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laura loomer
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rush limbaugh
There is a young female journalist, conservative journalist by the name of Laura Loomer.
alex jones
If America's men acted like Laura Loomer, our problems will be fixed in about five minutes.
unidentified
Chained herself to square.
She chained her...
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laura loomer
*Ballon* *Ballon* *Ballon* *Ballon* *Ballon* Good evening and welcome to episode 141 of Loomer Unleashed.
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We have a lot to talk about tonight.
We're going to have a very exhilarating guest to come on and talk about a new bombshell shocking study that is out.
We're going to get the study pulled up right now before we invite our guest on.
You may have seen this, you may have not seen it.
There was a Fox News segment about it a couple days ago, but it really isn't getting a ton of coverage, although it should be on the front page of every single news publication, in my opinion.
I just think this is so shocking given the fact that so many Americans take Tylenol.
But essentially, there's a new study out from the Harvard School of Public Health, and there's other studies as well that corroborate it that are not from Harvard.
But long story short, they have uncovered that using acetaminophen, which is the main active ingredient in Tylenol, and a drug that you can just get over the counter.
I mean, how many of us have taken Tylenol, take Tylenol on a daily basis, have it in our medicine cabinets during pregnancy may increase children's autism and ADHD risk.
And pretty bombshell report.
Let's go ahead and play this Fox News report so that you can see further details about this study before I bring my guests on tonight.
But, you know, it's very relevant given the fact that at last week's cabinet meeting with all the cabinet members in the Trump administration, President Trump, and especially Human Health Service Secretary RFK, he brought up the fact that in the next coming weeks, in the month of September, they were going to be releasing some interventions that cause autism.
And President Trump said that this was going to be an explosive day in the history of medical health science and also an explosive day in the history of our country since millions of Americans and really millions of people worldwide have been plagued with autism.
They say that one in 31 children born in the United States of America will develop autism.
And so these are pretty elevated numbers, especially when you look at the change in numbers from autism diagnoses over the last 20 years in the history of our country.
And so it's going to be pretty eye-opening and shocking when RFK releases these various interventions.
And I'm hoping that we will see Tylenol listed as one of the interventions released by HHS and RFK Jr. when he decides to come out with this highly anticipated report that he has promised to release to the American public in the month of September.
So let's go ahead and play this clip.
gillian turner
Welcome back.
Acetaminophen has long been considered the safest pain reliever for expecting moms to use during pregnancy, but now a new study out links the popular drug to some pretty serious long-term side effects for baby.
Let's go ahead and bring in Dr. Masa Tirani, a board-certified rheumatologist.
Doctor, tell us about the study and the results.
And I mean, it sounds like this is potentially transformational.
unidentified
Yes, Jillian.
So the group of researchers at Mount Sinai looked at over 46 studies, over 100,000 participants worldwide, and they found that in utero exposure to acetaminophen increases risk of autism as well as attention deficit hyperactivity type disorders.
And the higher the dose, the longer the duration increases this risk further.
Now, we think this happens because acetaminophen can cross the placenta and it can interfere with the developing fetal brain with the chemical and hormonal signaling.
And the big problem is acetaminophen, which is also known as brand names Tylenol paracetamol, have been our go-to recommendations for pain and fever relief in these pregnant patients.
I do have to say the study is not 100% cause and effect.
It doesn't establish that, but it is a very strong observational study.
And in this time where we're seeing such a significant rise in autism spectrum disorders, I don't think we should take this data lightly.
Wow.
john roberts
So a lot of people have said, oh, autism, it's vaccines.
Would this maybe highlight another association?
unidentified
I think it certainly gives another avenue for us to explore.
gillian turner
Are you going to tell your pregnant patients to not take acetaminophen based on the study?
unidentified
That's a great question.
I'm going to tell a lot of us reflexively, we have a minor ache, back pain, we reach for that medication.
I'm going to try to counsel them and say, if you have arthritis flares, try other things, heat, cold, physical therapy exercises.
But if pregnant patients have fever, that's another story because fever can itself cause issues with the pregnancy and malformations and miscarriage risk goes up.
So this is an area that the OBGYN has to get involved with and do lots of counseling with patients.
john roberts
Yeah, risk-benefit analysis.
There's something else we wanted to talk to you about.
It's some weird tick-borne illness that really seems to be prevalent on, of all places, Motha's Vineyard, where if you get bitten by this tick, you suddenly become allergic to meat and dairy.
What is that all about?
unidentified
Yes, it's very weird.
It's called Alpha Gal syndrome.
It's actually an allergic reaction.
So it's an allergic reaction to a sugar molecule in red meat in dairy.
And us humans don't have this sugar molecule.
So and the lone star tick carries this sugar molecule in its saliva.
So when it attaches to your skin and bites you, your body sees the sugar molecule.
It mounts an antibody response.
And the next time you have some steak or ice cream, the body sees that molecule and says, aha, this is bad.
I'm going to attack it.
And this, the whole reaction starts.
What's really unusual, a lot of times it happens a few hours later after consuming a meal.
So you have your dinner, three in the morning, patients are waking up feeling really hot, getting hives, having severe abdominal pain, and sometimes life-threatening anaphylactic reactions.
gillian turner
Oh my gosh, terrifying.
You would not do well.
Do not get bitten by a tick on the title.
john roberts
You can't be treated.
unidentified
Well, the treatment is, of course, if somebody's having an anaphylactic reaction, epinephrine pens.
But what's really important is prevention.
These ticks, the reason this is rising, there are 450,000 cases in the U.S. right now.
It used to be in the Southeast, but now it's traveling up to the Northeast and Midwest states.
So the best protection is for us to wear DEET-based tick sprays, promethrin-treated clothing, and to do full-body tick checks if you're outside and you come back in to remove those ticks right away.
john roberts
Oh, wow.
gillian turner
Pretty terrifying.
john roberts
That sounds awful.
unidentified
I know.
gillian turner
Thank you for coming in to talk to us.
Great to see you.
john roberts
Thank you for the hash call as always.
unidentified
Thank you.
john roberts
Appreciate it.
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laura loomer
Pretty shocking.
And, you know, a lot of doctors are going to have to reevaluate whether or not they encourage such active and casual use of Tylenol over the counter in their patients.
I mean, how many of us, when we get an ache or a pain, we just immediately reach for Tylenol?
I know I keep it in my purse and I know that I've always had it in my medicine cabinet from the time that I was a teenager when I was at boarding school.
I always had Tylenol.
And now we're finding out that it's actually not so safe and especially not safe in young children and women who are pregnant.
And a lot of doctors, a lot of gynecologists, a lot of OBGYNs, a lot of doctors have told pregnant women, oh, well, you know, if you get a headache or you get a pain when you're pregnant, just take Tylenol.
It's okay.
But now we're finding out that when children are exposed to acetametophen, also known by the brand name as Tylenol, during pregnancy, that they may be more likely to develop neurodevelopmental disorders, including autism and ADHD, according to this new study.
The study was published August 14th in BMC Environmental Health.
Andrea Baccarelli, who's the dean of the faculty of Harvard's T.H. Chan School of Public Health and a professor of environmental health, was the senior author of this study.
The study was led by the ICANN School of Medicine at Mount Sinai and also included co-authors from other institutions.
Now, we know from Kennedy's statements, and I believe we have some of these videos from the cabinet meeting that we can play from last week when HHS Secretary RFK Jr. was speaking with President Trump during this cabinet meeting about how he has commissioned a study over these last several months with scientists and institutions from all across the country,
including researchers within the federal government, to study the causes of autism.
And a lot of people were really eager to see Kennedy join the Trump administration, specifically because throughout his long career, he has really been leading the charge, especially when it was very taboo to do so, in speaking out about the causes of vaccines, whether or not causes of autism, whether it be vaccines, as many people discuss.
And President Trump also has been a thought leader on this.
I mean, if you go and you look at President Trump's statements from before he ever ran for president, he was talking about how there needs to be more studies into vaccines causing autism in young children.
And, you know, those tweets are still available on his public Twitter account for people who want to see them.
I mean, he posted them, I believe, in 2012 and 2013.
And you can still see President Trump's early comments from years ago, over 10 years ago, talking about how vaccines cause autism in small children.
I mean, we can pull these tweets up right now.
Type in Trump tweets, autism, children, vaccines, given children vaccines.
You can just see for yourself.
Images.
There you go.
August of 20, 2012, massive combined inoculations to small children is the cause for a big increase in autism.
Healthy young child goes to a doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn't feel good, and changes.
Autism and all caps, many such cases.
So, and then you can see if you click on the one below that, click on that one.
Open that one up.
unidentified
He says, I'm being proven right.
laura loomer
Scroll to the next one about massive vaccinations.
The doctors lied, save our children and their future.
Again, that's from 2012 and 2013.
So, President Trump, hopefully, we can get some better quality photos.
These don't look good at all.
Let's get some better ones up on the screen here, some clearer images.
It's Google.
Google has like horrible resolution.
But either way, you can go and you can search yourself.
Yeah, Google's really got to like improve their image resolution.
They have some of the worst image resolution I've ever seen.
But there's a million of these images.
You can see for yourself if you just type in Trump tweets, autism, children, vaccines as your keyword search words.
And you can see for yourself the years of President Trump tweeting before he ever ran for president.
In the meantime, before we bring on our next guest in five minutes, let's play this clip from the cabinet meeting last week at the White House, where President Trump was interacting with Kennedy, talking about this highly anticipated report that we are expected to see in the month of September.
We don't know when.
It's going to be this month, though, according to what RFK Jr. said.
Let's go ahead and play the clip.
donald j trump
That's great, Bobby.
Bobby, autism, if I could just, I don't want to go too long because we have a lot of people, but the autism is such a tremendous horror show, what's happening in our country and some other countries, but mostly our country.
How are you doing on that?
robert f kennedy-jr
We are doing very well.
We'll have announcements as promised in September.
We're finding interventions, certain interventions now that are clearly almost certainly causing autism.
And we're going to be able to address those in September.
donald j trump
It's such a big day.
I'm looking forward to that day because there's something wrong when you see the kind of numbers that you have today versus 20 years ago.
And those numbers, what are those numbers, Bob?
robert f kennedy-jr
In 1970, the biggest epidemiological study in history was done in Wisconsin.
They looked at 900,000 children and they were looking for autism.
They knew what it looked like.
And they were very, very precise about it.
And they found an incident rate of 0.7, in other words, less than one for every 10,000 children.
Today, our most recent numbers are one in every 31 kids.
It's probably actually much worse than that because California, which has the best collection system, is reporting one out of every 19 children, American children, as autism, one in every 12.5 boys.
I was gone from less than one in 10,000 in 1970 to one in 12.5 boys.
donald j trump
Think of those numbers.
So there has to be something artificially causing this, meaning a drug or something.
And I know you're looking very strongly at different things, and I hope you can come out with that as soon as possible.
So one in 10,000, and now it's one in 31 or 34 or 12 if it's a boy.
Can you imagine that?
One in 12.
That's for a boy.
unidentified
One in every 12.5, it's not even believable that that could be.
donald j trump
And that was one in 10,000 not so long ago.
I've been hearing these numbers and they get worse and worse every year.
There's got to be something.
I think there's nothing, including favored nations and everything else, is nothing that can be.
If you can find out the reason that that's happening, and I know we're going to do some things, I think it's, I think we maybe know the reason.
And I look forward to that press conference to be with you in that press conference.
That's going to be a great thing.
Thank you, Bob.
You're doing a great job.
laura loomer
Unbelievable.
And, you know, President Trump doesn't get enough credit for really leading the charge on this.
I know a lot of people want To attack him for Operation Warp Speed.
And we're going to get into that tonight, too, because President Trump also called out Pfizer and is now questioning some of the reports that he was given by Pfizer during his time as president in his first term during the COVID outbreak.
And now the president is starting to question whether or not these pharmaceutical companies fabricated their numbers and fabricated their reports to sell their vaccines or their death shots, their death jabs, as I like to call them.
So it's good to see President Trump finally asking questions about the shots, the jabs, because, you know, I know President Trump was proud about Operation Warp Speed, but everybody always kind of cringed when he would show support for Operation Warp Speed because everybody kind of wanted to know why he was celebrating a mission that many people now know and has been proven by countless people over and
over again was not as effective as people want you to believe.
And now it's coming out that all of these vaccines, aka gene therapy jabs that were created in labs over eight months, they didn't even have enough time to be studied or properly tested.
The package inserts are empty.
They're blank, literally blank.
If you look at the package inserts, because these companies know that they can't really provide accurate information about these so-called vaccines because they kind of whipped them up in a laboratory over eight months, right?
They're not safe and they're not effective as the politicians in Washington, D.C. and people like Dr. Anthony Fauci lied and told us for years that they were.
So I think that a lot more people are going to soon find out that they poisoned themselves and they gave themselves long-term health issues and disabilities by taking these gene therapies known as COVID vaccines.
And my next guest joining me tonight to discuss some of these cover-ups with Big Pharma, particularly with Johnson Johnson, one of the most well-known, famous big pharma companies, probably one of the most famous brands.
You probably have their products in your medicine cabinet or within your bathroom, whether it be soap or medicines or any kind of products.
I mean, they manufacture so many products that we've been told that we can trust and we've been told over years and years are safe and effective to give to children, to take when we're sick.
And, you know, we don't even question it because we see their advertisements on TV and it's just been taught to us from such a young age that Johnson Johnson is a trusted company.
But joining me now to discuss this new bombshell study about how Tylenol could be a leading cause for autism and ADHD and children, as well as many other cover-ups involving Johnson Johnson, is Gardiner Harris, who is an award-winning reporter.
He was the former public health reporter for the New York Times, and he is the author of the new book, No More Tears, The Dark Secrets of Johnson and Johnson.
So, Gardiner, thank you so much for joining me tonight on Lumer Unleash.
It's a pleasure to have you.
Really excited to have you on tonight to discuss this new study and also your new book, which people on the left and the right.
I mean, you're bringing people who absolutely hate each other together over the amazing information in your book.
So it's a pleasure to have you on tonight.
Oh, I think you need to unmute yourself.
you're muted on your end.
tim pool
I think he's muted.
you Thank you.
laura loomer
We'll wait for him to connect.
He's having some audio issues.
I think he's muted.
So hopefully he'll unmute himself momentarily and we'll bring him on.
But Gardiner has published this new book.
And it's pretty interesting because, you know, he's had a very long career working at publications like The Wall Street Journal and also the New York Times.
And so he has a lot of perspective working within the mainstream media and reporting on the issue of big pharma and big pharma's cover-up and big pharma's influence within our public health policy as an award-winning former journalist and now also an award-winning well best-selling author.
Do we have him now?
Is his audio connected?
Because I'd really love to get this interview started.
He's still connecting right now.
We're going to get into his book tonight once he's able to connect.
But if you're interested in Buying a book for your fall reading, or you're just interested in reading a new book.
His book, No More Tears, The Dark Secrets of Johnson Johnson.
It explores how Tylenol, one of America's most trusted household brands, also carries serious risks that Johnson Johnson has downplayed.
And within his book, and we're going to talk about this tonight once he's able to connect, he also gets into other products that are manufactured by Johnson Johnson.
I believe 10 products listed in his book that we have been told are safe and effective products, over-the-counter products that millions of Americans consume on a daily basis that could potentially be lethal to you and your children, products that you may be actively consuming right now, or people in your family are actively consuming.
How's his audio now?
Still connecting.
All right.
Well, he's coming on momentarily.
I want to save all this content for him to get into because it's all in his book.
So we just have to wait a moment for his audio.
We have him now.
unidentified
Gardiner, can you hear me?
Nope, not yet.
laura loomer
Well, we're going to go through a timeline while we're waiting for him to connect.
In 1955, Tylenol, or the active ingredient, acetametophen, is introduced as an over-the-counter pain reliever and fever reducer, and it is marketed as safer than aspirin for children.
In the 1970s, internal safety concerns began surfacing.
Research showed that there was a gap between the recommended dose and overdose, and that the gap between the recommended dose and overdose potential was extremely small with risks of serious liver damage.
And you have to ask yourself, right?
This is 1955 in the 1970s.
And here we are now today in 2025.
And yet you can still buy bulk bottles of Tylenol.
I mean, if you go to Costco, for example, you can get a thousand pills in a bottle.
You can get a thousand of these pills in one bottle.
And so if this medication has the potential to cause serious liver damage, and we're now learning through this study that it can cause autism and ADHD if taken by pregnant women, you have to ask yourself, why is it so readily available?
I believe we now have him finally, right?
Can you hear me, Gardiner?
gardiner harris
I can hear you.
Can you hear me, Laura?
Sorry.
laura loomer
I can finally hear you.
You had some audio issues.
I think you were muted on your end, but it's all right.
I held down the fort while we were waiting for you.
But without further ado, it's a pleasure to have you on the program tonight.
I want to give you a moment to introduce yourself and talk about your book.
I was explaining while you were fixing your audio issue, kind of the timeline with Tylenol, right?
When it was first introduced on the market in 1955, and how we've known about the risk for severe liver damage since the 1970s.
And now with this new study that's been published by the Harvard Public Health School, we're now learning that pregnant women who are taking it, and there's pregnant women who take Tylenol on a daily basis because OBGYNs and general practitioners tell you that Tylenol is safe.
It's like you take it like it's candy.
I was explaining that I carry it in my purse and so many people have it in their bags, their medicine cabinets.
They sell it at the airport.
I mean, everywhere you go, Walgreens, CBS, you can buy little kits of Tylenol.
You can buy it at Costco, Sam's Club, you name it.
You can buy a thousand bottles at a time and nobody really thinks anything of it.
So you're the expert.
You're the one who published the book.
I want to let you, you know, talk about this.
Why did you decide to give up your career working as an award-winning journalist at the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal to pursue a career writing books and exposing big pharma?
gardiner harris
Well, thanks for again for having me, Laura.
Sorry about the mix up on the audio.
I left journalism because I could no longer stand this company participated in the deaths of at least 2 million Americans and nobody seemed to know about this and nobody was writing about it.
I couldn't really write about it at the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal.
This comes from one of the largest advertisers in the world.
unidentified
Call him and tell him.
laura loomer
I don't know what's going on with his audio and his video.
Perhaps he has a bad connection, which is a shame because I really wanted to do this interview tonight.
My producer is going to call him and hopefully able to fix his connection.
gardiner harris
Are you back?
unidentified
I'm back.
Yes.
gardiner harris
Are you back?
laura loomer
I'm back.
I'm back.
I think it's an issue with your Wi-Fi.
I don't know if you're in an area with a bad, bad connection, but hopefully you can get a stronger Wi-Fi connection.
gardiner harris
I'll go to a stronger Wi-Fi.
This is a company that has done harm to the American public than any company in history.
And can you hear me, Laura?
laura loomer
Yeah, that's better.
Keep on walking towards that signal because otherwise it's choppy.
Well, we'll figure this out.
Here, I'm back there.
gardiner harris
Good Wi-Fi.
Let's go.
laura loomer
Okay, now he has good Wi-Fi.
gardiner harris
Right.
So, so I decided to write a book to bring many of these stories together so that people understand what's going on.
And I have to say, Laura, one of the biggest surprises for me is how surprising the Tylenol section of my book has been for readers.
The reason that Tylenol is so dangerous is that everybody thinks it's so safe.
It is not.
It is by far the most dangerous over-the-counter medicine sold in this country.
And as you and I talked about before, one of the reasons it's so dangerous is that acetaminophen, the active ingredient in Tylenol, is found in many other drugs as well.
It's found in Nyquil, in Dayquil, and a lot of these flu medicines.
And you get the flu, you take Tylenol, and then you also take Nyquil or Daquil, and you don't realize that you're poisoning yourself.
The problem with Tylenol is that the recommended dose for extra strength Tylenol is the maximum dose.
It's the only over-the-counter medicine in which that's the case.
And in fact, the FDA, which has much more control over prescription medicines, has now limited prescription pills to 350 milligrams, where you can get 500 milligrams in extra strength Tylenol, which is crazy.
It's the only drug in which the prescription dose is lower than the over-the-counter dose.
The FDA has known about these problems for decades, has done nothing largely because Johnson Johnson and other big pharma companies have captured the FDA.
They now pay the salaries of most FDA medical officers.
And so these FDA officials see these big companies as their primary customer, not the American public.
unidentified
Right.
laura loomer
Why do you think the FDA has not broadcasted the dangers of acetaminophen to the American people?
I mean, this is something when you and I were talking about this, I mean, it's pretty, it's pretty shocking because if you go to your, you know, just your, your regular, you know, family practitioner or your general practitioner and you're like, oh, you know, I don't feel well.
I just feel like I have a sore throat or I've got some aches and I've got some pains and I've got the snivels.
They will tell you, oh, well, you know, I don't know if they really want to prescribe you an antibiotic.
So why don't you go take some dayquil or some Nyquil?
And then if you get some aches and pains, also take some Tylenol.
And what's crazy is if you look at the active ingredient in all of these medicines, it's the same, it's the same, it's the same ingredient.
And so, you know, when you, when you look at the fact that the recommended dose is not far off from what they consider as the overdose dose, why is it that these doctors are encouraging their patients to take, you know, the basically the same, the same drug, it's just a different name, right?
Whether you want to call it Nyquil, Dayquil, or Tylenol.
Why is it that there's just such this laissez-faire approach within American medicine to encourage people to pop Tylenol like it's candy, right?
Because ever since I was a kid, I mean, it's been widely available.
They have Tylenol for kids, they have Tylenol PM.
I mean, they must have 20 different types of Tylenol when you go to the pharmacy.
Tylenol for arthritis, Tylenol for kids, Tylenol PM.
I mean, they market this to every single demographic of people.
And I mean, at the end of the day, it's the same ingredient.
And there's really no stopping somebody from overdosing on this because it's so widely available.
gardiner harris
So the original reason that Tylenol has this reputation for safety is that back in the 1970s, doctors realized that among all the pain pills, only Tylenol did not increase the risk of ulcers.
And back in the 70s, ulcers were a huge problem.
It wasn't until 1982 that researchers realized that ulcers are caused by a very common bacteria.
So now when you get an ulcer, you are prescribed a common antibiotic and that cures the ulcer.
It used to be, remember, that George Herbert Walker Bush, countless high-profile Americans got ulcers, lived with this terrible pain, and often many people died from it.
People who watched Downton Abbey will remember when the Lord himself in Downton Abbey threw up blood and collapsed on the table from a burst ulcer.
That doesn't happen anymore.
So Tylenol's relative safety of the stomach doesn't really matter.
And what's come to the fore is that Tylenol is so dangerous first to your liver as an adult and second to the neurodevelopment of fetuses and babies.
Now, Laura, there are contradictory studies about Tylenol's association with autism.
There are a lot of studies that show that Tylenol does increase the risk of autism if women take it during pregnancy.
There are some other studies that show there is no link.
But the cautionary principle, I think, and I think this administration will soon conclude, is let's warn women because more than half of pregnant women in the United States take Tylenol at some point during their pregnancies because they're told that it's the safest pill to take, that it is very safe.
Now, what people will argue is, look, when you get a fever, when you're pregnant, that itself is a risk to the fetus.
And so pregnant women who get a fever need some kind of treatment.
And if that happens, you can talk to your doctor.
But only around 6 or 7% of pregnant women get a fever.
The vast majority of Tylenol's use in pregnancy is for just standard aches and pains.
And I think most women, if they were told, look, if you take this drug during pregnancy, you're going to increase your risks of autism in your baby.
Most of that use would go away.
And similarly, there's a bunch of studies about the use of Tylenol in infants and small children that suggest a similar neurodevelopment risk.
And, you know, I think a lot of parents use Tylenol because they actually think it's safer than ibuprofen, even though ibuprofen for children is almost certainly much safer for the liver and for neurodevelopment issues and just as effective in resolving pain and fever.
laura loomer
Yeah, that is true because, I mean, I'm not a doctor and I want to make that very clear to my viewers and you're not a medical doctor either.
And so we're just giving you information from Gardner's book and also from these publicly available studies.
So, you know, if you're watching this and you're pregnant or you're watching this and you're debating not taking Tylenol anymore, we're certainly not telling you to do that.
Just you should speak with your physician.
But it is interesting because even as a kid, when I was growing up, I remember being told, oh, take Tylenol instead of ibuprofen because you could get, you could get like internal bleeding if you take ibuprofen.
I mean, these are just things, whether they're true or not, that are injected right into our psyche From a very young age.
And then we're told, wow, Tylenol is so safe.
And honestly, I've been told my whole life that Tylenol was safe.
I did not know about this until about two weeks ago.
And I started reading more about it.
I started reading more about it when I saw this study come out and it really piqued my interest.
And now, I mean, I do not have children.
I hope to have children someday, but I'm definitely not taking Tylenol now if I ever get pregnant because this study is enough to freak me out.
So, that being said, do you think that Tylenol should be banned?
Or do you think that the FDA and HHS just needs to demand that the manufacturers of Tylenol put explicit warnings on the bottles and that the FDA make it explicitly clear to pregnant and nursing women and mothers of young children that if you take Tylenol, your child could develop autism or an increased risk of having ADHD and other type of disorders?
gardiner harris
You know, we're going to see what the FDA ends up doing.
Again, I think I've spent my career giving people more information, not less.
I think people will want to know this information.
But Laura, it's part of a pattern of behavior of Johnson Johnson, on the one hand, lying about the risks and benefits of its many, many products.
And, you know, I, in my book, I talk about, for instance, baby powder.
We now know that Johnson Johnson sold baby powder for decades that was contaminated with asbestos and that tens of thousands of women died.
We now know that they sold a cancer medicine, even though they secretly knew that this medicine was miracle grow to tumors.
We know that they sold an antipsychotic medicine that they secretly knew led boys to grow breasts.
And tens of thousands of young, vulnerable boys had these permanent breasts because Johnson Johnson kept this secret and illegally sold this medicine, RISPRDAL, for children.
The same thing happened with metal-on-metal hip implants that they knew would disintegrate into poisonous metal ions.
The same thing happened with vaginal mesh.
This is a company where criminality and lies are the rule, not the exception.
And that's how we got to this place over many decades that Tylenol is seen as the safest medicine, even though it is in fact the most dangerous over-the-counter medicine sold.
And there's simply no doubt about that.
laura loomer
So, why do you think that Tylenol and Johnson Johnson have been able to evade a lot of these rigorous randomized control trials that other medicines are subjected to?
I don't think most Americans know that these issues with Tylenol date all the way back to the 1950s.
And so, why is it that, you know, with all these other medications, or at least that was supposed to be the case before COVID?
I think things kind of went haywire around COVID.
I mean, that was that's the reason why, that's the reason why I never took the job specifically as I was like, I'm not injecting myself with something that wasn't even studied longer than six to eight months.
I mean, I'm not medications have to go through trials for 10 to 15 years before they can be put on the market.
So, I just thought it was completely insane that they were encouraging every single person in the world to take a vaccine.
And now we're finding out that a lot of these medications that millions of Americans, I think everybody watching right now has probably taken Tylenol at some point in their life, has not gone through a rigorous randomized controlled trial.
So, why is that?
And do you think that there's ever going to be a period in time where medications that have been on the market for decades are paused and we're going to see the FDA conduct these trials before they're put back on the market?
gardiner harris
So, another section of my book is about Johnson Johnson's COVID vaccine, which, by the way, Laura, was by far and away the most dangerous of the many COVID shots.
It caused Pfizer?
Oh, sure.
It caused a neurological disorder called Guillaume Barre syndrome.
It was quietly withdrawn by the FDA more than two years ago.
And as you know, Pfizer's and Moderna's shots are still sold.
I am not an expert on the mRNA vaccines.
I know all about JNJ's vaccine, and I can assure you that JJ's vaccine is by far the most dangerous of the COVID shots.
It caused a clotting disorder in relatively young women.
It caused neurological disorders.
It was withdrawn throughout the world and quietly so.
And, you know, one of the great scandals of COVID, and it's strange to me that it's gotten so little attention, is that Johnson Johnson knew about nearly all of these problems, including a terrible contamination episode at its own manufacturing facility while its chief executive,
Alex Gorski, was at the White House standing beside President Biden and soaking up all this acclaim for supposedly saving the world.
The company knew that it was not actually going to save the world, that millions, tens, hundreds of millions of doses were going to be condemned, and yet it continued this PR campaign that it was indeed saving the world.
And again, it's because lies are the norm at Johnson Johnson, not the exception.
And that's what you see throughout.
Why don't we know all of this about the dangers of Tylenol, even though the FDA has convened expert advisory panels again and again and again and again over decades?
And those panels told the FDA that it needed to increase the urgency of the warnings on Tylenol and needed to consider taking away the approval of extra strength Tylenol.
And the FDA never did it because the FDA is captive to Johnson Johnson.
I tell a story in the book about 2012 when Johnson Johnson's chief executives saved hundreds of FDA jobs from layoffs.
And from there on out, the FDA allowed multiple dangerous products of Johnson Johnson to remain on the market long after their dangers were known.
And despite obvious evidence of criminal behavior from the executives, refused to prosecute those executives.
laura loomer
So why do you think that the new FDA director has been so quiet about this?
I mean, we were told during the campaign season that we were going to have revolutionary change at HHS and that under Kennedy and Macari, that we were going to see tons of changes as it relates to holding big pharma accountable for lying about vaccines and lying about the safety and effectiveness of medications and all of big pharma's corruption.
Do you think that this is in the works?
Or do you have any inside information that they plan on releasing this information to the public?
Or you just said that the FDA has been completely captured by companies like Johnson Johnson.
So do you think that the current Trump administration FDA is also captured by companies like Johnson Johnson?
gardiner harris
The FDA's budget is underwritten by large drug makers.
I think until that changes, until the FDA's salaries are paid for by taxpayers instead of by companies, this agency is always going to be captive to drug makers.
Having said that, I think that there are hopes within this administration that things may change.
Just last month, Macari held an advisory committee hearing about Talc, the key ingredient in Johnson's baby powder for more than a century.
And Macari told that advisory committee at the very beginning of the meeting that science has been clear since the early 1990s that Talc is carcinogenic.
And he basically threw Johnson Johnson under the bus because the FDA has for decades supported the safety of Talc, even though hundreds of tests of Johnson Johnson's baby powder showed that it had asbestos contamination and the FDA did nothing.
Finally, just last month, the FDA declared that all talcum powder products are going to be thought of as carcinogenic unless proven otherwise.
And I was surprised that this didn't make more news.
I think just that meeting alone will cost Johnson Johnson tens of billions of dollars in subsequent litigation around Johnson's baby powder.
Because remember, 93,000 people have sued the company over the dangers of Johnson's baby powder.
If they now pronounce that Tylenol is associated with autism, you can see a similar wave of lawsuits from people who have autistic children and say that they took Tylenol during pregnancy and see what happened.
So I think it's a remarkable potential change in the direction of the FDA.
But overall, Laura, I sort of despair about the FDA genuinely protecting the public health until the FDA's own salaries are actually paid for by taxpayers instead of companies like Johnson and Johnson.
laura loomer
So with that being said, do you think that if Tylenol had never existed and it were being introduced to the market today, like let's just say Tylenol never existed over the last several decades since 1955, and it was just being invented in the year 2025.
Do you think that it would be approved by the current FDA to go onto the market?
Or do you think that it would fail these, they call them randomized control trials?
Do you think that Tylenol would even be able to pass a randomized controlled trial?
gardiner harris
There is no chance that Tylenol extra strength would be approved today by the FDA or any regulatory agency around the world.
There is no agency in the world that would approve an over-the-counter medicine at a dose that is not only the highest allowed dose, but is also the last area of safety in that dose.
If you take even one extra pill in a day, and in fact, many people take Tylenol at the recommended dosage and still experience liver failure.
In fact, if you are a drinker and you don't have to be drinking while you take Tylenol, but if you drink two drinks a night, which is the average for most American men, you are far more susceptible to liver failure from Tylenol than people who don't drink.
And again, these warnings on the over-the-counter version of the drug are not nearly as strong as they are on the prescription version of the drug.
And that contradiction would never happen today.
One of the problems with Tylenol is we don't actually know how it works.
Unlike other NSAIDs like ibuprofen, the theory about Tylenol is that it somehow interacts with cannabinoid receptors, you know, the stuff that you get from marijuana.
But as we now know with the legalization of marijuana, marijuana is associated with a vast increase in schizoid affective disorders.
Like people lose their minds on if they take a lot of marijuana.
And so here we have an over-the-counter medicine that is going on those same channels.
I just think the cautionary principle would have FDA ask far more questions if this drug came before it today rather than obviously in the 1950s when companies didn't have to prove much about either safety or efficacy.
I mean, the problem with Tylenol is that it just doesn't work that well.
And that's why you have to boost the dose.
And the dose, of course, with extra strength is just too dangerous for you.
laura loomer
Yeah, I forget like a few years ago, I had a surgery and I remember they actually gave me prescription Tylenol.
I think it was after, believe it or not, I think it was after I had my wisdom teeth taken out.
And I remember laughing.
I was like, oh, we're going to give you a prescription for Tylenol.
I was like, why would you give me a prescription for Tylenol?
I have a Costco membership.
I could just go buy a bottle of a thousand right now.
And I was thinking to myself, like, am I really going to go to the pharmacy and go pay all this, you know, like an extra fee to go get a prescription for Tylenol when I could just take this myself?
And I thought it was kind of silly.
Like, what is the point of getting a prescription for 800 milligrams of Tylenol when I could just pop, you know, several of the 200 milligram pills over the counter?
I just thought it was strange that you could even get a prescription for Tylenol, given the fact that you can literally buy an entire bulk-size container of Tylenol.
I mean, I literally have one in my kitchen cabinet right now prior to learning about all of this from Costco or Sam's Club because you just were told.
I mean, I was told growing up and my own, you know, my, I came up, I came from a medical family.
My mother's a nurse, my father's a doctor.
And I was just always told, oh, you know, just buy your, buy your medicines from Costco.
You can get them for a good deal in bulk.
So I just have all these like really large bottles of medicine in my medicine cabinet.
And yeah, I don't think anything of it.
But it is strange that, like you said, there's more warnings on the prescription of Tylenol.
But what is the point of prescribing a prescription of Tylenol when you can buy it in bulk?
It just never made sense to me, just like when you get high-dose ibuprofen, because it's the same ingredient.
I don't know what your thoughts are on that, but I just thought it was kind of stupid that they would even prescribe that to you.
Like, why not just tell me to go to Walgreens and buy a bottle of Tylenol?
gardiner harris
So let me just say, first off, I love Costco, just like you.
It's, you know, I go there every couple of weeks.
It's like, I love buying things in bulk.
Second, the prescription that you got was almost certainly for a combination of Tylenol with codeine, which is an opioid, and is a very popular sort of first step on the opioid ladder and is a very popular combination.
And in fact, the reason why Johnson Johnson got into the opioid business, and we haven't even talked about this.
I mean, Laura, most of your listeners, nearly all of your listeners, will know the story, the supposed story about the opioid crisis that Purdue Pharma and the Sacklers caused the opioid crisis.
That is not even close to being true.
About 10% of the bodies that showed up in morgues during the prescription opioid crisis had a Purdue Pharma product in their system.
60% had a Johnson Johnson product in their system.
And the ability of Johnson Johnson to escape all accountability and all bad news, you can see just in the coverage of the opioid crisis.
Johnson Johnson was arguably a much bigger player in creating the opioid crisis than Purdue Pharma and the Sacklers.
And yet, all of the stories, all of the TV series, all of the podcasts are about Purdue Pharma and the Sacklers.
And that's because Purdue Pharma was a tiny one product company that had no power in the whole healthcare system.
You asked me why your doctors always talk to you about Tylenol.
It's partly because Johnson Johnson pays a huge number of American physicians to be their, quote, consultants.
There's a huge number of the top academics at Yale, Harvard, Stanford, and others who are consultants to Johnson Johnson.
And so, you know, when I was doing this book, I called so many of these people who were my friends for decades.
I told them what I was doing and they said, are you nuts, Gardner?
Do you know what kind of lawyers these people have?
You know, Johnson Johnson has spent $35 billion on litigation expenses since 2013, which is roughly 10 times more than the nearest company on litigation expenses.
So it's basically a law firm with a small, you know, drug company and a small medical device company attached.
And as a result, it scares the bejesus out of doctors, lawyers, regulators, and everyone else in the medical system.
It is the colossus standing astride every part of the system.
And the result is that the mainstream media just didn't tell the right story about the opioid crisis.
I tried at the New York Times to tell that story again and again and again, and I was shut down.
And that is true of reporters in countless media organizations who tried to do these tough stories.
Johnson Johnson called the headquarters of the company, including Fox News, told them that if they ran this story, they would lose a huge share of their ads and the stories were killed.
That's why Purdue Pharma got all the blame and Johnson Johnson, a much bigger player, got none.
laura loomer
I think also that's another part of RFK's agenda that I support is cracking down on their ability to advertise on mainstream media networks because that's where they get the bulk of their money.
These news organizations is from their advertisement deals with big pharma.
And so if they start regulating the way that these companies are able to advertise on news stations, I think that we will start to see more journalists like yourself be allowed.
It's not that you didn't want to talk about it.
It's that you were literally shut down and censored from within the New York Times from talking about this.
In closing, I want to ask you, because I know you said that this section was not in your book because your book was already so long, but perhaps you'll write another book too.
How many children do you think have gotten autism or ADHD from prenatal Tylenol exposure from their mothers taking Tylenol while they were pregnant?
gardiner harris
So I simply do not know that number and can't give you an estimate.
I am not a scientist.
But one of the really interesting things, Laura, is in these moments, 1982 Tylenol poisoning scare, there was another poisoning scare in 1986.
If you look at the increase in the autism diagnoses, when Tylenol came off the market during those brief scares, autism diagnoses suddenly flattened out.
So there has been this really interesting, you know, environmental study where we can see that when the public is uneasy about the safety of Tylenol, autism diagnoses stop going up.
Nearly 70% of pregnant women in the United States are estimated to take Tylenol at some point in their pregnancies.
It is a huge increase over the numbers in the 1970s.
Bobby Kennedy is right.
Autism diagnoses have been going up steadily.
Tylenol is not the only thing.
Obviously, the increasing age of fathers, you know, the older a father is, the more likely their child will be autistic.
There are multiple factors going into this increase in autism.
But, you know, I think for most women, when I talk to them and I tell them that there are studies that link Tylenol and autism, they wish they had known that information when they were pregnant.
And I think from a cautionary principle, it is high time that there was some warning on these, as you said, widespread medicines.
Tylenol is the most popular medicine sold in the world and has long been.
And that very popularity is what has stopped FDA from doing the right thing for decades.
laura loomer
Well, and your view is probably going to be attached by J and J and others as fringe.
I'm sure that they're going to have, you know, big crisis management firms come out and try to say that we're all about conspiracy theorists.
But for those who are watching, and look, I mean, I've been critical of Harvard and President Trump has been critical of Harvard for their woke agenda.
But look, we can find some common ground with Harvard in this and that the dean of Harvard School of Public Health, Andrea Baccarelli, agrees with you.
And before you came on tonight, I just showed that, you know, he just published his own study through Harvard School of Public Health about the use of prenatal use of Tylenol and the correlation to children with autism and ADHD.
So people can look at that study.
We showed it before Gardiner came on tonight.
But if you're thinking that this is some like wackadoodle theory, you can't just, you know, brush it aside.
And I think that Johnson ⁇ Johnson is going to have some serious issues because now you even have Harvard School of Public Health, which they're constantly citing all the studies in these Ivy League public health journals, is now coming out and saying, hey, it looks like prenatal Tylenol usage in pregnant women is corresponding to increased numbers of autism and ADHD.
So I think they're going to have some issues and we're going to see the Overton window shift as it relates to this topic of the safety of Tylenol.
Lastly, in closing, before you plug your book and all, what warning do you think should be put on the label for Tylenol?
You have obviously done extensive research.
I encourage everybody to read your book.
We have a photo of your book.
We'll flash it on the screen right now.
No more tears.
The dark secrets of Johnson and Johnson.
They can get it on Amazon.
They can get it.
Where else can they buy your book?
I know that it's available on Amazon.
Are you selling signed copies?
Where's the best place for people to order your book?
gardiner harris
So it should be in just about every bookstore near you.
It was on the, as you said, it was on the bestseller list.
It's in most bookstores.
You can order it on Amazon.
Amazon actually called it the best nonfiction book of 2025.
The Financial Times has called it one of the best nonfiction books of 2025.
laura loomer
And when I said that you were bringing people together who hate each other, Whoopee Goldberg and the women over at The View seem to hate me.
But from my understanding, back in July, Whoopi Goldberg put your book on her summer favorite list or something like that.
So again, the women on The View and Laura Loomer can finally agree on something.
You should read this book.
You should read this book.
gardiner harris
Sure.
And just to be clear, Laura, obviously there are conspiracy theories and then there are conspiracies, right?
And my book describes the three largest, costliest, and deadliest criminal conspiracies in American history.
And I have the documents to prove it.
They're in the book.
There's nearly 100 pages of endnotes in this book.
You can go onto my website, gardnerharris.com, where I have uploaded nearly thousands of internal company documents.
I have grand jury files, as you and I discussed.
Grand juries are the last truly secret institutions in American life.
Reporters almost never get grand jury files.
I have hundreds of files from three separate grand juries looking at Johnson Johnson.
So these are not theories.
These are clear criminal cases.
And nearly 2 million Americans have died, which is more deaths than all the wars in all of American history.
laura loomer
That's more deaths than the 1.2 million Americans who died from COVID.
Obviously, a lot more are going to die when they start dropping dead from these vaccines, as we've been seeing.
But the China virus, as I call it, 1.2 million Americans were killed by the China virus.
And so you're saying that 2 million Americans have been killed as a result of Johnson ⁇ Johnson products.
And I know that you have a list.
It's not just Tylenol.
You have a list of about nine to 10 products that are manufactured by Johnson Johnson that people have been told are safe and effective for use and probably have in their own medicine cabinets who have used with their own children.
And these products could be killing you or giving you cancer or poisoning your liver or giving your kid autism.
gardiner harris
Still in use to this day.
And, you know, the point is read the book to know how to protect yourself from these lies.
And, you know, Laura, people obviously are angry at you all the time about your skepticism about medical authorities and the rest.
And my answer to them is: look, my book proves that the largest healthcare products conglomerate on the face of the planet lies routinely about its products, that the FDA knows about these lies and does nothing about them.
So clearly, there is a reason for the growing skepticism in the United States about medical authorities.
And those authorities need to do clean up their act.
And the reason they don't clean up their act is that Johnson ⁇ Johnson to this day gives $3 billion a year along with other drug makers to American physicians, the doctors who are treating you and your children.
So it's it, there is a reason that people are have growing skepticism about the entire system.
And my book talks about multiple, multiple lies that have cost every American family a family member over the last 50 years.
laura loomer
So lastly, and I had asked you this before, I'd asked you about your book.
What warning, right?
Given, given the fact that you've published this book, and I encourage everybody to read it, I'm going to read it too.
I, you know, I wanted to have an authority and an expert on tonight to talk about this when I learned about this study because I just find it to be so shocking.
And I do think that we're going to see some announcements from HHS, hopefully, and maybe we'll see this as one of the interventions listed by RFK Jr. when he releases his highly anticipated autism report this month.
So what warning do you think should be put on the label for Tylenol?
Like if you had a magic wand and you worked at the FDA or you could order Macari to do whatever you wanted in one day, what would be the label that you would put on the Tylenol bottle?
gardiner harris
Some studies have linked the use of prenatal Tylenol with an increase in autism in children.
Talk to your doctor about the benefits and risks of using this drug during pregnancy or early infancy for your child.
Something along those lines.
Fair enough.
laura loomer
And then additionally, additionally, I know I asked you what you think the label should be.
If you were FDA director, and you had the authority to either ban Tylenol outright or to put a warning label on the bottle, what would you do?
What do you think is in the best interest of the American people and people all around the world?
I mean, people all around the world are taking Tylenol.
Would you ban it altogether?
Do you think it's that unsafe?
Or do you think that it just needs to have more regulations and more of a warning label, a prominent warning label on the bottle?
gardiner harris
I'm not a big ban person.
I think people can make their own judgments.
I do think that the FDA should undergo a serious review about whether extra strength Tylenol, that dosage of 500 milligrams, should remain over the counter, considering that they only allow 350 milligrams in the prescription version of the pill.
I personally think that extra strength Tylenol should be in no one's medicine cabinet.
But I am willing to listen to the debate about this, but this drug should have a much stronger warning about liver failure.
The prescription version of the drug has a very strong warning saying this drug has been linked with catastrophic liver damage.
Do not take more than the recommended dosage.
The over-the-counter version of the drug has a much weaker warning.
And obviously, as we've been discussing, I think there should be some mention of the link between prenatal and immediate postnatal use of Tylenol and the increase in autism and ADHD diagnoses.
laura loomer
Well, I agree with you.
It's been a pleasure, Gardner, having you on my program tonight.
I encourage everybody to read your book, No More Tears, The Dark Secrets of Johnson and Johnson.
You can get it on, well, you can get it from any bookstore.
You get it on Amazon.
And you can also get it on your website.
Again, your website and your social media, one last time for people who want to follow you or purchase your book or get in touch with you.
gardiner harris
Sure.
My website is gardenerharris.com.
My social media is at Gardner Harris.
laura loomer
Wonderful.
Well, Gardner, thank you so much for your bravery and your courage in taking on, you know, just the impossible, right?
So many people are too afraid to even go there because they think, wow, how am I going to go up against, you know, one of the wealthiest companies in America who has a team of lawyers just ready to sue my ass off if I dare even question their authority?
And it takes a lot of courage and it takes a lot of bravery as an independent journalist.
And I know what it's like as a fellow investigative journalist to be sidelined for talking about things people in positions high up don't want you talking about.
So I really appreciate your bravery and thank you so much for coming on my show tonight.
I hope you sell a ton of copies of your book so that not just not just to vindicate and validate all of your hard work, but also so that the American people and people watching can get the truth and hopefully save themselves from liver damage or save their children from becoming Autistic or having ADHD.
gardiner harris
Thanks for having me on, Laura.
laura loomer
Yeah, you're welcome.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
unidentified
I'm going to read that book here.
laura loomer
He's going to send me a signed copy.
And once I'm done reading it, I'm sure I will post all about what I think.
All right.
We have a special guest, kind of unexpected, but he's a dear friend of mine.
He's an American hero, an American patriot.
And President Trump just announced that he's actually awarding this man with the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
You may have heard over the weekend that Rudy Giuliani was in a horrific car accident with his producer, Ted Goodman.
And we are very thankful.
We are thankful to God that they survived.
And there was a lot of misinformation in the aftermath of the car accident that led people to think that Rudy Giuliani was paralyzed and that the crash was more severe than it actually was.
He is injured, but he's a fighter.
He is, as his son said on his Twitter account yesterday, the toughest son of a bitch I've ever had the honor of knowing in my life.
My friend and just overall American hero and patriot, Rudy Giuliani, wanted to pop into the show tonight to give us an update.
He's wearing a brace.
So you were severely injured, but as your son said, you're the toughest son of a bitch he's ever known in his life.
And I guess the fact that you're up late up at 10.30, 10.30 Eastern in your brace after getting out of the hospital yesterday, Mayor, is a testament to just how tough you truly are.
So I wanted to have you on tonight so that you could tell us how you're feeling because everybody is very worried about you.
rudy giuliani
I'm feeling like I'm recovering in the right way.
The doctors have described it to me.
Every single thing they've said works out.
I mean, I am in pain.
I would be silly not to tell you that.
unidentified
This brace helps a lot.
rudy giuliani
It kind of keeps everything together.
I have one fractured, I guess, like ligament or vertebrae.
I have one fractured vertebrae.
And they thought it was worse than that.
That's why it had those all those terrible.
They thought there were three or four that were fractured.
Turned out there was only one because the impact was tremendous.
The woman was doing about 65 or 70 miles an hour.
And we really got hit very, very hard.
And I have pains all over my body, but the only serious one is the broken back part.
And right now with this thing on doing the right rehab, I should be able to have it all come back together in four or five weeks.
And I'll be able to pretty much get around until then.
But this began by Ted and I stopping to help a woman who claimed she was the victim of a domestic abuse.
And we did.
And we got the police there.
And strangely, you'll find this.
She was the one that got arrested.
She was beating the heck out of the guy.
And he was hiding in the corner, like, I think like a poor frightened rabbit.
And she wanted us to take her away.
And I was very inclined to do that.
But Ted said, no, let's wait and check it out.
So we called the police and police came.
And the long and short of it was that she had cut him up and done all kinds of things to him.
And then as we were going away, we got hit by this other young woman who really, I think, was just rubbernecking to look at the arrest scene.
And all of a sudden, she just hit our car.
And the president called me.
You know what the president said to me the first thing?
He said, I bet she was good looking.
laura loomer
Well, that sounds like a very Trumpian thing to say.
And I'm really glad that we're going to be.
rudy giuliani
We've been friends for 40 years.
We've been friends for 40 years.
laura loomer
No, I know, but the president is always full of jokes.
You know, he's a very funny guy.
unidentified
He is.
laura loomer
He's like a comedian, you know?
So that's why I said it's a very Trumpian thing to say because he's always cracking jokes.
I honestly think he's one of the funniest people ever.
I think he's hilarious.
But the president called you and I understand that immediately after speaking with you after your accident, he announced on True Social that he was going to be awarding you the presidential medal of freedom.
And did he tell you that on the phone or were you kind of taken by surprise?
Did he announce it before he called you?
A lot of us want to know how that went down because obviously there's nobody more deserving of this honor at the highest level of our nation than you.
I mean, you're an absolute patriot.
We're coming up on the anniversary of 9-11.
And, you know, everybody knows how brave and patriotic you were in the aftermath of the worst Islamic terrorist attack on U.S. soil 24 years ago in the next nine days.
And so how did that go down?
If you don't mind sharing that conversation with us.
rudy giuliani
Sure.
The first call, it was just about the accident and what happened and a lot of teasing.
And Andrew was on that call also.
So we were doing a lot of teasing about it.
And I explained it to him.
I explained to him what happened and how it ended up being a big surprise that he was getting beaten up by her.
And I probably can't mention a few of the other jokes that came about as a result of that.
But he was cheering me up, basically.
And he said he wanted to see me in Washington and in Palm Beach and told me how well Andrew was playing golf.
And then I ended the conversation.
After that, I was discharged from the hospital.
I was driving home.
We stopped at a store to buy some things.
Do we need it at home?
And he called me in the car and he said, Mayor, this is a very well-deserved recognition, but I want to give you the presidential Medal of Freedom.
Then he explained it to me what it was, which I kind of knew, but not the history of it.
He goes, went into great detail about it.
And I said at the conclusion of the conversation, now, Mr. President, you've given me the only medicine that'll really cure me.
I feel perfectly fine now.
Nothing's going to bother me after that.
So now you've cured me of this and of COVID.
Because when I got COVID, it was only two weeks after him, he decided to prescribe all my medicines.
So if you ask him, he will tell you that he saved my life because he told the doctor all the medicines I should take.
And then every time I took a medicine, he would call me up and see how I was reacting to it.
unidentified
Wow.
laura loomer
I don't think anyone knows this story.
So you got COVID two weeks after President Trump got COVID and he told your doctor what to prescribe for you.
rudy giuliani
Oh, his doctor was, he gave me his doctor, his doctor had treated in about a three-week period.
He got COVID, Andrew got COVID, and I got COVID.
And his doctor took over my treatment.
And his doctor said, the president is dictating what I have to give you.
And one of the things that he gave me were these two high doses of steroids.
And he said, you're going to feel wonderful after this.
When you walk out of the hospital, you're going to have no pains and you're going to feel like you're 20 years younger.
Absolutely true.
I walked out of the hospital.
My knees used to bother me.
They didn't bother me.
Two weeks later, I woke up and I felt like an old man because it goes away.
laura loomer
What else did you take, if you don't mind me asking?
Because I know that the president received a lot of backlash for telling people to take hydroxychloroquine.
And he was one of the first early pushers of hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for COVID.
And they attacked him for it.
So if you don't mind sharing with us, like, what was the regimen that they gave you?
Because I think they would have to do that.
I mean, I know what they took.
rudy giuliani
I was one of the early supporters of hydroxychloroquine because the same doctor advised me, Dr. Zelenko.
And Dr. Zelenko treated 4,000 people with hydroxychloroquine.
And his record of success was unreal.
And what they did to hydroxychloroquine is murder.
They basically cut off what could have been an enormously effective interruption of COVID, including ivermectin, because it works in the first five or six days.
And instead of giving them that medicine, they held it back, largely because if that medicine were ever acknowledged to have worked the way it did, they never could have gotten the emergency use of the vaccine, and they would not have made billions and trillions of dollars.
It's an absolute disgrace.
It has nothing to do with science, medicine, or anything else.
It has to do with greed.
It reminded me of the mafia people or the Wall Street people.
They held back medicines because if you had a treatment for COVID, you wouldn't be able to get an emergency relief from the three years that would have been necessary to test the vaccine.
And Fauci changed his position in hydroxychloroquine.
He had written an article three years before saying it was a magic medicine.
Now all of a sudden it's going to kill you.
It was terrible or terrible what they did.
I mean, they don't care if they kill people as long as they make money and they're powerful.
laura loomer
Yeah, it's pretty shocking.
And, you know, in the previous segment before you came on, we were talking about, you know, the corruption in big pharma and all their cover-ups and all the lies that they've hidden from the American people for decades.
I mean, we were talking about the safety risk of people taking Tylenol when they're pregnant because a new study just came out showing that women who take Tylenol when they're pregnant have a higher risk of having children who are Autistic or children who have ADHD.
So whether it's Tylenol or the dangers of the COVID vaccines or lying about the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine, you're absolutely right.
And I know that President Trump just released a statement the other day talking about how his administration is going to be looking into the real numbers regarding the effectiveness of these COVID vaccines.
And he thinks that he's been duped by the big pharma companies, specifically Pfizer.
So hopefully we'll have more information from President Trump and HHS Secretary Kennedy in the next few weeks or over the next few months about these investigations.
But I really just wanted to bring you on to make sure that you are doing well.
And I mean, there's so much that we could talk about.
There's a lot that we could talk about.
President Trump was celebrating over the weekend, reducing the crime in Washington, D.C. You, of course, are famous for many things, including cleaning up the crime in New York City.
But now New York City has kind of turned into a cesspool again with tons of crime.
And we're looking at the possibility of having this Islamic communist mayor, Zoran Mandami, after we say goodbye to you tonight.
We're going to be talking about the Islamification of our country and this terrorist conference that they just hosted in Detroit, Michigan.
So thoughts on that?
Thoughts on the possibility of New York City having a Muslim communist mayor, especially as we are about to approach the 24-year anniversary of the 9-11 Islamic terrorist attacks, Mayor?
rudy giuliani
Well, it's about time, Laura, that we act realistically and honestly about the Muslim religion.
And when we talk about the fact that the Muslim religion results in an awful lot of attacks on killing people, like the one I probably was affected by the most, 9-11, there's a simple reason for it.
The Quran teaches that.
It also teaches the opposite, but it teaches that.
And therefore, people who want to can follow that as their creed, which is to kill the infidel, to kill the Jew, to kill the Christian.
And there's no religion where that amount of killing has taken place, anything like the Muslim religion.
And there's no religion I know of that aggressively teaches the killing of other people.
That has to be recognized, not euphemistically, but for real.
And we have to face up to it.
And it has to change.
Otherwise, they're going to continue to try to slaughter us forever.
laura loomer
Yeah, I mean, I think 24 years, I was eight years old when 9-11 happened.
And I just remember watching the aftermath of it.
And I think one of the biggest mistakes in the aftermath of 9-11 was made by George Bush when he stood on top of the rubble and he said that we were not at war with Islam.
I think looking back, it was a grave mistake to say that we were not at war with Islam.
We are at war with Islam.
I think that 24 years later, when you're looking at what's happening in the UK and the way that Muslims have taken over Europe and you have this demographic replacement where Europeans are being replaced by these Muslim invaders, and we look at the fact that 24 years after 9-11, we're about to have a Muslim communist mayor who celebrates Islamic jihadists.
I mean, did you ever think in the aftermath of 9-11 when you were standing on top of that rubble and pulling dead firefighters and cops out of that rubble, watching the city that you love fall to its knees because of Islamic terrorism?
Did you ever think 24 years later that New York City would be on the verge of having a Muslim communist mayor?
I mean, it's got to be really surreal.
You must feel like you live in the twilight zone, Mayor.
rudy giuliani
I do.
There are days I wake up and I'm not sure where I am, and that's one of them.
And I think that this euphemism about the Muslim religion is one of the great dangers that we face.
We have to face honestly what it teaches, how people can avoid it.
Some do, many don't.
And it's not, what did George Bush call it?
The hijacking of the religion.
The religion wasn't hijacked.
laura loomer
That is the religion.
rudy giuliani
It was interpreted the way it was written in the Quran.
Unfortunately, and tragically, if we stand up to that, maybe we can change it.
laura loomer
Yeah, I'm hoping that we'll see the Trump administration come out more forcefully against Islam.
I mean, before he ran for president, President Trump was very vocal about the Muslim threat, the Muslim problem in America.
But now it seems like, you know, it's kind of been watered down a bit.
Do you think that we're going to see the Trump administration designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization?
Do you think that the FBI should take action against the organizers of that terrorism conference that took place in Detroit, Michigan this weekend, where attendees were calling for political assassinations and they were calling for the F-35 supply chain to be hijacked and sabotaged by Palestinian Muslim activists?
rudy giuliani
I hope what they can do is return to what they used to do after 9-11, which is to conduct proper intelligence investigations of them.
When Obama came in, he killed all those intelligence operations because he was a real sympathizer.
And even on the day of September 11, I had a great deal of intelligence about Islamic terrorism.
We weren't afraid to investigate them.
But the FBI, starting with Obama, stopped investigating them.
It was almost like they were afraid to investigate them because Obama was a supporter.
And that has to stop.
And I think it has.
I don't see Cash Patel not investigating Islamic terrorists.
I see him giving that a lot of priority.
laura loomer
You do think that Cash Patel is giving a priority to Islamic terrorism?
rudy giuliani
Oh, I do think he on that for sure.
I know him and I know his views on it.
And I also know some of the things the FBI is doing.
And maybe it isn't happening in a second, but there's an awful lot of emphasis now on taking a lot of these things seriously and a recognition that the Muslim religion is very confusing.
It has dual messages.
You can read one part of the Quran and it can say you should love Jews and Christians.
You can read another part of the Quran and it should say it's your duty to kill them.
And you have to understand how that happened historically.
And tragically, the latter Quran, the one that becomes the authoritative last word of Muhammad, was to kill the infidel.
laura loomer
You know, as the mayor of New York City, coming up on the 24th anniversary of 9-11, what is your message to New Yorkers, some of whom, I mean, it seems like the younger generation has forgotten all about 9-11, sadly.
It seems like the real cause of 9-11 isn't really emphasized or taught in public schools to young students anymore in American history classes.
What is your message to the people of New York as we approached the November mayoral election in New York City?
What is your message to the people of New York as we potentially are about to witness a Muslim communist who sympathizes with Islamic terrorists become the next mayor of New York City?
rudy giuliani
It has to be to take the blinders off of, oh gosh, 175 years of Democratic brainwashing.
You know, we've only had like five or six Democratic, Republican mayors in 75 years.
It's been a Democrat city since boss tweed until now with a couple of Republicans and independents.
And that's about the only time we ever had any honesty.
So now they've got to take a good look at what's being pushed on them.
And unfortunately, New Yorkers, who are very well educated, very strong people, when they get down, they don't vote.
I'm convinced that if every New Yorker were required to vote, he would be defeated.
But they don't see the, they don't, for some reason, they don't see the importance of it.
Unfortunately, there's also three candidates against him.
So he's going to get the benefit of that anti-vote getting spread out among three.
And I do wish, although it's somewhat unrealistic, that they get together on one of them, because except for Curtis, who's my friend, and the other two I disagree with politically, Cuomo, wow, that'd be hard for me, but we're Adams.
But either one of them would be better.
They'd be known problems, not unknown problems.
laura loomer
Yeah.
And we now have over 1 million Muslims living in New York City, which is astonishing to think that that has happened.
Such a large demographic shakeup of New York City since 9-11.
Thoughts on that?
rudy giuliani
Yeah, I mean, you look at London, most popular name last year was Muhammad.
I have a hard time believing when I was growing up in Brooklyn that the biggest name was going to be Muhammad.
laura loomer
I know.
We want the most popular boy's name to be Rudy, you know, not Muhammad.
rudy giuliani
Rudy, I don't know, but Muhammad, the guy who killed Jews, killed Christians, and with a pedophile, I don't know.
laura loomer
Yeah, no, I'm right there with you.
You think that do you think that we're going to see President Trump crack down on this more over the next 3.5 years that he's in office?
Because I don't really see any other Republican having the balls to call out Islam if President Trump doesn't take advantage of his time in office to really strip these organizations of their 501c3 status and to really educate the American people about the threat of Islam in America.
What do you think?
rudy giuliani
I see Trump taking it on.
Yes, I do.
He understands it.
He sees it.
There are a lot of Muslims who would like to be delivered from it.
They just don't know how to.
And I see him as having the ability.
I don't exactly know the right way yet to do it.
I'd have to think about it more.
But I see him as having the ability to get to them.
There are a lot of Muslims who would like their way out of this, but they don't know how to get out of it without feeling like they're disloyal.
I saw this with the Italian people with the mafia.
Most Italians had nothing to do with the mafia, but a lot of them would defend it because they felt like if they didn't defend it, they weren't being loyal to their own people.
And I used to go tell them, they're not your people.
They're the group of your people that are evil.
Everybody has a group like that.
The most important thing is to follow and to emphasize the people that are good people.
And it happens with minority groups.
They tend to get very defensive.
The biggest problem with Muslims is not how many of them are evil or bad.
It's that the good ones feel constrained to speak out against them.
laura loomer
Because it's a death sentence in Islam.
It's a death sentence.
It's called apostasy.
And you can literally be killed from defecting from Islam in Muslim-majority countries if you are a Muslim who speaks out.
That's the reason why.
I mean, everybody would be scared to speak out if it was a death sentence.
rudy giuliani
That's a lot to face.
But you know, getting beyond evil in the world has always been a lot to face.
All the early Christians were martyrs.
I mean, so it's never been much different.
Somebody's got to break from it.
And those and those who are in countries like America, even in England and France, instead of having assimilated into America, England, and France, they've carried over their old ways, which makes it very difficult now for them to assimilate.
That has to be changed.
They have to be somehow reorganized so they follow the usual immigrant pattern.
When we say immigration was so great, what we mean is immigration and assimilation, not just immigration.
Immigration would have been terrible if people remained all separate.
It's the brilliance of assimilation that made America so great, not immigration.
laura loomer
Yeah, well, unfortunately, these people don't have the word assimilation or assimilate in their vocabulary.
So just look at London.
I don't think they know how to assimilate.
That's the whole point, right?
Mayor, anything else you want to tell the viewers tonight?
I know that you've been up late.
I don't want to keep you too long because obviously you're in pain and you're recovering.
I really appreciate you coming on.
I was really excited to hear from you today when you and your producer called me.
I was very worried about you.
I called your son the other day when I heard about your crash because there was so much misinformation online.
And I was like, oh my God, I hope he's okay.
So anything you want to, anything else you want to share with the viewers?
rudy giuliani
I want to thank you for your concern.
And I want to thank all your viewers and everyone else with all the wonderful messages they gave and their concern.
It means a lot at a time like that when you know the people are caring about you.
I think it gets you better a lot faster.
So I'm a very, very fortunate man.
And I have to tell you, the president cured me.
I mean, I'm all over my broken back.
I'll take a broken back.
And then the medicine is the Presidential Freedom Award.
I'll take that.
laura loomer
Well, I'm very excited for you.
Do we know when, do we know when the ceremony is going to be?
Has a date been set yet?
rudy giuliani
You know what he told me?
laura loomer
What do you say?
rudy giuliani
He said, keep watching and show up.
laura loomer
Keep watching.
rudy giuliani
I said, when will it be?
He said, keep watching and show up.
laura loomer
Well, that's wonderful.
Well, I'm so glad that you and President Trump have such a long-standing friendship and relationship.
And it's great that the president called you immediately and that he's honoring you with this incredible, incredible award.
rudy giuliani
Done that before.
laura loomer
You deserve it.
rudy giuliani
You deserve it more than anyone.
When you get sick, he's all over you.
He wants to treat you.
I told you.
laura loomer
Well, yeah, we'll call him Dr. We'll call him Dr. Trump.
President Trump and Dr. Trump.
rudy giuliani
You're doing a great job, Laura.
laura loomer
Thank you.
rudy giuliani
And you have a pair of, I can't allow it to say it, but you do.
laura loomer
Well, I appreciate that.
And, you know, I grew up, like I said, I was eight years old when 9-11 happened.
And my parents bought me the 9-11 Patriot concert series.
And I just remember growing up as a kid watching all the tribute concerts that you and others put on for all the firefighters and first responders.
And I don't know, it was like watching cartoons for me.
I used to watch it on repeat.
You'd think that I would watch it 100 times over because I just loved, I loved watching it.
I loved watching you growing up as a kid.
My parents bought those tapes for me.
And I grew up really idolizing you and watching you.
And really as a child of the war on terror, I was eight years old when 9-11 happened.
And it really shaped my worldview as a young child and inspired me to speak out.
I mean, I always tell people everything I needed to learn about Islam, I learned on 9-11 24 years ago.
So, and that is true.
But you're a hero.
You're an inspiration.
And it's kind of surreal growing up watching this as an eight-year-old and now having you on my show and calling you a friend.
So I'm just so grateful that you are okay and that and that it's not as severe as we were led to believe online.
But yeah.
rudy giuliani
Thank you.
God bless you.
laura loomer
You too.
Well, thanks so much for coming on and best witches.
I hope you feel better soon.
rudy giuliani
I will.
I know I will.
laura loomer
Thank you.
Wonderful.
What an amazing guy.
You know, I was messaging with him and his producer earlier because obviously he's a friend of mine.
And I spoke with his son, Mayor Giuliani.
And so I said, oh, why don't you just call in?
Because he texted me a photo of himself in his MAGA hat preparing for his show.
And I was like, oh, my God, you're crazy.
You just got out of the hospital and you're in a back brace and you're already doing your show.
He did a show tonight.
Can you believe it?
He literally just got discharged from the hospital yesterday and he's already doing a show.
So absolutely incredible.
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What an insane weekend.
While a lot of people were enjoying the long weekend, as Kamala Harris likes to say, barbecuing, going to the beach, hanging out.
I had the pleasure, and I say that sarcastically, of watching the People's Conference for Palestine.
Yes.
If you've been watching my show over the last few weeks, you've seen that we have been covering and reporting on this terror festival that they were hosting in Detroit, Michigan this weekend, believe it or not, a literal Palestinian terrorism conference on U.S. soil.
And we're going to get into that tonight.
We're going to show you all of the receipts that show you how the organizers and the speakers of this event were calling for political assassinations and doing things like advocating for the supply chain sabotage of the F-35 planes.
I mean, it's just unbelievable.
I can't even believe that these words are coming out of my mouth right now because it's just insanity that people like this are able to operate freely on U.S. soil.
So I'm going to play a lot of clips for you and I'm just going to let them do the talking because I don't really need to do much talking.
We're going to go through these clips and you're going to see firsthand tonight.
Some of these organizers, if you're unfamiliar with this conference, it should be all over the news, but it's not.
It's called the People's Conference for Palestine.
We can get the graphic up on the screen.
I've been talking about this and reporting on this for several weeks now.
But this conference took place from August 29th till August 31st while everybody was, like I said, enjoying their long weekend.
And a lot of reporters were off.
A lot of people were vacationing this weekend.
And every single news station should have been covering the type of rhetoric and support for Islamic terrorism that was coming out of this conference over the weekend.
But a lot of people were occupied with the long weekend.
Here you go.
People's Conference for Palestine.
You can click on that.
You can see for yourself.
Click on the first image because that takes you to their website, People's Conference for Palestine 2025.
Gaza is the compass, August 29th through 31st in Detroit, Michigan.
You can see here, Gaza is the compass.
This is our guiding principle for the second annual People's Conference for Palestine.
You can scroll down.
Gaza keeps our path true.
It reminds us of our direction and the struggle and the sacrifices that have been made by the Palestinian people.
It exposes the forces that we have to contend with on the path to liberation.
For this reason, Zionism and imperialism are waging a continuous genocide on Gaza.
And we, the people of the world, will fight at every turn to reject it.
With Gaza as our guide, people from all across North America will come together for a weekend to continue building and strengthening the movement for Palestinian liberation in North America.
Join us to strategize, prepare, and to utilize existing skills and capacity for our movement in this next phase of struggle.
So this is the ultimate get-together and conference.
This is like the Super Bowl, okay?
This is like the Super Bowl for everybody involved in the free Palestine movement.
And I mean, it was just like a who's who of who's supporting terrorism in America.
And Rashida Tlaib, Palestinian Muslim congresswoman from Michigan in the Democrat Party, spoke at this conference.
I want to just go ahead and just, you know, go straight to these clips.
I mean, look, you had all types of radical people speaking, but I mean, let's start out with clip number one, the Palestinian Conference intro speakers saluting the heroes of Gaza.
I mean, honestly, saluting the so-called martyrs, aka Hamas terrorists who go around killing innocent people.
This is how they opened up their conference is saluting the martyrs.
And they call them martyrs.
That's literally what Hamas calls the Palestinian terrorists that die in their struggle.
They call them martyrs.
And all throughout the conference there in Detroit, they had posters honoring the martyrs.
They said, glory to the martyrs.
Glory to Hamas.
Glory to Hamas.
So let's go ahead and play this clip so you can see for yourself.
And I want to give a special shout out to an account on X at the Stew Stew Studio, who spent his entire weekend clipping all of these clips from all of the speeches at the People's Conference for Palestine.
You could follow him.
You could follow him on X. Let's pull up his account here so people can see his account.
I asked him to come on my show tonight, but he was preoccupied and said that he would love to come on in the near future.
But he's an investigative analyst at the Manhattan Institute.
And he posts, these clips were publicly available, but he went through the speeches and clipped a lot of the most provocative and damning parts of these speeches.
So if you want to follow accounts that are documenting the rise of terrorism in America, I would encourage you to follow at the Stew Stew studio.
Let's go ahead and play clip number one.
unidentified
Salute to the heroic people of Gaza.
Salute to our martyrs, those who are killed but never die.
Salute to our prisoners.
We draw strength from them and their bravery guides us forward in our struggle.
Salute to the wounded and to the steadfast.
Salute to the children of the stones, to the orphans.
Salute to the unbreakable spirit of Palestine.
And salute to the free people of the world, the ordinary, all of us here who have given our times, who have given our lives to an extraordinary struggle, the struggle for the liberation of Palestine.
Brothers and sisters, friends and comrades, welcome to the second annual People's Conference for Palestine.
I am Flaher Dakne, an organizer with the Palestinian Youth Movement, and it is my honor to serve alongside my friend and comrade Rama as your MC through the duration of our historic conference.
Our historic conference, whose guiding principle is Gaza, is our compass.
Gaza, a tiny strip of besieged land which has transformed into the center of the world.
Gaza, whose bravery and courage in the face of total onslaught from the United States and Israel has revealed core injustices at the root of our current reality and has moved millions into action.
Gaza.
Gaza, which demands of us that we here in North America commit every single fiber of our being to building a movement capable of ending the crimes of Zionism and of imperialism.
So this guy's name is Tahir Dalla.
laura loomer
Let's go back to my page.
Tahir Dalla.
He is a labor organizer with the Communications Workers of America and the Palestinian Youth Movement.
He spent his time pushing for arms embargoes and protests against the United States support for Israel.
So, you know, these people are full-time paid agitators and protesters for the Palestinian cause.
Unbelievable.
unidentified
Alrighty.
laura loomer
And these people really are communists.
Let's go ahead and play clip number two.
unidentified
Genocide is not and can never be normalized.
The United States and Israel's continued commitment to it, despite the wills and intuitions of the masses of the world, is not a sign of strength.
It is the sign of the weakness of a monster that knows that it has run out of options.
Zionism, imperialism, and those who support and sustain it will forever be known as on the side of murder and land theft.
They will forever be known as opposed to liberation, justice, dignity, and self-determination.
This conference, brothers and sisters, is not only important because it brings together movements, organizations, and leaders who have fought tirelessly to end the genocide and for the liberation of Palestine.
This conference is also important because it defies, it defies all the forces that conspire to stop and silence our movement.
From far-right figures, politicians, media outlets, and the Zionist lobby, they have tried to intimidate us.
They have tried to intimidate us with smears, with false accusations, and with every single available threat at their disposal to stop this conference from happening.
We will not stop.
We will not stop.
All of these forces are the same forces that conspire to erase the Palestinian people and to erase Palestine.
The genocide through the genocide in Gaza and through the annexation of the West Bank.
The destruction of the camps and the forced removal of people from their villages, pushing them into the cities is a pretext for the theft of more lands, for the theft of more land, and for further colonization of Palestine.
These are the same people who vote to send bombs unrestrictedly to Israel at the expense of the American worker.
These are the same people who will gun universities and public institutions, make a mockery and destroy every single democratic right if that's what they assess needed to silence those who stand against genocide and with Gaza.
These are the same people whose criminal newsrooms spread propaganda and run cover for the starvation of children.
These are the same forces that serve to assassinate journalists with chilling precision, like our martyr, Anessa Sharif, whose name bears this very room that we are now gathered in today.
laura loomer
They're not journalists, homeboy, okay?
They're Hamas terrorists.
People are totally crazy.
So you had elected officials show up to this conference in addition to Rashida Tlaib.
We have a clip of Rashida Tlaib, Congresswoman Rashida Talib, a Democrat, Muslim, Palestinian member of Congress who went on stage and decided to just call everybody who opposed Hamas, a motherfucker.
This is a sitting United States Congresswoman at a conference where speakers openly called for the assassination of U.S. officials that don't support the Palestinian cause.
So we're going to play this clip for you first, and then I'm going to play the clip for you of the doctor, the speaker, the Muslim speaker at the conference this weekend.
His name is Nidal Jabor, who called to neutralize and take out leaders in the United States, Europe, and Israel.
Literally a call for political assassination.
So we're going to play this clip of Rashida Tlaib and then we're going to cut to the clip of again all these people.
Again, they just have such foreign names.
Nidal Jabbor.
Okay, let's go ahead and play this clip first.
unidentified
Every genocide enabler, look at this rooms, motherfuckers.
We ain't going anywhere!
We are just growing and growing and growing.
We are bringing siblings from other movements.
Gaza needs to be saved now.
It saved all of us, liberated all of us.
It is time for us to pay back and stop the criminals, the perpetrators, the child murderers.
And we all know who they are.
We all know who they are, whether they are in Israel, in Tel Aviv, in Washington, in Germany, in Europe.
We all know them.
We all know them.
They need to be locked up.
They need to be taken out.
They need to be neutralized to save children, to save children, to save the humanity.
We are not saying this out of hate.
We are saying this out of love.
Out of love for the children.
Love for life.
Love for humanity where every life is equal.
We only hate the war criminals, the jail murderers.
We need to act now.
Speaking up alone is not enough.
It's two years old.
We have been speaking up for two years.
Now it's time to escalate and to act and to get the murderers out.
Save the children.
Thank you.
The war mongerers and the megaretch who are owning these systems.
They want the whole world to be owned by these few supremacists, whether they are Jewish supremacists or Christian supremacists, Christian evangelicals or mega rich.
It is time or never.
We need to mobilize.
If we wait five years, 10 years, their system will be so strong that we the people cannot fight it.
So we need to take the thrones of power from them.
And we the people need to create a better world and better humanity for everyone.
laura loomer
I mean, totally insane behavior.
I posted that clip.
And Harmie Dylan of the DOJ, I think we have her tweet actually.
Let's go ahead and show it, responded.
Leo Terrell also over at the DOJ responded, calling it highly concerning, saying that he was going to look into it.
We're going to have to pull that link up because I know that's like very far down on my timeline.
But a lot of administration officials have responded to this video.
I've spoken with people at the White House about it.
I've spoken with people in our intel agencies about it.
And it's prompted a lot of concern.
It has prompted a lot of concern.
There you can see Harmy Dylan saying extremely concerning.
So hopefully the DOJ and hopefully the FBI, hopefully the Department of Defense is taking a look at this conference because not only are they calling for arms embargoes and not only are these speakers who some of them, I mean, that guy right there, Nadal Jabbar, Nadal Jabbor, he is an actual American medical doctor.
He's a Palestinian American doctor and the co-founder of Doctors Against Genocide.
And so he is treating patients in hospitals in Michigan.
And so what's going to happen if he gets an Israeli patient or a Jewish patient?
Is he going to kill them?
Is he going to kill them?
If you are calling for violence and political assassinations on U.S. soil, you should not only be detained and arrested and charged by the FBI, you should have your medical license revoked.
That is a violation of your oath.
As a doctor, you're supposed to take a code of an oath, a medical oath and a code of honor to not do any unnecessary harm to anybody's health or their physical being.
So I think that he should be reported to the American Medical Bar and the American Medical Association, and he should have his medical license revoked.
And he should also be charged and raided by the FBI.
I mean, that's what I would do.
I was FBI director.
I don't know.
It's taking so long.
Hopefully we'll see some action soon.
Why should Pete Hegseth and the DOD be paying attention to this?
Well, we have another clip of another one of these organizers from the Palestinian youth movement.
The first speaker who I showed you was also a member of the Palestinian youth movement.
This woman, this video is now making the rounds after I sent it to lawmakers, sent it to the White House.
Her name is Aisha Nizar, and she is an organizer for the Palestinian Youth Movement, which believe it or not, shockingly, is a 501c3 organization.
We are literally giving tax write-offs to these domestic terrorists so they can carry out their acts of domestic terrorism on U.S. soil.
Take a listen to what she says here at this conference, encouraging these Palestinian Muslim activists, activists, I just want to call them all terrorists, encouraging them to sabotage the supply chain for the F-35 fighter jets.
Go ahead and play the clip.
unidentified
Is that 70% of the cost of the F-35 program actually comes from the supply chain?
70% of this $2 trillion that goes into the supply chain is literally because they need to transport the different components of the F-35 to different locations to assemble them.
And what's really important for us to know is that the F-35 supply chain functions off of this just-in-time logistics process.
It's called this, it's an inventory management system.
And it's called just-in-time, which means that it delivers the goods right before they're needed.
And it's also noted that for an F-35, for every one hour of flight, it actually needs three hours of maintenance.
So what I'm saying to y'all is that if one specific node of the F-35 supply chain is intervened in, it has a huge impact on our people back home.
And so we've really developed a methodology, and then I hope that we can get into this and we can talk about it a bit more through this, through this panel.
But what's important for us to know here is that the more that we know, the more that we can do.
Knowledge is really power here.
And we need to be surgical.
We need to be strategic and we need to be bold in our actions because there are many different points of these supply chains of death that we can intervene in and we must intervene.
laura loomer
So in other words, let's sabotage America's ability to protect itself and let's sabotage the United States military by sabotaging and interfering in the supply chain for the F-35.
I mean, this is an act of war.
This is an act of domestic terrorism.
And this woman, Aisha Nizar, she calls herself, who is a member of Palestinian youth movement, should be charged and she should be raided by the FBI.
I mean, she should be investigated.
And following my expose and the amplification of this video, which has now been seen millions of times on my ex account, GOP Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna, who herself is an Air Force veteran, tweeted out, quote tweeting my tweet earlier, not smart to make a public call to mess with our F-35 supply chain.
Issues of national security are taken very seriously.
I have referred this individual to the FBI.
Well, I hope that Aisha Nizar is referred to the FBI.
And I also hope that Nidal Jabor is also referred to the FBI for calling for assassinations of American, Israeli, and European political elected officials who don't want to get on board with this Palestinian bullshit.
Okay.
These Muslim savages who are not welcomed in any of the 56 majority Muslim countries because the Palestinian people are fucking savage animals.
These people are fucking savages and they have no place in Western civilization.
And every single one of these fucking animals needs to be deported from our country.
Every single one of them.
Every single one of them.
And that should be the policy of the United States government.
Deport every single savage Palestinian motherfucker.
Yeah, I can use that word too, Rashida.
You and your people are the real motherfuckers in our country.
Disrupting activities, disrupting our patriotic way of life here in America, chanting death to America, death to Israel, death to Western civilization.
You and your uncivilized, savage animal people are the real savages.
And you need to go back to where you came from.
And if you want to wave the Palestinian flag, Rashida, even though you are supposedly an American citizen, then you should revoke your U.S. citizenship and go to Gaza.
I will buy you a one-way plane ticket.
Oh, wait, that's right.
I can't buy you a plane ticket because there's no such thing as Palestine.
And that's right.
Your airport doesn't exist because it was bombed by the IDF, bitch.
I mean, honestly, this woman needs to be censured by Mike Johnson.
She needs to be removed from office along with Rashid, along with Ilhan Omar.
Rashida Talib and Ilhan Omar and every single other Muslim serving in the United States government should be removed from office.
These people pose a massive national security threat to our country.
And it's time for Speaker Johnson to take action.
It is time for the Trump administration to take action against these savages who have infiltrated our government.
Now, I'm sure that cloak is going to be clipped by Media Matters and they're going to play that on CNN and MSNBC, but I don't give a shit and I'm not going to back down.
And it is time for our lawmakers to grow pair of balls and to stop toe-ing the line with Islam and to push back against the Islamification of our country before we turn into a shithole like the UK.
Or else Mohammed is going to become the number one baby name here in the United States of America too.
unidentified
I have had enough.
I have had enough.
laura loomer
So, yeah, Rashida, you want to call us motherfuckers?
You're the motherfucker.
Get out of my country.
I mean, that's how we need to start talking to these people.
They are savages, okay?
There's a reason why nobody wants these people in their country.
unidentified
They are called the cockroaches of the Middle East.
They call the Palestinian people the cockroaches of the Middle East.
laura loomer
No other country wants them.
Egypt doesn't want them.
Jordan doesn't want them.
Saudi Arabia doesn't want them.
The UAE doesn't want these people.
So why would we want these people?
We don't need these people.
I mean, nothing pisses me off more than, you know, we're about to see the 24-year anniversary of the 9-11 Islamic terrorist attacks on U.S. soil.
And yet we have these Muslim motherfuckers populating and breeding like rabbits all throughout our country, infecting and infesting our cities with their Islamic bullshit, calling for death to America and death to Israel.
And our Republican politicians don't want to push back because, oh, I don't want to be called an Islamophobe.
Well, guess what?
I don't really care if you want to call me an Islamophobe because you know what?
There's no such thing as Islamophobia.
A phobia is an irrational fear.
And it is not irrational to fear Muslims who are talking about how they want to kill you.
They want to kill you.
Wake up.
unidentified
These people are in the streets of America.
laura loomer
They are speaking at their conferences, talking about how they want to kill you.
tim pool
I don't know what it's gonna take.
laura loomer
Is it going to take having a Muslim communist mayor of New York City and another goddamn 9-11?
Is that what it's going to take?
Is that what it's going to take for people to wake up to the threat of Islam in our country?
What is it going to take?
I want to know.
tim pool
I want to know what it's going to take.
laura loomer
We need to demand that the Trump administration take action on these people.
We need to demand that the State Department take action on these people.
Every single American should be screaming into the microphone like I am.
Do we want to be like the UK where they have Muslim rape games raping kids, raping young girls, young girls in the streets having to protect themselves with axes because we have these Muslim savages running around raping and killing people?
In the name of Allah and their fake pedophile prophet Muhammad?
unidentified
Terrible.
Oh.
Thank you.
laura loomer
Somebody said, lower your mic.
No, this is the sound.
You know, Minneapolis, you know that in Minnesota, they now have a call to prayer.
They don't even have sound ordinances anymore.
They literally do not have sound ordinances anymore.
So if you have to listen to me scream into my microphone to wake you up to the threat of Islam in America, you're going to listen to me scream in the microphone.
Because what do you want to listen to?
Do you want to listen to me screaming and warning you that Western civilization is dying?
Or do you want to listen to that call to prayer five fucking times a day?
I don't want to hear that.
I don't want to listen to that.
And that is what it's going to be broadcast all across America if we don't start taking a stand against these people now.
That is what we are going to have to listen to every freaking day.
Every day you wake up.
You're going to be woken up at three o'clock in the morning to the sound of a Lahu Akbar.
I don't want to live in that kind of country.
I don't.
tim pool
And someone said, oh, you can't call them cockroaches.
laura loomer
Well, you know, Linda Sarsour, she was at this conference.
She has called for jihad against President Trump.
Her last name, Sarsour, literally translates to cockroach.
Did you know that?
You can look it up.
So I'm not taking back what I said about calling them cockroaches.
The Muslims in the Middle East call these people the cockroaches of the Middle East.
Go look it up.
Go look it up if you don't believe me.
They literally call the Palestinian people the cockroaches of the Middle East.
Go look it up if you don't believe me.
Let's go ahead and play clip number 11.
Linda Sarsour telling activists to carry on the Palestinian struggle into the streets and into the halls of Congress, into the boardrooms and onto college campuses.
unidentified
And I say to all of you who are in this room that when you are in these streets, when you are in those halls of Congress, when you are in the boardrooms and on those college campuses, remember that for many of us, this is personal.
And that I want you to think about my beloved granddaughter that is coming to this world this October 2025.
And I want you to remember her and fight for her and pray that she and all the children of Palestine will live fully free one day.
And know that our fight is not only to free generations of Palestinians, but I know when the people of Palestine are free, all of us are going to be free.
Keep going.
Walk out of this people's conference for Palestine with your back straight, with your head held high, because we are a movement to be proud of.
We are a movement that stands with all marginalized people.
We are a movement that believes that we all have the right to live in dignity and freedom.
And I will not say that it may not happen in my lifetime, because it will happen in my lifetime and in your lifetime.
Free, free Palestine!
laura loomer
You have to rise up.
Look, if these Palestinians are going to rise up, then you have to rise up too.
You have to rise up and save your country from the threat of Islam and Islamification.
Look at what's happening in the UK.
Tommy Robinson, who's a friend of mine, who's literally been jailed in the UK for speaking out about Islam.
Okay?
They're having a rally on September 23rd or September 13th, excuse me, September 13th in the UK to protest the takeover of the UK by Muslims.
I mean, you have Elon Musk, the owner of X, openly tweeting every single day about the demographic shift in the UK and how Islam has taken over Europe.
Here we go.
Tommy Robinson urges protesters at September rally to not drink too much and behave.
Tommy Robinson is having a huge protest.
You can scroll down.
He has organized the UK's biggest free speech protest in London.
The anti-Islam campaigner has branded it a day that we unite the kingdom.
Yeah, well, uniting the world is more like it.
The entire world needs to be united against the threat of Islam.
We have already seen political assassinations by Palestinians and Palestinian activists, aka terrorists, here in America.
Okay?
Do I need to remind you all on May 21st of those two young Jews that were gunned down outside of the Jewish Museum in Washington, D.C. by a communist who was wearing a kefiya and chanting free Palestine, free Gaza?
These people are terrorists and the FBI needs to come in and they need to shut these people down.
And I don't really care.
I don't really care if saying the F word, calling people a motherfucker, calling somebody a cockroach offends people.
Oh, you're so sad.
Oh, you're so sad.
Let's call Laura Loomer a racist.
Let's call Laura Loomer anti-Muslim.
Let's call Laura Loomer an Islamophobe.
Yeah, well, what are you going to call the Muslim who's raping and killing a young 12-year-old girl?
What are you going to call a Muslim who calls for jihad against President Trump?
You know, what are you going to call this Muslim doctor who's practicing medicine at a fucking hospital in Michigan saying things like we need to take out politicians that don't want to support Palestinians?
I don't really care anymore.
I've been canceled so many times.
I've lost so much money.
I've lost millions of dollars.
I'm not even kidding, okay?
Millions of dollars over the years for being canceled for my anti-Muslim, anti-Islam speech.
I am overgiven a shit.
This ship has sailed, okay?
I don't care what people call me anymore.
You know how much money I've lost for speaking out about the truth over these last 10 years, speaking out, trying to warn people about the Islamic takeover of America, trying to warn people about the threat of Islam and the Muslim Brotherhood here in the United States of America.
I was the first journalist in this country to ever expose Ilha Nomar and Rashida to leave before they ever got elected to Congress.
Okay?
We have the video online.
We could play that video for you.
I was the first person to do that.
You think I give a shit about whether or not CNN or MSNBC calls me anti-Muslim?
I don't care.
I am past the point of caring.
And if you are one of these people who is easily offended, this is not the show for you.
This is not the show for you.
If you want to see people dance around the truth and you want to see people, you know, talk about Islam with kid gloves.
It's just not the show for you.
Further highlighting how fucked up things have gotten in our country, Mahmoud Khalil, Palestinian, Palestinian here on a visa who was supposed to be deported and now the Democrats are treating him like he's some kind of war hero, spoke at the People's Conference for Palestine where they were calling for political assassinations against politicians, calling for the sabotage of the F-35.
Why is this guy not deported?
Why is he still in our country?
Why are Democrat lawmakers having Mahmoud Khalil paraded around the United States Congress acting like he's some type of hero?
Let's go ahead and play the clip.
I believe it's clip number 20.
Mahmoud Khalil at the People's Conference for Palestine.
I mean, this guy needs to be rounded up.
I don't give a shit about his baby.
I don't give a shit that his little hijabi pregnant wife had to give birth alone.
Oh, my wife, I wasn't there to see her birth.
Oh, I'm so sad.
Oh, I'm so sad.
I wasn't there to see the birth of my child.
I don't give a shit.
Let's put you and your kid and your baby mama on a plane on one of those F-35s that you want to sabotage, and let's just airdrop you into Gaza.
How about that?
Can we just airdrop Mahmoud Khalil and his baby and his wife into Gaza?
I'll pay for it.
Play the clip.
unidentified
Because Zionism only depends by portraying that Israel is a normal state.
It's an ordinary state.
But our work is to strip that facade until Israel stands exposed as a pariah state until the Zionist genocidal project and the ideology of supremacy that it's built on collapse completely.
*crowd cheers* Because Gaza has shown the world what resilience looks
like, what truth looks like, what it means to refuse erasure, even in the face of genocide, Gaza is the compass.
Palestine is the compass.
And as we march forward, not as individuals, but as a people, as a movement, as a revolution, until return, until liberation, until victory.
free Palestine.
Thank you.
Why is he still in our country?
laura loomer
I agree.
Unbelievable.
My God, it's so crazy.
They're defending the Houthis in addition to defending Hamas.
Let's go ahead and play the clip of Taher Dalla portraying the Houthis as the victim.
Just like literal support for Islamic terrorists on U.S. soil.
Let's go ahead.
I think it's clip 42.
Let's go ahead and play clip number 42.
unidentified
But we cannot lose sight of the fact that Israel's brutality extends to Lebanon, extends to Yemen, extends to Syria, extends to Iraq, and extends to Iran.
Throughout the duration of the genocide, Israel has murdered tens of thousands of the people of these countries.
It has targeted their civilian infrastructure, assassinated their political representatives, murdered their medical workers, their scientists, attacked and attempted to destroy every single pillar of the societies of all of these nations.
Just yesterday in Yemen, Israel assassinated nearly the whole Yemeni political level.
Shame!
Shame!
Israel is a rogue terrorist state!
It is a danger, not just to the Arab region, but to the entire world.
Nowhere is this clearer.
Brothers and sisters, nowhere is this clearer than at the UN.
Alongside the United States, Israel has undermined every single aspect of this forum that was meant to be a democratic expression of the wills of the nations and the peoples of the world.
laura loomer
All these people, you know what?
It's frustrating sometimes not being in the government.
Because if I was in the government, not only would I do, you know, they raided the homes of all the J6ers.
They knocked down people's doors.
unidentified
FBI, open up!
Boom, boom, boom.
laura loomer
Like, why don't we have these FBI raids at the homes of all these Muslims who are participating in these terrorism conferences?
FBI, open up.
Get on the ground.
If you resist, we're going to put a bullet in your head right now on the ground.
Like, that's literally what needs to happen.
These people are terrorists.
The FBI needs to raid their mosques.
They need to raid their Islamic centers and they need to raid their homes.
And they need to treat them like the terrorists that they are.
They need to start arresting people like these organizers who are on video.
And it's not my words.
It's not my words.
These are their words calling for things like sabotaging our supply chains, okay?
Sabotaging our military while they build their own little military of Muslim men in America.
unidentified
Calling for assassinations.
laura loomer
So you mean to tell me a little granny, a little soccer mom that wore, you know, a Trump shirt and walked inside the United States Capitol.
Oh, what to do?
I'm just walking around taking photos in the Capitol.
Oh, look at all these paintings.
So beautiful.
The election was stolen.
I'm taking photos.
You mean to tell me they're going to raid the home of a grandma or some kind of soccer mom for wearing a Trump hat and storming the Capitol on January 6th, but we're not going to have the FBI raid the homes of these Muslim terrorists?
We are under a Trump administration.
Like, what the fuck is Pam Blondie doing at the DOJ?
What are they doing over at the FBI?
Something is very wrong in our country that we are eight months into the Trump administration and groups like this are still able to have a tax-deductible status.
unidentified
I don't know.
laura loomer
People need to start asking a lot more questions about what some of these cabinet members are doing.
Scott Besson, acting IRS director, immediately tomorrow needs to strip every single one of these Palestinian groups of their 501c3 status.
Every single one of them.
Why do these groups have a tax-deductible status for calling for assassinations of American politicians?
Why?
Why are Lois Lerner's henchmen still working over at the IRS?
Why?
I have a lot of questions.
I have a lot of questions.
I have a lot of questions about why things like this are not being dealt with.
Let's go to the chat.
I want to take a couple comments and questions.
If you agree, press one in the chat.
I mean, people are fired up.
How is this fucking bullshit allowed?
Is one comment I see?
Absolutely.
Islam is not welcome in the free world.
That story needs more coverage.
Yeah, again, like I said, how come this isn't all over every single news network?
How come President Trump hasn't issued a statement about this?
I'm sure he will.
I don't know if he's seen it or not.
I hope he sees it.
How come J.D. Vance hasn't issued a statement?
Again, I'm not attacking them.
I'm just saying this is the kind of stuff that the president and the vice president need to be briefed on every day when they get their intel briefings.
Mr. President, there has been a gathering of Islamic terrorists in Michigan where they got together and called for the sabotage of the F-35 fighter jet program.
Mr. President, how do you want us to respond to this?
Mr. President, Palestinian terrorists gathered this weekend over Labor Day weekend in Michigan where they called for your assassination.
I mean, is the president even getting briefed on this information?
unidentified
I don't know.
It is crazy.
Oh, God.
Let's see...
laura loomer
Oh my God, there's so many more clips.
There's so many crazy clips.
unidentified
Let's see what else they have.
laura loomer
I mean, we would be here all night if I played all these clips.
Hours of clips.
I mean, I literally have like 15 pages here of clips from this weekend.
Again.
Where's Fox News talking about this?
Where's CNN?
Where's MSNBC?
Where's our elected officials?
Recess is over, guys.
Chop, chop.
Time to get back to work.
unidentified
My God.
laura loomer
Makes me go crazy.
All right, here's another one.
Clip number 12.
Sachin Padada.
Again, these people have such foreign names.
It drives me crazy.
Sachin Pedada.
Padada.
Pedada Pedada.
I don't even know.
I don't even know.
I don't even know how to pronounce these people's names.
I just know I don't want these people.
I don't want these Muslim foreigners in my country.
Sachin Pedada.
Destroy the idea of America in Americans' heads.
They are literally admitting that they want to come to our country to destroy America.
Let's go ahead and play clip number 12.
unidentified
I think I'm reminded of this Basil Alaraj quote where he basically says that the average American will never understand the plight of the Palestinian person because the state of Israel is a carbon copy of the United States.
And therefore, the thing to do is to destroy the idea of America in Americans' heads so that they can see the humanity of everybody outside of the warping of American exceptionalism and imperialism and all these evil things.
We have to dismantle this idea of American exceptionalism, of supremacy, of being beyond reproach.
I think it's very important that we normalize criticism as a healthy process and learn from our experiments in the world to push the boundaries of what is possible to continue to fight for more and more and to see how the empire responds to us and to continue to push farther and harder.
laura loomer
Again.
My God, I just cannot believe that I'm like one of the only people talking about this.
I'm one of the few people, along with Sue, of course, who caught a lot of these clips.
unidentified
Where are lawmakers?
laura loomer
How is this allowed to happen?
At a convention center in Michigan.
It's crazy.
We're not living under Joe Biden anymore.
This is the Trump administration.
Insane.
Same speaker, clip number 13, talking about how we live in a country.
Then go.
Go to Gaza.
Okay.
Go live amongst your fellow savages in Gaza.
Okay?
If you think America is an evil country, go.
unidentified
Leave.
laura loomer
Bye-bye.
Play clip number 13.
unidentified
I think it's important to name that we live in a world that is controlled by this system of empire and injustice.
I think to obfuscate that point or beat around the bush there does not serve us.
We live in an evil country, and that's just, that's just what's happening.
And that doesn't mean we're all evil, but it does mean that we have a unique responsibility.
We have a unique position here in the heart of the empire to act in solidarity with all of our siblings in Gaze, in the West Bank, all around the world.
And I guess to start getting to the question, I think that it's important to name, right, that we do live in the system of imperialism that has conquered every corner of the world functionally.
There are several exceptions that are worth upholding and highlighting and celebrating.
But by and large, imperialism is a system that is global.
And it is not without its contradictions.
It is not without its point of conflict.
It's not without the violence that it relies on and is sustained by.
And these contradictions, like Aisha said, are opportunities at every level, whether it's local, whether it's national, whether it's international.
There are contradictions that can and should be exploited.
So one, I think, clear contradiction is that of colonialism or imperialism.
We continue to live in a world that is defined by immense inequality between the global north, the U.S., Canada, Europe, and the Global South, which is Asia, Africa, Latin America, broadly speaking.
Decolonization, the UN will say decolonization ended in the 60s.
It's still ongoing.
It's still happening.
And I think it's important to name that this process is not easy and it's not with its contradictions as well.
But the task of decolonization is just as urgent today as it was 50 years ago.
And I think it's also important to name that.
laura loomer
They also invited actual Palestinian terrorists, like actual terrorists, to come speak at their conference.
unidentified
Just, I don't know.
laura loomer
I just cannot believe that this is happening on U.S. soil.
Where's our lawmakers?
I mean, so many people in the chat are like, oh, this is the first time I'm hearing about this.
Yeah.
Why?
Why are our lawmakers not talking about this?
Clip number 53, terrorist Omar Asaf platformed at the People's Conference for Palestine.
unidentified
We have two virtual panelists today from Palestine.
Maryam Barghouti, who is a journalist based in Ramallah.
She's covered the region for more than 10 years and is a policy analyst, researcher and reporter.
We also have Omar Al-Assaf, who is a freed political prisoner.
And he's also the coordinator of the Popular Conference Executive Committee in Palestine.
sign.
Thank you.
Thank you.
laura loomer
Actual terrorist, like an actual terrorist who was supposed to come to the United States and have a visa, but Marco Rubio blocked his visa after yours truly raised awareness about the fact that this conference was trying to get visas for their terrorist speakers.
That's the power of my journalism.
I single-handedly got all of the visas for Gazans and Palestinians shut down.
Let's go ahead and get that news article up on the screen too so people can see that.
Over the weekend, while you were busy, one of the announcements, a quiet announcement, was that the Trump administration has paused all visas for Palestinian passport holders.
That was a direct call to action by me after, well, several weeks ago, when I exposed the fact that Gazans were getting visas under the guise of humanitarian medical missions to come to the United States.
So U.S. tells diplomats to refuse most visas for Palestinian passport holders.
That is an amazing victory.
And I got a lot of calls this weekend from people who were thanking me because they said this wouldn't have happened if it weren't for my reporting.
And they're right, it wouldn't have happened.
And I don't mind taking a victory lap because I have saved lives.
God only knows how many lives I have saved by reporting on the fact that Gazans were getting visas by, you know, Muslim infiltrators at the State Department issuing visas to Palestinians and people in Gaza, Gazans.
And these people were getting visas to come to our country where they probably would have just killed tons of Americans.
And now the Trump administration has halted all visas for Palestinians.
So hopefully we can add all Palestinians and Gazans to the travel ban as well.
So it's not just temporary, but completely permanent.
That's what I would really love to see President Trump do next is just adding Palestinians.
I mean, I would say add Palestine to the travel ban, but there's no such thing as Palestine.
So I guess it's a game of semantics, but every single person who calls themselves a Palestinian or in Gazan should be permanently banned from ever coming to our country.
I don't really care if you need medical care.
There's 56 Muslim countries.
Go to one of those Muslim countries.
If the Muslims love the Palestinians so much, put them in your own hospitals.
Oh, that's right.
None of the other Muslim countries want them.
Why?
Because they call them the conquerors of the Middle East.
That's why.
Oh, yeah.
That's why Egypt has walls, right?
That's why Lebanon has walls.
They have walls to keep these people out.
They don't want them in.
They don't want them in.
Even the king of Jordan was like, all right, fine.
We'll finally take 2,000 Gazan kids, but you have to go back immediately.
As soon as you're out of the hospital, you got to go back.
It's like they reluctantly want to, you know, give these people medical care.
It's like, okay, nobody wants them.
unidentified
Why?
laura loomer
Because even the kids are trained to be terrorists.
And I said that a couple weeks ago when I encouraged the State Department to revoke all visas for the Gazan kids coming in because it was an act of chain migration and they were allowing all their family members and their fathers and their brothers.
And, you know, it was like, one kid is coming in to get a prosthetic.
And yet there's like 30 Palestinians getting off the plane.
Like, hello?
Is anybody seeing this with their own eyes?
Waving the Palestinian flag and the keffiyeh at the airports.
I mean, Jesus, no American flag in sight.
Just a Palestinian flag and a Kafiya.
Nobody voted for this.
We voted for no more Muslims coming into our country.
That's what we voted for.
We voted for an Islamic travel ban.
No more Palestinians.
Period.
End of discussion.
The worst sound you'll ever hear in your life.
I Makes me want to blow my brains up.
Hate it.
Anyway, I've been vindicated this weekend at the People's Conference for Palestine.
They were training kids to be terrorists.
They were literally training kids to pick up the mantle to be Palestinian terrorists.
And if you don't believe me, let's go ahead and play these clips.
I posted clips on my ex account.
They had a six-part training series for kids under the age of five years old, teaching them Palestinian chants of the resistance.
They say every generation until liberation.
That's their phrase.
So they want to indoctrinate the kids.
And I was telling everybody, oh, you cannot allow for even the kids to come in.
Even the kids.
Oh, you have no heart, Lord.
Oh, you know, these kids were blown up.
Oh, they need prosthetics.
unidentified
And send them somewhere else.
laura loomer
Are we the only country in the world that has hospitals?
I was 32 years old when I found out the United States of America is the only country in the world with hospitals and doctors.
Give me a break.
unidentified
Let's go out and play these clips.
You know, we've been doing all sorts of revolutionary programming from depth lessons to the Taris lessons to revolutionary, singing and songs.
And it's been a really uplifting and incredible experience.
You know, I think that we have so much to learn from the children.
And likewise, we have a lot to share from them, right?
I've been so inspired to be kind of uplifted by their energy, by their confidence, by their willingness to try things out and learn.
The children are the future of our movement.
And we are here to guide them, to support them, and to learn alongside them for generation after generation until total liberation.
laura loomer
Why do young kids younger than five years old need to learn about liberation and the Palestinian struggle?
She literally said it's revolutionary programming.
Remember when Hillary Clinton said that conservatives need to be reprogrammed in education camps?
That's literally what this lady is saying.
Reprogramming, terrorist indoctrination.
Listen to what she just said again.
Revolutionary programming.
They are literally trying to indoctrinate kids to be Palestinian terrorists.
Okay.
Those are her words, not mine.
Listen, revolutionary programming.
Play the clip.
unidentified
I'm Louood with the Palestinian Feminist Collective, and I'm here at the People's Conference of Palestine supporting with the children's programming with the kids.
You know, we've been doing all sorts of revolutionary programming from deputy lessons to the Tariv's lessons to revolutionary, singing and songs.
And it's been a really uplifting and incredible experience.
You know, I think that we have so much to learn from the children.
And likewise, we have a lot to share from them, right?
I've been so inspired to be kind of uplifted by their energy, by their confidence, by their willingness to try things out and learn.
The children are the future of our movement.
And we are here to guide them, to support them, and to learn alongside them for generation after generation until total liberation.
laura loomer
So when the state department in Marco Rubio issued the statement a couple weeks ago revoking the visas for children coming in from Gaza, they said, Laura Loomer is a monster.
She's so evil.
Why is Trump listening to her?
These poor kids.
unidentified
World.
The kids.
laura loomer
I said they're terrorists, and people said, how can you call children terrorists?
This is how I can call children terrorists because I've got the receipts.
I just played the receipts for you.
unidentified
Anybody want to dispute that?
laura loomer
Making kids with the Palestinian flag.
Play that video again of the kids waving the Palestinian flag on stage.
And pause when you see the backdrop behind them.
Literally, a sign of a Hamas of a Hamas terrorist in the background of the stage with a sign that says, Glory to our martyrs.
Glory to Hamas.
You think these kids are so innocent because they're kids?
Yeah, you think they're you think little kids are not capable of evil?
unidentified
These kids pause it.
laura loomer
Go back though.
unidentified
I want to pause it on that on that graphic.
laura loomer
Go back.
We gotta get the right shot.
unidentified
Keep going.
*music*
laura loomer
Right there.
So, glory to our martyrs with a map of what they think is Palestine.
Basically, like they, they, they, they want their one-state solution, and that they don't want any Israel to exist.
So, they have a map of Israel, but they call it Palestine because they want to kill every single Jew.
And then they have kids on stage waving the kefiya with signs that say glory to our martyrs and photographs of fake journalists who are actually Hamas operatives.
So, I don't want to hear anybody tell me ever again, oh, you're being so mean, Laura.
unidentified
You're so terrible, you're so evil, you're so wicked.
laura loomer
You want to kill kids?
No, they want to kill kids, okay?
They are the ones that are indoctrinating little kids to support terrorism.
Glory to our martyrs.
These people are sick, okay?
They're animals, they're savages, and they're training their little kids to be savage animals, too.
You can't allow these people to come in.
I don't really care.
Cut this all you want.
I, I, I hope Media Matters and CNN and MSNBC are watching this and that they cut me and they talk about, oh my God, oh my God, this is who they're listening to.
Look at how horrible she is.
Oh, my God, look at how radical she sounds.
Yeah, fuck you.
Okay, look at how radical these people sound.
Death to America.
Glory to our martyrs.
Martyrs.
You.
I dare you to clip this clip and put it all over your fake news media and blast me for speaking truth about Islam.
Okay.
These are the people who are radical who you should be reporting on.
I dare you to try to cancel me again by posting this clip.
Go ahead.
I don't care.
That ship sailed a long time ago.
All right.
I don't care.
Let's go to the chat.
Somebody said, Laura, you are a disgusting freak.
Oh, cry more.
You know who's a disgusting freak?
These kids.
You know who's a disgusting freak?
Their parents.
You know who's a disgusting freak?
Everybody who supports the Palestinian movement?
Cry more.
Bye-bye.
Cry more.
tim pool
Cry more.
unidentified
Yeah.
Thank you.
laura loomer
Hey, the truth is ugly.
The truth hurts.
And it's really sad.
You know, I hope that these kids are taken away by CPS.
I hope that Child Protective Services takes these kids away from their parents so that they're able to live a normal life and not be indoctrinated with terrorist propaganda because these children deserve to grow up in America and to learn that the greatest country in the world is the greatest country in the world and that we are not the head of the snake, that we are not the worst and you know, the most evil country in the world, like all these people are saying.
I hope these kids are able to be rescued.
I hope that we can free Palestine from Islam and Hamas.
That's what I, that's what I hope.
You want to free Palestine?
I agree.
Let's free Palestine from Hamas.
Let's free Palestine from Islam.
Let's free these people from Islam.
So, you know, people want to get upset, they can get upset.
This is terrorism.
This is terrorist propaganda.
This is anti-American activity.
This is the type of stuff that Senator Joseph McCarthy, who I think is an American hero, used to crack down on.
We need to bring it back.
We need to bring it back.
We need to bring McCarthyism back.
We need to make McCarthyism great again.
Because if we had McCarthyism in our country, this type of activity would not be tolerated by our lawmakers on U.S. soil.
It would not.
It would not.
Anyway, like I said, so many of these clips So many of these clips.
We'd be here all night if I played all of them.
Put your comments and your questions in the chat.
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All right.
Couple more questions in the chat.
Again, you can see these videos on my account.
Recess is over, folks.
Contact your lawmakers.
They got back today.
They're back.
Call your lawmakers and tell them everybody should get on the phone and call their lawmakers in Washington, D.C. tomorrow and tell them about this terrorist conference.
Ask them what they're doing about it.
Call them.
Representative so-and-so, Senator so-and-so, Congressman so-and-so.
I am very concerned that Muslims are calling for political assassinations at Palestinian conferences in America.
I am very concerned that Palestinian organizations have a 501c3 status.
Have you seen the videos?
What are you doing about it?
Please take action.
tim pool
Call them.
unidentified
you We have a super chat.
laura loomer
$20.
What's the deal with nominee Jeffrey Anderson?
It's a lot to get into.
You can read about it on my website tonight, loomered.com.
Loomered.com.
The vetting crisis continues.
If you want to read my latest expose, I'm one of the Trump nominees, Jeffrey Anderson, a lifelong Democrat, ran for Congress as a Democrat, was a Democrat activist, donated to Democrats.
And now, unfortunately, he's been nominated to a position under the Trump administration.
You can go to loomered.com, loomered.com, or you can read that article on the homepage.
Let's pull that up right now so people can see.
Vetting crisis continues.
Trump's International Civil Aviation Org nominee, Jeffrey Anderson, donated to Trump haters, ran for Congress as a Democrat.
Again, lumered.com.
Check it out.
Thank you to everybody who reposted the show tonight.
Call Mike Johnson.
Ask him why he hasn't censured Rashida Tawib.
Speaker Johnson, why have you not censored Rashida Taib after she spoke at a conference where they called for the political assassination of American lawmakers?
Speaker Johnson, what are you doing to stop the Islamification of America?
Speaker Johnson, what are you doing to encourage FBI raids and FBI investigations into the Palestinian activists who called for the sabotage of the American F-35 fighter jet program?
tim pool
you Call.
laura loomer
They had a 40-day vacation.
Tell these people to get off their lazy asses and answer your questions.
These clips need to be played 24-7, non-stop.
Riley CJ said that tonight.
I just, I don't care anymore about the hate comments.
unidentified
*sniff* Thank you.
laura loomer
I don't care if you call me an Islamophobe.
I don't care anymore.
unidentified
Okay.
laura loomer
I don't care.
Because the future of my country and fighting back against the Islamification of America matters more to me than you crying about how I'm a so-called Islamophobe.
I don't care.
Okay.
I honestly don't care.
So if you're going to call me a Muslim hater or you're going to call me an Islamophobe, I don't care.
I don't hate Muslims.
I want Muslims to free themselves from this barbaric ideology.
I want Muslim women to be freed from the abusive, oppressive system, the abusive political ideology known as Islam.
I want people to be free from this barbaric ideology.
I don't hate Muslim people.
I don't want to watch third world Muslims coming to America and having terror festivals in cities like Detroit.
just don't.
tim pool
I don't care.
Yeah.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you.
laura loomer
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Unbelievable.
We've been streaming now for over three and a half hours.
And this is why I do it.
This is why I wake up at five o'clock in the morning every day and I'm up till one, two o'clock in the morning.
We really get any sleep because our country is under attack.
We have been invaded by Muslims.
We have been invaded by Chinese communists.
We have been invaded by the enemy.
And these people want to kill us.
They want to destroy America.
And no, that's not me saying this.
Listen to their own words from these clips that I played for you tonight.
Just listen.
All you got to do is listen.
Just got to open your eyes and open your ears and open your mind to the truth.
We're illuminating the truth.
That's why I call my media company Illuminate Media.
Illuminate.
We are illuminating the truth, shining a light on the lies, waking you up to the Islamification of America so that you don't find yourself with a gun to your head by a Muslim in our country telling you to convert or die.
That's going to be your future if our lawmakers don't start standing up to the threat of Islam in America.
So what are you going to do?
You're going to sit back and you're going to take it?
Or are you going to get on the phone and call your representative tomorrow and start speaking out?
Only you can save your country from succumbing to the threat of a global Islamic caliphate.
With that, I hope you found this episode of Loomer Unleashed tonight to be informative and educational.
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rush limbaugh
There is a young female journalist, conservative journalist by the name of Laura Loomer.
alex jones
If America's men acting like Laura Loomer, our problems will be fixed in about five minutes.
unidentified
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