Dominic Cummings’ voter research reveals Brits underestimate immigration (5x–30x), debt, and institutional failures while distrusting Westminster’s net-zero and SW1 consensus, despite no party offering credible alternatives. His "doom loop" theory—elites pushing unpopular policies like mass migration while blaming voters for backlash—contrasts with Reform UK’s Farage-led decline (73% support but weak polling) versus Kemi Badenoch’s rise. Cummings warns of potential financial crisis or unrest unless insiders break their self-delusion, mocking "woke" narratives (e.g., Star Trek’s 4.3/10 IMDb score, Snow White’s $130M loss) and Jaguar’s 97.5% sales drop under an Indian CEO’s rebrand. Meanwhile, elephants exhibit learned racial/gender biases—fearing Maasai men but not women—raising questions about whether human ideological divides mirror animal instincts, like crows’ inherited aggression toward researchers. [Automatically generated summary]
Hello everyone, welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters.
Today is Friday the 13th of February and I'm pleased to be joined today by brother Josh and brother Nick.
Word.
What's up my brother?
Oh good.
I'm happy you like the title now.
I was never against it.
Yeah but you were a bit unnerved.
I think it was because you said it in such a flat way that it seemed almost like a cult initiation.
Yeah, that's what I liked about it.
I thought it was a cult.
Exactly.
Hello and welcome to the community.
Today we're going to have a really fun one.
We're going to talk about how it's time to wake up.
Here it is.
Diversity fatigue, which is a favorite topic of yours.
And also when the elephant began to hate.
I'm going to address the elephant in the room.
And before we talk about how it's time to wake up, three o'clock, we have Lad's hour about the Martian Constitution.
We have a very pensive Elon there, a very nice Sweeney, but I have said before that when she's insufficiently revealing, this isn't exactly the best marketing pitch.
It's the most Mediterranean thing I've ever heard you say.
Yeah, so be with us at 3 p.m.
What is the Martian constitution?
What's the Martian constitution?
I spoke to Dan about this and he's basically saying how would we design our Mars space colony if we were in charge of it.
Okay.
Good.
Should we move to the first segment?
Yeah, happy to.
So today, I'm asking, when will the normies wake up?
So I thought about calling this when the normie begins to hate, but you already had when the elephant begins to hate.
So I was like, right, we can't use that.
Yeah, I've gone one step into greater obscurity there, haven't I?
Yeah, so that is my working title, but someone's called it time to wake up.
And what it is, Dominic Cummings did a load of research and focus groups, and he found the overall takeaway, which kind of ruins the whole piece, but I'll just give you anyway.
The overall takeaway is that voters are furious with Westminster.
They hate the politicians, but they vastly underestimate how bad things actually are in terms of things like immigration numbers or the debt, etc.
So although they hate politicians, there is scope for them to hate them way more when they realise how bad it really is.
I can certainly believe it because the people who know me in life who don't really follow politics either think like, you know, I get where you're coming from.
But it's a bit much, mate.
Yeah, they think it's a bit strong.
Like, does it really warrant that?
But then they live in areas where they're insulated from the worst excesses of it and they don't see it on social media and the likes.
And so there's lots of scope and people forget this, particularly people who follow politics, particularly people who follow low seaters.
Not everyone is necessarily like us and keeping an eye on the goings on in the world.
And in fact, most people will sit down and watch the TV and not question anything.
Almost no one's like us, to be fair.
Exactly.
We follow it all day, so we forget.
And so what he's done, he's tried to get away from his prejudices and just say, okay, what do people actually think?
He's calling it regime change 26 to 29 results from a market research project.
At the start, he gives a kind of sort of gonzo sampling.
I don't know what you call it, it's a kind of poetic sampling of just different things people have said.
Like they've said, yeah, it's harder to get a GP appointment than tickets for one direction.
Or I don't think Farage is far right.
I'm branded far right, but I'm not.
It's the kind of thing people are saying.
Like, is Farage a team player?
He'll find it very hard to be PM.
It's like MPs hate us, they're not on our side.
Or this is a really good one.
I live in a village called X. In 10 years, it's been overrun.
We now call it Halal X.
It's a small English village, but it's now got mosques.
There's Rose and an Edge.
There's White Flight.
And it basically says, I'm selling my house.
I'm leaving.
The people who've arrived don't want to live by our rules and are not working.
It's a real sample of the kind of things people are saying.
He also gives this great quote from T.S. Eliot.
Culture of Europe has deteriorated visibly within the memory of many who are by no means the oldest among us.
There's no doubt that now heading headlong rush to educate everybody, we're lowering our standards and more and more abandoning the study of those subjects by which the essentials of our culture are transmitted, destroying our ancient edifices to make ready the ground upon which the barbarian nomads of the future will encamp in their mechanized caravans.
That may as well have been written yesterday.
Yeah.
That's very prophetic, isn't it?
Elliot.
I'm very impressed.
Yeah, that was notes on education and culture.
Funny thing about that is Elliott was considered decadent and modernist, of course, by the likes of C.S. Lewis, who hated Elliott's work.
And, you know, it was like 30s disillusionment.
Now it seems like he was, of course, super based and relatively pre-decadent.
Yeah, I'm of the opinion that we've been on a sort of cultural decline since the 19th century, really, in many aspects.
Like it's not been some sort of linear progression, and then as soon as we lose World War II, you know, all of a sudden the bad stuff starts happening.
Right.
Oh, did I say lose?
I mean, win.
Yeah, yeah.
Whoops.
I'm too tired.
I missed that.
But yeah, lose, yeah.
Win.
I mean, all of Europe lost World War II, is my point there.
Yeah, you find that 1930s, so much disillusionment post-World War I and just people losing confidence in the West.
But as you say, it goes back even further.
So yeah, so that's a sample of what he found.
And of course, he quotes Welbeck as well, then Michelle Wilbeck.
It's the second and third generation immigrants that are making trouble.
We're witnessing deassimilation.
It's a catastrophe.
So what comes that he took a deep market research here and he's giving you that and some sketches from Westminster and his usual views on the elite.
It's nice to see him writing in language that is actually readable, unlike his tweets.
I know.
I know he has that kind of shorthand that's quite hard to understand sometimes.
I'm just trying to get to the here we go.
So here's a first key bit.
British politics is in a doom loop similar to many Western countries.
A, the deafening verdict of voters in election after election, Brexit, Trump 1 and 2, etc.
And the drop in support for all parties everywhere is that insiders have failed and voters want change.
A failure of ideas, institutions and operational competence.
A failure to take or impose responsibility for failure, CF, Iraq, Afghanistan, financial crisis, COVID, Ukraine, etc.
Old parties, old state bureaucracies, old institutions of all kinds from the EU and NATO to the media and universities have seen an epic collapse of trust.
So that's the failure of the elites.
And B, insiders' response to this repeated verdict, it's A, dubbing down on more of the things voters keep rejecting, especially importing men from the worst places on earth.
B, an increasingly deranged discussion among themselves that the real problem is actually the voters because fooled by disinformation, Russian interference, tech oligarchs, etc., they have embraced populism, racism, fascism.
And C, the solution is to restore trust in insiders' ideas and institutions and give them more power and money.
And then C, those outsiders who want to replace this doom loop between voters and insiders can't coordinate to build a political entity to do it.
So that's him laying out the terrain.
I think he's being charitable, particularly in part A there, in saying that it's a failure rather than a deliberate strategy to basically open up the country into a great big cattle farm where we're milked for all we're worth financially by a select few elites.
Yeah, what's really interesting about that was Larry Fink gave that speech at the World Economic Forum where he said, oh, the countries with xenophobic immigration policies, exact quote, will fare better when AI and robotics come along more and more because they'll have declining native populations and they won't have this large, effectively surplus immigrant population who will become surplus when AI and robotics develop.
So he says they'll cope with it better.
It makes me wonder.
Combined with Jim Ratcliffe's comments the other day, which seemed a bit more rogue, but on the same note, we're being colonized, he said.
So you go, are billionaires starting to go, oh, actually, we've got to now back out of this immigration experiment.
And he also added that they will face less social tensions.
Which is a tacit admission that this is something that creates social tensions.
Yeah.
Well, it's not even a revelation that with the dawn of AI and automation, you don't need as many workers.
I could have told you this when I was about 12 years old.
So the idea that they didn't know that this was the thing is absurd.
I think, you know, they might not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but they're smart enough to know that at the very least.
They are, yeah, definitely.
But the issue is, why are they saying it now?
That's something interesting.
They also knew.
There's a pivot in agenda.
I think what actually happens is the pressure is kept for as long as possible and it's only relented when it absolutely has to be to keep things sustained.
Like if you think of everything as sustaining a resource extraction operation, then the entire politics and economy make perfect sense.
Right.
So they went for it because it was low wages, but then when it becomes too much social pressure, the whole thing's going to collapse.
So they have to back out and change it.
Exactly.
Yeah, that seems plausible.
So Cummings goes on.
To voters, insiders are the villains, and insider failure is the cause of the collapse of their trust.
To insiders, they are the produced victims.
And the cause of the collapse of trust is the evil treachery of other elites, the interference of evil foreigners, Putin did Brexit, and the ignorance and stupidity of voters.
Insiders destroyed their own OODA loops.
He's obsessed with the phrase OODA loops, meaning this decision-making, no OODA, it's a four-part decision-making process.
Actually coined by a colonel in the 70s.
I can't remember which each O stands for, but it's like decide act.
It's like a four-part decision-making strategy.
It's the kind of thing that is this sort of weird acronym.
It's this sort of corporate news speak almost.
It reminds me of 1984, and I feel it doesn't get nearly enough hate.
I see it as like see it, say it sorted on the trains.
It fills me full of abject hatred.
Right, well, Cummings likes a shorthand, doesn't he?
So it means, by the way, observe, orient, decide, act.
And it was coined by a more like see it, say it, and it won't be sorted.
That's true.
Anyway, the point is, insiders destroyed their own OODA loops.
They radicalized left, but can't see it.
So their entire orientation is off-kilter.
Ironically, it wouldn't be hard to be a popular government, but the changes needed are fiercely resisted in a pathological, self-defeating pattern by political bureaucratic elites because of the stories they believe, the powerful forces of mimesis which surround them, and the disintegration of feedback mechanisms, e.g., stopping the boat is operational child's play, doable in days according to UK forces asked to plan to stop them, not even in the hundred most complex, difficult government problems.
And the entire problem is insiders' determination to prioritize keeping the legal barriers to solving the problem, particularly the ECHR and the Human Rights Act.
He's often making that claim that it's quite simple, operationally gone.
And that's not even the ECHR.
It's entirely an issue of people, because if you focus on Article 8 of the ECHR, the right to have a family and private life, it doesn't say that there are no conditions under which someone can be deported.
It said that they are conditional upon the common good and economic stability, economic well-being.
So ECHR Article 8 isn't the kind of naive humanitarian article that lots of these people are appealing to.
That's why you also address it.
That's why it's fundamentally an issue of people.
Right, but that's also why I add to Human Rights Act because we are tied to the ECHR in a weird way that even like Denmark are not because of our Human Rights Act.
So there's also that as well, which makes our, it's not just article, it's the interplay.
Tony Blair in 1998, wasn't it?
That's Tony.
Yeah.
So to go on, but of course you're right ultimately.
But to go on, voters, is that a bit worth reading out?
Let's just have a look.
Voters think we keep voting for change, but they won't change.
When politicians try to change even modestly, they find it almost impossible to make the state bureaucracies evolve since 1945 follow orders.
What are you laughing at?
I'm laughing at the formulation.
A lot of people think this way, but it's just so childish.
What's childish?
Just so non-specific.
We won't change and things don't change.
You're talking about lots of, you know, quote-unquote normies.
Yeah.
And some of them do think this way.
Yeah, I know, that's the thing.
Gone.
Change as a slogan, obviously, that was very associated with Obama, but it's just such an if you hear that in any political context, just like I'm here to change, and you don't specify what the change is and how you're going to do it, it's just meaningless.
There's no point taking Starman.
We're not seeing what can be unburdened by what has been.
Yeah, true.
Stalma even talks about change, and he's the least changed candidate ever.
It doesn't make any sense.
And yeah, I mean, and you had Kamala running on change when, yeah, she was the Democrat and then they were in power.
It's like, what are you talking about?
So it's nonsense.
And he's always saying how it's part of this long-term cycle of regime change, similar to the 1878 40s to 70s.
So he's talking about we're in this long pattern of collapse.
We're in a holding pattern.
The long-term entropic forces of Westminster's pathological vandalism demonstrate themselves weakly in a torrent of humiliation.
Westminster has made us a tragic comic global internet meme.
Westminster watches itself to see how it will react to the uselessness of two more duds in charge of the two old rotten parties.
Yeah, I mean, we have become a joke because of this.
The funny thing is, if you re-watch something like the thick of it, the government seems more competent there in comedic satire than the actual reality these days.
Yeah, certainly Starmer's last week.
And this was before Stalma's last week that this was written.
So think about it now with McSweeney gone and Wurmold and just the catastrophe of Starma at the moment.
So he goes on about Farage as well here.
This is important for all these reform cultists who always tweet me.
Farage tells people after May, reform will start showing a transformation.
Yet he's spent his time recruiting some of the worst Tory dregs to help him persuade voters to vote for change.
The voters are more angry and desperate than ever, but Westminster can't cope with the feedback.
That's exactly it.
Farage, this is what he said in point C. He's like, we need a new elite to be serious.
And so far, they've hired James Orr, who's good, but he alone can't build an entire team.
And Farage just wants to get a load of ex-Tories.
And not even the best extra Tories.
Some of them are good, like Suella Bravman relatively good, but then you'll get Nazim Zahari.
And you're like, what are you doing?
Reform Cultists and Voter Desperation00:15:04
What is the plan?
Yeah, I mean, people that, in my opinion, should be on trial for their crimes in office are being welcomed with open arms.
And also, what kind of strategy is it to say, listen, we know we're bad now, but in May we're going to get better.
Yeah.
I don't know if he's not framing it like that.
Or maybe try and get better before elections come up.
Yeah, it's a really weird thing to say.
Atonement.
Beyond that now.
He goes on, elites have fragmented and many now also want something radically different.
But this process is different in different countries.
In America, it's been accelerated by Elon and the MAGA Silicon Valley Network.
In Britain, there's a lot of private whining at dinner parties, but very little public action.
Most people with money and or talent have kept hoping vainly that the old system might fix itself and don't want to make enemies.
Starmer has scuppered that hope, but there remains no clear solution.
So, again, the Jim Ratcliffe thing interesting here, because is that an example finally of a billionaire, definitely part of the elite, at least financially, to go, hang on, this is ridiculous for being con lies.
So maybe a little bit of a seeping out from the private dinner parties, maybe.
But notice he's been attacked brutally by absolutely everyone.
The vanguard is going to be people who've got nothing to lose, which is young people, right?
People maybe mid-30s, younger, people of my sort of age, where we just don't care anymore.
What have we got to lose?
No house, no prospects.
So who cares if people judge us for our political opinions?
It doesn't have any tangible effect on our life unless we get arrested.
And so I think that that's going to be where the frontiers are going to be pushed, as well as, you know, some of the sort of distant activists.
And then slowly the elites will follow because I think that's the way in Britain things work is that things have to be acceptable and then all of a sudden lots of people are okay to support it.
And it's got to be, dare I say, a more organic movement even though I have some cynicism about these sorts of things.
Interesting.
I mean, the danger is, of course, young people just leave or vote green.
Those are a couple of the dangers.
But you're right.
Some of them will go based and say, we've got nothing to lose.
Let's just get on Lotus Eaters.
So, yeah, so this, let's just read this bit as well.
The gap between what's A, what's really needed to solve our problems and B, what's acceptable in insider dinner parties is relentlessly growing.
It's much bigger than in 2020.
So, yeah, that's pretty much the same point.
That's an interesting place to draw it as well, because I've long said that 2020 was a good year for the right.
And you might be saying, what is wrong with you?
We were locked down.
There was Black Lives Matter.
But of course, Pandora's box was opened and now it can't be closed.
And people hate the government more than they ever did for the pandemic.
And Black Lives Matter is now dead.
And it's opened the door for basically white identity in that you're allowed now to say, listen, I'm English.
I'm proud of it.
There's nothing to be ashamed of.
That's not enough to get you cancelled and things like that.
People have been forced into it by just a relentless attack on white people from all possible quarters or English people.
The way most people view it, I think, is that we did honestly try to get along with everyone.
And then we realised, oh, it's not reciprocal.
And now it's our turn to play their games.
And when they're saying white people need to get out of the countryside, there's too many white people in the country.
It's very aggressively not reciprocal.
And that's not even from different races.
That's from central planning organisations that just say we want to cleanse you out of your homeland.
You're like, oh, OK, I think that's and everyone's noticing.
That's terrible.
That makes me want to go the way of my ancestors and cover myself in woad and march on Westminster.
You can do that if you want, as long as we film it.
So another key bit here is I think it will be resolved this year coming says whether A, Starma and Kemi are binned, as I said, what happened last year and the two old parties are irreversibly splintering.
B, Farage's promises are true or the cynics are right and it's clear that a reform government would just be another SW1 clown show.
See whether elite fragmentation generates a serious alternative or D, if not, then the rush to the exit of talent and money will accelerate as people realize that the next election is heading for either a Farage clown show or a red, green, yellow, Hamas, Troon, Scott, Nat Rainbow Coalition, raising the probability of financial crisis and street violence, which may arrive anyway before then, given SW1's disintegration.
A lot to look forward to there.
Well, I mean, that's a long run on sentence, isn't it?
A lot in there.
I mean, when it comes to the probability of street violence, I don't think that it's going to be the red, green, yellow, Hamas, Troon.
If you say that three times in a mirror, a red, green, yellow, Hamas, Troon, Scott, Nat, Rainbow Coalition.
I don't know what appears behind you, but you just need to run.
He's not saying that.
I mean, he's not necessarily linking those.
He's saying there'll be financial crisis and then there'll be street run because people are even more unhappy and all the same things are happening, but they've got no money.
Yes.
I mean, by the way, if we have time, I'll just look at why actually Kemi weirdly is polling well in the head to heads.
But Starmer, since he wrote this, has gone, as I said, gone even worse and totally collapsed and bizarrely is hanging on.
So let me get on to the key part, which is about how the voters here we go.
So let's just get to this bit.
Those who consider themselves the serious, sensible people of SW1, i.e. those who radicalize sharply left post-2015 towards Greta Gaza trans, but think the problem is voters radicalizing right have continued their post-referendum doubling down and persuaded themselves of new fictions regarding immigration, including the idea that the polls showing voter concern over immigration reflects media coverage, which makes them greatly overestimate the scale of immigration.
If you believe this, then you naturally believe other things about what's happening and what political entities should do.
So that's insane, by the way, because everyone who asks members of the public who don't know any better, how much immigration do you think we're getting a year, it's like 70,000 or like some people are like 10,000, 15,000, just like out of your mind?
No, it's near the millions.
That is exactly what he says.
So he says, I suspected this is delusional.
So I decided to see what voters think about this hypothesis.
I was surprised how deluded.
I think what you said, Josh, reminds me of the it isn't happening.
It's happening, but not to a large extent.
And then it's happening and it's a good thing.
Lots of people are really susceptible to the propaganda of it is happening, but not to a bad degree.
I think kind of messaging at the moment.
I think.
And this will at some point go to it is happening and it's a good thing, just like we saw in Spain and in France and many other places.
I think people are very bad at knowing numbers, generally speaking.
And I'm saying this as a psychologist.
People can't estimate probability very well.
People don't know really, you know, back of notepad measures of scale.
And so most people struggle to comprehend the nature of these things just by it being an aspect of human nature that people don't know how to figure these things out.
And I think by merit of we know the statistics, we're in this sphere, we know the scale, we know the demographics.
But if you actually think about it, we're looking at things like percentage of the population, population growth, and how the minority populations are growing, how we're not having, you know, white British are not having children and so they're going to be outbred eventually.
Most people don't even conceive of those things happening in the first place.
We also understand what per capita means.
That's true.
That is one handicap the left seems to really struggle with.
I don't know what it is, but it's like a precursor to being left-wing.
You just don't understand per capita.
I actually say people just don't know.
I mean, numbers, I mean, during COVID, people were saying, oh, yeah, I think how many people are is it 10% dying or is it people like 50%?
People are like crazy figures when you saw how many people they thought were dying.
I remember seeing some mad figures and I was like, no, it's like point, you know, they were just way, way off.
I remember explaining it to my parents and the BBC had that big death figure, didn't it?
It was like 100,000 people have died.
And then I explained to them what that is as a percentage of the population.
And they're like, oh, okay.
And I said, do you know how many people die of flu at this time every year?
About an equivalent number.
And then all of a sudden, they realized, oh, wait, this number is just meant to scare us.
And of course, the people at BBC News understand that.
And they admitted through the behavioural insights team that they used fear tactics.
And it's because it's unmoored because people don't have a basis to understand the figure.
Whereas actually, were you to contextualize it, like what they should have done if they were to have this big, scary number would be, here is the equivalent flu figures for last year, or here's another thing that we've measured in the past to contextualize.
And then people are like, oh, okay.
So it's, I don't know, marginally worse than the flu.
Yeah, but they wanted to do the exact opposite, as you say.
So, and very much on this theme, this is the key bit.
I suspected this is delusional, meaning Westminster idea.
So I decided to see what voters think about this hypothesis.
I was surprised by how diluted.
It turns out that the mainstream voters I explored actually greatly underestimate the scale of immigration.
And not by 10% or 30%, but by a factor between 5x and 30x.
So over and over, normal voters estimate the scale of immigration since January 21 at 200,000, 50,000, 300,000, 100,000, 700,000, 250,000, aye, roughly 5 times or 30 times lower than it is.
And when they are shown the real numbers and graphs since 1997 and 2021, million after million after million, they are almost all shocked.
They aren't buying diversity as our strength.
They are much more hostile to labour and toys and much more supportive of much stronger measures than most Tory MPs.
So that's the key part.
Oh, sorry to interrupt.
I was just going to point out that there was a very interesting psychology study looking at depressive realists.
And actually they found that people who were clinically depressed were much better at estimating the likelihood of bad things happening.
And so things like natural disasters, that you know, five to thirty times underguessing was adjusted for by the fact that they were miserable.
So actually listen to cynical people because they understand numbers better, apparently.
That's why I know I'm totally pessimistic and just get it right every time.
I mean I said to my parents like, you know, how woke was so crazy because I was in the comedy industry and they didn't believe me and then a few years later they believe me.
But you're ahead of the curve if you're pessimistic.
Yeah, so the lack of voter knowledge combined with what voters do think and know is an indictment of SW1.
But here he suggests having a version of the 350 million on the side of the bus that he did for Brexit, but for immigration rather than the NHS.
But the key bit I want to get onto, I know it's going a bit long, so let's just get onto the key bit.
Well, it's that bit plus this.
Voters are angry and more fearful and more hateful of Westminster than ever before.
On the other hand, they greatly underestimate the real scale of immigration.
They're almost totally unaware of the insane immigration cases regarding sex criminals and murderers and terrorists.
They do not understand the scale of the debt.
They're mad about the scale of benefits cheating, but greatly underestimate its scale.
They don't understand the depth of vandalism of the armed forces.
They understand problems with the police better than MPs, but still underestimate them.
They become more realistic about the NHS and the implications of immigration and aging for it, but don't trust any mainstream political force to make significant changes.
They become much more hostile to SW1's consensus on net zero, but don't realise the scale of mad costs SW1 locked us into and how hard it will be to change to sensible policies on energy and environment.
So here's the key.
Although voters are more pessimistic than ever and more realistic than insiders, they're not realistic enough about the extent of the rot.
So there is scope for hatred of both old parties, sorry, both old parties to grow a lot and desire for something new to grow a lot.
And this dynamic is demonstrated in groups when one talks them through various things.
So in other words, the good news from this piece is there's still a lot of room for the normie to hate far more than they already are when they realize the full your homework, your Lotus Eater's homework for the weekend is go out and make a normie hateful.
Yeah.
And this, as he says, this was before the resurrection of the Epstein scandal in the last week.
This was a Feb 7, this article.
So it's before even this latest week of PDF protectors, as the people are now calling the Labour MPs on the doorstep now.
They're calling them the PDF Protector Party.
Adobe enthusiasts.
Yeah, and all I was gonna, we don't have time for now, but in case that bit ran short, I was just gonna say he was actually weirdly slightly wrong on Kemi because she's suddenly had a huge boost and is beating Farage and Starmer in polls.
And if you look at the graphs, she ends up beating them weirdly head to head in all of them.
Although if you go down you find that overall Farage is still just ahead.
But what you sort of take away is that Kemi's like the second choice of everyone, like the Lib Dems, Greens, Labour, whereas Farage is just Farage cult for reform voters, but no one else likes him.
That's what you end up coming away with.
Farage should be steamrollering everyone here, really.
He should be doing better.
And of course, he's still leading, so it's not nothing.
But with Kemi Badenock's leadership, it's been pretty lackluster.
Kier Starmer is the most unpopular person ever conceived of.
And Ed Davey is a buffoon.
He's like a court jester.
Polanski is insane, you know, wanting to just ban being a landlord and things like that.
extremely radical policies that would get you locked up in a padded room only five years ago.
So who are his competition?
Why is he doing so poorly?
Well, Kemi's managed to bounce back a bit just by being super sensible, saying we're the sensible ones, we're not doing drama.
And like Starma's falling apart, no one really trusts Farage is going to be going to deliver the goods.
So she's just saying, we're sensible.
And she's almost more popular than the Tories now as an individual.
But Greens are so radical that even Polanski, Polanski gets 29, but none of them gets 44.
They still want someone else, hypothetical, which is extraordinary.
So anyway, that's coming.
Whereas Reform Vote was 73 Farage, very sort of, you know, into Farage.
Cult of personality, isn't it, to a certain extent?
Yeah.
And you just don't see that same level of enthusiasm in the other parties.
You see none of them.
And none of them still wins overall, by the way, amongst all Britons, quite comprehensively.
So anyway, some predictions from Cummings.
And Normie's get hating more.
Find out the facts.
Like you say, red pill your normie friend with immigration stats at the dinner party.
All right, that's my bit.
Do you want to read your comments?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, there aren't maybe that many because I think it was quite a dense and weird bit.
But a drunk changeling says theoretical utopian constitutions are just, I don't even understand that.
First sonas for poly sci majors.
Polyamorous Refugee in Starfleet00:12:09
I don't know what hear those words mean.
I unfortunately do.
A first sona is like a persona of a furry.
I sort of guess that might be what it was.
Yeah, the fact I know this just makes me feel.
I've had to learn about jester gooning this week, and now I have to learn this.
I've been too exposed to the internet now.
I've been totally frame-mogged by that comment.
So that's a random name says, even if reform wins, they are containment.
And if we get another Southport on top of a subversive reform government, I fail to see how another election will take place without violence erupting.
Thoughts, question mark.
Probably can't say our thoughts about going to jail, but yeah.
The half cation says, I suspect every year we get closer to the centennial of World War II, the consensus is dying out and less people care or will care about the old post-war nonsense.
That Stephanie has.
You need to check your cortisol levels.
They were totally spiked by some of those comments.
Ignore the Moids.
Ignore the Moids.
I need to start mogging Moids.
Stirwell frame-mogging.
No, I find this insistent on mogging Moids while ignoring Freuds to be very gay.
Yes.
Just focus on Void.
Focus on, yeah.
Ignore Moids.
Sorry, I don't speak French.
What is this?
Focus on holding your voice.
You have to keep up.
Focus on jester goony with Freud is saying rather than mogging moids and Chad Fishing your best MPs.
Thanks for clearing it up right so Please Please don't jester Max during my segment.
That's all I've got.
You're saying that to a comedian.
Is this working?
Again, technology fatigue.
Technology mugged.
It's all working.
It's just a boomer.
It's all working well.
Boomer fatigue.
I'm very tired.
I find it all so tiresome.
And I'm feeling DEI fatigued.
Diversity, equity, and inclusivity.
It's tiresome.
I don't want everyone to be the same, but I just resent the forceful nature of it.
just absolutely resent it.
Everything that the woke touch, the eternity, they have the reverse Midas touch.
They completely destroy it.
And I'm going to show you today a wealth of things that they have destroyed, but we'll end with a positive note because I'm fundamentally an optimist and I want to end with a white pill.
Guys, how do you feel about DEI fans?
I love it.
It's great.
Wait, what podcast am I on again?
Oh, no.
I hate it.
And if anything, I feel like what it truly is about, it's like if I put my they live glasses on, they're actually aviators.
What I actually see when I've got the glasses on is accept minorities.
That's what it's all about, really, isn't it?
It's just like, yeah.
Minorities are secretly like you, except when in reality we've written them to be like you, but they're not actually in real life.
Just accept them.
Don't think critically.
But of course, the philosophy there is that exposing people to different cultures makes them like them.
And it's actually the opposite.
If you look at any point in human history, exposure to a foreign culture usually leads to conflict.
One might even suspect it's a part of human nature.
What do you think, Nick?
Well, I was just looking for a couple of tweets.
I can't find them.
But what I've seen recently is, you know, those sort of advert, like stock pictures where it's like, oh, it's an Aryan blonde woman and a black guy.
You know, it's always that combination.
They're getting more and more ridiculous.
I saw like attractive blonde woman with a guy who looked, it wasn't that he was black, he just looked like he'd come off a boat.
You know what I mean?
He didn't even look sort of well-groomed.
You see, they're getting more ridiculous.
They're getting more ridiculous.
They're like, oh, here's an obvious, here's just a typical family.
And it's like, oh, it's the, it's a Heidi Klume or something.
It's like a blonde model.
You know, it's 80s Pam Ranison with like a boat migrant.
They're getting more and more ridiculous.
It'll be like this, you know, Scandinavian tool model with a Papua New Guinean tribesman.
And they're just like, yeah, that's normal.
You're a bigot for pointing out that that doesn't happen in real life.
Have you watched the new Star Trek Starfleet Academy?
I have not.
I've seen the clips.
It's so bad.
Have you seen it?
Right.
So here on IMDb, it has 4.3 out of 10 rating.
And it was just aired.
And normally on IMDb, there are lots of people who like something and they instantly go, they put it 8-9, best series, burvie ever made.
And then it drops down a bit.
But this took 4.3 out of 10.
And let us see what it is about.
It says young cadets train to become Starfleet officers as they deal with friendships, rivalries, and romance, all while facing a mysterious threat to both the Academy and the Federation.
Is the mysterious threat DEI policy?
Starfleet.
Look, the critics gave it an 88% on the average tomatometer, but the people gave it a 43% on the average popcorn meter.
So you see again the divergence, the disparity between what the critics and those who are doing top-down, top-down, top-down policy propaganda think and what the people think.
I've heard they even rig the people on sometimes.
You can't even trust that anymore.
That's true, yeah.
Also, I'd like to point out how elegantly you said tomato meter there.
It's just wonderful.
What you made it sounds good.
You made it sound elegant and intellectual.
Of course, I'm a Euromaxer.
Don't correct me.
Elegance is part of me.
It's who I am.
Right, and look at this elegant sensitive young man here, vomiting glitter.
It's just, this is part of the new Star Trek.
That's how I react when I walk over one of those rainbow zebra crossings.
Right, this is actually Star Trek.
I'm not making AI memes.
Right, you know the Klingens?
The Klingens were a warlike race.
Yes.
And they were very violent.
And they had to keep that.
That's the Klingon cadet.
Allow me to defend this.
If they were very violent, perhaps him being in an address isn't such a far-out idea, given what happened recently.
Yeah, but he is a polyamorous refugee here.
That's not realistic.
I've seen clips, I still don't believe that's real.
It is real.
It is real.
It's incredible.
Also, in a skirt.
That is beyond parody.
I know that phrase is used too much, but that is.
Look at also this face here.
Are they going to spike my drinks?
I don't want to wake up in a stranger's bed.
The beta Klingon here.
Right.
Okay, so let's move forward.
You see here that they made also this Klingon a pacifist who is sticking it up to the privileged white guy of the academy.
Sticking it up.
Klingons basically a deeply hierarchical patriarchal.
I meant that metaphorically, but I haven't watched it, so there could be some parts of it.
Maybe he put glitter inside him, and that's why this guy started vomiting it here.
This guy would have not lasted.
He'd have been, the Klingons would have like thrown him on the scrap heap.
It's a brutally patriarchal, war-like, hierarchical culture, isn't it?
In the Klingons.
Yeah, but that's the issue with Woke.
They constantly want to say, let's destroy stereotype.
Nick, you're operating with stereotypes.
You need to crush them stereotypes.
Even fictional stereotypes.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Because, Josh, you come here, you expect a Klingon to be warrior-like and violent, but behind the facade of violence and toughness could lie a sensitive young man.
So I remember when Worf came on to the old, that was considered quite progressive because he wasn't just killing everyone.
He was actually one of the goodies.
You remember Worf.
He integrated his Jungian shadow or something.
Here we have the downgrade.
Look at this.
Back in the day, Klingens were fearless, honor-seeking warriors.
Now the way it dresses.
I hate what the entertainment industry has become.
They don't make these Klingens no more.
Apparently, writing sort of aspirational male characters has gone out the window, really.
It's all an issue of destroying stereotypes.
To be fair, one thing I have found refreshing is that new Game of Thrones spin-off series is really good.
And the men aren't comfortable.
Oh, yeah, I've heard with the normal bloke as the star.
He's just like a normal man who tries to do the right thing.
Yeah.
And he's a real-life rugby player or something.
Yeah, that's right, and all of a sudden I'm just like, wow, a likeable male protagonist that is actually... Magic formula.
It's kind of like Cummings said about if any party just does any normal stuff, it would smash it, but they can't.
If anyone just makes a normal series with a normal bloke.
I think the high peak of cinema was Lord of the Rings.
Then it went downhill and then with Woken's went very steeply downhill.
I think what's happened is a similar thing that has happened with music for me in that if it's mainstream, it's terrible.
I'm going to sound like such a hipster.
Shut up.
Use a hipster.
If it's mainstream, it's probably going to be rubbish.
But if it's, you know, the upper end of niche, you know, popular but niche, then that's the sort of sweet spot.
I'm thinking, like, in terms of film directors like Robert Eggers, like, he's not top billing, but he makes great films that are actually, you know, faithful.
Mainstream ended about 2011.
In 2011, you get Margin Call, Warrior, and Moneyball, and these are still really good films.
And then after that, it gets very edgy, dodgy, it gets worse, gone.
So look at the Klingen here.
Right now, he represents the polyamorous refugee.
So he's a love migrant.
Probably the OG Klingens weren't happy with his orientation and his whatever.
Love migrant.
Yeah, it says here he's a polyamorous refugee.
He has too much love to give.
He's going to move around.
Right.
Let's move forward.
We have news about Snow White.
Now, that's not a part of it.
Isn't exactly news because Snow White completely bombed.
But I'm going to also contextualize before I give you the new news.
Right, so you know Rachel Ziegler.
I do, yeah.
Yes?
Yes, I'm aware of that.
Right, so she has made several comments and she destroyed Snow White.
Look at this here.
IMDb, 2.2 out of 10.
394,000 reviews.
Rates.
These executives need to realize that by using a named entity, there's no guarantee anymore that you're going to be able to cash in on that name.
And actually, people see it as just, oh, right, they're just trying to do this for money.
Like, you can just ask a normal person on the street, say, why are they doing a live-action remake of Snow White?
Money.
Oh, right.
Yeah, well, that was easy.
It possibly didn't help that she, on her whole publicity tour, trashed the original film, the whole concept, and just said it was awful and was incredibly obnoxious.
She said Prince Charming didn't help.
He was a stalker.
Yeah.
That Snow White didn't need to be saved by men.
She didn't need to be held by the Huntsman, the Seven Dwarves, and also Prince Charming.
We don't like the whole thing.
She also said that she watched the 1937 original once.
Yeah.
And she wanted to completely.
I mean, why don't you just wear a dress and go and kill zombies or something?
I mean, the original Snow White was an aspirational story for Indian men because Prince Charming comes along and kisses a sleeping woman.
Am I allowed to say that?
Almost certainly not.
Modi will look at Starma's distracted.
Otherwise, you go directly to J. You'll have nightmares of Modi.
Straight to the Star McGroul.
Okay, so 2.2 out of 10 is just atrocious.
And she also said something else.
She said that Trump and Trump supporters should know no peace.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that wasn't exactly good marketing.
Velvet Underground's Woke Touch00:02:27
So look at him.
Alienate half of America.
That'll go down well.
She even got attacked for that because things had turned a little bit more than she realized.
According to initial estimations, this created a $130 million loss.
It says here $336 million gross dollars.
And here, box office, $205.7 million.
Now, we don't exactly know what amount they spent in marketing.
That's the production.
Normally, the rule of thumb is you double the production budget for marketing.
And so they probably made a pretty substantial loss there.
And here we have people who are saying something like, you look at her here.
She tries, she thinks she's mogging OG Snow White, but she isn't.
And they're saying that they estimated between 115 to 140.
Some people say it's somewhere like 170.
We won't know exactly, but the point is, it's the woke reverse Midas touch.
Everything they touch turns to the gutter.
I think it's fair to say she should know no peace.
Right, let's go to cars.
You remember what happened with Jaguar?
Of course, they made their cars gay.
Right, so Jaguarism, it's supposed to be elegant, speed, you know, just design kind of old English.
It's kind of old English vibes.
Yeah, like if I were to pick a car that would be my day-to-day, it'd be like an 80s or 90s jag, racing green, of course.
It's like you're retired from MI5.
You're in the country.
But isn't Aston Martin that James?
No, you're right.
Jaguars, you're retired from the intelligence service.
Live in the country with a farm on a farmhouse.
Yes, yes, yes.
And you've got your Jaguar just for going around town and drinking a gin and tonic or something.
Sounds right to me.
Would you be able to go back to the previous picture, Stelios?
Because I want to point out something about this design.
It looks like in a video game when the textures haven't quite loaded in, like the car doesn't look finished.
There's not enough detail on it.
It looks weird.
I don't understand how they named the design Type 00.
They're going off of World War II Japanese machine gun naming conventions, are they?
Yeah, I'm sure about all five people.
The advert was so bad.
The advert was also kind of resembled like a kind of 90s advert.
It almost resembled like, you know, those old, what's the tire company?
Velvet Underground Design00:05:51
Is it good?
I'm trying to remember.
Remember the ones with like Velvet Underground?
You're too young, but they had these adverts.
I know the Velvet Underground, yeah.
Yeah, they had them.
They put them in like a tire advert back in the day.
It was that kind of.
It was like, oh, it's cool.
It was like a 90s idea of what was edgy and cool with extra woke.
So, Nick, look at what happened.
In late 2024, Jaguar was selling about 950 cars a month in Europe.
They get an Indian CEO, and a few months later, that number went down to 50, which was a 97.5 drop.
And what did the CEO do?
He got another job.
He did it, woke.
Just look at this.
You're imagining someone, you know, an old spy retiring with his retiree package from MI5 or something, going to the Coswells or to Lake District or something.
And here you have these people who are like just like Gary Oldman followers from the fifth element.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
It's retired, but pronounced slightly differently.
They explicitly basically said we need to change and rejuvenate and get a new.
They basically say we hate our existing customer.
We need to try and get a new customer.
But it didn't work.
They just alienated their old one and didn't gain a new one.
Right.
So I'm not as hostile to this because it's about lesbians.
Lesbians in medieval Italy.
You're like, hear me out.
Hear me out.
It's 1348.
Ex-Voto.
The quest begins.
The vow has been made.
Meet Bianca.
Swords emoji.
Look at this.
Well, this is yet to come out, is it?
Yeah.
That's not fair.
The world is not fair.
Oh, my noble knight Eric.
Would thou aid this fair damsel to rise?
That bowl cut is criminal.
Yeah.
It's like Gareth from the office.
And they're trying to say, hear us out.
This year's best medieval game might be an all-action lesbian night love story.
And they're talking about Jean Darc or something that, you know, there have been women, but they say we do need a lesbian night game.
You see, this could be done successfully, but it would have to be made by men.
If it's got female influence on it, men aren't going to go for it.
That's why we prefer to sidestep all the culture war drama.
Right, you missed us with that sentence.
This isn't going to be this.
In a world where some games feel desperate to ponder to the loudest audience, it's refreshing to see a game execute its own visions as it desires.
It will inevitably get hard criticisms of DI Wokery.
But the fact is, a lesbian knight is way more niche than a classic romantic knight who saves a damsel.
Not all ideas are good ideas.
You know, the positive about this.
It's the only reason we're all here and that you guys have a job is because, although you're part-time, it's because of this.
Because this radicalized Carl into doing all of this.
Yeah.
You radicalized the game.
I saw a great tweet the other day.
It's like, Carl just wanted to play games.
Nick just wanted to do comedy, but no, they couldn't leave us alone.
They couldn't leave us alone.
Well, I wanted to be an academic.
He wanted to be an academic, yeah.
He wanted to Euromax.
Yeah, of course.
Now he's in Switzerland.
The Knight Scissors or something.
I don't know how they'll call it.
Horizon Hunters Gathering.
Not a single traditional straight young man at sight.
You know Horizon's Gathering?
No.
Oh, so is this a spin-off of the Horizon series, which has that, which previously had a young, slim, red-headed woman fighting machines in a post-apocalypse?
What happened now?
She watched the whale and she found her role model.
Yeah, well, she's fighting the machines by becoming impossible to, you know, be destroyed by accumulating mass.
It's like Job of the Hut in female form and with pink hair.
But also, I mean, the first thing that comes to mind when I see this character is an agility.
But here she is particularly agile.
So, I mean, I'll give her credit for that.
We've already got Kung Fu Panda.
We don't need this.
This is pointless.
Also, it looks ridiculous.
Just those body proportions.
Does she have like a fake leg as well or something?
I don't know.
She's probably disabled in some way.
Right.
So are the people that wrote it.
You know another game now?
And I'll speed up a bit.
You know this game, Relooted?
Oh, was it something that was cancelled?
No.
No.
It wasn't.
New Leader Game sees Africans fantasize about taking back looted treasures.
Yes, that's right.
Look at this here.
Let me tell you how well it did.
This is from an article from the BBC three days ago, published.
Imagine it is 2019 and the Transatlantic Returns Treaty is falling apart.
2099.
It's in the future.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
2099.
Falling apart as Western museums find ways to rig ladder of promises to return stolen African treasures.
Fed up with the trickery, artifacts expect.
Professor Grace decides to take matters into her own hands.
And the South African knows the perfect people to help her grandchildren, Nomalian Trevor and her former student, Etienne.
Right.
So it's basically a game about black people stealing artifacts.
Right, so, yeah.
Pretty realism.
And here it was announced.
An African futurist heist game where you can reclaim real African looted artifacts from Western museum.
Steam charts relooted launched today, February 10, three days ago.
Samson here is very brutal.
African Futurist Heist00:05:42
I'll give him a like here.
And he also showed me this.
Three days ago, the all-time peak players was 57.
That is just an abject failure.
24-hour peak, 41-player.
Players right now playing 18.
I could probably make a game.
It would be terrible because I don't know how to do it.
And post it on Twitter to just whoever sees it and it would get a higher play count than that.
That's just the makers of the game playing it right now, 18 blokes.
All of their relatives.
Non-binary lesbians.
Right, and I want to end with a white pill.
So, you know, we're going to talk about Euromaxing.
We have talked about Mads Michelson.
He did a movie.
He started in a movie called The Promised Land, which I've watched it.
I really like it.
We are going to talk about it.
And someone asked him and the producer what, you know, it was entirely Nordic.
Let's watch this chaddish video.
This is a cast and a Danish production, which is entirely Nordic.
Therefore has some lack of diversity, you would say.
There's also new rules are implied.
sorry but from the get-go there is some okay well first of all the film takes place in Denmark in the 1750s I remember that clip.
Yeah, I mean, I have to say that I want to defend the movie.
It's a very good movie.
And I think that now that Hollywood is completely destroying itself with all the woke thing, people are a bit more partial or a bit more open to watching movies from other, let's say, productions.
Great.
Don't put off watching foreign language films because you don't like reading subtitles.
You people sicken me.
Don't watch dubs.
Watch it in the original with subtitles.
It's very immersive.
You will enjoy it.
There's lots of good Japanese, South Korean, continental European films that you might not speak the language, but are actually very good.
I used to watch loads of subtitle films.
Then you get too old, you're just like, can't bother anymore.
But you just watch reality TV.
I hope.
No, I'm joking.
But you know how the actor just mad there was just like, I'm not having this.
All actors secretly hate woke, nearly all of them.
Like a therapist told me this.
He's like, I get loads of actors in here.
They all hate this woke stuff, but they can't say it.
And I've known some facts.
I've even been out with an actor.
They hate it, but they can't admit it because I'll get no work.
But it's not as if some probably actually drink the Kool-Aid.
Loads of them just hate it and just can't say it.
Yeah, so the movie is an epic historical drama.
It's about Denmark in 1755.
And what happens is we have a sort of retired military man, a captain, who tries to cultivate land in Jutland.
He tries to plant potatoes.
Right.
So this is a movie that shows lots of themes there.
It shows how, for instance, he was loyal to the king.
And the king was an absolutist on paper, but in practice, he had to rely on the bureaucrats from the rising centralized modern state, but also from aristocrats.
And he is very much forming a rivalry with a degenerate nobleman who thinks his land is all there.
Imagine watching this movie and just thinking that it's about diversity or something.
It's just not.
This is just stupid.
Also, when it comes to entitlement, the things that people steal from stores, someone has to produce them.
So this is a movie about someone who tried to produce things.
It's about wealth creation and initiative against all odds.
It's not about DI.
It's not about representation of this or that group.
Also, interesting, there is a gypsy in that movie, this character here, and she's a good character.
So there is some, you could say, diversity or something, but for some reason.
And also, it's well written.
It doesn't feel like it's there for its own sake.
And in fact, it's an important plot point.
And at no point did I think, oh, they're just inserting this for woke reasons.
So it's tiresome.
And I want to end with Schrodinger's meme yesterday.
This is after destroying woke reporters complaining about 18th century Denmark's lack of diversity, which is this is the meme by mads that people using.
But it's simultaneously reality and a meme.
So this is a good thing.
So I think this is important.
People are fed up with it.
It's not again an issue of people being different.
We're all different.
It's an issue of the forced nature of it.
Just stop it.
It's just ridiculous.
It's fake.
Just say no.
Yeah.
That's a random name.
Says, can you believe that female Klingons have a higher murder rate than human males?
Did you know that 109 planets have kicked out all Vulcans for no reason at all?
I know what that's a reference to.
Akrule says, were there any polyamorous Nazi refugees in the Man in the High Castle?
I don't know.
To be fair, wasn't there a game?
I can't remember which one it was, either Battlefield or Call of Duty.
They're basically interchangeable in my mind, where they had black Nazis, which I thought was funny.
Elephants and Ethnicity00:16:01
It told the future.
It told us of ye's coming.
You know, from the Grindhouse project, it's with the fake trailers.
They did SS women of the S.
No, Werewolf Women of the SS.
They have to turn this into a movie.
They turned Machetti and also another one, but they have to make Werewolf Women of the SS a movie.
Right.
And it says that's a random name.
I wonder if the lesbian game will feature a quick time event where the protagonist has to beat the daylights out of her girlfriend.
Nothing less will be accepted.
You naughty, naughty man.
Well, I've already...
I'm going to have two mice, but thank you.
One's enough.
One and done.
That's what I say.
I'm going to be talking to you today about when the elephants began to hate.
And that is the revelation that even elephants notice patterns.
Even elephants remember who wrongs them.
And even elephants.
oh what's going on what happened what's happening I've shifted too far right, apparently, according to Samson.
The police have come in, and now I'm going to have to do my segment intro all over again.
I'm going to have to change it just for the sake of variety.
The next time we'll be better.
I hope so.
So, did you know that elephants are racist?
It is true.
I'm going to prove it with science.
And yes, what we're going to be looking at is elephants' ability to recognize human differences, differences between ethnicities.
And elephants treat different ethnicities differently, which by definition is racism.
So it's an interesting point that even non-human animals, presumably, you know, animals are absolved of the sin of conscious bigotry in the absence of consciousness.
There will be people saying elephants are conscious, but no consciousness is the domain of mankind.
Thank you very much.
Don't contradict me.
You know, there's a scale, but you can't say they're truly conscious in the same way that a human being is, but they're closer than most animals.
And what I want to draw your attention to is this 2021 study, which is titled Coexistence and Culture: Understanding Human Diversity and Tolerance in Human-Elephant Interactions.
And if I scroll down here.
It's also a new video game.
Sorry, go on.
We find a marked difference between communities with ethnicity being a better predictor of tolerance than the more tangible socio-economic or geographic variables such as income, education, landholding, or cropping patterns.
So you have to go to the world of elephant science to find people admitting that actually ethnicity is one of the most important factors predicting human behaviour, which I find interesting.
And allow me to introduce two different ethnic groups here.
You might even recognise one of them.
Either of you know who they are?
I mean, no.
Not individually, but what people do is the only one I know, so I wasn't being cruel there.
It's the one that most people know.
So this is the Maasai.
Remember what they look like, because elephants do.
They were good on that Paul Simon album as well.
Good reference.
And here is another group, which is the Kamba.
And as you can see, they look slightly differently.
They dress slightly differently.
They live in different areas.
But both of them encounter elephants.
And let's go to how the elephants actually look at these two groups.
So they were studying these two groups, and I'll try and get it in the right place.
So it says, we show that elephants distinguish at least two Kenyan ethnic groups and can identify them by olfactory, meaning smell, and colour cues independently.
So yes, they can smell the difference, which makes you wonder about the poor Indian elephant.
It's almost like an advert.
Tesco, smell the difference.
Taste the difference.
In the Ambuseli ecosystem in Kenya, young Maasai men demonstrate virility by spearing elephants, but Kanber agriculturists pose a little threat.
Elephants showed greater fear when they detected the scent of garments previously worn by Maasai than by Kanber men.
And they reacted aggressively to the colour associated with the Maasai.
Elephants are therefore able to classify members of a single species into subgroups that pose different degrees of danger.
So elephants are actually more intelligent than the average left-winger because elephants can recognize ethnic differences and treat them accordingly based on how they're treated themselves.
You know, elephants abide by the golden rule.
Apparently leftists don't.
It just goes to show that people are ignoring something that's so base in our biology, so fundamental that it's present in non-human animals, even elephants who, you know, we're not that related to as a species.
They're able to do this.
They're smart cookies, aren't they?
They can paint.
Who doesn't like elephants?
There's something about them, isn't there, that man has a link to them.
And think about Lord of the Rings, how much wonder there is about the elephant.
There is something about them.
They are ultra-intelligent.
And this sort of all suggests they're more intelligent than we even think.
They have a good memory.
That's the sort of phrase, isn't it?
That's like the memory of an elephant.
But it turns out it's actually literally true as well, which I know you've got later in this.
Yeah, well, it's even to the degree that young elephants will inherit the prejudices of their parents.
They must communicate which ethnic groups.
Yeah.
Which ethnic groups are dangerous.
And funnily enough, actually, there was an experiment done.
This is a complete tangent, but I want to talk about it.
So too bad.
Where Corvids, like crows, were being scared by scientists because that's what scientists do.
We're weird.
And they were deliberately going out of their way to scare these crows.
And then the same researcher went back, maybe, I think it was 25 years later, but a long time later, to the point where the crows would definitely be past their lifespan.
And even the offspring of those crows were able to recognize the researcher that tormented them as opposed to others and reacted accordingly.
So they must have communicated, listen, this guy is a right nuisance.
And, you know, make sure to mob him and annoy him.
Whereas other people they might be favourable towards.
Incredible.
So just saying, people claim to be unable to do these things or pretend that they don't do it when in fact it's so integral to life on earth that most species can't help but do it.
And then there was an additional study that compounds on this.
Elephants can determine ethnicity, gender and age from acoustic cues in human voice.
And this is very interesting.
And I'm going to read from the actual research paper itself.
So I'm not going to skip through it because it's quite long.
It says, recognizing predators and judging the level of threat that they pose is a crucial skill for many wild animals and human beings.
Human predators present a particularly interesting challenge as different groups of humans can represent dramatically different levels of danger to animals living around them.
It's annoying, really, that scientific research has to get to the realm of, yeah, we're studying elephants and how they notice who's more violent.
You know, elephants would point out 1352 statistics.
Yeah.
You know, they're not going to be afraid to point out who's overrepresented.
And it says, we use playback of human voice stimuli to show that elephants can make subtle distinctions between language and voice characteristics to correctly identify the most threatening individuals on the basis of their ethnicity, gender, and age.
So basically elephants are a woke's worst nightmare because they're age is sexist and racist.
I'm worried they're going to get cancelled.
Elephants must be cancelled.
All of these environmentalists who are like, oh, we've got to protect the elephants.
As soon as they find this out, they're going to be out there shooting them.
Yeah, there'll be elephant, like a movie about elephants, but I'll have to cast giraffes or something.
It's a woke casting.
You're going to force them to watch adolescents.
Elephants were less likely to flee from the voices of Maasai women and boys than they were from Maasai men.
And they bunched together less closely because they bunch together as a defensive thing when they feel threatened.
Elephant families led by matriarchs more than 42 years old never retreated when they heard the voices of boys, but those led by younger matriarchs retreated roughly 40% of the time.
So this is important because it shows that it's a learnt behaviour and that they're learning who they should be afraid of, which ethnicities, which groups of people are the most danger to them.
And, you know, women and boys, not so scary, whereas adult men...
Isn't that more likely to be because they're hunters?
Well, yeah, of course.
I'm trying to understand the as we addressed before, the Maasai men just go out and spear elephants to prove their worth.
Okay.
As they do with lions and the like.
And so that's why they're scared of them.
I'm saying they can learn what's dangerous.
That's all you're saying in that statement.
Yeah, they can recognize based on empirical evidence who is the biggest threat to them.
Then the elephant has had enough.
We'll be getting to that.
Also tiresome.
It's also true of Asian elephants as well as African ones, which we've only been talking about so far.
They are different.
And prolonged proximity to humans ensures better performance of semi-captive Asian elephants at discriminating between human individuals by voice.
There's another vocal study here, much the same as before, that they can tell people apart by their voice.
And so they can notice differences.
And so let's go to elephant perception, shall we?
Here we are.
This is an article.
And it says, when it comes to people, elephants can be very discriminating, very based, especially those under human care in Southeast Asia.
There is a story of an orphaned elephant who, at the age of 10, pulled her drowning mahoot out of a lake.
I presume that's someone who looks after the elephants.
Yeah, it's someone who tends to elephants.
Okay.
Because I checked it.
Oh, really?
Yeah, because I didn't know either.
Out of a lake after hearing his cries for help a kilometre away, or the dangerous three-metre-tall bull who would charge anyone who approached except the 160-centimetre wife of the village elder, who he would caress with his trunk as she fed him.
The behavioural connection between elephants and ourselves is not the product of domestication in the sense of artificial genetic selection, but born from the individual life histories involving near constant human contact.
So they're basically saying that the elephants learn based on their experiences who to be hostile and who to be friendly towards.
And it's even to the point where Asian elephants can recognize where humans are putting their attention based on our body language and facial orientation.
So if we moved our body, say Stelios was an elephant, I moved my body towards him but didn't look at him with my face, they would still be able to recognize that I wasn't paying him attention.
Whereas if I turn my head, Stelios the elephant will be able to recognise that I'm paying him attention and act accordingly.
So they can address the elephant in the room.
Nice.
Oh.
Yes, they can, yes.
But the point being here that they can even read body language and understand human behavior, and therefore the elephants' empirical judgments about ethnic differences and how to treat them can be taken as a little bit more sophisticated than your average animal.
And they can even hold grudges.
And I think that Nick alluded to this before we went on air about how an elephant killed the woman and then returned to a funeral to attack her corpse.
Wild.
Which, yeah, elephants never forget, apparently.
One has to wonder what she did.
The article doesn't say, but she must have wronged the elephants.
And they attacked her house as well, I think.
That's right, yeah.
So Maya Miramu, that's her name, was collecting water in Rapi Village.
That's what it's actually called.
Very doubtful, that's the pronunciation.
Located in somewhere I'm not even going to try and pronounce, India, where a herd of elephants came her way.
That's when she tried to flee, but one of the elephants rushed towards her and trampled her, the Times of India reported.
She's rushed to hospital but died from her injuries.
As the funeral ceremony was taking place, the Times of India reported that a herd of elephants appeared from the forest, sending villagers running.
And obviously they left her body behind.
And so one of the elephants then reportedly attacked the woman's corpse by picking up the body and throwing it in the air.
The herd then destroyed her home as well as three other houses being damaged but not destroyed and no one else in the village was reported to be harmed.
So that was a targeted attack and nothing else.
What the heck did she do?
Did she make them watch the new Star Trek or something?
And then even the mafia give it a break at funerals.
I know elephants like, no, she was bad.
No mercy.
And they're going to burn down your entire house as well.
Yeah, that's incredible.
And so what one can presume is when one hears of elephant attacks, perhaps, you know, sometimes they're unprovoked, but sometimes they could be in response to some sort of injustice.
And one has to wonder if elephants then develop a hostile attitude to people around them and they charge down any human, how have they been treated by those people?
And the fact that they can save a guy a kilometre away who's drowning just shows the range, yeah, the incredible range.
You know, to go from that to stampeding someone at a funeral, the range of behavior is incredible based on, as you say, how they've been treated.
But it's an important lesson for human beings, I think, one that we're forgetting is that we have this ability as well.
And if it's present in elephants, it must be very much a deep and biological thing by merit of us being a very different organism.
Like you're tricking me into agreeing with something right-wing there.
I just want to say I'm just here for the elephants.
To me, it's purely a question of wildlife studies or whatever it's called.
That's what this is all about, definitely.
Definitely no other agenda here.
But, you know, you can contextualize this in this case.
This was in January.
There was a killer elephant who is at large, if you pardon the pun, left a total of 22 people dead over a 10-day period in India.
So I wonder what it is about India and the Indian people that has got this elephant so angry that it's gone on a 10-day rampage of just squashing Indian people.
Apparently it was the H-1B visas.
It's a big Trump supporter, apparently.
They were taking elephant jobs, undercutting them.
True crime documentary, killer elephant tapes.
It was the importation of African elephants taking Indian elephants' jobs.
That's what it was.
Killer Elephant Rampage00:06:23
And then it's worth pointing out why they actually hate these people.
And there's a very good explanation here that I was able to find online.
He's talking about you see elephants have ancient corridors in Southeast Asia that they've used for thousands of years for migration and general travel.
These conflicts arise when Indians decide it's a good idea to plant a field in their way.
The issues arise when Indians seek out retribution for crop losses and damage.
In this case, a bull elephant was killed with a poisonous jackfruit.
The elephants understood what happened.
And so they all came back.
And the revenge campaign on Indian villages are extremely common.
And so we see the example here of the elephant that was poisoned and they got revenge.
Wild elephants kill five, destroy 50 homes in India.
I understand the elephant saying, resenting that their corridor has been taken by the field, but who are the Indians getting retribution on with the poison jackfruit?
The elephants.
The elephants, yeah.
Like the elephants, you know, go into their fields and cause problems.
And so the Indians go and try and get retribution on them.
And so the elephants then get revenge on them in a sort of blood feud, really.
I mean, that's insane.
But unless we're saying that elephants are so intelligent that actually it is reasonable to get revenge on them.
I mean, that's obviously what these Indians have decided.
Because ostensibly, that's an insane thing to do.
You know, it's like deer wander into the garden or whatever in England and they eat your flowers.
My mum's always complaining about it.
But you don't then say, right, I'm going to kill every one of this deer and its whole family.
You think, oh, that's annoying.
That's what they're programmed to do.
So an elephant wandering in to get revenge on it.
Is that not insane?
It is insane, yeah.
Like, it wouldn't even occur to me to do that.
And also, surely India must know by now that if you attack an elephant, it will remember and it will find you and it will trample you.
It's like elephants, Liam Neeson.
Involving trampling mainly.
I can't remember whether there was another part here.
Oh, yeah.
In this case, 44 elephants found the man responsible for killing their calf and murdered the man.
And there are videos of these things happening.
I'm not going to show them because they are horrible.
I've seen videos of an abusive zookeeper, and the elephant just sort of has enough and just starts torturing him by using its foot to apply pressure to crush his body, but then relents and then does it again.
Wow.
Did he want it to be slow?
Elephants can torture.
Did he want it also to look like an accident or not?
Well, if you see a squashed man next to an elephant, I don't think it takes a genius to figure out what happened.
Even an elephant would know that.
So, yes, my point is this: that if elephants can recognize different ethnicities, recognize their own unique behavior, and adjust their behavior accordingly, why can't you?
Have you ever ridden an elephant?
I haven't.
I've actually never been outside of Europe or North America because I only like to go to civilized countries.
No, I read Australia.
I wrote an elephant in a civilized country.
I think it was in America.
They're quite bristly.
They're like a sort of toothbrush or something, more bristly than you think.
But now, I don't think I would ride one now, knowing all that.
I was a child at the time.
Well, you've just got to be nice to it.
Yes, but I'm not sure they should.
I think they're now too intelligent even for you to ride them, having watched all that.
Well, they're basically people.
They're more sophisticated than some people, I know.
Certainly leftists, yeah.
But I imagine an elephant's association with the white man is they give us food and don't kill us.
Who's worth more, an elephant or Matthew Stadland?
You know, it's clear-cut.
Or any other example you want to use.
Well, even if you're going by sheer numbers, there are fewer elephants than people like him.
So you want to read the comments?
Before you read them out loud, read it.
Okay, that's Random Names Fed posting again.
You're going to get me in trouble.
I'm still going to read it, but I'm not going to read it aloud.
None of these are readable.
They were all written by elephants.
Ochido says the woman threw rocks to distract the elephants from the young the poachers were going after.
Oh, okay.
Thank you for the background there.
Okay, let's go to the video comments, I suppose.
And now here she is again.
And Sakura just wants to say how happy she is to see that the Iron Lady of Japan has done what she did in the last election.
She is so glad to see that her homeland is going in the right direction.
That is, the direction away from mass migration and cultural destruction.
Have a nice day.
Takeichi, or whatever she says.
Hi, Michael.
Nice dog.
Base Iron Lady of Japan.
Also, I'm glad to hear your dog has the correct political opinions.
Like an elephant.
Base dog.
Like an elephant.
Yeah.
Base dogs, base elephants.
And now another cute dog video.
Yes.
There she is, Sakura.
And she is here to remind you that there are four types of communists.
One, the ones that think they'll be in charge of something.
Two, the ones that actually support a workers' revolution.
Three, the idiots.
And four, the ones who will kill the first two and rule over the third.
Have a nice day.
I love how in all of your video comments, your dog is just lying there peacefully, whereas every dog I've ever owned will sit still for about five seconds.
That dog is aura farming.
Looked like it was gestamaxing to me.
And let him get another rent boy trying to kill Kier Starmer.
I feel like there might be something to, you know, the movie Zoolander saying that, you know, male modeling is just a front for assassination networks.
What with the whole idea is like, think about it.
Like a lot of the people that have done recent assassinations, like Luigi Magioni and other such people, all were kind of modelling adjacent, often on like Instagram, but still kind of modelling, right?
Well.
Work-From-Home Realities00:02:29
So to get the perception of being dangerous, now you have to be a male model.
This is a real disaster for masculinity here.
It's me.
The rise of work-from-home jobs is a COVID thing, but it's one of the few good things that's come out of it, really.
But also, the tech just enables it.
In truth, the only people who work more effectively from home are either hyper-supervised and cannot be inventive, or the self-employed.
Everyone else amounts to a parasite replaceable by AI.
Rex Malek dealt with the prospect of working from home in the 1982 BBC computer literacy project.
Not that, I think that's an illusion.
The truth is that we need the office or something similar.
We need somewhere to fight, to argue, to discuss, to compete.
Yeah, but we also need somewhere to work.
And if people fight and constantly discuss things, sometimes we don't get the concentration that war requires.
I have no idea what you're on about, Stelios.
You absolutely have an idea what I'm on about.
I'm being sarcastic.
It's true about the self-employed, though.
Most of my energy comes from my substat subscribers.
And so, yeah, you're forced, you're at home going, I don't want to do anything, but you're forced to because you're self-employed or quasi-self-employed because I come here as well.
But yeah, if I wasn't, you just have done a work-from-home job once when I wasn't self-employed.
Of course, you're gaming the system and doing it as quickly as possible and pretending you're working long and all that kind of thing.
It's actually a depressing feeling, though.
You don't actually enjoy it.
You enjoy like a week and then you realize this is kind of a weird prison.
I'm in my own house.
It's like being on probation with an ankle tag, which I know has happened to you.
And never committed or never been caught committing any crimes.
Caught, yeah.
Anyway, sorry for that rant, but yeah, generally, I think what Farage said was wrong because it's like, why he didn't give anyone incentives to work and you just basically shouted and the trains don't work and what have Zoom has got to work for?
But work from home, yeah, only works a very insightful point if you're self-employed.
I find that also you've got to habituate it.
Like I spent four years at university, you know, doing a master screen.
If I didn't work from home regularly and habituate myself into that, I wouldn't have been able to do it.
And so you carry those skills forward.
And I find that I work much longer hours working from home.
Like I'll be forcing myself to do something that I would really not want to do.
But I get it out of the way because I'm holding myself accountable.
Yeah.
And you only feel good after you do it.
You feel you sort of hate yourself if you're procrastinating.
Anyway, sorry to.
Next one.
I understand we're discussing a civil war.
Why They Left?00:02:00
No, you stupid bitch!
We tried that already!
Yeah!
Kaiser, do you mean Caesar?
No, you stupid bitch!
Also, the Mask of Mars was forged specifically for Leggate Linnaeus, not for the legates in general.
This is the same treatment they gave to the source material of Watchmen, but it's okay because your retarded fans will still defend you in the comments.
You stupid bitch!
Yeah, the Fallout series is one of those things that I wish it didn't exist.
The first season was okay, but you could tell that they had contempt for the source material, which is enough to dismiss it out of hand.
32nd history.
So the Egyptians arrived in England in the 16th, 17th centuries.
They dispersed themselves through most parts of the kingdom, and they weren't very well liked because they were cousining or scamming the people, particularly poor country girls.
Thing is, though, they weren't actually Egyptians.
We would call them gypsies, and they originated in the northwest of India along the Pakistani border and eventually made their way up into England.
So what did the government do?
Well, King Henry VIII gave them 16 days to leave the country.
Bloody Mary then had to tell them to integrate, leave, or be executed.
We were looking at it yesterday.
The policy was revoked in 1856.
Do you know that there was also under a queen?
I think it was Queen Elizabeth I, there was an order to capture all of the rogue freed African slaves and to get rid of them from the country because they were being released by pirates in London and just spreading out into the country and forming bandit groups.
And so they called them dark moors, I think, originally.
Even though they weren't Moors.
I wonder why they exiled them from India.
Or did they leave out of their own volition?
They were fastidious and tidy, I'm sure.
That was the reason.
Drive Jags: Old Men and Radicals00:02:59
Okay, let's go to the comments.
Do you want to read yours?
Yeah, yeah, I'll read them.
I don't have many, which is how you can tell my segments sucked.
But Henry says, an awful lot is being done now to block changes to the system behind the scenes or openly in a way normies won't understand.
Labour exploring setting up development organized corporations would act as a supreme planning authority in Cambridgeshire, which would have that authority for 25 years.
It's going to be yet another Quango that will be completely unaccountable to the public in any way.
The government seem obsessed with the Oxford-Cambridge corridor of the UK as something that will drive growth.
So naturally, they want to grab power and hold on to it wherever they can.
Interesting.
It's the corridors, like we talked about with the elephants.
Yeah, Quango.
Last thing we need is more Quangos.
Sorry, I didn't read it while my screen is blurred.
So, Lord Hector X says the left can only contain things for so long to the point where reality conquers their messaging.
The normie containment breaks.
True.
Jeff Kin says the team should look at the Conservative victory in Costa Rica's recent election, decisive.
Hmm.
Has anyone followed that one?
I hadn't even heard of it.
Right.
Lord Inquisitor Hector Rex, you know what they haven't destroyed?
Islander 5, the best islander today.
Yeah, they haven't destroyed that.
Is that still on sale?
Is that off sale?
No.
It's off sale.
Clearly off sale.
Don't talk about it.
Lord, again, Lord Inquisitor Hector X. Don't forget the marketing guy for Jaguar was called Rodon Glover.
Or Marawad.
I think, on top of the diversity representation, skewing people's perception of demographics, people have a strong psychological resistance to considering themselves a minority in their own country.
That's very true.
Zesta King, returning next week.
I have a friend who works for Jaguar, and according to him, Jaguar intentionally hired a woe guy for their advertising, knowing he would tank the brand so they could blame their already dropping sales on him rather than other factors like a reduction in the number of cars they produced.
Well, I don't know.
I mean, I mean, there's all sorts of corporate chicanery that goes on, to be honest.
Like, if you get burnt by an advertising guy, it's like, well, I didn't know.
I'm not an advertising specialist.
I didn't know it wouldn't work.
You got plausible deniability.
Whereas if you've just failed, you know, by your own merits.
But then, you know, what Jaguar should be doing is producing cars that look like the classic Jaguars that were very sought after and make me want to buy one.
Again, Zesta King, a lesbian knight.
Who is she fighting?
Her girlfriend?
No, I think she's protecting her girlfriend's honor.
The patriarchy.
Jimbo G. Jimbo G, guys, it's time for me to come clean.
It's me, Mads Mickelson.
I watch the podcast every day, which is why I'm Uber-based.
Makes sense.
Michael Brooks, we all drive jags around here.
Goat Simulator Racial Slurs00:02:27
I have one.
Basically, it's like driving a fast sofa.
There are two types of people that drive jags, old men who waft and men that want to fly, literally, under the radar.
Gangsters and politicians, or maybe they're no difference.
Henry Ashman says, it's getting to the point in media where the most subversive thing to do is make a faithful adaptation of something.
Absolutely.
Arizona Desert Rat.
So basically, it's a show about high school students at a private school space school.
Sounds fun.
Yeah, Arizona Desert Rat.
Disney needs to get off the nostalgia train.
So on the elephants, M.R. Wad says, leftists are all being gay is natural because animals do it.
But as soon as I start talking about elephants, they don't want to hear it.
Typical.
Paul Neubauer says, a new game with you as an elephant.
Your goal is to secure food and beer.
Elephants love it.
And kill as many villagers as possible.
I mean, they made Goat Simulator, didn't they?
That was quite good.
They made free games out of it.
So make elephant simulators.
That's a goat simulator.
Well, you play as a goat.
It's a tool of integration.
All I'm saying.
Yeah.
Future wife to someone, I'm sure.
Derek Power, Master of Chippies, says, I think I'll name my new pet elephant Stampy.
AZ Desert Rat says, elephants have metacognition at understand obey permanence.
I'm not surprised they notice and understand patterns.
Yes.
And again, they say if an elephant makes the wrong decision when analysing a threat, their life gets cancelled.
Of course, they're going to be highly prejudiced.
That's true.
Baron von Warhawk, the elephant began pumping gas into his car at Family Express when smoking a cigarette.
Teens could be here, he thought.
I hate teens.
Animal Immi says, they're working on translating animal sounds.
How much do you want to bet that the project will be cancelled when it's proven animals are racist?
Yeah, I want to hear elephant racial slurs.
I want to know how to say them.
I want to be able to, you know, shoot the shit with some elephants and, you know, talk about stereotypes.
Henry Ashman, now I'm wondering if the Ukrainian rent boys attack you.
Oh, that's are secretly elephants now.
I don't know.
I'm sure Stahmer was doing something with their trunks.
Right, we still have two minutes to go, which is what I want to talk about what Nick said before.
Millennials Maxing Lingo00:03:08
The Zoomer match, the looks maxing lingo, the slogans, the jargon.
Have you understood them?
Oh, yeah.
Unfortunately, I've understood all of it, which is kind of worrying because I had this moment of clarity where I was just like, I've spent so much time on the internet that this is gibberish to 90% of people who are on the internet, and I understand it.
99?
Yeah.
You think that many?
Yeah, I think that it's not many people, which makes me very happy that I'm one of the 1% that understands it.
Did you see my tweet about it?
So Simon Jordan was dealing with that woman who, the ultra-entitled black woman who thinks she should be given everything in sports punditry.
And she was moaning to him and he just completely shut her down.
I said, Jordan absolutely frame Mogsis Foyd, who was DEI gooning and overestimating her MV until she got her cortisol brutally spiked by Jordan.
So yeah, she was overestimating her market value.
I took off the S from sexual market value and just made it MV.
I've invented that myself.
But yeah, I got most of it.
I know most of the language, but even I struggled with that initial sentence because I knew Jessica maxing, I knew SMV, I knew mogging, and I could work out Moid, but I and I could work out Jessica Gunu.
But even in that, there were some things.
I wasn't that familiar with Chad fishing.
There's a couple of things.
Is that where in dating apps they put a more chaddish?
I'm actually fine with it.
I just didn't piece it all.
Basically, I knew most of the words.
It's like learning a foreign language.
I knew most of the words.
I couldn't piece absolutely all of it together.
It's like me speaking French.
Like, I know a decent portion of it, but I can't be fluent in it.
I actually like it.
I find it hilarious.
It's innocuous.
I don't get the people who started trashing me and following me saying, why are you doing this?
You're giving it oxygen.
Come on.
It's silly.
It's fun, is why.
And I think that it's funny as well to see the people who take it really seriously, just like, oh, you know, the Zoom has created something and the millennials are ruining it.
Oh, yeah.
I've seen Fuentes saying that he's mad that millennials are ruining it.
It's funny.
We're mocking it.
By the way, you remember last weekend we did the segment where he said that he's planning to sabotage MAGA and now he goes out and says his goal was all along to sabotage MAGA.
I know you're taking it as a victory, but I thought that he already always said that.
Ah, now I don't get the credit.
He set you up though, didn't he?
Okay.
I'm really looking forward to not talking about that ever again.
Bye.
It's just I'm bored of the talk.
All elephant segments.
I just want aura maxing and elephant segments and Euromaxing and just fun stuff.
Right.
Okay.
So three o'clock Lad's Hour.
Martian Constitution.
Yeah, that's it.
Bye.
Goodbye.
See you.
Also, for the next podcast, going to be Monday at 1 p.m., isn't it?
Usually.
5 p.m.
No, no.
1 p.m. Josh is trying to confuse you.
So see you on the Martian Constitution discussion in Lad's Hour in 29 minutes.