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EP53: HUNTER GETS OFF: Joe Biden's Secret Plan to Commute His Son's Sentence as Trump Witch Hunt ContinuesEP53: HUNTER GETS OFF: Joe Biden's Secret Plan to Commute His Son's Sentence as Trump Witch Hunt Continues
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I'm your host, Laura Lumer.
On Tuesday, Hunter Biden was found guilty on all three counts in his federal gun crime case.
After deliberation, the jury determined that the son of the illegitimate President of the United States of America has violated laws prohibiting firearms ownership to illegal drug abusers.
And we all know how much of a drug user Hunter Biden is.
And we all know that Hunter Biden is a deplorable, vile human being.
Words cannot fully convey what a despicable piece of shit this guy actually is.
The laptop scandal, despite the Deep State's attempt to bury the story and falsely label it as Russian disinformation in a letter that was signed off on by 51 intelligence officials, reveals that Hunter's life has revolved around near-constant drug abuse and prostitution.
From meth to crack cocaine, Hunter Biden seemed to have little preference as to which illegal substance he was taking.
While binging on these drugs and sleeping with hookers, he happily photographed himself naked and in the act, saving these images to his laptop for later viewing, apparently.
And unfortunately, you know, many of us have had to see those images.
But this only begins to scratch the surface of what Hunter Biden and the Biden family at large have been up to over the last few years.
Many people remember Joe Biden's other son, Beau, who died from a brain tumor back in 2015.
Few people, however, know that Bo's wife, Hallie, started hooking up and having sex with her brother-in-law, Hunter Biden, just a few months after Bo died.
Although, many people believe that the affair actually began while Bo was alive, but on his deathbed.
Talk about keeping it in the family, I suppose.
As was discussed in his trial, Hunter also got Hallie, you know, his dead brother's wife, hooked on crack.
So, very wholesome family, as you can see.
This is a known fact, but many have speculated that things are even more disturbing and disgusting behind closed doors.
Of particular focus is Hunter Biden's relationship with his niece, Natalie.
Once Natalie's father, Beau, died and her mother started a sexual relationship with her uncle, Hunter, things seem to have gotten a bit weird.
Text messages from Hunter's laptop indicate strange conversations about, and also directly with, Natalie.
Perhaps this echoes Joe Biden's own odd sexual interactions with his own daughter Ashley when she was younger, as she wrote about in her now infamous diary.
I'm of course referring to the nude showers together well into Ashley's adolescence, all of which has been documented in her diary, which of course has been verified as being true and legitimate by the DOJ and the FBI.
You know, a Florida woman just was sentenced to a month in jail for stealing the diary that was left behind at a drug rehab facility.
So without going into further detail, this all points to Hunter and the rest of the degenerate Biden family as being deeply disturbed and also intimately involved with non-stop criminal behavior.
I think for most of the people on the right, this comes as no surprise.
Many of the political families in America are like this.
The Bidens are simply having their skeletons exposed for the world to see.
Since Tuesday, the White House has predictably been busy running cover for Hunter Biden.
They actually have the gall to try spinning Hunter's conviction as a reaffirmation of the efficacy of the American judicial system and proof that no one is above the law.
They're using this talking point as a foil to the right's claims that President Donald Trump was just subjected to a corrupt kangaroo court in New York.
Apparently, Hunter is now the sacrificial lamb that the left is going to use to try to get all of us to buy back into the legitimacy of our broken justice system.
What a joke.
Joe Biden has also used Hunter's guilty conviction to gaslight the American people into believing that his son Hunter Biden is a so-called recovered addict.
Just don't ask any questions about who brought those bags of cocaine into the White House a few months ago.
You see, the difference between the two cases is extreme, but that matters little to the left.
While Donald Trump was found guilty of dozens of felony counts of alleged false business reporting, a nebulous claim to begin with if we're being honest here, there is literal photographic evidence of Hunter Biden smoking crack in bed with hookers and prostitutes.
I shouldn't even need to point out how different these two cases are, and I think most Americans get it.
However, while it is important to highlight the crimes and corruption of America's first family, we cannot allow ourselves to become too distracted with this obvious sideshow.
We cannot get sucked into this game of whataboutism with the left.
They're literally trying to gaslight all of us into thinking that Trump's trial was fair after all, that Judge Mershawn was unbiased, and that, you know, our judicial system in this country isn't rigged.
But we all know better than that, and we know that our system is rigged, and so we must stick to our guns on this issue.
Yes, actually, our court system is rigged against right-wingers and President Trump.
Yes, there is an expansive legal witch hunt underway To attempt to obstruct Trump from campaigning.
This is election interference.
And yes, the deep state will do everything in their power to prevent Donald Trump from winning.
And should they fail, they will do whatever is necessary to keep his new administration under wraps.
We must keep our eyes focused on the prize this November and beyond.
And if we're being honest, Joe Biden will probably just pardon his son.
He said he wasn't going to.
But he'll probably just end up commuting Hunter Biden's sentence on his way out of office anyway.
You know, and they'll just say it's an issue of semantics.
I never said I was going to pardon my son.
I said I wasn't going to pardon my son.
I never said that I wasn't going to commute his sentence.
Because there is an obvious difference, of course, between a pardon and a commutation of somebody's sentence.
But, you know, when we really get down to things, Hunter Biden's antics aren't really going to move the dial on Election Day this November.
I don't think anyone is going into the polls this fall with Hunter Biden's meth and crack addiction at the forefront of their mind.
Let's be honest, we already knew about this in 2020.
They're far more likely to be thinking about Donald Trump's plan to fix our screwed up economy, to secure our open border, and to end the violent conflicts flaring around the world on U.S.
taxpayers' dime.
That is what all of us in MAGA and in the right-wing media sphere should be focusing on.
Energizing the MAGA base, articulating the policies of a second Trump term, and ensuring that the future Trump administration is not infiltrated and co-opted by rhinos and leftists.
That is the mission, period.
There is a young female journalist, conservative journalist, by the name of Laura Loomer.
If America's men acted like Laura Loomer, our problems would be fixed in about five minutes.
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Well, thank you so much to everybody who's tuning in to episode 53 of Loomer Unleashed tonight.
I'm your host, Laura Loomer.
We have so much to talk about, you know.
President Trump was on Capitol Hill today.
He is back in the swamp, really for the first time since his guilty conviction in New York City.
It was a very interesting day today watching so many of these House GOP members audition for the Veep stakes and also pretend like they actually support Donald Trump.
And now, of course, you see all of these Republicans and the Senators and, you know, the members of Congress putting out their statements about how, oh, we're all unified to get Donald Trump elected.
Yeah.
A hundred percent unity would actually require a hundred percent endorsements from all members of Congress and all members of the United States Senate.
But as I have pointed out extensively in the list that I've been posting to my social media accounts and also been talking about on the show ad nauseum for the last, what, I don't know, 12 months now, we have seen that that's not the case, right?
And there are many senators and there are still, what is it, 12 United States senators and several members of the United States Congress who have still not endorsed President Donald Trump.
So I'm just here to keep it real with you because why would you want to be gaslit?
Why would you want to be gaslit by the Republican Party?
You don't want to be gaslit by people and told that, you know, oh, wow, we actually have unity in the GOP.
Why We don't have unity in the GOP.
Everybody is getting nervous now because they know that, you know, the basis with Donald Trump.
He was found guilty and he's raised almost 500 million dollars.
I said 50.
No, it's 500.
500 million dollars this man has raised since his guilty verdict and the money just keeps on flowing in and in and in.
They're all just sucking up to him, and rightfully so, because as some of these people have learned, right?
F-A-F-O.
F around and find out, just like, uh...
Bob Good, for example, is going to find out on Tuesday, the day of the Virginia primary.
Once you cross Donald Trump, there's no going back, right?
There's no going back.
And you'll notice that my earpiece keeps falling out.
My standard earpiece actually broke right before the show.
So, just one of those little technical difficulties that we're going to have to deal with tonight.
But I have this custom earpiece because I have the tiniest little eardrums.
A little fun fact about me.
And so I had to get a custom earpiece made, and my custom earpiece, I don't know what happened to it.
I think the wire broke, so I have to use headphones tonight, unfortunately.
So if you see it pop out tonight a couple times, it's because I have the tiniest little eardrums, and I literally had to get a specialized mold to fit in my ear.
And so I had to order a couple new earpieces since my custom ear for my little deformed eardrums broke tonight.
So hopefully you'll just be bearing with me.
We're going to be joined momentarily by Rick Manning, the President of Americans for Limited Government.
And, you know, look, you've seen that since President Trump's guilty verdict, the Republicans, of course, have every distraction in the book to not want to talk about the guilty verdict, right?
They've kind of moved on, and as I just talked about in my monologue, the Hunter Biden guilty verdict has provided the perfect cover for House Republicans to talk about convicted felon Hunter Biden as if, yeah, that's really going to matter.
Joe Biden will just commute his sentence anyway.
We all know it.
But this is a way for Republicans, of course, to just Not be held accountable for their lack of effort pushing subpoenas.
They did not push any subpoenas of Judge Mershon or his daughter, Lauren Mershon, who I, of course, exposed extensively here over the last several months throughout the trial.
And that's a big problem because now, as I said in the monologue tonight, you're going to see a lot of these Republicans fall for the Democrats' claim that we have a fair justice system in this country.
Just because, oh, little, you know, drug addict Hunter Biden was found guilty, and, oh, Joe Biden had to cancel his press briefing, and then he ended up, uh, going to Delaware to meet his son in a very staged photo op on the tarmac, and, you know, now he's at the G7 Summit in Italy with, um, with, uh, you know, uh, Maloney, who is basically having to play babysitter because Joe Biden is dazed and confused going through his sundowners phase.
We have to listen to Joe Biden talk about how his son, oh my son Hunter, he's just the brightest man I've ever met in my life and oh my son Hunter he's such a good guy and he's a recovered addict and oh there's so many Americans that are struggling with addiction and oh I'm so relatable because my son who's a recovered addict who's not actually a recovered addict because you know Secret Service keeps finding bags of cocaine and
Oh, I guess that puts me in a tough position because, oh, I guess people are going to start asking questions about whether or not that's my cocaine because I'm obviously on drugs because, you know, I'm crapping my pants overseas and I can't function.
So, is it my cocaine or is it my son's cocaine?
And if it's my son's cocaine, I can't really keep going around calling him a recovered addict.
I mean, that's really what we're dealing with here, folks, OK?
Everybody knows that Joe Biden's son is not a recovered addict.
It's the most abusive form of emotional manipulation and gaslighting as this administration continues to have an open southern border with fentanyl pouring across.
Every single day, innocent Americans are dying in either intentional or unintentional drug overdoses because of the drug epidemic in our country, which has only gotten worse with Joe Biden's open borders.
It's an insult.
It's an insult to the many Americans in this country who not only struggle with addiction issues, but the many Americans who can't afford rehab.
I mean, we're talking about Hunter Biden, the son of the illegitimate occupant of the White House, who is a multimillionaire, who could afford to have a live-in rehab counselor if he really wanted to.
You know, they have all these types of rehab facilities for the rich and famous.
And, you know, you have standard rehab where you go to a facility with other people.
And then they have this five-star rehab program where you can go.
They have these things in Malibu.
They have them in Hawaii.
They have them all over, actually.
They have them overseas.
They even have them in your own home if you're rich enough and you pay for your own private doctor and addiction counselor to come to your home.
And so Hunter Biden has the money, if he really wanted to, to have a live-in doctor.
He could have a live-in life coach or addiction specialist.
And so I find it to be incredibly insulting when Joe Biden says that his son is a recovered addict because Look, the cocaine didn't just find its way in the White House randomly.
It either belongs to Joe Biden so that he can stay awake, or it belongs to Hunter Biden.
And, you know, I'm not a betting woman.
I don't go to the casinos.
I don't gamble.
I don't drink.
I don't do drugs like Hunter Biden.
But if I did, I would probably bet a lot of money at the casino that that cocaine belonged to Hunter Biden.
So hopefully, hopefully we start to see some accountability in our country.
And joining me now to discuss, well momentarily, I guess he's connecting now, he's going to be connecting momentarily to discuss this lack of accountability in Washington, D.C.
We're having a bit of a connection issue with Rick here, but we'll get him on momentarily.
And we'll play those clips for you as well.
I mean, I don't know if you saw the clips today from the G7 summit, but it was just unbelievable.
Not only did Joe Biden wander around aimlessly having to be guided by other world leaders, but he also held a press conference with Zelensky, you know, the guy that's received over $400 billion of our taxpayer money.
Yeah, that guy.
So during this press conference, Joe was actually asked about Hunter Biden and whether or not he was going to pardon his son and We'll play that clip momentarily.
I believe we have Rick momentarily.
Rick's having a bit of an issue connecting, but we'll get him any minute now.
But I'll continue this story because it was quite funny today.
So Hunter Biden, of course, was found guilty.
And then Joe Biden was asked during his press conference with Zelensky if he was going to be pardoning his son and whether or not he felt that Hunter Biden received a fair trial.
After President Trump was complaining that he himself didn't receive a fair trial.
And so Joe Biden took the moment to, you know, pretend like our justice system was fair and that, you know, oh, well, I'm going to respect the decision of the courts and I'm going to respect, you know, the verdict that came down.
And then he kind of mumbled at the end, ironically, right?
When he chooses to mumble and slur his words, it's the it's the part where he's talking about whether or not he's going to pardon his son.
But as I explained in the monologue, There's a difference between a pardon and a commutation of a sentence.
Just look at Roger Stone, for example.
Roger Stone had his sentence commuted, okay?
A lot of people have had their sentence commuted.
Roger didn't ask for a pardon.
He wanted his sentence commuted, so he received a sentence commutation.
Hunter Biden was found guilty, okay?
And he's going to be sentenced.
And Joe Biden could still be telling the truth when he says, I'm not going to pardon my son.
Notice that Joe Biden, excuse me, did not say, oh, I'm not going to commute my son's sentence, right?
He said, I'm not going to pardon my son.
So it's really important because there's a big difference between getting a pardon and then also having your sentence commuted.
And Joe Biden very well could commute his son's sentence.
And I notice that nobody's talking about, you know, nobody has asked him, hey, are you going to commute your son's sentence?
Because Joe Biden will just say, hey, you know, I'm going to commute my son's sentence.
But I kept my promise.
I never pardoned my son.
I'm not a liar.
I said I wasn't going to pardon my son.
So a lot of people have not really thought about that.
Do we have that clip from Joe Biden before we bring Rick on?
Let's actually play that clip, because I'll talk to Rick about this as well when he joins.
But I want to play the clip so that people can hear the words, because it's an issue of semantics, this question that Joe Biden was asked.
And let's go ahead and play the clip.
This is from his United States-Ukraine press conference on the bilateral security agreement in Italy today.
Where he answered questions next to Zelensky.
Barely!
Had to leave the stage early after stuttering his words.
So go ahead and play the clip.
About two weeks ago, you changed course to allow Ukraine to fire U.S.
weapons into Russia.
Given the reported successes, would you consider further expanding the parameters on U.S.
weapons into Russia, even despite your concerns about escalation?
And on the news from home, you're going through something that so many American families go through, the intersection of addiction and the criminal justice system.
But you're not like most families.
Was your son able to get a fair trial?
Do you believe the Justice Department operated independently of politics?
And for President — Let me answer your question, and you ask his question, okay?
With regard to the first question, it is clear that the near-abroad — meaning just across the line of the border with Russia and Ukraine — That it makes a lot of sense for Ukraine to be able to take out or combat what is coming across that border.
In terms of long, long range weapons, longer range weapons into the interior of Russia, we have not changed our position on that sort.
With regard to the question regarding the family, I'm extremely proud of my son, Hunter.
He has overcome an addiction.
He is.
He's one of the brightest, most decent men I know.
And I am satisfied that I'm not going to do anything.
I said I'd abide by the jury decision.
I will do that, and I will not pardon him.
So, I will not pardon him.
He didn't say, I will not, uh, you know, commute his sentence.
So joining me now to discuss is Rick Manning, the president of Americans for Limited Government.
Rick, thanks so much for joining me tonight.
I really appreciate it.
My pleasure, Laura.
You know, one of the things as we look at the Hunter Biden situation, we can't let there be an equivalency here.
Let's understand Hunter Biden broke the law and the Justice Department attempted to bury that.
They attempted to say that the laptop which led him to this revelation was invalid for four years.
They sat on it.
They denied it.
They got so-called intelligence officials to say it was Russian disinformation.
And then they entered it into actual evidence saying, no, this is all true, which causes other problems for Joe Biden.
But be that as it may, Hunter Biden was guilty of something.
Donald Trump, on the other hand, had a judge who, as you disclosed, was conflicted.
His daughter was raising huge amounts of money off of the trial.
He had a judge who was making decisions that said, gee, we're not going to let you talk to anybody and bring in Brad Smith from the FEC to show that, in fact, there was no underlying crime or no federal crime that was being avoided.
He was not guilty of anything on a federal level.
And so the whole reason, the whole rationale behind the Trump trial, the Trump prosecution, was false.
And the jury was never allowed to hear that.
The entire premise of the trial in New York was to get President Trump.
It had nothing to do with justice, and he committed no crimes.
Hence, but the jury was not allowed by the judge, whose daughter was making a lot of money on this, was not allowed to actually hear the defense's case that there was no underlying crime and so they were left with an impression there was an underlying crime that was false and as a result beyond the fact that there's constitutional violations this is a this is a travesty and the republicans
Need to get off the idea of the Hunter, talking about the Hunter Biden thing, because that's meaningless except for the proof that the FBI buried the laptop.
Right.
What matters is we have our candidate for president who is likely going to be accepting his Republican nomination from behind bars.
That's what matters, the manipulation that exists.
And Laura, you know, I appreciate the work you've done to uncover the spending and the massive Uh conflict of financial conflict of interest that exists and to complement that we've put up a take action to urge Members of congress to tell direct and tell James Comer chairman of the house oversight and accountability committee to tell him to issue subpoenas to both the daughter and the judge And say, we need to get to the bottom of this.
Was there connections?
Were you communicating about the financial value of this?
And was this, in fact, a rigged trial based on an effort by a judge to get a lot of money into his family's coffers?
Yeah, you know I saw the call to action and we have that now.
The first call to action which was urging lawsuits to be filed by different United States Attorneys Generals against the New York State Supreme Court for basically violating the constitutional rights of President Donald Trump and really just not upholding his due process.
I didn't see the call to action for calling on James Comer to send the subpoenas on your site yet, so hopefully that gets updated later.
If anybody goes to getliberty.org, it should be up there, and there's a button, you just push the button, you can take action.
Okay, great.
Because I know that that was updated earlier today, but I know that this one that we're looking at right now, the United States Attorney General to sue New York, Well, the New York U.S.
Supreme Court to stop election interference and overturn the Trump conviction, if we want to get that full screen here so people can see it.
Where do people go so that they can sign this?
Yeah, if you go to GetLiberty.org, that's GetLiberty.org, there's a button that you can push.
It's right there on the top of the screen, you know, in the middle of the screen when you pull it up.
Just push the button, it'll take you directly to this page.
And here's what we're doing.
This is why we're doing this.
A lot of people out there have given money and are doing everything they can think of.
Well, one of the things that I think needs to happen to make sure the Supreme Court, the U.S.
Supreme Court, gets involved is to have state attorney generals to sue the state of New York.
Because if you have two states suing one another, or one state suing another state, the Supreme Court is the court of jurisdiction.
So, the Supreme Court, that goes to the Supreme Court.
They have to deal with it.
Now, they may choose not to deal with it.
They may say, oh, well, State, you have no standing on this, but they have to deal with it.
And given the fact that President Trump is appealing, we need to force the Supreme Court to not just ignore this, not to do what they did with the Pennsylvania case before the 2020 election, where they said, well, Pennsylvania, State of Pennsylvania changed their laws, held an illegal election by allowing voters, people to vote absentee who were not absentee, just do mail-in ballots.
That was illegal under Pennsylvania law.
The Supreme Court said, no, we're going to wait until after the election.
And then after the election, they said, well, sorry, it's too late.
The election's already been held.
We can't allow that to occur with this election.
We have to, with this situation, this is election interference and the people of Idaho, just as the people of Idaho, the people of Florida, people of Texas deserve to be able to have a fair and honest election.
And when the state of New York is putting their thumb on the scale and allowing people to believe, Oh, president Trump was guilty of something.
And you're now, and skews the entire outcome of this election based on that kind of rhetoric.
That's something which has to be dealt with, and the Supreme Court has to say no.
You can't violate a man's Sixth Amendment right to know what he's being charged with and get away with it because you're trying to manipulate the election.
You cannot do that.
State of New York, you are wrong, and it's up to you.
To me, it seems the state attorney generals, the attorneys general, whether it's Idaho, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, don't care.
They have a responsibility to step in and say, I'm representing the people of my state.
We have a right to have a fair shot to win this election.
And darn it, Supreme Court, you need to step in.
That's your job.
So what are you going to do with the information that's collected on these forms?
Because, you know, a lot of people will say, oh, you know, these forms are just used to collect email addresses.
But what's actually going to be done?
Because I know that you today were actually, I spoke with you earlier today, and you were actually up on Capitol Hill meeting with lawmakers.
And so you are actually planning on taking this information to lawmakers, correct?
And you are having meetings with the Speaker's office.
and other people, other Republican members of House leadership so that you can hopefully push for subpoenas and also action on this, correct?
Because I just wanna make sure that people know where their information is going. - In fact, I'm calling, yeah, I'm calling state attorney generals this week and next following up on this to try to encourage them to actually take action.
But having people from in state contacting them directly is one of the best ways to set the stage for them to go ahead and do this.
Those calls, those emails that you sent to state attorney generals, are following up a letter which we sent to them laying out the legal case for why they should do this.
In terms of what happens, we had there on the form there's an opt-in Thank you.
If you receive them from Americans for Limited, we'll sell your information, anything like that.
But if you want to receive the daily information that we send out, different articles on different issues that are going on that we produce, it is a, you know, then you can opt in and you get that.
If you don't opt out, you don't.
And that's all that happens with your information.
So, you know, you're going to be communicating in that instance with your state attorney general.
And obviously, it's hoped that your state attorney general is responsive enough that they'll email you back and thank you for contacting them.
But if you don't want to receive anything else from us ever again, fine, just opt out.
I, you know, no skin off my nose.
What I'm trying to do is send a message to these attorney generals that they can't sit passively by.
They were elected by their constituents to fight.
If they're not willing to fight, then we can find somebody else who will, because we are not in a situation in this country anymore where we can lay back and just say, well, everything will work its way out.
No, we have to, the other side, open a whole city.
against freedom in this country.
And we have to have those we elected to protect our constitution, to stand up and say, we will not allow this to occur.
And that's why the state attorney general need to get involved.
They need to grow, you know, say, this is worth it.
This is a fight worth having.
And that's what we're trying to do.
Because quite honestly, we cannot let President Trump stand alone and bear this while Republicans sit there and want to talk about Hunter Biden and try to create some kind of equivalency. - So you agree with the monologue
I mean, in my opening monologue tonight I talked about this, how really it's really nothing more than a distraction because they want to pretend like we have a fair justice system and it's being used to distract and also delegitimize President Trump and make him look like a crybaby even though he has, you know, a just grievance and acts to grind.
President Trump is not behaving like a crybaby like the media is saying.
I mean, I see the leftist media says, Oh, Donald Trump just wants to cry about, you know, his guilty verdict and how he's treated and all of his grievances.
No, you know, President Trump has been mistreated and this is a rigged system.
And, I mean, do you agree with my analysis of this?
I think that it's a semantics game.
I think that Joe Biden is saying, I'm not going to pardon my son, but then in the end, he's just going to commute his son's sentence.
And then people are going to say, hey, you lied.
You said that you weren't going to pardon your son.
And then he's going to say, oh, I kept my promise.
There's a difference between a pardon and a commutation.
Well, first of all, I think for 95 percent of the people out there, they don't give one whit what happens to Hunter Biden.
The truth be told, you know, the guy, the guy's a drug addict.
He bought a gun.
He lied on the forum and he's been found guilty of doing that.
I think the piece of it that in the L.A.
trial that will happen later on related to the financial connections around the world And some of those things that were discovered through the laptop, I think that's far more significant because it directly relates to the president.
But, you know, the truth of the matter is, the danger of this is we have an outpouring of people around this country who are saying this is wrong.
We have ACLU liberal lawyers saying it is inconceivable that Donald Trump was found guilty in this case.
We have this awakening that's occurring about the kind of the woke attempt to destroy Donald Trump at all costs and the damage it's doing to our system of justice.
We have to stand up for the rule of law and we have to demand, and I'm using that term, I don't use the term demand when it comes to legislators very often, but we have to demand that our legislators grow a pair and stand up for the rule of law and stand up against this Because, quite honestly, I'm tired of Roger Stone being rousted at 6 a.m.
and dragged off, Paul Manafort being rousted at 6 a.m.
and being dragged off.
I'm tired of Steve Bannon, the Congress, saying, well, gee, you know, you didn't follow the subpoena, when, in fact, he was seeking a judicial relief, and after the judicial relief was not granted, he said, I'll come talk to you, and the Congress said, no, no, the Democrats, we don't really want to talk to you, we want to jail you.
So Steve Bannon being marched out to jail.
There is a systematic attempt by the left to effectively take out those who are leaders for Donald Trump.
The Fannie Willis case is about trying to eliminate the lawyers who support Donald Trump.
Every one of these cases has something to do with negating the ability for Donald Trump To be able to run an effective campaign and to create an environment where he cannot win.
And if we don't stand up for those people, we elect don't stand up and say, we will not put up with this.
If they don't do that, then quite honestly.
It's a we're in deep trouble and it's up to we have those of us who understand this need to explain it to those who are sitting in Washington D.C.
or in their state capitals thinking, oh, well, it's just business as usual.
It isn't business as usual.
The system, the very fabric of society has been torn.
And if we're not, and it's really hard to put Humpty Dumpty back together again, we have to stand up now.
So why do you think then, why do you think that none of the Republicans have issued subpoenas?
Because we have a clip actually, Loomer Unleashed, we, my DC correspondent Charles Downs, actually confronted Comer, of course, who has the subpoena power and, you know, Chairman Comer, From our sources in my reporting, we reported a story about how Comer's been blocking efforts to send a subpoena to Lauren Mershon, the daughter of Judge Mershon, who of course is the president of Authentic Campaigns, a Democrat political consulting firm.
And when we asked, you know, Chairman Comer, hey, what about this report that says that you're blocking a subpoena, He said, that's a lie.
That's a lie.
But he's still not announced a subpoena for Lauren Mershon.
So really, the question is, if it's a lie, why not send a subpoena?
You have enough information.
It shows that Democrats are sending millions of dollars to her house.
So I want to play this clip and get your take on it, because it's really the elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about.
Chairman Comer, why won't you subpoena Lauren Mershon?
There's, like, reports that, like, that wanted to go down, but you blocked it.
Is that true?
That is not true.
That is 100% a lie.
100% a lie?
100% a lie.
Just confirming, you're saying those reports that you blocked the subpoenas are lies?
That is 100% live.
So what do you think about that?
Ha ha.
Well, you know, here's how subpoenas work in the House.
The chairman can say we want to subpoena something, but it has to be approved through the Speaker's office.
So if there is a subpoena that they've been trying to get done, and Comer isn't blocking it, then he's, by inference, is saying that Speaker Johnson's blocking it.
I don't actually believe that's probable.
So, you know, we may be dealing with a semantic situation here, but the proof's in the pudding.
You know, he's either going to issue a subpoena or not, and that's why we put this Take Action together that's separate from the New York Attorney General lawsuit that you can find at Liberty.org.
It should be a button right there on the front page of that website, which is our corporate website.
Go there, push the button, and the first thing we do is we don't tell you to send an email right off.
We give the phone number for the House Oversight Committee and say, call the House Oversight Committee and ask them where the subpoena is.
Okay.
And so the objective here is to get hundreds of thousands of people to call that committee and demand that we stand up and we try to get to the bottom of the corruption that exists when a judge's daughter is making millions of dollars, having money directly delivered to her home.
The judge himself is denying witnesses that would be exculpatory for President Trump.
He might just be a really bad judge, or he might be somebody whose daughter's making a lot of money, and a conviction was in his family's financial interests, and there was no other outcome that could be imagined.
Either way, The House Oversight and Accountability Committee has a duty, sworn duty, to get to the bottom of this election interference and get to the bottom of it right now.
It just really, it's mind-blowing, right?
President Trump was up on Capitol Hill today, and he met with House Republicans and, you know, the GOP Senate leadership as well, and they say, you know, they're 100% united, but don't you think that it's a little bit disingenuous for them to say that they're 100% united?
If they truly were 100% united, right, wouldn't that mean, mathematically, that we would have 100% endorsements for Donald Trump?
We still have 12 United States senators, Rick, who have not endorsed Donald Trump.
We still have several members of Congress in the Republican Party, including Thomas Massey, who has not endorsed President Trump.
And I think that that's a problem.
And it just goes to show you, you know, we're not going to see subpoenas.
We're not going to see action taken on these matters or the calls to action if we can't even get Republicans United to support Trump.
And they can have their press conferences all they want, like they did today, and say that they support Trump.
But I find it to be a little disingenuous.
What did you think about President Trump's return to Washington, D.C.
today?
Well, I thought it was important that he have that kind of press conference showing unity because the thing the left is trying to do is take every single Larry Hogan.
Larry Hogan's former governor of Maryland, who's got the Republican nomination for the Senate in Maryland, who is really anxious to spend tens of millions of dollars in support.
On a failed race.
Yeah, they want to spend, in Maryland, We're not going to win Maryland.
We're not going to win Maryland.
And you know, it's so funny, it's so funny, Rick.
It's funny that you bring this up, because, you know, Larry Hogan's fundraising emails today, I saw that he doubled down and said, oh, well, if Donald Trump wants to endorse me, I'm still not going to support him, just like I didn't support him in 2016 and 2020.
But he's fundraising off of Donald Trump's indictments.
If you look at the NRSC emails that are going out, Larry Hogan is actually raising money off of Donald Trump's image, name, and likeness.
So if he's going to be a jerk and reject Trump's endorsement and then also say, oh, I'm not going to support the GOP nominee, then maybe President Trump should send him a cease and desist so that he can't use his image, name, and likeness for his fundraising emails anymore.
Well, he'll have to send the NRSC a cease and desist.
And unfortunately, I think he's kind of signed over his image and likeness.
to the political parties, and I think that was a mistake on his part.
I will tell you this.
I live in Maryland.
I've known Larry Hogan.
I first met Larry Hogan in 1994.
I've met with him over time on various things.
Truth be told, when a guy gets up there and says, I'm not, I'm going to vote whatever's in the best interest of Maryland.
I'm not going to vote based on party.
Then I don't, then single, the only rationale for voting for Larry Hogan in the general election is that he's going to vote for a Republican to be the majority leader.
I don't have any evidence that he's going to vote for a Republican as majority leader because he may view a Democrat as being the right answer for Maryland in terms of majority leader.
I've seen Syrians and runs saying, I'm independent.
I'm attacking Trump.
Trump supported the Trump impeachments, who's continually sought to undercut President Trump.
And we can have political differences, but there's no uniting behind Trump for Larry Hogan.
And he can't expect me, as somebody who lives in Maryland and runs an organization, although we're based in Virginia, we have a lot of people who live in Maryland who are part of our organization, To expect me to then endorse him based on some party loyalty, when in fact he has no party loyalty himself.
And given that, I would rather have somebody shooting from outside the tent at us than have somebody inside the tent shooting us in the back.
And so just right now, Larry Hogan has lost my vote as somebody who supports Donald Trump.
And it's a, and I think anybody in a circumstance like this has to strongly consider whether or not somebody who is avowedly never Trump can be trusted in a world where the left is going to continually be angling to, to get Trump.
And I'm thinking particularly in the, after you've had a midterm election in 2026 and you have a likely, you know, at least one of the houses.
Take it over by the Democrats in 2027 and likely another impeachment of Trump because that's all the Democrats know how to do.
They don't have policies.
They just want to impeach Trump.
So it doesn't matter what the issue is.
They'll find a way to impeach him.
I don't want Larry Hogan being standing up first thing and say, yeah, he needs to be impeached because he's seeking some kind of a headline in the Washington Post.
And quite honestly, don't trust him.
Won't vote for him.
And, you know, he can't tell me, or he shouldn't be able to tell anybody.
Gee, we have to come around him because the only vote that really matters is the first one.
Well, I'm sorry, but no, the votes that matter are the ones where we sit there and we're trying to get something done and we're stuck trying to wait on a Murkowski and a Hogan and Collins trying to figure out how to get a Supreme Court justice confirmed.
I don't trust him.
I don't want him there.
I certainly don't want him being the headline in the Washington Post saying, Hogan breaks ranks on every single issue, providing an out for every other Republican is a squish to be able to say and run away from Trump.
I mean, heck with him.
Absolutely.
And good on you for saying you're not going to vote for him because, you know, so many people would say, oh, you know, I'm just going to vote for a guy with an R next to his name.
Even if he is basically like a Democrat, like a Mitt Romney, you know?
Like a Mitt Romney who didn't even show up to the meeting today with President Trump.
Well, you know what?
Mitt Romney doesn't support Trump, and it's somewhat honest of him not to show up.
But it just reminds us how lucky we are that he said he wasn't going to run again because he couldn't get re-elected in Utah.
And that's why voting matters.
It's why getting involved early matters.
It's why letting these guys know, hey, you're either going to vote my interest or you're not going to vote my interest, but you're not going to vote my interest.
I'm not going to vote for you.
Well, it's great that you're a Trump ally, and it's great that you're using your organization to raise awareness about the witch hunt and the abuse of our justice system and weaponized government.
What are some other measures that Americans for Limited Government are working on right now, and some other legislative issues or, I guess, public advocacy issues that you're pushing right now?
Laura, one of my passions is draining the swamp.
This is something that we've been working on for a long time.
And one of the reasons I go around the Hill was on the Hill today was to talk to the legislators about when Trump wins, first thing out of the box, doing a reduction in force to the federal workforce, 10 to 20%, doing a buy-in so you get people to retire early so we can replace them with people who are going to be
pushing a legitimate civil service goal of the political's agenda, the elected president's agenda, which is what the civil service is supposed to do.
Talked about how to deal with some of the regulations and cut the regulations out and use some of the legislative processes to do that and what needs to be done now to get that done.
And also how to streamline the firing system so public employees who sit there and they take sometimes a year to a year and a half to get somebody fired Who physically abused their coworkers and he can't get them fired.
And there's a way to do to fix that.
And so I talked to him about that also.
So draining the swamp matters because ultimately if we don't drain the swamp, Donald Trump as the elected representative will spend every single day swimming against a strong current of people who refuse, refuse to pull the levers of power to do what he was elected to do.
And that is a, and the administrative state cannot win.
We have to, we have to make.
The bureaucrats responsive to the elected officials rather than the bureaucrats driving the policy regardless of who gets elected.
That's called elective.
That's our democratic republic that we have.
That's how it's set up and right now it's upside down.
We got to fix it.
Absolutely, and hopefully we can elect some Republicans that actually have a pair, because unfortunately we saw during President Trump's first administration, when we had control of the House, the Senate, and the White House, he was kind of handicapped in a sense, not by his own doing, but by feckless Republicans that just didn't, like you said, want to actually use the levers of powers accordingly.
And we see now that now even Republicans are Coming to their senses only after, right, only after Donald Trump was found guilty because it kind of jolted them like an electrocution, right?
It kind of jolted these people into the sick reality of what our country has become, like, oh, holy shit, you know, Donald Trump might actually be in jail at the time of the RNC convention.
And so now you have Republicans, you know, saying, oh, well, I'm going to withhold my support for nominations.
And my question is, why wasn't this all done on day one of the illegitimate Biden administration?
Why weren't the House Republicans utilizing the power of the purse to shut the government down and defund the FBI or actually force the firing of these political appointees?
If I were in Congress, and we all know I ran for Congress twice, what I would do is I would be advocating for a government shutdown if Republicans had control of the House.
And I would say, OK, if you want your government to be reopened, then you're going to fire these political appointees at the DOJ who really cannot be removed from office unless they are fired because they're not elected officials.
Get rid of the head of the FBI.
Get rid of the head of the DOJ.
And then we will fund the DOJ.
And then we will fund the FBI.
But you're not getting an ounce or a dollar of funding until you fire these bureaucrats who have abused their power.
But the Republicans, of course, say, oh, well, we can't shut down the government.
Why not?
They shut down the government in 2019.
Remember when the Democrats shut it down because, oh, they don't want to give Donald Trump $5.7 billion for a border wall, but hey, we're going to send $400 billion to Ukraine so Zelensky can, you know, shove it up his nose or I don't know, whatever, whatever he does.
I'm confident.
Yeah, well, you know, when you send $400 billion and you don't have anybody accounting for it, You know, you can be certain that a certain percentage of it's ending up in Swiss bank accounts, but I don't know.
I'm just saying the guy seems to have the snivels a lot.
So I don't know.
Maybe, maybe he shares hobbies with Hunter Biden.
Who knows?
Maybe, maybe there, maybe that's why Joe spent so much time in Ukraine.
What I know is this, what I know about that is there aren't 218 Republicans who feel the way you do.
Okay.
And unfortunately, The rule in the House of Representatives is 218 rules.
If you've got 218, you can do anything.
If you don't have it, you can't do anything.
And so, yes, we need people who have a bigger, stronger backbone.
But what I observed, I actually was sitting with President Trump with a lot of the DHS officials in the Roosevelt Room when we're talking about strategy in terms of the shutdown in 2019.
And it's a and one of the things that I think is absolutely true is we have to make it we have a problem in D.C.
and the problem is every one of us live in D.C.
and I live in the D.C.
area.
When I when we had that shutdown this first the first Sunday after that shutdown my pastor in my church.
Gets up and says, we're opening the food bank to all the poor federal employees who are now out of work and aren't going to have any money.
And so we're opening it because the mean government is shut down.
Now, my pastor wasn't a liberal.
My pastor actually supported Trump.
He just was naive in that regard.
And so when you're sitting there and you are in the swamp, You're sitting, the biggest thing you find is that the people, the bureaucrats, who are your neighbors, are sitting there, you know, they sit there and they think, oh, I'm not going to get paid and all this stuff.
When in reality, what they know is they are going to get paid.
And this is essentially a vacation for them.
And they know that.
But they play it, play it up.
And as a result, we lose inside this beltway.
Unless people outside the beltway are demanding that their legislators stand up And fight for fiscal sanity and for policies that matter and for freedom in this country.
And that's where we have to be.
And by the way, you asked the question I told you to drain the swamp.
The other thing I'm working on is is trying to stop censorship, trying to stop and the censorship regime that exists.
And we've got another time to talk about this more.
But, you know, I know you've been very concerned about Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, which was a which is a Piece of it's part of the law that deals with the regulation or social or rumble.
Um, and it's basically says you can have what people can post what they want onto their, onto the platform.
Um, and you can't be sued if you're the platform by outside interests that don't like what's posted there, but it also allows for there to be a second option there.
And that is that they can self edit.
on those platforms and they can ban people off their platforms.
And the push me pull you on this is, what can we do to make certain that Laura Loomer doesn't get banned off because of having the opinions that actually turn out to be true and right, but are offensive to those who want to hide the truth?
How do we make sure she's able to exist in that world?
And the reality is, With the First Amendment, we may not be able to have access to all platforms.
2018, we were fighting this battle, trying to figure out what to do about it.
Getting rid of Section 230, or at least trying to figure out something around Section 230 made sense.
Six years later, we have Rumble.
We have alternative platforms.
This program's on Rumble.
If you had Section 230 going away, sunsetting, what would happen is, Every one of the Soros lawyers out there would be suing Rumble, and they'd sue him out of existence.
And so we have to figure out how to not throw the baby out with the bathwater on this.
And right now, Congress is looking on a bipartisan basis and ending Section 230 effective the end of next year.
And that would be a disaster for conservative media.
And so we're trying to figure out a way around it.
And that's one of the things I've been talking to legislators about as well.
And what was the reception today up on Capitol Hill when you were talking to them about lawsuits against the Attorneys General?
So if you can share with us, perhaps you have some stories or some feedback about your discussions today up on Capitol Hill.
Because it was an exciting day on Capitol Hill.
I will tell you, today I spent most of my time talking about the Drain the Swamp Initiative.
And because I'll just be honest, the committee sitting on the House Have to take start acting on some of the things on the drain the swamp initiative as it relates to regulations and trying to get rid of some of the really bad regulations.
They need to be able to they need to act now to take action so we can do stuff in January and February.
And so I was trying to get some of the leadership.
Um, in the house to actually pull, kind of pick up the ball and run with it.
Uh, because if we don't do that now, if we wait, we're going to lose a whole year in terms of a lot of the really important.
Were you able to, uh, were you able to get their attention today while Donald Trump was up on Capitol Hill?
I was actually, I was able to talk to them and they, you know, they were aware of a lot of the drain the swamp stuff, some of the stuff they hadn't heard for in terms of different ways to approach.
And quite honestly, you know, a lot of people haven't ever been in an administration.
I was fortunate enough to be in the George W. Bush administration labor department.
I was part of the Trump transition team for labor in 2016.
And so I spent a lot of time thinking about how to solve the problems I saw when I was in the Bush administration.
And truthfully, there's some things that can be done, but they have to be willing to do them.
They have to prep for them now.
Do you want to be in the next administration?
Do I want to be in the next administration?
The truth is, I don't know.
What depends on is a very simple thing.
I did not go into the first Trump administration, even though I was one of the first conservative Trump supporters.
We actually helped launch his campaign over the trade issue.
But the fact is, if I make a determination that having my organization fight from the outside, Better helps the country and helps Donald Trump be successful.
I will keep fighting on the outside.
If I make the determination that my expertise and knowledge is better used on the inside to try to get things done there, I will, I will do that.
Right now, we have to fight like hell to win this country back.
And I'm focused on doing everything I can in that regard.
And there's some big items on the table that we're fighting on and quite honestly, Most people don't either have the knowledge, the time, or the courage to stand up and say no.
The First Amendment means Congress shall make no laws, and point that out to people and fight for the First Amendment in a way that used to be kind of just accepted as being the way to do it.
People don't stand up and say no, we're not going to allow these Hamas creeps to go around and destroy our country and not face any kind of pushback.
We have things happening in this country that need real attention now, And I'm blessed to be in the position I am to be able to try to drive in some small way, knowledge and encourage and help people be courageous in dealing with problems that quite honestly, I don't think they're actually prepared to deal with.
Yeah, it seems like there's a lack of courage.
And I think that, you know, your answer is a very selfless answer.
And that's how most people should be thinking about whether or not their actions help President Trump on the outside or on the inside.
And a lot of people say, oh, why didn't you run for Congress again?
You should have run for Congress again.
And yeah, President Trump told me he would have endorsed me if I ran again.
And, you know, I said, To myself, am I better helping President Trump as, you know, a potential member of Congress or helping on the outside doing what I do best, which is, you know, exposing people and holding people accountable.
So I appreciate you for your honest answer because, you know, so many people are so quick to just say, oh, yeah, I want a job.
You know, I want a job in the admin because they want to have a title.
But you are clearly concerned about putting President Trump first.
If only all of our representatives in Congress and all of the bureaucrats in the Republican Party thought with that same mindset, we'd probably be in a better position today.
I agree.
And Laura, I want people out there to understand.
I'm not by myself on this.
There's a whole lot of people in small groups that people haven't heard of.
We're fighting every day to try to keep freedom in this country.
And, you know, they don't get a lot of attention sometimes, but the fact is the hard fight for freedom occurs every day on the edges and trying to get congressmen and congresswomen to not do stupid stuff under the guise of bipartisanship.
We have, we have a country that's worth defending and the DNA, very DNA of our country is under attack.
The soul of America is at stake, whether or not the idea that we are a country where the people are endowed by our creator with inalienable rights, not the government giving rights, our creator giving rights.
And we have that, that is at stake.
When a Supreme Court justice is under attack, he wants a moral, he wants a government, wouldn't it be nice if we had a godly government?
And he's under attack.
That used to be kind of a 90-10 issue.
And the left, the same Democrats who booed God at their convention, are now trying to drive any kind of pretense of being godly, moral, whatever you want to call it, understanding that there's absolute truth.
They're trying to drive that out of this public.
The public cannot allow it to occur.
Our country can't survive if that occurs.
And thank goodness for people like you stand up and do the hard work who go and expose things like illegal immigration, not sitting at the border, but going all the way down into Panama.
and exposing what's going on.
Those kind of things matter because people need to see what's really going on.
And the NGOs and non-government organizations that get government money who are funding that stuff, they need to know it.
And thank goodness that you've made it your mission to expose that kind of corruption, whether it's in the courtroom of Judge Merchant or if it's in Panama.
The job you do and the work you do is just priceless.
And thank you very much for what you do.
Yeah, well, thanks.
It's my pleasure to do this type of work, and you're right.
We have a documentary coming out right now as well.
You know, all these reporters and members of Congress, they just want to go down to the Mexican border, but they're really missing the big story of where all of this illegal immigration is really coming from, and it's the Darien Gap, especially a lot of these Chinese invaders that we're now seeing.
So I've talked about the documentary I have coming out.
It's called The Great Replacement, and, you know, Some people will say, oh, it's such a controversial title.
Why did you call it that?
Because I went down to Panama and I realized that it's not a conspiracy theory.
It's a reality.
We are being replaced.
And when you do the math and when you look at what's happening on the ground in a place like the Darien Gap, you realize that all of these efforts to suppress terms like the Great Replacement is an effort to get people to stop paying attention to the invasion of their country.
People can stay tuned.
My documentary is coming out right before the election.
I decided, Rick, that I wanted to turn all this footage that I got down in Panama into a documentary, and I want to release it at either the end of September or beginning of October, because I truly believe that it's going to be the most hard-hitting documentary of the 2024 political season, and that it will be a Uh, like the film version of An October Surprise.
I really do believe that my film is going to be seen by millions of people.
You're open to a timing suggestion.
Ballots are being cast in some places in third, fourth week of September.
So I, I think that everybody needs to see what you've come up with, what you're putting together before they vote.
And so take a very close look at when ballots start getting sent out.
And try to make certain that it's available to people before that.
So maybe I'll take your, yeah, I should take your advice on that.
Maybe, what do you think?
Maybe the end of August?
You think maybe the end of August?
Yeah, if it's ready, I might do it right after Labor Day.
You know, you're going to have the convention, the Democrat convention in August.
August is a dead time when most people aren't paying any attention to politics.
They're trying to take a break.
But right after Labor Day would be the perfect time to release it.
Give it about three weeks to breathe before the first ballot goes out.
And get people talking about it and make it and really drive the immigration crisis in this country that Donald Trump fixed and Joe Biden's recreated.
The 10 million people have come across the border illegally.
The fact that we are dealing with mostly military-age men coming across this country, and they're being dispersed into our cities in such a way that the real battle for America, if we do have a fight with the Chinese, the battle for America will be on the streets of Chicago and streets of Denver and the the battle for America will be on the streets of Chicago and streets of Denver That's where the fight's going to be, and it's not going to be fighting between Americans.
It's going to be four nationals who've been embedded there, working with the Sinaloa cartels, fully armed to the teeth, fighting with our police forces that those very cities have undermined to make it so they don't have the firepower or the manpower to fight back.
That's a battle for America if we actually have that kind of surgery happen.
Absolutely, and also fentanyl.
Well, Rick, I can't thank you enough for coming on Luma Unleashed tonight to talk about the different measures that you're taking with Americans for Limited Government to help take our country back from these radical communists and to help President Trump and to help restore freedom and sanity back to our country.
What's the best place for people to follow you and to support your work and also get updates on everything that you're doing?
Yeah, I would encourage people to go to that GetLiberty.org site.
Check out the three Take Actions that we have on there.
If any of them interest you, take action, you know, do something.
We have to do stuff here.
We don't, you know, a lot of people talk about stuff.
We try to actually get people, help people do stuff.
So go on.
And if you want to receive our materials, just respond to one of these Take Actions and opt in.
You see there's a little button that says, I'd like to receive updates from this organization.
but you can check it if you don't want it.
But if you do, go on, take action, and you'll automatically be added to our list, and you'll be getting things once a day, different articles we're writing, different things that we're working on.
So you'll be informed really from a perspective.
If you're getting your information from here, from here, you're gonna love what we do. - Wonderful.
Well, Rick, where do people follow you on social media?
Yeah, well, if you go on to Truth Social, it's LimitGov, just at LimitGov.
If you go on, we're on Rumble.
We used to do a lot of videos.
So we're LimitGov, Limit G-O-V-T on Rumble, and we're still on X, once again, Limit G-O-V-T.
So follow us on any of those platforms and you'll be getting information from us.
And truthfully, the Truth Social platform, I strongly encourage people to use Rumble, use Truth Social, use X, because, you know, none of us have any guarantees that we're going to be on Facebook next week.
What we do know is that we have to support those platforms that support freedom and make certain we're putting traffic on those platforms Because that's how those platforms get money and advertisers and are able to then grow and thrive.
So those of us who think this is important need to support the platforms that are supporting freedom and make that a priority.
Absolutely.
Well, Rick, thank you so much for coming on my show tonight.
It was a pleasure having you, and I hope that everybody goes to your website and signs those take action forms, because we definitely want to see some lawsuits against the New York State Supreme Court, and we want to see some subpoena action against Judge Mershawn and his daughter.
Thank you very much, Laura.
I appreciate it, and just keep up the great work.
Thank you.
You are a national treasure.
I appreciate that.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Have a great evening.
You too.
Thank you.
So Rick Manning everybody doing great work and I encourage all of you to go to his website.
Let's get the website up on the screen one more time for people to see it so that we can get these action forms here.
So go ahead and sign these forms.
and Bye.
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But with that, my next guest is Chase Geiser, who, of course, is a host over at InfoWars.
And he's the host of the Sunday Night Live show over at InfoWars.
So joining me now is Chase.
Chase, thanks so much for coming on Loomer Unleashed tonight.
It's an honor and a pleasure to be with you.
Thank you for having me.
Of course.
You know, I watch Info Wars a lot, and I've seen your show, and I've also seen you.
You're very vocal.
You have a book coming out soon.
We're going to talk about that tonight.
But also, really at the top of everybody's mind right now is what's going to be happening tomorrow.
We saw Alex Jones kind of had a bit of a meltdown on his show about a week and a half ago and he was crying and he he said that he's going bankrupt and he made a plea with people to donate to InfoWars saying that You know, he's going to have to liquidate his assets in order to pay off this over $1 billion, right?
$1.5 billion judgment that he owes to the relatives of 20 students and six staff members killed in the Sandy Hook shooting in Newtown, Connecticut.
So it's my understanding that there's a hearing that's going to be taking place tomorrow.
So what can you tell us about this hearing?
Sure, so as far as I understand it, I'm by no means an expert in the nuances of bankruptcy law, but having worked at Infowars for about a year, you do learn a little bit unintentionally whether you want to or not about bankruptcy law.
I believe that there is a hearing at 10 o'clock in Houston, 10 Central.
And there's another one, 11.
The first one is about Alex's personal bankruptcy.
And the second one is about Free Speech Systems, which is the parent company of InfoWars.
And Alex has motioned to convert his Chapter 11 bankruptcy into a Chapter 7 bankruptcy, which means it looks like if that goes through, he's going to lose his ownership stake in InfoWars.
And it seems like the judge may dismiss the bankruptcy case for free speech systems tomorrow because the plaintiffs have refused to agree to a settlement plan with InfoWars.
And so what's going to happen then is if this case is dismissed, InfoWars will lose its bankruptcy protections and the plaintiffs will be able to come in and liquidate everything, which is what we anticipate they're going to motion to do next week.
So very likely that next week InfoWars is shut down.
It's possible that we could buy some time if they agree to some sort of settlement over the course of the next two months to keep the crew on and keep the show on the air while we sell the rest of the inventory for the products that we have at Infowars store.
But it's unlikely, based on what I've experienced and seen from the opposition in this case, that they'll do anything gracious or friendly or reciprocate any goodwill or anything like that.
So it seems like the final days for Infowars.
Now, of course, that's not the final end of the story for Alex or the crew.
I'm sure there'll be something else that comes down the pipeline.
But we did have a new development in the case today where they have actually motioned the court for ownership of Alex's personal Twitter account as well.
So they now not only want at InfoWars, but they want real Alex Jones on Twitter so they can shut down his personal Twitter account.
And that'll be something that will be brought up in the hearings tomorrow as well.
Yeah, we have an article.
Let's get that full screen here too.
It's an article that just came out today on Reuters.
Sandy Hook families want to seize Alex Jones' social media accounts.
Families of the Sandy Hook Massacre victims want to seize Alex Jones' social media accounts in his bankruptcy, saying that the conspiracy... They call him a conspiracy theorist.
Their words, not mine.
Frequent posts to fans are a key part of the Infowars business being liquidated to pay Jones's debt.
Jones, who filed bankruptcy protection 17 months ago, has given up on trying to reach a settlement that would reduce the $1.5 billion that he owes to the relatives of the 20 students and 6 staff members killed in the 2012 mass shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.
The article does say that they want to actually take control of Alex Jones's ex-account to prevent him from using it to promote new business ventures.
So they just, you know, you did say that other things will come down the pipeline for Alex, but if they are successful then in actually confiscating his social media accounts, he's not going to have a means to promote further ventures, correct?
It'll certainly make things more difficult.
But there's a couple of different avenues that this could play out.
First of all, I don't think the judge is going to go for it.
Believe it or not, Judge Lopez has been fairly reasonable throughout this process.
It's been the plaintiff's attorneys that have been super difficult.
The fact that Jones was found guilty by default of defamation to begin with has been part of what's difficult.
The jury determining that he owed $1.5 billion, that was unreasonable.
But the judge, specifically in this case, seems to be very reasonable.
I've listened to several of the last hearings.
And I don't think he's on our side necessarily, but he seems genuinely neutral to the extent that that's possible.
So I doubt that they're going to be able to get this, that they're going to be able to pull this off in the motion tomorrow.
I think that they're just attacking from all fronts whenever possible.
But if they do successfully shut it down, there's a couple avenues.
The first thing to consider is I know Musk has made commitments to protect the platform when users are attacked directly.
So I think that this would probably fall into that category that might get Musk involved.
I know it's a little bit of a Hail Mary and a stretch, but It's certainly possible that he would get involved.
He hasn't said anything like that.
I'm hopeful.
And the second thing is, even if they do take Alex's personal account, Alex will be able to start up another account.
And we've seen countless examples of this where, you know, maybe he won't have 2.3 million followers right off of the bat, but it's just a matter of time before he gets his audience back if he starts another account.
Yeah, it is really crazy.
I think this is, it made history, right?
Wasn't this one of the largest judgments for a private citizen in United States history?
Of course.
I think Alex Jones has defamed worse than anyone has ever defamed before in terms of monetary value.
And you have to keep in mind that the state of Adam Lanza, who was the actual shooter, was only sued for $1.5 million.
So somehow, if you look at the math, Alex is a thousand times more culpable for what happened to the person who actually killed those kids.
Yeah, well, it seems to me like this is more about getting money than anything else, because you're right.
I mean, Alex wasn't the one that pulled the trigger.
He certainly had opinions about the Sandy Hook shooting, and, you know, some people say that the coverage was sensational, and even if it was, right?
You're right.
He was not the person that actually pulled the trigger and killed all of those innocent children.
And so, it is interesting to compare the discrepancy in the judgments and, you know, the monetary amount that Adam Lanza was, well, the estate of Adam Lanza was sued for compared to, as you just pointed out, Alex Jones, who was simply talking about the Sandy Hook shooting.
Yeah, it's a travesty.
Yeah, I understand that, you know, you also have a new book that just came out and I want to give you an opportunity to talk about your book as well.
Sure.
So my book is called American Populism.
It's got a foreword by Alex Jones.
And it's meant to be like inspirational 200 page rant.
Patriots fired up.
Uh, I define populism as the realization that it's not about Republicans versus Democrats or right versus left.
It's about the people versus the political class.
And so this book is meant to inspire patriotic populists on that front and also encourage everybody to vote for Trump because I do believe that Trump is the populist candidate and perhaps the only hope for our country.
Well, I'm very happy to see that you are supporting Trump and that you believe that Trump is the best answer for our country because, you know, I think that the message that you're promoting is good.
But I will say, I do have to say this because I don't want to be called a hypocrite by my own audience.
You know, I have done an investigation into RFK Jr.
and I have done an investigation into the people who have been propping him up.
And one of the people that promotes him and props him up is a guy by the name of Tony Lyons, who happens to be the owner of Sky Horse Publishing.
And so I've already received messages about this tonight, and while I like you as a person and, you know, I've watched InfoWars myself, I do have to say your book is published by Sky Horse because I have been very critical of Tony and the fact that You know, he is probably one of the biggest contributors to RFK's Super PAC American Values.
And so, I'm happy to see that you yourself are a Trump supporter because, you know, I think that it's kind of deceptive the way that Tony's publishing scheme works.
I'm sure you can't talk about this because you probably signed some type of agreement when you got your publishing deal.
So my publishing contract has an – I just don't want anybody thinking that I'm being a hypocrite because I wanted to give you an opportunity to come on.
But then it occurred to me that your publisher was Skyhorse.
Yeah, so a couple things there.
I do have a non-disparagement agreement in my contract, so I'm not going to say anything negative about Tony – And I'm not really going to defend him either.
I'm vehemently opposed to RFK.
I think RFK is a CIA plant.
It sickens me that RFK Jr.
has a former CIA op running his campaign as a campaign manager, the same woman who married into his family after just like a year of being involved in a relationship.
I think it's sick that you would have members of your family assassinated by the CIA and then you would hire the CIA to run your campaign.
I think his entire objective of his campaign, RFK's, is to capture the vote of former Trump voters who are alienated from Trump because they disagree with the vaccine position that Trump still has.
And I think this is a total PSYOP setup screw-up that's going to only help the Democratic candidate.
And I don't support RFK in any way and it bothers me that Tony Lyons supports RFK.
Just as much as it bothers me that another American would entertain the idea of supporting this candidate, but I am pleased that he has published this book because this book is explicitly a pro-Trump book.
The entire epilogue of the book is dedicated to why you should vote for Trump and why he's a populist president.
And the other reason we chose the publisher is because Skyhorse published Alex Jones' books, The Great Awakening and The Great Reset, and before we knew that we were going to go bankrupt, the thinking was, if I publish this through Skyhorse, we have a special deal with Skyhorse and InfoWars, where InfoWars would have been able to buy thousands of copies of the book at an extreme discount, then Alex and I would have been able to sign them and sell them for a markup, and it would have been great for InfoWars, monetarily speaking.
Of course, we're not going to be able to buy this book here at InfoWars because we're about ready to No, and I wanted to have you come on because I do think that, you know, I've seen your show and I've seen that you're pro-Trump, but I just had to out of, you know, the sake of transparency.
No, I understand.
Because I, you know, was railing on Tony Lyons not too long ago, and I take issue with his With his publishing strategy and the way that he pries on conservative clients that are victims of censorship, and the fact that he has then basically turned his relationships with, you know, MAGA personalities or Trump supporters into a way to then somehow fund RFK.
And so I just had to, for the sake of, you know, my own journalistic integrity, Even though, you know, I think that the message of your book is something that all people should familiarize themselves with, the rise of American populism, because it truly is really relevant, not just here in our own political landscape here in America, Chase, as you would probably agree, but also, too, I want to get your take on the recent rise of populism in Europe.
We just saw the European Union elections take place, and it just seemed like a, you know, crushing defeat for So many of these Socialist Democrat candidates who were on the ballot, and we saw the re-election of Georgia Maloney, who's now hosting the G7 Summit in Italy today, where Joe Biden is speaking.
We saw other candidates as well, right-wingers and right-wing parties, really just sweep these elections, especially Marine Le Pen.
I mean, you had to have Emmanuel Macron basically dissolve the French government and call for snap elections due to Marine Le Pen's overwhelming victory.
So what do you think about this, the way that this rise of American populism, much like the aftermath of the Trump era in post-2016, we saw this kind of reawakening, this nationalist reawakening around the world.
Do you think that Donald Trump has anything to do with kind of this mass awakening and the rise of populist and nationalist victories across the world right now?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think Donald Trump has something to do with it, but I think it's actually more the other way around.
I think the rise in populist sentiments is the reason that Donald Trump has been so successful, because people are resonating with that message.
I do think he convinced a lot of people of populism, but it was the underlying bedrock of populist sentiment that propped What I would say is that the number one catalyst, and this is not something that we've just seen in the last eight years, but it's something that we've seen in the last 100 years, the number one catalyst for populist ideals or nationalist ideals is a political establishment that fails its people for an extended period of time.
And the more a people suffer because of the failures and corruption of their political class, the more populist they become.
Now, we can go back to Germany in the 1920s and the Weimar Republic.
We had hyperinflation, and that catalyzed a major nationalist movement.
Now, I'm no Nazi.
I don't sympathize with Nazis.
I hate the fact that we gave $63 billion to the Nazis in Ukraine on Hitler's birthday, April 20th this year.
I think it's absolutely fucking disgusting, and that's why I don't pay income tax unless I absolutely have to when it's withdrawn from my money.
Because following orders is not a good enough excuse for Nuremberg 1, it's not going to be a good enough excuse for Nuremberg 2, right?
Right.
So I'm opposed to Nazism, but there is a rational explanation for why the Nazis resonate, like, why it happened.
It wasn't just like an ass-kicking came falling out of the sky, and everyone's like, oh, this Hitler guy, like, he resonated with the people because they'd been so screwed over after the Treaty of Versailles.
Unfortunately, he blamed erroneously an entire ethnicity, but the German people were suffering so much that it was all about this populism, this nationalism, and they took it the fascist route.
It could have gone the Marxist route.
I'm hoping that here in the United States in the 2020s, when we experience similar hyperinflation and the potential collapse of the dollar, Because of the way that fractional reserve banking is set up, I hope that we don't have to just choose between fascism and Marxism at the end of this road as a people.
I hope that there's a third option, a populist option, which is why I support Trump so much, because things are gonna get worse before they get better in this country.
And the worse things get, the more inclined a people is on an entire scale of the civilization to do very unjust things, radical things in response.
And I hope that we just have this rational populist response to this political crisis that we're in.
And we support Trump and mega politicians and populist ideas instead of going the fascist or Marxist route, which is going to be before us.
And so your book then, it sounds like you provide this historical context, right, for people who want to learn about different populist movements throughout history.
You don't just talk about populism as a whole, but is it safe to say that your book really is like a historical blueprint for how we got to this point, or is it more focused on the past or the future, or the present political situation, or kind of a mixture of all three?
There is some historical context in the book, but the book is mainly like a 200 page populist rant.
So you should walk away inspired to be a populist, to vote populist, to support Trump.
to be vocal about, to actually fight back instead of biting your lip at social events when people say they're going to vote for Biden or they think Trump's a criminal.
If you read this book, you won't do that.
You will snap back.
You will loomer unleash on these fucking people.
So it's meant to inspire people to actually be a little bit more combative.
And it's meant to elate the conflict.
We love that.
We love combative.
We love that.
We love combative.
We love combativeness.
So, you know, there's a lot of qualities that President Trump has and a lot of different characteristics, I guess, that are appealing to populists.
As a populist yourself and as the author of this book, what do you think is President Trump's most appealing quality to populists?
Or why do you, what is the populist case for voting for President Trump?
That is such an easy question to answer.
I'm glad you asked it.
It's so easy to vote for Trump.
The reason I think he's a populist here and it's a no-brainer is because all of the world's super villains hate him.
And the reason I'm voting for him is because all the right people hate him.
Oh, if Klaus Schwab hates him, if Trudeau hates him, if Nancy Pelosi hates him, if the Clintons hate him, if the Fauci's hate him.
Everybody that I hate from the bottom of my soul because of their betrayal of this country, their incessant lies, their literal treason.
Hates Donald Trump more than they hate anybody else, so it's a no-brainer to vote for him.
I mean, and there's a lot of positive reasons to vote for him, so I'm not just trying to make the case for him on a negative, but that is by far the reason that it's a no-brainer.
Anytime he may say something that kind of rubs me wrong or I might disagree with or whatever, it's like, oh, but yeah, but everybody that hates the world and hates humanity hates him.
So it's very easy for me to support him just on that notion.
But things like even today, saying that he wants to eradicate an income tax and replace it with tariffs, I mean, that's just great.
I can't think of a day that goes by where he doesn't say something that resonates with me as a populist.
And so his policies and his approach and everything like that, the fact that he's a political outsider and that he's been so under attack, and he's one of the few presidents that's ever left the office with a low net worth and going, despite the fact that the billionaire class made so much money off the printing of money during the pandemic.
I mean, there are so many reasons to vote for him, but the number one reason for me supporting him is because all the most evil people in the world That I've studied and looked at hate him so much.
It's a very good song.
Were you always a Trump supporter since 2016 or did you have a reawakening?
Did you have a reawakening?
Oh, always.
Okay, that's good.
That's good.
Always.
Yeah, yeah.
I voted for Trump in 2016 and in the primary in 2016.
I think we're finding now a lot of people are kind of waking up, especially post COVID.
You know, when a lot of people were locked down and they had time to, you know, sit at home and watch videos, especially watching InfoWars.
You know, a lot of people I know got red-pilled watching InfoWars during the pandemic.
But, you know, we have a lot of people now that I think We're total Trump haters.
I don't know if you'd agree with this, but we've even seen it with some of the members of Congress and members of the Senate who were originally anti-Trump and now, you know, they're coming out and they're fervently supporting President Trump.
Two examples I can think of are Senator J.D.
Vance and Nancy Mace.
You know, these are two individuals who entered their political careers being anti-Trump At one point even, you know, at least in Nancy's case, supporting the impeachment of President Trump.
And now you see these people really have had a total 180, and they're some of President Trump's biggest champions in Congress and the Senate.
What do you think the reasoning is for that?
I question any politician has a change of heart on any policy or any other candidate.
I question the authenticity of that.
And to me, it's a red flag.
I'm not trying to say this about Nancy or JD specifically.
Maybe I'm wrong about this.
But to me, this is an example of politicians determining or understanding a shift in the wind and then just riding the wave.
So I'm very skeptical as to members of the political class, because you have to keep in mind, the political class doesn't really have the incentive to support a genuine outsider like Trump, just at scale.
And we can take one example, being the fact that it's legal for our political class, our politicians, whether in the House or in the Senate, to engage in insider trading.
I mean, they're legally protected for insider trading.
So they have an incentive as leaders to vote for the raising of the debt ceiling so they can spend more tax dollars on companies that they're personally invested in.
And so they get the kickback when their portfolio expands in value.
When you have somebody like a Trump come in that potentially could disrupt that on a scale because this is not somebody who's personally invested in that way or engaged insider trading in that way.
I mean, if he was, he would have made a lot of money as president of the United States, and he didn't because he's not a sellout.
I'm often very skeptical when these people do these things.
I'm often thinking that maybe they're trying to cater to Trump's vulnerability to flattery and they want cabinet positions so they can compromise his term if he wins.
I'm not just saying that.
I'm not saying this with certainty about these specific people, so I'm not trying to disparage anyone.
But I would be very wary of anyone who claims to have a changed heart.
I mean, keep in mind how many times the Clintons had changes of heart over, like, gay marriage, for example.
There's famous clips of Hillary Clinton saying that gay people shouldn't be allowed to get married when she was a senator.
And then she reverses on that and they just, they just go with the wind because they don't have any principles.
I'd be very skeptical because Trump has always been the same.
So if the positions of politicians change on Trump, it seems to me that it's likely disingenuous.
What do you think?
I think for the most part that statement is true, but I do think that, uh, you know, I've had JD Vance on the show and I've had Nancy Mace on the show and I think that they like actually got to know him on a personal level and I think in their case, being in the swamp and seeing firsthand the weaponization of government and also, you know, just the vitriol coming from the Democrats and how everything that comes out of the Democrat Party is designed to get Trump.
I think that you have some of these representatives who go to Washington, D.C., thinking that, you know, oh, you know, they're going to be principled or, you know, maybe they have their preconceived notions of President Trump.
And I'm generally in agreement with you that, you know, people don't really change their opinions on Trump unless it's for disingenuous reasons, because Trump has always been the same.
But I do think that there are some exceptions.
And again, you know, you have to be weary.
I've interviewed Nancy and I like to think that Nancy Mace is genuine in her support for President Trump.
I mean, this is a woman who actually had bigger balls than most men in Congress and voted to remove Kevin McCarthy.
And you have people that have claimed to support President Trump, you know, from the beginning that voted in support of Kevin McCarthy during the motion to vacate.
So I would say that Nancy's sincere.
And look, J.D.
Vance was one of the only members of the Senate who actually was outside of the Supreme Court.
It was Marcia Blackburn, Tommy Tuberville, and J.D.
Vance who showed up to the Supreme Court the day that the Supreme Court was hearing arguments about whether or not to remove Trump from the ballot in Colorado.
So, where were all these other Senators who, you know, supposedly claimed to support Trump?
So, I actually take those things into account and, you know, we'll see.
I like to believe Nancy Mace and J.D.
Vance are now, you know, true believers in Donald Trump.
Repent for the Kingdom of Trump is here!
I was about to say repentant sinners, you know.
I was about to use that term.
I do believe that.
But then, you know, Media Matters is going to cut this and say, oh, Laura Loomer and InfoWars hosts say that members of Congress who Hey, that's a badge of honor.
I think on my bio in my book sleeve it says, as mentioned in Media Monsters.
It's a cult, right?
It's a cult, it's a cult, it's a cult.
That's what they'll say, right?
No, but truly, I believe that, you know, it's akin to now being a political repentant sinner.
And so I'm grateful for those people who, you know, were anti-Trump who are now speaking up because Even the people that claim to be pro-Trump, you know, from the beginning, they're not using their voices as loud as they should be.
So that leads me to my next question.
You know, you're obviously very involved in politics.
You're a host on InfoWars.
You guys have all types of hosts all the time.
You guys have one of the most popular political podcasts in the world.
What do you think about the veepstakes?
Who out of the people that President Trump has proposed on his, you know, possible VP list, That was pushed forward with a few names the other day.
Can you remind me of the names on the list?
I remember looking at it and not being told.
There's a few.
Let's get the list pulled up because I know that, let's see, I know Senator Tim Scott is on the list.
He's got to pick somebody that's as much an enemy of the state.
He's got to pick somebody as much an enemy of the state as him because he'll get whacked if he doesn't.
Yeah, Senator Tim Scott.
I know you had Senator Tim Scott.
You had Marco Rubio, Elise Stefanik, J.D.
Vance, Byron Donalds, Doug Burgum.
Let's see, Doug Burgum.
I'm trying to think of who else.
Who else was on the list?
Let's pull up the list.
Do we have the full list?
I mean, they have Doug Burgum, Marco Rubio.
Let's see.
Not Rubio.
You have a full list.
Not exactly a poker face.
Remember that famous line?
Trump, he's drinking water.
I think, I personally think, out of the list that was put forth by President Trump, and we have that now, let's get it full screen.
J.D.
Vance.
He's got nice eyelashes.
I think it's going to be between J.D.
Vance or Doug Burgum.
That's my prediction.
I think that of the people on the list, and let's scroll down, here we go, the contenders, J.D.
Vance, Senator J.D.
Vance from Ohio, North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum, Senator Marco Rubio from Florida, Senator Tim Scott from South Carolina, Ben Carson, that was the name, okay, Ben Carson, It's got to be J.D.
head secretary representative Elise Stefanik from New York representative Byron Donald's from Florida and Senator Tom Cotton from Arkansas so I can automatically say it's got to be JD Vance because Ohio's a swing state yeah JD Vance or Doug Burgum although I think maybe Doug Burgum would be better suited potentially as energy secretary given his background so maybe Doug Burgum for energy secretary and maybe JD Vance Vance for, I don't know, VP.
I just think that, I know for a fact that the options are between those people on the list.
Right, so those are the people.
I saw Byron Donalds today was on Fox News and they asked him whether or not he would want to be VP and he said, yeah, of course I would like to be and he wouldn't confirm whether or not he's filled out paperwork.
I don't think that Marco Rubio should be VP.
I don't think that Senator Tim Scott should be VP.
I really like Dr. Ben Carson, but part of me thinks that he may be, I don't know, maybe a little too demure.
I really appreciate that he's been loyal.
He's probably been the most loyal to Trump out of anybody on that list.
So I really love Dr. Carson.
I certainly think that he should have a role in the administration.
But in terms of what I think the top two are going to come down to, just based off of what I'm hearing and what I'm seeing and the way the base is reacting, I really do believe it's going to be a toss-up between Governor Doug Burgum and Senator J.D. Vance.
Vance.
Well, I think that Ben Carson should have a role in this administration as the brain surgeon.
I mean, obviously, we have somebody that needs an operation.
Absolutely.
Maybe we should recruit him.
We should recruit him.
Maybe we should get one of those White House... What are those?
Whitehouse.gov petitions?
Send Dr. Ben Carson into the Biden administration to perform immediate brain surgery.
Yeah, that would be amazing.
That would be amazing.
My question is, for you, is do you actually think it's going to be Joe Biden as the candidate?
Because I'm having increased doubts as time goes on.
Do you think it's going to be Mike?
I don't.
Because she's got a new book out I saw at the airport the other day.
Who's it going to be?
I don't know who it's going to be, but I don't think it's going to be Joe Biden.
I mean, the guy is clearly sundowning and he can't function.
His video's today.
Do we have the video from the G7 Summit?
I think we have that video of him.
Let's play that video.
He had all these I don't know what it was he was they were watching some guy land I guess with a G7 summit flag and then Joe Biden starts and you know what I love what's so funny about these appearances whenever Joe Biden goes abroad and it's so funny all of these officials are like oh shit the president of the United States is having a moment let's just go with him and pretend like this is normal like he's in D-Day and he's turning around
When they're doing the anthem and, you know, Emmanuel Macron and his wife, like, look around like, you know, oh, what's going on here?
And then they turn their bodies so that Joe Biden isn't the only one turning around.
And you can obviously tell they're running cover.
We have this clip today from Italy where Joe Biden, of course, started walking away from all these other world leaders and in an effort to prevent him from being embarrassed on the world stage, they decided to follow him.
So take a look.
Unbelievable.
One, two, three, two, one.
Had you not seen this clip?
It's viral all over the place.
No, I saw it.
We covered it on The War Room this afternoon.
It's just, it's just shocking every time you see it.
I mean, the guy was wandering off like a madman.
And then Georgia Maloney, Georgia Maloney's like, come on!
I could just, I could just see her now in her little Italian.
I can't really do an Italian accent.
Maybe you I don't know.
Can you do an Italian accent?
Come over here!
I'm German.
I haven't hung out with the Italians since 1943.
Aye, aye, aye, mama mia!
Mama mia!
Mama mia, Joe!
We got the dupita!
Yeah, no, it's crazy.
And every time you see Joe Biden on video with anyone, whether it's little children or adults, they always seem like they're hiding a big secret or that they feel they're around somebody fragile.
And look at the way they're all looking, right?
And he's doing the shuffle and Maloney had to.
I mean, I just want to know what was going through her head at the moment.
And, you know, she's sitting there and having to turn around and act like this is normal.
And everybody in that video hates Donald Trump.
And then he had to put his sunglasses on.
He had to put his sunglasses on to cover his eyes.
I don't know, that's like his cue.
It's almost like they tell him, OK, now, any single time somebody, you know, shuffles you away, Joe, you got to put your glasses on.
And we have, you know, we have the videos that he put out, too.
He put out this video answering questions because they think it's fun to poke fun at the fact that, you know, Donald Trump is a convicted felon and, oh, Donald Trump Doesn't want to answer questions, even though Trump answers all the questions.
And the videos that the White House puts out on Twitter of Joe Biden, they're just crazy.
I mean, he literally looks dead.
And I don't know if they think that him having, like, a soft-spoken voice makes him look appealing, but look at him.
He almost looks like he belongs in a hospice.
Here's another clip from today as well, during his press conference, where he was mumbling about not pardoning his son.
But we talked about that.
Oh well, okay, my producer says there's so many clips because I said, I said, hey, uh, Cannon, find every single fucked up clip of Joe Biden slurring his words today.
And he said, Laura, I just don't have enough time because I'd be here all night.
So, uh, we did the best.
We did our best to, uh, we did our best to get all the clips.
So here's a clip of him struggling to speak on stage with Zelensky today.
Go ahead and play the clip.
It includes major commitments from Ukraine to impact and, excuse me, to implement democratic, economic and security reforms.
He looks like he's asleep.
I mean, look at the... Can we just get like a zoom in on his face right there?
Just pause it.
Just look at that face.
I mean, he looks sick.
He looks really sick.
He looks like... Is he staring into a teleprompter?
Is that what those little screens are?
I don't know.
I don't know if he's staring at it, but he can't speak.
He ended the press conference early today.
And then he sucked out his hand for like five minutes to shake Zelensky's hand before Zelensky was, you know, even across the stage to come shake his hand.
I think that this guy's gonna die before the election.
Or, I don't know, maybe he'll die first.
Who do you think's gonna die first?
Do you think Zelensky's gonna get whacked by his own military or do you think Joe Biden's gonna die first?
I think Biden's going to die first, or maybe they'll pull a Scalia and someone will put a pillow over his face.
I mean, I'm not advocating for that, obviously.
I'm certainly not advocating for that.
It's going to be like Romeo and Juliet.
I'm not advocating for that, but I do think that Joe Biden has become such a liability I wouldn't be surprised.
I mean, look, we've had our own government has assassinated presidents before.
So are we going to wake up and find out that Joe Biden died in his sleep from some kind of medical illness?
Is he going to slip and fall?
Who do you think is more likely to get whacked, Joe Biden or Donald Trump?
Is he is he going to slip and fall and hit his head while he's out?
And then, you know, they're going to say, oh, we had a brain, you know, a brain bleed and he's going to die.
Or are they going to take him out?
I don't know.
Are they going to whack him before the election because he's too much of a liability now?
Again, I'm not advocating for this, but I'm just talking about the realities of our own government.
Our own government has assassinated presidents before.
And I wouldn't be surprised.
I mean, look, we have Joe Biden.
He didn't even qualify to be on the ballot in the state of Ohio.
That's 17 electoral votes.
You know, I was talking about RFK.
The whole point behind his PAC and Tony Lyons' PAC, American Values, is to create a contingent election.
They want to take enough electoral votes away so that neither Trump or Biden get elected.
And RFK Jr. knows that not even he would be president.
They would have Congress select our next president, which is what his whole entire strategy is, which is why I'm not a fan of Tony Lyons, because I personally find his method of prying on Trump supporters who have been censored to try to give them book deals and then, you know, using his money to fund RFK is deceptive. you know, using his money to fund RFK is deceptive.
I think that it's a really trashy business model.
Again, those are my words, not yours.
I'm just being transparent about how I feel.
I appreciate that you're a Trump supporter, but that's why I think this election is so dangerous because RFK is not running a campaign to win.
He knows that he can't win.
His own PAC that is run by Tony Lyons has admitted that they don't want to win, that they want to cause a contingent election.
And so if the Democrats are going along with this and they know that Joe Biden Isn't gonna be the nominee.
What do they care if Congress ends up choosing somebody who's more radical than Trump and Biden?
Not saying that Trump's a radical, but we have to understand that the Uniparty doesn't want Trump and they don't want Biden.
They certainly don't want RFK, but RFK is just a means to an end for them to then install somebody.
Because the way that a contingent election works You don't have to be a candidate on the ballot.
They don't have to pick Trump.
They don't have to pick Biden.
They don't have to pick Chase Oliver.
They don't have to pick RFK.
They don't have to pick Jill Stein, you know, or any of these other candidates.
They can pick whoever they want.
We could literally get President Alex Soros.
We could get President Ilhan Omar, President AOC, if we have a contingent election.
And so that's why I think that the Democrats are Not putting up a new candidate right now because I think that we are running the risk of having a contingent election or maybe, you know, right before August when the convention takes place, Joe Biden is going to die or have some kind of medical emergency or they'll whack him.
Because the DNC rules, Chase, they actually outline a process.
I don't know if you're aware of this, but the DNC actually has rules that say that it doesn't matter what the outcome of a primary is, if the DNC leadership has enough votes, just the leadership, not even voting members, okay?
Just leadership of the DNC.
They can actually install their own candidate and announce their candidate of their choosing at the convention.
So they could convince everybody that Joe Biden's going to be the nominee going into their convention, and then at the end of August, when their convention is supposed to take place, they can actually install somebody completely new.
So let's do the math on that.
June, July, August.
Ballots go out in September in some states, and then this is a way for them to pick somebody else.
Completely shock the system.
And you're not going to have debates between this person and Donald Trump.
You're not going to have opposition research on this person.
It's peculiar.
It's peculiar that they scheduled their convention 75 days before the general election, which is totally unprecedented and it's caused problems for the Democratic campaign because most several states, at least one, have rules in place that you have to submit who the candidate is for the general election 90 days before the general election.
So by having the convention 75 days before, it's caused problems for them and they want to do it remotely.
So I agree with you, there's something very fishy going on with us.
With this and the fact that they're having these debates just at the end of June earlier than ever before is is also bizarre because it seems like they're setting the stage to make the case for Joe Biden to be ousted and replaced with an ambush candidate.
I agree with you on that.
Yeah, and it's and it's not even necessarily an ambush if this is their plan altogether for the DNC convention and it would certainly explain why they didn't want to certify Joe Biden to be on the ballot in the state of Ohio.
But lots of shenanigans at play here.
Any last words, Chase, about, you know, just the election, the upcoming presidential debate, the hearing tomorrow?
I mean, what's at stake for you?
What are you going to do?
Let's just say the Info Wars does go under and you find yourself not having a job next week.
What is next for you, hypothetically speaking?
Because I guess that would mean that you and the rest of the crew would be unemployed.
Yeah, so I will go wherever Alex goes as long as he'll have me.
Uh, and I'm not worried about myself.
I've already had people reach out for opportunities.
I know that I'll be fine.
I know that Alex will be fine.
This crew, I think is the most talented crew in the business.
They will be fine one way or the other.
It's just a shock.
So I'm not really concerned about that.
I would just, I would just encourage your listeners to follow me at realchasegeyser on X and follow Alex Jones at realalexjones on X. I don't think that they're going to succeed in taking over his social media account.
Uh, so that's the best place to.
Follow him.
Info comes after Info Wars if these enemies of our country are successful in liquidating and shutting it down as it seems more and more likely every day.
But tomorrow we got the big hearing at 10 in the morning Central Time and 11 in the morning Central Time.
We'll have some new news and developments on that front.
You'll be able to see that stuff at Real Chase Geyser and at Real Alex Jones and hopefully we can stay on the air at least through the election so we can get Trump in the in the Oval Office again.
Yeah, I hope so.
I mean, it would really suck to, you know, to see InfoWars go under because I do think that Alex does a lot of great work.
And, you know, part of the way I was able to really launch my career after working for Project Veritas is when I started as an independent journalist, and Alex Jones would oftentimes have me on as an InfoWars contributor.
So, you know, he certainly is a free speech icon, and it would be a shame if InfoWars were to shut down.
Along with your social media accounts, I know that, I mean, look, I may not like your publisher, of course, but I do like you and I do think that the topic of the book is interesting.
So once again, the title of your book and where people can purchase your book.
The Rise of American Populism.
You can find it on my Twitter account, linked at Amazon.
Please pre-order it because pre-orders count toward first day sales.
And we want it to race to the top because despite the fact That it's published by Tony Lyons.
I guarantee reading this book will get more votes for Trump than the money that Tony Lyons may spend on a pack for RFK Jr.
Well, I appreciate you being a good sport and, you know, entertaining my conversation about this.
You don't attack Laura Loomer head-on.
Look, you know, look.
You can't attack Laura Loomer head-on.
She's a leash.
I love InfoWars.
I love InfoWars and I love You know, a lot of people that I know, unfortunately, a lot of people in the conservative media world, unfortunately, have the same publisher.
But I just feel that it's important for people to know it's not a dig at you, it's not a dig at InfoWars, and I'm sure your book is very interesting.
I'll read it myself, actually.
Hopefully you'll sign a copy for me, because I do think it sounds very interesting.
Do you want me to get Tony to sign it?
Do you want me and Tony to sign it for you?
No, but I just personally think that people I just personally think that people deserve to know, you know, the truth about these things, right?
Because I think that... I can't talk shit about them, so I just have to nod.
I know.
I understand.
I just think that, you know, it's an interesting business relationship.
I will say, they fucking spelled four words wrong on the audible version of the book.
They spelled it F-O-R-W-A-R-D.
It's been a fucking nightmare to get them to correct it.
Well, hopefully they correct it.
Look, I just want to get Trump elected.
I just want all the MAGA money to go to Trump.
I don't want any money going to, you know, any shady figures.
But look, I think that the book, it sounds really interesting.
I'm going to read it.
I hope that you'll sign a copy for me.
Again, keep us posted on how this hearing turns out tomorrow.
You said that you're also going to be tweeting out a live link for people to watch it before we close out here.
What about the link that people can go to watch the hearing tomorrow?
Yeah, just follow Alex at RealAlexJones because I am going to be going to Houston with Alex tomorrow morning.
And we are going to be into this show.
Possibly the war room was as well.
Uh, I know Bannon wants to have Alex going to be in the hearing.
So I don't know if he's going to, if you follow me and Alex on, you will know where to get the latest as immediately as possible after this case develops.
And it's 10 a.m.
Central, and that's, of course, 11 a.m.
Eastern, when people can watch it.
So, again, Chase, we wish you all the best, and, you know, we wish everybody at the InfoWars crew our best as well.
We certainly don't want to, you know, see InfoWars shutter their doors because of this $1.5 billion judgment.
And so we'll be thinking of you, and again, thank you so much for coming on the show.
Thank you so much for having me.
It's an honor and pleasure to be with you.
Nice to finally interact with you.
Absolutely, and we'll have you on again sometime too, so thanks for coming on.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yep.
Yeah, so this is gonna be really interesting tomorrow, this hearing.
I mean, it's out of control.
1.5 billion dollars, that's the judgment for so-called defamation, so...
I don't know.
It's a bit excessive, but we will see what happens in this bankruptcy hearing.
I'm sure that I'll be tweeting about it one way or another tomorrow.
That, of course, was Chase Geiser.
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Let's go to the chat and take some questions.
Let's see.
Chase is awesome.
Uh, Tam said the coffee's really great.
Let's scroll up a bit.
Let's see what people were saying.
Alex and critical guests were what mattered.
Not flashy backgrounds and studios and all that garbage.
Let's see.
Let's see.
Side with the Alpha Conservatives.
Scroll up.
And again, look, you know, I wasn't trying to create an awkward situation there for Chase, but, you know, I take my integrity seriously, and I was railing very hard against Tony Lyons, and I, you know, I like and I was railing very hard against Tony Lyons, and I, you know, I like Chase very much, and he asked me to come on my
I said he could come on, and then he said he had a book, and of course, you know, he could promote his book on my show, and that it occurred to me, you know, before the show, that the publisher for the InfoWars books was Sky Horse Publishing.
And so I just wanted to...
You know, make it clear, because people can choose to do what they want with their own money.
And I'm not telling people to not buy his book.
I mean, look, I'm sure that it's an interesting book, but I do want people to know that if they buy the book, or they buy books from Sky Horse Publishing, that you, you know, are sending money to a publishing company that is owned by a guy who happens to be the head of RFK Super PAC.
And I'm not going to lie to my audience.
You know, look, I obviously want People that I know who are writing good books to be able to have success with their books.
But I also don't want the head of RFK's PAC to be making millions of dollars so that he can be pumping more money into RFK.
It's a choice that people make.
I'm not telling people, don't buy this book.
Okay, I'm not trying to be malicious.
I'm sure that it's a good book.
I just want everybody to know what the story is with Sky Horse Publishing.
So, you know, I wasn't trying to create an awkward situation there.
I just personally would feel like a hypocrite, right?
Telling people about Skyhorse Publishing two weeks ago and months ago on my Twitter account, and then, you know, having somebody come on to talk about a book that's published by Skyhorse.
So, again, Chase is not an RFK supporter, and he signed a non-disparagement agreement, so he's not really exactly allowed to talk about the situation.
And he's a Trump supporter, so if you want to support him by purchasing his book, that's your choice.
I like I said, I just feel like I had to disclose the information about Tony.
So that's, you know, it's not an attack on on on Chase.
It's just me making sure that there is transparency about who Tony Lyons is.
And, you know, I feel like that's my responsibility as a Trump loyalist.
So some people may get mad.
Oh, well, let's scroll down and see some more questions in the chat.
Down.
Ronald Rump said, does Laura wear the same clothes twice?
Yeah, I do.
Why?
Because I make an effort to try to wear a different top on all my shows because I'm like, oh, you know, what if they think I wore the same outfit twice?
But I definitely wear the same clothes twice.
I just try to have variety.
Like, I actually was going to wear a shirt earlier, and then I said, oh, I wore that shirt not too long ago.
So I can't wear that shirt.
So this is actually a brand new shirt.
This is my first time wearing this shirt.
So I'm glad that you noticed that I wore something different.
This is not a shirt that I've worn before, so brand new outfit for Loomer Unleashed tonight.
Someone said, yeah, conflict of interest there, Laura.
I see where you're coming from.
Yeah, and look, Chase was a good sport about it.
So again, I'm not trying to be an asshole.
I just feel like I personally have a responsibility as a Trump loyalist to disclose these things because otherwise I'd be a hypocrite.
I'm not a fan of Tony Lyons.
Doesn't mean I'm not a fan of InfoWars or Alex Jones or Chase Geyser.
That's, you know, a totally different subject there.
I have no problem with Alex and InfoWars and Chase.
I'm just talking about the publisher.
That's all.
Just gonna keep it a hundred.
Let's see.
Someone said, Oh my God, are you serious, Laura?
Yes.
I don't know if you're saying, oh my God, are you serious because you're upset with me?
Or you're saying, oh my God, you're serious because of what I just disclosed and you didn't know about it.
But yes, I'm serious.
Let's scroll down some more.
Always serious.
Always serious.
Super serious.
Someone said, let's see.
Thank you.
Thank you.
The only awkward was he found your words amazing.
The rest of us find Laura amazing.
Is Laura Loomer a Christian?
No, I'm Jewish, but we love, I mean, look, everybody I work with is Christian and look, I have no problem with Christians, so I don't see why that would matter, but I appreciate it.
Let's see.
Someone said I look great.
Thank you so much.
See, I said that because you were, okay, so they said, oh my God, are you serious?
Because they were shocked about Skyhorse Publishing.
Yeah, I'm serious.
So I publish a report about it.
People can go read it.
Again, I'm not trying to, you know, hurt people's book sales, but I am just letting people know that when you buy books from Skyhorse Publishing, Tony Lyons gets rich.
And you know, one of the things that this guy's doing with his money right now in a presidential election year is propping up RFK's pack, so.
Again, I'm sure it's a wonderful book.
Let's see.
We have a $10 Super Chat.
Let's read the Super Chat.
Laura, I agree.
The sooner the better on releasing your film, the better.
Trump, I'm sure, will mention your film on all of his rallies until Election Day, based on the trailer you've shown, will be a hit.
Well, thank you so much.
I'm glad you think so.
I sure hope that President Trump will use it.
Maybe he'll even play it at his rallies when people are waiting.
Who knows?
Let's see, what else?
What are some of these other super chats?
What do we have here?
Ronald Rump said, smash the Hunter doll behind you and give us an Alex Jones 4.
Save Info Wars.
I don't want to break it.
It's a really sensitive doll.
Anne MC7, God bless America and President Donald J. Trump, the greatest president ever.
Raider.
Here's another bump.
All right.
Great, well thank you so much for all those super chats.
Someone said at least she lets us know who the people are.
Yep, that is very true.
You know, at least I'm letting you know.
So I just want to be honest with all of you.
Do I think the debate is going to happen?
Yeah, you know, I think the debate is going to happen, but it's going to be really bad for Joe Biden.
All righty.
Well, you know, we answered a lot of Super Chats tonight.
We had two great guests.
A lot of interesting things happened today up on Capitol Hill.
You had President Trump meeting with the House Republicans and also the Senate Republican leadership.
Also today released is President Trump's interview with Logan Paul, who's a popular YouTuber.
And I guess, you know, President Trump met with him, posted the video on his TikTok.
So, if you haven't already watched that interview on Impulsive, be sure that you check that out as well, because that, of course, is all the talk of the town on Twitter right now, is President Trump's interview.
You also have the Virginia primary on Tuesday.
So if you live in Virginia, be sure that you vote in the primary because that's taking place.
And I know that President Donald Trump is going to be doing a teletown hall out of Virginia on Monday, June 17th.
So for those of you who live in Virginia, stay tuned for that because you have an election coming up.
Let's see what else.
Someone said, so by buying the book, we're giving money to RFK Jr.' 's Super PAC, which is basically funding a contingent election against Trump.
Unfortunately, yeah, so I feel like I have a moral responsibility to say that.
I like Chase, I like InfoWars, I'm not trying to hinder anybody's book sales, but I'm being honest that, logically speaking, when you buy books from Sky Horse Publishing, yeah, Tony Lyons gets rich and Tony Lyons might donate more money to the Super PAC American Values that he is the head of for RFK Jr.
I'm just keeping it real because, again, I've been very critical of Tony Lyons and it would be very hypocritical of me to start, you know, promoting books by Skyhorse after I told people About Tony Lyons.
So, it's not an attack, again, on Alex Jones or InfoWars or Chase Geyser.
Again, I'm sure the book is interesting and if you want to order the book, then, you know, that's a personal decision that you're going to have to make.
I'm not telling people to not order the book.
I wanted Chase on my show.
Chase is on my show.
He came out with a book and he's talking about the book.
But again, You know, there's a lot of actors right now in this political season.
Tony Lyons is one of them.
And you even heard Chase himself say that he's, you know, a populist and that he supports President Trump and he's against RFK Jr.
So I'm not doubting the sincerity of Chase.
You know, he clearly says that he thinks that RFK Jr.' 's campaign is a CIA op.
So he's not going to say those things publicly.
If he is an RFK supporter.
So again, if you want to, you know, check out Chase and in his book, that's your choice to do so.
I am just.
Again, it's my job.
It's my job as a journalist to show people the money flows between these super packs and the players involved so.
I'm sure that it's a great book and hopefully he.
Will send me a copy and sign it for me as well.
Let's see.
Yes, that also goes for the book Unhuman by Jack Posobiec that just came out too.
That's another Sky Horse book, right?
So you see that what Tony's doing is he's giving book deals to all of the most popular Trump supporters, and then when he sells millions of copies of books by Trump supporters, he's gonna use that money to then go support RFK.
So full disclosure is important.
I'm just being honest.
So with that, thank you so much to everybody who tuned in to Loomer Unleashed tonight.
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