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EP144: Trump Cracks Down On Radical Left Terror Cells

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	Conservative journalist by the name of Laura Loomer.
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	Good evening and welcome to episode 144 of Loomer Unleashed.
	I'm your host, Laura Loomer.
	We are live right now from Washington, DC at the Rumble Studio headquarter office.
	And joining me tonight as my special co-host is my longtime friend and the editor-in-chief of the National Pulse, Raheem Kassam.
	You know, thank you for having me, Laura.
	I've never I've never been in a studio like this, where you're sort of half encouraged to relax and chill out.
	Yeah.
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	All right, Raheem.
	You know, it's kind of a tragic.
	Still a tragic episode, right?
	We're not really exactly gonna be in such a great mood today.
	It's not all gleeful and happy and you know, positive vibes here on Loomer Unleash.
	It's been very dark for our country and also very dark for the conservative movement.
	And I think just you know, if you have humanity and you not and you're not a deranged leftist, it's been a dark week for the entire country.
	So it's important that we have these conversations though about the state of our country, and we focus on the negativity, not because we want to bring people down, but because we have to be honest about the state of affairs in our country and the state of affairs for the right, the state of affairs for our national security, and the state of affairs for free speech.
	And that's why I really wanted you to come on my show today, because I couldn't think of anybody else who really has been there since day one, right?
	When I think about people who have been on the ground as like a day one Trump supporter, people who are familiar with all the players and understand the dynamics and you know who said what 10 years ago, who's saying what now 10 years later, and you know, just kind of this overall toxic climate uh that is our current political landscape here in America.
	And I wanted to have a conversation with you about what the assassination of Charlie Kirk and this increased heightened level of political violence in America means, not just for the MAGA movement, but also for the state of American politics.
	Yeah, it's a lot.
	Um, you know, I'm currently working on an article that is entitled The Assassination of America.
	And it sort of tracks back to when I first went to the Twin Towers.
	It was this it was September of the year 2000.
	And uh we went on a family trip.
	I was about 15 years old.
	Um got to experience, you know, both the the majesty, the innovation, uh, and also a lot of the downsides of somewhere like New York City.
	And but but but you know, fast forward to a year later and seeing those planes fly into the towers and into the Pentagon and so and so forth, and just knowing and feeling and coming To political awareness as a result of all of that.
	And then, you know, sort of, you know, super fast forward to last week when I was on a plane flying over from London when the news came out.
	And, you know, luckily I had Wi-Fi and was able to run the news desk for the national pulse from there.
	And you know, it's so important in those moments to get things right and to be respectful and all of that.
	And only then after, days and days after, right?
	Like right now, like what we're doing, it's sort of a mutual therapy session, actually.
	You know, we've just got a global audience for it.
	Um, that's how I feel like this whole week has been just one big therapy session, because you know, not are we not only are we grieving the assassination of Charlie Kirk, but we're also grieving, as you said, it's it's not just the assassination of Charlie Kirk, it's the assassination of peaceful political discourse in America, it's the assassination of America in a sense, because I mean it's I think that the reason why this is hitting people so hard, and I wasn't super close with Charlie.
	I've known Charlie for 11 years.
	We had kind of you know, a rocky relationship in the sense that I respected him.
	But I mean, look, it's you you you can't deny, and that's not it's not bad mouthing anybody to say this.
	Turning point was more establishment, right?
	Like they were the establishment conservative movement.
	And so if you were more of a rabble rouser or you were more controversial, you weren't exactly like welcomed with open arms at Turning Point.
	I always respected Charlie.
	I got along with Charlie just fine.
	Um, but you know, for as somebody, you know, now examining just kind of the state of affairs in our country post-assassination, it's shocking to me to see how some people are just so incapable of having humanity for those they disagree with.
	And I highlight my past with Charlie, you know, not to disparage anybody, but to show that this has hit me almost like I lost a family member or I lost a really close friend.
	It's been very troubling to me.
	I haven't slept much over this last week.
	I've cried a lot, and I've asked myself, like, why do I feel so sad about somebody who I wasn't very close with?
	And it's because we're not just seeing the death of an innocent man, an innocent husband, and the death of an innocent father and somebody who led a massive political movement in America, but it's like the the death of the it's it's the death of what he stands for, but also the death of civility.
	Yeah.
	And this kind of really sad kind of fearful feeling that people now have that it could be you.
	You could be walking down the street, and it doesn't you don't have to be controversial, and you could I mean, does everybody now have to worry about a sniper, right?
	Waiting out, waiting out, monitoring their every location.
	It's just kind of like the death of civility, the death of the American way, and also the death of peace of mind as a conservative.
	Well, if you don't mind me saying, I I think there would be some people out there that might take issue with Laura Lohman talking about civility.
	You know, you're up in people's faces quite a lot.
	But I've never ever incited violence.
	People can say what they want about me getting up in people's faces, but there's a big difference between being aggressive in your questioning and saying that you are glad somebody's dead.
	But this is but this is you know, this is the point, you know, the the conclusion I was making to my original point about, you know, seeing the trajectory that America's been on, you know, sort of since I came of political uh awareness.
	And that was, you know, that was 9-11.
	That's what kind of got me interested in in defending Western civilization in in the first instance.
	And you know, being in politics, you know, you and I, you know, we just had lunch, right?
	You and I at your amazing restaurant, butters.
	Or if we ever in DC, got to plug the restaurant, amazing restaurant, French cuisine.
	Just I mean, I'm not just saying this because he's my friend.
	Great steak.
	And I'm always complaining that it's so hard to find good food.
	It is so hard to find good food here in Washington, DC.
	In my personal opinion, and I've been to really nice restaurants in DC where you know it's the bill's like 200, 300 at the end of the dinner, and you're like, oh my god, like I paid 200 for that.
	Like you don't feel satisfied.
	But if you really want an exquisite dining experience and you want French cuisine, go to Buttersworth.
	Yeah, I appreciate it.
	I wasn't gonna do the plug, but I appreciate the plug.
	Uh, and everybody's welcome.
	I mean, literally everybody is welcome, right?
	We've had leftists in there, we'd uh we've had John Fetterman in there, we've had a lot of people.
	I mean they have New York Times reporters at the end of the day.
	But um, but you know, we we sit at lunch and and we talk about sort of these things all the time, right?
	Uh prices on our heads, demonization of us, demonetization, especially of you, you know, probably.
	Whether it's worth it, like woman in the world, you know, maybe outside of Saudi Arabia or China.
	Um, and you know, we when I was working uh at for Nigel Farage in UKIP uh in 2015, we were constantly threatened.
	We had a 17-person security detail.
	I was hit in the face uh with a ladder by a green piece activist.
	You know, these these things, these these assaults, these this violence is almost so routine in our lives that we actually don't think twice about it.
	And I know having spoken to some of Charlie's friends since uh the assassination, you know, they were always encouraging him to be safer, to put up you know, bulletproof glass at these events and that sort of thing.
	And he just didn't, he didn't want that glass, that that thing between him and the audience.
	He loved to connect with people.
	And look, that's what I do, right?
	Like when I'm at the restaurant, all I'm doing on an evening is pressing the flesh, going around talking to people, making connections, introducing other people to one another.
	And the attempted assassination of America is is the ability, the inability creates the inability for us to do that anymore.
	That's what these people want.
	They want us to not be able to, they want us to live as miserable lives as they live.
	Yes, that is true.
	And I think it's really important that we are able to talk freely about this threat.
	And what's bothered me is that look, you know, we're both Trump supporters.
	This has been an ongoing issue for the last 10 years in our country.
	I mean, longer than last 10 years, but if you look at the beginning of the Trump administration, the first event that really kicked off the Trump administration was the night before the inauguration.
	I think you and I both attended the deplorable, and you had Antifa terrorists who were trying to put pipe bombs into the ventilation system of the venue of the deplorable, if you recall, uh physically assaulting people, attacking people, bashing people's heads in with bottles, and shattering glass in people's faces, lighting the city on fire, saying that Trump was a fascist.
	And what was written on the bullet casing from the bullet that killed Charlie Kirk?
	Hey, fascists, catch this.
	So fast forward 10 years, and now we're only now having a discussion about designating Antifa as a terrorist organization, or at least seeing action on that front.
	Yesterday, President Trump made the announcement that Antifa's being designated as a terrorist organization.
	But do you find it to be problematic that our own Intel agencies and law enforcement agencies, even under the current Trump administration, are deciding to classify this assassin and this killer as a nihilistic, violent extremist?
	I want to get into a discussion about this because it seems like even now under the current Trump administration, while there is some condemnation of the political violence, people are still kind of tiptoeing around what this really is.
	This is left-wing Democrat, radical left political violence.
	And I'm worried that if we allow for the FBI to call Tyler Robinson or the future, you know, tranny shooter that decides to kill an innocent person, a nihilistic violent extremists, we're taking away from what they truly are.
	And it's a radicalized leftist.
	Yeah, firstly, um their entire network, you know, the SPLC, media masses, all of these groups, have never had problems calling people like me and you right wing extremists, right?
	And have never had a problem putting targets on our heads as a result of that, right?
	And we've we've lived through that.
	Um, there have been times in my life where I've had to have armed security with me, walking down the street as a result of being featured by the SPLC and things like that, right?
	And and you've also had to deal with Islamic threats too for writing, you know, no go uh no-go zones and talking about what's happening in England now.
	I mean, everybody's having these rallies to protest the Islamification of the UK, and you were the one writing books about this 10 years ago.
	10 years ago, right?
	So I bring this up.
	The reason why I have you on is because these new threats, right?
	They're not new.
	Palestinian radicals attacking people, firebombing events, Muslims attacking businesses, threatening people in the streets of America, stabbing people, killing people, shooting people, Antifa calling people fascists.
	This isn't new.
	So what I'm what I'm getting at is that with the watered-down language or the use of semantics to cover up what the threat has always been, the radical left.
	You know, I wonder if it's intentional, if this is deliberate, or if the party itself and the magazine movement that was, you know, always understanding of this radical leftist threat in the beginning and what it represented and who was behind it is now being watered down because after the 2024 election, the GOP has decided to become a big tent party, right?
	Like, are we ever gonna really be able to truly talk about what these threats are and who's behind them if we keep on presenting ourselves as the big tent coalition building party?
	And that's a conversation we need to have.
	Like lines need to be drawn in the sand.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, I suppose the question you're asking is, you know, is there a world in which we think we can coexist with these people?
	And the answer to that is obviously no.
	It's manifestly no.
	Um, the the pushback that somebody might offer you, I'm not doing it, but I'm playing devil's advocate here, uh, that somebody might offer you about the nihilistic stuff is that they're trying to bring on law enforcement on this and and making it overtly left or right wing.
	A lot of these, you know, woolly law enforcement officers that are still in jobs they shouldn't be in in the first instance, can get more on board with uh being active on something like that.
	Now, listen, I I particularly don't back it.
	I think people who are not in favor of enforcing the law and in favor of, you know, look, what we've got is a is a transgender barter Meinhof in America today, is actually what we have, right?
	It's that's that's what I would call it.
	Uh now I understand that I might be a little bit more too firm for that, but I think the very least you can Bada Meinhof complex.
	I mean, this is the this was the communist uh terror cell that operated in Germany.
	And and and you know, this they operate this, these guys operate in the same way.
	They have the this guy was in a cell, right?
	He was in his little Discord chat.
	We know all of this.
	He's not I don't buy this thing, by the way.
	I don't know if you do, but I don't buy this thing like, oh, it's radicalized on the internet.
	And when I heard President Trump saying that the other day in the Oval Office, I was like, radicalized on the internet is radicalized by everything, right?
	Every single part of left-wing American.
	But that's my point, right?
	Is that we're doing ourselves a disservice by allowing for our Intel agencies and our politicians to say, oh, this is a new form of violence.
	It's called nihilistic violent extremism.
	No, this is democrat propaganda.
	Yeah.
	This is democrat radicalization.
	This is what happens when your kids leave your supervision, they grow up in a conservative household, and then they go to school or they start interacting with youth who maybe didn't have the privilege of growing up in a conservative household, and they become radicalized by the left.
	This is not fringe.
	This is not even, this is not even, I wouldn't even say radical.
	This is now mainstream democrat political viewpoint, political philosophy.
	So to them, they don't think it's radical because this is literally what they believe.
	And when we just saw the cancellation of uh Jimmy Kimmel's show, and people are outraged because now the lines have been blurred.
	They think that this that free speech is the same thing as incitement.
	And these so-called democratic values of freedom of expression and free speech, whatever you want to call it, um, the ability to have you know peaceful public discourse, public assembly, you know, everything that falls underneath the First Amendment.
	The Democrats now want to conflate that with incitement.
	And I think that conservatives have become so traumatized by being victimized, right?
	For four and a half to six years cancel culture, like actual hardcore cancel culture, demonization, demonetization, debanking, you name it, total deplatforming on social media.
	They did it to Donald Trump.
	That even conservatives now are willing to roll over and say that violent speech is free speech.
	And we need to be clear that the First Amendment does not protect incitement.
	And the courts have been very clear.
	The Supreme Court has been very clear.
	Incitement is not free speech.
	And what I worry about is that we have seen such an action from our government and such an action from law enforcement in cracking down on these terror cells that have been you know growing in our country since the 50s and the 60s, that people are now kind of numb, right?
	They're numb to the distinction.
	Yeah, I mean I think the law has been very clear on inciting violence.
	And uh there's this, I don't even know why we need to, You know, relitigate that.
	Jimmy Kimmel wasn't fired because he said something nasty or hateful.
	He was fired because his ratings were terrible.
	Well, he's also glorifying violence, which is inciting.
	They've been looking for a reason to get rid of him.
	And I think, you know, a lot of this, a lot of the Democrat online outrage over this is actually they know that their time dominating the airwaves on late night TV and all of that is just they're watching it go out the window.
	You know, and he's the first domino to fall in a lot of them.
	You know, all of this stuff that's going on with the Paramount, Skydance, merger, everything, they're going to lose their grip on the culture.
	I mean, as if they already haven't, but they are fully losing it.
	I don't see anybody, especially after this last week, but anybody this year.
	Did anybody ever come to you this year and went, you know what?
	I think I'm, I think I'm gonna join the Democrat Party of America, right?
	Like nobody's thinking that way in the country.
	Nobody looks at it as a valid future for the country.
	And they did it to themselves.
	They did it with Biden, but they also did it with globalism and how they governed, right?
	They took people's livelihoods and lives away from them.
	Whether you're talking about the ordinary person uh working a 95 job, where you're thinking about America's farmers, uh, where you're looking at, you know, how much it costs to live in a major American city and how terrible it is and unsafe it is.
	Um the Democrats did this to themselves.
	But I think what a lot of your audience will want to know is, Laura, what we can talk about the semantics and we can talk about the language of how we deal with this.
	But what do we actually do, right, to stop these networks?
	And I think you have to go line by line with a fairly and demonetize, you know, the roots.
	American universities have acted as radicalization hubs for the far left for as long as you can remember.
	And I don't care if President Trump had a nice phone call with the provost or the dean at some university or the chairman emeritus or whatever it is, you have to stop that going on on college campuses.
	You have to stop it going on on television, you have to stop it going on on the internet.
	These are the things that we have been afraid to address for so long now and look what's happened.
	If we allow this to go unanswered, then Charlie's death would have been in vain.
	I completely agree.
	And that's why I'm saying it's time for them to stop beating around the bush by using these, you know, semantic terms like, oh, nihilistic violence extremism.
	It's time to actually pinpoint the networks and completely shut them down, not just shut them down by, you know, banning them on social media.
	And no, that's not cancel culture, it's called accountability culture, right?
	There's a big difference because now the left wants to accuse the GOP of promoting cancel culture and being against free speech.
	But there's a big difference between cancel culture, which is rooted in malice, in my opinion, and accountability culture.
	And accountability culture is facing consequences for your violent actions or your illegal actions.
	That's not the same thing as cancel culture, right?
	People who lack a moral compass, who lack a respect for law and order, of course, are gonna play the victim and pretend like their accountability is a form of cancel culture.
	So how are we going to shut these networks down?
	Well, it's time for the Trump administration, in my opinion, to start making lists of every single group that is violating law and order.
	How what is the definition of violating law and order?
	Well, uh aiding and abetting um terrorism, okay, aiding and abetting illegal immigration, supporting illegal activity.
	Uh, you could even be in violation of your 501c3 status by engaging in partisan political activity.
	There are rules.
	That's not free speech.
	You don't have a free speech right as a 501c3 organization to do partisan political activity at the at by getting a tax exempt status.
	And so there are so many examples.
	And we've been writing about it for 10 years.
	I mean, how many articles do you have on your website documenting abuses of 501c3 statuses?
	It's it's literally tax fraud when you think about it, right?
	So people have been committing these crimes for years.
	We have the evidence.
	You could throw the book at these people.
	And the way that we first shut them down is by stripping them of their 501c threat status, excuse me.
	We need to have acting IRS director Scott Besson throw down a gauntlet and say, you know what?
	Incitement to violence and support for radical radical activity is not going to be tolerated, and it's certainly not going to be protected with a tax exempt status.
	I am announcing today that we are stripping, there should be thousands of these groups.
	There's thousands of these organizations.
	They have umbrella organizations, and some of these groups are receiving grants from the federal government because of their 501c3 status.
	And some of them are receiving grants from the Organizations themselves that are receiving grants from the federal government.
	And so aside from obviously doing criminal investigations with the law enforcement agencies and the DOJ and having their tax exempt statuses stripped of them, what else do you see as a viable means of the Trump administration targeting and you know pinpointing these terror networks?
	Yeah, well, look, you do have to sort of audit the left, right?
	You need to get an idea of how the money flows around.
	And we've been terrible at this for years and years.
	We just sort of let them do it.
	And whether it's the SPLC or whether it's media matters or any of it, right?
	There are not just thousands.
	Tens of thousands of thousands groups around the uh around the country.
	And a lot of them getting foreign funding as well at the same time, by the way.
	And that should be um I I would prescribe that immediately, uh, having having foreign money going into your polit into political causes.
	I mean, all these anti uh anti-illite, all these pro-illegal immigration groups, you know, the la razas of the world and the caravans and all of it, right?
	And then you know you look at care, all of it.
	I mean, it's it's a massive, massive undertaking.
	Uh, but without that, I'm afraid I don't think you do have a viable future for the country because they will they will burn it down at any juncture that gets.
	I mean, they tried to don't forget they tried to do it.
	They tried to do it during COVID, during the first Trump administration.
	They've been trying to do it for decades, they tried to do it under Biden.
	Remember how much people ordinary Americans were suffering of that.
	They just hate this country, they hate everything it stands for.
	So I know a lot of people at home will be sitting back watching this and going, oh, it's very difficult conversation.
	You're, you know, you you're talking on the fringes on the peripheries of free speech.
	Uh, we're not.
	Uh, and I can give you examples of why that is not the case.
	After January 6th, people who were not there, who were just saying, hey, it wasn't a big a deal as it's being made out to be, they lost their ability to fly TSA pre.
	You know, they stripped these people just for tweets they were making, uh, and they weren't there, they didn't commit any criminal activity, they weren't involved with it, they weren't financially uh implicated in it at all.
	That is where you are taking free you're taking free speech head on, and you're infringing on the First Amendment.
	What we're talking about is going after criminal networks that are actually radicalizing people in this country.
	If you want your son or daughter to go to university and get radicalized, shame on you.
	Uh, but I don't want that for the future of America.
	I've seen it happen in Britain already.
	So, aside from cracking down on these tens of thousands of organizations that do have this 501c3 status, what are some other defunding mechanisms aside from perhaps enforcing more accountability measures at the university level by denying or revoking federal funding?
	I mean, what do you see as the financial framework for de-banking?
	And I hate to say it, but these terms were used as counterterrorism measures.
	It's important for people to know that these terms were never meant to be malicious.
	They became malicious after the Democrat Party, really, if you want a history lesson on cancel culture.
	Cancel culture was invented as a counter-terrorism uh measure after 9-11.
	These tools were utilized and developed by the law enforcement agencies like the CIA and the FBI and DHS to counter Islamic terror cells in America and to identify their recruitment networks on social media platforms and to debunk them so that they were not able to fundraise off of terrorist propaganda.
	That is what cancel culture was invented for and the purpose of cancel culture and things like debanking and deplatforming.
	Now it's been weaponized by the radical left because they believe that conservatives are terrorists.
	We are not violent people, but they believe that because of who we support for president Donald Trump, that we are terrorists.
	They've said so themselves.
	They believe that the Trump supporters who attended J6 are domestic terrorists.
	We said that we saw the FBI directors say that white Christian men are the biggest terror threat in our country, refuse to uh say that Antifa was a terrorist organization when he testified before Congress.
	And so that being said, how can we normalize things like cancel culture and debanking and deplatforming for their true purposes again and educate the masses on the true intention and purpose of these tools that were, like I said, created in the aftermath of 9-11 to combat terrorism.
	And that's what we're here to talk about today.
	Trump cracking down on radical left terror cells, because that's what these people are.
	They actually are terrorists.
	Yeah, look, I I don't like using the that terminology just because I think it's so toxified now based on you know what they have um what they've done together.
	That's my point is that nobody wants to use that, nobody wants to use these terms anymore because they were made toxic because of what the Democrats did to us.
	But these were, it's important that we don't erase history.
	We cannot have revisionist history.
	The terms like deep banking and deplatforming were supposed to be pro-national security, counterterrorism initiatives.
	That's a fact.
	Yeah.
	Look, there were lots of people at the time that said, you know, if we allow law enforcement to do this, they'll turn it on the conservatives one day.
	And they were right.
	You know, we have to give them their dues.
	They were absolutely right.
	But I um I did hope that we would be better at pushing back against it.
	And we as a movement as a side, we just were not.
	We were not playing any, you know, any offense at the time, quite frankly.
	Um, how do we do it now?
	Well, honestly, what is all this stuff really?
	It's basic law enforcement, is what it actually is.
	You know, the idea that you can have especially look, the foreign element of this is what really, really upsets me.
	The idea that you can have these foreign professors and foreign money flowing into college campuses, and and Mrs. Miggins down the road sends her granddaughter, you know, whatever money to help go to this college because she thinks it's gonna help her go out and get a job and whatever, and she comes back with a uh, you know, a nose ring and pink hair and all of that, or she's flying the Palestinian flag of jihad and all of this.
	I mean, you would have you would expect, I mean, look back, America.
	Look back to the to the men of the 20s and 30s and 40s and 50s.
	And if you think that you can say, look those men dead in the eye and say, oh, yeah, you would have tolerated that the same way we're tolerating it.
	If you could, if you could actually think that way, there's something wrong with you.
	Um, I think that this country was built off the backs of people who were willing to take the tough decisions, you know, and get stuck in where it needed to happen.
	There's a reason that I was attracted to America, not just because you know, my country has become uh uh an Islamification uh cesspool, right?
	But actually, America still stood for something.
	When you used to come out at Dulles Airport, when I used to land on a plane from London, you would see a slew of American flags.
	The first thing you ever saw, no other country behaves like that.
	It's amazing.
	It used to be a it used to be proud of itself, and it didn't shy away from the tough decisions.
	This is a very tough decision you face.
	You have to make the right choice.
	I agree.
	And I hate to use those terms as well, and I'm sure that it's gonna be clipped, and people will say, Oh, yeah, you know, Laura Loomer says she wants to normalize our.
	I suspect you did that on purpose for the clips.
	Well, look, I mean, they I don't care about, you know, if people want to talk about this, I've been de-banked and I've been de-platforms, and I know what it's like to have it used against me and be treated like a terrorist.
	Facebook literally designated me as a terrorist.
	Remember?
	Remember when Facebook said that I was a dangerous individual and they put me in the same classification?
	Because these were counterterrorism initiatives.
	This was a tool developed by the CIA and the FBI and DHS to be used against actual Islamic terrorists and groups like ISIS and Al-Qaeda and you know, the Taliban, whatever you want to call it.
	These were supposed to be tools utilized to crack down on actual terror cells.
	And yes, you know, regardless of what you think about the FBI, the FBI has identified the fact that we have Hamas and Hezbollah terror cells all across our country.
	These people came across our border.
	Tom Homan told me about two million of these people, jihadis came undetected.
	They are living in our country, sleeper cells.
	We don't even know.
	We don't even know these people are.
	Over two million jihadists living in America that could be activated like that.
	The FBI has identified ISIS in all in all 50 states.
	We know that during the um Obama administration and also during the last Trump administration, there were reports that came out that showed that Antifa was training with ISIS.
	They were traveling aboard abroad to uh places like Syria and doing weapons training with them.
	So we know that these groups like Antifa are engaged in terrorist activity and they are trying to be be terrorists.
	They're not just you know affiliated with terrorists, they are actively trying to uh mimic and and replicate terrorist ideology because you wouldn't be traveling abroad to places like Syria and Afghanistan to do training with actual Islamic militants unless you truly wanted to have a militancy uh and and your own communist militias here on the ground in American cities.
	Yeah, yeah, that's right.
	And it and it really what upsets me as well uh is uh I I keep saying I'm upset.
	What I mean to say is I'm angry, but I've learned to deal with my anger as I'm getting older.
	So it manifests itself in different ways now than it's that a sign for me as I get older because I'm like, God, one of these days I gotta get a grip on my temper.
	One of these days I gotta get a grip on my temper.
	Is it does it get better or does it get worse?
	I got a great weed, I got a great weed dealer for you.
	Yeah, It can't be right down.
	No, the um the thing that the other thing that upsets me is some of the other reaction that we've had from the right about this online in the last week.
	Um and and you know, I I didn't know I wouldn't say, you know, Charlie and I were best mates, but we knew each other fairly well.
	We'd run into each other all the time.
	I would do a show all the time.
	And I know what he would want is for everybody to kind of get back to work, right?
	And and get back to spreading uh the gospel and and his uh, you know, his philosophy, the way that he saw the world.
	And I think that's right.
	I mean, we all took a lot of lessons from Charlie, even though he was younger than us.
	Um, but there are some people online right now and some big names, quite frankly, who are behaving in such disgusting fashion.
	And I'll be the one to say it so that you don't have to deal with the blowback.
	Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, and I'm gonna say it, Nick Fuentis, because I find his reaction to be disingenuous.
	This is a guy who, you know, I know, I know him personally, I know what it's like to be deplatformed.
	I was sympathetic at first because I know what it's like to be viciously targeted and you know, viciously silenced for your speech.
	But you don't get to go around and you know, tell your supporters to bring all their firepower, like direct quote to Charlie Kirk and drive him off of every single college campus till he can no longer show his face and no longer feel safe showing his face and say that he's not a real Christian and then come around and pretend like you're not one of the mean people in this country who who has created these, you know, inbred individuals on the right who are running around screeching about the Jews, it's the Jews, the Jews who are responsible for everything.
	So there's gotta be some accountability.
	Whether Nick is actually, you know, being genuine in his so-called newfound compassion for Charlie Kirk, I don't know.
	But there's no denying that people like Nick and people like Candace and people like Tucker have created a class in this country that is obsessed with not just talking about Jews, but talking about this delusional concept in their mind of this omnipresent is is Israeli influence that they think controls every single aspect of our society.
	It is absolutely delusional.
	I mean, I'm Jewish, and I just want to know when I get to cash in my J card to you know get the 10 years of my life that was stolen from me back.
	Am I gonna get back pay for all the years of demonetization and all the years of debanking?
	When you and I were just talking over lunch about how I still don't even have my social media accounts back, right?
	So it's just ridiculous.
	And it's just such an insult to people who actually are capable of having intellectual conversations.
	And for those of you who may not know what we're talking about, we're talking about Candace Owens and and uh Tucker Carlson's new theory that uh Israel, BB Netanyahu came up with this theory and he decided that that that Charlie Kirk was turning into Nick Fuentes, so he decided to send a Mossad assassin and he put a bullet in his neck, and that's what happened, you guys.
	They killed him.
	Israel killed Charlie Kirk.
	I mean, that's what Tucker Carlson was.
	That's the part that's gonna get kicked.
	That's that's what they want you to believe.
	Israel, the Jews, Shlomo, they killed him.
	It's like it's ridiculous.
	We actually know who killed Charlie Kirk.
	His name is Tyler Robinson, and he looks to be a radical leftist with a tranny uh furry porn addiction who also um either was acting either independently, but it doesn't look like he was acting independently of his trans lover,
	but it looks like the motive of his um assassination of Charlie Kirk was because he was engaged in a romantic relationship with a tranny, and he thought that Charlie Kirk posed a threat to the trans community with what he called hate that can't be negotiated with.
	We already know who the shooter is, and it's just insane to me that people like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens are making it out to be some conspiracy theory, as if the shooters on the run, you know, like the shooter was still on the run and we didn't know and they still hadn't captured the guy,
	then maybe I would be entertaining the idea that not that it was Mossad or Israel, but that it could have been like some kind of foreign professional hit squad, or that there may be foreign influence or some kind of like paramilitary trained individual who had experience in getting away from law enforcement.
	But the guy, the guy was turned in by his family members.
	They they the father confirmed that the rifle that was used belonged to the grandfather.
	Yeah.
	Where's the conspiracy here?
	Yeah, but I think it was Netanyahu who built the rifle.
	Oh, okay.
	That's that's what it was.
	No, listen.
	Um, I I have particular I take particular umbrage with with people like Candace Owens, not least because we have some personal uh issue.
	Oh, you're a mason.
	You're everybody knows that National Polis is a massive publication for him.
	But look, people should know.
	Everybody knows it's Massad, you're Massad, you're Mossad.
	You're not really, you're not really, you're not really like uh, you know, from a Muslim background.
	You're actually like just a plant Raheem, and you're actually just like a Mossad spy, and you're you're here as a foreign agent to destabilize us with Zionist propaganda.
	I mean, I know that for those watching, you're gonna think, what the fuck is she saying?
	This sounds crazy.
	I wish that I was making this up, but this is literally what's coming out of the mouth of Candace Owens.
	Today she actually accused the New York Post of being a Mossad publication.
	She said that.
	She said that it's a masab publication because they wanted to get to the root of whether these smears against people like Bill Ackman or these smears against people at Turning Point USA were true.
	This idea that Charlie Kirk was bribed with 150 million dollars from Bibi Netanyahu.
	And because he refused to take the money, Bibi sent a Mossad assassin and they shot him in the throat.
	It's it's really sad, it's really pathetic.
	But to be honest with you, I've always disliked her.
	I've always found her particularly odious individual and a self-promoter and nothing, nothing particularly interesting to say.
	What she does is she takes people down a rabbit hole, right?
	She she goes and she lures rational people down stupid rabbit holes in order to physio the movement and in order to make money for herself.
	And I just, if you think Candace Owens is a truth teller, uh, then I've got a bridge to sell you.
	If you think Candace Owens has the future of uh, you know, America and the American writer.
	Yeah, no, I do.
	And you know, I don't need to, I don't need to get into the personal stuff, right?
	I mean, if you really want me to, but I don't really, I don't like it.
	Well, I think that we should get into the person.
	Let me all right, fine, but let me finish this point first, right?
	So, so I I think people need to understand is when I say this stuff, I don't like BB Netanyahu.
	I couldn't give a crap about Bibi Netanyahu.
	I really couldn't.
	I'm sorry.
	Maybe maybe he'll send a shooter for me now, right?
	But but I don't either.
	Look, I I don't have a problem with him.
	I don't think he's in a, I don't think that he's sending hit squads to America.
	I mean, look, I think that he's been put in a very tough situation with what happened October 7th, and it's gotta be really hard being the prime minister of Israel surrounded by hostile Muslim neighbors.
	I mean, it's very hard being the leader of the only Jewish state in the Middle East when everybody around you wants to kill you, and you're constantly being gaslipped by Muslims.
	I have sympathy with both the Israeli people and the people living in Gaza.
	Like I have sympathy on both sides of that.
	I don't particularly have any interest in our involvement in that, quite frankly.
	I don't want to get involved in it, quite frankly.
	Um, but here's here's the deal.
	I think the reason that people go down that kind of Candace Owens rabbit hole on this stuff is they're afraid of of accepting the truth.
	They're afraid of accepting the truth that on their watch, you know, the founders left America to you, and on your watch, this stuff has happened.
	I think people are shy and nervous and and upset about accepting that they have failed, that actually in their country this kind of radicalization is going on.
	That in on their college campuses, in their streets, in their neighborhoods, in their communities, their children are dressing up like this.
	Their children are involved with degeneracy, their children are going out and shooting other people for their political views and for the political speech.
	And I think all of that other stuff is a distraction, and it's particularly malicious distraction.
	There is nothing you could lure me into a conversation about Israel and Palestine or whatever.
	There is nothing that you could say about me that I be like, oh, he's taking money for Barry's.
	I haven't.
	I haven't.
	I never have, and I never will.
	But what the uh what the conclusion that I'm coming at from all of this, and it's especially Candace for me, because she's so craven about the way she does this.
	Is she is it's malicious the way she does it.
	On the on the blood of somebody who gave her a chance in life.
	Charlie was the one who looked at her and said, Okay, I'm gonna give you a chance.
	And it would be a good one.
	And I was there, I was the one person that was there when it was.
	It happened in the back and it happened at a Zionist conference.
	That's what's so funny about Candace Owens and her whole career.
	I was there from the very beginning.
	I I knew the I knew what happened with Candace Owens from the very beginning.
	Okay, Candace Owens used to ask me for advice, really.
	She used to say, Oh, you know, how do you think that uh I should go about building my social media platform?
	Candace Owens and I used to hang out.
	I used to live in Westchester, New York when I uh when I worked for Project Veritas, and she was dating a guy named Ryan, long time, long time boyfriend.
	I'm leaving those comments for you.
	He was a nice guy, I will say.
	Like I went out to dinner with her and her um, you know, her ex Brian several times, and you know, she used to tell me, Oh, he's so amazing, I'm gonna marry him.
	And um I guess then I guess uh yeah, so I'll tell the whole story here just so everybody can see how disingenuous it is.
	And so then um we ended up getting invited.
	I was I had always been invited to the Horror Witz um Restoration Weekend conference.
	I believe you've gone to Restoration Weekend as well.
	And uh, for those who don't know what restoration weekend is, it was a conference that was hosted by David Horowitz, who has since passed away tragically, and it was hosted at the Breakers in Palm Beach, and it was like I would say a Zionist, but you know, not entirely Zionist, but uh it was like a unification conference between people who are invested in saving the West and also preserving um Israel and combating Islamic jihad.
	The commonality, the commonality bombs was to talk about Islam.
	That's why I went.
	So it was a counter-Jihad conference.
	And so, you know, I would say that, you know, it was probably better, but most I would say that everybody who attended was a Zionist for the most part.
	Like everybody who is an attendee and there's nothing wrong with it.
	I hate when people, you know, they get these facial expressions.
	To be a Zionist means that you believe Israel has a right to exist.
	That's what it means.
	That's the definition of Zionism.
	To be a Zionist means you do not believe that Israel should be nuked off the face of the world.
	Yeah, but I don't know that everybody that attended did necessarily believe that.
	I think some people all genuinely apathetic on that.
	Perhaps, and that's fine if we can disagree on that, but I would say it was largely.
	I think it was a counter-Jihad conference.
	I would say it's a counter-Jihad, very pro-America pro-Israel conference.
	I mean, he was certainly pro-Israel.
	I mean, he was he was he was and we don't.
	I'm not saying that I guess I did say everybody who attended is a Zionist, but most there's probably some people, but for the commonality, the reason why there were so many people there who were pro-Israel is because one of the main issues of discussion was you know, counter-Jihad initiatives.
	Candace gets invited to this event.
	Okay.
	Mind you, at that time she was just known as Red Pill Black.
	Like her videos had gone viral.
	She was a Democrat.
	Her boyfriend, Ryan, was the one who really kind of like helped her write her scripts for her videos and helped her go viral as a conservative sensation.
	Paul Joseph Watson, who you and I both know, uh started to platform her.
	And as a result, you know, she went viral.
	The conservatives love their token minorities, right?
	They love the fact that, oh wow, here's a young black woman.
	So she was like the token black woman, really.
	That's why she got invited to this conference, right?
	There was nothing exceptional about her.
	She just got invited because she was a black woman speaking out against Black Lives Matter.
	Yeah.
	You know, she's she's loud.
	You know, she's but she was a loud, yeah, conversational black young woman who was saying everything that these GOP donors wanted to hear from black people about the left.
	So they were like, wow, this could be the next conservative rising star.
	So they paid for her to fly out, and she was on my flight, and we were talking, and she's like, Oh, you know, I've never been to this conference before.
	And I had been several times before because you know, I had worked for O'Keefe and I had gone as the comms director to help him also fundraise and do his communications at this event.
	It's a big event for donors to meet with people and to fund projects.
	So I'm there and Charlie Kirk is there, and I'm walking down the hallway, and Candace is walking with me.
	And all of a sudden, Charlie comes up and he starts talking to Candace.
	And I swear to God, if you go back and you can look on X, I'm the one who broke the story.
	He goes, Wow, you're honestly so incredible.
	He's like, we need to have you a turning point.
	And he looks at the guy who he was there with.
	I think it was like that um that guy, the William guy, the older guy who used to travel around with Charlie.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I think he's since passed away.
	I think he had cancer at a heart attack.
	But there was like this older gentleman named uh named Bill, forget his last name.
	And he used to travel around with Charlie.
	He was one of like the first people there at Turning Point USA.
	Well, Bill pulled Candace aside with Charlie, and Charlie then was having a private conversation with Bill, and I was standing right next to him when he had it, and he said, Oh, what should we do?
	What do you think?
	Like 77,000 a year?
	Like that was a number, right?
	And so I don't think that she was really making a lot of money at the time.
	And the initial number that they threw out was, What if we gave you 77,000 a year and you came on as a turning point ambassador and you came to work with us?
	And then she was shocked.
	She was like, Oh, wow, you know, that would be so amazing.
	And then from that moment on, they were like, deal, and they shook on it.
	Well, I was there and I didn't realize that it was supposed to be private.
	So I tweeted it and I said, Oh, Candace Owens is joining Turning Point USA.
	And then shortly after that, Candace joined Turning Point.
	I was there from the very beginning of when Candace joined Turning Point USA.
	It was at a counter-Jihad conference hosted by a Zionist Jew while Charlie Kirk was there to get money and raise money from Zionist Jews in attendance by talking about the work that he was doing on college campuses to raise awareness about hatred for Israel in America.
	That's true.
	That is a true story.
	And that's how Candace Owens got hired.
	Then shortly after she started working with Turning Point, she started working with Prager U, Dennis Prager, another Zionist Jew who gave her a platform.
	She made millions of dollars working with Prager U, became an even bigger sensation.
	And when she was working for Charlie before she started working with Prager U, is when Kanye West saw her video and said, I love the way that Candace Owens thinks.
	I get a text message from Candace at like 10 o'clock in the morning, the day that he did that.
	And she was like, Oh my God, this is amazing.
	Thanks so much for supporting me.
	You know, you're one of the few people that actually supported me along this way.
	And then she completely changed because, well, she started going around with Kanye West.
	And then her and Charlie Kirk flew out to California and they went to TMZ headquarters with Charlie Kirk, right?
	That was a whole nother thing.
	So then she started funding Blacksa.
	And I don't know if Kanye funded it, but she ended up getting, you know, large contributions from Lee Hanley, Lee and Alley Hanley, and all these Palm Beach donors.
	Again, people who funded pro-Zionist causes on college campuses and within this movement.
	They were attendees of the Restoration Weekend conference.
	So why do I bring this up?
	Because Candace Owens is a product of Zionism.
	Whether she wants to believe it or not, Candace Owens is a product of Zionist Jews.
	Her entire career is the invention of Zionist Jewish money.
	Whether she wants to be grateful for that or whether or not, you know, she wants to push her own form of revisionist history.
	Candace Owens was created by Jews.
	She was.
	She was a nobody living in uh Westchester County, or you know, she was living in, I think like Stanford, Connecticut, with her boyfriend.
	And then she she met Charlie and then went to Turning Point.
	And it was kind of bizarre because you know, I had gone out with her and her her, her, her longtime boyfriend.
	And then before I knew it, she was engaged to this guy.
	And I was like, wait, I thought you guys, you know, I thought that you were still dating your boyfriend.
	So that was another weird story, right?
	Like it's this whole engagement with George Farmer.
	Um, while I thought that she was still in a relationship.
	Like maybe she broke up and I'm mistaken, I don't know.
	But from my understanding, she was very much involved with her longtime boyfriend when she met when she met George.
	So I'm I'm just bringing this up for context because her life has drastically, you know, taken a taken a massive shift.
	So she got all this enormous fame.
	She had a show, she made millions of dollars.
	Let's talk about Ben Shapiro too.
	You know, she made all this money working for Ben Shapiro.
	Ben Shapiro gave her a multi-oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	So another Zionist Jew who used to speak at Restoration Weekend.
	Again, it all goes back to the David Horror.
	It's funny.
	Her whole life is a projection.
	It's projection.
	She is a product of Jews.
	Candace Owens literally was invented by Jews.
	She was invented by Jews.
	I'm not like this is not an exaggeration.
	Her name before was Red Pill Black.
	So for a woman that wants to go around blaming the Jews for everything, I've never seen her once say thank you to the Jews who invented her.
	And yes, she owes everything to Zionist Jews because Candace Owens would not even have been accepted or platformed into mainstream conservative politics had it not been for Jewish money, and had it not been for Zionist Jews who paid for her to attend the um Restoration Weekend conference.
	And David Horowitz, since Candace Owens wants to talk about people when they're dead, so they can't speak for themselves.
	Uh, the horror is restoration um uh Restoration Weekend and Freedom Center, they wanted Candace Owens to return the freedom award that they gave her because they were so disgusted before David Horowitz passed away, they were so disgusted with the shit that was coming out of her mouth about Jew, this, Israel, this.
	So that is the history of Candace Owens, and it is kind of ironic when you think about it, because for a woman who wants to like massively.
	And then she, and then she met George.
	She was, she was, she was dating a longtime boyfriend for I don't know, seven, eight years.
	She wrote about it in her book, how she got some mold infection, and her whole face was ravaged by some disease.
	And she was laying in a hospital bedroom, and this guy Ryan, who she had been dating long term, took care of her when her face was getting eaten alive by by mold spurs.
	You can go read about it.
	She's posted photos online about it.
	Why do I bring this up?
	Because it wasn't until she started dating this guy, George, who, for my understanding, is a Catholic, right?
	She was never really religious.
	She was on the Joe Rogan show talking about how she was never religious.
	And her whole identity changed when she started um dating, or I guess, you know, it was just kind of like a rapid engagement to this guy named George Farmer, who is going to be the heir to a billi like multi-billion dollar fortune.
	So I don't understand.
	Like if Charlie Kirk is her friend, why does she find the need to go and make these episodes online?
	Which she's clearly monetizing, you know, she's making millions of dollars per year from her YouTube channel.
	All the monetization.
	I mean, if you get a video on YouTube that gets a million views, you get a check for five to twenty thousand dollars, depending on your advertising deal with YouTube.
	So think about all the episodes that she's made since Charlie's died and just add all that money up.
	Is she gonna give that money to Erica Kirk?
	Is she gonna give that money to uh to Turning Point USA?
	Why who is she doing this for?
	Why why doesn't she just want to be graceful and and silent and work to if she really believes that there's some kind of conspiracy about Charlie Kirk's death?
	Why doesn't she just want to work quietly with law enforcement and with the family?
	Why does she have to be the center of attention?
	She's got so much money.
	I suspect she's gonna need some money for the Macron soon.
	You know the French president and his wife suing you, you know, she but she might need to be amassing as much money as as she possibly can.
	Look, I I think it's it's the it's the it's the lack of civility on her behalf.
	It's the lack of, you know, your friend has just been assassinated.
	You know, take a step, be prayerful.
	He's not even buried yet.
	We haven't even a funeral yet.
	And she's I I don't have a problem with people wanting to get to the bottom of things, but she's inventing things.
	She she has these fevered dreams about Jewish people in her lives.
	And clearly it's because she feels guilty about taking so you know, she might have listened to too many Nation of Islam podcasts or something that she now feels too guilty about taking money from the Jews, and that's why she's doing this to kind of you know as a recompense for all of this.
	And listen, she realized she doesn't need the Jew money anymore, right?
	Because now she's got that old English money.
	So that's a whole different, a whole different funding stream for her.
	Well, if she doesn't need the money, why is she continuing to push us?
	It's kind of bizarre, don't you think?
	I think it's I think I think she's probably having to employ some very expensive lawyers right now, is the problem.
	Well, what's whatever what is it?
	What do they say in sickness and death?
	What is it with her?
	She's got a husband, right?
	She's got a sugar daddy.
	Why doesn't her sugar daddy pay for her legal fees?
	I don't know what he's doing.
	Oh, who's who's not trying to be derogatory, but it's not like you know, the guy's got a couple million dollars.
	We're talking, I mean, you know, George.
	Why don't I?
	And I don't know the guy.
	Like, I've heard he's a nice person.
	I've heard from people that you know he's kind of quiet.
	I don't really know.
	I mean, you're you know, you're making faces in the corner.
	I haven't really had many, you know, encounters with him.
	He was a bit too nice to me, put it that way.
	What do you mean?
	Well, George was uh George was look back in England, he was sort of known as at least sexually uh curious, you know, and and when he was over here, and there were a couple of nights out that he was there.
	Where?
	You know, we were at the uh uh Trump Hotel one night.
	And what year was this?
	Oh gosh.
	Should have been uh 18, I think, maybe 2018.
	And you know, he was he was like weirdly flirtatious with me to the point where he's like handsy and like you know, right up here.
	And he tried to say he tried to kiss you?
	It certainly felt that way to me.
	I mean, it certainly felt that way enough for me to push him away, right?
	Um What do you mean by handsy?
	Like when you say, I mean, and look, like we're having an honest conversation here.
	I think it's important for people to hear this, but what do you mean by handsy?
	You know, he's he's he's he's trying for you know are you?
	I mean, just say it.
	I mean, it's a it's not a it's not exactly a family-friendly show.
	Uh trying to build up some suspense here, right?
	We'll teach you how to do television.
	No, he's trying to He's trying to grab my crotch at one point.
	And you know, I don't know if he thought he was joking.
	Did he actually grab it?
	I mean, he he was like there, and I just sort of and like people saw this, by the way.
	It wasn't just me and him in a room.
	Um, and I don't know if he thought he was being funny or if he thought we had like a a but it wasn't funny and it wasn't cool and it was weird.
	Did this happen more than once?
	Yeah, so those were two separate occasions.
	But he tried to grab your dick.
	No, one time that, and the other time when he was sort of leaning in, right?
	And was he drunk?
	Yeah, very much so.
	Very much so.
	Um, yeah, it was very rare for people to not be drunk.
	But you run a restaurant, like you're around drunk people all the time, people drink at your place.
	So is that like you know, but is that like a proclivity of like do men generally like engage in homosexual activity or um have homosexual tendencies when they get drunk, or would you say that this is kind of abnormal?
	Well, it's certainly abnormal for me.
	Um, but I have seen it before.
	I have, you know, I've experienced it before with other people too, and I've seen it happen to other people.
	Over here, you're just so irresistible.
	The gays love me.
	The gays love me, the Jews love me, they all love me.
	You're just so you're just so dashing that accent and the blue and the well, I George has the same accent, so I'm not sure that was what was doing it for him, but I don't know.
	I know just I don't know what his motivation was.
	I don't know if he was just drunk or you'd think he was being funny, but it was weird and it was creepy to me, right?
	And I've tweeted about it several times, and the funny thing is they've never denied it.
	You know, they've never come back and said that never happened.
	Why did you tweet?
	Like, what did you what did you say?
	I mean, I guess we don't have the tweets right now, we could probably find them, but yeah you recall like what exactly what you tweeted.
	Yeah, I said George tried to kiss me and George tried to grab my cock.
	And you tagged her.
	I tagged her, attacked Cadice.
	And what did she say?
	She blocked me immediately.
	That was it.
	She blocked you.
	She just blocked me immediately.
	Yeah.
	She didn't deny it or say she was gonna do you.
	No, and he's never denied it either.
	You know, these these tweets are shared by lots of people nowadays.
	And look, I understand some people are that way, okay?
	Like she might be that way too.
	There may be some swinging back and forth going on.
	I don't know.
	I don't know what it's about.
	But their situation is strange to me.
	Interesting.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, you know, it's it's interesting when you dive into the backgrounds of these people because you know, she loves to talk about Brigitte McCron and she loves to talk about how she's gonna expose everybody.
	But you know, it's interesting.
	Like a lot of people don't know this because they weren't there since day one, like you and I were.
	But I was there.
	I was literally there when she got her deal from Charlie Kirk.
	Charlie came over and he's like, Oh, you know Candace, right?
	And I was like, Oh, yeah, you know, we were just on the same flight together.
	And he I think the number, if I recall correctly, was like 77,000.
	It wasn't anything crazy, but but then she got on board and obviously, you know, started making more money with them, and then she started Blex it.
	And then when Kanye West promoted her, she blew up and turning point had to pay her more money.
	But but this she is a product of Jews, and it's important for us to remember this when she's going around spreading blood libel.
	I remember too, I was in Israel.
	I was in Israel, and I was at the embassy ceremony with Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens.
	I was there, I was literally there in Jerusalem at an event hosted by the RJC, and Sheldon Adelson was there.
	He was very ill at the time, and they flew him out on a special plane that could, you know, uh be prepared if you know he had some kind of a medical emergency.
	He was not doing well, he was on oxygen, he was in a wheelchair.
	I have a photograph with him.
	Um, but I was there at this private event, and they said that Sheldon Adelson really wanted to be there to see the official embassy get moved.
	So Sheldon Adelson hosted this huge big event for RJC, Miriam Adelson was there, Charlie Kirk was there, I was there, Candace Owens was there.
	And it's so funny watching her now try to pretend like she, you know, oh, is has always been so skeptical of Israel and Jews.
	She was there telling everybody what a supporter she was of Israel when she testified in front of Congress and was accused of of being a white supremacist.
	Remember, she said it was my greatest honor to travel all 18 hours on a flight to go to Israel for the embassy move.
	And I am a supporter of Jews, like her entire career has been using Jews to get on top, using Jews to surpass her challenges, using Jews to fund her career only to turn around and stab them in the back.
	It's really shameless behavior.
	It's shameful.
	Maybe she got so much Jewish money originally that she became the ultimate Jew, and what's the ultimate Jew?
	Is a self-hating Jew.
	Yeah, maybe that's what it is.
	Yeah.
	Maybe she maybe she became so much Jewish money that she became a Jew herself, and most Jews hate themselves these days.
	I think I figured out Candace Owens.
	Um, but but spoiler a lot.
	Spoiler alert.
	Candace Owens is Jewish, yes, exactly.
	But it's not just Candace, is it?
	Uh the that we're talking about.
	I mean, there are people, and I think look, the vice president put out.
	We're gonna we're gonna pull a candice.
	We're gonna need you to provide DNA evidence that you're not only a woman, but you're also not a Jew.
	Um, the vice president came out with a tweet yesterday that I thought was very important and impactful.
	And he sort of just said, look, for all of the people who are feeling angst and anger and and and they have all this energy and looking to something to do with it, it's just remember they haven't buried the guy yet.
	You know, that's it.
	Well, that's what's so fucked up about this whole thing is that Charlie Kirk is sitting on ice right now.
	Right.
	You know, I've spoken to people from Turning Point.
	He's literally on ice.
	It's not generally speaking, you can't really keep a body out of the ground this long.
	I mean, it's been over a week.
	It's been over, well, it was like Wednesday, right?
	That was the day, so over a week now.
	So it's been over a week since Charlie Kirk.
	And from my understanding is the private funeral for the family is on Saturday.
	And um, I don't know if you're going to the private funeral or not, but the private funeral is on Saturday and the memorial for the public is on Sunday.
	But from my understanding, from what I've been told, his casket is not going to be there on Sunday because they have to they have to get him in the ground.
	I mean, a body can't really be out that long.
	So the fact that it's not like she's doing this after the fact, like, you know, oh, Charlie's been dead a year, and uh, there's a lot of questions that I have about his death and his assassination.
	It's immediate.
	It's like immediate.
	Yeah, it was.
	And it's it'd be like like I said before.
	One thing if the shooter was on the run, I would understand the conspiracy.
	Sure.
	Not the massad blaming and you know the attacks on Bibi Netanyahu, but I could understand people like coming up with conspiracy theories that the shooter was still on the run.
	But he admitted it.
	He admitted it in text messages, he admitted it to his father.
	He admitted it to his tranny, truon, furry lover, yeah, whatever you want to call it.
	He apparently admitted it to over 20 people in Discord.
	Yeah.
	I think I think if your first if the first thing that you do when when somebody like I just want to know, what's the conspiracy here?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I I read What is the conspiracy?
	I d they're looking for something more than this, right?
	They're and and it's not just Candace.
	We've talked about Candace a lot, but it's also Tucker.
	Tucker Carlson, I don't know if he's going through like a mental breakdown because his father just died, and I don't know if he's coming to terms with the fact that his father was, you know, tied in with the CIA.
	I don't know what's going on in Tucker Carlson's mind.
	I don't know.
	I don't know if he's having, you know, some kind of like mental breakdown, if he's getting late-stage, you know, schizophrenia, right?
	A lot of people develop these mental disorders late in life.
	I'm not trying to be derogatory, you know.
	Um, I have family members who have schizophrenia.
	I it comes oftentimes at later stages in your life.
	I'm not a psychiatrist, but there's something wrong.
	Can we agree?
	There's something very fucked up with Tucker Carlson.
	He has really taken a deep dark turn for the worse.
	And I don't know if he's being funded.
	Well, we know he's being funded by Muslims.
	I don't know if he's taking Qatari money.
	We know that he's had Muslim investors.
	We know that he's been traveling to the Middle East a lot.
	I don't know what it is with Tucker, whether he's been completely bought out by Muslims and he's getting paid to say this.
	But just like Candace is worth so much money through her marriage, unless they have some, you know, bulletproof prenuptial agreement, they have kids, right?
	Makes it more complicated.
	Tucker Carlson is worth more money now than he was when he was fired by Fox News.
	He's worth like a billion dollars from his nicotine company and from his network, Tucker Carlson Network.
	So what I don't understand is whatever happened to people just grieving and being silent and letting people have their gather their mental composure after losing somebody so tragically.
	I mean, it's not normal.
	This is not a normal way of grieving.
	Generally speaking, you know, I mean we see Erica Kirk, of course, she pulled herself together and was able to deliver very touching remarks.
	Yeah, but we're amazing.
	We wanted, we wanted to hear from her, but she's gone quiet.
	She's posting occasionally, she's going through the steps of grieving.
	That is grief.
	Grief is not, oh, let me see how I can monetize my YouTube today by having 500,000 live viewers so that we can talk about whether or not Netanyahu sent a sniper to murder Charlie Kirk.
	It's just there's something very distasteful about rich people making money off of their friend's body before it's even in the ground.
	Yeah, if they were if they were poor, it would be excusable.
	No, it's not true.
	No, no, no, but it's especially more egregious given the fact that these people have the money to just go away for a week and shut the fuck up.
	It is that's what I want to know.
	I want you to go away and I want you to shut the fuck up for a week.
	That's what I want.
	I want you to go away and shut up.
	I want you to be quiet and I want you to save your remarks for the speech.
	Not because I want anything to be covered up.
	I want you to have decency For the family.
	I want you to have decency for the for the poor staff at TPUSA who are now being inundated with death threats and crazy people, followers of Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson online who are coming up with these insane theories.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You know, and it's just like, why can't you just shut the fuck up and go away and grieve in in normalcy?
	Be a normal person.
	It's like that meme.
	You know, with a woman shaking, shaking the be normal.
	Why can't you be normal?
	That's what I want to say to Tucker.
	Why can't you be normal, Tucker?
	Why can't you be normal, Candace?
	You know what he'd say to you?
	He'd say, why can't you be normal?
	Did you say you?
	Why can't you be normal?
	Exactly, right?
	No, listen, I Tucker's a difficult one for me.
	And uh, you know, I've known him for a very long time.
	I consider him, you know, at least a friend in passing.
	Uh, you know, we haven't spoken that much, but uh, you know, that's when he put on that little Stephanopoulos thing that little Yeah, with like Stephanopoulos' trune looking sister who's just like you know, looks like what's that grimace character from McDonald's?
	I mean, without the purple dye, it's literally what she looked like is grimace.
	I I think what's happening here is they're not the problem themselves, they're the symptom of the wider problem, right?
	Which is which is the online invocation of absolutely everything.
	All right, everybody has to have a hot take immediately.
	Everybody has to have an alternative theory immediately.
	The algorithm demands it.
	You gotta feed the machine, feed the machine, and that's what they're doing, right?
	And the machine spits out money back at them, and that's their little dopamine hit.
	It's you know, they're rich, they don't need the money, right?
	So what are they doing it for?
	It's the dopamine hit, and they got their comment sections, and that's the dopamine hit.
	And these people and I don't think people really realize that while they're doing this, they're making tons of money.
	Like maybe you can explain this too, because I mean, I'm not able to monetize, I mean, I have sponsors through Rumble, but in terms of like monetizing my content, aside from my subscriptions on X, I'm not monetized on YouTube or any of these other things.
	So explain to people because you know what it's like from being the editor in chief of of National Pulse and also I believe Breitbart too, right?
	And other publications too.
	Yeah, just and I'm I'm not trying to talk to an audience that I think is dumbed down.
	I don't think anybody's dumb.
	I don't think that anybody watching is you know too dense to understand this.
	But I don't really think that people watching understand the gravity and the extent of this monetization.
	Perhaps you can shed some context as a content creator and also as an editor in chief of a publication, like just how much money these news sites and how much money a website and how much money videos can be monetized.
	Perhaps you can shed some light on that.
	Well, I wish I knew about so much of it because like you, I've been demonetized of several things.
	Well, you know what, like how much money, like I don't know if you're able to reveal it, like how much money was Breitbart making just on like a day of like viral news coverage, like how much money would they make?
	I absolutely have no idea because I was not the managing editor, I was the editorial, right?
	So I they they would by the way, they would have never let me look at the books because then I would have demanded a pay rise.
	Um, but the the YouTube stuff is massive.
	Yeah, the the subscription stuff now is massive.
	You know, the National Pulse relies on subscriptions to operate.
	And and we're we are um still to this day, especially because of our Wuhan lab coverage, especially because of our uh Peter Dashuk uh scoops with with COVID and its origins, we're still tamped down on a lot of these conservative influences now, are making tens of thousands of dollars a month on X and on other platforms.
	Well, because Elon Musk is in bed with the Chinese Communist Party to this day, we are still tapped down.
	You know, it's still a limit on how many on my reach.
	So you're not monetized on X. I'm monetized, but I get like 16 bucks like every two weeks.
	I mean, it's pathetic, it's ridiculous.
	Um but you do well with your subscriptions to your site, but or something like that.
	But you're not you're not doing the ordinary people, but yeah, what I'll say is that look, I'm not able to monetize on YouTube, but for my I I post videos on X and my videos get millions of views, like in my Lumered videos.
	Yeah, so I wanted to calculate when I was suing these companies like how much my damages would be when I was, you know, suing them, and I have my you know, my my case pending before the Supreme Court right now.
	Tell us we calculated it.
	My videos would get millions of views on X. Like if I go when I confronted James Comey or something, there'd be like 20 million views, right?
	Confronted Nikki Haley during the Iowa caucus.
	I think that video got 47 million views, right?
	If you have a video, and I'm not able to post on YouTube.
	If I were to be posting that video, not on X, but instead on YouTube, and I were to get one million views, depending on my ad deal with YouTube, and when I say ad deal, they assign certain ads to you, and certain ads pay out higher um CPMs.
	Yep.
	Just like, you know, CPM for a website, same thing.
	A video that gets a million views could bring in anywhere between five to twenty thousand dollars per video.
	So if you have a daily show and you're clipping and you're making like 20 clips per show and you're posting each of those clips as a separate video, and you have millions of subscribers and you're getting over a million views per little clip, not just episode.
	You could potentially be making upwards of five million dollars a month on your YouTube channel.
	I don't think people understand how much money some of these YouTubers are making.
	Like Tim Poole makes an enormous amount of money on his YouTube channel, right?
	Like, I don't think people understand how much money a single clip or a single episode is bringing in.
	That's a lot of money.
	Like 20,000 here, 20,000 there.
	If you do 10 videos in a week and you're making 20,000 per video.
	Yeah.
	I mean, just think about that.
	And if you do that every single year for years on end, I mean every single day, excuse me, for years on end.
	That's what the monetization structure is.
	And so these people have an advantage to say the most salacious offensive shit out there because it's gonna go viral.
	Whether it's people who want to consume this dribble from Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson, or it's people like us who are looking at it like, can you believe these assholes just said this?
	People are gonna watch it and it's going to monetize and they're gonna get rich.
	Yeah, it's it's it's it's this horrible thing of uh like I say, they're part of the machine.
	They they may not even realize they're part of this machine now.
	It's got them.
	You know, there it's captive.
	The AI, the algorithm, all of it is is got these people.
	You know, just for the people at home to to understand this, how much am I charging you to be here today?
	I mean, you you paid for my lunch, so I guess.
	Right, exactly.
	I'm actually losing money being in.
	I got a I got a five-star French steak with some some uh French fries, some free tallow fries.
	And I got some really nice homemade whipped cream with my cappuccino, my latte, it was delicious, and a uh a waiter who was very attentive.
	Yeah, he's great, he's the best.
	Um but but this is my point, right?
	Like some of us do it because we believe in it, and these other people, these these, you know, they're look, we're reporters by profession.
	And we are.
	I mean, they love to say that we're influencers.
	They're influencers, yes, we are reporters.
	We're actually schooled in old school, you know, uh raking through files and digging through, you know, finding connect and actually exposing things.
	You know, I've done the number of scoops in my life, you know.
	I should have a Pulitzer, quite frankly, you should have a Pulitzer, quite frankly.
	Um, but these people, they are controversy mode.
	I'm not trying to sound ostentatious, but seriously.
	No, seriously, for the stories that we've broken and the level of corruption that we've exposed and the terms that you know it's benefited the president of the United States, like that's the kind of reporting that you would get either a Pulitzer or you would get I mean, and I'm not trying to sound fool of myself, just like the reporting I've done on my own exposing all of the deep state actors at the Intel agency.
	Like, that's the kind of work that would warrant a presidential medal of freedom.
	In it in a normal medical.
	And in a normal world where we weren't subjected to political bias.
	In a normal world, you would be known as award-winning reporter, award-winning journalist Laura Lohmer.
	Yes, I would be having sit-down shows, and I would have I would have a job like Tucker Carlson.
	I would have a multi-million dollar contract and a hair and make a chance.
	Oh, yeah, I think that's just no, but this is this is really the dynamic that shifted.
	The people that are fringe are now making millions of dollars a year spewing this bullshit.
	Yeah, whether it's foreign money or whether it's organic, you know, monetized money.
	While those of us who actually are doing real journalism and trying to preserve Western civilization, I've been told we're too extreme to be monetized.
	So let's talk about Nick because um, not that this is my show, but I'm just gonna set the topic.
	Let's talk about Nick because I don't know Nick.
	I've never met Nick.
	And um, I read a very interesting, in fact, I had a conversation with the the New York Times reporter, Robert Draper about Same guy who profiled me.
	Yeah, right.
	And your and your restaurant.
	And the restaurant, yeah, he's just seems to be making his way around.
	Yeah.
	And uh, it was a very good piece, and it was it was you know, in the piece, Nick Fuentes claims that he's like growing up, right?
	He's growing up from a lot of the crazy stuff that he used to say and whatever.
	That's that's the case that he made in the New York Times at least.
	Um, it doesn't feel like that.
	I don't think so.
	This has been the case over the last week, but you know him.
	I don't know him.
	So tell t tell us about you know that.
	Well, I hate to even have to bring it up because you know, I I just this is you know, this whole concept of like Christian grace and forgiveness.
	That's why, you know, people will say, Oh, well, you'll ever, you know, be a Christian.
	It's why I'll never be a Christian.
	You know, I'm not mocking anybody's faith, but I'll never be a Christian because I'm never going to give in to this blind concept of forgiving your enemy and people that just say the most vile shit about you because, oh, you have to be a good, gracious, forgiving person.
	I'm not about that life.
	So, you know, I took a lot of heat because I was gracious, right?
	I made the mistake of being gracious to Nick Fuentes.
	Um, I met Nick several years ago.
	I've known Nick for like eight years or so, nine years.
	And, you know, as somebody who was always subjected to cancel culture and censorship, I said, Oh, it's wrong.
	You know, he shouldn't be censored unless he's actually inciting violence, right?
	There's a difference between free speech and incitement.
	And I got a lot of heat for this because they're like, Well, how could you defend a guy who's going around comparing the Holocaust to cookies?
	How could you defend a guy who is, you know, saying all this shit about Jews as a Jew yourself?
	And I was like, well, you know, I think that we need to rise above our personal feelings about issues and preserve free speech.
	And it's important that we protect people's right to free speech outside of whether or not their speech is offensive.
	And I I really honestly felt this way.
	And so I defended him.
	I defended his right to free speech.
	But I quickly realized, you know, it's not about free speech for Nick, right?
	It's about it's about manipulating relationships, and it's about manipulating your influence or your access to people to tear people down.
	And I realized that it didn't matter how nice you were to Nick or how gracious you were to him when he was being deplatformed or being debanked, and you know, he loves to go around with this whole shtick.
	I'm the most censored man in the world, and you know, I'm censored because of Jews.
	And he'll you know, go through this list of people who have been censored.
	And I've noticed over the years, he would always leave me off the list.
	Like he would never admit that I was censored.
	He would never admit that Laura Loomer, who is a Zionist Jew, has been just as viciously as deplatformed as I was.
	And so that's when I just realized I was like, fuck this guy.
	Like, I'm not going to, I'm not going to risk my reputation anymore.
	And I'm not going to be gracious and I'm not going to be kind and defend somebody who is going to be so disingenuous.
	It'd be one thing if he actually admitted that that there were people outside of, you know, people like him who had been censored.
	But he pushed this narrative that, oh, it's the Jews that are controlling social media.
	It's the Jews who are censoring everybody.
	It's the Jews who are debanking everybody.
	The Jews control our elections.
	Never once admitted that my election was severely censored and silenced.
	Never once admitted that I was just as aggrieved in terms of being um debanked and you know demonetized and things like this.
	Nick is not the only person in the country who has been subjected to censorship and cancel culture.
	And it's the only thing that I'll agree with Candace Owens on.
	He loves being the perpetual victim.
	And I will say he's obviously very intelligent.
	He's, you know, a very skilled communicator.
	I'll give him that.
	But he shoots himself in the foot because any single time anybody ever extends an olive branch to him, he attacks them.
	He viciously attacks them.
	He falsely accused me of being a massad agent.
	He said that I was a foreign agent.
	He said I was a spy.
	He says that I'm bought and paid for, and that, you know, anybody can just give me money and I'll say whatever they want me to say.
	Again, not true.
	None of that is true.
	And I just started thinking to myself, like, here I was so gracious.
	I lost donor money.
	I lost friendships.
	I lost my best friend.
	Um, like somebody who I once considered to be my best friend over this, people who said that they no longer wanted to associate with me because I was trying to be gracious, right?
	These these so-called Christian concepts of grace and forgiveness, right?
	And where did that get me?
	Where did that get me?
	So why does he not mention you?
	Is it his because he wants to perpetuate this lie that it's Jewish people who control the discourse in our political system in America, and it's Jewish people who are leading the charge for cancel culture.
	And if he were to be honest in that I, as a Jewish woman have been fighting just as hard for America First, that I have exposed mass migration, right?
	I'm the one that got the Gaza visa shut down.
	I'm the one that got the New York Times to do an entire spread on highest, right?
	Shining a light on highest and everything that highest was doing in the Darien Gap.
	He doesn't want to admit this because it it breaks and it shatters his entire narrative, his entire grip, which is his entire show, convincing people, radicalizing young men into thinking that all of their problems are because of Jews.
	Every single problem that you have.
	Didn't get laid, blame a Jew, right?
	Stepped in dog shit, blame a Jew.
	Didn't get the job you wanted, blame a Jew.
	Life sucks.
	You fucked around, you partied in school, you didn't do anything, and now you're a social reject and loser.
	Blame Israel.
	Like there's gotta be some accountability.
	And while I do agree that there's a lot of anti-white racism in America, and you know, there's a lot of censorship.
	I, of course, have been subjected to it.
	I'm 32 years old and I don't own a house and you know, I'm not married, I don't have a family yet.
	I mean, soon, right?
	But he's not the only person who has been afflicted by political uh persecution in America.
	And I'm sick and tired of this narrative, and quite frankly, the deliberate efforts to radicalize the youth in a in our country and to demonize an entire subset of people, Jewish people to demonize an entire country, Israel, to demonize Donald Trump to go around and tell people don't vote for Donald Trump, vote for Kamala Harris, don't support Donald Trump.
	Oh, we'd be better off today if Kamala Harris was in the White House.
	You know, things like this, right?
	I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, but then he just to did this hard left pivot during the election season.
	He was telling people not to support Trump.
	He's been bashing President Trump every step of the way of the second Trump administration.
	And I just realized like nothing good is going to come from me continuing to be this principled person that I've always been in saying, oh, you know, I feel bad for him because he was silent.
	There's got to be some personal accountability for his own behavior, right?
	If you actually have been silenced and you actually have been censored, then you have an opportunity to actually bring people over.
	But when you continue to push lies, when you continue to push conspiracies about the Jews in Israel, right?
	You're doing it to yourself.
	He has free speech.
	He makes like $5,000 a night on his fucking super chats on a show.
	He has just as much access to social media as I do.
	X, that's it.
	I'm not on YouTube.
	I don't have access to YouTube.
	I have Rumble and I have X, the same exact thing he has.
	But he's so aggrieved.
	He has to go out there and say that he's the most aggrieved person in this country, and that nobody else, aside from him, nobody else, aside from Nick has been threatened, has been silenced, who has been debanked, who has been put on a no no fly list, right?
	I mean, like I've been, I've had my gun rights taken away, you know.
	So I've been targeted as well.
	He's not the only person in this country, and I'm just sick of it.
	I'm sick of it.
	I'm sick of being nice to people that don't deserve the grace.
	And that's really the God's honest truth.
	I'm just sick of it.
	And I'm sick too of just like Candace and Tucker.
	I mean, because I was nice.
	I was nice and it backfired, it backfired in my face.
	Yeah.
	Being nice never did anything to me.
	It lost me a lot of money.
	Okay, a lot of donations from donors who told me that, you know, I was a traitor to my people.
	Tough life for being a Jew for defending him and his right to free speech.
	He was never grateful.
	Do you think he ever said thank you once?
	I'm the person who gave him the information regarding who showed up to his house and tried to kill him when you know somebody showed up at his house with a gun.
	I'm the one who gave him the chats and access to the information showing who organized this hit on him to report to the FBI.
	Did he ever say thank you?
	No, never said thank you.
	Never, never publicly, you know, said this and said decided to demonize me and attack me on his show.
	So I'm just sick of it.
	Yeah, if he wants to have his free speech, go have your free speech.
	Go live your life, go make your money, that's it.
	But I'm I'm aren't you just sick and tired of people who who claim to be aggrieved and they they they they they they pretend to be so oppressed?
	Like, what where exactly is the oppression?
	Where is actually where exactly is the you know the hardship?
	I just I don't see it anymore.
	I just don't see it.
	I I told everyone at the beginning of the show this would be a therapy session, and and it's because I've just I've come to realize how many people I truly hate in this movement.
	And I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to be malicious, but but this is not the same movement that I signed up for 10 years ago.
	It's been co-opted by grifters.
	We have Megan Kelly running around, pretending like she's like the mommy of the movement when she fucked Trump over and tried to derail his entire presidency, like thinks that she can just storm on in and you know dictate, oh well, who who's allowed to have a voice?
	And oh, who's allowed to come on my show?
	And oh, who's who's actually a credible voice for MAGA?
	It's like, bitch, sit down.
	You literally tried to destroy President Trump.
	You literally tried to destroy our movement that we have today.
	I'm sick of it.
	I'm so sick of everybody.
	I just don't like anybody.
	I like you, and I know this is gonna sound like a therapy session, but I am so sick of all the grifters and the people who never really put any skin in the game, who now want to co-opt this movement for their own.
	They want to turn it into like the modern day Hitler youth.
	That's basically what it's turning into.
	And we have to draw lines in the stand.
	We have to have moral clarity and say this is not the movement that Donald Trump started.
	Everybody knew that Donald Trump was, you know, what he was all about, right?
	He was he was campaigning against Islam.
	He was campaigning for saving Western civilization.
	Before he was uh running for president, he was constantly speaking out about um about attacks in Israel.
	He was constantly speaking out about the rise of Islamic terrorism.
	And now you have these bad actors on the right who want to pretend like Donald Trump wasn't who he always was and always said he was.
	Today, when he was in the UK um with uh Keir Starmer, he goes, a lot of people want to move on from October 7th, but I can't forget what happened on October 7th, right?
	People want to pretend like we don't have, like you said before, they want to pretend like the shit isn't happening in our own country.
	This isn't about October 7th and Israel.
	This isn't about Israel.
	This is about the homegrown terrorism, domestic and foreign that is happening here in America, the radicalization happening here in America and Israel for people like Tucker and Candace and Nick has become and even Megan Kelly in some instances, has become a scapegoat,
	has become a delusional way of avoiding talking about the real political influence and the real um the real political movement here in America to radicalize American youth, to spread Islamic terrorism, to spread transgender terrorism, to spread radical left violence, and to really honestly destroy our country with what is known as the Red Green Alliance.
	And I'm just sick of it.
	I don't know what this party is going to look like because it seems like our movement is being co-opted and being taken over by these shameless fucking grifters.
	That's what they are.
	They are shameless grifters.
	And maybe that is gonna sound unhinged to some people.
	I don't really care because I've had enough.
	I don't know if I want to continue after President Trump.
	I don't.
	I don't know what my life is going to look like after President Trump because I don't want to preserve a group of people who want to suck the life out of the MAGA movement to pervert the MAGA movement and to pervert the true intention of the MAGA America first agenda and to tarnish President Trump's legacy with their delusions of grand dor, thinking that they are going to be the ones to carry on the torch for Donald Trump.
	Donald Trump is the only one in our country.
	Donald Trump is the only one on the right who is truly irreplaceable.
	And it's time for people to understand that.
	It's time for everybody to get their egos in check and to understand there probably isn't going to be an heir to President Trump.
	There isn't really anybody who is going to carry on the torch or the mantle of the MAGA movement.
	We are going to watch a bastardization of the MAGA movement.
	We're already watching it before our eyes.
	We're going to watch a hijacking of the MAGA movement by bad actors who just want to grift their way to the top so that they can satisfy and satiate their egos that just continue to grow on a daily basis.
	Thanks for listening to my TED talk.
	Thank you.
	a lot there to unpack um i tend to agree with you look uh we should get into the conversation of what You bring us to an important point, what happens off to President Trump, right?
	And you know, if if if Bannon was sitting here with us, he'd be like, well, it's a good thing you don't have to worry about that for another eight years or whatever it is, right?
	Like he's gonna run again and he's gonna have another term.
	And actually wouldn't be the worst thing in the world for for the movement because, like you say, he's the only one that's really irreplaceable.
	I think I think there is really gonna be a problem.
	There's gonna be a big fight.
	There already is a fight.
	We're already saying why are we pretending like people are not running?
	We all know Bobby Kennedy is running for president.
	We all know that J.D. Vance is running for president.
	We all know that Tulsi Galbert is running for president.
	We all know that Marco Rubio is running for president.
	Maybe Pete Heggseth will run for president.
	I don't know.
	We why are we pretending like we're some unified force?
	Why are we pretending like the Trump cabinet isn't going to completely implode in the next year and a half?
	Why are we pretending that everybody's on the same team here?
	Why?
	Why are we pretending Like all these people are not just going to go launch their own presidential campaigns.
	Why does everybody insist that we live in a delusional world?
	Why is it that I have to be punished, Raheem?
	Why is it that I have to be punished for foreseeing these things before others?
	You're punished as well.
	I don't want to go on living another 10 years of my life.
	All my 20s were pretty much robbed from me through cancel culture, through, you know, being told that I was too controversial, and in the end, I'm the one that actually came out on top with the moral clarity, and I was right about everything.
	Literally everything.
	You know?
	I mean, it's insane watching these people who tried to destroy our movement, try to now co-opt our movement.
	It's shameless.
	You have to, I mean, surely you agree.
	Yeah, I I look, I the difference is I'm I'm seven years older than you, and I've lived it on both sides of the Atlantic, and I've just become a little bit more stoic about it.
	It is, you know, I I used to, if you don't mind me saying, rant and scream about it too.
	Um this is politics.
	And I'm tired of it.
	You know, I'm tired of ranting and screaming.
	I want to have a nice, peaceful life.
	I want to be able to do that.
	You're a realist.
	And so you know all of these people are plotting against each other right now.
	And as soon as the midterms are over with, they're gonna be all stabbing each other in the back, trying to put their fundraising committees together, everything else like that.
	But however, you have to remember what we you know, for the average person sitting at home, what they want is a cabinet that does seem at least seem united, right?
	Like they they elected a government to do a certain they elected a man to put together a government to do a certain job.
	And has all of that job been done yet?
	Not really, right?
	Like apart from the deportation stuff, actually, very little of what are the bases.
	You know, let's talk about the antitrust stuff that's going on right now, which I think just think is a disgrace.
	I think that the big corporate interests are buying parts of the MAGA movement, and those parts of the MAGA movement are selling out.
	And the DOJ under Pam Bondy and all of this stuff that's going on under the surface, and you might not see it in the newspapers right now.
	Like people sitting at home might not even know what I'm talking about.
	But you know, you look at the HP merger, you'd look at Ticketmaster and Live Nation, you know, these are big corporate monopolies that actually people wanted President Trump in there to break apart these big corporate monopolies that have discriminated against people like you for so long, for for simply for your politics or because you're Jewish or whatever it is, right?
	They have taken sides in all of this stuff for so long, and this DOJ is doing nothing about it.
	You look up at the Epstein files.
	I was wondering to myself today, where is the news about the pipe bomber, the J6 pipe bomber?
	Like, why has that information not come out?
	Or all the declassified documents by Tulsi Gabbard, how come nobody's been handcuffed?
	How can where's James Clapper?
	Where's James Comey?
	Where's John Brennan?
	Where's Obama?
	I mean, if these documents are as criminal as people say they are, how come nobody's gone to jail?
	Right.
	Right.
	And so that's what I would focus on right now between now and the midterms.
	I think we need to heap pressure on because after the midterms, everybody's just gonna be thinking about their own run for president, right?
	And so we're gonna start that whole process again.
	A lot of empty promises, a lot of failed uh endeavors.
	And and like you say, I don't know if I want to do it past Trump either.
	Um, frankly.
	I mean, it's not that I'm giving up, but I just find it hard to find people who are as inspirational as President Trump.
	And I know these people, you know, like people can say, oh, well, there's people that don't like you too, Laura.
	I don't give a shit.
	I don't.
	You don't like me, too bad.
	I don't care.
	This is this is the thing.
	And I don't care if you like me, if you think I'm rude, if you think I'm brash, if you think I'm massage.
	I like you because of it.
	You know, your delusions.
	I don't really care.
	I am so far gone past the point of giving a shit about what people think about me.
	I don't care.
	But I will say, regardless of what people think about me, I know these people, right?
	You know these people.
	We all know all the little stories and intricacies and the details and the fine print that these influencers don't want people knowing about them.
	And the sex parties and all the people.
	We all know about everybody's background and where they were before they got their money, how they got their money, what they did to get their money, who they fucked over along the way, who they maybe fucked along the way.
	Everything.
	I'm telling you.
	Not maybe, by the way.
	So I I know all these details.
	And so it's sickening to me to watch certain people rise and when I say rise, I mean like, you know, not rise in terms of popularity, but rise up as a, you know, as like a hostile force to try to take over the MAGA movement.
	They pretend to be so righteous and they pretend like they're doing this because they want to save President Trump, but they're rising up to hijack the movement to turn it into something dark.
	Nobody's gonna vote for the Republican Party if you have a bunch of Hitler youth running around.
	Okay, that's what it's turning into.
	Nobody's going to vote for a Republican party that doesn't send anybody to jail and doesn't care about political accountability for political violence, okay?
	We're not gonna have elections in this country, we're gonna turn into Mexico, where candidates give speeches and they get a bullet to the head.
	And every single day you hear a new story about a new town mayor getting assassinated.
	I mean, that's where we're heading.
	If if we don't start to actually have the adults in the room rise up and say, all right, you know, there's some boundaries here.
	This is the leader of the movement.
	This is who decides what the movement does.
	This is who establishes what the platform for the movement is.
	And if you want to defect from that, well, you're not in the movement.
	This isn't some big tent charity.
	I hate to say it.
	We're not.
	And I don't, I don't really understand why people, you know, want to live in a big tent.
	Okay, this isn't a fucking third world country.
	Okay.
	I want to be in like a five-star hotel or, you know, a nicely, a nicely decorated um estate.
	It doesn't have to be a mansion, a comfortable home with some decent tasteful decor.
	I mean, where what is this whole talk about?
	Oh, we're gonna live in a tent, okay?
	We're not third worlders, we're not savages, we're not cavemen.
	We don't, we don't, we don't, we don't aspire to to live in a tent or describe ourselves as a tent.
	It should be an exclusive club.
	It should, it really should.
	And I'm not saying it should be like a country club where you have establishment elitists controlling the levers of power, but there do need to be some standards.
	I'm sorry, but letting these lunatics rant and rave, they have their right to rant and rave all they want.
	But is that really what we want people thinking is the public face of our party?
	Well, there has to be some standards.
	That's the point.
	I mean, the point you the conclusion is very important there.
	How you got there, I'm not sure.
	But um, the conclusion there is uh we have to be explicit about what conservatism is.
	We have to be explicit about what MAGA is.
	And you know, as much as you're saying about the you know, the Hitler youth type stuff or what whatever his other there's there's other things as well.
	I mean, you know, people swanning around, uh, you know, pro-abortion chicks swanning around in midtown Manhattan throwing parties and calling them make America hot again parties.
	It's like that is not a movement that the rest of the country is gonna want to support.
	Um, you're selling out your principles.
	You in many cases they have no principles in the first instance, they've glommed themselves onto this movement and they try to make them a name for themselves as as a so-called influencers, right?
	This is my biggest pet peeve in the world is that now people get their news from influencers online.
	And I'm like, hey, uh, we actually know what we're doing.
	We, you know, we I I've been reporting for 20 years.
	Right, we have editorial standards, we have people that hold us accountable for that sort of thing.
	And, you know, not to say that you can't, not to say that we don't believe in the power of you know, people's speech online, but for God's sake, understand the difference between a content creator who's out there for your click versus somebody who's trying to do this for the right reason to get you the actionable information you need, you know, when you need it.
	Uh like as soon as it's humanly possible, as soon as it's humanly collaboratable.
	I mean, when we on let's bring it back to Charlie for a second.
	When I heard from my sources, you know, very close to Charlie that he had passed.
	I hit, I changed the headline on the article from Charlie Cook shot to Charlie Kirk assassinated, and I hit publish.
	And the first thing that came up as replies in my Twitter feed was people going, oh, well, ex-influencer doesn't say that.
	They say they're getting blood, he's getting blood right now.
	And I'm looking at it.
	And I knew that he died right away, and I reserved publishing it because I didn't know if his wife was there in the audience or if his wife was in Arizona.
	Right.
	I knew as soon as I saw the video that Charlie Kirk had died.
	I know people I had been speaking with at Turning Point USA who knew, and they had I mean, the way it went down from my understanding is that his wife was in Arizona, and they, you know, they have a private jet.
	And that's how they were able to get to um Utah is the donor's private jet to, you know, so that the so that they could get there.
	They were, um, for my understanding, picked up by Secret Service because the Trump administration allowed for Secret Service to escort them to the hospital.
	And Charlie was dead.
	Yeah.
	And they were trying to contain the message so that the family and the wife could be notified first.
	But he died instantaneously.
	As soon as the bullet hit him, he died.
	And the surgeon was able to detect a tiny pulse, right?
	But the surgeon had said, And there was a guy last night, forget his name, who was in the car.
	He says that he was in the car with Charlie and he was doing CPR on him in the in the car on the way to the hospital.
	And he said his eyes had already, you know, he was gone.
	He was dead in the car.
	And as soon as the bullet hit his neck, it pierced his spinal cord, it tore through it.
	And whether he had a pulse or not, he was brain dead.
	And they said that even if you know he had been able to have a pulse and didn't lose as much blood, he would have been brain dead and paralyzed.
	And so you know, you you had, I I know exactly who you're talking about, too.
	They're like, oh, good news, he's being stabilized right now, and they're giving him blood.
	Like you don't survive a shot.
	I knew as soon as I saw the video from the side angle that Charlie Kerr Cutton died.
	Well, look, I think in those moments we were all sort of play praying for a miracle.
	I certainly was.
	I was.
	Um, but but you know, what I'm trying to say is But I reserved publishing it because I know a lot of people at Turning Point, and I also, you know, wanted to have respect for the family, because how horrific for the wife that, you know, she could have been at home.
	I don't know what Erica was doing when Charlie was giving her his speech.
	Maybe she was watching on a live stream.
	I have no idea what she was doing, but I know that she was not in Utah.
	And then there were all these rumors like, oh, his wife and his kids were in the audience and they watched him get shot.
	No, she was at home.
	And they had to fly her out to Utah to go claim her husband's body and sign his death certificate.
	Yeah.
	Look, I I understand why a lot of people out there have a um a trepidation towards people who are slightly more inclined to doing things that are in an old-fashioned journalistic way.
	Definitely the media class in this country has let people down.
	And so the disambiguation and the influencer class has risen as a result of that.
	But please, God, I'm begging people, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater here.
	We still need standards in our lives.
	Whether that standard is not myself or Laura Luma, if you're watching this or if it's somebody else that you trust in, but remember, remember what the uh profit motive is for a lot of these people who are just trying to get your clicks.
	That's all they're doing.
	Um, they they are grief farmers in a lot of senses.
	They go out and they scan the internet for videos that are upsetting and they they post these things intentionally.
	They bring down the entire.
	Frankly, Laura, I wonder what you think of this.
	These people sort of they bring down the entire vibe of the nation doing what they're doing.
	You know, these are not people who try and uplift, they're not people who try and inform, they're not people who are trying to give people.
	They're trying to go viral first so that they can make as much money from monetization.
	All they care about.
	And it's all they care about is monetization.
	With disgust.
	I'm disgusted by these people.
	Yeah, look, I'm disgusted as well.
	Um, I'm disgusted by the way that everything now is just about we can get to it first.
	The left has these people.
	I like being first too, right?
	I like breaking a story first.
	Nobody likes scooping more than I like scooping.
	I love a good story.
	But they're but they're you know but there's standards.
	And and it just seems like this influencer culture and the way that it's and I'm not throwing the Trump administration under the bus when I say this, but in a sense, the Trump administration, and this is one thing that I'll say that is critical, but I do I do believe this to be true, and I don't care, you know, people can get mad at me for saying this all they want.
	The Trump administration has kind of, and I'm gonna get heat for saying this, degraded what it means to be an independent journalist.
	Because they said that they wanted to support independent journalism and they wanted to welcome the new media seat, but most of the people who they've invited to take this new media seat, they're not really journalists.
	No, that's exactly they're just propagandists.
	They're people who maybe can say a few nice things for people in the admin.
	I mean, they've invited people, they invited one influencer who was going around saying that uh the Jews were running pedophile tunnels in New York City, right?
	To go sit in this like influencer briefing.
	So it's kind of like a disrespect to the actual field of independent journalism, right?
	It's a degradation of an ambastization of what it means to be a true reporter, because if everybody can now be a reporter, and I believe that you can everybody can practice citizen journalism, everybody can, you know, take that role of a citizen journalist.
	But when you get a White House press pass or, you know, you are elevated to the press room within the White House, you know, when I see influencers who get community noted more than they are actually right, right?
	Sitting in the White House press room, and yet reporters like you and I are denied access to the White House Press room because of you know whatever petty squabble somebody may have with us, it's concerning and it makes me wonder like what is the future of not just journalism, but also the future of the MAGA movement if half these people who are getting invited into the new media seat and half these people who are getting invited into the White House influencer room were like hardcore leftists six months ago.
	Now they're trying to capitalize off of MAGA and Maha.
	Like, what are we doing here?
	Right?
	What are we doing?
	Bringing these people into our movement, and are we really going to allow such low-tier people to hijack and tarnish and destroy this movement that President Trump literally almost lost his life protecting and preserving, right?
	I am worried.
	I am terrified for what the legacy of President Trump is going to be, because there are so many grifters who have now been welcomed into MAGA who are trying to, it's like a rat race, don't you think?
	Like trying to vie for who's going to, who's gonna control the narrative, who's gonna be the top podcaster, who's gonna be the top media personality post-Trump?
	And it's like a race between grifters.
	I would go, I would go even further in my critiques of of that press operation, actually.
	So first stop, why is there one new media seat?
	Why are all of the legacy media who lied, who frankly were responsible for the attacks on President Trump's life?
	And the assassination of Charlie Kirk, if we're being totally honest.
	Absolutely.
	I mean, this guy, Tyler Robinson didn't just pick up a rifle and go, I'm gonna go kill Charlie Kirk because he's hateful.
	Like obviously the media has called Charlie hateful.
	And look, I mean, if they're willing to kill Charlie Kirk over that, imagine what they're willing to do to somebody like me or you.
	Why is the Associated Press still have a seat?
	Why does the Washington Post still have a seat?
	Why does CNN still have a seat?
	Why does MSNBC still have a seat?
	And they don't have AC, they have the best seats, right?
	They have the front rows in that place.
	And if you are a new media person and you want to go and sit in there, you have to sit on the little side thing, or if you're part of conservative media, they they they put them on the side.
	You know, you always see those girls, Mary Margaret from the Daily War and Natalie Winters and all that, they're pushed off to the side, real Americans voice, pushed off to the side, and all of the old mainstream reporters still get to sit in their comfy little chairs.
	And by the way, what is the James Brady briefing room?
	Who is James Brady?
	He was the Secret Service agent that got shot defending uh Ronald Reagan, but he became a gun control activist.
	That's why they named the Brady Briefing Room after him.
	That's why I want the ballroom, the new White House ballroom, named the Charlie Kirk ballroom, because actually that will bring some balance.
	Why don't you just get rid of the Brady press room and make it the Charlie Kirk press room?
	Absolutely, absolutely.
	I mean, I know it's controversial, but why do we have a why do we have a why do we have a uh gun control themed press room?
	Why do we have a gun control theme?
	Why do we have a gun control?
	Just make it the Charlie Kirk press room if that's the case, right?
	Listen, so people make it the Charlie Kirk ballroom, or you could you know put your foot down and say we're not going to allow for the press room to be ideological.
	So people ask me, right?
	Um, you know, why don't you go and sit in that new media seat?
	I said, number one, it's an insult.
	Um, you know, the idea that I'm gonna sit off to the side somewhere and ask a question that I'm not gonna get an answer to anyway, what a waste of time that would be for me.
	The other one is uh, you know, I I'll I'll break some news here for you if you like.
	I was supposed to be on Air Force One for the UK trip this lot this last week.
	Uh I'd arranged it with the communications team at the White House, and in the last minute, I got told, oh, sorry, Susie Wiles doesn't want you on the trip, she doesn't like you.
	Oh, really?
	Yep.
	Yep.
	Are you sure though it's Susie?
	Because you know, I find that a lot of people in the press shop, they love to use Susie as a screen.
	That might be right.
	That might be.
	I think that you know, a lot of people like to use Susie as a scapegoat.
	That might be right.
	And to her defense, I find Susie to actually be a very agreeable, kind woman.
	She's always been very reasonable with me.
	And I'll be honest with you, I've caught multiple people in the press room lying to my face multiple times.
	And so, you know, I've been told that I've been told, you know, Susie Wiles went to the press room and said, give Laura Loomer and her staff press credentials.
	And they told her, we'll do it.
	Never did.
	Ignored all my text messages.
	So I actually would defend Susie Wiles, and I would say it's not Susie Wiles who's the problem, but it's you know, it's the team of they there's a team of of about you know six or seven people in the press shop, and a lot of them like to defy each other and you know, they like to undermine each other with their petty squabbles.
	But if that is the case, because they have a lot of if you're listening to this, tell your team to let us in and actually do our jobs.
	How about that?
	No, I'm just saying, because I do find Susie Wiles to be a very reasonable person.
	And they she's the chief of staff.
	She, if she says something like that.
	Yeah, but if they did they defy Trump, they hired me four times and they wouldn't on board me.
	So it's the president of the United States who literally hired me four times.
	So all I'm saying is that I have I have witnessed right insubordination at the highest levels.
	I've witnessed insubordination against Susie Wiles, insubordination against President Trump, insubordination against other people as well who are in senior roles within the Trump administration.
	And it's easy for people to attack people like Susie Wiles, but I will just say, you know, it's not Susie Wiles' job to uh issue out press credentials.
	Like if Susie Wiles says, give a press credential to this person, and then they say, okay, well, you know, I'm gonna do it.
	She's gonna think they're gonna do it, right?
	But Laura, I mean you're being very nice.
	But she's the chief of staff.
	She's can't enforce it, then she's not doing her job.
	Well, they defy the president.
	Right.
	But then I mean, so what does that say about the executive?
	What does that say about the power of the executive if they're not even going to listen to the president?
	Okay, so what should a president do with people who defy him?
	He should fire them.
	Right.
	So, what should Susie Wiles do to the people who defy her?
	She should fire them.
	Thank you.
	You're not gonna get an argument from me.
	But I will say, I do find Susie Wiles to be a very nice person.
	And I'm not attacking you for this.
	I find a lot of people will use Susie.
	And I'm not saying you're using her as a scapegoat.
	I'm sorry, but a lot of times, a lot of times, a lot of times online.
	Yeah, because they're not gonna say, Raheem, we don't like you, or we don't want to, you know, we don't want to have independent media because you're actually going to ask questions.
	They will come and eat the steak.
	They all smile to my face and give me a hug when they see me, and then they ignore my text messages when I'm at the White House.
	So look, it's you know, goes both ways, right?
	So all I'm saying is that it's it's a bit more complex.
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	I guess it's therapy, right?
	I'm just gonna fly to DC when I need when I need a therapist.
	I'm just gonna come see you.
	I'm just gonna come eat your food, and then I'm going to.
	We have a long therapy.
	I'm gonna come eat.
	I'm gonna eat my feelings away.
	No, but seriously, I mean, you really are one of the thoughts.
	You can come to Butterworth too.
	Yeah, and if you want to invest in your uh invest in your in your stomach and your nutrition, visit Butterworth.
	The show is sponsored by Buttersworth.
	Buttersworth, yeah.
	It certainly is not.
	This episode is specifically definitely not.
	Definitely not.
	No, but um you really are somebody who, you know, has been there from the beginning.
	And there's not many people who I can actually say are my friend because a lot of these people have sold out and they've completely changed.
	They have decided that, you know, their personality from 10 years ago is not their personality today.
	And you're one of the few people that has actually, you know, maintained your principles, and I don't think that your values have changed in the 10 years or so that I've known you.
	And that's very admirable to me.
	And so I want to thank you for coming on.
	I'm sure that um you and I are both flying to Arizona tomorrow and we'll be attending the Charlie Kirk Memorial in Arizona this Sunday.
	And I guess my biggest worry is that, you know, his funeral service is gonna be hijacked by these people pushing their own agendas.
	I just hope they have enough shame and self-awareness to not use the actual memorial service to push their grotesque conspiracy theories and their talking points.
	But um, you know, it's a lot for people to think about.
	And I think that you and I are kind of in the same boat and that you know, we want to support President Trump, and I'm fully committed to serving out the rest of this term, but I really honestly don't know what the next three and a half years after, you know, after Trump is gonna look like because I have yet to see anybody inspirational enough or principled enough to inspire me to fight as hard as I fought for President Trump to fight for them.
	And it's gonna be a test for the MAGA movement to see whether or not the MAGA movement is really gonna survive after these next three and a half years, or if people's greed and their desire to, you know, protect their self-preservation more than the preservation of our country and our values and President Trump's America first agenda.
	Um, it's gonna be a battle between what people think is more important.
	So I appreciate you uh sharing your moral clarity on this issue and any last comments, any last thoughts.
	I guess I'll see you this Sunday in Arizona.
	Yeah, well, I th thank you for your kind words.
	You're right.
	I haven't actually changed that much, and I didn't know that stagnation could be such a compliment, but it it in in that context in that context it is.
	Um we've been the same.
	I don't think I've really changed either.
	Well, yeah, I was literally about to repay the compliment if you would allow me to.
	But I was gonna say, you know, you you the only thing that sort of changed about you is that I think you have become more important than ever before in this movement.
	I think a lot of people will be uh listening to you talking about taking maybe a step back from it in a couple of years and lamenting that.
	Um I what I have to say to them though, it's you know, these are these we we live pretty thankless lives in the jobs we do.
	And it's not like either of us particularly needs thanks.
	Uh but once in a while a slap on the back is is is is a sound of the thing.
	Especially if you could be shot and killed by a sniper for doing this type of work.
	I mean, it puts it into a whole new perspective when you know one of your own gets assassinated for simply having a conversation.
	It's not like he was engaged in anything violent or you know, engaged in any kind of conflict.
	It's not like it was a carjacking or any kind of like really tragic, you know, like obviously certainly tragic, but you know what I'm saying.
	Like it wasn't some one off in instant, like, oh, he was in the south side of Chicago or DC and he got carjacked and you know, got mugged and shot and killed by some thug.
	He was assassinated doing what he loved.
	He was assassinated next to a table full of hats that said make America great again in 47.
	He was assassinated in the most barbaric and tragic way possible.
	And it's a reminder of how you could literally be killed doing this work.
	And, you know, it's not that I'm afraid to do this type of work, but if if there are gonna be people that want to hijack this movement and co-op this movement for the sake of their own personal um enrichment and their own personal gain as opposed to doing what's best for our country and the MAGA movement, then I don't know.
	I don't know if I want anything to do with it after Trump.
	My loyalty is to Trump.
	My loyalty is not to the Republican Party or any of these other Yahoos and you know, big tent blue techs who think that's if only you'd be old enough by the next election, then we could just run you.
	Well, I will be.
	I mean, I'll be I'll be 35.
	I will be yeah by November right now.
	I will.
	I think I just got a good idea.
	I know actually, you're not the first person to say, oh, you should run.
	But honestly, I don't know, you couldn't really pay me to be president.
	It's such a thankless job.
	And, you know, I look at President Trump who gets so much shit every single day, and it's like he could just be playing golf in Scotland.
	He could be, you know, at any of his resorts doing whatever, but he's fighting the good fight for our country.
	And I don't know.
	Maybe you see it, maybe maybe I'm blind to it, but I don't see anybody Who has that level of sacrifice and that level of fight in them?
	President Trump is truly irreplaceable.
	And I'm afraid that the MAGA movement.
	And I'm gonna, I know this is gonna be controversial to say, I am afraid that the MAGA movement might just die when President Trump is no longer in office.
	Because who?
	And maybe somebody will pop up, I don't know, maybe we'll see a miracle.
	Who has what it takes to carry on the MAGA movement with integrity?
	You know, that's that's that's really why the left wanted the assassination of Charlie Kirk, because he was he was a natural inheritor to that.
	You know, he wasn't we all thought of Charlie as somebody who would be a president one day.
	Trump's confirmed it today when he was speaking in the UK.
	He was talking about Charlie and how it's an existential crisis for the world, not just our country, that Charlie Kirk has been killed.
	Yeah, and it's symbolic of the attacks on free speech in America and the UK.
	And he said that he had told Charlie that he could be president someday.
	Yeah, it's true.
	It's true.
	Raheem, where do people follow you?
	And aside from your restaurant, if you want to get a great bite to eat in DC, where do people go to support your work?
	And yeah, you can read all of our work at the nationalpulse.com and just type into whatever social media platform you use, Raheem Kassam, R-A-H-E-E-M-K-A-S-S-A-M, and I'll pop up all over the place.
	And I will say, I know it's been about 10 years or so, about right, maybe maybe more, maybe less.
	I don't know.
	But I do think that your book, No Go Zones, is now extremely more relevant with the Islamification and the actual implementation of Sharia law in places like Texas, and now people are waking up.
	They used to call us kooks and crazy where we said that Sharia law was here in the West.
	But if you are now starting to wake up to the threat of Islam and you're sick and tired, if you have Palestinian fatigue like Raheem and I have, if you have Palestinian fatigue and you want to learn about these no-go zones and the Islamification, I highly recommend you read Raheem's best-selling wasn't New York Times bestseller, right?
	It was New York Times bestselling book, No Go Zones, right?
	No go zones.
	No go zones, because it truly is a book of the ages ahead of its time.
	They called me a lot of things back then.
	Maybe we should change our name to Cassandra.
	Yeah.
	But we're no, we're no trunes.
	I I I couldn't, I couldn't tell you just how much stick I got for writing that book, how many threats I got, you know, all of it, but every single part of it has borne out.
	I mean, it's all it to, by the way, but it has everything has come true.
	Yeah.
	Everything has come true.
	So definitely check it out.
	Raheem, great seeing you.
	Thank you for having me.
	Yeah, of course.
	Thanks for having.
	Thanks for coming by.
	Thanks for having me.
	Yeah, I might stop by for dinner because the food is so good.
	It's so good.
	Might stop by again.
	But thanks for uh coming by and we will see you again.
	Thank you.
	We talked about ways that we can defund the radical left and crack down on the radical left and how President Trump has designated Antifa now as a terrorist organization.
	But we still have this problem of some of the most radical Democrats of all occupying space within the halls of Congress.
	And we've been documenting this extensively at Loomer Unleash.
	So my next guest joining me now to discuss the plague of radical left violence and the normalization and glorification of political violence and assassination culture in the halls of Congress is Charles Downs, my amazing Loomer Unleash DC correspondent.
	Charles, thanks so much for joining me.
	He's gonna come in and sit down.
	Gotta sit down.
	Just talk to the great Don Lamont on the way here.
	So we're doing a lot of great work if they're confronting us.
	He gets so triggered when you say Lamon.
	What did he say to you?
	He goes, Lemon.
	He goes, say my name right.
	Charles.
	Charles.
	I don't know.
	He's turning into like a meme.
	Like it's all been happening.
	I've been watching you and Raheem, and I've just been reading it over there.
	Like people are nuts.
	But no, we really are doing a great job, I think, because I don't think Don Lamont would find a lot of people.
	We're the only we're the only people asking Democrats whether or not they support uh designating Antifa as a terrorist organization.
	And this comes when um, well, as I said before, uh, before President Trump decided to designate Antifa as a terrorist organization.
	So let's go through some of these uh videos and some of these clips.
	Tell me about your week on Washington, DC since Charlie Kirk was horrifically assassinated and uh kind of what you've encountered from Democrats now they're back from recess.
	What's been the overall vibe and um what has been your experience In confronting a lot of these Democrats, because I know that since Charlie was assassinated, you've been confronting and exposing dozens of Democrats up on the hill.
	So what's going on?
	What's the mindset?
	Are the Democrats condemning violence, or are they still engaged in their typical depraved ways?
	I mean, we talked about this together, Laura.
	Like it was the most eye-opening week I think I've ever seen on Capitol Hill, to be completely honest with you.
	None of the Democrats wanted to condemn violence.
	So what they kind of did after the horrific assassination is a lot of them obviously put out statements like, oh, we condemn or we condone or whatever they say.
	But then when you actually put a video camera in your face and asking questions like, hey, should Antifa be designated a terrorist organization?
	They get really uncomfortable and laugh.
	And I'm sure everyone saw that video of me and the nice lady from Michigan, Rashida Talib.
	And Laura, as you were just recording your show, I was actually watching Rashida's hearing that just wrapped up.
	and you won't believe what you just said.
	She just said, "The United States of America "under President Trump is experiencing a fascist takeover." She literally just said this 30 times.
	But they just called Charlie Kirk a fascist, and they said that uh the bullet, uh, the bullet said fascist.
	So it said, uh, hey fascist catch.
	Let's go ahead and get this video pulled up.
	I'm just seeing this now because it was I've been filming live.
	Let's see if we can pull this up.
	That's unbelievable.
	Let's see if we can get this video.
	Rashida Taleb.
	Oh, she's it's trending right now on Haskell.
	Yeah, it's literally going everywhere.
	And like we said, less than 600.
	I'm gonna send this to the producer right now, and hopefully we can get this video pulled up from X. See a video right now.
	Justin for the second day in a row, Palestinian representative Rashida Talib had an absolute mental breakdown.
	Oh, yeah, she was screaming at Brian Donald's.
	It was embarrassing.
	Do we have the clip of her saying that uh President Trump is oh, here we go.
	Found it.
	In the fight for civil rights, we can't be passive right now.
	So nobody over there should take anything we say serious, you know, like so personally as if we're attacking them.
	No, we're attacking a process.
	We're not attacking people here.
	And I think it's really important we need to stand up against this.
	Fascist takeover, that's not a bad word.
	It's a fact.
	And here in DC and across the country, it is so incredibly important, Mr. Chair, that this committee does not allow rhetoric that defames and or or paints Washington C in a way that you all haven't really truly seen.
	You're just reading it.
	No, you're just reading it or something off of some.
	Well, the gentleman yields to a question.
	Yeah, I think it's really important.
	Well, the gentleman.
	I don't yield, I don't even have time.
	I can tell you your time's expired.
	It is expired, but Mr. Chair, but you all live here and you're not telling people the beautiful parts that you do see in the our nation's capital.
	And no, no, no, it's just wrong how we're doing it.
	Chairman, I think it's saying if the lady doesn't have an argument, she's gonna refer to me and some of my colleagues.
	We were from the third right.
	This is a good thing.
	You're gonna look at 14, 15 year olds and a bunch of criminals.
	It's insane.
	Do I look like a member of the third right to you, Ms. Talib?
	Is that what I look like to you?
	You're the one taking your vote.
	Is that what you think?
	I think it's radical, and I think it's insane.
	And I don't respect everything that you say.
	But to say something like that to myself and a lot of my colleagues is way out of line.
	It's way out of line.
	It's way out of regular order, Mr. What happens when you allow for political sister.
	But it's okay, right?
	That is not how it's okay, right?
	You hold yourself accountable before you talk about myself accountable.
	Hey, hey, hey, good.
	I was about to say, did you get some shaking lessons from Jazz?
	You better hold yourself accountable, homeboy.
	That's that like that Jasmine Crockett, ghetto bitch, ghetto fabulous, chiniqua accent.
	Let's go rewind.
	We we just have to show the absolute incivility and savageness of.
	I mean, look, I I have to say, this is what happens when you allow for Muslims to hold office in America.
	Muslims seem to have a defect.
	And I know I'm gonna get in trouble for saying this, I don't really care anymore.
	There is a defect with the Islamic population, whether people want to admit it or not.
	You may think that it's a discriminatory thing to Say, you may think that it is a mean thing to say.
	You may think that it's a bigoted thing to say.
	If it's true, it doesn't matter.
	It doesn't matter how it makes you feel if it's true.
	Every single Muslim who has ever been elected to office in the United States of America has one thing in common.
	They're anti-American.
	They have something else in common too.
	They refuse to assimilate to our way of life.
	Every single Muslim who serves in the United States Congress or holds office in America today has some type of tie to a domestic or foreign Islamic terrorist organization.
	It's a fact.
	Rashida Talib, Ilhan Omar, Andre Carson, we have video of them refusing to condemn it.
	And so when you look at just the absolute uncivilized, savage manner in which people like Rashida Talib behave in Congress, like screaming at the top of her lungs, trying to incite violence, knowing that the word fascist is what got Charlie Kirk assassinated by a tranny.
	You you have to ask yourself, how much longer are we going to tolerate the presence of Muslims in the Congress?
	How much longer are we going to tolerate Muslims holding office and holding positions of power in our government before we have a serious conversation, either as a country or as the Republican Party, you know, separately from the country if the Democrats are not willing to join us in this conversation for the sake of protecting our national security about the threat that Muslims pose to our way of life?
	I mean, how much more are we going to tolerate these people co-opting our institutions before action is taken by our elected officials or our law enforcement or enforcement agencies to mass support non-citizen Muslim populations from America and to censure the Muslims currently serving in Congress because of their promotion and their affinity of Islamic activity in America that is inherently pro-terror.
	I mean, we need to have that conversation.
	I don't really care if people find it to be bigoted, they find it to be discriminatory.
	Muslims should not be allowed to hold office in our country.
	There's been a lot of discussion about faith this week, about American values, Judeo-Christian values.
	Yes, the values that Charlie Kirk was preaching were Christian values, right?
	He often talked about preserving the Judeo-Christian values of Western civilization.
	Okay.
	Notice you don't ever see a Muslim talking about preserving the Judeo-Christian values.
	They don't ever take their oath of office on a Bible.
	They take their oath of office on the Quran because their goal is using their political power and their access to our institutions to advance the cause of Islam.
	And I believe we may have this other clip as well.
	If not, it's on my ex account for people to watch.
	You just confronted both Rashida Talib and Ilhan Omar.
	Oh, yeah, they were.
	So do we have these clips?
	Do we have the clips of Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib?
	Let's go ahead and just play the clip of Charles confronting Ilhan Omar this week after she retweeted a video accusing Charlie Kirk of being a terrorist after he was killed.
	Just to show you, just again, another example.
	I don't know how many examples we need to show you before people realize we need to have a no-Muslim policy, right?
	I know this was originally described as an Islamic travel ban as in a ban on certain countries.
	We need to elevate that conversation to a no-Muslim elected official policy.
	Okay, we should not allow for Muslims to hold office in our country.
	They do not share the same uh philosophical worldview as your typical American citizen.
	They do not share the same ideological viewpoint and have the same framework as our founding fathers did when they thought of the vision of America and what it meant to preserve uh constitutional republic, democracy, our way of life here in America, our values, our constitution, our bill of rights is derived from the Bible.
	Oh, don't tell them that.
	They don't like to hear the Bible.
	So there really is a serious argument to be made in this country to have a no-Muslim policy when it comes to the electoral makeup of our Congress, the House and the Senate.
	I mean, it's really honestly becoming such a problem.
	The most dangerous and radical and problematic members of Congress who are creating the biggest domestic and also foreign terror threat, setting us Up for attacks from proxy, setting us up from attacks from people like Code Pink and these tranny terror cells and these Iranian proxy terror cells in Hamas and Hezbollah.
	It is the Muslim members of Congress.
	I think it's important to point out too that some people on the round are like, oh, Talib and Omar are crazy.
	They're not like normal Democrats.
	No, everybody.
	Democrat Party leadership, starting with brother Hakeem Jeffries himself.
	He never holds these people accountable.
	And honestly, it's kind of remarkable how Rashida Talib can run around the halls of Congress, say whatever policy she wants.
	Any crazy policy, go give crazy speeches.
	And Hakeem defends her every time.
	Look it up.
	Literally, every time Rashida does something nuts, or Ilhan does something nuts, Brother Hakeem's up there screaming racism, saying, Oh, Ilhan and Rashida, they're not wrong.
	MAGA's wrong.
	MAGA's the problem.
	MAGA this MAGA that so a lot of people need to wake up.
	That Democrat Party leadership is responsible, and I think they enjoy empowering people like Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib.
	And I tell people, is my personal belief that Rashida runs the House Dems along with ALC and Crockett because for whatever reason, whatever ALC, Crockett, and Rashida want, that's what the House Dems produce.
	Like, look at it.
	Look at all their crazy policies that then every Democrat starts to embrace.
	It's disgusting.
	It's actually kind of remarkable to watch.
	And looking at the Ilhan Omar video is a little funny.
	I guess it's not really funny.
	It's kind of messed up.
	Story about all this.
	So Ilhan, how we kind of confronted her was we were supposed to kind of confront her outside her committee hearing, but she was skipping those, right?
	So basically, Democrat Party leadership was helping Ilhan, like running cover over her, telling her, Oh, don't come to the committee hearings.
	We won't hold you accountable for skipping your committee hearings, which by the way, that's a disgusting thing for the people of Minnesota.
	They don't get represented at these important committee hearings because Democrat Party leadership allows Ilhan Omar to skip them so she doesn't have any blowback from the press.
	So Ilhan skips a committee hearing, and I'm like, okay, she skipped, how are you gonna get her?
	And there's a lot of press outside, like waiting for her too.
	So I kind of run down the house office building stairs because I don't want any of the media to follow me.
	And then I run back up to her office on like the ninth floor.
	So I finally run up to the ninth floor.
	I'm out of breath, and I'm like, hey, I'm just gonna stand outside her office.
	And this is like a shot in the dark.
	Maybe this will work, maybe it won't.
	Five minutes later, I kid you not, Ilhan Omar comes walking down the hallway, and that's how we get her.
	But what's funny is Nancy Mace is Ilhan Omar's like congressional neighbor.
	So after we confront Omar, Nancy, I think Nancy Mace is like campaign account might have shared.
	Nancy Mace has her account resolution to try to remove her from the committees and to censure her, and then Republicans, four Republicans actually stopped it.
	So again, when we talk about accountability, usually it's the Republicans that get in the way of Republicans getting accountability in the aftermath of acts of political violence, which is why nothing ever changes.
	And so uh we're gonna talk about that as well, but but going to this point, Ilhan Omar doesn't want to answer any of these questions.
	So, do we have the video?
	Let's go ahead and play the video clip so that people can just see this dynamic for themselves because um right before or right after you confronted her, Nancy Mace ended up having the uh the floor vote to try to censure uh Ilhan Omar and remove her for or from her committees for um trashing Charlie Kirk, mocking the assassination of Charlie Kirk and sharing a video that called him a terrorist after he was assassinated.
	Let's play the clip.
	Hello, Congresswoman.
	Will you apologize for resharing a video right after Charlie Cook's assassination, calling him a terrorist?
	Will you apologize, Congresswoman?
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Like Laura, the funny part after we took that video, obviously the video itself isn't funny, super serious.
	But the funny part is after the video, Ilhan Omar started talking, tweeting actually.
	You can look these ex posts at Nancy May saying, Oh, you're the worst neighbor ever, yada yada yada.
	And a lot of people on the hill told me Ilhan Omar believes, and this isn't true.
	I found her myself.
	Ilhan Omar believes Nancy Mace told us when she'd be walking down a hallway and the whole feud just kind of blew up from there.
	So yeah, you guys should check out Ilhan's ex account.
	She's like, you suck, you're the Worst neighbor ever, I hate you, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	We also have the video, uh, we also have the video of you confronting Rashida Talib as well.
	Let's go ahead and play this clip of you asking Rashida Taleb whether or not uh she believes Antifa should be designated as a terrorist organization.
	How are you?
	Good you support designated as a terrorist organization.
	Did you get caught in the ring?
	How about you answer my Antifa question about being a terrorist caught in the ring?
	I'll answer yours, yeah, I did.
	I know it's crazy.
	Like I'm doing.
	And now wait, and you're in the building, you don't know who's raining.
	A lot about Antifa, Congresswoman.
	Well, here comes Code Pink.
	There's Code Pink, Madea Benjamin.
	The same group that confronted an ambush president Trump at Joe Stonecrab the other night in DC.
	It's also important to note, too, that where we confronted Taleb, that area echoes very loudly.
	So there's no way the Code Pink people didn't hear me say Antifa like four times before she walked over.
	She heard and she knew what we were asking, and I think that's so eye-opening.
	And that's kind of why a lot of people like, oh, why don't you like keep going?
	That's kind of why I let it happen, because I wanted people to see, like, hey, look, we're pressing her hard.
	And by the way, when Medea came over and bailed her out, you could tell, I asked a question, asked it again, and she did a little like spiel to get out of it.
	She's like, answer mine.
	So I answered hers, and then I go, answer mine.
	And then right after I literally say, answer mine, I answered yours, the Cold Pink people literally come over and grab her.
	And if that's not eye-opening enough to see the, I guess, alliance between Antifa and the jihadists, I don't know what else is.
	And if you can't see that there's an alliance there from that video, then I'm sorry, you're just hopeless.
	You don't understand the threat that we're facing on the right and as Americans.
	Well, Nancy Mace understands the threat, which is why she filed the resolution to try to censure Ilhan Omar, but unfortunately, it was blocked by four Republicans.
	Let's go ahead and play clip number 13.
	Mr. Speaker, pursuant to clause 2A1 of Rule 9, I rise to give notice of my intent to raise a question of the privileges of the House.
	The form of the resolution is as follows.
	House resolution 713, censuring Representative Ilan Omar of Minnesota and removing her from the Committee on Education and Workforce and the Committee on the Budget.
	Whereas Charlie Kirk was a lifelong advocate for freedom of speech, civil political discourse, and the political engagement of youth.
	Whereas Charlie Kirk was a man of deep faith, a husband and a father to two young children.
	Whereas on September 10th, 2025, Charlie Kirk was assassinated on the campus of Utah Valley University while exercising his First Amendment right to freedom of speech.
	Whereas on September 11th, 2025, one day after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, Representative Alan Omar gave an interview on Zateo's Town Hall with Medi Hassan, in which she smeared Charlie Kirk and implied he was to blame for his own murder.
	Whereas on September 12th, 2025, two days after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, Representative Alan Omar reposted a video on X, formerly known as Twitter, which disparaged the character of Charlie Kirk and those mourning his death.
	Whereas the video representative Alan Omar reposted on X states Charlie Kirk is dead.
	And before the body got cold, the far right propped his corpse up as a cudgel for their holy war.
	Whereas the video Representative Alan Omar reposted on X further states, don't be fooled.
	These people don't give a single shit about Charlie Kirk.
	They are just using his death to further their Christo fascist agenda.
	Whereas the video representative Alan Omar reposted on X further states Charlie Kirk was a reprehensible human being.
	He enacted his political agenda by preying on weak-minded people.
	He took complex socio-economic issues and simplified them by pointing fingers at out groups, demonizing those groups, and sicking his massive following on them.
	Whereas the video representative Elan Omar reposted on X further saves Charlie Kirk was a stochastic terrorist, an adamant transphobe.
	He denied the genocide happening in Palestine.
	He believed the subjugation of women, and in his last dying words, he was spewing racist dog whistles.
	Whereas the video Representative Alan Omar reposted on X further states, Charlie Kirk was Dr. Frankenstein, and his monster shot him through the neck.
	Whereas the video representative Alan Omar reposted on X further blames Charlie Kirk for his own murder.
	Whereas clause one of rule uh 13 of the rules of the House of Representatives provides a member, delegate, resident commissioner, officer, or employee employee of the House shall behave at all times in a manner that shall reflect credibility on the House.
	Whereas Representative Ilan Omar's actions in the wake of the assassination of Charlie Kirk are reprehensible and affect the dignity and integrity of the proceedings of the House and do not reflect the credibility on the House.
	Now, therefore, be it resolved that Representative Ilan Omar of Minnesota be censured.
	Representative Ilan Omar forthwith present herself in the will of the House of Representatives for the pronouncement of censure.
	Representative Ilan Omar be censured with the public reading of this resolution by the speaker.
	And Representative Alan Omar B and is hereby removed from the Committee on Education and Workforce and removed from the committee on the budget of the House.
	And if you want to see the video that she reposted, let's go ahead and play clip number 11 so that you can see the video posted by Omar calling Charlie Kirk a terrorist.
	Charlie Kirk's dead, and before his body got cold, the far right propped his corpse up as a cudgel for their holy war.
	I've never seen more people within the same sentence both condemn political violence and then immediately call for political violence against their opposition.
	Don't be fooled.
	These people don't give a single shit about Charlie Kirk.
	They are just using his death to further their Christo fascist agenda.
	And before I continue, I need to say that this revisionist history about who Kirk was is just as perplexing.
	I'm seeing all these heartfelt statements coming from Democratic politicians and celebrities applauding Kirk as some bastion of free speech and debate.
	Kirk was a reprehensible human being.
	He enacted his political agenda by preying upon weak-minded people.
	He took complex socioeconomic issues and simplified them by pointing fingers at out groups, demonizing those groups, and then sicking his massive following on them.
	He was a sarcastic terrorist, an adamant transphobe.
	He denied the genocide happening in Palestine.
	He believed in the subjugation of women, and with his last dying words, he was spewing racist dog whistles.
	Charlie Kirk was Dr. Frankenstein, and his monster shot him through the neck.
	And all of that said, none of us should want to live in a society where these types of killings become the norm.
	It's the sign of a sick and dying world, and we can both denounce this violence and also realize that Kirk and his Ilkes rhetoric are why it happens.
	And you can see this rhetoric continuing after his death.
	Far right extremists are clogging social media, practically begging to use his death as an excuse to enact massive retributory violence against Democrats or liberals or leftists.
	They are looking for any excuse to justify their desire to kill their opposition.
	As of writing this, we have no idea why Kirk was shot.
	Yet the fucking president of the United States is already using this as an opportunity to demonize his opposition.
	The hypocrisy is astounding and terrifying in how callous and calculated it is.
	These same folks begging for blood were silent when Democratic leader of the Minnesota House Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark were assassinated in their homes.
	The president gave remarks from the Oval Office about Kirk's murder and said nothing about the three kids shot in a high school in Denver yesterday.
	Republican commentators are outraged that people would make light of Kirk's death and laugh their asses off at Nancy Pelosi's husband being beaten with a hammer and still to this day mock the death of George Floyd.
	And the reason is they don't actually give a fuck about the violence.
	They don't care about Kirk's death.
	The only thing they care about is winning, about using this situation as leverage to further their political agenda of turning this country into a Christo fascist authoritarian state.
	And the Democrats, by normalizing Kirk and cosplaying norms, are allowing them to cling to this martyr narrative.
	The only thing that matters to these people is ensuring that the fictitious world they've created is the one that dominates, and they will hang the corpse of Charlie Kirk on their banner if it means that they'll win.
	We actually do know the motive.
	He was a leftist furry loving, tranny loving lunatic who was radicalized by the left.
	You know what the clearized by the left.
	And now we're finding out that there's all these people that knew about the shooting beforehand and after the fact and didn't report him to the police because they were all talking about it in a Discord channel.
	So we do know the motive, but Ilhan Omar likes to promote this type of radical left rhetoric.
	She supports the trannies, she supports, you know, all of these degenerate movements on the left that are incapable of living in a society with free speech because they don't know how to control their emotions because they have mental illness.
	And they've been told that they're special and that they deserve to be celebrated for their mental illness.
	And they've been told that yes, there's other genders out there.
	Yes, you can be a woman, yes, you can be a man when really we just need to reopen the mental institutions for all of these fucking freaks who think that they can go around pretending like, you know, they're they're a man or a woman when they're not a man.
	Especially the guys, actually.
	Like if you're a girl, you think you're a girl?
	It's mental illness.
	You're just a lost cause.
	Just just leave.
	Like denounce your citizenship if you're a dude and you're not.
	Well, and I'm not advocating for suicide.
	But like, why don't these people just kill themselves instead of killing others?
	Like if you hate yourself that much because you're trans and you feel like nobody's gonna accept you.
	And I'm not advocating for suicide.
	But like, wouldn't it just be a lot easier to kill yourself instead of killing other innocent people?
	Like, I am not advocating for suicide.
	I wish these people would go get mental health care.
	But don't you think it's a little weird how they have to, like, surely Tyler Robinson knew that he was either gonna get shot or he was going to get arrested and thrown in jail for the rest of his life.
	Like, if you're gonna throw your life away, why not just throw your own life away instead of throwing other innocent people's life away?
	So I don't understand it.
	Like that just shows you that it truly is a mental illness, right?
	Because a lot of times, like the shooters end up killing themselves.
	In this case, the shooter tried to make a run for it and was on the run for a couple days.
	That's an issue.
	And then they got him.
	But most of these trannies that end up shooting up schools, they shoot themselves in the head while you know they're carrying out their rampage.
	But like they clearly want to kill themselves.
	So my point is is you know, there is never a discussion about like why these people haven't just killed themselves instead of going on a murderous rampage and killing others.
	Like, why make it a murder suicide when you could just make it a suicide?
	Because it's the drugs, in my opinion.
	And we've talked about this too.
	I'm a big sports fan.
	It must be.
	It must be the drugs because nothing for the life of God, for the love of God, I will never understand why somebody who commits suicide wants to take other people out with them.
	Like again, I'm not advocating for suicide, okay?
	I know that it's not moral to push people to kill themselves.
	And I don't encourage anybody to kill themselves.
	But if you are trying to kill yourself, or you wake up one day and you want to kill yourself and you want to go out with a bang and kill other people before you kill yourself, like, right?
	Like, what is the point of killing other innocent people?
	If you're that unhappy to the point where you want to kill yourself, you should probably go get some psychiatric care, go see a professional so that you don't kill yourself.
	But if you can't help yourself and you do want to kill yourself, like again, I don't understand why they don't just kill themselves instead of killing others.
	It's it's a conversation that I think that we need to have.
	And again, it's part of the psychosis, it's part of the disorder, it's part of the imbalance that's created when you pump your body full of these hormones, right?
	You you don't just become suicidal, but you also become murderous, right?
	And I'm not saying that Tyler Robinson was taking trans hormones, right?
	He was dating a tranny and he clearly was smart, like his parents said that he was smart, he was no dummy, he was capable of comprehending things, right?
	He just decided that he was gonna kill Charlie Kirk because he thought Charlie was hateful.
	But there's no denying the trans connection.
	He himself was not trans, but he was certainly involved in a sexual romantic relationship with a tranny and a furry.
	And there's something to be said about that because if you're willing to date a tranny, in my opinion, you're just as mentally ill as the tranny.
	I mean, he's probably doing the drugs too.
	I I don't know, I don't realize it like that.
	Or maybe he wanted to, I don't know.
	Maybe he wanted to.
	I guess now we're finding out that his um his internet search history was a bunch of like transgender furry porn.
	So maybe he was, maybe he was, you know, maybe he was into it.
	Maybe he was getting off on the idea of having sex with trannies, or maybe he wanted to be a tranny.
	I don't know.
	But when the left says in that video that Ilhan Omar retweeted, oh, you know, we don't know what the motive is.
	No, you do know what the motive is.
	Yeah.
	No, it's disgusting.
	It's a trans trans terrorism, trans terrorism.
	How many more of these shootings do we need to have in our country before people wake up to the fact that we have a trans-terrorism problem?
	Also, isn't it crazy how Candace Owens never talks about Han Omar and her little, oh, Israel killed Charlie Kirk conspiracy theories?
	Isn't it so eye-opening that the biggest Hamas sympathizer in Congress reshared a video calling Charlie Kirk a terrorist because Charlie Kirk took Israel's side over Hamas?
	Yeah, but you're not gonna say But Israel killed Charlie Kirk, according to Candace.
	It's it's it's how dumb you gotta be to listen to.
	But Candace doesn't want to call out another black woman.
	She doesn't want to call out another muscle loving black woman.
	Can't call out another Muslim loving black woman.
	No, no, it's like black code.
	I don't know if it's black code, woman code, muscle code.
	So it was like telete.
	I don't know what it is.
	I don't know, but it's like it is interesting, right?
	I noticed that she also didn't say anything about Arena Zarutska, you know, so interesting, right?
	Doesn't want to talk about a young woman who got brutalized by a black man on a bus, doesn't want to criticize a Muslim black congresswoman who was, you know, attacking Charlie Kirk, calling him a terrorist.
	But again, it's just more evidence of how unprincipled and misguided Candace Owens is.
	Oh, I agree.
	And then like going back, I wanted to say this part about the trans drugs real quick.
	I grew up a sports fan.
	I love baseball, the steroid era when I was a little kid.
	I don't know how to say this, right?
	I loved watching baseball during the steroid era, even though all those people were juiced up, right?
	But if you read Jose Conseco's biography, he's one of the baseball players.
	If you guys don't know sports, who got caught basically doping.
	He talks about how the testosterone, the HGH, the estrogen.
	Yes, baseball players had to use estrogen when they were taking testosterone to mask that they were taking testosterone.
	He basically writes like these drugs give you like a 24-7 high and they get addicted.
	Well, and they do like weird things to your body parts too.
	Yeah, like Barry Bonds' head.
	I'm not saying he did.
	He says he doesn't do steroids, everyone else says he did.
	Harry Bonds' head, if y'all reduced, grew like three times one baseball offseason.
	He came back and was like, how did his head get so big?
	Barry Bond's feet grew.
	And it's a really famous, I guess, fight clip from the steroid in baseball.
	It was the Boston Red Sox versus the New York Yankees.
	I believe Roger Clemens is pitching.
	Uh, he says he didn't use steroids, other people say he did.
	Long story short, he gets so angry, he throws a baseball at Alex Rodriguez's head.
	Another guy who got caught using steroids, says he didn't, but a lot of people think he did.
	Arod then takes the bat and charges the mound and starts swinging at Roger Clemens.
	It's an actual, like, look this up Red Sox Yankees fight, I believe it's 2004.
	A full-blown Roy Rage.
	So these drugs cause professional athletes who get paid millions of dollars a year to keep their bodies toned, but they can't control themselves and they're on these drugs.
	And there's literal video evidence proving this.
	But yes, let's give the same drugs to America's youth who aren't professional athletes.
	It's safe for them, but not for professional athletes.
	Who are also using social media, whatever the, whatever, you know, the FBI wants to call them.
	These nonviolent or these nihilistic, violent extremists.
	So yes, It's a good comparison because you're right.
	You know, these types of hormones, any kind of hormone is going to destabilize your emotions, and it's going to cause some kind of emotional imbalance or some kind of um some kind of distortion for your normal emotional regulations.
	And so whether you're taking these hormones or you're living with people, there's also a lot of science about how hormones and pheromones can be transmitted, right?
	Through your skin and also through your bodily touch.
	So in your hormones, if you're having sex with somebody, right?
	Like they talk about pheromones, like people's pheromone connections and how it's their pheromones that cause them to have sexual attractions to each other.
	They talk about women like having the same like menstrual cycle of their their their, you know, their pheromones match up because they ended up like spending so much time together.
	So it's interesting.
	Like, what's the effect of spending time around somebody or being in a psychological, emotional, sexual relationship with somebody who is undergoing these hormones?
	I mean, we don't know like if Tyler Robinson wanted to transition himself or if he was also talking about it, or he was clearly gay, right?
	Like having sex with a transgender, a man transitioning to a woman.
	You're clearly gay, right?
	If you and his family said that he started to become more pro-gay and pro-trans.
	So who knows?
	I mean, maybe we're gonna find out that he also was taking some kind of hormone.
	We don't know.
	Um, but there is something to be said about these Democrats who like to say that there is no motive.
	There is a motive.
	And they they will do anything.
	They will keep on calling us fascists during congressional hearings.
	They will keep on calling us racists.
	They will keep on calling us terrorists.
	They will do anything in their power if it means that they don't have to admit that they have inspired a generation of trans terrorists of radical left Democrat terrorists.
	And no, it's not nihilistic violent extremism.
	It's Democrat violence.
	It's assassination culture.
	And it's 99.99% affiliated with the Democrat Party.
	And going off that, Democrats in Congress.
	It's a little thing about baseball oil on a steroid era.
	So when I was a kid, the thing that actually got me involved in politics was back in the day, I don't know if y'all remember this.
	When the professional baseball players like Mark McGuire and the best of the best when we were all kids, they got called up to Congress to testify about their use of HGH, testosterone, and estrogen.
	And obviously, all the baseball players lied to Congress and they're like, oh no, we ain't use steroids, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	Well, it comes out, obviously, a bunch of the players who testified use steroids, right?
	And guess what happened to them?
	The Congress tried to throw them in jail to set an example that these drugs are bad.
	Now, fast forward literally 15 years later.
	Some of the same congressional Democrats, by the way, who chaired these committee hearings trying to throw professional baseball players in jail for using steroids.
	They're now advocating for trans people who aren't professional athletes to take the same drugs.
	Now, I that might be the most assin eyeing thing I've ever heard in my personal opinion.
	The same people who said the drugs are too dangerous for the professional athletes and they're throwing them in jail, are now trying to give them to your children.
	That I think perfectly sums up the hypocrisy issue on the left, in my opinion.
	Well, there's a lot of hypocrisy, and I'm sure that we're gonna see it continue through these outrageous congressional hearings.
	It's getting very heated, it's getting very hot and heavy.
	I'm sure that we're probably gonna see more acts of political violence.
	I don't think it's gonna end with the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
	And I'm sure that we're gonna see more excuses, right?
	Justifying the assassination of Charlie Kirk, like we've seen from the radical left, especially this weekend, as everybody will be very emotional, tensions will be high.
	It's thousands of people flock to Arizona, Glendale, Arizona for the memorial service of Charlie Kirk at the state farm arena.
	And it's gonna be interesting to see whether or not the media continues.
	There's a lot of people that are getting canceled, a lot of people who are rightfully getting, you know, removed from their jobs, fired from their jobs, losing their show.
	We saw Jimmy Kimmel yesterday, got a show canceled for celebrating and glorifying assassination culture.
	And so I will be in Arizona on the ground on Sunday for Charlie Kirk's memorial.
	I will, you know, I don't want to say I'll be reporting live from the memorial because it's a memorial service, but I'm sure that you know I will give a debrief, and I'm sure that you know a lot of media are going to be there as well.
	I will be there to um, you know, absorb the memorial, attend the memorial, pay my respects, but also, you know, to see the memorial in person.
	And so since I'm gonna be there, I'll be able to have an idea of how the radical left responds.
	It will be interesting to see too if radical leftists tried getting tickets to sneak in so they can protest.
	Especially I want to see, you know, if they're gonna try to protest Charlie Kirk, too.
	That's gonna be really disgusting if they try to do that.
	So it's gonna be really interesting to see what happens.
	But with that, Charles, I want to thank you for all of your good work.
	Keep up the good fight up on Capitol Hill confronting all of these radical leftists.
	Where do people follow you if they want to follow you on social media?
	Oh, yeah, at the Charles Aaron.
	That's my handle for X and Truth.
	So give me a follow on that.
	And thanks, Laura.
	And we'll have a lot of, I guess, huge confrontations coming up because we all know the Democrats, someone's gonna say something extremely awful and extremely stupid during Charlie Kirk's funeral.
	Two to one odds it's Ilon Omar or Rashida Taleb.
	And we all know it's gonna be someone who's gonna just say something so awful and you're just not gonna back down.
	And then we got Brother Hakeem, he'll back them and be like, my members can say whatever they want.
	And there we go.
	So absolutely.
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