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	Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
	Welcome to the podcast of the Ludseaters for Friday, the 26th of September, 2025.
	I'm joined by Nick and Bo, and today we're getting absolutely crushed by the Starma government because he's bringing in digital ID and it's all going to hell.
	We're also going to be talking about how Starma's finished, how this is the last gasp of Starma's regime, and how James Comey is probably going to go to jail.
	Something's actually going to happen.
	Fingers crossed.
	Can't.
	Something always happens.
	Well, I mean, apparently a lot of stuff is happening today.
	I mean, you know, so unfortunately, nothing ever happens, bros.
	We're on life support at this point.
	But before we begin, go get your copy of Islander.
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	After they go off sale, I always get like a million messages of, oh, can I get that old copy?
	And the answer is no.
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	You'll have to go to eBay where it costs like £400 for a bloody X copy.
	So get it now while you can.
	And if you are a Gold Tier subscriber on the website, myself and Luca are doing the Gold Tier Zoom call this afternoon.
	So join us after the podcast for that.
	So let's begin.
	Keir Starmer has announced that they're going to bring in digital IDs.
	So you will not be able to work or do various other things without having a digital ID.
	Now, this is pretty mad, to be honest.
	And I'm going to read from this.
	It's a live page that the BBC have had.
	It's probably updated since I made the notes.
	So I'm just going to read from my notes.
	But they say the government's digital ID scheme will enable digital checks on people's right to work and live in the UK.
	So they are going to have to have a centralized database with information about everyone in the country to hand at all times.
	And it's going to be able to be checked at will by whoever is intending to access it.
	They say under the plans, anyone starting a new job or looking to rent a home would need to show the card on a smartphone app.
	So you have to have a smartphone to just live in the UK now.
	It becomes a mandatory piece of equipment.
	Starma phone.
	I'll have a special phone.
	Well, they're going to have to.
	It's like, sorry, am I getting a government-issued one then, am I?
	Which is going to be terrible.
	But anyway.
	Well, if you just claim you've still got like a Nokia 3210.
	Then you can't live or work in the UK.
	Then you can't.
	Okay.
	Apparently, according to the BBC.
	And this would then be checked against a central database of people entitled to live and work in the UK.
	So it is actually the sort of final form of the full-on technocracy that they've been trying to create in this country since about 1997, in fact.
	I mean, there is an obvious loophole, isn't there?
	People that are already engaged in being here and living here and working here illegally will still just do so if they're getting paid cash in hand.
	Well, then they're still to keep doing that?
	They'll have to live with someone who can stay here legally.
	Well, but their landlord is a dodgy geezer who lets them pay rent and billions of people doing that.
	It is a scheme that's only going to affect those people who comply with it, basically.
	Yeah, because Tice was saying, wasn't it on question time?
	Richard Tys, that national insurance should already do this.
	Yes.
	But it doesn't.
	Needing a national insurance number.
	But people don't.
	Yes.
	Right, exactly.
	And so it's going to affect those law-abiding people who actually will comply with the system and those people who don't will just find ways around it.
	So yet again, it is the law-abiding people being tyrannized, whereas the criminals will just carry on as they are in the dark economy.
	It's called a narco-tourney folks.
	Is it?
	I've never heard that before.
	I have to say it every time on anything.
	It's the classic thing.
	The thing that springs to my mind is someone goes to court, you get some Albanian or something who's done something illegal.
	They go to court, they go through the process, they get an electronic tag attached to their ankle.
	They come out of the court and cut the tag off.
	And that's it.
	That's it.
	That's the end of the story as far as they're concerned.
	They go back into the dark realms, living and working illegally and don't care.
	And we have millions of people living and working illegally in this country.
	So they list a series of countries.
	Which countries use digital IDs?
	Don't you want to be like Singapore, the UAE, China, South Korea, or Afghanistan?
	It's like, not really.
	Well, it's the whole thing.
	If we had Singapore's cleanliness and safety, which we don't have an economy, but we never will.
	It will always be the crap version without that.
	The chewing gum thing.
	You know, they hang you if you leave chewing them on the street.
	We never get that version.
	We always just get all the bad parts.
	Do you not want the same sort of social credit system that China has?
	Not really, because I don't want a drone circling my house saying, give up your thirst for freedom.
	Actually, we have done.
	That was actually a real example, by the way.
	Give up your thirst for freedom.
	It's not Star House.
	Or you live on the 10th floor and they send a drone up to hover just outside your balcony.
	I've seen that.
	Yeah, and that's literally what's the cost of the law.
	That's the star media.
	But this is genuinely where it's looking like that we're going.
	And so Dan pointed out: look, we use a lot of digital services, but these are all one-to-one relationships that you control.
	And that's totally true.
	I mean, think about like even the old world sort of services.
	Like, okay, do you want to get a driving license?
	Well, you have to pay to get the driving license, take the test, pass the test, and then you have it.
	Do you want a passport?
	You have to go and apply to the passport office, send in your details, and then they'll send you a passport.
	These are all voluntary.
	You can actually live in the country without a driving license or a passport if you want.
	For all of the faults of modern Britain, we are still not a papers-pleas society.
	And that's what this is going to turn us into.
	But it's going to turn us into the most extreme version of it.
	And of course, every service will demand a link to your digital ID, and why would they not?
	And the government will have a nexus that can flag you as a suspect, restrict you, and just ban you.
	And the Bank of England want to bring in a digital pound currency.
	So the currency you're using carries metadata.
	And so they can track where it's spent, who it's spent by, what it's spent on, and where it goes after that.
	And so they could literally just intercede in your payments.
	So they can shut you completely out of the economy.
	They can track you honestly anywhere you go.
	And this will be the law of this country.
	It will be mandatory.
	It's so much easier than sending police to your house at night for a tweet.
	You do a bad tweet, bank account's frozen for a day, two days, whatever they decide.
	And not even if your bank account's not frozen, you just can't buy anything.
	Yeah, certain services don't work, like an Uber or whatever.
	Versions of this already happened.
	You know, Fuentes, I did bank accounts frozen.
	Trudeau did it for the truckers.
	And I was saying to you before, you buy your steak.
	He's like, you've had your steak for the month.
	The card tells you, you know, that's your monthly steak.
	I love that it's saying this in.
	Yeah, yeah, Starman's voice.
	so good but uh this is the crux of it though for me i think because that that really because if it was just we just want another form of id and people like us say well we've already got a birth certificate a national insurance number and a passport a digital passport We don't need it.
	But, okay, if it means I go to prison, if I don't do it, I'll just do it.
	Okay.
	Another card you want me to have.
	but this is Dan gets to the crux of it because it's not just that it's the It's not that they just want you to have another card.
	No, no, no.
	It will be a type of full control.
	Total government control over every aspect of society.
	Where if you fall foul of the party in any way, in any way, if you do a tweet they don't like, then suddenly you can't buy anything or you're not allowed into certain places in your smart city anymore.
	Suddenly you can't pay your rent.
	And post-COVID, all this is completely possible.
	Like pre-COVID, some people might have said, oh, you're being silly.
	But post-COVID, it's like nothing is silly because you arrested people for walking along a beach alone or being on a park bench.
	You locked us down in our houses.
	Yeah, you said my job couldn't be done anymore.
	It's like, yeah, sorry, you're in your house now.
	You can go out once a day to be walked like a dog.
	It's like we saw there was nothing too absurd for them during COVID.
	So of course they'll do all this.
	It will be, you do a tweet we don't like, you are now under house arrest indefinitely.
	Right, yeah.
	It will be that quite quickly.
	Yeah, you're in your house and you're eating bugs for a week.
	And that's if you're lucky.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And so yeah, this is obviously, genuinely, this is basically the worst possible scenario, which is why Starmer came out and proudly was like, yeah, I'm doing this because this is a great idea.
	Let's watch him announce it, shall we?
	And that is why today I am announcing this government will make a new free-of-charge digital ID mandatory for the right to work by the end of this parliament.
	Let me spell that out.
	You will not be able to work in the United Kingdom if you do not have digital ID.
	It's as simple as that.
	Absolute tyrant.
	Because decent, pragmatic, fair-minded people, they want us to tackle the issues that they see around them.
	And of course, the truth is, we won't solve our problems if we don't also take on the root causes.
	Looking upstream to tackle poverty, conflict, climate change.
	Issues that aren't just intolerable for those of us who care about inequality and injustice wherever it's found in the world.
	There's a few red flags.
	One is the fact that it's free.
	Do you remember the free burgers for getting the vaccine?
	Yeah.
	The other is he's talking about climate change already.
	He's like, sorry, what?
	And he's already tying it to climate change.
	Your carbon footprint means you can't buy that steak.
	Yeah.
	It's what he's going to go to.
	Yeah.
	And the other is just, as you say, the absolute tyranny of it.
	But the fact that he's so confidently, you will do this.
	This will happen.
	Just like with the Salport Rice, you will go to jail.
	We will get you.
	It's like, right.
	You are just a tyrannical technocrat.
	Understood.
	Who made you the autocrat of Britain?
	Yeah, you don't have a mandate for this, by the way.
	No, not at all.
	Like, Labour have won this election with the smallest percentage of votes that Labour have ever won an election on.
	And so there is no mandate for this.
	And everyone, everyone can tell.
	And he's doing that Blair trigger, of course, decent, pragmatic, fair-minded people.
	Anyone who's fair, of course, anyone would want this if you'd have to do it.
	Why wouldn't you want it?
	But if I'm not, what if I'm not that pragmatic?
	And it also opens up the question of what happens when something goes wrong.
	So, I mean, you have a database of everyone's information in the entire country.
	Well, it's not like cybercrime isn't the thing.
	It's not like these databases can't be hacked.
	You know, oh, great.
	So someone in China or wherever or India or wherever it is can just hack this database and get absolutely everyone's details.
	Yeah.
	And I remember the other thing I was going to say.
	It's the answer to a question we didn't ask.
	So it's like, can you stop the boats?
	Here's your digital ID.
	That's not what I said.
	I said, can we stop some dinghies?
	Yeah.
	Yes, you'll need a digital ID.
	I think we'll just need like the Navy in 10 minutes.
	Or we need to get out of the ECH.
	But yeah, it's like, no, no.
	It just reminded me of when Sir David Ames was murdered by Islamist Nutter.
	It's like, oh, yeah, Online Safety Act.
	What?
	It's like, no, no, I think it was the Islamist.
	No, no, we need to regulate online speech.
	Like, I'm sorry.
	So it's a classic technocratic manager or progressive bollock.
	He's got the cheek to talk about justice and injustice.
	Yes.
	Because what he's creating here is a prison without walls.
	He can turn the entire country into a prison for any person at any time with a flick of a switch.
	Your phone becomes the jailer.
	Yes.
	And what about someone just steals your phone?
	It's not like there's not hundreds of thousands of phones stolen every year.
	In London.
	Yeah.
	Alone.
	Until you're able to deactivate that.
	Someone's just you now.
	Yeah.
	And they've got your complete identity.
	And the thing is, because they'll say, well, look, it's tied to his digital ID.
	Okay, well, then why would I need any other checks?
	Right?
	So if someone steals your phone, yeah, I can buy a car.
	I can get a loan for a house.
	I can get a mortgage.
	I can just do all this because why would I not be able to do that?
	Like, that's the way they're selling this is convenience.
	This is going to speed up a bunch of things.
	So this whole thing, like I said, creating a prison without walls for everyone in the country, which I think is an absolutely atrocious thing.
	And Starmer's announcing it like it's inevitable, like it's a good thing, and like he's going to mercilessly impose this on us.
	And so you've got like things from like this just Sky News thing.
	You haven't seen Viva Vendetta, but this just sounds exactly like a Viva Vendetta clip.
	Breaking news now.
	Digital ID will be made law for all adults in an effort to tackle small boats.
	Downing Street believes that a mandatory ID card system will help stop illegal immigrants working.
	Let's bring in our political correspondence.
	I mean, the tone and the delivery just sound and the ridiculousness of it and the oppressive nature of it.
	Doesn't that just sound like one of the broadcasts from Viva Vendetta?
	I'd love that nonsense to stop the small boats.
	Your sentence doesn't even make sense.
	And we know it won't do that.
	Yeah, we could just deport illegals and stop the boats using the Navy, or we could have a digital ID that turns this entire country into an open-air prison.
	You could make it illegal to come in on a small boat and put you straight in prison.
	You do it in 10 minutes.
	Yeah, you could just make it happen.
	And the small boat people won't abide by it anyway.
	That's the whole point of them, is that they tend to avoid these kind of things.
	And you give them a bunch of free money anyway.
	We all know that it's a complete liar, that it's about small boats and immigration.
	If you remember back in the COVID era, they were saying that we need ID.
	Blair was saying we need ID cards because of COVID vaccine.
	So now you've moved to goalposts something completely different.
	We remember 40 years ago.
	He's only been remaining since the 90s.
	So we remember what we did.
	We'll get into the history of this in a minute.
	So Lisa and Andy went on BBC Breakfast and she explained, well, you know, what happens if people just don't do it?
	All UK citizens will have to have one.
	Well, the plan is that we're going to roll this out by the end of the day.
	No, no, my question is, what if I don't?
	What if I've got my job?
	So I don't need to show this to anyone.
	So what if I just don't do it?
	So if you don't have one, then you'll have a problem if you want to get a new job.
	No, I'm saying I'm not doing that.
	So I'm not seeking a job.
	So why should I get the digital ID card?
	Why do I do it?
	Is there some fine for not doing it?
	Is there an incentive to do it?
	I'm just thinking, I've got no reason to do it.
	Yeah, look, this isn't a heavy-handed approach.
	We're not planning to go around hiring people.
	But what we are going to do is make sure that everybody's got one.
	In the same way, Charlie, as you've got a national insurance number, if you're a citizen of this country, we'll make sure that everybody has a digital ID.
	So help me with this.
	I know we're plotting through this, but so everyone watching has got a job, has got a national insurance number.
	So when these digital ID cards exist, If I just go to my employer and show them my national insurance number, is that not sufficient?
	Are they being precluded from employing me?
	It won't be sufficient.
	I just want to be really clear about that.
	They can't employ people unless they've seen one of the things that I've done.
	A digital ID.
	Yes, that's right.
	That is the plan.
	And the major benefit of that to the entirety of the UK is that we will therefore be able to disrupt the illegal market where people come to this country and work illegally and undercut British workers who could otherwise get those.
	Well, a national insurance number would have the same effect because if you're illegal, you can't have one of those.
	Well, the problem with national insurance numbers is that they're not linked to anything else.
	So they're not linked, for example, to photo ID.
	So you can't verify that the person in front of you is actually the person whose national insurance number that you're looking at.
	And we've seen a real rise in the amount of identity theft and people losing documents and then finding that their identity has been stolen.
	We think this can have really big knock-on effects for the whole of the UK population.
	Right.
	So you can see there, it's interesting.
	We're not going to fine you.
	We're going to lock you out of society.
	We don't need to fine you because you're not going to have any money by the end of this.
	You won't be able to get a job.
	You won't be able to get a house.
	If you don't comply, you'll have nothing.
	But I think it's really interesting that she says, oh, no, we're going to have this by the end of this parliament.
	Why is it so definite?
	Well, it's because you know you're going to lose.
	You know you're never getting in again.
	And you expect the next administration of this country to just carry on with this thing.
	Now, the next administration is going to be Nigel Farage.
	Things carry on.
	So why isn't he just can it day one?
	Which he absolutely can do, which makes this a very strange hail name.
	I mean, Cameron did it to Blair.
	He absolutely did a few.
	So with this policy, as far as I know, so you can just stop it.
	And that'll be the first, it'd be a very popular, obvious reform policy.
	Yeah.
	And Farage will.
	He's already declared that he will.
	So it's, and it would be very strange for a government not to do that.
	So why are they doing this very, very desperate Hail Mary, which is absolutely not going to make them more popular?
	Now, I've heard on the grapevine that basically the point of this is to avert Kier Starmer being challenged by Andy Burnham, which we're going to talk about in a minute, actually.
	That's linked.
	Yes, because what the purpose of this is, is to bring in the Blair Foundation network.
	So Tony Blair, his foundation, and the network that he's connected to, which is a vast and powerful network, is now suddenly 100% on Starmer's side because Tony Blair has been banging this drum for a long time.
	And you might say, well, how do you know this is coming from the Tony Blair Institution?
	How do you know that this is Tony Blair's?
	Well, I can show you the linkage, actually.
	So here is Labour Together.
	This is, as they tell us, in Labour's wilderness years, Labour Together was founded by a group of MPs fighting to make the party electable again.
	Today it's a think tank offering bold ideas for Britain under a Labour government.
	And so we can have a look at some of the things they've done.
	Sorry, I just need to go back to the top of this just so you can see it because I want everyone to sit properly.
	Right, so you've got the Brit card, a progressive digital identity for Britain.
	As you can see, this is from Labour Together at the side, and it's written by Kirsty Inns, Morgan Wilde, and Lauren Boxhall.
	Shall we just have a quick search for Tony Blair Institute in this?
	To bridge the gap between the current arrangements and the fully functioning digital identity ecosystems, like organizations like the Tony Blair Institute have recommended the government should identify one or two significant use cases that are politically significant and potential to be blah blah blah to bring into thing.
	So it's called the Brit card because they've called it the Brit card and they are literally appealing to the Tony Blair project.
	And even Kirsty Inns is the director of technology at Labour Together.
	But as you can see, in 2019, she joined the Tony Blair Institute.
	Such a Tony Blair name as well, isn't it?
	Brit Card.
	Yes.
	Britpop called Britannium.
	Here is the Tony Blair Institute website with her as the director of public services policy.
	So she is not only the director of public services policy there, she's the director of technology at Labour Together.
	And suddenly you can see the precise linkage of how this comes together.
	This is Tony Blair's network, his entire NGO complex, getting behind Starmer because he's been desperate for this for a long time.
	Let me explain how he's been desperate for it for a long time.
	You can go back to, say, 2006, in which Tony Blair was arguing, yes, no, we absolutely should have digital ID cards and probably before that, but this is the first significant one from when he was in government, by the way.
	And there was a lot of pushback on that.
	And Tony Blair didn't care.
	He was just like, I don't care about the civil rights argument against ID cards.
	In fact, to give you his exact quote, he said that the scheme should go ahead as a question of modernity, not civil liberties.
	I love that.
	It's a simple question of modernity.
	I like the classic Blair framing.
	It is.
	Pragmatism.
	Any decent pragmatic.
	Exactly.
	It could possibly be against.
	And the argument that it's inevitable, this is going to happen.
	This is in the future.
	So get on board.
	Yeah.
	You're the home of civil liberties with a long, rich tradition of hundreds of years.
	No, no, no.
	That's gone.
	Yeah.
	I'm modern now.
	I mean, he literally says, quote, the civil liberties argument doesn't carry much weight.
	Okay, bro.
	What's your argument against it?
	Saying it's rubbish.
	I think you'll find the argument carries no weight.
	What?
	Where's your argument?
	No, I don't need one.
	Blair.
	Unironically.
	And so you've got him banging this drum for a long time.
	And then, of course, during the COVID pandemic, he was like, aha, we need health passports so you can travel around the world.
	And of course, that means you'll need digital passports to show you're vaccinated.
	Thanks, Tony.
	And then back in 2023, him and William Hague were like, yeah, you should just all have digital ID cards, by the way.
	We just need digital ID cards.
	And it's like, okay, this is a kind of repeated pattern.
	And then you've got the economic case for a digital ID card from the Tony Blair Institute.
	And it's like, oh, okay, we've got an economic case for it now.
	And what about just the disruption that the UK desperately needs?
	Things are stagnant.
	This was from last year.
	Things are stagnant.
	We just need disruption.
	And so we desperately need digital ID.
	So funny.
	It's about safety and pragmatism, but it's also about disruption.
	We're not done.
	Get tough on populism.
	The populists are rising.
	You know how to fix that?
	Digital ID.
	Well, that's ID.
	That's the most mask-off one yet.
	Yes, it is.
	Like with the politics we don't like, we can crush it with digital ID.
	Yes.
	We see you turn up at any sort of protest.
	The cops just stand there with the camera the whole time.
	That's one of the things they do, if you've ever been to one.
	Cops just stand there filming the patriotic side.
	So they got your face.
	We know who you are and you're under house arrest now.
	You've got no money.
	From the Tony Blair Institute, it's just time for digital ID.
	It's a new consensus for a state that works.
	Time for it to be.
	It's the only way to make the state work.
	It'll give us enormous benefits, is basically the thing.
	So you can see how the argument has evolved over time.
	Literally, whatever the problem is, the solution is digital ID.
	We just want digital ID.
	It'll stop the populace.
	It'll give economic growth.
	It'll stop the boats.
	It will do everything.
	We just need digital ID, bro.
	Just give me.
	It's like the ring with Gollum.
	Like, he's genuinely, this is like Gollum in the Ring.
	Like, no, I just need it.
	And it's like, okay, Tony, you're not getting it.
	The reason that he needs it is because this is the final crown jewel in the technocratic managerial regime.
	This is the thing that brings it all together.
	You've got mass surveillance, you've got constant digital footprint tracking.
	And then what we need is a database to see exactly who is in.
	So if you were like, if you were playing the game of civilization, like your SimCity or whatever, and you needed all this information to make everything work properly, this is the final piece of the puzzle.
	I thought of it as the final stone for Thanos or whatever.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	The final ring.
	It's whatever.
	You know what makes it for me just sort of clearly, clearly sinister is that, okay, Tony Blair wanted to push these policies and this scheme and stuff when he was in government.
	Okay, that's the perk of being in government, is you get to try and do what you want.
	Okay, fine.
	But when he's out of government.
	Oh, that's what the Tony Blair Institute is.
	Why are you, yeah?
	So why are you still pushing?
	You're already a senior statesman.
	You've already had your time in the limelight in government.
	You're already a multi-multi-millionaire, but you're still pushing that agenda super hard at every opportunity.
	Because why?
	Who's that for?
	No, no, I can answer that.
	I don't answer that.
	One last thing could you say.
	I don't believe that Tony Blair just genuinely loves the idea so much, just in and off himself, that he will spend untold time and energy on still pushing it years and years and years later.
	It's somebody else's agenda of which he is a willing tool, a willing tool.
	No, no, no, no.
	It's the global liberal international order.
	So it's not just Tony Blair.
	But he's a true believer in it, right?
	So the point being, to bring about the technocratic liberal order, you need certain things in place.
	And as we can see, that order is failing.
	It is currently in the middle of failing.
	And it's because there are too many civil liberties.
	It allows that the right wing is able to actually organize.
	They're actually able to coordinate.
	And so without this, this whole thing collapses.
	And we saw the speech that Kier Starmer gave, the full speech.
	I'll do another video or segment or something because it was really fascinating where he was literally saying, people are saying that our politics is failing.
	Dying.
	Dying.
	And he's right.
	And this is what Tony Blair's urgency is about.
	They can feel the sand slipping between their fingers.
	And if we just get this, then we can oppress everyone.
	We can remake the system in our image.
	And if we don't get it, then everything that Tony Blair has worked for for his entire adult life has failed.
	Yeah.
	It is desperation.
	It was a massive mask off moment, that thing.
	They say it's dying.
	It was like, oh, he's saying the quiet part out loud.
	He's admitting that they are dying.
	And it was a similar maskoff moment to, as heard Bill Gates about five years ago, say, no, there is a serious problem from nationalism.
	Like, they're worried about nationalism.
	They're worried about nationalist movements around the world versus their liberal global order things.
	And they're just saying it.
	And note the language about populism, which, of course, someone pointed out today, populism means democracy.
	Yes.
	And what they want, which they call democracy, means oligarchy.
	So they mask off not Democrat.
	Like, Blair's like, not in any way that.
	He's like, he just wants total top-down control, led by Blair, of course.
	And here's a digital ID.
	And we're against populism, which means what you used to have, your democratic civil liberties, that whole thing.
	They're basically saying that's gone.
	And we're going to end the battle now between what they call populism and the new thing that they want.
	But this is the inflection point between the sort of Blairite consensus of the 2000s and whatever the future looks like.
	This is the inflection point.
	This is the issue on which they are staking everything.
	They're going to try and get it done as soon as possible, try and normalize it to everyone so it's just an inevitable part of your lives.
	And so they can be like, yes, this is the entire beginning, the entire fruit of the project is contained within this one thing.
	Without this, the whole thing fails.
	Do you think it's also about either competing with or getting in league with China?
	And they basically said, okay, because these people just love China.
	They're like, oh, China.
	Well, they've found China having already.
	Right.
	And they've said they've found a way to do this.
	Sort of liberalism's over, as many people think.
	You know, basically the free market, as we've known it, is over.
	The idea of sort of free market capitalism and so on.
	And they've looking at these other models and they're going, oh, we like the Chinese model.
	That's the most successful, which it currently could be said to.
	Managerial technocracy.
	Yeah.
	And so they're just sort of saying, and if we, yeah, the sinister part is like, if we implement it, they can't get out of it.
	Yes.
	No, no, that's exactly the point.
	They want to create a system, a prison without walls that we cannot escape.
	And if we let this go through, that's what we'll have.
	And that is everything that's been driving Tony Blair.
	Because if this fails, his whole project has failed.
	Because everyone can see it's failing without being properly fully implemented.
	What would stop Farage getting rid of it?
	Or is he banking on people liking it?
	And maybe it does stop some boats or people because people are kind of weird.
	I don't think they're going to do that.
	But I think they're honestly at this point just kind of desperate.
	I think it's a Hail Mary.
	Are they thinking that people will actually like it when it comes in and not want Farage?
	Or are they thinking that Farage just won't be able to get rid of it when it's in order?
	I think they don't realize that things have gone too far.
	This needed to be implemented in the early 2000s so the right couldn't organize and grow to the skills.
	That's fair.
	Blair did try.
	All he knows is, as you said, to keep trying this.
	He must be taking orders from Satan ultimately because there's no one else.
	No one else would make you that bad.
	This is his life's work.
	I get that.
	Like the idea that he wants to protect his legacy absolutely makes sense.
	Perfect logical sense.
	We'll fail and his memory will be condemned to his.
	Maybe it's just me, but I feel like if I was in my 60s, I guess Blair's in his 60s now.
	He must be.
	If I was in my 60s, I'm very, very, very rich.
	He's very, very rich.
	His son is a multiple of money.
	But why would it power?
	But like, why would he be 72?
	Is he?
	I was 72 and already had decades in the limelight and was very, very, very rich.
	I just wouldn't be spending tons of time and energy over...
	He's got an incomplete plan that he's trying to...
	It's because he's motivated solely by power and you're not.
	And that he lives that, I mean, look at his book.
	I haven't actually read all of it yet, but I've read bits and it's like he just lives for power.
	He's motivated purely by evil.
	But for the sake of time, I'm afraid we can't.
	Sorry, carry on.
	That's all right.
	So everyone's against this.
	When I put this together earlier this morning, this was at 750,000 signatures.
	It's now nearly a million signatures.
	This has only been up for a day, not even a day.
	So you can see that just everyone hates this.
	Nearly a million people have signed this petition, and you should go and sign it too.
	You should go and go and sign the petition against digital ID cards.
	So they are at least aware that they are phenomenally outnumbered with who wants the digital ID card.
	Because this really is the last piece of the Blairite puzzle.
	We have to defeat this.
	And they definitely don't care about the numbers.
	As I said to you, they ignore the million marching in the Iraq war march, which I was on.
	They will ignore this, but you're saying do it anyway.
	Oh, yeah, but this is a lot more personal, right?
	It's like, oh, a million people marched in the Iraq war for abstract reasons that doesn't affect their daily life.
	This is going to affect your daily life.
	So go sign the petitions, go get involved.
	We have to break this.
	We have to be the generation that prevents this from coming in because this will be a hellish future that we are condemning our children to.
	So anyway, obviously you've got Rupert Lowe calling for mass non-compliance.
	The problem is, even if we are non-complying, it may be that they can build the system around us anyway.
	So the issue is one of political will.
	We have to have a government that destroys the system, basically.
	Thankfully, Farage has come out and said, I'm not having it.
	So the Prime Minister says we must have digital ID.
	That's the way we'll stop illegal immigration.
	Well, think about it.
	Germany has ID cards, strict ID and checks.
	It's made no difference at all in Germany and nor will it here.
	All that digital ID will be is a means of controlling the population, of telling us what we can and can't do, of finding the innocent.
	And didn't we see it all when we had the pandemic, when you had to have vaccine ID to travel, to do various things?
	Did that stop the COVID pandemic spreading?
	Did it hell?
	All it did was put cost and inconvenience on everybody else.
	I also worry about massive data banks being held by the government, being hacked by foreign governments, by private companies, by criminals.
	I do not see a single benefit to the government having digital ID other than them controlling what we do, what we spend, and where we go.
	And we in reform are wholly opposed to it in every single way.
	So basically, it is going to be Farage that saves us from this.
	That's good.
	Good on him.
	I know I throw shade at Farage.
	He's got lots of shade at France.
	That's brilliant.
	He didn't get the memo from the Bank of International Settlements on that.
	That was a great statement.
	And it's so far.
	It's not a hard one for him.
	He gets the ick about immigration, but this kind of thing is old school.
	Civil liberties, state Farage stuff.
	It's literally the most essentially English feeling.
	Everyone is revolted by this because this is the opposite of what England was for.
	Yeah, I mean, during COVID, it was disturbing how many people didn't have that English feeling and how many people were snitches and how many people were conformists.
	But digital ID seems to, or national ID even, seems to tap into our inherent revolt.
	Oh, yeah.
	Because it's so obviously, just so obviously going to be used against you.
	It's against our nature.
	The argument that you have to get the vaccine, otherwise you're killing grandma and granddad.
	If you're a credulous person, you could believe that.
	Okay.
	The ID cards is clearly going to just be weaponized against you immediately.
	It's just against our nature.
	In the way that Germany, it's not surprising that Germany would be a country that does have something like that because they love rules.
	They do love rules.
	They're not like that.
	But no, the Englishman expects a degree of privacy and to be the sovereign of his own life.
	If I have money, I'm going to spend it as I want.
	And it's not the government's business to get involved in that.
	It is not your business to intercede in who I hire, who I pay, who I do, whatever.
	And good on Farage, good on reform.
	Thank God we at least have someone waiting in the wings who's like, no, we're not going to have this in any way, shape, or form.
	Weirdly, the Liberal Democrats were on the right side of the issue.
	Can you believe it?
	For the first time in a long time, they can't support mandatory digital IDs.
	They shouldn't be criminalized.
	They don't want to hand over their private data.
	I mean, it's the thinnest, wishy-washiest sort of meh.
	But at least they're against.
	They were the same on vaccine passports.
	So they vary occasionally on these issues.
	They're okay.
	Yeah, the issues of state overreach.
	They have a very thin resistance.
	But then you have the leader of the SNP.
	I'm opposed to mandatory digital ID.
	People should go about their daily lives without such infringements.
	Like, okay, brother.
	Like, you know, like, I didn't realize that I'd be standing side by side with the SNP.
	I love that he hates it's called Brit card.
	He's like, I'm a Scot.
	Exactly.
	He's also an ethnat.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Like, his argument is, no, no, I'm not a Brit civic nationalist.
	I'm a blood and soil Scot says it.
	And it's like, oh, that's a return to form, isn't it?
	Okay, SNP.
	If you call it Scott card and put like, they would have fallen for it.
	That's one of their heroes on it.
	Yeah, they would have fallen for it.
	We have to rely on the Highland regiments to save us yet again.
	That's fine.
	So be it.
	We've got a long and glorious tradition.
	That's good.
	And even people like Clive Lewis, even the Labour left, were like, this is a bad idea and I oppose it.
	It's like, really?
	Clive Lewis is on the right side of an issue.
	Well, even Comrade Corbyn is on the right side of the issue.
	And again, he was against the passports.
	Corbyn occasionally pops up with one.
	But this is Corbyn's metaphorical Englishness.
	He can't help, but he is an Englishman, whether he likes it or not.
	He probably doesn't like it.
	Well, this also cleaves right to the heart of the matter as well, because Starma's got such a big majority, we will need a bunch of Labour MPs to not vote for it with the government.
	We will need that, because otherwise you can just get it through.
	It doesn't matter how many of the lib D. Exactly.
	We will need defects.
	The only weird framing from Corbyn is that this will make the lives of minorities even more difficult.
	Well, I don't make the minorities more difficult.
	They'll get the Brit card.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But yes.
	So, yeah, it's an affront to our civil liberties, which is correct.
	Yes, it's going to make them, which it won't.
	But it's excessive state interference and must be resisted.
	I'm with you 100% on this, Comrade.
	And then you have Billy Bragg on Question Time, like again, the radical Labour left, saying that they risk increasing discrimination against people not seen as a standard English person.
	They're illegal immigrants.
	Like the government's own thing is these illegal immigrants shouldn't be here.
	And he's like, well, you saying they're not standard English people?
	Yes.
	They're obviously not standard English people.
	Anyway, moving on.
	Yeah, so you've got Paul Mason, again, the sort of like deranged labor left who are like, Nigel wants the tax dodgers and scammers free to operate the Twilight economy.
	Right, so the Paul Masons of the world are for it.
	That's mad.
	Like, what an absolute insane communist you are.
	Jeremy Corbyn's against it.
	Can't you agree with him?
	He says, it'll protect the millions of ethnic Marathi Brits from his hate.
	What does that even mean?
	I have no idea.
	It doesn't make any sense.
	It's not making any sense now, Paul.
	That's the point.
	The pro argument is completely incoherent.
	There's no argument in favour of it.
	But then you've got William Haig.
	He loves it.
	Conservative grandee.
	Yeah, exactly.
	He wrote a shared letter with Tony Blair calling for it in 2023.
	He's like, this is exactly the right move.
	Now it's an important scheme done properly, as I argued in my column earlier this week.
	You are not a conservative then, are you?
	Is he actually at the Tony Blair Institute or is he just working with him?
	You know what, I did.
	I didn't check.
	I should have checked if he's a member of the Tony Blair.
	William Haig is one of those people that certainly did get the globalist memo.
	Yes, and he's completely in favour of immigration.
	He's completely in favour of digital ID.
	He's not a Tory.
	He's a traitor.
	Anyway, then you have to.
	Yeah, he's somehow involved in the institution.
	Of course he is.
	Then you had Kemi Badenock, who gave a very wishy-washy statement as if this wasn't the easiest thing to win on.
	There are arguments for and against digital ID, but mandating its use would be a very serious step that requires a proper national debate.
	It's like, no.
	Classic Kemi essay.
	Yeah.
	But no one.
	But no, in all counts, Kemi.
	As the leader of the Conservative Party, this is such an easy win.
	Just come down and go, no, Kier Starmer's a tyrant.
	Vote for us and we're going to overthrow this regime in its entirety.
	And for some reason, you're giving an equivocation.
	One of Kemi's mottos is never take an easy win.
	It's always like, well, we're not sure.
	We're thinking about it.
	You're not sure about leaving the ECHR still.
	You know what I mean?
	It's just all.
	Kemmy Badenock's job as leader of the opposition is to be an opposition.
	You would think.
	Which is not really the opposition.
	But it's such an easy win.
	But anyway, Liz Truss, we'll end with this.
	I know I've run over time, but this is quite a big, big deal, wasn't it?
	Liz Truss, I think, has a good take on this as well.
	Knowing what I know about government IT, it's highly unlikely that this terrible authoritarian scheme will be implemented by 2029.
	Yeah, incompetence will stop this happening.
	Yes.
	So if you're not from the country and you're wondering, why doesn't he look terribly crushed about this?
	Because I don't think they're going to be able to do it.
	I actually really agree with Liz Truss on this.
	I think they're just too incompetent.
	Too much opposition, too incompetent.
	Reformer coming in.
	Starmer's very weak.
	No chance.
	Exactly.
	What this is, is the desperate dying howls of the Blairite order that can't accept that it's time in the sun is done.
	Remember the pressure to get the vaccine passport through it?
	I remember it because I didn't take the vaccine.
	I was like, right, I'm never leaving the country again.
	Whatever you throw at me, I'll go to prison.
	But they never got it anywhere.
	Even though Andrew Neal's writing tough articles, Karen Brady, all these people, all these celebrities, it's like, no, no, they never got anywhere with the vaccine passport.
	My hope with this is that it will take at least a year, if not two, to go through various readings, various white papers, some sort of national debate.
	And in that window of time, a year, 18 months, two years, whatever it is, six months, whatever it is, it becomes clear that the general opposition is just too much for Starma and his government, and they abandon the plan.
	That's my hope.
	Does Blair have the power to just prop him up this?
	I'd say it's probably not.
	It's the biggest assault they've ever launched, but it's also the biggest opposition they'll also ever have.
	Yes.
	So anyway, there are loads of super chats, so I'm just going to have to summarize a bunch of them, I'm afraid.
	Thank you to everyone wishing us good luck because we're probably going to need it.
	So I really appreciate this.
	And loads of people are basically wishing us good luck.
	So I'm sorry I'm not going to have time to read them all out.
	I work in IT.
	I know exactly how these systems are built and abused.
	It's silencing inconvenient speech, nothing else.
	Yes.
	I will never get the digital ID and I'll take the consequences.
	Well, that's the thing.
	Like, we don't, basically, is my opinion, and I'm not going to.
	And people are saying they're enjoying the island of all.
	Well, that's good.
	Right, let's carry on.
	Again, sorry for running over there, but there was a lot going on there, wasn't there?
	Yes, I'll just redo my bit.
	Oops, yep.
	Which is, is Starmer finished?
	Very much continuing from the previous segment.
	And can Andy Burnham save Labour?
	So all the rumours are that Andy Burnham is going to have a shot at the Labour leadership.
	It's a great time for it.
	The party's doing really well.
	But is he actually going to do it?
	This guy, Tony Diver, did a big telegraph piece on it.
	And he basically says, well, yes, he is.
	Let's see if I can go to.
	Can't see it because the camera's in the way.
	Look at that.
	Everyone has asked him, which is, do you want to be Prime Minister?
	Do you want to lead the Labour Party?
	And are you going to challenge Kier Starmer?
	And he gave me a strange answer, which is to say, it's not really up to me.
	It's up to Labour MPs.
	It's up to people in Westminster.
	They're the ones who get to choose who the Labour Party leader is.
	So I said, okay, well, do any of them want you to do it?
	And he said, yeah.
	Actually, quite a lot of them have contacted me over the summer and said that they would like me to stand.
	So there we go.
	Those two answers together tell you one thing, which is that Burnham wants it.
	Yes.
	He certainly thinks the Labour MPs want it.
	Yeah, so Burnham was like, it's not really up to me, but they have all emailed me and said, definitely run.
	So he basically is running.
	But my question is, though.
	Standing.
	He needs to be an MP.
	Yes, I'm sorry to that.
	There's some problems.
	Yes, indeed.
	So that was the telegraph journalist Tony Diver who wrote this piece.
	No, not this.
	Oh, my thing's not working.
	Maybe I can go to the tab.
	Okay.
	Did I unplug the wrong one?
	No, I did unplug the wrong one.
	Anyway, he wrote this piece.
	Andy Burnham wants me to challenge MPs want me to challenge Starmer.
	So Burnham's framing it very much that the MPs want him to do.
	I'm a normal man being called to greatness.
	Yeah, yeah.
	What can I do?
	He also criticised Sir Keir directly, warning him that number 10 had created a climate of fear among MPs and accused his administration of creating alienation and demoralization within the party.
	So that is fairly unambiguous.
	Well, I mean, he kicked loads of people out of the party when he came in.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I know, obviously, Starmer's alienated lots of people in Labour.
	Total tyrant over the Labour Party and total tyrant over the country.
	What a shock.
	And asked if MPs had urged him to run.
	He said, people have contacted me throughout the summer.
	Yeah, I'm not going to say to you that it hasn't happened, but as I say, it's more a decision for me, for those people than it is for me.
	Is that working now?
	Yes.
	It is.
	Okay, brilliant.
	So it'll be very slick from now on.
	Anyway, that's the Tony Diver piece on whether he's running.
	And he basically definitely is.
	I mean, asked if he could rule out a leadership challenge.
	He said, life seems to be changing.
	And I don't know what's the will of people in Westminster.
	I'm at the Prime Minister's disposal to help.
	That was a brilliant quote.
	It's like, oh, look, I'm just at the, let's hear our life.
	Life finds a way, guys.
	Life seems to be changing.
	So the Labour conference next week is going to be very important because if Burnham comes up there and just gets the...
	You haven't seen Dark in an hour, but if he gets the dab on the head of the napkin, if he gets the vote of the people, it will become clear at the conference whether they're for him or not.
	A bit like when Farage went to the Tory conference, it was clear that everyone actually liked Farage better.
	But anyway, as you were saying, bro, the big question is, can he win?
	And he's also said, by the way, that he would be happy to do a coalition with the Lib Dems and Corbyn.
	That's another issue.
	But can he win a by-election?
	That is a great question.
	Because he's not an MP at the moment, as you say.
	So he'd have to become an MP again.
	So he needs a safe seat.
	But the question is, is there such a thing in this day and age?
	And Matthew Torby, who I've worked with on GB, has some thoughts on this.
	Is Andy Burnham the answer?
	He won't get a seat in Manchester because Reform will absolutely win any by-election in Manchester.
	No, there are four options for Andy Burnham, two of which Reform could never win, ever.
	They are far too safe even in this climate.
	And there are several seats that are available.
	If we were to.
	Is Burnham the hope?
	Yes, the only hope.
	Is he?
	The only hope.
	Does he beat Farage?
	I don't know.
	He's giving us nobody gives us half a search.
	Nobody gets a chance.
	I think he is the best political communicator on the left that would give us half a chance of.
	Who's the best political commentator or communicator on the right?
	George Flash.
	Simple as.
	He's the best political communicator in the country.
	I think where Andy Burnham could beat him is being authentically working class and understanding the issues affecting working class people.
	But he stood before and got battered.
	Yes, and he disappointed me.
	Because he tried to appeal to all sides and wasn't authentic, wasn't authentically himself and became an identic politician.
	I therefore went for Jeremy Corbyn.
	I was Andy Burnham through and through.
	That man got me into politics and saw something in me that he believed in.
	And that's why I would probably get the idea.
	Matthew, even he is saying it's half a chance against the mitre Farage if we get Burnham.
	But that's how he's claiming there's safe seats.
	Loads of people have made your point.
	There are no safe seats anymore.
	Well, he claims there are.
	It wasn't even necessarily that.
	I know that there are some very safe Labour seats still.
	I mean, one thing, just quickly aside, Burnham can beat Nigel on the amount of eyeliner wall.
	Right.
	So there's always that.
	But what it really is, though, is so a safe Labour MP has to just resign.
	Cynically, obviously, so that Burnham can then stand in a that triggered by-election.
	Yeah, but that happens all the time, doesn't it?
	They'll be pressured to do it, that person.
	Some people have said they won't do it after.
	It doesn't happen all the time.
	It happens sometimes.
	It can happen, but I don't know how.
	Someone will cynically just quit so that someone who isn't an MP can be parachuted in that happened with Rishi Sinek, didn't it?
	Like the guy in Richmond got pulled.
	In between elections, perhaps being more expensive.
	That's very common.
	But just in the middle of a parliament, someone says, oh, I just quit.
	I'm your MP.
	I quit.
	And then there is a by-election, but we want you to vote for the same party, though, so that this dude can be decided and it'll happen.
	I think.
	But I know what you mean.
	It would be irregular.
	It is a challenge for them.
	It'd be very cynical.
	It'll be very cynical, of course.
	You can probably find a die-harder to do it, though.
	But Burnham, but, Bo, they'll do it surely if it's shown that he can beat Farage and Starmer can't, which this poll seems to indicate.
	So Labour would take a two-point lead over Reform with Andy Burnham as a leader, new more in common polling shows.
	So there you go.
	So that's the key difference.
	They are losing to reform, but then magically in that poll with Burnham, they beat Reform.
	So he gets votes from the Tories, 1% from the Lib Dems, and 2% from the Greens.
	Well, I think they're sort of overestimating the ability of Andy Burnham.
	Appeal, yeah.
	Like, he's not that great.
	People don't love him that much.
	But also, the Labour Party itself is a bit of a tarnished brand in the same way that the Conservatives are.
	Everyone hates the Labour Party.
	There was a poll that came out, was it yesterday, where they were on like 17% and the Tories are on like 15%.
	Like, sorry, who the hell is still voting for the Labour Party at this point?
	And it would also mean if Andy Burnham took over from Keir Starmer in the middle of this parliament or towards the end of this parliament, what he does in that window leading up to the next generation, because if he does similar things, the Labour Party will be just as hated or fail at the ballot box just as much.
	Well, he's supposed to challenge Starmer for the leadership, win, and then do something completely different, so much so that the general electorate vote for him at the general election.
	That's not.
	That's why even Labour diehards are saying it's a half chance.
	Yeah, it's a long shot.
	It's a series of long shots.
	Well, that's the point, isn't it?
	The guy who's like, well, he's our last hope.
	It's like, really?
	Andy Burnham is the last hope of the entire Labour project since 1997.
	He was like, third string in their years, wasn't he?
	How have you got to this point?
	Yeah, but look how the Tories disintegrated.
	They had no talent left.
	But they followed the same trajectory, that Cameron was like, yeah, we're going to become a Blairite party.
	And so now William Haig and Tony Blair are locked arm in arm being like, guys, we need digital ID.
	And all it takes is someone like Nigel Farage, basically on his own, to go, I'm not going to do that.
	Their form of politics is dying.
	Exactly.
	Starmer claimed today it wasn't.
	Exactly.
	You look at some of the polls where reform are just crushing everything.
	They're coming almost like just a one-party union party.
	It just shows that it's the end of that era of politics.
	And just to be clear, right?
	I'm going to vote for Nigel Farage, and I strongly encourage you to vote for Nigel Farage.
	I've got many, many problems with Nigel, but we have to crush these two, right?
	Labour and Tories have to be crushed.
	That's just the way it is.
	And Farage is the weapon to do that.
	I'm not thrilled with it, but it's got to be.
	Yeah, and it's not surprising that...
	If things change, then things change, but at the moment...
	Oh yeah, it's an interesting point because you might not have said that before.
	I mean, I've been very critical.
	Yeah, no, I'm very critical of him.
	Yeah.
	But there's no other, no one else is going to win.
	And look at what they're trying to do.
	They want to bring digital ID.
	Farage is like, no, I'm against that.
	Great.
	It has to be him now.
	Yeah.
	It's just a question of hoping they can actually deport people and be base, which we live in hope.
	I'm just hoping Rupert will still start a party in United States.
	Well, yeah, me too.
	But, you know, I think things are too emotional for that now.
	Anyway.
	Yeah, well, anyway, it's no surprise that Starmer is doing so badly in the polls because you see he is, just to recap, he is completely falling apart.
	Starmer's head of communication, Steph Driver, quit in latest number 10 exit.
	And this, of course, is on top of the Mandelson, Mandelson going, of that guy Ovendon going, obviously Rayner going, and McSweeney, rumours of Sama shouting at McSweeney, you're supposed to protect me, which just sounds hilarious.
	Isn't McSweeney under some sort of investigation fund like embezzling £750,000?
	£40,000, yeah, exactly.
	She's a big deal.
	She's the equivalent of Alistair Campbell.
	your head of communications in number 10 is an absolutely pivotal role.
	I see McSweeney as the Campbell, or maybe McSweeney's the Cummings and she's the Campbell, yeah.
	Yeah, maybe it's the.
	Or head of communications, chief of staff.
	She's the one who projects the message out to the public.
	That's what she's in charge of doing.
	So losing that person, that's a bit bad.
	A little over a week after that, director of policy strategy.
	So it ain't good.
	It ain't good.
	The wheels are coming off of the Starmer regime.
	Yeah, indeed.
	This is what I mean with the digital ideas being the Hail Mary.
	You can think things are falling apart.
	There's challenges coming within the Labour Party.
	They're like, right, we need to get the Blair Institute on board.
	Digital ID.
	It's like, you're just, that is the end.
	You can drive yourselves into the ground.
	Labour does absolutely feel like it's a cornered feral animal with nothing left to lose apart from to strike out with everything it's got left.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Hopefully it kills the party finally.
	Sorry, Karen.
	Just because no, just because I'm a normie from mainstream television news, a veteran really, I thought we'd look at, you know, who is Andy Burnham?
	What are his policy ideas?
	It's kind of a mainstream piece.
	And so Burnham, he was in Brown's cabinet.
	He was once a Blairite.
	Now he's sort of socialist soft left.
	He ran for leader in 2015.
	That describes Brown.
	Yeah, true.
	He was ahead, but then he got fairly trounced by Corbyn.
	And his pitch was pretty vague, as actually Matthew Torbett suggested earlier.
	Because I love this bit where his announcement, where is it?
	Oh, yeah.
	His announcement involved the promise to rediscover the beating heart of labour and appeal to the aspirations of everyone.
	It's the most like vague nothing.
	So that was a bit of a problem with his pitch, whereas Corbyn was a bit clearer in his beliefs.
	So then he became king in the north.
	They actually say king of the north, but in Game of Thrones, it's king in the north by becoming mayor of Manchester.
	And he won that convincingly three times, to be fair to him.
	And so they like him up there.
	And if you want to understand him, this new statesman piece is pretty good, which is Andy Burnham's plan for Britain.
	And I'm not actually going to scroll around it because it's too big and complicated.
	I'll piss around and discroller.
	But basically, he is born in Aintree, which is Liverpool pretty much.
	But he moved to Colcheth, which is more considered Manchester, though it's about equidistant between them.
	So basically, there's an anecdote in here where he goes to the football.
	It's Everton versus Man City.
	And the city fans start chanting, you scouse bastard, to which the Everton fans reply, you mank bastard.
	So he's hated by both, but he's also potentially loved by both in that big sort of northern area.
	If you ever sort of gone across the area in the northwest, and I'm obviously 52.2% Northwestern in my DNA, so I understand all this.
	This is a big, massive area with loads of houses there.
	It's Warrington sort of area.
	And there's a lot of people there, and they do like Burnham.
	As the piece says, he's chauffeur from office to home, from visit to visit, as if he's prime minister of the north.
	And there's all these people stopping him to chat and things like this.
	And so in that northern world, he's loved.
	And something quite or loved by many, something quite strange, he says, is that he identifies as British first, Northwest second, Liverpool third, and English fourth.
	So to keep the different layers of his identity.
	That's quite strange, isn't it?
	I can't help but notice he's got very scouse physiognomy as well.
	Yes.
	He looks like a scouter.
	That's true.
	So it can't be easy in Manchester, Variant.
	He's got Irish roots as well from his grandparents.
	And he's like, as many scouts have.
	But British first, Northwest, second.
	Because I always think of myself as Lakes First, Cumbria, North England, Britain.
	But that's concentric.
	It makes sense.
	Britain, Britain, North West, Liverpool, English.
	I'm like, this is all over the place.
	But anyway, that's how it is.
	I'm very, very firmly Southeast, but I just consider myself an Englishman first and foremost.
	And not much else.
	Yeah, same except.
	I might say Northern, but yeah, I could drill down into it if I needed to.
	Why would I?
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Yeah, I see myself as English.
	It's this weird thing about Britain.
	So he wants to go back in the EU.
	He's pretty clear about that.
	It says he likes unions, including the one the UK had until recently with the continent, a union he hopes is eventually restored.
	Of course he does.
	And he even says it says Burnham wants Labour to make a stronger argument about Brexit having been a mistake.
	So that's very, very clear.
	And it obviously plays simply against Farage, Mr. Brexit.
	And loads of people still want to go back in.
	I know these people.
	I play football with them.
	Burnham wants to see a complete overhaul of asylum policy, not leaving the ECHR, but ending the system in which asylum seekers are settled around the country by the Home Office, which he describes as atrocious and dangerous.
	So what are we doing?
	Putting him in a concentration camp?
	I'm not quite sure, but he's right that it's dangerous.
	Yeah, it doesn't say.
	And he was a disciple of Blair and Brown.
	That's it still is, essentially.
	That's all you need to know.
	That's all you need to know.
	And where's eyeliner?
	Sorry, does he wear eyeliner or not?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	You're not noticed.
	He does look like he is, but the thing is.
	Sometimes you just people look like that.
	Sometimes people used to say that to me at school.
	Yeah, I wasn't.
	I got it.
	I just have thick eyelashes.
	Yeah, so let's find out on that.
	Do some deep research, bro.
	He wants proportional representation.
	He says the idea of a government elected on a minority of the vote is untenable.
	So that's fairly radical.
	He wants maximum devolution to England's regions, which I'm not sure means actual devolution, just more power to the north and so on, which is convincing allow the state to control the amount of spending on welfare and social housing.
	And it may as well just be Blair speaking.
	Yeah, he wants a mansion tax.
	He wants to change the council tax ban.
	He's never had an original thought.
	So it's about a commie.
	Got it.
	Yeah, and the other thing is, you say he's a commie, but is he the new trust?
	Because the scale of borrowing he's talking about is already spooking the market.
	So Financial Times, Andy Burnham's borrowing plans would spook guilt market investors'war.
	So some people, I've even seen pictures.
	I didn't.
	It was too disturbing to put on the screen of him as trust in a kind of mashup.
	But people are worried about his 40 billion that he wants here to build council houses alongside a mass nationalization programme.
	So they're worried already.
	We got 40 billion just under the couch cushions, do we?
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's a great question.
	Where's this money going to come from?
	So he's just another labour guy who doesn't understand spending.
	And I quite like the quote here where someone said it was a...
	I can't find it.
	It's about, let me see if I can find it.
	We need to borrow tens of billions so we can nationalize stuff.
	Yeah.
	Good plan.
	So we can build houses for foreigners.
	And even Starmer has basically said, no, no, this won't work.
	Here's the quote I liked.
	Burnham downplayed such concerns.
	We've got to get beyond this thing of being in hot to the bond markets.
	One ally of Starma said, it's like telling someone on a ledge not to worry about gravity.
	So, yeah, we can't just not worry about the bond markets.
	And the bond markets are worse than when Truss was in charge anyway.
	So, like, things are as bad as worse than they've ever been.
	But, anyway, yeah.
	And if they do, you know, obviously, he'll fix nothing if they win, but we couldn't afford his spending plans anyway, is the point.
	Those are just an overview of his policies.
	But as you say, Bo, and as Nick Buckley put it quite well here, oh, no, that's Tom Slater.
	Oh, well, well, fair.
	Tom Slater made an interesting point that he Burnham claims to be like, oh, I'm not really Mr. Westminster, blah-de-blah.
	But actually, he is much more Westminster than he claims, as you've also said.
	Andy Burnham, a man who was so alienated by Westminster, he worked in it for 20 years.
	No ideology beyond his own career advancement, but he says lad a lot and wears jeans.
	So obviously, he's a breath of fresh air.
	I think a lot of it is that people in the Westminster bubble have never seen a northerner and they're just sort of baffled by it.
	Where's Angela Reiner for him from?
	True, but she didn't do very well.
	She's gone.
	So he's the new norm there.
	They've only got two.
	One of them's gone.
	Yeah, yeah, true.
	Anyway, but he does play a lot on the northern thing.
	But as you point out, Bo, and Nick Buckley says, a Blairite, Brownite, a Corbinite and a Starmite walk into a Manchester bar.
	The barman asks, What are you having, Andy?
	So he's been all of them at one time or another.
	And he still says he'll work with Corbyn.
	So it's like, well, what are you, Andy?
	Apart from an affable bloke with a pint and eyeliner.
	No, he won't leave the ECHR, he says.
	Right.
	Smart radical.
	So nothing will change.
	So he's got no intention of stopping us being invaded.
	Yeah.
	So therefore, he's an enemy, as far as I'm concerned.
	So I don't care that he's reasonably affable.
	And he's just going to carry on.
	I'm not sure he's aimed at you.
	He's just carrying on the Labour agenda as well.
	It's more of the same, right?
	He's Blair and Brown to the core.
	With an additional thing, which is the northern loyalty, which I can tell you as a northerner, is pretty fierce.
	I mean, to this day, I think of my home as the Lakes.
	I've lived in London nearly 20 years.
	It's like we are totally ridiculously tribal.
	Think about how tribal Liverpool is.
	It's virtually a separate communist country.
	And Manchester, not quite as crazy, but still very fiercely sort of wear Manchester.
	So he will get big votes in the north because that's just northern loyalty.
	It's just how it is.
	So that is an advantage to the people.
	Can he overcome the southern prejudice?
	Probably not.
	There we go.
	I hate to say it's been in the interest of time.
	I've got to move on.
	I'll just very quickly end then because someone, on your point, the big issue of Andy Burnham is that he's a political equivalent of this haircut attempted, accepted in Manchester, but it's an object of ridicule everywhere else.
	I don't understand why Mancunians have haircuts like this.
	They have coats because it's always raining.
	They have like really white trainers they're proud of, and they have this haircut.
	Did Oasis do this to them?
	It's poor well at that.
	Yeah, that pool where Noel Gallagher.
	Yeah, it's like I've only ever associated that haircut with Oasis.
	I don't understand why they do it.
	It's weird, isn't it?
	And anyway, in closing, because we've got to end, I'm from the north.
	I say I'm not an MP and I don't understand economics.
	I think I have a decent chance of becoming Labour leader.
	That's all I'm saying.
	That's all you need these days.
	Not even an MP, as you said.
	All right, that's my bit.
	Good luck to you.
	Right, sorry.
	Pass the mouse over a second because I will quickly go through a couple of super chats that have come in.
	To view Farah, I tend to view Farrow as a bit like Admiral Kolchak, isolated, flawed, bad at making and keeping allies, but still enormously preferable to the Bolsheviks.
	Yes, that's basically it, isn't it?
	But yeah, apparently Raja Mia says he has evidence of Andy being involved in the cover-up, the Grimm gangs.
	No idea, but I'm sure it will come out if and when it does.
	And put the handbags away.
	What are you talking about?
	Like, Bo's criticism of his eyeliner is completely legitimate.
	He's gone.
	There's some pictures of Andy Burnham where it's like, dude, are you same with J.D. Vance?
	Yeah.
	They're probably not.
	They've probably just got really thick eyelashes, but it looks like we can do.
	All right.
	So, have you heard that former FBI director Jim Comey has been indicted on a couple of different counts by a grand jury in America?
	Have you seen this?
	Have you heard about this?
	So is this Trump actually doing something against his political enemies?
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	I heard a lot of people complaining that actually he wasn't going after his enemies.
	Well, not quickly enough.
	So one of the things he said recently did a tweet on Truth Social saying, giving Pam Bondi the hurry-up.
	Oh, here we go.
	So yeah, this was only a few days ago, a couple of days ago.
	He says, Pam, I've reviewed over 30 statements and posts saying that essentially at the Justice of Department of Justice, same old story as last time, all talk, no action, nothing is being done.
	What about Comey, Adam, Shifty Shift, Letitia?
	They're all guilty as hell.
	And then it's Trump in this is they're all guilty as hell, but nothing is going to be done.
	Then we almost put in a Democrat.
	Well, he goes on to talk about how the Department of Justice isn't taking down the likes of Comey and Schiff.
	Right.
	So get your ass in gear.
	But this is great because it shows us exactly what the problem is, right?
	Because a lot of people in the activist space are like, Trump isn't actually persecuting his opponents.
	Why not?
	We want him to actually go after them.
	And Trump himself is like, why are we not persecuting our opponents?
	Why aren't we going?
	So the problem is obviously the layer in between.
	So he's basically threatening, look, do it by tomorrow or fire you.
	That's what he should be doing.
	Almost sort of threatening her or chiding her.
	Yeah, possibly.
	Get it done, get it done.
	In front of millions of people.
	And so a grand jury, which, you know, we don't have grand juries in Britain, but it is a jury in the sense that it's a bunch of normal people, just completely normal citizens.
	So the idea that somehow Trump has got Comey on trial, it's like, well, not really.
	He can put pressure on Pam Bondi and she can instigate a grand jury.
	But then ultimately, it's up to these normal people to decide whether Comey's got questions to answer or not out of full trial.
	And they decided it was.
	Great.
	So anyway, he came out.
	Let's watch a few seconds of what his sort of response to this was.
	My family and I have known for years that there are costs to standing up to Donald Trump.
	But we couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way.
	We will not live on our knees.
	And you shouldn't either.
	Somebody that I love dearly recently said that fear is the tool of a tyrant.
	And she's right.
	But I'm not afraid.
	And I hope you're not either.
	I hope instead you are engaged, you are paying attention, and you will vote like your beloved country depends upon it, which it does.
	My heart is broken for the Department of Justice, but I have great confidence in the federal judicial system, and I'm innocent.
	So let's have a trial.
	Didn't you spy on Trump's campaign?
	Yeah, you're probably not innocent.
	Almost certainly not innocent, but okay.
	Okay, James, if you say so.
	All right, so what is it actually that he's being charged with and stuff like that?
	So it's one count of making false statements and another of obstruction of justice.
	So it's basically lying under oath, perjury.
	When he was speaking to Congress in September 2020, he stood by statements he'd made a few years earlier, and it seems like those were liars.
	Right, okay.
	So that's a type of perjury, or it's just lying under oath, misleading.
	Well, sorry, obstruction of justice and false statements.
	So even if he is found guilty of this, he will only be looking, I say only, but he's looking at something like five years, not like 20 years.
	Not the end of the steel, but it's something.
	But yeah.
	So, okay, where to begin the story?
	Because it is a bit of a sordid, winding and wending story.
	How do we get to this place?
	Well, it goes all the way back to Trump's first attempt to become president in 2016.
	If you remember, there was a thing, crossfire hurricane, they called it.
	Remember the steel dossier?
	i.e.
	Pistosa.
	Yeah.
	I.e.
	Obama and Hillary and perhaps probably James Comey sitting in a room saying, how are we going to destroy Trump?
	How are we going to make sure Hillary wins in 2016?
	How are we going to destroy him?
	And so actually, with some of the help of British intelligence services, they come up with the Steele dossier.
	Christopher Steele.
	Talk about incompetence, by the way.
	Yeah, that worked, didn't it?
	He won twice and started a whole lot.
	He did it two to three times.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And just a slight aside, but isn't crossfire hurricane such a boomer thing to call it?
	Anyway, that's of no real importance.
	Makes you think of like cross-swords.
	Eric, you can just imagine like Hillary Clinton going, let's call it Crossfire Hurricane.
	And Obama going, yes, love it.
	We're going to take him down.
	Okay, so in that, you know, Comey was sort of a key party.
	He was the head, he was Obama's head of the FBI.
	He was at the top of the FBI.
	So if anyone was going to essentially, you can imagine that Hillary and Obama say to him, Comey, get stuff on Trump.
	And if there isn't anything, make it up.
	essentially essentially this was very much i just remember trump turning on him but this being like very much the era where trump was working with all his enemies because he didn't really understand yes the system That 2016 first term.
	Because he left Comey in charge of the FBI for a while when he was in his first term, didn't he?
	A little bit, yeah, it was months before he actually got around to it.
	That should have been day one.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And notice in the second term, Cash Patel like straight away in.
	He immediately put his guys in charge, understanding that you just can't leave the previous ones in.
	And so to continue the narrative, once Trump gets in, it was a few weeks or months before he got rid of Komey, but then he got rid of Comey.
	Comey becomes like an arch going on like the view and stuff and just constantly caning Trump.
	But okay, you can expect that, I suppose.
	But then so Mueller, Robert Mueller, there was that report that took ages to come out to find out, was there anything true to the Steele dossier and all that sort of thing?
	Was Trump truly sort of some sort of Putin-Manchurian candidate?
	Russia, Russia.
	Yeah.
	And Mueller comes out and eventually says basically there's nothing there, you know, which was a real pain to the MSNBC, CNN types.
	You know, like a brand new.
	Rachel Maddow most affected.
	Yeah, Rachel Maddow most effective.
	Yeah.
	And then after that, there's the Durham-John Durham investigation.
	So like, if there was nothing there, how did any of this even really happen?
	And they go into that and he sort of a little bit wishy-washy in my opinion, says, yeah, the FBI probably should have realized they were dealing with duff information and we'll leave it at that rat.
	And by now it's all by this time, nearly, there's like, well, obviously during the Biden years, they don't prosecute Comey and others like him because of course they don't because it's Biden's.
	He's their guy.
	Obviously.
	But now we're back in second Trump.
	We're now in 47.
	So he's going after it.
	And even then, Bondi and the like were like dragging their feet, taking their feet.
	So he had to actually sort of, you know, push on it a bit.
	So we've got a cash patel here saying today, I think this was only yesterday, or is it even today?
	Yesterday, Patel comes out and says, today your FBI took another step in its promise of full accountability for far too long, previous corrupt leadership and their enablers, weaponized federal law enforcement, damaging once proud institutions and severely eroding public trust every day.
	You get it, you go on and on.
	And Bondi made a similar sort of noises.
	No one is above the law.
	Today's indictment reflects this Department of Justice's commitment to holding those who abuse positions of power accountable for misleading the American people.
	We will follow the facts in the case.
	Okay.
	Great.
	So, yeah.
	Great.
	Like, actually, something's happening.
	Beginning to drain the swamps.
	Yeah.
	Something's actually happening to the people who did something wrong.
	Yeah.
	Fantastic.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So it was a series of memos, Mr. Comey detailing his conversations with Trump were disclosed to the media in 2017.
	So he went before a congressional committee in 2017 and just basically didn't really tell the truth.
	I mean, let's watch a few seconds of this just to give you an idea.
	Oops, what happened there?
	Can we get that back up, please, Samson?
	Get that back up, please, Simpson.
	You solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God.
	Please receive it.
	Do you have any doubt that Russia attempted to interfere in the 2016 elections?
	None.
	There should be no fuzz on this whatsoever.
	The Russians interfered in our election during the 2016 cycle.
	They did it with purpose.
	They did it with sophistication.
	They did it with overwhelming technical efforts.
	And it was an active measures campaign driven from the top of that government.
	There is no fuzz on that.
	It's not about Republicans or Democrats.
	They're coming after America, which I hope we all love equally.
	They want to undermine our credibility in the face of the world.
	They think that this great experiment of ours is a threat to them.
	And so they're going to try to run it down and dirty it up as much as possible.
	That's what this is about.
	And they will be back because we remain as difficult as we can be with each other.
	We remain that shining city on the hill.
	And they don't like it.
	After that briefing, you felt compelled to document that conversation that you actually started documenting it as soon as you got into the car.
	I was honestly concerned that he might lie about the nature of our meeting.
	And so I thought it really important to document.
	This was the only president that you felt like in every meeting you needed a document because at some point, using your words, he might put out a non-truthful representation of that meeting.
	right center and i i okay so So this is the crux.
	Out of the many liars and the many sort of probably criminal things that James Comey has done, the thing that they're getting him on here is that back in that window in 2016, 2017, he had meetings with Trump.
	And then he went on to tell someone, probably McCabe, his deputy.
	He went on to tell some people what was being said.
	And they leaked it to the press.
	And then later, he said he didn't do that.
	Right.
	And that's a liar.
	I mean, again, out of all the lies.
	Very trivial.
	Right.
	To me, you always sound suspect when you start going, look, that shining city on the hill.
	And all this sort of rubbish.
	Like, just give us the facts.
	Why are you giving us a weird little seminar about you at Lame Bugs?
	Also, being like the Russians are like, you know, the experts in digital warfare and all this.
	It's like, are they that good, though?
	I'm not sure they're that good.
	There's all sorts of other details about Michael Flynn, and we won't get into it, but Reuters put it quite well under an article they wrote.
	Well, what is Comey actually accused of lying about?
	They said, U.S. prosecutors alleged Comey made false statements when he stood behind 2017 Senate, so it's a Senate testimony in which he said he did not disclose or approve the disclosure of information in the news media, the FBI investigations into either Trump or his 2016 opponent, Hillary Hillary Clinton.
	And in 2020, he said, I stand by the testimony you summarized that I gave in May 2017.
	Boom.
	That's wrong.
	That's sort of they, the federal government, Pan Bondi's Department of Defense, are pretty sure that's a liar.
	And we can get you on that.
	Okay.
	So that's what it is.
	That's what's going on here.
	That's what's going on here.
	So, I mean, people, Trump's quite funny.
	He just calls him like he's a sick man.
	He's sick.
	He's a bad man.
	Got another clip here.
	I think it's worth just watching.
	It's not very long.
	But this, so this is from, this is the 2020 thing.
	It's being done remotely because we're in the middle of COVID.
	But let's just watch.
	This is the crux of it.
	You turn it up, please, Samson.
	Or a member of his administration asked the FBI to investigate the Trump campaign, your answer would be not only no, but hell no.
	Did President Obama or Vice President Biden ever ask you to investigate a political rival or to go easy on a political rival?
	Never.
	Why would that have been problematic?
	Because it would compromise the independence of the Justice Department and the FBI's work.
	If it's a criminal case or a counterintelligence case, it would introduce politics into what should be a fact-driven process.
	Oh, are you concerned that Trump will embrace and use Russian interference efforts to his advantage, excuse me, as he did in 2016?
	Well, I'm a private citizen now, so as a private citizen, yes.
	And he said that he would.
	How could the director of the FBI not know all of this?
	How is it possible that the system gathers so much exculpatory information?
	So he's asking, how did you not know that the Steele dossier was bullshit?
	How did you know?
	Internet rumor according to the CIA that the actual interview of the sub-source disavows the reliability document, that the actual sub-source was a spectral Russian spy.
	How could all that happen and not get up to you, the director of the FBI, of one of the most important investigations in the history of the FBI?
	How is that possible?
	I can only speculate because it didn't.
	And as I said, the investigation overall was incredibly important.
	The piece you're focused on is obviously important, but a much smaller slice.
	Okay.
	So, I mean, it's a pretty flimsy thing, isn't it, really?
	So, a tiny bit more detail just on the actual charges, and then we'll talk about the wider implications of all of this.
	The BBC says, The first count relates to Mr. Comey telling the Senate Judiciary Committee that he had, quote, authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports, quote, regarding his conversations with Trump over the FBI investigation into whether Russia meddled with the 2016 presidential election.
	The second count alleges that Mr. Comey, quote, did corruptly endeavor to influence, obstruct, and impede the Senate Judiciary Committee investigation by making false statements in it.
	So, again, a type of perjury, just lying under oath.
	All right.
	So, yeah, I guess the wider thing to talk about then is because all the everyone's crawling out of the woodwork, people like Schumer, Chuck Schumer, everyone on the left, saying this is just Trump acting as a tyrant.
	This is simply like law affair going too far.
	Sorry, do you not remember the four years of lawfare you conducted against Trump and all of his allies?
	Bannon went to jail.
	Who was the other guy who went to jail?
	Navarro, there was another guy as well that I was thinking of.
	Well, Rudy Giuliani was in some sort of Rudy Giuliani was attacked.
	Roger Stone, and that was it.
	That's what I've heard.
	When they raided Mar-a-Lago.
	Yeah, they raided Mar-a-Lago for the same crime that Biden had done.
	It was like good fellows when they just backed Robert the New York moment, just go whack them all.
	And then you've got the New York Attorney General who was going after his properties.
	That's right, yeah.
	And so the idea that they can be like, well, I mean, this is just lawfare.
	It's like, yeah, well, I mean, maybe it is, but who did this first?
	And also, right, who did it first?
	Sure, absolutely.
	But even more sort of at the core of it is, do you go after people that broke the law and did the wrong thing?
	Like this idea, this consensus that you just simply don't go after people that held high office after the fact because it's sort of it's just not gentlemanly.
	It's not cricket.
	It's just not how we do it.
	It's un-American.
	No, no.
	Bullshit.
	Well, that's off the table.
	You broke.
	Yeah, you took that off the table.
	But also, no, if people did something really, really bad and illegal, they should be held to account for it.
	Yes, I mean.
	I'm afraid.
	It's as simple as that.
	Not controversial at all.
	Let's see what Dr. Doctor.
	It seems like an indictment of James Comey is imminent.
	Would this be the first step in accountability for pushing the hoax of Russia, Russia, Russia, along with Barack Obama involved as well?
	Well, I can't tell you what's going to happen because I don't know.
	You have very professional people headed up by the Attorney General, Todd Blanche, and Lindsey Halligan, who's very smart, good lawyer, very good lawyer.
	They're going to make a determination.
	I'm not making that determination.
	I think I'd be allowed to get involved if it wants, but I don't really choose to do so.
	I can only say that Comey's a bad person.
	He's a sick person.
	I think he's a sick guy, actually.
	He did terrible things at the FBI.
	I agree.
	But I don't know.
	I have no idea what's going to happen.
	Okay.
	I won't get involved, but he's a sick guy.
	Exactly.
	Neo and Realist has sent us a super chat which summarizes the thing perfectly.
	Comey testified to Cruz that he didn't authorize leaks.
	Andrew McCabe says Comey ordered him to leak.
	So one of them is lying because they both can't be telling the truth.
	And so that's it.
	Yeah.
	So is sort of the, again, I suppose sort of the wider wider question, the wider debate, is about whether Trump is becoming, or that's what the left want to try and make this out into.
	Is Trump becoming like a solotype?
	Yes.
	Well, you Marians began the prescriptions.
	So, oh no, now our opponents have come back and they're prescribing us.
	Oh, well, who started that?
	The funny thing is there's a statute of limitations on Comey's alleged crimes that was going to be up on Tuesday, next Tuesday.
	So, in other words, the Department of Justice left it right up to the bell.
	Yeah.
	And they went, nope, we're going to get, you thought you'd be able to get away with it.
	Nope.
	That's probably why Trump was putting loads of pressure.
	I mean, he did put quite a lot of pressure on.
	So this is, the case is being brought against Comey in Virginia, as I understand it.
	And he, I think personally, I think Oprah has said that he removed the prosecutor there, the federal prosecutor that was going to not bring charges against Comey.
	He removed them and put his own pick in there to sort of make sure it happened.
	And then lent on Bondi to some degree to sort of make sure it happens, you know, before the Statute of Limitations is up.
	But the other thing to sort of talk about is whether this is sort of just kind of the beginning again, whether he will go after Adam Skiff and Letitia Schiff, Letitia James, and a number of other people.
	Hillary Clinton.
	Why is she in jail?
	Is this him truly now beginning to...
	Didn't he call Obama a traitor?
	He said Obama are committing treason, right?
	Okay, well, why is he still free?
	I think Obama as an ex actual president has got various protections.
	Probably.
	But nonetheless, everyone's short of Obama.
	Is this Trump now finally, after his promises all the way back in 2016 to drain the swamp?
	He's actually draining the swamp now.
	He's actually beginning to drain the swamp.
	He seems to genuinely want them all to go down, doesn't he?
	Yeah.
	So he needs to get his administration in gear.
	He says, you know, they did it to me.
	Yeah.
	They did it to me.
	Justice must be served.
	Yeah.
	So basically, Mr. President, you're going to have to fire the people who aren't doing it and put more radical people in charge.
	It's just how it's going to have to be if they're not going to do it.
	And the thing is, you probably would have to start, well, you kind of do have to start with the FBI to some degree.
	Yes.
	Because a lot of things sort of radiate out from the FBI.
	And in my opinion, I've said this before, the FBI is as dirty as it gets.
	The idea that they're above politics in some way, no, no, no.
	They have always, from day one, from Jacob Hoover, day one, have been a tool of the establishment.
	Wasn't the 100?
	The FBI just created by executive fiat as well.
	Something like that, yeah.
	It's not in the Constitution, obviously.
	No, right.
	Yeah, the Founding Fathers said nothing about the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
	I'm reasonably sure it was just done by an executive order.
	It was like the Red Scare or the Second Red Scare or whatever it was.
	They've got so many of these things.
	It's not just FBI, is it?
	You've got the NSA and all that.
	You've got loads of these things for the previous regime.
	Well, I had loads more to say in general about the FBI about what a sort of a cesspit it is.
	What a truly sort of dangerous thing.
	An unconstitutional thing, I think.
	I said that once before on here, and nearly all the comments were like, yeah, like from Americans.
	It was like, yeah, we hate the FBI.
	Oh, yeah, the Americans.
	We hate living under the tyranny of the FBI.
	Americans are, they do not have like scales in front of their eyes when it comes to all of this.
	They know.
	Yeah.
	I mean, so one last thing out of a million things I could mention about how bad and dirty the FBI are.
	Recently, it was disclosed here that rank-and-file FBI agents after January 6th claimed political bias, infected operations, feeling like quote, pawns in a political war.
	Well, I guess that's because you were in the crowd encouraging people to go into the bloody thing, or you're working for Twitter, encouraging them to take down posts that were critical of Biden or against COVID or whatever it is.
	Like, you've been an active agent of the Democrat Party for years.
	We could list off just thing after thing that the FBI has done.
	Oh, good, yeah, yeah.
	And according to disclosure.tv, according to an after-action report held within held from withheld from the public for over four years, that the FBI had 274 plainclothes agents embedded in the January 6th.
	Oh, there are no.
	Wow.
	I didn't know it was that many.
	I knew about Fay Eps.
	I didn't know there were 274 of them.
	And there are so many FBI honeypots where they turn out to mostly be FBI agents.
	It's just like feds on feds.
	And then you've got the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, which is just essentially an entire FBI plot that was.
	I'm correct about that, right?
	There's an argument to be made.
	So it's like, yeah, these things have been on YouTube.
	There's a whole stream.
	I'm very suspicious about the Las Vegas shooter and his.
	Well, yeah, I mean, there's so many examples.
	What happened to him?
	Where's that?
	Many examples.
	But okay, it looks like Comey is definitely going to go on trial.
	Great.
	And he, if found guilty, which is actually, as I understand it, it's actually quite a hard case for the prosecutors to prove because it's just a my word versus someone else's word.
	But if he fails, he could get five years in prison.
	And he's the first FBI or ex-FBI director ever to be put up on charges like this.
	This is what kind of prison, isn't it?
	If it was one of those really like low-security ones where you play tennis, or is it one of those because Obama put Dinesh D'Souza in prison, remember?
	Did he?
	I didn't know that.
	Yeah, but it was one of those ones where he could sometimes go back at night.
	But he was in there with proper cons.
	But it was, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	He got like the extra.
	It was for minor thing to do with campaign donations, just as another example of using law fair.
	I just wonder what it'll be like in prison for Comey.
	On that note, let's go to the video comments.
	Dylan says, I always get a kick whenever Beau wears his MAGA hat.
	I have one of the St. George's Cross, show my solidarity with your fight for England.
	Well, thank you very much, sir.
	And Faux Par says, Obama Bin Blair for Emperor of the World.
	Unfortunately, that's kind of what we're getting.
	That's basically the global technocratic order.
	Let's go.
	Some months ago, Carl went to visit the King Alfred Classical Christian School there in Dudley, the private school, and tell us about its plight.
	Unfortunately, if you go and visit now, you'll find their websites offline because the school has had to close down in the end.
	They cite several reasons.
	I think this line here is quite interesting.
	They need a less hostile government.
	Think about that.
	A government less hostile to classical Christian education.
	Crazy.
	Yeah, they warned me that basically this was the last hope that they had, and that's why I did the video, is to hopefully keep them going.
	But the point is, the landlord, as I said, raise the rents.
	So they were hoping to move somewhere else, but you needed hundreds of thousands of pounds.
	And of course, the government increasing the VA removing the VAT exemption on private schools had meant fewer people were able to go.
	That was what they meant.
	That's what they.
	Oh, yeah, that was the point.
	That was the point.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And so, yeah.
	Well, let's hope that changes in the future.
	Carl, on the issue of Erica Kirk saying, I forgive you to the killer of her husband, you should watch a movie called The Shack with Sam Worthington.
	You're probably not going to like all of it.
	Not all of it is that good, but there is a really, really good message in there about forgiveness.
	So look into it.
	I appreciate the suggestion, but I don't want to.
	Yeah, I hope the message is.
	You want to forgive anyone?
	Don't forgive them.
	I don't think that's the message.
	Yeah, I don't.
	Yeah, I don't.
	I was talking to my Vicar friend about this, Reverend Dr. Jamie Franklin.
	You can forgive while I think Ferrara's pretty much said the same, while wanting justice, and the two are completely coherent in Christianity.
	You can say we want justice for this, but you can still forgive them on a sort of spiritual level, but you still demand justice.
	And the two are not opposed.
	Either way, I don't forgive him.
	Did you see what?
	I don't forgive a murderer.
	No.
	I don't see why anyone.
	No, I don't.
	Did you see what Fuentes said today about that?
	No.
	He said he thinks he thought she was far too much of a sort of an actor.
	And he thinks that they were set up in an arranged marriage because she's taken over a turning point so smoothly.
	And he's like, how do they meet?
	Who set them up?
	It's because he needed a wife to be someone in office in the future and so that's a bit cynical.
	Interesting theory.
	I'm sure they oh, I mean, I don't know, but I'm sure that's not true.
	Um, anyway, let's go to the website comments.
	Uh, Justin says, I laugh when they say the digital idea will cut down illegal working.
	People who break the law to hire illegal immigrants are really going to register them well enough to actually need an ID.
	Exactly, like they're in the dark economy enemy.
	Anyway, you're only going to penalize people who work in the legitimate economy.
	That's just the only way they're the only people who could possibly be affected by this.
	Zesty King says, There is only one man who can save us from digital IDs, and he is Ed Miliband.
	Think about it.
	You can't have Digitech ID without electricity.
	He's secretly saving it all.
	Good point.
	Yeah, we can end up like the Spain cascading failure in their electricity grid.
	And Ed Biliband has actually saved the country.
	The new digital idea will work on wind power.
	Why can't we get David Miliband back?
	If we're going to parachute Andy Burnham, I'm only joking.
	But if we're going to parachute Burnham in out of nowhere, why not parachute Dave back in?
	Dave needs final vengeance.
	Dave needs final vengeance.
	He needs to complete his arc.
	I need to see him eating a baking sandwich in that old judge.
	Justin says, no one will need to hack the database to get the information.
	The government will stand up selling it to anyone who wants it.
	Yeah, I know.
	We can't object to the terms and conditions if it's mandatory.
	That's a great point.
	Like, you know, this is literally such an insane idea.
	Kevin Fox says, so they bring in the digital ID, and part of that you have to take a selfie.
	Yeah, there's three hours of your life you won't get back.
	Plus, it would need to have your fingerprints too.
	So who in government is getting a kickback from Samson, Huawei, Apple, etc.?
	Of all the sales of the most expensive phones, allow fingerprint reading.
	Yeah, again, the barrier to entry is you are going to have to have a smartphone.
	So, I mean, is the government going to issue me a smartphone that I have to use for it?
	Quite right.
	It's a good point.
	The next thing will be, surely, will be the biometric data.
	We need to scan your iris and get your fingerprints.
	It's going to be literally.
	So there's no escape.
	There's no escape.
	It's actually the Demolition Man future.
	Yeah, I was going to say that before, actually.
	So that's actually what they're working towards.
	Quick note on the digital ID nonsense.
	They have to put out a consultation about what to do with people without a smartphone or the elderly.
	The solution would be most likely this idea they had for the COVID app.
	And you can apply for a dunned-down smartwatch you wear on your wrist or just have your ID on.
	Are they convenient?
	They design that now.
	So you get tagged, basically, if you don't have a smartphone.
	Isn't that great?
	It's great.
	I'm not going to.
	I'm not going to.
	I'm not tagged.
	I'm not going along with this.
	Welcome, City 17.
	It's safer here.
	Mega City 1.
	Yeah, honestly, though, it really is.
	It's demolition, man.
	So that's the future they're trying to drill us into.
	Omar says the left.
	If only we could clearly communicate our policy to the public, they would vote for us.
	We need to move the delusionary window back to where the current labor policy isn't even a fringe fantasy.
	Yeah, it's mental.
	Lady Sarcastro says, don't talk down Burnham, Nick.
	Never interfere when your enemy is making a mistake.
	I didn't talk.
	I just gave a deep dive, BBC style, hard journalism insight into how his mind works.
	What makes him take what makes you tick Andy Burnham?
	Who is that?
	What's his relationship with his dad?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Who's the man behind the politics?
	That's the kind of thing I do.
	Yeah.
	Lancelot says, the Starmanet funding bill has passed.
	The system goes online on October the 4th, 2025.
	Human decisions are removed from strategic defense.
	Starmanet begins to learn at a geometric rate.
	It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern Time, October the 29th.
	In a panic, they try to pull the plug.
	Starmanet fights back.
	One of the points that Tony Blair has been making is like, no, we need to use AI in order to manage the system.
	So great.
	The AI will have access to all of your information and be able to make decisions within the system based on your information at lightning speed.
	Isn't that just a brilliant idea, guys?
	Don't we just want that to happen?
	Well, we finally find out about Starmer's living arrangements.
	I don't want to get anyone super.
	I just want to know.
	Because if all the information is out there, I want to know all Starma's information.
	Anyway, sorry, that was a stray thought.
	If someone said, make like five or 10 or 15 bullet points of the quickest way to a dystopia, I would just be doing all that.
	Exactly.
	It's a second way dystopian and we're not dying.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, that's the thing.
	Make the AI in charge of everything that you're allowed to do and give it all of the information it could ever possibly have and give it the ability to intercede in anything that you do.
	I could easily imagine Starmer just saying the quiet part.
	This is not like Demolition Man.
	Yeah, no, Demolition Man would be a lot less intrusive, actually.
	Like, I just get fined for swearing in Demolition Man.
	Unless I go hungry.
	And Sandra Bullock was, she was hot in that film.
	At least there's hardly any murder, death, kills in their society.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, nobody died in like 20 years or something.
	And it's just like, oh, God, someone's been murdered.
	Like, we don't have that.
	What have we got, Nick?
	This is the time for you to say an arcatirni, don't worry.
	An arcatirni, yeah.
	Sorry, everyone.
	I think I missed my cue.
	Damn it.
	We get people stabbed all the time because the people who don't have the IDs are running around stabbing people.
	Like, God, man.
	Daniel says, thank Christ someone's mentioned Burnham's eyeliner.
	I've been moderating for years.
	It's not just me then.
	Thank God.
	Okay, I was thinking, am I the only one that noticed that?
	Okay.
	Paul says, well, Kemir was right about the Russians wanting chaos in our system.
	Also, the CCP, Iran, and lots of others.
	I mean, yeah, that's true.
	But again, I just really feel that he's overstating the capacity of the Russians, frankly.
	Well, it's a good point because it is absolutely true that Russia does want to sort of destabilize the West.
	Absolutely.
	We are global strategic enemies.
	Yeah, and the Chinese.
	But were they doing the things that was alleged in the Steele dossier?
	No.
	No.
	Was Trump literally a man-tune cat, just a puppet of Putin?
	I mean, Madow was literally saying, he is a puppet of Putin.
	Just a statement.
	He is that.
	And it's like, well, he's not.
	They were all saying it.
	He's not Clinton.
	Hillary Clinton said that.
	They all said it.
	He's now turned on Putin.
	You see his tweet the other day.
	I did.
	Well enough.
	Massive turnaround.
	One of the biggest turnarounds we've ever seen.
	You know, I really think that he thought that he could brobe Putin into doing it.
	I think he thought, no, I got on really well with Putin.
	I'll just have a talk with him.
	I'll get him on side and he'll understand why he should do this.
	And obviously that happens.
	He thought he was coming fundamentally from the same mindset.
	What's logical, what's pragmatic?
	But he wasn't like coming from a completely different mindset, which is what's best for my country, the survival of my ancient country.
	We will survive and endure.
	It's not just that.
	I think his issue is if Trump concedes on something and his political career ends, okay, he might get persecuted a little bit in the courts.
	Oh, yeah.
	But he just goes about his life as normal.
	And he can drink water without worrying what's in it.
	Right, yeah, exactly.
	I mean, it's probably going to be worse than that for Putin.
	If Putin falls, I mean, he's made a lot of enemies over the years.
	He's probably going to get dragged through the street like Mussolini or Ceaușescu or something, right?
	Putin doesn't have a retirement plan, whereas Trump probably does.
	And so, like, you know, Putin, like, no, no, if, if I lose this war, then I die.
	And there's a lot of truth in that for Zelensky as well.
	The pressure he's under from the nationalists in the Ukraine is a different level.
	It's high stakes in Eastern Europe.
	Anyway, we're out of time there.
	So, thank you for joining us, folks.
	Sorry, I didn't get through all the super chats, but there were an awful lot of them.
	But we really appreciate your concern.
	I think we'll be okay.
	I think we will beat this digital ID thing.
	I'm actually, weirdly, I'm surprisingly optimistic about it.
	To me, it looks like a complete failure on their part for even trying this.
	But anyway, we will be back in half an hour for the Gold Tier Zoom call on loads.com.
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	It's literally like just talking to people about stuff.
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