it's terrorism.
	President Trump says it's terrorism.
	ICE says it's terrorism.
	Pam Bondy says it's terrorism.
	Yet for some reason, these apps are still allowed in the app store.
	Why is that?
	We're gonna get into that momentarily, but let's go ahead and play clip number 23 of Pam Bondi announcing that she's sending federal agents to ICE facilities.
	Why?
	She has to send federal agents to ICE facilities because these people are terrorists.
	These people like Joshua John and Tyler Robinson and others, members of the radical left who are trying to assassinate members of the right, assassinate ICE agents.
	These people are terrorists.
	President Trump recognizes that they're terrorists.
	That's why he just passed a new executive memorandum from the Oval Office on September 25th, cracking down on acts of domestic terrorism and ordering the IRS and ordering the DOJ and ordering his administration to start investigating the financial networks of these organizations and how they organize and how they are gathering here in the United States of America on U.S. soil.
	It's why he designated Antifa as a terrorist organization because these people are terrorists.
	They're terrorists.
	And so I want to know why are people like Sunder Picai of Google and why are people like Tim Cook or Tim Apple, as President Trump likes to call him, you know, the head of Apple, I guess he likes to call him Tim Apple.
	Why are they allowing for these ICE apps to exist in the app store?
	There's over 10 of them.
	And all together, there's over like 25 of these ICE reporting sites.
	I have an entire spreadsheet on my computer here.
	I'm gonna go through all of these momentarily with all of you.
	But before that, I want to play this clip so you can see the extent of the violence.
	You have U.S. attorneys calling it terrorism, you have the FBI calling it terrorism, you have ICE calling it terrorism, and now you actually have to have a full-scale deployment of federal agents to ICE facilities across American cities by the attorney general of the United States of America.
	Credit where credit's due for Pam Bondi.
	Okay, credit where credits due.
	And so I think that one of the effective ways to counter this terrorism, if the Trump administration truly believes that this is terrorism, and I'm in agreement, this is terrorism.
	If this is terrorism, then why are we allowing for big tech executives to get away with hosting these terrorist apps in their in their in their app stores?
	The Google Play Store, the Apple App Store.
	Let's go ahead and play clip number 23.
	We're witnessing a new era of political violence.
	Assassins have tried to murder President Trump twice and tried to kill Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh.
	In Minnesota, legislators and even children attending mass were gunned down in cold blood in two separate incidents.
	And an assassin targeted and murdered our friend Charlie Kirk.
	A sniper shot three people at a Texas ICE facility, and now more than 200 violent rioters were at a Chicago ICE facility chanting arrest ice, shoot ice.
	At least one had a gun.
	We've seen this before.
	We saw it in Portland and with the LA riots.
	These are not peaceful protests.
	These are coordinated attacks by radical extremists, and they end now.
	Anyone who threatens or assaults our federal officers will be arrested and charged federally, not in some liberal state court.
	Same goes for anyone who's funding and aiding these extremists.
	You will be dismantled brick by brick.
	We are taking our country back.
	Make America safe again.
	Let's go ahead and pull up these photos.
	This is from September, I believe.
	Let's go back to that tweet posted by the First Lady's office.
	September 4th.
	There's Tim Cook right there.
	You can circle him right there, the bottom.
	you There's Tim Cooks ahead of Apple.
	And there's Sundar Pakai in the middle right there.
	We have another photo.
	You can see Sundar Pakai right there, the head of Google.
	He was just at the White House for dinner on September 4th, and everybody was uh very unhappy to see President Trump having dinner with these tech oligarchs who have not only censored his base and have not only interfered in our elections, stolen our elections, uh participated in the promotion of conspiracies, right, against President Trump.
	I'm talking about, of course, this J6 host accusing hoax accusing President Trump and his supporters of being insurrectionists, deplatforming a sitting United States president.
	I mean, these companies really honestly should have been massively regulated into non-existence after they deplatformed President Trump on January 8th, two days after January 6, 2021, while President Trump was still sitting United States president.
	But what do we have here?
	We have Sundar Pakai, we have Tim Cook, we have all we have a ton of assholes, okay?
	It's a it's a it's a ton of it's basically every single big tech asshole invited to sit at the at the table with President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump.
	Why do I bring up Sundar Pakai and Tim Cook?
	Well, I broke a story tonight, and it's it's gotten the attention of a lot of people.
	I'm told the White House is currently looking into it, the Army's looking into it.
	I got a message from a spokesperson over at DHS tonight telling me that uh they're looking into this report that I broke tonight.
	And this is just one example of the brought in our country.
	Today, President Trump and Secretary of War Pete Heggseth gave an address to military generals.
	And during this address, they announced a bunch of different regulations and a bunch of new standards for the military.
	And while they were speaking, President Trump addressed them, and he said that we are being invaded from within.
	He said that we are being invaded from within.
	I posted the clip.
	We might as well just go ahead and play the clip here.
	But when President Trump said we are invaded from within, he's not talking about the deep state.
	We already know about the deep state.
	What he's talking about, in my opinion, is the fact that we have been so invaded.
	We have been so invaded by criminal illegal aliens, by this global Islamic jihadist threat that I talked about extensively tonight with Dinesh D'Souza that I post about extensively every single day at Nazim, like every day I'm talking about this issue, and I get called anti-Muslim.
	I get called an Islamophobe, and all I'm trying to do is protect Americans, okay?
	Has nothing to do with Israel, has nothing to do with Israel and Gaza.
	It has everything to do with protecting Americans from the threat of Islamic terror here in the homeland.
	I don't want to see American citizens get attacked and killed by criminal illegal aliens that are members of uh, you know, foreign international uh transnational terrorist organizations that have since been designated as such by the Trump administration.
	Okay, I don't want to see that.
	I don't want to see people get killed by cartels.
	I don't want to see more Jocelyn Nungrays get raped and killed by criminal illegal aliens.
	I don't want to see that anymore.
	I don't want to see innocent Americans get blown up on the subway in New York City or get killed in an active vehicular jihad or killed in an attack by Al-Qaeda.
	We now know from this new National Counterterrorism Center report that came out last week that Al-Qaeda is here in the homeland.
	We have all types of Islamic terrorist organizations here in the homeland.
	But this is what President Trump was talking about today when he spoke to our generals, and he said that America has been invaded from within.
	Take a listen.
	But together with many of you in the room, we've brought back the fundamental principle that defending the homeland is the military's first and most important priority.
	That's what it is.
	Only in recent decades did politicians somehow come to believe that our job is to police the far reaches of Kenya and Somalia.
	While America is under invasion from within, we're under invasion from within.
	We are under invasion from within.
	And a lot of it starts with people aiding and abetting and providing safe haven for criminal illegal aliens in our own country.
	While the Trump administration is trying to crack down on Islamic terror and the Trump administration is trying to crack down on mass deportations, mass deporting criminal illegal aliens cracking down on the invasion of our country.
	We have people at the highest the highest levels.
	I mean, we're talking about enormous wealth here.
	The big tech executives, people from Microsoft and people from people from from Google.
	I mean, you just saw that President Trump the other day announced that he wants to he wants Microsoft to fire Lisa Monaco.
	He didn't know about that until I told him that Lisa Monaco had been hired as the president of global affairs for Microsoft.
	Why is it that I have to be the one to alert the president?
	By the way, Mr. President.
	I had a conversation with President Trump right after his dinner.
	By the way, Mr. President, did you know that Sandar Pakai?
	And did you know that did you know that Satya Nadella from Microsoft?
	Do you know that Mark Zuckerberg, right?
	Whatever it may be, the grievances that I have with these people, the way that they are undermining our country.
	Why do I have to be the one to let the president know?
	Did you know that this person did this?
	Did you know that this person did this?
	And did you know that this person did this?
	Why do I have to be the one to let him know that Satya, the head of Microsoft, you can pull up his account, everybody can see here.
	You can pull up the tweet too.
	I had it pinned.
	Satya Nadella, the head of Microsoft, why do I have to be the one to let President Trump know after his dinner?
	Excuse me, Mr. President.
	Are you aware of the fact that uh Satya Nadella, who's sitting across from you, has uh allowed for the CCP to have access to DOD cyber systems and that the Chinese Communist Party has penetrated our secure cyber systems at the Department of Defense through the uh Microsoft government desure system?
	Are you aware of that, Mr. President?
	Mr. President, are you aware of the fact that Satya Nadella has hired Lisa Monaco?
	I mean, honestly, why do I have to be the one to let him know these things?
	I'm I'm honored to do it.
	I have no problem letting the president know, but it should sicken all of you that these big tech executives are sitting across from him while they are undermining his policies to make America great again and to make America safe again.
	Mr. President, are you aware?
	President Trump, that while you are trying to mass deport criminal illegal aliens and make America safe again, and while you in your big beautiful bill allocated the largest part of the budget to ICE and immigration so that we can carry out mass deportations.
	Are you aware, Mr. President, that these people sitting across from you at the White House for dinner?
	Tim Cook and Sundar Pakai are hosting apps like the Red Dot app and the Iceblock app in the app stores, in the Google Play Store and the Apple App Store, Mr. President, to threaten the lives of your ICE agents that are trying to mass deport these criminal illegal aliens on your orders, Mr. President.
	It's unbelievable.
	I mean, why do I have to be the one?
	I don't even work for President Trump.
	I don't even work in the White House.
	It's crazy.
	We can go ahead and play this clip.
	The media is losing their mind over it.
	Why do I have to be the one to let him know after this dinner?
	And mind you, I already reported this story.
	Two months before the dinner.
	Two months before the dinner.
	I broke this story.
	And I have to be the one to let them know again after I send this information to his staff two months ago.
	Why are his staff not telling him about this treachery and deceit from these big tech executives that are hiring his political enemies who tried to target him after J6, who tried to set him up with the Russia collusion hoax, who tried to jail him and his political allies, who tried to cover up his multiple political assassination attempts.
	Who deplatformed him?
	Who silenced him?
	Who are flooding our country with H1B visa workers from India and China?
	Who are serving as accessories to murder and attempted murder by allowing for these ICE apps to be platformed in their app stores while they deplatform conservatives?
	It's unbelievable.
	It is unbelievable how these big tech executives get to sit and have dinner at the White House with President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump when they are hiring Lisa Monaco and when they are allowing for this Red Dot app, and we're gonna get into the Red Dot app in my expose tonight.
	Red Dot app founded by Nicholas Waitowitch, as I exposed tonight, who is actually one of the head researchers at the Army Lab.
	You can pull this tweet up.
	Let's go ahead and get this up before.
	Actually, let's go ahead and play this clip of MSNBC losing their mind over Lisa Monaco first, and then I'm gonna get into my expose tonight so you can see what President Trump means when he says that we are being invaded from within.
	Let's go ahead and play this clip.
	With someone else.
	But Michael, I want to bring you in here talking about the target uh list, which is that Laura Loomer is um has a lot of influence here when it comes to who the president may be targeting.
	She's a far-right conspiracy theorist who has made plenty of Islamophobic and racist comments, including about uh a number of black lawmakers, but she took credit on X uh for President Trump calling for the firing of Lisa Monaco Monaco,
	and she said after I alerted President Trump to the fact that Microsoft had hired Lisa Monaco to be their new president of global affairs, he just called on Microsoft to terminate her employment and asked if they were going to comply.
	I want you, Michael, to talk about.
	I'm have you ever heard or experienced um someone like this, Laura Loomer, having so much influence over what the FBI is doing, over what the Justice Department is doing, uh, and having the ear of the president in this way?
	I mean, I'm familiar with Rasputin in Tsarist Russia, who was able to bend an entire country to his will.
	Um, but not in the contemporary democracy that is supposed to have constitutional safeguards and norms.
	This is unheard of.
	Um, and you know, the breaking news right now, but uh we're gonna get into this tweet right now, pertains to the story we're gonna get into right now.
	The lead scientist for the human-guided machine learning at the U.S. Army Research Laboratory in Maryland is the founder of an anti-ICE tracking app that helps illegal aliens evade ice.
	This is what President Trump means when he says that we are being invaded from within.
	When he's addressing our generals.
	What do you think the president is talking about?
	He's talking about the illegal aliens and the Islamic jihadists that are roaming around our country.
	He's talking about the fact that we have domestic terrorists working within the federal government.
	Me, Nicholas Waitowitz.
	He's the lead scientist for the human-guided machine learning branch at the U.S. Army Research Lab in Maryland.
	He's also the founder of an app called Red Dot, which is an ice tracking app that helps illegal aliens evade detection from ice.
	This app is currently available in the app stores, Google and Apple, despite the fact that law enforcement has confirmed violent leftist radicals are using these apps to locate ice agents and shoot them.
	This happened in Dallas, Texas last week.
	I already showed you all the clips.
	We already proved that, you know, this isn't hyperbole.
	I already showed you the statement from the U.S. attorney, the statement from our U.S. Attorney General, and the statement from the FBI and uh ICE press conference.
	You got to see firsthand that they admitted that these ice tracking apps were used uh by the shooter Joshua John.
	In the app store, Red Dot says it was created by Binary Brains LLC, a company registered out of Florida.
	And again, I have all the screenshots for this, and uh we're gonna go through all this, but uh I want to read this for you first.
	Bear with me.
	I know that um I sound very congested.
	Hope I don't have pneumonia.
	In the app store, Red Dot says it was created by Binary Brains LLC, a company registered out of Florida, according to Sunbiz Records.
	Florida Sunbiz Business Registry lists Nicholas Waitowitch as the CEO of Binary Brains LLC.
	And I blurred the addresses out because you know, I want to be respectful to the terms of service on X, and I don't want to be accused of doxing, even though you know, I personally think that the rules should be different when we're dealing with domestic terrorists and people who are, you know, aiding and abetting these criminals,
	people who are supposed to be working for the federal government or working for the U.S. Army, aiding enemies, foreign and domestic by creating ice ice block apps and creating uh ice tracking apps.
	I mean, hello, how do you work for the federal government when you are creating apps that are getting ice agents killed?
	Hello.
	Crazy.
	So the address is listed for Binary Brains LLC on the Sunbiz registry.
	And for those of you that don't know what Sunbiz is, it's the Florida registration system for business records.
	So if you have a business in Florida, it's registered with Sunbiz.
	And you can see all the addresses and all of the registered agents and the principal address and you know, the point of contact and the founder, the CEO, all of that information.
	The address that is the principal address for Binary Brains LLC is the same address listed by Nicholas Waitowitch on his personal residence, which he listed on his most up-to-date resume on his website.
	Now you can go and find that yourself.
	I have a screenshot below, but I don't want to be accused of doxing on the live stream if I were to pull up his website.
	However, since I broke this story before coming on my show tonight, Nicholas Waitowitch just nuked his entire Twitter account.
	So I'm sure he's probably gonna get fired.
	But you can see there, he has decided to completely nuke his ex account, and his ex account has now been deleted.
	So breaking news, he's now in cover-up mode.
	That's not gonna save him because I already have his GitHub archived, I have his resume archived, I have his LinkedIn archive.
	I have your website archived, Nicholas.
	I have your website, I've got everything.
	In other words, you are totally fucked, mister.
	You are totally fucked.
	Not only are you probably gonna get fired from your job, but you are probably gonna be criminally investigated as well.
	So go ahead and delete everything that you want.
	I already got the receipts.
	I already archive.
	You think I'm stupid, you think I'm gonna post your name, and you think I'm gonna post all this evidence, and you think I'm gonna make all these accusations without taking the receipts and screenshotting everything, you're out of your mind.
	I have all the receipts and all the archives.
	You can scroll down.
	Okay, so on the same resume where he has his address listed.
	He lists himself as the lead scientist for the human-guided machine learning branch at the U.S. Army Research Lab in Maryland, where he's been working for the last 10 years.
	And you want to know why people are so woke in our universities as well.
	Well, here you go.
	In addition to working at the uh U.S. Army Research Lab on his website, Nicholas Waitowich says that he's also an adjunct professor at both the University of Maryland, Baltimore County, UMBC, and a university called Ann Arden and Arundel.
	Never heard of it, but uh it's called Ann Arendal Community College, where he teaches the introduction to machine learning as well as other engineering and computer science courses.
	Okay, so obviously everybody with a rational mind who isn't a communist and who isn't a jihadist and who isn't an illegal alien, can all agree, right?
	At least I'd hope.
	I mean, people have kind of lost their minds, right?
	We were just talking to Dinesh about this.
	A lot of people have gone totally nuts.
	But there used to be a point in time where we could all agree that it is unacceptable for the founder of an ice tracking app to be employed at the United States Army Research Lab, which is the United States Army's primary foundational research research lab that is responsible for driving scientific discovery and developing innovation and new technologies for the Army.
	Totally unacceptable.
	And he's not just some random employee.
	He's literally the lead researcher.
	Let's go ahead and open up these documents at the bottom.
	Let's go ahead and pull the receipts up.
	Red dot in the app store.
	It's also in the uh Google Play Store.
	We have that screenshot as well.
	I'm sure that we can get that loaded, but uh we'll show that in a moment while we're done uh well after we're done uh showing all these other receipts, but it's not just in Apple, it's also in Google as well.
	So here's a screenshot from the Apple App Store.
	Next, oh, and before you go, you could see here it says developer, okay?
	It says red dot ice activity alerts, developer.
	Let's zoom in.
	Binary brains LLC.
	Okay, so exit out of that and let's go to the next one.
	Nicholas Waitowitch.
	I blurred out his address, but I have uh all the original documents to show the Army Secretary uh Dan Driscoll.
	I have been told that uh the Army Secretary is aware of my report and wants to get in touch with me, so I'm happy to speak with him about this.
	Uh, Secretary of War Pete Hag Seth, who I have sent this information to.
	And I know for a fact that the White House has seen it as well.
	So I'm waiting to see what's gonna happen.
	And DHS as well.
	DHS has also seen it because uh a representative from DHS told me tonight that they are taking action on this.
	What does it say right there?
	Lead scientist, human guided machine learning branch, human research and engineering directorate, U.S. Army Research Laboratory, Maryland.
	He's actually been working there for the last 10 years.
	If you scroll down and you look at his uh resume, he's been working for the U.S. Army Research Lab for the last 10 years, which is pretty crazy because you know, we have radical leftists who are aiding and abetting criminal illegal aliens programming this technology for this human machine learning for the United States Army while they are aiding and abetting foreign enemies.
	How does that even happen?
	Is the United States government even running background checks on the people that they employ?
	I don't know.
	But I'm still available to come work in PPO sign.
	Let's go ahead and open up X again and look at the other screenshots.
	There's a Sunviz document, Binary Brains LLC.
	Blurt out the address, obviously.
	Nicholas Waitowitch, obviously, you can see that title and CEO.
	So Nicholas Waitowitch is the CEO of Binary Brains LLC, which is the parent company of Red Dot.
	We showed you that on the first screenshot.
	You can go back and you can see it yourself, okay?
	If you need to see that first document again.
	Binary Brains, zoom out a little bit so everybody can see the red dot.
	Red dot, Binary Brains LLC.
	Go back to the tweet.
	Just heard so bad.
	Okay.
	Join 60,000 neighbors using red dot for anonymous ice alerts.
	Verified monitors, community reports now with comments and privacy built in.
	Because you know, what's better than almost getting ice agents killed and doing it while you're anonymous that you can never be detected by law enforcement.
	I mean, this guy is engaged in criminal activity.
	Not only is he trying to help criminal illegal aliens evade ice detection, but he's also trying to help people who may be engaged in this criminal activity of threatening ice agents' lives.
	Thank you.
	Alright, everybody, so sorry about that.
	Something really crazy happened.
	I don't even know what happened.
	Let's go ahead and get the graphic on the bottom changed too there.
	Uh back to our uh discussion before the stream crash.
	I have no idea what happened there.
	All of a sudden, all of the lights in my studio went out and the TV went out and all of the electronics powered off.
	I have no idea what happened, but we're back now.
	So apologies for that delay.
	As I was saying, this guy, Nicholas Waitowitch, who's the lead scientist for the human-guided machine learning branch at the U.S. Army Research Lab in Maryland.
	He just deleted his ex account.
	So breaking news update while we're live on air right now.
	We can go ahead and get this pulled up on the screen too.
	I'm getting it posted.
	I'm gonna tweet this right now while uh while we're live on air, because this literally just happened.
	Uh feel free to repost the live stream if you're watching live.
	Again, my apologies.
	I have no idea what just happened, but everything just kind of uh everything just kind of turned off in my studio.
	Nicholas Wadewich, the lead scientist for the human guided machine learning branch at the U.S. Army Research Lab in Maryland has just deleted his ex account after I exposed the fact that he's the founder of the ice tracking app Red Dot.
	The cover-up is taking place as I type this.
	Breaking news, you guys.
	Secretary of the war.
	Who else?
	Homan?
	Ice.
	Let's see.
	Put your comments and your questions in the chat too.
	We'll take a few questions before I log off tonight.
	But uh, yeah, breaking news.
	This guy is really brazen to not only be the founder of the app, but to also now be trying to delete his account.
	Let's see, let's get this out.
	I was just deleting a sex account.
	I don't...
	Thank you.
	He should be fired and criminally investigated.
	I wonder if he's watching my show right now.
	Alright, I just posted it.
	We're back.
	Let's go to the chat.
	Let's see what everybody's saying.
	You can scroll down before we go to the chat, actually, and we can see the rest of these screenshots.
	Might as well just show the screenshots again.
	Because I think that uh the stream completely crashed, or I have no idea what happened, honestly.
	I've never had that happen in my studio before.
	But you could see here he says, join 60,000 neighbors using Red Dot for anonymous ice alerts, verified monitors, community reports now with comments.
	Red Dot is a community-driven safety tool that helps protect immigrant communities through anonymous real-time ice activity reports and alerts.
	So not only is he trying to help criminal illegal aliens evade detection by ice, but he's also trying to help people who engage in this criminal behavior evade detection as well.
	Go ahead and reshare that.
	If you're on X, you can repost that.
	I know it's uh going pretty viral right now.
	Let's go back to that X thread too because underneath it you can see his GitHub account, which is like an open source coding site.
	So go go down and you can see here.
	Here's another thing.
	Confirming that a Tim.
	Go back to the tweet.
	According to Nicholas Wadewitch's GitHub profile, he has two ice tracking apps listed that he has contributed code to his app, Red Dot, which he founded, and the Ice Block app, which was founded by Joshua Aaron Feinstein, whose wife Caroline Feinstein was employed at the DOJ until I exposed her several months ago.
	And she was fired for being tied to the registered age registered agent address for the ice block app.
	If you recall, I exposed her, and then shortly after that, uh she was fired by Pam Bondi at the DOJ because she was an auditor for the DOJ out of Austin, Texas, where they live.
	Let's open up his GitHub profile right here.
	you can see for yourself.
	Pull up this photo.
	you That's his profile.
	Senior machine learning researcher for the U.S. Army Research Laboratory, adjunct professor at the University of Maryland, Baltimore County.
	It says Red Dot website public.
	You can see that for yourself.
	He's taking credit for it.
	And also, if you scroll down to the bottom as well, Iceblock app.
	So he is listed as the founder of Red Dot app, but he says that he is a contributor to the code for Ice Block App, which is another prominent um ice tracking app.
	They've been interviewing this guy, Joshua Aaron on CNN.
	They've been promoting him.
	His wife obviously got exposed, got fired.
	Now I I believe she's suing the administration over her firing, suing the DOJ, trying to say that this is a matter of free speech.
	No, it's not.
	You don't get to work for the federal government when you are inciting violence against federal agents.
	It doesn't work that way.
	It does not work that way.
	I don't know what kind of like crazy world you live on, what kind of crazy planet you live on, where you think that it's acceptable to be inciting violence against ice agents who are literally getting gunned down while they are trying to make America safe again.
	But this is not acceptable legal behavior.
	If you want to see the expose, it's on my ex account.
	Again, we are live.
	I really apologize for that brief uh interruption.
	We'll go ahead and we'll take a couple questions in the chat now.
	Mm-mm.
	Thank you.
	Let's scroll up.
	See what people are saying.
	See what people are saying.
	I have no idea what happened.
	We'll have to get that figured out after the show.
	It's kind of strange though that I'm talking about this, and then all of a sudden, poof.
	There goes my studio.
	There goes my studio.
	Thank you.
	Anyway, go ahead and post your comments before we continue with the comments and the chat and the questions and a little bit more coverage on some of these uh ice tracking apps.
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	We'll take a few more questions.
	If you want to see this report and digest the information and see all the receipts yourself, again, I'm gonna pin it to my ex account tonight.
	It's gonna be retweeted after the show, and you're gonna be able to see it and you're gonna be able to retweet it.
	A lot of people are talking about the story right now, and again, I fully expect the story to be all over the news tomorrow.
	I hope that we get to see some kind of a statement or response from the Army Secretary Dan Driscoll.
	Maybe the White House will have something to say about this because it really just goes to show you we really have been truly invaded from within, like President Trump said today while he was addressing the generals.
	very shocking it's a shame that uh got shut down while i was talking about all of that so hopefully uh everything made sense we're gonna fix uh whatever that issue was i have no idea what happened i swear to god that's never happened in my studio before i just think that these apps should be illegal put one in the chat if you agree with me i personally I mean, look, we could have a conversation about this.
	I don't think it's free speech, personally.
	I think that these apps are getting people killed, and they're probably gonna inspire a lot more attacks and ambushes on ice agents.
	And I think that they're a public safety risk and a national security risk.
	So if you also think that uh these apps should be banned and that it's not free speech, and that the big tech social media companies and people like Tim Cook and Sundar Pakai have a legal and a moral obligation to remove these apps from their app store.
	Put one.
	I think it's doxing.
	I think that it's um incitement of terroristic threats and political violence.
	I don't really see a reason for promoting these apps, but as I said before, there's so many of them.
	I mean, we can get this pulled up.
	We can show some of these screenshots actually.
	Why don't we go ahead and uh canon?
	Let's go ahead and get several of these screenshots pulled up now.
	I want to show everybody because um there's so many of these apps, and you may not even be aware of them.
	getting it all pulled up on my computer too you you Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Um here we go.
	Here's red dot as I showed you earlier on the Apple App Store, and then you can also see it on uh the Google Play Store.
	Do we have that screenshot too?
	I know I tweeted it.
	There you go.
	So Apple and Android.
	All right, we have this because they're broken down on whether they're uh available on iOS or Android.
	Okay, so we have Ice Block, which is available on iOS.
	Let's go ahead and show Ice Block.
	That's the one that I've exposed in the past.
	whose wife, you know, Caroline Feinstein, was working at the DOJ, founded by Joshua Aaron.
	Koki, Koki is another one.
	Tracks ICE agent locations and alerts users to nearby activity for migrant protection, iOS.
	Yes.
	sniff
	Thank you.
	Um Z and I, LLC.
	The owners are listed as Sharon, Amanda, Mary, and Peter Gunthel.
	People over papers.
	This is another one that's in the iOS system.
	Yagmer Kakhmek, that's his name.
	I don't even know.
	Sounds Islamic.
	Yeah, he's Turkish, I guess.
	That's interesting.
	Maybe uh maybe uh DHS should look into that.
	A Turkish individual, okay?
	A Muslim individual creating an app for people to evade ice called people over papers.
	I mean, like we already talked tonight about the threat of global Islamic Jihad.
	I'm gonna I'm gonna submit my whole list to the White House and DHS and uh the FBI.
	I think all these people should be investigated and the DOJ.
	Here's another one, scene migra, migra is like migration.
	It's an iOS, iOS, the app store.
	The founder is a guy by the name of Sergio Pineda.
	Here we go.
	C Migra.
	There's so many of these apps.
	It's not just one app, you guys.
	President Trump needs to call Tim Cook and he needs to call Sundar Pakai and tell them that they're going to face ramifications and severe punishment unless they get rid of these apps from the app store.
	It's a national security threat.
	Why do these people get to have dinner with President Trump and Melania Trump and kiss his ass at dinner and have this really fancy five-star dinner at the White House, and then they get to endanger our lives and pretend like, oh wow, Mr. President, we love you so much.
	Wow, Mr. President, here's a million dollars.
	Oh, you know, here's another check.
	Here's another check for your presidential library.
	Here's another check for your inaugural fun.
	I mean, where does it end?
	Honestly, I'm not saying that President Trump is bought and paid for, but what I'm saying is that how many times do these douchebags in big tech in Silicon Valley get to show up to the White House with big checks, multimillion dollar checks, and then screw the American people and completely lie to President Trump to his face and say that they support his agenda when they are literally assisting criminal illegal aliens and getting ice agents killed.
	Here's another one.
	Ice immigration alerts, iOS and Android.
	Another one to be reported.
	Red dot.
	We've already gone over that one tonight.
	Bye.
	Thank you.
	Dicer.
	Or D-Icer.
	D-Icer.
	Spelled like it should be D-Icer, but spelled like Dicer, but it's D-ICE.
	It was founded by a guy named Raphael Concepcion, who was a professor at Syracuse University on iOS and Android.
	It was founded by a guy named Raphael Concepcion.
	Thank you.
	ICE T Watch.
	This one is a web tool.
	So we already went through all the different apps, but there's all these different websites as well.
	Ice T Watch, Signal Safe, Vicinos, Stop Ice Alerts Network, Redad Alert Us, Ice Tracker.
	You can see all these, all these different sites.
	I have an entire spreadsheet here.
	Resist map.com, deportation tracker.
	Casa San Jose Rapid Response Network, Vermont Asylum Assistance Project, Ice Face Search.
	That's a that's a tool for identifying ice agents and unmasking them, doxing them.
	And then they have hotlines too.
	They have the Portland Immigration Rights Coalition, Sacramento Rapid Response Network, Central de Pueblo Rapid Response Network, NorCal Resist, Puente Arizona Rapid Response, IceWatch Miami, Georgia Latino Alliance.
	I mean, it is unbelievable.
	I have a whole entire spreadsheet here of over 50 different ice tracking apps, web browsers, hotlines.
	All of these should be shut down.
	Their organizers should face criminal charges.
	Their organizers should face criminal charges from the DOJ.
	They should be investigated by the FBI for aiding and abetting criminal illegal aliens and harming the lives and the safety of ice agents and other law enforcement officials who participate in these raids.
	I'm going to get all of this.
	I mean, I already have the spreadsheet here, but it has a lot of, you know, personal information on it, like phone numbers and addresses and things like that.
	I don't want to be accused of doxing.
	So what I'm going to do is I'm going to format this and then I'm going to release it publicly.
	I'm gonna obviously give it to the feds, and I'm gonna give it to uh the DOJ.
	I'm gonna give it to DHS.
	I'm gonna give it to Tom Homan.
	I'm gonna give it to Kirsten Gnome.
	I'm gonna give it to President Trump.
	I'm gonna give it to Cash Patel.
	And I'm gonna publish it because I think that the public deserves to know.
	And I think that Sundar Pakai and Tim Cook should be publicly shamed and pressured by the Trump administration.
	They should face some form of retribution or punishment by President Trump for allowing this.
	It's disgraceful.
	It's disgraceful.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Somebody said you can spam blast the site with false information.
	That is true.
	You can go to these apps and you can download them.
	And you can spam them with false reports to confuse people.
	But I'd rather people not use these apps.
	I'd rather that these apps get completely removed from the app store.
	It's not an issue of free speech.
	This isn't like, oh, you know, I don't like the fact that these people are democrats.
	I'm gonna ban their speech.
	No, this is interfering with law enforcement activity.
	This is a felony.
	You can get arrested for engaging in this type of behavior.
	And they're using these apps to carry out these very violent attacks on law enforcement.
	I mean, here we have a clip of a congressional candidate out of Illinois named Kat Abogazalia.
	I believe she's uh she's like Palestinian, and here she is interfering with an ICE vehicle.
	They use these ice apps and they dox the locations, and then they send a group of radical leftists and Muslims and communists who work together to block these vehicles and endanger the lives of ice agents.
	This is a crime.
	These people should be jailed.
	These apps should not be allowed in the app store.
	And I'm sick and tired of watching the big tech executives stroll into the White House with their checks, stroll into Mar-a-Lago with their checks and get away with all of their treasonous anti-American activity.
	It's time for President Trump to put his foot down and say enough is enough.
	Stop your bullshit.
	They've already had to pay him out millions of dollars in settlements for censoring him.
	They should have to pay out.
	They should have to pay a massive fine.
	They are gonna continue to endanger the lives of ice agents.
	Let's go ahead and play this clip.
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	Thank you.
	It's out of control.
	Enough is enough.
	Let's see what people are saying about this tweet.
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	But all of this information is gonna be available for you later on if you want to uh go back and absorb it all or share it or find a way that uh you can also put your own pressure on these tech companies so that they can stop endangering the lives of law enforcement.
	But this is something that I think that President Trump is going to need to speak out against personally and get involved with directly because I don't really see these tech companies doing it on their own unless they're publicly shamed into doing it by the Trump administration.
	So I'm going to encourage President Trump, you know, to take a take a look at this.
	Obviously, he makes his own decisions, but uh luckily we have a president that's very receptive to information from his allies and people who are his supporters.
	And so I am going to give him this information, and I'm going to suggest that he contact them either privately or perhaps we'll see the president issue a statement about it on true social.
	I don't know, but something needs to be done.
	And I'm gonna express that concern because it's a concern that I have, and I know that it's a concern that ICE agents have, and it's a concern that many Americans have because it's very scary when we see these breaking news reports about ICE agents being shot from a sniper's nest by some radical leftists who you know isn't is literally using these ISAPs to go hunt these agents down.
	Those aren't my words.
	Those are the words of the U.S. attorney and these officials who gave this press conference.
	Any last comments or questions before we log off tonight?
	Any last comments?
	Thank you.
	I know that President Trump is gonna do the right thing.
	He's a good man.
	I doubt that uh, you know, I doubt that anybody has even shown him this information.
	So I'm confident that we're gonna see a response and some action from the Trump administration on this.
	I really do.
	And I'm going to take it into my own hands to make sure that President Trump hears about this directly from me as well.
	Mm.
	Thank you.
	Let's see.
	Uh Corey Dallas said, I just don't know how he can't see some of this if we can.
	Somebody said Arab con.
	Yes.
	You can go to my ex account, you can see all my videos from ArabCon, another jihadist conference that took place in Dearborn, Michigan this weekend, where you had Rokana, you had all types of representatives and officials there sharing the stage with people who uh wanted to laugh at October 7th and refuse to condemn Hamas, refuse to condemn acts of Islamic terrorism.
	You can check it out.
	Here's the uh here's the tweet.
	Shout out to these two studio for taking a lot of these clips and posting them throughout the weekend.
	But uh yeah, we have uh Rokana, Democrat member of Congress sharing a stage with Hamas supporters this weekend who laughed and cheered when asked if they would condemn October 7th.
	We might as well just download this clip and and show it in closing.
	It's about two minutes long.
	We're just gonna show it to you.
	It's shocking.
	But this is what's happening.
	This is what I'm talking about when I say the Islamic threat.
	Everybody's so focused on talking about Israel and Gaza, they don't want to pay attention to these conferences.
	It was just two weeks ago, right before Charlie Kirk's assassination that I showed you the clips from the Palestinian uh the people's conference for Palestine, where they were encouraging acts of political assassination on US soil and encouraging the sabotage of America's F 35 program and the supply chain.
	Watch this clip.
	Democrat Congressman Roh Kana laughing, mocking people saying that these people are Islamic terrorists or that they're pro-terror radicals.
	They are.
	Why is he trying to gaslight us?
	These people are literally mocking October 7th and saying that they're not gonna condemn an Act of genocide, and they're not gonna condemn an act of Islamic terrorism.
	They are radicals, bro.
	And if you can't see that, then you should probably resign from Congress.
	Let's go ahead and play play this clip.
	Raise your hand if you're a pro-terror radical.
	Do you condemn October 7th?
	No.
	I was just kidding.
	I condemn Israel and the United States and all oppressions and imperial worlds.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	That's very good.
	That was an easy answer.
	And I never ever condemn Palestinian resistance and anyone resistance around the world.
	Those who are here and those who are around the world write it up.
	Raise your hand if you're a pro-terror radical.
	Our political prisoners know this very well.
	Whether it's Walid Daka or Zhaj Abdallah or Khalid Jarad or any one of these people or Sahab Shahra, who have always taught us that the psychological terrain is a primary terrain for targeting.
	Raise your hand if you're a pro-terror radical.
	We got the Palestinian state, or in fact, inshallah, we got the one state solution and Palestinian liberation.
	And then they rolled back the BDS regulations.
	No, whatever passes now stays in place.
	Raise your hand if you're a pro-terror radical.
	And I donated all of the ticket sales to Gaza just to say a big fuck you to all of you Zionists.
	Raise your hand if you're a pro-terror radical.
	And what happened to the five co-founders of that incredible charity, the biggest Muslim charity in the United States in 2001.
	And now it's five co-founders accused of supporting terrorism.
	When in fact, all they did was support Zagat committees that everyone else was supporting.
	Raise your hand if you're a pro-terror radical.
	Um areas and Zionist control fields, like the law in medicine and engineering.
	They go after these people.
	So let's where are the pro-terror radicals?
	Raise your hand if you're a pro-terror radical.
	What happened to the First Amendment?
	You know what happened to the free speech?
	Free speech if you agree with me, but not free speech if you go speak at Arab Khan.
	Come on.
	Trying to justify the Holy Land Foundation terrorism trial.
	Oh, they were just donating to Zakat committees.
	Okay, how many times do I have to break down the fact that all Islamic charities in the United States of America are funding Islamic jihad?
	Zakat, one of the five pillars of Islam, says that one-eighth of all zakat has to go towards funding the global Islamic jihadist movement.
	Oh, they were just funding zakat committees.
	Oh, but yeah, we're not going to mention the fact that one-eighth of all zakat has to go towards funding jihad, right?
	You're gonna leave that little point out.
	Yeah.
	Oh well, thanks for admitting that they were all funding jihad.
	They were all just donating to zakat committees.
	Oh, they were just giving to charity.
	Yeah, what do you think happens when you allow for Islamic groups in America to have 501c3 charities?
	They use one-eighth of all of the funds raised and they donated to Islamic terrorism.
	It's literally a requirement in Islam.
	Look it up if you don't believe me.
	That's why the Holy Land Foundation terrorism trial was the largest terrorism trial in United States history.
	Yes, because all of these Islamic groups got caught donating their tax-deductible charitable donations, which Scott Bessant, our acting IRS director, has the authority to revoke, but for some reason can't get off his ass to revoke.
	Yes.
	Exactly.
	One-eighth of all zakat goes towards funding jihad.
	Hopefully, it starts to make sense to people that yes, we are subsidizing and we are allowing for these Islamic groups in America that call themselves charities to get away with funding Islamic terrorism on US soil.
	The enemy within, as is as President Trump said today when he was addressing our military generals.
	People need to wake up.
	People need to wake up.
	sad music Thank you.
	Totally crazy.
	They're radicalizing everybody.
	And then you have a sitting member of Congress laughing as they're talking about this.
	Oh, it's just free Speech.
	It's okay.
	You're allowed to donate money to fund terrorism.
	It's okay if we have the IRS giving groups that support Hamas and say that uh they want all Americans to die and that they want to create an Islamic caliphate.
	It's okay if we give one eighth of all of that funding to Islamic terrorist groups.
	It's free speech.
	Raise your hand if you're an Islamic terrorist.
	Yeah, it's not funny.
	It's not funny.
	Americans are gonna get killed.
	Americans are going to get killed.
	They love to whitewash it.
	It was just a zakat committee.
	Oh, it was just a zakat.
	What does zakat translate into?
	One of the five pillars of Islam.
	Charity.
	Charitable giving.
	What do they call it when you have an Islamic charity that has a 501c3 status?
	They call it giving your zakat.
	They're admitting it.
	They're admitting there.
	They're literally telling you what they did, but they're using their own terminology to mask what they have actually done, which is terror financing.
	Okay?
	Thank you.
	And then I get called a bigot.
	I get called anti-Muslim.
	I get called an Islamophobe.
	I don't even care anymore.
	I don't care.
	Because I'm trying to save Americans from this threat within that President Trump is talking about.
	This isn't about Israel.
	This is about saving Americans from the Islamification of our country.
	This is about waking Americans up to the invasion of illegal aliens and subverters in our own government, individuals like this guy.
	Nicholas Wadeowitz, who I exposed tonight, working for the U.S. Army research lab, helping illegal aliens avoid detection, helping radical leftists use these ice tracking apps so they can go murder ice agents.
	Wake up.
	There are more important issues to be talking about aside from Israel and Gaza and Hamas and the Palestinians.
	We have a war in our own country right now.
	We have been invaded.
	And if we don't start to actually focus and we don't actually start to regroup as a party and to talk about these other issues that matter, we're gonna lose our country.
	We're gonna lose our country.
	And that's what I'm gonna leave you with tonight.
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