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Nov. 3, 2023 - Loomer Unleashed - Laura Loomer

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EP6: EXPOSED: Soros's Corrupt Colorado Courtroom Plot to Remove Trump From 2024 BallotEP6: EXPOSED: Soros's Corrupt Colorado Courtroom Plot to Remove Trump From 2024 Ballot

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	Thank you.
	I'm your host, Laura Loomer.
	On tonight's show, I'll be taking a closer look at the ongoing lawfare campaign against President Donald Trump.
	The latest chapter is currently unfolding in Denver, Colorado, where the Deep State and Never Trumpers have united in an attempt to prohibit President Trump's name from appearing on the ballot in the 2024 presidential election.
	You see, their plan is to once again try to hang the January 6th protests around President Trump's neck and to re-litigate President Trump's second impeachment of which he was fully acquitted.
	And they're doing so by using an often overlooked section of the 14th Amendment.
	Specifically, Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
	This is just another episode in the long-running saga of calculated lawfare against President Trump.
	Since assuming office after the 2016 election, he has faced an incessant chain of lawsuits, criminal charges, media smears, and impeachments.
	Understand that this is part of a multi-pronged political attack.
	It is being led by an all-star swamp lineup of the sleaziest lawyers and political operatives to call DC home.
	Their intent is threefold.
	In their best-case scenario, they want to legally prevent Trump from ever holding office ever again.
	Should that fail, they know that by keeping him bogged down in court proceedings, they are indirectly damaging his campaign by forcing him to spend his time in the courtroom and his campaign cash on litigation.
	Every single second and dollar that President Trump has to waste on these bogus witch hunts is one less second or dollar that he could have been spent on the campaign trail.
	Should all else fail, the swamp creatures know that these lawsuits will inevitably damage the reputation and legacy of President Trump.
	For them, it's a win-win scenario, so they will simply continue to throw lawsuit after lawsuit at him until something sticks, and the establishment Uniparty donor class will keep lighting their cash on fire by donating it to rhinos like Rhonda Sanctimonious, Nikki Haley, Chris Christie's, and others, just so that the crowded 2024 GOP primary field isn't cleared.
	This should infuriate you.
	It infuriates me.
	And it should also scare you.
	Donald Trump is fortunate enough to be able to afford the lawyers and fees associated with fending off these attacks.
	Imagine how devastating a lawfare campaign like this would be on an ordinary person.
	Were you to become the target of something similar, you would have your entire life destroyed.
	You would be forced to sell your home and all of your possessions just so that you could afford the legal fees to stay out of jail.
	You would be fired from your career, and you would probably struggle to ever hold down a job ever again.
	Also, your marriage and your family would certainly be strained if not completely wrecked.
	And if you're single, good luck finding somebody who wants to date you.
	The state has the power to make your life a living hell if they so desire.
	That is obviously not how the system is supposed to work.
	But it is sadly what it has become.
	I myself have been subjected to living this nightmare via extreme censorship campaigns that left me debanked, silenced, defamed, and unable to make a living for several years.
	I earned the title of most banned woman in the world due to the censorship and election interference that I was subjected to.
	When I ran for United States Congress in 2020 and 2022, I made history as the first deplatformed federal candidate for office, and I was the only candidate in the nation to be denied access to create or even have any type of campaign social media accounts.
	I warned that what happened to me would eventually happen to President Trump and others if the GOP didn't begin to take election interference seriously, and I was correct.
	And so I empathize with President Trump and others like the January 6th political prisoners who are having their lives destroyed by a weaponized government and a two-tiered banana republic justice system, or rather an injustice system.
	And for this case in Colorado that is playing out in a Denver courtroom this week, the entire proceeding revolves around January 6th.
	The argument, which originated in a lawsuit filed by a group called CRU, that's Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, is that January 6th was a so-called insurrection that amounted to treason and that Donald Trump is responsible for it.
	There is a little clause towards the end of the 14th Amendment, Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, which, for the record, has been twisted and contorted over the years since the Civil War to, you know, just wreak havoc.
	A lot of people really don't understand what Section 3 of The 14th Amendment means, but they pretend to and we saw that play out in a courtroom this week with various witnesses giving their own interpretations, many off the mark, in their effort to demonize and eventually send President Donald Trump to prison and make it so that he can never be on the ballot in 2024.
	The clause essentially reads that anyone who has engaged in treason or insurrection against the United States can never hold office.
	Now, keep in mind that this was written to punish members of a confederacy after a long and bloody war.
	It was not meant to punish former presidents and American patriots in 2023 and 2024.
	In any case, we know that this is totally frivolous, and we also know that January 6th was not an insurrection.
	It was mostly led by federal informants, which is why I like to call it a fedsurrection.
	We also know that President Trump was not responsible, nor did he really engage in January 6th at all, aside from giving a speech on the lawn in which he explicitly told people in attendance to be peaceful.
	It's on video!
	President Trump also infamously took to Twitter and called for people to go home.
	Who would bring such a frivolous case to court, you might ask?
	Well, the outfit responsible for that would be CRU, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.
	They are basically a left-wing harassment tank created to target Republicans with lawsuits.
	CRU pretends to be a 501c3 non-profit, but in reality they're operating in violation of their IRS tax-exempt status by participating in partisan political operations.
	They have been biting at Trump's ankles for years.
	In fact, they only waited three days after his inauguration to file their first lawsuit against him.
	Crew was founded by Norm Eisen and Melanie Sloan, a personal friend of Barack Obama, who would then go on to play a major role in his administration.
	Eisen has often been called the ethics czar, yet he has been one of the ringleaders in the witch hunt to expel Trump from politics.
	I don't think these people really understand the definition of ethics.
	Norm Eisen was also once employed by the ADL, which, as we all know, has led the charge of online censorship in the last few years.
	If you think Eisen, Sloan, or Crewe is actually ethical, you are out of your mind.
	While constantly ragging on conservative organizations for so-called dark money, Crewe quietly collects almost $6 million per year in donations, the origin of which they curiously never disclose.
	However, in a video that you're going to see tonight, I unearthed from this interview on C-SPAN a woman named Melanie Sloan, the founding executive director of Crew, who admitted during this interview, when asked by the interviewer who Crew's largest donors were, that George Soros is the biggest donor to Crew.
	And so, if you're wondering who exactly is funding this legal attack arm of the DNC against President Trump, the answer to that question is George Soros and his Open Societies Foundation.
	So no surprises there.
	Today was the fifth day of the trial of the hearings in Denver, Colorado, and it was the end of the witness testimony.
	Closing arguments are expected to take place in Colorado on November 15th.
	You will be shocked to learn That the presiding judge, a Democrat of course, Sarah B. Wallace, was appointed by Democrat Colorado Governor Jared Polis, a homosexual, radical Democrat who was instrumental in turning Colorado blue back in the early 2000s with funding from George Soros.
	You'll also be shocked to hear that Wallace regularly donates to the Colorado Turnout Project, a PAC whose stated mission is, quote, defeating Lauren Boeber and electing Democrats.
	So while the fix appears to be in, this will certainly not be the end of this case or this battle.
	Should President Trump lose in trial in Colorado, this will absolutely be appealed all the way up to the United States Supreme Court.
	You can guarantee that.
	That sets the stage for a massive judicial battle in the middle of a presidential election year at the highest level.
	One that is likely going to decide the outcome of the 2024 presidential election.
	It sets a dangerous precedent in our country in which dark money and political operatives now have more say in the outcome of our elections than the individual votes of the American people.
	You can already hear the weeping and gnashing of teeth from the far left over the fact that President Trump appointed three of the court's justices.
	They will kvetch to no end that these three must recuse themselves, which is why, if you've noticed for the last two years, the Democrats have been aggressively trying to impeach Justice Clarence Thomas.
	You see, their plan to steal the election from Donald Trump via lawfare in 2023 and 2024 has been in the works for many years now.
	That's why the feds helped stage January 6.
	They needed a catalyst to spark their election rigging ahead of 2024 because they knew that even after stealing the election from President Trump in 2020, that he wasn't going to back down from a fight in 2024.
	If this frivolous and malicious lawsuit makes it that far, it will be an absolute mess and a travesty for our nation and the future of our elections.
	Then again, even if President Trump prevails in Colorado, the left will just move on to their next lawsuit.
	And they aren't wasting any time.
	Just yesterday, the trial over the same exact thing, in an effort to keep President Trump off the ballot, had its first day in court in Minnesota.
	This is a nearly identical case, and you can guarantee that the Democrats are going to try to replicate these cases and these lawsuits in as many states as possible ahead of 2024.
	You see, the Uniparty and the Deep State made a commitment back in 2016 that they would never allow President Donald Trump to hold office ever again, and it looks like they are doing whatever it takes to keep their word.
	There is a young female journalist, conservative journalist, by the name of Laura Loomer.
	If America's men acted like Laura Loomer, our problems would be fixed in about five minutes.
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	Thank you so much for tuning in to episode six of Loomer Unleashed.
	We have a really explosive episode for you tonight.
	As you know, I've been breaking stories all week, exposing this dark money Democrat deep state operation to remove President Trump from the ballot in Colorado.
	And tonight I'm going to be joined by two great guests who are going to break this down for you so that you can understand what is going on and why you need to wake up and why everybody in this country needs to wake up.
	Because people, I've noticed this week, are laughing at the absurdity of this case because it is absurd, right?
	It's absurd, as I just laid out in my monologue, what's happening to President Donald Trump in a Colorado trial.
	Today, the witness testimonies concluded and closing arguments are expected to take place on November 15th.
	But, you know, don't just think that this ruling is going to be in favor of President Trump.
	You see, I personally think that the judge is going to rule against Donald Trump and that they're going to take this all the way to the Supreme Court and hold it over his head in an election year while you have these frivolous witch hunt criminal investigations against him taking place so that you can have people like DeSantis and others say, you see, he's too unstable.
	We need to have somebody else.
	And that's their entire plan.
	That's why Ron DeSantis won't drop out, even though he's polling at 8 percent, because he has been told by the deep state that, oh, you know, don't worry.
	Don't worry.
	Everything's secure for you, Ron.
	We're going to make it so that Donald Trump is ruled against and there's going to be so much uncertainty and you're going to see people are going to shift towards you.
	And so tonight, I have great guests on.
	You're going to want to watch the whole way through.
	My first guest joining me in a few moments is going to be Dave Williams.
	Dave is actually the chairman of the Colorado GOP.
	And then after Dave, we're going to be joined by attorney John Pierce, who's a constitutional lawyer.
	A First Amendment lawyer.
	He has represented many high profile clients.
	He's my lawyer, for full disclosure.
	But he's also represented Carter Page, who, you know, was caught up in the Russia hoax during the Trump administration.
	He's represented Rudy Giuliani, Kyle Rittenhouse, and many others.
	John is going to give his legal analysis and break down the legal argument of using Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to try to accuse President Trump of an insurrection so that he can't run for president in 2024.
	John is also representing dozens of January 6 political prisoners.
	And so we're going to ask him how his experience in the courtroom representing dozens of J6ers is shaping his opinion regarding President Trump's trials and tribulations as it relates to the attack on him.
	And this effort to use January 6th, even though that was the basis, right, for his second impeachment, which the Democrats are now trying to re-litigate out in the public on the ballot ahead of 2024, okay?
	President Trump was acquitted.
	Why are we talking about this, right?
	Why isn't the Republican Party being more forceful and saying, hey, we already discussed this.
	This was the premise of the second impeachment of President Donald Trump for which he was acquitted.
	But again, you know, I don't know if I'd rather watch paint dry or, you know, if I'm going to just sit here and wait for the GOP to actually get smart on strategy and actually start holding people accountable.
	Because it just doesn't really seem like anybody in Congress wants to do anything to address this.
	As we saw this last week, President Trump had this trial in Colorado and yet you didn't really see much news coverage from the perspective of what Republicans were doing.
	Because, oh yeah, that's right, the Republicans weren't doing anything to address this.
	We have a new Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, who is too busy having a love affair with Israel and Ukraine, sending more of our money overseas instead of, you know, instead of having a solid border proposal here to protect American citizens from an invasion.
	He wants to send money overseas to protect the borders of other countries.
	And you didn't really see any defense of Mike Johnson this week of President Donald Trump.
	In fact, Mike Johnson went so far as appointing a DeSantis donor as his policy director.
	And so, yeah, so much loyalty, right?
	President Trump posts a statement on True Social in support of you, Mike Johnson, saying that you'd be a good speaker and then you're going to go hire DeSantis donors?
	Why is Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, trying to line his staff up with DeSantis donors ahead of these trials?
	Keep an eye on Mike Johnson because I called this out from day one.
	I don't trust the guy as far as I could throw him.
	I think he's a rhino.
	He has a terrible fundraising record, which means he's not going to be able to effectively raise money compared to somebody like a Kevin McCarthy.
	And you're going to see they're going to be able to easily manipulate this guy.
	And I don't really trust that he's super loyal to Trump.
	He likes to say he is, but I'm loyal to Trump.
	You're never going to see me associate with a DeSantis donor, or you're never going to see me try to hire somebody who gave money to Ron DeSantis' presidential campaign and hasn't given money to Donald Trump.
	And so, we are going to get into this, but before I bring Dave on...
	This is the exclusive report that I just published last night.
	We had to reschedule the show due to an unforeseen emergency, a tragedy, really, really sad situation.
	One of the producers and one of my friends here in the studio, amazing, talented guy, Yeah, I just want to say that my husband, unfortunately passed away from a drug overdose, and he was just incredibly talented.
	And so I just want to take a moment of silence during this show.
	that he should have been here to produce for me tonight because I just want everybody to know that if you're enjoying the show, these last few episodes, he really did a lot to help make the show and the setup as wonderful as it is.
	And it's just really sad that we have such an epidemic in our country right now.
	And it also relates to the flow of drugs coming across our southern border that is tragically taking the lives of so many young people.
	Same age as me, by the way, 30 years old.
	And so we'll just take a moment of silence because that's why we had to cancel the show last night.
	And we're doing the show tonight, but everybody in the studio is obviously very upset about this still.
	So you'll see this report.
	Exclusive meet the leftist operatives funded by Soros who are targeting Trump in Colorado.
	Colorado has become the epicenter of the political persecution of President Trump and the testing ground for how Democrat supervisors of elections across the country are planning to steal the 2024 presidential election.
	All eyes are on Denver as the trial against President Trump gets closer to its goals of disqualifying him from the presidential ballot in 2024.
	You know, as I reported this last week, you may have seen on my website, there were several reports about this.
	The lawsuit that we saw during this trial this week in Colorado was originally filed and pushed forward by this group called CREW, as I mentioned in the monologue earlier.
	CREW describes itself as a liberal non-profit and it was founded by attorneys Melanie Sloan and Norm Eisen in 2003.
	You know, when you are a nonprofit, you are subjected to rules at the IRS.
	You're not supposed to utilize your tax-exempt status, for which your donors received tax-deductible donations.
	You're not allowed to then use those funds to carry out partisan political activities.
	And yet, that's exactly what I discovered these individuals are doing.
	And so you continue with this article.
	In a video, and this is a video that I published earlier in the week from a C-SPAN interview, you see Crew co-founder Melanie Sloan wasn't shy about admitting the fact that George Soros was actually the biggest donor, the biggest donor to Crew.
	And we're going to play that clip for you.
	I know I played it on the show earlier this week, but this is just so important because nobody wants to talk about this.
	My reporting this week has already received over nine million views online on X. And so what my biggest concern is, is that if you're not on X and I wouldn't be on X if I didn't get my account back in December, because obviously I'm still banned everywhere, but.
	What about all these people that aren't on X who aren't going to see my report?
	They need to know, right?
	So if you're watching, we're live right now.
	Please be sure that you're reposting this link.
	Share it on your social media because we want as many people to see this as possible.
	If you know people who are outraged about the attempts to take Donald Trump off the ballot, they need to tune into this episode tonight because the information that I'm about to reveal to you is so explosive and so damning and the question that everybody is going to leave here tonight asking is, Where the hell is the GOP House Oversight Committee to launch an investigation into these progressive Democrat dark money operations and shell companies that are trying to illegally interfere in our elections?
	So go ahead, let's play this clip of Melanie Sloan saying that George Soros is the biggest donor to Crew.
	Who are some of the biggest donors you have and is there a restriction on how much money they can give you?
	We don't have any restriction, but I would say our biggest donors are, for example, the Open Society Institute is a very big donor.
	And whose organization is that?
	Well, it's a foundation, but it's well known to be, George Soros is the one who funds it.
	The Wallace Global Fund gives us money.
	The ARCA Foundation gives us money.
	Those are some of the big foundations.
	Carnegie Corporation gives us money.
	You do see a thread through the different sides in this where a big donor like George Soros will give to an awful lot of progressive organizations.
	Does he ever ask for anything directly?
	No, and I have met him and he's never asked for anything at all.
	I meet with the program officer from the Open Society Institute and they're very happy with what we do and they're very keen on transparency.
	We're part of their democracy program.
	You heard it.
	You heard it directly out of the mouth of Melanie Sloan herself, okay?
	The executive director and one of the co-founders of Crew, saying that George Soros is their biggest, uh, their biggest donor.
	And you can see, right?
	She stutters.
	It's like, uh, what?
	Cat got your tongue?
	Oh, who are your biggest donors?
	She tries to dodge that question.
	Oh, well, you know, we have a lot of donors.
	And then the interviewer, of course, asks her, oh, and whose organization is that?
	Open Societies Foundation?
	And pretty much had to force her to say George Soros.
	And so, no, it's not an anti-Semitic dog whistle.
	No, it's not a Jew-hating trope.
	I'm Jewish myself.
	What are they gonna do, call me a Jewish Nazi for blowing the whistle on George Soros tonight?
	Guess what?
	George Soros was a Nazi collaborator, okay?
	So, I don't care Media Matters, who's also based out of Colorado.
	I don't care, Democrat Party, if you want to clip this clip tonight and accuse people of pushing out anti-Semitic dog whistles, okay?
	Because George Soros is a Nazi, okay?
	Maybe he is a Jew.
	I don't know.
	But if he is, he's a Nazi Jew.
	And there are Nazi Jews.
	They're called kapos.
	Look it up.
	Go revisit your history from the Second World War and the Holocaust and you'll know what I'm talking about so that you're not gaslighting the American people when we have evidence in front of our eyes that shows us that, yeah, George Soros did in fact fund all these Democrat operations that are trying to transform the electoral makeup of our country and steal the election from Donald Trump.
	And so, joining me now to discuss all of this and the way that Colorado has become ground zero for the deep state's election rigging Is Colorado GOP Chairman Dave Williams.
	Dave, thank you so much for joining me tonight.
	You bet.
	Thanks for having me, Laura.
	Of course, it's a pleasure to have you, especially since you were telling me earlier on the phone, and I honestly, I just couldn't believe this, and you'll have to forgive me because I get so, you know, I get so worked up over this stuff.
	I just can't believe that you haven't been interviewed this week.
	You told me that there are not right-wing publications or that you really honestly haven't had a lot of media requests.
	Just if you could touch on that, please, because this is probably one of the most impactful stories and cases playing out in our country right now in Colorado.
	And you would think that all the media or publications would be wanting to interview the head of the GOP in Colorado since they're trying to take the leading Republican candidate off the ballot.
	If you could just, you know, go ahead introduce yourself and maybe touch on that if you could.
	You bet, you bet.
	I'm Dave Williams, Chairman of the Colorado Republican Party.
	We intervened in the case to try and stop these left-wing organizations, these Democrats, from interfering in our elections.
	And it's been quite shocking or surprising how very little the media has covered this.
	We've had some radio interviews, some local interviews, But by and large, most of the mainstream media, and even on the right, they're not really covering this.
	I'm not sure what it is, but I will assure you that once this judge rules against us, there's going to be a lot of media coverage, and that's unfortunate because we might have been able to do things differently had we had enough public outcry to stop this undemocratic thing that Crewe and company are trying to do.
	Right.
	Well, and what is your outlook of this trial?
	Because we saw today, today was the fifth day of the trial.
	Today was actually the last day of the witness testimonies and we saw, you know, opening statements from President Trump's legal team on Monday in which they made a defense of free speech in the First Amendment and also free and fair elections.
	And then, of course, we saw these progressive Democrats who are led by the general counsel for for for career.
	name is Donald Sherman, if I'm not mistaken.
	And this is a guy who is a rabid Black Lives Matter supporter.
	He worked for Democrat Senator Claire McCaskill.
	He worked for Obama.
	OK, these are high ranking.
	I don't think your average person understands this, Dave.
	These are high ranking Democrat political operatives.
	These aren't just random lawyers who they selected to take these cases.
	These are trained political operatives with deep ties to Colorado from organizations like Progress Now, Media Matters, and all of these, you know, known leftist entities that are based out of Colorado where Crew has their office for the sake of, you know, developing a template and a blueprint I want to play a clip for you and get your get your get your take on this.
	But what one of the reasons why I wanted to have you on tonight is because in the words of Melanie Sloan and these operatives from clue from crew, excuse me, they're saying that they want Colorado to be the template.
	Because it's not just going to stop a Colorado.
	This isn't about, oh, we're going to keep Donald Trump off the ballot in Colorado.
	This is, we're going to set precedent in Colorado and we're going to trigger a tsunami of litigation in other states.
	So I want to play this other clip in which she says why they chose Colorado.
	How big is your organization?
	How much money do you have to have every year to operate?
	We're pretty small.
	I think people would be surprised to know.
	We have, I think, about 13 people in our office here.
	We also have three people in our office in Colorado.
	And our budget is about $3 million a year.
	Why Colorado?
	We had initially decided to try and see if Colorado could serve as a model for other states.
	Did we want to open other state programs and see if we could do what we do at the federal level at the state level?
	And the answer is yes, we can.
	Most states have things like election commission data, campaign finance data, and open records laws that you can use the same way we use them federally.
	But what we've decided is we're not opening any other offices because it's very expensive and hard to maintain.
	What do you think about that?
	What do you think about that, Dave?
	As the chairman of the Colorado GOP, seeing this woman who leads this organization saying that they want to use your state as like a Petri dish experiment for how they're going to destroy the rest of the nation.
	Yeah, I mean, I can't overstate this enough.
	What's happening in Colorado is going to be replicated or is being replicated across the country.
	We've been experiencing sort of this left-wing attack on our values in this state for well over 20 years.
	You know, your article kind of touches on a lot of the players, but one of the key players of this is now Governor Jared Polis.
	He was one of the original financiers of many of the things, including Progress Now Colorado, who's connected with Crewe and others.
	These people know exactly what they're doing, and they've figured out that if they can use dark money in order to influence elections, they can and they will, and they often succeed.
	Because in politics, in order to get the kind of marketing or traction that you need, it does require a certain level of money.
	If they can do it in secret, then they're going to be that much more successful.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And for people watching, if you don't know anything about this trial, what's really interesting about Governor Polis, who's a radical, you know, flaming, leftist, homosexual, Democrat governor of Colorado, He's the guy who appointed Judge Sarah Wallace, right?
	Who's the judge who is overseeing this case.
	And what's interesting is that she's donated, as I mentioned in my monologue, my opening statement, she has donated to PACs that are committed Right?
	That are committed to removing Lauren Boebert from office.
	And why does this matter, right?
	Well, we're not here to talk about Lauren Boebert, but the reason why the race with Lauren Boebert and her congressional district relates to this and shows how unethical these actions are is because she's running against a Democrat named Adam Frisch, who ran against her in the last election season and only lost by a couple hundred votes.
	And this guy was hand-selected by another one of these Democrat political operatives by the name of Michael Huttner.
	And Michael Huttner is, and we can pull this up if you scroll down in the article.
	We'll show this to people watching.
	Michael Huttner is a Clinton operative.
	He worked with Hillary Clinton in 2016.
	He has photos of himself from the DNC convention.
	If you scroll down in that article right there on the homepage of Lumered, you'll see it.
	Photos of himself with Joe Biden at the 1996 DNC convention.
	And Michael Hutner formed a venture in 2015 that was shortly defected after called Triumph Strategy with Melanie Sloan, who's the executive director of Crew, right?
	So you see all these people are connected.
	Why do I bring that up?
	How does that relate to Lauren Boebert?
	Well, it was Michael Hutner who hand-selected Adam Frisch, by his own admission, to run in that seat.
	Michael Huntner is the one who's running the entire political operation for Adam Frisch so that they can take a red seat and make it blue.
	And look, I mean, Lauren Boeber isn't exactly like, you know, the most upstanding America First candidate with donating to Kevin McCarthy, getting caught, you know, like jerking off her boyfriend in a Beetlejuice film.
	Doing a lot of things that are really unappealing to conservative voters in rural Colorado.
	And so I think that Colorado voters need to really understand the severity of this, not just for the sake of keeping Donald Trump off the ballot in Colorado, but maybe you can speak to the severity of the fact that Colorado is about to lose a red seat to these radical Democrats.
	I mean, I personally think that Adam Frisch is going to take that seat with the current trend that You know, we see if another candidate doesn't file to run as a MAGA America First candidate.
	Well, it's definitely going to be a tough seat to retain.
	Regardless if it's Lauren Bovert or some other nominee, that seat is definitely in play in a way that I don't think anyone ever expected.
	And to further put a finer point on it, a lot of these people, it's incestuous.
	These people have known each other for a number of years.
	They've done whatever they can to hook her by crook, influence the rules, change the rules.
	Uh, and stuff the ballot boxes, do things that are completely un-American in order to win.
	And that's not only affecting Donald Trump's candidacy, that's affecting all the other major races that we do care about.
	Lauren Boebert's seat is very consequential because it could very well determine the majority status in the U.S.
	House of Representatives.
	So that is a top tier target and they will continue to use dark money, outside money to influence that election.
	But they'll do that everywhere else in the nation.
	Colorado used to be a pretty firm Republican state through their efforts illegally and often, which is often the case.
	They've been able to flip the state and then change the rules with the political power that they've illicitly gained.
	There's so much to talk about.
	Act Blue is another thing that people really need to realize.
	A lot of these guys are using Act Blue as a way to launder money and attribute it to folks that didn't actually donate those amounts.
	That's another aspect that's not even really being discussed.
	Yeah, and that's what these organizations are, right?
	Whether it be, you know, Triumph Strategy, or Media Matters for America, or American Bridge, or some of these, you know, different PACs that have been set up by people like David Brock, who of course was the founder of Media Matters, which is another group that propped up coincidentally in Denver.
	What's really weird is that all of these very sinister, well-known leftist operations that are notorious for smearing Republican candidates and have been attacking Donald Trump very aggressively for the last several years, they all seem to have propped up at the same exact time in Colorado.
	You said it yourself.
	Colorado has always been a red state.
	When John Kerry lost to George W. Bush in Colorado in 2004, every single year prior to that, with a couple few exceptions, Colorado had always been red for a presidential election year.
	But it was after that that you had you had crew that propped up in 2003, Media Matters in 2004, Progress Now, okay, Michael Huttner's group, in 2004.
	And then additionally, at the same exact time, you had Dominion Voting Machines, which is also headquartered out of Colorado, which surprise, surprise, right?
	2003, 2004 is when Dominion made its way.
	So what are the odds, right, that all of these progressive organizations that led the charge to, you know, get Joe Biden elected and Melanie Sloan and Norm Eisen, who are both founding members of CREW, they're both big donors to Joe Biden.
	I I just wrote that story earlier today as well.
	Do you think that other Republicans in Colorado are aware of this?
	Are you only just becoming aware of this or is this well known in Colorado?
	Because I want to know why nothing's being done about this and why there's no investigations into this illegal use of nonprofits for the sake of moving dark money.
	Yeah, it's actually very well known.
	In fact, for your listeners and viewers, what's even more atrocious about this is that taxpayer dollars are likely being funneled into these dark money groups, these 501c3s that claim to not do politics, but they do do politics.
	These things are happening and it has been known.
	The reason we haven't really seen any sort of pushback or fight is because unfortunately we've had feckless, failed Republican leaders and strategists who have more in common with the Democrats, have more in common with the Uniparty that we're seeing With every successive day that we start to wake up and pay attention to politics who just don't want to do anything.
	Because they're not interested in freedom.
	They're not interested in America First.
	They're not interested in limited government.
	They're interested in helping their buddies raid the taxpayer coffers at our expense.
	Speaking of ineffective leadership, I saw today that you had a lot of different witness testimonies today.
	You had the trial.
	Who has reached out, if anybody, from the GOP, whether they be elected members of Congress?
	Who have you heard from?
	Have you heard from the U.S.
	representatives or the GOP candidates from Colorado?
	Have they expressed support?
	What's being done to support Trump?
	If you could please, you know, inform the audience about who in Colorado is actually doing something to stop this.
	Well, aside from my efforts with the Colorado Republican Party and, of course, Trump's team, not much.
	I will give credit to Lauren Boebert.
	When I ask her to put something out, she'll put something out.
	But beyond that, we haven't been seeing too many offers of assistance, whether it's from the national level or anyone else.
	Ironically, Ken Buck, who really isn't a fan of Donald Trump, Did testify on behalf of his team.
	I think it was yesterday, but he still wanted to make it clear to everyone that he doesn't believe some of the things that I think are so obvious that we need to fight against.
	But nevertheless, he did do that.
	Not much has happened, but again, I think I think whatever is going to happen, we don't believe the ruling is going to be favorable, so that's when things are going to explode in the next two weeks over this trial.
	Yeah, and I saw that the closing arguments are on November 15th, and so we have that clip of Ken Buck testifying.
	It was just announced yesterday, ironically, the same day that he decided to testify that he wasn't going to be running for re-election, and so I guess that's going to be an open seat, right?
	In Colorado.
	So you're going to have a very aggressive effort.
	Because not only are the Democrats going to try to take Lauren Boebert's seat, which they will, I think.
	Adam Frisch has already raised $4 million and Lauren Boebert has only raised $800,000 in that seat thus far.
	You're going to see, I think, an effort by them to use a lot of dark money to try to take Ken Buck's seat.
	Do you agree?
	Well, I'm not entirely sure if they'll be able to achieve that.
	I think if they wanted to have us waste our time and resources in defending it, they might consider doing that.
	But Ken Buck's seat is a safe Republican seat by the usual metrics, and I suspect that's why he's not running again, because of his opposition to Joe Biden's impeachment, his opposition to bringing justice towards those who are persecuted with the January 6th prisoners.
	You know, these things that are not mainstream, his opinion is not mainstream with the Republican Party, that's why I think he's not running because he knows he can't win.
	Right.
	But the thing is, is that Colorado was a safe Republican state, right?
	Colorado was a reliably red Republican state in a presidential election year and so You know we can't we can't just go along and say oh well it's a you know it's a safe red seat because as we have seen the Democrats stole the election from Donald Trump in 2020 and everybody thought that it was in the bag for Donald Trump right and so I think that these dark money operations that we're seeing and the the litigation that we're watching play out right now
	Has the ability to transform deep red seats, right, or deep red Republican victories and turn them in, right, turn them into Democrat victories by literally stealing the seat through litigation, by unconstitutionally taking somebody off the ballot, you know?
	And so, how many others are they going to try to do that to?
	Because if they then are successful in getting Trump off the ballot in Colorado, will we start to see lawsuits filed against congressional candidates as well?
	Who said things like, the election was stolen, you know, I support the January 6th political prisoners.
	That's where we are in this country right now.
	And it clearly appears to be the fact that George Soros and these leftist organizations and the candidates, you know, they buy seats.
	They bought Jared Polis, who then installed Judge Wallace.
	In essence, you could really argue that because POLIS is a creation of Soros Money, Judge Wallace herself is also bought and paid for by George Soros.
	Yeah, there's not much I can disagree with you on.
	We tried to support the motion for her to recuse herself.
	Trump's team brought that forward because of the clear conflict of interest in the donations that she had as it related to January 6 and the supposed We'll see what happens.
	which it wasn't an insurrection, but nevertheless, it shows her biased early on.
	She decided not to do that.
	We tend to think that she's not going to agree with our argument that Donald Trump should stay on the ballot.
	So for those reasons, I can't argue with you.
	We think that she is a left wing judge.
	That's just the way it is.
	We'll see what happens.
	We could be wrong, but we're not expecting a good ruling.
	Yeah, I'm not expecting it either.
	And I noticed, too, that, uh, you know, I'm looking at your, uh, the Twitter account for the Colorado Republican Party and they tweeted, they said, we need your help now.
	Radical Democrats funded by Soros are trying to illegally remove President Trump from the ballot across the country.
	Watch Trump's video and ship in a donation to help our efforts to keep Trump on the ballot.
	So I want to ask you this because when I said that I was going to be interviewing you tonight, I got some messages and also Comments from people who want to know how exactly is the Colorado GOP using these donations?
	Because they, I mean, they make a good point.
	People said President Trump thus far has been footing the bill for these legal costs.
	So has the Colorado GOP given any money to Donald Trump to support his legal fees?
	And what are the donations that you're collecting, you know, in the name of keeping Trump on the ballot going towards?
	You bet.
	So we have our own separate legal team, number one.
	Number two, we not only have efforts inside the courtroom, but we also have to, with an eye for the future, have efforts outside of the courtroom.
	In case this lawsuit fails and is not a favorable ruling for us, we have to actually put forward an alternate plan to award national delegates to President Trump, should he have the support, which we do think he would.
	Um, so that means we have to go to the RNC.
	We have to seek a waiver.
	We have to do a completely different process that ignores the statewide presidential primary and go to a caucus system.
	That means we have to pay for a caucus and put on an assembly where people can compete and become national delegates for Donald Trump.
	So there's a whole...
	big effort inside and outside the courtroom to actually make all this happen so that people can preserve the right to vote for Donald Trump should they want to.
	That's only a half measure, though.
	This thing could, you know, this could go really awry because what we're doing only kind of gets him past the primary.
	But if the court rules against us and we keep seeing losses in the appellate levels, that could very well affect the general election.
	So this is a long haul fight and we are earmarking donations for this fight specifically.
	And that donation link is specifically geared towards that so that we know what dollars come in so that we can put it towards those efforts.
	So it's a trackable link is what you're saying.
	And those funds, so they haven't been used or they are going to be used eventually? - Really?
	Whatever's donated, we put it towards these efforts that I just described.
	So you're actively spending money right now?
	Like, has any money actually been allocated yet?
	No, no.
	No money's been spent at the moment.
	But to tell you the truth, we haven't seen a lot of donations already, and I think that's because no one knows what's going on.
	We have probably less than a thousand bucks have come in for that specific account.
	Yeah, no, I mean, look, I'm happy to encourage people to donate.
	I just want to make sure that money is going to be spent on Donald Trump or maybe the party itself would, you know, endorse President Donald Trump and give him a check, right?
	Give him a donation, a campaign donation, because he needs support.
	And so what happens is you have a lot of state parties.
	Like I live in Florida, and tomorrow we're going to have the Florida Summit, and DeSantis and Trump are going to be there.
	And a lot of people got mad about donating to the Florida GOP because, as I exposed, right, the vice chair of the Florida GOP is married to the chief financial officer of the DeSantis campaign, and people feel like their donations are basically going towards helping Ron DeSantis get elected as president.
	And so people are very skeptical about donating, and I'm always just doing my due diligence because I want to make sure that people are donating, that the money is going to be going towards Trump in this effort because, you know, it's very important, and Colorado is going to be the pilot case.
	And so you guys are, you know, paying for lawyers, and you have mounting expenses, and so you just committed on the show.
	It's on video so everybody can see it.
	You are planning on using these funds to help President Trump.
	Now, Yeah, you bet.
	I mean, that's the whole purpose.
	It's not only about keeping Trump on the ballot, but it's actually bigger than Donald Trump.
	Because if they can get away with removing the leading Republican candidate for president from the ballot, they can do that with lower-level offices.
	This is a big deal.
	It's un-American, and it strikes at the very heart of our democratic process, our republic.
	This is certainly about keeping Trump on the ballot, but again, if they can do that to him, they will do it to anyone else.
	Has the Colorado GOP endorsed President Trump yet, or do you guys have plans before the end of the primary to endorse Donald Trump?
	Our rules require us to kind of wait for the primary to play out, but I assure you that once that happens, we'll make it known where we're at.
	If you go to my personal Twitter, you'll see my picture with Donald Trump, so you can probably guess where I'm at anyway.
	And I know you have to walk a tight line because of your position and whatnot, but you know, you just argued that this is going to play out in the primary, and this is why we absolutely have to make sure that Donald Trump gets through the primary, because this is going to play out in the general, right?
	This lawsuit, if they're able to make it go all the way to the Supreme Court.
	So, given the fact that we are in unprecedented times, don't you think that now is the time to disregard these antiquated GOP rules?
	I mean, the fact that we are even entertaining this ridiculous primary, it's so absurd.
	DeSantis, Nikki Haley, everybody's polling it at 8% nationally and Donald Trump has a 55 point lead.
	So, I just think that the American people and also the GOP base, which is pro-Trump, they're looking for leaders right now.
	They're looking for people that are bold, that are going to say, enough of this GOP rhino bullshit.
	It's time to endorse Donald Trump, the leader of the party, and take a stand against election interference.
	Is that something that perhaps, you know, maybe Colorado could lead the way?
	The Colorado GOP could lead the way in being very forceful and direct in endorsing President Donald Trump ahead of the general?
	I think it's a fair point to be made and I think you're seeing a lot of that happen right now.
	I don't even know anyone who's really going to watch the presidential debate that's coming up next week.
	Because we're going to be in Miami and Hialeah!
	We're going to be at the Trump rally.
	Yeah, by the way, if you're watching this, President Trump is having a rally on November 8th in Miami.
	Well, Hialeah, of course, which is like little Cuba.
	I used to work out in Hialeah.
	But he's having a rally at the same exact time as the presidential debate, so you're right.
	No one's gonna watch it.
	Everybody's just gonna be watching the Trump rally.
	Right, right.
	I mean, but getting to answer your question, as much as I could agree with you in principle, I am bound by my rules, and I'm bound by the membership that elected me, and they haven't changed those rules yet.
	I think there's an appetite growing for those rules to change, but until they do, I gotta Yeah, I respect your answer.
	I just personally think, and you know, obviously, you know, people are entitled to their own personal opinions, but I believe that these rules keep us, keep us in the dark, okay?
	I also think that these antiquated rules that we see in all states, right, even here in Florida, They allow for manipulation, they allow for election interference, and they allow for people to pretend like they are, you know, acting in good faith, when in reality they're not acting in good faith.
	And so I hope that Republicans start revolting around the nation in their own states.
	And urging their state Republican parties to change these rules because why would anyone want to take a loyalty oath to the Republican Party?
	Nobody should be loyal to any party.
	They should express their loyalty to an individual if they believe that that individual represents them.
	And I personally believe that Donald Trump is not only the leader of the Republican Party but he's the only one.
	He's the only person on this planet and the only person in the GOP that is going to be able to help our country get back on track.
	And I do believe that the Republicans are actually aiding the Democrats right now in giving Joe Biden four more years by not putting an end to this ridiculous primary.
	Well, I have a feeling that this primary is going to end sooner than you think.
	You're already starting to see presidential candidates who are struggling to fundraise the necessary amount of money to continue to compete in Iowa and other earlier states.
	So I don't think it's going to last much longer.
	You would think that, but you know, I want to play a clip for you too.
	You know, Ron DeSantis, I don't know if you saw this clip, Dave.
	He was on MSNBC this week.
	It was a ridiculous interview, and the hosts from MSNBC were talking about the trial in Colorado, and they're like, oh, you know, given the fact that Donald Trump, you know, is now in trial and they're trying to remove him from the ballot, what do you think about this?
	Do you think that people should vote for somebody who's removed from the ballot?
	And DeSantis goes, oh no, absolutely not, and that's why I'm staying in, because Donald Trump isn't going to be on the ballot.
	It's almost like These Deep State Uniparty officials have given some of these candidates reassurances that, oh, don't worry, stay in.
	Because it's either that or these people have a serious humiliation fetish because Ron DeSantis is getting mocked.
	I've never seen the right and the left unite.
	You know, it's like that meme where you have the white hand and the black hand and the muscles flexing and then it's like unity, right?
	Because we're so united in our disdain for Ron DeSantis.
	You have the left and the right mocking him on late night comedy shows.
	And everyone's wondering, like, why is this guy still in the race?
	Because it's pretty clear that there's this effort, right, that some of these candidates were alerted to ahead of time.
	Let's play that clip, if we have it, of Ron DeSantis on MSNBC.
	Our panel, if Donald Trump is convicted, will you still – and he is the nominee, would you still support him – And you raise your hand.
	You're a lawyer.
	You've served in the Navy.
	You were well-trained at the greatest schools.
	Do you really believe that a man who's convicted of, say, attempting to overturn the 2020 election or taking nuclear secrets back to his beach club, do you actually still, as we sit here today, believe that person should be president?
	So I signed a pledge, Willie, and that pledge is what it is.
	Now, do I think somebody under those circumstances could get elected president?
	The answer is no.
	That will not happen.
	I think that Republican voters will understand that as we get closer to voting, but it would be fatal in a general election.
	I don't think the party should nominate in that situation.
	I signed the pledge.
	I'm a Republican.
	I don't think it's going to come to that.
	And I think we'll get the job done like we need to.
	But the reality is I signed it and that's what I did.
	So you stand by that this morning?
	Yeah, when I signed the pledge, you know, I knew you never know what's going to happen.
	It's a crazy process.
	People make different decisions.
	And I think my point of view on it was, you know, I'm participating in this process.
	I've got the plan to win.
	We're going to win.
	At the same time, it's like you can't just take your ball and go home.
	You can't on the one side of your mouth say the country's in decline.
	Biden's failing.
	And on the other hand, say, you know, I'm just going to pout if things don't go my way.
	So that was kind of my rationale for doing it.
	You'll notice he goes, uh, I mean, like, this is exactly what I'm talking about, Dave.
	I signed the pledge.
	I'm a Republican.
	It's like, that's, that's basically what Republicans are known for, okay?
	This, this, this ridiculous 11th commandment, Reagan's rules, oh, thou shall not speak ill of another Republican, but oh, it's okay if you want to have another Republican locked up in jail for the rest of his life and die in prison under false pretenses and false charges in a witch hunt.
	I don't know.
	What do you think about that clip?
	I just think that it reeks of phoniness and also deep state shenanigans.
	Well, there's a couple things.
	First off, anyone who talks about the 11th Commandment, those are usually establishment types who don't want the grassroots to defend themselves after they've been attacked.
	That's number one.
	Number two, I actually am very sympathetic to Ron DeSantis on that one, because he's trying to run for president, and it's clear by the polls kind of where he's at, and so he doesn't want to say He doesn't want to talk about his opponent.
	He wants to talk about his candidacy and why he thinks he's great, but these news anchors are trying to get him to talk about Trump and what happens if this, that, and the other.
	He's in a rock and a hard place when he answers these types of questions.
	Do I think for one second that he wants to support Donald Trump?
	No.
	I think that should be apparent and evident because he's running against him.
	If you're in his shoes, what do you do?
	And I don't know if he could have answered it any better than he did.
	Well, I want to play this clip too.
	We have the clip from Ken Buck testifying, and I want to get your take on that as well.
	So, play that.
	And it is important to have the, I believe, the full picture in a situation like the January 6th investigation.
	It's like going into a courtroom as a prosecutor and not having a defense counsel or defendant.
	I think in order to be able to judge someone's culpability, you've got to be able to hear both sides of the story.
	And in this case, there was not another side.
	So it's really interesting, right, because Ken Buck has a Republican seat, and this is a guy who is known for not supporting Donald Trump, right, as you touted on or highlighted earlier, and yet he was brought in as a witness in defense of President Trump, ironically, in this trial this week in Colorado.
	Because he gave a perspective as a member of Congress who doesn't necessarily like Donald Trump of how biased Nancy Pelosi's Gestapo-like J6 committee is.
	What's your take on his testimony this week, or today rather, in Colorado?
	Well, there's a lot to unpack on that one because myself and the base of our party, we don't agree with a lot of the recent statements and actions by Ken Buck.
	With that said, I think he probably served a useful role in communicating to the judge that regardless of what he thinks, the January 6th committee was one-sided and biased.
	He could have been a lot more forceful about it.
	He could have been a lot more direct about it, but that was his testimony.
	And at the very least on the margins, that should be helpful for the case as it, as it proceeds up the appellate level.
	Right.
	I want to get to the chat because, you know, we have a, we have a lot of viewers right now.
	We're on the front page of Rumble right now, actually, so that's really great because so many people who are, you know, maybe they're spending their Friday nights watching Rumble, they're going to be able to watch this.
	And I want to go to the chat because we have a live chat and I want to be able to, I want to give the opportunity to the live chat to ask you a couple questions because since Since nobody else in the right wing media wants to interview Dave Williams, we're going to we're going to hog him up because I think that, you know, your insight into this is actually really important.
	And I think people need to hear from you.
	Do you still have some time?
	I don't want to hog up your entire evening, but if you could stay for a few more minutes, because I just think that this is so important.
	So we can get the live chat on.
	All right, so for the people in the live chat, if you're enjoying this interview, press 1.
	I want to see whether or not you're enjoying this interview with Dave Williams.
	And also, please send in your questions.
	We're going to take a couple questions right now for Dave before we go on to our next guest tonight, John Pierce, because I want you to be able to ask him about this case in Colorado.
	Let's see.
	Any questions?
	questions?
	Let's see.
	People are putting in their questions right now.
	While we're waiting for a question to come in, I also want to highlight what's really interesting.
	Oh, we have one.
	We have a super chat.
	What is the Colorado GOP doing to support Tina Peters?
	You know, we offered Tina a role with our party to be in charge of election integrity, and we just haven't been able to ink that deal completely.
	It's sort of in a back-and-forth process.
	Really what she's trying to do is focus on her, because she still has a trial and I think it's going to be next, it might've been pushed out to next year.
	And I think she's been trying to look for attorneys, but as far as the Republican party is concerned with Tina, we certainly think what's happening is an injustice.
	She's being persecuted and to the extent that we can help her, we certainly will.
	But we did offer her a role, an official role with our party to help us nail down election integrity issues.
	Okay.
	If there's anybody else who's got a question, you can put it in the live chat.
	The super chats as well get the priorities.
	And so there's a lot of questions.
	If you want to have your question prioritized, you have to put it in the top.
	Let's see.
	Do you know who is looking to run for Ken Buck's seat?
	There are like a dozen names being floated around right now.
	I think you're gonna see a lot more people jump into that race.
	And like with any other Republican primary, you're gonna have all these people run to the right.
	But when you look at their record, it's not so conservative.
	So I would encourage everyone to not rush in to support anyone necessarily, but check out their record, check out their rhetoric and see especially who they've donated to.
	That's a good metric on where they're going to be politically.
	Yeah, absolutely, and you know, I put, I published another report today, speaking of who people have donated to, in this article that people can look, it's on Loomer.com, exposing, I just published it right before coming on tonight, exposing Norm Eisen and Melanie Sloan.
	The prolific Biden donors behind the effort to remove Trump from the Colorado ballot.
	So these people who I outlined tonight are receiving funding from Soros and I showed you how they're receiving funding as well.
	FEC records as early as October 24th, okay, so in 2020.
	Melanie Sloan.
	Give tons of money to the Joe Biden for President campaign.
	We see donations to Warnock in Georgia, you know, the seat in Georgia, the Senate seat.
	So Kamala Harris, so she's given money to the Kamala Harris, Raphael Warnock and Joe Biden.
	Interesting, right?
	Interesting how Melanie Sloan, the executive director of Crew, Donates to some of the most high-profile Democrats at the center of the stolen election in 2020.
	What a coincidence that is!
	We have Norm Eisen as well who gave to the Biden Victory Fund.
	Chuck Schumer.
	Obama for America.
	Hakeem Jeffries.
	Okay.
	Warnock for Georgia.
	John Ossoff.
	So really interesting political donations here you see.
	These are all races that many people believe were stolen.
	I think that's really interesting.
	And of course they use their allies in the mainstream media too, Dave.
	You know, a lot of people don't know this, but MSNBC host and anchor now, I guess, Claire McCaskill, who now has her own show that just launched a couple weeks ago.
	Coincidence, okay?
	Right before the trial, of course, because all these people are just They just happen to be in sync by coincidence.
	Isn't it interesting how this all happens?
	And Claire McCaskill is a former Democrat Senator.
	One of her staffers is the leading counsel for CRU.
	And Claire McCaskill is also a board member of CRU.
	What do you think about this?
	Members of the media being members of this organization as they get to control the narrative to the American people regarding this trial.
	Dave?
	There's no such thing as a coincidence, right?
	And anyone who tells you there's no such thing as a conspiracy doesn't really understand the history of politics or this country.
	It's no secret that Democrat left-wing politicians' organizations are in bed with mainstream media.
	In fact, the only difference between the Democrat party or these left-wing organizations and the media is that the media doesn't have to disclose its financial behavior.
	They are nothing more than the PR wing of the Democrat Party, and their job is to further a false narrative to smear conservatives.
	We have a question from Ricky Sky in the chat.
	Do you think that Lauren Boeber jerking off a leftist in public will get her primaried, or is her voting to keep Kevin the Rhino going to be the thing that costs her her seat?
	She's already getting primary.
	There are two primary challengers already, and since the controversy that she found herself in, one of her primary opponents, named Jeff Hurd, has seen an uptick in support financially.
	That's another question, too.
	Thank you for answering that, and actually, you know, not dodging the questions.
	I appreciate that.
	Someone said, what's Dave Williams' view on Lawrence challenger Jeff Hurd?
	I know you were just about to get into that.
	That's one of the other questions we have tonight.
	I think ultimately these primary challenges against Lauren Bovert are a waste of time because in Colorado we don't have a runoff system, we have a plurality system.
	So Jeff Hurd and this other individual Russ, I think his name is Russ Andrews, He and him are going to split the anti-Lauren Boebert vote, and Lauren is going to win with a plurality.
	So if they truly want to win or compete, then you're going to have to take Lauren Boebert one-on-one.
	And that's still a hard proposition, because there is going to be soft money support from third-party groups that want to protect Lauren Boebert, for right or wrong reasons.
	It's up to you.
	But ultimately, these new primary challenges are not going to go far.
	Well, I think that she's going to lose in the general, though, because as I highlighted earlier, this guy, Michael Huttner of Progress Now, who works with Melanie Sloan, he was appointed, actually, he was made He was, uh, you know, founder of Progress Now, and he's also the former CEO of Fenton Communications.
	Now, Fenton Communications, okay, uh, was founded by a guy by the name of David Fenton in 1982, and, uh, a lot of people don't know who David Fenton is.
	He's another one of these deep state operatives, and he's actually George Soros', uh, right-hand man.
	And so, David Fenton, uh, brings on Michael Hutner of Progress Now, Denver, Colorado, to be, uh, the CEO of Fenton Communications.
	Which does the communications work for George Soros.
	Okay, so basically he's the CEO, this Michael Hutner, of George Soros' personal communications firm.
	And then he's the guy who hand-selected, this Michael Hutner, hand-selected Adam Frisch to run against Lauren Boebert.
	And so, that's what people need to be paying attention to.
	Really interesting stuff here going on.
	All these people are tied together.
	I mean, we'd be here all night, and obviously we have John Pierce coming on, so I would really encourage everybody to check this out.
	But you brought up Jared Polis, and Jared Polis, the governor of Colorado, did you know that just two weeks ago, okay, just two weeks ago, Progress Now had their 20th anniversary celebration in Colorado?
	And at this 20th anniversary celebration, Dave, you had people like Hickenlooper, you had Jared Polis, you had Jenna Griswold, your Secretary of State, and at this event, you can scroll down, these are some photos here on the screen, full screen here, Governor Jared Polis helped progress now, he was a former advisory board member of Progress Now.
	And Jenna Griswold, the Secretary of State, is there with these operatives.
	So I already showed you how Michael Hutner and Melanie Sloan are together, and yet she's hanging out with these same people at this Progress Now event hosted by Michael Hutner in Denver.
	So she should have to recuse herself because she's clearly An associate of a colleague.
	We already know that Soros funds her as well.
	Are there any efforts being made by the Colorado GOP to try to get Jenna Griswold to recuse herself?
	Like, how can this lady actually oversee an election when she's attending parties with the people trying to get Trump off the ballot?
	Yeah, we do have an election integrity committee that's headed up by a great, great patriot, and they're looking for ways to ensure that we can stop her from doing what she does so often.
	She's a hyper-partisan.
	She puts her thumb on the scale all the time.
	And, you know, one thing we do want to do is reach out to Judicial Watch because they sued Jenna Griswold over our dirty voter rolls.
	And we want to make sure that the settlement that they had received is actually being adhered to.
	And because if it's not, then we can spring into action and go to court and help drive or put her in a corner where she would have to comply with at least some of the good laws that we still have on the books.
	Yeah, here's this photo from the 20th.
	As recently as October 14th, 2023, Colorado Secretary of State Jenna Griswold, Michael Huttner, Governor Polis, Democrat U.S.
	Senator John Hickenlooper, and also Colorado State Senator Jesse Danielson were all photographed together at the 20th anniversary celebration of Progress Now in Colorado.
	Governor Polis is a founding board member of Progress Now and was previously mentioned, as was previously mentioned, Michael Huttner is the founder.
	So here's a photo of your Secretary of State hanging out with, at this party, hosted by the same people tied in with Crewe, okay?
	State Senator Jesse Danielson, U.S.
	Senator John Hickenlooper, and Jenna Griswold all hanging out together.
	Yeah, I can't overstate it.
	This is all incestuous.
	These people have known each other for 20 years or so, give or take, and they have been ruining our state and trying to ruin our country.
	Jared Polis wants to run for president.
	A lot of people don't understand this.
	In 2028, Jared Polis is going to run, and he's probably going to have a lot of money behind his... I don't know if he'll be able to win the nomination against someone like Gavin Newsom, but he wants to be president.
	Well, I hate to break it to Colorado Governor Jared Polis.
	If he has a fancy for trying to secure the title of first homosexual president, Barack Hussein Obama already holds that title, buddy, so you're not going to be anything special.
	Anyway, continuing on in this article.
	You can see for yourself the photographs from these parties.
	One of the pillows that they had on display at this event was, Dear America, sorry about Lauren Boebert.
	Sincerely, most of Colorado.
	I mean, it probably should say most of America, if we're being honest, which is why she's getting primaried, but still totally inappropriate for the Secretary of State Uh, to be in attendance where this activity is taking place.
	If I was, if I was Lauren Boeber, I wouldn't feel comfortable about this at all, right?
	If I was a Republican voter, I wouldn't feel comfortable about this at all.
	You have the Secretary of State, Democrat, obviously, Jenna Griswold, openly photographing herself at this event where they have hyper-partisan, anti-Trump and anti-Republican candidate materials.
	Yeah, look, there are no fair elections in Colorado, alright?
	We have a hyper-partisan election official, Jenna Griswold, who puts her thumb on the scale, no question about that.
	She doesn't want to enforce cleaning up the voter rolls.
	She doesn't want to enforce signature verification.
	She doesn't want to keep Donald Trump on the ballot, even though he's a qualified candidate and should be allowed on the ballot.
	She does everything possible to do things that undermine our actual democratic processes, and every opportunity we can to hold her in check, we will.
	And before I let you go, I do want to get your take on this.
	President Donald Trump did release a video statement about the trial in Colorado.
	He released this statement on True Social the other day about how Soros-funded political operatives are trying to kick him off the ballot.
	Let's go ahead.
	I want to get your take on this video.
	We're going to play this video now.
	A fake trial is currently taking place to try and illegally remove my name from the ballot.
	I often say that 2024 will be the most important election in the history of our country.
	The reason for that, and that statement, is that our country is being destroyed by people who have no idea what they're doing, or even worse, they may very well have an idea that They may hate our country, and they may want to see it destroyed.
	But it may also be the last election we ever have.
	If this election doesn't work, if this election is rigged and stolen, If bad things happen, our country will not survive.
	If Crooked Joe and the Democrats get away with removing my name from the ballot, then there will never be a free election in America again.
	We will have become a dictatorship where your president is chosen for you.
	You will no longer have a vote or certainly won't have a meaningful vote.
	And you could say, frankly, that that has already begun.
	This truly is our final chance to save America.
	And with the 2024 election now less than one year away, this is your chance to take a stand against tyrants that support the one and only movement that can save our country and make America great again.
	We must win in 2024.
	If we don't win, we will not have a country.
	If we do win, we will make America greater than it's ever been before.
	Thank you. - Very powerful clip there.
	Looks like, uh, I think there was a technical difficulty.
	Uh, John, John Pierce is about to call in any moment now.
	He's our next guest tonight, but Dave seems to have disconnected, so we're going to try to connect him again so that he can give his closing remarks before we get John on.
	So in the meantime, though, In response to this video, it was very sad, right, to have to see this video statement from President Trump.
	I mean, the position that they have him in.
	Oh, we have him back now, Dave.
	So Dave, as I was saying, and I'm sure you saw that clip, unfortunately, a bit of a technical difficulty there, but you're back.
	I wanted to get your take on this video, what you think about Trump's demeanor in it.
	We see General Flynn this week.
	You can scroll up on the screen and look at this tweet from the article.
	If you scroll up, you can see General Flynn responded to this, and he actually retweeted my video and said, This video below of real Donald Trump is a sobering message for all Americans, like Trump or not.
	For him to be speaking like this is a sign of the times that we are currently facing.
	America is under stage by a takeover of our federal system of government, as well as many of the, and you'll have to go on and read it later because the screenshot cuts off there.
	But ultimately, you know, even General Flynn, who I saw the other day at the screening of Police Day at Mar-a-Lago, we were talking about this, and he goes, Oh, man, he goes, I just hated to see Trump in that position.
	You know, that was a really sobering message, and he even said it sounds like a message of, Of desperation, not that Donald Trump is desperate, but that I don't expect there to be a favorable ruling for President Trump.
	And so it's a it's a desperate situation because how are you supposed to get a fair trial in America when the courts are rigged against you?
	And so really sad to see, you know, such such powerful figures in our country come out and admit not defeat, but just admit that, you know, look, guys, like it's not going to matter anymore because we're not going to have fair elections and we're not going to have Right.
	Look, this is what your viewers and your listeners need to understand.
	The worst president in the 21st century is afraid of losing to the greatest president that we've seen.
	That is what you guys need to know.
	They are trying, by hook or by crook, trying to keep Donald Trump off the ballot because they're afraid that they're going to lose power.
	They're the true insurrectionists.
	They're the people that are really trying to undermine democracy in our elections because they know that if it comes down to a fair fight, Donald Trump is going to defeat Joe Biden every day of the week.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Absolutely, and with that, any last comments?
	Any last comments?
	I know you said that you've been following this closely.
	Are you planning on going to the closing statements on November 15th in Colorado?
	Yeah, I actually do plan on being there in person.
	I want to see this get wrapped up and see Donald Trump's team and our team put together a good closing argument.
	Again, we're not certain that it's going to matter for the judge that's deciding this, but we do feel that we're going to win on appeal if it goes all the way to the U.S.
	Supreme Court.
	That's really great.
	And, you know, we all have to be fighting for President Trump and hopefully people watching tonight now have a better understanding of these dark money operatives.
	And, you know, it's not just George Soros, right?
	You have former U.S.
	Senators in the form of Claire McCaskill.
	You have former CIA operatives in the form of Evan McMullin, who, of course, ran for president against Trump in 2016 and is very closely aligned with Mitt Romney.
	You have so-called Libertarians, Republicans and Democrats in the deep state that have all aligned with this group crew to try to take President Trump out and so this is a battle that everybody needs to, you know, be paying attention to.
	People need to be supporting you and your efforts and so I, you know, I'm really grateful that you gave me so much of your time tonight because it really is a shame that there aren't many other journalists who decided to interview about this.
	I'll interview you about this.
	Where can people support the Colorado GOP and contribute to these legal funds since you have committed, right, on video tonight that the money will go towards Donald Trump?
	Sure, absolutely.
	Well, the best link to go to is the one on our social media.
	In the next couple days, we'll go ahead and make sure there's a pop-up for the legal fee itself.
	But, you know, visit our website generally for information.
	It's cologop.org.
	That's cologop.org.
	And follow us on Twitter.
	It's our same handle.
	It's at cologop.
	And you'll be able to interact with me and the party, and we'll get you all the information you need to get plugged in.
	And where can people follow you?
	You can follow me on my personal account.
	It's Rep, R-E-P, Dave Williams, D-A-V-E-W-I-L-L-I-A-M-S.
	Any last comments before I let you go tonight, Dave?
	Yeah, we're gonna make sure that we beat back this true insurrectionist plot from the Democrats, and we're gonna make sure that Donald Trump's on the ballot so that you can elect him in November.
	Dave, thank you so much for spending your Friday evening with me.
	Thank you so much for, you know, fighting alongside President Donald Trump for Colorado voters to be able to vote for who they want to vote for.
	And, you know, we wish President Trump all the best, and hopefully, you know, hopefully, hopefully, hopefully President Trump is able to beat this back.
	I would say hopefully the judge doesn't rule against him, but I think we all kind of know what's coming down this, down the road these next 12 days.
	Dave, thank you again.
	See you soon.
	You bet.
	Take care.
	Thank you.
	Wow.
	So, really great interview.
	You know, I'm a fair interviewer.
	I do not give softball questions, okay?
	We're going to cover a lot of issues, and I want to make sure that Loomer Unleashed is a platform for all GOP chairs from all states across this country.
	To come on and talk, but we're not going to give you softball interviews.
	Okay, we're not going to avoid certain controversial topics.
	We're going to say it like it is, and we're going to see who answers the questions.
	And so that was really great.
	You know, he didn't dodge any questions.
	Dave Williams, that's the chairman of the Colorado GOP, really did his best to answer all the questions tonight, and I hope that Those of you watching found it to be informative and found it to be educational about the gravity of the situation that is currently taking place in Colorado.
	I want to get to my next guest tonight.
	My next guest is somebody who, personal friend of mine, but also, too, somebody who I greatly admire.
	He's a brilliant attorney, a Harvard attorney, actually.
	He's my attorney.
	He represents me in my RICO case against Facebook and Twitter.
	But also, John has represented many high-profile conservative clients who have been demonized for their support of President Trump.
	He was able to get a pardon for George Papadopoulos.
	He was able to represent Rudy Giuliani in his Ukraine case.
	He represented Carter Page in the FISA lawsuit.
	And he also represented Kyle Rittenhouse when the Democrats were trying to destroy the Second Amendment.
	And so with that, I want to welcome my next guest, John Pierce, superstar attorney and founder of the NCLU.
	John, it's so great to see you tonight.
	How are you?
	Well, that was quite the introduction.
	Thank you so much, Laura.
	It's always great to see you.
	Thank you for having me on.
	Of course!
	You know, you are brilliant.
	Obviously, you were... Well, just tell people a little bit about yourself.
	You know, maybe I'll let you tell everybody about your background so that they understand your passion and how you could be working in any of the top law firms in America with your Ivy League credentials, but you're choosing to not live a life of luxury so that you can fight for Political prisoners in America.
	If you could just give the viewers a brief breakdown of your background and where you went to school and how you got to where you are now, John.
	Sure, yeah, I'll try to be concise.
	I mean, essentially, I think the best way to describe it is I'm a recovering big firm lawyer.
	I went to Notre Dame undergrad and I had an Army ROTC scholarship and then served for about three years on active duty in the U.S.
	Army as an M1A1 Abrams tank platoon leader in the 1st Cavalry Division at Fort Hood.
	I was airborne and all that kind of stuff.
	And then I guess somebody in Cambridge, Massachusetts, in the admissions office made some kind of mistake and I snuck my way into Harvard Law School up there.
	Managed to get on the Law Review, actually.
	I'm convinced that's because it was an anonymous competition, so they didn't know who I was.
	But after that, essentially worked in the big global elite law firms, for lack of a better way to put it, for about Uh, about 15, 16 years.
	And, um, uh, it was a partner at some of the big law firms like Quinn Emanuel and Latham & Watkins.
	And, um, eventually, you know, just really, um, you know, it wasn't the right fit for me.
	Um, kind of got tired of working for the big corporations, uh, et cetera.
	And so I started my own firm, uh, at the end of 2016, beginning of 2017.
	And, you know, it really happened to be, uh, just at the time, um, right after President Trump got elected and right before he was inaugurated.
	And, you know, kind of unbeknownst to me, even though I kind of followed the news, all these things were really percolating with respect to the Russia hoax kind of at that time.
	And about a year later, I got hooked up with George Papadopoulos.
	He saw one of my partners on Fox News giving an interview about his case.
	So I represented him, ultimately got him pardoned by President Trump.
	That led to me representing Carter Page and all of his FISA abuse litigations.
	And we look forward to that ultimately going to trial in D.C.
	once some things get overturned on appeal in that big case.
	And that led to representing Mary Giuliani, Tulsi Gabbard.
	I'm the one that Halo jumped in there to Kenosha to represent Kyle Rittenhouse and fight for the Second Amendment, the right of self-defense.
	That led to immediately January 6th, and as you know, you've been a huge help on this front in a way few people have, representing dozens of January 6th defendants who are actually in a felony trial right now.
	And of course, you know, your case is incredibly important, the Big Tech Tyranny case, the Civil Reco case against Twitter and Facebook.
	Zuckerberg, Dorsey, the FBI, etc.
	Some election interference work related actually to your last election that you actually won.
	And some vaccine mandate litigation.
	So it's really been a tsunami of work in the last several years because of what's going on in the country.
	Yeah, absolutely, John.
	And I know that right now you are currently representing, through NCLU, if you can touch on that, too, dozens of January 6th political prisoners.
	And, you know, you're helping these people.
	You gave up your life of luxury.
	You were working for a very fancy law firm, Quinn Emanuel, which is known as one of the most ritzy law firms in America, making a lot of money.
	And you gave it all up to basically live in hotel rooms so that you can Just take care of J6 political prisoners who can't necessarily even afford their own legal fees.
	And so you've certainly made a lot of sacrifices in order to help people.
	A lot of lawyers get a bad rap because, let's be honest, a lot of lawyers are just money hungry snakes who want to basically take all their clients' money.
	And then they drop them like a hot potato when they don't have any more money to pay them.
	And I have personally witnessed Jon on the phone with clients crying, saying, oh, I just don't have any money.
	I feel like my wife is going to leave me.
	I feel like, you know, I have nothing left.
	And Jon has said, don't worry, I'm never going to abandon you.
	We're going to get through this.
	And so, you know, I can truly speak to the testament of his character and how much How much he has really sacrificed and invested into helping these J6ers.
	And of course John's a big Trump supporter too, which we love because we love Trump here at Lumar Unleashed.
	So John, I brought you on tonight because...
	I remember going to D.C.
	with you and sitting in these trials, right, watching them, especially the Proud Boys trial, and you said, oh, I'm calling it now.
	They're going to try to use Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to keep Donald Trump off of the ballot by accusing him of an insurrection, and they're going to try to charge him with seditious conspiracy.
	And, I don't know, maybe you're a psychic, too, because everything that you said turned out to happen.
	It turned out to be true.
	I got so annoyed watching these ridiculous legal experts.
	They had this guy that looked like a human Dumbo testifying as some expert in the trial this week about Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, but it doesn't really seem like they know what they're talking about.
	Give us your understanding of Section 3 of the 14th Amendment and how this could impact the 2024 election as it relates to January 6.
	Sure.
	Yeah, you're absolutely right.
	I mean, it was very clear early on with respect to the way that the Justice Department was proceeding in all these January 6 cases that really their ultimate goal was to go after President Trump and then to use a conviction based on January 6 to try to invoke Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
	And, you know, they've gotten started early on that front.
	They haven't even waited for A conviction yet, but so it is absolutely frivolous to attempt to use the 14th Amendment Section 3 in this context, and there are lots of reasons for that actually, and I'll just kind of start going down the list and jump in if you want to focus on any of these in particular.
	But, you know, number one, and Professor Alan Dershowitz has written and talked extensively about this particular point, and it really is the end of the conversation.
	And all these points are actually the end of the conversation.
	It's just that there are a lot of reasons why this provision does not apply.
	And, you know, number one is, this is a law that was written for Confederates in the Civil War.
	The reason that this was passed was to ensure that Confederates from the Civil War, you know, did not hold certain offices in the United States.
	And you know, one of the reasons that that is obvious is that Everybody knew who the insurrectionists were and who engaged in rebellion at that time.
	That's why there is no particular clear standard in the 14th Amendment as to what constitutes insurrection, so to speak, because everyone knew.
	They were all in uniforms.
	There were no secrets.
	So the first, this just does not apply in the modern day because it was designed for Confederates after the Civil War.
	The next thing, and the next reason that this cannot be applied the way they're trying to apply right now, and this is in the actual text of the 14th Amendment, Section 5, this was intended and it explicitly is only able to be enforced by Congress.
	So if you look at Section 5 of the 14th Amendment, It makes clear that Congress is the entity that can enforce the provisions of the 14th Amendment.
	And so, you know, you can't have a state courts all across the country attempting to, you know, litigate this question under the 14th Amendment.
	Just the text makes clear that Congress is the one to enforce it.
	The third reason, also based on the text of the 14th Amendment, is that it does not actually apply to the office of the presidency.
	So if you look at the text of the 14th Amendment, it speaks specifically about congressmen and senators and then electors.
	to the vice presidency and the presidency.
	If it were intended to apply to the presidency itself, it would have stated that explicitly because it's very clear that they were able to state that with respect to the electors of those offices, but they do not identify those offices specifically.
	Another reason is really just a practical reason, and that is that, you know, this would hamstring an unknown number of candidates in the future all up and down the ballot if you had local state courts or secretaries of state or clerks of court or anything like that who are able to essentially self-enforce this provision
	That's not practicable, and it cannot be what was intended when it was drafted.
	Another point, as you know, and as the Department of Justice knows, there was no insurrection.
	There have been no charges for insurrection.
	There is absolutely no Evidence that there was an insurrection, and I think the vast majority of the people in America after the last few years are seeing that, you know, the evidence is clear that whatever happened on January 6th, it was not an insurrection in any way that was intended under the 14th Amendment.
	Finally, a final couple of points.
	This has already been litigated.
	I think you've mentioned that a few times.
	This has already been litigated in Congress.
	The second impeachment trial related specifically to this.
	President Trump was acquitted and this is not the kind of thing that can be really re-litigated in state courts around the country.
	And then finally, there are real First Amendment concerns with respect to this.
	All of the conduct that President Trump is quote-unquote accused of in these frivolous litigations across the country really relate to core political speech about the fraud that occurred in the election and his attempt both as a potential candidate in the future, but also as the President of the United States
	Um, at that time to ensure that the elections were legitimate, and at most it involves sort of political arm twisting, which is the way our system works and is entirely protected by the First Amendment.
	So you cannot have an interpretation of the 14th Amendment that essentially prevents a presidential candidate from being on the ballot.
	So what do you think is going to happen?
	Because obviously, I don't know if you were watching on the other end before you came on tonight, my interview with Dave Williams, the Colorado GOP chairman, but nobody's really expecting Donald Trump to come out on this in terms of the ruling that's expected to be made by this judge, right?
	The leftist judge, Democrat judge who hates Trump.
	And so this is obviously going to have to make its way on appeal all the way to the Supreme Court.
	What do you think is going to happen?
	I mean, you've had cases go to the Supreme Court before.
	You're familiar with very high-stakes litigation and very high-profile cases.
	You've obviously represented a lot of Trump administration appointees.
	You've also been involved in very high-profile and I guess you could say toxic media situations Given the fact that you've represented Kyle Rittenhouse, okay?
	And you saw how the deck was stacked against him.
	What do you think is going to happen if this goes to the Supreme Court?
	Well, first and foremost, I mean, there's no question that the judge is going to find that he should be kicked off the ballot.
	I mean, the deck is stacked against him completely.
	You know, this is all coordinated beforehand.
	As always, your great investigative work has revealed that this has been long in the planning.
	This is a coordinated effort.
	This is lawfare.
	It's funded by dark money.
	It's funded by Soros.
	It's funded by the Democratic Party.
	So it's a foregone conclusion.
	That the judge is going to, you know, in the first instance, rule that he should be kicked off the ballot.
	I think the key thing is that President Trump and his legal team, they really need to go on offense.
	You know, they need to immediately take this issue as fast as they can to the U.S.
	Supreme Court.
	I don't, you know, you have to research the procedures exactly in terms of how it works in Colorado.
	I don't think it's really worth them even trying to go to the Colorado Supreme Court.
	They may have to to exhaust that path potentially and then go to the U.S.
	Supreme Court.
	But they need to get this in front of the U.S.
	Supreme Court quickly and get it dealt with decisively and get a ruling that the 14th Amendment does not apply here.
	Because what you're going to see is that these proceedings are now going to pop up all over the country.
	They're going to sprout in every state, all over the place.
	And from a practical standpoint, If he doesn't get this dealt with decisively, he's going to be stretched so thin with respect to this kind of lawfare that it's going to be very, it's just going to be very difficult for him to, you know, function the campaign to raise money.
	Well, it's already, look, I think that it's really energized the base in terms of people donating to support him.
	He broke fundraising records when, you know, he was arrested in Fulton County, Georgia, and he had the mug shot.
	So, I think this is energizing people.
	But you're absolutely right.
	I mean, I'm looking at an article now here, exactly what you said, John.
	These lawsuits are going to be replicated in other states.
	Just from yesterday, the trial over an effort in Minnesota to keep President Trump off the 2024 ballot began Thursday at the state Supreme Court.
	As a similar case continued in Colorado.
	And so they just want to overwhelm Trump and his legal team so that he has to literally pay for lawyers to be everywhere to represent him all across the country and just drain his money in these very contentious and frivolous, you know, legal cases.
	And I think that his attorney Alina Haba described it very well today.
	outside of the courtroom or the courthouse in New York City.
	Different type of case, of course, but she said this is the biggest waste of New York City taxpayer money I've ever seen in my life.
	Don't think that these lawsuits are just going to be independently funded.
	You have hostile Democrat supervisors of elections that are going to probably try to use taxpayer resources through the SOE's office to keep Trump off the ballot, and And so, how are people supposed to feel if their taxpayer money is going to be used to fund this litigation against President Trump?
	I mean, do you fear, as the founder of NCLU, National Constitutional Law Union, which is focused on our constitutional liberties, do you fear that we are losing free speech and free and fair elections in America?
	Oh, we're absolutely losing free speech and free and fair elections.
	I mean, our Constitution is, look, it's been getting shredded for the last several years as, you know, nobody knows that better than you.
	It's getting shredded at an accelerating pace, kind of as we go forward.
	Obviously, your case deals very specifically with the issues of free speech and election interference.
	It relates to your own free speech.
	It relates to the way that the big tech companies conspired with the federal government to censor the Hunter Biden laptop story and essentially throw the last presidential election.
	Yeah, and my lawsuit that you represent me on, my RICO case, also deals with President Trump's election.
	And so, now that I have you on, you know, I was focused on talking about Colorado tonight, but my case was dismissed this last week.
	It's blatant.
	It's just so blatant.
	We have Elon Musk admitting to everything that is literally included in my complaint He says that Twitter isn't a social media company, it's a crime scene.
	Everything is backed up by his own statements and yet this leftist judge dismisses it.
	So yeah, why don't you just give everybody an update because I haven't even... I've been so busy, believe it or not, fighting for Trump and exposing all these political operatives that I don't even have time to do PR on my own lawsuit.
	I really don't.
	I haven't had time to even issue a statement about it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So I can give folks an update.
	And as you probably understand, I need to be somewhat mindful about the way I talk about any kind of pending litigation.
	And in this case, you know, to make sure I protect you.
	But from a procedural standpoint, the case has been dismissed at the district court level in the Northern District of California.
	by a magistrate judge there.
	We have filed a notice of appeal to the Ninth Circuit.
	The briefing on that will unfold relatively quickly.
	We'll file your brief in December, I believe.
	And then the other side will get a chance, and then we'll file a reply, and then it'll be decided at the Ninth Circuit.
	There may be an oral argument.
	There may not be.
	And, you know, we're cautiously optimistic that that will send it back down to the District Court to proceed with discovery.
	If that does not occur, then we'll head straight to the Supreme Court.
	Yeah, and you know, you've been with me to California, you've been with me to D.C., so, you know, you've seen it.
	And, you know, you've told me, aside from your J6 clients, you think that what has happened to me in my case, and, you know, you were also the lawyer that represented the individuals that filed the case challenging my election in 2022.
	You described it!
	You even described it in these legal briefings as the most blatant civil rights violation of a private citizen you've ever seen in your life.
	Yeah, look, I mean, what the big tech companies, again, you know, conspiring with elements within the federal government and other elements in corporate America did to you is, look, it's as bad as I've ever seen.
	And terrorist organizations, too, because that's an element of our case, too.
	I mean, the fact that you had members of Congress actually testify, well, you had these big tech executives testify in a hearing with members of Congress, and they were forced to admit that they are state actors, right?
	And so everything in my lawsuit, this RICO case in which I outlined their ties to Islamic terrorist organizations and the way that they're giving material aid to these groups, and they are a criminal enterprise committing organized crime and racketeering like a mob, which is why we use the RICO statute.
	I'm always talking about it, but maybe you can shed some light on it as my attorney, because sometimes people say, oh, you're being so overdramatic.
	So, no, why don't you tell them how serious this really is?
	Yeah, and look, what often happens with you, Laura, is I think you're about two or three years ahead of, you know, the rest of the country in terms of what's actually happening.
	You know, you actually see it very early on.
	And now, you know, the rest of the country, Congress, is, you know, just kind of catching up with it.
	And look, as we set forth in the complaint, you know, in our view, you know, this was this this is one of the most brazen criminal conspiracies in American history.
	You know, you have massively powerful, essentially monopolistic social media companies that now it is absolutely clear We're conspiring directly with numerous agencies within the federal government in the law enforcement and intelligence apparatus.
	You know, in a certain sense, you know, it's fortunate that Elon Musk did purchase Twitter because he, you know, he released the Twitter files and that kind of started the domino effect of a lot of these things coming out, as you mentioned, and as we allege in the complaint, he stated flat out that he, you know, didn't just purchase a technology company or a social media company.
	He purchased a crime scene.
	And so this is, and I think the federal district court judge, I believe it, I'm not sure what state it was in, but it's in the Fifth Circuit.
	It's that Missouri versus Biden case, I believe.
	You know, they, that district court judge essentially found that this is Among other things, the most brazen and serious violation of the First Amendment in American history.
	And that doesn't even touch on the civil conspiracy and criminal conspiracy aspects that we set forth in great detail in your complaint.
	The Fifth Circuit affirmed that.
	I think that case is at the Supreme Court right now.
	It may well be that, you know, you head back up to the Supreme Court in your case.
	Again, look, after doing it once again, I already had a case go to the Supreme Court.
	I had a lawsuit I filed in 2018 in which I accused these companies of behaving as state actors.
	In 2018, I filed a case and I even said in that complaint that Google, Facebook, Twitter, and Apple were working to, as state actors, okay, in violation of, I believe, Section 230, to To steal the election from Donald Trump and to also influence midterm elections.
	And that was in 2018, and I was called a kook.
	You wouldn't believe some of the nasty things that conservative commentators said.
	Oh, this Republican crazy activist saying that these companies are state actors.
	And now everybody's agreeing with it.
	And that case actually went all the way to the Supreme Court in 2021, as you know.
	And ultimately, Justice Clarence Thomas issued an opinion about my case in which he said that These are very important matters that need to be addressed, but the court isn't going to address them at this time.
	And what was interesting about this, and you laughed about this with me too, I had another lawyer representing me on the case, Larry Kleeman.
	He goes, I've never seen this before.
	And I'm like, what is it?
	They refer to you by your docket number.
	I'm so censored that they didn't even want to put my name, my name, okay, that was on this case in the official Supreme Court response.
	They said it's the first time I've ever seen an individual referred to by their docket number as opposed to their name.
	Well, you've certainly been proven right at this point in the court of public opinion, you know, and now we're going to get justice for you, you know, in an actual court of law.
	And one of the things that I think is, you know, great reason to be optimistic on the issues presented in your case and with respect to the First Amendment and election integrity and some of the other things is that one of the greatest accomplishments of President Trump is what he did with the Supreme Court nominations.
	And that's one of the reasons that we're still in the fight with respect to a lot of these issues, are his Supreme Court picks.
	And that's why we've got to get him back in office because this country's in real trouble.
	Absolutely, and I know I'm a big supporter, and you've represented the J6ers for a while now, and you and I have talked about this extensively.
	Donald Trump is the only candidate who's committed to give full pardons to all the J6ers.
	You know, Ron DeSantis wants them locked up.
	You see that a guy who is hoping for his political challenger to be locked up, Ron DeSantis has not and will not lift a finger to help any January 6th defendant.
	What you've got to remember about Ron DeSantis, and you know my feelings about him, and I know your feelings about him, is that he was a federal prosecutor.
	He is part of the Deep State network.
	You know, these are his people.
	You know, that's what he did for a living.
	And, you know, the first time that I really realized there was an issue with Governor DeSantis is when he did not do anything.
	It actually didn't even say anything for about nine or ten hours with respect to the Mar-a-Lago raid at President Trump's personal residence in the sovereign state of Florida, which at the time Governor DeSantis was the chief executive of.
	I think that was disgraceful, and I think it was obvious at that point that he had motivations that went beyond protecting the rights of Florida citizens.
	Absolutely, and I agree with you completely.
	And many people have even said, and I know that I said this to President Trump when I met with President Trump, I said, you know, I'm sure Ron DeSantis knew about the raid before it took place.
	He did.
	Oh, I don't think there's any question that he had to know.
	He knew about the raid.
	He didn't do anything.
	He could have sent state police or state guardsmen to encircle Mar-a-Lago and protect Donald Trump, but he didn't.
	He didn't.
	I really do believe that Ron DeSantis had advanced knowledge of the Mar-a-Lago raid before it took place, and I even said this to President Donald Trump.
	I said it to his face.
	Oh, there is no question that he would have had advance notice of that kind of operation in the state of Florida regarding a former president.
	And you're absolutely right.
	He should have used the tools at his disposal to protect the constitutional rights of Donald Trump and the sovereignty of the state of Florida.
	You know, I'm not, you know, looking for or advocating any kind of shooting conflict between, you know, Florida law enforcement and the federal government, but there's a point at which you have to make a show as a chief executive in this republic that you understand the way our system works, that the states are sovereign.
	We have a system of dual sovereignty.
	The federal government does not have a general police power under the Constitution.
	It does not exist.
	And at a certain point, you have to protect your state and the rights of the citizens of your state, for example, by not allowing the United States Capitol Police to open offices in Florida.
	Absolutely.
	Florida, it's and I'm going to I get really worked up about this topic, so I'll try to I'll try to refrain myself.
	But the idea that the United States Capitol Police would have offices in Florida and that Ron DeSantis would allow that to happen is just mind-blowing.
	And it really tells you everything you need to know about the guy.
	And he did do that.
	That's not just John saying this.
	Ron DeSantis literally allowed for the Capitol Police to set up offices and also there are numerous J6 family members whose husbands, one of which, her husband, was dying from cancer and they're Floridians and they begged Ron DeSantis to get involved because the Capitol Police weren't giving him his, or the prison guards were not giving her husband the cancer medication.
	And he's missing from my understanding.
	He's at large, right?
	He's now a fugitive.
	So that is Chris Worrell.
	He is a former client of mine.
	We represented him during that entire time frame in which he was detained and not getting his cancer medications.
	We fought and fought and fought over the course of about seven months.
	And you tried contacting Governor DeSantis, too.
	Let's get that on the record.
	You tried contacting Governor Ron DeSantis and saying, hello, you know, this guy is dying from cancer.
	He's being tortured in a jail cell.
	Are you going to step in and do something, Ron DeSantis?
	You know, want to act like a tough guy?
	Want to act like you're protecting people's rights and liberties?
	But what happened, John, when you guys reached out to Governor Ron DeSantis about your client, Chris Worrell, being denied his cancer medication as a J6 political prisoner?
	His family attempted to reach out to Governor DeSantis numerous times, and they got no response whatsoever.
	And so, ultimately, Chris Worrell was released, in large part due to the work that we did fighting for him there.
	And Judge Lamberth, Senior Judge Lamberth in the District Court of Columbia that we have a trial in front of on December 1st, actually, he ultimately found that there was a civil rights violation with respect to Chris Worrell, and held the, I believe it's held the Bureau of Prisons in Contempt, I believe that's right, in order of investigation by the U.S.
	Marshals.
	Now, you know, unfortunately, there was sort of a period of time when Chris, you know, his whereabouts were unknown.
	He is now back in custody.
	He was located and he is back in custody.
	I've not represented him for the last couple years.
	Obviously, you know, praying for him.
	He's a great guy, doesn't deserve what's happening to him, and wish him and his family well.
	But you do represent over two dozen J6 defendants, many of whom live in the state of Florida.
	I think it's over three dozen at this point in various stages of proceedings, from brand new cases to cases that are in trial as we speak, to sentencing phase, to the appellate phase.
	Yes, and Florida, there are lots and lots of folks from Florida.
	I believe Florida has by far actually the most January 6th defendants.
	We do.
	We have the number, we are the state with the highest number of J6 defendants.
	And honestly, this was it for me.
	I have liked Ron DeSantis for many reasons, mainly because he allowed for me to be the only candidate in the nation to not have access to social media, and he showed me through his inaction as a governor that he wasn't willing to fight back against not only election interference, but just blatant civil rights violations like me getting banned from my bank and being harassed and being red flagged in the state of Florida.
	It's just the fact that I was subjected to this to the point of like losing my livelihood and not wondering if I was gonna be able to like pay my bills and the governor wouldn't do anything when I'm like one of the most well-known conservative activists in the state, if not the country.
	It was just so evil.
	I can't emphasize.
	It triggers me.
	I get a physical, visceral reaction and you're my lawyer.
	You've seen it in person.
	I know it does.
	I literally feel like I have PTSD from it because of the way that Big Tech has tortured me.
	You've seen it.
	You and I have been in litigation with opposing counsel, of course, and I've had to literally step out because I like uncontrollably start sobbing like it this stuff emotionally screws with you.
	I don't know how to explain it, but I sympathize with President Trump.
	I sympathize with the J6 political prisoners because I know what it's like to be psychologically tortured by these people and I will never vote for anybody who allows for that to happen to a citizen of their state let alone a citizen of their country.
	Yeah, and again, you know, you're somebody who knows what's going on way before the rest of us do, you know, in the country at large.
	And so, you know, you obviously knew what Governor Sanders was about long before, you know, the rest of us did and the country did.
	And that's why it's so important that we got you back on Twitter and you got your voice back.
	And now, look, I mean, I don't think anybody in the country has had a bigger impact on the primary, which is now over, in terms of exposing who Ron DeSantis is and ensuring that he comes nowhere close to a nomination for the White House.
	I want to pivot over to the chat now because we have a lot of eager people wanting to ask questions.
	In the meantime, if you are interested, if you're waiting to ask your questions in the chat, give us your website, John, in the meantime so that people can go and make a donation.
	I want everybody to donate $5, $10, $20, $50, $100, whatever you can afford.
	Make a commitment and try to help these J6 Patriots and donate to John's work because they're doing incredible work.
	What's the website, John?
	Thank you so much, Laura.
	It's NCLU.org.
	NCLU.org.
	It's the National Constitutional Law Union.
	We now have our membership option set up.
	So if, you know, look, if half the people watching this right now go to that website and become a monthly member, You know, you're going to take care of, you know, a couple of January 6th defendants right there in terms of their ability to defend themselves.
	So this is so important.
	We want to have millions of card-carrying members of the NCLU rather than the ACLU because we have to make sure that, look, we're going to take our country back.
	We're going to get President Trump back in office.
	It's going to be largely thanks to, you know, MAGA warriors like you.
	But the key thing after that is we have to make sure that we never come this close to tyranny again.
	We can never let the United States Constitution be put at such risk again.
	And that involves fighting in the trenches for regular people whose constitutional rights have been violated.
	Absolutely.
	So we have a couple chats.
	I believe my producer is telling me we have a couple super chats.
	A couple super chat questions.
	So let's see.
	Let's pull these questions up and see who...
	If you have a question, by the way, you can put it in the chat, but people who submit their Rumble Rants at the bottom, that's when you contribute and you ask your question.
	Those, of course, will be prioritized.
	That's how you can get to the top of the chat to ask your question.
	But we'll be taking questions right now for John Pierce.
	Let's see.
	This is an incredible show.
	So many name drops.
	I'll have to watch again.
	Amazing.
	NCLU, not ACLU.
	Yes, it's a play on words because John wanted to have an organization that does what the ACLU originally claimed that they were going to do, but it doesn't do.
	So yes, it's National Constitutional Law Union.
	One of the questions is, John, will the appeal process move fast enough to prevent the state from keeping Trump's name off the ballot in Colorado before the United States Supreme Court can weigh in, assuming all other appeals are denied?
	So that is a terrific question.
	And it's actually the reason I said earlier that President Trump and his legal team have to go on offense right now.
	Because here's what could happen.
	Look, all these lawfare attacks, all these frivolous litigations, as you mentioned, Laura, they are backfiring.
	and they are helping President Trump from a political standpoint, gain support in the polls, raise money.
	There's no question about that.
	It's yet another example of how the radical left and the Democrats just don't understand how regular Americans view things.
	But the real problem, I think, could be if these various states reach a result in some of these 14th Amendment proceedings and then take measures to prevent President Trump from actually being on the ballot in
	If he hasn't yet gone to the Supreme Court fast enough to make sure that the ballots have his name on them, you know, that's going to be a real issue because, look, lots of people will write in President Trump's name, but I think the last thing that Trump campaign or anybody wants to see is a ballot that doesn't have his name on it.
	That's just not that can't be a good thing for the campaign.
	So I think he's got to go right now to the US Supreme Court.
	You know, he's got some great lawyers around him.
	You know, they know what to do.
	But he's really got to get aggressive and get this thing ruled on because otherwise, you know, number one, he's going to be facing these proceedings all over the country.
	It's going to be a massive logistical exercise just to deal with them.
	And number two, if his name is not in the ballot, that's a problem for him.
	Absolutely.
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	We actually have another question from a legal student.
	If you could pull that back up.
	Kat Anders wants to know, thank you for your super chat Kat.
	John, are you hiring?
	I'm a legal assistant here looking for a new job.
	I presently work for a large public defense firm, in quotation marks they say, and all the lawyers I work with are very left-wing.
	Are you hiring?
	How do people sign up to apply to work with MCLU, John?
	So the answer is yes, yes, yes, and yes.
	As you know, Laura, look, you've been with me.
	We've been, you know, in combat essentially, you know, around the country.
	And you know how much work there is to be done on this front.
	It is a tsunami of work.
	There are dozens of January 6th cases.
	Yeah.
	And it's not just J6 cases, too.
	John doesn't just represent J6ers.
	He's representing me and my RICO case, and of course, you know, I've raised money to pay for my legal fees, but not everybody can afford it.
	He's representing J6ers, he's representing pilots who are suing because they were fired or they were reprimanded for not taking the vaccine.
	He has school board parents.
	Am I missing anything, John?
	You have missionaries, you have Christian Nationalists who were basically beaten up and jailed because they were preaching the gospel on the side of the highway.
	You have all types of civil liberty cases, First Amendment cases.
	It's not just J6ers.
	I think the J6 cases, in my opinion, are some of the most important cases because it's going to impact the, you know, the outcome of our election.
	But just talk about, you know, some of the other work that you do as well because people need to know that they can earmark their donations on a specific landing page if they wanted to go to J6, but when you donate to NCLU, you're donating to just fight for liberty in general.
	Yeah, look, we handle cases across the spectrum that relate to the constitutional rights of everyday Americans, whether it be on the plaintiff's side or the defense side.
	So, you know, obviously right now, because of what's happening with the January 6 cases, we just have a ton of those.
	And, you know, those have to be litigated and they have to be, you know, handled and these folks get a good defense.
	You know, obviously your case with respect to the First Amendment and, you know, civil RICO and big tech tyranny, you know, the FISA abuse case with Carter Page.
	We look forward to having it come back down to trial.
	There are right to life cases that we've been involved in.
	self-defense cases for sure, vaccine mandate cases.
	So really everything, you know, election integrity, really everything that's happening in the country right now, and this has been the case for the last several years, everything that's happening in this fight to save the country, we have been front and center in, and we need all the help we can get.
	We need more lawyers.
	We need more, you know, paralegals.
	We need investigators, legal assistants.
	We need everything.
	So if folks can, you know, a couple ways folks can get in touch, they can go to the NCLU website, and there's a way to email.
	Yeah, people are donating.
	Christine in Texas in the chat.
	Thank you so much, Christine, for watching.
	Christine in Texas says, just donated.
	So people are donating right now while watching.
	Again, the website, John, before we got a caller, by the way, we're going to take a live phone call right now.
	One last time so people can get the website before we take this call with you on the line.
	I want you to stay with us.
	Oh, absolutely.
	All the time that you need from me here.
	What's the website?
	NCLU.org.
	NCLU.org.
	We need all the help we can get.
	This is a way that people who donate, and I'm not exaggerating, this is going to put roof over the heads of lawyers and staff and defendants when they come to D.C.
	This is going to pay directly for their court costs, their legal fees.
	There is no better way that folks can directly contribute to what's going on in the country right now aside from Donating to President Trump, donating to, you know, Laura Loomer, and donating to the NCLU.
	Okay, John, we have a caller.
	We have a live caller right now from Templar TV.
	Templar, can you hear us?
	I can, Laura.
	John, can you hear Templar?
	Yes, no problem.
	Got it.
	Okay, Templer, I understand you have a question, and your question is, what about the pending J6 tapes being released and the fallout from that?
	Do you have anything else you want to ask?
	Yeah, I do.
	I kind of want to know what he expects as far as, like, people's reactions from the information and what type of information he expects that will be uncovered by the tape.
	And that's, thank you.
	And then you also wanted to know, you also wanted to know about why the J6 tapes haven't been released?
	Correct.
	Great.
	Yeah.
	So that's, so look, great.
	Great question.
	And Laura, you probably you know how strongly I feel about this.
	And you know how I feel about the GOP establishment, especially in the House of Representatives.
	This has been a disaster.
	With respect to the failure of the GOP establishment and the House of Representatives to release these tapes.
	They have not released the tapes.
	They have lied repeatedly about releasing the tapes.
	The tapes have still not been released.
	And candidly, I'm not optimistic that the tapes will be released anytime soon.
	I hope that the new Speaker releases them.
	I don't see any indication.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait, John, you mean to tell me that, uh, you mean to tell me, John, that Marjorie Trader Greene and her boyfriend Kevin McCarthy didn't release the tapes?
	Breaking news!
	They didn't release the tapes?
	Are you serious?
	Yeah, surprise, surprise.
	They most certainly did not release the tapes and, you know, you've called those folks out very effectively and very specifically.
	You mean Matt Gaetz lied when he said that he and Marjorie Trader Greene were going to release the tapes?
	And you mean that the new so-called MAGA Mike Johnson, our new Speaker of the House that wants to give all of our money to Ukraine and Israel, you mean MAGA Mike hasn't released the J6 tapes?
	They have not released the J6 tapes, and I do not believe any of them will lift a finger to actually release the January 6 tapes.
	Look, the House of Representatives has the plenary power of the purse under the United States Constitution.
	They could, tomorrow, Tomorrow they could end all of the January 6th prosecutions.
	They could stop the witch hunt against President Trump.
	They could release all the January 6th tapes.
	There's a reason that the founders set up the Constitution like this.
	They set it up specifically for this kind of moment whenever the federal government was running roughshod over individual liberty.
	And tyranny was spreading across the land because the one way that you can absolutely shut that down is with the power of the purse.
	They refuse to do it.
	They're not going to do it.
	And it's really disgraceful.
	I think that, honestly, the current, you know, crew of GOP representatives in Congress is not going to go down very well in history when folks look back on the things that they could have done to actually make a difference and failed to do.
	Yeah, I agree, and I think it's really concerning.
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	Do we have any more callers?
	Still waiting?
	Well, let's take a couple more questions from the chat.
	We got some more people saying that they're donating.
	Let's see.
	Someone said there's a report that the tapes are going to the blaze.
	Yeah, no one's getting the tapes.
	No one's getting the tapes because if you saw my exclusive reporting a couple months ago, the reason why they don't want to release the tapes is because known Ukrainian spy operatives, okay, especially a guy named Sergei Dabinin, who, you know, is tied to the Zelensky regime in Ukraine, they penetrated the United States Capitol on J6.
	And J6 prisoners, including Jacob Chansley, who was known as the QN and shaman, were interrogated about these Ukrainian spy operatives, okay, who penetrated the Capitol.
	And so they don't want the American people knowing that Ukraine committed an act of war against the United States of America by sending spies, okay, sending spies to carry out color revolution operations on U.S.
	soil at the United States Capitol the day that the election was unfortunately being certified, the stolen election was being certified, Because then everybody would be wondering, oh my god, why on earth are members of Congress giving 250 billion dollars of our taxpayer money to spy operatives in a country that committed an act of war against our nation?
	That's why the tapes are never gonna come out.
	Yeah, that's exactly right.
	You know, the establishment, you know, does not want to have these tapes come out.
	It's gonna, you know, it's gonna screw up their whole operation with respect to the military industrial complex and how much money they make off of sending, you know, people to war all over the country.
	So it's really disappointing, the failure of the GOP to release these tapes.
	I think that the key thing that people need to understand is that They need to be fully released to the public so that millions and millions of Americans can be crowdsourcing the review of the tapes.
	You know, there is so much videotape here that no one person, no small team, can meaningfully review this information themselves.
	So it needs to be crowdsourced.
	And also, the American people own this tape.
	They own the U.S.
	Capitol Building, and they're entitled to know what happened.
	On January 6th, January 5th, January 7th, they're entitled to know.
	So, um, you know, this is no brainer.
	So apparently there is a tweet I just saw that said, breaking, I'm pleased to announce the approval process for The Blaze to release the J6 Capital TCTV videos and images is back under track under Speaker Johnson's sanction.
	I will post images and an official statement here on X later today or first thing tomorrow.
	Stay tuned.
	And that is from a guy by the name of Steve Baker, who's a contributor to The Blaze, who follows me.
	What I want to know is, why would they all of a sudden release this to The Blaze?
	Like, I'm not trying to put shade on Glenn Becker, The Blaze, but like, what's so special about The Blaze?
	Why wouldn't they release them to Tucker?
	We were told that they were going to release the tapes to Tucker Carlson.
	They never released the tapes to Tucker Carlson.
	Tucker Carlson had to watch the tapes on a terminal inside the United States Capitol, and then Marjorie Taylor Greene and McCarthy were able to fundraise off of gaslighting the American people, okay?
	They are not going to release these tapes, and they have already said they're not going to release these tapes because it poses a, oh, a national security risk because, uh, Yeah, they don't want you knowing.
	You have to read my reports to see this.
	You had Ukrainian spy operatives.
	You know the kind of chaos that would ensue in this country if Americans found out that Ukrainian spies were carrying out a color revolution at the United States Capitol in conjunction with the CIA?
	And the FBI, okay, to stage the setup to rig the election in 2024, they did this.
	They did this on purpose because they needed a catalyst to file their phony litigation and to accuse President Trump of an insurrection so that they could keep him out.
	Because they knew that after stealing the election and putting their little Alzheimer's patient in, who's ruined our country, who's burned our country to the ground, With Soros, whose head is in the crocodile tonight, the alligator mouth, in case you haven't noticed, okay?
	Soros is in the swamp creature's mouth, because he is the ultimate swamp monster.
	Who's controlling this?
	That's what I want to know is who is controlling this?
	Who is leading this gaslighting charge against the American people?
	Why is it that there is no accountability?
	Why is it that we were told that Tucker Carlson was going to get the tapes?
	And how has anything changed?
	How has anything changed and what are you hearing as a lawyer?
	Because last time I checked, John, you represent all the J6ers and not even you as their lawyers have access to all of the J6 footage.
	So somebody's lying here.
	Are they going to gradually release this footage?
	Are they going to segment it out?
	Are we just going to see explosive pieces so that people can feel like they've been appeased so that we can have a few viral moments on TV like we would Tucker Carlson and then, oh, they're going to fire him shortly after so we get nothing else?
	Yeah, look, I mean, you know, the Uniparty controls this, kind of whoever that is ultimately at the top of the chain.
	But yeah, clearly what they're doing is, you know, they try to push this issue off by, you know, every few months sort of announcing that they're going to release something to someone.
	And then pretending like that's actually releasing the tapes.
	I know Steve.
	I think Steve's a good guy.
	I'm glad that somebody's gonna get some more access.
	That's a good thing.
	But it is nowhere near what has to be done.
	It is not what was committed by the GOP.
	And you know, and keep in mind, Lauren, I think you're aware of this.
	In our last... We're in a January 6th felony trial right now.
	In our last one in September, we subpoenaed Kevin McCarthy, Matt Gaetz, Marjorie Taylor Greene and Jim Jordan.
	Not only did they not voluntarily walk across the street to testify on behalf of a January 6th defendant, they sent three taxpayer-funded lawyers to fight a motion to quash the subpoena, which they were successful in.
	Right.
	And so, you know, there's lots of tweets, there's lots of lip service, there's lots of fundraising off of, you know, January 6th, but none of these, none of these congresspeople I don't care about January 6th.
	They can't even bother to walk across the street or send a staff member across the street to watch any of these trials.
	I mean, we've had the most trials of any set of lawyers.
	I've never seen one congressperson or one congressional staff person in a courtroom.
	It's sickening.
	Exactly.
	And I've been to the trials.
	I sat there.
	I sat in the Proud Boys trial.
	I watched my friends, okay?
	People who I have been friends with for years.
	People that I used to work with are now going to jail for 20 years, okay?
	Their kids are never going to have a father in their life because they have been torn apart by our crooked government.
	People I know that I've been friends with for years.
	And I didn't see any members of Congress there.
	I know people who, you know, I know Jerry Perna, whose nephew Matthew Perna killed himself because he couldn't take the stress of what was being done to him.
	I know Chris Worrell's fiance.
	I know the stories of these people and the fact that nobody in Congress has reached out to them, okay?
	I know Ashley Babbitt's mother.
	I had dinner with Ashley Babbitt's mother in Florida a couple months ago.
	And you know what she told me?
	Okay, all of these members of Congress are full of shit.
	Every single one of them.
	Matt Gaetz, Marjorie Taylor Greene, all of them.
	They all just want to use them and their tragedy and the assassination of Ashley Babbitt and the struggles of these patriots, okay, who all deserve to be pardoned, in my opinion.
	And will be under President Donald Trump when he's re-elected again to fundraise, to fundraise and to gaslight people.
	So I'll believe it when I see it.
	I will believe it when we see an open source portal, okay?
	An open source portal for everybody to go through this.
	Because I'll tell you right now, 44,000 hours of footage on probably 1,000 cameras inside our nation's capital.
	It's gonna take years.
	It would take one person over five years to go through all of that footage, John.
	You and I know this because we calculated it ourselves when we were in D.C.
	together for these trials, okay?
	It needs to be open source if they want people to see this footage.
	Yeah, I think one thing that folks need to realize, and nobody's led to charge in saying this as much as you have, is that nobody in the political class is going to save America.
	It is a fool's errand to think that any of these Congress people, any senators, any governors, Absolutely.
	are going to save America.
	The cavalry is not coming.
	Donald Trump, Donald Trump is the one that's going to get back in the White House and he's going to be a huge part of saving America.
	But, you know, really what it's going to take is it's going to take regular Americans who finally wake up in enough numbers and unite with each other and stand up and say, you know, no more and take their country back in a legal way, in a peaceful way.
	But that's what it's going to take.
	There are no career politicians that are going to save this country.
	It's It's just not going to happen.
	We have a super chat from TMFS158.
	Thank you so much for your $10 contribution.
	They say, John Pierce is a hero.
	Laura, you look fab at the premiere.
	I guess they're talking about the premiere for Police State.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	I had Rob Smith, who was a dissimp online, attacking me, you know, over my appearance earlier today.
	There's some photos.
	There's me with Rumble CEO Chris Pavlosky.
	Great photo.
	We look really good there.
	There's me with Roger Stone.
	Here's some photos from the premiere.
	There's me with General Flynn.
	Really nice photos.
	Thank you.
	You're doing it great.
	And so is Carrie Lake.
	There's Carrie Lake, who's a badass, who I endorse for Senate.
	Love her.
	And there's me with the spokesperson for President Trump's super PAC, Caroline Leavitt.
	Really nice girl.
	There's me with the Dilly Meme team.
	Woo!
	We love the Dilly Meme team.
	We've absolutely destroyed Ron DeSantis.
	So let's see.
	Anything else?
	I had a really great time at the premiere.
	It was really awesome.
	I have a lot more photos, too, but those are just a few of the photos that I posted and that I took the other night.
	But thank you for the nice compliment.
	I had a great crew.
	I went with my team.
	What can we do, they say, about the comments section?
	Look, uh, we can't control every single person.
	It's live, you know, so this is live production.
	And, uh, unfortunately, we can't control every single troll in the comments section.
	But, um, but thank you.
	Uh, Loshlaw sent $2.
	It's a story Steve Baker has been working on for a long time.
	He had to go there and piece it all together.
	He's proven that law officers lied in the Oath Keepers trials.
	Oh, yeah, no, I know.
	I know, Steve.
	I'm not saying that his reporting isn't good.
	I think he does great work.
	What I'm saying is that We were already fed this lie.
	I'm not saying Steve's a liar.
	What I'm saying is that we were told by members of Congress that Tucker Carlson... Tucker Carlson is much more popular than the Blaze, let's just be honest, okay?
	The guy had the highest ratings show on primetime cable network news and...
	Even Tucker Carlson said, oh, we're going to release the tapes, right?
	We never, they never released the tapes.
	And so if the Blaze wants us to take them seriously, then they need to commit to making all tapes public.
	Okay?
	Not behind a paywall so that they can monetize it and make a ton of money.
	No, every single piece of footage that they get needs to be in an open source platform so that everybody can review it and other people can start You know, piecing this footage together.
	Thank you, Pray for Sanity.
	They say they're now a monthly supporter.
	I appreciate that.
	Laura, you are the best.
	Looking good, Laura.
	Thank you.
	Love Rumble, you are with the right group.
	Loomer Meme Team is the best.
	Yes, we are.
	Let's see.
	Tucker's a good dude.
	Thank you, Laura.
	Everyone looked beautiful.
	Yeah, I thought we looked good.
	We clean up nicely.
	I'm a monthly Loomer supporter.
	Yes, thank you so much to all my supporters.
	Someone said the Blaze is a paid subscription platform now.
	So again, is this a grift?
	Is the Blaze just trying to grift off of the J6 tapes?
	Is the Blaze going to make it public?
	Or are we going to have to buy a subscription to the Blaze if we want to get access to the J6 footage?
	I'm not accusing The Blaze of doing this.
	I'm not going to accuse them of doing it until we get more information.
	But who's controlling this?
	And what is the ethics behind members of Congress releasing tapes to a network that is a paid subscription model?
	My content is free.
	You don't have to pay to see this show.
	You don't have to pay to read my articles.
	I'm an independent journalist, so you can obviously support my work on my website or by making a donation on loomer.locals.com or by doing Super Chats here on Rumble.
	So, my content is not paywalled.
	You get it for free regardless of whether you subscribe or not.
	I just function off of the support of independent contributions because I don't work for the media network.
	That's why I'm allowed to talk the way I talk because I would be fired like this if Fox News, you know, ever brought me on and I spoke the way I spoke.
	I'm on the Fox News blacklist.
	I'm on the Newsmax blacklist, okay?
	I'm pretty much on every conservative media blacklist.
	That's why you don't see me anywhere.
	And so, It's really important that you support independent journalism.
	But I want to know, how is a subscription-based model going to release this footage?
	Because that's not really ethical, in my opinion.
	I don't know, maybe the Blaze needs to come out and issue more of a clarification.
	Someone said, Laura, are you using the beauty products?
	Your skin looks amazing!
	Thank you!
	Yes, I have been using a lot of different products, especially GenuCell.
	GenuCell is one of the sponsors as well, and you can go to GenuCell.com slash Loomer.
	They have a lot of False sales right now, and so, you know, with the holidays coming up, I'm always on media, so I have to make sure that I always have a clear complexion, and I pulled an all-nighter last night.
	I did not sleep.
	I was up all night long, and when I do sleep, it's like for two hours, and then I get up and try to do a little bit of work, and so I really like this eye cream that they sent me.
	It helps me with the puffiness under my eyes, so you go to genuicell.com, and you can get skincare products and use code LUMER for extra savings.
	I really like it.
	Okay, so I don't know if we have any more callers, John, but last word, we have a text from Denise from Oregon.
	Let's read this text.
	All of us here in Oregon really appreciate Laura Lehman and how she fights for President Trump.
	Oh, that's so sweet.
	Thank you.
	We, oh, go back.
	We appreciate her and we know that she has been through the ringer.
	Thank you for doing this show.
	Thank you so much, Denise.
	That's really sweet of you to say.
	I really appreciate that.
	You know, it happened through the ringer, but President Trump is being put through the ringer, too, and so if he can do it in his late 70s, then I can do it, and that's why I fight, because I relate to President Trump, and I believe that he's the only man that can really save our country, and so we're going to keep on fighting, even though it definitely does take its toll at times.
	Hunter Voss said it's way important to the public interest to not release these tapes.
	Anyone who has them has a duty to release them.
	Yeah, to release them, but publicly.
	So John, any comments on that?
	Any insights you may have?
	Because you are in the trial.
	I know that you have access to some stuff, not everything, but what are you hearing?
	Because you're always there and I know that you're directly involved in this.
	I kind of have a little bit with respect to the tapes you're asking.
	Yeah, the tapes and what you've heard about this supposed or alleged deal with the Blaze to release these tapes.
	It seems kind of strange to me that the federal government would release the tapes to a right-wing media network.
	Not that there's anything wrong with that, but isn't the more appropriate thing to do to release it, create some kind of government open source platform in which it's released to everybody without ideological partisan alignment, without paywall subscription, without having your data harvested for the sake of a conservative without having your data harvested for the sake of a conservative network, monetizing off of your genuine curiosity out of a foreign event that is going to impact the presidential What are your thoughts on this?
	Because I personally don't like the idea of any of the footage being released to media networks.
	I think that the footage needs to be released to the public through open source portal.
	Yeah, it seems very strange to me, to be honest.
	You know, we've been in trial for the last several days, so I just saw this on Twitter essentially over the last day or two.
	I don't understand, you know, why they're doing it that way.
	You know, it's... this needs to be on a government... look, the U.S.
	Congress needs to put this on a website with a server that's easily searchable so that anybody can look at it.
	Um, you know, if there's nothing to hide, um, then, you know, these tapes need to be out there.
	It needs to be all the, all the footage, uh, available for anybody to review.
	Uh, and that way, you know, you can have, again, tens of millions, hundreds of millions of people that are reviewing this, crowdsourcing it, uh, kind of coordinating in what they see.
	And I think, you know, extremely quickly upon that happening, Everybody will have a complete picture of what actually happened on January 6th.
	And, you know, that's what the American people deserve and, you know, I think they want that.
	Absolutely, John.
	Well, you know, John, it's been a really great pleasure and a treat to have you on, especially today of all days, the fifth day, the last day of the witness testimonies and the trial in Colorado.
	We know now from a statement released today that the closing arguments are going to be made in Colorado on November 15th.
	And so, any last comments, any last words?
	I really appreciate you spending so much time to give your legal insight and your legal expertise.
	Someone said, Laura, please invite Speaker Mike Johnson live on your show next week.
	Yeah, we would have to make that one pay-per-view.
	Just kidding.
	Like I said, all my content is free, but that would be a spectacle, right?
	Look, anybody can come on my show, but understand that you're going to enter the Thunderdome, and you're going to be asked questions that The softies in the establishment media are not going to ask you.
	So if you want to come to the Lumer Thunderdome, you're more than welcome.
	I would love to interview Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, but I'm going to be coming with my receipts in hand, asking a lot of questions.
	So John, any last comments about that, what you expect to see happen as we just tie this up in these next 12 days, when the judges expect that you make her ruling?
	Yeah, this judge is going to find against President Trump, you know, they're going to try to kick him off the ballot.
	President Trump and his legal team need to be very aggressive.
	They need to take this to the Supreme Court as soon as humanly possible.
	I'm very confident that the Supreme Court will find that the 14th Amendment is not an appropriate tool here to kick him off the ballot.
	Look, right now we need pure America first fighters.
	We don't need career politicians.
	We need people like Donald J. Trump.
	We need people like Carrie Lake in the Senate.
	We need people like, you know, Laura Loomer doing what she does best every day.
	And the American people have to take this country back, but it's not going to be by the political class is not going to save this country.
	The political class is what's destroying this country.
	And the American people, you know, need to need to rise up and they need to take their country back.
	Yeah, and lastly, I want to get your insight on this too.
	As a J6 lawyer who has over three dozen J6 clients, am I correct in my hesitation in believing Mike Johnson and the House GOP Republicans?
	I mean, I think that they're just trying to set this guy up to look like a hero because he blundered because he's such an amateur, okay?
	His first day on the job, he said that he was going to send more money to Ukraine.
	That is literally why we had a motion to vacate Kevin McCarthy, okay?
	So, do you think that Mike Johnson is full of shit?
	Do you really honestly think that he's going to release the tapes?
	Or do you think that this is just being said and done to help this guy kind of, you know, like to provide... They're using J6 and the J6 tapes as like a human shield, the way they did for Kevin McCarthy and Marjorie Trader Greene back in January of this year, to shield Mike Johnson from his massive blunder about The compromise on the border package by giving more money to Israel, giving more money to Ukraine, not putting Americans first, hiring DeSantis donors, all of these big screw-ups that this amateur did his first week on the job.
	What are your thoughts?
	Because I don't think that Mike Johnson's a hero and I'm willing to bet my right hand, this is my left hand, I'm willing to bet my right hand, maybe even both if we're lucky, okay?
	Who knows, maybe I won't even have to bet.
	With the invasion that's happening in our country, we're soon to have Sharia, and I'm sure both my hands will be chopped up sooner rather than later.
	But I'm willing to bet that Mike Johnson doesn't release this.
	And it's funny that, you know, Mike Johnson as an evangelical chose the blaze, if this is the network that's actually going to release it, because one of the things that he's being criticized for is... And look, I, you know, I think it's important.
	I think it's important for people to put faith in the forefront of their community and their life and their family.
	But one of the things that they're attacking him on, and I find to be problematic, is that You know, President Trump is smart enough to understand that the topic of abortion is a losing issue in the sense that Roe v. Wade was already overturned.
	It's a trap question to try to trigger Zoomer voters and millennials and women into voting for Democrats by saying, oh, they're going to ban your right to have an abortion on a federal level.
	It's now a state's issue.
	And they have this guy who's, you know, using evangelical messaging in an election year And I don't really think that that messaging on issues as it relates to Ukraine, issues as it relates to abortion, are in alignment with President Donald Trump's positions as the leader of the party.
	And so I'm very concerned about how Mike Johnson is allowing for his naiveness, his amateur, I just have this hunch about Mike Johnson and I don't think he's an ally to the J6ers.
	efforts of President Trump and the MAGA America First Base that is making inroads with some of these other groups and voting blocs in society that are now starting to realize, okay, I may not like Trump as a person, but I'm going to vote for him because it's better.
	I just have this hunch about Mike Johnson, and I don't think he's an ally to the J6ers.
	What do you think?
	So, you know, I don't know a lot about Mike Johnson.
	I, I'm not optimistic, similar to what you just said, that he's going to do much to help the January 6th defendants.
	Look, there are three things he can do on Monday to make clear that he's going to do what he needs to do for the January 6th defendants.
	He can immediately announce that he's defunding the FBI and the Department of Justice with respect to these political prosecutions.
	He can immediately announce that all of the tapes, all the footage from January 6th are going to be put on a government server, you know, just the very moment that it can be loaded up, which shouldn't take a matter more than a couple days.
	And he has an open invite to walk across the street and show up in court to show support.
	For Derek Gunby, the January 6th defendant that we're defending right now.
	U.S.
	Army veteran with years of combat service in Afghanistan.
	And he's welcome to show up in court on Monday in our trial before Judge Friedman.
	So we're looking forward to seeing him.
	Absolutely.
	And we'll see if they do that, right?
	It just seems like a lot of empty promises.
	No statement from Mike Johnson about what's happening to President Trump this week.
	Really, really nothing but buzzwords and empty promises.
	And so, you're right.
	If they really do want to prove to people that they are committed to these people and releasing the tapes, then they probably should show up.
	John, I really want to thank you so much.
	You gave us so much of your time.
	I know you're extremely busy.
	One last time, where can people go to follow you, follow NCLU, and donate to your efforts in fighting weaponized government and fighting to release the J6 political prisoners?
	Thank you so much for having me on, Laura.
	It's a great pleasure.
	And yeah, go to nclu.org, www.nclu.org, and join as a monthly member or you can make a donation.
	As much as you can manage, it's a huge help to these January 6th defendants and to all these other cases that we have.
	So that's the most important thing that folks can do.
	If a good portion of the folks who are watching this right now become members of the NCLU, and I'm not exaggerating, they can help take care of multiple January 6th defendants with respect to their costs of defense.
	Well, thank you so much, John.
	I really appreciate you coming on tonight, and we wish you the best of luck in your continued efforts to free these J6ers.
	It's a righteous cause, and I really appreciate you coming on the show tonight.
	Thank you so much, Laura.
	I really appreciate it and look forward to seeing you again soon.
	Thank you, John.
	Well, there you have it.
	Attorney extraordinaire John Pierce, founder of NCLU.
	Really brilliant guy, and I hope that all of you enjoyed that interview and were able to learn something about the way that Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is being weaponized and taken out of context, and the way that it doesn't even apply to candidates for president.
	We have a couple last questions.
	Superchat, thank you so much to GOP Congress.
	That's your That's your... your username.
	Although, I highly doubt the real GOP Congress would ever be financially supporting me.
	Can you ask the Rumble CEO if he can publicly declare that he will provide a platform specifically to hosting all Raw J6 tapes, including providing crowdsourcing for indexing?
	Yeah!
	I'm gonna see him tomorrow.
	I'm gonna be there tomorrow at the Florida Summit in Kissimmee.
	I'm waking up early and so it's pretty late here now.
	It's almost 11 o'clock and gotta get ready because I gotta get up at 5 and get on the road tomorrow at 7 a.m.
	because I will be reporting live from the Florida Freedom Summit in Kissimmee where all the presidential candidates are expected to be giving speeches.
	President Trump will be there and it's gonna be really interesting because it's gonna be the first time really aside from Last week at the RJC Summit in Las Vegas, that Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump are in the same venue together, but this time it's going to be even more interesting because they're both Floridians.
	DeSantis is a Floridian, obviously the governor of Florida, and Donald Trump is a Floridian, his residence is at Mar-a-Lago.
	Really interesting because Donald Trump is currently leading Ron DeSantis by over 40 points in the polls, which is so embarrassing to Ron DeSantis, and so I would say I wonder if Ron DeSantis is going to get booed tomorrow, but I already know the answer because I'm going to be booing and I just hope that everybody will be joining in.
	So be sure that you have me on notification because I will be posting updates and, you know, Florida, Florida's Trump country, so...
	I don't know what's going to happen tomorrow.
	There's probably going to be some peaceful, rowdy, civil disobedience by the MAGA country crowd in Florida resisting, or at least rejecting, the message of the rhinos who are coming to Florida to make their case.
	Everybody's peaceful, but I will be there to document it.
	And so, with that, I want to thank you all so much for tuning in.
	Thank you so much to everybody who called in tonight.
	I really appreciate your calls and your insight.
	As you know, I started this show, Loomer Unleashed, not just to help give a voice to the truth, the real news in America, but also to give a voice to you, the American people, or whoever's watching from around the world, and to also be a voice for President Trump, who is having his voice silenced, and he's being persecuted while he's running to try to save our country.
	And so, again, this show generally airs every single Tuesday and Thursday at 8 p.m.
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	And so, I hope you enjoy my reporting from the Florida Freedom Summit this weekend, and I will see you next Tuesday for Episode 7 of Loomer Unleashed.
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