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| I feel like most of the times whenever women have abortions, it's whenever they're in an unstable situation to raise them. | |
| Most of the time they get abortions, it's because they don't want it. | |
| Sure, like if they don't want it, that means they're probably in a situation where they can't afford it or they're not in a stable. | |
| They don't list financial reasons out of it. | |
| It's because they just don't want it. | |
| Okay, well, I mean, still, like, if they don't want to care for the child, that means the child will still grow up in an unloved environment, which would be bad for them anyways. | |
| worse than death um i would say like from like things that i've read living in poverty is worse than dying I mean, I'm pro-choice. | |
| I'm kind of... | |
| Well, you can be pro-choice and acknowledge that it's deaf. | |
| Well, you can be pro-choice and acknowledge that it's deaf. | |
| Um, I mean, yeah, it's deaf, but, like... | |
| So what, right? | |
| I mean... | |
| Equality, right? | |
| Like, who cares if Planned Parenthood is killing babies? | |
| Who cares? | |
| Quality, right? | |
| I mean, it's not like it's, I don't know. | |
| I feel like just like the fundamentals of abortion are outweigh. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Outweigh what? | |
| I feel like just like the negative aspect of like forcing a woman to like raise a child that she doesn't want probably outweighs. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I certainly feel like it affects anyone else. | |
| I feel like the long-term affair. | |
| It does affect somebody else because someone else's life is ending. | |
| But I feel like the long-term effects of having the choice of having a baby or not outweighs the short-term aspect of killing a fetus. | |
| You do admit that it's killing. | |
| Sure, but I feel like it's really important. | |
| I think it's more important to have like, I think it's more important to have abortions illegal because of the fact, like if, like, if abortions aren't legal, then, like, they're still going to occur. | |
| So I feel like it's important to, like, even if I don't agree with abortion on like a moral level, it's important to keep it legal because they'll still happen. | |
| It'll still happen. | |
| Like, murder will still happen in this country, so why make it illegal, right? | |
| Well, I feel like if it's illegal, it'll just happen in unsafe ways that'll cause abortion. | |
| Well, yeah, murder, I mean, it is illegal to go stab someone, but by God, that happens a lot more often than people are shot to death. | |
| So why make stabbings illegal? | |
| Right? | |
| They're just going to do it anyway. | |
| should have a safe way to stab someone else right well no i feel like like especially like why not Why not, though? | |
| So if we should make abortion, which you admit is killing, legal, because if we don't, then people will do it anyway. | |
| Why can't we just make me stabbing you right now and killing you legal because I might do it anyway? | |
| So the majority of abortions, I feel like, like, especially late-term abortions, are especially important just because, like, they occur because whenever they're at, like, late-term abortion, yeah, excuse me, late-term abortions are important because it occurs whenever the mother's health is in danger. | |
| So what do you mean? | |
| No, it doesn't. | |
| There is no instance where a late-term termination of a pregnancy has to happen to save the mother's life. | |
| Late-term would mean after 21 weeks, and that is a point of viability, they can do a C-section, remove the baby, and save the mother. | |
| You know what late-term abortion does? | |
| They explain a process of a late-term abortion to me. | |
| Yeah, so it's late-term abortions happen. | |
| It's not really so, like, it's not really the fact that the mother's like, oops, I forgot to get an abortion, sorry. | |
| Like, scratch my head. | |
| Sometimes that happens. | |
| All the articles I've read just point to the fact that like late-term abortion. | |
| Well, tell me how it happens. | |
| What's the process? | |
| What's the procedure? | |
| What's step one in a late-term abortion? | |
| Step one. | |
| I'm not really sure what actually occurs, but. | |
| So you're going to put the woman into labor. | |
| She is going to go into labor. | |
| She's going to give birth, but the baby will be dead. | |
| That's what a late-term abortion is. | |
| Why can't we just do a C-section, save the baby, and save the mother? | |
| No one's life has to end. | |
| That's interesting. | |
| I feel like just the possible outcomes of having the baby anyways still outweigh. | |
| Like the foster system is really not good, and like the adoption system is pretty poor. | |
| So are you willing to look in the camera right now and tell all of the adopted viewers that they should have been aborted because their life could have been worse? | |
| I'm not going to say that, but I feel like... | |
| How can you equate the two? | |
| It's worse to go into a foster care system than to die. | |
| No, I'm not saying that. | |
| I'm just saying that, like, it's... | |
| He's trying to make sure I'm... | |
| Yeah, no, I'm not saying that. | |
| I'm just saying that like I just feel like whenever like a mother doesn't want to have a child, like there's no need to or like put them up for adoption either. | |
| I feel like it's just like really unethical to force someone to give birth to a baby because like labor is a word. | |
| No one's forcing anybody to give birth. | |
| Right, but no one's forcing that. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| Where do you see that people are forcing people to give? | |
| Like going through labor is like a really, really difficult and painful thing to do. | |
| What do you think abortion is? | |
| Right. | |
| So I mean like the same thing. | |
| Like if you're not going to have the child anyways, there's no point of going through like the painful and long process of giving labor. | |
| How could we change your mind? | |
| Because you admit that abortion is killing. | |
| What would it take to change your mind and say killing is wrong? | |
| Do you think killing is wrong? | |
| I mean yeah. | |
| Then why are you making an exception for the tiniest humans on this earth? | |
| They're innocent. | |
| They've done nothing wrong. | |
| Their circumstances don't matter to their humanity. | |
| Someone who was conceived in rape or just unwanted or wanted, their humanity is still there. | |
| They didn't choose any of those situations in which they were conceived. | |
| They're innocent. | |
| They're the most precious people that we have on this earth. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, I'm making an exception just because of like the possible outcomes that have been like empirically proven to happen afterwards. | |
| Possible outcomes. | |
| If you were driving and you saw something that looked like a human in the road, would you slam on your brakes to prevent from hitting it? | |
| Sure. | |
| Yeah, sure. | |
| So the possible outcome, you avoided possibly killing a person. | |
| You don't know. | |
| You don't know if it was a person, but you prevented yourself from going through and causing this, not knowing the reality of if that was a human. | |
| Why can't we do that and apply it? | |
| Even if it was still an animal, I would still stop. | |
| So why would you stop and not kill an animal, but you're okay with women killing their babies? | |
| Because I'm using your words. | |
| You admit that it's killing. | |
| Sure. | |
| Why is there an exception for the most innocent people on this earth? | |
| I feel like there's just an exception because whenever it's me or anyone physically doing the act of killing something that's already alive and already experiencing its environmental surroundings, I just feel like that's a lot different than a little quick painless process. | |
| Babies feel pain. | |
| They have nerve endings. | |
| it's one of the first things that develop is their nerve endings okay but i mean i feel like like once again it's just the possible outcomes that i mean all the what is What if the possible out what there is a possible outcome that they're gonna live to cure cancer? | |
| They're gonna live to be the next president and make this the world the great place, implement world peace. | |
| They're gonna sit there and do something that would make it to where nobody ever had to be killed on this earth. | |
| That's a possible outcome. | |
| What about that outcome? | |
| Well, I feel like it's also like hard to get to like get to that point if that was like you said like they could cure cancer. | |
| Because most I feel like most of the times whenever women have abortions, it's whenever they're in an unstable situation to raise them. | |
| Most of the time they get abortions, it's because they don't want it. | |
| Sure. | |
| Like if they don't want it, that means they're probably in a situation where they can't afford it or they're not in a stable. | |
| They don't list financial reasons out of it. | |
| It's because they just don't want it. | |
| Okay, well, I mean, still, like, if they don't want to care for the child, that means the child will still grow up in an unloved environment, which would be bad for them anyways. | |
| Worse than death? | |
| I would say, like, from things that I've read, living in poverty is worse than dying. | |
| So, yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| Well, thank you so much. | |
| I do appreciate that. | |
| It's an awkward shirt you have on for this conversation. | |
| Thank you so much. | |
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