Hector clashes with a guest over undocumented immigrants, citing $400B annual taxpayer costs for healthcare and schooling while dismissing crime claims like "Molly Tibbett" as fabricated. The guest counters with Medicaid’s non-citizen access rules and argues for due process, including constitutional protections in deportation hearings. Hector demands personal housing as proof of support, but the guest insists on nuanced dialogue over polarization, critiquing left-wing violence while acknowledging shared interests like makeup. Their debate reveals deep divides in border control ethics, yet ends with mutual respect despite stark policy disagreements. [Automatically generated summary]
Why haven't you learned our language if you love us so much?
If you want us all here, why haven't you learned how to spoke was Spanish?
Unfortunately, I've forgotten it.
I forgot how to drive.
It's a game to you.
Okay.
It's terrible.
Have a good day.
Not you.
Oh, my God.
Wait, wait, no, please, sir.
Don't leave after saying that.
How am I going to go to sleep tonight?
So, no, they're not going home with you?
No, I don't think so.
But they should be able to stay in the country somewhere else.
Yeah.
Just not with you.
Yeah.
We're asking people if they're sick and tired of the way ICE is treating our non-citizens in the country.
So you don't want to hear myself.
You may have to walk away, but where is this going?
It's just my YouTube channel.
Okay.
Not happy.
Disgusting.
Disgusting.
People are people.
Supposed to be we the people.
Yeah.
Including non-citizens, including everybody who has come to the U.S.
Now, look be treated better.
Thank you.
Yeah.
So ICE is not the police.
Right.
They should be, if they're supposed to be at the border, be at the border.
Yeah.
I should be at the border and they have no legal clarification for law enforcement.
When we start arresting and throwing women and children down on the ground, okay?
Something is radically wrong.
It's not the way I grew up.
Okay.
So my great-grandparents are from the Ukraine.
Okay.
So we have a melting pot of people here in our country.
That's what makes our country beautiful and great.
Okay.
It doesn't make it beautiful and great when it's all white, old men, women, white hair deciding.
Like white, no, white bad.
I don't want to live in a dictatorship, and that's where we're headed, people.
Especially not white people.
Wake up, stop abusing American citizens, people that are here legally, people that have not committed crimes.
I'm on your show.
I'm conservative.
If anything, we should call the cops and get him out of here.
What are you doing?
Is he real?
Is it real?
He's not really illegal.
They're part of a.
If you look up Liberty Hangout.
Yeah, yeah, she's seen me before.
Yeah, I love her.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, what's my agenda?
You want to tell me what your agenda is?
Oh, yeah, I'm pro-ICE.
I'm pro-deportation, especially mass deportation of every single.
You're a legal immigrant right here?
Yeah.
What are you doing about it?
I'm trying to find white liberal.
Well, it doesn't have to be white, but any liberal who is anti-ICE to take them home.
Boys.
Fantastic.
Yeah.
What are their crimes?
Oh, well, we don't know because they're not vetted.
They're not vetted.
It's Miss Kaylin and Jeffrey Epstein.
Jeffrey Epstein.
From the news, Jeffrey Editing.
You're calling me Jeffrey Epstein.
Is that what you do?
Dude, you look like Jeffrey Epstein.
That's what you do?
Is accuse people of being Jeffrey Epstein?
No, you just do look like.
You feel good about that?
No, similarities.
I'm just kidding.
I didn't do anything.
Why are you looking at me?
I didn't say that.
This whole thing is you, right?
No, I'm actually mean.
These are two.
Oh, you accused me of having to pay them to do this?
No, no, no.
I said hired.
Yeah.
So anyway.
Does that mean pain?
I think, yeah, it does.
No, not always.
think that these people should be able to go home with perhaps you who is the opposite of my agenda obviously you have the opposite agendas Okay, so we're pro-deportation.
You and me?
Of whom?
Illegal aliens.
Everyone?
Yes.
Everyone that's here illegally?
Yes.
Okay.
Melania, that would be one.
Is she illegal?
She was.
Is she still illegal?
There are plenty of people that are being deported that may have gotten here illegally, but are now allowed to be here.
They're being deported.
Do we send Melania and her type home too?
What's her type?
People that are here illegally.
Yeah.
Okay.
We can deport Melania.
Yeah, we could deport her too.
Are you okay?
Civil infractions deserve to be deported as well.
Due Process Disputes00:05:00
Yes, if you come into the country.
So do you know what the due process is?
Do you know what the due process is?
Sure.
Tell me what it is.
Why don't you tell me first?
You tell me.
Please, you tell me.
You don't know what it is, do you?
Do I know what due process is?
Do you know what the due process is for someone who.
What do you mean the due process?
Okay, if you would let me finish a sentence, you could actually respond to a full question, okay?
So when someone comes across illegally, tell me the due process they undergo.
They are allowed to have a hearing and have rights.
No, they don't have.
That's in the Constitution.
Okay.
So what type of hearing?
I don't know the exact term for it.
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But they can't just get picked up and deported to Angola.
Right.
So what kind of process is it?
What's the process?
They are allowed.
I'm not 100% sure.
A court hearing, a defense, they get to have evidence heard.
Do you not believe in that?
I want to know the process.
What happens?
Hold on.
Yeah.
Do you think that these illegal people deserve any representation at all?
No.
None.
No, they don't get any.
Do you think the Constitution allows them that?
No, because they get charged civilly.
They get administratively.
They don't get charged with criminal offenses, even though they committed one by coming across the border illegally.
So there's two different ways that we can process an illegal non-civil crime by doing that.
So here's what it is.
When you cross the border illegally, and I'll give you like maybe five minutes to get this.
Five minutes.
Okay.
So when they come across, when they came across the border illegally, when they civil violation.
Well, we process it civilly, right?
It could be criminally.
It's a misdemeanor.
It's a federal misdemeanor.
Yes, exactly.
And we could charge them with a crime and we could put them through the process of a criminal prosecution.
Crime.
We could charge them with a criminal prosecution, okay, in a criminal trial.
However, we don't.
Your impulse is telling you to interrupt, but don't do that, okay?
But instead, what we do is we actually process it.
You are.
Thank you for doing that.
And so we process it civilly.
We process it civilly.
Yes.
So that we don't uphold the courts and the trials and everything.
They take a longer time.
You will not listen.
Overburden in the system.
You will not listen.
20 years ago.
You will not listen.
Civilly.
So what is that process?
Why is that important to you?
Because You're telling me they're not getting it.
What is the due process for someone who is being deported on a first offense of a misdemeanor, who is being ran through the system under administrative way of leaving?
Okay, you're using a lot of words, but anybody has the ability to have legal representation.
No, they don't.
Yes, they do.
It is a person, not a citizen, that deserves it.
They do not have, they do not have a right to a lawyer or a jury.
They do, you're saying it's civil versus criminal.
It doesn't matter.
It does matter.
In the Constitution, civil, any violation, every person gets due process.
I agree with you.
You're wrong about the type of due process they get when we deport them civilly and administratively.
Can you answer your own question?
Yes.
What is my question?
You want me to ask you your question?
Yes.
What is the due process that a civil violator is allowed to have?
Yep.
So they get picked up by ICE.
They go to a hearing with an immigration judge.
They either get, they're allowed to say that they're seeking asylum or something like that.
If they get denied that, if they're here illegally, if they committed other crimes, you're not even letting me answer you.
Illegally.
They are then ordered with removal.
And then ICE detains them and they deport them.
You don't get a judge.
Guys, Stop Being Disingenuous00:10:53
I'm sorry.
You don't get a free lawyer.
You don't get free representation.
You don't get a jury of your peers.
You don't get that because it's a civil and administrative process.
They're not given that.
They deserve that.
They don't.
They are owed that.
No, they're not.
Well, I think I don't know the exact percent.
The majority of the cases are on the side of the civil violators of the immigration law.
No, it's not.
But that's okay if you believe that.
Would you be willing to take them home with you?
What have they committed?
I don't know.
They're illegal.
They're unvetted.
Well, I would take an immigrant home with me.
Okay, there we go.
Undocumented, though.
I'll tell you my crime.
Sorry, it was attempted.
Attempted.
Attempted what?
Attempted.
Attempted what?
I don't know.
He's illegal.
This thing is a game.
I attempted to.
You're in a play.
You're setting these people down like it's a game.
Why don't you put your money where your mouth is?
Why don't you put your money where your mouth is?
It's his life.
Take him home with you.
You're playing with people's lives.
And you know what else is playing with people's lives?
Allowing illegal aliens unvetted into our country that has taken the lives of Molly Tibbett, of Rachel Mort, of Lake and Riley.
You're playing with people's lives when you lie about ICE and you support these policies.
You're an exaggerator of the problem.
Then take him home with you.
You take him home with you.
You take that person home with you.
Why won't you take him home with you?
I don't believe in them being here.
I believe that they deserve a hearing.
Or take them to their hearing.
You're just filling it.
You won't do it.
No, you're just such a character.
You won't do it.
You're a character.
You mean nothing.
Hector, do you have something to say?
I think this is a lack of respect.
And what I believe is that this guy doesn't like immigrants.
He doesn't want to support them.
Do you know Spanish?
Oh, my God, I don't speak Spanish.
Yeah, no, there are people that speak Spanish in this country.
You love immigrants.
Why don't you speak?
Why haven't you learned our language if you love us so much?
If you want us all here, why haven't you learned how communicate with us yet?
My first language I spoke was Spanish.
Unfortunately, I've forgotten it.
I lived in Caracas and I lived in Bogotá and I lived in Santo Domingo.
Probably for the women.
Do you feel okay?
Probably for the women in Nota Cultura.
Are you okay about that?
You're okay.
My parents were in the Peace Corps supporting people.
But you didn't learn Spanish?
I did learn Spanish and then I forgot it.
Are you going to take him home or not?
Why would I take anybody?
You forgot his address.
I forgot your address.
Shane, this is a game to you.
It's a game to you.
It's terrible.
Have a good day.
Not you.
I'm having a good day.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
I should be ashamed.
Oh, my God.
I should be ashamed.
Wait, wait, don't please, sir.
Don't leave after saying that.
How am I going to go to sleep tonight?
You will have shame, John.
Oh, my God.
Shame.
Oh, no.
What shame would someone have with face tattoos like?
If I look like that, that's what I'd be ashamed.
If I look like Jeffrey Epstein, you did good.
Keep the illegals.
Keep the illegals.
Pretending.
Like, what am I selling?
They're pretending that they're disingenuous.
You guys are being disingenuous.
Also.
Picking out these little stories that you think are gotcha moments.
Yeah.
That's not the whole picture, is it?
No, it's not.
Do you believe our non-citizens in this country deserve a place to stay here in the country?
I do.
Okay.
Well, great.
I'm a non-citizen.
Okay, great.
Oh, you're a non-citizen.
I was.
And then, do you know what I did?
I went through channels and I became a citizen, like a lot of people are trying to do.
Yeah.
But they're still getting taking.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, no, that's factual.
Yeah, they're allowed to, though.
They're allowed to.
Why?
Yeah, because you tell them to go through the proper channels.
If they go through the proper channels, they can't get through the proper channels.
No, that's the thing.
So they're victims, right?
They really need a lot of help.
Why don't you just look at him?
How disgusting is this?
He needs your help.
Why don't you take him home with you?
You guys are putting on a channel.
Take him home with you.
Why do I need to do that?
I'm supporting people.
I don't need to take him home.
Why not?
You think he should be in this country?
So it's only don't help him or take him home.
That's your only choice.
Yep.
Okay, you're full of shit.
How are you going to help him?
You expect the taxpayer to fund him, but you won't do it yourself.
You have to go to the house.
How is the taxpayer funding a homeless person?
Tell me he's an illegal alien.
How is a taxpayer funding that?
He identifies as an illegal alien, ma'am.
Answer the question.
How is our taxpayers funding this?
An illegal aliens?
Wow, answer the question.
You just keep saying the same thing over and over.
Okay, here's the thing: you don't even know the illegal aliens in this country cost the taxpayers.
You're literally the illegal aliens.
Okay, I'm talking, okay, listen right here.
Listening ears.
The illegal aliens in this country cost the taxpayer almost $400 billion a year for health care, our schooling.
And they don't get health care, woman.
Yes, they do.
They're paying into it.
That's not a truth.
Oh, my goodness.
You are making things up.
If I'm so stupid and hurt.
Why are they getting taxpayer money?
Because they apply for these programs, like in California, they specifically have a bill that allows them Medicaid and Medicare.
That's not true.
Okay.
Oh, my God.
Oh, you just make up shit.
Just like everybody.
Well, if I'm so wrong and stupid, why don't you show that you're smart and you're a good woman and you take these people home?
I can do other things besides take her.
Hector, if you're a pastor, dude.
That's racist.
Excuse you.
You get back here right now and speak to me.
I'll screw you.
Oh, really?
Oh, my goodness.
Oh, my goodness.
I have never looked at this.
Are you like literally shaking this racism?
I don't even know what to do.
I'm going to follow a report.
I don't know.
I'm offended.
Did you offend my son?
I'm offended.
What did she say to him?
I don't know what we're going to do.
I can't repeat it.
Honestly, I can't even repeat that racism.
I can't even.
I can't even either now.
I will pay for his flight to go to your home.
Why won't you take him to your home?
Because I don't believe in open borders and I don't believe illegal aliens should be here.
You don't?
No.
It was up to her.
She would deport us.
Well, since you guys say belong here, any of this is very unreasonable.
I think you should change your beliefs and help these people.
Well, why don't you help them?
I'm helping them by helping you change your mind.
I'm going to change your mind.
You think they should be in the country.
Don't think ICE should be detaining and deporting people, but you won't bring these people into your home.
Why not stating what I say?
You didn't ask me if I believe in border protection and I do border control okay, but if they're here for finding a better life, that's what this country's founded on.
Do you think it's hypocritical that you guys agreed with me that undocumented oh, let's call them what they are they're illegal aliens?
Your impulse is gonna tell you to don't interrupt, so you guys think it's okay?
Yeah, thank you.
I appreciate that you guys think it's okay.
You agreed with me that illegal aliens deserve a place to stay in this country, but when I asked them to come home with you, you all of a sudden wanted to put up your borders.
You didn't want them in your space.
Can I answer?
I think that when you ask someone to do something, like something that huge to invite someone into their home yeah um, they need a little time to process that.
You can't just on the street, ask someone, can you come to my home and stay with me?
Like there are a lot of steps that I have to take.
Like I need to speak to my partner about that.
I have to make sure that there's room and space for the person.
Like, asking me directly on the street without giving me time to process it and think about it is kind of difficult.
That's what we're saying about illegal aliens coming to the country.
They shouldn't be doing that and if they do it, they should be deported.
That's the thing.
Okay, I got you and I think that the the, if we're, if we're drawing equivalencies and meeting each other, like actually on the level and not with the I mean admittedly, you know theatrics the piece there is that there is, there are conversations within the government, there are regulations that need to take place.
It's not as simple as just saying we should take people in automatically without any actual processing.
You guys did agree to that.
I asked you if you agree that illegal aliens deserve a place to stay in this country and you said yes, that's a blanket statement, though I don't think that people who have done horrible, horrible things deserve to be given a place without justice being taken, you know, into consideration.
Um, but how do we know if they're coming illegally?
We have not vetted them, we don't know who they are.
How do we do that?
I think that that's that's also a very deep and important conversation to have.
But I also think that, coming onto the street and asking me, will you take this person home with you?
Like I feel like immediately, my gut instinct is to be like oh, I really want this person to have a place and I feel really sorry and bad that they don't have a place, like that's really unfortunate.
But at the same time, I think I need more time to think about that.
Consider it, because obviously you have a point too, like having people who are negatively affecting their communities and being terrible people.
Like I don't want that person in my home either.
Of course not.
That's all we're trying to point out today.
But but I also think that someone who is escaping something and needs to get away from something that's really dangerous and terrible for them and they're just really good people I try to imagine myself or my family in that situation and it makes me feel like I really want to help somebody who is in a situation that they're trying to get away from and they can't help but be, you know, in that situation.
So that's why they can apply for asylum.
Um, maybe you guys can think a little bit more about being so gung-ho about illegal aliens in the country, letting them stay how ice ICE is deporting them is wrong.
I'm going to walk over.
I'm going to find other people to house them after this.
But thank you for hearing me out.
I appreciate it.
Thank you for having the realization of like, oh, okay, I see what you're doing.
I understand the points you're making.
I appreciate that reflection from you guys.
Personally, if someone crosses into the country illegally, they should be deported immediately and they shouldn't be allowed back.
Okay.
And the thing that I think is most important right now is that even though we're on opposite ends of the spectrum, I think that we should be having these conversations because we have commonalities, you and I do, even if we don't have the same ideas about maybe that or in other political areas.
But like we both probably like putting on makeup and have a really like, we love doing stuff like that.
We have commonalities.
And I think that that's the thing that bothers me the most about what's going on right now is like we're polarizing so much that violence is happening all over the place.
It's mainly on the left wing that violence is happening for sure.
But again, like when we're having that conversation, coming to a commonality I think is more important than sort of stigmatizing each other because we have our beliefs and we're really strong about our beliefs.