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Nov. 30, 2023 - Loomer Unleashed - Laura Loomer

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EP13: Gavin Newsom vs. Ron DeSantis LIVE DEBATE COVERAGE with Laura LoomerEP13: Gavin Newsom vs. Ron DeSantis LIVE DEBATE COVERAGE with Laura Loomer

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	Thank you.
	Good evening and welcome to episode 13 of Loomer Unleashed.
	I'm your host, Laura Loomer.
	Tonight on Loomer Unleashed, I will be providing live coverage of the debate between Ron DeSantis and California Governor Gavin Newsom.
	The fact that this debate is occurring at all is quite an interesting curiosity.
	Many of you are probably asking yourselves, why would Ron DeSantis be going out of his way to debate a Democrat while the Republican primary is still underway?
	Better yet, why is Gavin Newsom debating a potential presidential candidate when he himself is not even running?
	Also, why is the media, led by Fox News in this case, propping up this debate with so much fanfare?
	Well, to answer these questions, we need to recognize that we are witnessing the political establishment and their allies in the legacy media at work.
	The reason that DeSantis and Newsom are being propped up is because they are the darlings of the establishment wings of both parties.
	DeSantis was obviously the choice of the Never Trumpers and Rhinos as their fantasy replacement of Donald Trump.
	As the designated inheritor of the MAGA movement, which is what they thought DeSantis was going to be, he was instructed by his uniparty handlers to redirect the GOP base back to the inside of the Corral, where they could once again be controlled by the establishment.
	Remember that the D.C.
	establishment, the media, and the deep state would like nothing more than to put the genie back inside the bottle when it comes to Trump and the America First movement.
	They want to regain control over the rhetoric, over the donations, and over the Overton window.
	Obviously, their plan has been a catastrophic failure so far, as DeSantis' campaign has been an utter disaster from the get-go, in case you haven't noticed.
	His handlers grossly underestimated the GOP base's loyalty to Donald Trump and their willingness to rally behind him in the face of a political witch hunt and weaponized government.
	They also overestimated DeSantis' charisma, or lack of, and how much that is needed in order for someone to be a compelling candidate worthy of anybody's vote.
	As for Gavin Newsom, it is becoming increasingly more obvious that he's being groomed by the DMC to be the emergency replacement for Joe Biden, whether that be tomorrow, maybe it's next week, if Joe Biden falls, hits his head and dies, or maybe it's next year when his approval rating is in the single digits, or possibly even in 2028.
	The Democrat Party as a whole is completely full of mediocrities.
	Aside from Biden, who could they possibly poll to run for president?
	Would they go with Kamala Harris or maybe even Pete Buttigieg?
	Neither are very compelling candidates.
	Would they look to the past for somebody like Hillary Clinton or Michelle Obama to run?
	Possibly.
	That's a theory and many people think so.
	However, Gavin Newsom is just about the only Democrat elected official in the nation who has an ounce of charisma, high name recognition, an ability to fundraise, and a long political career.
	He's also the governor of the largest state in the nation by population, California.
	He has truly been an effective agent for the Democrat Party.
	And when I say effective, I mean effective at destroying the middle class in California and hollowing that state out into a near dystopia.
	California is now split between the uber rich and the poor, working class, with a large population of homeless drug addicts and criminal illegal aliens sprinkled into the mix as well.
	And let's not forget about the sidewalks in California which are covered with HIV infected needles and human feces.
	Mmm, talk about California dreamin'.
	Now, the more you think about it, the more Newsom's candidacy makes sense.
	Ostensibly, he's the perfect candidate for the Democrats.
	He's a middle-aged white dad with a large happy family, or so they want you to think, right?
	As a good-looking man, Gavin Newsom sure has his options when it comes to women.
	And as we've all learned, Gavin Newsom has a hard time keeping his penis inside his pants, which is well documented from his numerous affairs and cheating scandals.
	But as they say, perception is reality, and Gavin's wife, or his partner, as she likes to call herself, has stuck by her man, despite his known infidelity.
	He also is the nephew of former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi.
	So, from the outside, Gavin appears totally inoffensive, which isn't often the case with the left anymore.
	Compared to the likes of Stacey Abrams, Ilhan Omar, or the thousands of transsexuals, and sometimes even pedophiles, who have now found a home inside the Democratic Party, Newsom appears strikingly normal and clean-cut.
	However, beneath the surface, he's among the most progressive leftists in the nation.
	One who has actively pushed for gun confiscation, late-term abortion, forced vaccinations and mask mandates, open borders and, of course, the trans agenda.
	He's also been increasingly vocal when it comes to foreign policy as of late.
	Just last week, Gavin Newsom, alongside Joe Biden and many of the Democrat Party's largest donors in California, hosted Chinese President-Dictator Xi Jinping in San Francisco, which, of course, was miraculously rinsed clean of all the homeless people, human waste, and heroin needles that normally decorate the city.
	In fact, Gavin Newsom even admitted to the media that the only reason efforts were finally made to clean up San Francisco is because he wanted things to look nice for the communist dictator of China.
	China.
	Again, it is becoming increasingly obvious that Gavin Newsom is flexing his political muscles and testing the waters for a possible run at the White House.
	This begins to explain the curiousness of the debate tonight.
	For Newsom, this is a chance to demonstrate his polished debate skills and potentially further humiliate an already nationally embarrassed Ron DeSantis who's currently polling at single digits.
	It's a win-win situation for Gavin Newsom.
	Hilariously enough, DeSantis has evidently been hoping to use tonight's debate as an automated external defibrillator.
	That's a mouth load.
	Or otherwise known as an AED to jumpstart his flatlined campaign.
	In fact, he's been squabbling with Newsom and Fox News all week over the inclusion of a live audience.
	DeSantis clearly wants to create a cheer situation or a please clap, right, if you remember Jeb Bush, by stuffing the audience with his supporters who will obviously be hostile towards Gavin Newsom.
	Apparently, DeSantis believes the optics of a single cheering crowd will be enough to rescue his nearly submerged campaign.
	Unfortunately, though, for Ron DeSantis, it appears that the same establishment handlers who coaxed him to run for president in the first place are now jumping ship.
	Their new candidate of choice and their new shiny object is Nikki Haley, the darling warmongering bureaucrat of the Deep State.
	As everyone who watches this show should know, Haley is easily the worst candidate to toss their name into the ring during this presidential GOP primary season.
	Aside from Ron DeSanctimonious, of course.
	Haley is an America-less politician through and through, beholden to the United Nations and defense contractors like Boeing.
	For the record, Nikki Haley was once given a cushy seat on the board of Boeing, which is a common practice to keep politicians in the corporation's pockets.
	You see, Nikki Haley is the perfect embodiment of everything that has been wrong with the Republican Party for the last few decades.
	And that is precisely why the establishment and the donor class have flocked to her in recent weeks.
	Just a few days ago, the Koch Network, one of the largest GOP neocon donor groups, otherwise known as the Koch Brothers, right?
	They announced that they would be funding and endorsing Nikki Haley as opposed to Ron DeSantis going forward.
	And as I exclusively reported this week in a report that was shared by President Trump on his True Social account, even former Hillary Clinton donors and wealthy Democrats like JPMorgan Chair Jamie Dimon have begun to rally behind Nikki Haley's campaign in a last-ditch effort to stop Donald Trump.
	So, as we watch tonight's debate, we will witness a failed candidate in Ron DeSantis, and we will see him continue to lose support.
	And tonight we will also see a communist governor, Gavin Newsom, be further positioned as a potential replacement for Joe Biden.
	Essentially what this debate is tonight is a glimpse into the political machine of the political DC elitist uniparty establishment that is frantically and actively seeking an answer to stop Donald Trump and replace Sleepy Joe.
	Unfortunately for the Uniparty, they still haven't figured out that there is no stopping Donald Trump, and there is no stopping the MAGA movement.
	There is a young female journalist, conservative journalist, by the name of Laura Lummer.
	If America's men acted like Laura Lummer, our problems would be fixed in about five minutes.
	Chained herself to Twitter?
	Chanders. Chanders.
	Chanders.
	Chanders.
	So thank you to everybody who's tuning in tonight.
	Welcome to episode 13 of Loomer Unleashed.
	I'm Laura Loomer, of course, and tonight's gonna be so much fun, okay?
	We're having a debate watch party, and, you know, some of you were asking me, and you were tweeting, and you were like, you know, what the hell is this debate even for?
	Is Ron DeSantis really serious?
	I mean, this guy is running.
	He's pulling it 8% nationally right now.
	Okay, Donald Trump is kicking his ass.
	Obviously, we all know that.
	So why is he debating Gavin Newsom?
	Everybody thinks that this debate is going to be absolutely ridiculous and people have just been wondering why does Gavin Newsom... Why is Gavin Newsom debating Ron DeSantis?
	Even Gavin Newsom said...
	Deshaun Hannity, when he attended the second GOP presidential debate in Simi Valley, California, that he thought that Ron DeSantis was out of his league.
	OK, he was mocking him and saying that he doesn't understand why this guy who is pulling behind Donald Trump thinks that he can debate Gavin Newsom, of all people.
	So it's going to be really interesting because Ron DeSantis has been promoting this thing like it's WWE or something.
	I mean, you would think that this was like a major sporting event in the way that Ron DeSantis and his team have been have been hyping it up.
	And it's really sad and pathetic because they actually think right.
	Like Ron DeSantis actually is under the impression that this.
	Debate is going to inject life into his flatlined campaign, okay?
	I'm calling this debate Ron DeSantis's Fantasy AED because his campaign is dead and he's really honestly hoping tonight that it's going to be able to spark his campaign back up, but I don't really think that's going to be the case.
	It's really funny because the debate goes live at nine o'clock and we have the stream pulled up, so we're going to be able to watch it here on the Luma Unleashed Jumbo TV screen.
	And you'll be able to hear it and I'll be providing my live commentary tonight.
	We're also going to be playing a little game.
	I wanted to show you some of the little goodies that I have after we show this statement.
	So take a look.
	Take a look at this statement.
	Take a look at this statement that President Trump's campaign just put out right before this debate tonight.
	It says, kiss of death, alright?
	Kiss of death, Ron DeSantis is thirsty AF, okay?
	And for those of you who don't know what AF is, AF is as fuck, right?
	So, sorry for the language, but that's what it means.
	Let's get it back on full screen for everybody.
	See if we can get it up on the TV here, too.
	But you can see Kiss of Death for Ron DeSantis, who is thirsty AF.
	It's a really funny statement released by Stephen Chung, who of course is Oh, the communications director for President Trump.
	It says, Ron DeSanctimonious is acting more like a thirsty third-rate OnlyFans wannabe model than an actual presidential candidate.
	Okay?
	Instead of actually campaigning and trying to turn around his dismal poll numbers, DeSanctus is now desperate for attention.
	He's so desperate for attention that he's debating a grade-A loser like Gavin Newsom.
	So, you know, it's...
	Really funny.
	I think this is probably the first time that we've ever seen OnlyFans get mentioned in a presidential debate.
	At the debate, Ron will flail his arms and bobble his head wildly.
	Right?
	We all know he's a bobblehead.
	Looking more like a San Francisco crackhead than a governor of Florida.
	This isn't a prediction, it's a spoiler.
	Yes, that is true.
	We were going to have a crackhead governor in the form of Andrew Gillum, who of course was the closeted gay black homosexual who was caught having sex with a gay porn star performer in a hotel room in Miami Beach, cheating on his wife with gay men.
	You know, speaking of Tallahassee and speaking of just all these politicians from Tallahassee, I'm honestly convinced that there's like some secret underground sex cult in Tallahassee or within the Florida Republican Party because I'm sure some of you guys saw the story today about Christian Ziegler, the chairman of the Florida GOP.
	You know, I guess he and his wife are being investigated right now.
	And, you know, there's an investigation into what they're calling sexual battery, something along the lines of him and his wife having a threesome with some woman who then said that they were secretly recording her.
	I don't know.
	Look, this was what came out today in the news.
	But it is kind of interesting, right?
	So we apparently dodged a crackhead governor only to get somebody like Ron DeSantis, who has the mannerisms and the facial expressions And just kind of the twitches and the social anxiety of somebody who would be an actual crack addict.
	I don't really know how much better we are off here in the so-called free state of Florida.
	Here's this story before we get started tonight.
	There's just so much that happened today, but I don't know, there's just not enough time to go through everything.
	I was telling the producer earlier, I was like, oh my god, there's so much that happened today between Nikki Haley and the debate and the chairman of the Florida GOP and all these sex scandals.
	It's just...
	Too many sex scandals and not enough hours in the day to cover all these degenerate politicians, you guys.
	So, Florida GOP chair, husband of Moms4Liberty co-founder, that's Bridget Ziegler, of course, who was appointed to oversee the, well, she was put on the board by Ron DeSantis for the Reedy Creek board in Disney.
	I remember when Ron DeSantis said, oh, I'm going to take over the board and I'm going to put all these people on, yada, yada, yada, yada, so.
	I'm a parental rights advocate.
	Get the trannies and the homos out of the schools.
	We can't have them talking about butt plugs.
	We can't have... We can't have them talking about having thropples.
	Bisexual thropples, you guys.
	This is so sexually degenerate.
	But I'm going to appoint somebody who apparently is in a secret bisexual thropple arrangement.
	I mean, honestly, this is like the stuff I exposed last week with Cord Bird, the Florida Secretary of State, okay?
	And I wish I was making this up, you guys, but I'm not.
	And this is why people don't take the Republicans seriously when they try to talk about the sexualization of children.
	Obviously, we all agree that it's wrong to sexualize kids, but when you have representatives who are appointed by Ron DeSantis and they're serving on the Board of Education, like Esther Bird, the wife of the Secretary of State of Florida, Cord Bird, who apparently was divorced and She tried to sue her ex-husband to avoid paying child support, and in these documents from her divorce records, which I pulled up, it said that she had extramarital affairs, okay?
	She lets at least ten men go inside of her, okay?
	Ten men!
	Put their penises inside of her while she was married to this husband and I don't know if they were having like fertility issues and then she just decided to be spiteful because you know her first husband couldn't get her pregnant and so she just decided to go like emasculate him by getting You know, 10 guys to ejaculate inside of her.
	I don't know.
	It's very graphic, right?
	But this is literally in her divorce record, and this is the lady who Ron DeSantis appointed to oversee one of the positions on the board of the Florida Department of Education.
	She sued her ex-husband so that she didn't have to pay him child support, even though he was willing, right?
	Like, most guys... Some guys will, like, get a girl knocked up, and then they'll say, oh, it's not mine, right?
	And then you have to take them to court, and they take a paternity test, and then they're paying you child support.
	This guy apparently wanted to raise the kid, even though she told him, oh, I don't want to pay you child support because I slept with 10 guys when we were married and the kid might not even be yours.
	That should be a disqualifying factor.
	I mean, you don't want somebody that trashy being around children or being on the board of, uh, the board of education in Florida, but she's a member of Moms4Liberty.
	I'm not a fan of Moms4Liberty, okay?
	Shoutout to Moms4America that actually endorsed Donald Trump this week.
	Moms4Liberty is a bit of a grifter organization as far as I'm concerned, okay?
	They like to pretend like they're actually doing something to fight for parental rights and to help kids, but, you know, lookit, they have Bridget Ziegler, they have Cord Bird's wife Esther Bird, they're tied to Casey DeSantis.
	It's just a grassroots operation to help Ron DeSantis get elected.
	I'm really not a fan.
	So anyway, his wife who's involved in this apparently, like, the allegations, you can scroll up in the article.
	Republican Party of Florida Chairman Christian Ziegler is under investigation for the alleged rape of a woman that he and his wife had a menage a trois with.
	So, I don't know.
	I don't know if Christian Ziegler's wife is like a closet bisexual and, you know, they're just hiding it from the public and then they're entertaining her bisexual tendencies with With some woman that they both decided to have sex with and then allegedly filmed, right?
	The woman who has accused them of sexual battery has said that she believes that she was being secretly recorded while she was having sex with Christian Ziegler and his wife.
	So, hey guys!
	We can't talk about butt plugs!
	We can't talk about the trannies and the homosexuals in the Florida public school system!
	But my wife and I are going to allegedly have bisexual threesomes and, you know, Don't ask us about it.
	Ron DeSantis is going to have swingers and appoint swingers for the positions of the Sheriff of Broward County, as we saw with Gregory Toney.
	And no, I'm not being facetious.
	I'm not being hyperbolic.
	This is all real.
	You saw the swingers for DeSantis story that I broke several months ago with the Walters, who, you know, were on video for Christmas in July, dressed in Secret Santa outfits, talking about how they want to You know, suck a bunch of penis, right?
	Like, give a bunch of oral sex.
	And I'm not trying to sound super graphic tonight on the show, but these are the people who are overseeing the Florida, Florida GOP, right?
	Like, it's a bunch of debauchery and corruption.
	And I showed you the other day on the last episode when we talked about the dead body that was found inside Ron DeSantis' office, right?
	The chief election crime officer, Peter Antonacci, who many people feel now was murdered inside Ron DeSantis' office.
	You see, this is all real, guys.
	I'm not making this up.
	And I'm gonna be releasing another investigative report into Gregory Toney, who is, of course, the sheriff of Broward County, who was appointed by Ron DeSantis.
	Scroll up.
	These are the wild photos of Florida Sheriff Gregory Toney.
	This came out, like, two years ago, okay?
	This is not new news, but Ron DeSantis appointed this guy, okay?
	After Parkland, and he's refused to remove him, so...
	Why is it that there's so many dead bodies, hookers, swingers, sex scandals, and accusations of money laundering that surround the Florida GOP?
	And the answer is, under Ron DeSantis, the Florida GOP has been plagued with corruption.
	It's disgusting.
	It's a cesspool.
	And if Ron DeSantis is going to get on this debate stage tonight and say that the Florida blueprint or the Florida model is how he wants to run America, which is why he's running to be the president of the United States of America, I am here to say, hell no!
	I don't want to have that type of sexual debauchery and that type of immorality in the White House.
	We don't need that.
	We don't need that in the White House, okay?
	We're not gonna save America by putting the corrupt blueprint of the Florida GOP into the White House.
	So you're gonna see him huffing and puffing tonight, and he's gonna say, Oh, Florida is where woke goes to die.
	Does this look like where woke goes to die to you?
	When the governor is appointing swingers, okay, and inviting hookers and escorts to sit with him and be his special guest at his donor retreats, okay?
	I don't think so!
	I don't think so.
	That's not the definition of where woke goes to die.
	You don't just get to criticize the left and call people out for sexual debauchery and, you know, talk about the trannies and the homosexuals and talk about how we need to stop sexualizing kids and then participate in the same behavior.
	Scroll down.
	This is one of DeSantis' appointees.
	Look at this photo.
	Look at this.
	Look at it.
	Tits out.
	Ass out.
	Penis out.
	Look at this.
	That's Gregory Tony.
	That's who was appointed by Ron DeSantis.
	Scroll up.
	Let's see those titty pics, right?
	Look at that!
	Those are his photos.
	And Ron DeSantis has not removed this guy.
	It's not a conspiracy theory, you guys.
	This is real.
	I'm sorry, I know that this is a family show, so if you're watching with your kids and you're seeing this at home, your kids need to know about this too, because they need to know how corrupt and phony these politicians are.
	And you need to be aware that the people that are saying that they're here to fight the predators in our schools, that they're here to fight the predators in the Democrat Party, are behaving in ways that are predatorial themselves.
	And so I just think it's hypocrisy.
	Here's the video right here, okay?
	Here's the video of the secret sexy Santa.
	Scroll up.
	Let people see it.
	This was, uh, scroll up so people can... Exclusive video.
	This was posted back in July, I believe.
	I posted this when I was in Spain.
	Yeah, I wasn't even in Florida.
	See, I nuke around DeSantis' even when I'm overseas.
	Right?
	When I was visiting my good friend, Tommy Robinson.
	I have exclusively obtained this video of top DeSantis bundler, Brooke Waltzer.
	It appears that Brooke worked for, or works for, Vixen's Cabaret.
	A South Florida strip club that she and her husband Rich Walter appear to frequent according to photos I've obtained.
	Okay?
	In this photo, or in this promo video for Vixen's Cabaret, Brooke, seen on the far left, and the other women in the video are dressed as sexy Santas.
	Ooh!
	For Vixen's Christmas in July promotion.
	They're dancing to All I Want, you know, the All I Want for Christmas song.
	It's actually a good song.
	I like it.
	I'll be honest, I'm Jewish, but I do like Christmas music.
	I enjoy Mariah Carey, All I Want for Christmas is You, okay?
	It is a cute little song, I will admit.
	You know, it's like, I think it's a Christmas classic.
	I like it.
	I know some people don't like Mariah Carey, but I think she has a nice voice, and I like that song.
	So, It says they're dancing to All I Want for Christmas, which then transitions to the words, Your Dick, right?
	So, imagine, all I want for Christmas is, and then, it's very raunchy.
	We're gonna play the video so that you can see it, but this is who Ron DeSantis and his wife, Casey Jill, or Jill Casey, that's her real name, had with them when Ron DeSantis launched his campaign.
	When they first kicked off the campaign, this is who was sitting next to him, And we have the photos, and she's been photographed with Chip Roy as well.
	Why am I showing you this, right?
	You could scroll down.
	Because I tagged all these people, right?
	Like Bob Vander Plaats, Glenn Beck, Steve Dees, Kim Reynolds.
	This was back in July when I tagged all these people.
	You know, in Iowa, Bob Vander Plaats just endorsed Ron DeSantis, and they're talking about how, oh, he's the Christian candidate.
	He's the one that has family values.
	Does this look like family values to you?
	I'm sorry.
	Does this look like family values when you have a bunch of hookers that are talking about how they want to, you know, entice a bunch of men to come into the strip club so they can give them some blowjobs?
	Does it look like Christian family values to you when you have a swinger being appointed to oversee the Broward County Sheriff's Office in the aftermath of the Parkland shooting?
	Remember that?
	I don't think so.
	It's graphic, and I know it sounds really vulgar, but you need to hear the vulgarity because you need to understand what a phony Ron DeSantis is when he gets on that debate stage tonight with Gavin Newsom.
	I do not like Gavin Newsom.
	I am not in support of his communist policies.
	I will never vote for a Democrat.
	I have been a registered Republican my entire life, and I look forward to burning my Republican voter registration card after I get to vote for Donald Trump because I don't like the Republican Party.
	I equally do not like the Democrat Party.
	So I'm not, I know the DeSantis people, their IQs are so low that they were saying, oh, Laura Loomer is cheering for Ron DeSantis to lose to Gavin Newsom.
	She's defending Gavin Newsom.
	No.
	I am looking forward to people seeing what we're up against in the Republican Party and why Ron DeSantis is an amateur, okay?
	Gavin Newsom is a seasoned politician.
	This is Nancy Pelosi's nephew.
	This is the governor of the largest state in the nation.
	OK, and he has been able to skirt a recall after forcing vaccines and mandates on people.
	And you only do that when you are a skilled politician and you're able to evade scandals.
	This is a man who slept with his chief of staff's wife while he was the mayor of San Francisco and has been allegedly caught in clubs doing cocaine and having affairs with prostitutes, As the reporting in San Francisco has shown us over the last few years.
	He has openly cheated on his wife, who he sent out to have sex with Harvey Weinstein to get campaign donations when he was running for governor.
	This is all real.
	I'm not making this up.
	You can look this up yourself and see it, okay?
	When she testified in the Harvey Weinstein trial and said that he raped her, She was one of the only people that the jury didn't believe because after he apparently raped her, Harvey Weinstein, she went back for seconds and thirds because she was getting campaign donations for her husband.
	That's pretty gross, right?
	Gavin Newsom has been able to avoid being unseated through all of these scandals, and he is able to withstand controversy and pivot, okay?
	And deflect.
	He's also a numbers guy, and you're gonna see tonight why this debate is taking place, because it's not about Ron DeSantis No, this is the Democrats' opportunity to start talking about, you know, Gavin Newsom is so well-spoken.
	He's so much younger and lively than Joe Biden.
	Wow, he's really so eloquent.
	It's a really refreshing thing to see, aside from the gaffe machine known as Joe Biden.
	You may have noticed the Democrats and the Republicans on MSNBC, CNN, NBC, whatever, take your pick, right?
	They're all singing the same tune right now.
	Wow, looks like President Trump is beating Joe Biden in all key swing states.
	Wow, Joe Biden is a gaffe machine.
	I just saw Chris Cuomo the other day actually on a Patrick Bette Davis show talking about this same thing, how Joe Biden is a gaffe machine.
	You have Elon Musk yesterday saying that he wasn't going to vote for Joe Biden.
	You have Tucker Carlson who just came out on the Roseanne Barr Show and said he's voting for Donald Trump.
	The writing is on the wall and the momentum is heading towards a increased trajectory for Trump 2024.
	As I said in the monologue tonight, there's no stopping Donald Trump.
	So as I said in the last episode, right, about all the assassination porn, they're either going to kill Donald Trump, try to kill Donald Trump, or they're going to have to somehow find a way to transition Biden with Gavin Newsom.
	And that's what the purpose of this debate tonight is.
	They know that Biden is unlikable.
	They know that Joe Biden is unpopular.
	They know that he is old, senile, and quite frankly, even Democrats are getting sick of his crap.
	You even have members of BLM, right, which has notoriously been anti-Trump.
	Now all of a sudden we can get that article pulled up.
	There was a BLM member that came out and said that they're done with the Democrat Party because they think they're racist.
	Okay, you have black Americans who are now supporting Trump over the Democrats because they're so pissed off that black people now In cities who are on government assistance, not all of them, but some of them are, are being shafted for illegal aliens in major metropolitan cities, right?
	And so now they're turning on the Democrat Party because the blacks in this country are like, wait a second.
	And I'm not saying all blacks are on government assistance before someone like Media Matters clips this and says, oh, Laura Loomer says all blacks are on government assistance and welfare.
	No.
	A lot of blacks in this country have voted Democrat, right, because they think that the Democrats have convinced them that somehow they're the party that's fighting racism, when in reality the Democrats are the racists.
	And you see now BLM leader endorses Trump for 2024, accuses Dems of racist policies were not stupid.
	So scroll down.
	Mark Fisher told Lawrence Jones the Democrat Party is not for the black community.
	I think we have the clip here to pulled up of gap of Tucker Carlson on Roseanne show saying why he's going to be supporting.
	I think we could get that pulled up.
	We should have that clip.
	Yep, right there.
	We'll get that pulled up in a second so you can see it.
	Let's play the clip of Tucker Carlson telling Roseanne Barr believe today why he's voting for Trump.
	And so I'm voting for Trump and if they convict him, I will send him the max donations and I will lead protests.
	That's how I feel.
	Look, everybody's voting for Trump, even Fox News, which has been notoriously anti-Trump, okay?
	They sent Lawrence Jones, speaking of Lawrence Jones, right?
	They sent Lawrence Jones to Georgia.
	They sent Lawrence Jones to Georgia ahead of the debate today, and the debate is about to start in about 10 minutes, and so we're going to go.
	We have the live feed of Fox pulled up, and so we'll do some, a little bit of pre-debate as well, so that we can listen into the feed and see what people are saying, but This is a clip of Lawrence Jones today in Georgia, in a diner, asking people ahead of the debate with Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis who they're going to vote for.
	I mean, Ron DeSantis is totally delusional, but it's just, it's so funny because we know that Rupert Murdoch told Ron DeSantis originally that he was going to back him 100%, so it just is such a middle finger F you to Rupert Murdoch.
	Who's just disgusting, right?
	And we already know that he gave Ron DeSantis the book deal through HarperCollins Publishing, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who of course owns News Corp, New York Post, Wall Street Journal, and Fox News.
	So, just take a listen to this.
	This is just so funny to me because you have these reporters go in and they just, they're so brainwashed.
	They really honestly believe the bullshit that they're saying to people.
	They really honestly think that people like Ron DeSantis.
	And they cannot understand why people are not giving up on Trump, okay?
	So, take a listen to this clip because I just, I laughed my ass off when I watched this today because how many times is Fox News going to embarrass themselves?
	I don't know who has a bigger humiliation fetish or has a bigger desire to carry out these humiliation rituals.
	Is it Ron DeSantis or Rupert Murdoch?
	Play the clip.
	Who do you think is gonna win this election?
	Trump.
	What about you, sir?
	Trump.
	And what about you, sir?
	Donald Trump.
	Ditto.
	Ditto?
	What about you?
	Same.
	You think Donald Trump's gonna win?
	Yes, sir.
	I think so, too.
	So, of course, we're in Georgia, and it's pretty much Trump country, so I'm not surprised that you got a lot of folks that feel like Donald Trump is gonna win.
	So... I mean, nobody said DeSantis.
	Nobody wants DeSantis, okay?
	Nobody.
	It's just so embarrassing.
	Anyway, let's get the debate bingo up on the screen because I want everybody to see this.
	So a couple months ago when President Trump When President Trump said he wasn't going to attend the debate, okay, his campaign came out with Rhonda St.
	Demonia's debate night bingo.
	And so we're gonna play this tonight anyway because I think it's still applicable and relevant, especially to this.
	But also, too, we got some goodies tonight, alright?
	We got the snack pack Chocolate super size 60% more because Donald Trump is currently 60 points ahead of Ron DeSantis so we decided to go with the 60% more super pack size and we're gonna eat some chocolate pudding tonight because I'm sure you know that Ron DeSantis is
	One of his little nervous tics is he eats chocolate pudding with his hands when he gets nervous, and one of the first attack ads that President Trump's PAC put out, and we have that here tonight, we'll play it for you, was an ad called Pudding Fingers, a really great ad.
	And so, we have some games we're playing tonight, and I need to look at the rules because I typed them out, so I want to make sure that I actually follow the rules of this debate.
	Get the bingo up on the full screen so people can see that again.
	And this is what we're going to do.
	All right?
	We had an Italian restaurant cater some meatballs, and we had Italian, so I ate veal piccata before coming on, right?
	I ate my dinner, veal piccata, but then I also had them bring meatballs for the studio, because this is our debate watch party, and we all know we call a meatball Ron, right?
	We call a meatball Ron for a reason, so...
	Every single time that Ron DeSantis bobbles his head, because we know that he's got, like, this nervous tick, right?
	Where he, like, bobbles his head like a bobblehead, and he's very bizarre.
	I'm gonna take a bite of chocolate pudding.
	And you're gonna have to watch to see if I use my fingers, or if I use a spoon, or maybe I'll just, like, you know, mouth dive it.
	I don't know.
	I'll be a trooper tonight.
	Every single time that Ron DeSantis says, Free State of Florida, I'm going to take a bite of a meatball.
	And I got my meatballs here.
	Got my fork and my spoon.
	My chocolate pudding.
	This looks really good.
	I'm excited.
	And here's my meatballs.
	These are some giant meatballs, you guys.
	Look at this.
	Check the size of these meatballs out.
	That is a big meatball.
	But listen, I'm going to wait.
	I really want to eat it right now because it looks delicious.
	But I have to follow these rules.
	So if you want to order Italian and follow along, or you want to go out and get some Conagra snack pack chocolate puddings, right?
	Get the super size, fun size.
	We're having fun with Ron DeSantis tonight, right?
	I'm a fun-sized kind of girl.
	I wanted to get the fun-sized, super-sized snack pack.
	That's what we're doing tonight.
	So, we know that he's going to talk about, oh, revival versus decline, right?
	We have Ron DeSantis' poster, I know, from how he was promoting this debate tonight on his own Twitter account.
	He's like, oh, revival versus decline.
	Like, he really honestly thinks that Florida is so much better than California, which it's really not, because as I've been exposing, we have a homeowner insurance crisis, we have all types of crises.
	I'm sure that we can find the tweet of Rhonda Santa saying revival versus decline and pull it up on the screen here somewhere.
	But those are the rules for tonight.
	So I'm going to play along.
	We've got some little cards to some little coins to to put on my little bingo card.
	And you can order some meatballs if you want and get some chocolate pudding.
	And that's what we're going to do.
	So in the meantime, did we find that?
	Did we find that tweet?
	We can pull that up so you all can see his.
	His tweet.
	All right.
	Here we go.
	Here we go.
	Decline is a choice and success is attainable.
	As president, I... Oh, get that back up.
	I will lead America's revival.
	I look forward to the opportunity to debate Gavin Newsom over our very different visions for the future of our country, right?
	And you can show that he has an ad there as well that he put together.
	So, we'll see.
	I don't know.
	I live in Florida.
	Things aren't that great, right?
	We have record high inflation here as well.
	The highest homeowner insurance rates in the nation.
	It's not that great.
	So, let's pull up the Fox News.
	Actually, let's look at the chat really quick before we go live, because I wanna see what people think.
	Do you guys, oh, we're live right now, so please be sure that you share this link.
	We gotta share it, we gotta get this live right now.
	Let me repost it again.
	Do me a favor, go on your X account and post it live so that we can get it all posted.
	And I'm gonna post it right now with you guys while I'm here right now.
	We have about six minutes.
	Let's see.
	Tweeting this out.
	You guys are all gonna get the X notifications.
	If you're not already following me on X, by the way, be sure that you're following me and repost the live link for this.
	Press 1 in the chat if you like the chocolate pudding.
	And the meatballs tonight, or if you like this game, or if you're going to be playing along.
	If you go online and you type in Ronda St.
	Demonia's Debate Night Bingo, you can find the Trump Debate Night Bingo game, too, and you can play along at home with your family.
	So, we're going to open these pudding cups now, because I have a feeling I'm going to be eating a lot of pudding.
	Actually, you know, I think that Ron DeSantis is going to bobble his head and talk about the free state of Florida so much, I had them get me extra pudding cups.
	I said, you guys!
	I might have to, I don't know if they have like Narcan for pudding overdoses, but we might need to get some because look at all this pudding, you guys.
	Snack packs here, snack packs everywhere.
	Put this up right here tonight so you guys can see it.
	We got chocolate.
	Let's see, what other flavors did you guys get me?
	We got vanilla as well.
	I've got some vanilla pudding.
	But Ron likes chocolate, right?
	So we're gonna go with the chocolate.
	But in case I eat all the chocolate tonight, let's see what else we got.
	Vanilla.
	And then I think there's also another flavor as well.
	I think they got me caramel.
	Let's see.
	Pretty sure I do have caramel as well.
	Yes, I do.
	Oh no, it's butterscotch!
	It's butterscotch.
	So we have butterscotch, vanilla, and chocolate pudding, you guys.
	This is amazing.
	All the pudding in the world here, you guys.
	I love my snack packs.
	I like chocolate, so I'm probably gonna go with the chocolate, but I just wanted you all to see how dedicated we are here.
	Okay, love the pudding cups and snack packs.
	Love the bingo game.
	Scroll up.
	Let's see what people are saying.
	Cue the Prima song.
	Oh, let's see.
	He's a bobblehead.
	Laura, you absolutely rock.
	You guys, be sure that you post the live link as well.
	And also, be sure that you click Get Loomer'd at the bottom of my Rumble channel.
	You have to download the Rumble app and follow me.
	We're going to be tuning in any moment now.
	Let's get the live feed up.
	Let's see.
	The feed is being interrupted.
	Do a shot of tequila every time he does it.
	I don't drink, you guys.
	I actually don't drink.
	A lot of people don't know this about me, but I don't drink alcohol.
	So this is a sober version of, and we're putting this out right now because some people are saying, where's the link?
	We'll get that posted everywhere.
	So whether you're on my Xtruth or Getter, because I know that not all of you are on Twitter, you can see it.
	So let's put the feed on now and I need a spoon.
	You guys, I need a separate spoon for my pudding, too.
	Well, I guess I have my fork, so I just have one spoon.
	It's okay.
	I might die live on air tonight, you guys, if I have to eat all this pudding.
	I don't know if I can eat this much, so... Let's get ready, because this is about to start any moment now.
	Let's put this live feed up and all of you can hear it.
	DeSantis and Newsom ready to square off.
	See what they're going to say.
	It's on Fox News if you guys want to follow along.
	It's going to start any moment now, but it's going to start any moment, but if you want to watch live and you don't want to watch it on the screen, but you want to listen to my commentary, you can put it on on Fox News or watch the live Fox News stream, but you're probably better off just watching it here.
	You have all of these sort of barriers breaking down.
	We're going to start listening in because it's officially starting in two minutes.
	Take a look at what's going on.
	Tonight is just live reaction and coverage, you guys.
	And I'll be following along on the chat on my phone here so that if you guys have questions, you can ask me.
	I'm going to go along on the chat on my phone here so that if you guys have questions, you can ask me.
	So for those of you who are asking, this is in Georgia.
	Sean Hannity is going to be moderating.
	This is a big opportunity tonight for Ronda Santis.
	He's six weeks away from Iowa.
	They're both struggling for second place right now.
	Nikki Haley's had a...
	All righty.
	So I think this is going to be a very interesting night for him.
	Newsom, you know, their goal for both of them, two governors actually have a lot in common in a lot of ways and a lot different in terms of their philosophy about government, small government, big government.
	But it's going to be very interesting to see them duke it out.
	And I think they're going to have people looking at it saying, why don't I have a choice between these two?
	Why don't we have more options?
	So it's going to be a big night and we're going to watch them duke it out coming up soon.
	Well can't, if you're DeSantis, just say your state's a mess?
	Everyone's leaving, there's homeless everywhere, you had to clean it up for the Chinese.
	Can't you just point to his state and say, what are you doing?
	See, this is the thing, now they're saying, oh, can't you just point to Gavin Newsom's state?
	I already said that tonight in my monologue, as you know.
	I said that in the monologue.
	But the reality is, you guys, is that you're going to see that, yeah, Gavin Newsom has charisma.
	Unlike Ron DeSantis, and so he's going to be able to get away with it.
	I've been preaching to Democrats tonight saying, you have other options out there, I'm waiting in the wings, watch what I can do.
	Well, like I said, he can't be too good, or else there's going to be a civil war.
	Martha, thank you so much.
	Sean Hannity is next.
	Thank you for doing this, Sean.
	All right, guys, we're starting.
	Here we go.
	Bye.
	Ha ha.
	The debate we've all been waiting for.
	So just keep that in mind when you're watching tonight.
	It's a live feed, so it's lagging a bit, but when you're watching this, don't think of, oh, why would anybody want to watch this debate?
	It's so irrelevant.
	It's so stupid.
	No, pay attention because Gavin Newsom is likely going to be the Democrat Party nominee, you guys.
	So we'll get my little bingo coins here too and follow along.
	I don't know why the feed is freezing, but we will get it back on here shortly. but we will get it back on here shortly. - Definitely.
	It's on Fox's end?
	Okay, so this is not on our end, we're told.
	This, my producer is now telling me, is lagging on Fox's end, so their own stream is lagging, so we will see how they're gonna fix this.
	In the meantime, while we're waiting, we'll get that statement from Trump back up, too, because we didn't even get to read the full statement.
	So after he called him an OnlyFans model, he then said, hopefully for Ron, it's a seated debate, so we won't have to mash his foot into his high heels to look taller, but...
	But if not, he'll definitely be on a 12-inch stepstool so he can peek right above the podium.
	In a damning new report exposing Ron for his Chinese ties, he provided tax relief to a federally investigated subsidiary of a Chinese company, according to Florida state government records, despite claiming in the past that his administration had not supported the business.
	Lying Ron or Red Ron, either way, he's a shill for China and a CCP sympathizer who will go to great lengths to protect them.
	A new poll from The Messenger and Harris X further proved none of DeSantis' endorsements from Ken Reynolds or Bob Vander Plaats did anything to help his numbers.
	Ron actually dropped to single digits along with Nikki Birdbrain-Haley while President Trump increased his commanding lead to 68%.
	I think we now have the feedback.
	There's 2021 and 2022.
	Let's get that back up on screen.
	These particular numbers are stark in the state that you lead.
	In the case of you, Governor Newsom, according to the U.S.
	Census, this is where the numbers come from.
	In 2021-2022, California's lost 750,000 residents to other states.
	Governor DeSantis, during that same two-year period, you gained 454,000 residents.
	From other states.
	So, Governor DeSantis, we had a coin toss.
	I was not part of it.
	I missed it.
	But apparently, Governor Newsom, you won the coin toss.
	And you chose to let Governor DeSantis have the first question.
	You will get the last word tonight.
	So I begin with you.
	You know, for Governor Newsom, I will ask, you know, what your response is on this as well.
	What are you... it's a simple question.
	How do you explain this phenomenon?
	Governor, what's going on?
	When I was in the Navy, I got orders to go to Naval Amphibious Base Coronado in Southern California.
	And I was a lifeline Floridian, but I went there and I was like, man, this is one of the most beautiful places on Earth.
	And I think California has more natural advantages than any state in the country.
	You almost have to try to mess California up.
	Yeah, that's what Gavin Newsom has done since he's been governor.
	He's the first governor to ever lose population.
	They actually, at one point, ran out of U-Hauls in the state of California because so many people were leaving.
	Of course he's imposed restrictions on the young people while he's emptying himself from those restrictions and going to the French Laundry while his people were suffering.
	He led the country in school closures, locking kids out of school while he had his own kids in private school In person.
	Now, he's very good at spinning these these tales.
	He's good at being slick and slippery.
	He'll tell a blizzard of lies to be able to try to mask the failures.
	But the reality is they have failed because of his leftist ideology.
	And the choice for America is this.
	What Biden and Harris and Newsom want to do is take the California model and do that nationally.
	In Florida, we showed that conservative principles work.
	This country must choose freedom over failure.
	Governor Newsom, your reaction?
	Well, it's good to be with you, Sean.
	It's nice also to see you in a tie as well tonight.
	Good to be with you, Ron.
	I dressed up for the occasion, Governor.
	No, I'm impressed, and I'm grateful.
	Look, it's an important occasion.
	This is an important conversation, and I think it's important to the folks watching.
	They're probably wondering, what are we actually doing here?
	And I want to answer that very directly.
	I'll tell you why I'm here.
	I'm here to tell the truth about the Biden-Harris record and also compare and contrast Ron DeSantis' record and the Republican Party's record as a point of contrast that's as different as daylight and darkness.
	You want to bring us back to a pre-1960s world.
	America in reverse.
	You want to roll back hard-earned national rights, on voting rights, on civil rights, on LGBTQ rights, on women's rights.
	Not just access to abortion, but also access to contraception.
	You want to weaponize grievance.
	You are focusing on false separateness.
	You in particular, Ron, are on a banning binge, a cultural purge, intimidating and humiliating people you disagree with.
	You and President Trump are really trying to light democracy on fire.
	So, Sean, there are profound differences tonight, and I look forward to engaging them, but there's one thing, in closing, That we have in common is neither of us will be the nominee for our party in 2024.
	Governor, great opening statement, but it did not address the issue.
	Can you explain this migration out of California and going to Red State?
	You mean the last two years more Floridians going to California than Californians going to Florida?
	That's going to be fun to fact check, so we'll just start right there.
	California has no peers.
	California dominates.
	Size of 21 state populations combined.
	It's the fifth largest economy in the world.
	We dominate.
	Number one manufacturing state.
	We dominate in two-way trade and research and development.
	Access to innovation.
	More scientists, more researchers, more engineers, more Nobel laureates in the state of California than any other state in the nation.
	The finest system of higher education.
	It's the birthplace of life science and biotech and nanotechnology.
	We dominate in green tech.
	We dominate in high tech.
	We dominate in artificial intelligence.
	So with respect, I think it's an interesting campaign strategy for Ron DeSantis to be bashing a state of 40 million Americans when California simply has no peers.
	Well, that's a pretty slick way of not answering your question.
	He went on a binge of putting out a lot of left-wing platitudes.
	Here's what I would say.
	I talked to a lot of the people that have moved from California to Florida, and we never used to get people from California to Florida, or really anywhere in the East Coast.
	Why would you leave California?
	It's got the best weather, great natural forces.
	Excuse me, sir.
	But one of the things that I did, I was talking to a gentleman, a couple... Guys, guys, I'm going to let the debate breathe, but it's his turn.
	Let's take turns.
	So I was talking to a fella who had made the move from California to Florida, and he was telling me that Florida is much better governed, safer, better budget, lower taxes, all this stuff.
	And he's really happy with the quality of life.
	And then he paused and he said, you know, by the way, I'm Gavin Newsom's father-in-law.
	So we do count Gavin's in-laws as some of the people that have fled California and come to the state of Florida.
	And why are we, why are we getting people to come?
	We have a 50-year low in the crime rate.
	You don't see, in the last 10 years, we've had a 45% decline in homelessness.
	California's had a 45% increase in homelessness.
	Actually, that's not true.
	There's actually a very large homeless encampment behind Disney World, believe it or not, and there's a lot of homelessness and a lot of crime in the state of Florida.
	for standing for law enforcement because we don't get that support in the state of California.
	So people understand quality of life matters.
	They understand that Florida is doing it right.
	And I can tell you the numbers speak for themselves.
	People are having to flee Florida because they can't afford to have a quality of life here because of DeSantis' ridiculous increase in home insurance premiums.
	Let me bring up coming to California the other way around the last two years.
	Let's talk about crime.
	So, Governor, wait a minute.
	Hold on a second.
	He's said a lot of things that were factually untrue, including that 50-year crime law, which his own law enforcement team said should not be using.
	You have yet to address the issue, but I asked you twice, you don't want to answer it, but the issue of why the migration out of red states, I'm sorry, out of blue states.
	We just established more Floridians coming to California in the last two years.
	Overall, you had a net loss of seven.
	You didn't establish it, you just asserted it.
	It's a fact.
	No, it's not a fact.
	It is a fact.
	Moving on, let's go.
	Your states have vastly different income tax rates.
	Okay?
	It is what it is.
	These are the facts.
	California's highest rate for top earners, 13%.
	Married couple, for example, in California, earning a medium income of $84,000, they have a 6% income tax in the state of California.
	Florida's income tax rate is 0% across all salaries, but it goes beyond income taxes.
	Property taxes are lower in California, but everything else is higher.
	Let's take a look at the numbers.
	These are the facts.
	The average property tax in California, 0.75%.
	Florida, 0.91%.
	Absolutely.
	Sales tax, California, 7.25 percent.
	Florida, 6 percent.
	Gas tax rate, California, 77 cents a gallon.
	That is a low estimate.
	It's up to a dollar when you include mandatory fees.
	And in Florida, it's 35 cents.
	Corporate income tax, California, 8.84 percent.
	Florida, 5.5 percent.
	Governor Newsom, this is your question.
	Let me ask you.
	Obviously, you support a different philosophy, which is higher taxes.
	Yes.
	No, hold on.
	WE HAVE A TAX QUESTION, This is a very different approach, and I agree with you completely.
	He has one of the most regressive tax rates in the United States of America.
	It's the number three most regressive state in America.
	And what that means is simply this.
	Who does he tax?
	He taxes low-income workers more than we tax millionaires and billionaires in the state of California.
	The question is a simple one.
	Who, Ron, are you for?
	It's a factual lie that the state of California is high tax, has the highest tax rate, but for whom?
	And it's a foundational and fundamental difference.
	You look at states like Texas, overwhelming majority of Texans pay more taxes than the state of California.
	So again, it's who you're for.
	And I think those values matter.
	And I appreciate you bringing up the issue of taxes.
	How many people leave Florida to go to California because they pay less taxes?
	I've not seen that.
	Are people going to from Florida to do it?
	Well, what about homeowner insurance rates?
	What are the homeowner insurance rates in California?
	We don't even have an income tax.
	And yet California has a higher sales tax than we do.
	And that's one of the things that we do.
	But here's the thing.
	And I'll give Gavin credit.
	He did at least admit in his first answer, he's joined at the hip with Biden and Harris.
	He said Floridians We have to put Floridians on the bingo card.
	Because the economy is working because of their policies for Americans, and they are not.
	And so what California represents is the Biden-Harris agenda on steroids.
	They would love nothing more than to get four more years to be able to take the California model nationally.
	That would be disastrous for working people.
	Well, let's talk about working people.
	They pay more in your state than the state of California charges for billionaires and millionaires.
	And it's just a value proposition.
	It's a fact.
	Again, you can't make these things up.
	You have six or seven dollar a gallon gas.
	How do they afford that?
	Alright guys, we got a nervous laugh.
	We have a nervous laugh, it's going on the bingo card.
	We gotta get the producer to put an X over the nervous laugh here.
	I got a free space too.
	I've got to get the producer to put an X over the nervous laugh here.
	They've got a lot of very wealthy people.
	They've got a lot of people.
	I've got a free space, too.
	But they've hollowed out their middle class.
	That's who's been.
	Time to eat some pudding now, I guess.
	They've been leaving in other places.
	They go to Arizona.
	They go to Nevada.
	They go to all these places.
	Let me just.
	Just like Biden is hollowing out.
	I do have a follow up.
	Ron, I'm happy that you continue to talk.
	Let's talk a little bit about Bidenomics because I'm happy to take that on right now as well.
	And I think it's a fair point.
	You're a big supporter of it.
	I appreciate you acknowledging that.
	14 million jobs.
	10 times more than the last three Republican presidents combined.
	Because he had 815,000 manufacturing jobs.
	Because the jobs were because of the COVID lockdown.
	Are you kidding me?
	3.9% unemployment.
	As he continues to talk over me, I'll talk to the American people.
	Take the bingo card off of DeSantis' face.
	Oh my god.
	You guys won't believe what I just noticed.
	They are literally covering Ron DeSantis' high heels from the bottom of the podium with the Fox News logo.
	If you are watching this live right now, they are actually covering his heels with the logo, you guys.
	This is ridiculous.
	Okay, so we have the nervous laugh.
	this week celebrating $28 million. - Okay, so we have the nervous laugh.
	We had him say Floridians. - FDR, I'm proud of the work by an- - He's been saved by Fox News.
	We have to put that all over.
	I haven't played bingo in a long time.
	Does that mean I get to put saved by Fox News on every single one?
	I do, right?
	Yeah, technically I do.
	You guys, look at this.
	in the state of Florida pay more than many in our state of California.
	We're 30.
	You guys, look at this.
	It's a snack pack.
	Let me ask the question.
	Pudding.
	Mmm.
	32 states for working families in the middle class.
	Significantly lower taxes than places like Texas.
	You support a 6% income tax on people?
	I'm against progressive taxes that advantage billionaires and millionaires over working families and the working poor.
	People in a state pay more taxes on the low end than we tax people on the high end.
	How does paying $7 a gallon gas help working people?
	That doesn't help working people at all.
	How does paying an 8% Alright guys, I think it's time for me to take a bite of the pudding.
	They have the highest taxes in the nation.
	It's time for us to take a bite of the pudding.
	People flee to be able to save money to get out of California.
	And you have working class people that move to these other states.
	Their dollars go much further.
	But here's the thing.
	They want to take this biodynamics and they want to double down on this for the next four years.
	How many people are able to afford groceries now compared to what you were doing three or four years ago?
	I talked to people.
	I talked to a woman who had a cart full of groceries going in and they're ringing it up.
	And it got to be so expensive, she has to take a lot of the stuff out.
	That didn't used to be the case.
	People used to be able to work hard and get ahead.
	That is not true under Joe Biden.
	And you know what, Sean?
	One more final thing.
	That's so good.
	I love a snack pack.
	California's unemployment rate is 60% higher than Florida's unemployment rate.
	Our unemployment rate is 2.8%.
	4.8%.
	Why?
	Because it's a command and control economy.
	They have a political agenda that they're pursuing.
	Let me ask that question.
	How many do I have to do?
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6?
	Oh my god.
	I just took 3 bites, you guys.
	So many calories.
	I thought this was state versus state.
	Ugh.
	Five, six?
	Oh, my God.
	It took three days.
	3.9%.
	I thought this was state versus state.
	But it's about the United States of America.
	I thought this guy was running for president of the United States.
	You are, too.
	You just won't admit it.
	You're running for a third.
	I thought I'm going to throw up.
	You will not admit it.
	Employment rate in Florida right now is just 2.8%, as you stated.
	and California ranks second worst in the country at 4.8%.
	Hold on.
	This question goes to...
	They regulate too much.
	They have a political agenda.
	It's not a good climate for business.
	They've lost a lot of companies.
	A lot of companies have moved to Texas.
	We have had some to Florida, but they've lost a lot of companies to Texas because they're not doing a good job looking out for folks and not creating a good business environment.
	And, you know, when I have people that come to Florida, they tell me, you know, you guys actually want us to succeed in Florida.
	And they feel like when they're in California, they don't want business to succeed.
	Is that what Disney's saying?
	The Tampa Bay Rays?
	Well, actually, yeah.
	I think that's an interesting point with Disney because I had Disney open during COVID and we made them a fortune and we saved a lot of jobs.
	You had Disney closed inexplicably for over a year.
	You were not following science.
	You were a lockdown governor.
	You did a lot of damage to your people.
	You had more kids locked out of school for a longer period of time in California than anywhere else in the country.
	It was the working class kids.
	It was the middle income kids.
	His kids were in private school.
	They were in class in person.
	He locked people out because of the teacher's union.
	He is owned by the teacher's union.
	You will never cross the teacher's union.
	Lock, stock and barrel.
	Let's talk about COVID.
	Let's talk about your reckoning on COVID.
	You passed an emergency declaration before the state of California did.
	You closed down your beaches, your bars, your restaurants.
	It's a fact.
	You had quarantines.
	Yes they were!
	Oh my god!
	I was literally threatened with arrest when I lived in Palm Beach by a cop on an ATV when I went for a walk by myself.
	You did that.
	You followed science.
	You followed Fauci.
	Ron DeSantis is such a liar.
	You followed science.
	You followed Fauci.
	Why did everyone leave California to come to Florida because we were open?
	That's true!
	Yeah, you get him, Gavin!
	This is the one time in my life that you're going to see me cheer on Gavin Newsom.
	Not because I'm for Gavin Newsom, but because it's so great to see Ron DeSantis get called out for his bullshit.
	Yeah.
	To fall prey to the fringe of his party.
	And as a consequence of that, Ron, tens of thousands of people lost their lives.
	That's true.
	The equivalent, if I had your policies, the equivalent of 10 9-11s.
	Tens of thousands of people lost their lives.
	And for what, Ron?
	Those are more lies.
	In fact, the Lancet just did a study.
	Florida had a lower standardized COVID death rate than California did.
	That's a Lancet study.
	One more thing, one more thing.
	The other thing we had, the other thing California had, California had higher excess mortality than Florida.
	Let me talk about the excess mortality role.
	There goes the bobblehead!
	Oh my god, I've got to eat a meatball!
	I want to ask you both.
	Slow down.
	I want everyone to be heard.
	If I can ask you, I really do want this to breathe.
	There goes the bobblehead.
	Oh, my God.
	I got to eat a meatball.
	To do that, I need both your cooperation.
	I don't want to be a home monitor.
	It's not my style.
	All right.
	You mentioned COVID.
	Let me go to COVID.
	Let's wait, actually, for this question.
	Let's wait, actually, for this question.
	But technically speaking, he bobbled his head, so I have to eat a meatball.
	Governor Newsom, you issued the nation's first day at home order on March 19th of 2020.
	Governor DeSantis, you took a lot of heat for reopening schools.
	You opened schools in Florida in August of 2020.
	All right, so here's the data, which I think is important.
	This is where the facts come in.
	Your state's death rates were almost identical.
	This is factually untrue.
	Hold on.
	It's actually untrue.
	Okay.
	And by the way, both your states with such different approaches, which is pretty fascinating, were both lower, significantly lower than the national average.
	These numbers come straight from the CDC.
	So, Governor Newsom, how do you explain that?
	Per capita death rates in the state of Florida were 29%, 29% per capita higher.
	That's not what the stats say right there.
	Don't lie about it.
	He put the graphic up there.
	Don't lie about it.
	Bingo!
	I got a bingo, you guys.
	We got the bobblehead.
	Okay, so technically saved by Fox News at the top.
	It's the bingo straight ahead.
	That means I gotta eat a meatball?!
	Oh my god, I'm so full!
	Alright.
	It came with this, like, really good cream sauce.
	Ricotta?
	Ricotta cheese, but... It's, like, melted now, so... Look at how yummy this meatball looks, you guys.
	We got our first bingo, and we're only, like, five minutes in.
	This is gonna be a wild night.
	The stats are very clear.
	One at a time.
	On a per capita age-adjusted basis.
	Look at how yummy this meatball looks, you guys.
	Now, why is that important?
	Because Gavin Newsom did huge damage to people in California.
	We got our first bingo and we're only like five minutes in.
	This is going to be a wild night.
	He ruined livelihoods.
	We reopened the state very quickly.
	We saved thousands of jobs.
	We saved hundreds of thousands of jobs.
	Thousands of businesses.
	We had our kids in school.
	He had the kids locked out of school because of the teachers union.
	That is having a generational impact.
	California has one of the lowest literacy rates in the country.
	And the most recent NAPE exam.
	Florida came in number three for fourth grade reading.
	California was far, far behind.
	So you should apologize for not getting your kids in school.
	Why didn't you get the kids in school in the summer of 2020 like we did?
	The only person.
	The only person.
	You didn't do the job you should have done.
	The only person.
	Quick, quick.
	The only person needs to apologize is Ron DeSantis for the tens of thousands of lives that died unnecessarily because he played played to the fringe of his party.
	We got to take a break.
	Great time.
	No, and when it comes to the issue of schools, you better be careful.
	You had more learning loss during COVID than the national average in the state of California.
	It's a fact.
	More learning loss.
	Your economy contracted more in 2020.
	It's meatball time.
	California in 2021.
	More to come on this topic.
	More to come on this debate.
	I know it's starting off next segment I guess.
	It's been rather dull as at the start but uh anyway we got a lot to get to coming up uh many important topics that we're going to be talking about including one issue where might you might find some agreement actually as we continue the blue state red state debate we are live we are in Alpharetta Georgia thank you for being with us.
	All right.
	We're not going to play Fox News's ads on this show, but we'll mute their feed until the commercial break is over.
	But in the meantime, this was a phenomenal meatball, you guys.
	Look, we have to go through this really quick.
	Let's show them what we got on the bingo card.
	Full screen bingo card really quick so you can see for yourself.
	All right.
	This is the official Trump campaign.
	Ron, 2024, distinctimonious debate night bingo.
	Saved by Fox News, okay?
	Because Sean Hannity came in with a lifeline for his boy Ron DeSantis.
	It's a bingo like, like this, okay?
	Like this.
	So...
	Bobblehead.
	Okay, you saw him nervously bobble his head, the free space in the middle, and then the nervous laugh.
	We saw the nervous laugh and then saved by Fox News again.
	So bingo!
	And you saw the rules is every single time there's a spot on the card, I had to take a bite of the pudding.
	And as you can see here, we got our snack packs.
	So I had to take Three, four, five, six, seven bites of pudding tonight.
	Okay, that's a lot of pudding.
	Luckily, I have containers of it here.
	It's gonna be a long night.
	And then every single time you get a bingo, you gotta eat a meatball.
	So we ordered Italian catering tonight, luckily, before the debate started.
	So I think it's gonna be really great.
	I hope I don't eat too much, though.
	It's a lot of food.
	Anyway.
	You know, with all this money that I just had to spend on snack packs and meatballs, I don't know how I'm gonna have money left over to pay my taxes, honestly.
	You know?
	I don't know.
	I can understand why people have late taxes, okay?
	And why some people miss payments on their taxes.
	Because when you have to buy all these supplies for debate night, bingo, And you have to stack up on pudding because of Ron DeSantis and you have to buy and have meatballs catered?
	It's a lot of money, okay?
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	I would be the best promoter ever!
	All right?
	This would be the best ad relationship between a sponsor and a content creator, I think, in content creating history.
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	And we are back!
	With more live debate coverage, your exclusive debate watch coverage on Loomer Unleashed for the debate between Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis.
	Let's listen in.
	Joe Biden's message to illegal immigrants during his campaign was, let them come.
	I'd have the tape, but I said I wouldn't play the tape.
	And since taking office, Biden said he's gotten control of the border.
	Vice President Kamala Harris, Homeland Security Secretary Mayorkas, Biden's press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre have all said the border is either secure Well, guess what?
	They have been a record 6.5 million encounters with the illegal immigrants and so-called asylum seekers at the border since President Biden took office.
	The administration says, well, they don't know how many people actually are in the country illegally.
	Gentlemen, the American people, I ask you, I believe it's your turn, Governor Newsom, have the American people on the issue of borders, you're defending the Biden administration, They're saying the border's secure.
	They're saying the border's closed.
	Those are the numbers from our own border patrol.
	Are the American people being lied to?
	I don't think they're being lied to.
	The Biden administration put out a comprehensive plan day one when he got sworn into office three years ago.
	And the Republican Party didn't touch it.
	They haven't moved on it.
	They play politics with us.
	We are being lied to, and the Republicans have lied to us as well.
	Yeah, so much for closing our borders, right?
	That continued resolution, more money to Ukraine, but nothing for our own borders.
	When he was in Congress, he supported amnesty.
	When he's in Congress, you supported John Boehner's bill.
	It's a fact.
	When you were in Congress, you supported Obama's efforts to advance Oh God, here's the bobblehead.
	Ew, he's licking his mouth again!
	He does that weird tongue thing, you know?
	What that tongue do, Ron?
	So gross.
	They wouldn't even say something like that.
	Oh, he's looking at his mouth again.
	He does that weird tongue thing, you know?
	What that tongue do, Ron?
	Lying to migrants, promising them jobs and housing, sending them to an island, Martha's Vineyard, and then sending them to a parking lot.
	Did it crash?
	It may have crashed.
	We're going to get the feed back up right now.
	We're going to get the live stream back up right now momentarily.
	Here we go.
	That has a record of supporting amnesty and supporting reforms under the Obama administration is the last guy to be standing on stage talking about the issue of immigration reform tonight.
	Well, I'll tell you what, it's deja vu all over again with that flurry of lies.
	This is a guy that says the Biden administration is not lying to the public about the border.
	They go to the White House briefing room every day.
	They say the border is secure.
	They are lying to you.
	We know that that's not true.
	Gavin Newsom is lying to you when he says somehow I supported these things, which I didn't do.
	He's also lying to you about what it's going to take to solve this problem.
	California is a sanctuary state.
	They thumb their nose at federal immigration law.
	And this has real consequences.
	There was an illegal alien, Herbert Nixon Flores, who was in L.A., in custody.
	He was a repeat criminal.
	ICE wanted to take him into custody because then they would be able to deport him.
	L.A.
	refuses to work with ICE, and so they wouldn't turn him over.
	They end up releasing him on the street.
	He ends up murdering the mother of a three-year-old little girl.
	Those policies are deadly.
	They do not work.
	And I'll tell you this, the Martha's Vineyard transport, Martha's Vineyard said it was a sanctuary jurisdiction.
	It kind of reminds me of Gavin Newsom.
	When he restricted Californians, then he went to the French Laundry.
	These liberal elites, they like to impose burdens on you.
	They don't want to have to face the consequences of their actions.
	So we've got a lot of elites who want open borders, who lecture everybody else about it, and the minute they have to deal with any of the consequences, oh man, all hell breaks loose and they get upset.
	Hold on, we're moving on to the next question.
	We'd be much better off if that were the case.
	On the same topic, this is important.
	This is a very important question.
	While some migrants I know want to come to America for a better life for themselves and their family, find the American dream, I totally sympathize with them.
	Many good people fleeing very bad situations abroad.
	But others are abusing the asylum process and in the process in search of where they're coming from.
	We're now learning that many are coming from some of our top geopolitical foes.
	Countries with little to no vetting or people that are coming in.
	They're not being vetted.
	Look at these numbers.
	Between October 2021, October 2023, border agents encountered 6,386 nationals from Afghanistan, 3,153 from Egypt, 659 from Iran, the number one state sponsor of terror, 538 from Syria, 12,605 from Russia, and 12,605 from Russia, and a whopping 26,113 from China.
	Now, my question, the next question goes to you, Governor Newsom.
	What are the odds that Biden's open borders have allowed terrorists and terror cells unvetted into this country?
	Is that a clear and present danger to every American?
	The odds are 100%.
	Of course our enemies are going to take advantage of this.
	He opened the border.
	He's violating his oath of office to take care that the laws are faithfully executed.
	He's knowingly having 8 million come in.
	And yes, there's criminal aliens, there are terrorists, there's a lot of fentanyl.
	We've had tens of thousands of fentanyl deaths.
	I've met a lot of angel parents who have lost kids to fentanyl overdose and the problem is you'll have a college kid that may take some pill not knowing that there's fentanyl in it and then right there that can be fatal.
	They're poisoning our people and Joe Biden is sitting on his hands.
	He refuses to take care of the border.
	He refuses to hold the drug cartels accountable.
	This is the vision Of Biden, Harris, Newsom.
	Open borders.
	Americans suffer.
	And Americans continue to die because of fentanyl overdose.
	There will be, unfortunately, a terrorist attack at some point that we'll be able to trace back to our southern borders.
	By the way, do you see that risk, Governor Newsom?
	Do you see the risk?
	Joe Biden put out not only a comprehensive plan, he consistently puts up plans.
	Is there a risk?
	I'm going to answer your question.
	I support border security.
	I think the asylum system is broken.
	I believe that we need... I understand that.
	I'm the only guy here that's a border state governor.
	You're trolling folks and trying to find migrants to play political games to try to get some news and attention so you can out-Trump Trump.
	And by the way, how's that going for you, Ron?
	You're down 41 points in your own home state.
	On the issue of immigration, Joe Biden put a $14 billion immigration package up in front of Congress.
	That weird face.
	I hate his face.
	You're trying to out-Trump Trump.
	How's that working out for you?
	You're down 41 points in your own state.
	Oh my god.
	That's a major issue in your state.
	41% higher overdose rates in the state of California.
	And here's what I haven't heard.
	Okay, Ron shows emotion.
	Not a peep from Ron DeSantis.
	They want to demagogue this issue.
	You want to play politics with issues.
	You don't want to solve this issue.
	Why don't you lean to the heart and support that $14 billion?
	Hold on.
	I have a follow-up.
	Governor Newsom, I appreciate your answer.
	You have mentioned comprehensive immigration reform many times.
	It's not happened under Joe Biden.
	I don't think it's going to happen next year.
	He put a detailed plan and Republicans in Congress refused to act on it.
	It takes Congress to work with the administration.
	With all of these millions and millions of people coming into this country unvetted, the question was and remains, is this a clear and present danger?
	From the countries I put up on the screen, is that a clear and present danger to America?
	That's why the President of the United States put a $14 billion package in front of Congress they can act on today.
	They haven't done anything in two years, this Congress.
	Literally not a single piece of legislation.
	I support the $14 billion package the President has put forward that includes 2,300 border agents and customs officials.
	By the way, it also includes $850 million in new technology for border security.
	You hear nothing from Ron DeSantis.
	You hear nothing, Sean, respectfully.
	You hear nothing from the Republican Party.
	I'm almost out of time.
	Does it worry you?
	Let me ask the question another way.
	Does it worry you that our top geopolitical foes, the number one state sponsor of terror Iran, China, Russia, That's a lie.
	That's a lie.
	Afghanistan, Syria, that they're at our southern border, you're a border state governor.
	Does that concern you at all?
	The answer is yes.
	Why else would I put the National Guard?
	Why would I just increase it by 50 percent on the largest port in the Western Hemisphere in my state?
	I mean, this guy has no record.
	I mean, the fact that you supported amnesty, the fact you supported Obama's reforms, those are facts.
	They're just a lie.
	It's not a lie.
	Why is he laughing?
	You are just making things up.
	Well, listen, here's the thing.
	I don't mind.
	That's so inhumane.
	I don't mind him lying to me.
	I don't mind Gavin lying to me.
	I do mind him lying to you.
	We need to put that on.
	He is sitting there saying that Joe Biden is willing to solve this problem.
	Is there anybody out there that actually believes this?
	Joe Biden created this problem.
	So if he's willing to lie to you about that, you know he's lying to you about all these other facts and figures about all this other stuff.
	He's just throwing stuff out to see what sticks against the wall.
	This is a slick, slippery politician whose state is failing, people are leaving his state, and he's trying to run interference for his failure.
	We've got to take our second break.
	We're going to when we come back.
	All right.
	Great time.
	You guys quick break.
	We have a lot of ground to cover more with governors.
	Okay, for this break.
	I think we're going to play the we're going to play the ad as we can fingers out of Georgia.
	You know, a lot of you probably aren't aware of this ad, but President Trump's pack actually had a really great ad.
	It was called putting fingers and we're going to play that for you.
	I think it's hilarious, actually.
	Like, if you just watch the ad right here, we're going to put that up on the screen.
	But this was one of the ads that was put out by President Trump's PAC while we're waiting for this commercial break.
	We're going to play this ad for you so that you can see.
	There was a story that came out about how Ron DeSantis was eating pudding with his fingers and he didn't use a spoon and instead, like, nervously shoveled pudding into his mouth.
	So it was so disgusting that You know, people now start calling Ron DeSantis pudding fingers, so we're going to play this for you guys.
	Put it up on the screen here.
	Play the full ad soon.
	You can see it right there.
	So there's the pudding.
	He puts it in his fingers.
	Maybe I should do that, right?
	What do you guys think?
	You think I should eat the pudding with my fingers or eat it with a spoon?
	See, I could eat pudding with my fingers if I wanted to, but I'm not an animalistic distemp, okay?
	I'm not an animalistic distemp.
	So, I think we have it ready now.
	We're gonna play it, right?
	Here's the ad.
	Ron DeSantis loves sticking his fingers where they don't belong, and we're not just talking about pudding.
	DeSantis has his dirty fingers all over senior entitlements.
	Like cutting Medicare, slashing Social Security, even raising our retirement age.
	Tell Ron DeSantis to keep his pudding fingers off our money.
	Oh, and get this man a spoon.
	Make America Great Again, Inc.
	is responsible for the content of this advertising.
	Ron DeSantis loves sticking his fingers where they don't belong.
	And we're not just talking about pudding.
	DeSantis has his dirty fingers all over senior entitlements.
	Like cutting Medicare, slashing Social Security, Even raising our retirement age.
	Tell Ron DeSantis to keep his pudding fingers off our money.
	Oh, and get this man a spoon.
	Make America Great Again, Inc.
	is responsible for the content of this advertising.
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	of the new iPhone 15.
	Pudding!
	Mmm! Mmm! Pudding! Mmm! - Ron DeSantis loves sticking his fingers where they don't belong.
	And we're not just talking about pudding.
	DeSantis has his dirty fingers all over senior entitlements.
	Like cutting Medicare, slashing Social Security, even raising our retirement age.
	Tell Ron DeSantis to keep his pudding fingers off our money.
	Oh, and get this man a spoon.
	Make America great again and get responsible for the content of this advertising.
	Yum. - Yum.
	Pudding.
	Anyway, real story, guys.
	It's a real Ron DeSantis story.
	We're waiting now for this Fox feed to come back on, but I just had to play that ad for you.
	I personally love it.
	I think it's great.
	And obviously, Ron DeSantis is insecure, right?
	Because every single time he's, like, called out for a lie or whatever, he has these really weird nervous tics where he's, like, licking his mouth, or he does this weird thing where he's, like, Looks like somebody punched him, and he's like, oh, I'm not a liar.
	I have vaccinations in the state of Florida.
	Ron DeSantis, again, thank you both for being here.
	All right, we're back.
	We are back with the Fox News debate.
	I don't mind a debate taking on a life of its own, but let each other breathe.
	Let's go.
	I don't want to be the hall monitor.
	Please don't turn me into that.
	Anyway, let's look at the issue of crime.
	FBI numbers violent crime nationally for each of your states.
	Keep in mind this statistic shows what is the combined rate of homicide, rape, robbery, aggravated assault the year 2020.
	Notice they have his boots covered tonight so you can't see him wearing his heels.
	380.7 offenses per 100,000 people.
	In California, meanwhile, the rate was much higher.
	499.5 offenses per 100,000.
	In Florida, lower.
	258.9 offenses per 100,000.
	Governor Newsom, let me start with you.
	258.9 offenses per 100,000.
	Governor Newsom, let me start with you.
	Your numbers are way higher than the national average.
	Look at how far they have in the way.
	They're doing this on purpose so that you can't see his high heels.
	They don't want to put him next to Gavin Newsom so that you can't see how short he is.
	We're near 55 percent violent crimes in the state of California from the 1990s.
	And I want to compare and contrast that with the issue in Florida that you didn't mention.
	And that's the murder rate.
	And let's broaden it more broadly.
	The issue is seven out of ten.
	Law numbers were part of the murder rate.
	Seven of the top ten murder rates in the United States of America are red states.
	He has a 66% higher gun death rate than the state of California.
	He has a higher murder rate.
	Go to places like Jacksonville.
	Go to places like Orlando.
	Go to places like Tampa.
	The murder rate's off the charts compared to cities like San Francisco.
	And you know what?
	Even more egregiously, Sean, and I think this is important, the American people deserve an answer from you.
	Ron, you had one of the worst mass shootings in American history, Parkland.
	17 kids were gunned down, lives lost.
	17 others, lives torn asunder.
	You had a young girl by the name of Jamie Gutenberg, whose father pleaded with you to do something about it.
	And you know what you did?
	You did the exact opposite.
	You made it easier for felons to get guns without background checks, without any training.
	These people pleaded with you, the parents and the families, to get tough on gun safety.
	And again, you made it easier for felons.
	He said of you, Ron, and I agree with him.
	After you signed that concealed carry bill, which increases the likelihood, Fred Guttenberg said, of more Jamies losing their lives and more Parklands, he called you weak, pathetic, and small.
	So with respect, I appreciate you're talking to police officers in the state of California.
	You may want to spend a little bit more time Not on the Ohio Trail and other places across this country.
	You may spend a little more time back in your home state and address the murder and gun violence in your own backyard.
	Or maybe the homeowner insurance rate crisis.
	I don't know.
	500 per 100,000.
	Florida is 250.
	So that's almost twice as much.
	And he's trying to spin that to say California's doing good?
	People are leaving California in droves.
	Largely because public safety is collapsed.
	They have, I mean, you go, when Californians come to Florida, one of the things they'll say, it's almost like an out-of-body experience.
	They can go to the store, get toothpaste off the shelf, pay for it, and leave.
	Because in a lot of these places in California, everything's under lock and key because they've basically legalized retail theft.
	They have chosen in California to put the interests of the criminals over public safety.
	They're easier on sex offenders.
	They're easier on all these crimes that are leading to a collapse in the quality of life.
	And if you just walk around San Francisco, you will see, and I think it's interesting, Gavin Newsom was mayor of San Francisco, so he took the San Francisco model Turn that into a template for California's collapse.
	Now the left wants to take the California model and use that as a template for America's collapse.
	We cannot let that happen.
	Wait, I got to...
	Hold on, Governor.
	No, no.
	He's getting nervous.
	You see how nervous Ron is getting?
	He's got that nervous laugh.
	I told you guys, Gavin Newsom is...
	He's got this weird, charming thing about him.
	Even though he's a communist, right?
	And he's a numbers guy.
	He's a numbers guy.
	I know you like to jabber.
	I know you like to lie.
	I know you like to jabber.
	I know you like to lie.
	Your crime is higher.
	We know your crime is higher.
	Gentlemen, I'm going to move on.
	We'll let the audience look at the FBI numbers on the side.
	According to the Gun Control Advocacy Group, every town for gun safety.
	California has the most, as you support, I know Governor, restrictive gun laws in the United States.
	Florida has the 19th most restrictive.
	Yet, if you look at the year 2019, when each of you took office, California has had 21 mass shootings, Florida has had 9.
	Now, that is according to a USA Today, AP, Northeastern University database, data.
	Keep in mind a mass killing is defined as the intentional killing of four or more victims excluding the deaths of unborn children and the offenders by any means within a 24 period of time.
	I believe Governor DeSantis, you get this first.
	What California wants to do is they want to make it harder for law-abiding citizens to defend themselves, then they go easy on the criminals who are perpetrating the crime.
	They don't stand up for the men and women of law enforcement.
	That's why a lot of people have left the state, because they don't get the support from the communities that they need.
	And, you know, Gavin told another lie.
	He said we made it easier for felons to do.
	Felons are not allowed to possess firearms.
	That's federal law.
	That's been long-standing.
	That is an absolute lie that he's saying like that.
	That has nothing to do with buying or purchasing a weapon.
	So that's just a lie, another lie that's coming up.
	Look, the fact of the matter is, you guys, they're both liars, okay?
	Gavin Newsom's a liar and so is Ron DeSantis.
	But the point of this debate is to just show you how Ron DeSantis is not ready for primetime and how the Democrats, starting tomorrow, you're going to see, they're going to start talking about Gavin Newsom as their replacement for Joe Biden.
	When I was in Southern California for the Reagan debate, a lot of the women told me they had to take off all their jewelry just to be able to go shopping because otherwise they're going to get mugged.
	That is the reality that people are facing in California.
	Gavin can try to put lipstick on that pig, but the fact of the matter is he has failed the people of California.
	I love this guy talking about backing the blue when you dangled pardons for January 6th.
	Someone in the chat said it perfectly.
	It's my lie versus your lie.
	My lie versus your lie.
	Absolutely.
	Charged with attacking law enforcement.
	You talk a big game about backing the blue.
	With all due respect to the crime rate, again, he's not answering the fact that he has a higher murder rate than the state of California, a 66% higher gun death rate than the state of California, and I can easily answer this point.
	Gun safety saves lives.
	I don't think it, I know it, and the data bears that out in the state of California.
	California proudly does lead in terms of common sense gun safety.
	Common sense gun safety saves lives.
	You had the chance to do something meaningful, you had a chance to do something on behalf of those Parkland families, You did the exact opposite.
	You moved in the exact opposite direction.
	With all due respect, look at your own backyard.
	The only thing he did for the Parkland families was he appointed a swinger to be the sheriff of Broward County, Gregory Toney.
	...district attorneys like your buddy Gascogne in L.A., one in Tampa, one in Orlando.
	They were endangering the public, and I removed them from their post.
	Gavin Newsom has not lifted a finger to rein in Gascogne in L.A.
	That city has collapsed.
	That county's collapsed.
	Don't insult the city.
	I've never heard that before.
	Don't insult a great city.
	You're talking down one of the great American cities, Los Angeles.
	That's insulting.
	That's just high purple.
	We're a little over time.
	That's high in Philadelphia.
	15 more. 15 seconds.
	We've got to go break.
	I've never heard that before.
	Don't insult a great city.
	You're talking down one of the great American cities, Los Angeles.
	That's insulting.
	And you're doing it because you're trying to obfuscate the facts that you have a higher murder rate in the state of Florida, in the state of California.
	We've got to take a break.
	He's slob, man.
	I'll tell you, he's slob.
	We'll have more with Governor DeSantis, Governor Gavin Newsom on the other side.
	All right.
	If we continue the great state debate, blue versus red, there's hardly any differences.
	A lot of ground to cover.
	Thank you for being with us.
	We are in beautiful Alpharetta, Georgia.
	Thank you for joining us on Hannity.
	All right.
	They're going to go for a quick commercial break, so I'm going to take your questions in the chat.
	So if you have questions right now, put your questions in the chat.
	We're going to go to Super Chats first, so I'm going to mute the Fox feed there.
	So let's go to the chat.
	Please be sure that you are reposting this live link.
	We are live right now.
	We have about 5,000 live viewers, which is pretty good, actually.
	So I think we're actually on the front page of Rumble right now, so that's really good.
	Shout out to Rumble.
	And be sure that you're posting this, sharing this, so other people can see it.
	Are you guys enjoying bingo tonight?
	If you are, put one in the chat.
	I already won bingo, and so I've taken, like, nine bites of Chocolate pudding, and I already had to eat a meatball, so... And that's on top of the dinner that I already ate tonight.
	I ate veal piccata for dinner.
	So I had... I ordered Italian, and then we had meatballs catered for the studio, right?
	So... We're all full here.
	I'm hoping I don't throw up.
	Someone said, please do not overeat.
	I know, right?
	You know, I finally... I finally now fit into a size 2.
	Sometimes a 0, depending on, like, what I'm...
	Wearing.
	And so the other day I was like, oh wow, that's amazing.
	This is probably like the thinnest I've ever been in my life.
	And then now I'm like ruining it by eating chocolate pudding.
	So you know what, Ron DeSantis, if I get fat, it's your fault too.
	Okay.
	It is your fault.
	It is your fault if I can't fit into a size zero jeans.
	Okay.
	I am going to blame you, Ron.
	I'm going to blame you because I was so good at my caloric deficit recently and I have lost so much weight.
	And I'm going to blame you if I gain weight from eating this chocolate pudding tonight.
	Somebody said I had a cup worth of pudding.
	Yeah.
	Alright, so what are your questions tonight?
	Put your questions in the chat.
	I know we have a couple Super Chats, so let's read those Super Chats right now.
	Let's see.
	We have $5 from ThreadWatch, $45.47, MAGA 24.
	Thank you.
	They said Gavin Newsom is winning this.
	Yeah, you know what?
	I honestly think so, too.
	I think he is.
	He's a numbers guy.
	Look, they're both liars.
	People, I'm not supporting Gavin Newsom.
	But he's a better politician in the sense that he is a better communicator.
	He's a better debater.
	And he's been able to completely deflect his record onto Ron DeSantis effectively tonight.
	And he's right about Ron DeSantis.
	But good for Gavin Newsom for calling out Ron DeSantis for lying about closing the beaches.
	because he did close the beaches.
	Someone said, say hello to our future president, Gavin Newsom.
	That's the plan.
	They're trying to make him president.
	All right.
	What do you think of Swenson joining the Trump campaign?
	So, Brian Swenson.
	I like Brian Swenson.
	I've met Brian Swenson.
	I think it's a great hire, personally, so I think it's going to be great.
	I met Brian Swenson when I ran for Congress here in Florida.
	I ran in 2020 and I ran in 2022, and I've honestly heard nothing but good things about Brian Swenson.
	So I know that he's an effective political operative and a Trump supporter and I have high hopes for Brian Swenson.
	I really do.
	And for those of you who don't know who Brian Swenson was, he's a Florida political operative who went to Ohio to, I guess, work for Vivek Ramaswamy as one of his, you know, chief campaign strategists.
	And it was just announced yesterday that he's resigning from Vivek Ramaswamy's campaign to go back on the Trump campaign.
	So I like it.
	Press one of you think Laura is really putting it down tonight.
	Oh, yeah, I am.
	Someone said play the game F. Mary Kill, Gavin Newsom, DeSanctis, and Birdbrain.
	I don't know.
	I'm gonna get in Ro- Yeah, in Roblox and Minecraft, you guys.
	Okay?
	In Roblox.
	We don't need to get visited by the Secret Service tonight.
	I'm already wearing my Ultra Maga shirt.
	They're gonna call me an Ultra Maga domestic violence extremist.
	Alright, we're back.
	We are back.
	Hi, welcome back to Hannity, the Great Red State, Blue State Debate.
	We continue with Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida, Governor Gavin Newsom of the state of California.
	Gentlemen, let's turn to the issue of parental rights.
	Oh, parental rights, here we go!
	Now, in March of last year, Governor DeSantis, as you know, you signed the Parental Rights in Education Bill, and let me read from it.
	It says, classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade three Or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students and according with state standards.
	Critics have called the bill quote homophobic.
	This is the one they branded the don't say gay bill.
	I ask you Governor DeSantis In especially the lower grades, should schools, and maybe all grades, should schools be focusing on reading, writing, math, science, history, computers, and maybe leaving values, considering parents might have different values than teachers at school, to the parents, to religious institutions, Or is it the role of the school?
	What is the role?
	The role of the school is to educate kids, not indoctrinate kids.
	It's not to impose an agenda.
	It's to do the basics.
	And what we've said in Florida is it's inappropriate to tell a kindergartner that their gender is a choice.
	It's inappropriate to tell a second grader that they may have been born in the wrong body.
	Now, California has that.
	They want to have that injected into the elementary school.
	My wife and I have a 7'5 and a 3-year-old.
	We don't think that that's appropriate, and I know most Parents do not think it's appropriate.
	It's also important to respect parental rights to know what curriculum is being used in the classroom, and everything should be age-appropriate.
	I actually have something that I brought that some parents have objected to.
	So this is a book that's in some of the schools in California.
	Florida, this is not consistent with our standards, called Genderqueer.
	Some of it's blocked out.
	You would not probably be able to put this on air.
	This is pornography.
	It's cartoons.
	It's aimed at children.
	And it's wrong.
	So this should not be In schools, when people like on the left say that somehow you're banning books by removing this from a young kid's classroom, no, this is not age appropriate.
	And so we're going to stand for the rights of parents.
	I think we need to do that nationwide.
	I don't think you can have a situation where some states just trample on the rights of parents.
	Parents have a fundamental right to direct the education and upbringing of their kids.
	By the way, you've been on a banning bench.
	1,406 books have been banned just last year under Ron DeSantis' leadership.
	I love that he keeps pulling this out.
	I've seen this.
	He's been doing this all over the campaign trail.
	What's wrong with Toni Morrison's books?
	It's not banned.
	What's wrong?
	It's not true.
	What's wrong with Amanda Gorman's?
	It's not banned.
	And the poetry?
	1,406.
	Those are false narratives.
	1,406 books have been banned on your banning binge in the state of Florida.
	Bingo!
	As it relates to parental rights.
	Come on.
	California, it's in our Constitution.
	Woo!
	Another bingo!
	It's called the LCFL process.
	We actually require parental engagement.
	Narratives and Ron backs down.
	And we don't.
	Complete lie.
	We don't require K through 3rd grade sexual education.
	Woo!
	That doesn't happen until middle school.
	I don't know if I can eat another meatball.
	I'm gonna die, you guys.
	I can't eat it.
	My stomach is too small these days.
	What am I gonna do?
	Ron backs down at the very top.
	Bingo!
	Yeah!
	I can't eat it, you guys.
	We had a bill called the Briggs Commission. - Ron Baxkow at the very top. - And there was a guy by the name of Ronald Reagan.
	So offended by the Briggs Commission, which was the original Don't Say Gay Gay.
	In that case, it was not allowing teachers that happened to be gay to teach.
	And Reagan had the courage to stand up. - I can't hear you guys.
	It's like freaking massive.
	I can't eat another one.
	What am I supposed to do?
	I made a commitment.
	You guys.
	A lot.
	It's like a small bite of pudding to make up for it.
	I don't like the way you demean and humiliate people you disagree with.
	I really find this fundamentally offensive.
	And this is a core value that distinguishes the values of my state and frankly the vast majority of Americans against the weaponization of education.
	I have a follow up question for you though.
	And by the way, first governor, yes or no, are the book banning issues, is that not a state issue?
	Is that a state issue or a local issue?
	Local, and he's lying.
	The poem book wasn't there.
	Here's the question I have for you, Governor Newsom.
	Um, some of the books you're talking about, one is called, the governor just brought it up, it's called Gender Queer, a memoir, explicit pornographic book showing sex acts.
	This is the book that I made a nationwide television ad for in 2020.
	This book is gay, a book containing instructions on the ins and outs of gay sexuality.
	Let me finish.
	Let's talk about it, a book that contains graphic descriptions about how to masturbate for males and females.
	My question to you, Governor Newsom, those books, do you believe that's appropriate for school districts to teach kids, yes or no?
	Come on, it's not part of the curriculum.
	They're not teaching kids that.
	Those are books that were in school.
	Hold on, hold on.
	The bottom line is, you are on a book-banning binge, your state.
	1,406 books.
	3,362 in this country.
	What about those books?
	We don't provide for K-3rd grade education, that kind of curriculum.
	It's just made up.
	These guys make it up.
	It's part of this cultural purge.
	Should it be?
	What grade would it be acceptable?
	What I find offensive, Sean and Ron, what I find offensive is that a very significant number of these books happen to be LGBTQ books.
	A significant number of these books happen to be about African Americans.
	Do you think it's appropriate in school?
	We don't teach that.
	We have sex education in middle schools and high schools where it's appropriate.
	This is a ginned up, made up issue to divide this country.
	You talk about dividing this country?
	This is part of the culture war, the weaponization of grievance.
	This is part of using education.
	We're focusing on math, science.
	We're focusing on reimagining our schools.
	We're going to get to education next.
	He's criminalizing teachers and criminalizing librarians that check out the wrong book.
	They've used the schools to impose a liberal agenda.
	Social justice, they have this ethnic studies where they're dividing people.
	That's what they're doing.
	But let me just say something about parents' rights, because he says California respects parents' rights.
	This is rich.
	He's been telling a lot of whoppers tonight, this may be the biggest.
	In California, if you're a parent in Iowa or New Hampshire or South Carolina, your minor child Can go to California without your knowledge or without your consent and get hormone therapy, puberty blockers, and a sex change operation all without you knowing or consenting?
	How in the heck is that honoring parents' rights when you're bringing people from out of state to go around their parents' backs and getting life-altering surgeries?
	That is radical!
	That is extreme!
	That is an assault on parents' rights!
	You know what?
	It's not for you to decide.
	It's for the parents to decide.
	And the parents do not want their kids going to these other things.
	Let me go to a follow-up.
	Let me stay on a follow-up.
	Let's turn to the issue of education.
	The decency of taking, ripping somebody away from their family.
	Nobody can hear you.
	That is wrong.
	That is wrong.
	Parents should not stand in this country.
	Let us turn, gentlemen, if I may, to the issue of education.
	Here is public school spending per K-12 students according to the Education Data Initiative from the U.S.
	Census Bureau and National Center for Education.
	Florida spends nearly $12,000 per student, while California spends over $16,000.
	Florida is ranked number one by U.S.
	News & World Report.
	In terms of state education rankings, California ranks 20th.
	Governor Newsom.
	What is your explanation?
	You spend more money and they have better results in Florida.
	Why?
	I told you what I'm doing in public education.
	We created a brand new grade, Pre-K for All.
	We're doing after school and summer school for all.
	We're reimagining the school day, not just the school year.
	We just provided 3.4 million of our students upwards of $2 billion for child savings accounts and the opportunity to start businesses when they graduate.
	We have one of the best records under COVID, during COVID.
	And again, you didn't answer to the fact you had more learning loss.
	Ron DeSantis had more learning loss during COVID.
	Fourth grade reading, fourth grade math, eighth grade reading, eighth grade math.
	We outperformed you in every, it's a fact during COVID in every one of those categories.
	I'm, I'm, I can't wait to get all the political facts tonight because Ron, you keep denying some basic fundamental facts on health, Wealth and education.
	We outperformed you during COVID.
	You talk about things to apologize.
	You should apologize for your COVID record.
	You were with Fauci.
	You aligned with vaccines.
	You aligned with CDC guidelines until you didn't.
	And tens of thousands of people.
	Let's return our focus to education.
	Well, when we opened the schools, we bucked all of those people June of 2020.
	He kept the schools closed for a long time, and that had devastating impacts.
	And why?
	What Gavin Newsom does in California is kowtow to the teachers union.
	Whatever they tell him to do, he does.
	He will never buck the teachers union.
	That's why the kids were locked out of school for so long.
	Joe Biden is in the pocket of the teachers union, and so is Kamala Harris.
	That's why they fought school openings when he came in there.
	When they had that in there, Biden came into office and he brought in the Teacher's Union to be able to do all these different things to try to keep the schools closed.
	So the Democratic Party, the far left in this country, they are owned lock, stock and barrel by the Teacher's Union.
	I beat the Teacher's Union in Florida to get the schools open first in the country during COVID.
	Also to do universal school choice.
	Every parent in Florida has a right to send their kid to the school of their choice.
	We're winning these fights.
	California is bending the knee to the union because they control the politicians.
	Let's move on.
	A topic that will seemingly play a very large role in the future elections, and it's the issue of abortion.
	I have a question for both of you.
	I'll ask you to please respect the individual's right to answer uninterrupted.
	And that is Governor DeSantis.
	I think it's actually your turn, Governor Newsom, if you don't mind.
	All good.
	Most medical professionals believe a baby is viable.
	Outside of a mother's womb by between 24 and 26 weeks.
	That is the general scientific consensus.
	It changes.
	There are some variations on it.
	Abortion is legal in your state, quote, up to viability, is my understanding, unless the mother's health is in danger.
	I'd like to get you on the record.
	You've been unwilling to answer this question.
	Do you, should there be any restrictions on the issue of abortion that you support at all?
	Because funding in California, you have allocated in your budget $265 million for abortion last year alone.
	My question, very specific.
	Do you support any restrictions at all on abortion, especially among 7, 8, and 9, past viability?
	I'm going to answer that question, but let's talk about the issue of abortion.
	Let's talk about the issue of abortion.
	You're going to answer it?
	I'm going to answer that question.
	He doesn't want to answer.
	But I think this is important and it bears repeating.
	Ron DeSantis signed the most extreme anti-abortion bills in America.
	He signed a bill banning many exceptions for rape and incest.
	And then he said it didn't go far enough and decided to sign a six-week ban.
	Before women even know they're pregnant, Ron.
	Before women can even access a doctor's appointment.
	So extreme is your ban that criminalizes women and criminalizes doctors that even Donald Trump said it was too extreme.
	On the issue of the extreme exception that you highlight as it relates to the issue of later term abortion, it's almost always because of a fetal anomaly, the life of the mother.
	And in those rare cases, I trust, and to answer your question, I trust the mother and her doctor to make that decision.
	So in other words, I want to be clear on this.
	If a woman and her doctor, for any reason... Not for any reason.
	No, no, no, no.
	I'm asking.
	It's extremely rare.
	Should there be... This is a conundrum.
	I know where you guys are going, Sean.
	You're even uncomfortable with this whole issue.
	I'm asking.
	I watch your... This is where you guys have to go.
	I'm asking.
	He doesn't want to answer because in California they actually do support 9-month abortion.
	Would you support a ban on abortion in 7th, 8th, or 9th month if the mother's life is not in jeopardy?
	Extreme, extreme exception.
	People aren't going on and having abortions.
	Should it be illegal then?
	If it's rare, should it be illegal?
	It should be up to the mother and her doctor and her conscience.
	So the answer is no restriction?
	I've already answered it.
	No restriction?
	I'll just reinforce it.
	To cover up, again, hold on, for the most extreme abortion ban in the country.
	I have a simple question though, this is important.
	No, no, no, no, I'm asking the question.
	Will you or will you not sign a six week ban in the unlikely case you go to the United States?
	Let's talk about your state.
	You had a 15-week rule in California.
	You reduced it to six.
	My question is this.
	What was your thinking behind it?
	Was it for religious reasons?
	Was it for scientific reasons?
	What was the reason for you from going from 15 weeks to six weeks?
	Well, I believe in a culture of life.
	I think we're better off when everybody counts, when everybody has an opportunity to do well.
	And that bill attaches when there's a detectable heartbeat for the child.
	And some states have done that.
	Some states have done others.
	Some states have done later.
	And obviously they have a right to do that.
	But I think about one of our Floridians, a lady named Penny Hopper.
	She actually survived a late-term abortion back in the day, and they left her on the table there to basically wither away.
	Her grandmother came, saved her, brought her to a brought her to a hospital, brought her, saved her.
	And she ended up living, living a good life.
	So she counts and she matters.
	And I think that what the position that we have from the modern left, including in California, is that they will take your tax dollars and they will fund abortion all the way to the moment of birth.
	He's wrong when he says the later terms are all because of this.
	Eighty eight percent 88% past 15 weeks are in fact elective from the Florida data.
	He doesn't keep data there.
	But that is really extreme to take your tax dollars and to do this all the way up to the moment of birth.
	He didn't answer your question about any type of protections at all for a baby that has a beating heart, that can feel pain, that is viable.
	Let me, let me... Hold on.
	Respectfully, this is an important conversation.
	Will you or will you not support a national... You didn't answer Sean.
	Why didn't you answer his question?
	Will you or will you not support a national ban if it lands on your desk?
	You couldn't answer that in any other context.
	Okay, gentlemen, we're moving on to the next issue.
	No, Sean, not a next issue.
	You never gave a week.
	The American people should know this.
	I'll answer it for Ron DeSantis.
	He can't answer it.
	He will sign that extreme six-week ban.
	Okay, let me move on.
	The American people should know that.
	I'm calling this the lightning round.
	It would be great if you guys cooperated.
	I'm not a potted plant here.
	I'm good.
	And I want to ask you, we all know that federal policy does have a huge impact on states.
	We know that.
	I'm going to ask you three simple questions and I just want one word answers, OK?
	From three of you.
	To our best.
	Because we're coming up on a break.
	And the issue is right now, Joe Biden is president.
	So I would like both of you to give a grade to Joe Biden overall as president Governor Newsom, I'll give you an A. An A, absolutely.
	Governor DeSantis failed.
	A failure, okay.
	Now, number two, are his policies helping or hurting your individual states?
	Is it helping the state of Florida?
	Inflation is hurting our state big time.
	Great.
	fail.
	He failed.
	He's failed on the economy.
	The guy just took $28 million in the science and in tech act.
	Thank you, Joe Biden.
	It's absolutely accelerating our dominance in manufacturing, accelerating our revitalization.
	Okay.
	That was a simple answer.
	Unequivocally, lastly, yes.
	Okay.
	I will ask you, Governor DeSantis.
	I have played over and over again.
	And Governor Newsom, you have seen over and over again.
	Joe Biden is experienced what I believe to be significant cognitive decline.
	And.
	And in other words, it's the toughest job in the world.
	Is Joe Biden experiencing this cognitive decline?
	Is it a danger to the country?
	Do you find when he speaks, what is your reaction to it?
	Yes, he's in decline.
	Yes, it's a danger to the country.
	He has no business running for president.
	And, you know, Gavin Newsom agrees with that.
	He won't say that.
	That's why he's running his shadow campaign.
	He should not be running.
	He is not up to the job.
	And it is dangerous for this country.
	Well, I'll take I will take Joe Biden at 100 versus Ron DeSantis any day of the week at any age.
	In fact, all of you think you think he's up to the job.
	You think he's 100 percent.
	I've been spending plenty of time with 100 percent.
	You don't know.
	And by the way, results matter.
	Inflation now is down to three point two percent.
	Wages are up to four point four percent.
	The economy is booming.
	Five point two percent GDP growth in the last quarter.
	Those are facts you don't hear on Fox News.
	Fourteen million jobs.
	Ten times.
	Let me move on.
	That was a lightning round.
	Now, on March 31st, 1968, President Lyndon B. Johnson famously said, I shall not seek and I will not accept the nomination of my party for another term as your president.
	Now, despite being an incumbent president who is eligible to run for reelection, Governor Newsom, I've interviewed you twice on this issue.
	You say you are not running for president in 2024.
	In fact, you recently said, quote, You think that Vice President Harris is naturally the one lined up to run for president if Joe Biden were to bow out.
	Governor Newsom, tonight I ask you, will you make an LBJ-like statement?
	And Governor DeSantis, you say he's running a shadow campaign.
	In your response, I would like you to answer that.
	Will you say, unequivocally, under no circumstances, are you running?
	Correct.
	I don't know how many times I can say it.
	He's just making this stuff up about a shadow campaign.
	If at the DNC convention they come and ask you, will you run, what will you say?
	Joe Biden will be our nominee in a matter of weeks.
	And in a matter of weeks, Sean, he'll be endorsing Donald Trump as a nominee for the Republican Party.
	If they come to you at the DNC and Joe is incapable of running and they ask you, are you a hard no?
	It's not even optional.
	He's doing fantastically.
	I appreciate and respect the work the president's doing and the vice president's, the Biden-Harris campaign and team.
	So absolutely unequivocally, I look forward to continuing to support their efforts.
	President Biden will be reelected.
	Donald Trump will be rejected.
	I think what he's saying should color every single thing.
	I mean, I've called him on a lot of the lies, but he says Joe Biden is 100% up to the job.
	You know that that's not true.
	Anybody that can look, he wants you to believe him over your own lying eyes.
	When he says the economy is so great, how great is it when you're going to the grocery store now?
	How great is it when you're trying to afford a home?
	How are those interest rates doing?
	What about affording a new car?
	So we have to get real here.
	We have to understand that Biden is not up to the job.
	But here's the here's, I think, the problem.
	What Biden would do, the people around him, they would look to California for the model to go forward in the next four years.
	That would accelerate the decline of this country.
	Freedom is what works.
	The failures need to be left in the dustbin of history.
	Tell that freedom to women that you're trying to criminalize in your state.
	Alright, we're retreating to all grounds.
	Spare me this notion of freedom, for it is not a state of freedom.
	One of the things I want to accomplish here is the policies that you both implement have a great impact on the citizens of your individual states.
	For years, a gallon of gasoline, Governor Newsom, in California has been notably higher in your state than in the state of Florida.
	That's right.
	Here are the numbers, by the way, recent numbers.
	The average cost for a gallon of gas nationwide, just over $3.24 in Florida, $3.17 in California.
	$3.24 in Florida, $3.17 in California.
	It is a whopping $4.85.
	So, Governor Newsom, I ask you, you've also sued big oil companies, alleging executives have deceived the public about the health of our planet, knowing that it's a polluter.
	If your lawsuit is successful, that would likely mean higher gas prices, even higher gas prices for everybody.
	Here's my question, though.
	Could you name, right now, one source of energy That you can bring online in the next three to six months that would be as inexpensive for the people in this country as fossil fuels.
	Let me, let me, let me, let me touch.
	Can you, can you think of that energy?
	Let me touch on that.
	I'm going to get to your question and let me touch on the latter part of your question.
	Let me get to the first part of the question.
	Okay.
	You're absolutely right.
	Since the 1980s, Republican administrations, Democratic administrations have experienced, under their stewardship, have experienced higher gas prices in the state of California.
	We've been ripped off by big oil.
	We continue to be ripped off by big oil.
	We are one of the top streams on Rumble right now, so be sure that you keep on liking and resharing so that we can continue to have more viewers tonight.
	And yes, we're suing.
	We're suing the industry responsible for this climate crisis.
	By the way, the same climate crisis that Ron DeSantis celebrated as human A human cause, who campaigned for a fracking ban, who campaigned to oppose offshore oil drilling, and then two days after he got elected, signed an executive order.
	By the way, Nikki Haley had you dead to right on this, Ron.
	Signed an executive order doubling down, saying you're adamantly opposed to fracking, adamantly opposed to offshore oil drilling.
	You were celebrated by the Sierra Club for that action.
	Until you weren't.
	Once again, it shows the hypocrisy of Ron DeSantis.
	Now you're running away from climate change as things have gotten worse.
	Hurricanes, wildfires, droughts, and floods.
	$179 billion of weather-related disasters.
	And he has no response except talking points from Big Oil.
	That was a mouthful.
	Again, just more lies.
	But here's the thing.
	California's the only oil company that's doing that to Georgia or Florida or these other states that have lower gas prices because of their policies.
	That's why people are paying more there.
	What Gavin Newsom wants to do, what he's doing in California, what Biden wants to do nationally is government dictated green energy policies.
	They want to kneecap fossil fuels and reliable energy.
	We've already seen what's happened in California.
	They have rolling blackouts.
	He actually implemented a mandate to buy electric vehicles.
	So pretty soon in California, you're not going to be able to buy a normal car.
	Only electric vehicles.
	And they celebrated that as like a great thing.
	A couple days later, there was a notice from the state government telling all EV owners, do not plug in your EV because they don't have enough grid capacity.
	So he is walking his people into a big time disaster.
	What Biden wants to do is he wants to take the California model.
	He wants to impose that nationally.
	He wants to take away your ability to purchase the car that you want.
	He wants to kneecap reliable energy.
	And he wants to bring these rolling blackouts all across the United States of America.
	It doesn't work.
	It's going to cause huge problems.
	We have more energy here.
	We can be the dominant energy producer in the world.
	And that's what we're going to do.
	Florida's not a big energy state.
	We have the Marcellus deal.
	We have the West Texas We have all of that.
	So let's do that.
	No forcing electric vehicles.
	We've got to take a break.
	Save the American automobile.
	Another break.
	When we come back, we'll continue the great state, red state, blue state debate.
	More with Governor Ron DeSantis, more Governor Gavin Newsom as we continue.
	Thank you for being with us from Alpharetta, Georgia.
	All right, guys, we're going to take a break.
	So we're going to go back to the chat.
	I want to take a moment to thank people who sent in super chats tonight.
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	Again, murders in California in 2022, 2,197 murders in Florida, 344.
	So look, Kevin Newsome definitely lied tonight.
	He lied about the border.
	He lied about gun violence.
	He lied about quality of life, but so did Ron DeSantis.
	I mean, people are fleeing Florida.
	We could pull up the Newsweek article, too, that recently just came out that shows that Florida seniors are having to flee Florida.
	If you type in Florida seniors flee Florida, you're going to see that they can't afford to live here anymore, okay?
	All these Floridians are leaving.
	So, now, let's see.
	If you type in people fleeing Florida because of the homeowner insurance crisis, we'll get the article pulled up right now.
	But, people are leaving Florida.
	They may not be going to California, but they are going to other states right now.
	So, there's a major problem with the homeowner insurance crisis.
	Someone said, great job, Laura.
	I dislike both guys, but great show.
	Are you guys enjoying this tonight?
	I hope that we can keep it fun.
	I hope that you're enjoying this and that it's also informative and educational.
	See right here, I got the receipts.
	Florida's retirees are fleeing.
	Here's where they're settling.
	And this was posted on November 26.
	Okay, so just a few days ago, just what?
	Four days ago, this article came out.
	Once thought of the ideal place to live out one's golden years, Florida is quickly losing favor with retirees.
	Remote workers and the wealthy are flocking to the state and driving up home prices, leaving those on a fixed income feeling the pinch.
	Talking about, you know, the rising homeowner insurance rates.
	So, Florida doesn't really have a great quality of living either.
	Let's go to the chat.
	I want to see what your, you know, what your comments are.
	Are you enjoying this tonight?
	Let's see.
	I like it, Laura.
	Let's see what else.
	Thank you, Laura, for streaming this without interrupting all the time like Crowder.
	Good job.
	Yeah, you know, I don't want to do a lot of talking during the debate.
	It's here.
	You know, we're playing bingo.
	So you see the bingo card in the bottom of the screen, and I'm going to have to definitely go for a run.
	Although in preparation for today, I did do a lot of steps.
	Let's see how many steps I did today.
	Because I ate pasta for dinner and you know.
	Italian food is very carb-y.
	It's very, very carb-y.
	So you gotta, like, be fit, you know?
	Alright, I have done 16,403 steps today.
	That's pretty impressive, you know?
	That is the equivalent of 7 miles.
	So I have already walked in preparation for tonight's show because I don't want to be fat.
	I went for a seven mile walk today in between all my working and pacing and so I wanted to burn off the calories.
	That's about 592 calories.
	Let's see how many calories are in one of these little snack packs.
	One pudding cup has 180 calories and it has 22 grams of sugar and 34 grams of carb.
	So that's a lot.
	That's a lot of carbs and sugar.
	I'm going to probably have to go home and walk another two miles or so before I go to bed if I'm going to burn some of this off and got to flush it out of your system with some water, too, because.
	I don't know.
	I can't be going around chasing Chris Christie, calling him a fat ass and then looking like a fat ass myself.
	All right, we're back.
	Welcome back to Hannity, the Great Red State Blue State Debate.
	We continue with Governor Gavin Newsom, Governor Ron DeSantis.
	According to the Department of Housing and Urban Development, these are the numbers for the homeless population in each of your states.
	It is a big problem around the country.
	In the state of California, it is 172,000.
	In Florida, it is 26,000.
	Now, the per capita numbers are pretty much the same.
	For California, it is 44 per 10,000 people, while Florida has 12 per 10,000 people.
	So, Governor DeSantis, I ask you, why the disparity?
	What are the policies you are implementing that is different from that of California?
	California's adopting leftist policies.
	Gavin Newsom was mayor of San Francisco.
	He put out a 10-year plan like 20 years ago.
	He was going to end homelessness.
	Then a few years later, he had another plan.
	And now he says he's going to do, and it's only gotten worse.
	In the last 10 years in California, the homeless has gone up 45%.
	It's gone down in Florida 45%.
	But it's caused a huge problem with quality of life in California.
	The people that flee always bring up this.
	They've really empowered lawlessness and drug use.
	And, you know, Gavin Newsom at one point tried to say that California was the freedom state.
	I just kind of laughed, like, you're locking people down, you're doing all this.
	But then I thought about, you know, California does have freedom that some people don't, that other states don't.
	You have the freedom to defecate in public in California.
	You have the freedom to pitch a tent on Sunset Boulevard.
	You have the freedom to create a homeless encampment under a freeway and even light it on fire.
	You have the freedom to have an open-air drug market and use drugs.
	You have the freedom, if you're an illegal alien, to get all these taxpayer benefits.
	So those are freedoms.
	They're not the freedoms our founding fathers envisioned, but they have contributed to the destruction of the quality of life in California, and the results speak for themselves.
	People are leaving the state because they have failed in addressing the homeless population.
	Well, I love my legal rant on freedom.
	I mean, here's a guy who's criminalizing teachers, criminalizing doctors, criminalizing librarians, and criminalizing women that seek their reproductive care.
	You're making it harder to vote.
	You're banning books.
	I mean, spare me this notion of freedom.
	Ask the folks at Disney about freedom and free enterprise.
	Ask the folks at the Special Olympics that you threatened to fine with 27 Here guys, as you can see on the screen here, Florida's DeSantis issues statewide stay-at-home order to curb coronavirus.
	So he locked the state down too.
	He's a liar.
	They're both liars, you guys.
	I'm not defending Gavin Newsom, but I'm showing you what a liar Ron DeSantis is.
	discriminating against the athletes.
	And I'm also on my phone reading your comments as well, following along to see what you're saying, so that you can see the graphics on the screen.
	I grew up working aid to adopt special kids.
	I've been working with special Olympians all my life.
	You wanted them to be ostracized.
	You threatened to find special Olympians with $27 million in fines.
	This is the way you treat.
	By the way, no, hold on.
	No, no, let me say this.
	I can handle that.
	I can handle it.
	I'm used to that.
	But you know what?
	Your attacks on the trans community, your attacks on the gay and lesbian community, you attack vulnerable communities, you attack women.
	Again, Ron, relax.
	I can handle it.
	I'm used to bullying.
	You're nothing but a bully.
	You're a bully.
	I understand that.
	Intimidating.
	You're a bully.
	No, you're a bully.
	What is this, like, elementary school?
	How well is it going for you?
	Why do you want him not to be able to compete?
	How well is this campaign going?
	Why do you not want them to be able to compete?
	He's not going to let me talk, so I'll talk to the American people.
	I don't understand why you'd want to discriminate against him.
	Again, I'll remind you, the blueprint for Florida has put Ron DeSantis 41 points down to Donald Trump as you try to get tough.
	Let's go back to homelessness.
	Let's go!
	I called this out in my monologue, guys.
	He just said the blueprint for Florida has put you down 41 points behind.
	The difference is I'm the first governor in California history to take this head on.
	He's 41 points down behind Trump, guys.
	I love it.
	I like watching Gavin Newsom call him out.
	We've got 68,000 people off the streets, close to 6,000 encampments we've gotten off the streets.
	We've also invested in unprecedented resources in reforming our behavioral health system.
	Ron has literally the worst mental health system in America, forgive me, outside of Mississippi.
	And so with all due respect to being lectured on some of these topics, Ron DeSantis is not the one I'm going to be listening to.
	One 30-second response.
	Well, I'm looking at total time, Governor DeSantis, about two minutes.
	Here we go.
	Here's the receipts to Ron DeSantis in second place in Iowa, 41 points behind Donald Trump.
	Well, this is an app where they plot the human feces that are found on the streets of San Francisco.
	And you see how almost the whole thing is covered because that is what has happened in one of the previous greatest cities this country's ever had.
	Human feces is now a fact of life, except I think it's almost done too, because they said 90 minutes, so... I'm surprised they haven't talked about Trump more.
	They lined the streets with Chinese flags.
	They didn't put American flags there.
	Surprised they haven't talked about Trump more.
	So they're willing to do it for a communist dictator, but they're not willing to do it for their own country.
	I want to get in with the limited time we have left.
	I want to get in with the limited time we have left.
	There are two very important issues we have not hit.
	After the Hamas terror attacks on October the 7th, we have seen what is nothing short of a disturbing outbreak of virulent hatred, anti-Semitism around the world in the halls of our Congress, on American streets, on college campuses.
	Last month outside in Sydney Opera House in In Australia, we've seen it all over Europe, but in Australia, anti-Israeli protesters literally in this day and age chanting, gas the Jews, F the Jews.
	In American cities, we have protesters calling for global Islamic war and demanding that Israel be wiped off the map, or in the words of Congresswoman Tlaib, from the river to the sea.
	Israel, meanwhile, is vowing to eradicate the terrorist group Hamas.
	But according to a report in the New York Times this week, U.S.
	officials have warned Israel that they need more to fight more surgically in Gaza.
	Governor Newsom, 30 seconds for you.
	We have to cut back on time.
	How can Israel win the war against this terrorist group using surgical strikes and directions from Hamas?
	I visited Israel.
	I met with families, hostages.
	I saw videos of children being killed in front of their parents.
	Parents being killed in front of their children.
	I saw a beheading with a garden hoe.
	This is not complicated to me.
	This is a fight between good and evil.
	Hamas is a terrorist organization and they need to be eliminated.
	Not just for the people of Israel and Jews around the world, but for the Palestinians themselves.
	But when it comes to the issue of anti-Semitism, you just mentioned a lot of things that have been occurring on Ron DeSantis' watch.
	The Nazis.
	Oh, give me a break.
	Did he just say, give me a break?
	He countenanced anti-Semitism, and now he's finally talking a big game ever since October.
	Did he just say, give me a break?
	I was harassed by those Nazis, Ron.
	You said nothing on these issues.
	Look at the record.
	Hamas runs nothing shorter than a second holocaust.
	They want to destroy Israel and wipe every single Jew off the map.
	Israel has every right to defend itself to the hilt.
	Biden should not be kneecapping them in any way, shape, or form.
	And by the way, Biden stranded a lot of American citizens over there who were trying to get home, so I did an executive order in Florida, and we sent planes over to Israel right in the aftermath of October 7th, and we saved over 700 Americans, mostly Floridians, but not all, because Biden wouldn't do it.
	Finally, Biden started dumping people in Greece, and then they were sending a bill to the Americans just to get to Greece.
	If you come to this country illegally, they will pay to fly you all over the place.
	They'll put you up in a hotel at no expense.
	But yet our own citizens fleeing a war zone, they're going to send you a bill.
	Joe Biden failed those people, and we stepped up and got it.
	Let me ask you, I want to turn to anti-Semitism.
	I want to turn to the issue, gentlemen, of China.
	I talk about this often.
	Intellectual property theft, unfair trade practices.
	China has been hostile to our fighter jets in international airspace, hostile to our Navy in international waterways.
	We know all about the China spy balloon that happened eight days right across the United States over military installations.
	The Communist Chinese, they have nationals buying up thousands of acres of branch land, farmland, and land near military installations.
	Their hostility towards Taiwan.
	They are, Governor DeSantis, our number one geopolitical foe.
	I don't see that the Biden administration has been tough with them.
	What would you do differently?
	Well, first, in Florida, we banned China from buying land in our state, because you're right.
	You don't want them buying farmland or land near military bases.
	So we acted.
	We also got the Confucius Institutes out of our universities.
	China should not be involved in our universities at all.
	What you need to do is you need to have hard power in the Indo-Pacific to deter China's ambitions.
	You need to take the economy, and we need to decouple from China.
	We're dependent on them for so many things.
	And then finally, we need to get serious about their influence in this country.
	They shouldn't be able to buy farmland anywhere.
	I can tell you this, I would not go to China and grovel in front of Xi like Gavin Newsom did.
	He says China's a partner on climate change.
	China's adding two new coal plants every year.
	China's laughing at us with what they're doing.
	So yes, they're the number one threat we face, and we need to take it seriously, and Joe Biden is not doing that.
	It's just, this is just a reminder, uh, you know, I think it's a question some people are probably asking.
	I know Nikki Haley's campaign is asking, when are you going to drop out and at least give Nikki Haley a shot to take down Donald Trump in this nomination?
	She laid you out.
	You're a walking hypocrite.
	You're a walking hypocrite on the issue of China.
	This is a guy that was looking for direct foreign trade from China, was doing trade shows.
	That's already been debunked.
	You talk about the liberal Wow!
	fact checkers did that.
	Donald Trump himself today called you Red Ron for a reason because of your complete hypocrisy.
	All right, we're almost out of time.
	I confronted Xi on the issue of fentanyl, Ron.
	I confronted them on human rights.
	I absolutely did with the foreign minister and the vice president and other leaders in China.
	You're You talk a big game.
	Meanwhile... We're over time.
	Final question.
	Governor DeSantis, we owe you about 90 seconds.
	9-1-1, I want to report a murder!
	Murder!
	It's an absolute murder!
	It's been a very passionate debate tonight.
	Actually, it's been fun to be a part of.
	I think the American people will decide.
	Governing philosophies could not be more different.
	But let me ask you this, kind of a fun question.
	You both clearly love your states.
	You visited each other's state.
	Governor DeSantis, you can take as much time as you want.
	You have an extra 90 seconds.
	What is your favorite thing about the state of California?
	I'd give him five minutes for this.
	That's a good question.
	All right, we'll stay longer.
	Five minutes, Governor.
	When I got orders as a Navy Lieutenant to go to Naval Amphibious Base Coronado, I had not spent any real time in California in my life.
	Florida native, and I'm very proud of the state, but I got down there, and that strand is one of the most beautiful places I've ever been, and then all up and down, just a tremendous coastline.
	I do believe California has more natural advantages than any state in the country, which is why, when you have so many people leaving on net, That's hard to do.
	People don't want to leave there because it really is such a beautiful area.
	And I'm proud of the military installations that are there.
	I'm proud of what the Navy's been able to do in conjunction with the state.
	It was really important duty.
	It really helped forge me as an individual and as an American.
	And so I'll always have very, very fond memories of that nice strand down there in Southern California.
	I love that.
	I don't know what you love about California.
	You used to call California the coast of dreams.
	By the way, what do you love about Florida?
	What I love about your question is the comedy in the question.
	Meaning, you know what?
	We all want to be loved.
	We need to be loved.
	We all want to be protected, respected, and connected.
	I think there is a unity from here.
	Respected, connected.
	Ron, I have no doubt Ron DeSantis loves this country.
	I love this country.
	It's not about red versus blue.
	It's red, white, and blue.
	The United States of America.
	And I think we're all better off and we're all better off.
	And so I appreciate this conversation.
	I appreciate you, Ron, being a family man.
	You've got three incredible kids.
	I appreciate your wife, your sacrifice, and I appreciate your military service.
	But I also appreciate we do have fundamental differences about the fate and future of this country.
	And that's why I'm going to be working so hard To get Joe Biden and Kamala Harris re-elected in 2024?
	He's charming, you guys.
	He's got that suave.
	I mean, I was just thrown off guard by what he said.
	It's a beautiful thing, what he said.
	I don't even like Ron, but I'm drawn to this personality of Gavin Newsom.
	I'm never going to vote for him, but... Joe Biden should show up to a debate.
	I have another 20 minutes, and I've got a lot of questions.
	You want to stay?
	Let's just do an extended hour.
	I'm happy to do it.
	This has been fun.
	I think it's been fun.
	Are they seriously going to do another extended hour?
	I'm sorry to the guests that I've invited.
	I've got to take a break though in the meantime.
	We've got to pay some bills.
	Not a cheap set we built for y'all.
	I hope you like it.
	Courtesy of your favorite channel, Fox News.
	And you do admit you watch all things.
	We'll take a break.
	They've agreed to stay.
	Well, that's, I guess, a debate on the fly.
	We'll continue on the other side and later have live post-debate coverage.
	Are they really going to do another hour?
	The great red state-blue state debate as we continue.
	Wow.
	Another hour.
	I wasn't expecting that.
	They said 90 minutes, and now they're going to do another hour?
	That's interesting.
	Wow.
	Well, let's go back to the chat and take your questions.
	What do you guys think?
	Who's winning the debate?
	Press one if you think that Gavin Newsom is winning the debate.
	Press two if you think that Ron DeSantis is winning the debate.
	Somebody said you need more meatballs.
	Yeah, you guys.
	I need to get the producer.
	You guys might need to call in more meatballs because if I have to stay here for another hour, I have one more meatball left.
	I don't know if it's going to last much longer.
	You guys.
	One more meatball.
	That's a lot.
	But I've been down in meatballs all night, so I don't really know how long this is going to last.
	I don't know.
	It's kind of cold, too.
	I don't want to get food poisoning live on air.
	There's no bathroom breaks.
	We might need to heat it up.
	Press 1 if you think Gavin Newsom won, 2 if you think Ron DeSantis won, 3 if Trump 2024.
	I don't give a shit about Kevin Newsom or Ron DeSantis.
	All righty.
	I don't want to get food poisoning, so we're going to go heat that meatball up.
	This is a very long debate.
	Oh, God.
	Three.
	All right, three.
	Trump is winning the debate.
	That's right.
	Trump, Trump, Trump.
	Someone said, is Ron as autistic as I think he is?
	I think so.
	Everybody says Trump is winning.
	Everybody says Trump.
	We gotta post on TruSocial and let Trump know that the Laura Loomer Unleashed official chat poll says that he won the debate tonight between Gavin Newsom and Ron DeSantis.
	Donald Trump is such an alpha boss.
	Okay that he actually has Gavin Newsome simping for him tonight on stage at this debate.
	He's actually calling him out.
	So this is pretty great.
	This is really great.
	All right.
	Any questions?
	You guys?
	I see your numbers.
	We got some super chats, too.
	Let's go to some more of the super chats.
	Let's see.
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	You're a bully.
	No, you're a bully.
	Laugh my ass off.
	It's like watching a couple of the Special Olympics contestants in the movie The Ringer argue.
	Yeah.
	Somebody said, uh, okay, Bridget 209 Trump, $10.
	Nothing beats a Loomer watch party.
	Looking forward to more.
	Alrighty, let's see what Trump is saying on True Social while we're waiting for this.
	Scroll down.
	Is he commenting on it?
	Scroll down some more.
	My direct, scroll up.
	My direct boss, Michael, would like to call you and your dad to thank you for being such great clients for all the business we've been doing together.
	Let's see.
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	Business Insider.
	Deutsche Bank executives practically swooned over Donald Trump's real estate fortune according to internal documents made public by the defense in his New York civil fraud trial.
	Trump was seen as a wealthy, fiscally responsible whale who could open doors to his billions and his network of fellow moguls.
	Look at Trump posted judging Goran's wife.
	See?
	Yep, another.
	See, today Trump posted a bunch of my posts.
	You remember when you were watching Loomer Unleashed a couple weeks ago.
	See that?
	Donald Trump retreuthed Laura Loomer.
	Exclusive!
	I have uncovered screenshots from the ex-account of Dawn Marie Angoran, the wife of leftist NYC judge Arthur Angoran.
	You see that?
	That's Trump's true social page.
	He reposted that today.
	So, that's pretty cool.
	You know, I like seeing my stuff.
	Another one!
	Another Donald Trump Retruth Lore Loomer.
	Gee, sure looks like Ian O'Goron, the son of leftist judge Arthur O'Goron, is the man next to a New York Attorney General.
	Scroll down, too, because he shared some of my articles.
	Another one!
	He posted so many of my posts today.
	I love Donald Trump.
	Oh my God, another one!
	Look, that's like four Loomer posts in a row.
	Bro, that's so nice of him.
	Oh, another one today.
	Loomerd.com.
	Exclusive how, scroll up, exclusive how leftist judging Goran is making Trump's New York City fraud trial a family affair.
	So look, Donald Trump reads my website, okay?
	Make sure that you are also bookmarking Lumerd.com and LumerReport.com.
	As I announced the other day, I just launched my own news aggregation site, LumerReport.com.
	That's LumerReport.com and you can get news there.
	It's news aggregation and you can get access to all of my articles and A lot of stuff.
	So let's see what's going on right now.
	Fox News, the traitor, former press secretary, Kayleigh McEnany.
	You sourced them.
	And what the public saw was the sharpest, best messenger in the Democrat Party.
	I maintain that's Gavin Newsom, unable to message the rotting pile of facts.
	Kayleigh McEnany just said that Gavin Newsom was the best messenger for the Democrat Party.
	DeSantis had some really strong moments, particularly when he said, look, I talked to a guy who said, I love the employment down here.
	I love the wages down here.
	I love the state of Florida, how safe it is.
	Oh, by the way, that was your father-in-law, Gavin Newsom, also pulling out the map of the feces in San Francisco.
	Another strong and powerful moment.
	So I think the clear winner, Ron DeSantis, in a nearly impossible task for Gavin Newsom.
	Let's get your take, Ari Fleischer.
	Well, I think watching this, you just realize Democrats are from Mars and Republicans are from Venus.
	They speak totally different languages.
	Ron DeSantis' language was one of economics, gasoline, six, seven dollars a gallon, the lockdowns in California.
	It was very practical, very focused on people's daily lives.
	I mean, honestly, Newsom's beatdown of DeSantis should be like, And in contribution to the Trump campaign.
	That was so brutal.
	- That was so brutal. - I don't like the way you talk about migrants.
	We have to fight for women.
	Everything he says is about a group, an ethnic group, a chunk of Americans.
	It's not about America.
	That's the language that Democrats respond to.
	So you really have two different approaches for what America needs.
	I will say this.
	Gavin Newsom is much more articulate, fast on his feet and sharper than Joe Biden.
	And I told you, did I not tell you, did I not tell you in my monologue immediately following this debate?
	They were going to say Gavin Newsom is much quicker than Joe Biden.
	That was what this debate was all about, you guys.
	It's a way for them to start saying, you know, Gavin Newsom should be the nominee instead of Joe Biden.
	He just said it.
	He just said it.
	You heard it here, guys.
	I've been saying it for weeks that this is what they were going to do.
	I said it in my monologue tonight.
	Go back and watch.
	Here we go!
	Actually it was separate from that.
	I could just tell you in the discussion leading up to this that this was really a state versus state and although clearly I think having a time... I guess they're not doing a second hour.
	They were just trying to placate the audience.
	They're just doing live coverage.
	So, first off, congrats, Sean.
	I thought you did a great job, and you framed this thing the right way.
	A state versus a state, and both of these candidates, who are governors, were very passionate, patriotic.
	They defended their records.
	I think Kayleigh and Mr. Fleischer are right.
	I think what Ari said at the end there is probably most useful, and maybe the utility level is highest.
	Who did best for their parties tonight?
	I think one of the things, and Kayleigh said at the outset, there's no doubt that Gavin Newsom will be the most important, the most forceful and articulate advocate on behalf of Democrats in this 2024 election.
	Look at the front cover.
	Let's turn the feed off and we'll just go.
	The front page of Judge Report right now.
	Newsom makes national debut.
	I told you, you see guys, look, this is all about Gavin Newsom, right?
	They wanted to make the national debut so that he can be the Democrat nominee, not Joe Biden.
	And that's the purpose of this debate.
	They wanted, they know that Ron DeSantis is done, but they wanted to say, wow, look, Gavin is so much better than Joe Biden.
	So let's go back over to the, oh, scroll down.
	Look at Florida GOP chair.
	This is Judge Report.
	I mean, we're gonna, we're replacing them with my Luma Report, but scroll up.
	Florida GOP chair accused of sexual battery by alleged menage a trois lover.
	So, that's Christian Ziegler, and of course, that's the story that came out today, of course.
	My producer and I were just, well, we just saw Christian the other day at the Florida Summit, and so he was there with his kids, and my producer goes, hey, is that guy that was in the news today, the guy that we were talking to that we saw at the Summit?
	And I was like, yeah, that was him.
	Let's go to LumaReport.com.
	You can see this is going to be the new site to take over, Drudge.
	LumaReport, real news for truth-seekers.
	Be sure that you visit LumaReport.com and you bookmark it and make it your homepage.
	The headline story, Trump defies unconstitutional gag order from Democrat judge.
	So as soon as Judge Angoran today said, you know, we need to reinstate this gag order, Trump defied it, okay, like a boss, and he shared my article.
	So it's pretty great today and now CNN, there's a CNN article about it today and of course they don't want to say my name.
	It's like Voldemort, man.
	I broke this story and Trump posted my stuff and CNN and all these liberal outlets will not say my name.
	They will literally not say my name.
	So you can see, you can scroll down after talking about the wife, right?
	Let's see.
	There's another story, too, that was texted to me while I was actually doing this.
	Here.
	It's just unbelievable.
	They don't want to mention where it came from, of course, and nobody wants to look into it.
	And then today the wife deleted her account judging Goran's wife.
	And of course, for Loomer Unleashed, right?
	See, judge attacks, Trump attacks wife of New York judge after gag order reinstated in court.
	Scroll down.
	Scroll down some more.
	See, they won't even mention it.
	They don't even want to mention my social media posts.
	Oh well.
	You know, they never want to give credit for anything, even though I broke the story.
	They just hate me, the media.
	They really do.
	Well, before we sign off for the night, let's take a few more questions.
	Let's go to the chat.
	I wanna take some more questions.
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	Someone said, love you, Laura.
	You're awesome.
	You always do a great job.
	Oh, thank you so much.
	That's so sweet.
	Loomer for Press Secretary.
	We should just get t-shirts made.
	Do you guys think that I should start selling t-shirts that say Laura Loomer for Press Secretary?
	And we could just start, like, we could just put those on the merch site.
	Laura Loomer for Press Secretary.
	I think that that would be great.
	Laura, by participating in this debate, do you think DeSantis proved his allegiance to the establishment globalists?
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Someone said, great job, Laura.
	Thanks for not talking over the debate.
	Yeah, there's nothing more obnoxious than watching a debate when somebody's talking over every two seconds.
	Somebody said, yes, I will buy 10 of those shirts.
	All right, that's it.
	Okay, we're gonna do it.
	We gotta put that on the list, you guys.
	We gotta get Laura Loomer for press secretary shirts, all right?
	I'm gonna wear that shirt everywhere.
	Laura Loomer for press secretary, that is so funny.
	Somebody said, Laura Loomer for everything.
	Oh, I love that, that's so nice.
	You put them to shame, Laura.
	When you find Laura, other media makes me sick.
	Laura is the cure.
	Thank you.
	Let's see.
	That t-shirt would be great.
	A bestseller.
	Someone said, I'm current Trump.
	Trump one said, I'm currently funding your locals.
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	Take that up with the support because I don't manage the support there.
	Look at we're on the front page of rumble.
	You guys, we are on the front page of rumble.
	Isn't that cool?
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	Someone said, love you, Laura.
	Just disagree with you on a lot of what happened tonight.
	Look, we can all have...
	Different, you know, opinions about what happened tonight.
	Like losing my voice from talking so much these last few days.
	Also, it is Thursday today, so just so you know, next Tuesday there is no Loomer Unleashed.
	And there's no Loomer Unleashed next Tuesday because next Tuesday I will be flying to Alabama because I will be reporting live from the fourth GOP presidential debate.
	And so I will be... Rumble, actually, I can now announce this, is letting me broadcast from their studio since they are the official livestream partner for the RNC.
	And so I will be streaming from 3 to 5 p.m.
	Eastern before the debate, which starts at 7 p.m.
	Eastern, I believe.
	And so if you want to catch Loomer Unleashed, I will be doing it on Wednesday of next week as opposed to Tuesday at 3 p.m.
	Eastern to 5 p.m.
	Eastern.
	And then, of course, I'll be doing debate coverage as well afterwards.
	And so stay tuned for that.
	I'm going to be traveling to Alabama.
	It was just announced today that Trump isn't going to be in Alabama for the debate, but the day before, he's going to be doing a town hall in, I believe, Davenport, Iowa.
	And so, and then the next day, the day of the debate, he'll be at a fundraiser, because why should he have to go to the debate when he could just have a fundraiser?
	Everybody knows that he's going to be the nominee.
	And then, of course, he's doing a town hall in Iowa, even though Ron DeSantis is always saying, oh, Trump's never in Iowa.
	He's always in Iowa.
	What are you talking about, Ron?
	So that will be fun.
	I've never been to Alabama before.
	So I'm excited.
	It's going to be.
	It's going to.
	Is it the Roll Tide crowd?
	All right.
	I'm not really into football, but.
	But you know, it's I'm going to have to go to Tuscaloosa and it's going to be at the University of Alabama.
	So if you are in Alabama or if you go to the University of Alabama, I will be coming to your hood on Tuesday and I will be there Wednesday.
	So be sure that you come by media row and say hello because I will be there.
	At University of Alabama streaming live.
	So mark your calendars.
	No loomer unleashed this coming Tuesday, but there will be loomer unleashed from 3 to 5 p.m.
	Eastern on Wednesday.
	Somebody said, I love your raspy voice.
	Oh, thank you.
	you.
	I'm glad that somebody likes it.
	I'm glad somebody likes my raspy Yenta voice.
	Somebody said, Laura, we're going to miss you.
	What are you doing to us?
	How are you going to survive?
	Well, I'll be there on Wednesday.
	It's okay.
	You guys will survive without me after, you know, Tuesday.
	You can catch me on Wednesday.
	And then Thursday, I guess I'll be flying back from Alabama, so I'll have to do the show Friday.
	So this coming week, Loomer Unleashed will be on Wednesdays and Wednesday and Friday.
	So just mark your calendars.
	It's usually Tuesday and Thursday, but because of the travel schedule, got to change it up a bit this week, you guys.
	Someone said, is the debate at that university?
	Yeah, it's actually at the University of Alabama.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Minuteman45 said, you are amazing, Laura.
	You motivate a veteran like me to stay resilient to this tyranny.
	You're a national treasure.
	Oh, that's so nice.
	Thank you.
	Appreciate that.
	Somebody, Warnard13 said, Alabama is getting lumered.
	Yeah.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Why is DeSantis running unless they take care of Trump being off the ballot?
	Yeah.
	Look, like I said, they're going to either try to kill Trump.
	We've already talked about that, unfortunately.
	Or they're going to try to have to run Gavin Newsom because they already know that Trump will beat Biden.
	I mean, look.
	It's definitely going to be the situation.
	Is it CST or EST Wednesday?
	It's Eastern.
	It's 3 to 5 Eastern.
	Con 6464, Laura, please be safe.
	I wish you safe travels.
	I will be traveling to Europe on Wednesday, and I'll be watching you in Europe.
	Will not miss the show.
	That's so great.
	I'm so happy that I have loyal, dedicated supporters like you that are going to take me all the way across the sea.
	So I hope you have a fun trip in Europe.
	Stay safe.
	There's a lot of jihadists that are planning attacks on Christmas markets and a holiday celebration, so be safe in Europe right now.
	It's not really a safe time right now around the world.
	But, yeah, I'll be in Alabama for two days.
	It'll be fun.
	Somebody said, would you vote for DeSantis over Newsom?
	No, I wouldn't.
	I would write Trump in.
	I'm not voting for anybody but Trump.
	I've already said this.
	I don't care.
	If they try to lock Trump up and they try to take him off the ballot, I will literally get a bulk order of Sharpies and stand outside every single polling location and recruit people to stand outside polling locations and give big black Sharpies to voters across the country so they can write Trump across their ballot, okay?
	That is what I will do.
	I'm only voting for Donald Trump.
	Look it.
	Ultra MAGA.
	Ultra MAGA.
	That's what that means.
	Okay?
	That means you only vote for Donald Trump.
	Someone, Khan said, my mom's not doing so good.
	I'm spending Christmas with her.
	I'm worried, but I know God's on my side and God will take care of me, but thank you very much.
	Well, best wishes to your mom.
	I hope she gets better soon.
	Sorry to hear that.
	Got some more super chats tonight as well, I see.
	$20, $10, $10.
	$20, $10, $10.
	Let's click on those.
	H. Marquise, $11.
	Love your work.
	Keep it up.
	Thank you for the $10 super chat.
	Thank you.
	I firmly believe the Democrats running Newsom will backfire the same way running Ron did.
	We'll see.
	We shall see.
	Return of the Donald.
	Oh, Florida Hustler.
	Thank you so much, Florida Hustler, for that amazing call the other night.
	I actually clipped it, and we put it up on my ex account, so you can check that out.
	He said, Ron creates a bill for $2 billion reinsurance relief bill and alleviating skyrocketing insurance rates, and he triples the rates.
	WTFFF.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I was going to make a sarcastic joke, but if anyone thinks Hamas shouldn't be exterminated like the vermin that they are, then bring it...
	I'm armed.
	Who do I think is Trump's biggest threat in either party?
	I don't think that there are either parties.
	I think it's a big uniparty and they're all just working together.
	I mean, look, Hillary Clinton's donors are now backing Nikki Haley, okay?
	Jamie Dimon is a Democrat who gave a million dollars to the SPLC after Charlottesville to go after Trump and his supporters.
	And today he said, I encourage all my rich Democrat friends to donate to Nikki Haley because if the Democrats are not likable enough to win, then support a Republican that isn't a MAGA Republican.
	That's what he said.
	You could pull it up.
	The New York Times had a story about it today.
	New York Times, Jamie Dimon, Nikki Haley.
	Big story today.
	We covered it, too, on my website, but let's just show the New York Times report so that... Nikki Haley, Jamie Dimon, New York Times.
	And then Trump, of course, slammed him, so you could pull that one up.
	Trump slams Jamie Dimon.
	Jamie Dimon urges donors, business leaders, help Nikki Haley.
	There we go.
	NBC picked it up, too.
	We'll get this up on the screen so y'all can see that.
	So look, JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon told an audience of business leaders to help Nikki Haley's 2024 Republican campaign for president.
	We saw that.
	Get a choice on the Republican side that might be better than Donald Trump, he said at the Diamond and that Diamond said at the conference hosted by the New York Times DealBook franchise.
	In the audience was hedge fund veteran Bill Ackman, billionaire Elon Musk, media titan David Zaslav, and Disney CEO Bob Iger were all scheduled to speak later in the day.
	So.
	Um, Elon Musk was asked shortly after this whether he would vote for Biden or, uh, Biden or Trump.
	I think we have that clip actually pulled up.
	Maybe, uh, if not, I posted it on my ex account, but Elon Musk said he was asked, would you vote for Biden or Trump?
	And he said, I wouldn't vote for Biden.
	So you can listen to that clip as well.
	You guys, don't forget to like and share this stream so that other people can watch it as well.
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	You know, one thing that I noticed tonight, too, is that Sean Hannity didn't press Ron DeSantis at all on any of his lies.
	So it is really funny that...
	This bingo card that we had here tonight, saved by Fox News, because he was.
	He was really saved by Fox News, right?
	It's very unfortunate.
	Very unfortunate to see that.
	Alright, we're gonna play this clip now of Elon Musk being asked whether he would support Joe Biden or Donald Trump.
	Names to be exposed, as you know.
	No, I think that's... I would not vote for Biden.
	You'd vote for Trump?
	I'm not saying I'd vote for Trump, but I mean... This is definitely a difficult choice here.
	Would you vote for Nikki Haley?
	Nikki Haley, by the way, wants all social media I'm not going to vote for some pro-censorship candidate.
	I would not vote for Biden.
	You'd vote for Trump.
	I'm not going to vote for some pro-censorship candidate.
	I would not vote for Biden.
	You'd vote for Trump.
	I'm not saying I'd vote for Trump, but I mean...
	This is definitely a difficult choice here. - You know.
	Would you vote for Nikki Haley?
	Nikki Haley, by the way, wants all social media names to be exposed, as you know.
	No, I think that's outrageous.
	Yeah, no, I'm not going to vote for some pro-censorship candidate.
	I would not vote for Biden.
	Oh, it's a difficult choice, isn't it?
	Oh, I don't know.
	I definitely would not vote for Joe Biden.
	Nobody wants to vote for Biden!
	Even Chris Cuomo was on Patrick McDavid's show, I saw, and said something very similar.
	So people are now starting to have this mentality of, wow, I don't... I may not like Trump's personality, but I'm gonna maybe vote for him because Biden has just completely driven our country into the ground.
	Like, it's actually starting to scare all of these asshole elites who have trashed Donald Trump to make millions of dollars, and now they're, like, really freaked out because the country's literally on life support, so...
	I think some of these people are starting to have second thoughts, but.
	Let's take a couple more questions because, you know, we have been streaming now for three hours, and got to get ready for everything this coming week as well.
	I'll also be doing Roger Stone's show, his WABC radio show, this Sunday, so be sure that you tune in to that at 5.30 p.m.
	Eastern.
	Tomorrow at 1 p.m.
	Eastern, I'll be live on the Mark Kaye Show, and so lots of stuff going on.
	Lots of stuff.
	No days off.
	Even on days when I don't do Luma Unleashed, I have a lot of content, but we will be traveling to Alabama, which I'm really excited for because I'm really excited to be on the ground and cover the debate.
	It's going to be the official pro-Trump stream because Donald Trump doesn't have any official campaign surrogates going.
	And so the Loomer Unleashed stream will 100% be the exclusive pro-Trump stream at the RNC debate.
	And Rumble has invited me to stream from their studio as the official sponsor of the RNC debate because I am a Rumble content creator.
	So you can see Rumble will be the exclusive RNC livestream provider for the fourth debate, and I will be there as one of their exclusive hosts for content in their pre-debate stream.
	And I'm the last one before the debate starts, which is really great because that means it's going to be front page, right on the front page of Rumble.
	Since it's their official event, it's not me just doing my own stream.
	I was actually invited by Rumble to come out For the debate, which is exciting.
	So thanks to Rumble for the invitation.
	I'm really looking forward to it.
	Somebody said it's not Biden.
	and it's Obama.
	Somebody said, my niece is the FIMU sorority at Alabama.
	They're mostly conservative.
	You should go visit their house.
	Well, I've never been to a sorority house before.
	I don't know what a sorority house is like because I really wasn't into all that stuff when I was in college.
	I was a bit of a nerd.
	But, um, yeah, come find me.
	I'll be there.
	I'll be there.
	So, I mean, I'm going to be working, but if she wants to stop by the Rumble booth, we'll say hi.
	Someone said, I've just found you, Laura.
	Love this channel.
	Thank you, DJT2024.
	Oh, amazing.
	I'm so glad you love the channel.
	Thanks so much.
	Be sure that you share it.
	Tell your friends.
	Nikki6512 said, You work all the time, Laura.
	Unlike our lazy house GOP, worthless, they all are MAGA Trump.
	That is true.
	That's why I don't have a voice right now, because I've been working so much that I've lost my voice.
	I can't get off the phone.
	I can't stop streaming and now I've lost my voice.
	Hope I got a. Events this weekend, too, that I have to go to.
	And so hopefully I actually have my voice for the debate next week.
	All righty, everybody.
	Well, that's a wrap.
	I really appreciate everybody who tuned in tonight.
	We had a really great show.
	A lot of fun.
	I'm going to have to go work off all these snack packs and.
	Hope that I can still fit into my pants later.
	Hopefully, you know, I love blaming Ron DeSantis for everything, so now I get to blame him for my weight gain, too, if I end up gaining weight from these snack packs and meatballs tonight.
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	No Loomer Unleashed on Tuesday, but it will be Wednesday from three to 5 PM Eastern.
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	It's news aggregation, right?
	So you're able to get all types of headlines and all types of news, and it's an I think that you guys will find that very useful.
	Real News for Truth Seekers, and if you scroll down at the bottom as well, it has all of the Trump events too.
	So, it's a place where you can get a lot of news, and you can also take polls, and you can read my exclusive reports, reports from other journalists, and then also see, you see Donald Trump on True Social.
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	because we are ultra MAGA here over at Loomer Unleashed.
	So with that, I want to thank all of you for tuning in to my special live debate night coverage of this ridiculous debate between California Governor Gavin Newsom and our absentee Governor Ron DeSantis.
	It was a pleasure.
	It was fun.
	I hope we're able to spend a lot more time like this together, and hopefully it's when we're watching the debates between Donald Trump and whoever the official Democrat nominee is going to be since these primary debates and debates between non-entities, right, are kind of a waste of time.
	But I do predict that Gavin Newsom is now going to be talked about more as a possible replacement for Joe Biden, and that's why I wanted to have this coverage tonight because the media is not going to show you how duplicitous they are They're not going to explain to you their technique of deception and how they're trying to, you know, pull the blanket over your eyes right now.
	This was done as a way to slowly push out Biden and introduce Gavin Newsom on a national stage.
	So hopefully I opened your eyes tonight.
	But with that, see you next week on Loomer Unleashed, and I hope you all have a great night.
	Thanks for watching.
	There is a young female journalist, conservative journalist, by the name of Laura Loomer.
	If America's men acted like Laura Loomer, our problems would be fixed in about five minutes.
	Chained herself to square.
	Is she chained?

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