The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1314

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	Hello and welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters episode 1314 for Wednesday the 10th of December 2025.
	I'm your host Luca joined today by Harry as always and special guest friend of the show Elizabeth Hevren.
	Thank you for joining us.
	For having me.
	That's alright, you've done a few epochs haven't you in the past with Bo on some stuff on the Roman Republic and Geoffrey of Monmouth.
	So yeah it'd be good to have you on the podcast because today ladies and gentlemen we're going to be talking all about how Piers Morgan just seems to be unbelievably cooked.
	There's no other way to put it really is there?
	Possibly an actual cook old speculation on my part.
	Okay so it'll be a very speculative segment from Harry.
	I'm then going to lead us through a discussion about Australia's new ban on social media for under 16s and then we're going to talk about how the picts are also being erased and it turns out that they too are African.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	The diversity washing of British history.
	Yeah, okay, splendid.
	All right, so Harry, over to you.
	All right then, so everybody hates Piers Morgan and seemingly that includes his darling beloved wife.
	And we've been doing some examinations, we've been doing some analysis, exploring into his relationship with his wife, and found that there appears to be quite a bit amiss within what may seem like a very rosy relationship from the outside.
	At least if we take her social media posts, numerous columns, interviews and other such things as indicative excuse me, sorry, as indicative of their relationship.
	Now you might be wondering what started all of this.
	Well, something very simple started this, which was the legend, already legendary watershed moment that was Nick Fuentes' interview with Piers Morgan, which I have not watched in full.
	I have watched many clips, which are all hilarious, and I have watched the first 30 minutes of it, which are also all every single minute of it is completely hilarious.
	It's a laugh a minute riot, guys.
	You don't even need to agree with anything that Nick is doing or saying to be able to get a lot of enjoyment out of it because it really is a clash of generations that we witness before us.
	Piers Morgan representing the perhaps boomer mindset.
	He is an old Gen X, but he's still very much rooted in that post-war morality versus a Zoomer like Fuentes, who is completely over the post-war morality that has been put on us for so many decades.
	And seeing the two meet is hilarious because Nick isn't over the post-war morality.
	He is also very confident in saying so, and unlike many, does not shy away from the controversy that comes from that and doesn't shy away from the questions.
	But despite his very good handling of the interview, Piers Morgan is nothing if not a world-class piece of shit.
	He is the scummiest of tabloid Journalists.
	Just as a reminder for everybody, years ago now, he was found guilty in a court of law, an English court of law, of being aware of journalists underneath him at the Daily Mirror, which he was formerly the editor of at the time, of phone hacking.
	And this included hacking the phone of a dead person to try to find personal information and any kind of leaks that could be used for tabloid purposes.
	Omid Shcobe, co-author of Finding Freedom, an unofficial 2020 biography of Harry and Megan, Prince Harry and Megan, you don't have to like them to understand that this does not reflect well on Piers Morgan, gave evidence that Morgan was reassured over a 2002 story about singer Kylie Minogue and her then partner James Gooding after being told it had come from a voicemail interception.
	The judge referred to evidence as well given by David Seymour, group political editor of the Daily Mirror from 1993 to 2007, that Morgan had played a voicemail in the newsroom of Paul McCartney singing a song by the Beatles to his then wife in 2001.
	There was a lot of other evidence presented as well, but he was found guilty in a court of law, no matter how much he may deny it.
	And we've just got to remember that that is the kind of character of person that we are dealing with, which is why it is unsurprising when during what should be an interview on one-to-one with Nick Fuentes, which should just be if you want to interrogate Nick and his beliefs, that's absolutely fine.
	That's what he came there for, where Piers decides to bring Nick's father into the into it less than 15 minutes into the interview and then also names him.
	So let's watch this clip, which is where all of this originates.
	Say, is everyone's a product of their environment?
	And I was reading some stuff about you in the last few days.
	There was an episode of your podcast where you talked about your father, Bill Fuentes, and how he wouldn't take the family, including you, to certain restaurants because he believed they were associated with African Americans.
	We would be deciding where to go to eat, you said.
	What are we going to do for dinner tonight?
	It was a running joke.
	Me and my sister would say Applebee's, and my dad would say we would never eat at Applebee's.
	Not in a million years should you be caught dead, Fuentes said about Applebee's.
	Go to a different restaurant, a local restaurant.
	No Applebee's, no red lobster.
	That is commonly known as black fare.
	And you also shared another story about your family and restaurants.
	Said, before me and my sister were born, my family had a saying about Olive Garden that contains the N-word that we're not allowed to say.
	So my question, based on that anecdote that you say on your own podcast, is: do you think you grew up in a racist environment?
	That your father was inherently racist?
	And that that thought process moved to you?
	Well, I would say it's a new low.
	I've been attacked for being a racist many times, but to attack my father, to attack my parents based on anecdotes, I would say that's your hang on.
	It's your running dope.
	Yeah, but he's not here to defend himself.
	You are.
	My parents are.
	You told the story.
	And I will.
	I'm not trying to ambush you.
	No, it's not an ambush.
	I'm not ambushing you.
	I'm literally reading an anecdote that you revealed on your podcast.
	It's you that's put it in the public domain.
	I know.
	I'm simply asking you whether my assessment of that, which is that your father didn't want to take you to certain restaurants because of what you referred to as they were commonly known as black fare, whether that attitude to African Americans in that instance permeated to you.
	It's a reasonable question.
	Yeah, no, like I said, I think everybody knows what that is, but I'll address it.
	I'll engage with it and I'll defend my father from the charge of racism.
	True.
	No, my parents are not racist and they've never been racist.
	I'll tell you about my parents.
	They used to have a school in Chicago, in the South Loop, where they instructed people on how to shoot firearms.
	It was a security school, and most of the clients were black.
	And I believe actually one of their clients was Larry Hoover's son at one point, sort of a funny story.
	And so most of their clients would come in from the South Side of Chicago.
	My grandmother, she grew up in the projects in the city.
	And so my family being in Chicago, being ethnics, being Italian, Irish, Mexican in the West Side on Taylor Street, all over the city.
	My family for many generations have lived near and around black people.
	And look, my views about black people and their views about black people are shaped with experiences with black people.
	And what they will tell you, what my parents would say if they were here, is that for many, many years, the older generations of black people were very respectful, very humble, very decent.
	In fact, my grandma used to have an anecdote.
	She grew up in a lot of dysfunction.
	Her mother was mentally ill, and they would be having dinner in the projects, and there'd be so much chaos and dysfunction and disagreement and fighting.
	And she would look across the way out the window at a black family in the other apartment, and they'd be holding hands around the table saying, Grace.
	And this is sort of the culture that used to prevail.
	But now what you have in the city is that there's no accountability for the black people.
	And now Chicago has become a complete dump because these teenagers go out and they take over the city.
	They call them teen takeovers.
	That's the euphemism for it.
	They're teenagers, but they all come from the same neighborhood.
	They drive up there and they mug people and attack people and they destroy cars and destroy shops.
	We had the Festival of Lights a couple of weeks ago.
	It's supposed to be a family event.
	And they light up the trees and they, you know, there's a big parade.
	I was in the parade one year and you had a bunch of black people there shooting each other.
	Seven people shot.
	A 14-year-old killed in the Magnificent Mile.
	And I know there's a lot of black people that feel the same way about this.
	They say, we've lost control of the city and we're looking for accountability.
	We have a lot of black people that are always outraged about racism, outraged about attitudes from white people, but they're never ashamed of some of these behaviors, never ashamed of some of the things that go on.
	And that's why.
	I just thought I'd let a bit of that play extra just so that you could see Nick's own response to that, because it was really a very underhanded blow to try and bring his own father into it.
	His father, who I don't believe had ever been named on the public record as well before.
	So putting his full name out into the public square was not only very sleazy, but could have very dangerous real-life repercussions for Nick's father if people watch this and decide that they want to try to get to the source of Nick Fuentes, given that he's trying to suggest through that that, oh, this is an environment of racism, which has bred Nick Fuentes, who is now the greatest threat to democracy.
	We just had Charlie Kirk get shot just three months ago, right?
	Yeah.
	And now that you're putting private citizens' names out into the public square off of the basis of random anecdotes that Nick was telling on his own show, you are an utter scumbag, Piers Morgan.
	You are the lowest of the low to try and do this for the sake of a gotcha moment.
	Nick said that, oh, you know, this isn't an ambush.
	I think he was being very kind to you by saying that in the moment, because it very clearly was an ambush to try and throw him off for the rest of the interview.
	And I've got to commend him on how well he was able to compose himself for the rest of the discussion that they had to the point where he was really like that was Piers' only moment of getting the upper hand, even for a brief second through the rest of the interview, because the rest of it really did come off as quite a domineering performance from Nick.
	Not to glaze him too much or anything.
	Of course, Piers seems to think that he won this whole exchange with possibly the most pure, unfiltered cringe I've ever seen in my life.
	Because obviously, everyone was calling him a boomer.
	Boomer Piers, Boomer Morgan.
	He responds: Memo to all Groypers.
	When you call me a boomer, I take it as a massive compliment.
	I literally use the word boom constantly on here to celebrate everything from Arsenal goals to England wickets and Piers uncensored ratings.
	I'm a very proud boomer, accompanied by, of course, this gif of Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man saying boom.
	Tony Stark, Piers Morgan, same energy.
	He has to be wage baiting.
	There's no way.
	I think his entire life is rage baiting, but I also think that he just, I think this is him.
	I think this is who he is.
	He is like, this is him in all sincerity.
	And if this was me, in all sincerity, I would hope that I don't wake up tomorrow morning.
	Personally, if I knew that I had to live a day as Piers Morgan, I would rather take the eternal slumber.
	Personally, that's just my opinion.
	That's just my opinion.
	But obviously, what we're focusing on is the personal attacks, the bringing the family into what should have been a discussion about Nick, about his beliefs, trying to throw him off just for the sake of a gotcha moment, which has had some pretty negative repercussions for Piers because Nick, quite rightly, was furious about this.
	He caught me off guard.
	That was so shitty what he did with my father because he knows what he's doing.
	He says my dad, he doxed my dad too.
	He says my father's name and then says, oh, your dad's racist and this is his name.
	That was low.
	And everyone knows what he was doing there.
	Everybody knows.
	And now you put a target on my dad.
	I hope you know that.
	So I hope you're happy with yourself.
	And that is out of line, actually.
	Family should be off limits.
	I'm in the arena.
	You want to call me a racist?
	I'm the one doing the show.
	My father's not a public figure.
	He's not political.
	So that's the only part that did bother me because that is bullshit.
	And I won't get mad.
	You can attack me all you want.
	I don't care.
	But, you know, my father, leave him out of it.
	He's a civilian.
	And that was low.
	I mean, you should know better than that.
	You're on television.
	You've got a million plus followers on Twitter.
	You're a major celebrity.
	You're naming a random private person.
	And he knows that he's inciting political attacks on my dad and my family and my parents' fucking livelihood.
	My parents have cancer.
	They're fucking sick.
	Yeah, and as a result of all of that, he's now said that, you know, you want to come after my father and his livelihood.
	Your whole family is fair game now.
	And in a game of tit for tat, sadly, that is how it's going to work, Piers.
	You are the one who felt low enough to actually take these tactics in the first place.
	So it's only fair if people come after you as well.
	Of course, I have already seen some people supposedly on Nick's side who have been disavowed going after his youngest daughter, which I don't think it's worth it to stoop that low.
	But the thing, and I also think the comments themselves were disgusting, but people fixated on one particular part of this interview and thought there has to be a reason that Piers holds these views.
	Okay.
	But it's fine.
	Where were we?
	We're talking about Trump.
	We got a lot of on Trump.
	I think women should have the same rights as you and I. You don't.
	That's fine.
	Put on the pink hat, bro.
	Put on the pink hat.
	We're waiting for you.
	What's the pink hat for?
	For the march, for the women's march.
	Are we going to see you at the women's march protesting for women's rights and all that?
	I think women should have equal rights to men.
	Period.
	You carry tampons in case your female friends get a period or something.
	Like, it's crazy.
	I don't know if it's a lot of people.
	I'd have no problem giving a female friend a tampon, would you?
	So you've ever seen it.
	I don't know.
	I don't think that's a big tampon, have you?
	Gross.
	Absolutely not.
	Great away.
	You think tampons are gross?
	Yeah, they're filled with period blood.
	Yeah, it's kind of gross.
	Wow.
	Are you into that?
	You like that?
	I don't think you've ever seen it, have you?
	I've seen them.
	I've seen it.
	I've seen that before.
	You've been that close to a woman?
	Really?
	No, I've seen them.
	Look, I've been used to live with women.
	I've seen them around the world.
	I bet you've seen videos, haven't you?
	What?
	What are we doing here, Piers?
	I'm not sure.
	You really hate that.
	I'm not sure.
	You're more impressed that I'm a misogynist than you are about anything.
	It's not really.
	I'm actually more exercised about your blatant self-admitted racism than I'm.
	I mean, honestly, that's the complete reasonable response here.
	Like, what the hell is that?
	How did we get here, Piers?
	What are we talking about?
	Why is Piers' main, like, he wants to drill down and interrogate?
	Do you watch the female members of your family put the tampons in?
	Do you carry tampons around?
	Tampons are amazing.
	They're delightful.
	They're incredible.
	Oh, that's good.
	Says Piers Morgan.
	Right.
	Like, he's trying to make it out like it's just cool and normal.
	Like, if he actually does, like, obviously, all he was doing there was reacting to Nick's bait.
	Nick baited him the whole way through there.
	But, like, if you do have a male friend who's like overtly kind about like tampons and period business, and they like actually want to carry tampons just in case one of their female friends just happens to go on their period then and there, that guy's a creep.
	William, it reminds me of like the transgender when they carry tampons.
	And I'm starting to think in the movie Home Alone that Piers Morgan was actually the woman.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh, the pigeon lady.
	So true.
	Never seen them in the same place together.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	Like, what kind of creep does that?
	A guy who does that is the only kind of guy who's going to try.
	He's just doing it to get you to like him.
	And so he can get close to you so that then he can get close to you, right?
	Or he's just virtue signaling.
	And that's all that this was.
	But people went, like, this is a really weird thing to virtue signal about.
	Pretending that periods and tampons aren't gross.
	Why would he think this?
	Why would he say this so proudly?
	And then people, well, you know, it's fair game.
	Let's look into his, let's look into his family life.
	Let's see what might be motivating all of this.
	And what do we find?
	Well, we find that he has a wife, Celia Walden, wife without his surname.
	Weird.
	And she does this thing where she just goes on and on in every interview, every social media post, every column that she writes about how awful he is to be around, how much she hates him, how much she prefers the company of other men, how much she wishes.
	Literally any other man.
	Yeah, literally gay men as well.
	Literally, how much she wants younger men to come and sweep her off of her feet.
	Like, here's some examples.
	Piers Morgan wife, I wear the trousers.
	Celia Walden on Good Morning Britain star.
	Piers Morgan's life stories is back.
	When it comes to Piers' own personal life, his wife Celia says that she wears the trousers.
	Piers' wife, Celia Walden, has often spoken about life with the ITV Good Morning Britain star, Piers, before he got kicked off it, confessing she believes she wears the trousers.
	She responded to the question of whether she wore the trousers in their relationship, saying, Oh, yes, I think so.
	I think women are always quietly in charge.
	I just think it's best to let the men think that they are.
	No, Piers doesn't want to think that he's in charge.
	He desperately wants you to know that you're in charge because he's such a good husband.
	She took a six-week sabbatical, apparently, from their marriage.
	And I know that this is all like tabloid dredging up shit, but this has been Piers' entire career.
	He is the lowest of the low scumbag.
	He tried to do these tactics on somebody who went into an interview with him on the basis of good faith.
	Knowing, of course, that Piers was going to be the usual POS that he is, but still not expecting that he would dox his father and try to frame him as the founding reason why Nick is such a diabolical, feral Nazi.
	Look, it's such a sinister thing to do because, as you say, he's using Nick's father to somehow use an example of relationships in Nick's life that made the monster.
	Productive their environment.
	So I think it's only fair to examine Piers' own environment.
	Well, exactly so.
	And why it is.
	Why it is that he, yeah, why, what's the explanation?
	Why are you like this, Piers?
	Why are you just such a good man?
	Why do you just care so much about women's rights?
	Clearly, it's for the sake of your wife who hates you.
	And who can blame her?
	Piers admitted that Celia has forgotten their anniversary every single year since they tied the knot in 2010.
	Speaking on ITV's Lorraine, he revealed she's forgotten it for nine consecutive years.
	It's just like I'm not in her airspace at all.
	That's the thing that the woman should be worrying about.
	Like, that's not the thing that you should be worried about.
	It should be the man forgetting the anniversary.
	Have you not watched sitcoms from the 60s, Piers?
	Good God.
	And here's a photo of him being posted all over social media at the time of him vacuuming the place after he got fired from Good Morning Britain.
	And, you know, it's like, it's one of these things, right?
	Where one or two of these things by themselves, because I've got more examples.
	One or two of these things by themselves.
	Oh, it's just a little bit of a playful thing.
	They're both public figures.
	Let's have some fun in the public eye.
	It's literally any time she mentions him.
	Yeah.
	The entire discussion that she has about him in the public sphere is just, I hate you, you're old, you're gross, you don't fulfill me.
	You need to be my bitch.
	Like, once or twice, I'd be like, good one, honey.
	That's quite good.
	When it's every time you speak about me in public, I go, listen, have we got a problem here?
	But Piers Morgan, apparently, he absolutely loves the humiliation that he...
	I think he's into it.
	He loves the humiliation that she foists on him every single day.
	I mean, she's outright, like, this is the stuff that she posts on her Instagram.
	Where here's me with Lenny Kravitz desperately wanting to have sex with him.
	Here's me with some random gay man, yes, but I just ever so prefer putting my hands all over him than I do you, Piers.
	Even though he's gay, I still prefer it.
	Here's me taking a cheeky undercarriage shot of another man's ass as he washes my car.
	Good job, it's not you, Piers, or I might vomit.
	Here's me posting like I'm a literal prostitute next to the pool.
	Please, anybody other than my husband, come and have sex with me.
	Like, again, once or twice, it's just a little joke.
	I died to report a murder.
	Yeah, this feels, this is just like over and over and over again.
	Here we go.
	Again, here's what she says about him in interviews.
	Being married to him is very one very long eye roll.
	What most people don't realize is that he's usually very quiet home because he's exhausted himself in whatever interview he's doing.
	This is after his immediate exit from Good Morning Britain.
	This is the only reason I'm sad about him leaving Good Morning Britain.
	So the idea that she has to talk to him now.
	Well, that and the fact that I wake up and there he is staring back at me morning after morning.
	You must have done something horrible in a past life to deserve that, Celia, because that does sound like a personal kind of hell.
	She then explains how they met one another, and it really does just sound like he wore her down with enough persistence and she just got taken in by the glamour of the whole thing.
	She said, I had a friend who had a crush on Piers and I told her she was mad, but we arranged to meet for an interview.
	I assume he was interviewing her.
	And Piers managed to string it out over the course of about four different meetings.
	He kept saying, yeah, there are a few things I didn't quite get.
	And each of these meetings ended up in us having more and more alcohol.
	So he just kept tried to get you drunk enough to like him until eventually he declared his real motivations and said, the thing is, you tick every single one of my boxes.
	And I said, that's weird because you don't tick any of mine.
	It's the fact she's gone to the press about this.
	Well, she's a columnist.
	She's a columnist.
	This is like her main subject that she talks about is how much she hates her husband.
	Wow.
	Like, look at this.
	Piers Morgan reveals he met his wife Celia Walden after he bombed while giving a speech and she laughed at his discomfort.
	Great start.
	Great start.
	Many a magical moment after that, I'm sure.
	And there's just a collection.
	Like, this is her most recent Instagram post.
	This guy is gay, but again, like, most of the pictures that she posts are not of Piers.
	Here's her saying, oh, I'm a loose woman.
	Here's me about to get railroaded by a bunch of Navy SEALs.
	Here's me thirsting over a much younger man.
	Please, anybody sleep with me.
	Here's me cucking my husband.
	Every post that has to do with Piers himself is her humiliating him, making him read books, saying things like, oh, he needs to read this or I'll divorce him.
	Here's me posing topless in a newspaper spread.
	A divorce would be less embarrassing.
	At this point.
	At this point.
	Tremendously less embarrassing.
	I think she.
	I mean, it seems like for the past however long they've been married, she's just been slowly inch by inch digging a six-foot hole to bury him in.
	Here she is, like, here's my husband.
	He's an absolute arse.
	Here I am calling him a massive blowhard.
	He's literally the devil.
	I agree with you on that one.
	Here I am with Rob Watts' face, handsome Hollywood actor.
	God, I wish I was married to him instead.
	Here I am with random black man.
	I'll take literally anything over Piers.
	Here I am with another handsome actor.
	Please, anybody take me.
	Here he is in the literal sewage where he belongs.
	Like, Jesus Christ, here he is standing in front of this sign.
	The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it.
	It.
	Resist it and your soul grows sick.
	This is her, like, stand in front of this sign to let everybody know that I'm cooking you, Piers.
	Giving smiling interviews about why they took the marriage sabbatical.
	Her saying that he's a feminist on public television.
	Her laying in bed with another gay man, yes, but still she's very eager to lay in bed with other men by the looks of it, by her social media.
	Her saying that she was on Ashley Madison for research purposes.
	It was for journalistic research purposes.
	And then saying, why we all need a best boyfriend?
	Any men's attention other than my husband.
	That's what I'm after, says Piers Morgan's wife.
	So if we're to look into the environment of Piers Morgan and try and examine why he would say such ridiculous things like tampons and periods aren't gross, why he is such a cuck for all of the women around him.
	I think it's because, frankly, I can only assume speculation that he gets off on this.
	That this is something that he likes.
	Because frankly, whether or not it started off as a joke, this is just beat down after beatdown for the entire rest of his life over their marriage.
	I wouldn't put up with this.
	No man with a backbone would put up with this, even if it was just a joke.
	After a certain point, it's going to come across like what it is.
	Her publicly insulting you every single day whenever you're brought up.
	So, Piers, maybe you should worry less about Nick and his views and his families, and maybe you should sort your own household out first, mate.
	He definitely gets off on it.
	If you look at his career and the fact he debates like different white-wingers, he's constantly being humiliated by them.
	I mean, there's like famous clip with Ben Shapiro years and years ago where he's debating Ben Shapiro when he's at the start of his career and he pulls out like a constitution, the American Constitution.
	And it's like, you should read this.
	You know, you should catch up on American history because they're debating gun control.
	So he kind of reminds me of like the class clown who gets off when people bullying him.
	Yeah, but also he's one of those people that actually, it doesn't matter because he knows obviously this interview with Nick is going to get huge numbers of views, as of many of his interviews recently.
	And actually, it doesn't matter how humiliated he is by every single guest that he brings on as they just steamroll all of his arguments.
	So long as he gets the views, so long as he gets the bank account numbers up, so long as he gets his curry, he's happy.
	Yeah, and let's go on to the Rumble Rants.
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	Future rules and wanted to make sure the back's still happy and warm.
	I assume the back room guys.
	And sharing enough with the vent devil.
	Honestly, you might as well have written that in Latin.
	That is some good esoteric knowledge.
	Thank you.
	But thank you very much for the $200 anyway, Blood for the Blood God.
	That's a very kind donation.
	Big numbers today.
	Thank you very much.
	Chris R, 1288.
	I feel like you were close.
	I told you yesterday, white guilt equals the rise of cook pornography.
	Might have to do a paper on this.
	I will warn you that if you look into the kinds of people producing and pornography and their reasons for doing so, you will get yourself in trouble and only be able to publish those papers in certain publications.
	Marks Lives.
	Piers' fascination with menstrual blood during the NF interview really freaked me out.
	Is this the British thing, sort of like India's cultural fascination with poop, or just a Piers thing?
	Just a Piers thing.
	It's a Piers thing.
	It's a Piers thing.
	Cranky Texan, Nick made a mistake defending the racism charge.
	Even acknowledging it gives it power in current reality.
	He should have just feigned outrage that Piers dare talk about his parents at all.
	That might have been one way of approaching it, but I can understand if I'd been in Nick's situation, coming across like it rattled him may have not been the best tactic for the rest of the interview.
	So maintaining his composure, calling it out for what it was, a dirty smear tactic, straight away, and then actually defending his parents and their honor because they weren't there to defend themselves, I think was a good tactic because it comes across classy.
	It comes across much classier.
	I can understand wanting to get angry about it, but that might have made Nick seem irrational.
	And Nick, when he's doing these interviews, does not want to come across irrational and he wants to explain himself well.
	That's a random name.
	Here's me trying to sleep with Lenny Kravitz.
	Stop, Harry.
	Don't do it.
	Ah, Walter White screaming.
	That's human full space episode.
	Yeah, I know that I'm just making clickbait.
	That's fine.
	That's fine.
	You can clip me all you want.
	Use whatever clips you want of me to make me say whatever I want because, frankly, I can't stop you anyway.
	So, you know, there's no point in screeching about it.
	All right.
	I'm dying now.
	No, it's okay.
	Are you going to stay with us for the second?
	I died of cringe internally doing that segment, so that's fine.
	You did so well.
	All right, then.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Luca.
	You're doing great too.
	I got you back.
	It's not started yet.
	I know, but you're doing great.
	Oh, thanks, man.
	Okay.
	So we're going to talk about the Australian government because they've basically just banned a whole slew of apps and social media platforms for under 16s.
	Many of them were able to have access to these apps at 13, and the new law has basically pushed that.
	So now anyone up to 16 cannot have access to Facebook, YouTube, TikTok, all these sorts of apps.
	We'll go into it.
	But I would like to start by talking about my childhood.
	Because you see, I feel quite grateful in many ways that I was born right at the end of 96.
	And I was probably the last generation of Western schoolchild to just really go to school.
	I thought there was more of a gap between our ages than that.
	I didn't realize that you were only a few months younger than me.
	Yes.
	Fair play.
	babyface you just yeah you just it's the babyface and your general sunny cheery demeanor i thought you were I thought you were younger than you are.
	Oh, wow.
	All right.
	Don't know how to do that information, but well, clearly you've not become as jaded and cynical as some.
	No, I just ignore them.
	That's good.
	That's good.
	But all this to say, you know, and it was a wonderful school experience, actually.
	Well, I have, you know, obviously younger people that I know who go to school now and the social media stuff does add a lot of stress to their lives because all of a sudden you're not just competing with the other girls at school or the other guys in terms of who's the most talented, who's the coolest, who's the one who's.
	But you're also looking at the array of people on social media across the world as well.
	And when you're very, very young, of course, you can have very low self-esteem.
	And so there are notable problems with social media in this modern age.
	And obviously, it sounds cliche, but life was simpler before it all came along.
	Yeah, you're part of the ultra-rare Zillennial generation.
	I am.
	Like me.
	It's a real word.
	It's just a zillennial.
	It is a real word.
	AA says the Zenniels are the greatest generation to ever live.
	He's wrong.
	It's the Zillennials.
	Those who were born around 95 through to 97 were the younger part of their childhoods.
	They were free from the internet and social media.
	And then around their mid-teens, the internet begins to become a much more important thing.
	Sounds like it was the same for you.
	Building tree houses.
	Building tree houses.
	Bows and arrows.
	We had a great time.
	Oh, fair play.
	My children.
	As a 2001 person.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I feel like it's the mid 2010s where a lot of people just started getting social media addictions.
	And then after that, it just worsened.
	Although I will say when I was like 11, 12, I started watching a lot of stuff on YouTube, primarily nostalgia critic.
	Oh, yeah.
	Angry video game nerd, nostalgia critic, some PewDiePie.
	Internet golden.
	Would it have been PewDiePie?
	No, it wouldn't have been PewDiePie.
	PewDiePie would have been when I was like maybe 15, 16 years old.
	But yeah, there was some golden age stuff right here.
	And so how was what was the thing that got all of this moving in the first place that led the Australian government to do this?
	Instagram reels.
	Well, if we talk about radicalizing Instagram reels.
	The Australian government proved with how draconian it got during lockdowns that they do not care about the mental well-being of children.
	This is absolutely true, yes, and we'll definitely...
	Yeah, sorry, I don't want to pre-empt you too much.
	That's all right.
	No, it's okay.
	But from this Guardian article, it says, in early 2024, the South Australian Premier's wife put down the book she had been reading.
	It was Jonathan Haidt's The Anxious Generation.
	And Peter Milanoskis later recounted, she said that she said to me, you better bloody well do something about this.
	And then we got to work.
	So his wife read the book, thought, well, we better do something about that.
	Hadn't we, dear?
	And from there, these pieces got moving.
	Now, obviously, there was a whole question of whether or not this was going to be implemented state by state.
	But they decided to have a general federal piece of legislation across the board so it affects all Australians equally and they can all share out on the media platforms.
	And if I just go to Jonathan Haidt here as well, you can see him being very, very happy that this has taken place.
	He praises the Premier of South Australia and the current Prime Minister as well, who took it national.
	He says, the key, as both men have emphasized, is that we all want kids to have fun, exciting childhoods, doing things with friends in the real world.
	That's a childhood we older people remember fondly.
	That's a childhood that Gen Z have seen only in movies and they long for.
	I urge Australian parents to make this transition.
	One that their kids will look back on fondly as the summer when their lives opened up.
	The summer when they were given more freedom and they began to have more unsupervised fun and adventure together.
	They began to have childhoods worth remembering.
	So thank you, Australia.
	I mean, personally, I think what might materially improve the lives of Australian children as they grow up is if you stop trying to replace them.
	Well, I think that would matter too.
	First and foremost, more than anything else.
	So again, I find it very hard to take these government policies seriously without a heavy dose of cynicism.
	And I actually really like some of Jonathan Haidt's work.
	I've not read The Anxious Generation.
	I'm sure that he wrote it with the best of intentions.
	But this is something I actually discussed about with Josh Neal in an interview about his book, Intolerant Interpretations, a few weeks ago, where he actually critiqued part of Jonathan Haidt's work that was produced in the Righteous Mind in a way that I hadn't seen before.
	It's not often that you see many critiques of Jonathan Haidt's work, especially that particular book.
	But one of the ways that Jonathan Haidt's work can be used is it can be co-opted by governments for the sake of this kind of very, very sweeping legislation.
	And they can use it for the sake of saying that they're trying to target political division, that they're trying to prevent anxiety and difficulty in raising children.
	And screen addiction, I do genuinely think that screen addiction is a big problem.
	I'm not saying that this sort of stuff doesn't cause huge problems for young people.
	It absolutely does, but it can be used for these modern multicultural governments for social engineering purposes.
	Absolutely.
	What this actually does for young people who now more than ever, through social media, have access to a wide range of dissident voices and they're able to get their news and understanding of the world from a wide variety of places outside of the mainstream from alternative media.
	It's closing those avenues off for them to make sure that the only idea of the world that these kids are going to get is going to be coming from the schools and from the mainstream and the government media.
	That's what this is actually doing.
	That's what this would actually be for, from what I can see.
	Well, all of the slides here on in are just going to vindicate your entire position.
	Thank you.
	So you always portray it as like a convenience, like with digital idea.
	Are we doing this so things will be more convenient?
	We're doing this because we generally care about your children when it's all about government control.
	Yeah.
	But what's more as well, it's quite pernicious because it simultaneously preys on a genuine concern, but does it for the wrong reason.
	And I'll just read, you can see here there was a petition in Australia signed by over 50,000 people.
	And one parent said, it quickly overtook all her, my daughter's spare time.
	She was messaging in bed, calling late, making calls till midnight.
	And this was when she was in primary school.
	And someone else said, it's horrifying and we need additional safeguards to protect our kids.
	Talk about raising the age.
	And there were other testimonies and parents speaking as well on this petition who were obviously talking about cyberbullying and online and self-harm and that being encouraged.
	I mean, cyberbullying has been going on for years.
	I remember getting the cyberbullying videotape played to us in school when I was growing up.
	Yeah, of course.
	Just like an average Xbox Live experience.
	But I'm confused because it's the parents that give their children the first time.
	This is exactly what I was about to say.
	Yes.
	Well, before we go straight into that, it's only the parents' responsibility, and they do hold a huge amount of the responsibility to responsibly limit screen time for their children and to put the restrictions that they want onto their children's phones because they do have the ability to do that.
	But one thing that I have always heard from parents when I've brought it up with them is that there is a huge amount of pressure from peers of the students that unless all of the parents get together and agree not to do this and to restrict all of the children's phone access,
	even just during school hours, for instance, then if you are the one kid on the playground, if you're the one kid in class who doesn't have a phone, who doesn't have an iPad, who doesn't have access to all of these social media, it does other you.
	Yes.
	And it isolates and separates you out.
	Now, how much you want to say that that should be taken into account with all of this and whether parents should just decide, well, I'm willing to make that decision for my kids anyway.
	That's one thing, but it does introduce some difficulty with this.
	Undoubtedly.
	And what's more as well, it also, you know, it comes back to that whole libertarian argument of, well, does the government really have, well, I mean, for example, if I was, you know, leading a government in the United Kingdom, I would have no moral scruples about just banning OnlyFans, for example.
	So I'm not in principle averse to government intervention on what children or even adults can just see online, right?
	I think there are certain moral standards of we just shouldn't allow a certain level of degeneracy.
	Well, there are platforms.
	There are degenerating vices that people can have far, far, far too much access to.
	And I mean, with something like OnlyFans, not only the proliferation of pornography in general across society is something wholly unheard of throughout all of history.
	But then the access for young girls coming straight out of their teens, having the option to immediately try and make easy money by whoring themselves out online.
	That is not an option that these girls should have easy access to because it does.
	This is something that some people get right about this.
	We've got to be factual.
	It does remove a lot of the negative consequences of actually going out on the street because it massively separates you from the people you're interacting with.
	So there's less danger involved.
	You're not going to get kidnapped by some guy if you're doing that.
	So it's even more encouragement for these girls who otherwise should be trying to get a job or trying to go into education or preferably settling down with boyfriends and husbands and starting a family.
	Absolutely.
	And so, as you can see, there is evidence of just Australian parents and people from the boomer generation.
	And unlike the previous segment, I don't in this case say that pejoratively, who obviously have genuine concerns about the world that their children are being brought up in.
	But of course, movements generally don't just win off the back of Australian parents being a little bit irked about something and worried about something.
	Generally, these sorts of things require elite backing.
	And that's where we get to Rupert Murdoch.
	News Corp Australia is launching a new national campaign aimed at protecting young Australians from the dangers of social media.
	The Let Them Be Kids campaign is calling on the federal government to increase the age children can access social media platforms to 16.
	Child advocates and health professionals are supporting the push.
	Psychologists believe excessive social media usage is worsening the youth mental health crisis.
	Suicide and self-harm rates in people aged under 19 have increased since children began using social media.
	Experts claim it's also responsible for an increase in eating disorders, loneliness, sleep deprivation, as well as a reduction in social skills.
	And so the large push, and there has been a tremendous amount of lobbying over this past year and a half by Rupert Murdoch and News Corp.
	As you can see, this has been brought out on Sky News Australia, which is of course his.
	So this is Rupert Murdoch trying to remonopolize the information economy.
	Yes.
	So you see what happened was back in 2021, there was a law passed in the Australian government called the News Media Bargaining Code.
	And basically, this law basically meant that Australian big tech platforms had to pay local newspapers and local news organisations to obviously have those stories on the platform and have the news on the platform.
	So essentially, this created a strange relationship where you were paying big tech were paying their rivals, the legacy media.
	It was government propping up.
	Yes.
	Of an old system that was becoming outdated and couldn't exist in the modern age.
	And so the government have intervened with this.
	And obviously, News Corp, being Australia's largest newspaper publisher, obviously decided that the perfect moment to strike back on all of this was when Meta won't renew its commercial deals with Australian news media.
	It was March of last year.
	Right.
	And so, and that perfectly coincides if you look at the date on this particular video.
	This basically came out in May of last year.
	So this all got moving very, very quickly.
	And it was very naked to see what the intentions was behind it.
	It's also worth speculating on as well that Rupert Murdoch through Foxcorp in the United States may well be taking some shares or having some investment in TikTok and obviously its acquisition from the Chinese, but that is the US government handed over to Oracle and Larry Ellison managed there.
	And that whole cabal of bond bond villains.
	It really does look like a bond villain, you're right.
	Yeah.
	And so we're, but we're at the point where actually, so, but Murdoch will only have investment in the US side of it.
	So if TikTok gets banned for under 16 year olds in Australia, that doesn't actually affect him in any way.
	It perfectly protects him whilst also dealing a counter blow to the new digital corporations.
	And so you can see here, this, and I just pulled this up because it was just such a remarkable headline, which is legal threat of social media given final doom scrolling in Australia.
	You get your final doom scroll if you're 15 before this new law comes in.
	It's all very mum and dad can keep doom scrolling all they want.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	But this really is.
	So what if you just lie?
	Like, what are the actual?
	No, no, no.
	I'm going to put a pin on that.
	Oh, okay.
	We're coming to it now.
	Because I remember YouTube asking me for age verification when it was like, oh, you've got to be 18 or older to watch PewDiePie play Amnesia, The Dark Descent.
	And I was like, oh, good job.
	I'm 34 years doing the four lions.
	That was a joke, YouTube.
	I would never, ever do anything like that.
	And so Facebook, Instagram, Threads, TikTok, Snapchat, Twitch, Kik, X, YouTube, and Reddit are among those to be banned.
	Well, Reddit is a good idea.
	Yes.
	Well, it's not all doom and gloom, you see.
	With fines of almost $50 million for failing to take action to remove under-16s from their platforms.
	So again, the power is on the media platforms to actually police their own platforms and basically search for under-16s.
	But the problem is, this is really going to struggle to work.
	Now, we'll just listen to the Prime Minister say what he has to say about all this.
	This is the day when Australian families are taking back power from these big tech companies.
	And they're asserting the right of kids to be kids and for parents to have greater peace of mind.
	Now, I will just say, to come back to your point, Harry, these two things are in contradiction.
	We want to bring back freedom and, you know, a sense of childhood for kids while simultaneously always advocating for policies that have only ever resulted in the material degradation of their towns and cities and their alienation within their own communities.
	And so it's like, yeah, okay, well, for the boomers, that would have been all great.
	Go out into the streets.
	I hope you don't come back until 11.
	You're perfectly safe out there.
	Go and have a good time.
	You couldn't do that these days.
	There's no way.
	Things have changed far too much.
	Perhaps the Australian government is trying to find a sneaky backdoor way of forcing the children into forming like youth ethnic gangs so that they can have like 13, 14, 15 year olds warring on the streets along racial divisions.
	That's what they want.
	Australian government provokes race war among 12-year-olds?
	Question mark.
	And to Come back to what you were saying about the ideological lines of it as well, of course.
	Other than, of course, Murdoch's business reasons for doing it.
	Wait a second, I can read that.
	For doing this, right?
	There is also, as you say, the ideological reasons, which is that most of the dissident politics, the sort of, you know, like newer truth of the Zoomer generation and where they're getting their news.
	I mean, let's not forget as well.
	One of the chief reasons that the United States government obviously decided to take TikTok off of China was because of all the pro-Palestinian stuff on there.
	And they saw that as a threat to geopolitical interests with Israel and the Middle East, right?
	This is all very clear to us.
	It's all on the public record.
	Well, they were very clear that that's what it was about.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	It wasn't about protecting children from getting TikTok brain rot.
	No.
	No, it's not about how long your child is spending on their phone.
	It's about what they're seeing, what they're looking at for those two hours on their phone, which is exactly why Blue Sky is exempt from this ban.
	Well, one thing you know, when I talk to Zoomers younger than me, who are to the white and I asked them, how did you get into politics?
	They always say to me, oh, I don't read or watch any YouTubers or read any books.
	I just watch Instagram reels.
	So it does have an effect.
	Tell you what, there's some.
	Schizo brain rot edits are radicalizing the youth.
	It is true.
	What they've done, and especially you can tell because they're allowing Blue Sky in Australia.
	The big problem is going to be that they're going to see some edit of Joel Davis, who's just been unfairly arrested and put in prison, or what's his name, Thomas Sewell, doing something, and then the kids are going to go, wow, that's really cool.
	I should get involved in right-wing politics.
	You're right, they are replacing us.
	I should get involved in this.
	This guy's making some good points.
	They are deathly afraid of that.
	And so this is their countermeasure.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Although, as you can see, again, it's not all doom and gloom.
	They will still have access to Lego Play.
	Discord needs to be off that list.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	It needs to be off that list.
	For the sake of consistency.
	Yeah, for the sake of consistency, you can't get radicalized on Twitter or Instagram reels, but you can get groomed into tuning out on Discord.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Seriously?
	It's just full of obvious ideological, hypocritical, you know, points in it.
	And so we have World Watches as one million social media accounts go dark.
	it's just armageddon in australia um and then we get to my strongest twitter soldiers have gone because they're all just like 14 year old australian boys No!
	Right.
	But then, exactly as we saw when the Online Safety Act came in, you know, here in the United Kingdom as well, all you see is an uptick in VPNs.
	All you see is, you know, and there are some truly funny stories.
	Dog photos, VPNs, fake IDs, how Australian teens are beating the social media ban.
	Day one, ladies and gentlemen, day one.
	Yeah, I was going to ask how they're actually enforcing it.
	Are they having to do some kind of facial recognition age thing?
	Well, what if you just, what if your parents are actually happy with you doom scrolling because you have the mental fortitude to be able to manage and deal with it?
	Because some kids are intelligent and mature enough to be able to handle it without just turning them into a asocial spur.
	And so your dad just sets you up an account under his email address and then just like does the facial thing for you.
	Do you have to do the facial recognition every single time?
	Or is it a one-time thing?
	Says 13-year-old Isabel told the BBC that it took her less than five minutes to bypass the ban.
	A Snapchat notification warned her she would be removed unless she could prove that she was over 16.
	But she said she used a photo of her mother to trick the adaptation checks.
	You can just have a photo of your mum.
	Oh my god.
	Some have found inventive ways to bypass the verification process.
	A user reportedly uploaded a photo of a golden retriever to gain access.
	Remember guys, AI is the future.
	It's not a bubble.
	Invest now.
	Experts also warn that teens can exploit other loopholes.
	I'm not giving advice.
	Such as VPNs, fake IDs.
	And it's said that even some of them would literally, they were able to trick the verification process, like at the age of 12 or 13, simply by putting fake eyelashes and a bit of makeup on.
	Right.
	12-year-olds confirmed smarter than the Australian government.
	What an industrious generation we have on our hands, ladies and gentlemen.
	And so obviously, but the obvious question to all of this is, okay, well, this is Australia for the foreseeable future.
	So, you know, how long until the rest of the West rolls all of this out as well?
	Now.
	I mean, Liz has already mentioned digital IDs within the UK.
	Yes, absolutely.
	So that's going to be the measures for doing it over here.
	Yes.
	And I can't help but feel like the digital IDs are going to be a bit more thorough because the Australian government, frankly, seem to have half-assed this one.
	They have really half-assed this one.
	Seems to be just sort of the procedure of all establishments across the West.
	A few too many VB long necks.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, so if you are in Australia, dear friends, take heart.
	I'm sure it seems like there are many ways to avoid all of this.
	And what's more as well, even though I do share the concerns of many parents about the toxic and corrosive effect of social media on their children, this is not being done for the reasons that you want it to be done for, ultimately.
	And so I would just personally advocate for taking this into your own hands.
	If you don't like your child spending all this amount of time on their phone, don't let them have the phone.
	If you don't like what they're seeing, you need to be personally in charge of that.
	This is not me just being ideologically libertarian.
	I'm just simply looking at this as the safest way for you to look after your child and make sure that they get the best upbringing that you as a parent can provide for them.
	Yeah, I mean, ultimately, I think what the choice is, is do you take those decisions and that responsibility into your own hands, or do you leave it to the government?
	And with this government in charge that has the track record that it does in Australia, do you want them to have that decision?
	Do you want them to have that responsibility?
	I personally wouldn't.
	Yeah.
	We've got Yoda Wartooth who says, 94 American Zelennial here.
	I completely agree.
	We are best.
	That's a random name.
	I agree that all Zelennials are indeed superior because we're the last generation to experience the golden age.
	Also, I never watched much of PewDiePie until a certain bridge.
	I was OG Pewds.
	I'd already been over PewDiePie by the time the bridge incident happened.
	Like I said, I joined with the Amnesia the Dark Descent playthrough.
	And then, you know, I jumped onto like I was the guy with all of these kit with all of these people, like Markippier when Five Nights at Freddy's, those playthroughs were first coming out.
	Yeah.
	I jumped onto every single one of them.
	And then by 2016, it was H3 and Vape Nation.
	Filthy Frank.
	I never watched Filthy Frank.
	Apart from the H3 collabs with him.
	And then I went back later and watched some of the Ian iDubbbs collabs with Max Mofo and Filthy Frank.
	Those were the golden age.
	I feel like Leafy's here was my original wed pill.
	I never watched him back in the day.
	Lieutenant Kerberos, no fuckers, pyrocynical.
	That was ruined out now.
	Yeah, but he was funny back in the day.
	But he was funny, but he was extremely cringe.
	Yeah, he's very cringe, and he made his videos are just too long.
	Same with iDubbs.
	Idubs was like original wedpill for so many sumers with his like edgy humour, and now he's gone.
	I'll just read, sorry to interrupt.
	From that's a random name.
	He says, once again, we must all lose more of our freedom because the lowest common denominators are hurting themselves once again.
	So many problems would be fixed if we accepted that we're not all equal.
	Arctagious Piers Morgan uncensored equals censorship incoming.
	So this means Piers Morgan uncooked equals cooked.
	And that's a random name is just like sent me on a blast from the past here.
	I was a total biscuit enjoyer, then went to Filthy Frank and Sargon.
	I completely forgot about Total Biscuit.
	I used to watch loads of Total Biscuit back in the day.
	Did he die?
	I have a feeling that he died.
	Who is he?
	Yeah, he died of cancer.
	Rip Total Biscuit.
	What an OG legend.
	All right, Elizabeth, you're back.
	Have a mouse.
	I was going to ask for that.
	That would be great.
	So the Picks, you know, this fear race within Scotland who led victories against Roman legions, painting themselves blue, has beautiful artifacts they've left behind and has merged into the Scottish modern population.
	I think it's 10% of Scots can claim ancestry from the Picks, particularly in the Aberdeenshire region.
	Or apparently actually black, according to a new children's book which portrays them as just that.
	I knew it.
	Aren't all ancestral populations.
	They don't even look like they've not got like the black tight curly hair.
	It looks like they've got very European.
	Yeah.
	Well, no, the one on the left looks like an American Indian.
	Like that's really weird.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And apparently, they wanted to portray and show that Scotland has always been multicultural and diverse, which is why there's like Indian-looking people in the drawings, Native American people, and yeah, it's why they've not left it to one specific ethnicity.
	It has to be all of them.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And so it's a book called Carving the Stone: A Storyteller's Guide to the Picks, and it's funded by the taxpayer-funded Societies of Antiquities of Scotland.
	And it's intended to provide, well, the people who've published it intend to provide free copies of the book in schools and libraries.
	So it's deliberately targeted towards children.
	And they also include a bunch of queer characters as well, and marginalized groups and disabled people to show how diverse the PIC society is.
	The PICS were LGBT champions.
	So is that 10% of Pict why so many Scots are so gay?
	Yeah, because that what the skirts are about.
	Well, yeah, maybe actually.
	It's all coming together.
	It's not all wrong.
	It's because, you know, when you're climbing mountains all the time, you know, trousers kind of get in the way.
	They start to, you know, like ride up a little bit.
	But to the next slide, how do I get to the next slide?
	Oh, if you just press, yeah, that button.
	I can just click.
	Oh, there you go.
	Okay, so here's an actual pick.
	Okay.
	So the pics come from the Latin word painted, so it means painted people.
	And this was what confuses me about the interpretation about the pics being black.
	If you were black, how do you paint yourself?
	I mean, it wouldn't really show.
	It wouldn't stand out exactly.
	So they're an indigenous group to eastern and northern Scotland.
	And over time, they merged with the other Celtic tribes, which is why they completely disappeared.
	Because they would have merged with other existing groups.
	People like Geoffrey of Monomouth claim that they descend from Eastern Europe.
	Other people say they were an indigenous population that resided in Britain before the Britons.
	And we don't really know too much about their origin.
	But I've got an actual picture of a Pict, if you click to the next slide.
	That's actually apparently more is this actually what they looked like, apparently.
	They are the same.
	Yeah.
	One to one, really.
	But this is, I think Lotus Eaters has covered this topic already, but this is this African tribe that said their ancestors.
	Pict tribe, surely.
	They've had been kicked out from Scotland 400 years ago, and they're reclaiming as recent as 400 years ago.
	Apparently, Oliver Cromwell takes over.
	He's not nice to the Irish, but he's got even more of a bone to pick with those bloody picks.
	Apparently they were native black Jacobites, and then...
	Which confuses me, because my...
	Alongside the black Hebrew Israelites, surely.
	Yeah, because my ancestors were Jacobites and the McDougall that died on Clodden Field when Bonnie Prince Charlie sailed away.
	And I don't think they ever saw a black person in their life.
	I'm really confused where this claim of black Jacobites has come from.
	I don't know if the people making these claims have ever met a Celt.
	But even as a pasty Englishman, right?
	I look swarthy next to some Celts.
	They can be very, very pale people.
	If you're familiar with WWE, just imagine an entire nation of Seamuses, right?
	That's what the Celts are.
	I feel like it's...
	You see that meme on the white all the time, the Irish are black.
	I...
	I feel like that's been taken so far that because these people, some of them are African-American, African Americans started taking it seriously.
	So when you call Celts black, they're like, oh, well, we must have ancestry there.
	We're going to come there and live in the woods.
	African Americans are descended from West African tribes.
	Yes, you can actually trace, presumably, through records and through genetic ancestry where these people would have been coming from.
	You could do like Y-DNA haplogroup tests and you could do mtDNA haplogroup stuff.
	And it's the same thing with the Picts.
	When you say we're unsure of their origins, I'd be interested to see if there's been any, obviously I don't know about the archaeological stuff, but if there's been any wide-scale genetic testing done to them to try and get a better idea of where their haplogroups originate from.
	Are they like R1B?
	I'm not too sure about the genetic testing.
	I need to research more into genetic testing, but they're definitely descended from Europeans and not other groups outside of Survive the Jive, probably.
	Yeah, if he was here, I'm sure he could tell you all about it.
	But the point of this photo is when you tell lies that, you know, the Picts are black, the Anglo-Saxons are black, the Normans are black, Vikings are black, and the Britons are black, then people start to actually believe it.
	And you get people like these people who will say, my ancestry belongs here.
	There's another example of...
	I'm sorry, I'm sorry, just on a logical basis, if everybody was black, where do white people come from?
	And also, what was so special about the Windrush?
	Yeah, as recent as 400 years ago, everybody that we descend from was like, where did this, what happened?
	Well, I guess we don't have to pay reparations, Dan.
	Well, I mean...
	All one kin.
	news everyone no apparently they need like we all get m-word passers Somebody needs to pay us reparations then.
	I don't know who exactly, but somebody, you're Irish, but I'm not paying you any reparations.
	My family died in the potato famine.
	Oh, the potato famine.
	Oh, my family died in the potato famine.
	Get over it.
	I'm over it.
	Great.
	And find more with my British genetics rather than my Irish.
	But no, there's this other example, which is Stonehenge was built by Black Britons, Children's History Book claims.
	And it's this book called Brilliant Black British History, published by Bloomsbury.
	And it's again funded by the taxpayer under a taxpayer organisation called the Book of Trust.
	And it won the children's non-fiction book of the year at the British Book Awards.
	You see how these are all deliberately targeted towards children.
	It's like completely false history, completely revising our past, which is based on the so many lies.
	You can't give the book to the older generations because they literally remember a time when none of these people were.
	Yeah, they'll be like, I never, I know, it would be like I never saw an African.
	Yeah.
	Is that the RAF?
	Yeah.
	So actually, we actually have records about this.
	You could actually just check how many there were, what they were doing, what their accomplishments were.
	And they'll try and make you believe, oh no, it was all just kept off of the records for some nefarious reason.
	But if you were all so widespread already, if we were all so multicultural, how did we have such an upper hand to keep so many people off of the records and continue to oppress?
	It's a completely nonsensical narrative.
	It's lies.
	I mean, in 1952, Britain, the minorities made up less than 1% of the population.
	I think it was 0.01%.
	That's how small it was.
	So to, I mean, this book claims that every single British person comes from a migrant.
	And the very first Britons were black.
	King Arthur was black.
	Ambrosius was black.
	Fortigan was black.
	Hengerson Horsen.
	Hengers and Horsen was.
	Hengiston Horsen.
	Hengiston.
	The notoriously black Saxons, Jutes, and Angles.
	Clemen the Last was black.
	I mean, at the very least, even with Cheddarman, they're going back.
	We're going to talk about him in a minute.
	But at the very least, even with Cheddarman, they're going back 10,000 years.
	And that would be enough time for traits to develop outside of, for one, even with Cheddar Man when they're saying that he's dark, they're not actually saying that he has African ancestry or was an African.
	They're just saying that he had darker skin.
	And this is still probably inaccurate.
	But look at Cheddarman, right?
	He has blue eyes.
	Have you met any non-Europeans?
	A sub-Saharan African that has blue eyes.
	No, absolutely.
	Outside of black Americans who have a hefty admixture of European in them anyway, I do always find it fascinating and unique sometimes when you see black Americans where they do have like piercing blue eyes.
	It's a very unique sight, but the very fact that it's unique is testimony to how rare it is.
	And Survivor Jives talked about this, but Cheddarman is a Western hunter and gatherer.
	And only Europeans are related to Western hunter-gatherers.
	No other race outside of Europe has any Western hunter-gatherer DNA.
	So this claim that Cheddarman is a sub-Saharan African is completely false.
	Just because he had, well, in this depiction, a dark complexion.
	Well, there were also the discovery of one of his direct ancestors, direct descendants, living near the area of Cheddar Gorge where the skeleton was found, who they showed pictures of.
	And it was kind of weird.
	His facial features, obviously he was white.
	His facial features were remarkably similar to the reconstruction that they put together.
	Which goes to show how long we as a people today, how long our roots go back in this country.
	But if you go back to the last slide, there's other funny things that claims like that Stonehenge was built by black people, apparently, even though if you go back to the mythology, it's giants.
	And even then, it's Melon in the account by Dreffy of Monnemouth that brings it from Northern Ireland to Wiltshire as a way to celebrate Ambozius's victories over the Anglo-Saxons.
	I would believe that Merlin, with the help of giants, built Stonehenge more than I would believe that it was the sub-Saharans.
	Merlin was black, apparently.
	Seems more.
	And the weird thing is, to me, none of anything that we're saying is an insult to other peoples across the world.
	No.
	It's literally saying, we have a different history to you.
	That's not a moral history.
	We are a different people to you.
	It's actually much more politically and morally loaded to try to insert yourself into somebody else's history where you are not.
	And the fact that, again, that this is being taxpayer funded is one of the most evil things about it.
	Because I've gone over recently how much effing tax we pay in this country and how much we are just used as tax slaves for the establishment so that they can try to erase us from our own history.
	But the book also states that its claims that the Britons are black comes from a Roman historian saying that the Britons within Wales had dark-skinned and curly hair, so they look like what egg nationalists because they were dark Britons.
	And Los of account, well, if you go back to our founding myths, they say, were descended from Brutus of Troy, who brought the Trojans over here.
	And it's whenever you believe that or not, that was one of the myths that our ancestors told themselves.
	And also in Nennias, he talks about the fact that the Irish come from the lost tribe of Moses.
	He actually writes this in this book.
	And this is true, at least.
	It goes back to this, yeah, I think it's the seventh century.
	That's why Israel and Ireland have such a thing going on right now.
	It's really ancient tribal rivalry.
	That's why when you look at some Irish people, they kind of have Jewish features.
	They've got the Hebrews.
	Like the nose, like my grandfather does.
	So yeah, I can claim ancestry from Moses, I guess.
	If you believe that.
	I do believe that.
	But the tribe of Moses went to Spain for a couple of hundred years, mixed with the Spanish, and then came to Ireland, I'm pretty sure.
	So it may explain why the Irish have dark features like brown eyes and so on.
	But yeah, Diversity built Britain.
	Everyone knows this image.
	It's a very famous image.
	And this historical revisionism has basically become a part of the elite's message that your history was not built by your ancestors, but built by immigrants.
	And there's no basis to this, apart from the elite saying, oh, well, railways and canals and so on were built by Irish navvies.
	Therefore, immigration built Britain.
	But in part.
	And even then, the Irish are an indigenous population to the British Isles.
	I mean, for a couple of hundred years, Ireland was a part of the United Kingdom, and particularly when the Irish Navies came over.
	But the reason you see all of this historical revisionism aimed at children and aimed at the public, like in this coin, is because the elite wants, the establishment wants to normalize people to the demographic changes that are happening today and tell them that it's always been this way.
	That changes in your neighborhood, Violence in the streets, all the consequences brought by immigration.
	It's always been like this.
	It's completely fine.
	Britain was built on this to begin with.
	So you'll have to get used to it.
	Well, everyone who's complicit in this, from Rishi Sunak holding up the coin to the people in the BBC who write the scripts, to the people who cast them, to the people who act in them, they're all guilty of just stealing our history from us.
	It's just total cultural theft and vandalism.
	As a justification for saying that this isn't our country, you were never entitled to it anyway.
	And the thing is, as well, you might even use a particular G-word, which I'm not going to say because it'll probably get flagged on YouTube if you know for me, it would be inconceivable to go to a foreign country and just pretend that I was somehow a part of it.
	That I was a larger part of their national story.
	It would just be, I don't mean to be all British about it, but it'd just be bad manners, wouldn't it?
	Yeah, like the Africans in the Scottish Woods.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Well, I mean, it speaks to some, obviously, insecurity of identity, though, doesn't it?
	They're just so insecure that they feel that the only thing they can do is steal from the achievements and legacy of another people.
	I mean, also, frankly, to be honest, I don't really see much value in stealing anybody else's history.
	Could you imagine if I went to Mexico and Central America and just declared that I'm an Aztec now?
	We were the original Aztecs, actually.
	But at that point, what kind of legacy am I laying claim to?
	Ah, yes, my ancestors were the ones who brutally committed ritual blood murders against children.
	No, that's not what I want.
	I mean, when you look at the Aztecs' original god, I forgot his name, but there's a statue of him where he's got this European beard and European features.
	You could say they can trace their ancestry back to the Atlanteans.
	So you could make that claim and then, but that's going really esoteric.
	I love that you preface it all by saying, well, you could say this.
	You could say this, but do you say it?
	But what Rishi Sunak's doing here is a term that I've coined as Fortiganism based on King Fortigan who sold out the Britons for his lust over Hengis' daughter.
	So he sold out his people for his interest for foreigners.
	And that's what you see with the establishment is they constantly sell us out, lie to us, because they're far more interested in the foreign political stage than they are about their own people and their own kin.
	But they openly admit this.
	I mean, here's a great example of the director from Doctor Who.
	Yeah, he was the showrunner during Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi years, which progressively got worse and worse for this kind of thing as they went on.
	Yeah.
	He says, young people watching have to know that they have a place in the future.
	That really matters.
	You have to care profoundly about what children's shows in particular say about where you're going to be.
	But the most important quote here is, we've kind of got to tell a lie.
	We'll go back into history and there will be black people where historically there wouldn't have been.
	And we won't dwell on that.
	So he's saying we have to lie about our history to make modern minorities feel like they fit in, feel like they've always belonged here.
	And so we have to deliberately rewrite history.
	I mean, George Orwell once about this in like 1984.
	He who controls the past controls the future.
	And it's exactly that.
	What a trustworthy face.
	But this whole thing as well, it's like, oh, we just have to lie.
	It's like, no, we don't.
	We don't even have to accept that these people should be here, Stephen.
	I don't accept that Stephen Moffat was granted some kind of democratic responsibility and authority over what our children should believe beyond basic children's morality tales, which is what in some of the earlier episodes of Knew Who he was actually okay at.
	I've never really watched Doctor Who, I'm not a Who fan.
	I wish I had never got into it.
	Given the state of it these days.
	This is all I ever hear, how people have been punished for being who fans.
	So I was like, I'm just not getting.
	Well, it's the same thing as most fans of any product recently.
	It's the old red letter media thing.
	Like, how does it feel to watch all of your favourite franchises crashing and burning?
	Feels great.
	Well, Star Wars never did because it stopped at six episodes.
	So thank God that George Lucas made the prequels and they were universally acclaimed.
	And nobody ever did anything with the franchise ever again.
	It's also like, you know, Black Amberlynn, all our shows are deliberately diversified.
	But when you look at the original Robin Hood from the 90s, I haven't watched it, but I'm sure you have, Luca.
	And when diversity is included, it actually has, like, a good origin story.
	Well, the point is that Morgan...
	Was this with Morgan Freeman?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I think so.
	He's a sub-Saharan who Kevin Costner met on Crusades in the Holy Land.
	So it actually makes sense to why that makes sense.
	Right.
	He's not ethnic.
	He wasn't born in England.
	He came back to England with the Robin Hood character.
	Makes sense, why?
	It's tastefully done.
	I've never seen that Robin Hood.
	Does he still speak in an American accent in it?
	I've not watched it for a long time.
	Because that would be funny if he was some Ethiopian that they met in the Holy Land during the Crusades who just happens to have a modern American accent.
	I'd love that.
	Well, I love how they just mogged Dick Van Dyke over his Cockney accent in Mary Poppins to the point that when he came to do bang bang, also set in England, he went, I'm just doing my American.
	Chitty Chitty Bang Bang is a great.
	It's in my top ten, I think.
	I watched it for the first time a few years ago, and I thought it was just so whimsical.
	Oh, it's perfect.
	Yeah, it is.
	Wonderful characters.
	All right.
	Well, for the sake of time, we should.
	We've got 10 minutes.
	Let's go through the quick rumble rants and then the video comments.
	Random name went to a trade school full of rich French kids who were arguing with me.
	There had always been black people in Europe and their football team was 100% native European.
	I called them the N-1.
	But this is what I mean.
	People actually fall for this propaganda.
	People actually believe it.
	Because they want to believe it.
	Yeah, because they're told to believe it.
	Well, I mean, some people, like the black guys going and claiming picked ancestry.
	I mean, it might just be that they are so culturally disconnected and they have no knowledge of it that they just actually fall for it.
	I mean, you can't take ignorance out of the equation.
	Habsification, the picture of that black dude with long hair might just be Pimp a Perm from a black exploitation movie.
	He's worried about getting dirt on his gator shoes screaming, bitch, where's my money?
	They state, the only thing I'm learning from this children's book is that I'm allowed to say the word.
	I was Kang.
	I invented inventing things.
	Gibbs me.
	I did do nothing.
	She.
	Gibbs orange.
	Me eat orange.
	Give orange.
	Habsification, you know they're going to eventually outright say Britain has stolen land from black people and the white people stole it from them.
	Just look at the Silk Weaver Reasonable Blackman.
	I love that that was his actual name.
	Reasonable Black Man.
	I'm sure he was a delight as well.
	Well, that book, the one, the Children's Book about the Black Britons, that one says that white people stole our land.
	It literally says that in the book and they sell it in museums around England.
	So they are making that claim already.
	Apparently, this land is not ours and it actually belongs to sub-Saharan Africans.
	Well, that's just an outright lie.
	So, apparently, third world immigration is the return of their kin.
	I'm sure it is.
	May I just have the mouse quickly?
	Yeah, thank you.
	Here you go.
	Okay, let's do video comments.
	You hit it twice.
	Oh.
	Merry Christmas from the Z I look like Veros looks like Pavarotti.
	That was horrible.
	Look at Nathan's black eyes.
	What's going on with that?
	He's a soulless demon.
	This is my sleep paralysis demon.
	Yes, can we move on from sleep paralysis?
	Thank you.
	I must admit that when doing my psychohistoric calculations, my mingo card didn't have Zoomers pulling a handsome squidward.
	I'm glad there is still some magic left in the world.
	You know what?
	I've seen some more clavicular clips since that segment.
	And I've got to say, I don't support it or advocate what he does.
	I don't think he's a bad guy, though.
	I think he's quite entertaining.
	I kind of sometimes like the shock jock approach for this stuff.
	I would never say take meth to just get yourself through the day though.
	Good God.
	This isn't the same one again, is it?
	No, it's a different one.
	I can just...
	Samson!
	CSCooper.com.au Oh, he sounds just like Dan.
	I can hear Samson in the background.
	Right, go on then, Samson.
	Next.
	Oh, I know.
	Hey, though, Cetis, I'm in Bolton, and right now I'm at the house of Fred Didn't the blue plaque.
	And here is his grave.
	A much loved steeplejack.
	Quite a few tools around here.
	And a bit of a soggy flat cap.
	I will leave with you, Fred.
	Camera Ginnis.
	Oh, wow.
	Did someone leave a lighter in a joint?
	Sesty King's a really wholesome guy.
	Bloody well travelled as well.
	Great job, Zesty.
	Tom Hartman sets out to explain how a mistake in the writing of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, which does not distinguish between natural and artificial persons, has been twisted to grant corporations the rights of human beings.
	His work cites clearly the relevant cases and actors that distorted American business law since the late 19th century.
	What I was not prepared for was, despite his text excoriating Republicans whilst lauding Democrats, Hartman lays out a compelling case for tariffs to redress trade imbalances from corporations unfairly seeking the lowest cost entry to market.
	That does sound interesting.
	I think I've seen that book about in a charity shop once, and I should have picked it up because it sounds very interesting.
	Now here we are, we're putting a museum of glass in their glass feast.
	Merry Christmas.
	Merry Christmas to you.
	Yeah, Merry Christmas to you too, Michael.
	I did catch everything that you said.
	Why does glass food look so much tastier than real food?
	It's Christmas time, and you're looking for some really good non-work stories.
	I can think of a place to go.
	Witness the Star Wars assembly and saving the world in the Axel soccer.
	And read Final Flight of the Raniker, the epic sci-fi fantasy.
	Just go to cscoopa.com.au and use the promo code Xmas2025 for a 15% discount.
	No.
	At the Altair, Cooper Forever.
	Honestly, do it.
	Why not?
	Yeah, yeah, go for it.
	Yeah.
	He's a good lad.
	Yeah, Merry Christmas, Greg.
	The increased interest rate when you're on a higher salary is clearly to encourage you to pay it off faster when you're more able to.
	Personally, I find it disgusting students are given any taxpayer money at all.
	If the degree is so valuable, it will pay for itself.
	Right?
	Okay, Boomer.
	Carry on.
	Leo looks really cool.
	He needs music.
	Yeah, is it supposed to have sounds, Samson?
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, fair enough.
	Copyright.
	Cool edit, though.
	Dan likes the Flashman novels, and he's trying to get into the Warhammer 40k series.
	And there is a character called CFS Kane in it that has like a whole book series set around him that is basically just an homage to Flashman with a little bit of like black adder thrown in for good measure.
	So formatted the same way as Flashman novels, with the idea being that these are like journals that he left after his death that are now being like analyzed by Inquisitors.
	And basically it's just saying, oh, yeah, all that stuff I did, it was all kind of fake.
	Yeah, very cool.
	I'm pretty sure that that character is on Dan's radar because there was a comment about it.
	Might have been from yourself after we did the Flashman Chronicle.
	So yeah, he knows.
	I'm sure he'll get through to it.
	And that's the end of the video comments.
	Don't play it again.
	Sammy.
	Bad Samson.
	Go back to Japan.
	Let's read a few of the website comments while we've got a few minutes.
	Go then.
	What do I have to say about Mr. Mario?
	All right, Sophie.
	I don't want any man to hand me a tampon.
	That would be really, really weird.
	And I would be sure to avoid that man at all costs in the future.
	Right.
	Sophie, again, I feel like Piers Morgan probably should get a DNA test on his children.
	He only has one child with that wife.
	Unsurprisingly, this is his second wife.
	Dirty Belter.
	Never forget Piers Morgan.
	Supported the lockdown and VAX mandates.
	He is scum in the simplest and most absolute sense.
	May a migrant hotel open where he lives.
	Yvon on Rumble as well sent $10 in and say, Luca, when you become PM instead of banning OnlyFans straight away, start by banning the non-English.
	See if it doesn't work itself out as social cohesion resets and community initiatives start solving things.
	I don't think that would be enough to reset a kind of more traditional morality.
	Although I promise you, I will assemble a remarkable cabinet and we will get to the bottom of it.
	And Michael Joberbus, why is she still married to him?
	Rich, convenient.
	He literally has no spine or backbone with her.
	That last comment.
	Nick refuses to eat Applebee, so that's why Carl doesn't like him.
	Oh my god.
	Rivalry for the ages there, folks.
	All right, from mine, there are Roman Observer says, in the sad situation we're in, the managerial state parenting is so delegitimized that you need to use the law to justify any form of moral behavior, especially if you want to impose some sort of order or protection on your children.
	Kevin Fox says, my granddaughter is 16, but her mother takes her phone off of her at 9.30 p.m. every day to stop her doom scrolling all night.
	To be fair, my daughter still doom scrolls until she goes to sleep, though.
	Yeah.
	I try to doom scroll a lot less these days.
	Yeah, it's good for you.
	Yeah.
	And then AZ Desert Rat says, how about parents be parents?
	Kids who have minimal access to devices to young ages always turn out to be mentally healthier.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And then from your segment, Elizabeth, Russian Garbage Human says, Ecclestone and Tennant were the last good doctors.
	Shout out to Russian Garbage.
	Yeah.
	Michael DeBelba says, Picts, weren't they the ones fighting Conan?
	True.
	Very true.
	Conan, real.
	And then Derek Power, Master of Chippies, says, Stonehenge was built by Spinal Tap.
	Damn it.
	That's real.
	That's real.
	That is real history.
	That's right.
	Oh, sorry.
	Just quick honourable mention from World Inquisitor Hector X says, I'd like to ask Elizabeth her opinions.
	No.
	On Luca's former mustache.
	How do we keep coming back to?
	Luca should bring his mustache back.
	He looked like a soldier from a Saturn machine.
	Okay, well, that's...
	Yes, he looked like a lieutenant darling.
	Captain Darling, I was.
	Oh, Captain Darling, yes.
	Apologies.
	Yes, apologies.
	I didn't mean to underrank you.
	Thank you.
	All right, then, ladies and gentlemen, that's all we've got time for today.
	Elizabeth, thank you very much for joining us on the panel.
	It's been great fun.
	And enjoy the rest of your day, ladies and gentlemen.

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