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Youth Clubs and Police Matters
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| Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. | |
| Welcome to the podcast of the Load Seaters for Thursday, the 2nd of April, 2026. | |
| Thank God it's not April Fool's Day. | |
| I hate April Fool's Day. | |
| It's the least funny thing ever. | |
| Agreed. | |
| It just annoys me. | |
| I'm joined by Nate and Feras, and today we're going to be talking about the phenomenal cope that has been coming out about Clapham. | |
| Luca covered it yesterday. | |
| I want to do a follow up because it's only after the event that all the cope starts pouring out of literally everyone. | |
| And then we're going to be delving into the mind of Britain's, I think we can call him our premier thinker. | |
| Most accurate predictor of political events, a real Nostradamus, as it were. | |
| And we're going to be looking into his brain to see what makes him tick. | |
| And then we're going to be asking, what are we even doing with Iran? | |
| What's going on? | |
| That's not a touchy subject. | |
| Yeah. | |
| We will get into it. | |
| Anyway, let's begin. | |
| So Clapham's brilliant. | |
| Everyone loves Clapham, don't they? | |
| Yes. | |
| It's amazing. | |
| Everyone's been there. | |
| Diversity is amazing. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You look at the diversity of the area and you realize, yeah, that's what it was like six years ago, right? | |
| Before the Boris wave. | |
| Oh, good lord. | |
| That's terrible now, isn't it? | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| I mean, there are places in London that are more diversified, don't get me wrong, than Clapham. | |
| But it must be really good, though, because Sadiq Khan is constantly telling me how diversity is our strength. | |
| That is true. | |
| And he must be right about that. | |
| And it's not just self serving because he is a part of the diversity. | |
| Anyway, this was it six years ago. | |
| So, I mean, pretty. | |
| Hmm. | |
| I wouldn't personally want to live there. | |
| But I just don't like cities. | |
| I mean, neither would I. | |
| I just don't like cities. | |
| You've got to understand. | |
| I like living in the towns and the shires. | |
| Couldn't live in London. | |
| But anyway, so things have been going really well. | |
| And as Luca covered yesterday, it's been called a riot, but it's not a riot because a riot is over something. | |
| Right. | |
| As in, you know, oh, we're protesting the government or we haven't got food or something. | |
| And we're rioting because we have not. | |
| Got something we need. | |
| It's actually being called a riot. | |
| Yes. | |
| That's how they're framing it. | |
| Yes. | |
| Wow. | |
| And this is an accurate description to say that it's just effusive exuberance being expressed. | |
| I mean, that's one very kind way of putting it. | |
| Right. | |
| Yes. | |
| That's absolutely the case. | |
| But before we continue, of course, we have the live event on the 11th of April. | |
| Come and see us. | |
| I have spent all morning signing our back copies of Islander magazine. | |
| My elbow is killing me. | |
| At this point, right? | |
| RSI. | |
| It's no, no, it's because I've got a stack. | |
| It's my elbow holding it up that's been the problem. | |
| I've been signing all of these back copies of Under that we've been keeping in our storeroom that you can come and buy at the live event if you would like to get some. | |
| Because a lot of people mess with me, can I get an old copy of that? | |
| No, you can't because we're not reprinting them, but we do have some in the back office. | |
| And so now we're going to bring them so you can get them there. | |
| So all the more incentive. | |
| Anyway. | |
| So, yes, we saw the youth in Clapham. | |
| Play that without the sound. | |
| Again, riot, what would they be writing over? | |
| Writing over what? | |
| Law and order? | |
| The fact that we live in a clean and decent country. | |
| But everyone noticed there's a particular sort of demographic profile to the rioters. | |
| They're youths, they're teenagers, they're urban. | |
| I mean,. | |
| Is that if you notice it's bad and if none of these are euphemisms, I was gonna say none of them, you just know that they are, uh, no, no, I mean, it's just youths causing havoc, youths causing havoc. | |
| Uh, okay, so what happened? | |
| Well, turns out six teenage girls were arrested for causing this, uh, which I mean, there was a lot more than that. | |
| Well, uh, yeah, as with all things, they've decided we're just gonna arrest the ringleaders, but no, six teenage girls have been arrested after two separate incidents of antisocial behavior. | |
| Fueled by online trends in southwest London, the Met police have said. | |
| Let's sort of examine this. | |
| Let's sort of examine this. | |
| It means that a bunch of people got on TikTok or shit talk or something or the other and decided, I'm bored. | |
| What shall we do? | |
| Let's go break up shops and loot them in Clap. | |
| Apparently, loot the McDonald's? | |
| How do you even loot McDonald's? | |
| Do you just take run over? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I don't understand. | |
| I guess they do have some on the hot plate. | |
| I've never been involved in a looting flashback of ethnic youths before. | |
| No, weirdly, I have. | |
| I thought this was distinctly British. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| It's not. | |
| But anyway, three girls, one age 17 and two age 13, were arrested for this. | |
| What that means is that the police focused on the weakest in the bunch instead of actually getting. | |
| Well, we don't know. | |
| That's the thing. | |
| Like, because at the end of the day, these sorts of online trends are not actually new. | |
| These have happened before. | |
| And what it is, is young urban youths in inner cities who can contact each other on social media and get like, oh, if, you know, I mean, one shopkeeper, a fried chicken shop owner said, I would say there was a thousand running around. | |
| Yeah, Clapham's just our best place in the British Isles. | |
| You just want to go there, don't you? | |
| But it's. | |
| Looting. | |
| Flash mob of fried chicken, was it? | |
| Cucumber sandwiches, were they? | |
| No, no, no. | |
| The fried chicken shop owner said, I had to close the door. | |
| I don't want any trouble. | |
| There are a lot of them. | |
| You couldn't count them. | |
| I'd say there were a thousand of them running around. | |
| But that's the point. | |
| It's the bored young inner city youths who have formed a flash mob to essentially go and just cause chaos because the system itself is very permissive of almost everything they do. | |
| There's no real hard punishments for any of these people, right? | |
| I mean, for example, the 17 year old and 13 year olds. | |
| What's going to happen to them? | |
| Nothing. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Nothing. | |
| Nothing. | |
| Slap on the wrist and they're going to go and do it again. | |
| Exactly. | |
| They're going to be lectured by some Karens who they're just like smirking and then those will be sent home. | |
| It's way worse than that as well, isn't it? | |
| It's the entirety of them. | |
| So it's had such notoriety. | |
| Everyone's got away with it. | |
| Even the people that have been caught. | |
| Everyone's got away with it. | |
| And again, wide notoriety. | |
| They're all going to view this as well, that was brilliant fun. | |
| Let's do it again. | |
| Yes. | |
| And that's going to be a persistent issue now. | |
| Well, it's because they've allowed it already. | |
| This isn't the first one. | |
| Remember a couple of years ago where they were looting like the American candy shops and stuff like this? | |
| I don't remember that one. | |
| Oh, we covered it a couple of years ago. | |
| This is not a new phenomenon where they realize they get, after a while, they just get bored and realize there's no particular punishments if we just act out. | |
| So why don't we just go for a bit of a joy, a thrill seeking like gang, like form up a little gang and just run around and smash stuff up and be total pricks? | |
| It's fascinating, isn't it? | |
| Like the demographics involved and how the media is just trying to gloss over everything. | |
| Yep. | |
| And yet the moment. | |
| Oh, I don't know. | |
| Like, I always think back to Southport instantly, boom, straight out far right thugs. | |
| Not all this. | |
| And then, sorry, Kissed Arma, have you said anything? | |
| What I love about this particular image is how it's such a great snapshot of the pure modernist dystopia that is the UK. | |
| Like, you know, a thousand urban youths crowding around the bleak dystopian McDonald's sign. | |
| Like, the grey, you know, you're just here to collect your pre packaged slop. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Get out or go to the chicken shop next door that's run by the Asians or whatever. | |
| It's like, yeah, incredible. | |
| I'll bet you that one of the shops in the middle is a vape shop. | |
| Oh, undoubtedly. | |
| And one? | |
| Oh, no. | |
| Not only just a vape shop, a mobile. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| A flash vape shop has to be in there. | |
| And there's going to be a money changing shop over there, you know, because you need to send. | |
| Yes, on. | |
| Turkish barbers. | |
| Yeah. | |
| It's just so bleak. | |
| Well, actually, there's a Turkish barber's sign there. | |
| You can see underneath the McDonald's one. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That's right. | |
| You can. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Brilliant. | |
| So there we go. | |
| It's such a snapshot of the dystopian state of Britain at the moment. | |
| And these are just the bored youth who have literally got nothing to do. | |
| They literally do nothing and they get punished for nothing. | |
| They've got no expectations placed upon them. | |
| Anyway, the Met gave us an update, which they posted on Twitter. | |
| And I've decided this is the best part of it. | |
| The parents and guardians of those involved in last night's disorder also have a role to play. | |
| I'd appeal to them to take responsibility, to be proactive in knowing where their children are and who they're with. | |
| To take steps to make sure they're not involved in this sort of unacceptable antisocial behaviour. | |
| What percentage of these people do you think know who their fathers are? | |
| That is exactly what I was going to say. | |
| I mean, it's bold of Met Police to say that they have parents. | |
| So, what percentage of these people's mothers are in social housing and are on benefits? | |
| Not stone out of their mind. | |
| I'm sorry, but this is not a group of people whose entire families have ever actually taken responsibility. | |
| And we know this by the numbers. | |
| Like the numbers are all in. | |
| We'll go through the numbers in a bit, in fact, if you want. | |
| But we know the demographic profile of the people. | |
| We know the kind of things that they do. | |
| We know the kind of environments that they live in. | |
| And then we know the kind of things they get up to because they're bored. | |
| It's like, okay, I don't think taking responsibility is on the table here at all. | |
| Also, it's not, sorry, at this point, they've broken the law. | |
| I know they're underage, but no, no, no, no. | |
| This is actually a police matter now. | |
| But have you considered the kind of soft touch, feely feely, like smooth, sort of kind, calm, talkative way that the state wants to deal with this? | |
| I have. | |
| Well, let me show you the best. | |
| See, the managerial elite, the feminized managerial elite, they need to know why this has happened. | |
| Right. | |
| Okay. | |
| And so I found this from a chap called Tom Bennett. | |
| Look at this tweet. | |
| What are the unmet needs here? | |
| What is this behavior communicating? | |
| What restorative process will enable us to avoid scenes like this in the future? | |
| So basically, he's saying pay them reparations so they don't loot you. | |
| That's what invaders do. | |
| Maybe, maybe. | |
| Now, do they need a youth club? | |
| Oh, wonderful. | |
| Yeah. | |
| They need a youth club, for instance. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Maybe that will stop them. | |
| So I have. | |
| He's your advisor for the UK Department for Education. | |
| Yes. | |
| He can tell us then, can't he? | |
| You would think. | |
| Now, the reason I had the Wayback Machine, right? | |
| I had to find the Google Cash of this tweet is because he had locked his account this morning. | |
| Ha ha. | |
| Because I had replied to him. | |
| Now, let me see if I can find that tweet. | |
| Did he delete it or is it still here? | |
| Because I would like to show you my response. | |
| Oh, come on. | |
| Of course, you probably. | |
| He does post a lot, doesn't he? | |
| There we go. | |
| There we go. | |
| Yep. | |
| Right. | |
| So I had said the unmet need is a severe lack of flogging for bad behavior. | |
| They aren't like you and you don't understand them, right? | |
| Yes. | |
| Because I think that's correct. | |
| Now, this Tom Bennett chap, as you can see, advisor to the UK, the government on all the sort of behavioral school behaviors, a professor of school behavior, right? | |
| And he's just like, what are the unmet needs? | |
| What restorative process? | |
| Okay. | |
| Discipline is the unmet need. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Structure is the unmet need. | |
| Punishment is the unmet need. | |
| Let's give Tom his credit. | |
| He's probably like 115 IQ. | |
| Probably his parents were married all his life. | |
| Probably he went to a nice school, went to a university, got an education, and sat there and thought, right, okay, the world can be resolved through rational discourse. | |
| Okay, Tom. | |
| Right. | |
| Now, not to be mean about this, right, but what's the average IQ of this crowd? | |
| Is rational discourse even possible? | |
| With this crowd, we'll be below Somalians, I'm sure. | |
| Well, I don't know. | |
| That's the thing. | |
| But to be polite about it, right, it's probably below average. | |
| And so the question is how do these people view abstractions? | |
| How can they project future events based on current behaviors? | |
| How do they model the future in their own heads? | |
| And the answer for Tom is well, I don't know. | |
| Because this is literally what he's saying here. | |
| It's like, oh, why are they doing this? | |
| I don't know why they're doing this. | |
| What can we even do? | |
| It's like, you. | |
| Don't know what we're meeting here, Tom. | |
| Are the limits of your philosophy, right? | |
| This is what we're meeting. | |
| You don't understand why this is happening because you have adopted a premise that is everyone is a rational person who can be reasoned with in order to make sure they understand what the consequences of current behavior will be in the future. | |
| And you have run into a group of people who just can't understand that and who don't care, would never have a conversation with you about any of this and would literally sit there bored, flicking their boogers at you or something and just waiting. | |
| And then they go, That bear man was an idiot, bro. | |
| And they would just go off like actual. | |
| I'm not going to try and be mean, but like actual idiots about this, Tom. | |
| They all need to go. | |
| All of them need to be conscripted. | |
| They need to be authoritarian. | |
| So does Tom. | |
| Militaristic training. | |
| So does Tom. | |
| This is the product of an insanely safe civilization that does not understand that actually human beings are rational animals. | |
| There is a rational side, which Tom thinks is solely the purview of all human endeavor. | |
| And then you have the animal side, which Tom totally. | |
| Don't understand. | |
| He's coming at it with it's the carrot or the stick, isn't it? | |
| He's dangling the carrot like, well, his entire worldview is the carrot. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Whereas people like this, they only understand the stick. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Right. | |
| And you know how I know this, right? | |
| This is some of those youths on the way back from Clapham, right? | |
| Listen to what this, if you can understand what this guy is saying. | |
| I hate his language. | |
| I do too. | |
| But if you can understand what he's saying, try and pass it. | |
| Enough, enough. | |
| Let me get my. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Just imagine, look at the time we're getting back from Clapham. | |
| It's a normal day in Clapham. | |
| We have to win for TTIP. | |
| We have to win for TTIP. | |
| We're coming in like this. | |
| I'm probably going to get a spanking man. | |
| You hear that? | |
| I'm probably going to get a spanking man. | |
| In between all of the gibberish, he said, I'm probably going to get a spanking man. | |
| He knows what the correct punishment for this is, right? | |
| The guys involved, they literally know if you can pass what they're saying, right? | |
|
Roving Riots and Ethnicity
00:09:06
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| But what does Tom think? | |
| What do your own needs here? | |
| Brutality, frankly, Tom. | |
| They all need a social worker or. | |
| Yeah, I know. | |
| Don't they just need youth clubs? | |
| But they don't have access to table tennis tables. | |
| It's like, no. | |
| They need to play some snooker. | |
| He knows what the answer is. | |
| He knows. | |
| He's just told you, I'm going to get a spank. | |
| Yeah, you probably bloody should. | |
| And the thing is, this is just, you know, Thing about this sort of inner city culture, which is just generally abominable, right? | |
| Yes. | |
| What are they all doing? | |
| Well, actually, these people are celebrating. | |
| I think it was a victory. | |
| It was a football match, right? | |
| I think it was like, I can't remember which teams are playing, but I think they're celebrating a football match. | |
| They're getting high. | |
| Inhaling nitrous oxide from balloons, yeah. | |
| But this is, no, no, Tom, Tom, you need to sit there and explain to them about the problems that they're going to encounter in the future. | |
| You need to make them understand, rationally, sit them down and have a reasonable discourse with them, Tom. | |
| No. | |
| That's obviously not going to work. | |
| What has happened in London? | |
| I mean, this takes us back to the future doesn't exist argument, right? | |
| Correct. | |
| It takes us back to the inability to plan and to see the future and to therefore be in some kind of pact with yourself. | |
| But to be able to even conceive that there could be a future state that you can achieve by making certain decisions. | |
| Exactly. | |
| They can't conceive that you can sacrifice now the pleasure of looting something in exchange for being a decent human being later and having a better life later. | |
| That's the trade off that they can't comprehend. | |
| Have you guys considered? | |
| That way of thinking is white supremacy. | |
| Well, I mean, this honestly is what Tom has to really deal with here the fact that actually he's talking to people, he wants to help people who literally cannot understand what he's saying. | |
| That is what's involved. | |
| Yes. | |
| Just concepts that are outside. | |
| I mean, like, do you think this guy understands what he means when he says restorative process? | |
| Like, do you think he understands? | |
| What does this behavior communicate? | |
| He goes, Oh, blood, what are you talking about? | |
| I'm going to get a smack from my mum. | |
| Yeah, you are. | |
| That he understands. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| Exactly. | |
| That he understands. | |
| And that's the extent of it. | |
| And that's the problem. | |
| The entirety of civilization, though, modern day Western worlds, have, Infantilized these ethnic groups into believing that they have to reject anything from the Western world. | |
| Sure. | |
| But I don't know if this sort of guy is someone who's ever really interacted with that. | |
| I know, but it's definitely a part of it. | |
| It is. | |
| But what that is, is the sort of the Tom people who have essentially eased off of this community. | |
| So they've gone, okay, well, we've got to leave them alone and let them do whatever they do. | |
| And this is what they're turning into, right? | |
| Without these hard borders. | |
| Without the knowledge that someone is going to be, you know, you were going to run smack into a wall here and it's going to hurt, right? | |
| Without that, they turn into that. | |
| And it's just like, no, sorry, that's just not acceptable, right? | |
| And none of your sort of lovey dovey, libtard nonsense will solve any of these problems. | |
| It is the cause of these problems. | |
| And even Sadiq Khan, even Sadiq Khan's like, yeah, okay, we're going to have to come down hard on this, right? | |
| Appalling scenes, full force of the law. | |
| They haven't done anything and they're not going to do it. | |
| Now, well, they've arrested a couple of people. | |
| And I saw in the. | |
| In the police article, they do say, we've arrested six people, more will follow. | |
| We're going to arrest more people. | |
| Okay, fair enough, good. | |
| You know, there'll be an increased police presence in the area. | |
| It's like, yeah, okay, that's something. | |
| They'll just go elsewhere. | |
| The thing about this situation is, it's roving. | |
| They will just move. | |
| Yes. | |
| London's a big place. | |
| I think the correct way to understand them is as raiding bands. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| This is what it is. | |
| Was it in Clacton? | |
| This happened on the same day after. | |
| The man in the machete attacks. | |
| No, no, it was the day after the Southport. | |
| Yeah, it was the machete gangs that were running around. | |
| That's right, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And was it in Clacton? | |
| It was somewhere. | |
| Yeah, I think so. | |
| One of the two. | |
| Yeah, because, and it was. | |
| By the seaside, it was brutal. | |
| Yeah, it's the sort of thing that's arranged on social media. | |
| You know, it's like, okay. | |
| Don't give my dears. | |
| Yeah, well, no, but it is. | |
| But then loads of people have been coming out and going, oh, well, social media is responsible. | |
| It's like, oh, yes, the social media is responsible for that. | |
| No. | |
| It's the social media, which is why my kids don't do that, because I don't let them on social media. | |
| Is that the reason? | |
| That's the only reason they don't do that, isn't it? | |
| Right, yeah. | |
| Makes sense. | |
| Anyway, there was some mega cope that came out of this, and one of the most. | |
| Mega copes of it was Kemi Badenock. | |
| And I mean, this was just a rake in the face. | |
| And I'm not trying to be mean about this in this segment, but what? | |
| To those making snide comments about race or black kids, you do not see scenes like this in Lagos or Nairobi. | |
| Not because the children there are different, but because actions have consequences. | |
| There are clear boundaries. | |
| Parents, communities, and authorities do not wring their hands or look the other way. | |
| Now, in that second half, she's correct. | |
| Yeah, but there is still an ethnic component because. | |
| Even if we all agree that actually everyone's the same, every group of people all around the world are exactly the same, you do see scenes like this in Lagos and Nairobi. | |
| She was just constantly ratioed with people posting this. | |
| And so, what I did is just typed in a Google of an African country and then the word looting. | |
| And you find lots of it. | |
| Lots of looting. | |
| I mean, this was from January in Lagos. | |
| This is Nigerian looters in 2020 who were looting the aid. | |
| We were sending them free things. | |
| They had to loot it. | |
| And they looted it. | |
| Right. | |
| So, okay. | |
| Okay. | |
| Here you have Nairobi, as John Wong posted. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Looters from a few years ago. | |
| This is the Central Business District. | |
| Yes. | |
| Yes. | |
| Then you have South Africa who are looting in the Eastern Cape. | |
| Again, Josh was pointing this out. | |
| Then you've got looting after Kenya protests because I don't know, Kenyan Prime Minister or whatever wasn't resigning or something like that. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I don't care. | |
| This was only last year, though. | |
| And need we address the summer of loving in America? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| BLM looting riots. | |
| Yeah, we did. | |
| Coming out with the incredibly expensive shoes and things. | |
| What needs were unmet for that? | |
| Great question. | |
| Thousands of businesses destroyed. | |
| You've got South Africa looting in 2021. | |
| You've got Mozambique looting, costing 12,000 jobs in 2024. | |
| You've got the looting of food trucks in Niger, which is just amazing. | |
| Just amazing. | |
| Then you've got, then, oh yeah, that was right. | |
| I got to, was it Ghana? | |
| I think this was. | |
| And the only looting I could find in Ghana was by the government. | |
| Which was looting the people. | |
| So, I mean, just I can't help but feel that actually. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| Kemi is coping very hard and it's not true what she's saying. | |
| And yeah. | |
| I mean, if I were to search looting in Wales or Scotland, well, maybe there'd be some in Scotland, but there wouldn't be much in Wales. | |
| No, I'm joking. | |
| Scots. | |
| I mean, even if you accept the premise that it's not because they are that they are doing that. | |
| Sure. | |
| Okay, sure, fine. | |
| But maybe it's because they are who they are, and other individuals can see the ethnic component by which allows the permissiveness of their behavior. | |
| So it's still, even if you entertain your position. | |
| It's our reaction to ethnicity. | |
| Even if you entertain her position, it is still down to the ethnic component. | |
| But this reaction to the ethnicity comes from the 1980s riots in Brixton and other places that were driven by the idea that the police was being too hard against the school. | |
| Which is racist. | |
| And the conclusion was. | |
| You know, exactly the Stephen Lawrence inquiry that found that no, no, no, the Met Police is institutionally racist. | |
| That is why the Met Police is backing down. | |
| So the actual origins of this date back to the 80s with these kinds of ethnic riots where cars were burnt and used as barricades. | |
| And now here we are. | |
| I mean, so, like, Kemi, she does protest too much. | |
| Well, that one singular incident, right? | |
| If they had actually come down, if the Met police had come down on them in the way that they should, and the way that they're saying that they're going to, that will blow their quotas way out the window. | |
| Oh, God, yeah. | |
| It will be. | |
| God, yeah. | |
| I mean, we know that the Met police have quotas and graphs that they're trying to follow. | |
| Yeah, but the police will be framed as an active instrument of white supremacy. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| And this is exactly what Sadiq Khan himself. | |
| Did with Stop and Search against Boris Johnson. | |
| Boris Johnson imposed Stop and Search, and they were like, oh, it's disproportionately targeting urban youths. | |
| And Boris was like, yeah, but the knife crime is down. | |
| And Sadiq Khan literally ran on the campaign of I will stop Stop and Search, woof, with the knife crime. | |
| So, anyway, parents should know where their children are and what they're doing. | |
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Household Discipline Problems
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| Discipline should start at home, not in the courtroom. | |
| Okay, well, let's talk about that, shall we? | |
| Very briefly, since we're running out of time. | |
| But so this is, oh, yeah, that I forgot to say. | |
| There's so much looting in Africa that. | |
| These sort of prison shops exist where you can't loot it because it's barricaded up. | |
| I went to one of them in Boston. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Boston, United States. | |
| I did hear you, right? | |
| I go into a shop and it turns out that I'd rented an Airbnb on the border between areas. | |
| I go to sort of try to find a beer and I get to this Korean shop and it's just, it feels like a prison. | |
| Yeah, I mean, this looks like bulletproof glass and fencing and, and, and. | |
| This looks like something out of Fallout. | |
| It's just like, this is mad. | |
| They say our shops haven't yet, but these scientifics do well. | |
| No, no, they have. | |
| But in California, They have. | |
| But our shops are like this because everything is behind lock and key now anyway. | |
| It's not the front of the shop, but everything within the shop is. | |
| Same in California, though. | |
| Everything apart from suntan lotion. | |
| I hate it. | |
| Yeah, I hate it too. | |
| Whereas in Japan, they brag about not having to tie down their Apple products to the. | |
| Yeah, you can leave your bike out. | |
| You can leave everything everywhere. | |
| People just don't touch it. | |
| So what do they do in Africa? | |
| Well, they have actually broadly the same problems that we have here. | |
| No. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| Less than one third of black South African children live with their biological fathers. | |
| Okay, that's a problem for discipline, isn't it? | |
| That's a bit of a problem. | |
| And that explains this current state of South Africa in a lot of ways, right? | |
| In 2005, they did a survey of how children were punished in Africa. | |
| And they found out that 90% of the children were just beaten. | |
| Just beaten. | |
| And the beatings were carried out by largely the mothers in a seven to one ratio. | |
| Roughly the ratio of fatherless to fathered households. | |
| It's like, right, okay, so. | |
| And this is a common thing. | |
| Anyone who's been to Africa and traveled around Africa will give you the same report. | |
| Essentially, they just all use punishment. | |
| Any infraction the child has committed, the child gets a beating, right? | |
| And in fact, by the way, it's broadly the same here. | |
| In the African Caribbean community, here has by far the highest rate of fatherlessness in the households. | |
| These are the Asian ones. | |
| They're very low. | |
| They are, if I can, for some reason, not go down. | |
| There we go. | |
| That's some. | |
| Why is that being so funny? | |
| Well, that's not scrolling properly for some reason. | |
| Right on the far right side. | |
| So there you've got the whites. | |
| So the whites and Asians are pretty much the same with that. | |
| Mostly it's apart from the gypsies, but don't worry about them. | |
| But then you get to the black Caribbean and just African households, and it's more than half of them don't have fathers in households. | |
| So it's like, right, okay, interesting. | |
| And so what do the Africans do about their wayward children? | |
| Well, as the BBC tells us, the African parents say, pick the stick that you want me to use to. | |
| Beat you. | |
| That's the way they're done. | |
| And we'll play a bit of this because it's actually really interesting. | |
| And if we'd have a very candid conversation, then I would think about. | |
| And she was like, you know what? | |
| Today, this is the day. | |
| She like kicks her slipper into her hand and she's like, you, in Swahili, it says, and I'll beat you, like you. | |
| Over here, we're not doing this, right? | |
| So I'm like, all right then, let's go. | |
| Like, you're gonna do it. | |
| And we were like running. | |
| Mind you, my mom used to play a lot of sports. | |
| She used to play basketball, all this stuff. | |
| So we're on the table doing these ones, like across the table from each other. | |
| And I like managed to like run away and run up the stairs. | |
| And she's at the bottom of the stairs. | |
| So I'm like, ah, I made it. | |
| And I'm running up the stairs. | |
| And she takes her slipper and throws it. | |
| Up the stairs without missing a beat, and it just knocks me in the back of my head. | |
| I mean, that's hilarious, but there was another one where I think it was this one actually. | |
| I actually wanted us to. | |
| or none of that. | |
| I don't know. | |
| They never did that, but I think it's probably because for them, they just disciplined with love. | |
| But I think the other aspect is probably because, like I said, being raised by a village, my aunts, my uncles, some of them, they are the ones who would give us the beatings. | |
| I had an aunt, for example. | |
| I loved her to bits, but man, she could do so. | |
| So she would tell you, my aunt would tell you, go and collect the stick that you want me to use to beat you. | |
| And of course, you don't want to. | |
| So notice what she's saying there, right? | |
| Now, in England in particular, Northwest European households are very individualistic. | |
| They're what they call atomic households that have a mother, a father, and the children, and actually minimal influence. | |
| From external family relations. | |
| This is not like the Mediterranean, who have much denser, wider family relations all across the Mediterranean, in fact. | |
| And the Africans, as you can see, their view of familial and relations are literally it's a village. | |
| So, I mean, like when I was young, you know, if I did something wrong, then I'd get smacked by my dad. | |
| The idea of my aunt or uncle smacking me was pretty unthinkable. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But I mean, I knew I was going to get smacked from my dad, so, you know, it didn't really matter. | |
| But this is completely normal. | |
| No, no, the answer is that, well, why aren't the parents punishing you? | |
| You know, the parents are actually hands off here, and it's the aunts and uncles that have to smack the kids. | |
| And so it's very interesting how they've just got completely different social structures, and we don't understand them, right? | |
| We do not understand, but this is what they do in Africa. | |
| And so I guess we'll just leave that there just because, just to say, this is a really, really complex social problem that is just never going to be solved. | |
| Because essentially, what we would have to admit is that different kinds of communities have different expectations of the world around them. | |
| Think about it this way the benefit system here enables the atomization of households for the recipients of benefits. | |
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Social Structure Incongruence
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| Yes. | |
| The internal wiring demands being raised by a village. | |
| Exactly. | |
| There is this incongruence that happens, and the result of that is the scenes that you get in Clapham. | |
| Precisely. | |
| That is precisely it. | |
| We are expecting them to live. | |
| Like us, when they have a wholly different expectation of how they should be living. | |
| Yeah, it doesn't work. | |
| Anyway, let's move on. | |
| Who knew that man made horrors beyond our comprehension refer directly to other people instead of technological terrors? | |
| Good point. | |
| And as I said yesterday, the crowd controlling this horde is actually incredibly simple. | |
| I have them all follow me out there, and well, no. | |
| But I saw a bunch of Africans posting, well, if this was happening in Nigeria or whatever, they'd just shoot them. | |
| It's like, well, yeah, I could have found examples of that, actually, but I didn't. | |
| Anyway. | |
| All right, we're going to delve into the mind of the Quaritch philosopher. | |
| Rory Stewart. | |
| The Quaritch philosopher, essentially. | |
| Part of the biggest political podcast in Britain. | |
| And also the most correct man who's ever made a prediction. | |
| There's a weird lack of shame and contrition on the part of Rory Stewart, really, because he kept making these rock solid predictions. | |
| And every single one of them. | |
| 100%. | |
| The complete opposite. | |
| It's like, Rory, you are radicalized by your social media bubble, my friend. | |
| Crazy. | |
| Actually, crazy. | |
| But first, there's a Lotus Eaters live event at the time of recording this next week. | |
| Yeah, next weekend, isn't it? | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| At the Mecca in Swindon. | |
| I'm going to be there. | |
| At the bar. | |
| We're all going to be there. | |
| I'm not going to be part of it. | |
| I'm just going to be at the bar. | |
| So if you want to buy me a beer, then hop on down. | |
| I'm just soliciting beers. | |
| To be honest. | |
| You know, watch it. | |
| Come on down, watch it. | |
| It's going to be good fun. | |
| All right. | |
| It's going to be really, really good fun. | |
| And if you like those kind of events, you've got to go and support them because they don't happen without your support. | |
| So super important. | |
| Anyway, this mouse is working. | |
| Right. | |
| So, like I said, we're just going to delve into the mind of Rory Stewart here. | |
| God, Rory Stewart and the also most correct and smartest man in the world, Ollie Dugmore, is that? | |
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Channeling Boy Competitiveness
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| Yeah. | |
| Yeah, for the new statesman and the new society. | |
| So, there's so much you can pull from this. | |
| It's truly fascinating. | |
| Yeah, I actually had a lot more time stamps, but obviously we can't get through it all. | |
| It's a really long interview, hour and 10 minutes. | |
| And if you're going to dissect it and do commentary, my God, it's hard. | |
| So, we're just over to the lads. | |
| We're just going to listen to this. | |
| I want to circle back to what you were saying about the idea of what it meant to be a boy and a man. | |
| And if we could. | |
| Just talk about that in the present day, what you think it does mean to be a boy, to be a man in 2026 in Britain? | |
| Well, I think that we were talking just before we came on air with this amazing Louis Theroux documentary on the manosphere, where he's interviewing male influencers, projecting a particular vision, kind of Andrew Tate masculinity. | |
| And of course, I've got two sons, so I've been trying to get my head around this. | |
| I think there seems to be, on a sort of rough population basis, biological differences in terms of male testosterone, aggression, competitiveness, appetite for risk, particularly with young men. | |
| And I think it's important to bring up boys and educate them in a way that recognizes that, roughly on average, they're a bit different to girls. | |
| Oh, wow. | |
| I mean. | |
| Been very moved by teachers. | |
| I was talking to a teacher in the state system recently who was talking in a very funny way about what it's like having 15, 16 year old boys in your class and the kind of things they get up to and the sort of tolerance you need to have for the madness of what people can do. | |
| And I do feel that is quite important, which is how do you celebrate aggressiveness but not violence? | |
| How do you celebrate risk taking but not violence? | |
| Careless irresponsibility. | |
| How do you celebrate competitiveness which isn't belittling other people? | |
| I mean, I feel like this is already a pretty solid foreshadowing for some of the stuff that. | |
| So, thoughts? | |
| What a completely trite and trivial observation, Rory. | |
| And the fact. | |
| Boys and girls are different. | |
| Largely, maybe different. | |
| Yeah, largely. | |
| On average, in general, without getting too specific. | |
| The fact that he says it with such hesitation and fearfulness. | |
| I'm approaching a really controversial subject here. | |
| Exactly. | |
| He's terrified. | |
| You're not ready for this take. | |
| He's really terrified of what was going to be said about him. | |
| Yes. | |
| In response to this. | |
| So. | |
| Guardian headline Rory Stewart says men and women are different. | |
| He's a conservative MP. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Oh, shoot, there's a super chat. | |
| What the hell is he saying? | |
| Water is wet. | |
| It's like, yes. | |
| That's exactly the incredible incisive commentary he has on that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So, I mean, this is a good intro to what we're dealing with here on this segment. | |
| But if you notice how he framed it, he left it open to being able to say, but some men, but some women can have penises. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Sure. | |
| He's on a broad, hard boundary. | |
| Exactly. | |
| If you parse what he's saying, he's leaving the possibility open. | |
| Yeah, I mean, there are some women with penises, you know, a very small minority, as Keir Starmer said, but they exist and we should respect that. | |
| So it's. | |
| But also, he's also acting as if he's broaching some dark and undiscovered continent. | |
| Yes. | |
| Yes. | |
| It's like, yeah, well, we've recently found, actually. | |
| And the question was, what does it mean to grow up as a boy in Britain? | |
| We need to find a way for boys to channel their competitiveness. | |
| That's not bad. | |
| It's like, yes, it's called rugby. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Exactly. | |
| You would have played in the posh school you went to when you were a boy, and I'm sure you loved rugby. | |
| Look at your frame. | |
| I'm sure you absolutely loved a bit of rugger. | |
| You know, like, Rory, we know all of this. | |
| This is time tested. | |
| You went to school where men and women, boys and girls did different sports, and the girls played hockey, and you played rugby. | |
| Like, just like I didn't play it in such a nice school, but like, just like I did when I was at school, so you did when you were at school. | |
| This is not something that, oh, well, we need to figure out what we can do for men and women and boys and girls to foster their different natures. | |
| No, this was so, so obviously well understood just 50 years ago. | |
| Not even. | |
| Somebody should ask him if we need finishing schools for girls or something like that. | |
| He loses my. | |
| I'm totally for it, though. | |
| I'm totally for segregated education. | |
| They learn differently. | |
| Anyway, let's carry on. | |
| Oh, yes. | |
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Animosity Toward Islam
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| It's amazing. | |
| It's a treasure trove, right? | |
| Honestly, it really is. | |
| It really is. | |
| You used the phrase there political evil, extreme political evil. | |
| Just pause a second. | |
| Are you going to mention how. | |
| It's the solemnness. | |
| Yeah, I know. | |
| It's so funny. | |
| That he's approaching. | |
| Well, I mean, we said this. | |
| Polly, Pratt, I know you grew up in the Blairite education system. | |
| I know you didn't go to a private school. | |
| Stop putting on this affectation. | |
| It's so prepared. | |
| Sorry, sorry. | |
| I'm speaking about something so profound. | |
| Yes, gather around audience. | |
| So, talking about political evil, it stuck with me. | |
| Where do you, if you're looking around the world now, where do you see that finding its expression? | |
| How would you apply it to our modern moment? | |
| Well, the word evil means many, many different things. | |
| But for me, one of the most fundamental aspects is carelessness. | |
| That it's a reckless. | |
| Hold on. | |
| That's actually not what evil means. | |
| Firstly, these are two completely different categories. | |
| He's broaching it from the perspective of I need to broad stroke the definition here so no one can sort of paint me into one little box. | |
| I need to say that there's loads of meanings, but there's just this one that I'm going to focus in on. | |
| But then, when it comes to carelessness, does being careless about the future of your own people count as evil? | |
| That should be a question. | |
| Well, no, the reason, aha, right. | |
| Now, this is a great point. | |
| The reason that we don't. | |
| Think of these people as evil, and it's only like you know, people online who are very concerned about this thing, right? | |
| It's because evil fundamentally is about intentionality, right? | |
| You have to think and will something to be done to someone, so carelessness can never be evil as it would be defined in any normal sense of run over a hedgehog that you're not evil, exactly, it didn't mean to do it, right? | |
| And and so you can accidentally do these things. | |
| Don't get me wrong when you're oh no, I'm so sorry, I didn't mean to do that, right? | |
| Or if you are evil, go haha, I didn't mean to do that, but but but the act itself wasn't evil because it wasn't intentional. | |
| This is why murder and manslaughter are two different categories. | |
| Precisely. | |
| Precisely. | |
| Right? | |
| So, like, you say, well, evil could be carelessness. | |
| No, it couldn't. | |
| It actually couldn't. | |
| The one thing it couldn't actually be, you've hit on wreath. | |
| There's a thing you chose. | |
| Casual disregard for consequences. | |
| Now, that could lead us in our own private lives. | |
| You know, the way we treat a romantic partner, just causing chaos, sleeping with lots of people, not carrying the misery it causes them, right? | |
| Or it could be what I see in Donald Trump, which is. | |
| So, sorry, sorry. | |
| We've gone from being sleeping around to Donald Trump. | |
| So, we've gone from Peter Mandelson to Donald Trump, and they both sort of sleep around, but slightly differently. | |
| I mean, one of them actually is evil. | |
| A whimsical, complete disregard for thinking through consequences. | |
| In this case, he gets out of bed in the morning and he thinks, ah, Israel's going to bomb them anyway, and, you know, why don't I join in and we'll bomb Iran? | |
| Jesus. | |
| And given the Game of Thrones. | |
| He upends. | |
| That's anti Semitic, man. | |
| All the economies of the Gulf. | |
| I mean, UAE Dubai will struggle to recover in the next 10 years from what he's done. | |
| He has driven up oil prices. | |
| He's crippled the economies of Europe. | |
| He will mean that very poor farmers in Sub Saharan Africa, Latin America, will not be able to access fertilizer because he's driven up the oil price. | |
| He has unleashed misery on Iran itself. | |
| And my guess is he just doesn't care. | |
| And so for me, evil in Trump is just a sort of sense of a sort of slick, charming recklessness. | |
| Right. | |
| So it's not evil. | |
| I'm not saying it's not bad. | |
| Obviously, it's bad. | |
| We've got many criticisms of Trump's Iran war. | |
| It's ridiculous. | |
| And of course, the things we're already saying here yes, these knock on effects will be. | |
| Correct. | |
| But if it's done through recklessness and carelessness, it's not evil. | |
| It's a different category. | |
| It's hubris, it's pride, it's all kinds of other things. | |
| And in some way, it's actually worse, right? | |
| Because evil at least means you have regard from the person acting upon you rather than irrelevance. | |
| What's the quote from that Street Fighter movie? | |
| For you, it was the most important day of your life, but for me, it was a Tuesday. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That's worse in a way because at least if Sauron's trying to kill you or take your village, at least you're like, I'm important Sauron. | |
| I'm at least someone who gets recognition of the importance of me. | |
| No, for Donald Trump, it's irrelevant. | |
| Okay, bad, but it's not evil. | |
| It's just something else. | |
| Also, I mean, what he's highlighting there is the world's reliance on other people. | |
| So, well, actually, you need to get down to like anyone who has an issue with what Donald Trump has done fundamentally, you need to look. | |
| You can have your issues with it for sure. | |
| But, like Britain, for instance, we're suggesting that, oh, so our stability hinges on someone else. | |
| Okay, exactly. | |
| But that's actually a failing of us and our leaders. | |
| It's a failure. | |
| It's not a failure of Trump. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Trump is in control of America. | |
| You can have your criticisms of him, and they're fair. | |
| But you also have to be well aware that each nation state should be completely independent and not reliant on others. | |
| Otherwise, it is a failure. | |
| And if you're not, you should expect things like this to end up happening. | |
| Exactly. | |
| So it's just, honestly, there's so many interesting things in this. | |
| I just tried to do like the highlight. | |
| Yeah, yeah, okay. | |
| So we are dipping around and here and there. | |
| This one in particular is. | |
| Before we begin, just Ollie. | |
| Everything about Ollie, as if I'm in the presence of a profound thinker. | |
| No, no. | |
| It's also that he is profound as well. | |
| He's asking such. | |
| Deep question. | |
| Yes. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yes. | |
| I tried to include him specifically because I knew. | |
| I do like Ollie. | |
| It's just, I like laughing at him. | |
| I'm interested in how. | |
| I feel like there is an understanding that's characterized by empathy that actually is an understanding of that world. | |
| And when I look across national British political discourse, I cite some recent examples, whether it's. | |
| Nick Timothy saying that Muslims praying in Trafalgar Square during Ramadan is some kind of act of domination, whether it's reform, other parties on the radical right in Britain pledging to do things like banning the birth, essentially the way that I think much of our politics engages with Muslims and Islam is a bigoted one. | |
| And whilst there are obvious downsides and consequences, not least for Muslims living in Britain, for that, there is now increasingly, I think, in the explicit national interest, in this instance, in foreign policy, that ignorance. | |
| Means that the West's activity in Iran, if it was more characterized by intelligence and understanding of empathy, it seems to me that our national interest might be better served. | |
| And I would just kind of invite your reflections on that culture, on that, the sort of animosity that exists in much of our politics towards people of this faith, people of this religion that live here. | |
| Yeah, I think we've got to be very clear. | |
| Is he saying that we should be pandering to Muslims more than we already do for the national interest? | |
| Yeah, because of foreign. | |
| Yeah, because we've got too many here. | |
| And so for foreign geopolitics, I'll focus on foreign geopolitics. | |
| I mean, Keir Starmer literally said they were the face of modern Britain. | |
| That's the suggestion that he's making, basically. | |
| But that's not enough. | |
| Apparently not. | |
| I mean, that's not enough. | |
| How much more pandering can you get? | |
| You haven't heard the reply yet. | |
| Okay, okay, sorry, God. | |
| That this is basically racism. | |
| I mean, essentially. | |
| The AFD in Germany, or the far right in Britain, or all those people on social media who are talking about Judeo Christian values and saying, I've got nothing against people of color, I just don't like Islam, are basically racist. | |
| I mean, essentially, what they're trying to do is drive hundreds of thousands, millions of people out of their country. | |
| I mean, the AFD, some of their leadership are very clear about it. | |
| They talk about remigration. | |
| You're a Muslim, you're going to be shoved out of Germany. | |
| And it's the most amazing. | |
| Nonsense. | |
| I mean, this idea that somehow Islam itself is a kind of inherently bad religion and other religions are sort of inherently good is completely demented. | |
| I mean, the whole world history is littered with Christians doing horrible things, Buddhists doing. | |
| I mean, you really want to see madness. | |
| I mean, even Buddhism has a kind of radical. | |
| French Hindu nationalists doing bad things, right? | |
| Religious Zionists in Israel doing horrible things. | |
| All of them, if you're an extremist, appealing to some weird scriptural justification. | |
| But the point is that the extremism precedes the scriptural justification. | |
| It's not driven by the scriptural justification. | |
| This same Islam, and I've spent a lot of my life living in Muslim countries. | |
| I grew up partly in Malaysia, I lived in Afghanistan, I lived in Iraq, I lived in Pakistan. | |
| My lived experience is of. | |
| Extremely generous, dignified, thoughtful, empathetic societies which don't begin to resemble the kind of ideas that white non Muslims develop. | |
| Okay, okay, okay, right. | |
| This is amazing because what Rory is arguing for here is ethnic segregation along racial and religious lines, right? | |
| Because he's like, oh, I grew up in Pakistan, yes, where everyone is a Pakistani and the Christian minority is being persecuted out of existence. | |
| I grew up in Afghanistan, where everyone is a Muslim and an Afghan and they have a particular settlement. | |
| That is essentially just unchallengeable. | |
| Like, what could you go to Afghanistan or Pakistan and start proselytizing another religion? | |
| It's probably illegal. | |
| It is. | |
| It's controlled by the Taliban. | |
| By law, you can get arrested for taking Bibles into the country. | |
| And he's just like, yeah. | |
| And so everyone was very kind and generous because the settlement was you do things our way and therefore we can afford to be kind and generous. | |
| And now we've brought in millions of people from a radically different faith who have a radically different worldview. | |
| And everyone's like, Christ, they're changing everything. | |
| We're not happy with the way things are. | |
| And he's like, well, I just don't understand. | |
| They're just racists. | |
| Yeah, they're just racists. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Give me a second. | |
| The point that he makes about the scripture not driving this is utter nonsense. | |
| It was precisely the nature of Islamic scripture that led Islam to reject philosophy. | |
| That rejection of philosophy is what led to the extreme legalism, to the thoughtlessness behind Islam, to the idea that the word of God is a stone tablet rather than something that is alive. | |
| It derives precisely from the scriptures. | |
| And if you look at the history of Islam, it's littered with this stuff. | |
| It keeps on happening. | |
| You keep on getting these movements that are saying you're not Muslim enough, you need to be more Muslim. | |
| And the way to make you do that is to kill you until you change your mind. | |
| So just a quick thing on this, right? | |
| That is explicitly the reason that we are plagued with such radical forms of Islam now. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Established in northern India as a reaction to the British Empire spreading its Enlightenment values. | |
| Same with the Salafists in Saudi Arabia, an explicit reaction to Napoleon and the other Enlightenment radicals coming and spreading their philosophy. | |
| This is just not true, Rory. | |
| It's just not true. | |
| Also, his statement of, well, my lived experience. | |
| Yeah, okay, sure. | |
| Rory Stewart turned up in a Pakistani village and they were kind to him. | |
| Yes, I would expect that, Rory. | |
| Were you a 12 year old girl? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, his lived experience to him. | |
| Supersedes the entire English lived experience where we've had to live amongst these people for quite some time and we've had enough. | |
| Why do you think this has come up, Rory? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Our lived experience is not a pleasant one, mate. | |
| We don't want one here. | |
| No one's being like, oh, the Chinese are such a problem, right? | |
| Because little Chinese people are running corner shops, Chinese takeaways. | |
| No one has a problem with them. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, a lot that fueled Brexit was a lot of the Polish. | |
| We had a lot of problems with Polish people. | |
| People forget that. | |
| Yes. | |
| And no disrespect to Polish people. | |
| I've met many of you and you're absolutely brilliant. | |
| But we did have a big issue with Polish people here. | |
| And that is often forgotten now, but that was one of the large driving factors of Brexit. | |
| Yes. | |
| So, it's very selective for a reason. | |
| Farage got in trouble saying there were going to be loads of Romanians coming over. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Right? | |
| Because do we actually want loads of Romanians coming? | |
| We've got loads of problems with Albanians right now. | |
| Is it racist? | |
| I mean, I guess Roy Stewart would say yes. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, yeah, exactly. | |
| For him, the idea of racism is predicated on rejecting the blank slate. | |
| Yes. | |
| If you accept the reality that different groups of people are genuinely different and that it's a good thing, That they're different, and that's part of God's plan. | |
| And we can't have diversity without it, Rory. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Exactly, yeah. | |
| If you accept that diversity is real, that there is genuine human diversity, then the conclusion is well, you must be racist. | |
| But at the same time, you must safeguard the peculiarities of Pakistani culture or of, you know, some weird native Indian tribe or what have you. | |
| So it's an entirely incoherent position that is predicated on blank slatism and that everybody is exactly the same. | |
| And I mean, again, his entire statement is you must like Islam. | |
| Yeah, basically. | |
| It's like you can't have an issue with that as an ideology. | |
| I mean, that's a nonsense. | |
| And no one's saying there are kind people in Islam. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| But not even that they're necessarily outliers, right? | |
| So I imagine if you go to almost any Muslim country, yeah, the Muslims will probably be nice enough. | |
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Universally Wrong Ideologies
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| Oh, yeah. | |
| Right? | |
| You will be met with hospitality, you will be met with respect. | |
| But the minute you transgress certain lines, exactly. | |
| That stops. | |
| They're operating in a different way. | |
| And this is normal. | |
| Yes. | |
| Yeah, yeah, absolutely. | |
| And this is normal for everybody else, including Europeans, Rory. | |
| Any culture. | |
| Actually, you go to any culture, literally anywhere. | |
| Yeah, literally any culture, you break their cultural norms, you're probably going to end up being arrested. | |
| Go to China and tell them that they should, that they have yellow supremacy. | |
| Good luck with that. | |
| I'd probably say yes. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Just chat, yes. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Exactly. | |
| There's a little bit more of his response, which we'll listen to, then we'll get on to the last one. | |
| And it's partly just pure ignorance. | |
| It's not very different from the kind of way that, well, our experience, I suppose, with other forms of racism. | |
| That the kind of ways that people thought about black people when they hadn't met any black people, or the kind of ways that people thought about people who were gay until they actually had some gay friends. | |
| I mean, a lot of it is simply that they just don't know any Muslims, right? | |
| They don't understand the lived experience of it, they don't understand. | |
| We do, mate. | |
| That. | |
| Okay. | |
| For the sake of time, can we just get to that? | |
| All right. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Sorry. | |
| Sorry. | |
| Honestly, Rory. | |
| I know. | |
| I know. | |
| And so then there was this one, which I found this is our final one. | |
| It was about you and it was about Mitt Romney. | |
| And it said that you'd been proven right on most things, but that you didn't have the fibre of a national political leader or something. | |
| And I thought it was so. | |
| It was Jananganesh. | |
| And it was so interesting about what it revealed about our society that someone can give an incredibly appreciative contribution about the need to increase defence spending in Britain. | |
| But at the end of the day, if you're not prepared to make an intervention on. | |
| The Prince Andrew scandal, or whatever, then it's your sort of politics doesn't reward you for being right. | |
| Right. | |
| It's not how politics works. | |
| It doesn't also, I mean, I've been wrong about lots of things too. | |
| That's true. | |
| And it doesn't necessarily particularly punish you for being wrong. | |
| I mean, it's a, it's, it also finds it very difficult to accept that all you can hope for from a politician is that they're trying to learn and that there's some humility and they're trying to be a bit more right than wrong. | |
| But What I notice is the right and the far right and the Brexit right have this amazing current tendency, having been catastrophically wrong in their decision to pursue Brexit, which I think the majority of the British people now accept they screwed. | |
| That was a stupid decision. | |
| Catastrophically wrong in their flirtation with Trump. | |
| Their vulnerability they exposed to US tech. | |
| Catastrophically wrong in the way that they managed immigration in the British economy after 2017. | |
| And yet, their brilliant trick is to suggest that the liberal center have no judgment, are universally wrong about everything. | |
| I'll just stop it there. | |
| You are universally wrong about everything. | |
| Literally, the metaphysic of what a human being is, you're wrong about. | |
| None of those things were done by the right or the far right. | |
| They were done by the Libtard Center Cameronite Conservatives. | |
| I know. | |
| That you were a part of. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That you actually do represent in your opinions. | |
| This is mental. | |
| I know, genuine. | |
| Inside the mind. | |
| Is it fascinating, right? | |
| Actually fascinating. | |
| It's like the mind of a child. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| A really serious child, though. | |
| Yes. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Serious child. | |
| Yes. | |
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Trump's Off Ramp Strategy
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| How much he speaks for himself. | |
| He loved being told he was right, though. | |
| He was loving it. | |
| It's quiet, please. | |
| But even he couldn't let that stand. | |
| Yes. | |
| Well, I've been wrong about a lot, too. | |
| Thankfully. | |
| That guy's a disaster. | |
| Okay. | |
| Honestly, can't be dealing with it. | |
| Anyway, let's just move on for the sake of time. | |
| Sorry. | |
| Some chats. | |
| Okay, so before we delve into Iran, a quick reminder that we are having a live event on the 11th of April, and apparently I'm moderating a debate about Star Wars. | |
| Yes. | |
| Do you know about Star Wars? | |
| I know that I hate them all equally. | |
| There we go. | |
| That's why you're the perfect moderator. | |
| Fine, fine. | |
| So let's sort of get started. | |
| Trump offered the Iranians a very veiled and confused ceasefire because he said that the regime is begging for a ceasefire, which. | |
| We'll get to that in a second. | |
| But that was conditional on opening the Strait of Hormuz, which remains blockaded by the Iranians, who are actually in full control of it, as we will see in a second. | |
| Also, there isn't a new regime president. | |
| It's the same president, and the new leader is the son of the old leader who was killed in an airstrike, along with his granddaughter and the guy's wife, and so on. | |
| So it really wasn't working. | |
| I'm sure he's totally less radicalized. | |
| Yes, I think that was a de radicalizing experience. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| But the IRGC quickly said that we're not opening the Strait of Hormuz and you are engaged in ridiculous theatrics, which pretty much didn't do the talks any good. | |
| And then, according to the Times of Israel, the Iranians went ahead and fired the largest missile salvo from the first couple of days of the war. | |
| Meaning that the Iranians still have effective command and control, that they can coordinate their strikes, and they're still coordinating them with Hezbollah. | |
| Meaning that when the diplomats of Iran sensed that there was some weakness on the part of the states, because that's how they read the fake ceasefire offer, they got the military to act in a coordinated manner, meaning that the attacks on the missile cities that the Iranians have. | |
| We're not as effective as advertised. | |
| That's an accurate reading, though, right? | |
| Because what Trump is doing with that statement is trying to give them an off ramp. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Because it's been apparent that this was very poorly planned. | |
| Yes. | |
| Dragged into it by Netanyahu and Israel. | |
| Yes. | |
| And it's deeply, deeply unpopular, literally everywhere other than the MAGA base. | |
| Yes. | |
| Everything's. | |
| And a small section of the MAGA base that is still watching Fox News. | |
| Yes. | |
| It still has high ratings, but in the grand scheme of things. | |
| Trump's approval is at the lowest it's ever been. | |
| We'll get to that in a second. | |
| Yes. | |
| So, I mean, the Iranians do this regularly. | |
| When Trump fired John Bolton in 2019, if you remember, the Iranians smelled weakness. | |
| And what did they do? | |
| They attacked Saudi Arabian energy. | |
| And here they smelled weakness and that Trump was trying to give them a way out. | |
| They doubled down because they don't actually want a ceasefire right now. | |
| The Iranians, I think it's important to remember, have had this bunker mentality since the revolution. | |
| Yes. | |
| And they've been planning for this since the 90s. | |
| Yeah, I bet a load of them are actually really excited it's finally happening. | |
| The IRGC looked like they are. | |
| The IRGC looked like they are. | |
| Some of the political leadership, they don't want the destruction. | |
| That's normal. | |
| And so Trump says that actually the objectives are nearly complete. | |
| Why are they firing the biggest salvo in Israel if the objectives are complete? | |
| Netanyahu had said the day before that actually, so two days before, he said that 50% of the objectives were complete. | |
| And then the next day before Trump began signaling that he wanted an off ramp, He said, Well, actually, Iran is no longer an existential threat. | |
| So we've solved the problem. | |
| Brilliant. | |
| And the reply from the Iranians was the biggest salvo of missiles almost since the start of the war. | |
| I mean, there's never seemingly been a clear objective, to be fair. | |
| Yeah, I was concerned. | |
| And it seems to change the goalposts and move consistently nearly within, it's not even just day by day, but literally within a day, the goalposts seem to be changed. | |
| And here's the thing the fact is that the objective has now become to open the Strait of Hormuz. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That's what the objective became. | |
| The objective is to return to the state of play before the war. | |
| Let's get back to the status quo. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Exactly. | |
| And the reaction from the Americans is we're going to bomb it onto the Stone Age. | |
| Now, let me explain this in sort of how this works. | |
| When these wars start, the Americans and the Israelis have what they call a target bank, which is the military objectives that they want to destroy in order to stop the enemy from fighting back. | |
| This has happened in the past. | |
| Where the target bank is depleted because everything in it has been bombed, but the intended result, which is stopping the enemy from fighting back, hasn't been achieved. | |
| And when that happens, the next step is to start bombing civilian and mixed use infrastructure, like power and energy and things of that nature. | |
| Surely their oil producing capacity is going to be next. | |
| So, but that means that the Gulf's oil producing capacity will also be next. | |
| Iranians will just nuke, not nuke, but bomb that. | |
| Exactly. | |
| So, this is where this is going. | |
| Right. | |
| Wasn't this talk of wiping out the grid as well, which would take like 10 years or so to rebuild? | |
| There's been some power outages already. | |
| There was talk of them completely obliterated. | |
| Exactly. | |
| So, But the Gulf relies on power and desalination plants that are integrated. | |
| Meaning that if they knock out the power, they knock out the desalination. | |
| Meaning that life in the Gulf as we know it in the modern era reverts back to the pre modern era. | |
| All of those Gulf states are using desalination plants for water, aren't they? | |
| So Kuwait is 90%, Saudi is something like 60%, 70%, UAE, 80%, 90%, et cetera. | |
| Because they live in a desert. | |
| Because they live in a desert. | |
| Exactly. | |
| That's the next step, the exchange of war crimes. | |
| That's the next step in the war. | |
| And you know that the Iranians are going to be able to target these assets in the Gulf and collapse it. | |
| And now they're inserting themselves into American politics and backing the No Kings protests. | |
| Capitalizing on the fact that Trump's popularity is crashing. | |
| Are you trying to say the Iranians gone woke? | |
| No, in their own weird way. | |
| They know these divisions and they play them. | |
| I wouldn't call this woke. | |
| This is just mimetic warfare. | |
| Exactly. | |
| The Iranians. | |
| They're not stupid. | |
| They know the fractures and cleavages in American society and they're just exploiting them. | |
| Which is why they keep saying that this is a war against the Epstein class. | |
| This is the problem that Trump has. | |
| He doesn't understand the fractures and cleavages in Iranian society. | |
| He was like, right, if I take out the Ayatollah, you're all going to rise up, right? | |
| It's like, no. | |
| They reunited around his son. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| Having been deeply divided. | |
| And the fact that the opening strike involved murdering children in a girls' school and the fact that they are now bombing pharmaceutical plants in Iran, which have no connection to the war effort. | |
| As part of bringing it to the Stone Age, is only going to rally the public and radicalize them. | |
| The reality is that the Iranians are in full control of Hormuz and they are charging ships to be able to pass, and the Chinese are paying because the payments are being made in Chinese yuan. | |
| So, the people that actually are this war is supposed to, you know, in the 4D chess theories, this is a war that is supposed to hurt China. | |
| No, no, the Chinese are getting what they need. | |
| Also, $1 a barrel doesn't seem that unreasonable. | |
| No. | |
| It's like $100 a barrel or whatever. | |
| Okay, well, you've got to pay a $1 transport fee. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That's not that much. | |
| It really isn't. | |
| It really isn't. | |
| And, you know, they get to verify which ships are allowed to go through. | |
| And if there's any connection to the US or Israel, they say, no, you're not allowed to pass. | |
| And now they're offering apparently the Europeans a deal. | |
| I saw that. | |
| To allow them to get their oil out. | |
| Again, like, that's clever, you know. | |
| Whether you like the Iranians or not, and I don't like the Iranians, the Mullahs anyway, like, you can't deny that they've played this well. | |
| They're playing this quite well. | |
| Their country's being destroyed and they're not giving up. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You know. | |
| And the thing is that the economy won't survive this. | |
| Yeah. | |
| There's, I mean, the bet. | |
| We can tell. | |
| Exactly. | |
| We're living in it. | |
| Exactly. | |
| The bet that Trump is making is that with another two or three weeks of additional bombing, he's going to break the will of the Iranian leadership. | |
| What's an LNG tanker? | |
| Liquefied natural gas. | |
| So because the Nord Stream was blown up by the United States, Europe depends on Qatari LNG to a much higher degree, and that is sent by ship. | |
| Thank God we're going into summer. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But the thing is, over summer, typically what Europe does is maximize the buildup of reserves, and the reserves are at historic lows so that they can overconsume in winter. | |
| Get a wood burner, everyone. | |
| So get essentially. | |
| Genuinely, get a wood burner. | |
| That's where we're going. | |
| Good. | |
| And you can see what this is doing to Trump's popularity because it's fallen to less than 40%. | |
| He's losing the moderates. | |
| He's losing the independents. | |
| He's losing the center. | |
| He's losing the people who delivered him the White House. | |
| And that's the thing, not just. | |
| Honestly, a lot of MAGA people just refuse to accept that Trump's victory is a coalition between you guys and the independents. | |
| Exactly. | |
| And exactly. | |
| So, if you want to win the midterms, you've got to have the independents. | |
| And the independents were won over by the idea of America first. | |
| Yep. | |
| Whereas Biden was fighting a Ukraine first policy. | |
| And now you're fighting an Israel first policy. | |
| And now you're in the Israel first gap. | |
| Just to play devil's advocate ever so slightly, I guess, for Trump and stuff. | |
| He has been quite smart when he. | |
| Truth social message that he put out to Lambass, the UK. | |
| Yes. | |
| He did, however, suggest that we could buy jet fuel from America. | |
| So he's, there's somewhat an element of a tactic there, it seems, a strategy. | |
| Yep. | |
| Just to believe he was advocate. | |
| So maybe, but Europe is getting to a desperate position. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Diesel prices are going through the roof, which all transport depends on diesel. | |
| You can't do it by electric. | |
| A lot of this is still self inflicted by respect of not buying anything. | |
| I'm going to get to that. | |
| Okay, all right, fine. | |
| This is like European policy itself is stupid and evil. | |
| And they wouldn't be in that position had they not been a bunch of morals. | |
| Are you saying they're being careless? | |
| No, no, I think in this thing, it's deliberately destruction. | |
| They literally say it. | |
| We deliberately want to. | |
| End fossil fuels. | |
| So, no, that's an intentionality. | |
| Yes, exactly. | |
| Exactly. | |
| So, it's the highest level since the Ukraine war now. | |
| And it looks like it's going to keep on rising if this exchange of destruction of power versus energy, et cetera, keeps going. | |
| Malaysia, among a bunch of other countries like Thailand and the Philippines, are basically going into a quasi lockdown mode. | |
| This is what surprised me when. | |
| We had that announcement that yesterday there was going to be a coordinated, near coordinated statement from like three world leaders America, Australia, and then the UK. | |
| I was like, oh, what's going to happen here? | |
| But it was the most blase, vague nonsense, aside from what Australia's PM said, which was a case of, yeah, you probably should begin to knuckle down a little bit. | |
| That was the most serious out of all of them. | |
| Whereas ours was a nothing. | |
| Keir Starmer announced that there'd be tax cuts to fuel, which, I mean, obviously there shouldn't be any. | |
| But that was going to be brought in anyway. | |
| He's not initiated anything that wasn't going to happen. | |
| Keir Stammer accidentally wins again. | |
| This is what I mean. | |
| It was a non announcement because that's what all the questions were like. | |
| But you've not announced, but that's what was going to happen anyway. | |
| So should we start slowing down? | |
| And he was like, no. | |
| Should we? | |
| Because you've not said anything different now. | |
| I mean, if he had any sense, he'd be cutting taxes on the North Sea and sort of going all over in terms of doing it. | |
| Ed Miliband's in charge of that. | |
| He'd be picking up his phone, for God's sake. | |
| Exactly. | |
| So it's not the Trump is trying to say that this is going to help the American economy because everybody's going to have to buy energy from the United States. | |
| But even American consumers are going to be hit quite badly. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But also, $100 oil hurts American voters and is damaging his coalition. | |
| But I also don't think Trump has underestimated the sheer self harm Europe is willing to put themselves into by not buying anything from America. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yes, yes. | |
| And speaking of Americans, the corn growers, I mean, the corn lobby is one of the most powerful lobbies in the United States because I think 48 states of the 50 grow corn. | |
| And if they're not going to be planting as much, their pockets are going to be hit and they're going to be angry. | |
| And they are an integral part of the Trump coalition because they dominate the red states. | |
| Yeah, you can't have corn syrup in all the things you eat if you don't have the corn lobby. | |
| Yeah, well, there you go, exactly. | |
| Or ethanol, for that matter. | |
| South Korea is going crazy and saying, save every drop of fuel. | |
| We're in a desperate position. | |
| China is saying no more fertilizer exports, which is going to be a disaster. | |
| That sounds like stockpiling to then sell it higher down the line. | |
| It's a wasting tactic, isn't it? | |
| So you're making China richer. | |
| And the Russians have said the same thing. | |
| They're suspending their own exports of fertilizer and of a bunch of things. | |
| And just in case you're wondering soda bottles, peanut butter jars, sandwich bags, these guys are all getting hammered. | |
| For anyone who doesn't know, everything made of plastic comes from oil. | |
| Well, even an element of your clothing will as well. | |
| So there's going to be genuinely, it's going to have a lot of styrene everywhere. | |
| So it's hitting microchips, it's hitting clothing, it's hitting packaging, it's hitting food, it's going to hit meat prices, obviously. | |
| It's hitting fuel. | |
| There is nothing that is being spared. | |
| And the issue is does the world economy break first or do the Iranians break first? | |
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Attacks on European Security
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| And Trump is thinking, sorry, go on. | |
| I was going to say, how's this going to affect my Games Workshop stock? | |
| I have one stock. | |
| Well, I guess that's why they've decided to go, right, we're bombing back to the Stone Age. | |
| That's the point, is to break their will. | |
| We have to do this now because otherwise. | |
| These are religious zealots. | |
| You're just martyring them. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And they don't care about the suffering of their own people. | |
| And that should be set. | |
| Which has been pretty evident the whole regime. | |
| That was part of their justification for doing it in the first place. | |
| Exactly. | |
| And so now Trump has reverted to mocking the Europeans. | |
| Oh, brilliant. | |
| And attacking NATO. | |
| We've been destroying your energy supplies, destroying any of your imports. | |
| Exactly. | |
| And now we're going to call you a paper tiger. | |
| It's like, yeah. | |
| Exactly. | |
| So instead of Trump being the kind of North Star, shall we say, for a broader right wing coalition across Europe and Canada. | |
| Now we're all going to get Mark Carneyed. | |
| Great. | |
| It is, again, just to play devil's advocate ever so slightly. | |
| This is my job. | |
| Go for it. | |
| Go for it. | |
| It must be really irritating. | |
| To be the commander in chief of America, the world hegemon, have your allies that you do quite literally, you know, you shoulder their burdens. | |
| Yes. | |
| And then when you do want them to do something, they all just say no. | |
| It must be really annoying. | |
| It's embarrassing, it's frustrating. | |
| I can't help but feel that saying you're weak and we don't need your aircraft carriers anyway, that's not the most persuasive. | |
| I agree. | |
| But that, yeah, I agree. | |
| Not just that. | |
| It's sort of, you know, somebody put it as a wife threatening to leave her husband. | |
| If you're going to leave NATO, leave NATO. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| If you're going to withdraw from Europe and leave Europe to face Russia, leave. | |
| Yeah, do it. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Rip the band aid off. | |
| Just get it done. | |
| Yeah, I agree. | |
| I'm just trying to play devil advocate a little bit. | |
| And if you do that, that would help the European right. | |
| And Marco Rubio's speech in the Munich Security Conference was all about saving Western civilization. | |
| You are destroying it and you are discrediting people who agreed with you. | |
| Here's where I disagree that it will help the European right. | |
| I disagree massively. | |
| It won't help the European right. | |
| No, I don't think it will help the European right. | |
| I think what's happened, unfortunately, because I tweeted about this, I've got loads of pushback from Americans. | |
| I meant leaving NATO would have helped the European right. | |
| No, I still think all of these actions right now are some of the worst things possible for the right wing movement in Europe and Britain, because you've now just pushed. | |
| You've not necessarily pushed Keir Starmer to Europe, but what you've done is you've given political leaders the ammunition to then present to the electorate. | |
| We're going to do this now, actually. | |
| Keir Starmer. | |
| Yeah, we're going to get close ties with Europe. | |
| No one wants that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But that's his now justification. | |
| Yes. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| And it's one of the worst things possible. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| And while some of the taunts against Europe are funny, like. | |
| Sorry, just a quick thing. | |
| If we get back to that previous one, like, essentially what Trump is doing is forcing the European right to be anti American. | |
| Yes. | |
| We're going to have to now be like, no, no, we need, you know, a divorce from America. | |
| Yes. | |
| Because America is not a trustworthy partner. | |
| They do not seem to care. | |
| I mean, Trump, like, that Trump allowed Canada to go to Kearney is really stupid. | |
| Yes. | |
| Like, Poliverg isn't like some radical rightist, but having a vaguely sympathetic administration would have been far superior and destroyed the legacy of Justin Trudeau. | |
| Right. | |
| But instead, now it's confirmed it. | |
| Right. | |
| Yes. | |
| And I said this at the time Trump threatening to annex Canada was the reason that Kearney won, which was obvious. | |
| Yes. | |
| And now. | |
| It's going to be if like Keir Starmer or that sort of wing of politics win again in this country, it'll be because of Trump. | |
| He would have helped them enormously. | |
| Unbelievable. | |
| Like, it's really stupid. | |
| Why is it so short sighted? | |
| And then being like, oh, but no one will come to my aid. | |
| It's like, yeah, but you know these people hate you and you've just secured their position in their own domains rather than creating a kind of pan Western right wing that actually would have come to your assistance because it would have been on your side. | |
| He's validated their position. | |
| Exactly. | |
| And he's forcing all of us to be like, okay, no, we're against you because I'm totally against what he's doing here. | |
| This has been a boondoggle at very best. | |
| It's really silly. | |
| This is mad. | |
| I agree. | |
| And now he's saying, you know, as you mentioned, Nate, either you come and help us or buy oil from the United States and Venezuela and make us rich. | |
| But this is going to impoverish the American consumer because of the price of oil, and that shouldn't be forgotten. | |
| And some of the stuff about Macron is funny. | |
| Okay. | |
| He took a punch from his wife. | |
| But. | |
| The issue is that the Europeans are still going insane anyway. | |
| And now the EU Commission is saying you need to work from home, drive less, and that there has to be a faster rollout of renewables. | |
| Yeah, invalidate. | |
| As if renewables are going to solve anything. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Because for everything that you get out of wind and solar, you need to have a parallel power plant that can provide the same amount if it's cloudy and it isn't windy. | |
| Yeah, all this does is. | |
| It gives the EU and the UK justification for their green insanity. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Well, we can't rely on this. | |
| It's like. | |
| Exactly. | |
| But also, there's no way of Trump avoiding having this pinned upon him either. | |
| No. | |
| There's literally no one else to blame unless Trump wants to pass the buck to Israel, which he's never going to do. | |
| Exactly. | |
| And it should be said that the Europeans do have some oil and gas capacity and a lot of coal capacity that they're choosing not to use. | |
| Which, if they had at this time, they wouldn't be in this situation. | |
| So, nothing in this absolves European Union. | |
| No, no, of course not. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| In fact, it confirms how insane they are, but they're doubling down on renewables instead. | |
| They can gloss over that for the electorate anyway. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Because the electorate, by and large, are stupid. | |
| Sorry, can we go to the previous one? | |
| I can't help but notice that in Britain, we happen to be particularly well situated there. | |
| Ridiculously awesome. | |
| Super giants and selected giants, whatever they are. | |
| Yeah, like, you know, we've got plenty. | |
| Yes. | |
| We've got plenty. | |
| We could be fine. | |
| Yes. | |
| Britain could be exporting energy and power to Europe if it wanted to. | |
| But instead, we get Ed Miliband in this country. | |
| And, you know, China is making a killing. | |
| Of course, they are. | |
| They are selling LNG at three times the price to Japan. | |
| Brilliant. | |
| And so, if this was some kind of 5D chess move to hurt China. | |
| To enrich the Chinese. | |
| It's enriching Russia and it's enriching China. | |
| Congratulations. | |
| What are you doing here? | |
| Which is, again, something which is taken to the European electorate and saying, well, this was Trump's plan all along to help get in bed with Putin. | |
| But also to help Europe. | |
| Blowing up the Nord Stream pipeline, closing the Straits of Hormuz. | |
| You could frame this as a direct attack on Europe itself. | |
| Not to mention that if you try to send Iran to the Stone Age, the 90% of the people are going to start walking. | |
| And Turkey's going to open the border. | |
| So, if you frame this as a war to destroy Europe, that might explain why the French and the British and the Italians and the Spanish don't want anything to do with it. | |
| Because that is going to be the effect of it. | |
| And it really doesn't help that Trump is surrounded by lunatics. | |
| Yes. | |
| It really doesn't help that this creature, Paula White, is saying, You were betrayed and arrested, and you're like, Jesus. | |
| Oh, that's what happened to Jesus. | |
| And so Trump is being compared to Jesus here. | |
| Yeah, fantastic. | |
| And God is using Trump to destroy Iran. | |
| Oh, brilliant. | |
| And then you get this lunatic, Franklin Graham, talking about how this is a repeat of the book of Esther and that this is about saving the Jewish people from the evil Persians. | |
| Oh, they've come out and said it. | |
| Oh, All right, then. | |
| The Persians didn't want to kill every Jew. | |
| Let us pray. | |
| Father, you tell us in the book of Esther that the Persians, the Iranians, were wanting to kill every Jew, woman, child, and do it all in one day. | |
| But you raised up Esther to save the Jewish people. | |
| Father, we thank you. | |
| Today, the Iranians, the wicked regime of this government, wants to kill every Jew and destroy them with an atomic fire. | |
| But you have raised up President Trump. | |
| How on earth can anyone in Magad now deny when people are like, well, this is Bibi's war? | |
| When that guy's been brought to the White House and he's suggesting that. | |
| The Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ and God, has raised that President Trump to go and save all the Jews. | |
| Also, the Persians are not the people historically who were trying to destroy the Jews. | |
| It's just not true. | |
| It's just the opposite, in fact. | |
| In fact, Cyrus the Great is lauded in Judaism because he released them from the Babylonian captivity. | |
| So, yeah, no, the complete opposite way around. | |
| Yes. | |
| The Jews actually love the Persians historically. | |
| Yes. | |
| And literally praise them. | |
| And also because the Persians were very hands off when it came to religion as well. | |
| They were very. | |
| They weren't like the Assyrians who would be like, No, we're capturing your gods and raising your holy places. | |
| So here we are. | |
| But the thing is, notice what it is, right? | |
| And this is from the Europeans' perspective, the sort of secular atheist Europeans, right? | |
| What are we seeing? | |
| We're seeing lunatic religious fundamentalists, lunatic religious fundamentalists, and in the middle, lunatic religious fundamentalists firing the first missile. | |
| And it's just like, oh, brilliant. | |
| Is it like the Quranic apocalypse? | |
| Is it Amalek? | |
| Or is it the Book of Esther. | |
| Yeah, Goggle, whatever. | |
| Just like, oh my God. | |
| This has to stop. | |
| Yes. | |
| He's not helping the accusations of it. | |
| No. | |
| Well, it's Israel first, obviously. | |
| Yeah, it's not helping that, is it? | |
| Exactly. | |
| Very clearly. | |
| So. | |
| APAC's rubbing their hands right now. | |
| What are we doing here? | |
| Why is Trump trying to destroy the right? | |
| That's the question. | |
| Let's go to the video comments. | |
| Bisley Shooter says there was even a looting incident in Reading a year or two ago. | |
| Four ethnic youths stormed a small Tesco metro, helping themselves running out. | |
| Well, that kind of low level thing happens all the time. | |
| You know, like all the time. | |
| George says you can put two million more officers in Clapham and it won't change a thing, says they lack the courage to arrest blacks. | |
| Honestly, this is a massive problem. | |
| They're not allowed as well. | |
| They don't feel like they have the moral authority to police these communities. | |
| That's the fundamental issue. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Let's watch it. | |
| Members of the public in the UK seem utterly unable to stop watching the news. | |
| They know that the stories are all bad and that Mr. Trump is a horrible man, but they feel duty bound. | |
| Tune in to know what's going on in the world. | |
| The trick the mainstream media plays is in presenting the news with a dramatic flair, revealed in their voiceovers, that are delivered to stir up feelings in the audience rather than curiosity. | |
| Everyone who knew I lived in Canada had to ask me whether the Canadians liked Trump. | |
| I could only respond truthfully that they are told not to like him by the news. | |
| To be fair, he's not helping himself out, is he? | |
| Trump should have been just a thing. | |
| Trump should have been so charming to the audience. | |
| He should have been charming and he can be charming. | |
| Yes. | |
| Like an older brother. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| He could be very charming if he wanted to be. | |
| And instead, he took the complete opposite perspective. | |
| Like, do all of these things after the midterms, man. | |
| Like, spend however long, when are the midterms? | |
| This year, aren't they? | |
| This year, November. | |
| So, you know, spend like, you know, the year planning. | |
| If you want to attack Iran, I don't care. | |
| Just plan for it. | |
| Do it properly, right? | |
| I don't care if you knock off the Iranian regime. | |
| I have no sympathy for them. | |
| But just do it properly. | |
| Exactly. | |
| Don't just do it ad hoc because Israel has goaded you into it. | |
| Anyway, let's go to the next one. | |
| The Clay Mills Pump House is running this Sunday and Monday. | |
| It's in Burton on Trent. | |
| It's all volunteer run, so if you enjoyed my videos before, then get yourself down and go and support them because it's nice and tall these days. | |
| A bit much. | |
| Yeah. | |
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| Very cool. | |
| There'll be a few heritage places running this weekend, such as Leeward Pumping House. | |
| It's just too cool again. | |
| It's just too cool again. | |
| It's water from the River Derwent to the Bronxwood Canal. | |
| Shall be owned through this weekend. | |
| So get out and support your museums and your heritage. | |
| I do because my youngest son absolutely loves trains. | |
| And if Burton on Trent wasn't so bloody far away from me, I would definitely take him there because he would love to see that. | |
| But definitely support your heritage. | |
| Oh, yeah, absolutely. | |
| There was that recent Denby thing saying we're going into administration. | |
| They have gone into administration, unfortunately. | |
| Right. | |
| But that started like Denby nationalism. | |
| It's really cool. | |
| It's nice to see everyone gather around, retweet it, you know, buy stuff. | |
| I think that's brilliant. | |
| Really, really good. | |
| But yeah, the like for anyone wondering, At Didcot Parkway, they've got a nice train museum. | |
| We're not going to play this one, Samson, for reasons people will understand. | |
| Let's go to the next one. | |
| G'day, Lotus Eaters. | |
| I am dropping out of gold tier membership. | |
| I can't really justify the expense, and money's going to be a bit tight in a couple of months, if you know what I mean. | |
| For my last couple of video comments, I'm going to do something I said I would never do, and I'm going to recommend anime. | |
| And the first one I'm going to recommend is Full Metal Alchemist. | |
| Not the shitty 2005 version, I'm talking FMA Brotherhood. | |
| It is awesome. | |
| I think you'll really like it, and I think it'd be a good thing to break down on a YouTube video. | |
| I would agree with that. | |
| It is very good. | |
| Never heard of it. | |
| It's brilliant. | |
| I've heard of it, but I've never watched it. | |
| It's like an alternate reality where alchemy was a science rather than a science. | |
| Right, right. | |
| It was the science. | |
| Right. | |
| So it's quite interesting. | |
| It's brilliant. | |
| Really well written. | |
| These kids are described, the youths described in Starship Troopers. | |
| They have not been disciplined, so they have grown up still being barbarians, as that's what everyone is born as. | |
| Carrot and stick doesn't work when the carrots are guaranteed and the stick is walled off. | |
| These kids need a flogging and a job and a ticket out of the country. | |
| Yeah, that's honestly, I totally agree. | |
| Conscription does not work as a solution to this. | |
| The forces have enough to deal with without having to babysit a bunch of gobby youths with firearms. | |
| Yeah, I know. | |
| I don't really want these kids having fucking firearms. | |
| We need to stop thinking about the forces as something we've just fallen back on to clean up Birmingham's mess, cover for NHS strikes, and discipline the young with. | |
| We need to be focusing on honing themselves, closing in with, and destroying the enemy. | |
| Yeah, I know. | |
| We should have some sort of national service that they can do that is essentially digging ditches or building buildings or something. | |
| You know, anything else, really. | |
| Make Borstals great again. | |
| Yeah, no, absolutely. | |
| Funny how the government are not babbling about organizing online and trying to ban TikTok. | |
| Well, no, no, there has been talk about that, actually. | |
| You know, they're saying, oh, it's social media, but what are you going to do? | |
| Ban social media because a bunch of urban youths have coordinated? | |
| I don't know how angry people would be. | |
| Yeah, I know. | |
| It's just mental. | |
| Maybe that's exactly what should happen. | |
| Wow, yeah. | |
| Rory can't even bring himself to give Trump agency over his own stupid war. | |
| Instead, he frames it as Trump just accidentally going to war with Iran and bombing school children in Iran and accidentally threatening war crimes on Truth Social. | |
| Someone needs to slap Rory and say, Stop pretending major geopolitical decisions happen accidentally. | |
| That's a good point, honestly. | |
| This man also looks like a case study in the correlation between lack of testosterone and nervous personality disorders. | |
| Why does he look like he's working for sweats, talking at a mild volume in a quiet room? | |
| Well, there is speculation he's in bad health, actually. | |
| You see, again, you remember I said that's what he's wearing, he's got a massive jacket on. | |
| But also his posture, he's just sunk into his own chest. | |
| Maybe he's not in good health. | |
| I mean, we wish him well at the end of the day, but come on, just develop some common sense, please. | |
| Omar's got a great point here. | |
| America has an inherent disadvantage on the meme warfare front. | |
| People are always going to root for David over Goliath. | |
| The Maduro escapade was impressive because it was an unheard of military, intelligence, and logistical feat. | |
| The Iran war has the air of bullying, letting the small guy clock them across the nose. | |
| There's a lot of damage to their reputation. | |
| Yeah, Trump trying to get out of this rather than doing the job properly. | |
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| Like, sorry, mate, you're going to have to send in 100,000 men. | |
| That's what you've got to do. | |
| 20 years later, the ROGC will be ruling it out again. | |
| Sure. | |
| That's a problem. | |
| But, you know, you've got to go in there and you don't have to occupy, but you have to go in and actually root them out, like, in a really unpleasant way that's going to cost lots of lives. | |
| That's what you've committed to doing that. | |
| And if you don't do that, you're going to look weak. | |
| So, military strategists really need to make more time to understand zealots and extremists, says Arizona Desert Row. | |
| And it's like, yeah, and you would have thought they would have learned after Iraq. | |
| Yes. | |
| You would have thought. | |
| Because, I mean, I've read a bunch of books about Iraq, and one of the things, one of the themes that came, and I mean, a bunch of books from like the American military written by like, you know, generals and things. | |
| One of the themes that came out was they just didn't understand the people there. | |
| No. | |
| They just didn't understand. | |
| And you would think that lesson would have been learned. | |
| They don't have a mental map of the Muslim mind, they don't understand how it's different. | |
| Yeah, no, not at all. | |
| Anyway, right, we are out of time there, folks. | |
| So go and get your tickets to the live event and have a great day, and we'll see you tomorrow. | |