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EP15: ZELENSKY LOCKS DOWN DC TO BEG BIDEN: Guests Congressman Steve King and Alex Jones' Lawyer,Norm PattisEP15: ZELENSKY LOCKS DOWN DC TO BEG BIDEN: Guests Congressman Steve King and Alex Jones' Lawyer,Norm Pattis
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Good evening and welcome to episode 15 of Loomer Unleashed.
I'm your host, Laura Lumer.
This week, Volodymyr Zelensky, Ukraine's president and emerging dictator, has been making the rounds through Western nations essentially begging for additional support.
Despite the billions of dollars in money, weapons and ammunition sent to Ukraine over the past 22 months, compliments of unwilling U.S.
taxpayers, Ukraine's military appears to be on the brink of total collapse.
Now, in order to hold out longer in the face of impossible odds, Zelensky is in Washington D.C.
today where he attempted to push through additional aid which has completely stalled in Congress since it was attached to measures relating to immigration reform.
It would appear that defending our own borders as a prerequisite to helping others is a deal-breaker for most politicians.
Shocking, I know.
Zelensky, who met with Joe Biden at the White House today, has also been stepping up his alarmist rhetoric in an attempt to recapture the attention of the West, which recently diverted its focus to the conflict between Israel and Hamas.
Earlier this week, he stated that inaction by America is equivalent to handing Putin a victory, as if we haven't been solely propping his country up this entire time at the expense of our own.
The same rhetoric is being echoed by our own Department of Defense as Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin warned members of Congress last week that a failure to pass a Ukraine aid package likely leads to U.S.
troops on the ground in Europe, in what has been described by many this week as a veiled threat to draft the family members of U.S.
representatives and other Americans to fight Russian troops on the ground.
Joe Biden also echoed similar claims last week in a video and it wasn't a gaffe because he said the same thing two times in a row.
And of course his statements were then confirmed by Lloyd Austin.
Meanwhile, amidst all this tough talk, Zelensky has secretly been holding peace negotiations in Switzerland.
The conflict in Ukraine has been a total disaster for everyone involved and has reeked of neoliberal, globalist foreign policy from the get-go.
Let's just take a moment to understand what has really been going on behind the scenes there, okay?
Why is the U.S.
involved in Ukraine to begin with?
It is not because there's some shining beacon of democracy in a sea of totalitarianism.
No, that's not the case.
Ukraine has regularly ranked among the most corrupt nations on planet Earth, and Zelensky has morphed into more of a dictator than an elected leader at this point.
He's cancelled elections, banned the Orthodox Church, and he's even imprisoned American journalists who travel to Ukraine to report on the war.
All of that is a little ironic, don't you think, given that he regularly likes to call Putin an authoritarian, when he himself is no better and is in fact in many ways even worse.
The sole reason that the United States is so interested in Ukraine, the sole reason the media has swooned over Zelensky and supports his country unconditionally, is quite simple.
Ukraine is our way to indirectly damage the Russian nation without directly fighting her.
Understand that we have made this war extremely costly for Russia.
Because of our material support, Ukraine has been able to drain a significant amount of blood and treasure from the Russian military.
To some in our government, that's a tremendous victory.
But why?
What is so victorious about damaging Russia?
What is that?
We try to understand why the United States government wants to harm Russia so much.
Why do so many neoconservative and neoliberal politicians hate Russia and Russians so vehemently?
What is their obsession with Russia, dating all the way back to the 2016 presidential election?
Why are they just so obsessed in the DC swamp with Russia?
The answer is that Russia has refused to play by our rules.
And Russia has rejected the poisonous ideologies that are now plaguing the West.
For example, Russia has totally declined to allow the LGBTQ ideology to take root there.
Just last week, they labeled it as an extremist movement.
Meanwhile, America is flying trans pride flags on our embassies and all around the world.
It's really unbelievable.
Our own military generals are walking around wearing trans flags, and we expect people to take us seriously.
Russia has also refused to bend under the pressure of economic sanctions, which would ordinarily push a nation to its breaking point.
Part of the reason why globalism has become so widespread is because it keeps countries in line through the threat of economic ruin.
For example, should a nation like Canada suddenly go rogue, the sanctions placed upon it by the United States and other members of the United Nations would completely cripple it, bringing it to heel.
Yet Russia has persisted through what would ordinarily destroy an economy.
In short, Russia has escaped the plantation.
They cannot be controlled.
They won't be controlled.
And what cannot be controlled is considered a threat to the globalist status quo.
And to the globalists, anything that cannot be controlled and will not submit to control must be destroyed.
Including the American people, as many of us learned over these last few years with COVID.
And the stolen election and many of the other lies and forms of oppression that our own government put us through.
That is why we are so heavily involved in Ukraine.
That is why we have given so much aid to them.
It is not because we like them.
It is because we believe.
And it's not because we believe in them.
It is because we can use them to punish Russia and make them pay for not falling in line.
And by we, of course, I'm speaking of the United States government.
But Ukraine is quickly running out of usefulness.
Despite holding out for months on end in what boiled down to a stalemate, okay, the Ukrainians appear to finally be running out of manpower.
That's why Zelensky was panhandling at the White House today with Joe Biden.
As the Ukrainians begin to retreat, their usefulness to our evil foreign policy machine here in the United States of America is going to eventually come to an end.
Tragically, tens of thousands of Ukrainians and Russians alike will have lost their lives over a senselessly long and brutal conflict, the motivations for which extend beyond their borders and back into the swamp of Washington, D.C.
And of course, none of this conflict would be taking place right now.
Let us remember, if President Trump was in the White House right now, had the 2020 election not be stolen.
But yes, stolen elections have consequences, as the Ukrainians and the Russians are learning.
And the American taxpayers, of course, because we're paying for this mess.
So, with the 2024 presidential election looming, there is no doubt that Zelensky in Ukraine And this issue, this never-ending conflict, will play a major role in foreign policy discussions.
In fact, it already is.
If a bloodthirsty neocon, for example, like Nikki Haley, were to get anywhere near the White House, expect the United States to double down on defending Ukraine to the bitter end.
That would likely mean billions more in spending and probably even American troops on the ground fighting Russians.
It is no wonder then, for this reason, why Nikki Haley's top campaign donor, as I reported on extensively last week, is Jan Cohen, a Ukrainian billionaire and Kiezelinski ally and donor.
Fortunately, Nikki Haley has very little chance of even coming close to securing the GOP nomination.
But the GOP nomination is now nearly guaranteed to President Trump, whose firm and steady head helped keep these types of flashpoints around the world from boiling over during his administration.
You see, Donald Trump is the only anti-war candidate running for president in 2024 who has an actual true proven record from his first term in office of being anti-war.
But what will Zelensky do should Donald Trump appear to be heading back to the White House, as is the case right now?
You see, another Trump presidency means that the tap of never-ending United States funding would likely be shut off to Ukraine and people like Volodymyr Zelensky.
Who will Zelensky beg to then?
Honestly, you know, it's really not even out of the question then to imagine a scenario, if you will, where instead of this fake Russia collusion, there may actually be real Ukrainian collusion to get some type of pro-Zelensky friendly operative into office in 2024.
But only time will tell.
And my question is, will Ukraine even be around come next November 2024?
Who knows?
Maybe Putin will reclaim it all.
I guess we're just gonna have to see what happens.
There is a young female journalist, conservative journalist, by the name of Laura Loomer.
If America's men acted like Laura Loomer, our problems would be fixed in about five minutes.
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She changed it.
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I'm your host, Laura Loomer.
Today was a wild day on Capitol Hill.
We're going to have a lot of really interesting guests tonight.
We have Congressman Steve King who's going to be joining us to talk about some breaking news out of Iowa.
We know President Trump is expected to be in Iowa tomorrow for a Commit to Caucus event, so we're excited to hear from Congressman Steve King.
We also have Loomer Unleashed correspondent Charles Downs reporting from the swamp, giving us his weekly update live from the swamp.
I sent Charles today to go chase down Zelensky.
And that's exactly what he did.
We were actually the only media entity today, I'm proud to say, that got exclusive video footage of Zelensky and his motorcade going into the White House.
And his motorcade going into the White House.
All the other reporters were on the wrong side of the White House when Zelensky was trying to enter.
All the other reporters were on the wrong side of the White House when Zelensky was trying to enter.
And so we'll be playing those clips for you today.
And so we'll be playing those clips for you today.
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But look, new poll numbers out today show that President Trump is beating Ron DeSantis by over 41 points in Florida.
We're going to hear from Steve King shortly about the upcoming Iowa caucus, which is about a month away.
And he has some breaking news out of Iowa tonight about how pro-Ron DeSantis and anti-Trump Iowa lawmakers are trying to bring BlackRock into Iowa to screw over Iowa farmers.
And so stay tuned for that.
Steve King will be joining us at about 9.30, 9.40, depending on how long this interview goes with Norm Pattis, who will be joining soon.
You may have seen over the weekend that Alex Jones and InfoWars and Owen Schroer, of course, InfoWars host, were all reinstated to Twitter.
And that, of course, caused a lot of controversy because the Democrats hate free speech.
And so you saw All the grifters on the right, of course, who spent years blacklisting Alex Jones and never giving a damn about Alex Jones.
All of a sudden, right, Alex Jones is like their best friend.
And you see all these people now talking about how they want to have Alex on their show and Alex this and Alex that.
So that was big.
There was a big space this weekend.
Joining me soon, we're going to have Norm Pattison.
He is Alex Jones's lawyer.
He's also Owen Schroer's lawyer and the lawyer for InfoWars.
And he's going to come on and talk about, you know, the significance of what this means for Alex, for free speech, for InfoWars.
And of course, we saw the release of Owen Schroer this last week as well.
Owen Schroer was sentenced to two months in prison over January 6th.
I believe he was released early as well.
He was sent to prison and Norm is going to talk to us about his clients and these cases.
I understand that Norm is also involved in a petition to the Supreme Court regarding a January 6th client.
He's represented several of the J6ers, including some of the Proud Boys.
I was in attendance for those rallies, so I got to spend some time with Norm up in Washington, D.C.
And so we have a lot to talk about tonight and a jam-packed lots of interesting guests and with that I believe Norm is now connected.
We're gonna bring on Norm Pattis who's a constitutional lawyer, criminal defense lawyer based out of Connecticut but of course a Many of you have become familiar with him because he, of course, is, as I said, Alex Jones's lawyer, represented him in the Sandy Hook trial, which made international headlines.
And so without further ado, I want to welcome Norm Pattis.
Norm, thank you so much for coming on Lumiere Unleashed tonight.
How are you doing?
I'm well.
Thanks for having me, Laura.
Yeah, of course.
Great to see you again.
You know, last time I saw you, we were sitting in a courtroom in Washington, D.C.
with the Proud Boys, so that was eventful.
But now, of course, you and your clients... That was traumatic.
Eventful, you know.
Yes.
Eventful and traumatic.
Eventful, of course.
in the sense that it was really sad to see no media, right?
No media, no members of Congress.
And it was really eye-opening, too, for me.
I got to see firsthand, not that I really believed any of these members of Congress who said that they wanted to help the J6ers, like Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene, who didn't even bother to show up.
But it was just really sad because I got to see you try to get in touch with some of these members of Congress to help restore military benefits for people like Joe Biggs, your clients, of course, and they just didn't give a damn.
And it's just really sad.
I knew these people were terrible people, but it really just reinforced how awful these members of Congress who pretend to be America First really are.
So we don't really have many fighters, except we have Congressman Steve King, who's no longer in Congress anymore.
He's going to be coming up on the show, but I just don't really have faith in any of them, and you being in the courtroom helped really reinforce that for me.
So, Norm, big week for you, right?
Your client, Owen Schroer, got released early from prison, and your client, Alex Jones, just got reinstated.
You know, I know that you can't really break attorney-client privilege, so if you get in a position where you can't answer a question, that's fine.
You let me know.
But what is this looking like now for Alex?
I saw that Alex was on a space with Elon that I was on this weekend as well, and he said that he's willing to do spaces with the family members of Sandy Hook victims, and Do you foresee Alex Jones being back on X as a game changer for his case?
Do you find that maybe some of these victims' family members are going to be receptive to have conversations with Alex and allow him to explain his side of the story now that he is once again back in the public eye?
You know, that's hard to say.
I mean, you know, the Alex Jones trial in the Sandy Hook case was, in my view, as much of a conspiracy theory as anything Alex may have said about Sandy Hook.
He was defaulted for not complying with discovery.
Even though, in our view, he had substantially complied.
He gave tens of thousands of documents, emails, to his adversaries.
He and his staff sat for dozens of depositions.
I think there were nearly 50 of them.
And the defense was, the prosecution rather, the plaintiffs, were permitted to use these pieces of information against him in adhering in damages.
He couldn't defend himself.
And then they persuaded the judge to limit what Alex could say on the stand.
So effectively, his hands were tied.
The result was a catastrophic judgment of more than a billion dollars.
And I think the plaintiffs' lawyers persuaded the plaintiffs that this was real money.
And so the plaintiffs are coming down slowly, and they're coming down hard in the bankruptcy proceedings in Texas.
Recently, I think the plaintiffs' lawyers offered to settle the case for $85 million over 10 years.
That's still unrealistic.
There just isn't that kind of money there.
There never was.
And so I think the courts Behaved irresponsibly in the Jones case, and the result was it created sky-high expectations in the eyes of the plaintiffs.
And it's going to be hard for them to walk away from that.
Well, how do you foresee this for your clients?
I see that Owen is out of prison early.
A lot of people are wondering how he was able to actually get out early and if there was some type of deal made or if he was just on his best behavior.
I couldn't really answer people's questions when they asked me why he was released early, so maybe you can shed some light on that for the viewers tonight.
Owen's case was really chilling, just to back up for a second.
You know, people say, well, you know, because we're trying to get his case in front of the U.S.
Supreme Court, and they're saying, well, he pled guilty.
What's the issue?
Here's the issue.
Owen was pled guilty to a trespassery offense.
In other words, he was on Capitol grounds when he shouldn't have been.
Okay.
The government, and he faced zero to six months in prison according to federal sentencing guidelines.
The federal government filed a sentencing memo saying he should go to prison because he engaged in disinformation in the months before January 6th.
He should go to prison because he's highly influential at Infowars and millions of people watch him.
He should go to prison because he was chanting 1776 and deaths of tyrants.
Those things have nothing to do with trespass.
And so we said to the sentencing judge, you can't sentence him, you can't let this evaluate your decision on whether to send him to prison, that he engaged in protected speech, that he petitioned for the redress of grievance, that he peacefully assembled.
Yeah, he trespassed, but no more.
The judge did rely on his protected speech and put him away for a couple of months.
When Owen got to the Oakville facility in Louisiana, he was initially placed on one week's quarantine.
Which was a standard protocol for fear that there'd be COVID.
When he was released, he got on the phone with a colleague and his colleague recorded what he said.
And that recording was broadcast on InfoWars.
The prison threw him in the hole again.
And he didn't have a hearing for several weeks.
And when he did have a hearing, it was a sham.
They basically said, don't plead guilty.
You're going to spend the rest of your time here in the hole.
Well, and I was just going to say, I know that you and I had been messaging back and forth.
And then, of course, there's so much in the news cycle.
And I had told you that I was going to get you on my show.
And we were just kind of waiting for the time.
And I was thinking maybe when when when Owen was released, that'd be a good time.
And then everything happened with Alex this weekend.
And I thought, oh, it'd be a great time.
But we had been talking for the last two weeks about when to get you on the show.
And you had told me That you guys actually contacted Speaker Johnson's office, and hopefully I'm not revealing too much information here, but I figure that we might as well just, you know, tell the truth here since people are, you know, kind of hypnotized into thinking wrongfully so that Speaker Johnson is really on our side.
You know, Owen Schroer was jailed in a jail that was located in Speaker Mike Johnson's district shortly after Mike Johnson became I know it's better than that.
I was first alerted to that by a guest call in who called in on my show and you were watching and you saw it.
And we were able to get tons of phone calls out to to his office to try to raise awareness about this.
And you actually called as Owen Schreyer's legal counsel, Speaker Johnson's office, and you were ignored.
So why don't you tell everybody better than that?
I went to his office.
Yeah, I went to watch the House subcommittee on Bureau of Prisons from the Judiciary Committee.
And they wanted the Bureau of Prisons director was asked point blank about Owen.
I mean, she played the, you know, see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil monkey.
Ooh, I don't know the name!
They tried to get commitments from her to go to visit.
Matt Gaetz did, and Representative Andy Biggs did.
And Representative Biggs showed extraordinary interest in Owen.
I went together with Ivan Reikland to Speaker Johnson's office and met with some of his staff, left message, left contact information, said, somebody's got to check on him.
I can't even get in touch with my client.
He's being held because of speech.
He was put in solitary confinement as punishment because of speech.
Can somebody go and check on him?
It's right in your district.
Send a staff member.
And I heard crickets in response to this day.
I've not heard back from them.
It's very, very disappointing.
And so, were you able to speak with him face-to-face when you went to his office?
No, not with Representative Johnson, no.
But with Andy Biggs, definitely.
He was very gracious.
But you went to his office.
You went to his office, and even though he's the new Speaker of the House, just to show how out of touch this guy is, because I don't think he's that bright, honestly.
I think the guy was dropped on his head.
I mean, they want to say that, oh, he's an evangelical.
Okay, yeah, you've got to be more than just an evangelical if you're going to be Speaker of the House, you know?
Great.
I don't really see how being an evangelical really plays into being An effective member of Congress or an effective Speaker of the House.
I've yet to see it with Speaker Johnson's failed leadership.
But he's got to know, he's got to know that InfoWars and Alex Jones and Owen Troyer are some of the most popular right-wing, I mean traditionally MAGA, right?
MAGA, MAGA...
Media pundits or journalists, right?
Whatever you want to call them.
Media pundits, journalists.
Some people call them pundits, some people call them journalists.
But, uh, the fact that this guy didn't even take time to address it and had his office completely ignore it, even though you went to his office, is just mind-boggling.
And for me, it's a testament to how stupid Mike Johnson is.
That he doesn't even at least want to placate the base.
Like, the guy will lie about everything, okay?
He lied about, uh, he lied about, uh, about, um, Releasing the J6 tapes in full.
He's lied about so many different things and yet he couldn't just issue a statement about Owen Schroyer being jailed in his own district?
I just can't understand why.
Maybe you can help me understand why.
I wish I could.
My experience with Congress in general and J6 has been deeply frustrating.
You may recall, Laura, during the trial of the Proud Boys, which lasted from about this time last year into early May, for months on end, we had a number of secret or sealed proceedings that had to do with confidential human sources and the FBI's infiltration of sources into these groups.
And we'd have hearings off the record.
The press would be thrown out.
We'd be ordered not to talk about it.
I've got a briefing book on confidential human sources that were in the Proud Boys that I can't share with the public.
This was at a time when Jim Jordan and the Weaponization Committee was studying this.
I contacted Jordan's office, got no response back.
There could have been an interesting constitutional crisis at that point.
Had any of the lawyers in the Proud Boys case received a subpoena from Congress asking them to bring information the federal judiciary had refused or denied us permission to disclose, we would have had to decide which branch of government to obey.
And I was, you know, I had lawyered up, I consulted counsel to decide what I'd do in that instance, and to this day I'm not sure what I would have done.
My lawyer gave me mixed advice.
You're an officer of the court.
You have to obey the court.
I'm also a citizen of the United States.
I get a congressional subpoena.
Laura, as God is my witness, I'm persuaded that the largest untold story in the J6 prosecutions has to do with the embedding of confidential human sources and the use of confidential paid sources by the FBI to surveil the right.
I think it parallels what happened in the era of the Warren Commission when the FBI and Contopro and other programs infiltrated the left and did so much damage.
The Weaponization Committee missed an opportunity to study that event.
Now, you know, a lot of people are out there doing good work on this now with respect to the 44,000 hours of videos that are being slow leaked into the public.
But what we're missing is a coherent narrative.
But the hours haven't been released, though.
Let's be honest about this, right?
Because Speaker Johnson, this is what I don't like about him, right?
Every single time there's some kind of controversy where the Republicans drop the ball and he uses Ukraine as a crutch, right?
And he uses the J6 as a fallback to basically be his soft landing for his compromise on issues like Ukraine.
Right.
We can't get funding to secure our own border, but we're going to send more money to Ukraine.
Right.
We can't we can't just get a regular National Defense Authorization Act without them trying to reinstitute the Patriot Act on on steroids by by sneaking in, you know, FISA 2.0.
But but he's going to issue a statement like he did, saying that he's releasing all of the J6 footage when he's only released about 90 hours of the 44000 hours.
And so, you know, they like to tease people.
They like to tease people.
And hopefully, people always say to me, oh, Laura, you just hate everybody.
You never want to celebrate a Republican win.
Because this isn't a win.
This isn't a win.
This is not a win.
It's not a win when 99 hours of the 44,000 hours are released.
As a J6 lawyer, please let the audience know, right, that this isn't just me bashing Mike Johnson.
Have the 44,000 hours been released like Mike Johnson said that they were released?
I'm asking you to answer live on air.
Here's the problem.
Here's the problem.
Even if all 44,000 hours are released, you know, 40,000 of them are going to be irrelevant.
They're going to be videos of some area where nothing really happened.
A storage room, let's say.
But of the 4,000 that are, we're not going to know how to decode them.
And I worry that they're going to be like a Rorschach test for American politics.
If somebody's seen throwing an item, it was violent.
If somebody's seen walking peacefully down the hall, it was peaceful.
I think what we need is context.
You know, there was a very, very fascinating moment in the Proud Boys trial where Roger Roots, on behalf of Dominic Pozzola, filed a motion asking the government to release to us the identity of all confidential informants, whether from the FBI, Homeland Security, CIA, other intelligence agencies so that we could get a beat of what was going on.
And the reason we wanted all this is we knew that federal agents were embedded in the group and we knew that there was no plan for violence on January 6th.
The government kept wanting to say there was.
But that's why they won't release it.
Now they keep on saying that they want to blur the photos and the faces.
Yeah, because like you said, they don't want people seeing the faces of these informants.
And we're not going to get the truth of it.
This is the amazing part that just doesn't get reported.
You know, we had been, we entered a stipulation.
The Justice Department meddled this one night.
They said, look, we'll tell you there were at least eight, but take your foot off the gas.
Given the way the rulings were breaking in the court, we took the stipulation as to the eight.
Then information came that the Metropolitan Police Department had 20 or more people.
And so Roger filed a motion asking the government to identify all people from whatever agency.
And the trial judge, Timothy J. Kelly, had the audacity to say, That's too complicated a task.
The government's not on trial here.
And I'm like, I am so sick of that BS.
It's the United States of America versus my client.
And the government is on trial.
They are on trial.
You have the right to challenge their credibility.
And for the judge to throw up his hands and say, oh, we can't get our hands around this problem, it's too big, suggests that he cares less about the liberty he's supposed to protect as an Article 3 officer of the court.
Well then that also means that there must be so many informants that it's overwhelming for them to compile.
I mean that's the first thing that comes to my mind.
If you're asking them to release the identities of these people and they're saying that that is too big of a task for us to do.
I mean how many of these people were there?
How many informants did they have there that day?
So it just really puts it into perspective for you because They say that it's too overwhelming, yet they can identify, you know, 3,000 Americans and knock down the doors of 3,000 Americans and they're still doing it today.
To this day, there are people, just last week there was a woman in Texas who, her door was kicked down by the FBI because they discovered that she was there on J6.
They're still not done identifying people.
When I was in DC with you and I was there with John Pierce and I was attending some of these trials, one of the defense attorneys, one of the lawyers for the government and a couple of the different defense attorneys were all chatting with each other because they become, you know, friendly.
Not like friends, but you see each other so often that you end up chatting and you may have even been privy to this conversation and perhaps John Pierce even told you, but he goes, Oh yeah, so how many more of these cases are you guys expecting?
And they said, oh, the government is announcing another 1,000.
This was in January.
You were there.
So there had already been about 1,200.
So imagine another 1,000, and then there's still more after that, right?
So it's not over.
Here's one thing that just blows me away.
Three years after the American Civil War, a war that claimed the lives of 600,000 Americans, We had repatriated almost every rebel and went about the task of rebuilding a nation together.
Three years after a six-hour riot at the Capitol, we're still indicting people for misdemeanors and invading their home with SWAT teams.
What broke in the country?
What are we so afraid of that we can't put this one six-hour riot behind us and work at rebuilding the country?
Instead, justice has been weaponized.
Look, you know, people on the left like to chant, defund the police.
I've got a different chant.
Let's defund the Justice Department.
Yeah, well, the Republicans don't have the balls.
The Republicans don't have the balls.
The Republicans are in control of the House right now.
I agree with you.
I agree, but listen, they could easily do it.
They could easily do it with the budget, okay?
They could easily say, we're going to shut the government down until we remove all funding.
You can't impeach these people.
You have to fire them, right?
They have to be removed.
These political appointees, right?
Because they are political appointees.
And so they need to be removed.
And the only way to remove them is by strong-arming the agencies by saying, you know what?
You're not going to get any funding.
You're not going to get any funding from us unless these people are removed.
You could remove Merrick Garland.
You could remove Christopher Wray.
You could remove all these people.
But the Republicans just don't have the balls, it seems like.
To shut the government down and say, we're not allocating any more money to the FBI or the DOJ until these people are removed.
And in fact, not only do they not have the balls, but they're voting against resolutions to stop funding the FBI.
And so they want a $300 million allocation.
I'm sure you saw this two weeks ago.
And over 70 Republicans voted with Democrats to strike out an amendment that would have removed the $300 million of additional funding to the FBI so that they can have a new headquarter office larger than the Pentagon.
Can somebody please explain to me why the FBI, the Federal Bureau of Insurrectionists, needs a headquarter office larger than the United States Pentagon?
I just, that should scare people.
Yeah, because all that information they're collecting about us has to go somewhere.
Yeah, but it's just unbelievable.
The Loomer Room is growing bigger every week, you know?
Yeah, I mean, look, it's just really unbelievable to me because the power's in the hands of Republicans right now.
They could have shut down the government, right, but it's always an excuse.
The Democrats don't give a shit about shutting down the government.
They shut the government down.
They shut the government down because they didn't want to give Donald Trump $5.7 billion to protect our southern border.
Obviously, these people don't give a shit about $5.7 billion because, as we saw today, They've given $300 billion to some Ukrainian dictator.
So there really is a total breakdown of our country and our government, like you said.
It's really sad because, as you said, look, they can't get over the six-hour protest in Washington, D.C.
on January 6 years ago.
We're coming up again on another anniversary.
And yet, look, we had a Hamas erection just two days ago.
You had Hamas supporters who were in the United States Capitol Hiding inside the sculptures inside the Senate building, trying to protest for ceasefire now.
Isn't that by definition an insurrection if we're going to call January 6th an insurrection?
I mean, what do you think about the double standard with the pro-Palestine, pro-Hamas crowd going inside and not being held accountable the same way that These J6ers are, and your clients, because you're representing Owen Schroer, you represented Joe Biggs from the Proud Boys, you represented Alex Jones, you represent InfoWars, and it's my understanding, too, that you also have a writ of certiorari in front of the Supreme Court right now, is that correct?
For another J6er?
Yeah, for Jake Lang.
Tell us about that.
One of the tools that the prosecution has used to club the right, or the protesters on J6, Is an application of an amendment to the Sarbanes-Oxley Act.
So what am I referring to?
I'm referring to 18 United States Code section 1512, in particular subsection C. And this has to do with obstructing an official proceeding.
Now, what that statute initially meant is that if you mess around with a piece of paper, you know, that's supposed to go into court, or you try to intimidate a witness, you're going to get in trouble.
And that's an offense that carries up to 20 years.
After the Enron catastrophe, many people were able to evade prosecution under the statute as written, so Congress passed an amendment.
And that amendment basically says, if with a corrupt purpose you quote, otherwise obstruct an official proceeding, you're just as guilty as if you intimidated a witness or destroyed a document that had been subpoenaed.
And so that statute has been applied to protesters at January 6th.
Now, in Mr. Lange's case, he's represented initially at trial by Steve Metcalf.
Metcalf filed a motion to dismiss the 1512c count.
Judge Nichols agreed.
The government took an appeal, and in Jake's case and two other cases, Nichols dismissed that count, basically saying it was a misapplication of the statute.
Mr. Lange authorized me to file a writ of certiorari to the Supreme Court.
A couple of the other defendants followed.
Those three petitions were on a conference calendar last Friday, and last Friday the court granted several petitions, denied scores of others, but it's going to relist Jake's petition for another day.
Some think it could be as early as January 5th.
That signals that the court is more than nominally interested in this issue, and we're hopeful that they'll grant us a writ of certiorari so that we can go to the court and say, look, law lives within the meets and bounds in part of congressional intent, and you can't permit the Justice Department to stretch it and turn it into a club to beat people.
You know, in some cases, unlawful activity.
And there was violence on January 6th.
Don't let anybody pretend otherwise.
But there wasn't an obstruction of an official proceeding.
There were misdemeanors and some low-level felonies.
But to put a felony in place that permits the government to put a 20-year hammer over somebody's head is just wrong.
And so hundreds of people have been affected.
This statute has been charged in the Trump prosecution.
Um, and so we're hopeful that the Supreme Court will look at it.
In fact, you know, the Supreme Court is highly engaged in the Trump prosecution right now.
You know, Jack Smith, if you have any doubts about whether the criminal prosecution of Trump is inspired by the election cycle, look at what I call him, Jalapeno Jack, because every time you see a picture of Smith in the paper, he looks like this.
You know, and I'm wondering, where's the jalapeno that he swallowed?
So Jalapeno Jack has asked the United States Supreme Court to intervene immediately in an appeal that Trump's team had filed.
Trump's team claimed that his speech on January 6th was immune because he was president and he was entitled to immunity.
Yeah, I saw that.
I saw that that was done this week as well.
So now he's asking.
So the D.C. Court of Appeals disagreed and Smith wants to go, or the trial court rather, Smith wants to skip the appellate court and go right to the Supreme Court because it's important that this case be tried in March.
Why is it important?
Gee, what else is happening in March, the day after trial begins?
The primaries begin.
Meanwhile, there are people who've been arrested and are awaiting trial on January 6th, and they can't get into Judge Chutkan's courtroom because Smith is folded up with the Trump political prosecution.
It's wrong.
Client Jake Lang, who's been sitting in jail for how long now?
It's been more than a thousand days.
Without a trial?
Yes.
It's just unbelievable.
They're hostages.
These people are hostages.
They are political prisoners being held hostage by the United States government.
I mean, there's some rhetoric in there, but it's not untrue.
None of these people engaged in a plan to overthrow democracy.
There was a riot that got out of control.
Almost none of these folks had significant criminal histories, but yet they've been held in lieu of bond as though they were terrorists.
As though they were threats to the community, as though they were flight risks.
They weren't.
The Justice Department is trying to make a point.
Don't protest.
Because if you protest and anything goes wrong within arm's length of you, we're going to throw you in jail as an insurrectionist.
This is a country of insurrectionists.
You know, the guys at the Boston Tea Party would have probably been executed.
Our country was founded in an act of insurrection.
Our country was founded in an act of insurrection.
So with that, how do you foresee these Trump trials playing out?
I mean, given your own experience with the D.C.
courts, we have about five more minutes left, and so I just wanted to let you, you know, either give your closing thoughts on how you think that, given what you're witnessing, right, in the D.C.
courtroom now with the Proud Boys and with your other J6 clients, what do you think is going to happen?
What's your prediction?
And how do you see this playing out?
You know, in a normal federal trial, it takes maybe a day to pick the jury.
There are streamlined proceedings.
The judge conducts jury selection mostly.
The lawyers have very little input.
You get to make decisions, but not really address the panel.
It was so difficult to find people who didn't have strong biases.
affecting their ability to be fair and impartial, that it took us 13 days to pick the Proud Boys jury.
And one of the things that was striking to me is that almost everybody knew who the Proud Boys were and nobody liked them.
Many people knew who Antifa were, they were sympathetic.
Many people had relatives who attended marches for pro-abortion rights, for this, that, or the other thing.
Nobody went to a MAGA march.
And so we kept raising with the judge, this is not a fair cross-section of the community.
Oh, we're going to have the trial.
If you actually read the Sixth Amendment, there's a quirky clause in it.
It says that you have a right to a trial in the state and, and is a significant word in the law, And the district where the crime occurred.
The District of Columbia is not a state.
The conspiracies that these men engaged in took place in other states.
These trials should have been moved out of D.C.
They should have been moved and they're polling directly from a jury poll out of D.C.
proper.
We're not talking about Virginia.
We're not talking about Maryland.
We're talking about D.C.
where a majority of the population is black.
And I say that because it's supposed to be a jury of your peers, and they've said that Donald Trump is a white supremacist.
They say that the Proud Boys and all the people that attended J6 are white supremacists.
And so the race honestly does matter.
It does matter because it's really not a jury of your peers when 95% of the jury pool voted for Joe Biden, or so they say.
You know, these are people who have been conditioned based off the color of their skin and the fake news media to believe that Donald Trump and his supporters are white supremacists.
So I think that that actually has a lot to do with people like President Trump and Trump supporters and anybody who was arrested over J6 not getting a fair trial.
Some people will try to say that they're colorblind and that it doesn't matter.
You can't really sequester a jury when the mainstream media has been obsessing about January 6th.
Like, how do you escape, right, any news coverage for three years straight, right?
This idea that you can sequester a jury is, like, so nonsensical in the age of social media and mainstream fake news just blasted everywhere, like, propaganda everywhere you look.
Well, what was particularly galling in the Proud Boys case is as we began jury selection, Congress released, the House of Representatives released its report naming the Proud Boys as instigators.
That's all over the news.
As we ended the case, during closing arguments or just before them, Joe Biden announced he was running for president using an advertisement blaming the Proud Boys and showing these highly dramatic photos of the Capitol.
And we bring this up with the court detail.
There's no evidence that the jury saw this.
A properly instructed jury is presumed to follow the law.
We told them to ignore media attention.
Bullshit!
I mean, that wasn't good.
It wouldn't be good enough for the judge's wife or his family.
It wasn't good enough for our clients.
So I'm very, you know, I've got Joe Biggs and Zach Grell, another member of the Proud Boys on appeal.
And those briefs will be filed early next year in the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals.
We're on our way to the United States Supreme Court in that case, too, because what happened in that case?
You know, during closing arguments, Conor Mulro, the government lawyer who gave the closing argument, told the truth to the jury.
This was not there.
There didn't have to be a plan for these men to be convicted.
This conspiracy could have been formed instantaneously the moment they breached Capitol grounds.
In other words, he was conceding there was no long-term plan.
This wasn't a result of a large conspiracy.
It's a crowd that broke, but yet The government spent months presenting evidence of discrete communications on Parler and other social media sites, every utterance of which was protected speech.
So people's speech, people's speech in protest, was used to prove that they engaged in a plan that the government knows didn't exist.
And when the government stood before the jury and said this conspiracy could have been formed instantaneously with an implicit understanding at the moment of the breach, they basically said everything else we offered is bullshit.
And you know, from my perspective, this case is a chilling example of how the government can turn your speech into a weapon used to deprive you of liberty.
We see now, too, that the House Republicans are about to lose their majority.
I personally think that we're going to have Speaker Hakeem Jeffries by March, by March, probably March 15th, because when you look at the fact that we're now going to have a one-seat majority with the departure of Bill Johnson, George Santos, Kevin McCarthy, and there's other representatives as well who have announced their retirement.
And you look at the geriatric makeup of Congress, right?
All it takes is for one of these members to suffer a heart attack or a stroke or to announce that they too are going to retire abruptly some reason, you know?
Some of them are getting old, their spouses may die, who knows?
And we're going to have a speaker, Hakeem Jeffries.
So how do you foresee Just the lack of Republican leadership and also a potential looming Democrat speakership in the spring of 2024 impacting these cases, right?
And also the future... It'll be awful because that'll just embolden the Justice Department to use the rule of law as a political weapon, as a club to silence the right.
You know, if I speak up on behalf... If I say I'm opposed to reparations as a matter of law, Because I didn't hold a slave and I'm not a white supremacist.
I'm accused of being a racist.
Hakeem Jeffries in that club will endorse that rhetoric and people who protest the identitarian makeup or the identity politics will say, we'll be accused of white privilege and we'll be told that we're supremacists and that we ought to sit down and shut up, you know.
I think Van Jones, there was a meme of him online or a little clip of him online the other day saying basically, you know, what we need white people to do is just get used to being minority and sit down and shut up.
And basically what that was was a concession that they're going to play the race card to try to take things they're not entitled to.
And if I oppose it, it doesn't make me a racist.
It makes me perhaps misanthropic, not trusting anyone.
And so I am very, I have reservations about the shape of things to come.
I think we increasingly, we're living in what I will refer to as a failed state.
I don't think that there's going to be a civil war because there's not an issue as polarizing as was slavery in the 1860s, but we're ungovernable.
And maybe that's the way it should be.
But I think 2024 is going to be a wild electoral ride.
I look forward to watching you and seeing what happens.
I agree, and with that, Norm, I think that's a good place to finish.
Any last comments about your clients being reinstated before we go?
Anything you want fans of InfoWars or Alex Jones and Owen Schroer to know about their reinstatement and what it means, I guess, for the future of free speech?
Yeah, I think it's a wonderful thing.
You know, I've known Alex now for about five years, and I've watched him struggle through deplatforming and vicious legal attacks that have had dozens of lawyers involved and taken us through courts all over the country.
And he's persisted in speaking a simple truth, and that is that individuals want significance in their own skin, they want significance in their own community, and there are larger forces in the world What he refers to is globalists who seek to inform or impose a vision of uniformity on the human spirit.
And it ain't gonna happen.
And so I think that Elon bringing Alex back on to X was a great thing.
I think that Owen's return is a great thing.
You know, Elon remains an interesting guy.
I watched interviews with him over the weekend.
It was a little distressing.
I thought a lot of people were sucking up to the richest guy in the room, and I'm worried that he's got all this power, and he's kind of idiosyncratic and quirky.
But what I like about Infowars, what I like about Alex, what I like about Owen, is their populism.
They know that what destroys every dystopia is the human spirit's ability to say no.
And every man is a protagonist in the struggle against dystopia on InfoWars.
And so Alex, welcome back to X. I wish you all the best.
And Owen, keep talking because I'll keep listening.
Thank you, Laura.
Thank you.
Thank you, of course.
Where can people follow you, Norm?
Um, so, you know, I have a, like, by contrast to you, just a small little podcast.
It's called Law and Legitimacy.
You can find us wherever podcasts are broadcast.
We do a half an hour a day, Monday through Friday.
We're on 8 a.m.
Eastern Time.
It's called Law and Legitimacy, wherever you find podcasts.
And what's your ex-account handle?
Um, Norm Pattis.
Norm Pattis, all right.
Norm underscore Pattis, yeah.
All right, Norm.
Well, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and your insight and what it's like, you know, representing Alex and InfoWars and, uh, Owen and, uh, we wish them all the best.
It's a war alright, but you know, I'd have it no other way.
And thank you for your... And thank you for your support, Laura.
It meant the world to see you at the trials there in DC.
Of course, you know, I like putting my money where my mouth is, and I put my money, literally, you know, delivering you a check.
I delivered you a check for your clients, helped raise some money for those proud boys, and, you know, I just do what I can.
I think I have a responsibility having the platform that I have, and I've been doing it even while banned.
I was just as banned as Alex Jones, you know, if not more, and Alex has even said so live on his show.
So I will continue to be a voice for the voiceless because I know what it's like to be one of the voiceless and the silenced.
And so it's my pleasure.
Thank you.
Thank you for having me.
Yeah, of course.
Thanks.
Thank you for coming on.
Wonderful.
You know, it's always great to hear from the lawyers, right, and the legal counsel.
We've had J6ers on the show, we've had a lot of people on the show, and now you get to hear, you know, the same thing from their lawyers because we had John Pierce on recently as well.
Really scary things happening in this country, guys.
Once they try to silence you, they try to lock you up in jail.
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And that is why it's so important that people back up their wealth, okay, with precious metals like gold and silver.
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Oh, I know, right?
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I'll sleep when I'm dead, you guys.
I gotta break the news and bring you some stories.
The J6ers should contact Jay Sekulow and do a class action lawsuit against the federal government.
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The judges ignoring higher courts need to be disbarred.
Yeah, well, good luck with that, right?
That's exactly what needs to happen.
Unfortunately, you know, we have a banana republic in this country.
So we're going to bring Congressman Steve King on.
He's in the queue.
As you know, Congressman Steve King is one of the most... He was one of the first members of Congress to endorse Donald Trump in 2015.
Great guy out of Iowa.
Personally, one of the only politicians I like.
People always say, Laura, You have a personality disorder.
You just don't like anybody.
I mean, there's something wrong with you.
And I'm like, no!
I'm an equal opportunity hater, okay?
I hate the Republicans and I hate the Democrats.
It's not like I'm picking sides and being unfair here, you guys, okay?
I don't like any of these people because they're awful people.
And I'm pretty sure that my next guest is going to back me up on that.
He had his fair share of spending time in the swamp with disloyal, treacherous politicians, and he got to see firsthand that That, uh, you know, keeping these people at a distance and being an equal opportunity hater is probably the best way to approach it when you're in a den full of snakes.
And so with that, one of my favorite members of Congress, former members of Congress, I guess now, unfortunately, thanks to Kevin McCarthy, Congressman Steve King.
Welcome to the show, Congressman.
How are you doing tonight?
Well, thanks a lot for having me on, Laura.
And when I hear you say that you don't like people, and about the personality disorder, maybe you like people with personality disorders, and that would be me.
Because I'm one of those people that just, I take it the way it is, too.
I tell it how it is.
And actually, I'm the other way around, though.
I like people.
I presume that they think kind of like I do.
I had to hire staff that would make sure they kept track of who I should hold a grudge against.
Because I always wanted to just plow forward and give them all the best benefit of the doubt.
But of course, in the long haul, you know how that is.
And that didn't work out the greatest, although it gave me some peace of mind while I was naive about how evil these people are.
They really are.
I like regular people.
I love everyone in the chat.
I love regular Americans.
I love ordinary people.
But I just can't stand these members of Congress.
They're all just such a letdown.
It really doesn't even matter Republican or Democrat.
But you must be happy.
You know, last time I saw you in person, I believe we were speaking at a conference together.
I think it was Ameren.
I think we were speaking at the American Renaissance Conference in Tennessee.
I think I saw you after that sometime, too, but we both spoke at AMRA and great conference, great event.
And I know that at that time we were talking about how speaker Kevin McCarthy was trying to be speaker of the house.
And I know that.
You know, you must be so thrilled to see Kevin McCarthy not only just be removed as Speaker, but also now announce his retirement from Congress.
It's too bad this couldn't have happened when you were there, because personally, I think that you were one of the best members of Congress that we had.
Certainly one of the most principled, and unfortunately, for those who don't know the story, Congressman Steve King did an interview with the New York Times, and of course, you know, he was thinking that they were just going to report accurately, and I guess that was his mistake.
But they twisted his words and made it sound like he was Supporting white supremacy.
That's not at all what he said.
And Rana Romney, who's a snake, who needs to resign.
I mean, we all are in agreement that Rana Romney, McDaniel, right?
Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy, the McPoliticians, as I like to call them.
They're very bad people.
And Rana Romney conspired with Kevin McCarthy and they came up with this conspiracy theory That Steve King was a white supremacist, even though he had been endorsed and supported by black lawmakers and black Iowans and had a Prolific career supporting all types of people and constituents of all backgrounds who were on the record saying that Steve King doesn't have a racist bone in his body.
And they were able to use this to weaponize the media and unfortunately all the GOP resources against him and launched a successful primary against him off of a smear campaign.
And so we would have Congressman Steve King fighting for us, fighting for an immigration moratorium, Fighting for the American people and America First policies if it was not for Kevin McCarthy and Rana Rani's treachery.
So I just want everybody to know that you're a great man.
You are not a white supremacist.
And with that, just tell everybody kind of how you're doing.
I see you have your book behind you as well.
You want to plug your book and let everybody know how they can read your story.
Well, I do.
And Laura, you've told part of the story here, and I appreciate that.
My book, "Walking Through the Fire: My Fight for the Heart and Soul of America," is what I had to write because when this all came down on me, it was planned, it was choreographed.
They had set this thing up.
I actually had been warned in advance that they would try this, and I took a couple of steps to preempt it.
And as soon as those folks that had plotted against me knew I knew what their game was, that's when they launched the attack before I could actually get my defense fully out there and deployed.
But, um, so once, once this happened and it was in January, 2019, then, then, uh, the, the entire media structure of what might even be in the world, a lot of it was published in Europe.
It was published in Australia and other places.
I know Canada.
So, but in the United States in particular, it all came down on me and it didn't matter what I said.
It didn't matter what the facts were.
They had their narrative and they stuck to it.
And so I knew even then, I told my staff, I said, I will, I will not resign.
They were, they thought they could force me to resign.
That's, you have to have some dirt on me before that.
They attacked me for defending Western civilization of all things.
And I said, white supremacists, white nationalists, but Western civilization, how did that become pejorative?
Why did I sit in classrooms all those years hearing about the merits of Western civilization just to have it become a pejorative term?
That is what I said.
And that's the tone and the timing that I set it in.
But of course, they decided they were going to attack me from that article.
I actually thought it would be for a different statement in there.
When the New York Times reporter asked me what I thought when I looked over at the at the Democrat conference and Democrat caucus, they call it.
And I said, well, I look over there and I see that it's no country for white men.
They are pushing white men out of their caucus and pro-life people out of their caucus.
And it's just a A collection of selected minorities to be seated in the Congress.
But if you look at the other side, well, it looks the opposite.
Now, in any case, they didn't use that quote.
Instead, they used this one of me defending Western civilization.
Launched it on me, and then I knew I had to write a book because the only way that I could get my word out was to write a book that they can't go in and cancel me if I've got a publisher.
They can't redact.
The book is the book.
And it's been out there now for a couple years.
Thousands of copies sold.
And there's not been one person raised the issue with a single fact in it.
It actually tells the story.
Well, white people are being replaced.
They are being replaced.
We are witnessing a great replacement.
It's not a conspiracy theory.
I mean, even Vivek Ramaswamy, who's brown and Hindu, he literally just said the other day at the fourth GOP presidential debate, And I emphasize the fact that he's brown and Hindu because they like to say, oh, Christian nationalism and these white men, right?
White Christian, white supremacists.
No, you have people running for president on the GOP ticket who are brown, who are Hindu, who are not Christian, who are doubling down on the fact that we are being replaced.
We are being replaced.
And there was a report that just came out that said that over 15% of the United States population right now is foreign born.
Far and born!
We are rapidly being replaced, and white people are rapidly going to become a minority in this country.
And some people will say, well, why are you so concerned about whether white people are a majority?
Well, every single country should be concerned about whether or not the majority population from when a country was founded continues to be that majority, right?
Because if you're concerned about preserving your culture and your heritage, right, you should be worried about things like that.
And it's not racist to talk about things like this because even our own government does.
I mean, isn't that the purpose of the United States Census?
And isn't the census hard scientific data that now shows us that, in fact, white people are being replaced, right?
Every 10 years we see the population of whites in this country decrease and the population of non-whites increase in this country.
And it's not just, you know, non-whites who are being born in this country, but it's people that are coming across our borders illegally.
And in fact, I'd say that the numbers are probably skewed and you'd agree with me because they say, oh, it's 11 million.
I mean, Congressman, how many years now have we been hearing this 11 million illegal alien number?
It's It's more like 55 to 60 million if I'm not mistaken.
I mean, perhaps you can back me up on this, but they seem to be stuck in some kind of like, you know, time warp because they can't seem to adjust their numbers even though the numbers show that it's rapidly increasing.
I don't know what you think about that, but it gives me...
three and they told us then that it was 11 million illegal aliens and I watched as the numbers of illegals coming into the country went up and up even under Bush we had a number that calculated out to be 4 million a year and that's by a testimony of the Border Patrol who said well we interdict about 25% of those that are trying they had interdicted a million and so it was 25% of those that try that means 4 million were trying to come into America oh
Okay, so only 3 million were left that got past the Border Patrol, but we brought another million in legally, so that's 4 million in a year.
That number of 11 million went to 12 million, and then it kind of went back to 11 million, and it sat there static for years, and we're watching 4, 5, 6, now what?
7, 8, 10 million people in a year pouring across our southern border illegally, and the numbers don't reflect how many that there actually are.
Absolutely.
For me, as I watch this, I will say this, listeners need to know this, that whenever you bring someone in from a foreign country, they are necessarily coming from a foreign culture.
Whatever their skin color is, they are still bringing their culture with them.
You import the culture with every individual, and when you bring them in, people gravitate towards like-kind.
And so, if you drop one person from a foreign culture into, let's just say, the Midwest, into my neighborhood, They will assimilate quickly and they'll be part of the families, literally, in a generation.
That's fine.
But you get another, another, another.
Pretty soon it's an enclave.
And then they reproduce the culture of the country they came from.
And America becomes a silo of ethnic groups, a cacophony of foreign languages and foreign cultures that are being told by the left, you don't want to become American in the culture.
You don't need to learn the language.
You don't need to assimilate.
Assimilation is a dirty word any place left of center today.
And just to continue in 2005, excuse me, 2015, when we had the Middle Eastern migrants pouring into Europe, you saw the videos of them on gravel roads.
They were shoulder-to-shoulder, horizon-to-horizon, pouring into Europe.
And I went over there, through multiple countries, Serbia and Croatia, and multiple countries, to walk among them, because I wanted to understand what was happening in world history.
And I talked to them, and I would ask them, where are you from?
I pretty soon learned, don't ask because they won't tell you.
And so, where are you going?
Germany.
We're in Germany.
I don't know.
What will you do there?
I don't know.
Do you have a job?
No.
Do you have a family?
No.
How will you live?
Germany will take care of me.
And so the culture of Europe has been transformed.
And that term, the Great Replacement, actually emerged from there about that period of time.
And I conceded that that was what's going on in Europe.
It is what's going on in America today.
The Southern Policy Law Center, the SPLC, has been working diligently to shift the ethnic balance and the race balance in the United States.
We had some people go in there a few years ago and take some pictures of the legal pads on the bulletin board, how they were calculating how they were going to get America to become a white minority country.
That plot is out there.
They're trying to replace us and they say there's something racist about saying so.
Well, there's a lot of problems going on, and that's why right now we're trying to see who's going to lead us, right, through this crisis and lead our country back to a place of greatness.
And you and I obviously are of a sane mentality, and so we recognize that Donald J. Trump is the only option, right, to save America right now.
And we have the Iowa caucus coming up in less than a month, and a lot's going on in Iowa right now.
You have your governor over there, Kim Reynolds, who's endorsed Ron DeSantis, and you have the governor sanctioning satanic displays in the state capitol.
And you have all these Iowa lawmakers who have decided, I guess, to side with Kim Reynolds and against Donald Trump and for DeSantis.
And you wanted to break some news on my show tonight because you got word today of something that is happening.
It's very sinister and it's playing into the 2024 presidential election in Iowa because the people who are supporting this all happen to be anti-Trump and Pro Kim Reynolds and Pro Ron DeSantis.
And so I wanted to give you this opportunity to come on my show, Congressman, because Donald Trump is about to be in Iowa tomorrow where he's speaking for a Commit to Caucus event.
So if you're watching this, please retweet it and share it and repost the Rumble link because Congressman Steve King is about to break some really explosive news out of Iowa that you all need to know.
So, Congressman, go ahead and share with the audience the disturbing details about what's been going on in Iowa.
Well, thanks, Laura.
And I've been on this for months now, but Joe Biden signed a bill that was called the Inflation Reduction Act a year ago, August.
It put hundreds of billions of dollars out here as bait for the greedy to sequester CO2 and pump it down into the ground.
Two huge entities launched themselves into Iowa because the ethanol plants that we have here emit the highest, the highest, the largest volume of the highest quality CO2 known anywhere in the world.
That's a low-hanging fruit.
They want to grab that, pump it down into the ground near the oil fields in North Dakota and in southern Illinois.
That was all launched and so when I look at this, they want to trample on our property rights and they want eminent domain to bulldoze their way through thousands of miles, 3,300 miles altogether of the best farmland in the world to put the CO2 pipeline in It's stupid from a lot of ways.
It's stupid by science.
It's stupid economically.
But when it runs all over our property rights, our constitutionally protected property rights, then it's time to take the gloves off and go to battle.
I've been doing that for a long time now.
And so what's happening here?
So these lawmakers who are trying to violate the private property rights of of Iowans, especially Iowa farmers, they all seem to have one thing in common.
And that's the fact that they're anti-Trump, these people, and they seem to be supporting Ron DeSantis.
And so it's verification of President Trump's claims that not only did Ron DeSantis have an anti-farmer platform when he was a member of Congress.
Right.
But but.
But also now, the lawmakers in Iowa who are trying to prevent Donald Trump from getting back into the White House are literally trying to confiscate the property of Iowa farmers.
And they've all endorsed Ron DeSantis.
Laura, that's right.
And by the way, these were all the same people that were stabbing me in the back back in 2019 and 2020.
Calling you a white supremacist, yeah.
That's terrible.
It's so bad.
It is.
And so we have Governor Reynolds and our state party chairman, Jeff Kaufman, and I'll say the leadership in the Iowa House and in the Iowa Senate.
They and others at the top of this hierarchy are all tied together.
They're all came in behind Ron DeSantis.
And it's all about protecting this CO2 pipeline and this carbon credit that's here.
The billions and billions of dollars of carbon credit.
We've got a lead guy in Iowa named Bruce Rastetter, who set up this company called Summit.
And it's been there a while, but he's the guy reaching into this and he's poured Millions of dollars into the campaigns of the governors of North and South Dakota and Nebraska and Iowa, into legislative leadership in each of those places.
Now DeSantis is in that, endorsed by all those people that have been funded by Bruce Rastetter.
You might call him the Republican George Soros of the Upper Midwest.
And they're all locked in this thing together.
What Donald Trump needs to do is just come out and say, I will defend the property rights of the people in the Midwest, and I will not allow the best farmland in the world to be bulldozed by eminent domain.
If he does that, he bounces Randy Santus right off of that debate stage, wounds him on the way to New Hampshire, and he probably doesn't even make it back to Florida.
That's the message that Donald Trump needs to hear.
Have you tried speaking to President Trump about this?
Because I know that President Trump really likes you.
I mean, we saw that he was a big supporter of yours and you were one of the first, I believe.
Weren't you the first member of Congress to actually endorse him when he first ran?
No, I don't know that I was first, but I was one of those people that was enthusiastic.
You were one of the first.
You might call me among the most enthusiastic.
I'm not sure who that is.
You were one of the first, because he often praised you when you were a member of Congress as being one of the first and brave enough to come out and support him.
And so, you know, I know that President Trump values loyalty, and I know that you are a loyal person.
You have never betrayed President Trump.
And he's going to be in Iowa tomorrow.
I don't know.
Perhaps you can go see him.
Are you going to go to his Commit to Caucus event tomorrow in Iowa?
I'm on the opposite side of the state.
It makes it pretty hard, Laura.
But here's what it is.
His campaign machinery has locked me out.
They've screened me out.
And this message has to get through to him.
And it needs to get through to him quickly.
Because I have to defend property rights.
I've taken an oath to this Constitution.
Absolutely.
A presidential candidate that will come out and say, this is a boondoggle, this CO2 sequestration, hundreds of billions of dollars boondoggle, and we need to shut this down now, and Governor Reynolds needs to shut it down, and DeSantis needs to denounce it, and all the people in that constellation that are on the DeSantis side of this need to be exposed because they're tied into it.
This is corruption.
We also need to get to the bottom, though.
I completely agree with you, Congressman.
But we also need to get to the bottom of that.
That's alarming to me that you just said that somebody in his campaign is icing you out.
Who in the Trump campaign is preventing you, do you think, from your experience of getting to President Trump?
Because this is concerning.
I mean, obviously, you're a Trump ally, and we know that President Trump likes you.
We know that President Trump is an ally to the farmers of Iowa, and the farmers love him, and that he protects property rights.
And this is a very important issue.
So who's blocking you?
I think that people deserve to know that.
Let me say this.
I've just got texts into the inner sanctum of the Trump campaign.
And some of those people were barriers four years ago.
And so I left them alone for a little bit.
Now I'm pushing back into them again.
So without saying names, I'd like to say on your program, answer my texts, answer my phone calls, come back to me on this.
Don't ghost me.
This is a thing that helps Donald Trump more than any other.
And I don't want to impugn anybody in the campaign right now, but I'm going to defend this constitution with everything I have.
And Donald Trump needs to do it, can do it.
And it's a very smart political move on his part as well.
Absolutely.
No, and I hope that people will get back to you before you have to start naming some names because we gotta make sure that President Trump is surrounded by loyal people and that President Trump is surrounded by people that get him messages from his allies and his loyalists and I know that there's a lot of really great people on the Trump campaign and I'm sure that, you know, I know that a lot of them watch my show and I hope that
This information can be relayed because it is very important and that is very concerning that there's this coalition of pro-DeSantis anti-Trump lawmakers that are pushing to strip farmers of their property rights and so I know that I'm confident that your message is going to get to President Trump and I know that he watches my show as well so hopefully President Trump if you're watching if you're watching
I think that Congressman Steve King has a brilliant idea, and this is something that Iowans, and especially the farmers, are going to love to hear at your Commit to Caucus events, especially since the President's going to be there tomorrow.
I just added this, that I don't know how much people are aware of Florida about what's coming on with NextEra and their effort to build huge solar farms in Florida.
NextEra having one plan.
There are several I understand that has 1,200 square miles of solar panels put over some of the best Florida farmland that exists, and that they are a major donor of the DeSantis campaign.
I've got more details here and lots and lots of pages to look through.
But that's something also that I think people in Florida need to know.
And be glad if they know it here in Iowa now, but by the time this campaign gets to Florida, it's important that they do know.
Absolutely, Congressman.
And what can people do?
What can people do?
Aside from, obviously, we need to get this message to President Trump, but people watching who may live in Iowa, what can they do about this?
Because, obviously, a lot of people are going to be affected by this.
Well, I'd say first that I suspect that President Trump has been shielded from this.
I think there's been a calculation made of the campaign team That they just don't want to answer the question, don't want to deal with it.
But this is a winner.
This is a home run ball served out over the plate.
And so what people can do is go to every event, go to the DeSantis events, go to the Nikki Haley events, go to the Trump events and ask him, what's your position on this CO2 pipeline?
Will you come out and defend our property rights?
And will you tell the state of Iowa not to violate the constitutional property rights of the people?
And that you will shut that down as president.
So don't bother even going down that road.
That needs to happen.
And especially President Trump does need to hear this publicly.
But DeSantis won't have an answer.
Nikki Haley won't have an answer.
Especially DeSantis won't have an answer.
And they need to be pressed on this.
This is a 78% issue here in Iowa that oppose eminent domain for private gain.
And that's a poll that's been out now a few months.
It's actually one of those reliable polls.
78% of the people across all demographics say no eminent domain for private gain for CO2 pipelines.
And that leaves 15% that are for it.
They're the ones that are probably looking to make a little money off of it.
So that's that's go to those go to the caucus.
You get to meet these candidates face to face.
And I will say there are two candidates that have stood up for this.
One of them is Ryan Binkley.
He's very low in the polls, but he's exactly right on this constitutionally.
And then you mentioned also Vivek Ramaswamy, and he is exactly right on this, and he's vocal on that, and he's driving this.
So it's helpful to President Trump.
If President Trump steps in, he and Vivek can hammer this thing.
And I think that shuts down those other two folks that are near the top of the polls.
Absolutely.
I agree with you, and I know that President Trump cares a lot about the people of Iowa, and he cares a lot about property rights, and he cares a lot about the farmers, and he's always talking about it, right?
He's talking about how he protected these people from the CCP, and I'm sure that he would love to protect them from BlackRock as well.
and imminent domain policies from the Biden regime.
So I'm confident.
I mean, President Trump just has to hear this message, but I think he will.
I'm confident about that. - Laura, you mentioned that.
This whole thing, this carbon capture and sequestration plan, this international carbon credit thing that is more or less a punishment to the rest of the world, We're subsidizing in this part of the world.
This entire thing was cooked up really in Geneva, transferred over to Davos to be rolled out to the world in coordination with China and Larry Fink and BlackRock's investment in China.
And they drove this all across Europe.
And I was part of that debate, pushing back against it those years, going back more than 20 years ago.
And I debated Angela Merkel on this face-to-face at least once, but other places across Europe.
They sold it to Europe, and then they sold it to the Democratic Party, kind of about the same time.
Ed Markey was on the floor of the House in 2003 when I arrived making this argument.
But once they got it all set up, then there was the, I'll say the blue flag, the Democrat flag that came all out of Davos and globally and all the Democrats in America, triggered by George Soros.
They were going to run this thing and they got that done with the Inflation Reduction Act.
But Larry Fink couldn't get through the property rights, the constitutional protections in the Upper Midwest because these states had populist Republican governors.
So they had to have a Republican George Soros in the form of Bruce Rastetter to drive this thing.
And he is pushing it hard.
I would say another name that's part of this, too, is Paul Singer.
Paul Singer is one of the most notorious vulture capitalists in the country.
He is a major donor to Kevin McCarthy, for example, and he has spread a lot of money into the Iowa congressional delegation and other places.
So I believe he is a major investor in this, and it just sucks the lifeblood out of us.
Hundreds of millions of dollars, all sunk money, pumped into the ground.
No possible way to ever measure a return on the investment.
This is a religion or a cult, as Vivek says.
It's surely not science, and there's no way to measure a result.
So I am going to fight this to the end.
I took an oath to the Constitution, and I don't get a pass just because I'm not in office anymore.
That was for life.
We wish you were!
We wish you were.
Wish you were back in office.
Congressman, what is the mood and what is the sentiment on the ground in Iowa?
Because, you know, the DeSantis team wants to say, oh, well, three-time failed Bob Vander Plaats, right, candidate for governor, his endorsement's going to send Ron DeSantis as the winner.
It's going to send him over the edge.
And, oh, Kim Reynolds, of course, that's going to make Ron DeSantis win.
You live in Iowa.
You talk to people.
You're connected.
You're a grassroots guy.
Like, you really are a grassroots I don't even want to say politician, because you're a normal person, right?
You're not like these other politicians, but you really are grassroots.
And you were in Congress.
So what are people telling you?
And just so that our viewers tonight can have a dose of reality about what's actually happening in Iowa, because Team DeSantis wants people to think that Trump is going to lose in a landslide in Iowa.
Well, that's not going to happen.
Trump's going to win Iowa.
And just wherever I go, especially out here in Western Iowa, where I'm talking to people a little more in the area where I live.
They're just confident and comfortable.
They don't seem to be particularly animated over it.
It's just that the central sentiment is this, that Trump got the rawest of raw deals.
And the weekend after he was elected president in November 2016, all the hierarchy of the Democrats, including George Soros, met at the Occidental Mandarin Hotel in Washington, D.C.
They were going to plan how they were going to exploit the Hillary presidency.
They changed their agenda, how they were going to destroy the Trump presidency.
And they set about doing that.
And I believe in that meeting, they determined they were going to impeach Donald Trump.
They had the Russia, Russia hoax already set there, flipped the script on that.
And they set up protests in the major cities in America each weekend, all the way up to the inauguration, where a million crazy women and those Pink hats came pouring into Washington, D.C.
They obstructed everything, and he did everything he could to bring about all his promises, and he accomplished a tremendous amount.
But boy, did he get the dirty end of the stick when it came to prosecution and political persecution and lawfare.
And when they crossed the line, it was August 8th of last year at Mar-a-Lago, when they went in and raided Mar-a-Lago and spread those pieces of paper out on the floor and made it look like they had really caught something in there.
That was what, for me, it was.
That's it.
We have to defend this man.
And if we don't, then this is the playbook we'll be faced with as we go into the third world country dictatorship that's being formed right now.
This might be our last chance.
This might be our last election.
I agree.
And, you know, it's interesting that you brought that up because Ron DeSantis, a hundred percent, and you and I were talking about this because I remember you called me and I called, we, we called each other actually, because we're friends.
You're my buddy.
I tell people all the time.
Steve King is my friend.
I love him.
You were one of the few people to support me when I ran, and you saw how Kevin McCarthy worked against me really aggressively in a very underhanded way when I ran for Congress.
But now he's got a taste of his own medicine, and I'm going to ask you before we leave tonight to If you have any post-Congress job advice for Kevin McCarthy.
I don't know if you've thought of some new careers for him, but I'm sure you have a few ideas, knowing you.
But Ron DeSantis had advanced knowledge, and you know this, I know this, of the raid on Mar-a-Lago, and nobody wants to talk about that.
And so the fact that he would allow for this to happen when He was governor.
Really just speaks volumes to me.
Because if you're going to allow for that to take place, you're gonna allow for the President of the United States to have his personal residence raided, and you're gonna have advanced knowledge about it and not do anything about it, and then you're gonna sit there for 12 hours and not issue a statement about it like Ron DeSantis did?
That's so disqualifying.
And when I ran for Congress, I remember my campaign staff were begging me.
They were begging me over dinner one night, Laura, please, Laura, please, Laura, please just keep your mouth shut.
Because I just wanted to go nuclear on Ron DeSantis on the campaign trail.
And of course he was on the ballot at that time for reelection as governor.
And I'm like, this guy is one disloyal SOB, and I was just about to just give it to him, honestly.
And they said, you've worked so hard, you're about to blow up your whole campaign, people are gonna think it's too radical of a statement.
But now everybody sees it.
Now everybody really sees how disloyal and how treacherous Ron DeSantis is, and how he really is such a tool of the deep state.
So, do people talk about this in Iowa?
I just kind of want to know, like, what do people in Iowa actually think about Ron DeSantis?
Yeah, I don't know that they are aware of the things that you've just said in that way.
And they're starting to become aware of this.
And one of the things is that how he is entrenched in with the, I'll say, the large utility conglomerates like NextEra.
That is emerging.
And I happen to have a lot of documents on there to back that up.
And I'm in the process of rolling some of that out.
I think you need to know that there's a certain parallel, complete parallel between what's going on here with CO2 pipelines, and also that The solar panels that they're putting up in Florida, both of those require a lot of campaign donations to get them off the ground.
And $25 million is a number that went into my ear next year at a DeSantis, and that may not be all of it.
Uh, so what do they think?
Um, I guess, I think that they watch the debates and they try to determine from the debates and not, I've not heard much excitement about DeSantis events out here.
I know some people go to it.
I've been to one.
Um, but that's another one of those cases where I served with DeSantis in Congress.
I didn't have a personal disagreement with him.
And, um, and I know that he was always calculating to run for governor.
And so, you know, he got elected governor and it seemed like his first opponent got a lot more votes than he should have.
Well, I'm sure you probably had disagreements with him.
I mean, I doubt that you were a fan of statehood for Puerto Rico, right?
Oh, that's for sure.
I know that you don't support statehood for Puerto Rico, so you and DeSantis did have disagreements.
I'm sure that you weren't a fan of arming the Ukrainians and making Ukraine a member of NATO.
I don't know.
I'm sure you had a lot of disagreements with him now that we're starting to really see his voting record, and you're absolutely right.
You know, a lot of people don't know this, Congressman, but BlackRock was one of the main donors for Ron DeSantis' inauguration committee when he had his inauguration here.
Disney as well.
You know, the guy likes to claim that he's anti-Disney.
But people need to know that Ron DeSantis has taken a lot of money from BlackRock, and BlackRock has been very invested in their gubernatorial relationship with Ron DeSantis.
And people can go and look at this.
It's been sourced.
BlackRock, Disney, a lot of these companies, the insurance companies, the Florida Power Light, all the utility companies gave enormous amounts of campaign donations and donations to the inaugural committee to support Ron DeSantis, and so he's not a friend of property owners.
He's not a friend to homeowners.
He's certainly not a friend to landowners.
He likes to pretend like he banned the CCP from buying land in Florida.
No, there's a caveat.
That was land very close to military bases, yet people don't look at the details, right?
And they say, oh, look, Ron DeSantis banned land ownership in Florida for the CCP.
No, It was land next to military bases.
There's a really big difference between land next to military bases and just land in general.
And that's why the CCP is now, along with Bill Gates, some of the largest owner of American farmland in the United States of America.
Thanks to people like Ron DeSantis.
We passed a law in Iowa in 1980 that banned foreign ownership of farmland.
And I've gone up and built terraces and done waterways for one section of ground north of me that belongs to a family in Germany.
They actually farm there.
They live in a castle and roll their equipment out of a castle to farm.
It's a Von Twickel family, but they were one of the last ones to own any land of foreign interest in Iowa in 1980.
We got that right, and we didn't leave exceptions and caveats in there like that.
But I'll say this, if you are so deeply entrenched with BlackRock, and deeply entrenched with NextEra, and the money's pouring in by the tens of millions and more from those entities out there, you really become, have become or will become, a tool of the World Economic Forum.
And the World Economic Forum is the number one existential threat to the United States of America.
Not China, not Russia, the World Economic Forum.
Because they've set up a hierarchy to have a global reach.
To command and govern us all and control the economy, control our society, and they've used the tools of the World Health Organization, the United Nations, right alongside with the World Economic Forum.
Even the Republican Party!
Kevin McCarthy, when he was the Speaker of the House, he was a member of the World Economic Forum.
I showed you this as well, because we were talking about this when we were hanging out at AmRen.
He's a member of the World Economic Forum.
People like Elise Stefanik!
You know, I know everyone's celebrating her this week.
I'll give her credit.
She did a really great job grilling those anti-Semitic presidents of the American universities this last week.
But yeah, even Elise Stefanik is a member of the World Economic Forum.
You have members of Congress.
I believe Dan Crenshaw is a member of the World Economic Forum.
There's a lot of members of Congress, including the former Speaker of the House, who are members of the WEF.
You can't exactly say that it's a benefit when Republicans have control of the House if Republican leadership is being compromised by Klaus Schwab.
Well, and then let's say this on Donald Trump's behalf.
He has spoken to the World Economic Forum two years apart, twice.
And I just read his second speech today because he'd been criticized for speaking to the WEF.
And that speech was something that you'd have been proud to deliver.
It was characterized by others back in that time as he went to the World Economic Forum and stuck a MAGA finger into the eyes of Klaus Schwab and George Soros and others.
In that is a very solid theme that says that there's Essentially a belief, a hoax, that they are manipulating the climate and using that against us all.
We're not going to buy that, he said.
We're going to be an independent people and we're going to be strong.
We're going to grow our industry.
It was all the things they didn't want to hear, but it was really concise in one paragraph, which I wish I could quote back to you precisely.
So if anybody says that Trump is somehow connected with the World Economic Forum, well, I guess he went there.
That's not necessarily a connection.
But instead, I'd say this.
He is the number one enemy to the World Economic Forum in the world and the number one threat to them and the greatest defense that we can have for our United States of America and Western civilization writ large.
The number two threat to the World Economic Forum, in my opinion, is Bobby Kennedy Jr.
And the number three threat would be Vivek Ramaswamy.
All of them are voicing their objections and have a strategy.
They want to shut this thing down and turn it back to a free world again.
I agree, and I also want to get your take on what happened today.
You had Zelensky basically shutting down Washington, D.C.
The entire capital was on lockdown today.
barricades closed off to the American people because, oh, Zelensky came to town to panhandle for some more money, of course, and then he went to the White House and basically threatening the American people.
Oh, you know, you guys are going to have to spill American blood and fight the Russians if we don't get more money.
So what is your thought about what happened in Washington, D.C. today and Zelensky basically like strong arming now and threatening the United States government and the American people?
We did a report on this today and we had our correspondent, Charles Downs there today to capture footage of Zelensky and his motorcade going into the White And you see Joe Biden sitting there with Zelensky and handing over hundreds of millions more dollars.
What is your take on this?
Well, I say, Laura, I miss it all.
I was busy with my head down all day under fire with information coming in and firing it back out again.
But as you described it, It's it sounds a bit like a circus.
And I reflect that on all that security to shut down the entire city for a foreign leader to come in.
I would point out that I mentioned Bobby Kennedy Jr.
's name, and he's out running for president.
He's got every right to do that.
He's now as an independent.
He's decided to leave the Democratic Party and run as an independent.
His father and his uncle were both assassinated as political people operating or running for office either way.
And here he is without security, but Zelensky has got armies protecting him and a huge shield around him.
That says something about our country and about our leadership and how bad it is that Joe Biden would leave that vulnerability for Bobby Kennedy, but he wouldn't take one single risk with Zelensky.
Don't you think, though, that Bobby Kennedy should... I mean, look, the Democrats have already canceled their primary, right?
They've made it very clear that they're not going to be supporting other candidates being on the ballot in certain states, which is why Kennedy is now running as an independent, of course.
But don't you think that You know, for somebody like Kennedy, obviously he's not, he doesn't support President Trump, but I just think that this election is so important, right?
And so I personally, I take offense to RFK running against Donald Trump.
I do.
Because while he may take votes away from Joe Biden, right, if he's running as an independent, it's not like he's going to be the Democrat nominee, because the Democrats have already made it very clear that they're not going to have You know, a full-fledged primary.
So, don't you think that this, or in your opinion, do you think it threatens President Trump's chances of re-election, like a split vote?
Especially in such a, you know, contentious election, and we know that there's voter fraud, we know that there's big tech election interference.
What are your thoughts on his candidacy?
Because you may like him and you may appreciate the fact that he's speaking out about some issues that are important, but don't you think that, don't you think that he should step aside for President Trump?
You know, if he were Republican, I'd be saying that to him.
But he comes from an entirely different camp, and I don't see that he's supportive of President Trump.
But on the other hand, you see the polls that say that the votes that he would draw come more from President Trump than they do come from Biden.
I'm not convinced that that's true.
There's so much over on the other side, soft votes on the other side, I think that he could draw from.
But he's injecting into this an argument.
He sees the corporate corruption that's taking place.
He sees the vertical integration of industry and business and the globalization of it and how it suppresses our freedom.
So I'm glad to have that part of his voice matched up with President Trump's voice and with Ramaswamy's voice, because it starts to inform the American people.
And I'm afraid that we're on the precipice of losing our republic.
And we don't know also how we win an election if they decide to steal this one the same way they stole the previous election in 2020.
It's going to be really, really tough for President Trump or anybody to win this.
So maybe there's a little more honesty that comes in here with Bobby Kennedy Jr., but I'll just say this, that I'm glad his voice is in this.
I hope that it doesn't jeopardize electing President Trump.
But he's got every right to do so.
It's the American way.
He has every right to do so, but he's not going to win.
And just because you have a right to do so doesn't mean that you get to entertain your delusions of grandeur at the expense of the American people and Western civilization.
And that's my biggest issue with it, is that, you know, he can talk about these issues and he doesn't have to like Donald Trump.
But at the end of the day, he could say, you know what, I don't, he could say, you know, I don't want to like him.
But my philosophy aligns more with his and and the fate of civilization and combating the deep state is more aligned with Donald Trump than it is with Joe Biden.
I just think that it's very selfish right now at this time where we are facing An existential crisis.
A constitutional crisis in this country.
And I think it's selfish.
I think it's selfish for all these other Republican candidates to stay in the race.
And I think it's selfish for candidates to run as third party.
I truly do.
I agree with a lot of what RFK says on certain issues.
I don't like his Trump bashing.
I don't like a lot of his social views.
But when it comes to the deep state, obviously I agree with his philosophy.
But he's not going to win.
I mean, surely he knows that he's not going to win.
And so at this point in time, his actions, in my opinion, only serve to try to sabotage President Trump, especially now that he's starting to be more vocal against him.
I haven't been listening to the Trump bashing, but I will say this for Bobby Kennedy Jr.
He is defending our constitutional property rights here in the Midwest, and he's doing it aggressively and effectively.
And I hope President Trump steps up and hears this message and does so.
Because he can end this caucus business here in Iowa and walk away and go to New Hampshire and leave those guys in his jet stream on his way down south to South Carolina.
Then what is it?
Nevada?
Then Florida?
Is that the ratio?
And there won't be even a race in Florida if he comes out to defend our property rights here.
Well, I'm happy to hear that.
Bobby Kennedy is fighting for property rights and I'm sure that we'll get this message to President Trump as well because I know that President Trump supports property rights and I know that he supports the people of Iowa and the farmers as well and it's just a matter of getting the information to him as you said and so I'm happy to You know, like I said, he watches the show.
I know that he's, uh, he shared my show links before.
So hopefully, hopefully he sees this and is able to get the message before he heads out to Iowa tomorrow, where he's going to be at the Commit to Caucus event.
Uh, any last comments, any last thoughts, Congressman, anything you want to promote, anything you want to plug before, um, before I let you go tonight?
Well, a couple of things.
Uh, you gave me an opportunity to plug my book and I passed it up.
Uh, I regret that, but my book is, um, Walking Through the Fire, My Fight for the Heart and Soul of America.
And if you just go to, I mean, Amazon has it and all those book outlets, but if you just go to Stephen King.
It's right behind you.
It looks great.
Right, really behind you.
You can pick up a copy and show it.
You can pick up the copy and you can show it if you want right behind you.
It's a great book.
I've read it.
I love it.
Great book.
I have a signed copy.
Yes, you do.
This actually is an autographed copy for a person who ordered one here just a bit ago.
I spent about two years putting this all together.
It's completely factual, and no one has challenged a single word in this book that tells the narrative of I'll say the political lynching of Steve King, motivated by, I now learn, the people that want to put the CO2 pipeline through the upper Midwest.
They knew that they couldn't get that done if Steve King is a seated member of Congress.
I would be having town hall meetings in every county seat.
I'd be calling in experts from the country and the world.
We'd be lambasting them at every stop of the way.
They had to get me out.
And that was the biggest reason why they did that, Laura.
I didn't know that six months ago.
I didn't know it the last time we talked in person.
And after I stepped in to defend property rights, I started to see all the patterns that are there.
The people that are supporting DeSantis are the ones that politically lynched me.
And that includes the governor and the state party chairman, Jeff Kaufman, and former governor Terry Branstad, and Terry Branstad's political campaign, and the leadership of the Iowa House and the Iowa Senate, to a degree, not all of them.
Some of that's in this book, not all of it.
I might write a sequel, there'll be a lot more in it.
SteveKing.com, if you go there to SteveKing.com, then you get the book ordered from me, and I autograph it personally to you, ship it out of here.
So I get to put my hand on it with, just like I did yours, off to people.
Then maybe even a closing piece, something I would like to add to this is that there's that tape out there that I think I'd heard it before, but it was brought back to my memory of Kevin McCarthy.
He is doing an interview, and I'm not sure who the people were, but sitting on a chair up on a stage with somebody interviewing him, and he made this comment.
He said, if you look over at the Democrats in the House, they are a conference that looks like America.
And when you look at the Republicans, we look like an elite country club.
And he said, I didn't want to be the leader of a declining party.
So I set about, he said, the race is not in the general election, it's in the primaries.
So I set about entering into primaries, selecting minorities and women to get them to win the primaries so that we could win seats in Congress to change the look of the Republican conference in the United States House of Representatives.
And I knew that, Laura, and it's breathtaking that he would say that and make that confession.
That's only half the confession.
The other confession is he was recruiting rhinos, not just minority rhinos to change the complexion.
Not just the melanin content, but to change the political convictions in the conference because the rhinos would vote for McCarthy.
And if he let the primary process sort itself out, conservatives would come up and be in Congress and they would have chosen somebody else in January.
And so now we've got a Republican conference that's to the left of America, thanks to Kevin McCarthy, who was on his way out.
What should he do now?
Boy, I don't know.
Didn't he have a deli shop in California?
That's his small business expertise.
Go back to making sandwiches, Kevin.
Making sandwiches or flipping burgers, right?
I don't know.
One of the two, I don't know.
He's probably going to get some board position, though.
I mean, I'm sure that one of his little cushy donors will set him up, or maybe he'll go into business with his buddy Jeff Miller, you know?
Who knows?
Well, yeah, those two.
And this is what hit me when it washed over.
And, of course, that really intense debate over the 15 votes to get him elected Speaker.
I'm getting, I'm texting back and forth and talking into the cluster of conservative House Republicans during that period of time.
They were using my name in the debate with McCarthy to try to get what they wanted.
I was glad about that.
But when it came time that Matt Gaetz went to the floor and brought the motion to vacate the chair.
And the seven of them stood with them.
They are all heroes, Laura.
They're all heroes, and they've been vilified, but they cleaned up a lot of the corruption in the House of Representatives.
And when you've got somebody that's making deals like that, that's got a couple hundred million dollars to work with, and he's going out, I know in Texas, he went against an Hispanic fella, his name is Roland Lopez, a solid, principled, Christian, conservative guy, the kind of person we need that's a constitutionalist and a patriot, and he found himself A black, or should I say black veteran, and he put a million dollars in his account and said, stay home.
Don't go out and debate.
Don't let anybody challenge you.
We're going to get you elected.
And so that's a vote for McCarthy.
And that's not necessarily the best person to represent that district in Houston.
That's one of the examples that I know of on what McCarthy was doing, but it multiplies itself over and over again.
I would say that Mike Johnson is going to stay out of primaries.
That should be true for the Republican conference, should be true for Ronna McDaniel, who cheered when I lost my primary and sent out a snarky tweet.
She didn't have enough class to at least shut up.
She just, she had to do that too.
Of course, my staff put together a poster of these little snapshots of all the people in the Republican hierarchy that attacked me during that period of time.
And a link to each one of the statements that they made.
And it's pretty good.
It's maybe two dozens or so.
I've got the picture on my computer yet today.
And if I look through that now, Karma has hit over half of them.
And Karma hit McCarthy and Schadenfreude washed over me.
Yeah, I love it.
I love it.
I think it's, uh, it's, uh, it's vindication season, you know, and it's retribution season.
And it's also accountability season, and I just love it.
I love watching all of the bad actors get what was coming to them.
And I really, I thought of you the day that McCarthy was removed, and I texted you, I remember calling you, and I said, Woo!
We're gonna party!
We're gonna have a party, Congressman!
I want to turn the background music to Another One Bites the Dust by Queen.
Yes, so I remember that, and it was a good day.
I remember calling you, and that was a really good day when Kevin McCarthy was removed.
And I guess now he's out, right?
Now he's out.
But it's just a shame, right?
It's a shame when you look at all the really good people that had to suffer, right?
Had to suffer and be victimized and attacked.
People like you who didn't deserve it.
I'm sure you're enjoying life now, right?
With your kids and your grandkids and life back in Iowa.
So you're probably better off.
You don't want your name attached to this crap shoot anyway in Congress right now because it's pretty bad.
And the Republicans, even though they have control of the House in true Republican fashion, they are losing, right?
Because that's all the Republican Party seems to know how to do these days.
Congressman King is loose.
I think you're better off that you're not in Congress right now honestly and I think about this now too because I should be in Congress but I'm really happy that my name is not attached to this because it's going to be written about in the history books and I don't want my name attached to this dumpster fire.
You might have another shot at that yet.
I wouldn't write that off for life, Laura, because you would rock that place.
And that's one of the reasons why Kevin McCarthy feared you more than any other candidate in the United States.
There was no Democrat that came close to the fear he had for Laura Loomer.
But I think that you would shake the place up.
And for me, I've never been worried about freedom of speech.
I didn't think we should kick George Santos out.
He was indicted, not convicted.
Let the voters decide.
Now they don't have a vote out of that congressional district.
In New York, I don't approve of anything he's alleged to have done, but I do believe in freedom of speech at least, and not so much with Santos and his speech, but when you look at Marjorie Taylor Greene, and they knocked her off of her committees because of freedom of speech, and they went after Lauren Boebert the same way, and let's see, who'd they censure here the other day?
The Republican, not that long ago?
Was that Gosar?
Yes, our good friend, Congressman Gosar.
Yeah, and so there's an epidemic of the attempted cancellation of members of Congress that isn't held up in historical tradition in the House of Representatives.
And so for me, I always thought I was immune to that.
I have told people, I made this argument in Europe to some of the top people over there.
I said, this is maybe not quite 10 years ago, Um, you need constitutional freedom of speech protection like we have in the United States.
And I say to them clearly, you say what you believe to be true.
You don't even have to believe it to be true.
You have a right to freedom of speech.
It's constitutionally protected.
And they said, We have more freedom in speech in here than you have.
And I said, you're convicting people of violations of freedom of speech.
Geert Wilders, who's hopefully the incoming Prime Minister of the Netherlands today.
Yeah, I was just about to say, one of those people that you spoke with, I know, because obviously I followed you as a college student and as a young conservative as well.
One of those people that you had the pleasure of speaking with was our friend Geert Wilders, who was just elected.
So, you know, It goes to show you just how things have radically changed over these last 10 years and I remember meeting Geert Wilders as a college student 10 years ago in Florida and I literally was like walking the beach with this guy.
It was the most surreal experience ever because anyone who knows him knows he travels with a band of literal... I'm not exaggerating.
The guy has 20 bodyguards, okay?
He has bodyguards in the ocean on boats because his life is so endangered by Islamists who have a fatwa on him.
That he has about 10 people that stand next to him, there's undercover people, and anytime there's, like, an ocean nearby, he has his own boat standing by to make sure nobody's gonna come in through the ocean to attack him.
So, I remember just kind of, like, pushing my way through the beach to go have a conversation with this guy, and we were chatting and walking on the beach, having a nice little stroll, chatting.
So, I'll never forget that.
He had to love that.
He had to love it.
He found me to be charming.
Yes.
That's what he told me.
It has been now 20 years since he's had freedom, that he's been surrounded by that security detail, and I sponsored him to help him come to the United States, and we did four events for him in the U.S., and one of them was he was my guest speaker at the State of the Union Address.
Well, they wouldn't let his bodyguards come into the Capitol with any weapons, and so he got into the Capitol building, actually I think without bodyguards, At least next to him.
And when the speech was over, he came down out of the upper gallery and began to wander around, and he found himself over on the Senate section of the Capitol building, just chatting with people.
We had leaders down there, senators flowing back and forth, and House members.
And he said that's the first time since that fatwa had been put on him that he'd actually had any freedom to live under that.
It's like living in a prison.
But still he goes out and his party now that has won a plurality of the seats in the Netherlands, and he's in the completely the best position to put together a government that has a coalition that can govern.
And he has said that the Islamic influence in the Netherlands that needs to be shrunk down, is that kind of immigration is changing the culture.
He wants to put Western civilization back.
He says, "Plainly and clearly, "Western civilization is a superior civilization." And I agree with him completely.
I spent some time with him over there and visited with him in the Netherlands twice.
Once they came and picked me up in a car.
I didn't know where I was going.
And put me in another car and got me down an alley.
And he and I were in that car together.
We jumped out and in the door of the building quickly.
And the guards have the alley covered.
They have the building covered.
And we went in and had a dinner.
And the dinner was there with the leaders of the Alternative for Deutschland, the conservative German party, let's see, Frau Capetri.
And so, across Europe, you have leaders of patriotic parties, we would call them conservatives, that want to restore the culture of their civilization, want to hold on to their language, but still coordinated English, and they want to restore their national pride, And restore the traditions that they are.
That's Western Civilization.
And I encourage that highly.
And by the way, Gordon Peterson did an event about a month ago in London.
It had 1,500 people there, 92 speakers.
It was all about restoring Western Civilization.
This is coming back to us.
It's a thing I've worked on for not quite 20 years now, trying to build an international organization for Western Civilization.
It's happening.
It's growing.
It's growing, not necessarily spontaneously, but you can feel the need for it.
And I'm hopeful that we get it built strong enough before we get washed over by the World Economic Forum and the Chinese reach all across the world and whatever threat Russia is.
Well, I do believe that the 2024 presidential election is our last chance to do so.
I've endorsed President Trump and you're supporting President Trump.
You endorse President Trump as well?
You know, I have to say, Laura, that I'm holding out until I hear a commitment for property rights.
I just can't be cut out and sit back and go, well, okay, I have to do all I can do.
And that means that I have this political capital and I have to make sure that I monitor it and I judiciously use it.
And if Trump will come in here, we kill this thing off right here in the Midwest.
And that's worth so much to this whole country.
It saves property rights for the whole nation.
So I'm holding out till I hear, I want to hear from President Trump.
And actually, if he watched your show tonight, he might speak tomorrow and it'll all be okay.
Yeah, so if President Trump commits to fight against eminent domain policies in Iowa and to protect property rights of Iowans and the Iowa farmers, which is under attack right now by members of the Iowa legislature who are supporting Ron DeSantis, then you will endorse President Trump.
You will endorse President Trump and campaign for President Trump in Iowa.
I am ready to do that should that all happen.
And it's also a wise move on his part because, and that exposes, it puts the light of day on the corruption that's in the hierarchy of the Republican Party in this state and across the upper Midwest.
So I think it puts him in a good position.
It puts me in a position of peace and comfort, and maybe I can get a good night's sleep after that.
Well, I think it's a fair ask.
I really do.
And I don't see why President Trump wouldn't support that.
So hopefully he's watching tonight, right?
He does often watch my show and share my articles.
So hopefully he takes what you said to heart.
Congressman, I want to thank you so much.
What were you going to say?
I was going to say, and I'll send a blizzard of text to his campaign team tomorrow and ask them, if you can send me this link, I'll send it to them in the morning.
Absolutely.
We'll send you the link and we'll clip this.
I'm gonna actually, you know what I'm gonna do?
I'm gonna actually put this live stream on Twitter, on X, and I'm also going to isolate this clip and I'm gonna clip it, the multiple segments, and I'll tweet it out and I'll tag his campaign officials too so that they all follow me on Twitter so they'll see it.
They will 100% see it because they all follow me and We're going to clip it.
So that's my promise to you and you know me, I keep my word.
Absolutely.
I'll make my team stay late tonight, okay?
You all hear me?
You're all staying late tonight and you're going to clip this clip and we're going to get it on Twitter tonight so that hopefully President Trump can see it before his event in Iowa tomorrow.
That's a good movie.
You took a lot of work off of me, Laura.
So hopefully he does, because I do think it's a really important issue.
But I know that deep down, you know, President Trump, if he were to hear this, he's a busy man, right?
Who knows?
Who knows if anyone has really brought this to his attention.
But obviously, I would say this.
I think that he's being shielded from it.
The state party chairman, Jeff Kaufman, who's been there too long, has been telling presidential candidates, talk about anything, but don't talk about this CO2 pipeline.
So I think he perhaps has been shielded from it.
And here's what my promise to this is that if President Trump will say yes, if his staff will open the door, I will go anywhere, anytime for 30 minutes eye to eye with President Trump.
And I have actually briefed five presidential candidates on this issue.
And all five of them came around on my side of this thing, which is the constitutional side, the side of justice, the side of prudence, and the side of not going off crazy into the global warming abyss.
So I'm willing to do that.
Of course, I'll buy my own ticket for wherever it might be.
I hope it's Florida, though.
Yeah, Florida and you get to get out of the snow and it's kind of cold though today.
You know, we are having a cold front.
You'd probably laugh at me because anything under 75, I'm like, oh my God, I'm such a baby and I'm so cold.
And I'm like shivering.
I'm wearing a sweater today and it's what, I think it's like 70 degrees outside.
It was really cold this weekend.
It was about 60, I don't know, 55.
Got a little chilly.
So I was wearing sweaters all weekend long.
But no snow.
You're more than welcome to come to Florida.
We want to see you again.
So feel free to come down and visit anytime you want.
And I will be down to the Keys in midwinter.
So we usually spend a month or a little better down there.
We go to Marathon.
And we just really enjoy it and look forward to it.
We look forward to it all year round.
What do you do at Marathon?
What do you do there?
Do you go fishing?
Do you just hang out by the water?
Do you go boating?
I do all those things.
Going fishing is the one thing I enjoy probably the most.
And it isn't so much whether you catch fish or not, it's just being out on the water.
I love it.
And I love the sun and we've got a nice pool there.
And we have another couple that we share a place with.
Works out great.
And then the iguanas, I try to do my part against them too.
Oh, I love iguanas.
You know, they kill a lot of those iguanas out and about here.
They have extermination companies that kill them, but I personally like them.
I know that some people hate them, but when I lived in Palm Beach, I used to go for like my morning walks and jogs and everything, and there would always be like 20 iguanas just sunbathing in the sun, and I like them personally.
I had a pet iguana when I was a kid.
I had a pet iguana and so for me I like them because I know this is gonna sound really gross to some people but like the iguana loved taking baths with me and my brother would sometimes take a bath with the iguana too and they really like warm water and so sometimes like I would take a bath and like I know it sounds really gross but the iguana liked it and we would put the iguana in the water not with soap obviously but just like warm water
And, um, separately, I didn't take a bath with my brother, of course, but, but the, but the iguana, the iguana would like it a lot.
And sometimes we would run the bath water for the iguana and, um, you know, it would run around the, it would run around the house.
It was pretty big and it would actually like sit with the dog.
And so the dog got used to the iguana and sometimes the iguana would sit on top of the dog.
And I really liked having a pet iguana and unfortunately it died one day.
But they were really cool pets, and if you actually socialize them and you play with them, they're pretty gentle.
The ones in the wild will bite you, of course, but they're great pets.
I really enjoyed having a pet iguana.
They poop in my pool, and I take exception to that, though.
They do.
They like pooping in water.
They do that.
Well, we found a disagreement, Laura.
Finally!
Finally!
We disagree over iguanas.
Alright, Congressman, so people can go one last time to your website where people can buy your book.
It's steveking.com, just steveking, all one word, steveking.com, and just click on there and it'll pop up on my screen and I will address the book and autograph it and send it to you.
If you prefer to go to Amazon or somewhere else, that's all fine there too, but I have some inventory here.
What I had to do was, in order to get my book out quickly, I went to the printer and had them print me off quite a few copies, hauled them home, and put a trailer behind my Yukon, Pulled him home on where'd I go, Illinois, and parked him in my warehouse out here.
So I've been settling out of there, and I'm down to the last layer on my last pallet.
But I'd be happy to autograph a book and send it off to people.
They're $28, but SteveKing.com.
Wonderful.
And you're on Twitter as well, so people can follow you on Twitter too.
So with that, thank you so much for joining me.
It's a pleasure catching up with you and also just speaking with you.
And thank you so much for informing the viewers tonight about this very pressing issue in Iowa.
And I hope that President Trump hears your message tonight and speaks out about it, because I do think it's a very important issue.
We've done some good tonight.
Thanks so much, Laura.
Appreciate you a lot.
Of course.
You can come on anytime you want.
My favorite member of Congress, Steve King.
So have a good night.
All right.
Talk to you soon.
Thank you.
Good night.
Thanks.
Good night.
Thank you.
He's the best.
I love Congressman Steve King.
He's just really just such a great guy, you guys.
He's my favorite.
Hopefully we're able to get his message to President Trump.
I recommend his book.
There's so much juicy information in there, lots of gossip, but it's not really gossip.
It's just things you need to know about Kevin McCarthy in his book.
And so I recommend that all of you check out Congressman Steve King's book if you haven't, and visit his website because it's a good read.
We're gonna go to the chat.
Let's see if people have any questions, any comments.
Someone said iguanas have filthy mouths full of diseases, kill them all.
That's so sad.
No, I like, they were, they, I know that some in the wild do, but if they're domesticated, their mouths are really not that dirty.
We would feed it a bunch of vegetables and, um, you know, fresh fruit.
It really liked that.
But yeah, the ones in the garbage, the ones in the public and in the wild, they eat garbage and things like that.
But if you have a pet iguana and you have, um, You know them domesticated in your house and you're feeding them vegetables and fruits.
They're fine.
They're clean.
You know you clean up after them and I don't know.
I used to we used to bring the iguana out with us.
It would sit on our shoulder when we were kids.
I remember going to Costco and people thought we were crazy.
But, when I was a kid, before I went to boarding school, we would actually bring the iguana out with us and walk around, because the PetSmart was right next to Costco.
And so, while my dad was going grocery shopping at Costco, we would take, my brother and I, well, I'm brothers, but one of them was really little at the time, we would walk inside the Petco with the iguana on our shoulders.
So, maybe that sounds really weird, but people are going to think I'm like a lizard person.
You know, giving a whole new name to lizard people.
But, uh, I had a lot of really interesting animals, actually, before my parents got divorced and we went to boarding school.
I had horses, I had donkeys, I had hamsters, I had, uh, fire-bellied toads, iguanas.
My house was like a zoo, honestly, before, you know, my parents separated and whatnot, and then, of course, all the animals were given away.
But, um, we had a lot of really cool animals as, um, when I was a little kid.
I really miss those animals.
What do I think about FISA 702?
Well, I was speaking out about this today.
We're going to talk about that, too.
We are going to take a few more questions before I bring Charles Downs on.
I introduced Charles to you.
Of course, he's our official Loomer Unleashed DC correspondent, and so he's going to give us his weekly update from the swap.
He was tracking down Zelensky today, and I'm proud to announce that Lumer Unleashed is actually the only media outlet that got video footage from what I saw of Zelensky going in to the White House through the motorcade.
Everybody else was on the wrong side of the White House today when he arrived, and so, um, that was really great.
We're going to bring Charles on in a moment.
Let's see.
Someone said such a great show.
Laura, you are awesome.
Thank you so much.
Um, so now Rumble's working.
They've been really messing with Kat here and Jules Jones.
I don't think that they are messing with them.
I think that just Rumble in itself has been a victim of a Chinese cyber attack or some type of cyber attack.
I don't know.
I think maybe... I don't know what it has to do with, but there's something going on.
Maybe because of the Chinese cyber attack that happened yesterday, Rumble was affected.
That's my theory.
I have no idea what's going on, but I know that Rumble definitely doesn't censor people.
It was just yesterday.
Everything was down.
I couldn't even get on Rumble.
Someone said, do I need a dog walker?
Yes, sometimes.
You know what we missed tonight, you guys?
That was live while we were doing our show, but there's just so much going on and nobody gives a shit about Ron DeSantis anymore.
It's the DeSantis CNN Town Hall.
I can't believe I missed it.
He had a town hall and apparently Jake Tapper got so caught up in meme world that he actually called Ron DeSantis Rob.
So I saw that as the highlights.
We could probably pull that clip up, actually.
It was trending on Twitter.
If you just type in CNN Jake Tapper Rob on Twitter, everybody's laughing about apparently Jake Tapper just called.
We're going to get the producer right now to pull it up.
Apparently Jake Tapper called Ron DeSantis Rob, which is a really funny joke because, you know, Trump sometimes calls him Rob.
I don't know.
It's just a meme, I guess.
It's pretty funny.
We could play it.
Jake Tapper.
Just type in Jake Tapper, CNN.
There we go.
Jake Tapper.
There.
Alex Brucewitz's post right there.
We have to download it because I don't think that the audio is going to play.
We have to play it.
Like, download it.
Actually put it on.
But if you go to Twitter and you look at, like, on Alex Brucewitz's page right there, you can see that he posted the video.
We're going to get it pulled up for you right now.
But Jake Tapper actually called him Rob.
It's pretty funny.
You guys make sure that you press one in the chat if you enjoyed the interviews with Norm Pattis and Steve King.
Charles is on the line right now, and so we don't want to make him wait too much longer.
So, Charles, can you hear me?
Are you there?
And if so, what was your day like in the swamp tracking down Voldemar Zielinski?
Oh, what's up, Laura?
Well, all I could say, it was like an America last party in the swamp today.
Everyone got money, but the American people.
Everyone got access, but the American people.
It was really quite a remarkable scene.
I lived in DC probably for like four years, and I've seen the president and vice president leave the White House, go to Congress, back ways.
But I've never seen anything like what I saw with Zelensky.
One of the videos, like the police were actually like, hey, you can't move.
Stop moving.
And like literally made everyone stand like completely still on the sidewalk as his motorcade was driving by.
And we have those clips today that you filmed.
We have those.
We have those clips and we're going to play them for you guys so you can see them.
But you had to wake up very early.
You know, you had to get there very early because they're very sneaky about the way that they bring these people in.
And upon arriving there this morning, it's freezing cold, right?
Tell people what happened.
They locked it down!
You can't even get in!
So usually you can go to Congress, you can see these hearings, you can walk around Congress.
I mean, usually Congress is pretty open, but now I guess they just locked everything down today.
It was kind of like in the aftermath of J6 when you saw barricades all around Congress and the Hill.
Tell people what the scene was.
We're going to play the clip here soon for everyone to watch, but just describe it, right?
Put it into words as to what you saw when you arrived early this morning at what?
What time did you get there?
Like 7.30?
Yeah, it was around 730 and you're absolutely right.
It was like post J6 apocalyptic world in Washington, D.C.
They had these like barriers out and they extended beyond the sidewalk.
So people had to walk on the street.
So the traffic was moving really slow because like people were just walking on the street.
And I guess to give people a better understanding of the United States Capitol complex as a whole, it's a pretty large, it's like probably two miles in diameter with the House and Senate office buildings and a Supreme Court.
And traffic's rolling through.
It's like a busy intersection too.
So people are just walking on the road because you can't walk on the sidewalks because they have barriers out.
And it was just a traffic nightmare.
And then Zelensky comes up and you couldn't get anywhere close.
And it was really sad to see because they didn't think to warn the American people that the United States Capitol complex would be closed today.
And I just want to reiterate, like Kamala Harris goes to the Capitol complex a lot.
They never close it down.
Back in the day, like Mike Pence showed up a lot.
They never shut it down.
A lot of world leaders go to the Capitol complex and it's never closed.
But yeah, they completely shut it down.
And they were, you see it in the video.
There's like seven or eight little kids and three or four parents standing, talking to the Capitol police officer as Zelensky's driving by, confused why they can't have a tour of the United States Capitol.
And if you really think about the timing and all of this, it's really terrible.
It's Christmas time.
A lot of tourists come to DC in Christmas.
Everyone has like their schedules jam packed.
So it's like, Oh, we'll see the Capitol at nine.
And the Biden administration is so awful with the museums here that a lot of people have to like pre-register to get tickets to the museum.
So if you can't go to the Capitol at 9am and.
You're scheduled to go to like three or four museums in the afternoon.
Well, you don't get to see the Capitol.
And that's a really big shame because obviously the Capitol is funded by American taxpayers.
And it's a really big shame that some guy showed up to the Capitol demanding literally billions more dollars after receiving billions of dollars before, and the American people aren't allowed inside the Capitol.
And it really makes you think too, was there a really Huge security concern.
It's really funny.
All the liberals in Washington, D.C.
freak out whenever, oh, there's a pro-Trump protest.
It's like the worst thing ever.
I remember in 2022, there was like this pro-J6 protest.
They freaked out.
They put the Capitol wall up.
It was when they had like the FBI Well, it's kind of interesting, right?
Because they did have Ukrainian spies, like we already know from my reporting as well.
People who watch my show saw Jacob Chansley come on when we spoke about the Ukrainian spies who were in the capital on J6.
And now we see Speaker Johnson, you know, lying about releasing all the footage and saying that he's gonna release it all when only 90,000 hours are released and now they're gonna Blur everybody's faces because, well, they don't want us seeing the faces of all those federal informants, right?
So yeah, I mean, it makes you wonder because the last time we saw the Capitol locked down that much was J6, the anniversary of J6, which happened to be the day that Kevin McCarthy, they were voting on Kevin McCarthy to be speaker.
And so you just can't see, you can't help but notice the similarities and I think it is rather concerning that the FBI knows that Ukrainian spy operatives were there that day because J6ers were interrogated about this and it was never released to the American people.
They have not given a statement but they have not Tried to counter my reporting in any way whatsoever.
And this was even written about by Newsweek when I first broke this story.
And so, you know, why are we giving money to a guy who is the head of a country that committed an act of war against the United States of America?
They sent their spy operatives to penetrate our capital.
They had color revolution tactics on January 6th by Ukrainian nationals and members of the Azov battalion who were posing as members of a Ukrainian media company owned by a Ukrainian oligarch who happens to be one of the biggest supporters and donors to Zelensky.
And now you see people like Nikki Haley running for president, okay?
So you see the way that Zelensky tries to corner and work with the Democrats in order to influence our election, okay?
And they're trying to make this an issue leading up to the presidential election of 2024 because now, you know, will we even have an election?
We already know that Vladimir Putin has threatened nuclear war.
We already know that.
And now Joe Biden is threatening American troops on the ground.
And Zelensky is trying to blackmail our government into saying, OK, well, you know what?
You're going to give us more money or else you're going to have Americans die and shed blood overseas fighting Russian soldiers.
And now you have Nikki Haley of all people.
Her largest donor to her campaign happens to be a Ukrainian billionaire by the name of Jan Cohen, who is a key Zelensky ally as well.
And so you see all of this cross-pollution.
Right?
Cross-pollution between the so-called right and the left in this country.
But really, at the end of the day, they're united as one in their hatred of Donald Trump and their desire to push for this globalist New World Order and never-ending wars.
Yeah, and everything you're saying is 100% accurate.
And what's even crazier is what I wonder about the Ukrainians at the Capitol on January 6th is was the big guy getting 10% for that?
And did the Biden, incoming Biden regime directly coordinate with the Zelensky and Ukrainian government to bring operatives over?
It definitely seems like it.
And I guess to kind of wrap this point up about Ukrainians at the Capitol is, it's really funny.
Everyone in Washington DC makes a big deal about Trump supporters coming to town, all the liberals who live here.
But yet nobody seemed to care when the dude who literally is on the front lines of potentially World War III comes to town.
They have to close the whole town down.
They don't even let you move on the sidewalk.
So they clearly are scared about something.
And yet the media barely makes a peep that literally millions of American lives are in danger because Zelensky had to come to Washington, D.C.
Why didn't he go to Camp David?
I don't think Zelensky should be coming to the United States of America at all.
I think we should kick him out.
We've given him enough money.
I don't know what he needs more billions for, but I guess for the sake of argument, if he's coming to America, they literally have Camp David for situations like this.
So leaders like Zelensky, who has literally billions of dollars of bounties on his head, doesn't need to come into Washington, D.C.
and endanger millions of people.
It's insane.
I can't even imagine how many rockets, missiles were literally aimed at Washington, D.C.
from Eastern Europe because Zelensky decided to take a trip to town to beg for more money.
And the most disturbing thing I think about Zelensky coming to town today is the dude didn't even bring his own security.
He was bumming off American security the whole time.
He was bumming off Biden's secret service on his trip to the White House, and he was bumming off United States Capitol police and local DC police on his trip to Congress.
And I'll say this, looking at the law enforcement, especially the United States Capitol police outside the Capitol today, they looked really nervous and they looked like they didn't want any part of what was going on.
And I kind of felt bad for them because if you think about it, they're not, I mean, their pay is all right, but they should be getting paid more, especially the good ones.
There are some bad Capitol Police officers, don't get me wrong, and they should be fired.
But I'm just talking about like the everyday, Hey, I just go to work, protect the Capitol.
I'm not in a leadership position, Capitol Police officer.
And by the way, those are the ones who they have standing outside in the cold on the front lines.
God forbid, something did happen.
They're the ones who get hurt.
And.
Like I said, they look like they want no part of this Zelensky guy coming to town today.
And it's just disturbing.
The leaders of the United States Congress, the uniparty globalists who control that sloppy legislative body.
They just don't care.
They wanted their photo ops of Zelensky.
They want to give Zelensky money because, you know, it probably gets kicked back to their kids' pension funds.
Or they get their 10% just like Joe Biden.
But they don't care that literally millions of people in Washington, D.C.
had their lives in danger today.
They don't care.
They don't care that families who maybe planned a trip to Washington, D.C.
a year ago saved up all their money in this terrible Joe Biden economy.
They come to Washington, D.C., their kids are on Christmas break, and they want to see the Capitol during Christmas time.
Sorry, you can't come in today.
They don't care that they basically... Yeah, sorry, you can't come in.
The Ukrainian dictator is here.
Sorry, Zelensky bought the Capitol.
He's panhandling.
If Zelensky wants to come and have the Capitol to himself, can he at least show up on a Sunday when it's closed?
Or a Saturday when it's closed?
I know, right?
I just want to drive the point home.
It's so unusual for the United States Capitol Complex to be closed on a weekend.
It really is.
Even when world leaders come, it's not closed down like this.
I mean, they have all types of world leaders here all the time.
It's never shut down like that, and so it is really unprecedented for them to have barricades all around.
Let's go ahead.
We're going to play the clips.
We're going to play the first one of Well, we'll just play both of these clips and then you can tell people what we're watching here.
So we'll go ahead and play this first one.
So we'll go ahead and play this one.
Hold on one second.
I don't know I was gonna catch it here yeah yeah sorry I'm gonna go there hey guys I'll have a seat.
I'm sorry.
I don't know.
I was going to catch it here.
Come on.
Yeah, yeah.
Sorry.
There you go.
I'm gonna go there.
It's like a never-ending motorcade.
It's like, how many damn trucks do you need?
Holy hell.
My God.
Yeah, he has a bigger motorcade than I think the president usually has when he goes to the state.
No, I mean like that's larger than what the president has usually.
I mean, what the hell?
It's like never-ending.
And the fact that American citizens are being told like, oh, don't, you can't cross the street because the dictator of Ukraine is here today.
I mean, it's just really insulting and, uh, Charles, we have a present for you live on air.
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And like I said, there were no other reporters out there, Charles.
Tell people, because we have a second clip.
We're going to play the second clip right now.
And people can see...
This is the clip of Zelensky's motorcade going into the White House, and we were the only news outlet there to capture this because everybody else was either too lazy to wake up early in the morning, or they were just on the opposite side.
You said in the morning nobody else was there, and in the afternoon around two when the second video was filmed, all the other reporters were hanging out in the wrong location.
So we're going to play it and then have you comment on it and what it was like being there first.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Hold on.
All right.
Hold on sir, hold on.
Put that back.
Alright.
Yeah, I'll say this.
The location he came in was so weird.
If you all noticed that statue, that's Lafayette Square where those BLM riots started in 2020, where they almost tipped that statue over and then lit the church on fire.
So it was kind of weird he chose to go in that entrance.
There's so many entrances he could have chosen to go into, but he chose that one, which I thought was kind of odd.
And yeah, like what you were saying, we were the only ones that got it.
It was kind of funny.
All these other reporters were lined up on Pennsylvania Avenue because That's like the quickest way back from the capitals, just shoot down Pennsylvania.
But I looked over like near Independence and I saw like the traffic wasn't moving.
And I was like, well, their traffic's not moving.
They have the roads closed and they have the roads closed.
He's going down that street.
And I was really happy I was able to get that because even when the vice president or the president, like I said, Actually, when the president goes to the Capitol for the State of the Union, they do close the roads.
But the vice president, who goes to the Capitol complex a lot, and the vice president who lives at the Naval Observatory, which is like two miles from the White House, when they come into town to the White House or to the Capitol complex, they don't close the roads at all.
And they just zoom past.
And it's just typical procedure in DC.
And like I said, I've never been stopped.
It was really eerie.
They said, Hey, you can't walk anymore.
Stand still.
Stand right there.
That was eerie.
Like the fact that they were like patrolling the sidewalks like that.
So it was just like, what do they have going on?
And half his motorcade split.
So some, some of it went in through Pennsylvania and then him himself went in through the back entrance.
And that made me think too, like, how worried are they that World War Three could potentially start in Washington DC and they're taking all these extra security precautions and no one seems to care.
And obviously the mainstream media is going out of its way to hide the truth about what's going on in that this trip was really risky and really dangerous for America's national security.
And the fact that like Ukraine is no interest for the United States and Ukraine.
The fact that the Biden administration, with the Uniparty leaders in Congress, Mitch McConnell, Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, and, you know, Speaker Johnson could have put his foot down and said, Zelensky's not welcome on the House side, but he didn't do that, did he?
And the fact that they opened the American public up to this potential huge disaster, like, what if someone Like I said, Eastern European business, not America's, but it just came, comes to Washington, D.C.
because that guy's there and something really goes wrong.
And Washington, D.C.
is a really small city.
I want to like emphasize that to people who've never been here.
There's a lot of people who live here, but it's really small.
So I live like five miles from the Capitol Complex, but it takes me 45 minutes to an hour to get there driving.
And that's how small this place is.
I live like three miles from the Pentagon, but that's like a 25 minute drive.
So all this stuff and all these like houses are around, like there's little houses right off the Capitol complex that like families live at.
So if something terrible went wrong, like, like I said, millions of people's lives could have been impacted.
And like I said earlier, I think it's really funny how.
Here in Washington, D.C., the lamestream media makes a big deal whenever MAGA comes to town.
But when some dude literally leading the charge for World War III comes to town, and they have to do all these weird security adjustments, nobody says a word.
And it's actually really horrifying.
Because what are they saying behind closed doors?
There's a reason why they didn't let the general public into the Capitol today.
Maybe it was security, but I think a lot of it was they didn't want people asking questions, and they didn't want people seeing who was going into these meetings.
Who else was at the meetings at the United States Capitol today?
Because kind of the way the Capitol works is anyone can get in when it's like that, shut down like that, if a staffer comes out and gets you.
So what defense contractors were present at the meeting today?
Multinational corporations like BlackRock were present at the meeting on the hill today.
We'll never know because they didn't let the public in, and the few media they did let in, it was just CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, all the stations owned by BlackRock, so obviously they're not going to tell them themselves.
So what you said, yeah, we're the only ones who were there who got like genuine footage who aren't corrupted.
And going back to the first video, if y'all remember, Like I said, there was like seven or eight little kids just standing outside the Capitol trying to get in.
And where Zelensky walked in on that side of the Capitol complex, just for people who've never been there.
That's like the side, if you walk in and you look directly across the street, you'll see the Supreme Court.
And there's this like beautiful white stone, like in this area of the complex.
And everyone you see, like take a selfie or like any tourist place.
It's like the must go place for tourists.
It's like stand there and take a picture.
And then you walk down the stairs and you can walk around the complex.
You also like, I want people to know too, you don't need a tour to go tour the Capitol.
So.
Anyone can go into a complex and tour themselves.
I know like some people think you need a tour, but yeah, you don't need that and people know that.
So like I said, people literally just had their days ruined.
And what tops all this off is if you go to the United States Visitor Center Capital Complex website, this is an article on bloomer.com.
They said the Capitol was closed tomorrow, not today.
So they can't even do that right.
And somebody is getting paid a lot of money, probably way more than the average American makes a year to update that website, and they can't even do that correctly.
Say that again?
They said it was closed for what?
Repeat that for the people that may not have caught that.
Yeah, so on the Capitol Visitor Center website, this is in the article, like the screenshots there, they said the Capitol Complex, like some rooms, would be closed on Wednesday.
So there was nothing on the website about the visitor center or anything being closed and like I said that's why in the first video you see there's like big line of families like talking to the police like legitimately confused because any other day you can just walk right past like that police area and you can just walk They can't even get their dates right, and we're going to pull this up.
We're going to pull this up on the screen.
And who else is telling you guys this?
You know, this is an exclusive report on Lumared.com that was published today by Charles, our correspondent from D.C.
And where else would you guys get this information?
Nobody else is talking about this.
We're going to get it up on the screen right now, full screen, and you can see right there where it says that it was closed on Wednesday.
Well, today is Tuesday, December 12th, and it is not Wednesday.
So yeah, you're absolutely right.
They can't even get their dates right.
And somebody is getting paid.
Somebody's getting paid taxpayer money on a government job so they could be like a DMV Shiniqua and basically do nothing and get their dates wrong.
That's what they're doing.
They're basically a DMV Shiniqua that gets paid to post wrong information, misinformation.
That's your one job is to inform the American public and you can't even do that correctly.
I call them DMV Shaniquas.
That's what I call them, honestly.
They're the same like deep state actors, by the way.
I mean, they're all at different levels, but the person who can't update the website is probably friends with the person who was sabotaging the Trump administration back in the day, who's been here for 25, 30 years.
They just think they're so much better than everyone else.
So many people who live, I would say 90% of the population who live in Washington, D.C.
They just think the American people are there to serve them, when in reality it needs to be said the opposite.
The people, you're there to serve the American people.
And it's just a shame.
They can't even tell people The Capitol Complex is going to be closed on the correct date, and it's a big deal.
It's expensive to come to Washington, D.C., and if you have three or four kids, and to take off school.
And like I said, it's the holidays, so a lot more people are in town, and that's what makes what their little stunt today so dangerous, I think.
Because there are a lot more tourists in and around the Capitol Complex than normal, because The weather here in December is like 55 and sunny, so it's pretty nice to walk around all day.
And they have the Christmas tree up at the Capitol.
They have the Christmas tree up at the White House.
They got Christmas trees up everywhere.
They got like big huge menorahs up too.
It's really beautiful.
And a lot of people, like I said, they'll come to town and see all the sights.
So we literally had a dude on the front lines of World War III running around Washington D.C.
They were clearly concerned about the security as literally tens of thousands of people were also walking around within like the same two mile radius who don't know the town very well and if God forbid something terrible happened it would just be pure chaos.
And it's just amazing that we're the only outlet that kind of covered every single angle.
Yeah, I just can't believe it.
It's like, all they want to do is talk about Putin and Zelensky all day, every day.
And you'd think that they would, you know, have competent people.
And they're funded.
They get billions of dollars a year for their budgets.
Really, honestly, some of these mainstream media companies, they have multi-billion dollar budgets.
They're just not showing people what they need to see.
But that's why Loomer Unleashed in the swamp.
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Yeah, I agree.
The scam's up.
You and I have talked a lot about this.
We know exactly the games people are playing.
We know exactly the games.
We know where they go for their coffee.
We know where they go for their lunch.
We know where they hang out.
We're going to get them.
We're going to get them.
And it's not a call for violence.
It's not a call for violence before they start freaking out and running articles.
Laura Loomer says she's going to hunt down and get these members of Congress.
No, we're going to find you.
We're going to find you and we're going to put the Loomer Unleashed mic in your face and we're going to hold you accountable.
Because no one else is doing it.
Who's doing it?
None of them.
No one.
And like I said, it's crazy.
We're the only ones that kind of got the human angle of the whole Zelensky trip today.
And I think when war, the human angle at like the most basic level is the most important story to tell.
And How Zelensky's trip to DC impacted just average American citizens before he started taking people's tax money again.
Just really says it.
Like, you would think if you're coming to a country to take billions more dollars, you'd want to, like, invite the people into the Capitol to, like, meet with them.
Like, the Capitol Police actually, like, I'm talking about just the normal security, not, like, the leaders.
But, like, the Capitol Police, when you go through medical detectors and stuff, it's actually pretty safe when they actually want to do their jobs.
And also, another thing, too, is, like.
They work with great apps and stuff.
It's pretty secure.
Well, I really don't understand.
What I don't understand is how we sent this guy $300 billion and he couldn't buy a suit.
Like, we already know he's not spending the money on things that he needs to be spending it on anyway.
But, like, if you're gonna spend the money on things that you shouldn't have, like, can you at least buy a suit?
Can you at least buy a suit instead of wearing the same, like, G.I.
Joe or G.I.
Ukraine outfit to Congress every single time?
I mean, every single time the guy's on TV, he's wearing that stupid green sweater that says, I am a Ukrainian.
Yeah, like, we don't already know that you're Ukrainian, you stupid asshole.
Like...
This guy is just so awful.
He's an actor.
You know those little G.I.
Joe dolls that everybody had like growing up with the Barbie dolls and everything and they were in their little command like fatigues or the outfit that G.I.
Joe wears?
I am so sick of it.
Does Zelensky not have a laundry machine?
Does he not have a suit?
Or does he just wear the same outfit every day?
Do you think that in his closet it's like Barbie where it's the same outfit?
I mean even dolls have multiple outfits.
Can we get this man some proper attire please?
Anybody?
I mean, if we're going to be sending $300 billion, can we please just buy him a suit so he can at least look presentable when he comes to our Capitol in the White House panhandling, acting like a beggar?
Yeah, he probably puts the nice $5,000 suit on as soon as he leaves and the cameras turn off.
I mean, look at this outfit.
Look at it.
It's such a gimmick.
I'm so bothered by this.
I don't know why.
I don't know why I'm so bothered by it, but I'm really bothered by the way that he shows up.
Like a spoiled brat, you know?
Or somebody that shows up to a meeting in sweatpants.
Do you have any respect for the institution at hand?
Do you have any respect for going to the White House?
Like, I don't even like Joe Biden.
I don't even recognize him as the legitimate president of the United States of America.
But if I was in the White House, I wouldn't look like an absolute schlep and slop like Zelensky.
And I'm not one to really judge people based off their clothing, but you're a world leader and you're showing up in, like, a little green gym shirt and a sweater that says, I'm a Ukrainian.
It's just disrespectful to our country.
It's disrespectful how this guy refuses to actually, like, Wear proper attire and be a respectable individual.
It's just, I don't know, I just feel like it's a sign of disrespect.
You should actually dress for the role that you want, and you would think that somebody who's a president of a country would actually dress up a bit.
Yeah, and you would think he'd be a lot more transparent about his visit today, too.
Like I said, if he wants billions of more dollars, wouldn't he be like, Let's make it a normal day at the Capitol.
I'm gonna like give this presentation on why I need a billion more dollars here so I'm gonna use the money XYZ and hey that's a wrap that's it.
That's what a lot of leaders do when they come to Washington DC actually and demand money that our Congress sadly gives them but like I said at least they're open about it and anyone can come and watch their stupid lame presentation on why we need to give them money even though we shouldn't and sadly we always end up giving them money but I said, at least that's open to the public.
And yeah, he had like a new outfit on today.
If y'all notice, it was like customized.
Like you said, it's like, I am Ukrainian.
And he wasn't very nice at any of the press conferences.
He never said, thank you, American people for all your money.
I really appreciate it.
I'm really working hard.
We'll try to pay you back.
Like, Here's a free Netflix subscription to my crappy TV show.
You probably won't watch it, but I'm really grateful for all your money, so here's my free crappy TV show I was on.
Like, he can't even give us a free Netflix subscription for his crappy TV show.
I think Nash is criminal.
Like, why can't he just give us that?
But yeah, he just demands, demands, demands, and then says, Oh, if you don't give us money, like you support Putin on during Biden's.
And yeah, apparently he just did that today.
Like, Oh, if Trump gets in, like, are you worried?
Um, what about the Republicans in Russia?
And it just looks like they're gonna use this to play the Trump-Russia collusion hoax.
They are, and I just posted a tweet right now.
I just retweeted it.
I just saw it while you were talking, and apparently, uh, just right now, Zelensky tonight after meeting with Joe Biden.
He was on Fox News and he was saying the same thing, like, don't build roads, don't build infrastructure, give me all your money because our only enemy is Putin.
So we're going to get that clip right now downloaded and put up on the big screen for all of you to watch it and you can hear it yourself.
But it's just unbelievable, the hubris.
I mean, honestly, it's out of control.
It is so out of control what's going on.
We're going to play this clip and then you're all going to hear it for yourself.
While we're waiting on that, or I think we actually have it up right now, let's play it, and then we're going to go to the chat.
I'm going to get your reaction at the end of this clip, and then I'm going to go to the chat.
I'm going to take questions while you're on in case people have questions.
So let's go ahead.
This is Zelensky on Fox News Today.
What do you say to critics who are saying that?
I say such person from government or mayors think about the war, think about how to defend our people.
Don't travel through the world each day.
Travel to the front line.
Ask people, ask soldiers what they need.
Do this.
Not build roads for today.
Don't do it.
Spend all your money to the weapon, to the drones, to the society, to the pensions and etc.
And don't cry.
Because you're leaders.
And that's it.
That's why we are.
And that's why we stay.
Because mostly people are not trying.
People stay and fight against Putin.
And we don't have any enemies in our country.
We can't have time for this.
And we don't have it.
We have only one enemy.
This is Putin.
And that's it.
But you'll stand for democracy going forward?
Yes, of course.
And of course, because we are really defending democracy, and we are really defending freedom.
Mr. President, we appreciate your time, and we'll continue to follow.
So, uh, yeah, oh, uh, don't build a wall, and, uh, don't, uh, don't cry about the fact that your kids can't eat food because of, by inflation, because, uh, we need to kill Putin.
Yeah, okay, buddy.
I, uh, go, go screw yourself.
That's my message to Zelensky, okay?
Because this is our money, and there are people who are struggling in this country right now who, uh, can't pay their bills, okay?
Kids are going hungry, senior citizens are going without, There are homeless veterans.
And no, we don't need to sit here and cry for the Ukrainian people.
And no, we're not going to sit here and not cry about the deteriorating state of our own country.
And oh, he wants to talk about democracy.
Is that what he calls locking up American journalists?
Because we have American journalists right now who are locked up for reporting the truth about the scam war in Ukraine.
Is canceling elections and locking up his opposition like Joe Biden what we call democracy?
I don't think so.
This guy, Zelensky, is a criminal, okay?
He is a conman, he is a Nazi, and he is a world-class bullshit artist.
That's my message to Zelensky.
I'll say this to him.
I challenge Zelensky.
I grew up in Ohio.
Come to Youngstown, Ohio, and tell me that America doesn't need to build roads and bridges and deal with the opioid crisis.
Last time I checked, China was bringing opioids into the United States, not Russia.
So again, Mr. Zelensky should go visit America's Rust Belt and see if he still wants to make those comments again.
Because there's a lot of areas in this town that are hurting.
There's a lot of people crying, too.
It can dirt on people's faces.
Keeps the theme up that these globalists like Zelensky just love to kick the Rust Belt down and kick all the people in the Midwest down.
And a lot of these people in the Midwest, their tax dollars are going to Zelensky.
A lot of them work for companies that make products that get sent to Ukraine, probably at a reduced price.
And they go home and maybe one of their kids is addicted to opioids.
Their factory job isn't there anymore.
Everything's broken.
And then this guy goes on Fox News, probably the only network a lot of these people watch, and just kicks dirt on their faces.
It's terrible.
It's disgusting.
It's terrible.
So let's get you to go to the Rust Belt and see if he'll make those comments again, which he probably would because, you know, he really likes money and he doesn't care who he hurts to get money.
And what front lines is he talking about?
I mean, I don't see front lines.
The only videos I see coming out of Ukraine are Eastern European whores.
Okay.
All I see are videos of Eastern European whores.
These disgusting women who are just sitting there taking their clothes off at beachfront Pool parties, okay?
Shaking their asses or going to nightclubs in mini dresses in the winter.
So if it's a war zone, how come all these Eastern European whores are dancing to EDM music everywhere?
How come my timeline is filled with a bunch of women literally dressed like a bunch of escorts dancing and having the time of their life?
I just don't understand it.
I don't understand.
Is that what a war zone looks like?
Is that what a war zone looks like?
Because if so, I think we have a lot of American men that said they wanted to get signed up for the draft.
I'm being facetious, of course, but listen.
You see all these videos all the time come out of Ukraine, and it's like, if it's a war zone, how come all these people are just partying non-stop?
I mean, they have all these TikTok videos and all these videos of all these young Ukrainians partying every single weekend.
I don't know.
There seems to be a disconnect.
When was the last time we actually like really saw any images of war out of Ukraine?
I'm just asking people to think rationally here because the only images that I see out of Ukraine these days are women, like actual escorts, people dancing, partying in Ukraine and And young people going to music festivals.
That's all I see.
And you can go online.
You can go on TikTok.
You can go on Instagram.
You can go on Facebook.
You can go on even Twitter and see it for yourself.
We're going to post some of these videos right now.
Some of these recent videos out of Ukraine.
And you can see there's Americans that our cities look like third world dumps.
Migrants everywhere.
Trash everywhere.
People OD'ing on the side of the road.
And we're going to show you right now some of these videos coming out of Ukraine.
Let's play this clip that we just... I believe it's downloading right now.
We're going to get it lined up and you can see for yourself what I'm talking about.
Not an exaggeration.
Go ahead and play this clip.
This is what a war zone looks like.
*musique*
*musique* . .
Wow.
That's a war zone, apparently.
That's a front line, according to Zelensky.
Like I said, Eastern European whores getting drunk.
That's where our money's going, okay?
And, of course, Zelensky.
I was told that Zelensky is going to be moving to Vero Beach, Florida.
Beachfront property!
Apparently, he's filled out paperwork and he's going to be staying in a $22 million mansion on the beach here.
So, my point is, in the state of Florida.
Where's this money going exactly?
Is it going for him to buy mansions for his family in Israel?
Apparently he bought an $8 million mansion for his parents in Israel.
He's paying $22 million or staying in the $22 million mansion in South Florida.
He's traveling all over the world.
His wife went on a €44,000 shopping spree in Paris.
Where's the money going?
Because I just don't understand what a war zone what a war zone looks like if it's if it includes photo shoots with Vogue like he and his wife do where they got dressed up and they did this whole photo shoot for Vogue and then you see these photos of these drunk girls and drunk guys dancing around having the time of their life like these are not people in a war zone.
If you are partying certainly life isn't that bad right?
So what exactly are we funding?
I just Wanted to show people these videos because as I said before The the the heavily funded mainstream lamestream media isn't gonna show you those videos of all these Eastern European whores Getting drunk on American taxpayer money Yeah, I was gonna say I bet you that alcohol is free paid for by you and me And their supermarkets look a lot nicer than ours too.
They're actually stocked up.
They're not missing any supplies and It's crazy, especially areas like the depressed Rust Belt.
There's not even any supermarkets in some cities anymore, actually.
Food deserts, but... In Ukraine, they have stock supermarkets, parties, and... But I guess it's a war zone.
And prostitutes, apparently.
Lots of prostitutes.
It seems like Zelensky's playing his exit, too, like what you were saying.
He's spending all these millions on mansions, ready to peace out as soon as, I guess, the grift is up.
He loses.
So he doesn't even have his own people in mind.
It's just always about himself.
And I think that's why he gets along so well with America's politicians, because so many of America's politicians, especially the leaders of the House and Senate, GOP and House and Senate Democrats, they're all in it for themselves.
They don't care about the people.
They don't care that they're harming American people as long as they get They're 10% like the big guy currently occupying the White House.
They're happy.
And like I said, I think that's why Zelensky and these people get along so well because they're of the same philosophy.
It's not democracy.
It's my way, helping myself, and that's all I care about.
Yeah, at the expense of the American people.
Before we go tonight, we are going to take a few questions from the chat.
Let's go to the chat really quick for any of you who may have some questions for Charles.
We are live right now, so be sure that you are sharing the link as well.
Let's see.
Somebody said, wow, the Nebraskan barbarian.
He goes, wow, what a dangerous place.
Probably the only real threat is an STD.
Yeah, exactly.
That's true.
Oh my God.
Someone said, oh my God, you must be joking, Laura.
Please be joking.
No, I'm telling you that is real video.
These are the videos coming out of Ukraine.
I'm not joking.
I wish I was joking.
Um, Let's see.
Somebody said, Sons of Liberty Maga 45 ACP said, uh, combat veteran here struggling with bills and groceries and this tiny little cocksucker wants to keep stealing my money and taking out of my kid's mouth in their future and says, don't cry.
F you.
Yeah, I agree.
Exactly.
F you.
Exactly.
Like this guy needs to, you know.
Somebody said, Gene Bondano said, Vero Beach won't let Zelensky live there.
The local government controls who they let buy property there.
Yeah, but it looks like he's renting it, though.
Like, it's a $22 million mansion.
We can't figure out whose name is on the mansion, because on the paperwork, that's hidden.
But you can look it up.
I believe we may even have the documents, if we can pull it up.
But we took a screenshot of it.
We were looking at it earlier in the studio.
We were actually talking about it last week.
But it's interesting because Vero Beach isn't too far from Fort Pierce where President Trump's trial is going to be taking place.
It's just, I don't know, it's just really weird.
There's a lot of weird stuff going on.
Very weird stuff.
Not saying it has anything to do with Trump, but I'm just saying that, like, It's interesting, right, that Zelensky would want to, in an election year, come down to Vero Beach, which is like an hour and a half away from Mar-a-Lago, and we have the document right here.
We're gonna pull it up, so... So, check this out, you guys, okay?
We're gonna get the producer to pull this up right now.
I'm gonna show you the images soon of these mansions that he's gonna be staying in in Vero Beach.
And the paperwork with the Department of State.
In the meantime, though, we have a super chat from BSH Hoper.
Can you please go full Lumerd on David Sachs for only talking up on X?
While sitting on Rumble's board, Rumble is free speech, tip of the spear.
Yeah, look, I mean, you see all these people obsessing over Alex Jones being back on X. That's really great and everything, and I love Alex and I think it's great, but like, also, Chris Pavlosky and Rumble gave all these people who were banned opportunities while X didn't give a shit about them.
So, you know, Elon could have given Alex's account back a long time ago, but it's Rumble that actually helped give Alex and people like Andrew Tate opportunities before they were allowed back on.
So it would be nice to see a lot of these, you know, a lot of these, I'm not taking a dig at Alex, but I'm just saying in general, like some of these people that are supposedly on the board and people like David Sachs and others help Rumble out as well because Rumble is a free speech platform too and they need support.
So people always forget the people that help them, right?
Someone said Vero is a small beach town.
Yeah, exactly, which is why he's trying to try to come here.
Let's get this full screen.
Let's get it up on the full screen so you can see it.
The United States of America.
We can't confirm if it's real.
I mean, this is what was floating around.
There was a journalist that last week released this, and it was making the rounds.
So I think it's interesting.
I haven't confirmed if this is real or not, but apparently there's talk in Vero Beach because I know a lot of people in Vero, very connected in that area.
And I'll just tell you from living in Florida, there's a lot of chatter about Zelensky moving to Vero Beach.
And people are being, like, very hush-hush about it, but this is a real home, this mansion that apparently Zelensky will be spending time in.
This is a real home in a very exclusive community.
You can see it for yourself in Vero Beach, and I'll tell you that it is the talk of the town right now all over Vero about how Zelensky is going to be here.
There was a journalist last week.
I think we can get that clip pulled up if we have it and you can see it.
Um, but there was an independent journalist who produced this document and said that Zelensky's going to be spending some time here, so we'll see.
We'll see, right?
We'll see if it turns out to be the case, but I figured I would just show you guys anyway, even though it hasn't officially been confirmed yet, because Because if it does turn out to be the case, well, you all deserve to see it.
So people are talking about it online.
There's a lot of chatter about it in some different parts of the Internet.
But look, of course, they're not going to want to let people know Zelensky is coming to Vero Beach to stay in a $22 million mansion if it is the case.
So we'll see, right?
We shall see.
and And someone said, and we're paying for that most likely.
It's disgusting.
Somebody says, my cousin lives in Vero Beach.
That's nice.
Um, Zelensky's Jewish.
Why isn't he moving to Boca?
Good point.
That is a good point.
Probably because they don't want him over there.
He's not really Jewish, is he, if he's like supporting all these Nazis.
I don't even believe he's Jewish, honestly.
He says he's Jewish, but like, how can you be Jewish and then support the Azov battalion?
You know, like actual Nazis.
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What do you think that Snake McCarthy is up to with his bowtied boyfriend and DC roomie, Frank Luntz, right?
What are they scheming?
Nothing good.
I mean, he's retiring now early at the end of the year.
Obviously, he was trying to diminish the majority in Congress because all it's going to take is like, you know, one of these geriatrics in Congress to have an incident and then boom, right?
One more seat is all it's going to take and then we're going to get Speaker Hakeem Jeffries.
So it's not good.
Maybe you'll be able to loomer McCarthy Charles before he retires.
What do you think?
Do you think that sometime you can hunt him down and go get him?
And not violently, of course, but hunt him down with the microphone, the Loomer Unleash mic, and ask him a couple questions.
Oh, I'd love to ask little Kevin some questions.
You know, his speakership was such a disaster.
And he kind of put us in a position where we're in right now, which isn't a very good position.
Jack Smith is funded.
He's interfering in the election.
He's going up to the Supreme Court, trying to interfere in the Supreme Court and create pressure.
So when the Democrats cheat in 24, the Supreme Court will be too scared to take up cases like they were in 2020.
But a lot of this could have been prevented if Kevin defunded Jack Smith, but Kevin didn't want to have that fight.
Kevin didn't want to release the J6 tapes.
And Kevin took a bunch of money and took the Congressional Leadership Fund Pack, which is a whole nother story, but loaded it up with Reid Hoffman and Paul Steiner money and it kind of turned the whole house GOP into a disaster.
And that's why nothing's getting done.
So yeah, I'd love to have a little talk with Kevin, the American people.
Why he's messed up so much and he should definitely explain himself.
He absolutely has.
Let's take a couple more questions before we go and then of course we'll have another episode of Loomer Unleashed this Thursday.
I want to let you all know that Kash Patel has confirmed that he is going to officially come on and next week I believe we're gonna have Richard Grinnell.
Richard Grinnell expressed interest in coming on Loomer Unleashed next week and so that will be interesting.
We'll have Richard Grinnell next Tuesday, I believe, and this Thursday we're going to have Kash Patel on the show.
So, a lot of really high-profile guests.
Loomer unleashes the show.
Everybody's chatting about it.
It is definitely exploding ever since we First launch the show.
President Trump watches Loomer Unleashed.
We know because he clips the clips and puts them on his true social account.
So this is I would say a Trump approved show, right?
I would say we could say that Trump approved show.
Because obviously if it's good enough for Trump, it's good enough for you, right?
The American people.
Somebody said give us an update on Loomer the Bulldog from Pepperoni.
Loomer is doing so much better, you know?
She has some stomach ulcers and stomach issues because I found out she was born without a gallbladder which is why she has so many issues and that's why I guess the acid in her stomach has apparently been burning her stomach lining and it's a very rare thing for a dog to not be born with a gallbladder and so unfortunately Loomer has a lot of gastrointestinal issues and She also has some arthritis now, too.
You know, the Bulldogs only live till about nine or so, and she's about four and a half.
But, you know, she had her surgery.
She kind of wobbles now when she moves, and it's, you know, she has some mobility problems, but overall, like, she's healthy now.
She can eat, and she's doing much better.
She really is, and so I'm really happy because Oh man, I would have been so devastated if I lost her.
She's such a great dog, but you know, she can't really jump as high as she used to as well.
I have to pick her up now and put her on the bed and sometimes on the couch, too, because she has a hard time moving.
And she has Mecca, of course, my little, those are my dogs, my little babies.
Oh, my babies.
My Mecca, the little rescue from China, my Yorkie Poo.
We're going to get a dog cam, though.
We did say that we're going to do that.
Let me ask the producer, what are we getting our dog cam?
We said that we were going to get a dog cam.
Soon, right?
Soon.
Okay, because we did say.
And there's Loomer.
That's a photo I took of her this weekend.
She's so cute.
Yeah.
But, you know, she's doing better.
She'll have some issues, I think, for the rest of her life and trying to find that balance right now for her stomach because she has some issues.
But she's alive and that's what matters most.
It's like having children, even though I don't have children because they're so expensive.
But these dogs, I'll tell you, my God.
These vet bills and like all their specialized food and all their issues and all the visits for like the skin conditions and the stomach conditions.
I feel like I have, I feel like I have two toddlers, honestly.
I don't have children.
I'm not married.
I'm single.
But I really feel like I have two toddlers with how high maintenance these children are.
My children, my little dogs, I call them my children.
Some people would take offense to that, because they're like, oh, dogs are not children, Laura.
But I'm telling you right now, in terms of a financial sense, they are basically children.
They cost me an obscene amount of money, these dogs.
I don't know if any of you have ever had to take your dog to the emergency vet.
I hope you never have to, because it literally will burn a hole into your bank account.
But we do everything for our babies, don't we?
We love our babies.
Somebody said, I love the blue sweater, Laura.
Is that sapphire blue?
It is.
Yes, it is sapphire blue.
I love sapphires.
I'm wearing my sapphire ring.
Sapphires and rubies, my favorite stones, and emeralds, too.
Somebody said, don't bulldogs have nasal issues?
Yes, they have breathing issues, too, which is why it made it hard for her, too, because, you know, she has a hard time breathing.
She's doing better now.
She's doing better.
Very expensive.
Someone said, I have four rescue dogs.
Somebody else said, 500 for an x-ray.
Yeah, it's so crazy, you know?
And they tell you, like, your dog might have cancer.
The only way that we can find out is if we do this x-ray.
And it's like, OK, how much is that going to cost?
$500.
And then we're going to have to, you know, give them this test, and this test, and this test.
And by the time you're done, it's like $2,000.
And you're like, what am I paying for pet insurance for?
Like, if I have to pay all of it up front, you know?
It's totally out of control, the way They try to take all your money when you go to the vet, but yeah, it's really out of control.
Thanks for asking about my dog.
Someone said Cash and Grinnell are good guests.
Yeah, they are good guests, so we'll have a lot of really interesting people on the show in the next step.
Coming episodes as well.
Any last thoughts, Charles?
Because we've been live now for about three hours and of course you're going to be working hard this week.
What other stories are you going to be working on this week for Luma Unleashed?
And, I don't know, what can we expect to see from you this week?
I would pay close attention to the group The Man Justice.
We just put an article out about how Kamala's This is interesting too, how you said the media, we're the only media that kind of covers these angles.
Kamala Harris, most conservative media were like, oh, Kamala Harris hired Hillary Clinton's like, ex-top communications advisor.
Which, yeah, that's part of the story, that's big.
But this guy comes from a group called the Man Justice.
And the Man Justice, for the last few years, has been attempting to pack the Supreme Court.
And they have like serious momentum, so.
Adam Schiff, Cori Bush, Jerry Nadler, the worst of the worst, the scum of the United States Congress.
They're all like major co-sponsors on this bill.
And this organization kind of controls Gavin Newsom.
Gavin Newsom's Secretary of Judicial Activities is on their shortlist for the United States Supreme Court.
And they told Gavin Newsom to appoint someone in late December 2022 to the California Supreme Court and Gavin Newsom did that literally two weeks later, January 2nd, 2023.
So Newsom is working with this group who hired away their president to join Kamala's campaign and Kamala can kind of be vice president for as long as she wants.
There's no term limits.
So it's kind of looking like they're going to set up like a Newsom Kamala ticket and packing the Supreme Court is kind of looking like their main thing so they can get total power.
And threatening the Supreme Court right now with packing it also makes the Supreme Court kind of scared to take up 2024 cases.
If y'all remember in 2020, a lot of people theorized, and I think this is 100% correct, that the riots combined with the court packing threats made the Supreme Court not take up any 2020 election cases because the justices were scared.
That if they overturned the election, what would happen to them the next time they left God power?
And Jack Smith taking this case up to the Supreme Court now and applying the pressure.
Sadly, it's like a win-win for the Democrats.
Either they give Jack Smith what he wants.
Or the Supreme Court doesn't give Jack Smith what he wants.
And then the left, if y'all remember when Chuck Schumer gave that speech, like, we're going to come after you, Kavanaugh.
We're going to come after you, Gorsuch.
And they did, right?
They sent Antifa to their house and Senate Democrats refused to fund security for the Supreme Court justices as this was happening.
And I think they were doing this to get in their thoughts.
Remember in 2024 when we stuffed the ballots and used mail-in voting to cheat.
If y'all want to take cases up to the Supreme Court, we're going to scare the Supreme Court and make sure you don't take the cases again.
So articles like that I think are really important that we're going to be putting out here within the next week on demand justice and what they're doing.
That article's up on bloomberg.com.
We have that article right now about Kamala Harris up on Loomerd.com.
It was just published a couple hours ago, so be sure that you go to Loomerd.com and you'll see right there, Democrats Enhance 2024 Election Interference Efforts with Kamala Harris Hiring of Top Clinton Staffers.
So you can be sure to check that out on Loomerd.com.
You can see there, good article that just came out.
Hillary Clinton's 2016 Press Secretary Brian Fallon was announced as Kamala Harris' Director of Communications for the Biden-Harris re-election campaign.
Following his stint with Hillary, Fallon worked for an organization called Demand Justice.
Demand Justice's purpose is to pressure the United States Supreme Court by threatening the court with court packing, with the idea being the left can bend the Supreme Court to act on its behalf.
Uh, Fallon's announcement came, uh, one day after Jack Smith petitioned the Supreme Court to take up the question of whether Trump or any other president can be prosecuted.
So, we see the play here.
Obviously, this is election interference.
Obviously, collusion between Jack Smith and the Biden, uh, the illegitimate Biden administration.
And now, uh, Hillary Clinton is lending her, her, uh, her puppets from her, uh, failed campaign over to Kamala Harris and Biden.
Really sickening stuff, you guys should check that out.
But with that, we have a lot of really great content coming this week.
Charles, we're going to be overnighting this to you.
It's going to be really wonderful.
Any last words before I let you go?
I'm just excited to get that microphone, but I don't think many politicians in D.C.
are very excited, but I am.
Yeah, they're not excited, but we are.
Where can people follow you?
Aside from Loomerd.com, of course, but where can people follow you on X and any other social media that you're on?
Yeah, definitely give me a follow on X. My account's at thecharlesdowns.
And yeah, like I said, it's a great way to get all these stories out.
You can figure out what's going on.
And yeah, like we've been saying, we cover things that a lot of people don't see coming that you and I see because of our experience within politics.
And once you figure these globalists out, they're pretty easy just to keep calling out.
But we're the only ones, I think, who haven't figured out.
So the crazier they get, I guess, the more we have to enhance our efforts to call them out.
Because we can't have a 2020 repeat in 2024.
Just kidding.
Absolutely.
Yep, you're absolutely correct.
Well, Charles, keep up the great work.
I know that we can expect you to do great things with this microphone that's coming your way.
And I think a lot of people are going to get lumared soon.
So I appreciate all the work that you're doing.
You're doing a great job and we'll see you soon.
Keep it up.
Sounds good.
Talk to y'all soon.
Hopefully.
Some politician will be exposed.
Hopefully you'll have some nice videos for us soon.
Be sure that you follow Charles, you guys.
He does a great job.
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