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EP79: LIVE VP DEBATE COVERAGE: JD VANCE VS TIM WALZ
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I'm your host, Laura Lumer.
Tonight is an exciting night.
It's the first vice presidential debate between J.D.
Vance, who of course is President Donald Trump's pick for vice president, and then he is debating Governor Tim Walz of Minnesota, who of course is Kamala Harris's pick for vice president.
So the debate is going to be live in about 10 minutes.
And so we are going to be streaming the entire debate live.
It is on CBS News, but I will be providing my commentary and coverage and fact checking in real time.
And so if you're watching now, please be sure that you repost the Rumble link, rumble.com slash Laura Loomer.
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It's going to be a lot of great coverage tonight, and there's a lot to talk about, and I'm sure that, you know, we're going to see Tim Walz lie.
That's what Kamala Harris and Tim Walz do.
They lie.
The Democrats have nothing but lies on their side.
So things that you can expect to see tonight.
I'm sure Tim Walls is going to attack J.D. Vance for his perceived, I guess what they want to call the Republican Party's war on women.
You're going to see Tim Walls constantly bring up the topic of abortion.
I'm sure that they'll attack J.D. Vance for his comments on childless cat ladies.
Given the ballistic missile attack on Israel today by Iran, you're going to see the Democrats and in this case, Tim Walls try to pivot away from his ties to Hamas and his ties to Iranian proxies.
We know that he has a lot of ties to Islamic jihadists, given his background as the governor of Minnesota, a state where jihadists are rampant.
And there's multiple photographs, as we know, from My own exclusive reporting here on Loomer Unleashed, and you can find those reports on Loomer.com that show Governor Tim Walz with associates of ISIS, associates of Hamas, associates of Hezbollah, and the Muslim Brotherhood in his home state of Minnesota.
So those are just some of my predictions.
I'm sure that maybe we'll see J.D.
Vance bring up the fact that Tim Walz is so radical that not even his own family members will support him and his own brother, another exclusive story that I broke, called Joe Biden and Kamala Harris a third world banana republic.
And that, of course, was posted on Jeff Walls, that's the brother of Tim Walls, his Facebook page the same day that the Biden-Harris DOJ had Donald Trump indicted in his case in Manhattan, New York, which was overseen, of course, by Judge Juan Merchant.
So those are just a few of my predictions tonight.
Let's see what time it is.
Let's see.
Again, if you're watching live, we have about nine minutes left.
Nine minutes left.
So be sure that if you're watching on your phone, watching on your TV, that you repost the live link so that everybody can watch it.
We're going to have a lot of great coverage tonight.
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Our thoughts and prayers are with the people of Israel tonight who are under attack by Iran.
We saw that Iran is now threatening Israel.
They're threatening to eradicate the Jewish people, the Jewish state, after Israel successfully took out the leader of Hezbollah and other officials and top leaders in Hezbollah and Hamas.
And so it's a real shame because tomorrow, of course, is the first day of Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish New Year.
And so to all my Jewish viewers, if you're watching, I want to wish all of you Shana Tova a sweet and happy New Year.
But it's just a shame that the people of Israel, they say majority of the people in Israel are currently hiding out in bomb shelters to escape and really evade all of those ballistic missiles that are crashing down.
I saw a report earlier today that said that Iran spent $300 million on those ballistic missiles that they fired into Israel today.
And no Israelis died, but the single person who did die was a Palestinian.
And so it just goes to show you that the Iranians, they're killing their own people.
They're killing their own people and the people that they claim to support.
They claim to support the Palestinians, okay?
They are supporters and funders of Hamas and Hezbollah.
I believe we have that clip.
We can show that clip momentarily here.
Before we get into the debate coverage tonight, it's really a horrific clip if you haven't seen it.
A Palestinian man just standing underneath a lamppost and then all of a sudden some of the wreckage from one of the Iranian missiles falls on his head and it's so heavy.
You can imagine thousands of pounds of metal just falling on top of somebody's body.
And it landed on his head and it literally decapitated him.
And so I want to warn you that the video that you're about to see is quite graphic, but you should just see the carnage that the Iranian Islamic regime is carrying out.
And of course, these were attacks intended for the Jews, the people of Israel, but there are lots of casualties in war.
And in this case, they ended up killing a Palestinian.
Let's go ahead and play the clip.
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And we saw today that President Donald Trump issued a statement, and he's right.
You know, President Trump has been warning about the fact that we are on the verge of World War III.
He's been talking about this for years now, and he said it last year when he was campaigning in the Republican presidential primary.
There's numerous clips of him talking about how he's the only person who can prevent us from World War III.
And he said that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, of course, have been very easy on Iran.
Iran was broke when President Trump was in the White House, and now they are receiving tons of money.
And I really want to know, how many missiles do you think they were able to purchase with the $16 billion that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris gave them?
I don't know.
Somebody do the math.
I don't know how much those things cost, but $16 billion.
We know that the attacks today cost $300 million.
So Joe Biden, Kamala Harris funding ballistic missile attacks.
And then there was another report I saw posted by Caroline Glick.
I retweeted that.
You can go on my ex feed and you can see that post for yourself.
Let's see if we can get Caroline's tweet pulled up.
Because essentially what she was highlighting is the fact that the United States government, the Biden-Harris regime, is in touch with the Iranian regime, telling them how brutal they can be towards Israel.
So it's like controlling the level of carnage.
Insighting the level of carnage.
I mean, this is very backwards.
This is very twisted.
This is very diabolical to think that our own government is coordinating with the Iranians.
Channel 14 reported that the U.S.
and Iran are negotiating the scope of the strike so that the U.S.
will be able to compel Israel not to retaliate.
Get it?
The Biden-Harris administration is repeatedly telling a U.S.
enemy, you know, the people chanting, death to America, death to America, death to America, holding the signs of our leaders burning on fire.
What level of assault against the U.S.
ally is acceptable?
So, again, Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, they love Iran.
Let's go ahead and play this clip from President Trump, and you can see there's back-to-back clips.
There's three clips, actually.
Let's go ahead and play all three, and then you can see President Trump on three separate occasions talking about Obama has plenty to do with it.
Of course, the fact that they were going to get us into World War Three and their support and emboldening of Islamic jihadists was going to get us into war.
And as Donald Trump always says, there will not be any more Israel left.
Israel will be eradicated.
We'll have another Holocaust unless he gets back in.
Let's go ahead and play this clip.
Obama has plenty to do with it.
I call him Biden's boss.
But he has plenty to do with it.
Very, very, very serious.
We are in very, very grave danger of having a World War III.
And this will be a war.
This will be a war of obliteration.
This will not be a war with, I say, Army tanks going back and forth, shooting at each other.
This is the real deal.
And we have a man that — he can't even walk off a stage.
He walks off a stage.
He finishes his speech.
He looks — oh.
Well, he can't find — he has no idea.
You know, there's always a stare there, a stare here.
You could even walk off the front, jump or something, do something.
He usually walks to the back into a wall.
Yeah.
There's a wall there.
He walks right into a wall.
Can't walk off the stage.
Can't put two sentences together.
And yet, he's negotiating with President Xi of China, who, when I say he's very smart, the press — look at — that's a lot of press back there.
That's a lot.
So, for him to negotiate with President Xi of China is like my high school football team playing the — let's see, what's a good team nowadays?
Philadelphia is good.
You know, they change a little bit.
I used to say New England.
I used to say the Patriots.
I'd love to be able to say the Patriots.
He's a great guy, great coach.
But they're having a little hard time.
What's going on with the Patriots, huh?
But he is, he's a great coach.
He'll figure it out somehow.
He's gonna figure it out.
But that was not a good game last night, was it, huh?
But it's like playing a professional team.
It's ridiculous for him to be negotiating with these people.
These people, I got to know them all.
They're at the top of their game.
They're at the top of their game.
And we have somebody that 30 years ago wasn't at the top of any game.
He wasn't 30 years ago.
And I'm the only person I can say this, I will stop World War III, and we're very close to having World War III.
But all of that was only the beginning.
Here are some of the rather bold agenda items that I will immediately implement when we become the 47th President of the United States.
Before I even arrive at the Oval Office shortly after I win the presidency, I will have the war between Russia and Ukraine settled.
I'll do it in 24 hours.
It's not tough to do.
That's easy compared to... That's easy compared to a lot of things.
No handshaking.
There you have it.
Governor Walz appears to be taking some notes.
J.D.
Vance doing the same as our colleagues.
Maybe he was shaking hands before the cameras came.
That's right.
Well, we have the vice presidential debate coming up in a minute.
All right.
The vice presidential debate is about to start in the next 30 seconds.
And so I'm going to cut to the full screen of the debate that is on CBS News.
And so if you want to repost, we are live right now on rumble.com slash Laura Loomer and also on X. And you will be able to watch the entire vice presidential debate between J.D.
Vance and Tim Walz live right now.
So I'm going to cut away to the debate.
So
Tonight, with just over a month to go until election day, the first and only meeting between the two men who hope to become vice president of the United States.
Democratic Governor Tim Walz of Minnesota and Republican Senator J.D.
Vance of Ohio.
Now this is likely the final debate of this election cycle and voting is already underway in 20 states.
CBS News polling shows this remains a race either presidential candidate could win.
The CBS News vice presidential debate starts now.
Fight for every single vote and we're going to take this country back.
And we are ready to continue to build the future together.
We're going to turn this whole country red with President Donald J. Trump's leadership.
You know what's at the end of this little journey?
Kamala Harris as the next President of the United States.
This is a CBS News Special.
Live from CBS News Headquarters in New York, America Decides.
The Vice Presidential Debate.
Good evening, I'm Nora O'Donnell, and thank you for joining us for tonight's CBS News Vice Presidential Debate.
We want to welcome our viewers on CBS, on other networks here in the U.S.
and around the world.
We have a consequential night ahead, and our focus is the issues that matter to you, the voter.
Let's introduce the candidates.
Minnesota's Democratic Governor, Tim Walz, and Ohio's Republican Senator, J.D.
Katie Vance, tonight, meeting for the first time.
I'm Margaret Brennan.
In order to have a thoughtful and civil debate, these are the rules that both campaigns have agreed to.
Questions will be directed at one candidate, who will have two minutes to respond.
The other candidate will be allowed two minutes for rebuttal.
Then each candidate will get another minute to make further points, with an additional one minute each at the discretion of the moderator.
The primary role of the moderators is to facilitate the debate between the candidates, enforce the rules, and provide the candidates with the opportunity to fact-check claims made by each other.
CBS News reserves the right to mute the candidates' microphones to maintain decorum.
We have not shared the questions or topics with the campaigns.
The stage is set.
Governor, Senator, thank you for joining us.
Let's get started.
Tonight our country is facing several unfolding crises.
The Middle East is on the brink of war.
Americans are suffering from the catastrophic impact of Hurricane Helene.
And now a labor union is 25,000 dock workers from Maine to Texas are picketing.
We're going to begin tonight with the Middle East.
Margaret.
Thank you, Nora.
Earlier today, Iran launched its largest attack yet on Israel, but that attack failed thanks to joint U.S.
and Israeli defensive action.
President Obama has deployed more than 40,000 U.S.
military personnel and assets to that region over the past year to try to prevent a regional war.
Iran is weakened.
But the U.S.
still considers it the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world and it has drastically reduced the time it would take to develop a nuclear weapon.
It is down now to one or two weeks time.
Governor Walz, if you were the final voice in the Situation Room, would you support or oppose a preemptive strike by Israel on Iran?
You have two minutes.
Well, thank you.
And thank you for those joining at home tonight.
Let's keep in mind where this started.
October 7th, Hamas terrorists Massacred over 1,400 Israelis and took prisoners.
Israel's ability to be able to defend itself is absolutely fundamental.
Because his entire constituency are jihadi Muslims in Minnesota and he's friends with...
Gaza.
But the expansion of Israel and its proxies is an absolute fundamental necessity for the United States to have the steady leadership there.
You saw it experienced today where along with our Israeli partners and our coalition able to stop the incoming attack.
But what's fundamental here is that steady leadership is going to matter.
It's clear, and the world saw it on that debate stage a few weeks ago, a nearly 80-year-old Donald Trump talking about crowd sizes is not what we need in this moment.
But it's not just that.
It's those that were closest to Donald Trump that understand how dangerous he is when the world is this dangerous.
His Chief of Staff, John Kelly, said that he was the most flawed human being he'd ever met.
And both of his Secretaries of Defense And his national security advisors said he should be nowhere near the White House.
Now the person closest to them, Donald Trump, said he's unfit for the highest office.
That was Senator Vance.
What we've seen out of Vice President Harris is we've seen steady leadership.
We've seen a calmness that is able to be able to draw on the coalitions to bring them together.
Understanding that our allies matter.
When our allies see Donald Trump turn towards Vladimir Putin, turn towards North Korea, when we start to see that type of fickleness around holding the coalitions together, we will stay committed.
And as the Vice President said today is, we will protect our forces and our allied forces and there will be consequences.
Governor, your time is up.
Senator Vance, the same question.
Would you support or oppose a preemptive strike by Israel on Iran?
You have two minutes.
So, Margaret, I want to answer the question.
First of all, thanks, Governor.
Thanks to CBS for hosting the debate.
And thanks, most importantly, to the American people who are watching this evening and caring enough about this country to pay attention to this vice presidential debate.
I want to answer the question, but I want to actually give an introduction to myself a little bit because I recognize a lot of Americans don't know who either one of us are.
I was raised in a working class family.
My mother required food assistance for periods of her life.
My grandmother required Social Security help to raise me.
And she raised me in part because my own mother struggled with addiction for a big chunk of my early life.
I went to college on the GI Bill after I enlisted in the Marine Corps and served in Iraq.
And so I stand here asking to be your Vice President with extraordinary gratitude for this country, for the American dream that made it possible for me to live my dreams.
And most importantly, I know that a lot of you are worried about the chaos in the world and the feeling that the American dream is unattainable.
I want to try to convince you tonight, over the next 90 minutes, that if we get better leadership in the White House, if we get Donald Trump back in the White House, the American Dream is going to be attainable once again.
Now, to answer this particular question, we have to remember that as much as Governor Walz just accused Donald Trump of being an agent of chaos, Donald Trump actually delivered stability in the world, and he did it by establishing effective deterrence.
People were afraid of stepping out of line.
Iran, which launched this attack, has received over a hundred billion dollars in unfrozen assets thanks to the Kamala Harris administration.
What do they use that money for?
They use it to buy weapons that they're now launching against our allies, and God forbid, potentially, launching against the United States as well.
Donald Trump recognized that for people to fear the United States, you needed peace through strength.
They needed to recognize that if they got out of line, the United States global leadership would put stability and peace back in the world.
Now, you asked about a preemptive strike, Margaret, and I want to answer the question.
Look, it is up to Israel what they think they need to do to keep their country safe.
And we should support our allies wherever they are when they're fighting the bad guys.
I think that's the right approach to take with the Israel question.
Thank you, Senator.
Governor Walz, do you care to respond to any of the allegations?
Well, look, Donald Trump was in office.
We'll sometimes hear a revisionist history, but when Donald Trump was in office, it was Donald Trump who we had a coalition of nations that had boxed Iran's nuclear program in, the inability to advance it.
Donald Trump pulled that program and put nothing else in its place.
So Iran is closer to a nuclear weapon than they were before because of Donald Trump's fickle leadership.
And when Iran shot down an American aircraft in international airspace, Donald Trump tweeted, because that's the standard diplomacy of Donald Trump.
And when Iranian missiles did fall near U.S.
troops and they received traumatic brain injuries, Donald Trump wrote it off as headaches.
Look, our allies understand that Donald Trump is fickle.
He will go to whoever has the most flattery or where it makes sense to him.
Steady leadership like you witnessed today, like you witnessed in April.
Both Iranian attacks were repelled.
Our coalition is strong and we need the steady leadership that Kamala Harris is providing.
Senator Vance, the U.S.
did have a diplomatic deal with Iran to temporarily pause parts of its nuclear program, and President Trump did exit that deal.
He recently said, just five days ago, the U.S.
must now make a diplomatic deal with Iran because the consequences are impossible.
Did he make a mistake?
You have one minute.
Well, first of all, Margaret, diplomacy is not a dirty word.
But I think that's something that Governor Walz just said is quite extraordinary.
You yourself just said Iran is as close to a nuclear weapon today as they have ever been.
And Governor Walz, you blame Donald Trump.
Who has been the vice president for the last three and a half years?
And the answer is you're running mate, not mine.
Donald Trump consistently made the world more secure.
Now, we talk about the sequence of events that led us to where we are right now.
And you can't ignore October the 7th, which I appreciate Governor Walz bringing up.
But when did Iran and Hamas and their proxies attack Israel?
It was during the administration of Kamala Harris.
So Governor Walz can criticize Donald Trump's tweets.
But effective, smart diplomacy and peace through strength is how you bring stability back to a very broken world.
Donald Trump has already done it once before.
Ask yourself at home, when was the last time?
I'm 40 years old.
When was the last time that an American president didn't have a major conflict breakout?
The only answer is during the four years that Donald Trump was president.
Gentlemen, we have a lot to get to.
Nora?
Margaret, thank you.
Let's turn now to Hurricane Helene.
The storm could become one of the deadliest on record.
More than 160 people are dead and hundreds more are missing.
Scientists say climate change makes these hurricanes larger, stronger, and more deadly because of the historic rainfall.
Senator Vance, according to CBS News polling, 7 in 10 Americans and more than 60% of Republicans under the age of 45 favor the U.S.
taking steps to try and reduce climate change.
Senator, what responsibility would the Trump administration have to try and reduce the impact of climate change?
I'll give you two minutes.
Sure, so first of all let's start with the hurricane because it's an unbelievable, unspeakable human tragedy.
I just saw today actually a photograph of two grandparents on a roof with a six-year-old child and it was the last photograph ever taken of them because the roof collapsed and those innocent people lost their lives and I'm sure Governor Walz joins me in saying our hearts go out to those innocent people, our prayers go out to them and we want as robust and aggressive as a federal response as we can get to save as many lives as possible and then of course afterwards to help the people in those communities He is not.
He is not carrying himself well.
But look you guys, everything that I told you in the beginning is coming true.
I told you that they were going to try to pretend to be tough on Iran.
You asked about climate change.
I think this is a very important issue.
Look, a lot of people are just finally worried about all these crazy weather patterns.
I think it's important for us, first of all, to say Donald Trump and I support clean air, clean water.
We want the environment to be cleaner and safer.
But one of the things that I've noticed, some of our Democratic friends talking a lot about, is a concern about carbon emissions.
This idea that carbon emissions drives all of the climate change.
Well, let's just say that's true.
Just for the sake of argument, so we're not arguing about weird science, let's just say that's true.
Well, if you believe that, what would you want to do?
The answer is that you'd want to reshore as much American manufacturing as possible, and you'd want to produce as much energy as possible in the United States of America, because we're the cleanest economy in the entire world.
What have Kamala Harris's policies actually led to?
More energy production in China, more manufacturing overseas, more doing business in some of the dirtiest parts of the entire world.
And when I say that, I mean the amount of carbon emissions they're doing per unit of economic output.
So if we actually care about getting cleaner air and cleaner water, the best thing to do is to double down and invest in American workers and the American people.
And unfortunately, Kamala Harris has done exactly the opposite.
Governor Walz, you have two minutes to respond.
Well, we got close to an agreement because all those things are happening.
Look, first of all, it is a horrific tragedy with this hurricane, and my heart goes out to the folks that are down there in contact with the governors.
I serve as Co-chair of the Council of Governors as we work together on these emergency managements.
Governors know no partisanship.
They work together to solve the governors and the emergency responders on the ground.
Those happen on the front end.
The federal government comes in, makes sure they're there to that we recover, but we're still in that phase where we need to make sure that they're staying there, staying focused.
Now look, coming back to the climate change issue, there's no doubt this thing roared onto the scene faster and stronger than anything we've seen.
Senator Vance has said that there's a climate problem in the past.
Donald Trump called it a hoax and then joked that these things would make more beachfront property to be able to invest in.
What we've seen out of the Harris administration now, the Biden-Harris administration, is we've seen this investment.
We've seen massive investments.
The biggest in global history that we've seen in the Inflation Reduction Act has created jobs all across the country.
2,000 in Jeffersonville, Ohio, taking the EV technology that we invented and making it here.
200,000 jobs across the country.
The largest solar manufacturing plant in North America sets in Minnesota.
But my farmers know climate change is real.
They've seen 500-year droughts, 500-year floods back to back.
But what they're doing is adapting, and this has allowed them to tell me, look, I harvest corn, harvest, soybean, harvest.
I don't like talking loud during these debates because I like being able to let you guys hear what they have to say.
But you can follow my live tweets because I'm posting my reactions live.
for us is to continue to move forward that climate change is real.
Reducing our impact is absolutely critical, but this is not a false choice.
You can do that at the same time you're creating the jobs that we're seeing all across the country.
That's exactly what this administration has done.
We are seeing us becoming an energy superpower for the future, not just the current.
And that's what absolutely makes sense.
And then we start thinking about how do we mitigate these disasters.
Thank you.
Senator, I want to give you an opportunity to respond there.
The governor mentioned that President Trump has called climate change a hoax.
Do you agree?
Well look, what the President has said is that if the Democrats, in particular Kamala Harris and her leadership, if they really believe that climate change is serious, what they would be doing is more manufacturing and more energy production in the United States of America, and that's not what they're doing.
So clearly Kamala Harris herself doesn't believe her own rhetoric on this.
If she did, she would actually agree with Donald Trump's energy policies.
Now, something Governor Walz said I think is important to touch upon, because when we talk about clean energy, I think that's a slogan that often the Democrats will use here.
I'm talking of course about the Democratic leadership.
And the real issue is that if you're spending hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars of American taxpayer money on solar panels that are made in China, number one, you're going to make the economy dirtier.
We should be making more of those solar panels here in the United States of America.
Senator, your time is up.
but a lot of them are being made overseas in China, especially the components that go into those solar panels.
So if you really want to make the environment cleaner, you've got to invest in more energy production.
We haven't built a nuclear facility, I think, one in the past 40 years.
Natural gas, we've got to invest more in it.
Kamala Harris has done the opposite.
That's raised energy prices and also meant that we're doing this by the climate.
Senator, your time is up.
Governor, would you like to respond?
Well, look, we're producing more natural gas than we ever have.
There's no moratorium on that.
We're producing more oil.
But the folks know, and like I said again, these are not liberal folks.
These are not folks that are Green New Deal folks.
These are farmers that have been drought one year, massive flooding the next year.
They understand that it makes sense.
Look, our number one export cannot be topsoil from erosion from these massive storms.
We saw it in Minnesota this summer.
And thinking about how do we respond to that, we're thinking ahead on this.
And what Kamala Harris has been able to do in Minnesota, we're starting to weatherproof some of these things.
The infrastructure law that was passed allows us to think about mitigation in the future.
How do we make sure that we're protecting by burying our power lines?
How do we make sure that we're protecting lakefronts and things that we're seeing more and more of?
But to call it a hoax and to take the oil company executives to Mar-a-Lago, say, give me money for my campaign, And I'll let you do whatever you want.
We can be smarter about that, and an all-above-energy policy is exactly what she's doing, creating those jobs right here.
Governor, your time is up.
The overwhelming consensus among scientists is that the Earth's climate is warming at an unprecedented rate.
Margaret.
Thank you, Nora.
We're going to turn now to immigration.
The crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border consistently ranks as one of the top issues for American voters.
Senator Vance.
Your campaign is pledging to carry out the largest mass deportation plan in American history and to use the U.S.
military to do so.
Could you be more specific about exactly how this will work?
For example, would you deport parents who have entered the U.S.
illegally and separate them from any of their children who were born on U.S.
soil?
You have two minutes.
So first of all, Margaret, before we talk about deportations, we have to stop the bleeding.
We have a historic immigration crisis because Kamala Harris started and said that she wanted to undo all of Donald Trump's border policies.
94 executive orders suspending deportations, decriminalizing illegal aliens, Massively increasing the asylum fraud that exists in our system.
That has opened the floodgates.
And what it's meant is that a lot of fentanyl is coming into our country.
I had a mother who struggled with opioid addiction and has gotten clean.
I don't want people who are struggling with addiction to be deprived of their second chance because Kamala Harris let in fentanyl into our communities at record levels.
So you've got to stop the bleeding.
You've got to reimplement Donald Trump's border policies.
Build the wall.
Reimplement deportations.
And that gets me to your point, Margaret, about what do we actually do?
So we've got 20, 25 million illegal aliens who are here in the country.
What do we do with them?
I think the first thing that we do is we start with the criminal migrants.
About a million of those people have committed some form of crime in addition to crossing the border illegally.
I think you start with deportations on those folks.
And then I think you make it harder for illegal aliens to undercut the wages of American workers.
A lot of people will go home if they can't work for less than minimum wage in our own country.
And by the way, that'll be really good for our workers who just want to earn a fair wage for doing a good day's work.
And the final point, Margaret, is you ask about family separation.
Right now, in this country, Margaret, we have 320,000 children that the Department of Homeland Security has effectively lost.
Some of them have been sex trafficked.
Some of them, hopefully, are at homes with their families.
Some of them have been used as drug trafficking mules.
The real family separation policy in this country is, unfortunately, Kamala Harris's wide-open southern border.
And I'd ask my fellow Americans to remember, when she came into office, she said she was going to do this.
Real leadership would be saying, you know what?
I screwed up.
We're going to go back to Donald Trump's border policy.
I wish that she would do that.
It would be good for all of us.
Governor, do you care to respond to any of those specific allegations, including that the vice president is, quote, letting in fentanyl?
We are live right now, so please be sure that you're reposting the live link on X and Rumble.
Rumble.com slash Laura Loomer.
Fentanyl is not true, but I will say about this, about the fentanyl, because this is a crisis of this, the opioid crisis.
And the good news on this is the last 12 months saw the largest decrease in opioid deaths in our nation's history.
30% 30% decrease in Ohio.
But there's still more work to do.
But let's go back to this on immigration.
Kamala Harris was the Attorney General of the largest state and border state in California.
She's the only person in this race who prosecuted transnational gangs for human trafficking and drug interventions.
But look, we all want to solve this.
Most of us want to solve this.
And that is the United States Congress.
That's the Border Patrol agents.
That's the Chamber of Commerce.
That's most Americans out here.
That's why we had the fairest and the toughest bill on immigration that this nation's seen.
It was crafted by a conservative senator from Oklahoma, James Lankford.
I know him.
He's super conservative, but he's a man of principle.
Wants to get it done.
Democrats and Republicans worked on this piece of legislation.
The Border Patrol said, this is what we need in here.
These are the experts.
We've seen that we've confronted Senator Tammy Baldwin, Senator Bob Casey.
We've confronted Jackie Rosen, Elisa Slotkin.
We asked them, do you support Kamala Harris' plan to legalize fentanyl?
And then they say, nothing.
They walk inside.
Donald Trump said no.
Told them to vote against it because it gives him a campaign issue.
It gives him to, what would Donald Trump talk about if we actually did some of these things?
And they need to be done by the legislature.
You can't just do this through the executive branch.
So look, we have the options to do this.
Donald Trump had four years.
He had four years to do this.
And he promised you, America, how easy it would be.
I'll build you a big, beautiful wall, and Mexico will pay for it.
Less than 2% of that wall got built, and Mexico didn't pay a dime.
But here we are again, nine years after he came down that escalator.
Dehumanizing people and telling them what he was going to do.
As far as a deportation plan, at one point, Senator Vance said it was so unworkable to be laughable.
So, that's where we're at.
Pass the bill, she'll sign it.
Governor, your time is up.
Senator, the question was will you separate parents from their children even if their kids are U.S.
citizens?
You have one minute.
Margaret, my point is that we already have massive child separations thanks to Kamala Harris's open border.
I didn't accuse Kamala Harris of inviting drug mules.
I said that she enabled the Mexican drug cartels to operate freely in this country and we know that they use children as drug mules and it is a disgrace and it has to stop.
Look, I think what Tim said just doesn't pass the smell test.
For three years, Kamala Harris went out bragging that she was going to undo Donald Trump's border policy.
She did exactly that.
We had a record number of illegal crossings.
We had a record number of fentanyl coming into our country.
And now, Well, now that she's running for president, or a few months before, she says that somehow she got religion and cared a lot about a piece of legislation.
The only thing that she did when she became the vice president, when she became the appointed border czar, was to undo 94 Donald Trump executive actions that opened the border.
This problem is leading to massive problems in the United States of America.
Parents who can't afford healthcare, schools that are overwhelmed, it's got to stop and it will when Donald Trump is president.
Senator, your time is up.
Governor, what about our CBS News polling, which does show that a majority of Americans, more than 50%, support mass deportations?
Look, we fixed this issue with a bill that is necessary, but the issue on this is, this is what happens when you don't want to solve it.
You demonize it.
And we saw this, and Senator Vance, and it surprises me on this.
Demonize it?
Talking about and saying, I will create stories to bring attention to this.
They let 13,000 murderers in and 15,000 rapists.
They deserve to be demonized.
The Republican governor said it's not true.
Don't do it.
There's consequences for this.
There's consequences.
We could come together.
Senator Lankford did it.
We could come together and solve this if we didn't let Donald Trump continue to make it an issue.
And the consequences in Springfield were the governor had to send State law enforcement to escort kindergartners to school.
I believe Senator Vance wants to solve this, but by standing with Donald Trump and not working together to find a solution, it becomes a talking point.
And when it becomes a talking point like this, we dehumanize and villainize other human beings.
Governor, your time is up.
Senator, I'll give you one minute.
They're eating the dogs!
They're eating the cats!
Let me just ask you the question first.
The governor has made the point, and I think as a sitting lawmaker, you know that Congress controls the purse strings and any funding.
So you have said repeatedly that Donald Trump would, through executive action, solve this.
Do you disagree?
That Congress controls the purse strings and would need to support many of the changes that you would actually want to implement.
You have one minute.
Look, Margaret, first of all, the gross majority of what we need to do at the southern border is just empowering law enforcement to do their job.
I've been to the southern border more than our borders are.
Kamala Harris has been and it's actually heartbreaking.
Because the Border Patrol agents, they just want to be empowered to do their job.
Of course, additional resources would help, but most of this is about the President and the Vice President empowering our law enforcement to say, if you try to come across the border illegally, you've got to stay in Mexico, you've got to go back through proper channels.
Now, Governor Walz brought up the community of Springfield, and he's very worried about the things that I've said in Springfield.
Look, in Springfield, Ohio, and in communities all across this country, you've got schools that are overwhelmed, you've got hospitals that are overwhelmed, you've got housing that is totally unaffordable because we brought in millions of illegal immigrants to compete with Americans for scarce homes.
The people that I'm most worried about in Springfield, Ohio, are the American citizens who have had their lives destroyed by Kamala Harris's open border.
It is a disgrace, Tim.
And I actually think, I agree with you, I think you want to solve this problem, but I don't think that Kamala Harris does.
Senator, your time is up.
Governor, you have one minute to respond.
Yeah, well, it is law enforcement that asked for the bill.
They helped craft it.
They're the ones that supported it.
It was, that's because they know we need to do this.
Look, this issue of continuing to bring this up, of not dealing with it, Blaming migrants for everything.
On housing, we could talk a little bit about Wall Street speculators buying up housing and making them less affordable.
But it becomes a blame.
Look, this bill also gives the money necessary to adjudicate.
I agree, it should not take seven years for an asylum claim to be done.
This bill gets it done in 90 days.
Then you start to make a difference in this, and you start to adhere to what we know, American principles.
I don't talk about my faith a lot.
But Matthew 2540 talks about, to the least amongst us you do unto me.
I think that's true of most Americans.
They simply want order to it.
This bill does it, it's funded, it's supported by the people who do it, and it lets us keep our dignity about how we treat other people.
Thank you, Governor.
And just to clarify for our viewers, Springfield, Ohio, does have a large number of Haitian migrants who have legal status, temporary protected status.
Well, Margaret, but.
Thank you.
Senator, we have so much to get to.
Margaret, I think it's important because.
We're going to turn out of the economy.
Thank you.
Margaret, the rules were that you guys weren't going to fact check, and since you're fact checking me, I think it's important to say what's actually going on.
So there's an application called the CBP One App, where you can go on as an illegal migrant, apply for asylum, or apply for parole, and be granted legal status at the wave of a Kamala Harris open border wand.
That is not a person coming in, applying for a green card, and waiting for 10 years Thank you, Senator.
Thank you, Senator, for describing the legal process.
We have so much to get to, Senator.
Those laws have been on the books since 1990.
We have so much to get to, Senator.
Those laws have been on the books since 1990.
Thank you, gentlemen.
The CBP one app has not been on the books since 1990.
It's something that Kamala Harris created for.
Gentlemen, the audience can't hear you because your mics are cut.
We have so much we want to get to.
Thank you for explaining the legal process.
Nora.
Thank you, Margaret.
I'm real.
The economy is a top concern for voters.
Each of your campaigns has released an economic plan, so let's talk about the specifics.
Vice President Harris unveiled a plan that includes billions in tax credits for manufacturing.
Housing and a renewed child tax credit.
The Wharton School says your proposals will increase the nation's deficit by 1.2 trillion dollars.
How would you pay for that without ballooning the deficit?
Governor, I'll give you two minutes.
Yeah, thank you.
And Kamala Harris and I do believe in the middle class because that's where we come from.
We both grew up in that, we understand.
So those of you out there listening tonight, you're hearing a lot of stuff back and forth and it's good, it's healthy, that's what this is supposed to happen.
You should be listening, how's this going to impact me?
The bold forward plan that Kamala Harris put out there is one is talking about this housing issue.
The one thing is there's three million new houses proposed under this plan with down payment assistance on the front end to get you in a house.
A house is much more than just an asset to be traded somewhere.
It's foundational to where you're at.
And then making sure that the things you buy every day, whether they be prescription drugs or other things, that there's fairness in that.
Look, the $35 insulin is a good thing, but it cost $5 to make insulin.
They were charging $800 before this law went into effect.
As far as the housing goes, I've seen it in Minnesota.
12% more houses in Minneapolis, prices went down on rent 4%.
It's working.
And then making sure tax cuts go to the middle class.
$6,000 child tax credit, we have one in Minnesota, reduces Childhood poverty by a third.
We save money in the long run and we do the right thing for families.
And then getting businesses off the ground.
The law as it stands right now is $5,000 tax credit for small business.
Literally.
Increasing that to $50,000.
Now this is a philosophical difference.
She's literally under investigation for allowing her children in Minnesota to starve.
He took folks to Mar-a-Lago, said you're rich as hell, I'm going to give you a tax cut.
He gave the tax cuts that predominantly went to the top class.
What happened there was an $8 trillion increase in the national debt, the largest ever.
Now he's proposing a 20% consumption or sales tax on everything we bring in.
Everyone agrees, including businesses, it would be destabilizing it, it would increase inflation and potentially lead to a recession.
Look, this is simple for you.
Where are we going?
Kamala Harris has said to do the things she wants to do.
We'll just ask the wealthiest to pay their fair share.
When you do that, our system works best.
More people are participating in it, and folks have the things that they need.
Senator, I want to give you a moment to respond on that.
But similarly, the Wharton School has done an analysis of the Trump plan and says it would increase the nation's deficit by $5.8 trillion.
My question is the same for you.
How do you pay for all that without ballooning the deficit?
I'll give you two minutes.
Well, first of all, you're going to hear a lot from Tim Walz this evening, and you just heard it in the answer.
A lot of what Kamala Harris proposes to do, and some of it, I'll be honest with you, it even sounds pretty good.
Here's what you won't hear, is that Kamala Harris has already done it.
Because she's been the Vice President for three and a half years, she had the opportunity to enact all of these great policies, and what she's actually done instead is drive the cost of food higher by 25%.
Drive the cost of housing higher by about 60%.
Open the American southern border and make middle class life unaffordable for a large number of Americans.
If Kamala Harris has such great plans for how to address middle class problems, then she ought to do them now.
Not when asking for a promotion, but in the job the American people gave her three and a half years ago.
And the fact that she isn't tells you a lot about how much you can trust her actual plans.
Now, Donald Trump's economic plan is not just a plan, but it's also a record.
A lot of those same economists attack Donald Trump's plans and they have PhDs, but they don't have common sense and they don't have wisdom because Donald Trump's economic policies to deliver the highest take home pay in a generation in this country.
One point five percent inflation and to boot peace and security all over the world.
So when people say that Donald Trump's economic plan doesn't make sense, I say look at the record.
He delivered rising take-home pay for American workers.
Now Tim admirably admits...
Look at what was so different about Donald Trump's tax cuts, even from previous Republican tax cut plans, is that a lot of those resources went to giving more take home pay to middle class and working class Americans.
It was passed in 2017 and you saw an economic boom unlike we've seen in a generation in this country.
That is a record that I'm proud to run on and we're going to get back to that common sense wisdom so that you can afford to live the American dream again.
I know a lot of you are struggling.
I know a lot of you are worried about paying the bills.
It's going to stop when Donald Trump brings back common sense to this country.
Governor, do you want to respond to that?
What has Kamala Harris done for the middle class?
Yeah, well, Kamala Harris's day one was Donald Trump's failure on COVID that led to the collapse of our economy.
We were already before COVID in a manufacturing recession, but 10 million people out of work, largest percentage since the Great Depression.
Nine million jobs closed on that.
That was day one.
Whether it was the Infrastructure Act or other things, we moved.
Now, you made a question about experts said this.
I've made a note of this.
Economists can't be trusted.
Science can't be trusted.
National security folks can't be trusted.
Look, if you're going to be president, You don't have all the answers.
Donald Trump believes he does.
My pro tip of the day is this.
If you need heart surgery, listen to the people at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota, not Donald Trump.
And the same thing goes with this.
And I ask you out there, teachers, nurses, truck drivers, whatever.
How is it fair that you're paying your taxes every year and Donald Trump hasn't paid any federal tax in the last 15 years?
In the last year as president.
That's what's wrong with the system.
There's a way around it and he's bragged about that.
We're just asking for fairness in it and that's all you want.
You have a minute.
Governor, you say trust the experts.
But those same experts for 40 years said that if we shipped our manufacturing base off to China, we'd get cheaper goods.
They lied about that.
They said if we shipped our industrial base off to other countries, to Mexico and elsewhere, it would make the middle class stronger.
They were wrong about that.
They were wrong about the idea that if we made America less self-reliant, less self-productive in our own nation, that it would somehow make us better off.
And they were wrong about it.
And for the first time in a generation, Donald Trump had the wisdom and the courage to say to that bipartisan consensus, we're not doing it anymore.
We're bringing American manufacturing back.
We're unleashing American energy.
We're going to make more of our own stuff.
And this isn't just an economic issue.
I've got three beautiful little kids at home, seven, four, and two, and I love them very much and I hope they're in bed right now.
But look, so many of the drugs, the pharmaceuticals that we put in the bodies of our children are manufactured by nations that hate us.
This has to stop.
And we're not going to stop it by listening to experts.
We're going to stop it by listening to common sense wisdom, which is what Donald Trump governed on.
Senator, your time is up.
Governor Walz, can you address that?
I mean, voters say they trust Donald Trump on the economy more.
Why?
If you're listening tonight and you want billionaires to get tax cuts, you heard what the numbers were.
I'm a union guy on this.
I'm not a guy who wanted to ship things overseas, but I understand that, look, we produce soybeans and corn.
We need to have fair trading partners.
That's something that we believe in.
I think the thing that most concerns me on this is, is Donald Trump was the guy who created the largest trade deficit in American history with China.
So the rhetoric is good.
Much of what the senator said right there, I'm in agreement with him on this.
I watched it happen too.
I watched it to my communities, and we talked about that.
But we had People undercutting the right to collectively bargain.
We had right-to-work states made it more difficult.
We had companies that were willing to ship it over.
And we saw people profit.
Folks that are venture capital in some cases, putting money into companies that were overseas.
We're in agreement that we bring those home.
The issue is Donald Trump is talking about it.
Kamala Harris has a record 250,000 more manufacturing jobs just out of the IRA.
May I respond to that?
Yes.
I appreciate that.
If you notice, what Governor Walz just did is he said, first of all, Donald Trump has to listen to the experts.
And then when he acknowledged that the experts screwed up, he said, well, Donald Trump didn't do nearly as good of a job as the statistics show that he did.
So what Tim Walz is doing, and honestly, Tim, I think you've got a tough job here, because you've got to play whack-a-mole.
You've got to pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver rising take-home pay, which of course he did.
You've got to pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver lower inflation, which of course he did.
And then you've simultaneously got to defend Kamala Harris's atrocious economic record, which has made gas, groceries, and housing unaffordable for American citizens.
I was raised by a woman who would sometimes go into medical debt so that she could put food on the table in our household.
I know what it's like to not be able to afford the things that you need to afford.
We can do so much better.
To all of you watching, we can get back to an America that's affordable again.
We just got to get back to common sense economic principles.
I hope we have a conversation on health care then.
Senator, Governor.
Please.
Thank you.
Margaret.
We have a lot to get to ahead, gentlemen, on many topics, but right now I want to talk about personal qualifications.
The vice president is often the last voice the president hears before making consequential decisions.
We want to ask you about your leadership qualities.
Governor Walz.
You said you were in Hong Kong during the deadly Tiananmen Square protests in the spring of 1989.
But Minnesota public radio and other media outlets are reporting that you actually didn't travel to Asia until August of that year.
Can you explain that discrepancy?
Yeah, well, and to the folks out there who didn't get at the top of this, look, I grew up in small rural Nebraska, a town of 400, a town that you rode your bike with your buddies until the streetlights come on, and I'm proud of that service.
I joined the National Guard at 17, worked on family farms, and then I used the GI Bill to become a teacher.
Passion about it.
A young teacher.
My first year out, I got the opportunity in the summer of 89 to travel to China.
35 years ago, be able to do that.
I came back home And then started a program to take young people there.
We would take basketball teams, we would take baseball teams, we would take dancers, and we would go back and forth to China.
The issue for that was, was to try and learn.
Now look, my community knows who I am.
They saw where I was at.
They, look, I will be the first to tell you, I have poured my heart into my community, I've tried to do the best I can, but I've not been perfect, and I'm a knucklehead at times.
But it's always been about that.
Those same people elected me to Congress.
For twelve years.
And in Congress, I was one of the most bipartisan people.
Working on things like farm bills that we got done.
Working on veterans benefits.
And then the people of Minnesota were able to elect me to governor twice.
So look, my commitment has been from the beginning.
To make sure that I'm there for the people.
To make sure that I get this right.
I will say more than anything.
Many times I will talk a lot, I will get caught up in the rhetoric, but being there, the impact it made, the difference it made in my life, I learned a lot about China.
I hear the critiques of this.
I would make the case that Donald Trump should have come on one of those trips with us.
I guarantee you he wouldn't be...
Praising Xi Jinping about COVID, and I guarantee you he wouldn't start a trade war that he ends up losing.
So this is about trying to understand the world.
It's about trying to do the best you can for your community, and then it's putting yourself out there and letting your folks understand what it is.
My commitment, whether it be through teaching, which I was good at, or whether it was being a good soldier, or was being a good member of Congress, those are the things that I think are the values that people care about.
The question was, can you explain the discrepancy?
All I said on this was, is I got there that summer and misspoke on this.
So I will just, that's what I've said.
So I was in Hong Kong and China during the democracy protest went in.
And from that, I learned a lot of what needed to be in governance.
Thank you Governor.
Senator Vance, in 2016 you called your running mate Donald Trump unfit for the nation's highest office and you said he could be America's Hitler.
I know you've said, you've been asked many times, and you've said you regret those comments.
And explained you then voted for Donald Trump in 2020.
But the Washington Post reported new messages last week in which you also disparaged Trump's economic record while he was president.
Writing to someone in 2020, quote, Trump thoroughly failed to deliver his economic populism.
You're now his running mate, and you've shifted many of your policy stances to align with his.
If you become vice president, why should Americans trust that you will give Donald Trump the advice he needs to hear, and not just the advice he wants to hear?
You have two minutes.
Well, first of all, Margaret, because I've always been open.
And sometimes, of course, I've disagreed with the President, but I've also been extremely open about the fact that I was wrong about Donald Trump.
I was wrong, first of all, because I believed some of the media stories that turned out to be dishonest fabrications of his record.
But most importantly, Donald Trump delivered for the American people.
Rising wages, rising take-home pay, an economy that worked for normal Americans, a secure southern border, a lot of things, frankly, that I didn't think he'd be able to deliver on.
And yeah, when you screw up, when you misspeak, when you get something wrong and you change your mind, you ought to be honest with the American people about it.
It's one of the reasons, Margaret, why I've done so many interviews is because I think it's important to actually explain to the American people where I come down on the issues and what change.
Now, you pointed out some messages from 2020.
Margaret, I've been extremely consistent that I think there were a lot of things that we could have done better in the Trump administration the first round.
if Congress was doing its job.
I strongly believe, and I've been a United States Senator, that Congress is not just a high-class debating society.
It's not just a forum for senators and congressmen to whine about problems.
It's a forum to govern.
So there were a lot of things on the border, on tariffs, for example, where I think that we could have done so much more if the Republican Congress and the Democrats in Congress had been a little bit better about how they governed the country.
They were so obsessed with impeaching Donald Trump, they couldn't actually govern.
And I want to talk about this tariff issue in particular, Margaret, because Tim just accused this of being a national sales tax.
Look, the one thing, and you're probably surprised to hear me praising Joe Biden, but the one thing that Joe Biden did is he continued some of the Trump tariffs that protected American manufacturing jobs.
And it's the one issue, the most pro-worker part of the Biden administration, it's the one issue where Kamala Harris has run away from Joe Biden's record.
Think about this.
If you're trying to employ slave laborers in China at $3 a day, you're going to do that and undercut the wages of American workers Unless our country stands up for itself and says you're not accessing our markets unless you're paying middle-class Americans a fair wage.
Senator, your time is up.
Nora?
Thank you.
Now to the issue of reproductive rights.
Governor Walz, after Roe vs. Wade was overturned, you signed a bill into law that made Minnesota one of the least restrictive states in the nation when it comes to abortion.
Former President Trump said in the last debate that you believe abortion, quote, in the ninth month is absolutely fine.
Yes or no?
Is that what you support?
I'll give you two minutes.
That's not what the bill says, but look, this issue is what's on everyone's mind.
You dodged the question!
He dodged it.
He brags about how great it was that he put the judges in and overturned Roe v. Wade.
He won't say whether he thinks that 9-month abortions are bad.
And then he tells us, oh, we send it to the states.
It's a beautiful thing.
Oh my God.
Amanda Zaworski would disagree with you on it's a beautiful thing.
This is crazy.
A young bride in Texas waiting for their child at 18 weeks.
She has a complication, a tear in the membrane.
She needs to go in.
Shannon, did you see this?
The medical care at that point needs to be decided by the doctor.
And that would have been an abortion.
But in Texas, that would have put them in legal jeopardy.
She went home, got sepsis, nearly dies, and now she may have difficulty having children.
Or, in Kentucky, Hadley Duvall, a 12-year-old child, raped and impregnated by her stepfather.
Those are horrific.
Now, when got asked about that, Senator Vance said, two wrongs don't make a right.
There is no right in this.
So in Minnesota, what we did was restore Roe versus Wade.
We made sure that we put Women in charge of their health care.
But look, if you don't know Amanda or a Hadley, you soon will.
Their Project 2025 is going to have a registry of pregnancies.
It's going to make it more difficult, if not impossible, to get contraception and limit access, if not eliminate access to infertility treatments.
Wow, he literally just dodged the question.
Infertility treatments are why I have a child.
That's nobody else's business, but those things are being proposed.
And the catch-all on this is, is well, the states will decide.
What's right for Texas might not be right for Washington.
That's not how this works.
This is basic human rights.
We have seen...
Maternal mortality skyrocket in Texas, outpacing many other countries in the world.
This is about healthcare.
In Minnesota, we are ranked first in healthcare for a reason.
We trust women.
We trust doctors.
Senator, do you want to respond to the governor's claim?
Will you create a federal pregnancy monitoring agency?
No, Norah, certainly we won't.
I want to talk about this issue because I know a lot of Americans care about it and I know a lot of Americans don't agree with everything that I've ever said on this topic.
I grew up in a working class family in a neighborhood where I knew a lot of young women who had unplanned pregnancies and decided to terminate those pregnancies because they feel like they didn't have any other options.
One of them is actually very dear to me.
And I know she's watching tonight and I love you.
And she told me something a couple of years ago that she felt like if she hadn't had that abortion, that it would have destroyed her life because she was in an abusive relationship.
And I think that what I take from that as a Republican who proudly wants to protect innocent life in this country, who proudly wants to protect the vulnerable, is that my party, we've got to do so much better of a job at earning the American people's trust back on this we've got to do so much better of a job at earning the American people's trust back on this issue where they frankly just don't trust us.
And I think that's one of the things that Donald Trump and I are endeavoring to do.
I want us as a Republican Party to be pro-family in the fullest sense of the word.
I want us to support fertility treatments.
I want us to make it easier for moms to afford to have babies.
I want to make it easier for young families to afford a home so they can afford a place to raise that family.
I think there's so much that we can do on the public policy front just to give women more options.
Now, of course, Donald Trump has been very clear that on the abortion policy specifically, that we have a big country and it's diverse.
And California has a different viewpoint on this than Georgia.
Georgia has a different viewpoint from Arizona.
And the proper way to handle this, as messy as democracy sometimes is, is to let voters make these decisions.
Let the individual states make their abortion policy.
And I think that's what makes the most sense.
And a very big, a very diverse, and let's be honest, sometimes a very, very messy and divided country.
Governor, would you like to respond and also answer the question about restrictions?
Yeah, well, the question got asked when Donald Trump made the accusation that wasn't true about Minnesota.
Well, let me tell you... Governor, would you like to answer the question?
You know, the question that we asked you.
There's a young woman named Amber Thurman.
She happens to be in Georgia, a restrictive state.
Because of that, she had to travel a long distance to North Carolina to try and get her care.
Amber Thurman died in that journey back and forth.
The fact of the matter is, how can we as a nation say that your life and your rights, as basic as the right to control your own body, is determined on geography?
There's a very real chance, had Amber Thurman lived in Minnesota, she would be alive today.
That's why the restoration of Roe vs. Wade.
When you listen to Vice President Harris talk about this subject, and you hear me talk about it, you hear us talking exactly the same.
Donald Trump is trying to figure out how to get the political right of this.
I agree with a lot of what Senator Vance said about what's happening.
His running mate, though, does not, and that's the problem.
Governor, your time is up.
Senator, let me ask you about that.
He mentioned, I think referring to a national ban.
In the past, you have supported a federal ban on abortion after 15 weeks.
In fact, you said if someone can't support legislation like that, quote, you are making the United States the most barbaric pro-abortion regime anywhere in the entire world.
My question is, why have you changed your position?
Well, first of all, I never supported a national ban.
I did during when I was running for Senate in 2022, talk about setting some minimum national standard.
For example, we have a partial birth abortion ban in this in place in this country at the federal level.
I don't think anybody's trying to get rid of that, or at least I hope not, though I know that Democrats have taken a very radical pro-abortion stance.
But Nora, you know, one of the things that changed is in the state of Ohio, we had a referendum in 2023 and the people of Ohio voted overwhelmingly, by the way, against my position.
And I think that what I learned from that, Nora, is that we've got to do a better job at winning back people's trust.
So many young women would love to have families.
So many young women also see an unplanned pregnancy as something that's going to destroy their livelihood, destroy their education, destroy their relationships.
And we have got to earn people's trust back.
And that's why Donald Trump and I are committed to pursuing pro-family policies, making child care more accessible, making fertility treatments more accessible, because we've got to do a better job at that.
And that's what real leadership is.
Governor, your response.
I'm going to respond on the pro-abortion piece of that.
No, we're not.
We're pro-women.
We're pro-freedom to make your own choice.
We know what the implications are to not be that.
Women having miscarriages.
Women not getting the care.
Physicians feeling like they may be prosecuted for providing that care.
And as far as making sure that we're educating our children and giving them options, Minnesota's a state with one of the lowest teen pregnancy rates.
We understand that too.
We know that the options need to be available and we make that true.
We also make it, we're a top three state for the best place to raise children.
But these two things to try and say that we're pro-children but we don't like this or you guys are pro-abortion, that's not the case at all.
We are pro freedoms for women to make their choices and we're going to make options for children more affordable, a $6,000 child tax credit, but we're not going to base that on the backs of making someone like Amber Thurman drive 600 miles to try and get health care.
- And they respond to that.
First of all, I agree with you, Amber Thurman should still be alive, and there are a lot of people who should still be alive, and I certainly wish that she was.
And maybe you're free to disagree with me on this and explain this to me, but as I read the Minnesota law that you signed into law, the statute that you signed into law, it says that a doctor who presides over an abortion where the baby survives, the doctor the doctor is under no obligation to provide life-saving care to a baby who survives a botched late-term abortion.
That is, I think, whether you're pro-choice or or pro-abortion, that is fundamentally barbaric.
And that's why I use that word, Nora, is because some of what we've seen, do you want to force Catholic hospitals to perform abortions against their will?
Because Kamala Harris is supported suing Catholic nuns to violate their freedom of conscience.
We can be a big and diverse country where we respect people's freedom of conscience and make the country more pro-baby and pro-family, but please. - Yes, Governor, please respond.
Look, this is one where there's always something there.
This is a very simple proposition.
These are women's decisions to make about their health care decisions, and the physicians who know best when they need to do this.
Trying to distort the way the law is written to try and make a point, that's not it at all.
What was I wrong about, Governor?
Please tell me, what was I wrong about?
That is not the way the law is written.
I've given this advice on a lot of things, that getting involved, getting against, that's been misread and it was fact-checked at the last debate.
But the point on this is, is there's a continuation of these guys to try and tell women or to get involved.
I use this line on this, just mind your own business on this.
Things worked best when Roe vs Wade was in place.
When we do a restoration of Roe, that works best.
That doesn't preclude us.
From increasing funding for children.
It doesn't increase us from making sure that once that child's born, like in Minnesota, they get meals.
They get early childhood education.
They get healthcare.
So the hiding behind we're going to do all these other things, when you're not proposing them in your budget, Kamala Harris is proposing them.
She's proposing all those things to make life easier for families.
I asked a specific question, Governor.
You gave me a slogan as a response.
It's not the case.
It's not true.
That's not what the law says.
So you fact-checked it with President Trump.
Gentlemen, there's a lot to discuss.
We have to move on.
And we're going to be right back with much more of the CBS News vice presidential debate in just a moment.
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But as I said in my intro before the debate started, I said, what can you expect?
Well, I said, given the ballistic missile attack on Israel in the upcoming anniversary of October 7th, expect Tim Walz to try to pretend like he's going to be tough on Iran.
But as we have seen, well, he is the governor of Minnesota, which a lot of people call Little Mogadishu because it is essentially turned into Somalia.
And I'm not Exaggerating when I say this, they have so many radical Muslims there that people actually say that it's Somalia and they blended the Minnesota state flag with the Somali flag to redo the Minnesota state flag and Tim Walz, there's actually a video of him proudly
standing next to the Somali redo of the Minnesota state flag and I think we have that video we can go ahead and we can play it or we actually have it here so here's the new flag the state flag and of course it was you can show the original Minnesota state flag and then the Minnesota flag compared to the Somali flag so that you can see the way that they fuse them together to appease the radical Muslims in Minnesota and so
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And of course, as I have been reporting for years, well, Minnesota is the number one ISIS recruitment location for Islamic terrorists in the United States of America.
And so don't believe Tim Walz when he tells you that he's going to be tough on Iran.
Kamala Harris and Joe Biden gave Iran 16 billion dollars, okay?
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They've done nothing to curb or to stop or condemn the rise of Palestinian jihadi Muslims who are destroying our monuments and destroying our cities across the country.
We're now tuning back in to the rest of the vice presidential debate.
...red flag gun laws and legislation to ban certain semi-automatic rifles, including AR-15s.
So let me ask you, earlier this year, for the first time, the parents of a school shooter were convicted of involuntary manslaughter and sentenced to 10 years in prison.
Do you think holding parents responsible could curb mass shootings?
I'll give you two minutes.
Well, Norah, on that particular case, I don't know the full details, but I certainly trust local law enforcement and local authorities to make those decisions.
I think in some cases the answer is going to be yes, and in some cases the answer is going to be no.
And the details really matter here, of course.
For example, if a kid steals a gun, that's going to be different than if a parent hands over a gun knowing that their kid is potentially dangerous.
But look, I want to just sort of speak as a father of three beautiful little kids, and our oldest is now in second grade.
And like a lot of parents, we send our kids to school with such hope and such joy and such pride at their little faces on the first day of school.
And we know, unfortunately, that a lot of kids are going to experience this terrible epidemic of gun violence.
And of course, our hearts go out to the families that are affected by this terrible stuff.
And we do have to do better.
And I think that Governor Walz and I actually probably agree that we need to do better on this.
The question is just, how do we actually do it?
Now here's something that really bothers me and worries me about this epidemic of violence.
The gross majority, close to 90% in some of the statistics I've seen, of the gun violence in this country, it's committed with illegally obtained firearms.
And while we're on that topic, we know that thanks to Kamala Harris's open border, we've seen a massive influx in the number of illegal guns run by the Mexican drug cartels.
So that number, the amount of illegal guns in our country is higher today than it was three and a half years ago.
But what do we do about the schools?
What do we do to protect our kids?
And I think the answer is, and I say this not loving the answer, because I don't want my kids to go to school in a school that feels unsafe or where there are visible signs of security.
But I unfortunately think that we have to increase security in our schools.
We have to make the doors lock better.
We have to make the doors stronger.
We've got to make the windows stronger.
And of course, we've got to increase school resource officers because the idea that we can magically wave a wand and take guns out of the hands of bad guys, it just doesn't fit with recent experience.
So we've got to make our schools safer.
And I think we've got to have some common sense bipartisan solutions for how to do that.
Governor, you have two minutes.
Well, I think all the parents watching tonight, this is just your biggest nightmare.
Look, I got a I got a 17 year old and And he witnessed a shooting at a community center playing volleyball.
Those things don't leave you.
As a member of Congress, I sat in my office, surrounded by dozens of the Sandy Hook parents, and they were looking at my seven-year-old picture on the wall.
Their seven-year-old were dead.
And they were asking us to do something.
And look, I'm a hunter.
I own firearms.
The Vice President is.
We understand that the Second Amendment is there, but our first responsibility is to our kids to figure this out.
In Minnesota, we've enacted enhanced red flag laws, enhanced background checks, and we can start to get data.
But here's the problem.
If we really want to solve this, we've got folks that won't allow research to be even done on gun violence.
And this idea that we should just live with it, and I, and I, here's what I do think, that this is a good start to the conversation.
I 100% believe that Senator Vance hates it when these kids, it's abhorrent and it breaks your heart.
I agree with that.
But that's not far enough when we know there are things that work.
I've spent time in Finland and seen some Finnish schools.
They don't have this happen, even though they have a high gun ownership rate in the country.
There are reasonable things that we can do to make a difference.
It's not infringing on your Second Amendment.
And the idea to have some of these weapons out there, it just doesn't make any sense.
Kamala Harris as an Attorney General worked on this issue.
She knows that it's there.
No one's trying to scaremonger and say we're taking your guns, but I ask all of you out there, Do you want your schools hardened to look like a fort?
Is that what we have to go when we know there's countries around the world that their children aren't practicing these types of drills?
They're being kids.
We owe it to them to get a fix.
These are things that shouldn't be that difficult.
You can still keep your firearms and we can make a difference.
We have to.
If you're listening tonight, this breaks your heart.
Senator.
Tim, first of all, I didn't know that your 17-year-old witness is shooting.
I'm sorry about that.
I appreciate you saying so.
Christ have mercy.
It is awful.
And I appreciate what Tim said, actually, about Finland.
Because I do think it illustrates some of the, frankly, weird differences between our own country's gun violence problem and Finland.
Okay, first of all, We have way higher rates of mental health abuse or mental health substance abuse.
We have way higher rates of depression, way higher rates of anxiety.
We unfortunately have a mental health crisis in this country that I really do think that we need to get to the root causes of because I don't think it's the whole reason why we have such a bad gun violence problem, but I do think it's a big piece of it.
Another driver of the gun violence epidemic, especially that affecting our kids, it doesn't earn as many headlines, but is the terrible gun violence problem in a lot of our big cities.
And this is why we have to empower law enforcement to arrest the bad guys, put them away, and take gun offenders off the streets.
I think there's a whole host of things that we can do here, but I do think at our schools we've got to talk about more security.
Senator, thank you.
Governor, you previously opposed an assault weapons ban, but only later in your political career did you change your position.
Coming across as very empathetic tonight.
I've become friends with school shooters.
I've seen it.
Look, the NRA, I was an NRA guy for a long time.
They used to teach gun safety.
I'm of an age where my shotgun was in my car so I could pheasant hunt after football practice.
That's not where we live today.
And several things I want to mention on this is, talking about cities and where it's at, the number one Where the most firearm deaths happen in Minnesota are rural suicides.
And we have an epidemic of children getting guns and shooting themselves.
And so, we have and we should look at all of the issues.
Making sure folks have health care and all that, but I want to be very careful.
This idea of stigmatizing mental health, just because you have a mental health issue, doesn't mean you're violent.
And I think what we end up doing is we start looking for a scapegoat.
Sometimes it just is the guns.
It's just the guns.
And there are things that you can do about it.
But I do think that this is one, and I think this is a healthy conversation.
I think there's a capacity to find solutions on this that work, protect Second Amendment, protect our children.
That's our priority.
Gentlemen, thank you.
Margaret?
Thank you, Nora.
Let's turn now to the top contributor to inflation, the high cost of housing and rent.
There's a shortage of more than 4 million homes in the United States and that contributes to the high housing prices.
Governor Walz, the Harris campaign promises a $25,000 down payment assistance for first-time homebuyers and a $10,000 tax credit.
They also promise to build 3 million new homes.
Where are you building these homes and won't handing out that kind of money just drive up prices higher?
No, it's not handing out.
We have, first let me say this, this issue of housing, and I think those of you listening on this, the problem we've had is that we've got a lot of folks that see housing as another commodity.
It can be bought up, it can be shifted, it can be moved around.
Those are not folks living in those houses.
Those of you listening tonight, that house is a big deal.
I bought and owned one house in my life.
My mom still lives in the house where I was, and when I think of a house, I'm thinking of Christmas services after midnight mass where you go with your family.
We need to make it more affordable.
And one of the things, as I said, this program that the Vice President is pushing forward and bringing a new way of approaching this is something we're doing in Minnesota from that lead.
We in the state invested in making sure our housing was the biggest investment that we'd ever made in housing.
It starts to make it easier.
We cut some of the red tape.
Local folks, look, we can't do it at the federal level, but local folks make it easier to build those homes.
And then that down payment assistance.
I can tell all of you out there, one of the Certainly for me, using the GI Bill was one thing, but a veteran's home loan?
The big thing about a veteran's home loan is, you don't have to pay the down payment.
Those are things that make it there.
Now look, you're going to pay it back, and you're going to pay your mortgage.
Those are things that we know in the long run, the appreciated value, the generational wealth that's created from it.
And I will give Minneapolis an example.
Minneapolis is the one city where we've seen the lowest inflation rates.
We've seen a 12% increase in stock because we put some of these things in.
And we're implementing a state program to make sure we get some of that down payment assistance.
We get it back from people because here's what we know.
People with stable housing end up with stable jobs.
People with stable housing have their kids able to be able to get to school.
All of those things in the long run end up saving our money.
And that's the thing that I think we should be able to find some common ground in, but we can't blame Immigrants for the only reason that's not the case that's happening in many cities the fact of the matter is is that we don't have enough naturally affording affordable housing, but we can make sure that the government's there to help kick-start it create that create that base Governor, your time is up.
Senator Vance, as far as your campaign's position, the promise is to seize federal lands to build homes, remove regulation, provide tax breaks, and cut back on immigration, which you say pushes up prices.
Where are you going to build all the new homes you're promising, and what part of any of this plan will provide immediate relief?
You have two minutes.
Well, first of all, Tim just said something that I agree with.
We don't want to blame immigrants for higher housing prices, but we do want to blame Kamala Harris for letting in millions of illegal aliens into this country, which does drive up costs, Tim.
25 million illegal aliens competing with Americans for scarce homes is one of the most significant drivers of home prices in the country.
It's why we have massive increases in home prices that have happened right alongside massive increases in illegal aliens.
Alien populations under Kamala Harris's leadership now Tim just mentioned a bunch of ideas now some of those ideas I actually think are halfway decent and some of them I disagree with but the most important thing here is Kamala Harris is not running as a newcomer to politics She is the sitting vice president if she wants to enact all of these policies to make housing more affordable I invite her to use the office that the American people already gave her and
Not sit around and campaign and do nothing while Americans find the American dream of homeownership completely unaffordable.
Now, you asked, Margaret, what would immediately change the equation for American citizens?
If you lower energy prices.
As Donald Trump says, drill, baby, drill.
One of the biggest drivers of housing costs, aside from illegal immigration, is think about it.
If a truck driver is paying 40% more for diesel, Delivering to the job site to build the house is also going to become a lot more expensive.
If we open up American energy, you will get immediate pricing relief for American citizens.
Not, by the way, just in housing, but in a whole host of other economic goods, too.
Senator Vance, you still have 23 seconds there.
Do you want to answer?
Can I have it?
Governor, we will get to you in a moment, but Senator, where are you going to seize the federal lands?
Can you clarify?
Well, what Donald Trump has said is we have a lot of federal lands that aren't being used for anything.
They're not being used for a national park.
They're not being used, and they could be places where we build a lot of housing.
And I do think that we should be opening up building in this country.
We have a lot of land that could be used.
We have a lot of Americans that need homes.
We should be kicking out illegal immigrants who are competing for those homes, and we should be building more homes for the American citizens who deserve to be here.
Senator, your time is up.
Governor, I do want to let you respond to the allegation that the Vice President is letting in migrants.
Of course that's not true.
And again, you have the facts.
I guess we agreed not to fact check.
I'll check it.
Look, crossings are down compared to when Donald Trump left office.
But it's again, Blaming and not trying to find a solution.
I was going to ask on this question, are we going to drill and build houses in the same federal land?
And I think when people hear federal lands, these are really important pieces of land.
Now, Minnesota doesn't have a lot of federal lands.
I know in the western part of the countries we do.
There's not a lot of federal lands in and around Minneapolis, for example.
So the issue is, is I don't understand the federal lands issue unless we see this, and I worry about this as someone who cares deeply about our national parks and our federal lands.
Look, Minnesota, we protect these things.
We've got about 20% of the world's fresh water.
These lands protect.
They're there for a reason.
They belong to all of us.
But again, this is when you view housing and you view these things as commodities.
Like, there's a chance to make money here.
Let's take this federal land and let's sell it to people for that.
I think there's better ways to do this.
We've seen it in Minnesota.
We're able to refurbish some of these houses.
We're able to make some investments.
That gets people in.
And I'm still on the fact on this.
Economists.
Senator Vance, you said you don't like the economists.
Which economists are saying that it is immigrants that's adding to the cost?
Governor, your time is up, but Senator, on that point, I'd like for you to clarify.
There are many contributing factors to high housing costs.
What evidence do you have that migrants are part of this problem?
Well, there's a Federal Reserve study that we're happy to share after the debate.
We'll put it up on social media, actually, that really drills down on the connection between increased levels of migration, especially illegal immigration, and higher housing prices.
Now, of course, Margaret, that's not the entire driver of higher housing prices.
It's also the regulatory regime of Kamala Harris.
Look, we are a country of builders.
We're a country of doers.
We're a country of explorers.
But we increasingly have a federal administration that makes it harder to develop our resources, makes it harder to build things, and wants to throw people in jail for not doing everything exactly as Kamala Harris says they have to do.
And what that means is that you have a lot of people who would love to build homes who aren't able to build homes.
I actually agree with Tim Walz.
We should get out of this idea of housing as a commodity, but the thing that has most turned housing into a commodity is giving it away to millions upon millions of people who have no legal right to be here.
What federal regulations?
I deal with this as a governor.
You can very quickly reply.
I'm sorry.
I get this as a governor, and I don't necessarily disagree with that.
That in some cases, many of those are local, many of them are state.
I don't know which ones are federal, but I think whenever we talk regulations, people think they can get rid of them.
I think you want to be able to get out of your house in a fire.
I think you want to make sure that it's fireproof and those types of things.
So which are the regulations?
Because the vice president's not responsible for those.
Congress writes those.
Governor, thank you.
Gentlemen, we have a lot to get through.
You're passionate about the housing crisis, I can tell.
Nora?
Thank you.
One of the top problems facing Americans is the high cost of health care.
Senator Vance, at the last presidential debate, former President Trump was asked about replacing the Affordable Care Act.
In response, he said, I have concepts of a plan.
Since then, Senator, you've talked about changing how chronically ill Americans get health insurance.
Can you explain how that would work?
And can you guarantee that Americans with pre-existing conditions won't pay more?
I'll give you two minutes.
Well, of course.
We're going to cover Americans with pre-existing conditions.
In fact, a lot of my family members have gotten health care.
I believe, you know, members of my family actually got private health insurance, at least for the first time, switched off of Medicaid onto private insurance for the first time under Donald Trump's leadership.
And I think that, you know, a lot of people have criticized this concepts of a plan remark.
It's very simple common sense.
I think it's Tim Walz knows from 12 years in Congress.
You're not going to propose a 900 page bill standing on a debate stage.
It would bore everybody to tears and it wouldn't actually mean anything because part of this is the give and take of bipartisan negotiation.
Now, when Donald Trump was actually president, and again, he has a record to be proud of, prescription drugs fell in 2018 for the first time in a very long time.
Under Kamala Harris's leadership, prescription drugs are up about 7%.
Under Donald Trump's entire four years, they were up about 1.5%.
He introduced pricing transparency.
Think about health care.
You go into a hospital, you try to buy something, and nobody knows what it actually costs.
That price transparency will actually give American consumers a little bit more choice and will also drive down costs.
And we talked about the reinsurance regulations is what I was talking about.
Look, Donald Trump has said that if we allow states to experiment a little bit, on how to cover both the chronically ill but the non-chronically ill.
It's not just a plan.
He actually implemented some of these regulations when he was president of the United States.
And I think you can make a really good argument that it salvaged Obamacare, which was doing disastrously until Donald Trump came along.
I think it's an important point about President Trump.
Of course, you don't have to agree with everything that President Trump has ever said or ever done, but when Obamacare was crushing under the weight of its own regulatory burden and healthcare costs, Donald Trump could have destroyed the program.
Instead, he worked in a bipartisan way to ensure that Americans had access Affordable care.
It's not perfect, of course, and there's so much more that we can do, but I think that Donald Trump has earned the right to put in place some better healthcare policies.
He's earned it because he did it successfully the first time.
Governor?
Alright, here's where being an old guy gives you some history.
I was there at the creation of the ACA.
And the reason it was so important is I come from a major healthcare state.
Home of the Mayo Clinic, home to Medical Alley, 3M, Medtronic, all of those.
We understand healthcare.
It's why we're ranked first on affordability and accessibility and quality of healthcare.
And so what I know is, under Kamala Harris, More people are covered than they have before.
Those of you listening, this is critical to you.
Now Donald Trump all of a sudden wants you.
Go back and remember this.
He ran on the first thing he was going to do on day one was to repeal Obamacare.
On day one, he tried to sign an executive order to repeal the ACA.
He signed on to a lawsuit to repeal the ACA, but lost it to the Supreme Court, and he would have repealed the ACA had it not been for the courage of John McCain to save that bill.
Now fast forward, what that means to you is, you lose your pre-existing conditions.
If you're sitting at home and you got asthma, too bad.
If you're a woman, probably not.
Broke your foot during football, might kick you out.
Your kids get kicked out when they're 26.
Kamala Harris negotiated drug prices for the first time with Medicare.
We have 10 drugs that will come online, the most common ones that'll be there.
But look, this issue, and when Donald Trump said, I've got a concept of a plan.
It cracked me up as a fourth grade teacher because my kids would have never given me that.
But what Senator Vance just explained might be worse than a concept.
Because what he explained is pre-Obamacare.
And I'll make this as simple as possible because I have done this for a long time.
What they're saying is, if you're healthy, why should you be paying more?
So what they're going to do is let insurance companies pick who they insure, because guess what happens?
You pay your premium.
It's not much.
They figure they're not going to have to pay out to you.
But those of you a little older, gray, you know, got cancer, you're going to get kicked out of it.
That's why the system didn't work.
Kamala Harris will protect and enhance the ACA.
Governor, thank you.
Senator, you have not yet explained how you would protect people with pre-existing conditions or laid out that plan.
Well, look, we currently have laws and regulations in place right now that protect people with pre-existing conditions.
We want to keep those regulations in place, but we also want to make the health insurance marketplace function a little bit better.
Now, what Governor Walz just said is actually not true.
A lot of what happened and the reason that Obamacare was crushing under its own weight is that a lot of young and healthy people were leaving the exchanges.
Donald Trump Actually helped address that problem and he did so in a way that preserved people's access to coverage who had pre-existing conditions.
But again, something that these guys do is they make a lot of claims about if Donald Trump becomes president, all of these terrible consequences are going to ensue.
But in reality, Donald Trump was president.
Inflation was low, take-home pay was higher, and he saved the very program from a Democratic administration that was collapsing and would have collapsed absent his leadership.
He did his job, which is govern, in a bipartisan way and get results, not just complain about problems, but actually solve them.
Governor, did enrollment under the Affordable Care Act go up under the Trump administration?
It's higher now that we've seen it go up.
Look, people are using it.
The system works.
And the question about this of young people or whatever, that's the individual mandate piece of this.
And Republicans fought tooth and nail saying, well, Americans should be free to do this.
So you think the individual mandate is a good idea?
I think the idea of making sure the risk pool is broad enough to cover everyone, that's the only way insurance works.
When it doesn't, it collapses.
You are asking pre-ACA where we get people out.
Look, people know that they need to be on health care.
People expect it to be there.
And when we are able to make it, and we are making it this way, when we incentivize people to be in the market, when we help people who might not be able to afford it get there, and we make sure then when you get sick and old, it's there for you.
Because I heard people say, well, I don't want to buy into Medicare or whatever.
Good luck buying health care once you get past 70.
So look, the ACA works.
We can continue to do better.
Kamala Harris did that.
The way she made everything better was negotiating those 10 drugs on Medicare for the first time in American history.
Thank you, Margaret.
Can I address that?
I apologize, we're out of time.
We have a number of subjects to discuss.
Margaret?
Let's talk about families in America.
There is a child care crisis in this country, and the United States is one of the very few developed countries in the world without a national paid leave program for new parents.
Governor Walz, you said that if Democrats win both the White House and Congress, this is a day one priority for you.
How long should employers be required to pay workers while they are home taking care of their newborns?
You have two minutes.
Yeah, well, that's negotiable.
And that's what Congress worked.
But here's what the deal is.
American sitting out there right now, you may work for a big company.
Look, we're home in Minnesota to some of the largest Fortune 500 companies.
Kamala Harris knows that in California.
Those companies provide paid family medical leave.
One is, I think they're moral and they think it's a good thing, but it also keeps their employees healthy.
We in Minnesota passed a paid family medical leave.
You have a child, You.
And I had to go back to work five days after my kids were born.
This allows you to stay home a certain amount of time.
What we know is, that gets the child off to a better start, the family works better, we stay in their employers, we get more consistency in that.
So Kamala Harris has made it a priority.
We implemented it in Minnesota, and we see growth.
That's how you become a pro-business state.
But the negotiations on it, and here's the issue.
Those big companies are able to offer it, Those of you out there who don't have it, just imagine what happens if you get cancer or your child gets sick.
We know what happens.
You end up staying home.
In some places, that means no paycheck because you've got no protection on that.
This is the case of an economy that Donald Trump has set for the wealthiest amongst us.
He's willing to give those Tax breaks to the wealthiest.
He's willing to say, bust those unions up, do whatever.
What we're saying is the economy works best when it works for all of us.
And so a paid family medical leave program, and I will tell you, go to the families or go to the businesses and ask them.
As far as child care on this, you have to take it at both the supply and the demand side.
You can't expect the most important people in our lives to take either our children or our parents to get paid the least amount of money.
And we have to make it easier for folks to be able to get into that business and then to make sure that folks are able to pay for that.
We were able to do it in Minnesota and I'm still telling you this, we were listed as the best state, we're still in crisis on this.
A federal program of paid family medical leave and help with this will enhance our workforce, enhance our families and make it easier to have the children that you want. - Governor, your time is up.
Senator, do you support a national paid leave program?
And if so, for how long should employers be mandated to pay their employees while they are home taking care of their newborn?
You have two minutes.
Yeah, well, first of all, Margaret, a number of my Republican colleagues and some Democrats, too, have worked on this issue.
And I think there is a bipartisan solution here because a lot of us care about this issue.
I mean, look, I speak from this very personally because I'm married to a beautiful woman who is an incredible mother to our three beautiful kids but is also a very, very brilliant corporate litigator, and I'm so proud of her.
But being a working mom, even for somebody with all of the advantages of my wife, is Extraordinarily difficult.
And it's not just difficult from a policy perspective.
She actually had access to paid family leave because she worked for a bigger company.
But the cultural pressure on young families, and especially young women, I think makes it really hard for people to choose the family model they want.
A lot of young women would like to go back to work immediately.
Some would like to spend a little time home with the kids.
Some would like to spend longer at home with the kids.
We should have a family care model that makes choice Possible.
And I think this is a very important substantive difference between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris's approach.
I mean, look, if you look at the federal programs that we have that support paid family leave right now, the Community Development Block Grant, and there's another block grant program that spends a lot of money from the federal government.
These programs only go to one kind of childcare model.
Let's say you'd like your church maybe to help you out with childcare.
Maybe you live in a rural area or an urban area and you'd like to get together with families in your neighborhood to provide child care in the way that makes the most sense.
You don't get access to any of these federal monies.
We want to promote choice in how we deliver family care and how we promote child care because, look, it is unacceptable.
Of course, Sam and I have been on the campaign trail a lot the past seven or eight weeks, and one of the biggest complaints I hear from young families is people who feel like they don't have options, like they're choosing between going to work or taking care of their kids.
That is an incredible burden to put on American families.
We're the only country that does it.
I think we could do a heck of a lot better.
Senator, thank you.
You have also said, Senator Vance, many things about the American family.
The Federal Reserve says parents will spend nearly as much on childcare as they do on housing each month.
So I want to get your thoughts on this.
President Trump recently said, As much as child care is talked about as being expensive, it's relatively speaking not very expensive compared to the kinds of numbers we'll be taking in.
Is President Trump committed to the $5,000 per child tax credit that you have described?
You have one minute.
Well, what President Trump said, Margaret, I just want to defend my running mate here a little bit, is that we're going to be taking in a lot of money by penalizing companies for shipping jobs overseas and penalizing countries who employ slave laborers and then ship their products back into our country and undercut the wages of American workers.
It's the heart of the Donald Trump economic plan.
Cut taxes for American workers and American families.
Cut taxes for businesses that are hiring and building companies in the United States of America.
But penalize companies and countries that are shipping jobs overseas.
That's the heart of the economic proposal.
And I think what President Trump is saying is that when we bring in this additional revenue with higher economic growth, we're going to be able to provide paid family leave, childcare options that are viable and workable for a lot of American families.
Can you clarify how that will solve the child care shortage?
Well, because, as Tim said, a lot of the child care shortage is we just don't have enough resources going into the multiple people who could be providing family care options.
And we're going to have to, unfortunately, look, we're going to have to spend more money.
We're going to have to induce more people to want to provide child care options for American families.
Because the reason it's so expensive right now is because you've got way too few people providing this very essential service.
If you go to Tim Walz's ex-account right now, you'll see that he's tweeting up a storm.
And you have to ask yourself, how is he tweeting right now when he's on stage?
I know that Tim Walz does not control his own Twitter account.
Do you think Congress will agree to the $6,000 credit for newborns and $3,000 credit for children over the age of 6 as your campaign has promised?
Is that realistic?
Well, if these members of Congress are listening to anybody, I can tell you.
How is he tweeting?
This is the biggest issue.
Everybody listening tonight knows.
I mean, I'm sure they were shocked to hear it's not that expensive.
And let's be clear, whether it's $5,000 or $6,000, that pays you about three or four months.
Let's be clear of where we're at on this.
It's because we got out of an imbalance on this.
We thought we were going to get by by not paying people.
I don't think Senator Vance and I are that far apart.
I'm not opposed to what he's talking about on options.
We've done scholarship types of things.
I think we need to be open to making the case.
But the issue here is, the question you asked is, you're not going to pay for it with these tariffs.
That's just adding another $4,000 on the family and taking less.
So not only do they not get the money to pay for that, they're $4,000 in the hole.
That's Wharton's goal.
That's his alma mater.
And so I think the issue...
If those members of Congress, I can't believe they're not here.
When I go to businesses, sure they'll talk about taxes sometime, but they will lead with childcare, and they will lead with housing.
Because we know the problem is, especially in a state like Minnesota, we need more workers because our economy's growing, but we need the workforce.
Governor, thank you.
We need to move on.
Nora?
Let's talk about the state of democracy, the top issue for Americans after the economy and inflation.
After the 2020 election, President Trump's campaign and others filed 62 lawsuits contesting the results.
Judges, including those appointed by President Trump and other Republican presidents, looked at the evidence and said there was no widespread fraud.
The governors of every state in the nation, Republicans and Democrats, certified the 2020 election results and sent a legal slate of electors to Congress for January 6th.
Senator Vance, you have said you would not have certified the last presidential election and would have asked the states to submit alternative electors.
That has been called unconstitutional and illegal.
Would you again seek to challenge this year's election results even if every governor certifies the results?
I'll give you two minutes.
Well, Nora, first of all, I think that we're focused on the future.
We need to figure out how to solve the inflation crisis caused by Kamala Harris' policies, make housing affordable, make groceries affordable, and that's what we're focused on.
But I want to answer your question because you did ask it.
Look, what President Trump has said is that there were problems in 2020, and my own belief is that we should fight about those issues, debate those issues, Peacefully in the public square.
And that's all I've said.
And that's all that Donald Trump has said.
Remember, he said that on January the 6th, the protesters ought to protest peacefully.
And on January the 20th, what happened?
Joe Biden became the president.
Donald Trump left the White House.
And now, of course, unfortunately, we have all of the negative policies that have come from the Harris Biden administration.
I believe that we actually do have a threat to democracy in this country, but unfortunately, it's not the threat to democracy that Kamala Harris and Tim Walz want to talk about.
It is the threat of censorship.
It's Americans casting aside lifelong friendships because of disagreements over politics.
It's big technology companies silencing their fellow citizens.
And it's Kamala Harris saying that rather than debate and persuade her fellow Americans, she'd like to censor people who engage in misinformation.
I think that is a much bigger threat to democracy than anything that we've seen in this country in the last four years, in the last 40 years.
Now, I'm really proud, especially given that I was raised by two lifelong blue collar Democrats, to have the endorsement of Bobby Kennedy Jr.
and Tulsi Gabbard.
Life-long leaders in the Democratic coalition.
Of course, they don't agree with me and Donald Trump on every issue.
We don't have to agree on every issue.
But we're united behind a basic American First Amendment principle that we ought to debate our differences.
We ought to argue about them.
We ought to try to to persuade our fellow Americans Kamala Harris is engaged in censorship at an industrial scale.
She did it during COVID.
She's done it over a number of other issues and that to me is a much bigger threat to democracy than what Donald Trump said when he said that protesters should peacefully protest on January the 6th.
Governor?
Well I've enjoyed tonight's debate and I think there was a lot of commonality here and I'm sympathetic to misspeaking on things and I think I might have with the senator.
Me too, man.
There's one, though, that this one is troubling to me, and I say that because I think we need to tell the story.
Donald Trump refused to acknowledge this, and the fact is that I don't think we can be the frog in the pot and let the boiling water go up.
He was very clear.
I mean, he lost this election, and he said he didn't.
A hundred and forty police officers were beaten at the Capitol that day.
Some with the American flag.
Several later died.
And it wasn't just in there.
In Minnesota, a group gathered on the state capitol grounds in St.
Paul and said, we're marching to the governor's residence and there may be casualties.
The only person there was my son and his dog, who was rushed out crying by state police.
That issue, and Mike Pence standing there as they were chanting, hang Mike Pence!
Mike Pence made the right decision.
So, Senator, it was adjudicated over and over and over.
I worked with kids long enough to know, and I said as a football coach, sometimes you really want to win, but the democracy is bigger than winning an election.
You shake hands, and then you try and do everything you can to help the other side win.
That's what was at stake here.
Now the thing I'm most concerned about is the idea that Imprisoning your political opponents.
Already laying the groundwork for people not accepting this.
And a president's words matter.
A president's words matter.
People hear that.
So, I think this issue of settling our differences at the ballot box, shaking hands when we lose, being honest about it, but to deny what happened on January 6th, the first time in American history, that a president or anyone tried to overturn a fair election and the peaceful transfer of power.
And here we are, four years later, in the same boat.
I will tell you this, that when this is over, we need to shake hands, this election, and the winner needs to be the winner.
This has got to stop.
It's tearing our country apart.
Margaret?
Senator Vance, did you want to respond to that?
Yeah, well, look, Tim, first of all, it's really rich for Democratic leaders to say that Donald Trump is a unique threat to democracy when he peacefully gave over power on January the 20th, as we have done for 250 years in this country.
We are going to shake hands after this debate and after this election, and of course, I hope that we win, and I think we're going to win, but if Tim Walz is the next Vice President, he'll have my prayers, he'll have my best wishes, and he'll have my help whenever he wants it.
But we have to remember that for years in this country, Democrats protested the results of elections.
Hillary Clinton in 2016 said that Donald Trump had the election stolen by Vladimir Putin because the Russians bought like $500,000 worth of Facebook ads.
This has been going on for a long time.
And if we want to say that we need to respect the results of the election, I'm on board.
But if we want to say, as Tim Walz is saying, that this is just a problem that Republicans have had, I don't buy that.
January 6 was not Facebook ads.
And I think a revisionist history on this.
Don't understand how we got to this point, but the issue was that happened Donald Trump can you do it and all of us say there's no place for this it has Massive repercussions this idea that there's censorship to stop people from doing Threatening to kill someone threatening to do something.
That's not that's not censorship censorship is book banning We've seen that we've seen that brought up.
I just think for everyone tonight, and and I I'm gonna Thanks, Senator Vance.
I think this is the conversation they want to hear.
And I think there's a lot of agreement.
This is one that we are miles apart on.
This was a threat to our democracy in a way that we had not seen.
And it manifested itself because of Donald Trump's inability to say.
He is still saying he didn't lose the election.
I would just ask that.
Did he lose the 2020 election?
Tim, I'm focused on the future.
Did Kamala Harris censor Americans from speaking their mind in the wake of the 2020 COVID situation?
That is a damning non-answer.
It's a damning non-answer for you to not talk about censorship.
Obviously, Donald Trump and I think that there were problems in 2020.
We've talked about it.
I'm happy to talk about it further.
But you guys attack us for not believing in democracy.
The most sacred right under the United States democracy is the First Amendment.
You yourself have said there's no First Amendment right to misinformation.
Kamala Harris wants to use the power of government and big tech to silence people from speaking their minds.
That is a threat to democracy that will long outlive this present political moment.
I would like Democrats and Republicans to both reject censorship.
Let's persuade one another.
Let's argue about ideas and then let's come together Afterwards.
You can't yell fire in a crowded theater.
That's that's the test.
That's the Supreme Court test.
Tim, fire in a crowded theater.
You guys wanted to kick people off of Facebook for saying that toddlers shouldn't wear masks.
That's not fire in a crowded theater.
That is criticizing the policies of the government, which is the right of every American.
Senator, the governor does have the floor for one minute to respond to you.
I don't run Facebook.
What I do know is, is I see a candidate out there who refused, and now again, and I'm pretty shocked by this, he lost the election.
This is not a debate.
It's not anything anywhere other than in Donald Trump's world.
Because look, when Mike Pence made that decision to certify that election, that's why Mike Pence isn't on this stage.
What I'm concerned about is, where is the firewall with Donald Trump?
Where is the firewall if he knows he could do anything, including taking an election, and his vice president's not going to stand to it?
That's what we're asking you, America.
Will you stand up?
Will you keep your oath of office, even if the president doesn't?
And I think Kamala Harris would agree.
She wouldn't have picked me if she didn't think I would do that.
Because, of course, that's what we would do.
So, America, I think you've got a really clear choice on this election of who's going to honor that democracy and who's going to honor Donald Trump.
Governor, your time is up.
Thank you, gentlemen.
We will be right back with both of our candidates.
That's the CBS News vice presidential debate continues.
Well, that was quite the cop out right there from Tim Walls, who who said, well, I don't run Facebook when he was questioned and pressured by J.D.
Vance, talking about how the White House currently has been censoring and encouraging political censorship of conservatives.
And as we know, you can even pull up the article, you can find it right now, Mark Zuckerberg even admitted that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, the White House asked him to censor Trump supporters and I asked him to censor information about COVID-19 lockdowns and COVID-19 vaccines, and so that's not exactly a very good answer.
Well, I don't run Facebook.
Well, who does run Facebook?
Kamala Harris?
Because Kamala Harris sure has a lot of power pulling the strings with Mark Zuckerberg.
Here we go.
We always show the receipts here.
Mark Zuckerberg says White House pressured Facebook to censor COVID-19 content.
Meta boss Mark Zuckerberg has said he regrets bowing to what he claims was pressure from the U.S.
government to censor posts about COVID on Facebook and Instagram.
And we all know that January 8th, 2021, a day that will live in infamy in the United States.
History books, the day that all the big tech social media companies banded together to de-platform a sitting United States President, President Donald J. Trump, who was de-platformed and he was permanently banned on all social media and debanked while he was still a sitting United States President, two days after January 6th.
I mean, you cannot censor the President of the United States, especially anytime, right?
But especially while he's still the sitting United States President before transition of power, so...
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Did you hear the line where Tim Walz was talking about how he's friends with school shooters?
That is weird.
I mean, you want to talk about weird, how he calls JD Vance weird.
It is weird, weird, weird, weird to say that you are friends with school shooters, Tim Walz.
Let's cut back.
Thank you to all of you.
If you're still up and the folks who miss dancing with our stars, I appreciate it.
But look, the support of the democracy matters.
It matters that you're here.
And I'm as surprised as anybody of this coalition that Kamala Harris has built from Bernie Sanders to Dick Cheney to Taylor Swift and a whole bunch of folks in between there.
And they don't all agree on everything, but they are truly optimistic people.
They believe in a positive future of this country, and one where our politics can be better than it is.
And I have to tell you, that better than it is, is the sense of optimism that there can be an opportunity economy.
That works for everyone.
Not just to get by, but to get ahead.
And the idea that freedom really means something.
Not the freedom of government to be in your bedroom or exam room, but the freedom for you to make choices about yourself.
Now look, we all know who Donald Trump is.
He's told us, and as Maya Angelou said, believe him when he told you that.
His first inaugural address talked about American carnage.
And then he spent four years trying to maybe do that.
Senator Vance tonight made it clear he will stand with Donald Trump's agenda.
He will continue to push down that road.
Excuse me.
Kamala Harris gives us a different option.
Now I'll have to tell you, I'm going to be careful about the quotes, but there's one that Senator Vance said that does resonate with me.
He said Donald Trump makes the people I care about afraid.
A lot of America feels that way.
We don't need to be afraid.
Franklin Roosevelt was right.
All we have to fear is fear itself.
Kamala Harris is bringing us a new way forward.
She's bringing us a politics of joy.
She's bringing real solutions for the middle class.
And she's centering you at the heart of that.
All the while asking everyone, join this movement, make your voices heard, let's look for a new day where everybody gets that opportunity and everybody gets a chance to thrive.
I humbly ask for your vote on November 5th for Kamala Harris.
Governor Walz, thank you.
Senator Vance, your closing statement.
Well, I want to thank Governor Walz, you folks at CBS, and of course the American people for tuning in this evening.
One of the issues we didn't talk about was energy.
And I remember when I was being raised by my grandmother, when she didn't have enough money to turn on the heat some nights because Ohio gets pretty cold at night, and because money was often very tight.
And I believe, as a person who wants to be your next vice president, that we are a rich and prosperous enough country where every American, whether they're rich or poor, ought to be able to turn on their heat.
In the middle of a cold winter night, that's gotten more difficult thanks to Kamala Harris's energy policies.
I believe that whether you're rich or poor, you ought to be able to afford a nice meal for your family.
That's gotten harder because of Kamala Harris's policies.
I believe that whether you're rich or poor, you ought to be able to afford to buy a house.
You ought to be able to live in safe neighborhoods.
You ought to not have your communities flooded with fentanyl, and that too has gotten harder because of Kamala Harris's policies.
Now, I've been in politics long enough to do what Kamala Harris does when she stands before the American people and says that on day one, she's going to work on all these challenges I just listed.
She's been the vice president for three and a half years.
Day one was 1,400 days ago, and her policies have made these problems worse.
Now, I believe that we have the most beautiful country in the world.
I meet people on the campaign trail who can't afford food, but have the grace and generosity to ask me how I'm doing and to tell me they're praying for my family.
What that has taught me is that we have the greatest country, the most beautiful country, the most incredible people anywhere in the world.
But they're not going to be able to achieve their full dreams with the broken leadership that we have in Washington.
They're not going to be able to live their American dream if we do the same thing that we've been doing for the last three and a half years.
We need change.
We need a new direction.
We need a president who has already done this once before and did it well.
Please vote for Donald Trump.
And whether you vote for me or vote for Tim Walz, I just want to say I'm so proud to be doing this and I'm rooting for you.
God bless you and good night.
Senator Vance, thank you.
And thank you both for participating in the only vice presidential debate of this election cycle.
I'm Margaret Brennan.
And I'm Nora O'Donnell.
And a reminder, there are just 35 days until election day.
Please get out and vote.
and for all of us here at CBS News.
Thank you and good night.
The first and only vice presidential debate This election is now complete.
It was a cordial debate of a kind that people mostly say they want.
You notice here the two candidates lingering on the stage.
That's quite a difference from the presidential debate in which it was not even sure that Vice President Harris and Donald Trump would shake hands.
It was a debate in which the line, I appreciate what Tim said about Finland, was one of the many ways in which Senator Vance agreed with the governor.
The governor agreed right back.
But that's the tone and the kind of theater review of this.
I'll pick out two issues.
On the question of the top of the news today, which is the Middle East and the kinds of foreign policy surprises that hit any president.
Tim Walz made the case that Donald Trump's Temperament is unfit for any kind of surprise, cited the members of the Trump administration who have attested to that.
Vance came back and said there were no wars during the Trump administration.
On the economy, I'll make a political point, which is that what Vance did was something Donald Trump was incapable of doing during his presidential debate, which is repeatedly saying, if Kamala Harris was going to do these things, why didn't she in office?
Now, whether voters buy that or not, Tim Walz mentioned the Inflation Reduction Act and a variety of others, other items under Biden.
But returning to that political point has worked in the past for Donald Trump against Hillary Clinton.
We'll see if it works this time.
I'd like to make a final point on tone.
The JD Vance on that stage was very different than what people may have seen in podcasts.
But then there was an air of unreality about it.
He talked about bipartisan solutions with nuance.
Of a kind we never saw during the Trump administration.
He talked about Donald Trump almost as the defender of the Affordable Care Act.
Donald Trump tried to kill the Affordable Care Act.
And then I think at the very end of the debate we saw something extraordinary.
Tim Walz asked JD Vance if Donald Trump lost the election.
He was incapable of answering that simple yes-no question.
That was an incredible debate.
I mean, it was much more cordial than I thought it was going to be.
And, you know, we've seen Tim Walz attack viciously.
J.D.
Vance has weird and accused him of, what do they say?
He has sex with a couch.
I mean, they lie and they say all these really ridiculous things.
And J.D.
Vance was a lot more empathetic and nicer to Tim Walz than he really needed to be tonight.
And I think that a lot of Americans miss that.
But unfortunately, it's really hard to be cordial with the left these days just because they really lack empathy.
And it's hard to be cordial with a party that is inciting political violence and is cheering when Donald Trump almost took a bullet to the head.
But it was very cordial, peaceful.
debate tonight.
I think JD Vance did a great job countering the hypocrisy of Kamala Harris and also really bringing back all of the issues to Kamala Harris's policies, whether it was inflation, fentanyl, the open borders, free speech, all of these issues in our country right now, rising housing prices.
And so I think that overall, JD Vance really He did a great job tonight.
He showed a side of himself that is really contrasting with what the media narrative has been about his personality.
They say that he's a misogynist.
They say that he's a racist.
They say that he's a bully.
And JD Vance was very empathetic.
I mean, really to a point where I was like, okay, man, like, look, this is a little too much.
When I say a little too much, I'm talking about, you know, he was kind of indulging Tim Walz's victim complex.
Oh, my son, my son, my son was, you know, a witness to a shooting and when he was 17 years old and playing volleyball.
Is that true?
I don't know.
We should probably get a fact check on that.
But you didn't see JD Vance roll his eyes.
He just said, wow, I'm really sorry to hear that.
That's really awful.
That's really awful.
And, you know, whether you become VP or I become VP, I'll be there cheering you on.
He didn't need to be that nice, but he was.
And it just shows you that the media lies, they demonize Donald Trump, they demonize his supporters, they demonize JD Vance, and they want to make us look like the villains.
They want to make Trump supporters look like the villains because that's all they have.
This boogeyman idea of conservatives and Trump supporters being a threat to democracy and how we are supposedly now the biggest terror threat in the country.
White Christian conservative men Ultra mega conservatives and as you saw tonight it's a load of crap because JD Vance came across not just vice presidential but also very presidential in his demeanor and his tone and also he was very on point.
He didn't stutter at all.
You could see that he answered all of the questions and even though the CBS News was trying to fact check him at an eight to one ratio compared to Tim Walz when you look at all the fact checks tonight You can see that he didn't get nervous.
He didn't skip a beat.
And Tim Walls, every single time he was called out, which was...
Let's be honest, wasn't many.
But when they said, well, you didn't really answer the question about why you were in China, when they asked him to answer the question on abortion, it really threw him off because, well, he was hoping that the media was just going to be on his side the whole time, like a three versus one situation, as we saw with the presidential debate in Philadelphia with David Muir, Lindsay Davis and Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.
And so I was surprised to see that the media pushed back a little bit.
Tim Walls, of course, just said, well, I misspoke.
And you don't misspeak that much.
There's no such thing as misspeaking.
You either own the things you say or you don't.
And if you don't, you're just a liar.
And he needs to come to terms with the fact that he is a liar.
Let's go ahead to the chat and take a couple of questions.
I want to get people's comments and thoughts.
What do you guys think about this?
What do you guys think about my assessment?
I think that I was pretty spot-on in the beginning when I told you he was going to talk about abortion.
He was going to dodge questions about a nine-month abortion.
I told you that he was going to try to make it look like he was going to be tough on Iran because they want to hide the fact that Minnesota is now, well, the Islamic terror capital of the United States of America.
And the fact that he has documented histories and relationships with Hamas operatives, Muslim Brotherhood operatives, ISIS-affiliated Islamic centers.
Pretty spot on.
Loomer Unleash is definitely leading the way and I was on my phone a lot during this debate because, well, I was working in tandem with Loomer Unleash DC contributor Charles Downs, you should follow him at TheCharlesDowns on Twitter if you're not already doing so.
And we were reposting our clips because for, well, over two years now, well, we've been confronting all of these senators and representatives about the policies to show you how hypocritical these people are.
And so make sure that you go back and you review my ex-timeline tonight because, well, you're going to see a lot of the previous statements made by members of the House, members of the Senate, and Tim Walz himself that show you how full of shit he really was tonight during this debate.
Also, too, let's go ahead and play this clip.
I have a feeling this is going to be one of the most played clips of the debate tomorrow when people go back and watch it.
Tim Walls actually said that he is friends with school shooters.
Very creepy.
He's got this really dark demonic energy to him, and he actually said tonight during the debate that he is friends with school shooters.
Why would you want to be friends with someone who tried to gun down children?
I mean, the Democrat Party is the party of destruction and death.
They want to abort children at nine months old.
And apparently, well, they want to be friends with school shooters.
Don't take it from me.
Take it out of the mouth of Tim Walz.
Play the clip.
I sat in that office with those Sandy Hook parents.
I've become friends with school shooters.
I've seen it.
Look.
Disgusting.
I mean, this guy is a sociopath.
Play the clip again.
I sat in that office with those Sandy Hook parents.
I've become friends with school shooters.
I've seen it.
Look.
I've met with the parents of Sandy Hook.
I'm friends with school shooters.
What do you mean you're friends with school shooters?
What do you mean?
What does he mean by that?
Very, very weird.
The party that wants to drug your kids up with gender replacement hormone therapy.
They want to tell you that you're abusive if you don't consent to your four-year-old getting gender transitioning surgery.
They want to disarm you, but then they want to talk about being friends with school shooters who come to school with guns.
In gun-free zones to try to gun down your children.
These people are disgusting.
They do not support parental rights.
They support the complete bastardization of childhood innocence.
And it is very, very disturbing to hear a guy who could possibly be the Vice President of the United States say, I am friends with school shooters.
People want you to play it again.
It is that unbelievable.
Let's go ahead and play the clip again.
I sat in that office with those Sandy Hook parents.
I've become friends with school shooters.
I've seen it.
Look.
Disgusting.
I think that that clip is going to come back to haunt him.
I just saw right now while browsing X that the Trump war room has actually posted that clip.
And so they're not skipping a beat to remind people of what Kamala Harris's pick for vice president said.
And now I think she's starting to have buyer's remorse on Tim Walz because the other day, right?
She goes, oh, well, I had sleep insomnia.
I was just so sleep deprived, you know?
So now she wants to say that she has a medical disorder, and I have sleep apnea, and I'm, you know, I have sleep insomnia, and I just don't sleep well, and I just, I was so sleep deprived when I chose Tim Walz.
Oh, I didn't realize he was a retard.
Sorry.
No, we all know you didn't want to pick the Jew because you're the party of Jew haters and Israel haters.
That's why you skipped a beat on Josh Shapiro, who's a self-hating Jew.
He was on Cavuto's show today.
Shame on Neil Cavuto.
Shame on Fox News talking about Trump.
Okay, signing bombs with Zelensky the other day, who was illegally campaigning for Kamala Harris in the swing state of Pennsylvania.
Absolutely shameful behavior.
They thought that they were going to pander to all the Muslims, right?
Let's get a guy who's friends with all the jihadi Muslims in Minnesota.
Tim Walz, you know?
We'll win Minnesota.
We'll win Michigan.
But clearly, even though Donald Trump is pro-Israel, okay, he wants to end the war.
And Kamala Harris likes pandering to all groups.
And she's married to a self-hating Jew, Doug Emhoff.
And she hates Jewish people.
She hates Israel.
So she's pissed off a lot of these Democrats who are pro-Israel and Jewish.
And then she also has pissed off a lot of the Palestinian rioters.
And I'm not saying that the Palestinian rioters agree with Donald Trump, but there are a lot of Muslims out there who don't want their kids to be indoctrinated with the LGBTQ agenda.
They don't agree with the LGBTQ...
LGBTQ mafia that is really running a lot of Kamala Harris's campaign.
And also, they just want the war to end.
They may have unsettling views about Jews and Christians, and a lot of these people may support Sharia law.
However, they want the war to end.
And we don't have to agree on everything, but Donald Trump, of course, is the pro-peace, anti-war candidate.
And that's why you're seeing Democrat Muslims in places like Hamtramck and Dearborn actually cross the aisle and endorse Donald Trump over Kamala Harris, despite the fact that she chose a pro-jihadi, pro-Hamas, Muslim fanatic lover.
In the form of Governor Tim Walz of Minnesota.
So you can look it up.
Everything I'm saying is completely true.
We broke the story about his associations with the Dar al-Farooq Islamic Center, the ISIS-affiliated Islamic Center.
Disgusting.
We're going to take a few more questions from the chat, but before that, I want to take a moment to thank the third sponsor of Loomer Unleashed and our live debate coverage tonight.
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Poor little baby.
You know, sometimes Loomer, she doesn't realize how big she is, you know, and she just wants to cuddle and she wants to go over and play with her, but she's so big.
Imagine somebody six times your size sitting on you.
So it's sad, it's unfortunate, but I think that Loomer squished Mecca.
But I think she's gonna be okay.
Hopefully we'll get some medicine from the vet tomorrow and maybe there's something in my positive medical kit that can hold her over.
Let's go to the chat, take a few more questions.
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What did you guys think of the debate tonight?
Press one if you think that JD Vance did a good job.
Comments, let me know what your criticisms are.
If you have any, your thoughts.
Let's scroll up.
Let's see what people are saying.
Someone said, Laura, you look great tonight.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
it.
Scroll down.
Thanks for all the nice comments from Mecca.
Hopefully she's okay.
I'll update you tomorrow.
Poor baby.
Mecca!
She's in pain.
Poor baby.
Crazy.
Everybody's commenting on the school shooter comment tonight.
I have a feeling that's going to really be all over.
Maybe it won't be all over the news tomorrow.
I have a feeling they don't want to talk about it, but it should be all over the news because, well, that's crazy, right?
They want to say we're weird.
Oh, JD Vance is so weird.
No, what's weird is saying that you want to be friends with school shooters.
That is weird.
For those of you who are Jewish, Shana Tova.
Tomorrow, of course, is the first day of Rosh Hashanah, so I hope that, well, hopefully all these ballistic missiles stop getting sent into Israel from Iran and people are able to leave the bunkers and actually celebrate the new year with their family members because, well, it's terrible what's happening in Israel today.
Absolutely terrible.
Let's scroll up.
Someone said, Laura, your hair looks better than ever.
Thank you.
- Thank you.
"Laura, why did Vance not question walls of stolen valor?" I don't know.
Despite what the media says, you know, I am not involved in debate prep for Team Trump.
I have no idea.
I would have mentioned the fact that his family members have said that Kamala Harris was a third world banana republic.
I would say a lot of things.
So overall, I think that he did a good job.
You only get two minutes, by the way, right?
It's not like he could just go talk and talk and talk and talk.
He only gets a few minutes.
And so you want to get all the policies in there and talk about economic policy.
And it's a good job, of course.
A lot of Americans are more focused on the policy issues, even though stolen value, of course, is a really big deal.
But 2JD advances defense.
You only get two minutes to answer every question.
Roll up.
Laura, will you be the press secretary for Donald Trump?
I will do whatever Donald Trump asks of me.
I mean, look, I don't know what's going to happen after the election.
Pray that Donald Trump wins.
But look, if I'm offered a position, I would love to serve President Trump.
So I love President Trump.
He'll always have my support and it would be an honor to work in his administration.
Whatever that may be.
Thank you.
had more substance to his speech where Tim was on defense.
Yeah, it's true.
Tim was blaming Trump a lot where, you know, he was just like, Trump, Trump, Trump!
It's all Trump's fault!
But J.D.
Vance was the one who actually had substance.
I agree with that.
Great.
Vance was way too easy.
Yeah, you know, I thought that too.
I said, well, I know they're trying to be cordial and they're trying to, you know, have a nice, cordial debate, but I was surprised to see how Empathetic and just kind of calm, and I wouldn't say sedated, but just wasn't as aggressive as I thought it was going to be, because personally, I don't think that these people really deserve respect.
When I say these people, I'm talking about Tim Walz and Kamala Harris.
They are discussing people who have incited violence against Donald Trump and his supporters, and so I'm surprised.
But look, I'm not going to criticize J.D.
Vance for being a nice guy, but if it were me, I definitely would not have been that nice, personally.
He's a lot nicer than I am.
Let's scroll down.
Scroll down, all the way down, all the way to the bottom of the questions, all the way to the bottom.
Today is also the seven-year anniversary of the Las Vegas shooting, the Las Vegas shooting terrorist attack.
And of course, we still have absolutely no answers about, well, what happened that day.
And I wrote about it extensively, and I showed a lot of evidence that it was actually an ISIS terrorist attack, and I wrote about that in my book, so...
If you haven't already ordered my book, you can get it on my website, loomerd.com, and it's called Loomerd, How I Became the Most Banned Woman in the World, and well, there's actually an entire chapter in my book called What Happened in Vegas, where I talk about the Las Vegas shooting, and let's see.
There we go.
What happened in Vegas.
And I had a Mohammed cartoon artist, Fosh Fossen, actually make custom-made graphics and cartoons for every single chapter.
So here is the chapter for what happened in Vegas.
And so if you want to learn about the Las Vegas shooting, seven years later, of course, well, it happened on October 1st, 2017, then you can read my book.
Talk about a lot of things in here, especially the Las Vegas shooting, which was a terrorist attack.
Again, it lumered how I became the most banned woman in the world.
I noticed that today with, well, all the ballistic missiles being flown into Israel and the vice presidential debate and 35 days away from the presidential election, the seven year anniversary of the Las Vegas shooting really didn't get the attention that it deserved.
And so I just wanted to take a moment, of course, to remember all of the people who we lost that day on October 1st.
2017 in that terrible terrorist attack which our government covered up.
So take a moment of silence for all those people.
Terrible tragedy.
There's a lot to talk about, but I'm going to continue but I'm going to continue my debate coverage and my analysis on X.
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My talk this weekend in Nevada County was great.
I traveled to California, and of course, well, the radical leftists were protesting me.
They actually had a sign that said, Loomer Bad, you know, Orange Man Bad.
So it's kind of funny.
They were protesting me, and the front page of the newspaper, they tried to make it look like I was Adolf Hitler giving a speech, and it was really horrific stuff, but I gave a really great talk.
It was sold out, and it was a private event, and sold a lot of copies of my books, and Got to meet a lot of amazing patriots in Grass Valley, California, many of whom are traveling across the country right now canvassing for different organizations in swing states.
So, really amazing to be out there in California and speak to so many patriots, but here you go.
So, this was the post.
It was in the paper, actually, today.
Crowds gather to protest Loomer.
Loomer bad.
A handmade sign is held up along the intersection of Brunswick Road and Sutton Way during Saturday's protests at the presence of Laura Loomer.
They actually showed up to their Board of Supervisors meeting and they really tried to, believe it or not, they tried to get a law passed to ban me from being able to attend or speak in Grass Valley, California.
So we saw tonight the topic of free speech came up and don't let Tim Walz lie to you.
The Democrat Party is the party of censorship.
John Kerry, who was the Secretary of State under Obama, was just speaking at a conference the other day where he said that the biggest problem, the biggest problem, In democracy today is the First Amendment because they, oh, it's so pesky, that little First Amendment that makes you have to uphold the free speech rights and not censor everything you don't like is disinformation.
Okay, Kamala Harris and Joe Biden ordered Facebook to censor COVID information and censor Trump supporters.
We know that during the 2020 election, Facebook and Twitter censored the Hunter Biden laptop story and falsely labeled it as Russian disinformation.
Even though we know that it was admitted as evidence in the Hunter Biden trial.
So Donald Trump is fighting for free speech.
Make sure that you download Truth Social as well.
I'm also on Truth Social.
That's of course where President Trump posts most of his posts.
Of course he posts occasionally on Twitter.
But download Truth Social and that way you can see all of Donald Trump's posts every single day.
I have a lot of followers on Truth Social as well and follow Donald Trump and keep up with him over there.
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We are on the free speech sites, and as you know, I'm permanently banned on Facebook and Instagram.
October's a big month, though.
I'm going to be heading out to San Francisco on October 25th to give an oral argument in front of the Northern District of California for my RICO case.
So we're appealing that case after they tried to dismiss my case against the big tech social media companies.
And we'll see how that turns out.
So hopefully it all works out really well.
But I will be out there and stay tuned for that.
Right before the election.
Be interesting.
Let's take a couple more questions.
Also, in two days, I'll be releasing the trailer for my docuseries, The Great Replacement.
And at the top of my X profile right now is the pinned promo.
And the trailer is going to be released in a few days.
And then, of course, October 8th is the...
Debut of the first episode.
It's a five-part series, so stay tuned because, well, it's going to be a really great, really great docu-series.
We outline how we are being replaced, so I think you're going to really enjoy it.
And if you want to support the costs associated with that, Well, you can subscribe to me on X. You can go to my website, Loomerd.com, and make a donation as well, because there's a lot of fees associated with production costs, of course, and we're pushing out content non-stop.
Let's go ahead and play the promo, and then, of course, stay tuned for two days.
I guess that's the day of the Thursday show, right?
So we could even play the promo the day of the Thursday show.
So we'll play the promo, or the trailer, rather.
This is the promo.
The official trailer will come out on Thursday.
So the next episode of Loomer Unleashed will be on Thursday, October 3rd.
Make sure that you tune in for that episode as well.
Let's go ahead and play the promo.
More than 172,000 migrants were encountered at the U.S.-Mexico border in March.
It is a record-breaking number.
Border arrests have soared to an all-time high.
New numbers released today detail an all-time high for unaccompanied children seeking asylum.
1.7 million migrants have been arrested along the U.S.-Mexico border in the last fiscal year.
Our immigration system is broken.
Now the suspect in the case, an undocumented immigrant with a lengthy criminal past.
Armed men walking through a building, knocking on doors.
Your uptick in the amount of drugs coming over our southern border.
I think it's at this point unsustainable to maintain this unlimited flow into what's essentially a welfare state.
This will be one of the greatest mistakes in history.
They've destroyed the fabric of our country.
So stay tuned.
I'm really excited for the first episode to debut on October 8th.
Again, there's going to be five episodes.
Very, very exciting.
And thank you to those of you who are supporting the production of The Great Replacement.
With that, I hope that all of you enjoyed tonight's live debate coverage.
We had a lot of viewers tonight.
We were on the front page of Rumble, so thank you to everyone.
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With that, I want to thank all of you so much for watching the vice presidential debate with me tonight.
Make a plan to vote, 35 days and in a few days.
And already now, early voting has already started in some states across the nation, so please make sure that you are registered to vote before the deadline because there's cutoffs in each state for registering to vote.
And if you're not going to be in town on election day, November 5th, then vote early, okay?
Do not miss out on this opportunity to vote, the most consequential election of our lifetime.
Also be sure that you're following, if you're, I can't imagine that anybody's undecided, but if they are undecided, keep on watching J.D.
Vance and keep on watching Donald Trump.
If you go to donaldjtrump.com, we'll go right now.
DonaldJTrump.com you can click on the events section at the top in the drop down corner and you can see all the different rallies.
He was just in Wisconsin today and well on Thursday he's back in Saginaw, Michigan for a rally and then on the 4th on Friday he's going to be in Fayetteville, North Carolina.
On the 5th, he's going back to Butler, Pennsylvania, which of course is the location of where he was almost assassinated by Thomas Matthew Crooks.
So that should be a very emotional rally where they're going to be honoring those who were shot, including Corey Comparatore, the firefighter who tragically lost his life that day.
So I know that that event is already sold out.
When I say sold out, I mean tickets are closed because we'll All the Trump events are free to attend except the private fundraisers and photo opportunities, but you can scroll down and make sure that you get tickets.
I do know though that the one for Butler, I mean, maybe they expanded it, but last time I checked it was closed.
Oh, well, they actually have opened it up again.
Okay, they opened it up.
So I guess you can.
Earlier when I checked it, it said that it was closed because of max capacity.
So be sure that you get your tickets.
It's going to be a great weekend watching President Trump and all these swing states where he's leading.
But with that, thank you so much for tuning in tonight.
I hope you all enjoyed the live debate coverage.
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I'm your host, Laura Loomer, and I will see you again this Thursday for another live episode of Loomer Unleashed.
There is a young female journalist, conservative journalist, by the name of Laura Loomer.
If America's men acted like Laura Loomer, our problems would be fixed in about five minutes.
Chained herself to the ground?
Is she chained?
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