The Lotus Eaters #1351 dissects the British government’s collapse under Keir Starmer, whose leadership teeters after backbenchers like Wes Streeting and Yvette Cooper demand his resignation amid unpopularity, with a potential no-confidence vote tied to May’s local elections. Meanwhile, skepticism swirls around Jeffrey Epstein’s 2019 death—an active gaming account in February 2026, a $12M estate transfer, and a prison guard’s dubious claims—challenging official narratives in an era where transparency and truth are increasingly questioned. Farage’s misplaced office-work crusade, backed by property billionaires, distracts from deeper issues like remigration and economic reform, risking alienation of younger voters who resent systemic failures. [Automatically generated summary]
Hello and welcome to podcast of the Lotus Eaters Edition 1351.
It's a special one tomorrow, isn't it?
1352.
That's a special number.
Is it?
Is it?
Yeah, it's...
You're the historian, Beau, explain it.
It is.
It's not a date.
It's a crime statistic.
13% of the population for 52% of the murders.
Was it 52% now?
Well, that's what it used to be.
It's gone up.
They've up their game.
Right.
I think it's 56 now.
Well, good to see somebody's working hard, given the inefficiencies in the state that I'll be talking about in my zone.
Yes, on the 10th of February, Year of Our Lord 2026, I'm joined, as you know, by Bo and Josh.
Now, today, we are going to be talking about how the shuffling corpse of Starmer's career just won't die.
Apparently, you need a headshot to put these things down.
It's in his death throws, the death rattles, isn't it?
Yes.
Paps, perhaps.
And how he's still animated, we don't really know.
We're going to be talking about how Fraj will talk about literally anything, including taking away your work-life balance instead of remigration.
And you've uncovered hard evidence that Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself, and nor did anybody else.
Not quite hard evidence, but I'll be talking about it in a fair and even-handed way.
Although, personally, you know, I don't think there's a smoking gun there.
Although I see why people believe it, and I'm going to be presenting.
I choose to believe it.
Well, I'll see you evidence and then I'll choose to believe it.
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So on the podcast of the Lotus Eaters, we haven't done a segment just updating everyone on everything that's happening with the collapse of the British government.
British Government Crisis Update00:08:10
We didn't do it yesterday.
And so basically it needs an update for everything that's happened over the weekend and the last couple of days and even Friday and stuff.
So there's a fair few if you've been living under a rock.
We'll just catch you up with everything.
I assume that yesterday they kind of hoped that he might resign by like 12 or something.
Well.
So they wanted to hold on.
It was really hanging by a thread.
Yes.
Yesterday.
He came very, very close within a whisker of the British government collapsing yesterday.
Didn't he announce he was going to give a press conference and then decided...
Oh, that was Sunday night, wasn't it?
Yeah.
and then half an hour later it was oh no i've changed my mind i'm I'm going to try and stick it out.
Yeah.
So it's really, really hanging in the balance.
Certainly yesterday, about late afternoon yesterday, very early evening, it was touch and go, really, really touch and go.
People that really, really know what they're talking about are saying that he was living hour by hour.
The British government was surviving hour to hour yesterday.
Well, that sounds nice.
So his position is a tiny bit more shored up at this point in time, but not, you know, still not much.
I'm not sure if you're going to go into it, but it was very interesting to see just how many people from his own party were calling for him to resign.
Yeah.
Quite a few.
And obviously he's getting attacked from both the right of him and the left of him as well, from reform voters and those further right and Green Party members and pretty much everyone and his own party.
So he's got very few friends left.
Very, very few.
So quickly to run through it, obviously all the opposition parties, all of them, from Niger to that Polanski dude, and of course the Tories and the Lib Dems, all of them are calling for him to go, of course.
A lot of the media calling for him to go.
The head of the Fire Brigade Union, the head of Scottish Labour.
What is it?
That Sarwa.
It's an Indian name, isn't it?
Scottish Labour.
Sarwa.
He called for him to go.
Obviously, quite a lot of Labour backbenchers have been saying it for a while.
But it all boiled down to yesterday that he had a big meeting in Parliament with a lot of the backbenchers, well, all the MPs, basically, more or less.
And that was sort of a crunch moment.
But they backed him up.
There wasn't just a unanimous chorus of them saying you must go.
And then after that, all the cabinet members basically got on Twitter or briefed the mainstream media saying, we still stand behind the Prime Minister.
So he clung on.
If that meeting had gone differently, the government probably would have collapsed yesterday.
But it didn't.
So he's clinging on.
He's really clinging on.
Sorry.
I imagine that his line to them would probably have been, listen, we can achieve more of what we all want to do with me in office than, you know, swapping leaders and then having lots of people say you need to call an election and blah, blah, blah.
And so I think that that's probably the only thing he could have said in his position to sort of reassure them.
Because obviously there's lots of factionalism in the Labour Party, which has been a sort of perennial problem for you.
You're kind of pointing to that he can just press the self-destruct button whenever he wants because he can say to them, if you make me resign, I'll just call an election and then you will all lose your job as well.
I mean I'd be surprised if he did that.
He might not have said it like that, but there's a way that you could say that without saying it.
You could even imply it by saying, well, if I go, you'll have to, you know, pick a new leader and then the electorate will have to.
And then you'll have to get a proper job and none of you are capable of doing a proper job.
First thing to say is that if he did resign, it doesn't mean that whoever takes his place, that would trigger a Labour leadership election, of course.
But whoever wins that doesn't necessarily have to go back to the I mean, Liz Trust decided to, but usually they don't.
Gordon Brown didn't.
John Major didn't.
There's a sort of loose convention people talk about.
Rishi didn't.
Rishi didn't, right?
Liz Truss wasn't going to.
It didn't look like.
So they don't have to at all.
One thing I did find interesting is Wes Streeting, one of the frontrunners to replace Starmer, said that if he is replaced or a prime minister is replaced, there should be a general election.
It should be, yeah.
I think that's fair.
I would.
I do agree with that sentiment.
I think that is the most reasonable thing because it is a change of direction and it is something different than people voted for.
I've always thought, I remember when it happened, even when I was quite young, when John Major did it.
And of course, when Gordon Brown did it.
If it was me, if I was a senior member of a party and the leader left and I became the next leader, I would definitely call an election on principle, on general principle.
I wouldn't want to rule without a mandate.
So I remember that Brown didn't.
I can't remember with John Major.
Did he call an election or did he just...
He just carried on for a while until it was time and then did it and then he squeaked it, didn't he?
John Major in what, 92?
He squeaked it in 92.
To be fair, he wasn't expected to win that one, so he didn't.
No, he wasn't.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, that was a surprise.
Everyone expected the sleazy Tory government of the 80s and early 90s to lose that.
To be fair, by winning that election, he doomed the country.
Because if he had lost 92, we would have got John Smith and then Labour would have been out in one term.
Instead, he held on long enough for the rise of Tony Blair.
Well, wasn't it still Kinnock in 92?
Wasn't it John Major versus Kinnock?
Oh, yeah, it might be.
You wouldn't want the Lord Kinnock.
Yeah, but it would have been one term of Kinnock.
And instead, we got Blair.
So if Kinnock didn't he fall over at the beach?
That was much earlier.
That was in like 1982 or something.
But yeah, yeah, yeah.
Still.
You can't be Prime Minister after that.
You can't fall over on the beach on camera and then be Prime Minister.
You can't.
Yeah, but Bojo got stuck on that line with the little flags.
I think that only helped him, to be honest.
Somehow.
Somehow.
You should have left him on the line.
So the latest stuff that's happening, if you watch the Bo show in the morning, I go through the papers.
So this is just what's in the papers as of this morning.
And a lot of it is about sort of when Starmer's going to go.
Even though he managed to avoid being ousted yesterday, just about.
They're still sort of looking forward to at some point when it happens, if Labour lose that by-election in Manchester in two weeks' time, or when, really, they get trounced at the local elections in May.
It doesn't seem like with the best will in the world, Starmer's going to make it another three and a half years.
So we're sort of looking ahead to sort of a post-Starmer world.
You know, who's it going to be?
But then you could argue that now he's come this far, like Olympic clinging onto the hull of a ship, he's going to, you know, stay there for as long as he possibly can.
So no matter how many scandals, how unpopular he is, he's just going to weather the storm.
And by constitutional right, you know, we've got an uncoded Labour government.
That's true, yeah.
So the more he holds on, the more people are going to hate them.
Well, it's not simply about how stubborn Starma wants to be.
It's whether his own backbenchers trigger some sort of vote of no confidence against him and he loses.
So in other words, a bit like Maggie Thatcher in 1991, if her own party, his own party, come to him and say, look, all the backbenchers, all the parliamentary, the Labour parliamentary party, have got the numbers and the will to launch a vote of no confidence against you.
And they will win.
If you let that happen, they will win.
Then it doesn't matter how really stubborn Starma wants to be, he will have to leave.
Well, he might actually go through the process of having the vote of no confidence, but assuming he would lose that, then he would have to leave.
But they can't blow him up without losing their jobs as well.
So the same deterrence.
They would keep their jobs, though, for another three and a half years at least.
Assuming whoever took over didn't call a general election, they wouldn't.
But if it's a vote of no confidence, that brings down the government.
Prime Minister's Humiliating Exit00:03:58
Yeah.
So they wouldn't be able to do a vote of no confidence without triggering an election.
It would have to be...
They would, they could.
Wouldn't they?
I believe so.
I believe so, yeah.
Right, maybe.
I'm going to check it.
I mean, well, look at what happened when look what happened when Rishi took over or Trust took over and then Rishi or look what happened when they didn't really go full process.
You're right.
It doesn't automatically trigger an election.
Oh, I remember looking at this.
Now, there's a specific wording that you need to include to make it binding to trigger an election.
But it initiates a 14-day period where the government must regain the confidence of the House of Commons or face a mandatory general election.
That's the one.
So there's a window of time.
Yes.
All right.
So it's a bit more complicated, I think.
So we're looking at who will be next, really.
There was all talk of Wes Streeting.
You know, his name has been thrown around even in the last few months before even the latest Mandelson-Epstein scandal really hit.
It was whenever there's talk or whispers of a coup, an internal coup, it's Streeting's name that has always come up.
And he's their best option.
Well, is he?
I mean, so the main players, aren't they, would be Streeting, Rainer, Cooper, Mahmood, maybe that Powell, that Lucy Powell woman, Ed Miliband, David Lamy.
It's likely to be one of those names, isn't it?
Please let it be David Lamy.
I'm not an accelerationist.
I can't agree with you there.
be so fun it would be funny but it'd be more for me it'd be more humiliating than fun Prime Minister's question funnels would be a Ugandan arguing with a Nigerian.
Yeah, is that good?
Why is that good?
Because, I mean, if you're going to...
It's amusing, but...
If you're going to embrace the state that Britain...
I want future historians to look back and say, why did it get to that before they did whatever, you know...
Yeah.
I don't.
I get that it's funny, but it's just more humiliating than funny, though.
Yeah, but I mean, I'm pretty long on humiliation at this point.
I know Lamy will be going on and on about being the first black prime minister and blah, blah, blah.
It'd be terrible.
Yes.
Well, on the Bow Show, the morning breakfast show, I did do a poll a few days back saying who would you want it to be out of all of and Lamy won.
Yeah.
So there's he won quite easily.
He got like 46% of the vote.
We gave like four names and he easily won.
You want a Labour Prime Minister who doesn't utterly embarrass you then.
Yeah.
I mean, if it was up to me, I could just press a button.
I would probably pick Yvette Cooper.
She's the least embarrassing.
She's the closest thing to an actual serious statesperson.
Yes.
As crazy as that is.
I need to pinch myself.
Right, yeah.
Are those words coming out of my mouth?
Am I really saying that?
But still, when you look at the names, like what?
Like, Rainer, Ed Miliband?
They should pick Rainer.
Because she is, she, I mean, she's the only one of them that has any personality.
She's actually got a big personality.
And if I was Labour, I'd be thinking, what is going to preserve somewhere in the region of 100 to 150 seats?
I wouldn't be going to win.
Okay.
Who's going to preserve 100?
Damage limitation.
Yes.
And I think Rainer is the only one who's got enough personality that people will feel, oh, yeah, okay, I'll still vote Labour.
Strategically, as well, it makes sense for Labour because, of course, they're hemorrhaging votes to reform and getting a northerner in might help.
I see the point you're making.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe.
We shall see.
So, yeah, West Streeting was like, some said he attempted a coup.
I mean, it was the most weak-wristed, lame-ass coup possible.
Well, it wasn't.
It wasn't.
He bottled it.
Suits and Political Gambles00:08:18
Another headline says that he literally bottled it.
Yeah, PM comes out fighting.
You're saying every political fight I've ever had, I've always won.
Stand by.
I mean, one of the biggest arguments they were making is that people hated it, and they did, when the Tories kept changing leadership.
So let's stop.
You've got to stand behind Keir Starmer, Labour MPs.
You've got to stand behind him because the thing is, they're going to lose at the next general election anyway.
Well, I mean, to be fair, the only reason he's won every political fight he's ever had is because he just gets people arrested when they disagree with him.
Yeah.
Has he had any real knockdown serious political fights in his life?
Wasn't he just parachuted in whenever he wanted to?
Yes.
And because he's like an old school lefty, he was just allowed to climb the greasy pole.
He's the Fabian frontman.
Right, exactly.
So did he ever have to really fight for his position all that much?
Not really.
But Starman Fires calls to stand down.
Okay, and the other thing, the Express calling for him to resign now.
Yeah.
So he lost Morgan McSweeney.
We haven't even covered that.
That was on Sunday, Sunday evening, Sunday afternoon.
Morgan McSweeney, the chief of staff, number 10 chief of staff, he resigned.
About 24 hours later, there was his name, Tim Allen, the head of community, executive head of communication.
Wasn't he the guy who did the show about home improvements?
Yeah, that's, yeah.
Tim the Tallman Taylor.
Right.
Yeah.
Is that before your time?
Do you remember that?
Home improvement?
A little bit before my time.
You know, the actor, Tim Allen, though.
Yes, I did.
Yeah, right.
How is he relevant here?
Well, so there's Tim Allen, the actor, and there's a completely different man that happens to be called Tim Allen.
Oh, I see.
That's confusing.
Who was until yesterday, the head of communications at number 10.
He's been around forever.
He's been around since 1997, that Tim Allen.
He's only been in that job since September because the last one had had enough.
I think the Morgan McSweeney one is a major mistake.
From what point of view do you mean?
And I put this.
From Starmer's point of view.
Yeah.
So you know how on the right we have learnt when the left is coming for you, never apologise because they just smell blood and then they go for you.
Yeah.
I think politicians have not learnt that throwing this guy under the bus, all it's going to do is put blood in the water.
Yeah.
Well, it's admitting a mistake, isn't it?
If you say, no, actually, you know, he wasn't guilty of Mandelson's crimes, therefore we shouldn't punish him.
You know, it might be good enough to carry on.
The correct political way of playing this would be before he got beat up at PMQs by Kemi, was to come out hard on Mandelson and say we're investigating him for treason.
And that would have neutralised the issue.
It would have taken away Kemi's power.
He could have driven events, but instead he's been driven by events.
It's a fair take, but I think Blair got rid of treason.
He did, yeah.
Didn't he?
So that's not actually.
I think he got rid of the death penalty for it.
Well, we haven't had the death penalty for since, what, the 60s?
Literally, he should actually execute.
Oh, no, you're right.
We got rid of the death penalty apart from treason.
And then that's what Blair got rid of.
Right.
So you can still be done for treason, but you just can't be executed for it.
But he should genuinely execute Mandelson because that is pretty much the only way to restore the public's faith in government at this point.
Legally, of course.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, you just changed it.
I mean, he's got a majority.
You mean you could push it through?
Do it in public at Tyburn.
Old school.
17th century style.
Hung by the neck at Tyburn.
What's a Tyburn?
Is that a place?
A place in London, yeah.
Oh.
Well, it's where Marble Arch is now, I believe.
It's where Marble Arch is.
Is that what we mean?
It used to be called Tyburn.
Did we not ever do any of the...
I mean, you're a historian.
You don't know.
Did we not ever do the more creative stuff, like the Iron Bull and whatever?
You know, the fire.
Iron Bull, that's like ancient Greece.
No, it's usually just being hung, wasn't it?
Usually.
It depends how far back you go, right?
If you go back to medieval times, there's sort of all sorts of different things, right?
Being hung drawn on quarters, for example.
You can see the slippery slope.
As soon as you start going soft on punishment, you can just see, and then it ends up with like nothing.
Zero compromise on quartering, is what you're arguing.
Make quartering great again.
Is that what you're saying?
Okay.
So the next thing that might happen is that the cabinet secretary himself, Chris Warmold, some people are saying that he's, well, he's wanted to go for a while now, but he might go in the next few days.
Of course, that would be pretty massive.
The cabinet secretary, the highest sort of civil servant, essentially.
Is that the new Sir Humphrey?
It is, yeah.
I mean, was Sir Humphrey, maybe in yes, Prime Minister, Sir Humphrey was actually the cabinet secretary, but he was just a permanent secretary and yes, minister.
But anyway, anyway, the point is, um, if he went, that would be another massive blow, another massive blow.
Um, so that that might happen.
And of course, if Labour lose that Manchester by-election, then if they get badly beaten in it, right, if they come third or something, then surely there'll be another whole round of trying to remove Starmer from his position.
But he will be stubborn, right?
Until men or women in grey suits come to number 10 and say, The numbers are against you, you will lose a vote of no confidence, and they're gonna do it.
Until that happens, he won't resign, I don't think, right?
I think we can count on that.
Yeah, are you mentioning women in grey suits?
Because that's your next link, because the new Morgan McStanley is literally two boss women, is it boss girls?
And that was a reference to, again, when they got rid of Thatcher, the law around that was that men in grey suits came to tell her it's over.
Law as an L-O-R-E- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The mythos around that was that men in grey suits came to tell her.
It is women now.
Well, there was an article earlier, it must have been last week that Labour said, someone in Labour said that when that happens to Starmer, we're going to send women in grey suits.
Okay.
They were virtually signalling about how progressive they are.
That when that happens, we should send women in grey suits.
They wouldn't grey suits.
Oh, yeah.
They need to be disabled women of colour in grey suits, don't they, really?
Yes.
Ideally.
Or why not, you know, go the whole hog and just make them non-binary?
Yes.
I mean, if they're disabled, shouldn't it be orange suits?
What?
Like they're from an American prison or something?
They're from Kwantana Bay.
No, maybe, maybe disabled people don't wear orange.
I don't know.
I was the jets, do you think?
So, yeah, Starmer's clinging on by his fingernails at the moment.
I mean, the Financial Times doing a piece.
What is the route to recovery?
I mean, he's sort of fundamentally weakened, isn't he, really?
What road could recovery could he have with his politics?
Everything he wants to do is against everything the country wants.
Yeah.
Well, there was one data point that someone said actually in a super chat this morning, which was interesting.
They said, remember when Maggie Thatcher, the first couple of years of Maggie Thatcher's premiership, she was one of the most unpopular PMs of all time.
And then after the Falklands happened, she went to the second most popular after Winston Churchill of all time.
And I said, yeah, fine.
Good point.
Interesting and good point.
But do you see something like that happening for Sir Kir?
He just needs to engineer a situation where Russia invades the Isle of Wight.
Because I mean, anything else, I mean, we wouldn't do the Falklands today.
We might be able to retake the Isle of Wight.
And it's an astounding battlefield win.
And everyone loves Sir Kir suddenly.
Yeah, it's not like something like that isn't likely to happen from the front as well.
Yes.
Like the route that he could rebuild the team around him and turn it all around and be popular again and win at a general election.
It's unlikely, isn't it?
But there you go.
It feels like Sakir Starmer's premiership is, you know, the clock is ticking.
One way or another.
I would be extremely find it extremely unlikely that he's still here by the end of May.
To be fair, something's going to topple it, isn't it?
It was ticking the moment he came out for child murderers and rapists and against the population of England back in the Southport riots.
Sakir Starmer's Clock Is Ticking00:03:52
Yeah.
Well, there weren't riots.
The only way they got rioty was because the police went in with their size 12s and riled people up to the point where they got pissed off.
I mean, it was from that moment onwards, he was finished.
Well, he is the most unpopular prime minister of all time, right?
Going back to Walpole even, just of all time.
Yes.
So I feel like he might last now until that by-election, which is two weeks Thursdays, that is.
And if they lose that, he'll probably be gone around then.
If they win that, maybe again he can cling on until May.
But then surely in May, when they surely get trounced in the local elections, it's going to be impossible.
There'll be loads of people.
That it's going to be Lamy.
Once the cabinet ministers start resigning, one after the other, and there's domino effect.
Like they do with Boris.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Once that process begins, surely it's the end.
But we'll see.
We'll see what happens.
Comedy comment things.
Can you see your comments, Bo?
Yeah, just about my things in the way, but if you go ahead and read them for me, I wouldn't mind.
Sigglestone, when is the release of Lotus Eater Sigma?
I don't know.
I've not had to concern myself with that end of the alphabet.
He also says, imagine getting brutally frame-mogged while starmagooning in front of the court results, spiking folds.
What the hell are you talking about?
Yeah, I see you've seen that post as well.
Oh, I saw your response to it.
You had the same exact thought as I did, and you referenced Clockwork Orange.
All right.
It did remind me of that sort of complete vocabulary of slang terms.
All it was was there was a tweet doing the rounds on Twitter where someone, some Zoomers, using so much slang in and around like the dating scene, an incel scene, that it was just absurd.
It barely made any sense.
It doesn't really make sense.
Well, me too.
The only reason I saw it is because loads of people like Nick Dixon and Stelios were joking about it and retweeting it and clowning on it.
It was funny.
It was funny, yeah.
It's kind of funny.
Opuck says something about rent boys.
I don't know why you're bringing up rent boys.
We were talking about Starmer.
But I can't read that anyway.
Geralt, possibly, says, if it's a Ugandan and an Nigerian at PMQs, does that make us a banana republic?
I don't know why you're making that connection, sir.
I just think it's a historic first.
I just think that's interesting.
And Logan Pine says, I have a feeling that the bunker walls are closing in and they'd be gone by the end of the month.
I think it's at the part of Downfall where he's requesting gasoline.
Right.
Oh, and Magnus, he says, I'm an American who just recently started following Premier League football.
Oh, you have my condolences.
Would you say this one is still an institution in the UK and how has it managed to stay healthy?
I don't know.
I don't want to.
It's adopted a bit of wokeness.
Like, they have all of the initiatives of, like, yes, get racism out of football.
Did they kneel for BLM?
They did, but the fans booed.
Oh, okay.
Football has been at the forefront of anti-racism almost my entire life.
I remember even in the 90s, even in the early 90s, it was let's kick racism out of football.
That's been around since day for a long time.
And they have these initiatives like the LGBT ones.
And so there's a lot of sort of left-wing politics in it.
But the sport itself, you can still watch a game and it's unaffected by it, I suppose.
But, you know, my team is Plymouth Argyle, so we don't ever play in the Premier League.
I didn't even know that was a team, to be honest.
Public Sector Productivity Crisis00:15:00
Oh, cheers.
I don't know anything about Friday.
So, Nigel Farage, In an attempt to talk about absolutely anything apart from remigration, it's decided that he's coming for your work-life balance.
Samson, do you want to play the clip?
Can't go on the sick because you've got mild anxiety.
But it is an attitudinal change that Britain needs.
An attitudinal change to hard work rather than work-life balance.
An attitudinal change to the idea of working from home.
People aren't more productive working at home.
It's a load of nonsense.
They're more productive being with other fellow human beings and working as part of the team.
And every retired boomer cheered.
Every retired boomer clapped.
Yeah, yeah, Samson, why don't you play that again from about the halfway mark, but with the sound off, just so we can enjoy the, there we go, the audience.
There we are.
So this was filmed on a Monday afternoon while Parliament was sitting.
Yeah, Farage wasn't in the office.
Nor was anyone in the studio there or the conference hall.
But no, apparently the rest of us aren't allowed to work from home anymore.
There's still a few heads there with colour in their hair.
Just she could pass for 50.
So.
What do we think about this, lads?
Because I've actually worked from home the last probably year, 18 months or so before I started working at Lotus City.
So I worked from home.
In, you know, like a proper relatively high-pressure job where you couldn't really get away with not doing stuff.
You were being monitored the whole time remotely.
I think that's the issue.
And I actually got way more done at home because I was so paranoid that I was going to get a reputation for slacking off.
And so I found myself working into the evening.
It was like, it was worse.
I did more working from home, but I can also see the argument how a lot of people, depending on what your job is, really, you just sort of pretend you're doing work and you're not really.
Well, we have a hybrid model here, don't we?
We kind of have like one day a week or something.
You can work from home.
I think that's the most common where they still call people into the office, but you have some days where you work from home.
Of course, the rise of work from home jobs is a COVID thing, but it's one of the few good things that's come out of it, really.
Well, also, the tech just enables it.
Yeah, well, there's not really any reason to have the office space.
It makes sense for a business to not have the office overheads.
You know, you don't have to pay for as much office space if you've always got people working from home.
Or you can base your entire business as well.
And it's not just the rents as well.
I mean, what happened is rents were going up.
Then we had COVID.
Now nobody wants to work in an office anymore.
And so the rents are coming down, but the business rates are still going up.
So you pay almost as much in business rates as you do in rent these days.
So he's going to have to re-engineer a whole bunch of things.
I mean, people maintaining a huge office so that people can pretend to work.
It's just not viable with the cost base anymore.
I mean, where I said I've worked from home for the last sort of year or 18 months, whatever it was, before that I worked in offices, commuted from Essex into London and worked in an office for like 16 odd years.
So I've also lived that experience for many, many, many years.
And one thing was great was to not have to commute, not spend loads of money on the commute, thousands of pounds a year and the stress of it and having to get up much, much earlier.
And then sometimes I've did lots of different types of jobs.
Sometimes the office environment is really, really toxic and horrible, dehumanizing even.
Sometimes if you're in a little cubicle on your own and you're completely atomized and people you work with are dicks and you hate them and they hate you and there's all sorts of office politics.
Loads of things are better from work by working from home.
Loads and loads of things are better.
But it's not perfect.
There are some downsides to it as well.
You can be atomized in that way that you find yourself never leaving the house or you feel like it's like a millstone around your neck and you have to work harder if you're not.
And also commuting into London these days, it's because you're getting pushed out further because of rents, you're having to commute longer and you're wedged in increasingly with people who aren't even English.
do that every day when you come in and it's just like well why what i don't understand why he thinks that this is an appropriate because he's speaking as basically the presumed prime minister So there's weight behind the stuff that he says like that.
Why is this any business of the government?
It should be a purely private enterprise question.
I thought he was meant to be free market.
Yeah, this is not especially in keeping with that.
Well, it's sounding to me like he's trying to uphold the social contract.
And I think you all know what I mean, which is, yes, this.
Nick 30, poor old Nick 30.
Because what he's basically saying is we need to drive productivity as high as possible.
Well, you've got to remember, there's officially 70 million people in this country.
It's probably 80 or 90.
Of those, 30 million are working.
Of half of those are getting basically benefits that add up to more than their tax contribution.
So this country is being propped up on the back of about 15 million nicks.
Well, I know how that feels.
I am 30 years old and the government is milking me for cash.
There's no goodwill for this.
It's basically just breeding an entire generation of resentful people who hate how things work.
And if Farage is then going out of his way to say, you know, that one consolation that you get to work from home, you get to wake up and maybe still wear your pajama buttons in your meetings and be a little bit comfortable.
I'm going to take that away from you.
think that that's going to be a really sore why don't you all you literally nigel all you need to do is talk about re-migration and then do it yeah But why are you pissing away goodwill from all the nicks who want to vote for you to take away the one thing that makes their life somewhat bearable one or two days a week?
I don't get it.
Well, because his containment machine doesn't actually want to win.
It's deliberately tanking it because that's what Nigel always does.
Well, it's an unforced error at the very least.
I don't know.
Isn't it funny that we used to talk about two things we used to talk about loads is the size classroom sizes.
That was always a political talking point.
How many millions of people are unemployed at any given moment?
Massive political talking point.
Never really hear any of either of those two things very much.
It's so far down the problems, but they're so far down the priority list.
We don't even touch them anymore.
Like, how many millions of people just simply don't work?
It's not in the paper.
It's not in the news much.
The politicians don't argue and talk about it all that much.
Yeah, classroom side's exploding.
don't talk about that because it flies in the face of...
And also they don't speak English as a first language when they get them into school, so they're having to spend a lot of effort into that as well.
I mean, the other thing that really doesn't help with this is if you look at Farage's donors, I mean, we've got, for some reason, this guy is one of his major donors.
Sashan Gahanderi.
Sassan Gahanderi.
So he is the Iranian billionaire.
They call him the Iranian-born British donor.
And he runs a property company.
And as we know, the big problem with property companies is they've got loads of empty offices.
And also, property companies were, when the Conservative Party were in government, a third of their donors.
And of course, that creates an incentive for the party to push up the cost of property, which means growing the population.
And the only way to grow the population in the current paradigm is to import more people, apparently, from the farmers.
And stop the people who are paying for that importation to leave offices because your donors have got lots of commercial property.
And there's also, of course, the other one is Richard Tice.
We all know he's a businessman, but what is he a businessman of?
Oh, it's property asset management.
There we go.
That's his career, property asset management.
And so, yeah, these incentives are not positive because one of the ways, you know, if I could pick three things that would increase the quality of life of the British people, mass deportations, reducing property prices, which of course that first one does as well, is the first one because it's a bubble.
You know, the only reason people are investing so much in property is because the economy is bad in the first place.
And it's fixing the economy.
Yes.
Like those three things all linked together, but all far more important to people than forcing them to work in the office.
I think you're right when you said all he should really be talking about is remigration, remigration, remigration.
Yes.
That's what I would be doing.
Because that fixes so many things if you get rid of the few million people that are here that shouldn't be.
Not just the social fabric and not just our demographic future, but just pressure on everything from the NHS on down.
Housing, wages, everything.
Prisons.
So should just everything.
Yeah.
School sizes, classroom sizes.
So it should just be banging that drum constantly.
But he's too much of a political winkling to do that.
And he's too scared of what Robert Peston might say.
Yeah.
I mean, Farage himself hasn't worked in an office job since 1994.
Now, if we could have the world of 1994 back where you got a job, even in a big city, and you could afford to rent.
I mean, in 1994, you could afford to rent for most jobs, most city-based jobs, somewhere within zone one or two.
I wasn't even born until the following year.
Was that?
I wasn't even born until the following year.
Honestly, that is the biggest financial mistake that I see people making is being born after about 1980.
I know it was a bit of a poor decision on my part, but I'll try and correct it.
It seems careless.
I'm sorry, right?
Made a mistake.
If you can't get that right, you cannot expect to have any assets in life.
But it was a different world back then.
That was only in like year nine.
Yeah.
But don't you remember when we first sort of went to the city, you know, you might live in like zone three or four if you wanted to, but you could at least rent somewhere within the centre.
Whereas these days, I mean, buying is completely out the window.
And even renting out in bloody zone five or six is difficult enough.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know people who've got very, very high salaries living in London, they're still living in a flat share.
Yes.
As in, you know, into their late 20s, early 30s, with a professional career, done everything right, they still can't.
And actually, if you look at those professional careers in London, yes, they do pay more, but you actually arbitrage away all of it to boom the landlords.
So the only reason to take a high-paying career in London is if you're so if you're so convinced that your salary is going to do sort of parabolic rise, then it's worth doing.
But you're actually better off just getting a normal job outside London and paying like some small amount of money.
Right.
All the smartest people I know have got a London-based job where they work from home.
Yeah.
That's like the only way to make it viable.
That's the sort of meta of the economy at the minute is you work from home so you don't have to live in London whilst getting a London salary.
Bit like reform then.
I mean they've got a whole bunch of these jobs which are work from home, remote.
And actually, to be fair to him, if he was talking about the public sector, then I grant it.
Yeah, the civil service had a bit of a scandal a little while ago, didn't they?
Where it came out that they were doing things like gardening and all sorts of things.
I was pretty happy with that because the less work they do, the better.
But from the perspective of someone who actually wants to use the government, I imagine that's not very pleasant.
The problem is, is that public sector productivity has not risen since the 80s.
So that basically meant they got PCs, they got internet, they've now got AI, they've got remote data storage, digital data storage.
All of those things have had zero impact on public sector productivity.
Now, obviously, those things did have an increase, but they just absorbed it by having more meetings and more bureaucracy and more layers to stuff.
They also pay themselves a lot more these days as well.
Well, that as well.
Salaries of the public sector have gone up much more so than the private sector.
And it's at the cost of the private sector because, of course, the private sector then pays for it.
And of course, it's not equal as well in that a lot of the pay rises are for civil servants and the like, not nurses.
So I think the issue that he's really circulating is that public sector productivity is incredibly low and they are taking the piss probably on work from home.
But he should address that directly and not go after the relationship that people have with their employers because that is entirely up to them.
One thing I could think of is that he might be worried that the civil service is going to be so hostile to him that he doesn't want to call them out directly because then they'll just be, you know.
Well, he's the wrong man for the job then if he's worried about it.
I agree.
I agree.
But I think it might be occurring to him because he still thinks about things in these sorts of terms that he's going to come in and everything's going to work and people are going to do what he says.
Again, he's a political weakling.
The government, to do what's necessary, needs to go to war with Whitehall, essentially.
Force them, bend them to your will, make them fulfil the government policy.
Fire loads of the permanent secretaries if you need to.
Change everyone, everyone in the cabinet office if you need to.
Like the government would need to dominate, really, really dominate the civil service.
Well, the correct thing to do.
But Nigel's obviously got no intention of doing anything of the kind, has he?
Or hiring anyone capable of doing that?
Well, the correct thing to do is to get rid of at least half of the government departments as is.
Yeah, get rid of them.
Athwarer, loads of them.
As well as have a very deep purge of the civil service in the first place, because a lot of them, as we know, are very much politically motivated.
We've got hard evidence of that in all the scandals and stories coming out.
Pros, Cons, and Purges00:08:51
So to be fair, I did, in between leaving the city and coming here, I did a bit of contract work for various places and I did a bit in local government and I thought I was going to get it sorted out in no time because I just assumed as a sort of right-winger that I was going to walk into this organisation and find that it was lavishly overfunded because I could see from the outside they had this huge budget.
And I walked in there and I was really shocked because what I actually found was that the entire organisation was utterly threadbare.
Really, they penny-pinched to the nth degree.
And then I worked out, okay, what's actually happening is they've had all this remit expansion where they're going to do all of these different things and then they've aggressively cut those programs every time.
And we've got to the point where it's trying to do hundreds of different things, but not financing each of them to the point where they can actually do that thing.
But the overall budget of trying to do everything on a threadbare basis still adds up to a big budget.
So then I was like, okay, well, that's fairly simple then.
You need to identify the top, you know, 10 things that you actually want to do, put all your effort into that and just chop the function of the other, you know, 90% of things that you don't need to do.
And then I got into that and then realised that actually a lot of this stuff is mandated from statute, from government.
So it's just, it's fundamentally incapable of being an efficient organisation because they're trying to do that.
The government could change.
And that's where he should be focused.
He should be focused on what we're going to do is we're going to shrink the scope of government down to the point where it can actually do a handful of things quite well and then just ditch all of the rest and get into this mindset of actually it's not the government's job to do everything.
Well, it's been designed in such a way as it keeps you on the rails, doesn't it?
And it incentivises a specific agenda by the person that's left their fingerprints on it the most, which is sort of new labor, really.
And so it just becomes an enterprise in pushing that ideology.
I'll also share this.
Because you've seen all those tweets on messages on social media where leftists have a go at Fraj because he doesn't turn up to Parliament, actually.
He turns up like a third of the time.
And I've always dismissed that because, oh, yeah, but his real job is to try and get to be Prime Minister.
But if he's going to start having a go at my bloody work from home, then I'm going to start having a go at him for not turning up to bloody parliament.
Yeah, I think turning up to parliament is more important than a person working from home.
If that office is to mean anything, being a parliamentarian, surely you should take it seriously and not just be there a third of the time.
If I had a job and only showed up a third of the time, I would get fired.
I mean, I can make an argument from working in the office, which is, and you'll know this as well.
When you are doing a, you know, quite a complex thing, it's one thing just doing the job, but actually some of your best insight comes from the little interactions you have with the more senior guys.
Or even more so, when you go down the pub with them after work and they tell you about, I don't know, in my case, it was deals they'd done or something like that.
You actually learn a lot more from those kind of little interactions that you wouldn't have with a work-from-home situation.
So I am alive to it, but ultimately it has to come down to what is right for each individual firm.
It totally depends what your job is.
Yes.
It absolutely depends.
I mean, my overall take on it, having done both, is that there are pros and cons of both.
It was way better to work from home for most reasons.
You presumably already knew what you were doing when you started doing that.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Right.
There are pros and cons of both.
But the pros of working from home massively outweighed the cons, I thought.
But it totally depends what your job is, doesn't it?
But yeah, it is funny.
It is a bit rich.
I was going to say it when we was watching the clip right at the beginning where Nigel's talking on stage.
I was going to say, wait, isn't he known for not turning up to Parliament?
so yeah it's a bit rich for him to and he was filming that on a monday afternoon when parliament was in session So there's that as well.
I mean, of all the things, you're quite right, I think, to point out everything somebody like Farage or any leader of any party, it's kind of up to them, isn't it, to pick and choose what they highlight and what they don't on any given day.
Yeah, like he's picking that nigga.
It should be that migration things.
I think it speaks of a lack of inspiration if that's what he's going to.
And it's also just appealing to boomer voters that would already vote for him already.
There's a lot of young people who he's disillusioned who, as you rightfully pointed out, it's Nick 30.
Exactly.
I mean, those, I mean, the older boomers, they're either going to vote from him.
They're either stuck in Tory land or they've already come over.
It's this guy who, you know, is actually working for me.
I don't see the point of pissing off Nick.
What's the benefit that he's getting out of this?
He should focus on the remigration thing.
Just focus on that.
No, it's impossible, though, isn't it?
Don't you remember?
Yeah.
It's impossible.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah, so not impressed with that.
I stuck in, because it was relevant, the late, great Scott Adams had a piece on that, so I thought I'd share that.
Give you a second and digest that.
And also, Connor had quite a good tweet on it, which his tweet's quite long, but he had quite a good take on it there.
Some of the people came back on Connor saying, yeah, but the reason why working in an office is good is because lots of people meet their partner in the office.
It's true.
Not the best career move, dating where you work necessarily.
The follow-on from that is that that's been comprehensively destroyed over the last 10 years as well now.
What has, sorry?
What?
Dating at work.
Because let's say you say hello to a woman at work and she doesn't find you attractive.
then the next thing you know, you're in front of HR.
Risky game.
Yeah.
This is the thing.
If we could have the office culture of 1994 back, when the last time Raj was working in an office, yeah, fine.
but we don't have that we can't afford to live in well i can but you know people people in start starting their career they can't afford to bloody live in central london The office environment has changed.
And I don't see why this is the business of the government at all.
So, yeah, not impressed, Raj.
Fair point.
Right.
Let's see what the ranters say.
So Danny AAA says, on working remote, I've been remote for the last nine years.
Incredibly base for the last eight.
I think we've found the issue.
Working from home makes you more politically aware.
I don't know.
You've got more time to follow politics.
You're not commuting.
What have we got?
I think that might be what I'm saying.
Single stone says the only kind of working from home that should be farming on your land.
The only way your boss should be in your home when he's chained up in your basement.
Well, whatever you get up to, sir.
Change an idea.
It says, home working saves me eight hours and 80 pounds a week, which I can spend with my kids.
Simply not voting for a party that wants to take that away.
Fair point.
It's a very good point.
It's just needless picking this silly battle.
I think what makes people vote a certain way is sometimes it's sort of a big meta point, like remigration, like the vision of what Britain should be.
But a lot of people vote on, will this be better or worse for my life?
Yes.
And that is one of the things where a lot of people are like, I'm working from home.
I love it.
It's much better than working from the office.
Do you want to take that away from me?
That's what I like about my job.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Just like that person said there, saves me money and hours and hours of my life.
So I'm not going to vote for it because.
Farage saying this, it's like the single most thing that he could suggest that would reduce the quality of life of most working people.
Like, unless he said you get, like, mandatory corporal punishment if you're an employee or something.
Yes.
That's the only way it could be worse, really.
Pictures And Noses00:11:26
I mean, I would still take that over the taxation level.
So, a lot of people have been talking about whether Epstein is still alive.
And, of course, people have been talking about that for as long as it's been a point of speculation.
And of course, the recent emails have added more fuel to this fire.
And I wanted to have a look at the evidence in an even-handed way.
Because personally, I'm not entirely convinced.
I don't think there's a smoking gun or anything definitive.
But I can see the case people are making.
And I think that there is an incentive as well to keep him alive.
Because, of course, if he was running this extortion racket with some of the most important people, that's some very valuable information there.
And say the US government wants to know that information and they want to know that he's giving it over truthfully.
Well, he might want to come to a deal in which he says, well, I would like to be free.
I don't want to be in prison for the rest of my life.
And I'll give you the information.
And then maybe they can say, oh, well, the public won't like that.
So, you know, let's, you know, state something.
It was a little bit conspiratorial.
However, that brings us quite nicely to the nature of his supposed last days.
Where there was a post on 4chan in 2019, of course, when Epstein was in prison, saying, not saying anything after this, please do not dox me.
But last night, after quarter past four in the morning, I think that is, they took him medical in a wheelchair, front cuffed, but not with one triage nurse, says they spoke to him.
Next thing we know, Trip Van shows up.
We do not do releases on weekends unless Judge orders it.
Next thing we know, he's put in a single man cell and unalives himself for the sake of YouTube.
I know it's annoying that I have to say that.
Here's the thing.
The trip van did not sign in.
We did not record the plate number and a guy in a green dress military outfit was in the back of the van according to the tower guy who let him through the gate.
You guys, I'm shaking right now, but I think they just switched him out.
Is this the post that was published just before the news came out?
So it's credible because it came out just before the news of Epstein.
Yeah, it's contemporary to the time.
And you'd think, okay, this is just a post on 4chan.
People post all sorts of things.
I was going to say that.
However, now we have documents verifying this person.
It was this guy, Roberto.
He talked him.
He specifically asked you not to.
I mean, it was the government that did it.
But, you know, it's for a higher purpose here.
Yeah, sorry for showing your name, but it's just to prove that you are a real person.
So he was actually a prison guard.
Yeah, and they took him aside and spoke to him because of his post specifically.
They mentioned his 4chan post.
And so it came to their attention, which is interesting in and of itself because, you know, why should the government really care what a prison guard is saying?
Even if he's saying this and that there's funny business going on.
You know, from the perspective of the people who believe he's still alive, like this person, for example, this seems to be pretty good evidence.
Well, I'm now convinced.
No, seriously.
I think already this is good enough.
Already?
Yes.
Okay, well, we've only just got started.
All right, we'll carry on, but...
I mean, it could just be the...
I'm sceptical, but for the record.
It could also be the case of he's a very high-profile person and they're doing things slightly differently.
There's government and intelligence implications.
They're doing things differently.
There could be an explanation here, but this guy was a prison guard and he posted that before the news of the Epstein thing broke.
I mean, it's just, it wouldn't make any sense.
Plus these people, they never kill their own, so i'm inclined to believe That this guy's on the money.
At the very least, this is enough to make me think there's some funny business going on.
What the nature of that funny business is, whether it's replacing him in his cell, we're not too sure yet.
Well, a couple of things I'll just say real quick.
You made the argument or the logic that it's better for certain people that are implicated if Epstein's alive.
I would argue the exact opposite.
As in, it's better for the government.
Yeah, I get it.
I get it.
I'd say the exact opposite.
As in, there's lots of people that want him dead because of releasing information.
His mouth is shut for all time.
I mean, that's another angle entirely, that Epstein was killed as well.
Well, yeah.
See, that's what I think.
I'll let you make the argument, and maybe I'll change my mind in the next 15-20 minutes.
But I feel like he is dead, but it wasn't suicide.
That's like he was silenced.
But, you know, who knows?
I'm not ruling out 100% that he was switched out because I don't know.
It just seems to me highly unlikely.
That has occurred as well.
It's quite elaborate, isn't it?
To switch him out, and now he's somewhere else in the world.
I'll let you continue, but he's still living somewhere else in the world.
I can guess where.
That just seems, again, not that it's not possible.
And I wouldn't rule it out 100%, but it just seems unlikely.
That's what you often have to say when you're looking at history, for example, trying to figure out what actually happened at some point long ago when there's very few sources.
You end up having to make a decision about what's more or less likely.
It just seems quite elaborate.
But anyway, I'll let you go on.
Well, my actual opinion is that I don't really know.
But there's enough things, you know, enough questions about this that I don't think you should take the official narrative at face value.
And there's also incentives to misrepresent it.
However, the truth is, we don't know for certain whether he was killed, whether he was replaced, or whether it was exactly as the authorities said.
I mean, there is no possibility it's the last one.
Well, I know that for absolute certain.
Allow me to further reinforce that because there is good reason not to trust the official narrative.
I'm going to have to read this from the other screen, so sorry if I'm looking away.
Due to the larger news media presence outside the MCC, a male OCME official called and said he would be arriving at the loading dock with a black vehicle.
In order to thwart the media, blank, blank, and blank used boxes and sheets to create what appeared to be a human body, which was put into the white OCME vehicle, which the press followed, allowing the black vehicle to depart unnoticed with Epstein's body.
Well, I haven't seen this before, but what's the credence of this document?
I mean, who's this from?
So this is someone talking about the removal of the alleged body from the prison.
And they're saying that they created a fake body to distract the press.
So at the top, it says interview of.
So this is presumably the FBI interviewing somebody who worked at the prison.
Not necessarily worked at the prison.
We don't necessarily know.
Paramedic.
Yeah, it could be any number of people, but they're talking about faking the body.
This much is true.
so that the press and other people would follow that and then they can slink away quietly, which you'd think that, well, it's not the most ideal thing to have the press following you, but I don't think it's going to impede that much.
If it's a person driving a dead body, you know, what's the emergency?
Does it matter if the press get a photo of an actual body?
And I can't put my...
Well, it's not like he's on display.
you know they're parading him around he's going to be in a if they danced him through New York weekend at Bernie style I mean that would be a bit a bit improper But wheeling somebody out on the press, getting a photo of it, I don't see the issue with that.
Well, one, it says medical chief examiners, it's some type of coroner or coroner adjacent type person or body.
But there is a picture, isn't there?
We're going to get to that.
In fact, that's the next thing.
And there have been people pointing up a picture.
This is one of the pictures, and that's the nose from the picture.
And they show that Epstein's nose looks very different from this.
And I'm not sure, you know, I'm not a coroner, so I don't know whether your nose changes after you die or the method of death affects how your nose is.
But it looks different enough.
It looks like a different nose.
Yeah, it doesn't look like him, really.
The guy...
The guy on the gurney is some Russian or Kazakh or something that just happens to be a looky likey.
And he got blackbagged, flown out, whacked, put on the gurney, wheeled out.
Epstein's alive.
He's in a certain country.
What are you going to say, Bo?
I mean, it's possible, isn't it?
I'm not ruling it out as completely impossible and that that definitely didn't happen.
I'm not going to say that.
I'm not going to argue that.
And that is odd that that nose doesn't seem to be the same nose.
That is odd.
that is an anomaly i would say but still does it still I don't know.
You have to admit, Bo.
I don't know.
It could be that that picture is been shopped in some way.
I don't know.
Ultimately, the argument you're making, Bo, is what is the most likely outcome?
Step back from that.
How likely is it that the world is run by a satanic pedo cult that murders kids for adrenochrome and uses their influence network to profiteer at the expense of the whatever they call us?
From that framework, the whole simplest solution thing looks a bit different.
There's nothing too audacious and insane that they wouldn't do.
Yep.
What I'm saying is the way that they structured it was so audacious and so insane that this is like little league.
Yeah, I get that.
Insane.
Yeah.
Completely get that and agree with it.
So there's another question about his death.
A statement announcing his death emerged from the files, but it was dated a day before he allegedly took his own life in his cell, which is interesting.
And the mail reports here.
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The document issued by the United States Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York and dated Friday, the 9th of August, 2019.
I'm reading that the English way, but that's not how it's written, states that Epstein had already been found unresponsive and pronounced dead.
But prison records and official accounts show Epstein was not discovered unresponsive until the morning of the 10th of August 2019 when a corrections officer delivered breakfast and found him in his cell at the Metropolitan Corrections Center in Manhattan.
And thank you, Samson.
I was just about to go on to that.
The official US account from a US official is that it was just a typo, which I actually believe that one.
Yeah, I can believe that's a typo is and so it's difficult to really dispute that.
But then, of course, that depends on whether you trust the US government.
But it's one of the things that people are talking about, and it's one thing that people are pointing to.
But an entirely different thing people are pointing to is his gaming account.
And here's a post from the 6th of February talking about how he played Rocket League, his account, less than three days ago because people found out his name through the email leaks on online and they looked up his account.
It's the one where you've got the little cars where you play football.
I don't know what Rocket League is.
I don't.
Little cars and you play football.
Rocket League is not important.
It's the fact that his account is active.
And there are multiple different things that could be the case here.
It could be that he shares his account with some people that we don't know.
It's not impossible.
Although usually it's not the case that you share a gaming account because you can normally purchase stuff, although I'm not sure what this is.
This doesn't necessarily look like Steam to me, which I'm familiar with.
And so that could be the case that he shares his account.
Although you can purchase things with money and so it's not customary.
Hang on.
Share it.
Look at his logo.
He's got a country of origin flag.
Is that where he last logged on from, or is that something that you picked?
I think that's something you would add to your profile.
Right.
But what it is isn't an American flag, given that you lived in America.
What it could also be is that his account of the same name was taken down and someone saw the name and thought it would be funny.
And well, usually these things tell you when you signed up.
That is true.
So if it's a continuous account, it seems to be a continuous account.
Right.
To my, you know, here people were saying it was live right now.
And Epic Games confirmed that the Fortnite account claiming to be his is unrelated and an existing player changed their username.
But that is just for Fortnite.
That's a different game to Rocket League if you're not familiar.
And so they're suggesting.
I just feel like that, for me, that's very, very flimsy evidence that Jeffrey Epstein is still alive.
I know.
It could be any number of things.
It could be someone else.
It could be trolling.
It's just a screenshot, so it could be entirely fabricated.
It could be fabricated, yeah.
Although it was available for people to see online.
So if it was fabricated, then it would also have to be fabricated on the actual website.
Just doesn't mean that Jeffrey Epstein himself, who was born in Coney Island, that that man is playing Rocket League now.
This is doesn't mean that, does it?
I've got to say, your first link was your most convincing.
I'm going backwards now.
It's alright.
I'm going to loop back around again soon.
We're going to need good stuff soon.
And one other thing is that this account that he had was inactive during the time that we know he was in custody and arrested.
And only after he died did its activity pick up again.
Which now that one is better.
What's that?
What is this?
An account of gaming again.
Gaming again.
This is Fortnite.
I think that's a short time.
Yes, it is.
What's a man of his dream playing Fortnite?
Surely not.
You'd be surprised.
I've never played games, and I'm not that far away from 50.
Okay.
How old is he?
Like 60 something?
Well, I don't know.
I think Fortnite.
You are allowed to do fun things when you get old, but.
Yeah, I know.
Again, it just doesn't seem that likely.
Well, it just seems unlikely.
I feel like he should have stuck to this, to be honest.
We do know he played games because he talked about it as well.
I mean, he must run out of Mexican slave girls at some point.
I mean, not that I'm saying I think Jeffrey Epstein never played games.
I'm not saying that.
This is probably saying that he's into Fortnite.
This is his least inexcusable extracurricular activity, to be honest.
I feel like if he lent into this.
If he did more of that, that would be better.
Yeah.
He would have avoided a lot of trouble if he just stuck to Fortnite, to be honest.
Just play video games, everyone.
Otherwise, you become Jeffrey Epstein.
And after there was lots of backlash, the account or backlash, but lots of attention, the account went private, which if it was someone trolling, why would they do that?
Of course, they could limit it.
It's not next-level trolling.
It could be.
It could just be a high-level troll, which, you know, they've already taken Epstein's name.
It's possible.
And if so, you know, although it's a serious thing, I see the humour in it, I suppose.
But anyway, let's move on to something else, which is people spotting him and seeing him.
There's the nose thing again coming up.
Lots of people talk about that.
So another thing is quite a few years ago now, but after he allegedly died, someone threw a drone over his island and took this.
And people think that that is Jeffrey Epstein, but that could just be any old guy, to be honest.
It's not clear enough to be able to tell, really.
People were saying this was Epstein.
Maybe it is.
Although I would be surprised.
It's like someone goes into hiding and then goes to the place they're most associated with.
I feel like if you're running an international extortion racket, you probably would have a bit more sense than to go back to the place where people make it.
He would have been bundled onto a cargo jet or something and smuggled out.
Because even in a scenario where he's made good with the intelligence agencies, there are still scorned elites that he's extorted that would want to get back at him.
That guy could be the guy I mentioned earlier, the Slavic look-alike.
But the one that was on the gurney.
Yeah.
So this is taken after the fact.
Oh, God, how many look-alikes are there?
2020.
I mean, it's just a white guy from above, isn't it?
Yeah, with the double that was on that gurney wasn't even dead.
No, this would be now.
This would have to be another double.
They're going to kill him again.
That does look a bit like Jeffrey Epstein, but it could be anyone.
The thing I'm saying is, if you look a bit like Jeffrey Epstein, you know, get a decent insurance policy in place.
And people were looking at other photos as well.
This was the one that was really doing the rounds, which, you know, he's at least allegedly in disguise.
I don't know.
It looks less hooked than the one we saw before.
Why has he got two Mossad agents or whatever they are, right?
Two people with earpieces, like security.
I don't know.
But supposedly, this was taken in Israel.
It was taken in Israel, was it?
Apparently.
However, there is a version of the photo that is zoomed out, which has the Google Gemini logo in.
Is in higher quality as you can see, so um, and also has this up here, um, which I've been told by people who speak Hebrew that this is just gibberish and is not actually language, which with the Gemini, the fact that it's zoomed out, they're also you know, they've got basically the same legs and shoes, although that if they're agents, maybe that's not that unheard of.
So, it's an AI-generated, it seems like it, yeah.
Uh, and I think that were I, I never thought I'd say this sentence, but were I Jeffrey Epstein?
I don't think uh, if I faked my own death, I'd just be walking around Israel, um, a place where presumably everyone would recognize you.
Um, that's what the beard's for, you get hassled for too many autographs.
No, um, uh, I'm joking, of course.
Um, too many hi-fives, but no, I didn't mean that.
But the point being here that even if this is a real photo, which it doesn't appear to be, um, because this exists, although you could say, you know, they generated a zoomed-out version to discredit the original, but let's be honest, I don't think that it would be a wise thing if you fake your own death to just walk around a busy, you know, city street where people will recognize you.
I obviously can't read Hebrew, but if those signs are just gibberish, for me, that would be it.
It was definitely AI-generated thing.
But you can feed a smaller image into AI and then say, expand the frame around this and make it look like it's in Tel Aviv or something.
So all it tells us is you don't know because you could easily edit an existing image of it.
This is one of the problems with AI existing now: you could even have, you know, photo evidence of something that's real, and everyone wouldn't believe it anyway.
Although, in my opinion, I'm not convinced by this.
And there's another one here, which is even less convincing.
That's just a guy with a beard.
Anyone that looks vaguely like Epstein from a certain angle could be Epstein.
Yeah, there's probably some poor collateral here of just some guy with a beard who's old being photographed and it's being shared around.
There was that tweet that went around, it goes around every so often, but there's a guy sitting in a German restaurant who is the spitting image of Hitler.
And he did, I can't remember, did he do the tash or not?
If you're on Twitter a lot, you must have seen it.
I don't think I have, actually.
I would like to.
I find that sort of thing interesting.
Yeah, and it's just modern day.
He's just sat there and he just happens to look exactly like him.
I mean, it's not that unheard of.
There are enough people in the world that there are going to be people that look like you.
Well, it's in the 2020s and he looks like a 40-something Adolf Hitler.
Well, yes.
Okay.
He hasn't got a uniform on it.
He's just dressed normally.
But it's him.
Okay.
Yes.
He hasn't aged today in 80 years.
He's got younger, if anything.
Yeah, that's another government conspiracy for you.
We're not getting into that.
I'm joking.
And then the final thing I wanted to look at was just this final photo that was doing the rounds, which I don't really think.
Like, new image leaked of Jeffrey Epstein.
with ai yeah i i just you just can't no you just can't tell anymore Because AI has got rid of the stupid thing where it gives you eight fingers or whatever it is.
And it's good enough now that you just can't bloody tell.
Also, why would he go to the trouble of growing out a beard and what have you, and then wear the jacket that he's notorious for wearing, the one that Nick Fuentes has got in a merch store?
Like, why would that be done?
So the two convincing things is the Fortnite thing and the very first thing, the prison guard saying, oh, and the interview with the guy who worked at the prison who said they were doing Dodger stuff.
That's convincing.
The image stuff, you just can't trust anymore.
Yeah, and I think that I think there's enough there to make speculation reasonable.
Yes.
But as I said before, there's no real smoking gun.
There are some additional things that I need to mention for the sake of being comprehensive.
There is still some private security on his island.
People have been pointing to this.
Yeah, and this is a verifiable thing.
I've seen lots of videos of people going to his island and seeing the private security.
Enough to the point where I think, yeah, there's no way that people are making this up.
But then that could just be his estate keeping security there because understandably it's Epstein's island.
You probably want some security there to protect your assets.
It could be that the US government has hired some private security to keep an eye on it because it's outside of their jurisdiction.
I don't know.
Who inherits the island?
Well, that's an interesting thing because after he died, his estate transferred $12 million to Southern Country Bank, which was a secret bank account which no one knew about until he died, which is interesting.
His estate was still doing things after he died, like that.
I mean, that could have been a lot of money.
So, going back to your photo of him in 2020, that's why he went back to the island and when the drone caught him because he was retrieving the Swiss bank or the southern bank whatever details, or dongle thing transferred the money.
Then he's off to Tel Aviv or wherever.
But 12 million then, that's not enough to live off of.
Is it really for him his lifestyle?
I mean, I'll take 12 million.
By the way, did he have any kids officially?
I hope not.
I don't think so.
As far as I'm aware, I mean, presumably in a few years, there'll be an a small army of Vietnamese and Mexican half Mexican children coming forward to say yeah, the island's mine.
Yeah, I wouldn't want to be one of the people trying to squabble for that.
But I don't think the private security is necessarily like a definitive thing because also, the last place it would be sensible to go if he were alive, would be his own island that everyone knows about and you can find it on a map and you can travel there relatively easily.
If loads of like youtubers and what have you have gone to the island and actually got on to it, then I don't think it's going to be difficult, because I don't think these people are masters of espionage.
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So yeah, I don't think that that's um particularly um convincing.
Another thing that people point to is that he allegedly bought a dental chair shortly before he died, and people are saying well, why would you do that, unless you want some sort of reconstruction of your either your dental um Record or your face or what have you?
Why would you be buying that?
That doesn't make any sense.
But then, you know.
Can we verify that?
Can we verify any of this?
Really?
I mean, I agree with them that all the image stuff, because of AI generating images, can't really trust any of it.
Okay, the computer gaming stuff, like the screenshots of that, doesn't really mean anything to me.
It's not really.
It's termory, but it's not necessarily significant enough.
It's certainly no smoking.
The bit at the beginning with the, if that was verified, that it was from that actual guard, that's very, very interesting to me.
And the nose of the supposedly dead body, that's very, very interesting to me.
I mean, I don't know much about dead bodies, weird to say, but maybe when you die in a specific way, you know, your face becomes more taut and changes the nature of your nose.
It's possible.
I don't know.
I can buy absolutely do believe that he didn't kill himself.
But I do think that he's dead now, though.
I mean, unless, I don't know.
We live in sort of a post-truth world, don't we?
That's the old thing, the old cliché.
That's the thing.
It is difficult to know exactly what's real and what isn't.
It's part of the reason I've talked about this is just approaching these questions with a critical mind and trying to figure out what is most likely.
And of course, I sort of agree with you, Bo, in the sense of it does seem strange that he would take his own life because, as we know, rich people prison is not the same as poor people prison.
And if you've seen good fellas, I imagine he'd sort of get that treatment of, you know, he gets to live the high life.
You know, Ghislaine Maxwell seems to be having a pretty cushy time of it.
I know there's footage of her in her cell, but she gets visitations and all sorts of privileges that you don't, you wouldn't really think she would deserve.
If we have any funeral directors in the comments, can you let us know if when people die, their nose and ears start to change slightly?
I mean, I know your nose continues to nose and ears continue to grow as the older you get.
But I don't know whether after you die, it changes its shape.
Yeah, but it wouldn't go like that.
Why would you?
I don't know.
It wouldn't.
Why would it?
I don't know.
But anyway, I've done my best to present all of this as even-handedly as I can.
Obviously, make up your own mind.
I'm not necessarily saying it is this or it is that.
I just found it interesting that people were talking about it, and I wanted to present it in as fair a way as possible because the mainstream media would not do that.
And it's some food for thought, and that is all.
Excellent.
Let's see what people say.
Connor Smug Mug says, Tyler Oliviera, the India Festival guy, went to Epstein's Island.
Security chased him off, and he was supposedly followed since.
I did actually see that video.
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And yeah, the private security did just look like paid private security.
Don't know whether he's actually followed since that sounds untrue.
But you never know.
Not just a string says maybe the nose was broken accidentally in his attempt to allegedly end himself.
Busted Brian says, Bo, the files have literally revealed Big E was very into games and even had an active hand in starting the predatory microtransactions and loot boxes craze of the gaming industry.
Oh god, I hate him now.
Okay.
Yeah.
The worst thing he's ever done.
That is.
No, I'm joking, of course.
If that's all true, fair enough.
Fair enough.
I stand correctly.
We do know that he liked his video games.
And also, you know, if I were to faint my death, I would miss my Steam account quite a lot.
Yes.
And all the progress I've made.
I'd be very hesitant to leave it behind.
Samson, can we have Maggie, please?
I'm assuming that's a video.
Margaret Thatcher is no longer the worst British Prime Minister I can think of.
That dishonour now goes to Keir Stamer, who's done everything he can to destroy Britain, both economically and culturally.
Whilst Thatcher did cause high unemployment, she did fix the economy and halted inflation.
Plus, she had an affection for the country she was leading, whilst Keir Starmer does not.
Keir Starmer, and I refuse to call him Sir Keir Starmer, has done everything he can to destroy the country of Britain.
I actually quite like Maggie.
I certainly wouldn't put her second.
She was far from the worst Prime Minister.
I don't even think every single Prime Minister since her has been worse for a start.
I put Boris as worse than Stalma because Boris did the Boris wave.
I put Blair as the worst and Boris as second.
Yeah, I like that.
Difficult to argue with, really, yeah.
I mean, when was the last good Prime Minister, really?
As I was thinking about this the other day.
Maybe Maggie.
You reckon?
There are some pretty big.
I think she did.
I hated him at the time, but looking back, he was bland enough that David Cameron.
David Cameron.
I'm just saying he was awful, awful at the time.
But when you compare him to everybody else, suddenly he starts looking good.
That's what I'm saying.
I see what you mean.
The robot thing.
So I'd have to go back to Pitt the Elder.
Fair enough.
Or as my all-time faves.
I feel like I'd have to go back to the 19th century at least.
Yeah, the Iron Duke.
The more that is revealed about our postmodern age, whether Epstein, abortion, or other atrocities dressed up as civil rights, the more it appears that reality is what fiction dismisses as too far-fetched.
A lot has happened in the first month of 2026, so I wonder if we'll get a legit alien invasion by the end of the year.
That's the only square I need for a bingo.
Very good point.
I'm not quite sure about the Christmas jumper at this time of year, but I suppose maybe you're getting prepared for next year.
I do still have some rumble rants here that I need to read once we've done the video comments.
Okay.
Let's do this.
I've been seeing a lot of people saying that we can't just tar and people saying that you can't just tar entire communities with the same brush over the grooming gangs.
And this is technically true.
I mean, not everyone took part, but the left already has a term for this.
It's called being a beneficiary.
So the idea is that just because not every member of the community took part does not mean they didn't all benefit from the actions of these curious institutions.
Basically, you know, suppressing the ability of the white population's ability to form families and essentially traumatizing them out of abilities to get into higher education and whatnot, which means the Pakistanis can soak up all of the economic opportunities those people never had.
I don't even think it's painting everyone with the same brush when it comes to the so-called grooming gangs, because even the women who didn't take part were complicit and still shared the same cultural attitudes that made it possible for the men to do it in the first place.
And the notion that you'd systematically groom underage children and then your partners are not only fine with it but cover for you and agree with your motivation to do it is so outside of the scope of normal thinking in British society as to be completely antithetical to how we would approach it.
Like, if there is a paedophile who is British, what normally happens is people vandalise their house and write pedo and nonce on it, and they're never ever again accepted by the community, even by their own family members, even by their own, you know, wife and children.
Whereas these days don't just make them US ambassador, and, you know, the standards have changed.
Allegedly.
Yeah.
Got some comments.
Do you want to read some of your comments or should I?
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Sophie Liv says, well, considering Starmer already was a blood-sucking undead zombie warlock, of course, he won't just die.
It's a bit more tricky killing the undead.
That's what I was saying.
You need headshots with these things to bring them down.
Paul Brown says, did Blair get rid of the death penalty for treason or was it Mandelson behind it?
Yeah, that's a fair point.
We say Blair got rid of it, but it could have been Mandelson who was pushing for it.
It was Mandy's initiative all along.
Yeah.
And Blair just happened to be in office when that got signed off.
So that is a fair point.
Justin B says, I don't think they will actually force Starmer out until the elections in Manchester.
They can blame any bad result on him.
Yeah, that's the problem.
If you come in as Labour leader this side of the by-election, you're going to have to own it.
Whereas if you do it the day after, you don't.
But I suppose the same logic could apply to the May elections.
But you might as well let...
I mean, it's only a couple of weeks now for Manchester.
You might as well let him eat that and then come in.
Lamy or Millibandry, whoever it was.
For my segment, Kevin Fox says, no, work from home should be only compulsory for snivel serpents.
I like that.
They're clever.
For everyone else, it should be a choice made by the workforce and employers.
Does anyone side with Farage?
I would be very surprised.
I didn't see anyone defend him.
It was just unequivocal.
Even scrolling.
I read your comments in the document that you're looking at now.
Okay.
All right.
But if anyone saw the comments streaming past, I don't know if anybody defended that.
Yeah, no, across the board, everybody is not a fan of that one.
Some of your comments?
Sure.
I'll quickly read the rumble ones that we've received so I don't leave anyone out.
Here is.
Oh, Blimey, there's quite a few.
They're all low, though.
That's okay.
I'll read a couple.
If Epstein's still alive, he'll be at Obama's Martha Vineyard compound with Lord Luke and the Lindbergh baby and Madeline McCann.
Blimey.
That's an awesome thing.
And Elvis, obviously.
He says, you're a bunch of crackpot conspiracy theorists.
Lots of inmates fashion straight razors out of toilet paper, body odour and spit and then cut their own throats with it repeatedly.
I don't think it's that hard to come across a razor blade in a prison.
Enough prison shankings and things go on, don't they, that it does happen.
Epstein was switched out and wanted to celebrate his freedom with some fentanyl overdosed.
I don't know about that.
Working in an office is working with equipment and the data the company owns, which require multiple people with different skills, but anxiety over what socks to wear shouldn't be used to not work.
Yeah, people do abuse it, to be fair.
There's the sort of like, oh, I've got bad mental health.
I can't come in.
To which I would say, well, you know, I want to employ someone with good mental health.
Can you not do that?
Unless, of course, someone's had like a bereavement or something, in which case you're going to be able to do that.
Stop hiring people for jobs that they can DOS off on.
If you're hiring correctly for jobs that actually need doing, it will be immediately obvious.
So why are you hiring people that you don't need?
Yeah, it seems silly as well.
The Office Drone Pipeline spawns hordes of default leftists.
They're subject to hundreds of little micro-leftisms and immersed in a liberal corporate environment for most hours of the day.
Which is very true, which is why I always hated it personally.
And I'll just read two comments here from my segment.
Fame Squatty of Swindon says, what's a man of his age doing playing Fortnite?
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The question answers itself if you frame it better, Bo.
Ask instead, what's a man of Epstein's reputation doing playing a game famous for being popular with preteens and young teenagers?
Yeah, that's true.
There's also evidence that he got banned from Xbox Live in 2013, which back in the day, I got suspended for throwing abuse at people in Call of Duty lobbies, but never banned.
You've got to be pretty bad to get banned.
Annie Moss says, Dan, your arguments on Epstein cannot be refuted.
Who knows what happened after?
But the body which left jail was not him.
I mean, there's lots of cause for speculation here.