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Feb. 16, 2020 - Liberty Hangout - Kaitlin Bennett
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Kaitlin Bennett Changes Hearts and Minds
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Unborn Persons Rights 00:15:08
That's an amazing story.
You were able to overcome that.
You're in college.
And one day, we'll sure we'll hear about you in the headlines because you're going to make something out of yourselves.
Don't let someone else's view of you bring you down to where you don't rise above it.
Imagine if I did that.
So many people hate me.
Imagine if I did that.
Your situation is a lot worse than whatever I go through.
But you're still here today.
I'm still here today.
You deserve to live.
You always deserve to live from the moment you were conceived.
And I'm glad you're here.
I'm very strong.
And my beliefs and my convictions, I really love what I believe in.
And I know that I'm right.
So this doesn't bother me.
I mean, because I believe that I'm right.
I don't agree with that.
You said that you know you're right because it is your personal set of beliefs.
So like, I'm not gonna say that my personal set of beliefs are right just because I believe in it.
So I think that that may be something that people do get a little annoyed with you with, because you do sometimes say that like oh, my beliefs are like the right way, like you would.
That's why they're my beliefs, because I do believe they are the right way and I will stand up for them at all costs and I will never falter for my beliefs.
I 100% know what I believe is right.
It's based on data, it's based on science and it's based on looking at a society and what I want and a family structure and what I want in a society that lifts people up, holds a family structure together, like a family structure, like per se.
Yeah, so I don't think that we should be pushing women into.
So this will sound bad until I say it.
We should not be telling women that it's bad to be a mother.
We shouldn't be telling women that you have to abort your baby to be successful in a career.
Being a mother is the most amazing thing you can be.
You are bringing life into the world.
No one else can do that except women.
That's the most important thing we could ever do.
And then we have to have a strong male figure in our lives.
We have to have stable relationships to bring up stable families and stable children.
That's what we need.
I was gonna say I respect that, but I was brought up by three very strong women with no strong man in the household, so I don't believe that women have to be somewhere.
Statistically, it is better for a strong male figure to be in the house, but that's not always the time.
I bet you are absolutely like I said.
That's not always the case, but statistically it is better.
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How about you, Joe?
So actually yes, but that doesn't mean that it's true across the board.
For example, if you look at the African American community and you compare it to the Non-African American community, for example, if you look at the standard Caucasian man versus a standard African American man at the same age, and then you go up the ladder to look at them at different ages to see how they're progressing, right.
So statistically African Americans 75% of them grow up without a father in their home.
Guess what percentage of them end up being incarcerated?
The exact same percentage.
So if you see that when boys are raised without a father they end up in prison, then you can determine that boys should be raised with a father.
So especially for boys, you need.
Correlation does prove causation when you look at the same way that the African American community was doing in the 70s and then you look at how they're doing now, and in the 70s we had segregate.
You know, in the early 60s we had segregation.
They were doing better under segregation, family-wise and as a community, than they are doing now.
And you said what they had no rights.
So so that would.
That would actually further prove my point, because if they had no rights and they were still able to do successfully, I'm saying we should go back to having black fathers in the hall.
We can have black fathers in the home, but I mean, or no, not exactly black fathers, but I agree that maybe more families on the African-American community need to have stronger male role models, but there's also certain things that have been factored like their environment around them.
And I'm not saying that excuse for it all the time, but that's mostly why people do end up in jail, their environment around them, because they're under discrimination under police.
They get caught 10 times.
I'm trying to hear what she's saying.
I can't hear what she's saying.
It's okay, it's okay.
On, like, if like a 12-year-old girl is raped, and like, what would you say in that situation if it harms her and the baby?
So, well, if she's raped and becomes pregnant, biologically, biologically, she is able to have a baby.
So, it's uncommon in our culture to say that a 12-year-old can't have a baby.
That happens all the time.
And I am not advocating for that to happen at all at all.
But biologically, she is ready.
What makes the 12-year-old's life more important than the life of that unborn child?
Both of their lives are important.
We don't get to get rid of one just to appease the other.
And it's so terrible of what happened.
I am not advocating or justifying that at all.
What do you think is going to happen to the child's life after they're born?
I think it'll be traumatized.
Okay.
I think it'll be traumatized, but we do not get to kill people based on traumatization.
Just because the law, just because the law doesn't consider it, okay.
So, just because the law says something doesn't make it just.
The law once said that we could segregate people based on skin color.
Didn't make it right?
Didn't make it true.
Didn't make it just.
But that still happens, though.
What?
Discrimination.
I said segregation.
Oh, segregation, after that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
So that's, you know, that was once law.
And just because the law doesn't define somebody unborn as a person doesn't mean it's not true.
So, but don't you think the laws should be more direct about what they want in the United States?
What do you mean?
So, like, you know how there's a lot of like leeway between like you can interpret different things, right?
Yeah.
So do you think that the law should be more specific?
The law should be that we should abolish abortion.
100%.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's what the law should be: that we should abolish.
I think that just because of that law, that all other laws should be very strict and very straightforward.
So all the laws across the entire United States say that you cannot murder someone.
I think we should apply that to unborn persons as well.
They cannot survive without this at certain points.
Does that make them not a baby?
No, but I'm saying that at a certain point, they can't survive on their own.
So even if we get your ass out of here!
So even if the baby were to be born, I do just want to point out, like, everybody wants to hear a conversation right now, but that the drummer guy will let.
Yeah.
No, I'm taking your stick.
Shut up.
I think he surpassed you for being the most hated person on children.
So medically, around 20, 21 weeks is the point of viability for an unborn child to survive with medical help.
But even if that person, the woman were to give birth to a baby, still needs somewhere to take care of it.
It can't just not survive on its own.
So are you better off putting it in the adoption system then?
Is that what you're saying?
Adoption is better than killing the baby.
I don't know.
That doesn't mean we should kill it.
That is not even a conversation.
Do you know, like, that child's life has a high possibility of being ruined once you dump it in the adoption system?
And by dump, I don't mean like, you know, get rid of your child, but it's 90% likely that it'll be ruined if you kill it.
You should let them talk.
Yeah, let me have this conversation.
I appreciate your input.
We can tag Tame.
Yeah, let the woman talk.
That's exactly what I was going to say.
So it has a high chance of being ruined by some standards if we put it into adoption.
It has a 100% chance of being ruined if we abort the baby.
They don't even have a chance.
But how is it getting ruined if it's never started?
Exactly.
It's ruined.
The life isn't even.
The life did start at conception.
There is genetic material.
The thing.
How many weeks?
21 weeks, right?
That is when a baby can survive outside of the room with medical help.
Yes, it's still a baby.
A baby is a baby at conception.
They have their own DNA.
There's not going to be another person like it on earth.
They already have their hair color assigned.
Their gender is assigned.
They already know what their eye color is going to be.
It doesn't matter.
Your size doesn't matter.
Their size is not determined.
Yeah.
But personally, think about it.
I am the one that'll have to hear you.
I'm the one that has to pay the medical bills and supply that baby with a place to stay if I want to actually keep it and not give it up for adoption, right?
Like, but the government doesn't necessarily offer welfare enough to support those people.
Because depending on where you fall in the poverty line or if your parents are going to help you or not, then what does that do for you?
So you don't have to rely on the government for all of your help.
There are churches.
Actually, churches make up more for charity than welfare does.
They help more people than the government welfare does.
And I'm just going to be 100% blunt.
It's not the government's job to step in and help you when you've made choices.
They're trying to stay.
So I let you talk.
I let you talk.
I'm not trying to be rude, but I would like to finish my point.
So you shouldn't rely on the government.
The government shouldn't say, hey, please don't murder your baby.
We'll give you extra money.
It's not my job to take care of anybody else's baby.
So welfare relies on stealing from other people through taxation.
What is it?
Fair share of taxes, and I pay her my.
I do not pay a fair share.
The taxes I'm going to pay could buy me a house.
That's how much I have to pay in taxes.
That is not fair.
Why isn't that fair?
Because it's my money.
It's my money.
I shouldn't have to give it to organizations that are government funded that go against my beliefs.
100%.
I should not have to give my money.
Just like you would.
Yeah, you can buy it.
Let me give you an example.
Would you want your money going to build the wall?
Honestly, what the intentions of the wall, though, like Trump's wall, Trump's border wall for immigration.
Yeah.
Would you want your money to go and fund to build that?
I'm just trying to give you an example.
Logically, like there's some actual plan written out of how it's actually going to support and help the United States and not do like how Mexicans support this.
It's not necessarily keep Mexicans out.
It's more like if it's not officially, efficiently stopping immigrants from coming in that are not supposed to be here.
Not saying that every immigrant that's here like should just be removed automatically.
Right.
Because like not everybody's going to be a felon or commit a crime.
And like, honestly, most of them just want an opportunity to become an United States citizen.
That's it.
I love that you're talking about immigration.
I do want to get back to talking about.
Well, I was, let me tell you why I brought it up because I'm asking you, for an example, when we get taxed and we are forced to give our money to the government, they then distribute it to other programs.
Programs that I don't want to fund.
I don't want to fund Planned Parenthood.
I don't want to fund people's education.
I don't, you're being incredibly rude.
We're having a conversation.
We're having a conversation.
If you want to talk, we'll get to you next.
I don't want to fund Planned Parenthood.
I don't want to fund Medicare for people.
I don't want to fund education.
I don't want to fund anything for anybody against my will.
I give to the charities that I want to give to.
Why do you choose to be a United States citizen?
I'm sorry.
Why do you choose to be a United States citizen?
Did I choose that?
Were you born here?
Did I choose to be a United States citizen?
You can choose to leave the country and renounce your citizenship.
So you are choosing to be a United States citizen.
I love living in America.
Just because I disagree on the taxation aspect.
You did choose that at this point.
I would disagree with you that I chose to be a United States citizen.
But at any point, you can renounce your citizenship.
I don't want to.
I'm not sure exactly how it fits into the argument.
Are you trying to say that if I don't what?
They're asking you.
I have a very soft voice, and when I talk loud, it cracks, and I sound like I'm going through puberty.
So basically, what I'm saying is through taxation, when the government takes money from us against our will, if you don't pay taxes, you're going to go to jail.
And they're going to come to your house with guns at gunpoint and make you support what they want you to fund.
I give my personal money from my paycheck to charities I support.
That's how things should be ran.
If you really support free education, you should give your money to a college student to give them a free education.
You shouldn't demand money be taken from other people to fund something that you want.
It is so unethical.
It's so unethical to take from someone else and give it to somebody else.
Yeah.
So let's say, so if you don't support abortions, would you be willing to at least support free condoms or free birth control to provide to people to prevent those abortions?
Again, I don't believe in, so if someone is just buying these condoms and giving them out, great.
Am I wanting the government to steal from me and give it to these people?
No.
Again, taxation is still wrong.
But I would rather be stolen from for condoms and birth control than stolen from to fund areas that have abortions in them and abortions.
Because abortions are funded by the state level, not the federal.
So when they say abortions aren't government funded, they are at the state level.
So you said you didn't exactly like Planned Parenthood, but are you aware that a lot of their services aren't just abortion?
They're also free STD testing and things like birth control, et cetera, like that.
Would it just be that specific funding you wanted to be cut off, or did you want the entire would you want all your funding?
All of it because my money should not be stolen to give to anybody else if I don't want it to.
If Planned Parenthood into abortions, because that is the majority of what they do.
That is a majority of what they do.
If someone goes in for an abortion, they're also getting an SCD test.
They're getting a pregnancy test.
They're getting future birth control and the abortion.
They go in there.
The main reason they go in there is for an abortion, but they count it as only a fourth of the reason.
So when they do their statistics, it's like, oh, we don't do a lot of abortions.
They do, but they really boil it down to a fourth of it and they round that up in their statistics.
But I still think taxation is wrong, no matter what.
But it's in, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think under the statute of liberty, it says, give me your poor, give me your child.
Impact Of Resentment 00:00:55
And I don't know.
To me, that's kind of like the foundation of what this country should be about, which is, yes, you may not exactly love it, but it should be about helping each other out, letting your neighbor a hand if you want to.
Yeah, but not by force.
Okay.
Yeah.
So that's it.
Taxation is force.
It's theft.
It's unethical.
It's not okay to take $20 from you and give it to you because you need lunch today.
The thing like for me is like my mom was very and she resented having me.
And I'm sorry.
And like that impacted my life so much.
And it's like I don't want other kids to also feel like that, the resentment from their parents.
Yes, it is emotionally traumatizing.
I'm sorry you went through that experience.
I will not sit here and tell you that you should have been killed instead.
Rise Above It 00:03:52
Absolutely not.
You are strong enough to rise above that.
Look at you.
You're in college right now.
You're in college.
You're going to make something out of your life.
You are strong enough as a woman.
Women are very strong.
We are so strong.
I'm going to tell you right to your face, you were strong enough to not let that traumatizing situation weigh you down.
Look at you.
Look at you.
Yes, that was emotional and that was upsetting.
Look at where you're at now.
That's an amazing story.
You were able to overcome that.
You're in college.
And one day, we'll sure we'll hear about you in the headlines because you're going to make something out of yourselves.
Don't let someone else's view of you bring you down to where you don't rise above it.
Imagine if I did that.
So many people hate me.
Imagine if I did that.
Your situation is a lot worse than whatever I go through.
But you're still here today.
I'm still here today.
You deserve to live.
You always deserve to live from the moment you were conceived.
And I'm glad you're here.
Thank you for saying that you're glad I'm here.
You're welcome.
I think another thing with like the whole abortion argument and what people argue the most about is like scientifically when they think life starts.
And I know that your opinion is that life starts at conception, but the thing that I've always struggled with is like scientifically when a human can actually live on their own within the womb.
I think it's difficult because like I'm Catholic, so like I am pro-life for myself, but I'm pro-choice for others.
Because I think it's such a fine line to try and decide whether or not like when life starts scientifically or when life starts for your beliefs.
Okay, so let me give you an example.
If you were driving down the road and a figure came out in front of the road and it looked like a person, would you slam on your brakes so you didn't hit that person?
Yes.
So you would err on the side of safety.
Why don't we do that with unborn children?
Why don't we err on the side of safety and we say, whoa, okay, we don't know if that's a person in there.
I happen to think it is a person in there.
It has its own DNA.
Gender's already been assigned.
I call her there will never be another human on earth that is like that unborn child that was just conceived.
We should err on the side of safety regardless and say, we don't know 100%.
Let's not commit a human rights atrocity right now and let this happen.
That's what I think.
I think that's most logical.
So what would you say, like, if you saw like this perfect society that you could create, like, what would you do for people who don't have the money to have a child, but like you don't think that they should have that child aborted because it is life?
Like, what would you try and put in place for them for people who financially can't?
And like the current adoption system is a mess.
There are hundreds of thousands of children.
Foster homes.
Foster homes too.
And like what would you, in like a perfect society, what would you want to happen?
We already have it.
We already have private organizations.
And I don't know if you heard my spiel.
I donate hundreds of my own dollars.
You know what I mean?
The churches.
But those aren't helping everyone.
That's because not everyone seeks out their help.
They want to rely on the government.
They want to excuse their choices to have an abortion and say, I don't have enough help.
If they went and sought out the help, it's there.
I'm here right here.
Send me a message.
Hey, I need help.
I need financial help.
I need help with X, Y, and Z.
I will not hesitate to post anything on there.
Is everything okay?
Yeah, it was just the brooms.
The what?
Sometimes the brooms are not.
They're holding up the brooms.
Support and Success 00:00:58
Oh, the brooms.
Trimies.
So why would you let somebody that is so stupid that they would say something so ignorant dictate your behavior in any way?
I'm not letting them detect you.
Because that's what everyone's doing is not talking about it.
If that's what everyone thinks, they don't want you to go up in this country.
So they don't give you the opportunity.
So then you bust your butt and you show them that you don't care what they think and you become successful.
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