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	There is a young, Conservative journalist by the name of Laura Loomer.
	If America's men acted like Laura Loomer, our problems would be fixed in about five minutes.
	She chained herself to Twitter.
	She chained her...
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	And welcome to episode 124 of Loomer Unleashed.
	I'm your host, Laura Loomer.
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	A lot of conservatives like to go along and play the game, right?
	So they can get invited to all the parties.
	And play nice in the sandbox, as they say.
	But we speak the truth here at Loomer Unleashed.
	And it's all thanks to you, our viewers who help us stay independent.
	I'm also live on X, so please be sure that you retweet the live stream.
	We stream every Tuesday and Thursday live on X and Rumble.
	Also be sure you're following me on X at Laura Loomer and Loomer Unleashed.
	We have three guests tonight, so stay tuned.
	It's going to be a...
	We have a lot to talk about.
	The second hour of the show, for all my animal lovers out there, is going to be dedicated to all of the amazing legislation that is being passed right now here in the state of Florida, where I live, and also all of the efforts that are being carried out by the Trump administration to crack down on animal testing.
	We're going to be joined by our friends at White Coat Waste and also by my friend, Florida State Representative.
	Meg Weinberger, who's going to talk about her animal cruelty law that Ron DeSantis just signed into law.
	And then we're also going to be joined by our friends over at BitChute who are going to talk to us about the draconian efforts in the UK, which will undoubtedly make their way here to the United States unless we start cracking down on big tech censorship and censorious regimes and foreigners who want to censor the rights, especially the
	And BitChute is refusing to do that.
	And so we're going to hear from them tonight.
	But I want to get started on an update to what we were talking about on Tuesday's show.
	And that, of course, President Trump has decided to ban Harvard.
	From enrolling foreign students, he also defunded them on the federal level.
	And when the State Department and President Trump released statements about why they were going after the foreign students at Harvard, which makes up 31% of the Harvard admissions rate, if you didn't see President Trump's speech about this from the Oval Office, it's an astounding 31% of Harvard students are international, right?
	Foreign visa holding students.
	Pretty crazy.
	That's 31% of their student body that could otherwise be American, but American students are being denied these opportunities so that hostile foreigners from China, a lot of whom are CCP spies or Islamic jihadists or people who hold anti-American sentiment, are studying at Harvard.
	President Trump and the State Department announced that Under his administration, the visas of Chinese students who have affiliations with the CCP, and let's be honest, it's pretty much all of them, over 250,000 current visa holders from China studying here at universities and colleges across our country.
	We have some reports on this.
	U.S. to begin revoking visas for Chinese students.
	I've been calling for this for a long time.
	I mean, you know, here at Loomer Unleashed, we're pretty anti-China.
	We're pretty anti-CCP.
	And it's been a long time coming, right?
	Over 250,000 Chinese students.
	That's incredible.
	Quarter of a million student visa holders studying in universities across our country.
	Let's scroll down and take a look at this article and we can review the details in case you missed it.
	The U.S. will begin revoking visas for Chinese students, Secretary of State Mark Rubio announced on Wednesday.
	The big picture, the move marks a major escalation in the Trump administration's immigration crackdown and comes one day after Rubio directed a halt to student visa interviews.
	One senior Trump administration official confirmed to Axios that the order applies to all students from China, noting that Rubio's announcement coincides with trade negotiations between the two countries.
	Everything is connected.
	This is fabulous because, let's be honest, who is sending their children to study here in the United States of America from China?
	Well, CCP officials.
	It's pretty crazy to think that we're in the middle of a trade war with China and they're being incredibly hostile towards the Trump administration as it relates to the ongoing trade war.
	They are incredibly hostile as it relates to trade secrets.
	You know, stealing information, hacking into government officials' devices, their phones.
	I mean, this is ongoing, right?
	And it exceeds all the way to the White House as well.
	When I talk about the level of hacking, I'm talking about Chinese officials earlier in the year hacked the personal devices, the computers and the phones of Janet Yellen, you'll recall.
	We can get that article up.
	It's several months old, right?
	But they even tried to hack White House officials.
	And there's been countless reports about this, and a lot of this information hasn't been released to the public.
	But it is well known that the Chinese Communist Party and the government of China is actively, I would say, on a pretty constant basis, trying to hack our databases, disrupt our infrastructure.
	And dominate our technological spaces.
	Brainwash our youth.
	Look what they're doing with TikTok, right?
	Chinese hackers access Yellen's computer and U.S. Treasury breach.
	Bloomberg News reports.
	This is ongoing.
	The FBI actually has an entire division dedicated to cyber hacks from foreign actors.
	And guess which countries are the most active as it relates to hacking U.S. devices?
	The Iranians and the Chinese, right?
	You could ask anybody who works at the FBI.
	The Iranians and the Chinese are constantly trying to hack the devices.
	You have to ask yourself, what is the point of allowing for a quarter of a million students every single year from China to study here in our country in elite institutions, taking up spots in colleges and universities where American students are now not being able to access those universities or those colleges because, well, a foreigner or a student from China is taking their spot.
	Why are we allowing them to come and study in our elite institutions and get degrees and learn things in our scientific laboratories in many of these very elite institutions like Harvard, Columbia, Yale, MIT, and so on?
	If they're just going to go back to China and utilize the information that they learned here in the United States of America to support the CCP or to support Islamic regimes or to work against the interests of the United States of America?
	This is an asinine policy to continue to allow these people to invade our country and invade our educational institutions that are now essentially communist Marxist indoctrination camps.
	Is it any wonder that colleges and universities all throughout our country are indoctrinating young people to become communists when you have 250,000 young people, young students from China, right, where You have to have devotion to the CCP in China.
	You want to do business in China.
	You have to support the CCP.
	Do you really honestly think that when these people come to our country that they're going to lose their allegiance to the CCP?
	No, they're going to take that allegiance with them.
	And that is why we have been completely infiltrated and completely encapsulated in this nation by what they call the fifth column.
	And so if you're not familiar with the fifth column, you need to read up on that.
	We have...
	CCP spokeswoman decided to post a video on X. She's not too happy about this.
	Let's go ahead and play this video before we bring our guests in.
	This is the spokesperson for the Chinese Communist Party.
	She's the one who releases all these statements.
	Her name is Lin Jian.
	She releases all of the virtual statements and social media posts on X and Facebook and Instagram.
	And she's very active on social media where she attacks President Trump and his policies on a daily basis.
	Let's go ahead and play the clip.
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	You have to have this allegiance to the CCP.
	And so it's pretty safe to assume that You know, if you're here on a student visa from China, you are acting as an agent of the CCP.
	Let's go ahead and play clip number seven.
	And this should shock no one.
	So the report came out.
	It said, right now, in the United States of America, at one of our universities, there is an organized, orchestrated spy ring.
	To put this in perspective, when I got here, I said, when I was told that there was a Chinese law in place that required Chinese nationals, including students that come to the United States on visas, and by the way, we take 300,000 Chinese students a year into our universities, there's a law in the books that says they have to provide intelligence gathering and information to the CCP.
	We also had information in Congress before I even got here that they were setting up these programs to organize spies and push them into our universities using visas.
	And when I got here and realized that there was no law stopping the visa program, even though we had that information, I immediately launched a bill that would end visas for Chinese students.
	Now, nothing against Chinese students that want to learn.
	But if you have a government that is enlisting them, and not just enlisting them, requiring them by law.
	Under penalty to be espionage agents when they get here, we cannot keep inviting them into our nation.
	And so time after time over the last few years, we have found Chinese students with drones, cameras on our military bases, stealing information at our universities, and nothing has been done.
	So when this report came out two days ago, I was, Now, hopefully, we will see some action not only by the university that's been informed of this, where there's students saying it's happening, but by the government to do an investigation.
	A lot more people should be talking about this.
	And one of the people who's extremely outraged over the fact that President Trump has revoked these visas from Chinese students is the president of Harvard.
	And of course, the president of Harvard is reacting in this manner because, well, President Trump not only defunded Harvard on the federal level, but he banned them from enrolling all foreign students, let alone Chinese students.
	And so we have this clip from the Harvard president.
	And a lot of people don't know this.
	It's something that I've been really blowing the whistle on.
	Xi Jinping, right?
	The leader of the Communist Party of China.
	His daughter actually went to Harvard.
	And Loomer Unleashed has discovered that his daughter still actually lives in Massachusetts with her husband, where she is actively protected by PLA.
	Officers, right?
	People's Liberation Army officers, the military branch of the Chinese Communist Party.
	So the fact that they're able to have their own communist police force here on U.S. soil protecting the daughter of Xi Jinping, who attended Harvard, and now Harvard wants to criticize Trump for revoking Chinese visas, well, you know, it's part of the problem, right?
	Why did Harvard even allow for Xi Jinping's daughter?
	In what world are we in a...
	That's why I personally called for her deportation.
	The story's gone viral.
	It's all over Newsmax.
	Before we bring our next guest in, we're just going to play this clip of Harvard president calling, well, criticizing President Trump for revoking Chinese visas.
	Spanning literature and art, labor and gender, dynamic in devotion to building community, she sees that making waves can help raise the tide.
	Elaine H. Kim, Doctor of Laws.
	Thank you.
	Well, it appears that part of that clip may have been cut off.
	We're going to play the rest of the clip for you later.
	But it was a whole clip about the Harvard president criticizing President Trump for revoking these Chinese student visas.
	So perhaps that got mixed up when we were doing all the prep for the show earlier.
	But there's a longer clip of the president of Harvard criticizing President Trump for revoking these Chinese visas.
	And ultimately, Harvard needs to exercise some personal accountability.
	As we showed you on the show on Tuesday night, Harvard has been involved in many scandals involving the CCP, including one of their own lab employees who was indicted by the DOJ and was secretly getting paid $50,000 a month to share secrets with the Chinese Communist Party.
	So, Harvard cannot pretend to be oblivious to this.
	They allow for Xi Jinping's daughter to attend university classes there, and they also have had some of their own staff and students indicted for acting as agents of the CCP.
	Pretty, pretty serious situation.
	It's not just Harvard.
	Harvard is probably the most glaring example, right?
	Because they are known as the most elite institution in our country.
	But every single college or university in our country has problems with their international students.
	I mean, we've seen this all across our country, especially with the rise of the anti-Semitic pro-Palestinian movement.
	We saw it at Columbia.
	We've seen it at state colleges, community colleges.
	It doesn't matter.
	The Ivy Leagues, of course, get the most attention because it's been sensationalized.
	Rightfully so, by members of Congress because we send the Ivy League billions of dollars of our taxpayer money every single year.
	But whether it's Muslim jihadi students chanting, kill all Jews, long live Hamas, as we documented on the campus of Columbia, or it's CCP spies operating out of the science labs at Harvard.
	You know, the daughter of the leader of the Chinese Communist Party attending classes at Harvard.
	This is a systemic problem that really has been happening for decades in our country.
	And President Trump is the only one who has the courage to address it and the only president that has the courage to put a stop to it.
	And so we thank President Trump for that.
	All right.
	Joining me now to discuss the Online Safety Act and the continued suppression of free speech and the censorship regime that is being carried out in Europe, especially in the United Kingdom, is Jeffrey Wernick, longtime friend of mine, but also a diehard free speech advocate, probably one of the biggest fighters in our country, one of the biggest financial backers of free speech platforms and free speech advocacy.
	He's also a private investor for BitChute, which is one of the only, in addition to Rumble, of course, true free speech platforms out there.
	So, Jeffrey, it's great to have you on the program tonight.
	Thanks so much for joining me.
	Hi, Laura.
	It's really nice to see you again.
	I think many people don't know that you and I have a relationship dating back maybe seven, eight years.
	Yeah.
	I've known you for a long time and you've always been true to the cause.
	You know, you're a very humble guy, I will say.
	Your name's not out there in the media every single day, but for those of you who aren't familiar with Jeffrey, he's one of the biggest supporters and biggest backers and really one of the biggest defenders of free speech and a lot of your favorite platforms that many of you use.
	Especially Parler.
	Unfortunately, Parler was completely destroyed in the aftermath of J6.
	But when Big Tech was beginning their censorship regime and their crusade to silence and deplatform conservatives and Trump supporters, Jeffrey was one of the main financial supporters and investors in a lot of this technology to support free speech platforms.
	He supported my congressional campaign when I was the first and only deplatformed candidate running for Congress in the nation.
	And he has continued to invest his own personal money and wealth into fighting for the free speech rights of all of you watching, right?
	So that you can fight back against big tech censorship.
	So thank you, Jeffrey.
	Thank you for those kind words.
	And yes, I think for people who don't know who I am, which is probably almost everybody watching, you know, and I don't recall if you were the one that facilitated the initial contact with Andrew Torbett, Gab.
	But, you know, I began communications in 2019 with both Andrew Torber at GAB and John Mates at Parler.
	And you and I had a lot of conversations regarding your efforts to help both Gab and Parler grow.
	And at the point in time when I first got involved, You were the most influential person on Parler.
	And there was nobody more committed to helping Parler grow than you in the beginning of 2020, when nobody was paying attention to Parler.
	You were one of the few people that were paying attention to Parler and really put a lot of time and effort.
	And you were always accessible to communicate with and share ideas of what we can do to help together have Parler grow.
	I funded GAB, which I'm pretty sure, again, the introduction was from you.
	And at that point in time, Torber came to me saying that he needed money for independent servers and also to bring in some engineers that wanted to see a stronger balance sheet.
	So I don't remember.
	I think I gave about $600,000.
	Whatever he asked for is what I gave, and I didn't even do any.
	Really significant due diligence, except to the extent to see his commitment to free speech.
	So it's not like I did a lot of business due diligence.
	And the same with Parler.
	My investment was not a financial investment, you know, even though I gave money, but I was investing in a movement to the people who at that point in time seemed the most committed to, you know, free speech absolutism.
	So I gave money at almost the same time to Paula and Gab, and the people at Gab knew I gave to Paula, and the people at Paula knew I gave to Gab, so this was very, very transparent.
	And when I got involved, Gab was really not very interested in my mentorship, just my money.
	and Parler, you know, encouraged my involvement, and that's why you and I had a lot of conversations.
	And basically, I chose to disassociate myself with Parler in 2021 when Parler made the decision to try and appease Apple.
	I had no interest in appeasing Apple because I was not going to relinquish my principles with respect to free speech, and I was not prepared to accept the type of I could understand why Parler made the decision to do that.
	It was a business decision, and they thought it was in the best interest of the business, but I was always more interested in the movement than the business, so I was not as interested in the business, so I wasn't as interested in staying around.
	And then because of...
	I guess whatever limited reputation I achieved through my involvement and engagement in Parler, the people in Bitshoot, when they needed money, reached out to me and I introduced them to a few friends, and we all put money into Bitshoot.
	And you've always been a great help, and you are, I think, with respect to You say what you mean and you mean what you say.
	I know we've had a lot of conversations about some of the people that I used to call free speech frauds, which I think are most of the free speech advocates, I think, are free speech frauds.
	And I also have high regard for Chris at Rumble, actually.
	Chris and I are partners in a business, the parallel economy payment processing.
	Yeah, Chris loves you.
	I remember when I told him, I said, oh, you know, I brought your name up one day.
	I was like, you know Jeffrey Wernick?
	And he was like, oh my God, you know Jeffrey Wernick?
	So yeah, Chris is great.
	He's doing fabulous work.
	And Chris is also very committed and is somebody who's not backing down.
	And I know that he could have had a lot.
	A lot easier time, right, with the business of Rumble had he made concessions, but he has really fought the good fight and has been ostracized in some social circles.
	I know Chris and I talk about this often, but it's because he really is a true free speech absolutist.
	Rumble, along with Bitchu, and now, I guess, X, well, hasn't always been the case, right?
	Especially after I pissed Elon Musk off.
	It's really the only sites that people can find me on because I still remain banned on every other site.
	I mean, you're not going to find me on Facebook and I don't use YouTube because they completely silenced me and have demonetized me.
	And so Bitch Shoot Rumble is really the only two true free speech absolutist platforms.
	And then, of course, X has made a lot of headway.
	Being more committed to free speech, but you will definitely not find a greater level of free speech than what you will find on BitChute and Rumble.
	Yes.
	I have a lot of respect for Chris, and he's been a great partner in the parallel economy.
	So it's great to be partners with him, and I have, you know, really tremendous respect for Chris and really much congratulations to him for all that he's accomplished at Rumble.
	But I appreciate you giving me this time, you know, to talk about the Online Safety Act.
	Many people watching might be saying, "Why am I talking to an American audience about the suppression of free speech in the UK?" The reason is pretty simple.
	BitChute made a decision, you know, at my urging but ultimately supported by all the partners that when the Online Safety Act began to be implemented, you know, when we got notifications at BitChute and that notification was shared with me, that I felt that the regime of surveillance and suppression of free speech.
	was a regime that I told Bitchute that we should not be a part of, you know, and we had a discussion that really was not a long discussion because we reached a consensus pretty quickly that that may be the best way to fight back against these laws.
	And, you know, and I have great respect for the speech that, you know, J.D. Vance gave in Germany where he talked about how European nations
	And freedom of speech and freedom of reach.
	And so the administration is also trying to take its stand and trying to negotiate it as part of the trade negotiations.
	But ultimately, I think in a sovereign country made up of sovereign individuals, ultimately the power resides.
	Within the people, and I think it's a matter of that we shouldn't wait for government to do things, even if the government wants to do the right thing.
	You know, sometimes we have to take things in our own hands, and the decision we made at BitChute was after examining the law, we decided that the best way to respond to the law is we shut BitChute off for the UK audience.
	But for viewing content, because if we accepted the regime, then I view us as being a collaborator or an enabler of the regime.
	At some point, you have to take a stand and say, I'm not going to do this because even though BitChute was founded by two UK nationals and has a large UK audience, so I think we might have lost.
	Can you explain to some people?
	Because I know that J.D. Vance highlighted this when he gave his speech in front of European Union officials and he really condemned them heavily.
	It was like watching a parent give a child a spanking.
	Kind of spanked them on the global stage over their actions to censor speech.
	But can you just explain to people some of the draconian aspects of the Online Safety Act?
	Because, of course, it's always a game of semantics where they try to say things like, oh, we're doing this to protect children from harmful online content.
	So that your average person thinks, well, of course we want to protect children from harm, right?
	But it's a lot more sinister than that because when they talk about protecting children from harm, right, this also extends to adults.
	And this isn't just about, you know, hiding pornographic content or things like that.
	No, they're talking about hate speech and what they perceive as hateful conduct.
	And we know that if you misgender somebody in the UK, you can actually be fined and sent to prison.
	And if you say something offensive about somebody's religion or their ethnic community, background in the UK, you can also spend time in prison.
	We just saw Tommy Robinson get released from prison in the UK two days ago for making a documentary about a Syrian Muslim migrant who was involved in a bullying scandal in the UK.
	And so whether you're a journalist like Tommy Robinson is, I've seen stories about young mothers who had to go to jail because they accidentally misgendered someone and then child protective services took their children from them.
	You really have a very draconian speech system that is governed by the UK government and there So two things.
	I want you to explain what the Online Safety Act is doing in a censorious manner, and then also what the role of Ofcom is and what their actions toward BitChute.
	Ofcom is responsible for implementing the Online Safety Act.
	And the Online Safety Act basically, as quite often, you know, Parliamentary or legislative bodies do, you know, they say, they write something.
	I mean, you think about, like, in the U.S., what was the Obamacare was known as the Affordable Care Act.
	You know, only health care became less affordable, you know, and less accessible, but they still call it the Affordable Care Act.
	So I think politicians always do a good job of naming things that don't really represent what the bills actually accomplish, but they put a...
	they try and put lipstick on a pig by putting a nice name on it you know but the online safety act is basically
	The part about with respect to minors was irrelevant to BitChute because I think the minimum age for downloading and interacting with BitChute is 16-year-old, so it's not like there are minors on and BitChute bans pornography.
	We didn't exit because we were concerned about those aspects.
	But because we know that the Online Safety Act, while that's the name, it wants to keep the ruling class safe from criticism.
	The ones who want to be protected are them, not the people.
	So they want to protect themselves from any sort of narrative.
	That represents a threat to, you know, the narrative that they want to dominate, you know, and like we experienced during the COVID period, you know, when people got banned for, you know, that medicine was Fauci, and if you were not Fauci, then you were a fake scientist, and you were not allowed to post content, and, you know, you were called all sorts of horrible names, deplatformed, demonetized, and, you know, we did that under a state emergency.
	Think about how the type of banning that was going on and censorship that was going on during the COVID period by platforms.
	the Online Safety Act takes that and puts it on steroids and implements it the whole time.
	So basically it gives And if you don't remove content that they think is inappropriate, you know, that they will then impose very large fines on you.
	So we did not exit at BitChute because we were concerned about the fines.
	We just don't want to cooperate with the government.
	We think the only way to and then suddenly they're banning thousands of people, you know, because they're testing.
	If I can get away with this, let me see, let me check the boundary and see what more I can get away with, and let me check the boundary.
	And you and I had a lot of conversations about that, is that the people who didn't defend you when you were banned might find one day that they're banned and they're not going to be happy about them being banned while they remain silent when you were banned, which is why it's so important.
	Once one person is banned, it's so important to speak out because it shouldn't be about whether we like or dislike that person.
	What we should dislike is the concept of banning people because they say something that's offensive.
	The whole reason we have a free speech is the fact is that We need to protect the speech that actually is offensive because if not, we wouldn't need an amendment regarding free speech, you know, to protect speech that people like listening to.
	So what we need to protect, what needs most protection, is the speech we don't like.
	So that's what needs protection.
	So that's the whole point of free speech is to challenge us to accept things that make us feel uncomfortable.
	And the Online Safety Act empowers Ofcom to remove all content, you know, that will make...
	Have you had any conversations with the State Department about how their new statement that they released two days ago regarding their new plan to revoke the visas or block the travel of foreigners to the United States of America who censor Americans?
	I don't know if you saw this, but this was a new policy implemented by the State Department.
	Perhaps, you know, the State Department could issue letters targeting the representatives of Ofcom, right, or the creators of the Online Safety Act to let them know that if they continue this censorious behavior, that they are also not going to be able to travel to the United States because BitChute, as you said, as a large UK audience, but you have people all over the world that utilize BitChute, including American citizens.
	And so I would think that that would fall under the...
	But we had, what we've done at BitChute is we're allowing anyone to put up content from the UK, but whatever content they put up can be seen everywhere except the UK.
	Right, but in your conversations with...
	I think my skepticism of it, one is I'm apolitical.
	So I like to take responsibility myself rather than ask other people to solve my problems.
	So I'm not big in, I don't want government solving my problems.
	I want to solve my own problems.
	So, you know, since I'm, as you're aware, I have anarchistic tendencies.
	You know, I'm an anarcho-capitalist or a crypto-anarchist, since you know I've been.
	I've been a long-time holder of Bitcoin.
	I'm a hodler.
	You know, I'm an accumulator on a high level of Bitcoin.
	And so I believe in a limited...
	So I generally like to solve my own problems rather than solicit government's help because I think that's what it means to be a sovereign individual, is you don't make your problem other people's problems.
	So, and I see it hard to implement.
	You know, independent of that, you know, I also see it hard to implement.
	I think it's nice intentions, but, you know, ultimately, you know, this legislation gets authorized by the prime minister.
	So it gets voted on by the Parliament.
	You can't blame the bureaucrats who are responsible for implementing legislation that the law requires them to implement.
	You know, their job is to implement what they're told they're implemented, you know, and that's their job.
	So, you know, it's the same perception that, you know, the Trump administration expects or any administration expense from, you know, their quote, bureaucracy is Their job is to execute.
	So Ofcom is there to execute.
	Of course, Ofcom has been given extraordinary powers with respect to the discretion they have on how they execute it.
	But ultimately, who conveyed that power to them was the British Parliament and the British Prime Minister.
	So who are you going to hold responsible for?
	Are you going to hold the British Prime Minister responsible?
	And not allow the British Prime Minister to come to, you know, the U.S. while you're trying to negotiate a trade deal.
	I mean, I don't think it's, you know, who's known also for looking to ban a lot of content, you know, is Modi in India.
	Is Rubio going to ban Modi from coming to the United States?
	So I see the implementation very hard because you really can't blame the bureaucrat who's doing what they're instructed to do.
	And if they don't do it, they'll get fired and somebody else will come and replace them to do it.
	So the question is, who should be held responsible for it?
	What I'm calling for is that every other platform should do what BitChute did, is boycott the UK.
	So that's what I'm here on your show, and I'm so appreciative of you giving me this opportunity, but I'm calling on Chris, on Elon Musk, and Mark Zuckerberg, and every other platform out there to boycott the UK.
	I believe if everyone took the same stand as We're not going to be a collaborator with you.
	We're not going to be an enabler of this law.
	Instead, we're exiting the market.
	If every one of these platforms exited the market, I think the UK people would be so upset at having no access to Twitter, no access to Rumble, no access to True Social.
	Have you had any conversations with anybody from, well, I mean, you know Chris, obviously, you're friends with Chris, but have you had any conversations with Rumble or any Truth Social executives or anybody from X to discuss a coordinated boycott?
	I'm hoping that they will watch the show tonight and they'll think it's a good idea.
	We'll clip it.
	We're going to clip it and we'll tag Elon, we'll tag Chris and we'll get it to everybody over at True Social too.
	That's the appeal I want to make is for all the platforms.
	We need to stop this, okay?
	If we really believe in free speech, the question is what are we willing to sacrifice to support free speech?
	Now, has this cost, you know, BitChute money to sacrifice its, you know, user engagement by having people who are actively engaged, no longer actively engaged?
	Yes, we have.
	Does that bother us?
	We really know because we think we're fighting, you know, a good principled fight and so we didn't make a business decision.
	We made a principled decision because we have to put a stop to these regimes and the only way to stop the regimes, in my opinion, is to boycott them.
	You have to take responsibility yourself.
	If the problem is important to you, you don't wait for somebody else to solve the problem.
	You take responsibility yourself.
	Of course, if help wants to come along, it's welcome, you know, so to the extent that anyone who wants to help in this process, they're more than welcome.
	So if, you know, everything that the Trump administration is attempting to do, you know, to have voices not silenced, you know, I support and I respect and I appreciate, but I'm not deferring to them or any other third party.
	I'm not delegating to any third party to fight.
	I'm taking the fight on myself and I'm appealing to other people to join in that fight with me.
	We should boycott the UK and we should boycott every regime that attempts to do.
	As long as we don't act, you know, if we act together, okay, every platform acts together, okay, we can beat these laws.
	But if we don't act together, the laws will beat us.
	I agree with you.
	We have a video here, too, from the founder and the CEO of BitChute, Ray Vahey, talking about Ofcom and the decision of BitChute to boycott the UK.
	So I want to go ahead and play this for everybody.
	Ofcom continues to contact us about their censorship and surveillance regulation in what we see as a blatant effort to make us compromise our principles, which we will never do.
	Our reply to Ofcom is linked below this video.
	They have come up with what we believe is an absurd and ridiculous definition of user-to-user platform, seemingly looking to bring whoever they choose into their regime and make every platform subject to it.
	Let me be clear.
	We will not allow Ofcom any pretext, no matter how absurd, to subject us to their regime.
	We believe no one should.
	This regime is so hostile to free speech and privacy that every platform should leave the UK, not only to protect UK users, but to protect users worldwide.
	BitChute has operated in the UK for years, but now the only moral solution is to leave.
	This is a choice between freedom and totalitarianism.
	Continuing to operate under Ofcom and the OSA can only bring us closer to the latter.
	Tell other platforms, do not be an enabler.
	Do not be a collaborator.
	By remaining in the UK, they are subjecting you, their users all around the world, to this censorship and surveillance.
	If enough platforms leave, the UK government will have no choice but to back down.
	Thank you to everyone who has supported us.
	We won't give in.
	We are committed to upholding free speech and privacy.
	Help us spread this message.
	And I just retweeted that video.
	So for all of you who are watching this stream live right now, help them spread their message.
	You can also retweet that video.
	You can also get a BitChute account.
	I have a BitChute account.
	I feel like there's anything you can really do to get banned on Bitchute.
	I mean, really, truly, if you want to have a free speech platform, Bitchute is a platform for you.
	Of course, Rumble is also a very pro-free speech platform.
	But in terms of true free speech absolutism, as I said, Bitchute and Rumble are really the only two free speech absolutist platforms out there.
	I think that.
	I'm grateful that I have my X platform again.
	But given my own experiences on X, especially over the last few months when everybody saw me very publicly get demonetized and shadow banned for simply criticizing Elon Musk, I would not say that X is a true free speech absolutist platform.
	I think that Elon has made great strides in exposing the Twitter files and giving a lot of people who were previously banned access to their accounts again.
	Comply with a lot of rules, especially to appease advertisers, and that's not the definition of free speech absolutism.
	Now, he has a business to run, and that's his choice.
	That's not necessarily a criticism.
	That's just a fact.
	And so, as it relates to true free speech absolutism, Rumble and Bitchute are your best options.
	Jeffrey, any last words?
	Any last comments?
	What's your call to action to the viewers?
	We have about 45,000 live viewers right now who are watching who can take action.
	I know a lot of people who follow me live in the UK, live abroad.
	What is your parting words for people watching and how they can encourage their lawmakers to speak out against this?
	I would encourage everyone to get VPNs so they can take more control over their privacy and make it harder for governments to figure out where they're domiciled.
	And through VPNs, they could have greater freedom of access to platforms because they can mask their locations.
	So I encourage everybody to take as many measures as they can to protect Their privacy and not let people geolocate them.
	So that's the first message that I think people should take.
	I think everybody who really cares about this should be writing whoever their representatives are, you know, and making their voice get heard that, you know, it's not a matter of Depriving people of their free speech.
	They're also depriving people, the people who want to listen to that speech, of listening to something that they might find interesting.
	And government should have no role in interfering with the communications on peer-to-peer communications.
	And I think that people should be very outspoken about the fact is that the only effective way to deal with what people talk about as being hate speech is more speech.
	So you don't solve the problem.
	You know, I think practically speaking, I think, you know, many people think there's a growth of hate speech, and I think there's a correlation between the growth of hate speech and the growth of censorship.
	So, you know, it's not like somebody wakes up and says, gee, you know, I have these feelings and I'm expressing my honest feelings, you know, and now I'm going to feel better.
	You know, knowing that I've been deplatformed and demonetized and dehumanized and demonized, and that's going to make me feel better and make me a better human being.
	No, it's counterproductive.
	So I think as a tactic, as a principle, it's wrong.
	and as a tactic it's counterproductive so so so so that they so that these platforms you know so we should keep
	We should compete in the competition for ideas, in the marketplace of ideas, and when somebody has a bad idea, you point it out, and hopefully you can win the debate of ideas, and if we're going to have a civil society, we don't have a civil society by shutting people up.
	We have a civil society by never stopping to engage in discourse.
	And that's what Bid Shoot represents.
	And that's clearly the values I have had because, you know, I'm the only person out there who has funded three of – You know, I'm the only one that's put up money into platforms nobody else would write a check for.
	And so I'm very passionate about this, as Laura well knows.
	And I really, and I think people who believe in free speech should support every free speech platform.
	They should be on Rumble.
	You know, my advice, my last words are this.
	Be on every platform that accepts Laura Luma.
	And don't support any platform that doesn't accept Oraluma.
	That's my last piece of advice.
	Yeah, so basically, X, bitch, shoot, and rumble.
	And who knows how long I'll last on X, right?
	So, exactly.
	Jeffrey, thank you so much for coming on.
	If people want to create BitChute accounts, where do they go?
	How do they follow you?
	And what's the best way that they can continue following updates from BitChute as they continue to fight for free speech on a global level?
	I think the best place is to go to bit shoot calm and Open up an account.
	I Don't I don't post content, so It's hard to follow me so because I don't really I So I like to engage in conversation with my friends on a personal basis, but I don't really enjoy so much the impersonal dialogue.
	You know, here I'm happy to be here because, Laura, you and I have been friends for And you're authentic in a world of people who are inauthentic.
	And so I have great appreciation.
	Independent of whatever his ideology is, you know, what I most appreciate in people is authenticity and you're authentic.
	So people should just go to bitshoot.com, and they should follow Laura Loom, among others, and Ray Vehe, the founder on Bitshoot.
	And if you have any questions or need to ask, Yeah.
	And you can see on the bottom of the screen here, live on the show, we have a BitChute ticker.
	And we have for a long time now.
	And that's where people can go if they want to see my BitChute channel as well.
	BitChute.com slash Laura Loomer.
	Every single episode of this show is updated to upload it and updated every single episode on BitChute's website.
	So definitely check it out if you haven't already done so.
	It's a great platform.
	Jeffrey, thank you so much for coming on tonight.
	I really appreciate it.
	You're always welcome to come on the show anytime you want to talk about these issues.
	And I really appreciate everything that you and Ray are doing to fight for free speech.
	Thank you so much, Laura.
	You're very generous.
	Yeah, thank you.
	I really appreciate it.
	Have a great night.
	Thank you.
	Bye.
	Bye.
	So there you have it, you guys.
	And you may think that, oh, well, you know, I don't live in the UK.
	Why should I care about this?
	Because what is happening in the UK could come to our country, too.
	We're very grateful that President Trump, we're very lucky that President Trump won this election.
	Because if President Trump had not won the 2024 presidential election, I can guarantee you, I can promise you that we would have seen.
	Very similar policies like the UK's Online Safety Act implemented here in the United States.
	We already know that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris wanted to have misinformation czars.
	They wanted to crack down on free speech.
	And in fact, they did crack down on free speech.
	It's all starting to come out now, right?
	We saw just a few days ago that Tulsi Gabbard over at DNI released a confirmation confirming the fact that the Biden administration did, in fact, designate a lot of the doctors and people who were blowing the whistle on alternative therapies to treat COVID.
	People who were opposed to the vaccine, they classified them as extremists, as terrorists.
	And they they actually asked.
	We already know this.
	Elon Musk exposed this.
	We had testimony from Mark Zuckerberg.
	So it's all out there.
	It's not a conspiracy theory.
	And I can guarantee you that if it weren't for President Trump and J.D. Vance, they would have absolutely implemented their own online safety act.
	We would have seen the complete death of free speech in America.
	Momentarily, we're going to be joined by my next guest, Anthony Bellotti, the founder of White Coat Waste.
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	You know, those of you who watch my show, you know that I'm a big-time animal lover.
	I love dogs.
	I have four dogs on my own.
	I love animals.
	And one of the things that I'm very passionate about is animal testing.
	I really do not like animal testing.
	And earlier in the year, a friend of mine...
	And I had heard of things that they had done, right?
	Like exposing Fauci and all the experiments with the beagles and the labs.
	But I really wasn't too familiar with White Coat Waste as a whole.
	And over the last few months, I have really become quite friendly, right?
	Consider them my friends.
	I've collaborated with them and had them on the show several times.
	And it's pretty amazing.
	What can happen, right?
	When you cross paths with people and you never know who you're going to meet.
	You never know what's going to happen when you meet a new person.
	And I think it's just so beautiful.
	One of my favorite things about having access to such a large platform and being free to say what I want to say and not working for a corporate entity and not working for the mainstream media is I'm allowed to report on whatever I want to report on.
	I'm allowed to decide anytime I want to go live what I want to do.
	One of the things I really have been focused on covering here at Loomer Unleashed over the last few months is the federal funding of animal abuse with your taxpayer dollars.
	And $20 billion a year of U.S. tax dollars go towards funding abusive torture experiments on cats and dogs in taxpayers.
	And it's happening not just at NIH headquarters, but it's also happening at laboratories all across the country.
	And many of these laboratories, as we have exposed with our friends over at White Coat Waste, are located at a lot of these universities that President Trump is speaking out against.
	So I want to thank President Trump because while he's cracking down federally on the funding of a lot of these He's universities engaged in anti-American, anti-Semitic activities.
	He's also cracking down on a lot of the funding of the animal abuse experiments that are happening and happening in many of these facilities.
	And so joining me now to discuss a lot of.
	Very exciting week.
	We have so much content to go through tonight because it's just been win after win after win as it relates to getting bans on animal testing, getting animal welfare legislation passed this week.
	Joining me now to discuss all of this is the founder and CEO of White Coat Waste, Anthony Bellotti.
	Anthony, thanks so much for joining me tonight.
	It's great to have you.
	It's your furry friend.
	Who's that cutie?
	Well, hey, Laura.
	It's great to be here.
	Thank you for having us.
	And this here is Delilah.
	This is Delilah and she is a survivor of one of those federal animal labs that you just aptly described.
	It's the $20 billion torture chambers, $20 billion a year of tax money that our government Delilah is formerly government ID number 87. You can see it in her ear.
	In both of her ears, bilateral tattoos, number 87. And she didn't come from just any cat laboratory.
	She's a survivor of what was the largest cat lab in the entire federal government.
	And in President Trump's last administration, White Coat Waste ran the campaign that exposed it and closed it.
	And my best friend is alive and here with us today.
	Thanks a lot to President Trump's leadership.
	And we're extending those victories now in the second administration.
	Bigger, better, more.
	And just losing track of time, 48 hours ago, it's been Another massive victory for pets in laboratories, cats and dogs at the Department of the Navy.
	We just earned and secured a policy to ban testing on cats and dogs in taxpayer-funded labs via the U.S. Navy.
	And this was announced while I was live on air.
	So I was, you know, live on air on Tuesday evening when this announcement came out and my phone kept ringing and it was the secretary, well, it was the Press Secretary and the Chief of Staff for the Secretary of the Navy under the Trump administration.
	And I was like, oh my God, I didn't have the number saved in my phone.
	I was like, oh my God, who's calling me?
	I'm live on air right now.
	And so people would have seen me saying, oh, people are calling me live on air.
	Why are people calling me?
	I'm live on air.
	And it was because they were calling to say that the exclusive reporting here on Loomer Unleash of the White Coat Waste Investigations when I had your colleague Justin Goodman on.
	To talk about your guys' exclusive investigative report, which we, you know, were the first to put in a written form, right, in an article to publish your incredible findings at White Coat Waste.
	It ended up going viral, as many of you saw.
	That was a story that we broke here on Loomer Unleashed with White Coat Waste, and Elon Musk ended up seeing it, and he said that he was going to investigate.
	Less than a month later, I think it was about three weeks later, the Secretary of the Navy, late on Tuesday evening, released a video saying that the videos and the documents that we exposed were absolutely horrific.
	We're referring to those electroshock experiments.
	We played the videos here on Loomer Unleashed that you guys uncovered, and we showed the FOIA documents that you guys uncovered that showed that millions of dollars, we thought it was $10.8 million, but it turns out that the number was actually $15 million, according to the Secretary of the Navy.
	They were shoving marbles and condoms up the butts of cats and electrocuting them and crippling them to do these horrific, abusive experiments.
	It sounds crazy.
	We actually have the video.
	we played it on Loomer Unleashed several weeks ago for those of you who are longtime viewers and maybe we'll play it again tonight, but it's so amazing because, I would say that white coat waste is probably the most effective, and I wouldn't even say probably, is the most effective animal advocacy organization out there right now when it comes to shutting down taxpayer-funded animal abuse.
	and In addition to having the Navy Secretary speak out about ending this $15 million contract, Pete Hegseth also issued a statement from the official rapid response account two weeks ago saying that they were shutting down testing on beagles.
	And then we were awaiting another official statement as it pertained to a DOD contract where 300 beagles per week, which were provided by the United States government with funding from the United States government, were being tortured in a laboratory paid for by U.S. tax dollars in China.
	And we were waiting patiently for them to release a statement on that ending.
	And I believe today, right, there was a report in the New York Post officially Officially releasing a statement from the Department of Defense saying that they were going to be ending those torture experiments, which equates to 27,000 beagles per year.
	It's been an unbelievable few weeks, Laura, and thank you again for everything to help us really just turbocharge these campaigns.
	We would not have been able to win.
	Not at this pace, not without you.
	And so thank you for really everything here.
	I mean, this is big stuff.
	This is real lives we're talking about.
	You can see.
	I mean, I didn't just rescue this cat who came out of a lab.
	We exposed it and closed it.
	And then I, you know, living with my new pet here who was a lab animal.
	And this is big stuff.
	And this is a big deal.
	And as you just pointed out, we didn't just get Pete Hegseth to do the right thing and cut that contract.
	And thank you, Secretary Hegseth.
	Very important move he made because it didn't only cut the contract for the electroshock torture and constipation torture and ED torture.
	Marbles and condoms.
	He didn't only cut that.
	He set, with that one strategic move, he set in a chain reaction, a $10 million contract that he, well, now we know it's more than that, but we thought it was a $10 million contract.
	He shredded it, set off a ripple wave.
	Ten days later, the Secretary of the Navy then says, I'm going even further.
	All of it, all the dogs and cats now, I'm wiped out.
	Wiped out.
	We're wiping out the policy.
	We have that video, actually.
	I want to go ahead and play the video from the Secretary of the Navy.
	He posted this video on Tuesday evening announcing the end of the contract.
	And we're in talks with the Secretary of the Navy and the Department of Defense, too, for a meet and greet with White Coat Waste.
	And so stay tuned for that, because following these reports that came out and they were.
	The Secretary of the Navy released this statement that we're about to play for all of you, and they now also want to get more involved with white coat waste in identifying other examples of waste fraud and abuse.
	And so, you know, there's other animal groups out there, we won't say their name, but they know who they are, that love to try to take credit for the work of other organizations, and they try to get away with it because they have very large budgets and they think that having access to all that money in the PR machine, PETA is going to somehow make them more effective.
	But ultimately, it'd be really great if we can get to a point in time where people could put their ideological differences aside and their hatred for Trump aside and understand that animals are creatures that bring us all together despite our political differences and our ideological differences.
	And this is something that people from all backgrounds, all religious backgrounds, all ethnicities, all political parties should be crossing the aisle to come together on to say we're not going to tolerate $20 billion of our taxpayer money every single year.
	Going towards these torture chambers here in the United States of America to torture innocent cats and dogs and monkeys and mice and rats and all types of animals, but mostly primates and cats and dogs over, over, well,
	According to John Raymer, who came on a couple weeks ago, he was He, of course, is the founder of Kindness Ranch, and he goes around and just got a text message from him the other day telling me that they picked up another 30 beagles this week, right?
	They picked up another 30 beagles from laboratories that are surrendering these beagles.
	They would otherwise have been executed and euthanized, and they will now be going to the Kindness Ranch in Wyoming.
	And so it's a beautiful thing.
	It's a really beautiful thing.
	That funding for these animal abuse experiments are not allowed any longer.
	And there's a lot of work to be done, of course.
	A lot of these contracts still haven't been cut, but every single time we have brought them to the attention of the Trump administration, it may take a couple weeks, but they've been very receptive in trying to end these contracts.
	So I want to go ahead and play the clip.
	This is the Navy Secretary on Tuesday evening announcing the end of their testing on dogs and cats.
	Today it gives me great pleasure to terminate all Department of the Navy's testing on cats and dogs, saving taxpayer dollars and ending these inhumane studies.
	This is long overdue.
	In addition to this termination, I'm directing the Surgeon General of the Navy to conduct a comprehensive review of all medical research programs to ensure they align with ethical guidelines, scientific necessity, and our core values of integrity and readiness.
	this.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	That must make you feel really good because how many years have you been doing this?
	many years have you been involved in animal advocacy and trying to end animal testing yeah this is so we're i would say about it's funny question you asked that i would white coats going on it's it's almost nine full time full years but i have a funny story because next month is the 30th anniversary Of how I got into all this.
	I worked in an animal testing lab when I was 17 years old.
	So I just dated myself.
	But when I was in high school, I wanted to get...
	And I wanted to get a letter of recommendation for a pre-medical track in college.
	You know, one of those accelerated programs.
	So long story short, I...
	And, you know, I was not a vegetarian.
	I wasn't an animal rights activist.
	I was a 17-year-old kid from Jersey.
	But I was horrified by what I saw.
	And I will never forget until to this day.
	It became my life's mission, and it became my life's work to fight back against gratuitous cruelty in these torture chambers.
	And I didn't know how to do it when I was 17 years old, but I know how to do it now.
	And over the last nine years, what we've done, Laura, and what you just saw in that video is proof of it.
	What we're doing is ending the culture of losing.
	The culture of losing in the animal rights, the legacy animal rights movement, because it wasn't very good at shutting down labs.
	It's been around, those legacy groups have been around for so many decades.
	Scores, right?
	50 years.
	40, 50 years.
	And what do we get for it?
	Vivisection fancy word for experimentation on animals what?
	up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up their watch.
	And a taxpayer-funded share of the vivisection pie, or the animal testing pie, went up, up, up, up, up, up.
	A grand total of zero federal dog labs were shut down over the last close to 20 years.
	And a grand total of zero federal cat labs, Right here, her.
	We're shut down in 40 years.
	Again, outside of what we're doing here.
	That's the legacy approach.
	It don't work.
	Throwing red paint doesn't work.
	If you want to save animals, you cut funding that hurts them.
	It's that simple.
	Stop the money.
	Stop the madness.
	That was the innovation we came up with.
	This is a taxpayer-funded problem.
	If we can drain the swamp, we can drain the problem.
	And that's what we did.
	President Trump was the first president to sign an executive order, if you recall, during the first Trump administration that made animal cruelty a felony.
	And so that was not done until President Trump.
	And it's interesting how a lot of times people think that, oh, it's the Democrats that care about animals and they care about the environment.
	Well, President Trump, as far as I'm concerned, has done more to support animal welfare and animal rights and to fight against animal testing.
	and animal abuse than any president in United States history that I can think of.
	And so I think that he should definitely be commended for doing so.
	And it gets even better.
	Not only did the Secretary of the Navy announce that they were banning all testing on dogs and cats going forward, but let's go ahead and show this New York Post article that just came out today, and then you can speak to this as well because this was another question.
	We also have the Floridian article, too.
	There was a lot of press on the Navy Secretary.
	This was one article that came out.
	Let's go ahead and get this up on the screen.
	NIH won't renew cruel drug experiments on beagle puppies, some as young as eight months old.
	Scroll down.
	This just came out today.
	I had actually released this about two weeks ago on Twitter when we first became aware of it, but for some reason it took two weeks for an official statement.
	Let's go ahead and get that pulled back up.
	It took about two weeks for an official statement to be released, but I'm glad that it's now in a mainstream publication.
	It says China-led drug tests on hundreds of beagle puppies won't be conducted.
	And the number is a bit inaccurate there, I'd say, because it's hundreds every week, right?
	It's 300 per week, which equates to 27,000.
	So the New York Post actually correct their article to say 300 per week.
	Let's get it back on the screen here.
	300 per week, it's actually 27,000.
	Won't be conducted anymore on the U.S. taxpayers' dime.
	The National Institutes of Health confirmed to the Post on Thursday, but the Defense Department still hasn't copped to partially funding the research gene cruel by lawmakers and a watchdog group.
	A $124,200 contract between the NIH and the Beijing-based biotech firm Farmeron to test pharmaceuticals on the pooches from September 1, 2023 to May 31, 2025 is not being renewed, according to a spokesperson with the Public Health Agency's Office of Extramural Research.
	You can scroll down.
	Scroll up a little bit.
	It's actually a lot more money than that.
	The Taxpayer Watchdog White Coat Waste Project unearthed the contract via a Freedom of Information request with documents showing up to 300 beagles.
	Supposed to be per week.
	300 beagles per week as well as rats and mice.
	Again, we did the math on this and we talked about this a couple weeks ago on Loomer Unleashed.
	That's 27,000 beagles.
	Okay, 27,000 beagles per year, you guys, that are now going to be saved.
	We're being tested per week to help understand and treat neurological disorders.
	Yeah, well, they say it in a very...
	And they try to make it sound like they were just doing research on.
	It's a lot more brutal than that.
	A lot more brutal.
	And the reason why they needed 300 per week is because of the mortality rate of a lot of the beagles.
	Because, well...
	I mean, that's a lot of dogs.
	That's 27,000.
	And they do not treat animals well in China.
	And I know we opened up the show tonight by talking about how President Trump is cracking down on the student visas of Chinese nationals.
	Look, I think we need to have a serious conversation about what happens when we import people into our country or we work with people who don't share our values.
	And I have a.
	Three of them are rescues.
	One of my dogs, Mecca, my Yorkie Poo, was rescued from China.
	She came from a Chinese meat market.
	And so that's what they do to dogs there.
	They torture them in laboratories, just like what's happening here in the United States.
	But they also eat them.
	They kill them.
	During COVID, they were under the belief in China that COVID, if you had COVID, your dogs and your cats also had COVID.
	And so they were going around and they were kidnapping people's pets in nets and bashing their heads on the sidewalk in videos that were going viral.
	They really, honestly, have a terrible record as it relates to dogs and cats in China.
	And I think it should horrify everybody that our Department of Defense was engaged in contracts with the Chinese government to torture animals.
	You know, it's funny, Lori, China.
	Let's talk about China for another minute here.
	How did we find that contract at all?
	You know, the NIH DOD contract going to China.
	Well, it comes back to this cat right here.
	You mentioned the meat markets in China, eating dogs and cats in the most horrific, horrific abuse.
	And you're right.
	Well, we know something about this because her laboratory back during the first Trump administration in 2019, she came from the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
	That's where Delilah was born.
	Grandparents, great-grandparents, all the way back to, I think, the 60s.
	I think she traces her bloodlines all the way back there, the first cat they were using.
	And Delilah's lab was doing something very, very bad.
	What they were doing was they were actually going around to China, purchasing, rounding up dog and cat meat over there and bringing it back to the kittens over here in the Beltway.
	They were flying at home, tongues, brains, body parts of cats and dogs, again, pets, stolen pets, whatever, family pets, stray animals, meat market, rounding them up, literally flying them back, Chinese scientists in their carry-on luggage on flights, transporting it to her laboratory in Maryland, and then feeding.
	The cat meet two other lab kittens.
	Delilah was a breeder in that lab.
	She had 22 kittens who were all slaughtered and incinerated around 10 weeks old.
	22 of them.
	And they were burned to a crisp.
	Why were they burned?
	Why did they burn the kittens?
	That was their policy.
	They incinerated them.
	After they killed them, they grabbed them by the scruff of the neck.
	Why did they want to kill the kittens?
	Because that was the protocol.
	That's what they were doing.
	They were doing toxoplasmosis research, and they were harvesting the germs.
	They literally were making the kittens eat rotten meat that was infected with parasites.
	They went to the litter box, pooped it out, they harvested the germs, and then they killed the kittens.
	And this went on for almost 50 years.
	So long story short, back to the China connection, because this is what broke the back of the program when we exposed this.
	That they were flying to China, getting cat meat and dog meat, and feeding it in cannibalism experiments in the Beltway.
	That was the first investigation we ever did abroad.
	And when we went public with that information You're talking about laboratories for those who are wondering what he means by the Beltway.
	It's another term for the swamp, right?
	In case you don't spend time in D.C. Because a couple people in the comments are like, what's the Beltway?
	The Beltway is the Washington, D.C., Virginia area.
	So that's where deep state experimenters and scientists and bureaucrats hang out.
	That's another word for it.
	Because that's what they're loaded up with in the swamp.
	They were flying dead cats and dead dogs.
	From China to the United States to engage in cannibalism experiments in laboratories in the Beltway where they were torturing cats and dogs.
	And by the way, this is still happening, by the way, just so you all know.
	White Coat Waste has only gotten some of it shut down.
	There are still hundreds of labs across our country that are engaged in this type of activity.
	And so if you think that, oh, well, Absolutely not.
	There's still a ton of them, including within our own government.
	You know, while the government is now starting to address some of this, after our coverage went viral and your investigations, which I aired here on my show, went viral, unfortunately there are still some people in the Trump administration who are trying to pretend like they are doing good by these animals, but they actually aren't.
	And we had to speak truth to power and one of those individuals to...
	And I know that you have some breaking news that you wanted to break here on Loomer Unleashed tonight as it pertains to Dr. Jay Bhattacharya and his extension of some of these animal abuse experiments.
	And I hate that we have to follow up all the great news with some bad news, but we need to shut it down.
	We need to shut it down.
	So, Anthony, why don't you share with our viewers right now this exclusive story that hasn't been reported anywhere else about what Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, the new NIH director, just did?
	Well, Laura, you're right.
	There's a lot more work to be done, and here's proof.
	Just two weeks ago, everybody knows about Fauci's Beagle experiments.
	We're the investigators who broke that to the world.
	Fauci had many Beagle experiments, not merely the ones on his own campus, not merely the ones that they were doing in-house.
	We exposed those two and closed them down.
	But here's the problem, Laura.
	As you mentioned, there's a lot of other universities, schools on the dole taking tax money, your money, for experimenting on dogs and cats.
	And one of them was at the University of Missouri.
	And this is another Fauci-funded legacy grant that just got renewed.
	Another payout for taxpayer-funded torture at the University of Missouri, which was a Fauci grant to feed dogs alive to ticks and let them feast and eat and suck the blood of the dogs.
	So we have a big problem here.
	It's why are we still funding this stuff?
	Why are we giving new payouts for dog and cat experiments?
	What's going on here?
	This is not what the president wanted.
	The president was very clear about this.
	Crack that.
	End.
	Well, and it's also very disingenuous because we played the clip a few weeks ago where he was asked about it on...
	And he made it sound like they were committed to ending animal testing, and here he is now renewing funding for animal torture experiments on dogs where they're literally allowing for ticks to eat dogs alive.
	At the University of Missouri.
	So I think that Dr. J. Bhattacharya needs to be questioned on this.
	He definitely needs to be pressed on this because it's rather disingenuous and pretty cruel, in my opinion, to go on Fox News and talk about how amazing you are because while you're shutting down a Beagle lab at the NIH headquarter, only to deceptively then, two weeks later, not even, almost 11 days later, right?
	Because that came out on the 3rd of May, I believe.
	I believe that came out on the 3rd of May, and now you're saying that on the 14th of May, they allocated this funding for these animal torture experiments at University of Missouri.
	So not even two weeks later, he's repeating the behavior that is...
	So just like we've had to clear house at the NSC and the NSA and a lot of these other agencies, and we talk about this extensively here on Loomer Unleashed, this concept of the vetting crisis in the Trump administration, the current administration officials and cabinet members Dr. Jay Bhattacharya and say that Oh,
	they're committed to ending animal testing or reducing animal testing.
	Well, he clearly lied when he issued that recent press release that they published on the NIH website saying that they were going to phase out some of their animal testing or be committed to ending more animal testing.
	That doesn't really seem like a commitment to ending animal testing to me when you're allocating funding for these horrific experiments.
	And that's what Dr. Fauci got in trouble for.
	But it was flies instead of ticks, right?
	Allowing for beagles.
	To have their heads eaten alive by flies.
	I think it was fruit flies, some kind of a fruit fly.
	And now Dr. J. Bhattacharya is essentially repeating Dr. Fauci's cruel experiment, but with ticks instead of flies.
	This is a major, major concern.
	And you're right.
	You talk about the vetting crisis in the administration.
	And the vetting crisis I mean, this needs to be probed because why are we funding this?
	Why are we not defunding this?
	What is going on at the NIH?
	This was not the president.
	This is clearly at a step that the president wanted.
	He was very clear.
	The president doesn't support this.
	President Trump doesn't support this.
	You know, I know that his administration officials, upon hearing this, they do not support this.
	Pete Hegseth was horrified when he found out about these experiments that were happening with the DOD.
	The Navy Secretary was horrified.
	I know so.
	I spoke with his staff.
	They personally told me that he was horrified.
	And so it just makes me wonder why Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, who is aware of what's happening and claiming to shut it down, is then quietly approving this.
	Like, is he not horrified by animal abuse and torture?
	I understand.
	I understand, too, that he has said that he's a fan of white coat waste.
	Well, how can you say that you're a fan of white coat waste when you are giving funding to the same mad scientists who are being exposed by white coat waste?
	It's just very disingenuous, and it's very fake, and I'm very disappointed in Dr. Jay Bhattacharya.
	We gave him praise a couple weeks ago here on Loomer Unleashed when he did the right thing.
	We will always give people credit when credit is due, but we also have to call people out when When they go astray or they do something that is incompatible with the America First agenda and we have to call everybody out if they're engaged in animal abuse or the facilitation of animal abuse and I think we can all agree that allowing ticks to eat animals alive when they can't leave a cage and they're subjected to feel pain and they're not being given pain medicine.
	And they're not allowed to go outside.
	That's animal abuse.
	And Dr. J. Bhattacharya needs to be held accountable for that if he's going to allow for this to happen on his watch.
	Absolutely.
	I mean, it's credit where credit is due for sure, always.
	But this is our job, is to expose and close these labs that are conducting heinous and wasteful spending on animals.
	NIH has a problem with priorities right now.
	You mentioned that big announcement with the press release and their new policy, this Arriva policy.
	We oppose it.
	We oppose it.
	And we opposed it when they put it out for a reason.
	It was a bit of a disappointment.
	You have an Arriva policy.
	They call it Arriva.
	it's an abbreviation but what it means is What they said was that they're going to prioritize things like alternatives.
	It sounds good, but unless there's a commitment with a timetable, a deadline, and a hard spending cut, without that deadline to phase it out and get rid of it, the problem is it gives this unlimited pass to just Maintain the status quo.
	And the status quo is unacceptable.
	That's what's going on.
	We've got Fauci, Biden, leftovers and holdovers who are ramming these payouts through.
	I'm not sure.
	But this is a major problem of priorities right now.
	Why is Fauci getting funded?
	Why are Fauci grants getting refunded now?
	They should be getting defunded.
	Absolutely.
	Are there any other cuts to animal testing that you want to highlight?
	I know that it's been a pretty big month, let alone a big week for white coat waste, but I know that we spoke about the announcement today.
	Well, the confirmation of the announcement we made two weeks ago by the New York Post as it relates to the ending of the contract with the DOD in China, where 27,000 beagles per year were going to be supplied by the United States of America for torture experiments.
	We talked about the Navy Secretary cutting all animal testing as it relates to dogs and cats.
	What else?
	Well, we also have, you know, there's a lot of other junk that needs to go, right?
	There's a lot of other, In the NIH headquarters right now, there is a heinous monkey experiment, Laura, that you helped us expose recently, that they're still doing in, again, in their own basement, right there in the NIH headquarters.
	Where Dr. Jay Bhattacharya works every day, by the way.
	So this is what I'm talking about, about being disingenuous.
	Don't go on Fox News and pretend like you're a savior for animals and that you're doing the right thing.
	They're doing this in Bethesda, Maryland, like these buildings that you see, right?
	We're not just talking about laboratories in China and faraway lands.
	We're talking about laboratories in federal buildings in China.
	It sounds like something out of a sci-fi movie, some kind of horror movie, where you have these mad scientists literally caging innocent dogs and cats and monkeys in cages in the basements of these federal buildings and they're torturing them with a $20 billion budget per year.
	And back in, you know, right after we shut Delilah's lab down back in 2019, White Coat Waste sued the NIH.
	And we sued them to pry secret videotapes out of their hands of filming.
	They were actually filming these monkey experiments in the basement, in which they were damaging their brains with acid.
	They were chaining them up by the neck, locking them up in these cages, and then deliberately frightening them with snakes and spiders.
	Just to provoke a fear response, right?
	So think about that.
	They're caging them, they're brain damaging them, and then they're just trying to induce as much fear as possible.
	This is still happening.
	This is still going on inside his headquarters.
	Why?
	You know, again, we first exposed those secret videos to the world back in, well, we first sued in 2019, got the tapes, and exposed them to the world in early 2020.
	And we started the campaign, and we're not stopping until that's cleaned out, too.
	But that is still going on right now, and it shows you.
	We have a major problem with priorities right now.
	They're building more bureaucracy.
	They're building bigger government.
	They're opening up new departments.
	This new Areva plan I told you about, it looks like a Joe Biden plan.
	That's what it looks like.
	It looks like a Kamala plan.
	That's what they're building in there right now.
	We've got a big problem of priorities.
	Why are we funding Fauci grants to feed dogs to ticks and insects?
	Why are we torturing monkeys with snakes and spiders in the basement of the NIH?
	This stuff's got to go.
	That's priority number one.
	Clean house.
	Yeah, and they're still funding some of these kitten labs, too.
	You talked about the kitten lab that you guys got shut down where your precious Delilah, and you have multiple cats, right?
	This is just one of the cats.
	Don't you have another cat that you rescued from a laboratory as well?
	Absolutely.
	I actually adopted two cats from the USDA in 2019.
	After Trump shut that down, we ran that campaign.
	He shut it down.
	And I adopted two of the breeding moms.
	One of them passed away last year.
	Her name was Petite.
	And she was a tiny little cat.
	They named her Petite.
	And she passed away.
	And then I adopted another one from another lab.
	We had gotten shut down.
	Her name is Marigold.
	And she actually was, from the University of California, Davis, was another Fauci-funded experiment in which they were trying to replicate the same style of kitten cannibalism experiments, but doing it out there.
	And Dr. Fauci was funding it.
	We knocked that thing out, killed that thing last year, and Marigold was one of the cats in the colony.
	Where they were breeding cats and doing experiments on them.
	So this is, saving cats from wasteful spending is my specialty.
	And so Marigold is still alive, right?
	She's just not on air tonight.
	And so if you don't, I don't know, it's a sore subject and I hate to bring it up because our animals are like children.
	Did Petit die from natural causes or was her death accelerated because of the mistreatment she had in the laboratories?
	Probably natural causes, but who knows, right?
	I mean, it was, it was, she had a her kidneys went out at the end um and she had been sick for a while but you know it's pets are family.
	And these two cats were my...
	And they're going down in the history books too.
	You know, it's...
	The last thing I'll say about China is, you know, a lot of people don't know this, but...
	We're also the organization that first exposed and first uncovered that U.S. taxpayers funded the Wuhan lab, the Wuhan Institute of Virology, the lab leak center.
	We exposed that.
	Responsible for the China virus, which killed 1.2 million Americans and millions of other people around the world, too.
	And that taxpayers funded it, that the U.S. government We did it.
	We did our own pandemic.
	And the reason we did that was because of these cats.
	We were hot on the trail of looking at what American animal testing labs were paying for in China because of the kitten cannibalism experiments.
	That happened in 2019.
	We took out the USDA.
	And right after we ended that laboratory, and we did it with the silver bullet, which was The knockout punch was the kitten cannibalism investigation.
	So the first thing we did after that was we said, well, what else is our government funding in China?
	That was the first question we asked.
	What else?
	What other animal abuse are we funding over there?
	So we started looking around and we were going through what you call a PHS assurance list, which is the list of all the laboratories that the NIH had.
	And in late 2019, we came across that there were about 28, 29, 30 give or take laboratories who were authorized for money in China.
	Nobody was talking about the Lab League at that time.
	People didn't start getting sick until what?
	At least we didn't hear, excuse me, people got sick early, but the news reports didn't start coming out until early 2020.
	It was an epidemic.
	Before it was a pandemic.
	And we had the goods, right?
	We followed the money right to Wuhan.
	And we saw there were two universities, Wuhan Institute of Virology and Wuhan University, authorized by the NIH, two of them alone in China.
	And we brought this to the Trump administration's attention.
	We met with them in very early 2020.
	And like I said, it was only an epidemic at that moment.
	It wasn't a pandemic yet.
	But we were meeting with them just to talk about the broader agenda of wasteful spending on animal testing.
	And a month or two after that, or around April of 2020, we took our investigation to the Daily Mail.
	And that was where the headline came from.
	U.S. government grants $3.7 million.
	To the Lab League Center, I'm paraphrasing here, at the center of the coronavirus scandal.
	That's how the world learned who paid for the pandemic.
	And my cats are the ones who put us on that trail.
	Because they were part of that kitten cannibalism investigation, because they turned us on to the scandal that our government was funding these labs in China.
	That's how this happened.
	And that's how taxpayers learned about it and the world learned about it.
	So Petit's no longer with us, but she's going down in history.
	Absolutely.
	And white coat waste is going down in history for all of the incredible work that you've done, not just to expose the China virus, but also to expose all of these cruel animal abuse experiments.
	And think about all the lives that you've saved.
	I mean, just in the announcement today that was confirmed, I mean, we released this together two weeks ago, and now the media confirmed it today with the official statement that we were waiting on from the Department of Defense.
	That's 27,000 beagles just in one lab per year that you have saved from this one contract that won't be renewed because of your investigation.
	Who knows how many dogs and cats you just saved this week, too, as a result of the Secretary of the Navy banning all testing on dogs and cats going forward.
	Who knows how many cats and dogs you're saving from these electroshock experiments that are also being cut from the DOD.
	I mean, there are thousands of animals that are now going to...
	And hopefully through your work with groups like Kindness Ranch, which goes across the country and picks up these innocent beagles from all these different laboratories, you're going to be able to help these innocent animals find loving homes instead of being tortured for the rest of their lives in these.
	Horrific torture chambers paid for by our taxpayer dollars.
	So I hope you're very proud of yourself and the work that you're doing, especially as a group that has such a small budget compared to groups like PETA that have $75 million per year.
	And it's like, personally, I think that you guys should be getting...
	they should be giving you guys the money.
	The money that they're taking away from these animal testing experiments should go to groups like you that are actually exposed So hopefully you're able to get millions of dollars in contributions so that you can continue expanding because you have a pretty small team, right?
	I mean, if you don't mind sharing with the viewers tonight how many people work for White Coat Least.
	team effort, these historic So congrats to team effort here.
	Thank you.
	And we are a small team, but we're lean and mean.
	And we're Operation Kill.
	We shut the labs down.
	You know, our full-time staff is, I think it's about a dozen, give or take.
	So it's not that big.
	I founded the organization in 2011.
	But it wasn't a full-time organization until 2016.
	I found it out of my own pocket.
	I started it from nothing.
	But, you know, we have a grassroots movement here.
	We have a great message here.
	We have a president in the Oval Office here who supports this moral imperative and this fiscal imperative, and it's just that pets are family.
	We've got to end this sad, horrible chapter of taxpayer-funded torture and get our government out of this dirty business.
	So we're rocking and we're growing.
	And Laura, thank you for helping us each step of the way.
	Absolutely.
	And there's a lot of work to still be done.
	Hopefully we can get you in the Oval Office.
	I think it'd be so great to see President Trump do a photo shoot with the beagles and the cats.
	And I think it's great when you guys take all the dogs and the cats to Capitol Hill to meet with lawmakers because you're doing such important work.
	And I hope that more people will support the work that you're doing as well.
	Where do people go if they want to support you, if they want to donate to White Coat Waste?
	I know you guys have a great website.
	You're also on social media.
	We'll flag your website and your social media accounts for people watching right now.
	But if people watching want to donate, where do they go to donate right now?
	Thank you, Laura.
	If we encourage folks to go to whitecoatwaste.org, whitecoatwaste.org, check us out on X at the handle whitecoatwaste.
	Facebook, white coat waste.
	Instagram, white coat waste.
	Pretty easy.
	White coat waste.
	A funny name, but that's white coat waste.
	That's all you need.
	And you're a 501c3, right?
	So all the contributions are tax-deductible?
	Tax-deductible.
	Great.
	So if you haven't already made your charitable contributions this year, make sure you head on over to whitecoatwaste.org and make a contribution to White Coat Waste.
	They're doing incredible work.
	They're not just talking about saving animals.
	They actually have the receipts to prove it.
	That video from the Secretary of the Navy and also these reports that just came out today in the New York Post.
	I mean, you guys got a lot of press.
	Gateway Pundit, Breitbart, it's all over the place, really.
	All over the news.
	What has happened as a result of your work and your hard-fought investigation.
	So we can't thank you enough.
	As one animal lover to another, I'm just very touched by just the fact that you put your own resources and your own money into building such an impactful organization that is now saving thousands of lives.
	And I just hope that all these animals are going to be able to find loving homes and that they're going to be able to meet people like you, like you rescued Delilah and Petite and Marigold, and that they're going to be able to help these animals escape some of the trauma that has been the last several years of their life living in these laboratories because it's a great place.
	I remember when I got Mecca from the Chinese meat market, you know, she was very timid, she was very scared, and she didn't really want to be around anybody, and she would hide under the bed.
	And now, right, she's like the happiest little dog, so it can happen.
	You can really brighten an animal's life and give them another chance at life, and that's what you guys are doing every day.
	So I'm a proud supporter of White Coat Waste and anything I can do to help you guys.
	You know, I'm blessed with a large platform.
	I worked for my platform.
	I worked hard to build it up from nothing.
	But what's the point of having a large following if you're not going to use your following to help others, right?
	You don't get to keep your Twitter account when you die someday.
	You don't get to take your social media followers with you.
	And so the best part about having a lot of followers on social media is that every single week I'm able to bring people like you on my show and inform other people about all these amazing causes that they can get involved in.
	Mainstream media isn't talking about that they should be talking about.
	So I just want to thank you for everything that you do for the animals, and congratulations.
	What an amazing week it's been for you.
	Thank you, Laura.
	Thank you for everything, and let's go close more labs.
	Absolutely.
	Thank you so much, Anthony.
	I really appreciate it.
	Thank you again.
	Take care.
	Thank you.
	Alrighty.
	Anthony is also on social media as well at Anthony Bilotti, so be sure that you follow him too.
	I follow him and I've posted several of his tweets today, so you can check it out and see it for yourself.
	Joining me now to continue, oh, well, she's getting framed up right now.
	We're going to continue our discussion about animal cruelty and people, heroes, friends of mine.
	Heroic Republican lawmakers.
	Really, it's interesting, isn't it, how
	And so this is something that you're not going to see the media really give Republicans.
	I mean, there's so many Republicans that have Just done absolutely incredible work this week as it relates to fighting for the lives of innocent animals, the most vulnerable members of our society.
	And my next guest is a personal friend of mine, somebody I greatly admire and love dearly.
	She is a freshman, Florida legislature, Florida representative in Tallahassee.
	My friend, Meg Weinberger, Florida representative.
	Meg, thanks so much for joining me tonight.
	Thanks for having me.
	Absolutely.
	You know, one of the reasons why you decided to run for office, and I know I helped you with your campaign and you told me one of the reasons why you wanted so badly to be a Florida representative was to fight for animals.
	And you yourself have your own animal rescue called Rescue Life.
	I've been to your home.
	I've been to your animal rescue.
	You literally have 17 dogs that live inside your house.
	I mean, no joke.
	This woman literally has 17 dogs.
	I'm not just talking little dogs either.
	I'm talking.
	Massive dogs, okay?
	We're talking Great Danes, pit bulls, all types of dogs.
	So she's got a zoo.
	Like an actual zoo.
	She has zebras.
	She has ducks.
	She has cats.
	She has an entire cat compound on her farm.
	She's got horses, cows.
	I mean, there's animals.
	I don't even know what they are, right?
	I just know that they're being taken care of very well.
	And when you decided to run for office, one of the things that you told me that you wanted to do was fight for animals and create laws to go after animals.
	Animal abusers and really make this a national issue, right?
	Animal welfare.
	And you've done an incredible job.
	The Florida legislative session just came to an end and a lot of lawmakers never got to see the governor of their state sign their laws into effect.
	But Governor Ron DeSantis actually signed several of your laws.
	You know, into law.
	And yesterday he signed one of them.
	It's called Dexter's Law.
	And I wanted to bring you on to talk about Dexter's Law tonight because this was a piece of legislation that you created.
	You campaigned on creating this even before you were a lawmaker.
	And it's the creation of an animal abuse database, kind of like a child predator, sex predator, pedophile database, right?
	You know, these databases that you see where child sex predators have to register and then you're able to see how many child sex predators live in your neighborhood.
	You actually got the governor to create an animal abuser database.
	So now there's going to be a state registry, the first of its kind in the state of Florida, the first in the nation to document animal abusers.
	Well, I can't take all the credit, honestly.
	Rep.
	Linda Cheney is the one who filed Dexter's Law.
	I had filed the database.
	And, of course, you know, my passion for animal cruelty and being a voice for the voiceless is something I will always be.
	I truly believe if you're hurting animals, that's not the only law that you're breaking.
	If you're hurting children, you're breaking many other laws.
	And it's just one way to, you know, maybe catch a bad guy before they do something or a girl before they do something worse.
	So this was, you know, Debbie Durino.
	It was her.
	She's a civilian.
	She actually was behind Ponce's Law.
	She's an amazing lady.
	I met her during my campaign.
	We met, I was trying to help with some other animals that were being badly abused and we're trying to get them removed from this.
	It was in Dixie County, believe it or not.
	And we met online and just, You know, kind of kept talking, and she had, there was a story of a guy that was arrested for having sex with his dog, if I'm allowed to say this or not, and he was arrested, put in jail, And as soon as he got out of jail, he actually posted it on social media in a husky suit having sex with his dog.
	So then when he got out of jail.
	Yes, yes.
	I think it was 2019.
	I was trying to look it up.
	What happened to the dog?
	Did the dog get injured?
	You know, I have to ask her.
	I don't remember.
	I might have suppressed it.
	I need to find out.
	I think the dog was removed, obviously.
	But he went to jail.
	As soon as he got out, he was posting a puppy husky that he had adopted right after he got out of jail.
	So, you know, it's one of those that she was this woman, Debbie, so passionate and just like I said, just a civilian that kind of and I was not even elected yet.
	She, you know, just told me about this bill that she really thought would be a great idea.
	So honestly, Representative Cheney having Dexter's Law, you know, making it through all the committees and was kind enough to letting us, you know.
	Senator Leake, putting it on his bill in the Senate, was able to get the database.
	Dexter's Law was another horrific.
	A dog that was adopted from a shelter and one month later found decapitated.
	Actually, he was mutilated and decapitated.
	He was found in the main groups.
	The only way they knew, they wouldn't even have known it was him.
	He was that oddly mutilated.
	But he had a microchip, and the shelter said that he was, you know, the sweetest dog.
	Why did they mutilate him?
	Like, what was the purpose of adopting this dog if they were just going to mutilate him and decapitate him?
	Just Jeffrey Dahmer.
	I don't know.
	I mean, you know, serial killers.
	Somebody that should probably never be let out of jail, in my opinion.
	If you're able to do something that heinous, you know, there's a story.
	Please throw away the key.
	Yeah, and we actually have a bill here announcing the passing of these bills.
	Let's go ahead and play clip number eight.
	Both these bills will save lives.
	Not possibly, not hopefully, they will save lives.
	Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signed two new laws Wednesday crafted to protect animals from abuse and neglect.
	The move comes after a dog was found tied to a pole in Tampa during Hurricane Milton last October.
	Troopers saved the dog just as floodwaters were rising.
	The water was rising very quickly and so it was getting close to his neck.
	And had he just been left there, he may have ended up drowning.
	The incident led to trooper's law named after the rescued dog.
	It's now a felony to tie up and abandon a dog during a declared disaster or evacuation.
	Offenders could receive up to five years in prison and a $10,000 fine.
	That law takes effect October 1st.
	If you evacuate, make sure you're taking care of your pets.
	You cannot leave.
	a dog behind if you're in an evacuation zone.
	DeSantis says, unfortunately, Florida has been home to many dogs on the receiving end of abuse.
	He points to a dog named Dexter who was adopted from a shelter and four days later was found killed.
	Dexter's law takes effect this summer on July 1st.
	It also creates Florida's first animal abuser database and enhances penalties for aggravated cruelty.
	For Straight Arrow News, I'm Kaylee Carey.
	For more unbiased, fact-driven stories, download the Straight Air News mobile app today.
	Straight Air News.
	And, you know, I've been critical of Governor Ron DeSantis in the past.
	That's no secret.
	But I've got to give credit where credit's due.
	I think it's really incredible that Governor Ron DeSantis is standing up for innocent animals and fighting against animal abuse.
	I love that sign that says Florida loves dogs.
	And I'll never forget that story when the hurricane happened.
	I think that you and I were texting each other, you, me, and your husband.
	Oh, my God, can you believe that somebody actually tied their dog up?
	And it ended up having a happy ending, of course.
	I think a Florida State Trooper.
	Super rescued the dog, and then it went to a loving family, and now it's the happiest dog.
	And so it's really amazing to see, you know, terrible tragedies turn into something positive.
	And while it's so sad that Dexter was mutilated and decapitated, it's great that people like you are in the Florida house now to create legislation to protect animals.
	I, you know, hopefully we'll see more legislation like this in the future.
	When does Dexter's Law go into effect?
	I believe it's July.
	I think it's July of 2025.
	I was reading it.
	Yeah, it is.
	January.
	January 1st.
	No, that's the database.
	But the Dexter's Law, I think, may be July.
	You know, I wanted to mention that we have to kind of – I think that we need to educate people and it needs to start in elementary school.
	Many people really don't know how to care for animals.
	They don't understand that.
	To me and you, this seems like common sense, but unfortunately to many people, they don't realize you don't leave your pet.
	When you move out of your house, you don't leave your pet.
	I remember growing up when people would move out, they would just leave their dog and of course we would end up living in our house or something crazy like that.
	I've gone to rescue several dogs from Louisiana during a hurricane where people don't know what to do with their dogs, so they just turn them into the shelter.
	I think someone like you or I can't imagine doing that, but I think people need to be educated.
	You and I rescue dogs together during a hurricane.
	Yeah, I drove to New Orleans during a hurricane and had to meet on the side of the road on a truck stop.
	And we were supposed to bring 20 dogs back in the van.
	During Hurricane Milton, you and I rescued dogs together in the hurricane.
	And when the tornado hit and destroyed the Furry Friends Animal Shelter, you and I were the first people on the scene when they were evacuating all the dogs.
	And you actually are the reason why I ended up adopting Bo, who's one of my new dogs, my blind.
	That's right.
	Blind dog that was one of the dogs that was at the Furry Friends Animal Shelter that got completely destroyed during the tornado in the Hurricane Milton just a few months ago.
	And so I can attest to that.
	And that was my first thought, really, in the aftermath of a storm is let's go save all these animals.
	I think I saw a few cats from that day.
	Yeah.
	Definitely.
	I wanted to take a few more animals, too.
	And we were able to raise a lot of money for them, too.
	In addition to the database, what else is Dexter's Law going to do, aside from, you know, creating hardship penalties?
	Harsher penalties for people who abuse dogs.
	You have this database where people are now going to be able to see how does the database work exactly?
	Because, you know, with the pedophile databases, you type in, you know, are there sex offenders in my neighborhood?
	And it shows where they live.
	It shows what their name is and what their offense was so that you're aware of the crimes they committed against children.
	What can we expect to see from this database?
	It's publicly available.
	How do you access it?
	And what kind of crime?
	Is it just animal abuse?
	Or if they've also committed other crimes, can we expect to see that too?
	Well, it'll be just like as if you were looking at a sex offender.
	Yes, you know, they'll be managing it the same way.
	It doesn't ban them from buying or owning a dog or an animal, but a judge can include that in the sentence.
	It does, however, give the ability.
	I mean, this is a start.
	You know, you have to see where it goes.
	And if it needs to go further, then, you know, then we go back and we make it better.
	So I think we have to keep working at it.
	The Dexter's Law is a sentence multiplier, so it will increase the sentence by 1.25% when it's convicted.
	Wow, that's incredible.
	Are there any other additional forms of legislation that you have in the pipeline?
	I know that the Florida legislative session just came to an end, but I know you're always thinking of ways that you can improve the lives of animals.
	Are there any other bills that you have in mind or bills that are currently being discussed?
	You know, for the next legislative session?
	I would definitely like to continue.
	I had a breeder bill in that would, you know, best management practices for breeders.
	You know, there are some great breeders, and I have no problem if somebody wants to go out and, you know, buy a beautiful golden doodle or a purebred, even though you can rescue them in case people don't know.
	There are breeders that are not good breeders, and their animals are living in conditions where they should not be living in.
	Absolutely.
	We'll fight for that one again next session.
	Any last comments or thoughts or anything that you want to relate to the viewers?
	I know that we've seen a lot of instances of animal abuse here in the state of Florida.
	It's quite alarming.
	I know that there was an incident not too far from where I live.
	Where you have had a fisherman who was recently just indicted, it made news here in the state of Florida for shooting and poisoning multiple dolphins.
	Anything you can tell us about how that case is being prosecuted on the state level?
	I know that the DOJ also released a statement about it.
	But what can you tell us about that?
	That was a story.
	We'll get it up on the screen here momentarily.
	But just saw that story today.
	And it just seems like whether it's not just dogs and cats and monkeys that are being abused and laboratories are being abused by animal abusers who shouldn't have dogs, but also marine animals too.
	I mean, there's a real epidemic of animal abuse in this country.
	I think it goes underreported.
	And every day, there's horrific examples of innocent animals being mutilated, shot, tortured, abused.
	And what can you tell us about how they're being prosecuted?
	Well, you know, again, this is going back to education.
	Because for years, the mindset was they were just property.
	They weren't a living being.
	So I think that's something that we really need to start, you know, Unfortunately, educating people that they are a living being and they're not just property.
	Any creature.
	I don't know much about the dolphin case other than probably what you do.
	it's just horrific.
	I can't imagine somebody- We'll show it on the screen really quick.
	Fishing captain sentence for shooting poisoning dolphins in Gulf of America.
	There were, you know, just talking about a lot of the dolphin fatalities.
	Let's scroll down.
	People can see the rest of the article.
	A longtime charter and commercial fishing captain is in deep waters after poisoning and shooting dolphins in the Gulf of America, formerly known as the Gulf of Mexico.
	Zachary Brandon Barfield of Panama City, Florida, was sentenced to 30 days in prison in order to pay a $51,000 fine after pleading guilty to three counts of poisoning and shooting dolphins in violation of the Marine Mammal Protection Act and federal insecticide.
	Fungicide and Redenticide Act.
	I mean, that seems pretty lenient, right?
	Like 30 days in prison and a $51,000 fine?
	mean I don't know you think that about I think you never have a fishing license again you're You take your boat away.
	I think completely you're stripped of everything.
	And especially go to jail.
	Absolutely.
	I mean, that's horrific.
	Is Dexter's law only applying to domesticated animals like dogs and cats, or is it also going to apply to Right now, it's not wildlife or agriculture.
	It is only domestic.
	But, like I said, you've got to start somewhere.
	I mean, I think that we're going to need to, especially with stories like this.
	This is just not acceptable, you know, and that people have just no regard for life or the law.
	Absolutely.
	Well, Meg, we want to thank you for everything that you're doing.
	You know, in addition to fighting against animal abuse, you also made headlines, too, for your bill to name, what was it, Donald J. Trump Highway.
	What can you tell us about that?
	Because I know that you were endorsed by President Trump.
	You were recently at the Oval Office for a ceremony recognizing some Palm Beach County officers that were murdered in the line of duty.
	And you also made news for your creation of, what was it, Donald J. Trump Boulevard?
	What can you tell us about that?
	Yeah, Donald J. Trump Boulevard, of course.
	I'm so grateful to have such an incredible president in office.
	Common sense, honestly, that I can actually understand when he's in office and speaking and just make sense of everything that he's doing.
	He's going to do it.
	He does it.
	I'm so grateful.
	So I feel like, you know, there's only we need to honor him and the state where he lives and actually is right the street.
	He, you know, he lives.
	And in addition, the my other street naming is PBSO Motorman Highway, which is happens to be on the same street, Southern Boulevard, going west to honor the three officers.
	That, you know, we're killed.
	They're all on their bikes and they're hit by a car.
	Terrible.
	Well, thank you for everything that you're doing, fighting for the citizens of Florida, fighting for animals.
	You do fantastic work and I appreciate everything that you're doing.
	Where can people go to support you?
	Because obviously, you know, you're going to have to...
	Well, since we're still in session, there's no fundraising right now or campaigning, but they can follow me at megforflorida.com.
	Before I leave, I'd love to pay a tribute and honor to Bernard Carrick.
	Who was New York's commissioner and a dear friend and an unbelievable supporter.
	I think he was a big reason that helped me get elected.
	Bernie came from New York several times to not only speak at events for me, but sign wave and he was a big part.
	So I just wanted to hope you don't mind.
	I want to just...
	We received this tragic news right as I was about to go live.
	Bernard Carrick passed away.
	I wasn't even aware that he had an illness.
	I think I saw him last when I was having dinner with you and Eric just a few months ago, and so he didn't look sick, and it's just terrible.
	I'm not really aware of what kind of illness he was battling.
	I don't think a lot of people were aware of it.
	It came as kind of a shock when I saw that he died, I thought, oh, there must have been a terrible accident or something,'cause.
	So very sad.
	I know that he was a supporter of mine too when I ran for Congress and a big supporter of President Trump's and a real patriot in our country and definitely want to pay our tributes to him and respects to his family now that they're grieving tonight following his timely passing.
	So thank you.
	Thank you so much, Laura.
	I appreciate you.
	Thank you for using your platform.
	Animals appreciate it.
	Thanks for coming on, and we look forward to having you on the program in the future.
	Absolutely.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	Love you, girlfriend.
	Thank you.
	Bye.
	A lot of news tonight.
	A lot of news.
	Yeah, very sad with the passing of Bernard Carrick.
	Tributes are pouring in across social media tonight, too.
	Pretty much everybody all over Twitter right now is posting about it.
	Very, very sad.
	You never know when it's going to be your last day.
	That's why you got to do everything that you can to make use of your time on this planet.
	Any comments?
	Any questions?
	Meg's fantastic.
	I love Meg.
	I love Meg and her husband.
	They're such great friends of mine.
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	Let's see what else.
	A lot going on.
	In addition to President Trump revoking these visas of Chinese students, the White House actually announced that they were interested in vetting.
	They were interested in carrying out Vetting of the social media accounts of foreign students.
	Obviously, I'm always talking about the vetting crisis and how I would really love to be involved in vetting.
	It's kind of funny.
	The media loves just making everything I say.
	It doesn't matter what I say.
	They always make it into a big deal.
	I said that it would be a dream job!
	Which it would be to carry out the vetting of foreign students who are trying to come into our country so that I could find excuses, legitimate excuses, based off receipts and evidence, of course, to block them from coming into our country.
	And so a lot of people actually said that I'd be great for the job.
	And Meghan McCain, of all people, it was kind of surprising.
	I think I've sparred with her a couple of times online.
	She's actually had me blocked, unblocked me, urged Trump to hire Laura Loomer.
	To research foreign students all day and find an excuse to block them.
	So that was very nice.
	That was very nice of Meghan McCain to say that about me.
	We can scroll down and see the article.
	Conservative commentator Meghan McCain offered her seal of approval on Wednesday for Laura Loomer to work in the Trump administration and vet the social media accounts of foreign students.
	Loomer, the far-right activist and longtime conspiracy theorist, that's what they love to say, is best known for her outlandish rhetoric and having the ear of President Trump.
	The White House is considering doing vetting on the social media accounts of foreign students.
	Sounds like a dream job for me.
	I would love to research foreign students all day and find an excuse to block them from coming into our country based on their radicalism.
	Sign me up.
	McCain, the former co-host of The View, turned online content creator, agreed with Loomer writing, legit give her this job.
	So, that's great.
	It's nice that even people who have disagreed with me in the past think that I'm qualified for that position.
	And then there was a Daily Mail article about it as well.
	Let's go ahead and get that posted up on the screen.
	The Daily Mail decided to talk about it too.
	Laura Loomer reveals dream job in White House as Trump turbocharges war on Ivy League schools and migrants.
	Far-right activist Laura Loomer has revealed her dream job in Trump's White House just as the administration escalates its crackdown on international students and elite universities.
	Loomer's tweet came hours after an internal State Department cable revealed that the Trump administration has ordered a freeze on new student visa interviews in anticipation of expanded surveillance protocols.
	The administration plans to implement sweeping new social media screenings for all foreign students seeking to study in the United States.
	Again, just another testament to President Trump's excellent leadership.
	No other president has done this before, and it's really just such a no-brainer.
	Why do we have so many hostile anti-American students from foreign nations in our country?
	President Trump is doing what needs to be done to protect students, American students on these college campuses, and also to protect our national security.
	So, bravo to President Trump, and it's great that they're doing this over at the State Department, too.
	And as I've shown, right, there are some people in the White House and some people in the administration who could use some extra help with vetting, right?
	There seems to be a bit of a vetting crisis.
	And I would love to offer my services to assist in any capacity whatsoever because I support President Trump.
	I support his agenda.
	And I want to make America great again.
	I want to make America safe again.
	And having proper vetting is a great way to do it.
	definitely be interested in assisting with these vetting operations.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	see you Thank you.
	Let's see what people are saying.
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	Let's see.
	Somebody said, did Teddy, Marnie said, did Teddy love his first beach experiment?
	So I took Teddy to the beach the other day, my new puppy, and he didn't really like the water.
	I think because he's a puppy, he was a little scared.
	It was a little wavy and kind of, the waves were a little rough compared to the previous day.
	So I think the waves scared him, but he definitely loved having all that sand to dig in.
	I mean, he loves digging holes in the back of my yard, and I'm always like, no, Teddy, bad boy.
	So, he loved digging in the sand on the beach.
	He really enjoyed that.
	He definitely liked his time at the beach.
	The water, not so much.
	The flaw hustler said they need to be interested in hiring you to vet.
	Maybe.
	Maybe someday.
	Thank you.
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	I'm suing them in my lawsuit against Bill Maher and HBO for defamation.
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	Isn't it funny?
	Isn't it funny how Bill Maher can defame me and falsely accuse me of sleeping with the president and say terrible things about me?
	Horrible things about me.
	Defame my character and then, well, face no consequences.
	And then he wants to demand that everything From the deposition is private and confidential, including the deposition tapes.
	I just think it's so outrageous, but it is what it is, right?
	We'll see what happens.
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