Loomer Unleashed - Laura Loomer - EP138: Media Goes Crazy Over Loomer Loyalty Tip Line

Aug. 5, 2025 - Loomer Unleashed - Laura Loomer

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EP138: Media Goes Crazy Over Loomer Loyalty Tip Line

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	There is a young female journalist, conservative journalist by the name of Laura Loomer.
	If America's man acted like Laura Loomer, our problems will be fixed in about five minutes.
	Chained herself to Twitter.
	She chained herself.
	Chained herself.
	Chained herself.
	Good evening, and welcome to episode 138 of Loomer Unleashed.
	I'm your host, Laura Loomer.
	We are live right now on Rumble and X. So please be sure that you head on over to rumble.com slash Laura Loomer.
	That's rumble.com slash Laura Loomer.
	Click the green follow button.
	Be sure that you also click the red get loomered button.
	That will take you to my locals page where you can subscribe to support my work for $7 a month or $70 per year.
	You can also make a one-time contribution or multiple, whatever you want to do, you can do to contribute to support the publication here that has the entire country chirping today.
	Seems like, I mean, I don't have to say seems like I am the top news story today.
	Shouldn't be the top news story today because really the top news story should be the vetting that I do.
	But instead of focusing on the vetting, the media wants to, you know, make it about me.
	Literally, the front page story on Drudge Report today was about me.
	Front page story on all of the major news outlets today were about me, actually.
	We'll get into that momentarily.
	In the meantime, we are live on X. So please be sure that you head on over to X, follow me on X.com slash Laura Loomer.
	Also, be sure that you're following the Loomer Unleashed account, X.com/slash Loomer Unleashed.
	We're going to be doing a lot of midterm coverage as well.
	I'm already starting to cover a lot of the Senate races, the key Senate races that are taking place.
	You have Roy Cooper, Radical Democrat in North Carolina.
	You have John Osoff in Georgia.
	So my team and I are going to be playing in all of the major Senate races.
	We are already uncovering lots of dirt on John Cornyn in the very contentious and anticipated Texas GOP Senate primary between John Cornyn and Ken Paxton.
	So be sure that you're following the Loomer Unleashed account because we will be ramping up our midterm coverage and it's going to be pretty bombastic.
	It's going to be pretty sensational.
	It's going to be truthful, but sensational because if you followed me and you've been following me, you were following me all throughout the 2024 election season, you know that it was the hits and the punches, journalistic punches, of course.
	We're not talking about actual violence and punches.
	We're not the radical left.
	We're not playing Minecraft either.
	But it was Loomer Unleashed that landed the most devastating punches and blows to these Democrats who were running for Senate.
	I mean, look, even the NRSC contacted me after the 2024 election and they told me that they were able to have a victory in at least definitively, they thought that three of the victories that they had in 2024 were directly attributed to my journalism and that they were very impressed, especially the exposés that we did here at Loomer Unleashed on Sherrod Brown.
	Remember Sherrod Brown, the radical Democrat who allowed for Ohio to be completely invaded by Haitian invaders who were eating people's dogs and cats and their pets.
	We confronted him.
	We were the only publication to confront the senator about the Haitians who were eating people's pets.
	Video got millions of views online, like literally over 24 million views.
	And within three days of that video coming out, he dropped 14 points.
	So my point is, is that we are landing big hits, big blows on Senate candidates, and they're scared.
	You wouldn't believe the types of phone calls I get on a daily basis from political operatives all across the country.
	Some of them begging to work with me.
	Some of them begging me not to get involved in their races.
	Some of them begging me to, you know, sit down and meet their candidate so that they can explain themselves to me.
	Because the problem is, and this is, you know, this really dovetails very nicely into the segment tonight.
	Really, tonight's episode is a Laura Loomer Reacts episode because the entire day, I was trying to get my work done, trying to do my research.
	You know, I'm working on a lot of projects right now, a lot of exposés.
	I have a lot of tips to go through.
	We have a lot of tips that have been submitted to the Loomered loyalty line at loomered.com.
	Again, if you're not familiar with the Loomered tip line and you are a private citizen, or maybe you're a federal worker, or maybe you're a Trump administration official, and you want to blow the whistle on a disloyal individual who works within the administration or a disloyal federal worker or federal contractor, go to the dropdown bar on lumer.com and you can clip, click the tip line, insert your name, your email, the subject, your message.
	And you can use a fake email.
	Like if you Want to be totally anonymous, and obviously, I'm not just taking anonymous information.
	I have to investigate, I have to vet the information myself.
	A tip is a tip, right?
	So, I saw some trolls online the other day when I said, Yeah, you could be anonymous if you want.
	Oh, what could possibly go wrong with some crazy woman on the internet taking anonymous tips?
	Well, isn't that how the media operates?
	Anonymous sources, anonymous sources, anonymous sources said this about Donald Trump.
	Anonymous sources told us that Donald Trump did this today.
	Anonymous sources told us that Susie Wiles did this today.
	It's so funny, isn't it?
	How the tables have turned.
	The tables have turned.
	It's okay when the mainstream media has anonymous sources, but it's not okay when I have anonymous sources.
	It's not okay when I tell people, go use a fake name, go use a fake email if you want to be completely anonymous and submit your message.
	And I obviously have to vet the information and make sure that the information is correct.
	But if a tip leads to me finding out accurate information, what's so bad about that?
	Isn't that what the media does every single day?
	That's what they do.
	Every single news article.
	I mean, even the articles that we're going to go through tonight talking about Laura Loomer, Laura Loomer, Laura Loomer, Laura Loomer, Laura Loomer.
	I call it Loomer derangement syndrome.
	You know, you have Trump derangement syndrome, which is a disease.
	And then you have Loomer derangement syndrome.
	And it's kind of getting up there on that same level.
	I don't think that anything is ever going to top Trump derangement syndrome, but every single time I am in the news, the media just dogpiles.
	They just love talking about the work that I'm doing.
	They love insinuating things about me, smearing me, calling me a conspiracy theorist, calling me an Islamophobe, calling me a far-right activist.
	They never want to actually just give me credit for the work that I do.
	But now, because President Donald Trump himself recognizes the value in my work and he recognizes the value in my obsessive research, as the Washington Post called it today, it's getting kind of hard for them to dismiss me.
	I don't think that they can really ignore me anymore.
	They tried for years to ignore me.
	For years, they lied about me.
	They called me a white supremacist.
	They deplatformed me.
	I'm still banned on pretty much every single social media platform except for X. And of course, I have my show here on Rumble and I have my website, lumer.com, but I am still banned.
	I just had to file a writ of sertiori with the Supreme Court the other day because I want them to hear my case, my RICO case against Meta.
	Everybody knows what happened to me.
	Everybody likes to pretend like I didn't get royally fucked over and that I didn't get the most raw deal ever.
	Okay.
	I had 10 years of my life stolen from me, stolen potential.
	And it's so funny, like looking at all these haters online, they think I'm getting paid.
	They're like, oh, she's getting paid.
	She's getting paid by big pharma.
	She's getting paid by, I don't know, whatever.
	They seem to think that like all these people are paying me as if like, you know, I'm not allowed to make a living.
	First of all, I'm allowed to make a living as a journalist.
	We have sponsors here on this show, Kirk Elliott, Precious Metals, obviously.
	I have my Rumble sponsors as well.
	I am an exclusive Rumble creator.
	Okay.
	So am I not allowed to make a living doing my journalism, right?
	Not allowed to have sponsors.
	I just don't understand.
	Am I supposed to be homeless?
	The question is, is oh, who's paying Laura Loomer?
	Well, who's paying me?
	My subscribers, my sponsors, the people who want to support my work.
	And if you want to support me and you want to pay me, you can go to lumer.com on my website.
	There is a donation button on the dropdown bar next to the tip line.
	And you can mail me a check.
	You can donate online.
	You can click to donate on my online portal.
	You can donate by sending me a check.
	So, yeah, I'm paid, paid by the American people.
	Everybody's allowed to make a living.
	I'm making an honest living.
	Doesn't mean that I work for big pharma or that, you know, I'm working for some special interest.
	I'm allowed to investigate whoever I want to investigate.
	And I'm not bound by the rules of the administration because I don't work for the administration, right?
	That's the beauty in all of this is people wanted me silenced.
	That's what's so funny about this whole situation is that you can tell a lot of people are like, oh shit, it's a double-edged sword because they want me to expose the things that I'm exposing.
	But sometimes people may not like the type of exposure that is created as a result of me doing the work that I do.
	But my argument to them is, well, you deprived me of my professional opportunity for the last 10 years of my life by staying silent when I was viciously deplatformed and debanked.
	And now tonight, I just tweeted the article.
	Now we're finding out that Bank of America and JP Morgan Chase debanked the president of the United States and that they're not accepting his deposits.
	I mean, I already knew that Donald Trump was debanked.
	I wrote about it in my book.
	And when I met with President Trump for the first time at Mar-a-Lago, I even mentioned to him, I said, oh, you know, you and I, we have a lot in common.
	He's like, oh, yeah, what do we have in common, Laura?
	And I told him, I was like, I've been debanked too.
	And you could tell he's like a little freaked out.
	He's like, whoa, how do you know that I was debanked?
	Because at that time, it hadn't really been reported that, you know, he was very debanked.
	And so I pay attention to these things.
	I know these things.
	And that's why I filed a RICO case against a lot of these big tech social media companies, right?
	But my point is, is that in a sense, these people created the monster that they want to take down, right?
	They think I'm a monster.
	They think I'm some kind of villain.
	Somebody the other day said that I'm Donald Trump's resputin.
	That's how they described me.
	They said, Laura Loomer is Donald Trump's resputin.
	I kid you not.
	I heard it.
	I don't even know who said it, but I heard it.
	I was listening to some interview somewhere and, you know, just listening to all this shit that people say.
	People send me things all the time.
	Can't even keep up with it, honestly.
	I actually subscribe to a service.
	I actually subscribe to a service to try to keep up with it all because there's so much.
	I'm literally paying like $6,000 a year for this service so that I can get the updates every single day.
	That's how much news coverage there is around me and, you know, the work that I'm doing on a daily basis.
	I have to literally pay $6,000 a year for a professional service to track all the media mentions of my name because I have to make sure that people are not defaming me and that people are not trying to tarnish my reputation.
	And I have to pay people to literally go through these clips on a daily basis and archive them so that I know what every single person is saying about me at every second of the day.
	So, you know, it's a lot of work.
	It's a lot of work on top of everything that I'm already doing with the investigative reporting and the vetting and the research.
	And it's a lot.
	It's a lot to do.
	But why do I bring this up?
	Because they debanked me years ago.
	They deplatformed me.
	They all want to pretend like I didn't run for Congress.
	I just love how they never want to treat me with the respect that I deserve.
	They never say congressional candidate Laura Loomer, primary winner, Laura Loomer.
	I want a primary.
	I want a primary.
	Do you know how fucking hard it is to win a Republican congressional primary, especially when, you know, you're the most banned person in the country, if not the most banned woman in the world?
	Do you know how hard it is in the modern digital era during COVID to win an election when the media is running hit piece after hit piece about you every day?
	You're banned from, You know, being able to participate in the debates, and you're denied access to social media, the only candidate in the nation denied access.
	You know how hard that is?
	You know how hard it is to go and raise, you know, nearly $2 million as a candidate by yourself in small grassroots donations because nobody wants to help you and you have to do it yourself.
	I couldn't even find a fundraiser.
	I had a digital fundraiser.
	You know that none of the major GOP fundraisers would work with me.
	Now it's so funny because everyone's calling me kissing my ass, right?
	Everyone wants to work with me now.
	A lot of people want to work with me now.
	But when I ran for Congress, nobody would even touch me.
	They wouldn't, I had a list that I couldn't get people to rent my list.
	I couldn't get people to run emails for me.
	I couldn't get mail vendors to send out mail for me.
	I couldn't get the media to talk about the fact that Comcast blocked my campaign from sending out emails or text messages.
	I don't really think people understand or appreciate what I had to personally go through these last 10 years of my life to get to where I am today.
	And no, nobody helped me.
	I had my supporters, the American people, but I don't have some rich daddy.
	I don't have, you know, rich parents who gave me a silver spoon in my mouth.
	My political connections were not just given to me.
	I worked for everything that I had.
	I was viciously smeared.
	I was broke.
	There was a time where I literally thought that I wasn't going to be able to pay my rent.
	So I know what it's like to be poor.
	I know what it's like to financially struggle.
	And I know what it's like to have absolutely nothing, even though you could have something because you want to work and you want to be able to do something.
	I probably couldn't even get a job at McDonald's 10 years ago because of the way that the media viciously smeared me, trying to make it out to seem like I was some KKK member or, you know, I was some Klansman.
	Ted Bundy and I literally have the same birthday.
	We do.
	I saw that online.
	Ted Bundy and I literally have the same birthday.
	Do you know that Ted Bundy has a nicer Wikipedia page than me?
	You can look it up.
	You can look it up right now.
	Thank you.
	He has a nicer, he has a nicer Wikipedia page than me.
	Well, I thought he had the same birthday as me.
	One of these serial killers has the same birthday as me.
	But, you know, it's like serial killers.
	My point is that serial killers literally have nicer Wikipedia pages than me.
	It's true.
	I mean, you can like read this and you can look at my Wikipedia page, go to my Wikipedia page, and you'll see.
	It was Ted Bundy.
	Ted Bundy, I was one day I just went through serial killers' Wikipedia pages and I was looking at their birthdays and I was looking at their pages to see like how they describe them, right?
	So American far-right political activist, conspiracy theorist, internet personality.
	You can scroll down.
	Proud Islamophobe, white nationalist.
	Loomers gained notoriety as a result of being banned from numerous social media platforms, including Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, payment processors, vehicles for hire, food delivery mobile apps for various reasons, violating policies on hate speech, posting misinformation.
	She's also been banned from events and had press credentials revoked for harassment causing disturbances.
	She was the Republican nominee to represent Florida's 21st congressional district in the 2020 United States House of Representatives election, losing to Democrat Lois Frankel.
	She also ran in the Republican primary for Florida's 11th congressional district in 2022, losing to incumbent Daniel Webster.
	In April 2023, Donald Trump sought to hire Loomer for his presidential campaign, but a senior campaign advisor successfully discouraged Trump from doing so.
	By September 2024, some Trump supporters and others had expressed concerns about Loomer continuing, her continuing presence around and the influence on Trump.
	So you can scroll down, you can see everything that they say about me, activities.
	I mean, they just lie about me.
	They say I started an ISIS club.
	Well, they don't really reveal the context of the ISIS club and the fact that it was an expose on my university.
	Scroll down.
	They say I tried to entrap Hillary Clinton.
	They don't talk about the fact that my exposés were actually used by President Trump during the debate.
	They don't talk about all of the incredible work that I've done, all of the stories I've broken, all of the political influence that I've had in breaking massive stories that have had a massive impact on our political landscape in our country over the last 10 years.
	They never say it.
	They just smear me.
	They just, you know, they even try to make me ask me like a whack job for protesting the production of Julius Caesar by the New York public theater when they were, you know, doing the assassination of the Trump lookalike.
	They never want to talk about any of the work that I've done to support the president.
	They never want to talk about any of the work that I've done to make my country a better place.
	They never want to talk about the hardship that I went through when I ran for Congress.
	I was the only deplatformed candidate.
	I mean, if you go to Google right now, just to give people a little trip down memory lane, and it's important for people to have this context, right?
	Because I'm so sick of it.
	I'm so sick of it.
	Like every day, oh, well, how does she have this influence?
	Where did Laura Loomer come from?
	Well, she's an influencer.
	No, I'm not an influencer.
	Okay.
	I'm not some bimbo influencer that just posts on social media.
	Okay.
	I had a very large news publication with, you know, several millions of dollars of pledged investments into my media company before I was banned.
	Okay.
	That's what I had.
	I had millions of dollars of investments pledged into my company before I was completely and viciously deplatformed.
	I had meetings with donors in Beverly Hills, meetings with donors in New York City, and, you know, several donors, about five different donors collectively had pledged about $2.5 million, $3 million to help me create an app and take my lumering to the next level.
	It was supposed to basically be like the right-wing political TMZ.
	That's what I was in the process of developing before I was completely deplatformed on every single social media platform.
	So just think about that.
	If this was in 2018 and I had several donors who were willing to commit between $2.5 and $3 million upfront investments into my media company to help me create this app that would have crowdsourced viral news clips, would have trained people.
	Where would I be today?
	I kind of wonder, right?
	Like, if this was in 2018, where would I be today had I not been deplatformed?
	In 2019, I had 500,000 Instagram followers.
	Where would I be today had, you know, my account not been completely deplatformed?
	Where would I be today if I would have been able to promote my book with my millions of followers when I wrote a book at the end of my congressional campaign explaining what it was like being the most banned woman in the world?
	Where would I be?
	How much money would I have?
	Where would I be?
	Would I be working for mainstream media?
	Would I have, you know, multi-million dollar media company?
	Would I have a billion-dollar app idea?
	Like, where would I be today?
	I'm never going to know.
	I'm never going to have the answer to those questions.
	I'm never going to know.
	I'm never going to have the answer to those questions because, yeah, you know, I can be resentful over the financial aspect of it and the fact that, you know, I've missed out on millions of dollars of revenue because of what these people in big tech did to me and because of all the smear campaigns perpetuated by the radical left and the GOP against me over the last 10 years of my life.
	But what's worse than the financial missed opportunities is just the lost potential.
	It's lost opportunity.
	I'm 32 years old.
	Okay.
	And I just think to myself, like, what could I have accomplished over the last 10 years of my life as a woman in my prime, as a woman in my prime, from the time I was 22 years old to now being 32?
	What could I have accomplished in the last 10 years of my life?
	And then people are like, oh, well, you know, you've already accomplished so much.
	And oh, you know, I'm so proud of you.
	You should be so proud of yourself.
	Yeah, I'm proud of myself.
	But, you know, I kind of want more, right?
	Like, I kind of want to know what's been taken from me.
	I kind of want to know where I would be right now had it not been for all of the vicious deplatforming.
	So I would say there's nothing worse than missed opportunities, stolen potential.
	When I say missed opportunities, I mean like stolen opportunities, right?
	Not missed because, oh, I'm lazy or, oh, I'm not motivated or, oh, you know, I'm not creative or, oh, you know, I'm not smart.
	I'm not driven enough.
	Like, what is the monetary, social, and political value of my stolen potential over the last 10 years of my life?
	I mean, if these people are talking about how influential I am now, how much more influential could I be had I not had those last 10 years of my life pretty much robbed for me as a result of all the censorship and debanking and deplatforming.
	So it's interesting.
	And it's funny, like listening to the way the media goes, oh, well, you know, who is she?
	Who is this girl?
	Like, who's this 32-year-old woman who has the influence that she has?
	Well, they know, right?
	Because they all participated in the digital cancel culture of my life, the digital extermination of my career, the character assassination, the deplatforming, the debanking over the last 10 years of my life.
	They know.
	They know what they did to me.
	So why are they pretending like they don't know who I am?
	They know who I am.
	They've known who I am for a long time.
	Yeah, I'm young, but I did a lot in my early 20s.
	I did a lot.
	I was very politically connected, very social media savvy, very media savvy from a very young age.
	I was the communications director for Project Veritas at 21 years old, right?
	So it's a lot.
	I managed all the social media and all the communications for a rollout during the presidential campaign in 2016 with the biggest October surprise of the election season.
	So it's demeaning.
	It's so demeaning when they say, oh, who is this girl?
	What has she done?
	They know what I've done.
	They know what I've done.
	They know the stories that I've broken.
	They know the exposés that I've played a role in.
	They know the people who I've worked with.
	They know.
	That's why President Trump himself said, oh, I've known Laura Loomer for a long time, right?
	We have the clip actually.
	Just as a reminder, before we get into this coverage tonight, because we're going to bring my longtime friend and mentor, Roger Stone, on.
	But Trump even said himself, oh, I've known her for a very long time.
	I've known her for a very long time.
	Well, how do people think he's known me for a long time?
	How do people think he's known me for a long time?
	You think I just popped out of nowhere?
	Donald Trump was a donor to Project Veritas.
	People don't even know that Donald Trump became a donor to Project Veritas because of me, because he saw my investigation that prompted his interest.
	And he faxed over a signed letter to James O'Keefe at Project Veritas in response to my investigation that went viral.
	Okay.
	They don't even know that James O'Keefe got invited to meet with President Trump, who was then not even candidate Donald Trump.
	This was before he even ran for president, got invited to meet with Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago as a result of my investigative journalism.
	So yeah, Donald Trump has known about me for a long time, right?
	I didn't just pop out of nowhere.
	So I just, I don't know, I guess my biggest reaction to the way that the media reacts to me and the way that the media talks about me is just the pure dishonesty in what they've done.
	And I guess it's just had this kind of like glorious kind of Streisand effect, right?
	I guess you could say that because President Trump himself has said the hunters are now the hunted.
	The hunters are now the hunted.
	And that's right.
	These people who spent the last 10 years of my life hunting me and trying to take me down the last 10 years of their life trying to take down Donald Trump and hunt Donald Trump, they're getting hunted now.
	And they don't like it.
	They don't like it because essentially all these people in the mainstream media, they rely on leakers.
	They rely on bad people within the Trump administration leaking to them and betraying Donald Trump's trust.
	That's their entire source network within the federal government.
	It's how they make their money.
	That's how they break their news stories by disloyal people around the president.
	So I'm about to cut into these people's profit margins, which is why they're starting to freak out.
	That's why there's such a media frenzy and why I was the front page of Drudge Report today.
	You can get that pulled up too.
	But this morning, they may have changed it since this morning.
	What if you got a Drudge Report earlier this morning?
	I was the top story on Drudge Report.
	I'm sure it's still there if you scroll down a bit.
	I have the screenshot of it.
	But this morning, I was the front story.
	You can keep on scrolling down.
	There we go.
	It was the top this morning.
	But I've been on the front page of Drudge for the last four days in a row.
	Inside Loomers Rise, Obsessive Research, Oval Office Visits, The Enforcer, More Scalps.
	We're going to get into that all tonight.
	But I really honestly think that's the reason why they're freaking out is because if I am successful in rooting out all of the disloyal operatives within the president's inner circle, who's going to be the source for The media.
	Who's going to be the source for the left-wing anti-Trump media?
	They're not going to have any sources.
	So that's probably why they're freaking out.
	We can go ahead and play this Trump clip again because, again, people always love to say, oh, you know, Trump doesn't know who she is.
	Trump never offered to hire her.
	Oh, you know, she just popped up randomly.
	No, the president has known of me for at least a decade.
	Okay.
	As I said before, and you can verify the story with James O'Keefe.
	He literally invited James O'Keefe to Trump Tower and became a donor to Project Veritas because of my video investigation about ISIS clubs on college campuses.
	Okay?
	True story.
	Go ahead and play the clip.
	What is your relationship with Laura Loomer?
	What kind of influence with Laura Loomer?
	What kind of influence does she have?
	I think she's very nice.
	I mean, I know she's known as a radical right, but I think Laura Loomer is a very nice person.
	I've known her for a long time.
	And, you know, personally, I think she's a patriot.
	And she gets excited because of the fact that she's a patriot and she doesn't like things going on that she thinks are bad for the country.
	I like her.
	I've known her for a long time.
	Yeah, that's right.
	But the media never wants to talk about that.
	We're going to bring Roger Stone in momentarily because Roger's going to join me to discuss this.
	We even have our own little stinger, Loomer Derangement Syndrome.
	Let's go ahead and play the stinger.
	We actually made a stinger for Loomer Unleashed because the media has gone so crazy in their attacks on me and their coverage of me.
	It's so obsessive, right?
	Their coverage of me is so obsessive.
	And look, I don't mind the coverage because they should be reporting on my work because it's good work.
	Spend a lot of time doing my work.
	I work 20 hours a day.
	I don't really sleep much.
	I think it's personally taken a toll on my health.
	If we're being totally honest here, made a lot of sacrifices.
	So it's about time that they start to actually cover my work and give it the credit that give me the credit that I deserve.
	And today they're finally admitting that my reports are very well researched.
	It's obsessive research because, like I said, for the last 10 years of my life, they stole my opportunity.
	They robbed me of my potential.
	So we've got a lot to catch up on.
	I'm talking about 10 years of my life stolen from me.
	So that's why it's just a fire hose every single day of media coverage because really, when you think about it, it's 10 years.
	I'm playing catch up right now for 10 years of stolen potential.
	Let's go ahead and play the Loomer derangement stinger.
	So far, who Trump has listened to is Laura Laura Loomer.
	I have concerns about her rhetoric, the problem with getting all your information from Laura Loomer.
	Laura Loomer came in and rooted out leaders within the National Security Council.
	In a second administration, you're going to get the Laura Loomers of the world who are in his ear, who are the ones helping run the country.
	It's terrifying.
	literally no one who is the equivalent of Laura Loomer on our side I don't think I feel like I can make a new video like that every single week.
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	We're going to be joined by Roger Stone momentarily, but let's go ahead and get this Washington Post article up because this was his story today that made everybody lose their minds.
	Inside Laura Loomer's Rise, Obsessive Research, Oval Office Visits.
	Laura Loomer has leveraged a personality that friends label obsessive and an extreme loyalty to Trump to emerge as a powerful figure in the president's orbit.
	This is just one of several, I guess you could call them profile pieces that were published today and yesterday.
	You can scroll down.
	We're going to go through it.
	Scroll up a little bit.
	Let's see.
	Laura Loomer's application.
	Scroll down.
	Laura Loomer's application for a White House press pass has gone unanswered for months.
	The jobs she said President Trump wanted her to take working for him have never materialized.
	So this is where people love gaslighting me, right?
	They say, oh, well, you know, President Trump really wanted you around, Laura, you'd be there.
	Well, that's the elephant in the room is that the president does want me around and he has hired me on four separate occasions.
	And if the president didn't want me around, well, you know, I wouldn't have been invited to the White House multiple occasions for several Oval Office visits where I briefed him on, you know, matters of disloyal personnel.
	So it's kind of interesting to me how, you know, it's been, it's been confirmed and reported on by the media that I have had these positions offered to me and given to me, but they have not materialized because, well, disloyal staffers want to block me because they want to obstruct the wishes of the president and they want To undermine the agenda of the president, and they want to disobey directives from the executive.
	And yet, there she was in the Oval Office on July 24th, her fourth time hit the White House since Trump returned to office after the president invited her during a recent phone call.
	Let's get this back on the screen.
	It was the latest example of the unlikely access that Loomer, a 32-year-old Florida-based MAGA activist and right-wing journalist, has with the world's most powerful ban.
	Loomer has taken credit for the ouster of several federal employees, including former National Security Advisor Michael Waltz and some on his staff.
	Vinay Prasad, the Food and Drug Administration's top vaccine regulator, and most recently, Jen Easterly, whose appointment to the faculty at West Point was rescinded last week.
	Her posts on social media have preceded other high-profile decisions, including the order ending Hunter Biden's Secret Service detail, which came after Loomer reported that he was being accompanied by agents on a trip to South Africa this spring.
	So, you know, to the author of this article's credit, they actually admitted that I got Hunter Biden's Secret Service detail revoked.
	I think it's the first time, aside from the New York Post, attributing this to me.
	And again, it's just an example of how I constantly break stories, massive stories that have massive implications for national security, massive stories that, you know, save the taxpayers millions of dollars.
	I mean, look, by getting Hunter Biden and Ashley Biden's Secret Service detail revoked, I've saved the taxpayers over $25 million.
	That's a fact.
	I've saved them over $25 million.
	That's not to even mention the millions of dollars in contracts that I got canceled at the Department of Defense and the Navy or NIH as it relates to animal testing.
	So I've saved the American people, American taxpayers, millions of dollars.
	I've broken massive stories, but they never want to give me credit for it.
	They finally admitted it here.
	The first time I've ever seen the media give me credit for being the person that got Trump to revoke Hunter Biden's Secret Service detail.
	But they always like to say, oh, you know, conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer, right-wing activist Laura Loomer, far-right activist Laura Loomer.
	Well, how about damned good investigative journalist Laura Loomer?
	I don't know.
	You know, I just don't know why they refuse to talk about my background or my skill set.
	The fact that I finished college, graduated college as valedictorian, had a 4.0 GPA at the highest GPA out of my entire graduating class.
	Never attended a single college party.
	Excelled academically, excelled professionally.
	And if there's one person who knows me better than anybody, aside from James O'Keefe, who has been there since day one and knew me when I was a 19-year-old college student and has seen me progress over, you know, the last 12 years of my life, going from the president of College Republicans to being banned to doing my activism.
	He was really there.
	He was really one of the inspirations to me launching my sensational Loomered videos, the act of confronting politicians and live streaming it.
	If there's one person who was there from the beginning, who has seen it all, who can vouch for every single thing that I'm saying, and coincidentally, this same person happens to be one of President Trump's most trusted advisors and one of his closest friends, it's my friend, my mentor, and political icon, Roger Stone, who joins me now live on Loomer Unleashed.
	Roger, nice to have you on the program tonight.
	You're looking almost as tan as I am this evening.
	Laura, it's great to be with you.
	I like to tell people I knew you when you were a blonde.
	When I met you, you were working for James O'Keefe.
	You were a blonde, and we were blowing Clinton rape whistles together, as I recall.
	Yeah, that photo is online too.
	You're absolutely right.
	And, you know, Roger, people always ask me and they've asked me a lot over the last several years.
	And you know this because you've, you know, been with me through it all from, you know, when I first launched my career, when I first became the president of College Republicans, from my time working with Project Veritas and James O'Keefe to when I left Project Veritas and launched my own media company, to the time that I was working with InfoWars.
	I mean, every step of my career to the time when I decided to run for Congress two times and you were one of my campaign advisors.
	I mean, you've seen it from the beginning.
	And so I thought that as somebody who's been my mentor and as somebody who has really been there since the beginning, it'd be great to have you on tonight, especially because there's nobody better than you to come on and talk about the political history of Donald Trump and really who's been there since the beginning, because you were the first person to really tell President Trump to run for president.
	And we're not talking about 2015.
	We're talking about, you know, his political activities in the 70s and the 80s.
	And you've known President Trump for over 45 years.
	And so I wanted people to hear it from you because I'm sure you've seen the media today has just been on a tirade.
	The front page of Drudge this morning was talking about the rise of Laura Loomer's political influence.
	The Washington Post had a profile pieced out.
	Semaphore had a profile out.
	The New York Times had a profile out.
	I mean, every single major publication today had a profile out.
	And so I wanted you to come on to set the record straight so that we could respond to this frenzy together because you are also somebody who has played a massive role in the political history of our country over these last, not just 10 years, but your entire political career, your entire life.
	And oftentimes, even that is taken away from you.
	Well, Laura, everything you say is true.
	I mean, you are, you're relentless.
	You're indefatigable.
	You are unsurpassed in terms of your loyalty to the president.
	You were with him from the very beginning.
	You ran twice for Congress as a Trump supporting Republican.
	And it does kind of tickle me to see all of these fake news media outlets flipping out.
	You know, I remember back when both of us were essentially completely and totally banned, being for life on Twitter, being for life on Facebook, being for life on Instagram, being for life on YouTube.
	And through it all, you have persevered.
	We don't always agree.
	We disagree sometimes.
	You always know when I disagree with you because you're always accessible.
	But look, my hat's off to you because you are intensely loyal to this president.
	This is the most consequential presidency in my lifetime.
	And even if Trump had not made the greatest comeback in American political history, against all odds, his first term would have already put him among the pantheon of greatest presidents.
	And now, look what he's done.
	All of the so-called economic experts said that his fight for better trade deals, better tariff deals with our trading partners were going to cause rampant inflation, out-of-control unemployment.
	The stock market would crash.
	It's the same nonsense we heard in his first term.
	Yet you see that we have a record low on inflation, record low inflation.
	Unemployment remains low.
	The dollar remains strong.
	We had a record Dow.
	So once again, the experts are wrong.
	Donald Trump is right.
	And for the first, in the month of June, for the first time in 15 years, we actually had a surplus.
	This is because of the enormous revenue revenues Donald Trump is bringing in based on his economic plan.
	So he's got a brilliant team in Scott Bessant, the Secretary of the Treasury, Howard Luttnick, the Secretary of Commerce, Bill Pulte over at the Federal Housing Finance Agency.
	He's got an all-star team, whether it's Robert Kennedy, whether it's Toshi Gabrier, whether it's Marco Rubio, who has impressed me incredibly in the job he's done of carrying out the Trump mandate.
	This is an all-star team.
	And I really do think we're headed to a golden age.
	And Laura, you were there from the very beginning of that, there is no doubt.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And I appreciate you saying that.
	And, you know, it's been an interesting last 10 years because as you said, you know, we've gone through this together.
	I was at your house the day that you were raided by the FBI.
	I was with you the night that President Trump pardoned you.
	I was with you and your family on Christmas Eve and the president called you to give you the news.
	We were together the night that I was permanently banned from Twitter, if you recall.
	We were having dinner with my father about to celebrate Thanksgiving dinner together.
	And so as somebody who has been, I guess, victimized by the deep state and also by big tech and the mainstream media and their efforts to digitally exterminate you, despite the fact that you and I are probably the most the two most politically astute individuals.
	And I will say this, you know, people are going to say, oh, stop tooting your own horn.
	But I would say that nobody has had a better political track record over these last 10 years about what's going to happen politically speaking in our country than you and me.
	And both you and I have been relentlessly attacked for it.
	I can't think of anybody else.
	Can you?
	I cannot think of two other people who have been more spot on politically over the last 10 years than you and I. Well, let's be very specific about this because I remember it extremely well.
	I think you and I were among the first people, if not the first people, to recognize the governor Ron DeSantis, who owes his entire rise in politics.
	Donald Trump lifted him out of obscurity, catapulted him to the Florida Republican nomination for the governorship.
	And then Ron was such a piss poor candidate.
	Donald Trump had to change his schedule three times in the final two weeks of the 2018 campaign to literally drag him over the finish line.
	He won by 25,000 votes out of 8.9 million cast.
	But you and I, I think, were the first two people to accurately predict that he would repay that loyalty.
	He would repay that patronage by plunging a knife in President Donald Trump's back and challenging for the nomination.
	We were ridiculed.
	People kept saying, oh, stop dividing.
	You're dividing us.
	He's not running.
	Stop dividing us.
	No, we were right about that.
	And I'm not so quick to forget because he's one of Stone's most important rules.
	A person who will stab you in the back once will stab you in the back again.
	Ron DeSantis would be managing a McDonald's somewhere outside of Orlando right now, if it weren't for Donald Trump.
	And he's repaid that patronage, that trust in him with nothing but treachery.
	And no, I'm not going to stop saying it because it's true.
	You said something that I completely agree with.
	And it's really at the core of what I believe and why I do what I do.
	A person who will stab you in the back once will stab you in the back again.
	And that's the whole basis of the Laura Loomer vetting tip line, right?
	That's the whole basis of the whole reason why, the whole motivation behind why I decided to launch the Loomer loyalty tip line on my website.
	The media is now freaking out.
	And we can go through all of these different news clips and I'm going to play some of them and have you react to them tonight, Roger.
	But that's what people need to understand.
	Somebody who will stab you in the back once will stab you in the back again.
	And they will do it a third time and a fourth time until you're bleeding on the ground and you have nothing else to give.
	And we saw it happen in 2016.
	We saw it happen in 2020.
	We saw it happen in 2024.
	And over my dead body, am I going to allow it to happen until 2028 again?
	I'm not going to allow for these people who stabbed the president in the back to find their way back into the Trump administration or people who have been disloyal to the president to get another chance to shive him or to completely undermine him, which is what we saw take place on a daily basis, Roger, during the first Trump administration.
	It's one of the reasons why he was completely undermined, why people like yourself and General Flynn had their entire lives destroyed is because of a lack of vetting.
	If there would have actually been proper vetting systems set up during the first Trump administration, the Russia collusion hoax never would have happened.
	The first impeachment never would have happened.
	The second impeachment never would have happened.
	And so I wanted to get your thoughts on that because there's so much outrage from the left and the right about, oh, why does Laura Loomer have the influence that she has to vet these people?
	And why does she think that there needs to be loyalty proclamations made to the president of the United States?
	Why wouldn't there be proclamations of loyalty made to the commander in chief?
	I mean, am I crazy for thinking this?
	No, actually, so when I went to the Republican National Convention, you know, I saw the former White House chief of staff and former National Party chairman Reince Priebus.
	Now, Reince Priebus recommended Rod Rosenstein to be the number two man at the U.S. Justice Department.
	And it was Rod Rosenstein, who we now know, offered to wear a wire to try to entrap President Donald Trump in an effort to remove him as president under the 25th Amendment.
	It was Rod Rosenstein, who testified before the Senate saying that he never authorized the investigation into me, yet I have the actual document on October 20th, 2017, where he signed to authorize that investigation.
	But this was three weeks after it was clear that Robert Mueller knew there was no Russian collusion, knew the whole thing was a hoax.
	So I think it's a graphic example of why it's vitally important that the president surround himself with trustworthy people.
	And if you look at his cabinet, he is doing that.
	We are always going to have these Republicans who try to come late and say, oh, I was always a Trump supporter when they weren't Trump supporters.
	And the great irony, of course, the first term was that despite the fact that you had people like H.R. McMaster and General John Kelly and other Quizlings who thought that their job was to save the country from Donald Trump rather than carry out the president's vision for the country, he still emerged with a record strong economy.
	He still emerged rebuilding our military strength.
	He still avoided foreign wars, the first president in our lifetime to do so in modern days.
	He still appointed scores of conservatives to the federal bench.
	And in a very strange way, I actually think that because of his four years in the wilderness and because of the horrific tsunami of lawfare that they put him through, all it did was battle harden him.
	All it did was make him tougher, wiser, and more ready for what is now going to be the most consequential presidency in our lifetimes.
	This is a different Donald Trump in a way.
	He's tougher.
	He's always been tough, but he's tougher than ever before.
	Look, they tried to kill him, not once, but twice.
	They tried to keep him off the ballot.
	They tried to bankrupt him.
	They tried to throw him in jail, yet he still kept coming.
	Is that relentlessness, that determination, that grit, that stamina that I so admire him?
	It's what I saw in 1988 when I first suggested that he should run for president.
	I saw very early that he had the size.
	I don't mean the physical size, but the stature, the independence, the ability to think outside the box, the courage, the energy.
	I don't know when he sleeps.
	He sleeps even less than you do, Laura, and you don't get much sleep.
	Well, you don't sleep either.
	You're like my 3 a.m. texting buddy.
	Roger, Roger, and I will text each other at 3 o'clock or 4 o'clock in the morning and have hour-long conversations because we both have insomnia.
	But yes, we've been 4 a.m. texting buddies for a long time.
	But yeah, that's true.
	The president does have an incredible amount of stamina.
	He has more energy than most people I know.
	And I don't know how he does it.
	I mean, even on the campaign trail, occasionally in the few times that I was traveling with him, and you've seen this too, he'll do like four campaign rallies in one day in different time zones.
	I mean, it's incredible.
	And then he still has energy to watch the UFC fight and eat some McDonald's while flying home, right?
	So I've never seen anybody who has that much energy.
	And I don't think I've ever, ever seen the president close his eyes or rest his eyes or, you know, even display for one second that he's tired or complain about being tired.
	I've never heard him complain once about being tired or being exhausted.
	And if anybody has an excuse to be exhausted, it's President Trump.
	But you're absolutely right, Roger.
	I do think that in the first term, there really wasn't much room, given the people and the snakes and the advisors who surrounded President Trump for there to be proper feedback as it related to vetting.
	You would see like whisper campaigns online, but nothing was really ever acted upon, right?
	Like people did get fired, but treacherous people were still able to remain up until the very end of the first term.
	But what I really appreciate about, what I really appreciate about Donald Trump is that now, right, he's receptive to this information.
	He takes this information.
	I saw you at the White House last week.
	You and I ran into each other during my meeting with President Trump.
	You were at the White House as well.
	And the president now actually has his closest friends and his advisors and the most trusted people who actually have been there since day one present to give him information.
	And I'm not saying that I dictate what Trump does.
	You certainly don't dictate what Trump does.
	But would you or would you not agree that he's a lot more receptive, it seems like this term to actually hear out the information about people who surround him who may be working against him?
	Well, in all fairness, he was elected president coming from the world of business.
	It's not unreasonable for him to think that, well, there's the Republicans and there's the Democrats.
	The Democrats are against me.
	The Republicans will be with me because I won their nomination so sweepingly.
	And I think that he thought that just because someone had an R after their name meant that they were a good person.
	Eight years, four years in the wilderness, I think, altered his view.
	And I think today he's more skeptical.
	But I also think he's got a much, much better White House staff.
	I think Susie Wiles is an amazing woman.
	I think she does an amazing job.
	I think she was the glue that kept his presidential campaign together.
	And I'm sick of arguing with people about this on the internet who don't know anything.
	She does an amazing job for him because she understands that her job is to carry out the president's vision, the president's plan.
	He's the boss.
	She does an excellent job in my regard.
	I'm sick of people unfairly and falsely accusing her of all kinds of nonsense.
	No, she's not in the World Economic Forum.
	No, she was not a lobbyist for Pfizer.
	This is all nonsensical.
	But these people are, I think, jealous in many ways.
	When it comes to a presidential.
	I think they're jealous too.
	I mean, I get sick of what they say about Susie because they'll constantly say things like, oh, Susie Wiles is a deep state operative there to sabotage Trump.
	If she was a deep state operative there to sabotage Trump, why did Donald Trump have a MAGA mandate and win the presidential election and a blowout?
	I mean, really, honestly, think about it.
	If Susie Wiles was truly some kind of operative there to sabotage MAGA and sabotage Trump, why was Trump allowed to win the election?
	Why did Trump survive the assassination attempts, right?
	Plural.
	So I'm sick of it.
	I like Susie Wiles.
	I respect Susie Wiles.
	And Susie Wiles is one of the main people who is receptive to this information.
	And so do people honestly think that people like you and I would be able to get into the White House if Susie Wiles was some kind of a deep state operative and she didn't want President Trump seeing this information?
	I mean, do they honestly think that we're stupid?
	So I'm sick of people commenting on my posts saying things like, oh, go investigate Susie Wiles.
	No, I'm not going to investigate Susie Wiles.
	Susie's doing a phenomenal job.
	And, you know, there's a lot of people in the peanut gallery that want to constantly impose their opinion and what they think they're seeing from the outside.
	They have no idea what they're talking about.
	They have absolutely no idea what they're talking about.
	No, look, I'm a veteran of 13 national presidential campaigns going all the way back to Richard Nixon, three campaigns for the great Ronald Reagan.
	I think that the 2024 presidential campaign of Donald Trump was the greatest political campaign in Republican Party history.
	This is an all-star team.
	Susie Wiles, Chris La Cevita, Tony Fabrizio, without question, the most incisive, toughest, best survey researcher in the party today.
	This was an all-star campaign.
	Be constantly being second-guessed by people, all of whom turned out to be wrong.
	So the results are in the incredible victory.
	Winning every swing state, winning the national popular vote, which the pundits told us was impossible.
	And now I think you see an excellent White House staff carrying out the president's wishes.
	So I get tired of it.
	I've known Susie Wiles all the way back to when we both worked for Ronald Reagan.
	And it's interesting if you look at it historically, in every election, she's been with the outsider.
	She could have gone to work for Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio.
	She chose to work for Donald Trump in 2016.
	She could have worked for George H.W. Bush.
	She chose to work for Jack Kemp in 1988.
	She could have worked for George H.W. Bush in 1980, she chose to work for Ronald Reagan.
	Rick Scott was an outsider when he was elected governor of the state, but she helped get him across the finish line in a very tough race.
	And of course, I frankly think that she's very much responsible for the victory of Ron DeSantis.
	Ron DeSantis' nomination was kind of a media-fueled phenomena based on Fox and talk radio.
	And of course, the Trump endorsement, which is what propelled him.
	Well, I would say that it was a Trump-fueled phenomenon.
	He wouldn't have been able to get any of that leverage if it hadn't been for President Trump endorsing him over Adam Putnam at the very last minute.
	So if he owes anybody anything, it is.
	It's interesting that you say this, right?
	It's Trump and it's Susie, which is, it just adds to how treacherous Ron DeSantis is for what he ended up doing to Susie, trying to destroy her reputation and force her out of GOP politics in the state of Florida, he and his wife.
	And so it was really nice to see Susie awarded the Florida Statesman, or I guess you could say the Florida Stateswoman Award the other evening at the Florida GOP Awards Gala, where she was proclaimed to be the most powerful woman in the world by President Donald Trump.
	And she described 2024 as the most impressive and most amazing and the biggest political comeback in United States history.
	So I think that there's a lot of people out there who have no idea what they're talking about.
	And most of these people who have no idea what they're talking about are a lot of these mainstream media pundits who, you know, they want to criticize me.
	They want to criticize you.
	They want to criticize Susie.
	They want to criticize the people who have actually stood by President Trump the longest, and yet they constantly run cover for the people that are throwing knives at Trump and undermining him left and right.
	And my theory about this is the reason why the people in the mainstream media and bad actors who surround President Trump are so terrified about the Loomer hotline, the Loomer tip line for disloyal staffers is because that's going to chip away at their profit margins.
	Think about it.
	The mainstream media says that I'm a villain.
	I'm like Trump's Rasputin.
	There was actually a news article out today that said that Laura Loomer is like Trump's Rasputin because I'm taking so-called anonymous tips or anonymous sources on a tip line.
	But isn't that what the mainstream media does, Roger?
	Every single story is anonymous sources.
	So this puts them out of business because if we successfully root out all of the disloyal Trump officials or disloyal staff who want to undermine Donald Trump, who is going to be remaining within the Trump administration to serve as a so-called anonymous source or leaker?
	Perhaps you can comment on that.
	But that's my theory.
	That's why I think that they're so triggered by this, because we're about to root out, or I'm about to root out with my vetting operation, all of their sources.
	I think that's part of their hysteria.
	One other point I want to make, and that is a lot of Republicans across the country have contacted me in the last couple of days to ask about Senator Joe Gruters, who is clearly, I think, being designated by the president to assume leadership of the Republican National Committee.
	I'm a strong supporter of Joe Gruters.
	I think he'll do a great job in that position.
	Here in Florida, he stood up to a sitting governor to fully support Donald Trump to actually go into the state committee and defeat this loyalty oath, which was kind of a trap that they tried to set for the president.
	Joe Gruters will do an excellent job as national chairman.
	He's an excellent choice, and he can absolutely be trusted as being 100% loyal to the president.
	Why?
	Because he's proven it right here in the Sunshine State again and again.
	Absolutely.
	I fully endorse Joe Gruters as well to be RNC chairman, and he has my full support.
	I've known Joe Gruters for a very long time, for I think at least eight years.
	I met him when I ran for Congress.
	He was one of the only Florida lawmakers at the time to meet with me when I first launched my initial campaign for Congress in 2019.
	He stood up for me at a press conference when I was the only candidate, the first in the nation to be deplatformed on all social media.
	And he was one of the only state lawmakers to actually stand up against Ron DeSantis'illegal efforts to remove the resigned to run law or to modify the resigned to run law so that he could take a salary as the governor of Florida while also running a full time presidential campaign as an absentee governor.
	And illegally transfer nearly $85 million of Trump PAC money over to his president.
	presidential PAC.
	That was Trump donor money intended to be used for Ron DeSantis' 2022 gubernatorial reelection run.
	And Joe Gruters was one of the only people who stood up against it.
	And as a result, President Trump was demonized by Ron DeSantis and Ron DeSantis decided to personally attack Joe Gruters by docking his appropriations in the state budget for his district during hurricane season of all time.
	So in an area where a lot of Joe Gruiters, his constituents, you know, needed hurricane relief money.
	So I think it's important for people to remember this and the type of humiliation and attacks that Joe Gruiters personally faced and the way that he was attacked and punished financially and the way that Ron DeSantis and the rhinos in the state of Florida tried to actually take financial retribution against innocent Florida citizens simply because their state representative, Joe Gruiters, decided to stand with Trump over Ron DeSantis.
	That's all true.
	I think it's important.
	You raise a very important point.
	So previously under Florida state law, if you were in a state office and you chose to run for federal office, you had to resign the state office.
	They amended this law, but it only applies to the presidency.
	So if you were in, say, the state senate, you wanted to run for Congress, well, you still have to resign.
	But so they cut out an exception just for running for president was designed specifically for Ron DeSantis so he could remain as governor while running for president and so that he could leverage his position as governor to raise millions of dollars from the special interests and the lobbyists and the insurance industry and the gambling industry and the utility industry and so on.
	Because let's face it, nobody gave money to Ron DeSantis because they liked him.
	They either gave to him because they hated Donald Trump or because they were leveraged by the fact that you had a heavy-handed governor who would punish you if you did not give.
	What did we get here in Florida?
	The highest insurance rates in the country, the highest utility rates in the country.
	Two examples off the top of my head.
	So this upcoming governor's race is going to be extremely interesting.
	I am strongly supporting Byron Donalds.
	I think he's the right man for the job.
	I really kind of doubt at this point that Casey DeSantis will run.
	I think if she does run, I think Byron will beat her like a drum.
	But I think this recent scandal in which the governor and his wife misappropriated $10 million in Medicare money and moving it from a program for the poor, the disabled, and the elderly to a dark money pack where they then used it for their political purposes.
	I really think that is the end of the DeSantis dynasty, frankly.
	I'd say so too.
	And you don't really hear a lot of rumblings from the gator heads, as I like to call them on X anymore, because I think also these people are starting to internalize the fact that Ron DeSantis is done and Casey DeSantis has done too.
	So it'll be interesting to see what happens next because we know that Ron DeSantis doesn't have a home.
	He doesn't have a car.
	Really, he doesn't have any property or any assets.
	And so who knows what Ron DeSantis is going to do unless he's offered some kind of a position within the Trump administration.
	I know that there were discussions taking place about if Pam Bondi had been removed, that she would be replaced by Ron DeSantis.
	But it looks like, you know, Pam Bondi is not going to be removed.
	And so my question to you is, what do you think is in Ron DeSantis' future?
	Where do you think he's going to go?
	Do you think he's going to serve on the board of some defense company?
	What do you think Ron DeSantis is going to be doing when he has to vacate the governor's mansion, which as we know, as far as I know, is the only property that he really occupies because he doesn't own a house and he doesn't own a car.
	Where is he going to go?
	He seems very much to me like a man without a plan.
	I mean, look, we have, we had an open Senate seat that was vacated when Marco Rubio stepped down.
	The governor could have appointed a placeholder and then run for that seat.
	Remember, he wanted to run for the U.S. Senate before he ran for governor.
	So he can't say he's not interested in being a U.S. Senator.
	If he really is serious about a role in national politics, why doesn't he run for that seat?
	Instead, we have Minnie Mouse running for the seat, the Attorney General, Ashley Moody, who supported Ron DeSantis over President Donald Trump.
	I think she's an incredibly weak candidate, in all honesty.
	And my concern, in all trying to look down the road, is, and I don't think this is necessarily by any means certain, but if we should not hold the House, and I think we will hold the House, but if we should not hold.
	You think that we're going to hold the House.
	Yes, I do.
	First of all, I don't know.
	This is one of the only times I think I've ever disagreed with you.
	I think I've always agreed with you.
	Well, I mean, we don't agree on everything.
	I mean, we get into little spats sometimes on X because some of your friends are not my friends.
	But I love you and I respect you.
	So you're one of the few people who I actually will get on the phone with and I'll be like, tell me why you think this.
	But no, I honestly, I don't know.
	I can't really confidently say that we're going to that we're going to keep the house.
	I would like us to keep the house, but this may be one of the only times that I'm going to like disagree with you on air because I don't think the Republican Party is doing enough right now to mobilize and motivate the GOP base to turn out and vote in the midterms.
	Donald Trump is not at the top of the ticket this time around.
	First of all, anybody with deep experience in politics would know that you couldn't possibly make an accurate prediction of the outcome of the midterm elections when we're not even a year into the president's, the first year of his term.
	So it's much too early to say.
	I was very heartened today to see that Pam Bondi is moving to impanel a grand jury and put in front of it the evidence of the Russian collusion hoax, which is a seditious conspiracy and I think treasonous.
	We only know this thanks to the courage of Tulsi Gabber and the declassification process that she's played as the director of national intelligence and some of the early reports from CIA Director John Ratcliffe, who I think did a more shallow but still very meaningful dissection of the role of former CIA director John Brennan.
	So now, even though the mainstream media tries to pretend that none of this happened or that this is inconclusive or this is just opinion, no, actually we have hard, cold facts, more than enough to go to a grand jury.
	I was very pleased to hear that the Attorney General is pursuing exactly that path.
	So I think it is too early to say.
	Now, should we not hold people responsible?
	Should these people get away with what they have done?
	Then yes, I agree.
	Our base would not be energized and some Trump supporters might not show up, but it's much, much too early to determine whether we are going to hold the House or not.
	I still think it is more than possible.
	But let's say that we don't, just for the sake of discussion.
	Well, then you need Republican U.S. senators who will stand tall for Donald Trump because we both know they will try illegitimately once again to try to impeach him over some newly concocted horseshit.
	And there are some Republicans that I know cannot be counted on.
	So I think it is important to have Senate candidates in this next cycle.
	Some Republicans, Roger.
	Let's be honest, most Republicans.
	It's not some.
	It's most.
	We all know most of these people in the Senate don't like the president.
	Most of them cannot be trusted.
	I mean, let's be honest.
	They cannot be trusted.
	I do think it's important for the president to take a scalp in the primaries to demonstrate that he is the leader of the party and that the party has changed.
	Let me tell you something.
	Most of the senators didn't like Ronald Reagan either, but they had to support him because he was so popular.
	And so it is with President Donald Trump.
	And a Republican senator like, say, Tom Tillis of North Carolina, who decides to vote against the president's nominees.
	You know why he retired, Laura?
	Because he would have been beaten in a primary because of that vote.
	That's why he packed it in.
	It's so funny you mentioned Tom Tillis because we can go ahead and get this semaphore article pulled up.
	So Tom Tillis is a douchebag.
	We all know this.
	He was censured by his own party, if you recall, the Republican Party in North Carolina, because he voted against President Trump's President Trump's, well, he voted against funding President Trump's border wall.
	Really, this was dating back all the way to the first term.
	So he voted against the funding for President Trump's border wall.
	He supported sending billions of dollars of aid to Ukraine.
	He was weak on transgender issues.
	He was weak on issues regarding the Second Amendment and weak on issues about gun control.
	He's a coward.
	He has always been a full-blown Trump hater.
	He decided to take shots at me when President Trump invited me to the debate, if you were call, and he learned really, you know, he learned the hard way that tussling with me never ends well.
	I mean, if you're going to, if you're going to come for me, you best not miss because I will cut you.
	You know, I'm not, I'm not saying that I'm going to physically cut Tom Tillis, but I will go for your jugular and then I will fucking curb stomp you on the ground and make sure that you don't get up.
	And that's what I did to Tom Tillis.
	And Tom Tillis tried to sneak in, you know, legislation within the Big Beautiful Bill, a bill that he wasn't even planning on voting for, and he didn't vote for in the end, to try to eliminate the litigation finance industry.
	And he was hoping that nobody was going to notice this, right?
	Because it was in the middle of the conflict with Iran.
	And I exposed it and I identified it.
	And then President Trump started taking shots at him.
	And Tom Tillis had to literally announce his retirement on his anniversary.
	Instead of celebrating his anniversary with his wife, he had to issue a concession message online saying that he would be retiring because he wanted to spend more time with his wife.
	No, Tom, that's not the reason why you're retiring from the United States Senate.
	You're retiring because you're a pussy and you're a Trump hater and Donald Trump kicked your ass and he humiliated you and you would have been dragged through the mud and completely fucked up in a primary, Tom.
	That's why you decided not to run.
	So let's pull out this article here because I want to get your thoughts on this.
	I mean, I cannot stand Tom Tillis.
	If there's two people in the Senate who I absolutely hate, it's Lindsey Graham and it's Tom Tillis.
	I can't stand these guys.
	They tried to take cheap shots at President Trump and me when President Trump invited me to the presidential debate.
	And I just think these people need to be absolutely politically curb stomped.
	I hope Lindsey Graham loses his reelection.
	You can scroll down and see the comments here.
	Let's scroll down, talking about how Trump fired several national security officials.
	Let's do a keyword search.
	Okay, so behind the scenes, some Republicans are impressed with her.
	Others are dismissive.
	Senator Tom Tillis from North Carolina likened her to a callus that only appears after the work is done.
	I mean, how disrespectful.
	He's basically saying that I don't actually do original work and that I only show up when work has been done.
	Laura, let me give you a piece of advice, if I may.
	You need to stop mincing words and tell people how you really feel.
	You've got to quit holding back and tell people what's really on your mind.
	I just don't want to go to jail.
	Like if I told people what was really on my mind about Tom Tillis, I'd probably be in prison.
	Look, this guy is a worthy successor to Senator Burr from North Carolina, another Trump hater.
	This is one of the most annoying things ever.
	The defense that Barack Obama puts forward when he gets busted, cold-busted in the Russian collusion hoax is to say, oh, no, the Senate Intelligence Committee report, which was a bipartisan report, proved that there was Russian collusion.
	Actually, this is a paste-up of every cockamamie, unproven claim about Donald Trump, cut and paste right out of the Huffington Post, as if these are facts.
	These are not facts.
	And that report is a steaming pile of bullshit.
	And yeah, it was a bipartisan committee.
	It had three Trump hating Republicans on it at the time.
	So it has no credibility.
	I've deconstructed it.
	You can go to stonezone.com.
	I actually have a piece in which I say, I think the title is the Senate Intelligence Committee Report is Bunk.
	Look, I think that justice is coming for these people.
	I think I did an entire list today.
	As you know, I do a daily show at WABC Radio.
	You can hear it at wabcradio.com every evening, five days a week at 8 p.m.
	You can hear it online if you don't live in the greater New York, New Jersey, Connecticut area.
	Today, I read a list of everybody, it was a long list, of those who should be charged in the Russian collusion hoax, which is a seditious conspiracy and I think treason.
	So there's no statute of limitations.
	And I really believe that Pam Bondi is going to do the right thing.
	That was essentially announced today.
	Yeah, I hope she does.
	My point about Tom Tillis, though, is that, you know, he decided to bow out beforehand, but I wish that we could have just destroyed him during a primary or President Trump could have launched a primary against him like he's doing with Thomas Massey, because these people shouldn't be given the option to just retire early.
	They need to be publicly humiliated and learn a lesson.
	And they need to learn a lesson that Donald Trump is leader of the party.
	Let's continue on the semaphore article because it gets even worse.
	But he goes, she can say whatever she wants to to get follows or to monetize her following, said Tillis, a past member of GOP leadership's whip team.
	Yeah, you want to know one of the reasons why Tom Tillis wasn't selected for GOP leadership when he was in the running to become the Senate majority leader.
	It's because of me.
	It's because he got completely obliterated by me.
	And I supported Senator Rick Scott over John Thune.
	I supported Senator Rick Scott over Tom Tillis.
	And I completely destroyed Tom Tillis before he could get any momentum.
	I mean, you could ask Senator Rick Scott.
	I had a whole Senator Rick Scott's consultants calling me on the phone.
	It's like that meme from Family Guy, you know, where they're, what is it?
	Like they're kicking the dog on the ground and it's like, stop, stop.
	He's already dead.
	I mean, I was getting so many phone calls from the consultants of the Republican senators who were just like some of them begging me to stop, some of them asking me to keep on going because of the ass whooping that I gave to Tom Tillis.
	So he should actually come clean about why he doesn't like me.
	It's because I expose him for who he is.
	And I'm one of the reasons why he's not going to be running for reelection.
	Let's go back to this article so you can see what he said because it's just like the absolute hubris of somebody like Tom Tillis.
	He should never be allowed to show his face in public again.
	He said, all right, so she can say whatever she wants to to get follows or monetize her following, said Tillis, a past member of GOP leadership whip team, who last month fell out with Trump over his mega bill and is now retiring.
	She may be getting information, so that lets her get ahead of it.
	But I doubt seriously she's driving it, he added, because there's a lot of quality people in this administration who I think would have a real problem with that.
	Actually, I get my own information and I do my own research.
	One person close to the White House told Semaphore that Loomer is all over too many issues.
	Yeah, because I am a political savant.
	And as somebody who has known me since I was 19 years old, Roger, I think you can testify to the fact that when it comes to digging up opposition research and being aware of all the political issues and being able to stay on track on top of and on track of all of these political issues, in a way, I'm a opposition research savant, a political savant.
	Well, you are certainly relentless.
	There's no doubt about that.
	I agree with you, by the way, on Rick Scott.
	I think he would have been a much better majority leader than the current majority leader.
	And just now, in all honesty, I have a much greater appreciation of what a great governor he was of Florida compared to the governor we have today.
	And I also think he is a great future in this party.
	So I agree with you about that.
	Look, Tom Tillis took a powder because he would have lost a primary, and he knew that.
	The chances of beating Lindsey Graham are extraordinarily difficult simply because South Carolina, by long tradition, has an open primary, which means anyone, Republican or Democrat, or of any party or no party at all, can vote in the Republican primary.
	So you have a dynamic in which Democrats and independents, particularly in the Charleston area, will cross over to vote for The most liberal candidate.
	That would be Lindsey Graham.
	You also have the opposition to Lindsey Graham being divided now, I think, by three candidates.
	I only know one of them who I like, but I think it is the dynamics of the situation are extremely difficult.
	And of course, the president has a unique friendship with Lindsey Graham that is kind of hard for some of us to understand, but he's endorsed Lindsey Graham.
	So I think it'll be very tough.
	Someplace in one of these Senate races, I still think the president has to demonstrate this is his party.
	He is the leader of the party.
	And those who don't follow the leader will pay some penalty.
	Yeah, if you go back to the semaphore article, I'll show you what I said in response to Tom Tillis.
	I said, why the F should I care about Tillis's assessment?
	The only easy target I see is Tom Tillis.
	Such an easy target that he decided to announce his early retirement from the Senate on his anniversary after screwing Trump ahead of the vote on the big beautiful bill instead of actually running for reelection again.
	He is irrelevant.
	So, you know, that's my message to all of these people who want to try to undermine Donald Trump.
	If you think that you're going to get away with being disloyal to Donald Trump and you're going to get away with undermining Donald Trump and you're going to get away with not fulfilling the mandate, the MAGA mandate that the American people voted for in this last election season, we're going to make you irrelevant.
	And there does have to be this fear factor that exists.
	People do have to be on their toes and wonder whether or not they're going to be the next target of getting loomered or getting exposed or getting confronted for being disloyal or for undermining the president.
	Because I truly believe the only way, the only way to make people stay in line is if they are terrified of you.
	And I think that in this current political landscape, and correct me if you think I'm wrong, I'd love to get your opinion on this.
	I don't think that there's a lot of Republicans who want to willingly admit that Donald Trump is the Republican Party and Donald Trump is the leader of the Republican Party.
	I think that they pretended to believe that in 2024 so that they could get their endorsements and raise their money and they're going to pretend to believe it again ahead of 2026.
	But I don't think that they actually really believe it.
	Because if these people truly believed it, we wouldn't have to worry right now about ending the recess early to have a fast track of Senate appointments.
	That's my personal opinion.
	That's what I think.
	I don't actually think that they believe that he's the head of the Republican Party.
	I say a couple of things.
	First of all, Trumpism, the MAGA movement, the America First Movement, is so much bigger and more powerful than the Republican Party.
	Why is it that Donald Trump won when John McCain and Mitt Romney lost?
	It's because Donald Trump could reach certain voters in key states like Michigan, for example, or Arizona and others that those candidates could not reach.
	So Trumpism is more popular and the Trump doctrine is more popular and the American First America First agenda is more popular than the Republican Party itself will ever be.
	Secondarily, watching all these Democrats jump up and down about Jeffrey Epstein, wait till they get what they're asking for.
	What they're going to find is what I found out when I researched my 2015 book, The Clintons War on Women.
	As you know, Laura, the longest chapter in that book is on Jeffrey Epstein.
	I introduced, pardon me, I interviewed Virginia Roberts Jaffrey for six hours for that book.
	I read every word of her sworn testimony.
	I read the sworn testimony of the various victims of Jeffrey Epstein, who did who did not take millions of dollars to settle.
	I had the Epstein's telephone book in that book.
	I reflect that in my book.
	I also had the FAA manifest.
	You know, you're going to find on Epstein's Island?
	Democrats.
	That's what you're going to find.
	Bill Clinton, particularly, who is clearly on Epstein's plane, according to the FAA records, 26 times.
	Sworn testimony has him on the island at least three times.
	So this is going to backfire in spectacular fashion on the Democrats who seem to think Trump has something to hide.
	Trump has nothing to hide.
	Everything is known.
	Yes, he was on Epstein's plane.
	They took off from Teterboro.
	That's outside New York City.
	They flew to Palm Beach.
	And then it was on a Friday and Sunday.
	They flew back.
	Marlon Maples, who was his wife at the time, who remains a good friend of mine, and his daughter, Tiffany, who's a brilliant, brilliant student and lawyer, was on the plane along with a nanny.
	This proves exactly what?
	Proves nothing whatsoever.
	The simple fact is Donald Trump barred Jeffrey Epstein from his life in 2005 before Epstein was exposed as a sex trafficker, before he was exposed as a pedophile over an incident at Mar-Lago.
	And the Clintons continued to socialize with him, continue to take money from him.
	Between the time that Epstein was charged and the time he pled to the slap on the wrist that he got, thanks to Alberto Gonzalez and the Bush Justice Department, the Clintons took $25,000 from him.
	They would go on to take millions of dollars from him.
	So did Chuck Schumer, by the way, took thousands of dollars from him.
	So this is going to backfire in spectacular full exposure.
	Let's see all of the documents that are currently in the public realm that are redacted.
	Let's unredact them with the exception of continuing to protect the victims.
	I don't think the victims' names should be revealed, but I'm in favor of absolute full disclosure.
	This idea that Donald Trump has something to fear or something to hide is complete and total nonsense.
	Yeah, President Trump doesn't have anything that he fears or wants to hide.
	In my conversations with the president about this, it's more about all of the innocent people who would be harmed.
	Because let's be honest, what's the definition of a file?
	This is what I told Politico when they contacted me and they interviewed me about this.
	Technically speaking, and you know this as somebody who has had your home raided by the FBI, when they take everything inside your home, whether it's your cell phone or your bed sheets or your underwear or your photos, whatever it may be, Roger, technically speaking, that's a file, right?
	That's a file.
	And so when they say that Donald Trump is in the Jeffrey Epstein files, well, if Donald Trump knew Jeffrey Epstein, you know, when he knew Jeffrey Epstein, back before the era of cell phones and back before laptops and back before iPads and back before social media, what did people have, right?
	You're old enough to remember this.
	They had little black books.
	They had those little moccasin books and they had little address books and little notepads that they would carry around.
	And a lot of times people had a landline.
	They had a home phone and next to their home phone, they had an address book.
	And the address book was numbered or organized, depending on how they classified or organized their address book by name.
	And so technically speaking, if they raided Jeffrey Epstein's homes and his multiple Properties, which we know they did, and they confiscated all the belongings, and then they leveled his Palm Beach mansion.
	They completely demolished the place, completely tore every aspect of the home down.
	I mean, it's complete rubble, right?
	We know that this has happened.
	Technically speaking, then everything in FBI's possession is a file.
	Everything.
	Everything out of Jeffrey Epstein's home that they took as evidence is a file, including an address book.
	So there's a lot of room for manipulation for them to say, oh, he's in the files.
	What if he had a photo of himself with Donald Trump?
	What if he had a letter from Donald Trump?
	What if he had Donald Trump's name in an address book, right?
	It doesn't have to be sexual in nature.
	It could literally just be an address book, Donald Trump's cell phone, Donald Trump's number, Donald Trump's address, something about Donald Trump.
	It doesn't need to be sexual blackmail.
	And so I wanted to catch your take on this because as somebody who has had their home raided by the FBI, perhaps you can explain to people watching how every single piece of evidence that is confiscated is classified as a file.
	Well, you make a good point.
	The other thing here that I think is crucial is when the president says this is a hoax, what he means is that these sensitive files have been in the possession of the Southern District of New York, which is the most liberal activist jurisdiction in the country, the New York office of the FBI.
	And there's a high probability, as we've already seen, that these records have been salted with fake evidence.
	For example, this total Faghazi birthday card that they suddenly produced at the Wall Street Journal.
	First of all, who types a birthday card?
	Please give me a break.
	It doesn't even sound like Donald Trump.
	It's an obvious plant job.
	So when the president says it's a hoax, he correctly corrected that Joe Biden and Merrick Garland and Christopher Wright have been in control of these documents.
	At this point, there's a high probability that they have been tainted.
	That's what I think he was saying.
	But in a larger sense, what is this?
	It's an effort to distract from a much larger picture, which is to say illegal border crossings are down 98%.
	Revenues from tariffs are reaching records.
	For the first month in June, we have a surplus in the country.
	We just passed the largest tax cut in American history, did away with the tax on tips, did away with the tax on Social Security for 88% of those who receive Social Security benefits.
	We are undergoing the greatest mass deportation of illegal immigrant criminals and gang members in U.S. history.
	We have really begun this enormous quest to enter the golden age.
	Trump is building a model economy.
	He's restoring America's strength.
	We're no longer being taken for granted as the Patsys around the world.
	He made a very tough decision in regards to Iran.
	Look, I come out of the Rand Paul wing of the party.
	I'm anti-war, but the president didn't commit us to an endless foreign war.
	He didn't commit us to boots on the ground.
	He decided to make a surgical strike to take out the nuclear weapons development program of the Iranians and then withdraw.
	Not a single American service person lost their life.
	In the end, he made a tough but correct decision.
	My whole point, I guess, is that once that decision was made, there was no more time for debate among his supporters.
	You have to support the president.
	I did.
	He made the right call.
	Of that, there is no question.
	It amazes me that some continue to pick at this.
	I think that is an error.
	Again, not committing us to endless foreign war, returning to the peace through strength philosophies of Eisenhower, Reagan, Nixon, and Trump, not the endless foreign war neoconism of people like Bill Crystal and George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.
	Absolutely.
	And I think it's important for people to understand that these policies by President Trump do not make him Israel first.
	I've heard a lot of discussion in the media lately and a lot of discussion from people on the right trying to accuse President Trump of being controlled by Netanyahu or being controlled by Israel.
	Since when is protecting America from Iranian proxies in Hamas and Hezbollah doing the interests of another country or doing the bidding of Netanyahu?
	Since when is President Trump making sure that we don't all die in a nuclear holocaust doing the bidding of Netanyahu or doing the bidding of Israel?
	Since when is cracking down on the spread of global Islamic terrorism and making sure that Hamas releases all of the hostages, many of whom are American citizens?
	Since when is that a neocon foreign policy?
	And so before we cut to our commercial break and we're going to continue and keep you for the next segment as well, I wanted to get your thoughts on that because that's an important point is that President Trump is not dragging us into endless foreign wars.
	And yet you have this faction.
	I think it's personally funded by Qatar.
	I think it's funded by Iran to try to disrupt the MAGA base, to try to make people think that President Trump is not his own individual.
	He's not leading the United States as a sovereign nation, but is instead acting as some kind of a puppet for Israel.
	I strongly reject claims like that against the president of the United States.
	I strongly reject any criticism of President Trump that he is Israel first or acting in the interests of a foreign nation.
	And I don't really understand why so many conservatives seem to think that protecting America from Islamic terror threats is Israel first policy.
	What are your thoughts on that?
	Look, I've known Donald Trump for 50 years.
	He doesn't like it when I say that because it makes both of us sound old, but nobody controls Donald Trump.
	He's not handled.
	He's not managed.
	He's not scripted.
	He's very much his own man.
	And he sees everything through the prism of what is best for America.
	And I think you can see that.
	So I think he made a hard but correct decision.
	And I support that decision.
	This narrative that he's controlled by anybody, ask anybody who's worked for him.
	He's controlled by no one.
	He marches to his own drummer.
	It's why people elected him.
	They didn't elect him because he was kind of a homogenized political figure.
	He is genuine.
	He's authentic.
	What you see is what you get.
	And the American people love it.
	He is already going down as among our greatest presidents.
	The idea that anyone controls him, whether a foreign nation or any individual, is just ridiculous.
	Do you think that these efforts to demonize Jews, demonize Israel, and demonize President Trump as a puppet of Israel is being funded by Qatari Muslim Brotherhood money funded by Iran?
	And do you think that it's time for the Trump administration to designate the Muslim Brotherhood as one of the first steps in addressing and countering a lot of this Islamist propaganda and these propaganda campaigns that often become very kinetic and violent in cities across America on the campuses of American colleges and all the campuses of American universities?
	Do you think that this messaging is organic, or do you think it's being funded by Qatar in Iran?
	I don't know the answer, but I do think the Muslim Brotherhood should be designated as a terrorist organization based on everything I have read about them.
	Beyond that, I can't address your questions.
	I don't really know.
	What I do know is that the president ran for president as the peace candidate and that the American people are counting on him to end the war between Russia and Ukraine, which he's trying very hard to do.
	Seems to me that every time he gets one side put together, the other side falls apart.
	So it looked to me early on like Putin would cooperate, then Zelensky would not cooperate.
	Then he got Zelensky to cooperate.
	Now it appears that Putin won't cooperate.
	Testing Donald Trump is an enormous mistake.
	This guy has ice water in his veins.
	He's tough as nails.
	But I also think he's equally committed to peace in the Middle Eastern region.
	He ran as the peace candidate, and I trust him, frankly.
	For those watching right now, we are live on Rumble and X. So please be sure that you repost the live link on rumblerumble.com slash Laura Loomer.
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	Roger, while we're watching, before we continue, where do people follow you on X?
	I know you're also on Substack.
	You also have a show.
	I want to use this opportunity for some cross-promotions so that all of my followers can subscribe to your show, your Substack, and your Rumble channel.
	I appreciate that, Laura.
	So obviously, I'm on X thanks to Elon Musk restoring my free speech rights.
	There I am, Roger J. Stone Jr.
	Now, there are a number of Roger Stones on X who are not me.
	New one popped up today, but the verified account is Roger J. Stone Jr., Roger J. Stone JR.
	Urge you to follow me there.
	You can also go to my website, stonezone.com, stonezone.com.
	There you can read not only curated items, but some of my original content.
	I also have a substack at stonecoldtruth.com.
	You can check that out as well.
	And then I do a daily radio show on 77W ABC, the most powerful AM radio signal in the United States.
	It's also syndicated across the country.
	That's five nights a week at 8 p.m.
	Eastern.
	Go to wabcradio.com, wabcradio.com.
	And then on Sundays from 3 to 5, also at 77W ABC, is the Roger Stone Show.
	So you can get hot and cold running Roger Stone.
	You can find all those links at stonezone.com.
	But I appreciate that, Laura.
	And no, if you're following Roger Stone on Facebook, you're not following me because I'm not on Facebook.
	I'm not in a restaurant recently.
	Same here.
	People say that to me all the time.
	They're like, I'm following you on Facebook.
	I'm like, I'm still banned on Facebook and Instagram.
	What are you talking about?
	Roger and I are dangerous individuals, according to Facebook.
	Should tell the story about what Zuckerberg did to us.
	Yeah, no, it is outrageous.
	I was in a restaurant recently and a guy came up to me and said, hey, Stone, where's that crypto I bought from you on Facebook?
	Dude, I'm not on Facebook.
	There are 20 Roger Stones who are on Facebook.
	None of them is me.
	There are many Roger Stones on X. Fortunately, once you do complain, Elon's people do take them down, but then they just pop up again.
	So you can follow me at TrueSocial at RealRoger Stone.
	That's because somebody has my real name.
	Otherwise, I would have a uniform tag across the board.
	But you can follow me on TrueSocial, which I love at RealRoger Stone or at X at Roger J. Stone Jr.
	Please do because I put up pretty pungent stuff every single day.
	Definitely want to follow Roger.
	All right, I want to play some of these clips and I want to get back into the concept of the tip line, the loyalty tip line.
	And as a political operative and as one of President Trump's longest serving advisors and also probably one of his most trusted friends, I want to have a deeper conversation about the importance of loyalty and why you think it is such a forgotten concept, not just in day-to-day relations between humans, but in politics altogether.
	So let's go ahead and play clip number nine.
	After a decade on the right's furthest fringes, Laura Loomer appears to be leaning into her reputation as President Trump's loyalty enforcer.
	So far, Loomer's taken credit for at least 16 administration dismissals.
	She's recently claimed to meet with Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth as she seeks to root out, quote, anti-Trump staffers inside the Pentagon.
	And there's even a phrase for her ability to pop up wherever and whenever Trump administration officials' careers appear to reach their end.
	It's called getting Loomered.
	Now, Semaphore reports that she's testing the strength of her informal influence and access to Trump to many Republican chagrin.
	Joining us now is politics reporter for Semaphore, Dave Weigel.
	And Dave, Loomer's been largely seen as a fringe voice, at least until more recently.
	So why her rise in influence?
	Because Donald Trump wants her to have influence and because she's very dogged, very hardworking, as she told me, is online basically 20 hours a day and has no social life.
	She has been devoted to defending Donald Trump for many years and defending his ideas from anyone who she thinks is trying to get a free ride for him and get a job from a position that might undermine him.
	And Trump sees his first term as a collection of some lost opportunities because he didn't have a completely loyal staff.
	You see the order for the DOJ to investigate former intelligence officials from the first term.
	She sees herself and Trump sees her as a way to get accountability and expose these people through constant research and public call outs.
	That's the important part of it.
	All the articles she publishes, the very public nature of what she puts out fits right into the conservative media ecosystem.
	Yeah, she trolls people pretty loud and proud.
	How does Loomer choose her targets and who might be next on the list?
	Yes, it's a combination.
	She does, again, a lot of her own work in just looking people's names up, seeing where they came from, seeing what they've written, seeing what they've worked on.
	It's a vast array of heresies or non-mAGA traits people can have to be under her spotlight.
	You saw this at the FDA.
	You saw this, members of the National Security Council.
	She gets tips too.
	She told this to Politica before she talked to us from people who want to expose somebody in the administration.
	The idea being, even though there's a lot of time for this transition, it wasn't rushed.
	People were vetted on the way in.
	There are some people who got jobs because of their credentials and people getting them into the pulling them up into the White House, into the executive branch, didn't notice something that they had said.
	Or this has happened since we were in seven months of this, or they have some heresy, some problem with Trump policy that wasn't obvious until later in the administration.
	So it's very broad.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	No, no, sorry about that.
	North Carolina Republican Senator Tom Tillis has had some choice words for Loomer now that he's taken the gloves off.
	He's called her a callus that appears only when the work's already done.
	So how are Republicans viewing her influence?
	That was a very representative quote.
	Republicans who believe they have earned their role in American public life in the Republican Party resent that somebody who is this young and is this outside D.C. and was, you said, fringe in the introduction, was seen as fringed by Republicans, was chasing Ron DeSantis around and trying to ruin him when he was running for president.
	They resent that she has this influence.
	And her response to Tillis was, he's a loser.
	If he thinks I'm taking easy targets, he's an easy target.
	He has to retire next year because he knew he couldn't win a primary.
	Hard to argue with that.
	Pause it for a second.
	They admit it's hard to argue.
	And I want to issue one correction because Dave Weigel said, trying to ruin Ron DeSantis.
	I'm pretty sure that we succeeded, Roger.
	I'm pretty sure that we tried, but we actually succeeded.
	Yeah, I think we drove him from the presidential race.
	He evidently nurses presidential ambitions again in 2028, which is completely and totally unrealistic.
	Actually, I go so far as to predict that unless he is appointed to an office by President Trump, which I think would be extremely unwise given his track record of disloyalty and his treacherousness, because I think he's a backstabbing ingrate myself.
	I think he's finished in American political life because he bit the hand that fed him.
	I mean, he betrayed the man who made him a national figure.
	He betrayed the man who catapulted him to a statewide office.
	People forget how one-sided this race was.
	I mean, Adam Putnam was not my type of Republican, but Adam Putnam had the support of every Republican county chairman in the state, every Republican in the state house and the state senate, the Speaker of the House, the Senate president, every member of the congressional delegation, with the exception of Matt Gates.
	He was trailing in the polls 53 to Putnam to eight, I think it was, for Ron DeSantis.
	And then one tweet, just one tweeted endorsement catapulted Ron DeSantis to the governorship.
	It was really immediate.
	Not just from her own work, but from her relationship to Donald Trump.
	And if you're a Republican.
	In any event, I think we have made our point here.
	I'm sure that the people at MSNBC, which is kind of a fringe outlet that not many people watch, appreciate the fact that you featured them here tonight.
	Otherwise, there'd be nobody watching.
	Yeah, Leah, we're going to continue through it.
	But you started in politics very young as well.
	And one thing that he said, if you rewind it, just about 30 seconds or so, the clip there, he said that a lot of people resent me because of how young I am.
	Let's play that part again.
	We're a callus that appears only when the work's already done.
	So how are Republicans viewing her influence?
	That was a very representative quote.
	Republicans who believe they have earned their role in American public life in the Republican Party resent that somebody who is this young and is this outside DC and was, you said, fringe in the introduction, was seen as fringed by Republicans, was chasing Ron DeSantis around.
	I mean, they admit it.
	They resent me.
	This has nothing to do with me being crazy.
	It has nothing to do with me being a radical or me being far right or me being a conspiracy theorist.
	It's actually shocking to me that the most honest report thus far about how people view me came from MSNBC and the left.
	They resent me.
	They literally admitted it, Roger.
	And they resent me because I'm young and because I'm ambitious and because I'm dogged and because I'm relentless.
	And that's the reason why they've resented you throughout your entire life is because you were young.
	And even in your early 20s, you were beating seasoned political operatives who are three times as old as you at their own game.
	And there's something to be said about this and the culture of resentment in the GOP.
	It's not exactly a place where people like to build each other up and give each other opportunities and support people who have talent.
	It is a resentful place.
	And that's the reason why I'm not in the White House is because people who work for the president resent me.
	I mean, let's just be honest.
	I want to get your thoughts on that.
	Let me say this.
	Is it possible that Senator Tillis has this level of this lack of self-awareness?
	I mean, he was driven from the U.S. Senate because he opposed the nomination of Ed Martin to be the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia.
	That was the first sign of treachery.
	And then opposing the president on much larger matters.
	This guy's taken to powder because he was beaten.
	So there's no self-awareness reflected in his comments whatsoever.
	Laura, in all honesty, I think you're more effective outside the White House anyway.
	You do your own thing.
	I agree with you about 80% of the time.
	You know when I disagree with you because we talk about it.
	But I think you're much more effective outside the White House.
	No one can doubt your loyalty or your commitment to this president, the hours and the work you put in.
	I will just accept victory and keep moving.
	You need to remain vigilant.
	This report that John Edwards, who seems to me to be a protege of John Brennan, the CIA director, under consideration for the number two position of the national security apparatus.
	This is a very bad idea.
	This is a guy who brags about vacationing with Brennan, who, if you look at his bio, you can see his career was made by Brennan.
	People like this to see.
	He's now denying that, actually, after I reported this report, and you mentioned John Edwards.
	That's another exclusive story that I reported that Roger shared the other day of an individual who worked as the chief technology officer at the CIA under John Brennan during the Obama administration, who was put forth by Tom Rakusen, who is the senior advisor currently for Steve Feinberg, the deputy secretary of defense.
	And my sources have told me that Steve Feinberg is incredibly spooked by my reporting.
	Tom Ratkusen is incredibly spooked.
	And John Edwards is apparently incredibly spooked as well, denies vacationing with John Brennan.
	But the reality is, is that this is the type of stuff that the so-called veterans should be aware of.
	They shouldn't have to rely on somebody like me, an outside force.
	Thank God I exist as this outside force, because what would they do?
	And I'm just saying, seriously, what would they do?
	Because if I'm not the one releasing this information, who's going to release this information?
	I think that we can all agree, Roger, that anybody tied to John Brennan should be nowhere near the White House.
	They should absolutely be nowhere near Donald Trump or within the Trump administration, and they should probably be banned from entering all federal buildings.
	I mean, is that that's something that we can agree on?
	There's no question about it.
	It's kind of hard to understand how John Brennan, an admitted communist who admitted in a government polygraph that he was a member of the Communist Party, that he voted for the Communist Party candidate for president.
	A man who was caught red-handed, basically hacking into the computers of a U.S. Senate committee investigating his illegal use of torture.
	The guy who signed the visas for, I think, four of the Saudis who attacked America on 9-11.
	A guy who clearly, based on the declassified documents shared by both John Radcliffe and Tulsi Gabber, forced the Steele dossier, which he knew was a fraud, which he knew was inaccurate, into the president's intelligence assessment, and then tried to hide it in a footnote so that nobody would see that it was there.
	The truth is, I think Lee Smith, one of the great investigative reporters and authors out there, reported this.
	Obama was waiting for it.
	It was anticipated.
	This was all part of the plan.
	Brennan continues to say on MSNBC as recently this week that the steel dossier may yet be true when there's no truth to it whatsoever.
	When this guy is going to be brought to justice is a mystery to me, but it's very clear to me that he can be pulled before a grand jury.
	It looks to me like Pam Bondi is going to do that.
	Amen for that.
	Are we going to continue to let these people get away with the largest dirty trick in American political history, an abuse of power in which the extraordinary authority of the U.S. government and the incredible capability of our intelligence agencies was utilized, weaponized, using two complete false narratives?
	One, the Steele dossier.
	The other one, not addressed by John Durham, not addressed yet by Tulsi Gabbard or the CIA, but this notion that the Democrat National Committee was the target of an online hack by Russian intelligence, for which there is no proof whatsoever other than the claims of John Brennan, a man who cannot be trusted.
	So I'm ready for justice.
	I'm ready for the prosecution of Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Rice.
	I read the entire list today on 77WABC.
	I think it was half of the show.
	But I read the name of everyone who's involved in this seditious conspiracy and who should be charged.
	Let's not forget Rod Rosenstein.
	Let's not forget Andrew Weissman.
	I mean, there is plenty to go around here, that's for sure.
	Absolutely.
	And to think that there are still individuals who played a role in this conspiracy theory, who participated in this coup, who participated in this hoax on the American people that still have their security clearance, including Palestinian jihadist Maher Batar.
	It's an abomination.
	And I hope that the Trump administration is quick to revoke their security clearances.
	Thoughts on Maher Batar, who is currently serving as Adam Schiff's national security advisor and who played a key role in some of these initial meetings where they facilitated this fake intelligence, the fabricated intelligence reports against President Trump to falsely accuse him of being involved in a conspiracy with Russia to steal the 2016 election.
	Thoughts on Maher Batar, who was the director of national intelligence under Joe Biden, despite being a Palestinian jihadist with ties to Students for Justice in Palestine.
	Thoughts on this treacherous individual still having a security clearance.
	Laura, this, I think, is one of the most important stories that you have broken.
	Look, we had Robert Malley at the Biden State Department.
	This is the greatest spy scandal since Alger Hiss.
	This guy was sharing documents with Iran the entire time.
	And while he was suspended, he still hasn't been prosecuted.
	He should have been.
	He should be.
	He's still roaming around.
	He's not even in jail.
	Like, where is this guy?
	Is he in Iran?
	Is he in the United States?
	Like, how do people like this still roam around?
	And why hasn't the State Department fired every single person who worked with Robert Malley?
	I think a number of his associates, like this woman, Tabutani, I think her name is, she stayed in the city.
	Adrian Tabate.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Just beyond belief.
	This is, as I say, the biggest spy scandal since Alger Hiss proved to be a Russian spy, just as a young Congressman Richard Nixon said he was.
	So it is, it's amazing to me that these people still have security clearances.
	This is why that story is particularly important.
	And this guy goes from the Russian collusion hoax to helping Adam Schiff try to concoct the false narrative about Russian collusion in the 2016 election.
	He works for the House Intelligence Committee when the Democrats are in the majority.
	Now he's working as the chief national security advisor for Senator Adam Schiff, a guy who just got busted in mortgage fraud.
	And before that, before that, he was working at the United Nations under Obama, and he was working in the Obama administration, advising on Israel and Palestine policy.
	Well, why would you want a Palestinian jihadist who is pro-Hamas working on Palestine policy?
	It's pretty obvious.
	You know, Israeli intelligence, I have sources who have told me that Maher Batar is identified as an individual by Israeli intelligence as someone who allowed and helped even facilitate October 7th.
	Did you know that?
	I Did not know that, but clearly he needs to have his security clearance yanked.
	I do want to say a word about Pencil Neck, if I may.
	Adam Schiff says that the president's upset because he owns two homes.
	I think he's missing the point.
	So Adam Schiff claimed that both his condo in Burbank, California, and his home in suburban Maryland were both his principal legal residence.
	Therefore, he got a tax break in both states.
	He got a lower mortgage rate in both states.
	He got a lower insurance rate in both states.
	That is, to be very clear, a felony for which he should be prosecuted.
	The director of the Federal Housing and Finance Agency, Bill Poulti, has sent a criminal referral over to the Justice Department.
	And it remains to be seen now whether Adam Schiff, who should be prosecuted for this, it's the least of his crimes, frankly.
	He should also be prosecuted in the Russian collusion hoax.
	We'll see if he's called before the grand jury.
	He should be, certainly should be.
	Remember, this is a guy who said that he had, quote, seen more than circumstantial evidence of Russian collusion with the Trump campaign.
	He's produced nothing whatsoever.
	Then he comes back with the false claim.
	Oh, well, Trump's campaign manager, Paul Manafort, shared polling information with a Russian intelligence agent.
	Wrong across the board.
	First of all, the Trump campaign had no proprietary polling at the time in question.
	They hadn't gone into the field yet.
	Secondarily, any polling information he saved, shared with this Konstantin Kalimnik would have been public information that anyone could find online.
	And thirdly, as I think Matt Taibbi, the investigative reporter, has proven, Konstantin Klement was not a Russian intelligence asset.
	He was an American intelligence asset.
	So once again, they have nothing whatsoever.
	Adam Schiff is the greatest huckster, the greatest con man, the greatest fraud to ever grace the U.S. Senate.
	Now, it's a contest between Dan Goldman, Jamie Raskin, and Adam Schiff as to who can be more of a congenital liar and fraudster.
	But I still think Pencil Net, watermelon head, whatever you want to call them, still think he leads the pack.
	So essentially, ultimately, long story short, vetting matters.
	All of this comes down to vetting and doing deep dive research into these individuals, identifying all of these networks, identifying how individuals who still have security clearances or who may still be in the Trump administration are people who are tied to the Crossfire Hurricane scandal and tied to this criminal Obama network, how they are still within the administration, gaining access to the administration, identifying these risk factors to prevent them from ever having access to Donald Trump ever again.
	I want to get your take on two more clips before we let you go and take questions from the chat.
	CNN, right, had a panel discussion about loyalty.
	And again, you're a very loyal person.
	I've showed a clip the other night on my show about Donald Trump saying that he's a loyalty freak.
	We can even play the clip and get your reaction to it tonight as well.
	But, you know, a lot of people think they know Trump, but they don't really know Trump.
	And if there's one thing that Donald Trump values above anything else, it's loyalty.
	I think that you could say that from knowing him for 50 years is that if Donald Trump values anything, it's loyalty.
	And so it's shocking to me that news broadcasters are actually having panel discussions about whether or not loyalty is a valuable trait to have in American politics and whether or not the president should be talking to people who express strong loyalty and devotion to him.
	Let's go ahead and play this clip.
	I want to get your reaction.
	Shmorka, I got to ask you, we had some great new reporting from my colleagues at CNN about Laura Loomer, far-right activist, her influence within the Trump administration.
	Loomer says she recently spoke with Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth about her work finding disloyal employees within the Pentagon.
	The Defense Department spokesperson confirms the two spoke.
	She's already succeeded in getting several top Trump officials fired.
	What's your read on all of this?
	Hey, look, I think it's interesting.
	And a lot of voters who are very ardent supporters of the president, they really like what Loomer is doing.
	Even though she's not in an official capacity, they like having someone who can advise the president on finding individuals and removing individuals who may object to his agenda because they want to see that agenda move forward.
	That's why he won not only Electoral College, but also the popular vote.
	And so I think Loomer, as a very loyal supporter of the president, is playing this outsider role of Sam as president.
	And I'm going to make sure that whomever you decide to appoint will be people who have stood with you since day one.
	She's going to get a lot of support from the base.
	And that's why I think the president will continue to stand with her.
	But like, how do you feel about it?
	You know, I'm not bothered by it because if I was the president, I would want somebody to say, sure, Michael, you shouldn't appoint this guy because this guy does not have your best interest.
	Or this guy may have been critical of you in the past.
	I would at least want to say, well, I wasn't aware of that.
	Where do you stand today?
	And how will that be problematic in your role moving forward?
	Is that why you're being nice about now?
	Because you're afraid they'll come after you if you say something, mean?
	I got 100 plus guns out of you.
	I'm not worried about anybody coming to my house.
	I love this group.
	Let's do this for the next 45 minutes.
	Thoughts on that?
	I mean, the screen says, far-right Trump ally Laura Loomer hunts for disloyalty to Trump.
	I mean, why is loyalty such a foreign concept to these people?
	And why do you think they're having such a visceral reaction to the Laura Loomer loyalty tip line?
	Well, Laura, as you know, I don't get my news from CNN.
	For some reason, I don't drink out of the toilet.
	What was going on with that hat that guy was wearing?
	What was that about?
	That was kind of weird.
	I don't know.
	You're going to have to feature him and you're Roger Stone's best and worst dress list.
	He'd definitely be up there in the worst dress list along with Steve Bannon.
	Look, Laura, we could sit here and play clips all day.
	You've gotten some incredible coverage today because you're loyal.
	And I do think you play an important function outside the system where you are free to critique whoever you want.
	I don't always agree with you.
	You know that.
	But I think you would do a great service to the administration by and large.
	And you have an ability to spot people who don't have this administration's best interest at heart, who are not loyal to the president's vision.
	And I know he appreciates that as well.
	If you want to go to questions, we should do that because I have an early morning and I have to work tomorrow.
	Yeah, we'll take a couple of questions.
	If you have questions, put them in the chat.
	Thoughts on the Loomer loyalty tip line.
	So ultimately, Roger, you are in favor of the tip line.
	You think that it's a net positive to the administration and you think that it will have an overwhelmingly positive influence on the administration.
	Well, if it helps fush out people like Mar Bittar, for example, or this other character.
	John Edwards.
	Yeah, it's a perfect example.
	People like that should not be in this administration because they don't share the president's vision.
	So if the tip line helps to elucidate and demonstrate who those people are, I think it plays an important role.
	Yes, absolutely.
	One of the questions in the chat, more of a personal question.
	Mr. Stone, how is your wife doing?
	And how are your two dogs, your babies, doing?
	Mrs. Stone is doing great.
	She's now almost four years cancer-free, thanks to Jesus Christ and prayer and alternative therapies.
	She's doing great.
	She doesn't love politics, as you might imagine, but she's doing terrific.
	And yes, Laura, it's true that while I was in Washington, D.C., somebody tried to poison our dogs.
	We have two Yorkshire Terriers, Mimi and Peewee, after enormous veterinary bills and some time in a veterinary hospital.
	They have both survived, I'm happy to say.
	Still a matter under investigation, so I'm not going to discuss it any further.
	But this shows you how low the left has gotten.
	They can't attack me, so they attack a poor defenseless animal.
	It is really disgusting.
	No, it's really disgusting.
	Let's go to a couple more questions in the chat.
	Roger's got an early morning.
	So chop, chop.
	Let's put our questions in the chat.
	Let's see, scroll up.
	There's a few more.
	Roger, are you planning on writing a script for a movie that exposes dumb politicians?
	People want to know if you're going to make a movie.
	Do you have plans to write a movie?
	Actually, I'm working on two books.
	I'm working on a book on the attempted assassination of President Ronald Reagan because there's never been any official report released by the government.
	But it is an undisputable fact that John Hinckley Jr. was in front of Reagan, crouching and therefore shooting in an upward trajectory.
	Yet Reagan was hit from above and behind, inconsistent with Hinckley being the shooter.
	You're going to have to wait till the book comes out, hopefully by Christmas.
	Secondarily, I'm working on a much more difficult book to write, which is a story of the epic two and a half year struggle I had with the weaponized judicial system where they charge me with lying under oath to Congress about Russian collusion that never actually happened, which is really just an effort to pressure me into testifying falsely against Donald Trump, which I refuse to do.
	This book is not cathartic.
	It's difficult to write because you're forced to relive this incredible nightmare where I had a corrupt and biased, hateful federal judge.
	I had a jury for a woman who lied during jury selection, said she didn't know who I was, knew nothing about my case.
	Yet it turned out that she had been attacking me and Donald Trump by name for 19 months regarding the very case in which she was selected as a juror.
	And when Mike Cernovich is the one who discovered that fact, the judge in the case, Amy Berman Jackson, said that wasn't evidence of bias, refused to throw out my conviction.
	So I'm working on that.
	Many, many people want a sequel to Get Me Roger Stone.
	I think that there is a documentary in the works.
	I'm not going to announce it here, but there is a documentary in the works.
	And right now, Laura, my great function is to do my daily radio show every day at 8 o'clock p.m. Eastern at 77 WABC Radio.
	You can get it once again at wabcradio.com.
	Do you have any plans to sue the federal government?
	I mean, now that all of this has come out and Tulsi Gabbard has declassified these documents that really vindicate you and show the treachery associated with this coup.
	I mean, it's everything that we already knew, but it's officially been declassified.
	And now, you know, that they can no longer brush it aside as a conspiracy theory or a right-wing, you know, a right-wing cry for help.
	I mean, they were very derogatory saying, oh, Roger Stone is just, you know, trying to present himself as a victim because he wants sympathy, because he needs money, because he needs to fundraise, because he's broke, because he's irrelevant.
	I mean, do you plan on suing and getting the damages and getting back what was taken from you?
	Well, the indictment of my indictment is very cleverly kind of structured.
	They admit in Robert Mueller's long-redacted final report, which the judge refused to give to my defense attorneys when they asked for it.
	The judge said she would review the report and give my defense attorneys the relevant sections regarding me.
	Somehow she left out page 178, which even Robert Mueller couldn't sugarcoat the fact that he found no evidence of Russian collusion, Wikileaks collaboration, or any other crime.
	But she didn't give us that.
	They also refused to give us the crowd strikes report.
	The FBI admitted early in the trial that they had never inspected the computer servers of the DNC.
	They relied entirely on this company CrowdStrike.
	Yet the head of CrowdStrike, a man named Sean Henry, who just coincidentally happened to be former deputy of Robert Mueller's at the FBI, testified before the House Intelligence Committee that his report contained no proof whatsoever that the DNC had been hacked by the Russians or anyone else for that matter.
	I wanted to call Bill Binney as a witness, an expert witness at my trial.
	He could have testified as to the download times of the material that was purloined from the DNC.
	He could have given both forensic evidence and expert testimony.
	The judge would, of course, not allow it.
	So I've been through hell and back, but I'm still here.
	I have no intention of going away.
	Yes, I'm grateful to the president for my pardon, but this idea, as Hakeem Jeffrey said, that Stone traded his silence for a pardon.
	Or as the judge said in my sentencing, you have been convicted of covering up for Donald Trump, to which I say, covering up what?
	The Russian collusion?
	There was no Russian collusion, nor was there any WikiLeaks collaboration.
	So I'm not sure that I, that even if I could fashion a lawsuit, if you go to trial in D.C., there's zero chance that you'd get a fair judge or a reasonable jury.
	So I'm looking at it, but I suspect that that is not where justice will ultimately be gotten.
	Justice will be gotten when the people who concocted this entire seditious conspiracy to destroy myself, to destroy General Flynn, to destroy Donald Trump, are prosecuted.
	That will be justice.
	And then beyond that, the president's absolute right.
	The greatest revenge is going to be the success of the country.
	The greatest revenge will be when America thrives, when America is prosperous, when we have unprecedented peace, prosperity, security, and law and order.
	And those days are clearly upon us.
	Absolutely.
	Last question.
	This was a question online that somebody posted.
	I saw this in the comments on the Twitter stream.
	Somebody said, wait, was Laura Loomer really at Roger Stone's house the night of the, or the day of the FBI raid?
	How was she at his house the day of the FBI raid?
	I mean, a lot of people don't really understand how far back our relationship and our friendship goes, but perhaps you can dispel, I guess, the detractors online who are saying that I'm making this up.
	I was with you.
	I was at your house the day of the FBI raid, and I was with you the day that President Trump pardoned you.
	I was with you when he called you to give you the news.
	Both those things are absolutely true.
	As I said earlier, I was arrested at 6.06 in the morning.
	At 6.11, somebody with CNN texted my sealed indictment to my attorney.
	It had no court markings or timestamps on it.
	That's because it was sealed.
	But if you look at the metadata collection, pardon me, the metadata tags, you have the initials of the man who wrote it and therefore the man who illegally linked it, Andrew Weissman.
	So I was arrested at 6.06.
	I went to the FBI Booking Center in handcuffs in Miramar, Florida.
	I then went to the federal courthouse in Fort Lauderdale for arraignment where I pled not guilty.
	They put me in a holding cell with four African Americans.
	I patiently explained the 1994 crime bill to them and why they had to be opposed to Joe Biden and Bill Clinton.
	They were chanting Roger Stone did nothing wrong by the time I went to the courthouse or the courtroom to be arraigned.
	And then I returned home and who should visit me at my home but Laura Loomer.
	So she was most definitely with me.
	There was a demonstration outside my house of support where I had many of my friends and neighbors and supporters.
	And then I bullhorned CNN away from your house.
	I got in their face during their live broadcast outside your home when they were harassing you and your wife.
	And I got in their face so loud and so aggressively that it forced them to leave.
	Yeah, I don't recommend it to people.
	It was an interesting experience overall.
	All right, Laura, you can say I'm losing my voice.
	Well, Roger, thank you so much for coming on.
	It's a pleasure always having you on.
	One of my longest standing friends, one of my best friends, and one of my mentors, known you, and I trust you more than most people in this industry.
	So I really appreciate you taking almost two hours of your night tonight to come on my program.
	But you always have been my favorite guest.
	You were the very first guest to ever come on Loomer Unleashed, if you recall, the very first ever guest of my program.
	And so it's always a pleasure and always very special for me to have you on the program again because it's important for people to understand how important you are to me and how much I care about you.
	I appreciate that, Laura.
	Never give up and always keep fighting.
	God bless you.
	Thanks, Roger.
	Wonderful.
	There you have it.
	Legendary political icon, Roger Stone.
	Great guy.
	One of my best friends.
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	And so I have to go to a wedding, actually.
	I have to go to a wedding.
	So I'll be gone for a couple of days.
	I'm going to a wedding and then I'm taking a much needed break.
	When I say break, I mean I'm not going to be doing my show for a couple of days, but I kind of need to just chill out for a few days.
	So I'm taking a little mini vacation while I go to a wedding.
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	We'll take a couple comments in the chat.
	I will be posting written reports while I'm on my vacation.
	So you can follow my website and follow my exit account.
	It's not like I'm completely disappearing.
	I'm just not going to be doing my show for about a week or so.
	I do need to go to a wedding.
	It's pretty far away.
	Gonna have a great time.
	Very excited to get away for a little bit.
	But I will still be breaking stories and posting news reports, breaking exclusive news reports on my website and on my X account.
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	I figured that while Congress is on a recess, it's the perfect time to take a few days while I go to this wedding because, well, we'd usually be up on Capitol Hill confronting members of Congress, but they're not there anyway.
	So it is what it is.
	Let's see.
	How can you be friends with Stone and Bannon when there is so much friction between them?
	Well, it's an interesting dynamic, but it is what it is.
	Not everybody in this industry is going to get along.
	Tucker's friends with Roger.
	Roger's friends with Tucker.
	I'm not friends with Tucker.
	I don't like Tucker Carlson.
	So like I said, Roger and I don't agree on everything.
	And Roger made that very clear tonight during the interview that we're not afraid to let each other know when we think that one of us is wrong.
	I'll call Roger or he'll call me or sometimes he'll sub-tweet me online.
	But that's our relationship.
	And, you know, it is what it is.
	Not everybody gets along, but Roger and I are friends.
	And at the end of the day, he may not like certain people that I like and I may not like certain people who he likes, but I still love him and I care about him.
	And Roger's like family to me.
	You know, his wife and I are friends.
	You know, I was very close with her when she was going through her cancer treatment.
	I was with Roger the night that or the day that the FBI raided his home.
	I was with him in the room when President Trump called him and pardoned him.
	We're very close friends and we've been very close friends for a long time.
	I've spent holidays with him.
	So, you know, you can be friends with people who don't get along with each other.
	Thank you.
	Let's see.
	Someone said, that's crazy.
	I didn't know that you were there when he was raided.
	Yep.
	There's a lot of things that people don't know about me and they want to say, oh, well, how does Laura have the political influence that she has?
	Well, if they took a moment to actually understand my background and who I know and who I'm friends with, then maybe they would know somebody said, You look pretty tonight.
	Thank you.
	I think it's because I got a little bit of a tan.
	So usually I look a little pale, but see.
	Have fun in Israel, Laura.
	Be safe.
	I'm not going to Israel.
	I won't say where I'm going, but I'm not going to Israel.
	For security reasons, I don't tell people where I'm going anymore.
	I get too many death threats.
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	Just going to take a few days, enjoy the wedding.
	Alrighty.
	With that, thank you so much for tuning into tonight's episode of Loomer Unleashed.
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