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	Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
	Welcome to the podcast of the Lord Seaters for Friday, the 26th of September 2025.
	I'm John Bick and Bo, and today we're getting absolutely crushed by the Starmer government because he's bringing in digital ID and it's all going to hell.
	We're also going to be talking about how Starmer's finished.
	How this is the last gasp of Starmer's regime.
	Uh and how James Comey is uh probably gonna go to jail.
	Something's actually gonna happen.
	Fingers crossed.
	Can't something always happens.
	Well, I mean, apparently a lot of stuff is happening today.
	I mean, you know, so uh unfortunately never nothing ever happens, bros.
	We're we're on life support at this point.
	Uh but the and the before we begin, uh go get your copy of Islander.
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	So uh join us after the podcast for that.
	So let's begin.
	Uh Keir Starmer has announced that they're going to bring in digital IDs, so you will not be able to work or do various other things without having a digital ID.
	Now, this is pretty mad to be honest, and I'm gonna read from this is a live page that the BBC have had.
	It's probably updated since I made the notes, so I'm just gonna read from my notes.
	Um, but they say the government's digital ID scheme will enable digital checks on people's right to work and live in the UK.
	So they are going to have to have a centralized database with information about everyone in the country to hand at all times, and it's going to be able to be checked at will by whoever is intending to access it.
	They say, under the plans, anyone starting a new job or looking to rent a home would need to show the card on a smartphone app.
	So you have to have a smartphone to just live in the UK now.
	It becomes a mandatory piece of equipment.
	Starma phone.
	I'll have a special phone.
	Well, they're gonna have to.
	It's like, sorry, am I getting a government issued one then, am I?
	Which is gonna be terrible.
	But anyway.
	Well, if you just claim you've still got like a Nokia 3210.
	Then you can't live or work in the UK.
	Then you can't, okay.
	Apparently, according to the BBC.
	Um this would then be checked against a central database of people entitled to live and work in the UK.
	So it is actually the sort of final form of the full-on technocracy that they've been trying to create in this country since about 1997, in fact.
	And there is an obvious loophole, isn't there?
	People that are already engaged in living being here and living here and working here illegally will still just do so.
	If they're getting paid cash in hand, well how then they're still to keep doing that?
	They'll have to live with someone who can stay here legally.
	So but that their landlord is a dodgy geezer who lets them pay rent and be renting that, yeah.
	Right.
	Um billions of people doing that.
	It is it is a scheme that's only going to affect those people who comply with it, basically.
	Yeah, because Tys was saying, wasn't it on question time, Richard Tyson that national insurance should already do this?
	Yes.
	But it doesn't.
	Needing a national insurance number.
	But you people don't.
	Yes.
	Right, exactly.
	And so it's going to affect those law-abiding people who actually will comply with the system, and those people who don't will just find ways around it.
	So yet again, it is the law-abiding people being tyrannized, whereas the criminals will just carry on as they are, you in the dark economy.
	It's called a narco-tyranny, folks.
	Is it?
	I've never heard that before.
	I have to say it every every time on anything.
	It's the classic thing.
	The thing that springs to my mind is someone goes to court, you get some some Albanian or something who's done something illegal, they go to court, they go through the process, they get uh an electronic tag attached to their ankle.
	They come out of the court and cut the tag off.
	Yeah.
	And that's it.
	And that's it.
	That's the end of the story as far as they're concerned.
	They go back into the dark realms, yeah, living and working illegally, and don't care.
	And we have millions of people living and working illegally in this country.
	Um so they they list uh a series of countries.
	What which countries use digital IDs?
	Don't you want to be like Singapore, the UAE, China, South Korea, or Afghanistan?
	It's like not really.
	Well, it it's the old thing, like if we had Singapore's cleanliness and safety, or economy, but we never will always be the crap version without without that.
	But the chewing on thing, you know, you like they hang you if you leave chewing them on the street.
	We never get that version.
	We always just get all the bad parts.
	Do you not want the same sort of social credit system that China has?
	Not really, because I don't want a drone circling my house saying, give up your thirst for freedom.
	Which actually happened.
	That is actually a real example, by the way.
	Um it's not Starvice.
	Or you live on the tenth floor and they send a drone up to hover just outside your balcony.
	Yeah.
	I've seen that.
	Yeah, and then that's literally what they're saying.
	But this is this is genuinely where where it's looking like that we're going.
	Uh and so Dan uh pointed out look, we use a lot of digital services, but these are all one-to-one relationships that you control.
	And that's totally true.
	I mean, think about like even even the old world sort of services, like hey, do you want to get a driving license?
	Well, you have to pay to get the driving licence, take the test, pass the test, and then you have it.
	You know.
	Um, it do you want a passport?
	You have to go and apply to the passport office, send in your details, and then they'll send you a passport.
	These are all voluntary.
	You can actually live in the country without a driving license or a passport if you want.
	For all of the faults of modern Britain, we are still not a papers please society.
	And that's what this is going to turn us into.
	But it's going to turn us into the most extreme version of it.
	Uh, and of course, every sort of service will demand a link to your digital ID, and why would they not?
	And the government will have an excess that can flag you as a suspect, restrict you and just ban you.
	And the Bank of England want to bring in uh digital pound currency.
	So the currency you you're using carries metadata, and so they can track where it's spent, who it's spent by, what it's spent on, and where it goes after that.
	And so they could literally just intercede in your payments, so they can shut you completely out of the economy, they can track you honestly anywhere you go, and this will be the law of this country.
	It will be mandatory.
	It's so much easier than sending police to your house at night for a tweet.
	You do a bad tweet, you just bank accounts frozen for a day, two days, whatever they decide.
	And not even if you even if your bank account's not frozen, you just can't buy anything.
	Yeah, you yeah, certain services don't work like an Uber or whatever.
	Versions of this already happened, you know, Fuentes are the bank accounts frozen, Trudeau did it for the truckers.
	And I was saying to you before, you buy your steak, it's like you've had your stake for the month, the card tells you, you know, that's your monthly steak.
	I love that it's saying this in Starman's voice.
	That's so good.
	But uh this is the crux of it though, for me, I think, because that that really because if it was just we just want another form of ID and people like us say, well, we've already got a birth certificate, a national insurance number, and a passport, a digital passport, we don't need it, but okay, if it means I go to prison, if I don't do it, I'll just do it, okay.
	Another card you want me to have, okay.
	But this is Dan gets to the crux of it because it's not just that.
	It's that it's not that they just want you to have another card.
	No, no, no.
	It will be a type of full control.
	Total government control over every aspect of society.
	Where if you if you fall foul of the party in any way, in any way, if you do a tweet they don't like, yeah, um, then suddenly you can't buy anything, or you're not allowed into certain places in your smart city anymore.
	Suddenly you can't pay your rent.
	And and post-COVID, all this is completely possible.
	Like pre-COVID, somebody might say, Oh, you're being silly.
	But post-COVID, it's like nothing is silly because it you arrested people for walking along a beach alone or being on a park bench.
	You locked us down in our houses for that.
	Yeah, you said my job couldn't be done anymore.
	It's like, yeah, sorry, you're in your house now.
	You can go out once a day to be walked like a dog.
	It's like they'll we saw there was nothing too absurd for them during COVID.
	So of course they'll do all that.
	It will be you do a tweet we don't like, you're now under house arrest indefinitely.
	Right, yeah.
	Like it's it will be that quite quickly.
	You're in your house and you're eating bugs for a week.
	And that's if you're lucky.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And so, yeah, this is obviously genuinely, this is basically the worst possible scenario.
	Uh, which is why Starmer came out and proudly was like, yeah, I'm doing this because this is a great idea.
	Let's watch him uh announce it, shall we?
	And that is why today I am announcing this government will make a new free of charge digital ID mandatory for the right to work by the end of this parliament.
	Let me spell that out.
	You will not be able to work in the United Kingdom if you do not have digital ID.
	It's as simple as that.
	An absolute tyrant.
	Because decent, pragmatic, fair-minded people.
	They want us to tackle the issues that they see around them.
	And of course, the truth is we won't solve our problems if we don't also take on the root causes.
	Looking upstream to tackle poverty, conflict, climate change.
	Issues that aren't just intolerable for those of us who care about inequality and injustice wherever it's found in the world.
	A few red flags.
	One in the fact that it's free.
	Do you remember the free burgers for getting the vaccine?
	The other is he's talking about climate change already.
	Like, sorry, what?
	And he's already tying it to climate change.
	But your carbon footprint means you can't buy that steak.
	Yeah.
	Is what he's going to go to.
	Yeah, and the other is just the as you say, the absolute tyranny of it.
	But the fact that he's so confidently you will do this, this will happen, just like with the Southport rights.
	You will go to jail, we will get you.
	It's like right, you are just a tyrannical technocrat.
	Understood.
	Who made you the autocrat of Britain?
	Yeah, you don't have a mandate for this, but like Labour have won this election with the smallest percentage of votes that Labour have ever won an election on.
	And so there is no mandate for this.
	And everyone, everyone can tell.
	And he's doing that Blair trick, of course, decent, pragmatic, fair-minded people.
	Anyone who's fair mind, of course, anyone would want this if you'd have to do it.
	Why wouldn't you?
	But if I'm not, if I'm not that pragmatic and it also it also opens up the the the question of what happens when something goes wrong.
	So I mean, you have a database of everyone's information in the entire country.
	Well it's not like cybercrime isn't the thing.
	It's not like these databases can't be hacked.
	You know, oh great, so someone in China or wherever or India or wherever it is can just hack this database and get absolutely everyone's details.
	Yeah.
	And I remember the other thing I was going to say.
	It's it's it it's it's an answer to a question we didn't ask.
	So it's like, can you stop the boats?
	Here's your digital ID.
	That's not what I said.
	I said can we stop some dingies?
	Yeah.
	I think we'll just need like the the Navy in ten minutes.
	Like it or we need to get out of the ECH.
	One gunboat with human rights.
	Yeah, but but yeah, it's like no no, digital ID.
	It just reminded me of when Sir David Ames was murdered by is Islamist Nutter.
	It's like, oh yeah, online safety act.
	What?
	It's like, no, no, I think it was the Islamist no no, we need to regulate online speech.
	Like, I'm sorry.
	So it's a classic technocratic manager or progressive bollock.
	He's got the cheek to talk about justice.
	Yes.
	And injustice.
	Yes.
	Because what what he's creating here is a prison without walls.
	He can turn the entire country into a prison for any person at any time with a flick of a switch.
	Your phone becomes the jailer.
	Yes.
	And what about someone just steals your phone?
	It's not like there's not hundreds of thousands of phones stolen every year.
	In London.
	Yeah.
	Alone.
	Until you're able to deactivate that.
	Someone's just you now.
	Yeah.
	And they've yeah, they've got your complete identity.
	So and the thing is, because they'll say, well, look, it's tied to his digital ID, okay.
	Well then why would I need any other checks, right?
	So someone steals your phone, yeah.
	I can buy a car, I can get a loan for a house, I can you know get a mortgage, I can uh I can just do all this because why would I not be able to do that?
	Like that's the that's the uh the way they're selling this, it's convenience.
	There's gonna speed up a bunch of things.
	Um so this this whole thing, like I said, uh creating a prison without walls uh for everyone in the country, which I think is an absolutely atrocious thing.
	And Starmer's announcing it like it's inevitable, like it's uh a good thing, and like he's going to mercilessly impose this on us.
	And so you got like um things from like this just Sky News thing.
	You haven't seen VFA Vendetta, but this just sounds exactly like a VFA vendetta clip.
	Breaking news now, digital ID will be made law for all adults in an effort to tackle small boats.
	Downing Street believes that a mandatory ID card system will help stop illegal immigrants working.
	Let's bring in our political correspondents.
	I mean the the the tone and the delivery just sound and the ridiculousness of it and the oppressive nature of it.
	Doesn't that just sound like one of the broadcasts from Viva Vendetta?
	I love that nonsense to stop the small boats.
	Your sentence doesn't even make sense.
	And we know it won't do that.
	Yeah, we we could just deport illegals and stop the boats using the Navy, or we can have a digital ID that turns this entire country into an open air prison.
	You could make it illegal to come here on a small boat and you put you straight in prison.
	You do that in ten minutes.
	Yeah, yeah, you can just make it happen.
	And the small boat people won't abide by it anyway.
	That's the whole point of them, is that they they tend to avoid these kind of things.
	And you give them a bunch of free money anyway.
	We all know that it's a complete liar, that it's about small boats and immigration.
	If you remember back in the COVID era, they were saying that we need ID Blair was saying we need ID cards because of COVID vaccine.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So now you've moved the goalposts to something completely different.
	We remember four years ago.
	He's only been remaining since the 90s, so we remember every day.
	We'll We'll get into the history of this in a minute.
	So Lisa Nandy went on uh BBC Breakfast and she explained uh well, you know, what happens if people just don't do it?
	All UK citizens will have to have one.
	Well, the plan is that we're going to roll this out by the end of the year.
	No, no, the question is what if I don't?
	What if I've got my job?
	So I don't need to I don't need to show this to anyone.
	So what if I just don't do it?
	So if if you don't have one, um then you'll have a problem if you want to get a new job.
	No, I'm saying I'm not doing that.
	So I'm not seeking a job, so why should I get the digital ID card?
	Why why do I do it?
	Is there is there some fine for not doing it?
	Is there an incentive to do it?
	I'm just thinking I've got no reason to do it.
	Yeah, look, what this isn't a heavy-handed approach.
	We're not planning to go around finding people.
	But what we are going to do is make sure that everybody's got one in the same way, Charlie, as you've got a national insurance number.
	If you're a citizen of this country, we'll make sure that everybody has a digital ID.
	So help me with this.
	We are I know we're plotting through this, but everyone watching who's got a job but has got a national insurance number.
	So when these digital ID cards exist, if I just go to my employer and show them my national insurance number, is that not sufficient?
	Can uh are they are they being precluded from employing me?
	It won't be sufficient.
	I just want to be really clear about that.
	They can't employ people unless they've seen one of the things that I've done.
	A digital ID.
	Yes, that's right.
	That is the plan.
	And the major benefit of that to the entirety of the UK is that we will therefore be able to disrupt the illegal market where people come to this country and work illegally and undercut British workers who who could otherwise get those.
	Well, national insurance number would have the same effect, because if you're legal, you can have one of those.
	Well, the problem with national insurance numbers is that they're not linked to anything else.
	So they're not linked, for example, to photo ID.
	So you can't verify that the person in front of you is actually the person whose national insurance number that you're looking at.
	And we've seen a real rise in the amount of identity theft and people losing documents and then finding that their identity has been stolen.
	We think this can have really big knock-on effects for the whole of the UK population.
	Right.
	So you can see there, it's interesting.
	We're not going to find you.
	We're going to lock you out of society.
	We don't need to find you.
	Because you're not going to have any money by the end of this.
	You won't be able to get a job.
	You won't be able to get a house.
	If you don't comply, you'll have nothing.
	But I think it's really interesting that she says, Oh no, we're going to have this by the end of this parliament.
	Why is it so definite?
	Well, it's because you know you're going to lose.
	You know you're never getting in again.
	And you expect the next administration of this country to just carry on with this thing.
	Now the next administration is going to be Nigel Farage.
	So why isn't he just can it day one?
	Which he absolutely can do, which makes this a very strange hail name.
	I mean Cameron did it to Blair.
	Absolutely, did a few.
	So with this policy, uh as far as I know, so you can just stop it, and that'll be the first it'd be a very popular obvious reform policy.
	Yeah.
	And uh Farage will.
	He's already declared that he will.
	So it's and it would be very strange for a government not to do that.
	So why are they doing this very very desperate Hail Mary?
	Which is absolutely not going to make them more popular.
	Now I've heard on the Grapevine that basically the point of this is to avert Keir Starmer being challenged by Andy Burnham, which we're going to talk about in a minute, actually.
	That's linked.
	Yes.
	Uh because what the purpose of this is to bring in the Blair Foundation network.
	So Tony Blair, his foundation and the network that he's connected to, which is a vast and powerful network, is now suddenly 100% on Starmer's side because Tony Blair has been banging this drum for a long time.
	And you might say, well, how do you know this is coming from the Tony Blair institution?
	How do you know that this is Tony Blair's?
	Well, I can show you the linkage, actually.
	So here is Labour Together.
	This is as they they tell us.
	Uh in Labour's Wilderness Years, Labour Together was founded by a group of MPs fighting to make the party electable again.
	Today it's a think tank offering bold ideas for Britain under a Labour government.
	Uh and so we can have a look at some of the things they've done.
	Uh sorry, I just need to go back to the top of this just so you can see it, because I want everyone to sit properly.
	Right, so you've got the Brit card, A progressive digital identity for Britain.
	Uh so you can see this is from Lav Labour Together at the side, and it's written by Chris uh Kirsty Inns, Morgan Wilde, and Lauren Boxall.
	Shall we just have a quick search for Tony Blair Institute in this?
	To bridge the gap between the current arrangements and the fully functioning digital identity ecosystems, like organizations like the Tony Blair Institute have recommended the government should identify one or two significant use cases that are politically significant and potential to be blah blah blah to bring into thing.
	So it's called the Brit Card because they've called it the brick card, and they are s literally appealing to the Tony Blair uh project.
	And then you've got Kirsty Inns is the director of technology at Labour Together, but as you can see, in 2019, she joined the Tony Blair Institute.
	Such a Tony Blair name as well, isn't it?
	Brit card, you like Britpop cool Britannia.
	Here is the Tony Blair Institute website with her as the director of public services policy.
	So she is not only the director of public services policy there, she's the director of technology at Labour Together, and suddenly you can see the precise linkage of how this comes together.
	This is Tony Blair's network, his entire like an NGO complex getting behind Starmer because he's been desperate for this for a long time.
	Let me explain how he's been desperate for it for a long time.
	You can go back to say 2006, in which Tony Blair was arguing, yes, no, we absolutely should have digital ID cards, and probably before that, but this is the first like significant one from when he was in government, by the way, and there was a lot of pushback on that, and Tony Blair didn't care.
	He was just like, I don't care about the civil rights argument against ID cards.
	In fact, to give you his uh exact quote, uh he said that the uh the scheme should go ahead as a question of modernity, not civil liberties.
	I love that.
	It's a simple question of modernity.
	I like the classic Blair framing.
	It is pragmatism, any decent pragmatic.
	Any modern exactly, there could possibly be a game.
	And the argument that it's inevitable, this is going to happen.
	This is in the future, so get on board.
	Yeah.
	You're the home of civil liberties with a long rich tradition of hundreds of years.
	No, no, no.
	That's gone.
	Yeah, we're modern now.
	I mean, he l he literally says, quote, the civil liberties argument doesn't carry much weight.
	It's like okay, bro.
	What's your argument against it?
	Saying it's rubbish.
	Yeah I think you'll find the argument carries no weight.
	What?
	Where's your argument?
	Oh, I don't need one.
	I blair.
	Unironically.
	Uh and so you've you've got him banging this drum for a long time, and then of course, during the COVID pandemic, he was like, aha, we need health passports so you can travel around the world.
	And of course that means you'll need digital passports to show you're vaccinated.
	Thanks, Tony.
	And then back in 2023, him and William Haig were like, yeah, you should just all have digital ID cards, by the way.
	We just need digital ID cards.
	And it's like, okay, this is a kind of repeated pattern.
	Uh and then you've got the economic case for a digital ID card from the Tony Blair Institute.
	And it's like, oh, okay, um, we've got an economic case for it now.
	And what about just the disruption that the UK desperately needs?
	Things are stagnant.
	This was from last year.
	Things are stagnant.
	We just need disruption.
	And so we desperately need digital ID.
	So funny, it's about uh safety and pragmatism, but it's also about disruption.
	We're not done.
	Right?
	Get tough on populism.
	The populists arising, you know how to fix that digital ID?
	Well that's ID.
	That's the most mascot one yet.
	Yes, it is.
	Like with the politics we don't like, we can crush it with digital ID.
	Yes.
	We see you turn up uh any sort of protest, the cops just stand there with the camera the whole time.
	That's one of the things they do.
	If you've ever been to one, cops should stand there filming the uh patriotic side.
	So they got your face.
	Yep.
	But it's like we know who you are and you're under house arrest now.
	And you've got no money.
	From the Tony Blair Institute, it's just time for digital ID.
	It's a new consensus for a state that works.
	Time for it.
	It's the only way to make the state work, it'll give us enormous benefits, is basically the thing.
	So you can see how the argument has evolved over time.
	Literally, whatever the problem is, the solution is digital ID.
	We just want digital ID, it'll it'll stop the populist, it'll give economic growth, it'll stop the boats, it will do everything.
	It's it we just need digital ID, bro.
	Just give me it's like the ring with Gollum.
	Like he's genuinely this is like Gollum and the Ring, like I no, I just I just needs it.
	And it's like, okay, Tony, you're not getting it.
	And the reason that he needs it is because this is the final crown jewel in the technocratic managerial regime.
	This is the thing that brings it all together.
	You've got mass surveillance, you've got constant digital uh footprint tracking, and then what we need is a database to see exactly who is in.
	So if you were like if you were playing the game of civilization, like or Sim City or whatever.
	And you you needed all this information to make everything work properly.
	This is the final piece of the puzzle.
	I thought of it as the final stone for Thanos or whatever.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	The final ring.
	It's whatever.
	You know what makes it for me just sort of clearly clearly sinister.
	Yep.
	Is that okay?
	Tony Blair wanted to push these policies and this scheme and stuff when he was in government.
	Okay.
	That's the perk of being in government is you get to try and do what you want.
	Okay, fine.
	But when he's out of government, oh well that's what the Tony Blair Institute's.
	Why are you yeah?
	But so why are you stupid?
	You're already you've already you're already a senior statesman.
	You've already had your time in the limelight in government.
	You're already a multi-multi-millionaire, but you're still pushing that agenda super hard at every opportunity.
	Because why is that for this?
	I can answer this.
	One glass thing we could say.
	I don't believe that Tony Blair just genuinely loves the idea so much, just in and of himself, that he will spend untold time and energy on still pushing it years and years and years later.
	It's somebody else's agenda, of which he is uh a willing tool, a willing tool.
	No, no, no, no.
	It's the global liberal international order.
	So it's not just Tony Blair, it's not it's not just he's a true believer in it, right?
	So the point the point being to bring it to bring about the technocratic liberal order, you need certain things in place, and as we can see, that order is failing, but it's currently in the middle of failing, and it's because there is there are too many civil liberties.
	It allows the the right wing is able to actually organise, you're actually able to coordinate, and so without this, this whole thing collapses.
	And you we saw the speech that Keir Starmer gave, the full speech.
	I'll do another uh video or segment or something because it was really fascinating where he was literally saying people are saying that our politics is failing, dying, dying, and he's right, and this is what Tony Blair's um urgency is about.
	They can feel the sand slipping between their fingers, and we if we just get this, then we can oppress everyone, we can remake the system in our in our image.
	And if we don't get it, then everything that Tony Blair has worked for for his entire adult life has failed.
	Yeah, it is desperation.
	It was a massive mask off moment that thing, and they think they say it's dying.
	It was like, oh, he's saying the quiet part out loud.
	He's admitting that they are dying.
	And it was a similar mask off moment to uh I heard Bill Gates about five years ago say, No, there there is a serious problem from the nationalism.
	Like then they're worried about nationalism, they're worried about nationalist movements around the world versus their liberal global order things, and they're just saying it.
	And no the language about populism, which of course someone point out today, populism means democracy, yes, and what they want, which they call democracy means oligarchy.
	So they uh mask off not democrat, like Blair's like not in any way that he's like he just wants total top-down control led by Blair, of course.
	Yes, and here's a digital idea, and we're against populism, which means what you used to have your democratic civil liberties, that whole thing.
	They're basically saying that's gone, yeah, and we're gonna and the battle now is between what they call populism and and the new thing that they want.
	But this is the inflection point between the sort of Blairite consensus of the 2000s and whatever the future looks like, right?
	This is the inflection point.
	This is the issue on which they are staking everything.
	They're going to try and get it done as soon as possible, try and normalize it to everyone so it's just inevitable part of your lives, and so they can be like, Yes, this is the the entire beginning, the the entire fruit of the project is contained within this one thing.
	Without this, the whole thing fails.
	Do you think it's also about either competing with or getting in league with China and they basically said, Okay, because these people just love China, like, oh China.
	Well, they recommend that China having already said they've found a way to do this, sort of liberalism's over, as many people think, you know, basically f the free market as we've known it is over, the idea of sort of free market capitalism and so on, and they've looking at these other models and they're going, Oh, we like the Chinese model, that's the most successful, which it currently could be said to be Managerial technocracy.
	Yeah, and so they're just sort of saying, and if we yeah, the sinister part is like if we implement it, they can't get out of it.
	Yes.
	That no, no, that's that's exactly the point.
	They want to create a system, a prism without walls that we cannot escape.
	And if we let this go through, that's what we'll have.
	And that is everything that's been driving Tony Blair.
	Because if this fails, his whole project has failed.
	Because everyone can see it's failing without being properly fully implemented.
	What would stop Farage getting rid of it?
	Or is he banking on people liking it, and maybe it does stop some boats and or people because people are kind of weird.
	I don't think the weird norms do that.
	But I I think that honestly at this point, just kind of desperate.
	I think that's a Hail Mary.
	Are they thinking that people will actually like it when it comes in and not want Farage?
	Are they thinking that Farage just won't be able to get rid of it when it's in or I think they don't realise that things have gone too far.
	This needed to be implemented in the early 2000s, so the right couldn't organise and grow to the skills.
	All he knows is to, as you said, to keep trying it.
	He must be taking orders from Satan ultimately, because there's no one else.
	No one else would make you that big.
	This is his life's work.
	I get that.
	Like the idea that he wants to protect his legacy.
	That absolutely makes sense.
	Perfect logical sense.
	Maybe it's just me, but I feel like if I was in my sixties, I guess Blair's in his sixties now, he must be.
	If I was in my sixties and very, very, very rich, he's very, very rich.
	His son is a multi-buff.
	But why would you power?
	But like why would 72.
	Is he?
	Yeah.
	If I was 72 and my li and and already had decades in the limelight and was very, very, very rich.
	I just I just wouldn't be spending tons of time and energy over.
	He's got an incomplete plan that he's trying to do.
	It's because he's motivated solely by power, and you're not.
	And that he lives that.
	I mean, look at his book.
	I haven't actually read all of it yet, but I've read bits, and it's like he he's just lives for power.
	He's motivated purely by evil.
	Um but for the sake of time, I'm afraid we can carry on.
	That's all right.
	Uh so everyone's against this.
	Uh when I put this together earlier this morning, this was at 750,000 signatures, it's near now nearly a million signatures.
	Uh this has only been up for a day, not even a day.
	So you can see that just everyone everyone hates this.
	Um, nearly a million people have signed this petition, and you should go and sign it too.
	You should go and go and sign the petition against digital ID cards.
	So they are at least aware that they are phenomenally outnumbered with who wants the digital ID card.
	Because this really is the last piece of the Blairite puzzle.
	We have to defeat this.
	And they definitely don't care about the numbers.
	As I said to you, they ignore the million marching in the Iraq war march, which I was on, they will ignore this, but you're saying do it anyway.
	Oh, yeah, but this this is a lot more personal, right?
	It's like, oh, a million people marching the Iraq war for abstract reasons that doesn't affect their daily life.
	This is going to affect your daily life.
	So go sign the petitions, go get involved.
	We have to break this.
	We have to be the we have to be the generation that prevents this from coming in, because this will be a hellish future that we are condemning our children to.
	Uh so anyway, obviously you've got Rupert Lowe calling for mass non-compliance.
	The problem is, even if we are non-complying, it may be that they can build the system around us anyway.
	So the the issue is one of political will.
	We have to have a government that destroys the system, basically.
	Thankfully, Farage has come out and said, I'm not having it.
	So the Prime Minister says we must have digital ID.
	That's the way we'll stop illegal immigration.
	Well, think about it.
	Germany has ID cards, strict ID and checks.
	It's made no difference at all in Germany, and nor will it here.
	All that digital ID will be a means of controlling the population, of telling us what we can and can't do, of finding the innocent.
	Uh and didn't we see it all when we had the pandemic when you had to have vaccine ID to travel to do various things?
	Did that stop the COVID pandemic spread spreading?
	Did it hell?
	All it did was put cost and inconvenience on everybody else.
	I also worry about massive data banks being held by the government, being hacked by foreign governments, by private companies, by criminals.
	I do not see a single benefit to the government having digital ID, other than them controlling what we do, what we spend, and where we go.
	And we in reform are wholly opposed to it in every single way.
	So basically, it is going to be Farage that saves us from this.
	That's good.
	Good on him.
	I know we're throw shade at Farage was a good thing.
	That's brilliant.
	Yeah.
	He didn't get the memo from the Bank of International Settlements on that.
	It's a great statement, and it's so Farage, it's it's not a hard one for him.
	He's he gets the ick about immigration.
	But this kind of thing is old school, it's civil liberties, small state Farage stuff.
	It's literally the most essentially English feeling.
	Everyone is revol revolted by this because this is the opposite of what England was for.
	Yeah, I mean, during COVID, it was disturbing how many people didn't have that English feeling and how many people were snitches and how many people were conformists.
	But I dig ID seems to, or national ID even seems to tap into our inherent revolt.
	Oh yeah.
	Because it's so obviously just so obviously going to be used against you.
	It's against our nature.
	The argument that you have to get the vaccine, otherwise you're killing grandma and granddad.
	If you're a credulous person, you could believe that.
	Okay.
	But this the idea cards is clearly going to just be weaponised against you immediately.
	And it's just against our nature.
	In the way that Germany, it's not surprising that Germany would be a country that does have something like that because they love rules.
	They do love following rules.
	Yeah.
	But no, the Englishman expects uh a degree of privacy and to be the sovereign of his own life.
	If I have money, I'm going to spend it as I want.
	And it's not the government's business to get involved in that.
	It is not your business to intercede in who I hire, who I pay, who I do, whatever.
	And good on Farage, good on reform.
	Thank God we at least have someone waiting in the wings who's like, no, we're not going to have this in any way, shape, or form.
	Uh weirdly, the Liberal Democrats were on the right side of the issue.
	Can you believe it?
	For the first time in a long time, they can't support mandatory digital IDs, they shouldn't be criminalised because they don't want to hand over their private data.
	I mean, this is it's the thinnest, wishy-washiest sort of but at least they're against they were the same on vaccine passports, so they very occasionally on these issues they they're okay.
	Yeah, the issues of state overreach, they have a very thin resistance.
	Uh but then you have like the leader of the SNP.
	I'm opposed to mandatory digital ID.
	People should go about their daily lives without such infringements.
	Like, okay, brother.
	Like, you know, like I didn't realise that I'd be standing side by side with the SNP.
	I love that he hates it's called Brit card.
	He's like, I'm a Scot.
	Exactly.
	It's all he's also an ethnat.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Like his argument is no, no, I'm not a Brit civic nationalist.
	I'm a blood and soil Scot.
	Says it, and it's like, oh, that's a return to form, isn't it?
	Okay, SNP.
	If you call it Scott card and put like what's the case, they would have fallen for it.
	That's one of their heroes, I don't know.
	Yeah, they would have fallen for it.
	We have to rely on the the Highland regiments to save us yet again.
	So be it.
	We've got a long blurish tradition.
	But that's that's good for that.
	And even people like Clive Lewis, even the Labour left, were like, this is a bad idea, and I oppose it.
	It's like really, Clive Lewis is on the right side of an issue.
	Well.
	Even Comrade Corbyn is on the right side of the issue.
	And again, he was against the passports.
	He Corbyn occasionally pops up with one.
	But this is this is Corbyn's metaphorical Englishness.
	You can't help but he is an Englishman, whether he likes it or not.
	He probably doesn't like it.
	Well, this also cleaves right to the heart of the matter as well, because because such a big majority, we will need uh a bunch of Labour MPs to not vote with for it with the government.
	We'll need because otherwise he can just get it through.
	Doesn't matter how many of the Lib Dems.
	Exactly.
	We will need defects.
	The only weird frame from Corbett is this will make the lives of minorities even more difficult.
	Well, let's make the minorities more difficult.
	They'll get the credit card.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But um, but yes, so yeah, it's an affront to our civil liberties, which is correct.
	Yes, it's gonna make them um which it won't, but it's excessive state interference and must be resisted.
	I'm with you 100% on this, comrade.
	Um and then uh you have uh Billy Bragg on uh question time, like again, the radical like Labour left, uh saying that the they risk increasing discrimination against people not seen as a standard English person.
	They're illegal immigrants, like the government's own thing is these illegal immigrants shouldn't be here.
	And he's like, Well, you saying they're not standard English people?
	Yes.
	They're obviously not standard English people.
	Anyway, moving on.
	Uh yeah, so you've got Paul Mason, again, the sort of like deranged Labour left who are like, Nigel wants the tax dodgers and scammers free to operate the twilight economy.
	Right, so the Paul Masons of the world are for it.
	That's mad.
	Like, what an absolute insane communist you are.
	You're Jeremy Corbyn's against it, can't you agree with him?
	He says it'll protect the millions of ethnic Mauriti Brits from his hate.
	What does that even mean?
	I've no idea.
	It doesn't make any sense.
	It's not making any sense now, Paul.
	That's the point.
	The pro argument is completely incoherent.
	There's no argument in favour of it.
	And so uh but then you've got William Haig.
	He loves it.
	Conservative grandee, yeah, exactly.
	He wrote a shared letter with Tony Blair's calling for it in 2023.
	He's like, this is exactly the right move.
	Uh it's now it's an important scheme done properly, as I argued in my column earlier this week.
	You are not a conservative then, are you?
	Actually, in a f actually at the Tony Blair Institute, or is he just working with it?
	You know what?
	I didn't check.
	I should have checked if he's a member of the Tony Blair.
	William Haig is one of those people that certainly did get the globalist memo.
	Yes, and he's completely in favour of immigration.
	He's completely in favour of digital ID.
	Uh he's not a Tory, he's a traitor.
	Uh anyway, then you have to.
	Yeah, he's he's somehow involved in the institution.
	Of course he is.
	Then you had Kemi Badenok, who gave a very wishy-washy statement as if this wasn't the easiest thing to win on.
	There are arguments for and against digital ID, but mandating its use would be a very serious step that requires a proper national debate.
	It's like, no.
	Classic Kemi essay nothing.
	But no in all counts, Kemi.
	As the leader of the Conservative Party, this is such an easy win.
	Just come down and go, no, Keir Starmer's a tyrant.
	Vote for us, and we're going to overthrow this regime in its entirety.
	And for some reason you're giving an equivocation.
	One of Kemi's motto is never take an easy win.
	Yeah.
	So it's like, well, we're not sure, we're thinking about it.
	We're not sure you're not sure about leaving the ECHR still.
	You know what I mean?
	It's just all.
	Kemi Baderuk's job as leader of the opposition is to be an opposition.
	You would think.
	Which is not really opposition, isn't it?
	But it's such an easy win.
	But anyway, Liz Trust, we'll end we'll end with this.
	I know I've run over time, but this is quite a big big deal, wasn't it?
	Um Liz Liz Truss, I think has a good take on this as well.
	Knowing what I know about government IT, it's highly unlikely that this terrible authoritarian scheme will be implemented by 2029.
	Yeah.
	Incompetence will stop this happening.
	Yes.
	So the this is if if you're not from the country and you're wondering why doesn't he look terribly crushed about this?
	Because I don't think they're going to be able to do it.
	I actually really agree to Liz Truss on this.
	I think they're just too incompetent.
	Too much opposition, too incompetent, reform are coming in, Starmer's very weak, no chance.
	Exactly.
	What this is is the desperate dying howls of the Blairite Order that can't accept that it's time in the sun is done.
	Remember the pressure to get the vaccine passport through it.
	I remember it because I didn't take the vaccine.
	I was like, right, I'm never leaving the country again.
	Whatever you throw at me, I'll go to prison.
	But they never got it anywhere.
	Like even though Andrew Neal's writing tough articles, Karen Brady, all these people, all these celebrities who get about it's like, no, no, they never got anywhere with the vaccine passport.
	My hope with this is that it will take at least a year, if not two, to go through various readings, various white papers, some sort of national debate, da da da.
	And in that window of time, a year, eighteen months, two years, whatever it is, six months, whatever it is, it becomes clear that the general opposition is just too much for Starmer and his government, and they abandon the plan.
	That's my hope.
	Does Blair have the power to just prop him up this time?
	I'd say it's probably not.
	The biggest assault they've ever launched, but it's also the biggest opposition they'll also ever have.
	Yes.
	Um so anyway, there are loads of super chats, so I'm just gonna have to summarize a bunch of them, I'm afraid.
	Uh thank you to everyone wishing us good luck.
	Um, because uh we're probably going to need it, so I really appreciate this.
	Um loads of people are basically wishing us good luck.
	So I'm sorry I'm not gonna have time to read them all out.
	Um I work in IT, I know exactly how these systems are built and abused, it's silencing inconvenience speech, nothing else.
	Yes.
	Um I will never get the digital ID and I'll take the consequences.
	Well, that's the thing.
	Like we like don't.
	Basically, is my my opinion, and I'm not going to.
	Um and uh people saying they're enjoying the island of all.
	Well, that's good.
	Uh right, let's let's carry on.
	Again, sorry for running over there, but there was a lot going on there, wasn't there?
	Yeah, so shall we do my bit?
	Oops, yep.
	Um, which is Starmer finished, very much continuing from the previous segment, and can Andy Burnham save Labour?
	So all the rumours are that Andy Burnham is gonna have a shot at the Labour leadership.
	It's a great time for it, the party's doing really well.
	Uh but is he is he actually gonna do it?
	This guy, Tony Diver, did a big telegraph piece on it, and he basically says, uh, well, yes, he is.
	Let's see if I can clean it, can't see it because the camera's in the way.
	Look at that.
	Everyone has asked him, which is do you want to be Prime Minister?
	Do you want to lead the Labour Party?
	And are you gonna challenge Keir Starmer?
	And he gave me a strange answer, which is to say, it's not really up to me.
	It's up to Labour MPs, it's up to people in Westminster.
	They're the ones who get to choose who the Labour Party leader is.
	Uh so I said, Okay, well, do any of them want you to do it?
	And he said, Yeah, actually, quite a lot of them have contacted me over the summer and said that they would like me to stand.
	So there we go.
	Those two answers together tell you one thing, which is uh Burnham wants it.
	Yeah.
	He certainly thinks the Labour and Ps wants it.
	Yeah, I know.
	So uh Burnham was like, it's not really up to me, but they have all emailed me and said definitely run.
	Right.
	So he basically is running.
	Well, but my question is though, standing needs to be an MP.
	Yeah.
	Yes, and we'll get to that.
	Okay, sure.
	There's some tricks, there's some problems, yes, indeed.
	Uh so uh so that was the telegraph journalist uh Tony Dia who wrote this piece.
	No, no, not this.
	Oh, my thing's not working.
	Um maybe I can go to it at the tab.
	Okay.
	Uh unplugged the wrong one.
	No, I did unplug the right one.
	Anyway, he wrote this piece.
	Uh Andy Burnham wants me to challenge Star MPs want me to challenge Starmer.
	So Burnham's framing it very much that the MPs want him to do I'm a I'm a normal man being called to greatness.
	Yeah, yeah.
	What can I do?
	He also criticized Sir Keir directly, warning him that number ten had created a climate of fear among MPs and accuses his administration of creating alienation and demoralisation within the party.
	So that is fairly unambiguous.
	Well, I mean he kicked loads of people out of the party when he came in.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I know obviously Starmer's uh alienated lots of people in Labour.
	Total tyrant over the Labour Party and total tyrant over the country.
	What a shock.
	And uh asked if MPs had urged him to run.
	He said people have contacted me throughout the summer.
	Yeah, I'm not gonna say to you that it hasn't happened, but as I say, it's more a decision for me uh for those people than it is for me.
	Is that working now?
	Yes, okay, brilliant.
	So it'll be very slick from now on.
	Anyway, that is the that's the Tony Diver piece on whether he's running, and he basically definitely is.
	I mean, asked if he could rule out a leadership challenge.
	Uh he said, Life seems to be changing, and I don't know what what's the will of people in Westminster.
	I'm at the Prime Minister's disposal to help.
	That was a brilliant quote.
	It's like, oh, I'm look, I'm just at the listener.
	Life life finds a way, guys.
	Life life seems to be changing.
	So the Labour conference next week's gonna be very important because if Burnham comes up there and just gets the if you haven't seen Dark and Hour, but if he gets the dab on the head of the napkin, it you know, if he gets the the vote of the people, you it'll become clear at the conference whether they're for him or not.
	Um bit like when Farage went to the Tory conference and it was clear that everyone actually liked Farage better.
	But um anyway, but as you were saying, bro, the big question is can he win?
	Uh and he's also said, by the way, that he would be happy to do a coalition with the Lib Dems and Corbyn, but that's another issue.
	But can he win a by-election?
	That is a great question.
	Because he's not an MP at the moment, as you say, so he'd have to become an MP again.
	So he needs a safe seat.
	But the question is, is there such a thing in this day and age?
	And Matthew Torbett, who I've worked with on GB has some thoughts on this.
	Is Andy Burman Burnham the answer?
	He won't get a seat in Manchester because reform will absolutely win any by-election in Manchester.
	No, there are four options for Andy Burnham, two of which reform could never win.
	Ever.
	Uh they are far too safe, even in this climate, and there are several seats that are available.
	Uh, if we were to is Burnham the hope?
	Yes, the only hope.
	Is he the only hope?
	Does he beat Farage?
	I don't know.
	He's giving it Farage.
	He gives us half a chance.
	Nobody gets the chance.
	I think he is the best political communicator on the left that would give us half a chance of the water.
	Who's the best political commentator or communicator on the right?
	Nigel Frash.
	He's the best political communicator in the country.
	I think where Andy Burnham could beat him, he's being authentically working class and understanding the issues affecting working class people.
	But he stood before and got battered.
	Yes, and he disappointed me.
	Because he tried to appeal to all sides and wasn't authentic, wasn't authentically himself and became an identical politician.
	Yeah.
	I therefore went for Jeremy Corbyn.
	I was Andy Burnham through and through.
	That man got me into politics and saw something in me that he believed in.
	And that's why I was probably get the idea.
	Um Matthew, even he is saying it's half a chance against the miter Farage if we get Burnham.
	But that's how he's claiming as safe seats.
	Loads of people have made your point there are no safe seats anymore.
	Well he claims there are.
	It wasn't even necessarily that.
	I know that there are some very safe Labour seats still.
	Um I mean, one thing just quickly aside.
	Burnham can beat uh Nigel on the uh a mount of eyeliner wall.
	Right.
	Um so there's so there's always that.
	But so but what it really is though is so a safe Labour MP has to just resign.
	Uh cynically, obviously, so that Burnham can then stand in a w uh that that triggered by election.
	Yeah, but that happens all the time, doesn't it?
	There'll be pressure to do it.
	That person.
	Some people have said they won't do it after it doesn't happen all the time.
	Well happens sometimes.
	It can happen, but I don't know how someone will cynically just quit so that someone who isn't an MP can be parachuted in the world.
	That happened with Rishi Sonac, didn't it?
	Like the guy in Richmond got pulled.
	In between in between general elections, right, perhaps be a more expensive.
	That's very common.
	Yeah.
	But just in the middle of an a parliament, someone says, Oh, I just quit.
	I'm your MP.
	I quit, and then now there's a by-election, but we've got you to vote for the same party though, so that this dude can be able to do it.
	If they decide they won't define, it'll happen.
	I think.
	Okay.
	But I know you mean it would be irregular.
	It is a challenge for them.
	Oh, be very cynical, of course.
	They can probably find a diehard do it though.
	But Burnham gonna but Bo, they'll do it surely if if he it's shown that he can beat Farage and Starmer can't, which this poll seems to indicate.
	So Labour would take a two point lead over reform with Andy Burnham as leader, new more in common polling shows.
	So there you go.
	So that's the key difference.
	They are losing to reform, but then magically in that poll with Burnham, they beat reform.
	So he gets votes from the Tories, one percent from the Lib Dems and two percent from the Greens.
	Well, I think they're sort of overestimating the ability of Andy Burnham.
	Appeal, yeah.
	Like he's not that great.
	People don't love him that much.
	But also the Labour Party itself is a bit of a tarnished brand in the same way that the Conservatives are.
	Everyone hates the Labour Party.
	There was a poll that came out what was it yesterday, where they were on like 17% and the Tories are on like 15%.
	Like, sorry, who the hell is still voting for the Labour Party at this point?
	Well, and it would also mean just workers, I assume.
	If Andy Burnham took over from Keir Starmer uh in the middle of this parliament or towards the end of this parliament, what he does in that window leading up to the next general because if he does similar things, they'll the Labour Party will be just as hated and fail at the ballot box just as much.
	Uh what he's supposed to uh challenge Starmer for the leadership, win, and then do something completely different, so much so that the general electorate vote for him at the general election.
	That's not that's why even Labour diehards are saying it's a half chance.
	Yeah, it's a long shot.
	It's a series of long shots.
	But that's the point, isn't it?
	The guy who's like, well, he's our last hope.
	It's like really Andy Burnham as the last hope of the entire Labour project since 1997.
	He was like third string in the air years, isn't he?
	How how have you got to this point?
	Yeah, but look how the Tories disintegrated, they had no talent left.
	It was they followed the same trajectory that Cameron was like, Yeah, we're gonna become a Blairite party.
	Yeah, and so now William Haig and Tony Blair are locked arm and arm, being like, guys, we need digital ID.
	And all it takes is someone like Nigel Farage, basically on his own to go, I'm not gonna do that.
	Their form of politics is dying.
	Exactly.
	Starmer claimed today it wasn't.
	Exactly.
	You look at some of the polls where reformer just crushing everything, becoming almost like just a one-party party.
	Yeah, it just shows that it's the end of that era of politics.
	And just to be clear, right?
	I'm gonna vote for Nigel Farage, and I strongly encourage you to vote for Nigel Farage.
	I knew I I've got many, many problems with Nigel, but we have to crush these two, right?
	Labour and Tories have to be crushed.
	Yeah.
	That's just the way it is, and Farage is the weapon to do that.
	I'm not thrilled with it, but it's gotta be.
	Yeah, and it's not surprising that if things change, then things change, but at the moment.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	I'm not yeah, it's an interesting point because you'd have been said you might not have said that before.
	I mean, I've been very critical of the I'm very critical of them.
	Yeah.
	But there's no other no one else is gonna win.
	And look at what they're trying to do.
	They want to bring digital ID.
	Farage is like, no, I'm against that great, it has to be him now.
	Yeah, it's just a question of hoping they can actually deport people and be base, which we live in hope.
	I'm just hoping Rupert will still start a party, and you know, yeah, me too.
	But you know, I think things are too too in motion for that now.
	Anyway, um, yeah, well, anyway, it's no surprise that Starmer is doing so badly in the polls because you see, he is just to recap, he is completely falling apart.
	Starmer's head of communication, Steph Driver quit in latest number 10 exit, and this of course is on top of uh the uh Mandelson Mandelson going of that guy, Ovendon going, obviously Rayner going, uh McSweeney rumors of Sarma shouting at McSweeney, you're supposed to protect me, which just sounds hilarious.
	Isn't isn't McSweeney under some sort of investigation for uh like embezzling 750,000 pounds.
	40,000 pounds, yeah, yeah, exactly.
	She's a big deal, she's the equivalent of like Alistair Campbell.
	Your head of communications in number ten is an absolutely pivotal.
	I see McSweeney as the Campbell, but maybe, or maybe McSweeney's the Cummings and she's the Campbell, yeah, maybe it's chief of staff.
	She's the one who projects the message out to the public, that's what she's in charge of doing.
	So losing that person, that's that's a bit bad.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh a little over a week after that of director of policy strategy, so it ain't good, it ain't good.
	The wheels are coming off of the Starmer regime.
	Yeah, indeed.
	So this is what I mean with the the the digital ideas being the Hail Mary.
	You can think things are falling apart.
	There's challenges coming within the Labour Party.
	They're like, right, we need to get the Blair Institute on board, digital ID.
	It's like you're just that is the end.
	You're gonna drive yourselves into the ground.
	Labour does absolutely feel like it's a cornered yes, feral animal.
	Yes.
	With nothing left to lose apart from to strike out with everything it's got left.
	Yes, yeah, yeah.
	Hopefully, it kills the party finally.
	But sorry, Karen.
	Just cause no, just because I'm a normie from mainstream television news, a veteran, really.
	I thought we'd look at, you know, who is Andy Burnham, what are his policy ideas?
	It's kind of a mainstream piece.
	And um so Burnham, he was uh in Brown's cabinet, he was once a Blairite, now he's sort of socialist soft left.
	He ran for leader in 2015.
	That describes Brown.
	Was it yeah?
	He's true, he was ahead, but he then he got fairly trounced by Corbyn, and his pitch was pretty vague, as um actually Matthew Torbett suggested earlier.
	I look because I love this bit where his announcement, where's it his uh where is it?
	Oh yeah, he his announcement involved a promise to rediscover the beating heart of Labour and appeal to the aspirations of everyone.
	It's the most like vague nothing he picked.
	Oh that was a bit of a problem with his pitch, whereas Corbin was a bit clearer in his beliefs.
	Uh so then he became king in the north.
	They actually say king of the north, but in in Game of Thrones, it's king in the north by being becoming mayor of Manchester.
	And he won he won that convincingly three times to be fair to him.
	Uh and so they like him up there.
	And if you want to understand him, this new statesman piece is pretty good, which is Andy Burnham's plan for Britain.
	And I'm not actually going to scroll around it because it's too big and complicated, and I'll piss around the scroller.
	But basically, he is born in Aintree, which is Liverpool pretty much, but he moved to Culchith, which is more considered Manchester, though it's about equidistant between them.
	So basically, there's an anecdote in here where he goes to the football, it's Everton versus Man City, and the city fans start chanting you scouse bastard, to which the Everton fans would reply, you mank bastard.
	So he's hated by both, but he's also potentially loved by both in that big sort of northern area.
	If you've ever sort of gone across the area in the Northwest, and I'm obviously 52.2% Northwestern in my DNA, so I understand all this.
	This is the big massive area of loads of houses there.
	It's Warrington sort of area, and there's a lot of people there, and they do like Burnham.
	As the piece says, he's chauffeured from office to home from visit to visit, as if he's prime minister of the north, and there's all these people stopping him to chat and things like this.
	And so in that northern world, he he's he's loved, and something quite or loved by many.
	Something quite strange, he says is that he identifies as British first, North West second, Liverpool third, and English fourth.
	So to keep the different layers of his identity.
	That is a that's quite strange, isn't it?
	I I can't have but notice he's got very scouse physiognomy as well.
	Yes.
	He looks like a scouter.
	That's true.
	Like it's you know, so it can't be easy in Manchester for it.
	He's got Irish roots as well, from his grandparents, and he's like as many scouts have.
	But British first, North West second.
	Because I I always think of myself as Lakes First, Cumbria, North, England, Britain.
	But that that's that's concentric, it makes sense.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Britain, Britain, North West, Liverpool, English.
	I'm like, this is all over the place.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But anyway, that's how we the American dating system.
	I'm very, very firmly South East, but I just consider myself an Englishman, first and foremost, and not much else.
	Yeah, same as just English.
	I might say northern, but yeah, you're I basically drill down to into it if I needed to.
	Why would I?
	I mean, yeah, I've seen myself as English.
	This is it's this weird thing about Britain.
	So he wants to go back in the EU, he's pretty clear about that.
	It says he likes unions, including the one the UK had until recently with the continent, a union he hopes is eventually restored.
	Of course he does.
	And he even says it uh it says Burnham uh wants Labour to make a stronger argument about Brexit having been a mistake.
	Oh that's very, very clear.
	Um obviously it plays simply against Farage, Mr. Brexit.
	So and loads of people still want to go back in.
	I know these people, I play football with them.
	Um Burnham wants to see a complete overhaul of asylum policy, not leaving the ECHR, but ending the system in which asylum seekers are settled around the country by the home office, which he describes as atrocious and dangerous.
	So what are we doing?
	Put him in a concentration camp.
	I'm not quite sure, but he's right that it's dangerous.
	Yeah, it does.
	And he was a disciple of Blair and Brown.
	Yeah.
	That's still is essentially.
	That's all you need to know.
	That's all you need to know.
	And where's eye line?
	Sorry, does he wear eyeliner or not?
	I don't know.
	Do you not notice?
	He does look like he is, but the thing is sometimes you just people look like that.
	Some of the people used to say that to me at school, and I wasn't.
	I got it.
	I just have thick eyelashes.
	Yeah, so let's let's find out on that.
	Do some deep research, bro.
	Um he wants proportional representation.
	He says the idea of a government elected on a minority of the vote is untenable.
	So that's fairly radical.
	He wants uh maximum devolution to England's regions, which I'm not sure means actual devolution, just just more power to the north and so on, which is convinced will allow the state to control the amount of spending on welfare and social housing.
	And it may as well just be Blair speaking.
	Yeah, he wants the mansion tax, he wants to change the council tax ban.
	So he's never had an original thought.
	So it's a commie.
	Got it.
	Yeah, and the other thing is you say he's a commie, but is he like is he the new trust?
	Because the scale of borrowing he's talking about is already spooking the market.
	So Financial Times, Andy Burnham's borrowing plans would spook guilt market investors war.
	Wow.
	So some people I've even seen pictures.
	I didn't it was too disturbing to put it on the screen of him as trust in a kind of mashup.
	But um, He people are worried about his 40 billion that he wants here to build council houses alongside a mass nationalisation programme.
	So they're worried already.
	We got 40 billion just under the couch cushions, do we?
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's a great question.
	Where's this money gonna come from?
	So he's just another Labour guy who doesn't understand spending.
	And I quite like the quote here uh where someone said it was a uh we basically I can't find it.
	It was about gr let me see if I can find it.
	Need to borrow tens of billions so we can nationalise stuff.
	Yeah.
	Good plan.
	So we can build houses for foreigners.
	And even Starmer has basically said no, no, this won't work.
	Here's the quote I liked.
	Burnham downplayed such concerns.
	We've got to get beyond this thing of being in hock to the bond markets.
	Uh one ally of Starmer said it's like telling someone on a ledge not to worry about gravity.
	So yeah, we can't just not worry about the bond markets.
	And the bond markets are worse than when Trust was in charge anyway.
	So like things are as bad as worse than they've ever been.
	But anyway.
	Yeah.
	And if they do you know, obviously he'll fix nothing if they win, but but we couldn't afford his spending plans anyway, is the point.
	Those are just an overview of his policies.
	But as you say, Bo, and as Nick Buckley put it quite well here, um oh no, oh that's Tom Slayer.
	Oh well, well, fair.
	Tom Slater made an interesting point that he Burnham claims to be like, oh, I'm not really Mr. Westminster, blah de blah, but actually he is much more Westminster than he claims, as you've also said, Andy Burnham, a man who was so alienated by Westminster, he worked in it for 20 years.
	No ideology beyond his own career advancement, but he says lad a lot and wears jeans, so obviously he's a breath of fresh air.
	I think a lot of it is that people in the Westminster Bobble have never seen a northerner and they're just sort of baffled by giving me well, where's Angela Rayner for him from?
	True, but she didn't do very well, she's gone, so he's the new northerner.
	They've only got two.
	One of them's gone.
	Yeah, yeah, true.
	Anyway, but he does play a lot on the northern thing.
	But as you point out, Bo, and Nick Buckley says a Blairite, a brown eye, a Corbonite and a Starmright walk into a Manchester bar, the barman asks, What are you having, Andy?
	So he's he's been all of them at one time or another, and he still says he'll work with Corbin, so it's like, well, what are you, Andy, apart from an affable bloke with a pint and eyeliner?
	Um, he won't leave the ECHR, he says.
	Right, yeah.
	So nothing will change.
	So he he's got no intention of stopping us being invaded.
	Yeah.
	So therefore he's an enemy, as far as I'm concerned.
	So I don't care that he's reasonably affable.
	And he's just gonna carry on.
	He's just carry on the boy Labour agenda as well.
	So it's it's more of the same, right?
	He's Blair and Brown to the core.
	With with an additional thing, which is the northern loyalty, which I can tell you as a northerner, is pretty fierce.
	I mean, to this day I think of my home as the lakes.
	I'm I've lived in London nearly 20 years.
	It's like we are totally ridiculously tribal.
	Think about how tribal Liverpool is.
	It's virtually a separate communist country, and Manchester not quite as crazy, but still very fiercely sort of where Manchester.
	So he will get big votes in the north, because that's just just northern loyalty.
	It's just how it is.
	So that that is an advantage to the.
	I hate to say it's been in the interest of time and got a move on.
	I'll just very quickly end then, because it uh someone on your point, the big issue of Andy Burnham is that he's a political equivalent of this haircut, attempted accepted in Manchester, but it's an objective ridicule everywhere else.
	Yeah, I don't understand why Manchinians have haircuts like this.
	They have a coats because it's always raining, they have like really white trainers they're proud of, and they have this haircut.
	I don't is it did Oasis do this to them?
	It's poor well at that.
	Yeah, that pool where uh Noel Gallagher Yeah, but it's like uh I've only ever I associate that haircut with Oasis.
	I don't understand why they do it.
	It's weird in it.
	And anyway, in closing, because we've got to end.
	Uh I'm from the North.
	I say I'm not an MP and I don't understand economics.
	I think I have a decent chance of becoming Labour leader.
	That's all I'm saying.
	That's all you need these days.
	Not even an MP, as you said.
	Alright, that's my bit.
	Good luck to you.
	Um right, sorry.
	Uh past the mouse every thing.
	So I will quickly go through a couple of super chats that have come in.
	Um I tend to view Ferrars a bit like Admiral Kolchak.
	Isolated flawed, bad at making and keeping allies, but still normally preferable to the Bolsheviks.
	Uh yes.
	That's basically it, isn't it?
	Um yeah, apparently uh Raja Mir says he has evidence of Andy being involved in the cover up the grooming gangs.
	No idea, but I'm sure it will come out if and when it does.
	Um and uh put the handbags away, what are you talking about?
	Like Bo Bo's uh criticism of his eyeliner is completely legitimate.
	He's gone.
	There's some pictures of Andy Burnham where it's like dude, do you same with JD Vance?
	It look yeah, they're probably not, they've probably just got really thick eyelashes, but it looks like we can do.
	Alright, so Have you heard that uh a former FBI director, Jim Comey, has been indicted on a couple of different counts by a grand jury in America.
	Have you seen this?
	Have you heard about this?
	So is this Trump actually doing something against his political enemies?
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	I heard a lot of people complaining that actually he wasn't going after his enemies.
	Well, not quickly enough.
	So w one of the things he said uh recently did uh a tweet on Truth Social saying um giving Pam Bondy the the hurry up.
	Uh oh here we go.
	So yeah, this was only a few days ago, a couple of days ago.
	He says, Pam, I've reviewed over 30 statements and posts saying that essentially s like at at the Justice of uh Department of Justice.
	Same old story as last time, all talk, no action, nothing is being done.
	What about Comey, Adam Shifty Shift, Letitia?
	They're all guilty as hell, and then it's Trump going.
	This is uh they're all guilty as hell, but nothing is going to be done.
	Uh then we almost put in a Democrat.
	Oh, he goes on to talk about how they're guilty as hell how the um how the Department of Justice isn't taking down the likes of Comey and Schiff.
	Right.
	So get your ass in gear.
	But this is great because it shows us exactly what the problem is, right?
	Because a lot of people in the activist space are like, Trump isn't actually persecuting his opponents.
	Why not?
	We want him to actually go after them.
	And Trump himself is like, why are we not persecuting our opponents?
	Why aren't we going?
	So the problem is obviously the layer in between.
	So he should basically be threatening, look, do it by tomorrow I'll fire you.
	That's what he should be doing.
	Or all all almost it's sort of threatening her or chiding her.
	Yeah, get it done, get it done.
	In front of millions of people.
	Um and so a grand jury, which, you know, we don't have grand juries in Britain, but it is a a jury in the sense that it's a bunch of normal people, just completely normal citizens.
	So the idea that that somehow Trump has got Comey um on trial, it's like, well, yeah, not really.
	You can put pressure on Pam Bondy and she can um you know instigate a grand jury, but then ultimately it's up to these normal people to decide whether Comey's got uh questions to answer or not at a full trial.
	And they decided it was.
	Right.
	So anyway, he came out, let's watch a few seconds of what his sort of response to this was.
	My family and I have known for years that there are costs to standing up to Donald Trump.
	But we couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way.
	We will not live on our knees.
	And you shouldn't either.
	Somebody that I love dearly recently said that fear is the tool of a tyrant, and she's right.
	But I'm not afraid.
	And I hope you're not either.
	I hope instead you are engaged, you are paying attention, and you will vote like your beloved country depends upon it.
	Which it does.
	My heart is broken for the Department of Justice, but I have great confidence in the federal judicial system, and I'm innocent.
	So let's have a trial.
	Didn't you spy on Trump's campaign?
	Yeah, you're probably not innocent.
	Almost almost certainly not innocent, but okay, okay, James, if you say so.
	Alright, so what is what is it actually that he's being charged with and stuff like that?
	So it's one count of making false statements and another of obstruction of justice.
	So it's basically lying under oath, perjury.
	Yeah.
	Um in in con uh when you're speaking to Congress in September 2020, uh, he stood by statements he'd made a few years earlier, and it seems like those were liars.
	Right, okay.
	So that's that's a type of perjury where it's just lying under oath, misleading.
	Well, sorry, obstruction of justice and false statements.
	So even if he is found guilty of this, he will only be looking I say only, but he's looking at something like five years, not like twenty years or something.
	Not the end of the world, but it's something.
	But yeah.
	Um okay, where to begin the story?
	Because it is a bit of a sordid winding and wending story.
	How do we get to this place?
	Well, it goes all the way back to Trump's first uh uh um attempt to become president in 2016.
	If you remember there was a thing, crossfire hurricane they called it.
	Remember the steel dossier.
	Yeah.
	I.e.
	Piss Dossier.
	Yeah, i.e., uh Obama and Hillary and perhaps probably James Comey sitting in a in a room saying, how are we gonna destroy Trump?
	How are we gonna make sure Hillary wins in 16?
	How are we gonna destroy him?
	And so actually, with some of the help of intelligence uh British intelligence services, they come up with the steel dossier.
	Christopher Steel.
	Talk about incompetence, by the way.
	Yeah, that worked, didn't they?
	He won twice and started a whole lot of things.
	Only twice is it the only one.
	Two to three times and uh and just a slight aside, but isn't crossfire hurricane such a boomer thing to call it anyway, that's of no real importance.
	Make sure you think of like cross swords anyway, go.
	You can just imagine like Hillary Clinton going, let's call it crossfire hurricane.
	And Obama going, Yes, love it.
	We're gonna take him down.
	Um, in that, Um, you know, uh Comey was sort of a key part.
	He was he was the head that he was Obama's head of the FBI.
	Yeah, he was at the top of the FBI.
	So if anyone was going to essentially they you can imagine that Hillary and Obama say to him, Comey, uh, get stuff on Trump.
	And if there isn't anything, make it up.
	Essentially, essentially.
	This was very much I just remember Trump turning on him, but this being like very much the area where Trump was working with all his enemies because he didn't really understand the system that that 2016 first term.
	When he was in his first term, didn't it?
	A little bit, yeah.
	It was months before he actually got around to the that's been day one.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And no this in uh the the second term uh Cash Patel like straight away in.
	Right?
	He immediately put his guys in charge, understanding that you just can't leave the uh previous ones in.
	And so to continue the narrative, once Trump get in, it was a few months, a few weeks or months before he got rid of Kanye, but then he got rid of Comey, Camy becomes like an arch going on like the view and stuff and just constantly caning Trump, but okay, you can expect that, I suppose.
	Uh but then so Mueller, Robert Mueller, there was that report that took ages to come out to find out was there anything true to to the steel dossier and all that sort of thing.
	Was Trump was Trump truly sort of some sort of Putin Manchurian candidate?
	Uh Russia Russia.
	Yeah.
	And Mueller comes out and eventually says basically there's nothing there.
	Um, you know, which was a a real pain to the MSNBC CNN types.
	Um, you know, like a problem most effective.
	Yeah, Rachel Madell.
	Yeah.
	And then after that, there was there's the the the Durham John Durham investigation.
	So, like, if there was nothing there, how did any of this even really happen?
	And they go into that, and he sort of uh a little bit wishy-washy in my opinion, says, Yeah, the FBI probably should have realized they were dealing with duff information, and we'll leave it at that right.
	And by now it's all by this time, nearly there's like well, obviously, during the Biden years, they don't prosecute Comey and others like him, because of course they don't, yeah, because it's Biden.
	He's their guy, obviously.
	But now we're back in second Trump, we're now in 47, so he's going after it.
	And even then, Bondy and the like were like um dragging their feet, taking their feet.
	Yeah.
	So he had to actually sort of um you know, push on it a bit.
	Um so we've got a cash patel here saying today, I think this was only yesterday, or is it even today?
	Yesterday, uh Patel comes out and says, Today your FBI took another step in its promise of full accountability for far too long previous corrupt leadership and their enablers weaponized federal law enforcement, damaging once proud institutions and severely eroding public trust every day.
	You get it, you go on and on on.
	And um Bondy made uh a similar sort of noises.
	No one is above the law.
	Today's indictment reflects this Department of Justice's commitment to holding those who abuse uh positions of power accountable for misleading the American people.
	We will follow the facts in the case.
	Okay.
	Great.
	So yeah.
	Right.
	Like actually something's happening.
	Beginning to drain the swamps.
	Yeah, something's actually happening to the people who did something wrong.
	Yeah, fantastic.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So it was a series of memos, Mr. Comey detailing his conversations with Trump were disclosed to the media in 2017.
	So he went before um uh um uh uh a congressional committee in 2017, and um just basically didn't really tell the truth.
	I mean, let's watch a few seconds of this, just to give you an idea.
	Oops, what happened there?
	Can we get that back up, please, Samson?
	You get that back up, please, Samson.
	Play that you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God.
	Please receive it.
	Do you have any doubt that Russia attempted to interfere in the 2016 elections?
	None.
	There should be no fuzz on this whatsoever.
	The Russians interfered in our election during the 2016 cycle.
	They did it with purpose, they did it with sophistication, they did it with overwhelming technical efforts.
	And it was an active measures campaign driven from the top of that government.
	There is no fuzz on that.
	It's not about Republicans or Democrats.
	They're coming after America, which I hope we all love equally.
	They want to undermine our credibility in the face of the world.
	They think that this great experiment of ours is a threat to them.
	And so they're going to try to run it down and dirty it up as much as possible.
	That's what this is about, and they will be back because we remain as as difficult as we can be with each other.
	We remain that shining city on the hill, and they don't like it.
	But after that briefing, you felt compelled to document that conversation that you actually started documenting it as soon as you got into the car.
	I was honestly concerned that he might lie about the nature of our meeting, and so I thought it really important to document.
	This was the only president that you felt like in every meeting you needed a document because at some point, using your words, he might put out a non-truthful representation of that meeting.
	That's right, Senator.
	And I I Okay.
	So this is this is the crux.
	Out of the many liars and the many sort of probably criminal things that James Comey has done, the thing that they're getting him on here is that back in that window in 2016-2017, he had meetings with Trump, and then he went on to tell someone, probably McCabe, his deputy, he went on to tell some people what was being said, and they leaked it to the press.
	And then later he said he didn't do that.
	Right.
	And that's that's a liar.
	I mean, again, out of all the liar.
	Very trivial.
	Right.
	To me, you always sound suspect when you start going, look, that shining city on the hill, and like all this sort of rubbish.
	Like just give us the facts.
	Why are you giving us a weird little seminar about your lame bees?
	Also being like the Russians are like, you know, the the experts in digital warfare and all this.
	It's like, are they that good though?
	I'm not sure they're that good.
	There's all sorts of other details about Michael Flynn and uh we won't get into it.
	But Reuters' writers put it quite well under uh an article they wrote where what what is Comey actually accused of lying about?
	They said U.S. prosecutors alleged Comey made false statements when he s when he stood behind 2017 Senate sorry it's a Senate testimony in which he said he did not disclose or approve the disclosure of information in the news media, the FBI investigations into into either Trump or his 2016 opponent uh uh Hillary Hillary Clinton.
	And in in 2020, he said, I stand by the testimony you summarized that I gave in May 2017.
	Boom.
	That's wrong.
	That's sort of they they the federal government, Pam Bondi's Department of Defense, are pretty sure that's a liar.
	Right.
	And we can get you on that.
	Okay.
	So that's what it is.
	That's what's going on here.
	Yep.
	That's what's going on here.
	So I mean, people Trump's quite funny.
	He just calls him like he's a sick man.
	He's sick, he's a bad man.
	Um got another clip here.
	Uh I think it's worth just watching, it's not very long.
	But this so this is from this is the 2020 thing.
	It's being done remotely because we're in the middle of COVID.
	But let's just watch this is the crux of it.
	Can you turn it up, please, Samson?
	Or a member of his administration ask the FBI to investigate the Trump campaign, your answer would be not only no, but hell no.
	Did President Obama or Vice President Biden ever ask you to investigate a political rival or to go easy on a political rival?
	Never.
	Why would that have been problematic?
	Because it would compromise the independence of the Justice Department and the FBI's work.
	If it's a criminal case or a counterintelligence case, it would introduce politics into what should be a fact-driven process.
	Oh, are you concerned Trump will embrace and use Russian interference efforts to his advantage?
	Excuse me, as he did in 2016.
	Well, I'm a private citizen now, so as a private citizen, yes, and he said that he wouldn't have to be able to do that.
	How could the director of the FBI not know all of this?
	How is it possible that the system gathers so much its culpatory information?
	So he's asking, you didn't how did you not know that the steel dossier was was bullshit?
	How did you start?
	That the actual interview of the subsource disavows the reliability of the document that the actual subsource was a spectral Russian spy.
	How could all that happen and not get up to you, the director of the FBI of one of the most important investigations in the history of the FBI?
	How is that possible?
	I can only speculate because it didn't.
	And as I said, the investigation overall was incredibly important.
	The piece you're focused on is obviously important, but a much smaller slice.
	Okay.
	So I mean it's a pretty flimsy thing.
	Yeah, isn't it really?
	Um so a tiny bit more detail just on the actual charges, and then we'll talk about uh the wider implications of all of this.
	The BBC says uh the first count relates to Mr. Comey telling the Senate Judiciary Committee that he had, quote, authorised someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports, quote, regarding his conversations with Trump over the FBI investigation into whether Russia meddled with the 2016 presidential election.
	The second count relate uh alleges that Mr. Comey, quote, did corruptly endeavour to influence, obstruct and impede uh the Senate Judiciary Committee investigation by making false state false statements in it.
	So again, a type of perjury, just just lying under oath.
	So all right.
	So um, yeah, I guess the wider thing to talk about then is because all the everyone's crawling out of the woodwork, people like um uh Schumer, Chuck Schumer, everyone on the left, saying this is just Trump acting as a tyrant.
	Um this is simply this is simply uh like law affair going too far.
	Sorry, do you not remember the four years of lawfare you conducted against Trump and all of his allies?
	Like Bannon went to jail for uh who was the other guy who went to jail.
	Yeah, Navarro Navarro, there was another guy as well that I was thinking of.
	Um well, Rudy Giuliani was was in some sort of Yeah, Rudy Giuliani was attacked.
	Uh Roger Stow and then Stone.
	Yeah.
	When they raid Marilago for the same crime that Biden had done and it was like good fellows when they just they just that Robert De Neu moment just could go back them all.
	And then you've got the New York Attorney General who was going after his properties in the city.
	That's right, yeah.
	Uh and so the idea that they can be like, well, I mean, this is just lawfare.
	It's like, yeah, well, I mean, maybe it is, but who did this first?
	And also, right, who did it first, sure, absolutely.
	But the even more sort of at the core of it is do you go after people that broke the law and did the wrong thing?
	Like this idea, this consensus that you just simply don't go after people that held high office after the fact because it's sort of just it's just not gentlemanly, it's not cricket, it's just not how we do it, it's un-American.
	No, no, bullshit.
	Well, that's actually off the table.
	You broke, yeah, that's all you you took that off the table.
	But also, no, if people did something really, really bad and illegal, they should be held to account for it.
	Yes and I'm afraid.
	It's as simple as that.
	Not controversial at all.
	Uh let's hear what uh the doctor.
	It seems like an indictment of James Comey is imminent.
	Uh, would this be the first step in accountability for pushing the hoax of Russia, Russia, Russia, along with Barack Obama involved as well.
	Well, I can't tell you what's gonna happen because I don't know, you have very professional people, uh, headed up by the attorney general and Todd Todd Blanch and uh Lindsay Halligan, who's very smart, good lawyer, very good lawyer.
	Uh they're gonna make a determination.
	I'm not making that determination.
	I I think I'd be allowed to get involved if it wants, but I don't really choose to do so.
	I can only say that uh Comey's a bad person, he's a sick person.
	I think he's a sick guy, actually.
	He did terrible things at the FBI.
	I agree.
	And uh but I I don't know, I have no idea what's gonna happen.
	Okay.
	I I I won't get involved, but he's a sick guy.
	Really sick.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Neo Realists has sent a su a super chat which summarises the the thing perfectly.
	Come he testified to Cruz that he didn't authorise leaks.
	Andrew McCabe says Comey ordered him to leak.
	So one of them is lying because they both can't be telling the truth.
	And so that's it.
	Yeah.
	So is sort of the the again, I suppose sort of the wider uh uh the wider question, wider debate is a is about um whether Trump is becoming or that's what the left want to try and make this out into Trump becoming like a sula type.
	Yes.
	Um, you Marians began the prescriptions.
	So, oh no, now our opponents have come back and they're prescribing us.
	Oh well, who started that?
	The funny thing is there's a statute of limitations on Comey's alleged crimes that was gonna be up on Tuesday, next Tuesday.
	So, in other words, the Department of Justice left it right up to the bell.
	Yeah, and they went, nope we're gonna get you thought you'd be able to get away with it.
	Uh nope.
	That's probably why Trump was putting loads of pressure.
	I mean, he did put quite a lot of pressure on.
	So this is the case is being caught uh being brought against Comey in Virginia as I understand it.
	And um he I think personally, I think Oprah said that he removed the prosecutor there, the federal prosecutor that was gonna not bring charges against Comey.
	He removed them and put his own pick in there, sort of make sure it happened, and then lent on Bondy to some degree to sort of make sure it happens, you know, before the statue of statute of limitations is up.
	Um but the other thing to sort of talk about is whether this is sort of just kind of the beginning again.
	Whether he will go after um Adam Skiff and uh Schiff, uh Letitia James, and a number of other people.
	Hillary Clinton.
	Why isn't she in jail?
	With is this him truly now beginning to do it.
	He's called Obama a traitor, he said Obama committing treason, right?
	Okay, well why is he still free?
	I think but Obama as an ex actual president has got various protections, but nonetheless, everyone short of Obama.
	Um is this Trump now finally, after his promises all the way back in 2016 to drain the swamp, he's actually draining the swamp now.
	He's actually beginning to drain the swamp.
	He seems to he seems to genuinely want them all to go down, doesn't he?
	Yeah.
	So he needs to get his uh administration in gear.
	He says, you know, they did it to me.
	Yeah.
	They did it to me.
	Justice must be served.
	Yeah.
	So basically, Mr. President, you're gonna have to fire the people who aren't doing it and put more radical people in charge.
	Yeah.
	It's just how it's gonna have to be if they're not gonna do it.
	And the thing is, you probably would have to start, well, you kind of do have to start with the FBI to some degree.
	Yes.
	Um, because a lot of things sort of radiate out from the FBI.
	Um and in my opinion, I've said this before, um, the FBI is as is as dirty as it gets.
	The idea that they're that they're above politics in some way.
	No, no, no.
	They have always from day one, from Jacob Hoover, day one of being a tool of the establishment.
	Wasn't wasn't the 100.
	FBI just created by executive fias as well.
	I th something like that, yeah.
	It's not in the constitution, obviously.
	No, right.
	So it's just yeah, the founding fathers said nothing about the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
	I'm reasonably sure it was just done by uh an executive order.
	It was like the Red Scare or the second red scare, whatever it was.
	They've got so many of these things, it's not just API, is it?
	You've got the NSA and all you've got loads of these things for the previous regime.
	Uh well, I had loads more just to say in general about the FBI about what a sort of a cess pit it is.
	What a truly sort of dangerous thing, an unconstitutional thing, I think.
	I said that once before on here, and m nearly all the comments were like, yeah, like from Americans.
	Yeah.
	It was like, yeah, we hate the FBI.
	Oh, yeah, the Americans.
	We hate living under the tyranny of the FBI.
	The Americans are uh they do not have like scales in front of their eyes when it comes to all of this.
	Yeah.
	They know they know.
	Yeah.
	I mean, so one last thing out of a million things I could mention about how bad and dirty the FBI are.
	Uh recently it was disclosed here that rank and file FBI agents after January 6th claimed political bias, infected operations, feeling like, quote, pawns in a political war, quote, yeah, well, yeah, yeah.
	Well, I guess that's because you were in the crowd encouraging people to go into the bloody thing.
	Or you're working for Twitter, encouraging them to take down posts that were critical of Biden or against COVID or whatever it is.
	Like you've been an active agent of the Democrat Party for years.
	Like we could list off just thing after thing that the FBI has done.
	Oh good, yeah, yeah.
	And according to Disclosure.tv that according to an after action report held within uh held from withheld from the public for over four years, that the FBI had 274 plainclothes agents embedded in the January 16th.
	Oh, there we go.
	Wow.
	I don't know, it's that many.
	I knew about Ray Epps.
	I didn't know there was 274 of it.
	And there are so many like FBI honey pots where they turns out to mostly be FBI agents.
	Yeah.
	It's just like feds on feds.
	And then you've got like the 1993 World Trade Centre bombing, which is just essentially an entire FBI plot.
	That was uh I'm I'm correct about that, right?
	There's an argument to be made.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	So it's it's like, yeah, these these things have probably on YouTube.
	There's there's a whole stream like I'm very suspicious about the Las Vegas shooter and his own.
	Well, yeah, I mean, yeah.
	There's so many examples.
	What happened to him?
	Where did it go?
	Many examples.
	But okay, it looks like well, Comey is definitely gonna go on trial.
	Great.
	And he, if found guilty, which is actually, as I understand it, it's actually quite a hard case for the prosecutors to prove because it's just uh my word versus someone else's word.
	But if he fails, he could get five years in prison.
	And he's the first FBI or ex FBI director ever to be put up on charges like this.
	Right.
	That's just what kind of prison, isn't it?
	How if it was one of those really like low security ones where you play tennis, or is it one of those because Obama put Dinesh DeSouz in prison, remember?
	Did he?
	I didn't know that.
	Yeah, but it was one of those ones where he could sometimes go back at night, but it was like, but he was in there with proper cons.
	But it was yeah, yeah, yeah.
	You got like the end of the year.
	It was for a minor thing to do with campaign donations, just as another example of using law fair.
	I just wonder what it would be like in prison for coming.
	On that note, let's go to the video comments.
	Oh, yeah.
	Um Dylan says, I always get a kick whenever Bo wears his MAGA hat.
	I have one of the St. George's Cross to show my solidarity with your fight for England.
	Well, thank you very much, sir.
	Um and uh Foupa says Obama bin Blair for Emperor of the World.
	Unfortunately, that's kind of what we're getting.
	That's basically the the the global technocratic order.
	Let's go.
	Some months ago, Carl went to visit the King Alfred classical Christian school there in Dudley, the private school, and tell us about its plight.
	Unfortunately, if you go and visit now, you'll find their websites offline because the school has had to close down in the end.
	They cite several reasons.
	Uh I think this line here is quite interesting.
	They need a less hostile government.
	Think about that.
	A government less hostile to classical Christian education.
	Crazy.
	Yeah, they they warned me that basically this was the last hope that they had, and that's why I did the video.
	But um but the point is the the landlord, as they said, r raise the rents, uh so they were hoping to move somewhere else, but you needed hundreds of thousands of pounds, and of course the government increasing the V or removing the VAT exemption on private schools had meant that fewer people were able to go.
	That was what they meant.
	That's what they Oh yeah, that was the point that was the point, yeah.
	Yeah, and so yeah, well, that's how that changes in future.
	Carl, on the issue of uh Erica Kirk saying I forgive you to the killer of her husband, you should watch a movie called The Shack with Sam Worthington.
	You're probably not gonna like all of it, not all of it is that good, but there is a really really good message in there about forgiveness.
	So look into it.
	I appreciate the suggestion, but I don't want to.
	Yeah, I hope the message is you want to forgive anyone.
	Don't forgive them.
	I don't think that's the message.
	Yeah, alright, I don't yeah, I don't I was talking to my Vicar friend about this, Reverend Dr. Jamie Franklin, you can forgive while I think Ferrar's pretty much said the same, while m wanting justice and the two are completely coherent in Christianity, you can say we want justice for this, but you can still forgive them on a sort of spiritual level, but you still still demand justice and the two not are not opposed.
	Either way, I don't forgive him.
	Did you see what Frente?
	I don't forgive a murderer, no.
	I don't see why I need to.
	Did you see what Fuentes said today about that?
	He said um he thinks he was he thought she was act far too much of a sort of an actor, and he thinks that they were set up in an arranged marriage because she's taken over turning point so smoothly.
	And he's like, How do they meet?
	Who set them up?
	It's because he needed a wife to be uh someone in office in the future and so on.
	That's a bit cynical.
	Interesting theory.
	I'm sure they well, I mean, I don't know, but like I'm sure that's not true.
	Um anyway, let's go to the website comments.
	Uh Justin says, I laugh when they say the digital idea will cut down illegal working.
	People who break the law to hire illegal immigrants are really going to register them well enough to actually need an ID.
	Exactly.
	Like they're in the dark economy anyway, anyway.
	You're only going to penalise people who work in the legitimate economy.
	That's just the only way they're the only people who could possibly be affected by this.
	Zesty King says, There is only one man who can save us from digital IDs, and he is Ed Millerband.
	Think about it, you can't have Digitac ID without electricity, he's secretly saving it all.
	Good point.
	Yeah, we can end up like the Spain uh cascading failure in their electricity grid, and Ed Billaband has actually saved the country.
	The new digital ideal work on wind power.
	Why can't we get David Millerband back?
	If we're gonna parachute uh Andy Burnham.
	No.
	I'm not joking.
	But if we're gonna parachute Burnham in out of nowhere, why not parachute Dave back in?
	Dave needs his vengeance, Dave needs final vengeance.
	Yeah, and stuff.
	You Need to complete his arc.
	I need to see him eating a baking sandwich and then we'll judge.
	Uh Justin says no one will need to hack the database to get the information.
	The government will stand up selling it to anyone who wants it.
	Yeah, I know.
	We we can't object to the terms and conditions if it's mandatory.
	That's a great point.
	Like you know, there's literally it's such an insane idea.
	Kevin Fox says uh so they bring the in the digital ID, and part of that you have to take selfie.
	Yeah, there's three hours of your life you won't get back, plus it would need to have your print fingerprints too.
	So who in government is getting a kickback from Samsung, Huawei, Apple, etc.
	Of all the sales and the most expensive phones, allow fingerprint reading.
	Yeah, again, the the barrier to entry is you are going to have to have a smartphone.
	So I mean what the gut is the government going to issue me a smartphone that I have to use for it.
	That's it quite right, it's a good point.
	The next thing will be surely will be the biometric data.
	We need to scan your iris and get your fingerprints.
	It's gonna be literally.
	So there's no escape.
	There's no escape.
	It's actually the demolition man future.
	Yeah, I was gonna say that before, actually.
	So that's actually what they're working towards.
	Um quick note on the digital ID nonsense, they have to put out a consultation about what to do with people without a smartphone or the elderly.
	The solution would be most likely uh this idea they had for the COVID app, um, and you can apply for a dumbed down smartwatch you were on your wrist or just have your idea on.
	Oddly convenient they design that now.
	So you get tagged, basically, if you don't have a smartphone, it's like great.
	It's great.
	I'm not gonna I'm not going to be able to do that.
	I'm not tagged.
	I'm not going along with this.
	Um welcome City 17, it's safer here.
	Mega City One.
	Yeah, uh honestly though, it really is.
	It's demolition, man.
	You know, so that's that's the future they're trying to drill us into.
	They would vote for us.
	Uh we need to move the delusionary window back to where the labour current labor policy isn't even a fringe fancy.
	Uh yeah, it's it's mental.
	Um Lady Sarcastro says, Don't talk down Burnham, Nick.
	Never interfere when your enemy is making a mistake.
	I didn't talk I just gave a deep dive BBC style har you know, hard journalism insight into how his mind works.
	What makes him tick?
	What makes you tick Andy Burnham?
	Who is that?
	What's his relationship with his dad?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Who's the man behind the politics?
	That's the kind of thing I do.
	Yeah.
	Lancelot says the Starmanet funding bill is passed, the system goes online on October the fourth, twenty twenty five.
	Human decisions are removed from strategic defence.
	Starmanet begins to learn at a geometric rate.
	It becomes self-aware at 2 14 AM Eastern time, October the 29th.
	In a panic, they try to pull the plug.
	Starmanet fights back.
	I mean, like, what one of the one of the points that Tony Blair has been making is like, no, we need to use I uh AI in order to manage the system.
	So great, the AI will have access to all of your information and be able to make decisions within the system based on your information at lightning speed.
	Isn't that just a brilliant idea, guys?
	Don't we just want that to happen?
	Well, we finally find out about Starmer's living arrangements.
	I don't want to get anyone sued.
	I just want to know.
	Because if everyone if all the information is out there, I want to know all Starmer's information.
	Anyway, sorry, that was a straight thought.
	If someone said uh make like five or ten or fifteen bullet points of the quickest way to a dystopia, yeah.
	I would just be doing that all that all that.
	Exactly.
	Give us a way dystopian and we're not dying.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, that's the thing.
	Make make the AI in charge of everything that you're allowed to do and give it all of the information it could ever possibly have and give it the ability to intercede in anything that you do.
	Yeah, I can easily imagine Starmer just act saying the quiet part, this is not like demolition man.
	Yeah, no, demolition man would be a lot less intrusive, actually.
	Like I just get fined for swearing in demolition man.
	Unless I go hungry.
	And Sandra Bullock was she was hot in that film.
	At least there's hardly any murder-death kills in their society.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, no one has died in like 20 years or something, and it's just like, oh god, someone's been murdered.
	Like, we don't have that.
	We got what have we got, Nick.
	This is the time for you to say anarchy, don't we?
	Anarchy, yeah.
	Sorry, anyone, I missed my cue.
	Damn it.
	We're gonna be able to do that.
	Because the people who don't have the IDs are running around stabbing people.
	Yeah, like god god man.
	Uh Daniel says, Thank Christ, someone's mentioned Burnham's eyeliner, I've been modering for years.
	It's not just me then.
	Thank God.
	Okay, I was thinking, am I the only one that's noticed that?
	Okay.
	Uh Paul says, Well, Kami was right about the Russians wanting chaos in our system.
	Also, the CCP, Iran, and lots of others.
	I mean, yeah, that's true, but again, I I just really feel that he's overstating the capacity of the Russians, frankly.
	Like, you know, well, it's a good point because it is absolutely true that Russia does want to sort of destabilize the West.
	Absolutely, we are strategic global strategic enemies.
	Yeah, and the Chinese.
	But were they doing the things that was alleged in the steel dossier?
	No.
	No.
	Was Trump literally a main Turing candidate, just a puppet of Putin?
	I mean, uh Maddow was literally saying he is a puppet of Putin.
	Just a statement.
	He is that.
	And it's like, well, he's not a good one.
	They were all saying it.
	He's in Clinton.
	Hillary Clinton said that.
	Yeah.
	They all said it.
	He's now turned on Putin.
	You see his tweet the other day.
	I did.
	Well enough.
	Yeah.
	Massive turnaround one of the biggest turn hours we've ever seen.
	You know, I really think that he thought that he could like brobe Putin into doing it.
	I thought I think he he thought, no, I got on really well with Putin.
	I'll just have a talk with him.
	I'll get him on side and he'll understand why he should do this.
	And obviously that happened.
	He's always coming from fundamentally from the same mindset, what's logical, what's pragmatic, but he wasn't like coming from a completely different mindset, which is what's best for my country, the survival of my ancient country, we will survive and endure.
	It's not just that.
	I think I think his issue is if if if Trump concedes on something and his political career ends, okay, he might he might get persecuted a little bit in the courts.
	Oh yeah.
	But he just goes about his life as normal.
	He can drink water without worrying what's in it.
	Right, yeah, exactly.
	If if i I mean, it's probably gonna be worse than that for Putin.
	If Putin falls, I mean he's he's made a lot of enemies over the years, he's probably gonna get dragged through the street like Mussolini or Chautesco or something, right?
	That's that's Putin doesn't have a retirement plan.
	Whereas Trump probably does.
	Uh and so, like, you know, Putin like, no, no, if if I lose this war, then I die.
	And there's a lot of truth in that for Zelensky as well, the pressure he's on the nationalist in the Ukraine is a different level.
	Yeah.
	So it's uh high stakes in Eastern Europe.
	Anyway, we're out of time there.
	So thank you for joining us, folks.
	Sorry I didn't get through all the super chats, but there were an awful lot of them.
	But we really appreciate your uh concern.
	I think we'll be okay.
	I think we will beat this digital idea ID thing.
	Um I'm actually uh weirdly I'm surprisingly optimistic about it.
	And it to me it looks like a a complete failure on their part freedom uh trying this.
	But anyway, um we will be back in half an hour for the gold tier zoom call on Lodseys.com.
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