Luca, Josh, and Stelios dissect the failure of anti-racism initiatives, arguing social engineering eroded native culture while citing London's 13% immigrant population driving disproportionate knife crimes. They condemn the NDP's disastrous Winnipeg convention, where Jagmeet Singh's party lost 17 seats and incurred $13M debt amid chaotic "equity card" systems prioritizing privilege over policy. The hosts assert these policies reward victimhood, enable coordinated unrest via TikTok, and reclassify hate incidents as intelligence to silence dissent, ultimately suggesting such agendas destabilize societies rather than fostering equity. [Automatically generated summary]
Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Load Seaters, episode 1387.
I thought we were 500 ahead of what we actually are.
It was very ambitious of me.
For the 1st of April, 2026, I'm your host, Luca, joined today by Josh and Stelios.
Hello, everyone.
And on this auspicious April Fool's Day, Stelios and I are Mediterranean maxing.
We're like your Mediterranean bodyguards.
Yes.
Well, I should just take the tie off, the waistcoat.
Yeah, I should have.
We're trying to manifest the summer.
It's been.
Cold and miserable here for too long.
Yeah, well, I'll medmax another day.
Anyway, today we're going to be talking all about the anti racist action, inaction, and how actually this entire project of anti racism has not produced the results that are best for anyone involved, really.
We're then going to be talking about the British government lying to us because it's a day in a week, in a year, in the 21st century and in Britain.
So.
It's not the most unusual thing to happen, but it's something that no one else has noticed except me.
And I'm very annoyed and disappointed at everyone except me.
You're a perceptive man.
And then we're going to be talking, having some fun out.
We're talking all about the Canadian leftists of Canada getting utterly humiliated.
Yeah, not all leftists.
It's the New Democratic Party, the one that was led by Jagmeet Singh.
Okay.
Yeah, we're going to talk about them, and they have been absolutely ridiculous.
Okay, great.
And then, before we do, just a few announcements.
I have a new Chronicles out where I'm talking all about the Barkai by Euripides.
It's a fantastic play.
It's a tragedy about the birth of tragedy, about the arrival of Dionysus into Hellas, arriving in Thebes, and all of the Barkic rituals.
Dionysus is a god of theatre and wine and festival.
It's about all of these things being brought into Greek civilization and how some tragedy and fear.
Had to take place first in order to get to the good stuff.
So it's a very entertaining play, and I think you'll enjoy the analysis.
You'll also probably know by now, but I shall tell you in case you haven't got a ticket yet.
We have a live event coming up April 11th at the local Mecca in Swindon.
All of the food there.
Yeah, well, there will be beer.
There will be beer, and if there is meat, I assume it won't be a lot.
It's not that type of Mecca.
But do come and enjoy some time with us.
We'll be on stage.
We'll have a live lads hour.
We'll have some.
Good discussion, some good banter, and a lot of drinking.
What's not to love?
All right, then.
Hierarchy of Oppression Demands00:14:59
So, for as long as we've been alive, anti racism, the idea of using the institutions to socially engineer society, to basically constantly take away from the native habits, the native customs, the native culture, all of the guardrails, right, that actually made civilization homely, safe, predictable, and somewhere where you would want to be.
Bring your children up, all of these things we've seen them slowly, incrementally being taken away from us by voices who never had our own interests at heart.
Because, really, of course, anti racism really just means anti white.
That's also their efforts.
Um, I've covered this quite early on in my career like unconscious bias training actually makes people more racist, yes.
And there's actually a growing body of literature that exposure to other cultures within one's own culture makes you more racist, and this is a problem.
It's the opposite of what they're trying to do.
Yeah.
And this is a problem because we have brought in a lot of different cultures at this point, right?
And the other thing, as well, is that even if that might be what the data proves, of course, the elites are pathologically.
Committed to going down this route, even to the suicide of European civilization, right?
So they're entirely committed to it.
And whilst they babble on about foreign interference from places such as Russia, one of the things that they won't talk about when framing a discussion on foreign interference, of course, is just the day to day encroachment of foreign interference in our daily lives, in the lives of ordinary people, just going about their business.
On the streets.
And we can see here, I just wanted to open by talking about the latest exciting announcement from the European Union.
Oh, yay.
This is, as you can tell, from towards the end of March.
And they say the International Day for the Elimination of Racial Discrimination.
Racial equity is not an aspiration reserved for some, but a right guaranteed for all.
This simple principle was agreed by countries across the world when they adopted the International Convention on the Elimination of All.
Forms of racial discrimination.
Yet, six decades on, the promise remains unfulfilled.
And I would just like to point out, guys, how much money?
How much money?
How many human resources?
How much social engineering?
How much re education?
Just all of the numerous methods of control that they have tried to use in order to pivot to a more quote unquote equitable society.
It's their way of justifying their positions and all money that they take.
Europe is one of the least, perhaps the least racist continent.
Yes.
And the very fact that a debate and discussion is to be had about it suggests a level of openness to questions of this sort.
No such openness exists elsewhere.
I see the term racist as an inherently anti white term now, right?
It's just a word to keep us down and keep us in our box and allow the minorities to extract our resources.
Because that's our word.
Yes, it is.
But the whole purpose of it is just to silence white people politically so that a critical mass of minorities can come into their countries and then take over.
That's basically what it is.
It's a way of facilitating our replacement in our own countries.
Yes.
Because there's no legitimate reason to not apply the same standard across the board.
Someone being mean to you still affects you no matter what part of the world you're from.
And so the idea that.
You've got to give special treatment to all the minorities, yes, is rationally and just subjectively as well ridiculous.
And of course, as well, it sends a strong message to European peoples that they are essentially just yesterday's men.
You know, that actually we're actively working to decentralize and take out the importance of your voice in your own civilization and actually raise up the voices of people who have just arrived by any means necessary, right?
It can be from.
The most bizarre of origins, and basically say that their concerns are more important than yours.
So, the EU are going to occupy themselves with further, you know, central planning of all of these questions that they've not been able to solve for six decades, but somehow feel that they're going to solve now.
And of course, the other thing as well, though this is an article from towards the end of last year, I thought it is a significant thing to bring up, which is that Britain is becoming more racist than Mahmoud, says Shabana Mahmoud, the Home Secretary.
And I think one of the things that's important to mention here in the way that the article frames this is that she doesn't qualify this in terms of data.
Or analysis points, right?
She just draws on anecdotal evidence.
She just talks about the things that she's had said to her in her own life and in the lives of her friends and family as well.
And so, but that's really how a lot of the country is measuring this, isn't it?
It's not about fine statistics are exceptionally useful and that they're good for taking those arguments, you know, debating those arguments in the square.
But actually, the emotional investment and when you go out your door every morning and you just live.
In the world that has been created by all of this, that is where the true reality of the situation is.
And she goes on to say the position on race relations, I feel, if you're an ethnic minority in Britain, you can say with confidence, unfortunately, has deteriorated.
Ms. Mahmood blamed racism for the denial over Britain's illegal migration problem, adding, I just cannot understand that kind of politics.
I can't understand why anyone would think that that's a way to keep minority communities in this country safe and secure.
And I suppose revealed within that, of course, is the intention behind it all, of course, because Mahmood sees this existential threat that actually the illegals are bad optically for all immigrants as kind of like a client group of the state itself.
And so what you have here is really when she says, well, it's about making the minority groups safe and secure, it's like, okay, but the reason that the racism is rising is because it's.
Significantly to the detriment of the already settled people of Britain, right?
The actual native English people.
Well, I actually agree with the headline of this article that I think Britain is becoming more racist, but I think that it's because of actions like people in the Labour Party and the Tories to what has been done to people, as well as the fact, of course, that if you look at the hate crime reporting, obviously I don't agree with hate crimes in the first place, but if you do look at who are the main victims of that, in Britain it's still the native white British.
Majority group there.
Yeah, absolutely.
And one of the reasons I just wanted to bring up this old BBC article back from the height of the BLM craze as well is that when it says, What is Black Lives Matter and what are its aims, right?
Obviously, one of the things was that because some criminal in Minnesota died of a drug overdose on a bridge, that meant that we had to go through an entire cultural revolution in Europe as well.
That just makes sense, I suppose.
And the other thing about all of this is that, of course, they were saying to us, Well, we have.
We have certain demands of you, right?
We demand, we the minority communities, we the black community, have been threatened so unfairly, and we have certain demands to make life in Britain better for us.
And one of the things that was absent the entirety of the way through, and I'm not even going to call it a conversation, because of course, as we know, the outcomes and politically correct reasons for all of this had already been predetermined.
I mean, you couldn't have a conversation, because if you pushed back, From the other side, you would lose your job or get arrested.
There was no conversation.
There was just this is what we're telling you shut up and watch your country become more dangerous as a result of it.
There's another aspect into it.
Wokeness and this type of leftism is not universalist in the sense of looking at human beings, they're looking at groups and they're trying to establish a hierarchy of oppression.
Try to say, well, if you're more oppressed than other people, you need to have preferential treatment.
And the groups that the left is trying to gain support from are incompatible.
Yeah.
Right?
The quiz for Gaza shows this.
They're incompatible groups.
The only way to hold incompatible groups together is to invent a common enemy.
And even if there isn't such a common enemy, yeah, if there is such a common enemy, you talk about them.
If there isn't, you're inventing that common enemy.
I think this is why we constantly hear about the far right, we constantly hear about the extreme right wing and all the racism, all these catchphrases, is that.
These incompatibilities become very much visible.
They cannot be brushed under the carpet.
And the way to deal with that from the left's perspective is to say, guys, however incompatible you are, we have a common enemy.
The far right is rising, racism is rising, extremism is rising.
And for some reason, the far right is a problem for them only when it's the native far right.
Racism is a problem only when it's native racism.
And also, self determination is bad when it's the natives.
But I'd like to draw on a word that you use there, which is just to say that certain groups are incompatible with one another.
And this is only talking about it in terms of the leftist alliance, right?
Again, stills.
But what I think, and one of the reasons that Shabana is conscious of the changing public opinion out there as well, is that actually in many European societies, the native European peoples are slowly starting to learn that also many of the groups, And, you know, that have tried to chip off, you know, just wedge themselves into certain aspects of civilization are incompatible with us, right?
They're incompatible with us.
I would say 13% of the population of London committing, what was it, 61% of knife murders and 63% of gun crime.
Right.
I would say that's incompatible.
Right.
And actually, to draw on that exact point as well, when you talk about the behavior, Of those sorts of groups in London, right?
This is one of the things that seemed to be largely missed in the dialogue coming from the BLM types, which was that we have endless demands to make of you for how you need to change, for how you need to do better, for how you complicate us.
But we actually have no demands of ourselves, such as fixing fatherlessness in the home, fixing the ghetto culture.
Endless excuses.
It's pure.
Ethno narcissism, isn't it?
Yes.
It's like we're perfect as a group.
We only have demands from you, despite being.
You couldn't possibly have a problem with us, could you?
You don't want to get fired, do you?
Despite being a net financial drain as a group, as well as committing the majority of violent crime, I'm sorry, I don't care about your demands.
You're lucky you're even here, and in my opinion, you shouldn't be.
No.
And to help make that point, we have recent events in Clapham.
Ladies and gentlemen, which, like everywhere else in London, when you go back to the 50s and 40s, was a much more civilized place to live.
And there is nothing, of course, more radicalizing than simply looking at what your capital city used to be like and the harmony that used to be there.
Yes, I am aware that it was not utopic, but I've never claimed that it was a utopia, only that it was a damn sight better than what's being offered to us now.
And we can see here just endless, nondescript youths.
Starting their Easter holidays.
Yeah, but at least they're not posting on social media.
But they're living in the moment.
Just vibes.
Why would these Clapper Muse do this?
I can't believe these youngsters would do such a thing.
Right.
I'm, of course, referring to all the headlines which would refer to these children, teenagers, by any moniker other than the one that we're all thinking.
Yeah.
Well, it's not the English community, as you can see from the camera.
But this actually, this is not just people being raucous in the middle of Marx and Spencer's.
This actually went much further as well because of, and one thing to say is that all of this came about because it was actually coordinated.
They were using TikTok and other social media apps to basically quote unquote link up with other groups, you know, other ghettos and gangs around London.
Well, the message has been communicated to them that there is not going to be any significant punishment for what they're doing.
Which is when they have a police force that says, well, we aren't going to investigate shoplifting because we have to talk about non crime hate incidents.
Then, yeah, they are being sent the message that you are going to get away with it.
Well, there's nothing within our current society's framework to prevent them.
And it's not like a shop can put out a sign from back in the day like there's no dogs, no blacks, no Irish.
They can't discriminate against certain groups of people coming in their shops.
And so, if they come in in large numbers, not only can they get away with it because it overwhelms the security guards, but there's nothing that can be done to stop it either, which they well know.
Yeah.
And I'll just play this one as well from out.
Supermarkets and Discrimination00:15:30
So this actually happened over the space of two days.
It happened first on Saturday and then again on just yesterday on the Tuesday.
And I'll just play this one out from the street as well so you can see it, though.
I'll have to mute it.
Why?
Why hearing the noises?
No, because the guy who's filming uses some choice words that aren't suitable for YouTube.
Patriot.
But yeah, as you can see, it's just.
Total anarchy, right?
It's total anarchy.
And this is the end result of these anti racism policies.
The policies that the EU and all of the institutions of Europe have bent over, asked backwards for, to appease these people, it is to allow them to just get away with doing stuff.
They stopped on it.
It's like this.
There's the red lines there and they stopped.
Yeah, that's not the problem there.
No, no, that's.
Traffic police, Stelios?
So it's very unusual for me to go to the Daily Mail, but they interviewed some of the local people who were around and eyewitnesses to this.
And so they just go on to report on the fact that security guards working for the supermarket told the Daily Mail that he had to lock shoppers in for a while before gradually allowing them to be escorted out by officers.
Mohammed said police warned us that there would be chaos, so we prepared for it because that's what had happened last Saturday.
There were loads of kids sprinting and shouting, and police advised all the shops to close for one hour.
He added that the supermarket decided that instead to just close for a day and not reopen, but that some of the shoppers remained inside.
Police knew roughly the time of day and they said it would start at around 4 pm.
So they were here since around midday, but the chaos really happened at 7 pm.
Can't even be punctual for their own riots.
There's a joke here, isn't there?
Yeah.
We had to lock the shoppers in.
At 8 15 pm, we let them out one by one with the police and security, holding the door shut and escorting them out.
Shoppers were very scared.
There was one lady with a pram and a baby.
She was terrified, but the police escorted her to safety.
Mohammed added that the rioters targeted a branch of boots, which was not as well prepared for the chaos as other shops.
A Waitrose also closed its doors, sticking a police advised closure notice on the front door.
Interesting that they targeted a Waitrose and a Marks Spencer's because I imagine their families probably don't shop at those shops.
They're known to be a bit more upmarket.
Yeah.
Well, obviously, if they're in the area.
Well, to be fair, McDonald's was also forced to shut as well.
Well, to be fair, that's not unusual.
You know, a bunch of Uves causing problems in McDonald's.
They all have bouncers now, which is back in my day, I'm not even that old.
No.
They didn't have to have a bouncer on the door.
Right.
And also, just on the absolute off chance that there is someone who works at the Clapham McDonald's who is watching this, next time this happens, just play some Beethoven.
That sorts everything right out, I've heard.
Holy water, isn't it?
It is.
Wonderful.
They should put on to joy.
The crowd will be overjoyed.
And that by 10 30, the commotion had basically died out and they'd disappeared.
Though that's not entirely true, because they also went on to start fires.
On Clapham Common as well.
This is just, you see, the sort of behaviour that you get up to when the Easter holidays come around.
I'm sure you two have very, very fond memories of the Easter break getting in.
You've worked very hard on your exams.
And then you go and just start a riot at the local supermarket or a fire on the local green.
Many such cases.
We all did this.
I was a miscreant youth, but I didn't do this sort of thing.
It was sort of wholesome misbehaviour.
That didn't really harm anyone.
I suspect you must have come from a very different set of youths then.
I would say so.
Yeah, to have different behaviours.
But it goes on to say that a fire was started in Clapham Common as chaos erupted with large crowds of people gathering, forcing the shops to close.
And that footage online has shown that a few fires were started around Clapham Common Park as the smoke was billowing into the air.
And it just goes on to reiterate the fact that all of this was once again organised by.
TikTok.
Now, another point to add in all of this is the one that you made, Josh, which is just that all of the articles that you go through with this, it's just, oh, they're just youths, they're just young teenagers, they're just anyone else.
But obviously, we can see from the camera exactly what communities these people are coming from.
And this really is why I started this segment by talking about all of the anti racism propaganda that they've been putting out.
Because on the one hand, this creates an eradicable problem.
Where, on the one hand, you are going to open the entire treasury of Europe into these sorts of policies and basically to contain the situation and tell native people, don't believe your lying eyes.
But at the same time, if all of the diverse groups that you're trying to protect and you're trying to shield European perceptions of them, that only works if they actually behave themselves.
I actually put together a collage that I've just sent to Samson.
Oh, yes.
In the image folder, Samson, of all of the headlines and all of the different euphemisms, if you could say that, that they used to refer to these youths.
So hopefully we can pull that up.
Samson's on it.
All right.
Got it.
Samson.
I just went to the main.
Yeah, no, thank you for.
That's all right.
Sorry, hijacking your segment here.
That's good.
Here we are.
This is left and right.
I think we've got the Telegraph down the bottom there, trying to recognize the font.
I think the top one is GB News, but you have there.
Terrorising youths, mobs of youths, hooded youngsters, youth mob, youths overwhelm MS Store.
Like, come on.
They're all singing from the same hymn sheet.
And so eventually a dispersal order was issued because they'll listen to that, no doubt.
And then I thought we'd obviously just check in with the Labour MP for Clapham herself and see what she had to say about all of this, given that this is.
Her constituency and she, oh, socialist, feminist, anti racist.
Ah, okay.
Did she say that this is the rational response to the rise of the far right?
Well, if we actually look at around the things that she was tweeting around the time that this was all going on, we did have on International Transgender Day of Visibility.
That's a funny day of, you know, something like visibility.
That's not what they struggle with.
You can always tell who's transgender.
Yeah.
In a lineup, it's the one that's hulking and big.
And also, I think I've seen enough, actually.
Thank you.
No more visitors.
Look at the engagement, and she's an MP.
Right.
Well, yes, exactly, as well.
But the point is, as well, is that, look, let's not beat about the bush here.
She just allows them to get away with it.
She's not going to actually come down.
There's going to be no efforts from the MP for Clapham to talk about going to the homes of these families, talk about their behaviour, or actually fix it.
No, it's just made.
Permissive because actually, to do something about this, to address the fact that different communities have different moral standards and that they don't respect you, they don't understand you, and they don't care for any of the things that we actually value.
Well, again, I just come to a point that things are incompatible at this point.
And as it goes, we have suffered decades and decades of just being lectured to about how we're such morally.
Bad people, whilst all the time, just stuff like this is just allowed to happen all the time.
And it's not just the actual riots themselves when they go on.
It's exactly, exactly as you were saying, Joshua, as well.
It's the fact that you now all of a sudden, you just live in a world where there have to be bouncers outside of a McDonald's.
It's also the fact that we now just, you have to have like anti thieving cases for the chocolate barrel.
And somehow it's your fault.
Right.
And it's your fault.
That's the icing of the.
Yes.
And you're racist for pointing it out.
The interesting thing is, if you look on the.
Census map, and you go to a largely majority white area, you go to the supermarket there, you see none of this.
It's funny, that isn't it?
What a weird coincidence.
They've started doing this at the local Morrison's on my street.
And every time I've seen, you know, once or twice now, just people nicking things from the shop.
And actually, it's quite strange because the Morrison's itself is staffed by British people.
And you can tell they just, look, they're just doing a bit of shift work.
You know, it's not a particularly good wage.
They already have a job that isn't.
The most fulfilling type of job, and I'm not trying to be pejorative about that, but it's just to say that to add on the excess and the demand of having to deal with these unruly foreign people is not something they should have to be contending with at all, and so it just makes everyone's life harder.
Uh, York, why does York of all places now have anti terror bollards?
This is from a few years ago, but you know, on the shambles, on the barriers, yeah, yeah.
Famous, and again, when the barriers were erected.
Right, and as it points out, this was supposed to be temporary and then it just became permanent, and this is the entire trajectory.
Of all of the anti racist quote unquote policies to make what should be a temporary, just a stepping stone to greater, more harmonious race relations, right?
No, actually, it's to subjugate you, take away the things that you love, and give them a free pass.
It's a monument, it's a tribute to the strength that is diversity.
Yes.
Yeah.
Pretty weak, weak source.
But of course, this doesn't apply to all foreigners, does it?
We are.
We're not all the same.
There was a, at Wembley, there was a football match, just an international friendly being fought between England and Japan.
Japan won, so well played.
But I thought I'd just show you the Japanese conduct after the game had ended.
A bit of light jazz in the background as well.
I'll turn it off.
But just, it's just night and day.
It's just absolute night and day.
And the thing is, and the reason that I added this into it is that the Japanese were able to do this without any social engineering.
They didn't need any anti racist policies.
They didn't need a Japanese Lives Matter or something in order to become more model citizens.
No, they just innately felt that sense of honor, responsibility, stewardship, and obviously, and their place as guests in our country, and that they were going to treat it respectfully.
It's even got an England scarf on.
Right.
Yeah, patriot.
And like I say, this is all against the fact that the people in these videos were offered absolutely everything and it still wasn't good enough, right?
When given the license to just remake society in their own image.
Well, with many people, the more they're given, the more they ask.
Yes.
Because it creates the habit in them to think that that's the way.
Yet, if you profit from victimizing yourself and screaming how much of a victim you are, then you're given the incentive to shout louder and victimize yourself even more.
Absolutely.
And so, yeah, really, just to say that anti racist policies have just been used to crowbar the way into every institution.
And at the same time, they refuse to address the fact that the moral character of some communities are just entirely unassimilable with our own.
And all that we're left to do is simply notice these differences.
Well, you'd think that'd be the logical explanation.
Ryan Hinnigan says evolution of the right, 90s, racism isn't real, 2010s, it's happening, but it's no big deal, 2020s, racism is a good thing, actually, 2030s, people freak out.
About racism, the real problem.
Well, the thing is, as well, this is what I say Shaban Mahmood knows that actually, in their efforts to have everything, to just give the immigrants as a client group absolutely everything, they're in a very precarious position where they are just going to lose all of it.
All of the privileges, all of the welfare, just that there's settled status in Britain, right?
All of that is going to become negotiable once a party comes into power that actually says, right, but what good is this?
For the British people, right?
Having these sorts of things just going on needlessly, just because it's the Easter holidays.
Sigilstone also says.
Youngsters could be here.
I hate youngsters, he thought.
Yeah.
And Ochidor, I'll just read, says, What is it about 13% of London and US demographics, both around 13%?
A number of others, but why 13%?
I don't know.
It's just.
It's meme magic, is what's going on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It is the memes.
All right.
For the sake of time, let's move on.
I'll get to them random a little bit later.
Sorry.
So, the British government is lying to you, which shouldn't be much of a shock, but lots and lots of people on the right fell for it, and I'm annoyed at them.
I'm disappointed.
I'm going to wag my finger like a disappointed father at all of you, because you believed the Home Office statements, which we'll be looking at in a second, talking about the fact that they're supposedly scrapping non crime hate incidents, and that's not actually the case.
In fact, they're just bringing them back in a reformed and more calibrated way.
Policing Intelligence Records00:15:30
They're more concerned about wasting police time with online arguments and things that are not really politically or legally interesting to the state.
So that's really what's going on.
But we'll drill into it.
So, a non crime hate incident is not a criminal offence.
And the incident does stay on police records indefinitely, though, and can appear in background checks when people apply for jobs.
So, it's effectively a criminal record.
For something that is not a crime.
And a non crime hate incident is categorized as motivated by hostility or prejudice towards a person with particular characteristics.
And so, yeah, it's inherently intersectional, I suppose.
So, this is the Home Office post that got everyone pleased and excited and acting as if this was a victory.
It's not, it's actually factually incorrect.
So, it says, Police time will no longer be wasted investigating legal social media posts, freeing up officers to patrol the streets and tackle real crime.
I'll believe it when I see it.
By scrapping non crime hate incidents, we are balancing the protection of vulnerable communities while respecting free speech.
I don't think you care about free speech.
Why have you introduced the Online Harms Bill?
Or Act, I suppose now.
Over recent years, guidance has failed to keep pace with the digital age and has led to officers being called out to people's homes over insults and routine arguments, which is true.
New measures announced today will introduce a new system.
So, yes, it's not that they're removing these things, there is just a new system that will prevent police from recording lawful free speech.
Forces will continue to ensure that reports from the public, which may lead to genuine harm, get the right response.
And this is, yes.
Sorry, sorry, I don't want to interrupt.
That's all right, go ahead.
I just want to ask why do you need a system in order to stop recording lawful free speech?
Why don't you just stop recording it?
Exactly.
And the reason is because they're still interested in it, but they want to frame it in a way that's a bit more PR friendly because they got a lot of criticism.
Well, they were very quick, weren't they, at the beginning to announce immediately the thing that you should all be paying attention to.
Look at this thing, we're doing this thing.
Exactly.
So there's lots of interesting things buried within this Telegraph article here that I think was published earlier in March.
It talks about the lead up to this abolition, as they call it, of non crime hate incidents.
And.
She basically criticized the current model for diverting officers into a direct quote here policing tweets rather than the streets.
So it's not actually.
About concerns about stifling people's ability to speak freely.
It's just about efficient use of the police's time.
And I want to draw people's attention to the fact that the incentives for the government and the police are still very much the same as they've always been.
Why would Labour not persecute their political enemies?
I mean, they've been doing it for a long time.
Look at some of the quite harsh sentences people received for political statements against them, as well as the police who are being purged.
And there are still a few holdouts, but many are being pushed out of officers that had this old school approach of actually we want to catch thieves and violent criminals, and that's what the police should be for.
Instead, they're being replaced by sort of bureaucratic university graduates who embody the ideology.
And what's effectively going on from many police officers I've spoken to, and I've done a lot of work on this, is that they're trying to get true believers in the police, true woke believers that truly believe in everything the government's trying to make them believe.
Do.
And so, even if you removed the infrastructure entirely, because you've selected for these people, it's going to self perpetuate anyway.
You could have no laws on this, and there would still be people thinking that it's the right thing to do because that's who you've chosen to be in the police.
And that's how the institution's culture has developed.
Exactly.
And it's not developed that way organically, it's been a very specific political choice.
And the number of disillusioned police officers who otherwise had.
You know, very good records, but were kicked out because they didn't play the political game is quite large.
And it should be a worry for everyone because a lot of the time it's also the tall men who are competent at dealing with violent people, and instead they get little, tiny, compliant women who were violence to break out.
I don't think I need their help.
I've seen them on the streets, it's just like.
It's like I'm a foot and a half.
I mean, I really had to squint to spot them, but they were there.
Yeah, tiny.
But what is replacing it, according to this article, Is she says that only a small fraction of the incidents will be recorded under the most serious category of antisocial behaviour.
So, for a start, you can now get an antisocial behaviour order and the like because of posts.
Oh, did everyone in Clapham get those?
I don't think they did.
No, funny that.
Police forces will be instructed not to record them on crime databases, but only treat them as intelligence reports.
So, they're still keeping a record of your legal speech, but it's just not able to be viewed publicly.
So, in many ways, it is less accountable than it was before because they keep this record as intelligence.
But if they've received a report that you've been arguing with someone online that's perfectly legal, perfectly legitimate, you're not even necessarily saying anything that people would find offensive, but someone's called the police and they've got upset about it, that can still stay on your record, if you will.
And it might not come up in a background check, but what if someone else contacts them and they say, oh, well, we've already had an intelligence report?
On this person, now there's a second one.
And they could both be complete nonsense and no foundation to them whatsoever.
But they're thinking, well, if this person's repeatedly harassing people on the internet, now we've got a couple of reports that are spurious, but maybe we should go and talk to them.
Maybe we've got to instruct them.
Maybe we've got to take their devices off of them.
Who knows where this sort of thing can lead?
And now you can't even know in a background check whether they have this data.
Then they can use it against you all the more effectively.
And that's a terrifying aspect of it, isn't it?
It leads wherever they want it to lead.
Yeah, and if we actually look at the guidelines, this is from the College of Policing, who set the guidelines here.
Here's the new approach, and one thing you'll notice is just how vague and subjective it all is.
The review has found inconsistencies in the current system.
Recommendations under the new approach include the following.
It's also worth mentioning as well.
This at the top before it gets to that.
Those who experience abuse motivated by hostility towards their race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, sex, or transgender identity should feel confident in reporting it and know it will be taken seriously.
So, yeah, there's their.
You know, pledge of commitment to intersectionality out of the way.
It says a new and more focused, I just read that tonight.
Every report will go through a triage process by specially trained staff who will assess whether there is a genuine policing purpose before any further action is taken.
Where there is, the response is effective and appropriate to the risk posed.
So there's just another layer of subjectivity.
And of course, with the environment in the police as it is, they've already embodied a lot of these principles that.
Are behind the previous system in the first place.
So you don't actually need it to perpetuate the same system with this new approach.
They're supposedly being more focused on the definition of an incident, and policing is only recording matters where there is a clear policing purpose, but then again, that's quite subjective.
It doesn't necessarily say a crime has been clearly committed, it's just a clear policing purpose.
But the police's remit fits over more than crime.
Right?
You know, sometimes you see police walking the streets and there's someone riding a bicycle through the city centre and they'll just say, Oh, you're not allowed to do that, and that's dangerous.
They don't arrest them.
So they're doing something beyond, although they are enforcing a law, they're not necessarily treating it as if, you know, they're taking them away immediately, which would be a little bit harsh.
And they say this will apply to all reports, including those believed to be motivated by hate or hostility.
And then it says that the police databases for recording crimes will no longer be used to record incidents motivated by hate.
But that's not entirely true because there's still criminal legislation on the books for that sort of thing.
And so maybe for non crimes, but it's still going to be logged as intelligence.
So there's going to be a record regardless, even if it's not one that comes up in a background check.
And I suppose non crime hate incidents that have already been recorded and people already have, it's not like they're going to be erased.
They're still there in the system.
Well, they've certainly not announced that.
Which is interesting, and it says incidents recorded will not use crime technology such as victim and suspect.
Well, that's because it's not a criminal offence, but they're still, as they're admitting, recording incidents where there is no victim or suspect, but they're still, as they explicitly say, recording it.
So it's not really changing that much.
And then they also talk about how there's an independent commission that is set up to monitor how well this has been implemented.
But at the same time, I'm not entirely confident it's going to hold it to account.
No.
It's quite often set up for the government to be marking its own homework, however independent it might be.
But yes, I wanted to draw attention to something that I've talked about for about six years now, which is Section 127 of the Communications Act of 2003, one of Blair's inventions.
A person is guilty of an offence if he sends by means of a public electronic communication network a message.
Or other matter that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene, or menacing character, or causes any such message or matter to be sent.
So it's still on the books, it's still illegal to do these sorts of things.
And maybe it's going to be the case that there's just going to be more illegal speech crimes now because they've got rid of the non crime hate incidents.
So, yes, it's just ridiculous.
And people have been speculating what has motivated this.
People have been talking about the fact that Graham Linehan was arrested at Heathrow over his ex posts, which I think was a non crime hate incident because he wasn't charged with anything, but he was questioned.
And I think they were trying to take his devices and things.
And there's also the fact that the Trump administration described it as a departure from democracy.
People appointed maybe it's pressure from Trump, but I don't necessarily think so.
I think that there's a combination of things.
It's the recalibration of police resources to more efficiently deal with dissidents, in my opinion.
And there's also the fact that the entire philosophy of governance at the minute is determined by the fear of unrest on the scale of Southport of 2024.
And so.
Anything that's seen as a concession to the right is actually just a move to cool the country's temperature to stop the right being adjutants because the conditions which created those riots have only worsened no matter who you ask across the political board.
Whatever the reasons for it were, nothing's got better in that respect, and they know this.
They know the temperature in the country is high, and so maybe throwing out a little bit of red meat here and there could potentially cool the temperature because there's lots of suggestions to say that they're getting lots of consultation.
The Labour government.
From the intelligence services and instructions on how to deal with it because a lot of their actions map on to their approach in intelligence.
But isn't that a remarkable admission by them that actually the way to cool tensions is to implement policies that cater to the right and not the left?
They're just openly saying, no, if we're going to calm the country, we actually need to implement some of the things that the right wing are campaigning for.
And.
Just in case you're not sceptical enough, it's worth mentioning that in April of 2021, Priti Patel ordered the police to stop recording hate incidents that are not crimes.
And so, hang on a minute, how in 2026 are they also scrapping them?
And she even said wipe non crime hate allegations.
Didn't happen.
And then in 2023, Swella Braverman gave new guidance for non crime hate incidents, but didn't get rid of them.
Just reformed them.
And in fact, the code introduced an additional threshold test that clarifies that personal data should only be included in a non crime hate incident record if the event presented a real risk of either significant harm to individuals or groups with a particular characteristic or characteristics, a future criminal offence being committed against individuals or groups with a particular characteristic or characteristics.
So basically, that was here, by the way.
So basically, it's up to the discretion of the police.
You know, do we think this person is going to be a problem?
Well, in the woke policing thing, if you say anything right wing, that could lead to, you know, offence to people with particular characteristics or a future crime in their mind.
So it didn't do anything.
That's why people are still angry about them.
And I think that this reformed version is going to be quite similar to this sort of thing, where it's supposedly solving it, but only in name.
And in fact, the laws are pretty much still on the books.
They're still able to do this sort of thing.
There's just less accountability.
Because you can't actually see it.
It's just an intelligence record that could potentially lead to criminal prosecutions anyway.
Even though you haven't committed a crime.
So the idea that they've been scrapped and you know, you're all fine and dandy, you can post what you want on social media.
No, that's not true.
And as they grab more and more, I suppose, at the police force itself and you know, just plant their little intersectional acolytes inside it, of course, it doesn't matter how much you try to manage the perception of you know, the legislation around this or what powers you have to enforce it.
You're basically putting in with hawks, you know, people who are going to be going out of their way to look.
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Four cases of it wherever they possibly can because they know that the system is for them and against the people that obviously have problems with their perception.
I suppose the state would frame it as very much so perceptually challenged, yeah, who are perceptually challenged, yeah.
Uh, quite right, Mr. White.
Josh, if you check the anti Muslim hatred guidance, you'll see the guidance there insists upon incidents being recorded, the NCHI going underground, yes.
Um I'm very frustrated.
Not a single person on the British right pointed out all the things I did.
And I was a little bit disappointed.
I thought we were better than this, just taking things at face value.
But alas.
Thank you for your service.
You're welcome.
That's a random name.
I'm not actually sure if I can read that one, but it's funny.
I get it.
Josh, I just wanted to respond to what you said before.
The way to deal with that is the conditional.
Say, if this is the case, then that's a good thing.
What does Samson?
Don't read it, okay.
No, no, no, it's all right, Samson.
Okay, okay, all right, over to you, sir.
Right, so there's the Lotus Cetus live event.
When is it?
11th of April.
It's uh the worst day if you're an Orthodox and you want to go to church, but it's the Saturday, the 11th of April, 7 to 10 o'clock.
You may not go to church, but you can come to our Mecca in Mecca, Swindon.
Yeah, we've converted.
This is not April Fool's.
Right.
So, yeah, the doors open at 6 for the VIP, the very important people.
But also, everyone's very important because this is the Lotus Sita's family and everyone's important.
Standard doors open at 6 30.
Everyone is important.
It's just.
No, everyone.
Some are more important.
Some are more important.
Forget your way in.
Some are more important.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Actually, this is the worst advertiser of all time.
Right.
Okay.
We are going to talk about one of the most.
Ridiculous political conventions of all time.
The bar is high, but the NDP's convention, the National Democrat, the new Democratic Party's convention in Winnipeg, in Manitoba, in Canada, has crossed that bar.
And it's definitely in dream tier when it comes to the most ridiculous convention of all time.
Up there with, like, you know, when Corbyn had a hold of Labour and, like, the Your Party conferences.
Yes.
Yeah.
I would say, though, perhaps my dream.
Yeah.
Ridiculous conference is the one with Alexandra in Germany.
But we will get to there.
I think that this convention scores really high there.
Let me give you some context.
The previous Canadian elections on a federal level were held last year.
And this party here, called the New Democratic Party, led by Jagmid Singh, this is a very flattering picture here.
He has nice teeth there.
He looks like a villain in an Indiana Jones film here, doesn't he?
Yeah.
It's just bearing his teeth.
I want to know who his dentist is.
This party got decimated.
And from 25 seats, they moved to seven seats.
No, they, yeah, from 24 seats, they got seven seats.
So they lost 17 seats.
From 17.82%, they went to 6.3%.
So they got decimated.
And when you suffer such a loss, a loss of such an extent, you need to have some good discussion about the next day.
About the brave future.
And there's no better way to have this discussion than a convention.
So you need a political convention to decide how you're going to move in the future.
And that is what they did.
And they chose a new leader.
This is Avi Lewis, who won the NDP leadership race in a decisive first ballot victory.
So there was no contest.
Popular guy, then?
Yeah, he is a popular guy.
He won four out of seven votes.
There, 56%, roughly there.
He won the leadership of the party from Jagmid Singh, who won it in 2017.
And let me just give you some of the juicy details here.
Lewis now has the difficult task of rebuilding a party at a historic low with just six MPs, plus himself, because they have seven seats, weak polling, and about 13 million.
Canadian dollars of debt.
I suppose that's Canadian dollars.
For the party?
Yes.
Yes.
Right.
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Okay.
Nothing bodes well as, you know, a government in waiting as having debt in your own political party.
So they want to reframe their party and say that they are for the Canadian working class.
That's why they've got the Palestine flag.
Exactly.
That's why they have the Canadian flag over there.
Actually, no.
Don't see any Canadian flag.
Where is it?
It's a little leaf in the zero of 2026.
Oh, that's nice, isn't it?
Canada proud.
Yeah, but they have the flag of.
It's so just obligatory, though, isn't it?
It's like, oh, we'll put the maple leaf in because we've just got to put the maple leaf in.
The issue is you would expect this from leftists.
Yes.
But they want to portray themselves as working class.
So I'm going to show you how they think they're going to approach the working class.
Okay, great.
They're going to be dressed like Canadian lumberjacks, perhaps?
I don't know.
Do you have any idea how they're going to go about it?
Are they going to be weird and cringe?
Are they going to be insufferably nude?
I don't think, Josh, I don't think you're allowed to use this language.
In fact, I think you misgendered me.
I'm sorry, miss.
Sir.
I'm not miss, sir.
Miss, sir.
I'm they, them.
I'm sorry, it.
Right.
It's not it.
I'm not Pennywise, the dancing clown.
Okay.
So.
They invented the equity card system.
Why?
Because they understand that when you have an assembly, when you try to rule by assembly, you can actually get a bit disorientated with the Tower of Babel situation.
So you have to devise a system, a process that is going to mitigate that.
Because, you know, everyone has their opinions, everyone wants to speak, everyone has things to say.
And you need a good process that actually imposes force.
No, actually imposes order on the chaos of the multitude of voices.
And that is what they did.
So they had actually a very.
Rational idea from within the woke perspective, which was very inventive of them.
That was really nice.
It actually made for comedy gold.
So they invented that card, the equity card, and they gave it to people who had points of privilege.
And they got points of privilege in order to determine who is going to speak first.
So the more press you are, the more you're getting fast tracked.
They're overcomplicating this.
They should have just passed around, you know, like in Breaking Bad, where they just pass around the talking pillow.
They should have just done it like that.
I like how the conference starts waiting for the disabled lesbian Muslim.
Many such cases in this conference.
Still, can you do me a favour as well?
Just scroll back up to the top of the article.
One thing I just wanted to say as well about this is just, I mean, I don't want to say just look at them, but just look at them.
And the thing about this.
I think it's fair.
But the thing about this as well is that surely, especially when you're campaigning, and to campaign, you're trying to inspire a certain level of trust in the voter that, on some level, you have yourself together.
I am looking at them, comrade.
What are you seeing wrong?
I'm just merely surprised.
You're just a non crime hate incident that is recorded but also isn't?
What, next to my other 70.
No, I was just going to say, but surely there comes a point where it's like, look, if they're going to respect me and vote for me, isn't there a part of your brain that says, surely I should at least look, present like I respect myself?
But they are.
You would think.
They do respect themselves.
Okay, well, I don't respect them.
So I guess we won't be friends.
I'm going to take you there.
You're going to witness it.
You're going to take me to Canada.
Witness and rejoice.
Right, okay.
Let's see here what the purpose was.
The event was billed as an opportunity for progressive Canadians to come together, don't get any ideas, to debate ideas, celebrate our shared values, and help shape the future of our movement, the NDB convention website said.
But footage from the event revealed frustration among delegates.
Over the alleged misuse of so called equity cards, colored coded cards that identified a party member as being part of a marginalized group that granted them special privileges.
There's a beautiful irony there, isn't there?
Yeah, doing it all by core.
And this is the chair.
Do not misgender the chair.
I make no such promises.
The chair is an inanimate object.
You're an inanimate object.
Okay, the chair is not Avil Lewis, that's the leader.
It's Adrian Smith.
A Vancouver lawyer who is here on a video saying why people should use appropriate pronouns.
And they're saying that it is the law.
They need to fight against transphobia, which is a pattern of negative conduct towards trans people.
And they also have the autonomy to choose their own gender.
And you should ask people their pronouns.
This is important to bear in mind because it featured on the.
In the conference, you'll see.
I just love the fact that there was nothing, if only there was some recent event, you know, in this century between Canada and questions of transphobia that just so happened to create one of the most like world renowned intellectual superstars of all time.
And that just like has not hit them at all.
That actually their attempts to do all of this created one of the most like vicious backlashes.
We're just saying it was one of the first issues where they actually drew a line and was like, no, you're not having this, sod off.
So now I want you to sit back, relax and enjoy.
And if this tortures you, I have zero remorse.
Actually, I'll find it funny.
It's so much more comfortable.
Yeah, my God.
Let's go to the 48 seconds.
Probably not good for you.
Because I want you to see what's being said there.
Thank you, Joyce Ballas.
Welcome to Canada.
She, her.
My pronouns are she, her, L, and en francais.
It's going to be really hard to follow Rob Ashton.
Amazing speaker.
We are a working class party.
I think most of us in this room are behind that.
And while we can debate on the specific words and who is and isn't included, I think our Constitution needs to recognize that.
And I also recognize there is, I'm sorry, I'm just speaking way too fast.
Let me slow down for the closed captioning.
I'm so sorry, I get excited.
This is working class aesthetic.
It's like a KKK wizard.
I was going to say, why is this goth ghost at a conference?
But it's so nice when they think that this is how you get the message across to the working class.
This is how you communicate with the working class by being a freak because the working classes are famous for entertaining people with differences, said no one ever.
Yeah, I just thought it was like, excuse me, Mr. Working Class person.
It's like, what do you want?
It's like, well, it'd be great if we could just, you know, stop immigration for a bit.
On second thought, let us tell you what you need, not what you want.
We will tell you what's good for you.
Right.
So, this was a convention for them to choose the new leader.
Yes.
And as you understand, these are passionate people and passions were high.
So, at some point, someone had.
A criticism of the previous leader.
Oh, yeah.
And all hell broke loose.
Let us enjoy this.
This is the previous.
Wait, I don't want any copyright issues here.
This is the previous leader.
There's a song playing on the background.
You see him here, you know, living it.
He's joining the rhythm.
Why are they cheering for him?
I assume they're cheering for him.
Yes.
No, he just let them do that.
He's doing that with booing.
Yeah.
But it's like, you've just let them to defeat.
Why do you get.
But now, someone, I mean, it's a way of saying thank you to people who have supported you over the years.
I think it's nice and wholesome.
But not everyone saw it that way.
In fact, there were several people in that conference who didn't like that.
This is Nicholas Torno.
I come from Kingston and the Islands.
My pronouns are he, they.
And I have a question about the video we just watched the tribute to Jugmeet Singh.
I want to know how much money it cost.
I want to know how much time it wasted out of the convention.
And I want to know who decided on it.
Rising on a personal point of privilege, that comment that was just made is absolutely unacceptable.
I'm in my house of party where I belong as a racialized person, and we paid a tribute that is incredibly fitting for an incredible leader.
And that comment is so, so harmful in this space.
I think the people that are here that are racialized, that are people that have not ever been seen before.
Deserve the space and our leader that looked like us and changed the politics for us as new democrats, as canadians, as ontarians, as people from all across this world, as people that have survived genocide, deserve goddamn respect in this house.
What genocide have canadians?
Thank you, so that's one question.
Also, um, this is also the leader that got the party decimated, so yeah, you would think that there would be some criticism in a conference of that leader, especially when it was a conference.
a convention to decide the leader.
Can we go to some nails on a chalkboard for a palate cleanser?
You know, yes, but that's what you're going to watch now.
Oh, brother.
No, no, no, go on.
No, no, please say what you want.
No, it's just in my head.
I'll give you the equity card.
Thank you.
You can speak.
Thank you.
No, it's just I've just got the Voltaire quote just rattling around in my head.
You know, about him praying to make his enemies ridiculous and God answering them.
Yeah, but it's annoying because our enemies keep on winning and they're ridiculous.
Yeah, even worse, even more humiliating.
I want to warn you in advance do not laugh.
Try to contain your laughter and please respect the person who is going to speak because they are faced with an existential threat and their rights are directly assaulted.
So, please, in this case, I want you to be a bit prepared because I'm a good colleague and I don't want you to.
I see that we are one minute ahead of schedule, and so I'm going to get out of here.
The balloting co chairs are returning, I believe.
Now, balloting co chairs.
There is a point.
Let's hear the point on microphone one.
I'm sorry, just real quick point of personal privilege.
I understand there's very little time for delegates to speak, but early on the mic, it's hard as a racialized and transgender delegate to sometimes use this card and speak up, speak to somebody in front of me in line, and ask, hey, this pertains to multiple intersecting parts of my lived experience.
I'd like to speak.
I was rejected when I talked.
And it's frustrating when these are my rights being directly under attack right now in Alberta, and that's A cisgender woman had spoken over me.
And I understand her rights are important too.
This pertains to her too.
But I don't know.
I hope that in the future, the federal NDP will also have a broader interpretation.
I find this, sorry.
It's basically satire, isn't it?
Like, if I were to satirize this sort of ideology, I'd just do that.
Yeah.
I can't understand if they're trolling or not.
Because what is funny here, and I find it actually.
Hilarious is that if you create a system where you're rewarding victimhood, you're incentivizing people to scream how much of a victim they are.
And if you're subjectivizing the criteria for who counts as a victim, all you're going to have there is people competing who is more of a victim.
You're creating a culture of whiny bitches, is what you're doing.
Yeah.
The entire conference was just them whinging about how oppressed they were.
It's just like, Yeah, any sane person doesn't want you anywhere near power because you're like, I'm so powerless, I'm so weak.
Yeah, cisgendered woman spoke before me, so I'm under attack.
I may invoke the Schmittian case of exception here.
I mean, he should not feel threatened by women.
I mean, he is the threat.
Right now, but one thing you always respect the chair.
Let's look at that.
Microphone two, are you on this resolution?
Yes.
Microphone two, please.
Turn it up slightly, Samson.
My name is Mastura Tasneem.
My pronouns are she, they.
I'm from Ontario.
Hello, bonjour.
As we conduct this convention today and the past two days, right now there are discussions of 10,000 American men and women being sent to Iran, being deployed just to be part of this bloodbath.
Canada cannot and will not be part of the legacy of blood that was built in Iraq, in Palestine, and now in Iran.
This is a no question debate.
I call this question, Madam Chairs.
Thank you.
Good news for you.
You're not involved in any way.
Your point's quite well made.
Speaker, I'll again thank delegates not to call me Madame Chair or Madame la Présidence.
I'm a non binary person.
My pronouns are they, them, and their.
Chair is sufficient.
Go there and make it about you.
I love how that gets a standing ovation.
If you're not open to the resolution, it's not open to you to also call the question.
If the question is the will of the House, someone else must call it because we heard from you in substantive debate.
It's like, you know, just know your place, right?
There's that convention.
You don't decide what the convention is.
But also, that's hilarious because you'd expect this from a leftist.
But also, it's so hilarious that, again, it's like, no, don't misgender me.
But, like, she looks like someone who's just perpetually terrified of the people in their own party, right?
As well.
It's that thing.
It's like, if you're in a position where you're constantly treading on eggshells because you know that everyone in your party is so volatile, so thin-skinned, that you say one word and it's just going to invite total, like, you know.
But that's the thing: is that you have people who, Who don't claim to be oppressed, and you're actually oppressing them.
Why?
Because it's their time to speak, and then someone remembers that they're oppressed.
Someone changed gender three minutes ago and said, Hey, I have a point of privilege.
I need to be fast tracked.
Absolutely ridiculous.
And there's the process mayhem here that it's so fun because they constantly talk about the process.
It's like, Oh, this is a punishment.
Yeah, but it's almost, they never talk about issues, almost never.
It's 99.9%.
It's always.
Process, talk.
They've not said anything about tax policy yet.
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There's a point of privilege on microphone one, then we'll go to microphone three.
Go ahead, delegate.
Yes, hello.
I was standing here with my gender equity card before you called on the previous speaker.
That's my point of privilege that I would like to raise.
I will explain the speaking order, which is fixed, that I cannot amend, which is the pro con rotation.
You can move yourself up a line that you're standing in.
I am pro, and I was.
We went.
You went pro con, pro, pro, and my plan was to go con.
The speaker at Con Mike 3 also has a speaking card.
Yesterday, this card was used in an inappropriate matter.
And while I understand in Ontario we know this is equity, even if that, this was also used inappropriately in terms of gender.
I want everyone to be mindful that these cards, for individuals like myself who identify as a black woman, have no value outside of this space.
Obviously, that's why they were designed, you idiot.
I like the fact that I hate that I'm defending the system now, but they've got you, Josh.
Damn it.
It's just levels and levels of stupidity.
I can't even fathom it.
And you would expect them to learn from this what do you think the morale of the story was according to them?
Not on the cards.
That the voters are the problem?
Oh, you're talking about election structure for next time.
I already talked about it.
I am not opposed to this resolution.
I wanted to take the opportunity to adjust the equity card systems, which I understand is a rule that's already adopted.
But given that we're dealing with human rights and Canadian identity, it seemed like an appropriate time.
So I apologize for interrupting this resolution.
But I have suggested wording for the equity card system, if we can hear that.
Okay.
So instead of saying, guys, we can't speak.
We have caused mayhem and we can't talk to each other.
They say, no, we need more of that.
Yeah.
Also, as well, something because it just so happened to have been the least insane thing.
That I've seen from the conference so far.
People just still wearing face masks in the audience as well.
Well, there was more of that, and there were people talking about hearing impairments.
It was just.
I mean, I'd love to be hearing impaired at that conference, to be honest.
It sounds like a privilege.
You know what?
I think.
And I'm pretty sure it's also a privilege.
And you're not missing anything.
You're not missing anything.
It's a privilege for our eyes that they were wearing face masks as well.
But what I find really poetic here is that this is poetic justice.
Is that they have completely destroyed their party because they flirted with it, with this whole idea.
And at some point, you need to be decisive.
And you also need to understand that you aren't the only person on this planet.
And there are other people.
And rewarding victimhood and self victimization isn't the way to go forward.
But what is absolutely, apart from this being poetic justice, there is still something also a bit nightmarish is that the government of Canada right now.
Is also really prone to accepting this.
This is another party that they came forth, but the government of Canada is also very, in that sense, liberal.
Yeah, well, and Mark Carney came in, didn't he, and just sort of like won a surprise victory off the back of a lot of Trump's buster about annexing Canada.
In that case, Pierre Polyev had a head, and he was seen when Trump made that statement, he was seen as.
The sort of Trump's guy within Canada, and that definitely gave a boost to Mark Carney.
And I don't think that Mark Carney right now is good in governing Canada if her perspective is what?
I've heard some rumblings that he's been quietly deporting people.
I'm not sure how true that is, I haven't looked into it.
But who knows?
He could be.
Dude, to do it a bit louder, stealthily just clearing them out, just like, look at those competitors, let's just get rid of them, shall we?
I doubt this, and.
I would be surprised, but who knows?
Would be interesting to find out who said it and where they based that upon, but we don't have to do that now.
No.
Right.
So I think basically this is just absolutely ridiculous.
It is poetic justice that, you know, they just can't talk to each other.
But also it's incredibly dangerous because they are a party and they have seats in the Canadian parliament and their philosophy isn't that different from the party that rules Canada.
It looks like Canada is going to have rough years ahead of it.
A bunch of rumble rants there, Stelios.
Right, Sigil.
Yeah, Sigilstone17 says they are the personification of the stone toss comic of the commie staring at the blue collar worker in disgust for daring to try to shake hands.
A cruel.
That's so nice.
That's what it is.
Says, Luca is right to point out that it is remarkable when the left deviates from their normal ideology as the solution to a problem that they likely created.
Victimhood as a Mindset00:02:18
Well, cause the problem, then pose yourself as the only solution to it.
Yeah.
Fictagious, they eat themselves and each other with this victim nonsense.
Absolutely.
Also, they destroy themselves psychologically.
This is one of the things I find very pernicious in it.
And this is the first.
Day one in academia, I had a massive row with someone there, a student syndicalist from the staff.
You can understand how much, how popular I was there and how I became friends.
I said, dude, you are actually contributing to a situation where they are.
However, many material resources you give to them, you keep them perennially psychologically non liberated.
Well, this is the problem that victimhood is a mindset.
And of course, you know, there are certain things where you can argue that someone is almost certainly a victim.
Like if someone just runs up to you and punches you in the face and runs away, it's hard to argue that they're not a victim.
Whereas if you just exist in society and you don't get treatment that you feel like you deserve, that doesn't necessarily make you a victim.
But the mindset itself keeps you that way because of how it affects your psychology.
The best way to motivate yourself, and I realized this when I was a teenager, is I know the world is against me, but I've just got to be that much better to deal with it.
Yeah, and processes do matter.
And here is where these people frequently focus on the goal.
And they think that you can give incentives to people to victimize themselves for their whole lives.
If we are pretending that this is just suddenly going to go away, this habituation to the victimhood culture is going to go away if you mysteriously meet a threshold of material resources, which just isn't going to happen.
I mean, look at Hollywood, for example, just sorry to interrupt you.
You have people in Hollywood, very wealthy, multi millionaires, very comfortable lives, and they love to whinge.
It never goes away.
And it's like, you know, I've been passed up because I'm a person of color, says multi millionaire actor.
Habitation to Victim Culture00:09:27
Okay.
Base Ape says, put all these people in prison, third degree felony yapping.
Yeah.
This is a crime hate incident by them, not by Base Ape.
Sigilstone17 says, literal victim cards, and even at their own convention, the cards are being declined for lack of credit.
That's a bang for my head.
It did make me laugh that they were all focused on just disputing the cards themselves rather than actually being productive.
Like all the points of order were just like, these cards suck.
It's like, yes, this is your ideology in practice.
Also, how much work and money went into making that video glazing the last defeated head of the party?
It's like, we're not talking about that.
All right, video comments, I guess, Samson.
My mum loves a good period drama, and the news that the other Bennett sister was to be aired on the BBC was a delight for her.
It's a tawdry and petulant imagining of a possible side story to Pride and Prejudice.
Miss Bennett is a radical thinker.
I'm no fan of Austin's work on.
After visiting the museum to her in Alton and seeing the cattiness on display in her correspondence.
Nevertheless, the series will be popular for an audience starved of good dramas, with one written to target feelings rather than material.
It can't help push the worst possible advice.
The most important thing is to be yourself.
Wait a minute.
I've seen one notable thing about this drama.
Just one.
Yeah, it's that they're all white.
I thought so.
One who.
Oh.
You know, what do you notice?
What even?
No, I. Is circling that gentleman here.
It's far in the background.
Saw a few extras as well.
Okay.
Can't leave it alone.
I wasn't observing it.
It's a shame as well because the BBC genuinely did use to make such good dramas and good adaptations of work.
I mean, in particular as well, all of their adaptations of Shakespeare from the 70s and 80s are absolutely brilliant.
And yet now it's just gone to a dog's.
Mm hmm.
Another weekend gone, and another Victorian Millcon in Leek.
Probably would have made some nice flats, shopping space, office space, something like that.
But faffing around with planning permission, probably, heritage, all that, and then it just spontaneously combusts.
I'll see you at the live event and go and support my local pottery.
Nice.
I'm very happy that I put out that post about Denby and everyone picked it up.
Yeah, yeah, no good.
I saw it too.
I actually think I'll make a daily about it to try and increase awareness as well because I hate to acknowledge that no one died or was harmed.
I don't think so.
I think it's probably an insurance job, wasn't it?
You know, these fires mysteriously, you can't find a purpose of the building and it catches fire.
It keeps on happening.
That's all of them, is it, Samson?
I believe so.
All right, great.
Plenty of time for comments.
I'll start going through.
Look at that.
A whole nine minutes of clock.
You're all spoiled, aren't you?
I'm getting the hang of this timekeeping business after doing this for nearly a year.
Dirty Builder says people see the contrast.
Black line on white paper can only be seen because of its contrast to its surroundings.
If you want racism to go away, you need the creation of overt borders.
And if all those groups involved had the homeland that they could retreat to in order to get away from it, then they'd become homesick.
Yeah, I've had to paraphrase a few things on there, Builder.
You understand.
The elephant in the room here is that the only reason anyone is here is for our economy.
Given the choice, everyone would choose their own culture over someone else's.
Barring one or two fringe people, perhaps, that have a genuine admiration for Britain.
But that's not the majority of people who come here.
It's coming here for opportunity, right?
And I'm not necessarily having a go at other Europeans.
I think that we've always had some degree of mobility, mainly talking about.
The third world and immigration outside of the West.
Dreadnought Logan says, An alliance of hate is something so fragile, a Star Wars quote, is it?
Well, it's true nonetheless.
Michael de Belba says, No city is ever a utopia, but when you go from people who share a common history, culture, language, etc., cities turn into dystopia.
Yeah, and the remarkable thing about all of this is that, you know, it's not like the elites never.
Shut up about dystopias, right?
Everyone's very quick to invoke 1984 or invoke this thing or, you know, just all these things that were the worst type of societies.
And in their quest to avoid all of these fictional dystopias, they've just walked us right into a very real one of their own creation.
I mean, many dystopian fictions and pieces of media now look better than the actual reality.
Like, I saw someone talking about the game Mirror's Edge.
And actually, I'd rather live in that world than this one, even though it's meant to be a dystopia.
It's like clean streets, but a surveillance state.
You're actually safe, but the government watches you.
I mean, at this rate, at least.
I don't want the government to be watching me.
I don't want the government to be watching me.
We're supposed to be libertarian.
Yeah, well, I'd rather have a bit of security in that I don't want to be stabbed to death by a Somali in the street than.
They can read my boring emails.
Even I don't want to do that.
Henry Ashton says Seems like Shabana Mahmood is essentially saying, now I'm a bigger public figure.
More people are being mean to me.
Must be racism is getting worse now that I have a bigger profile.
What is it?
Okay.
No, it's.
I'll tell you.
Okay.
No, I mean, that could be definitely part of it.
But I do agree as well that I think we can all concur.
That there has been, for want of a better way to put it, an emboldening of rhetoric and anti foreign rhetoric over the years as well.
People are far less compromising than they were on these issues even 10 years ago.
And people that thought themselves just good members of society who were willing to go along with what the state was saying, finding them more and more in rebellion against it.
I have perhaps not the most serious point, but it has just occurred to me that most of the women on the Labour front bench have the same haircut, don't they?
Like that shiny black bob.
Shabana Mahmood has it, Rachel Reeves has it, and is it Bridget Phillips?
Oh, yeah, Philip Briggs and Briggs, I think.
The lady who's the head of the health service.
Right.
Yeah, they've all got the same haircut.
It just clicked in my mind for some reason.
I don't know why I was thinking about that while I was listening to you.
It's a bit of a weird thing to think about.
I don't have one, I've not reminded you of it.
I'm imagining it right now.
Please don't.
I see you have a little bob.
No, don't do that.
Go through some of your comments instead.
All right, all right.
AZ Deserat says if the free speech is legal and in a public space, what's wrong with it being recorded?
What's wrong is that they would use legal speech to build a criminal case, is what I was arguing.
Because if they are recording it, they see it as relevant to potential future crimes, right?
And so if they're recording anything, That is legal, then it is being used against you for criminal prosecution.
So that's not good legal speech.
This is not the kind of attentive state that we want.
No.
Michael says, and given the incredible laziness of modern police, they'll prioritize sitting on their asses and trolling social media and trolling through social media, maybe?
Trolling social media over actually going out, walking a patrol, and I don't know, stopping crime.
Yes, like burglary and things like that hardly ever gets caught.
All of the money laundering shops on our high streets, they're trying to work for it, but there's just too much of it.
Even Sanford's struggling.
I know, terrible.
TPPT says the moment they declare the new system with non crime posts will be an automated with LLMs endlessly collecting info on you and creating a case to get you on with no oversight.
Yeah, I'm very worried about.
The application of LOMs to the internet and speech more generally, because they have the capacity to monitor everything, right, that goes on in Britain with enough computational power behind them.
And so everything will be monitored, everything will be recorded.
Your case will be constantly getting updated.
If you make one statement, it'll be on your file forever.
So better make it quite an impressive one if you're going to have one.
Well, you know, you could go the full way and just say things that violate the LLM's terms of service so it won't record them.
Cringier Lord Commander Status00:03:47
Who knows?
One more then.
Hosep, name I'm not going to try and pronounce.
You're not allowed to say racist with the hard T. That's our word.
You can use the soft S, though.
I don't even know what that's referring to.
Esoteric racism.
It's just all a bit.
Yeah, rung above me, I'm afraid.
All right, you got your.
Dirty Belter.
There is a working class and then there is poor people.
This conference illustrates that difference and its consequences of character modes splendidly.
Yeah, I don't, it doesn't strike me as either, to be honest.
You have to have a level of material.
Wealth in order to go to conventions of this sort instead of going to work.
But it's a luxury belief, and they're all luxury beliefs.
Well, I mean, they're using their disability payments to go, aren't they?
Lord Inquisitor Hector Rex, Canada is sleepwalking into being replaced, and none of them seem to care.
Yep, true.
Henry Ashman says it was a perfectly legitimate question to ask.
The previous leader has put them millions in debt, so I'd be asking how much did that cost?
About an awful lot of things.
Yeah, but you would be hateful.
Well, this is really what I was trying to get at.
It's like this is a guy who's led the party to utter failure, and yet you still just have to go through the formality of giving him a ride.
He just melts.
But he's a Sikh.
Ultra self self.
Yeah, he just melts.
He's a Sikh Indian man.
He can do no wrong.
Can't you see?
He had a fluorescent pink turban.
It doesn't even matter how many things he does wrong, it'll just always be praised.
Michael Dribbleby says, passionate people with the IQs of a fruit.
I think fruit is more intelligent than them.
I don't know.
I think they've got a lot in common with fruits.
Don't read into that.
Which fruit?
Don't worry.
Fruit cakes.
Yes.
Okay, Dreadnought Logan.
I heard that Canada reimposed their carbon tax at an eye watering 28%.
Canada is such a basket case that they're taxing people even harder now.
At the pump to the point that English energy looks cheap.
That's saying something, to be honest.
Doesn't sound good.
Michael Drebobis says 13 million Canadian dollars.
What's that?
100 US dollars?
They're pretty similar in exchange rates, aren't they?
I'm not entirely sure.
I couldn't comment on that.
I haven't had to look at Canadian dollars for a while.
And EMOS?
Sorry, so please, Josh.
I was just saying it's half past now, but go ahead.
Just joshing.
Annie Moss, Swindon Grievance Factory Worker.
You had to be.
No, you couldn't be in that conference.
No.
Stellius, regarding your segment, well done.
You have solidified your cringe Lord Commander status.
This Canadian party is pick cringe.
I think that you can find cringier ones.
The cringier one is, of course, the German leftist who was in a public toilet and did something which I'm not going to say, but you can find online.
Ultra cringe.
And then I like the vibes of the German conference with Alexandra.
Is that Delinka?
Yeah, Delinka, yeah.
That was awesome.
Well, thank you to our cringe correspondent, Stelios, for the news today.
Thank you.
Yeah, thanks for joining, Josh, as well.
And I hope you've enjoyed the show, ladies and gentlemen.
Do get your tickets for the live event, and we look forward to joining you for the podcast at 1 pm tomorrow.