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July 11, 2020 - Liberty Hangout - Kaitlin Bennett
13:02
Dems Want to Replace Monuments With Nicki Minaj Statues
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Should we get rid of Mount Rushmore now that I'm on the topic?
We should.
Yeah.
There's a Reverend.
He's African American.
He said, if you don't take it down, you're automatically a racist.
Right.
Do you agree with that?
Yeah.
I do as well.
100%.
You guys think statues can hurt people?
Well, I think they could just like really offend someone, especially with the history of what they hold.
So there are some options that they're thinking about replacing it with.
We've got Beyonce, T'Challa from Wakanda, Sean King, or very progressive icon, Nicki Minaj.
Do you guys think any of those would be more appropriate than what's there now?
I prefer Pachal because you go to it, you can just do a hip.
Like, yeah, Wakanda forever.
Nicki Minaj is done more for people than any slave owner.
We are here in St. Augustine, Florida world behind me.
You'll see we have a boarded up Confederate monument memorializing soldiers from the Civil War who were never properly buried.
The progressives in St. Augustine decided to remove it because statues hurt feelings.
We're gonna ask people today if we should replace the statue with people like Beyonce, Tichala from Wakanda, and other very cool people like Nicki Minaj.
Let's see who they choose.
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So there is a statue that is memorializing the soldiers from the Confederacy during the Civil War.
Yeah.
And they voted Monday to take it down because there's a Reverend.
He's African American.
He said if you don't take it down, you're automatically a racist.
Right.
Do you agree with that?
Yeah.
I do as well.
100%.
100%.
Okay.
Because think about what the statue represents.
Think about like what black bodies have to think about every time that they see the statue.
So St. Augustine officials have voted to remove the Confederate statue that's over there.
I don't know if you guys have ever seen it, but it's over there in the plaza.
They're gonna take it down uh because it's racist.
Do you agree with that?
I do believe that they should take down the Confederate statue because it's showing a past that we really shouldn't be proud of.
Okay.
We definitely should not be part of Confederacy.
It's just wrong.
Okay, yeah.
I agree with her stamina.
It is wrong to have Confederate anything because there are some people like this is my heritage, okay, but this also means that you're hurting other people whose family came from bad backgrounds and you're supporting this.
I think that there's no reason to have statues that signify hatred towards black people.
Okay.
So I can agree with that, yeah.
Okay, how does that statue do that?
Um, well it was made in a time, not like right after the Confederacy, but it's made years later to enforce Jim Crow laws and and and like inflict terror and fear.
The statue was?
Yes, a statue of of like generals that led a war.
But do you know what the statue actually is of?
You know, I'm not sure what this statue's of, but I'm so this statue is actually memorializing the soldiers who never had a proper burial.
Okay.
I know that Confederate soldiers did a lot of bad stuff, and I know a lot of people disagree with them.
So I feel like if it's hurting a lot of people, it should be removed.
Okay.
Yeah, I agree with that.
Yeah.
You guys think statues can hurt people?
Well, I think they could just like really offend someone, especially with the history of what they hold.
Do you think the people who are offended by its removal matters at all, or just the people who are offended by its being there?
I feel like they shouldn't really be offended by the removal because of the history it holds.
Do you think that that was the right decision?
Yeah.
Well, because of what's happening right now, we don't want uh symbols of past history that pretty much suppressed black black black Africans, African Americans in this country.
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What goes through your mind every time you see a Confederate statue since you're a black body?
Um just like a wave of like disrespect and discomfort.
Like I just feel like so many people get to walk down the street and be comfortable and see themselves everywhere, uh see their generations on like plaques and like statues of their great great-grandfathers.
I the only memorabilia I have is like pictures of my like people like being beaten and like shot at and like terrorized like being terrorized by these white bodies who are being mounted up on statues.
It is remembering soldiers and like all props to them and they like go and fight for whatever they believe in, but it represents the wrong thing in my opinion.
Like the Confederates secede from the United States.
They weren't fighting for their country, they were fighting for the only thing that was like abolishing slavery.
I don't know if destroying it or getting rid of it's like the best idea, but I mean if it makes the people happy then I mean just go with it, I guess.
The history behind it, you know, the Confederates weren't for America, they were for themselves and they were you know fighting to keep slavery, which isn't good, but you know, personally I don't think a statue hurts anybody, but I understand why they're tearing it down.
Like people don't want to remember slavery or the people who fought like to have it still.
Right, right, right.
Do you share those opinions?
Yeah, I agree.
Should we get rid of Mount Rushmore now that I'm on topic?
We should.
Yeah.
Who should we replace them with?
Four.
Four people.
I don't know.
Let's go with Harriet Tubman.
Um stupid.
Well, I have some options.
Tell me if these four people I list off is more appropriate to be in St. Augustine than Confederate soldiers.
Okay, here we go.
Beyonce.
Sure.
She's done more for people than any Confederate slave owner.
Amazing.
Okay.
Tachala from Wakanda.
Uh sure, he done more than any other slave owner.
You can say anyone, I'll tell you.
Nicki Minaj.
Nicki Minaj has done more for people than any slave owner.
No, what the f you said anybody.
Anybody who's not a against humans.
Alright, so there are some options that they're thinking about replacing it with.
We've got Beyonce, Tachala from Wakanda, Sean King, or very progressive icon, Nicki Minaj.
Do you guys think any of those would be more appropriate than what's there now?
I prefer Tachala because you go to you can just do hip.
Yeah, yeah.
Um, any of those is honestly better than the Confederacy, as long as it shows a pride and something that's better than Confederacy or anything as a matter of fact.
I'm fine with it.
Could we replace it with Jesus?
That's a little touchy subject right there, religion.
Um, is Jesus better than the Confederacy?
I would say yeah, she's definitely better than racists.
We have some options of who we're considering replacing it with.
We got Beyonce, T'Challa from Wakanda, Sean King, who said to tear down statues of Jesus, or Nicki Minaj.
Which one would be more appropriate than what's there now?
I think you're just making a joke of it.
Like I've seen your videos before.
I think you're just making a joke of it.
So you're a fan.
I'm not a fan.
Oh, but thank you for thank you for watching what it's saying.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So which one would be more appropriate, or do you think the Confederate monument is more appropriate than all of those?
I think none.
None of them?
None of them.
Do you have a favorite that you think should be placed here in St. Augustine?
I think uh Queen B would be pretty funny.
Beyonce, that'll be good.
Okay.
We got one vote for Beyoncé so far.
Alright.
What's wrong with Nicki Minaj?
Um, I like Beyonce more.
Yeah.
Okay.
She's a little more classy.
A little bit, right?
I think any object, any figure that just represents hate, um, division separation, any other option that promotes unity in coming together would be a much better um decision, if you ask me personally.
Yeah.
Um I'm a bit of a left list, so I would I would think of instead of one person, maybe having a group of people who've come together.
So all four of them.
Be all four of them.
Yeah.
Well, not Nicki Minaj.
Maybe like a group of people, you know, we have Mount Rushmore.
Yes.
Maybe thinking of, you know, Malcolm X, Dr. King, a group of, you know, individuals who fought, gave um made the ultimate sacrifice, gave up their lives for um, you know, pushing a more progressive, inclusive agenda, I would say.
Who out of this list of people do you think we should replace it with?
If any Beyonce?
T'Challo from Wakanda, Sean King, or Nicki Minaj?
Just replaces and like definitely Nicki Minaj.
Why her?
She's awful.
Like her singing is awful.
So we should replace it with her.
Oh, oh, replace the statue.
Oh, no, definitely not Nicki Minaj.
Okay, okay.
Um who was the first one?
Beyonce.
You know, let's go with Beyonce.
Everyone likes Beyonce.
Yeah.
Well, I don't, but that's okay.
Tell me if you think any of these four options are better than the Confederate soldiers on that statue.
Okay.
Okay, ready?
Beyonce.
T'Challo from Wakanda.
Cardi B. Okay.
Nicki Minaj.
Are any of those better options than what's there now?
Well, I'm just saying I don't.
I feel like necessarily like although all those people are very legendary and stuff like that.
There are definitely black people in black history, people who have changed black history in that sense, who definitely could be memorialized and things like that.
Like Harriet Tubman or someone of that nature, especially here in Jacksonville.
Or Marsha P. Johnson.
How about we how about we put like a black truth woman up there?
How about we're a black truth woman?
Okay.
Who out of this list of people do you think we should replace it with?
If any Beyonce?
T'Challo from Wakanda, Sean King, or Nicki Minaj.
Just replaces in like definitely Nicki Minaj.
Why her?
She's awful.
Like her singing is awful.
So we should replace it with her.
Oh, oh, replace the statue.
Oh, no, definitely not Nicki Minaj.
Okay, okay.
Um who was the first one?
Beyonce.
You know, let's go with Beyonce.
Everyone likes Beyonce.
Yeah.
Well, I don't, but that's okay.
Who would you like it to be replaced with?
Uh probably somebody who stands up good for good things.
And Martin Luther King was a really good guy.
Somebody really respectable like that.
Okay.
What about you?
Yeah, I agree.
Someone who had a good influence on the someone who had a good influence on the world.
Okay, perfect.
What about Jesus?
Huh?
Jesus' pretty good.
Sure.
I mean, I'm not anti-religious or anything.
Cardi B?
Sure.
Cardi B. Okay.
Who else?
Uh Stalin.
No.
No?
Don't like Stalin?
No, I'm not a big Stalin fan.
Amazing.
Okay, so good.
Alright.
The nobody, not anybody, right?
Okay.
But yeah, they're like top stars of this age versus like the major fascist leaders.
Yeah.
Way back then.
Like, obviously, that's not something anyone wants to represent.
Like, I agree.
I don't want a statue of those people.
Anywhere.
I'm good.
I'm good with that.
Than having a statue of any slave owner in Confederate general.
So George Washington, he's out.
Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, they're all out.
You know they're on our money, right?
Pardon?
They're on our money.
I know, I'm well aware.
You want to get rid of that?
I'm not getting rid of our money, it's not what I'm saying.
But you know, I'm so we need to get rid of the statues, but not the money.
Well, I mean, as they're doing with Andrew Jackson, you can replace faces.
What's wrong with Beyonce?
Well, I mean she's talented, but she's not like a figure for that.
She fights, she's a Black Lives Matter supporter.
Yeah.
So is Sean King.
He's a leader, Black Lives Matter leader.
And I'm a Black Lives Matter supporter.
I go to vote.
I don't know.
We can replace it with you.
No.
That would be super progressive.
Well that would be better than what's there, right?
I mean, I wouldn't be better than what's there, but something else would be.
And at the end of the day, here's what I'm gonna say.
You can do anything you want and make noise elsewhere.
You know, you want to like replace statues, that's one thing.
But until you make real change, and I'm talking like change laws, change policies, all this doesn't matter.
All this is noise.
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