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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1252
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Hello everyone, welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Cedars.
This is Monday the 15th of September, 2025.
And uh this is episode 1252.
I'm joined today by Bo and Firas.
And we're going to discuss the identity of Charlie Kirk's assassin, how the left radicalizers are a youth, and the elite's lies about the United Kingdom rally.
Right, so we have uh an announcement to make.
We have a live Realpolitik episode today at 3 p.m.
And Firas, what are you gonna be talking about?
Well, I'm going to be talking about the evils of civil war.
Um but that we are slowly sliding towards one, and unless there is some kind of truth and reconciliation, with the left beginning to admit some of its errors, um it it it becomes very difficult to avoid one, and we should see Kirk as as as the first martyr in that conflict.
Right.
So do tune in.
It's uh premium, consider signing up.
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Right, so Bo should we start with the first segment.
One thing I was gonna say was uh we'll do the rally in London tomorrow.
Yep.
We will cover that, but tomorrow because none of us were there.
Yeah.
So we thought we may as well wait until Carl's in because he was actually there at least.
Yes.
Uh we'll do it and Yeah, so we'll cover that tomorrow.
Alright, so last time we talked about Charlie Kirk was I think was it Thursday last week?
And at that point, the or Wednesday was it, the killer was still at large at that point.
Um and the news broke in Britain right at the end of the working day on Friday, I believe, that they'd they'd caught him.
And so over the weekend it's sort of been all in the news, hasn't it?
Sort of all weekend long and still in their news cycle today as well, of course.
Uh so we thought we'd cover it.
So um the guy is called Tyler Robinson.
No relation to Harry Robinson, he's at pains to point out.
Uh Tyler Robinson, and that there he is.
So let's just uh have a quick few seconds of this video.
We got him.
The words that everyone has been waiting to hear.
We are following Always a bit of a cliche, I think now after the Saddam thing.
Yep.
You've got him, Dave.
Uh dunno.
Following breaking news, this is the mugshot of the 22-year-old man who authorities say killed conservative influencer Charlie Kirk.
Tyler Robinson is his name, and he was arrested overnight, roughly three hours south of where he allegedly fired that shot that killed Kirk in front of thousands of people as he was speaking at Utah Valley University in Oram, Utah, as part of a college tour.
I'll tell you how Robinson's family knew that they were living with the person now accused of a horrifying assassination.
This is a break Okay.
So um yeah, one of the first things is he's very young, he's 22.
Um on that podcast on Wednesday with Dan and Carl, uh, I did say that my immediate reaction when there was that uh middle-aged or even older gentleman that they first got at the scene within moments.
Um I remember saying, it doesn't ring true, it's not impossible, it's not entirely unheard of for political assassins to be older, uh, but it's actually really quite rare.
And uh yeah, in this case is very, very young, 22.
I mean, uh you don't really know what you're doing, you don't really have a proper grasp on things when you're 22.
Or usually you don't.
You know, I didn't.
Sometimes you get people, I mean sometimes you get an extremely young physicist or a poet or something that's in their early twenties, but uh you most of the time you still don't really know what you think about things properly when you're 22.
You haven't really lived much for life yet, have you, when you're 22.
Um like I was saying in the office earlier that um Princip, the murder in Sarajevo in 1914, he was nineteen.
Right.
Right.
It's actually much much much much easier to radicalize someone who's very young.
Yes.
Um that's nearly always the way it goes.
Yeah.
Um they're very prone to emotional manipulation.
The younger one is, the more prone they are to and and to moral certainty in in uh in a particular way.
Yeah.
And more prone to violence.
A lot of violent crime will be younger people.
Yes.
It will be young men, young men.
Nearly always.
Yes.
Um that's true.
Yeah, I mean, even in the army the uh an infantrymen, you know.
They don't really want you when you're in your forties.
No to be a rifleman.
they prefer it if you're twenty.
Unless you're in Ukraine.
Uh well, right.
Yeah.
Um, so what's been in some of the news over the last few days, um, I I've seen uh a few different places say that he's not cooperating with the authorities.
I did see one article saying he is, but most of them seem to say he's not cooperating.
Uh but he did at least um it seems sort of allow himself to be turned in.
So some of the details of that.
It seems like his parents, his own father, uh saw the the the images that the FBI had released and realised, oh that's that's my son.
Um so now there's the dilemma, like you know, of turning in your own son, because there is the death penalty in Utah, and they have said already, the authorities have said they'll be pushing for a death penalty should he be convicted.
Um really the the the the the father's behaviour and honour and civic duty is the only reason for clemency here.
Is the only possible reason for clemency.
Um not the man himself, not the shooter himself.
Um it it's it's incredible that you see this willingness on the part of a parent.
And you can imagine how difficult it must be for his father.
Uh we we should genuinely pray for his father, we should genuinely w wish his father well because he did something extremely brave, which wouldn't happen in a lot of societies, and most societies I would argue.
Um it shows what a thoroughly decent human being he is and it makes it more heartbreaking for him that his son would do something like that, that his son would be brainwashed to this extent.
Um you do everything that you can as a father to make sure that your children turn out okay.
And um the thought that it wouldn't happen is something that that really worries you and keeps you up at night.
It's it's a scary thought.
Uh and that he would go so wrong.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Um so there's a little bit of a debate in the office on Friday afternoon about about that.
Would you turn your own child in, knowing that they'll probably get the death penalty.
Um I think it's it's easy for me to sit here and say this, uh, but you know, I think it is the morally right thing to do.
I mean, when we look at say um the families of uh the grooming gangs that don't turn their pen.
We can uh we condemn them, saying that's wrong and that's disgusting.
It's it's obviously morally right thing to do.
The question th the only comment is about the the difficulty of it.
Yeah, it must have been very, very difficult.
So um the details are a little bit sketchy still, and one or two different places seem to have a slightly different spin on exactly how that went down, but from what I can gather from what I've read, it seems like it went something like his father confronted him, saying, Look, it's it's you, right?
I can see it's you it's obviously you.
And something along the lines of he either explicitly or or implicitly s confirmed that it was him.
Then he went to a family friend or some accounts are saying it was like the local uh uh priest or pastor or or or or holy man of some type in their community.
I think they were um Mormons.
I think they're Mormons, yeah.
We'll get on to sort of the conservative nature of the household in a moment.
Um he went to some sort of other third party and they informed the police or the FBI and uh they went round and they got him and there was no sort of struggle.
There was no struggle.
Yes.
Uh he didn't commit suicide or anything like that.
So that seems like that's how it went down.
Um so okay, so the next thing, one of the next things to say is about sort of the household.
Um yeah, apparently he was joking on Discord Um making various jokes about it.
Um I got an article here if you're only listening to this that he'd said it it was his doppelganger did it.
Um yeah.
Um so yeah, uh people are saying that he was raised, or it seems that he was it is the case, it was raised in a conservative household, conservative with a small seat, uh Mormon, so Christian, you know, uh Church of the Latter day Saints, isn't it?
They form formal name.
Uh in not unsurprising in Utah.
Um so the first thing that the the the mainstream media or the left seem to be sort of um deliberately it seems to me deliberately confusing the issue is that uh that that's it.
That's all there is to the story that he was a conservative who did this, and uh and and there you go.
So it's not one of ours, the left, it's not one of ours, it's one of yours.
It's your thoughts of right wing killer, it's a right wing murderer.
Um I found that disgusting entirely because it it is the character of the far left to never take the responsibility about everything.
And they mentioned all sorts of influences on him, but never mentioned the radicalization he has received by most probably universities and definitely online spaces.
Yeah, absolutely.
So here's uh a tweet from um uh uh Billy Baldwin, incredibly incredibly insightful political analyst Billy Baldwin, yeah.
The razor sharp insight of Billy Baldwin.
He's saying he's not black, he's not trans, he's not Muslim, not a migrant, not a democrat.
Uh oh oh brilliant, Billy.
Thanks for that.
We appreciate that.
Yeah, brilliant, well done.
Um The Telegraph.
Saying the Charlie Kirk suspect spoke the language of the far right.
Oh, did he?
Did he, though?
Um so what it seems to be, uh, if you just scratch the surface of this thing, is that yeah, he was raised in a conservative Mormon household, but then he went to university, he got a full scholarship, it seems.
It seems like he was actually uh very bright academically.
Yes.
Which just goes to show you can be very bright academically and still um a psychopath and completely wrong headed.
I mean, look at somebody like Lenin, there's lots of very quote unquote bright, entirely wrong-headed people.
He wasn't stupid.
Right, yeah.
He wasn't stupid.
It wasn't stupid.
Uh but there you go.
So um uh yeah, it seems like he went well, he went to university and uh got radicalized.
Um and then that now sometimes when people are raised in a certain way, whether it's conservative or or or not conservative, sometimes you sort of carry that on through your whole life, and it's so deeply ingrained in your character and personality that you just go with that throughout your whole life to to the to the to the grave and you pass that on to your children.
Often though, especially when you're in your teens or your early twenties, it can be the case very very often, isn't it?
That you rebel against that, you do a 180.
How what a cliche is to go to university and suddenly you're the opposite of what you're what mummy and daddy always wanted for you.
Um so it seems like something like that went on.
He went to university, I think for only one semester, or certainly less than one year, and um the reports are coming out that he was in a relationship with a man, yep, so he was gay, um, would have thought that mummy and daddy back home wouldn't uh uh wouldn't have approved of that.
Not in the least, um, and if they were conservative, he's gone sort of full lefty, full anti-far.
Yep.
Uh my my understanding is that he was also living in the university, not just at home.
And so he was basically um immersed in this atmosphere that you often find, unfortunately, in the academy, which has been largely captured by the left.
Um and then he ended up, you know, rebelling, becoming gay, and and uh dating a guy who says that he's trans, and that mental ill illness is contagious.
I mean I mean the whole trans thing we have to confront the extent to which it's a full denial of reality, and as we start to push back against the trans agenda finally, these guys have two choices either radicalize further and become more extreme, or admit that they've been living a lie for X many years and have mutilated their bodies, and very often violence is the easier option than acknowledging reality and and repenting.
So that there is going to be more of this from the trans side as reality punches them in the face and says, No, you can't change sex, you can't change gender, you can't do any of this stuff, it isn't real.
It's all in your head, get over yourself.
It was also the case that he had um anti fascist slogans on his uh bullets and the bullet cases.
And now just let me very quickly say is that in the minds of the left and especially the non-particularly articulate left.
I'm thinking of uh Joe Biden.
He was saying it's all the same thing.
Islamophobia, transphobia, homophobia, it's all the same thing.
Yes.
Climate justice, climate injury, it's all the same thing.
So it's really academia to a very large extent, it's completely brainwashing people, young people, and it's trying to make them like trying to create narcissists.
That's a very important point because the ideology of intersectionality tying together all of these supposedly oppressed groups along with the eschatology of of the climate crisis, alleged climate crisis.
Um it means that if you compromise on one, you can't comp you have to compromise on the others.
And we saw that in the exchange between Jonathan Willoughby, who goes by the name of of India now, and one of the Muslim MPs, where the Muslim MP said, Well, you know, I don't really think you're a woman, and so Jonathan Willoughby says, Well, if you say that about me, then I'm going to say that you're not really British.
Well, he's Pakistani, obviously, he's not British.
Um, so there is this um weird omereta between them, between these different groups, that if you admit to one truth and therefore break up the alliance, we are going to start shaming you as well.
Yeah.
And so they must stick together, and the result of them being so relentlessly married to lies is that they must be violent, because at some point it's the only way to defend lies.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh just on the point of the finding uh writings or engravings on the uh the casings in the bullets, yeah, apparently they said things like, hey fascist catch.
Yeah.
Also the Bella Ciao song.
Bella Chow, yeah, they're the Italian anti-fascist, sorry.
Um if you read this, you are gay, Lamel.
Basically very twenty-two-year-old, isn't it?
Yeah, he was one guy explained it as this being some kind of shit post, but in the form of a murder.
Um whereby you end up with these people that can't take anything seriously but are married to insane lies, and like this is f for them this is funny.
For for them killing us is funny.
That that that's an important point here.
And there is also the other bit that there are some people who are psychopaths, yes, and uh they can hide their psychopathy under a guise of legitimacy with the victimhood narratives that are communicated in academia, and Obama and Hillary turned mainstream for the last ten years.
Yes.
So there's this thing, some are still saying that it might all be sort of uh 4D chest red herring, and in fact it was still something else going on.
I think it's pretty clear at this point, relatively clear at this point, um, that it is just straight up this guy with anti fascist and like trans ideology going on through his head.
Now, uh the thing of going to university I mean I had it myself, but in my form it was being like really high brow about ancient history.
But you go to university, you don't really have much of a personality yet when you're nineteen or twenty.
You've only ever lived at home.
You go there, you're away from home, you live at university in halls or whatever, you're completely allowed to do whatever you want, express yourself in whatever way you want, and you fall into you make the university and your course and your friends at university your whole life.
You haven't really got actually much other choice.
And so as I say, in my case, it was like falling in with public school kids that did classics.
In his case, it seems like he fell in with anti-fascist trans types.
We should call them.
Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.
Absolutely, absolutely.
Um yeah, hardline communists, yeah, it's exactly what it is.
And so it seems that over a matter of weeks or a few short months, um went from being just like a conservative Mormon kid, to uh uh a highly radicalized communist.
This is a problem with some very intelligent people that they think themselves so much smarter than everybody else around them.
You'd have to be convinced before you pull the trigger.
You're absolutely convinced.
You're describing academia, especially, you know, to a T. Yes, but then the like they discover one particular truth or whatever, and it just they can't um pause and stop because their mind races ahead of them and leads them to extremism.
It it is a problem with some very high verbal IQ people.
I noticed the case with me when I was very young, when I was 17 or 18 or 19.
I thought I knew everything.
I thought I'd done enough reading, I knew enough about the world, I've got all the answers, sort of thing.
I remember thinking that.
And I remember not that many years later, in my mid-20s or late twenties, looking back at myself, uh just a few years earlier, but wow.
Wow, I was in oh I was so wrong.
I was so wrong about that.
Oh my god, I'm glad I didn't that none of that led me to do anything crazy.
Yes.
Well, it didn't, right?
It led me to just like read tacitus.
Yeah, I was gonna say tacit was radical radicalized me, tacitus.
Right, yeah, yeah.
Uh, but if it leads you to get a rifle and shoot someone like Charlie Kirk, because he's an evil demon Nazi that needs to be dead now.
Uh terrible, terrible, terrible thing.
But it looks like that's what happened.
I mean, I did watch one very interesting video, um, a little bit of armchair psychology, but the the video I watched was um of uh a professional retired FBI sort of psychological profiler type.
Right.
Um and he was saying that what this sort of thing often is probably will turn out to be the case with uh Tyler Robinson, is just sort of a massive sense of insecurity and inadequacy.
That Charlie Kirk is everything he isn't.
Charlie Kirk's like got all his ducks in a row, got everything squared away, knows who he is, knows who he is absolutely to the point where he can debate the whole world.
Yep.
And this guy is just uh a mess of nothing.
He's just uh he just is all over the place.
It's absolutely all over the place.
One minute I'm a conservative Mormon, the next minute I'm a massively pro-trans communist, like he's all over the place.
Right.
So I think what confirms that to some extent is the fact that his immediate reaction after murdering Kirk was to run to Daddy.
He didn't run.
Also bloat on social media.
So seek affirmation from social media, but also run to daddy.
So you could see that this is obviously they they took him into the universities and it made him insane.
And I'm sure there are some personality traits within him that that that helped.
Uh probably very high verbal capacity.
Uh obviously he had a 4.0 GPA, which is like a 100%.
Um obviously very brilliant.
And um they they destroyed his life with their ideology.
Yeah.
Uh I'm sure he was prone to it.
I'm not taking away responsibility from him, but I am saying that the fact that the academy is captured by these insane extremists is a real problem, and this is an opportunity for Donald Trump to purge the universities to properly purge them.
No, I agree with both your points.
Um that it it melted his mind.
It seems like he went to university and it whooped him real quick.
Yeah.
To maxed out to eleven.
Yeah.
Uh, but yeah, also at the same point, not taking responsibility for it.
That's another thing that the the very interesting FBI profiler said is that probably it was a slippery slope.
He didn't go from absolutely peaceful to prepare to shoot someone.
There would have been an escalation almost certainly.
It's the way it nearly always goes.
Yes.
Um, until you do something as drastic as that.
Um, so one of the last things to just mention for this segment is um some of the some of the gaslighting and the uh the sort of fairly disgusting um celebrations and things that have gone on over the weekend or or since the event.
Um not just people celebrating it, but uh people just also playing interference on behalf of uh the left and the show.
I mean, here's uh an article from John Sopol, one of the most disgusting fifth colonists you ever come across.
Uh he's he's writing here uh Trump's reaction to Charlie Kirk's assassination shows all his worst traits.
No, it doesn't.
Shut up, John.
Um disgusting.
Uh but there's loads, not just the TikTokers sort of uh literally dancing around and uh gloating, smugly gloating, but people like I mean Ilhan Omar one went on Medich Hassan, and they're both sort of uh just short of whoeping it up.
Uh classic Hassan Pika, Hassan Piker's been in uh in the news, all that sort of thing.
Um that hijabi woman off of Bakhoff.
Yes, um playing playing defence, playing interference.
Alistair Campbell got in a bit of trouble just saying things that weren't true about Charlie Kirk that he'd advocated for the stoning of gay people, just roll.
Uh uh all the usual suspects.
The list is actually extremely long of those that are not only gloating but sort of trying to play some sort of intellectual interference on behalf of the killer.
Yes.
Um it's just very revealing, isn't it?
It's another another one of those things, uh like the flag thing, or like the killing of that poor Ukrainian girl, those that uh just have a normal human response, and those that have like uh uh uh sort of a murderous, devious response.
It's just very revealing.
I mean th this is something I I'm I'm going to talk about on uh in uh in an hour on a couple of hours on real politics the dissociation from reality and the hatred of the normal.
The extent to which they hate normal human impulses, like preferring your family over strangers, like preferring your country over foreign countries, uh like preferring your religion over alien faiths, the the the most basic elements of humanity are all treated with insane hostility by the left.
No wonder they turn crazy.
It requires you to be a bit crazy to go along with it and buy it.
It makes you crazier the more you go along with it.
Right.
We all have a bit of crazy in us, we all have bad things in us, we're all afflicted somehow, but it makes you much worse to believe these people.
Makes you a much worse human being, and you see this kind of interference.
No, nothing should be done about the radicalization of the universities.
The fact that 98% or 99% of all professors are are far left, that shouldn't be addressed.
Why?
Like why should it why isn't this a problem?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, so that's my time up, but um just to finish it off saying um, you know, uh at least they got him.
It's not really much of a mercy, is it?
But there you go, it's sort of better than it being a mystery forever, who did it.
Um so there you go, Tyler Robinson.
Right.
Uh Dreadnought Logan.
Uh says, might I suggest a medieval punishment for him?
Paul Anderson says it's a bit Mediterranean heavy today, and in Greek, the wonderful replacer.
Well, no, Dwight Power says, after we've watched the authorities openly cover up the Epstein files and taking anything they tell us about this shooting with a pinch of salt.
I'm not convinced a college kid has done this alone.
A drunk changing there was a network of trans individuals who were aware of this happening before the fact.
And this is being investigated, and Trump is using this in the right way to go after some of these organizations.
So yes, there might be more than one person who knew about this in advance.
Right.
A drunk changeling, they hated Charlie because he ambushed them on their long march through the institutions.
Losing to Trump sets them back four years, but losing to Charlie sets them back a generation.
Good point.
Yeah.
Well put.
He was incredibly influential with uh young generation.
He was going behind enemy lines, wasn't he?
Really?
Neon Realists says New York Post report FBI investigation expanded to if wider network of trans militias had knowledge or a role in plot.
Utah based trans militia group armed queers Sol Lake City deleted their accounts.
Interesting.
OPAG UK says if you accidentally hit a trans person with your car, is it considered ma'am slaughter?
Mam slaughter.
Bastard Bryan, as someone raised latter-day Saints who left the faith, and know many others who have former LDS, particularly university goers, have a bad tendency to become some of the most extreme degenerates.
That's often the case, isn't it?
Um there's an old cliche in Britain that uh Catholic school girls after they leave school become uh perhaps slightly more promiscuous than they might otherwise have been.
It's a classic thing, is it not just religion in all sorts of things?
You're very, very conservative, race, very, very conservative, so you become an arch lefty or vice versa.
Yeah, it's true.
Right.
So Boba Bad says that to be fair, he could see how they uh they think he was a groiper since he had a fanboy lover.
Uh I I'm really I don't know a lot about these groups.
Okay.
Flavius Magnus, the father is an honorable and just man with a moral strength few could ever hold.
Yep.
And Adam James says those who dance on Charlie's graves are lost, those who equivocate or go with, yeah, it's bad, he died, but are a half step from being lost.
Question is if they will take that step.
And um Potato Radio says University of Utah was where Steven Crowder's show stopped an attempt on Ben Shapiro five or six years ago.
I didn't know that one.
It's interesting.
Right.
So I think it's about time we have a I think it's about time we have an an uncomfortable conversation, and uh talk about the extremist tendencies within within quotation marks progressivism.
If we really look into it, it's not progress, it's it's barbarity.
That's anti-civilization stuff, they're not progress at all.
But within this ideology, there are extremist tendencies.
They're very highly correlated with the victimhood narratives that academia has created for the last six, seven decades in the Western world.
Lots of these people who created these narratives came from Europe.
Critical race theory, critical theory before that, postmodernist theories, all of these came from Europe.
And they were a particularly bad export from uh Europe into the States, and uh they have created several victimhood narratives which function in a way right now that leads to stochastic terrorism.
Most people think that violence is justified when someone is in self-defense.
So, what these narratives are doing, they're radicalizing our youth, they're radicalizing Zoomers, but also everyone else, but mostly Zoomers within academia and on line, by constantly creating a perception of reality that is entirely skewed and leads them to think that they are in conditions where they have to defend themselves.
They believe that because these narratives are true, they are in conditions where they have to defend themselves, and therefore they think that they are justified in using violence.
And I won't say that this is something unbelievably pernicious.
People who were in academia could see it.
I was in academia for more than a decade.
I could see it.
The level of the level of evil you hear in academia is unprecedented.
And uh I was very much into studying authoritarianism and totalitarianism, and I've been blocked by an applebaum for telling her that you need to, yes, you need to you need to you can't say you care about totalitarianism and authoritarianism and not focus on wokeness.
Because she was playing a lot the Trump is fascist card.
Yes, right?
It's absolutely vile rhetoric.
An apple bomb.
Apple bomb is evil.
That's uh that's actually a quite a good uh badge Of honor to be blocked by that.
Yeah.
So I mean I think we need to have a conversation about this.
And uh people within academia who are sensible need to start speaking up because unless they speak up, they will find themselves pandering to narcissists.
They already find themselves doing that very thing, but they need to be all of them need to become brave and start looking at what it is that they are pandering to.
And why are they doing this?
Not necessarily because they're bad people.
Far be it from me to suggest that all of them are bad people.
There are all sorts of reasons doing this.
But these narratives were popularized and turned mainstream by Obama and Hillary Clinton in the last decade.
It's one thing to say that there is a extremist narratives or or narrative or a series of narratives within academia, and at some point it has created the parake that will blow up.
When you say this, most people don't listen to you.
But now that this has real life consequences that more and more people wake up to, it's time to have that conversation again.
Because we have said before that progressivism has extremist tendencies.
I want to show you several really um several ways in which this happens, in ways in which the democrats, the main some of the mainstream democrats, but not just them, are using that narrative in order to create a false perception of reality to millions of people, according to which violence is justified.
And when you do that to millions of people, when you're spreading narrative after narrative of victimhood, some of these people will actually do something.
That's why it's stochastic terrorism.
And that's why it's something that is deliberate and it must be resisted by people across the political spectrum, because there have to be some decent democrats or some decent supporters of the Democrat Party, presumably, who will not want to live in a society or be members of a party that is pandering to extremist narcissist psychopaths.
So just one one thing to say really quickly.
This narrative, according to which words of violence, but also silences violence, is essentially a narrative where you can't win.
Unless you agree with the party, your existence is a threat.
It's a threat.
It's conducive to all sorts of imagined genocides that they are talking about.
Therefore, they think they are justified in using in using violence against them.
And also they they completely deflect because they use narrative controls within propaganda to use this and project it on the other side.
That's why they constantly have people, for instance, in fashion show in fashion billboards where they say my existence is an act of defiance.
Right.
Meanwhile, when they're actually declaring the existence of the centers as an MME they want to see eliminated.
Because they call them Nazis, because they call them fascists, because they call them far right.
Nancy Pelosi here says democrats can't take responsibility for their rhetoric against conservatives.
Because their intention for violence to ins is not for violence to ensue.
It's the casting thing.
I thought it was very good to be at the very top of this segment where you said progressivism isn't progress.
It's is more or less barbarity.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's the classic thing.
There's a reason why George Orwell's 1984 is is so sort of famous and prophetic.
The idea in it of double think, double speak.
Yes.
Uh the the um that war is love and all that sort of thing.
The ministry of truth, where it's all about propaganda and life.
Wor is the ministry of love, which is about slavery and death.
All those things.
Absolutely, yeah.
The progress is actually the pretty much the opposite.
The idea that diversity is a strength.
No, of course it's not.
It's a it's a weakness, of course.
Of course.
Um, and just the the examples of that just go on and on and on.
Uh, yeah, that they would co-op the word progress.
Exactly.
Sorry, go.
No, no, no, please.
Um, yeah, no, I just had another few examples, but um I think most people get the idea.
Um this is precisely why I'm very much against from from day one.
I'm very much against using the language of the establishment.
Because first of all, I don't want to be carried into the whole uh pronoun thing, but also progress is diff is the exact opposite of what the far left wants it to be.
This is barbarity.
That's not progress.
One of the things in the Cold War, uh, very often sort of pro-communist Soviet, actually full Soviet uh organizations in the West would quite often use the word peace, some sort of uh peace movement.
Join the peace movement.
Yes.
Uh again, the classic sort of double speak, double think.
Mao was saying a thing on the red book that uh our violence is anti-violence.
Just like against imperialists.
Yeah.
Right.
So I think that the events of uh these last days, the assassination of Charlie Kirk has created a situation where more and more people wake up from this alarmist and uh extremist narrative,
and more and more people wake up from this, and uh they can't do narrative control the way they used to, because their side started cheering and they can't hide they can't take this back.
They can't they try to take this back when they started gaslighting everyone by focusing on the quantity of of different messages when they said no, it's a right wing killer.
One parallel, I've just thought of uh maybe someone else has said it, I'm sure someone else has said it, but it just popped into my mind.
After 9-11, on the day of 9-11, there were people chanting and whooping it up in the streets in certain Middle Eastern countries.
Yes.
Um, and that is very a lot of people, I know a lot of people saw that and was like, wait, what really?
Wait, they they're cheering for this.
I couldn't believe I didn't know that.
I didn't know people felt like that.
In Egypt or Saudi Arabia or wherever, I didn't realize or Iran, I didn't realize they hated us that much.
Uh, I think this Charlie Kirk thing where various people were uh literally whooping and cheering and and and having a good time with it.
I think a lot of people, normies, I suppose, have woken up to be like, oh, oh no, they really do uh hate us with sort of murderous intent.
Yes.
Oh wow, okay.
I didn't know that before.
Here we have uh someone reading and practicing probably the Maoist uh playbook that we just mentioned, says Trump threw gasoline on the fire, made growing political violence, experts says.
Right, so yeah, it's it's Trump's fault, according to him.
David Pacman says MAGA is already declaring open season on the left after Charlie Kirk's disgusting assassination, is the opposite of what we need.
Are you gonna take responsibility for creating and sustaining an alarmist culture?
Not holding my breath.
Right, so let's focus a bit on the philosophy behind it, and then focus also on some other aspects of it.
So Carl and Thomas Dowlin did a premium piece here on Marcusa, the repressive tolerance.
This was in 2021.
Because Marcuse is uh uh behind a a lot of these uh movements.
He also had this piece on repressive tolerance.
Let me please can I have control of the mouse, please?
Right.
James Lindsay, who has worked also a lot on this, he said he says essentially that in repressive tolerance, Marcusa insists violence from the left and violence from the right are not the same.
Violence from the left is a moral necessity and must be tolerated.
Nothing from the right should be tolerated.
That's essentially the message.
If you want to read also if you want to re to check also the video that Carl and Thomas did, subscribe on loads of Cedars and watch it.
I think that's also that that may be, yeah, check it out.
Right.
And I want to say that this is a part of the philosophical aspect of this, but there's also another part that came from attacking traditional Western civilization, especially from the 50s and the 60s.
There were lots of people who literally blamed reason for World War II, and reason for oppression and all sorts of oppression and discrimination and everything.
And they popularized the Narrative according to which the logos, which is the central pillar of Western civilization, in almost every strong pillar of it, the logos is the pillar of Western civilization.
They attacked it as a form of oppression itself.
When you do this, no wonder you're gonna get out with screeching people who are glorifying their whims and have zero emotional regulation, and they think that just because they feel oppressed, they are oppressed and they are justified in killing everyone.
The pillar of Western civilization is the idea that emotions should be held in check by reason and by the higher aspect of our nature.
Because unless we do so, we are gonna be completely governed by the lesser aspects of our nature.
That's in a nutshell, Plato's Republic.
The tyrant is governed by their lower self.
Right.
And we have here Obama who basically says, I want you to stay angry, I want you to stay frustrated.
He wants this narrative to continue.
We have Hillary Clinton who said the half the US, half the supporters of Trump are a basket of deplorables.
And she compared them with Nazis and fascists.
This ridiculous alarmist narrative, according to which, unless you support open borders, you're a supporter of Hitler, as if the people who fought and won Hitler were in favor of open borders.
They weren't.
Right.
We have here all these things from Joe Biden, who was again fanning the flames of this ridiculously alarming narratives, saying Donald Trump is the greatest threat to a democracy.
He's a genuine threat to this nation.
He's a threat to a freedom, a threat to democracy, a threat to everything America stands for.
Threat that democracy poses many threats to a country, but the greatest threats to democracy.
If we lose that, we lose everything.
Just here we have threads of democrats essentially calling for violence and normalizing violence against Trump.
I'm not gonna show all of it because I'm mindful of time.
Just Minn Crockett.
The violence is all from MAGA, not the left.
It's just, you can't get more disgustingly mistaken.
in.
Thank you.
And deliberately.
Not interested in truth or reality, not remotely.
It's all narrative control.
It's not interesting.
All narrative control.
Here we have also uh media.
We have influencers flop from the left essentially calling for violence.
If that's not an incitement to violence, I don't know what is.
But they're they're keeping that alive.
What did Piker actually say and do?
Well, he he said that you need to they need to be gutting them.
Right, yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
Now let's go to the UK just for uh for a moment to show how this alarmist narrative plays into UK politics.
Owen Jones, the far right wants to shut down democracy, crush the left, who say they see us traitors and drive out minorities who they see as an existential threat to the notion of Western civilization.
Everything they do is a means to those ends.
The idea that replacing people with a people of different culture is not a threat to the existing civilization is stupid.
It's a destruction of the demos.
And you can't have a dis a de democracy without a demos.
Exactly.
And by constantly offending your demos and calling them extremist lunatics.
Exactly, but but the the idea that if this country becomes fifty percent Muslim, it'll still have the same governing system is so laughable, is so dishonest, is so pathetic.
Even the Palestinians, when you talk to the honest ones, they'll tell you we don't want a Palestinian state.
We want a fundamental change in the whole regime that stops us from becoming another Jordan or Egypt, because they know that this group produces this polity.
So the idea that um oh, they're just vulnerable minorities and they're a threat.
Guys, let's let's just be honest about this.
There are genuine threats, and we need to focus on empirical data.
I think one of the best things about AOC has been said by Thomas Sowell.
He said her speech is incredibly manipulative.
She mentions no facts, it's all all emotion.
It's all emotion.
Here we have sorry.
Well, first says, you know, let's just be honest.
Let's have an honest conversation.
Well, that's the exact thing that someone like Owen Jones isn't prepared to do.
Not at all.
He talks about other people lying all the time, that XYZ concept or narrative was always a lie.
Says that a lot.
He's the one peddling in misinformation.
Completely.
He was the one who's saying, right up to the last minute that there's no such thing as grooming gangs.
You think he's going to forget favorite homosexual in the caliphate.
Um that that's what he thinks it might be in a best case scenario.
I don't know if he even understands the implications of the things that he's advocating.
Well, he can only peddle lies, and if someone like when there was that back to clan thing, oh no, sorry, not back to clan, I think there was uh some sort of gay nightclub shooting, maybe it was it, Orlando.
Uh yeah, just he'll just get up and leave an interview because you've got nothing.
She's got nothing.
Yes.
He's the type of person who can't have a genuine debate.
Oh, yeah, oh, bad faith every time without fail, as as hard and as deep as possible.
Zoe Garner here.
She is just only aware of the thing.
Look at this, look at the narrative.
There's a darkness coming.
It's already swallowed America.
And now it's coming for us too.
In 2019, we protested against Donald Trump, and we thought if we shout loud enough, maybe he'll go away.
Now he's back.
On September 17th, Donald Trump So she's essentially saying we thought that if we tur we played the democratic card, we would win, but we lost.
What what else do you want?
Well, if if we don't win, it's fascism.
Here, let's remember this man who is essentially playing into this alarmist narrative according to which everyone who disagrees with the left is a fascist.
And let us see his true colours and how they were revealed.
Let us remember this.
Children and women using their strengths to the thumb relative.
They are disgusting nothing truth.
Are we need to call their vote and get rid of the road?
And then they had the free Palestine chant.
So he's essentially playing into this narrative, according to which everyone who disagrees with the left is Mussolini at best, and they deserve the treatment according to throat slashing according to this uh reprehensible rhetoric and man.
Who was released?
He didn't face any anything, any consequences for him.
Yes, he didn't remain the labor counsellor, but I don't think that that's I don't know.
Just this is precisely this the far radical left rhetoric that is creating the polarization.
It's inventing enemies.
And politicians, and you could say that he is a minor figure, but politicians like Obama and Hillary Clinton and politicians who had the top who occupy the top echelons of power are normalizing this rhetoric.
They are pandering to people with this rhetoric, and if the unless they change course, they will find themselves completely pandering to narcissistic psychopaths.
And I think it's worth pointing out just real quick that it is the left doing it first and the right only reacting to it.
I think I said it on the other day, is a reason why all throughout history the the right has been known as reactionary, the forces of reaction.
Yeah, we're reacting to your insanity.
Yeah.
Yeah, you you did it first, you forced our hand, you painted us into a corner here.
Um it's not like people like Roger Scruton or Jake Jacob Reese Mogg were the first to call for throats being cut, right?
It's not that.
That's not how it went.
Exactly.
Exactly, exactly.
Uh they're continuously dishonest about it.
They will murder you and say that it's your fault for getting murdered.
Yeah.
If you hadn't been controversial, you wouldn't have deserved to be murdered.
This is the narcissist who says, Look what you made me do.
And what we said before about the logos is incredibly important.
It's not just a theoretical um, you know, thing to say to sound smart.
It's very, very, very specific.
The Democrats have pandered to the very emotional side of politics.
And they have found themselves in a situation where you could arguably say that the best of humanity, compassion, is being twisted against humanity.
Yes.
Because it's normal to try to understand people, it's normal to try to show respect to people.
It's I'd say a good thing to show goodwill to people in society who claim to be oppressed, and let just listen to them.
Listen to them.
But what they have done is that because they have jettisoned the idea of reason as that which regulates emotions, they have locked themselves into a situation where they cannot impose limits on the narcissists who are going to essentially push for claiming that you can't really respect me unless you agree with me and do as I say.
You can't really give voice to the unheard unless you do exactly as they say.
You can really show compassion to me unless you agree with my self-conception and do as I say.
That's the kind of part Democrat Party that is the legacy of Obama.
And the good thing I want to end up on a good note, because we should focus on the good note as well.
There were people who instantly from the Democrat Party instantly went out and said that that's not in my name.
And they didn't do it afterwards when there was backlash.
So we have here she's saying that basically that she she's had enough.
We have also other people check out our links.
They're speaking against this.
Dean Withers say this.
He he was sensible, he what he was actually compassionate, which suggests to me that you know he's very young.
He's one of the white dudes for Harris.
He's very young.
He was in he was brought into this because he wants to be compassionate and he wants to give show goodwill to people.
and I want my message to Dean Withers is just well done for this and also you need to start thinking of the distinction between no imposing limits on narcissists and letting them have their way with you people all decent people should learn to do this Uh here, Don uh Joseph also had uh 10 minute video and says, I'm a lifelong democrat, I'm done.
That's not in my name.
Definitely check this video out because there are also good people on the other side because and these are times where people may be prone to demonize everyone on the on the other side.
It's important as Firas said before to think of reconciliation and the Democrats need to hold their party in track.
Yes, they need to do this.
Bernie's spoke spoke also.
I want to say that Bernie is very much respected in the Democrat Party, and in many ways, AOC is seen as his successor.
But I I do think AOC is precisely this hyper emotional is using this hyper-emotional rhetoric.
I know how somehow they have to check their party.
Oh yeah, I wrote an article.
Likening AOC to a very inarticulate version of Marak in the French in the French revolution.
Yeah.
Umurker.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
A rabble rouser.
Uh somebody playing with matches.
Um, but uh at least the real Marach was uh extremely eloquent, yeah and well read.
She's not she's not even that.
Someone that's here to burn it all down.
Yes, someone that's here to uh if you're not completely in line with them to uh get you killed.
Yeah, a month a monstrous figure, really.
Uh Jesus is king uh makes a donation of ten pounds.
Thank you very much.
Helen Hans foreheads for five pounds, seen several people attribute Nick Fantas quotes to Charlie Kirk.
I'm starting to think the lefthoods celebrating have genuinely confused him for Nick.
Uh Danesca for five pounds, also no five euros.
Yeah.
Uh hello from a French oversea department called Guadeloupe in the Caribbean.
Get your country back, gentlemen.
Uh crack dog for uh three dollars says the Groper narrative is painfully stupid.
True.
Right, and here we have Tom Rat 247 uh for a dollar.
Thank you.
The Kirkening has revealed that the modern US left most resemble the Bader Meinhof group sympathizers in West Germany, troubling.
Steel Fang says Bader Meinhof was a far left uh German terrorist group that assassinated a bunch of corporate types and was closely aligned with the Palestinians.
Yeah, right.
The weather underground.
The German version of that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's lots of over the years, there's been lots of them.
Leftist violence in the 60s is one of the areas of history that is very poorly covered.
Steel Fang says Excuse me.
Okay.
Uh Steel Fang says uh for $10 says there's a dark darkness coming.
It's called Islam.
O P A G E K for two dollars says in AOC's defense, she's got a great rack.
Right.
Okay.
Let's go to the third section.
Um so let's talk about the uh some of the sort of disinformation from the media on the uh protest that we saw in London on Saturday.
This isn't a full coverage of the event.
There's going to be more coming in tomorrow, but I just want to talk a little bit about the dishonesty.
On the BBC, um I had to look through their pages because none of their main pages had anything about it.
They had zero analysis of it, and they only had one story about fighting with the police, in which any kind of mention of what were the drivers of the protest were left to the very far bottom of the piece.
Uh completely buried the lead, tried to cover it in the worst way possible, and the focus was on oh, there was a bit of violence, and really that's just Tommy Robbins' fault, and it's it's the protesters' fault.
Um respect as to what these people wanted, no respect as to why there was a protest, no self-reflection whatsoever on why one of the biggest demonstrations in London's history happened and why so many people from mostly a working class background were joined by people from across the world to speak about the problems of Britain.
Zero self-reflection.
And the whole point of it is that we we don't want to think about it, we just want to call them far right.
And auntie is a spiteful mutilator.
I don't know if either of you know this.
Right.
Not growing up in Britain, but um the BBC used to be called often called itself auntie.
Yes.
No.
That they do a show that showed loads of sports bloopers, right?
And it'll be auntie sporting bloomers and stuff like that.
Right.
Um, as though it's a member of your family, a loving member of your family.
Yes, yes, um but no, again, classic leftist stuff.
It's the absolute opposite that's going on.
It's now a tool, uh nakedly a tool for subversion.
Well, if you want to do something extremely positively subversive, watch old BBC footage from the 60s and 70s, where they present a pristine, ordered, thoughtful society that actually works and contrast it with the mess that you have today.
Some of their older documentaries were are absolutely stunning.
Sure.
But today it's just it's just hostility.
Um and we got the expected reactions from the use usual suspects.
Uh Zara Sultana, obviously, she's using the language of the far left, so she's describing everybody she doesn't like as as fascist and far right.
Sure.
Um I don't blame her for that.
She is using the subversive language of the communists in order to push her own community's interests.
This is precisely what's happening.
And if you think there's an ounce of principle there, please come on.
Uh first understand that Marxism is a Christian heresy, then you understand why the Muslims use it in this way.
Um they use it to undermine Christendom.
That's the whole purpose behind it.
Um you see the BBC using a black presenter, of course, to call uh the Protest far right and to call Tommy Robinson far right.
Um that's sort of something that they keep on repeating, and the pairing of the presenter with a message is not accidental.
This is deliberate.
They're trying to show that the poor minorities are victims, as they we, the minorities, work our way to becoming a majority.
This is not something that you should wish for.
Speaking of this, I have a question for you for us, which is entirely rhetorical.
There were around 25 arrests from a political demonstration of people who went to the United Kingdom rally.
There were around 500 arrests, not on a political demonstration, but on a celebration.
The Notting Hill Carnival.
Yep.
What does that mean?
Does that mean that the celebration of some people brings us is sometimes more dangerous than the peaceful protest of some other people.
I I I will answer you honestly.
It brings us to a lot of Charlie Kirk's points about the problem of black crime, and this is a problem that should be spoken about using data and compassion, uh not be shied away from and be presented as um the black community being victims.
Uh you you mentioned earlier this last week.
You you mentioned earlier the way that they have these imagined genocides.
If you ask the average democrat how many uh uh unarmed black men get shot by the police every year, uh they will say something in the thousands when the actual number is something between ten and twenty.
Um and a lot of them being actually you know, driving a vehicle at the police, or they had a knife next to them or a gun next to them, and then they were shot while not holding it.
So it's it's just complete dishonesty.
Uh the old the aging communist Paul Mason, uh violent attacks on the police and anti-racists.
It's a sort of representation of good versus evil.
Uh the far right rally, football types, many already on their third can of lager.
Okay, this kind of mockery of the working class from a communist is um very Soviet.
Very properly Soviet.
They said that they were all for the working class, and they absolutely stomped their heads as quickly and as severely as they could.
The two are part of the problem.
The peasants are absolutely the problem.
Exactly.
Exactly.
The minute they came within the the radar of power, they say we need a vanguard party.
Yes.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And and look at what he calls himself radical social democrat.
Just call yourself a communist, Paul.
Yeah.
Just have the decency of respecting our intellect.
And one point to make uh it's interesting that the we all know this already.
I'm s uh restating the obvious.
But they go after Tommy so hard when, in fact, like he's a racist, he's a white supremacist or nothing, uh all that sort of thing.
No, he's a multiculturalist.
He's he's a fully multiculturalist.
He had like I'm to the right of Tommy Robinson, guys.
He hasn't like come on, didn't he have like a black choir singing there at one point.
He had brought on some Maoris.
He had Maori's like choir.
So it's a multiculturalist.
Uh he was multi-culty.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Very much so.
Very much so.
Okay.
But but here's the demonization.
This is the radicalized mass base of reform and the Tories wearing our country's flag as a badge of white identity.
Guys, if you didn't know that Britain is is white and India is brown, I don't know what to do for you.
Like I I don't know how to help you.
It's it's it's not Bo's fault that he's pale-skinned.
I don't hold it against him, and it's fucked up that you do.
Um we must learn the lessons of the 1930s.
And then you have that aging degenerate Peter Thatchell, uh, tens of thousands of supporters cheered speeches urging a ban of public expression of non-Christian religions based, demanded the re migration of legal migrants based, pushed COVID conspiracy theories.
Were you asleep during COVID?
And claimed that Britain is being invaded.
Where's the lie?
Yeah.
Like if if the illegal migrants outnumber the armed forces and they're all young men, what what's like I mean Peter, it is being invaded, it has been invaded, Peter.
And you see, I I just wanted to mention something from the the the stupid numbers machine called Grok.
Uh Tommy Robinson hasn't explicitly called for authoritarian ultranationalism in those words, but critics, example the Guardian and the ADL, uh point to his EDL founding anti-Islam conflict, rally rhetoric promoting strict nationalism, he's a multicultural, as fitting the description.
You know what?
Like, here's another bit.
If you constantly say they're about to destroy the society, you're essentially panda you you're just telling to your voters, hey guys, you're so great, keep voting for me because you're preventing the Armageddon.
Yes, pretty much.
And and the more you develop a sense that the the next time we lose an election, it's going to be a genocide, the more you justify violence.
And the more you say the people who vote for reform and the Tory party are fascist far right.
Yeah, they're they're they're not as left as Mao.
It's insane.
Uh I wanted to play this one-minute clip from Trevor Phillips of all people.
If you don't remember, he was Tony Blair's guy to look at inequality in Britain.
Yeah.
So his job was to go and woke the OG DIY.
The original DEI uh enforcer.
He's the he's the DEI tsar of Tony Blair.
That's who he is.
What conclusions did that commission or whatever it was come to?
Well, that we were all racist.
Everybody was racist.
I think systemically racist.
Everything all the time.
And he he here's what he says.
The most alarming aspect of the event was just how normal the vast majority of the marches were.
I spent an hour or two amongst them, and my own impression was that they were mostly the sort of people you'd meet in a country pub or in half-time queue for the loo at football or other concert.
There was a sprinkling of black and brown faces, and the event was brought to a close by a gospel group singing Jerusalem.
All that must worry the traditional mass parties, Labour and Conservatives, now polling at less than 40% between them.
They're draining support to parties like Reform and the Greens.
And yet a man recently out of jail, condemned as an extremist thug by most mainstream media outlets, can rally a demo, the size of the entire population of Cambridge or Blackpool.
And so you couldn't imagine either Sakir Starmer or Kemi Badenock pulling off any time soon.
Perhaps the people are sending us all a message.
Let's see if anyone at Westminster's listening.
And then because he said something sensible, Sky News took this clip down.
They the the sort of censorship wall around normal people and their grievances that goes through every single media establishment is absolutely crazy.
This is a guy saying that the protesters maybe have some legitimate grievances.
You might not look all like all of them.
I'm sure there were a couple of thugs there, but on the whole they're normal people.
And the response is no no no no, he never said it, we're gonna memory hold it instantly.
Just as the BBC is trying to memory hold the protest itself.
You can imagine, uh oh, Trevor Phillips has just revealed himself as a Nazi.
Like exactly Nazi or long.
Trevor Phillips, oh no, Trevor Phillips was one of them all along.
The OG DEI tsar of Tony Frickin' Blair.
And you can't listen to him saying these are normal people, and none of you can pull off a rally like this.
If Cammy Badenock called for a rally, who'd go there?
I I think other than the front bench of the Tory MPs, if they didn't have anything better to do, um nobody else would show up.
So these people are deliberately out of touch.
And exactly the point that you made.
It's not just that there was a much smaller number of arrests, Bo, it's that there were no weapons and no sexual offenses.
Nobody got raped, nobody got stabbed.
You can't say that about Notting Hill.
Look at how they cover Notting Hill, look at how they cover Unite the Kingdom.
How many twerking offences up against the policeman were all twerking as an offense?
And so Ed Davy and a bunch of Other commentators began to lose their minds because Elon Musk said some very nasty and dangerous things, including the violence is coming to you.
Now let's look at what Elon said with a little bit of context, please.
Um get the right seconds.
And not people.
And in fact, this is a government against the people.
And not for the people.
This is why everyone is gathered here today.
Is something's got to be done.
This is unacceptable.
It needs to protect Britain.
Those who cannot protect themselves, especially the children.
And when I read about some of the horrific stories and how the government did nothing and try to hide it.
They try to hide this these horrific crimes.
And then you see how much violence there's on the left.
With our our friend Charlie Cook getting murdered in cold blood this week.
And people on the left celebrating it openly.
And celebrating murder.
I mean, let that sink in for a minute.
So can we go to the that's one apparently terrible, terrible thing he said.
The British government should be responsive to the British people, the left is celebrating murder.
If you keep on celebrating murder, that by definition makes you the party of murder.
I mean, these were people who were laughing when this random comedian had a skit with a beheaded bloody Donald Trump.
Yeah.
They were celebrating all of that.
Um, whatever her name is.
Um they were constantly calling everybody who disagrees agrees with them one brand of far left or the other, yeah, please reload it and and then put it at the 5-10.
Um so they were constantly doing all of this, but um it's really bad that Elon Musk sort of pointed out that this is exactly what they were doing.
And then the other thing that got people very angry is this.
Could you play it please?
Which is to look carefully around you and say, if this continues, what what what world what world will you be living in?
This is this is a message to the reasonable center, the people who ordinarily wouldn't get involved in politics, uh who just want to live their lives, they don't want that they're quiet, they just go about their business.
My message is to them, if this continues, that violence is gonna come to you.
You will have no choice.
This is a this is you're you're in a fundamental situation here where you where whether you choose violence or not, violence is coming to you.
You either fight back or you die.
So fight this pissed off a lot of people because the language used was stark, but as as a sort of someone who's covered civil wars for pretty much all of my career, um that's exactly right.
If you allow the extremism to get out of control, if you don't try to contain it, you can't sit in the center and say I'm neutral, because the people chucking bombs at each other around you won't care about you.
So what Musk is saying, sorry, what Musk is saying is extremely sensible here, and it's absolutely correct.
It happens many times.
You will have someone like Musk or other people putting forward a descriptive statement and saying if things escalate, yes, and nothing reverses this polarization and escalation, things will get messy.
Yes.
That's a descriptive statement, and it's uncontroversial.
It's true.
Yep.
It's it's even axiomatic.
It's not but it's not a particularly controversial thing to say.
But Then the response of the other side is gonna be no that's not descriptive, that's exhort that's an exhortation to violence.
Exactly.
Because they want to find the flames of the alarmist narratives of victimhood in order to make their people think they're justified in committing violence.
Exactly.
Uh confirming the multiculturalism theme, there were a lot of protocol speeches that were anti-Islam, and I would argue rightly so, and I'll explain why.
Uh but Tommy Robinson puts out a tweet saying about saying that this Muslim guy went to the protest and actually liked it and thought that if there were three million people there, then maybe five hundred thousand he wouldn't have liked, but the rest you got along with perfectly.
So the idea that this was again some kind of insane racist march.
Okay.
You had people ripping up, you had Maori's ripping up the flags of the Muslim Brotherhood and Palestine for some reason, ISIS and um secular humanism, okay.
And then you have this mockery of the working class because some guy wanted Indian food.
Like it there's no contradiction between saying, okay, a certain percentage of people is acceptable, but I want my country to be overwhelmingly of my group, uh, and saying, okay, I enjoy foreign dishes here and there.
It's it's these are not completely opposed philosophical principles, and to treat them as such shows how poor your own understanding of philosophical principles is.
You're just trying to say they're working class, therefore they're racist, but they eat Indian food.
You're just being a jerk.
Oh, how much of the bottom of the barrel they're scraping when it comes to arguments.
Yeah.
So the thing is, uh, we know we've got the recipe for onion barges now.
We've actually got the recipe, so we can make them for ourselves, actually.
Even if we deported every single person, I'll tell you how to make Lebanese food before I go.
We'll still have onion barges.
You're never getting message like your recipe.
I wanna stay, right?
So there's this speech, Islam doesn't belong in Europe, Islam doesn't belong in the UK, Islam is an enemy.
I want to, and and this is posted by Dili Hussein, who's the deputy editor of Five Pillars, the mother of all fifth columnist uh websites, and these guys from the same website say the following.
I mean, I just see them as potential Muslims, you know.
That's like uh You know, I I see a pub as a future mosque.
That's what that's what I'm here to do.
You know, not to keep this country, not to be a minority in this country in a non-Muslim majority country.
I want this country to become Muslim, obviously, through a process of da'wah and not through violence or anything like that.
You you know how mealy-mouthed this is given how they defend their the the terrorists.
Even now on the hijab.
Yeah, I was having this discussion earlier on.
We're kind of um and then you see again the same idea from Five Pillars.
I do not see Britain as home, it is the abode of infidels, I am supportive of the Taliban.
Uh Muslims in Britain should withdraw their children from school, especially the girls.
I won't play the whole clip, but please go ahead and watch it.
So hold what do you expect people to tell you when you say this?
Or is it that you think that you're speaking to a Muslim channel and nobody will know that you said it?
If you say this and then you object to people saying Islam is an enemy, do you think that you're suffering from some cognitive dissonance?
Is is is that a small possibility.
Um I think they feel like that their opponents are just so cowed that they can say anything.
They can do both.
Yes.
They can do both.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And it doesn't matter that they don't marry up.
No, it seems like people are beginning to actually say that they've noticed.
Yep.
Uh, but again, to be fair, there is some sensible coverage from some quarters.
Talk TV having a stance against mass immigration and concerns over multiculturalism is not far right or racist.
Yeah, obviously.
Watch some of the Tommy Robinson rally on live stream, and there is this collection of different people from different groups, obviously not British, obviously participating there happily.
And the message is that this is far right fascism, and everybody's going to die if we listen to the people who were there on Saturday.
They're crazy.
Another bit of good news from stand-up to racism.
I can't resist playing this.
Uh...
And we've just gotten back from the uh counter demo against Tommy Robinson.
And I think before we go to the lessons, we really have to look at the reality of what this demo was, and that is a pretty humiliating defeat.
If we look at the numbers alone, Tommy Robinson's side seems to have gotten around a million.
And on our side, lucky if it was 15,000, more likely 10,000.
So I think maybe if we just start there, you know, like how how did we get here?
How did you get here?
You lost all the arguments.
You lost all the arguments.
You kept on doubling down in the face of reality.
You insisted on denying everything true and good in life, and aside from a small insane fringe that is getting increasingly violent, everybody else turned their backs to turn their backs on you.
That's how you got here, mate.
Anyway, shall we look at a couple of the comments?
Right.
So Don Browning sends us a cheerleader emoji.
Thank you.
Thanks very much.
What happened?
Oh, sorry.
They say we're practicing culture uh cancel culture while they practice assassin culture.
We're not the same.
Also, I I want to say that it's not an issue of council culture because and or um violating free speech, it's an issue of freedom of assembly.
If I know you are you're uh hanging out with someone I've heard is a total psychopath, and I tell you, mate, this guy's a total psychopath, and you start parting ways with them.
It's not we're not disrespecting freedom of speech, is it's an it's a different issue.
There's a crazy rhetoric that uh leftists have against the right now.
Dreadnought Logan says communists are not for the working class, they just want to be the nobles, just can't admit that to themselves.
Skar Kid uh says England is becoming the same England from V for Vendetta in real time, both the good and bad.
However, it's important to remember that the people win.
Yep.
A drunk changeling says Indian people like eating cake, so really they kind of deserved colonialism.
How do you hate cake so much?
Right?
Uh the Hapsification says people forget Tommy wrote a book last year about Britain being demographically replaced, and Tommy has said Britain needs to be over 90% white British.
Yeah.
Yes.
Where is it?
Uh let me see.
I'm trying to see the green announcement for video comment number one, Taylor.
We have your email, and a replacement is on its way to you.
Oh.
Okay.
Taylor, a replacement is on its way.
Thank you for your video comment.
Thanks.
Okay, let's go to play a videos.
Um, I think it's time to start advocating for legal removal of mainstream media companies.
Um it's one of the main thoughts of why the Kirk is dead, is the lies that they have pushed.
Um just overboard and divisive.
And no longer a free press of news, it's now just a um propaganda arm.
Uh so they should be removed.
It was one of the things I said in my article, which very briefly was published on the mail out.
Uh, my roadmap uh which got me deselected from reform.
It was one of the things in there, which I imagine was one of the things that the leadership at reform thought was beyond the power.
I said exactly that.
I said, Yeah, uh, end the BBC, end Channel 4 news.
I even said the male group.
I did a massive list.
I was even like the Times.
I said the whole male group.
That was too Much for the likes of Lord Young, Toby Young.
Lots of people thought that was far too far, that was far too authoritarian.
No, no, no.
No, no, I don't think so.
No, it's a matter of it's becoming a matter of life and death.
It's becoming an existential threat.
So yeah, call it authoritarian, then if you want, fine.
But it's something that might need to happen.
It's a thing all throughout history in the modern in modern times, going back a couple of hundred years, that you've got a a free press.
Yes, which is absolutely traitorous and subversive.
Yeah, that's something that modern uh quote unquote free societies have to deal with.
It's one of the monkeys on their back.
It's it's a real problem.
The the media is a real problem, and how to fix it in a in a good way is is a real challenge.
I I don't have an answer for you.
Well, just a touch of authoritarianism.
No, we'll go in and we'll shut down Channel 4 News.
Yeah, you're trying to destroy our society.
Yeah.
So we're not the government is not gonna let you do that anymore.
Yeah, call me a Sullah, call me a tyrant, yeah, fine, but I'm saving the nation.
It just takes some political balls, doesn't it?
Yes.
A church here wouldn't think twice.
Lincoln wouldn't think twice.
No, they they absolutely wouldn't.
No, that's something just happening now.
Yeah.
Let's play the second video.
Good times never seem so good I don't mind Even times never seem so good Sweet paralyzer Ex Muslims united.
Thanks, Rashan.
Let's go to the next one.
So with everything that was going on this week, I figured I'd send a little more wholesome content.
Thanks, Michael.
This is as I've introduced before, this is Sakura.
She's a black female Shivaino.
More correctly, a Gokusho Mame Shiva.
She's a basically a toy Shiba, and this is Duke.
This is my son's dog.
And they're taking a little bit of a break from a very healthy early morning game of boss.
Thanks, Mike.
Quite sure, but it's it's it's a wholesome video.
So with the death of Rain Zluska and the death of uh Charlie Kirk, it's pretty apparent to me that evil does exist in this world, and there are evil people out there.
And my question is this is there a non-Christian way of confronting this evil, and is there a way of confronting this evil ideology we call wokeism out of people, saving them from corruption.
Can I try to answer?
Huge huge You want to.
There is I won't speak in absolutes, because not everybody agrees with me, but my own conversion was based on discovering the extent of evil that exists in this world.
The and it led me to conclude that original sin is real and that the devil is real.
And when you see that, uh when I saw that, I had no choice other than to choose Christian Christianity and the love of Christ as the only possible antidote.
And my view has since solidified, and it's become that unless you build on the rock that is Peter, your ability to think clearly is going to be somewhat limited.
Um that's my personal answer.
I don't speak for anybody else, I don't speak for the lotus eaters, I speak only for myself, but that's my personal answer to your question.
You have to choose the cross.
Yeah.
I respect your answer for myself.
I would say that yeah, you it's possible to know right and wrong whilst being completely ignorant of the scriptures and the gospel.
Um, you know, throughout history there've been people that had no concept of those things, like the ancient Greeks, Aristotle, Socrates or something, that were still able to discern right from wrong.
But either way, either way, you're he's right.
There is evil in the world.
Yes.
There is evil in the world.
And uh it is sort of your duty to confront it and battle it if you can.
If you've got anything in the tank, whatever you gotta do.
Uh whatever it takes, whatever works for you.
So there are many questions that that's not just a question of what to do about evil, is what to do in uh what context.
So you could say that there's one question whether you can turn evil people good.
I think there is a percentage of people you can't turn good.
It's just I don't know, I don't see how.
And um there is also the question of what you do in a society.
I did a video last week on the daily about approaches to punishment.
I think you need to be very strict in enforcing the law in a realistic fashion and communicate across the board that there will be consequences rather than play the ultra sentimental leftist card where you constantly say try to give excuses for the most heinous of crimes.
But this is just uh actually a really good question, and we should definitely have a huge discussion about it.
We we can't do it now in the world.
Me and Ferris have talked about having a conversation about exactly that really.
I think that would be good.
I'd I'm I'm up for it.
I don't really enjoy it.
Let's go to the next one.
As a classical liberal, it hurts me to say this, but Charlie Kirk's murder has convinced me that we need to stop being so absolute about rights.
It's clearly not feasible to have this political freedom, and we have to consider the safety of innocent people.
So far, every political assassination in the USA and the most recent murder and attempted murders of political figures has one factor in common, and it's for this reason that we need common sense restrictions on leftists.
I'm not saying ban them, no one is coming for your leftists, but it's clear that they pose a heightened risk to life and limb, and there's no reason for them to be in schools on university campuses or at public events, and no one needs to own a high capacity leftist gathering.
Very good video comment.
Let's go.
Next one very good.
In the 19th century, they're often called anarchists.
Yes.
Perfect idea, gentlemen.
This is how we invade Britain.
Tell the general to order 1,000 rubber dinghy boats on Amazon next day delivery.
This is how we invade the British and win the war.
Sir, the Germans are coming.
Hold your fire, man.
Those are doctors and engineers.
Why aren't they shooting at us?
The bloody fools must think we are doctors and engineers.
The plan worked.
Was that all AI generated?
Was that a skit off TV or something?
That was good.
All right.
All right.
Let's go to our comments now and uh read some.
Because also there's the show by Faras at 3 PM.
Do join.
Right.
So uh Blandin Broomfield says interviewed with his high school class classmates showed that he had begun to be radicalized in the tenth grade.
Okay.
Well interesting.
I'll check it out.
Anonyme says Utah is not the right wing utopia people think it is.
It's suffering from radical leftism in certain places, like everywhere else, such as Salt Lake City, because Utah is so conservative in certain locations.
So no, certain locations become radically opposite.
I disagree that he was radicalized in university.
He was already radicalized in high school and pushed further by being per terminally online.
discord is very important here as number of servers will have groomers um i mean we did mention we did mention uh social media when we spoke about radicalization and also it's highly unlikely that university played zero part when he's 22 years old chance from canada says obviously more than one person knew about this There were mar multiple patsies in the crowd, old man to identify one.
Neighbors reports suspicious out-of-state license plates convening at the household.
Leftists on X posting something big happening to Charlie tomorrow, the day before.
Sophie Liv says it's wild to think about all this Trump and his followers or Nazis' rhetoric has now gone on for over nine years.
Yes.
This young man is twenty two, so it has been his life since he was thirteen.
For all of his formative years, after it's all he has known, and so many others we currently see on TikTok and his age group.
The radicalization among young people is dangerous and very tragic.
Right.
So the right org uh Omar Awad says the right organizers slowly, but when it acts will be laser focused and effective.
The worry isn't that Trump will act heavy-handed, but that the right will act without his moderating influence.
I believe Larry Correa coined the expression the left has a dial, the right has a switch.
The finding out part of the equation will be swift, brutal, and merciless.
Someone online says they choose not to take responsibility because they have to be the victims.
That's what their whole thing is based on.
Therefore, anything they do is not their fault.
That's also one of the reasons why I just can't see how to treat them as equals.
Because when I try want to see equal people uh treat someone as equal, I need to treat them as responsible human beings rather than someone who is constantly making excuses for themselves and blaming other people.
I just I just can't.
Yeah.
Michael Drybleby says the difference between Charlie and the left.
Charlie was prepared to have a dialogue and discuss actual ideas.
Bad news for the left, he was the moderate voice.
Now that he's gone, they have galvanized the right.
And uh should we go do you want me to read comments from yours?
Uh I can do I could read them, whatever you want.
Okay.
Um let me see from Kevin Fox.
Bo, how can you say AOC is not well read?
She has memorized all four cocktail menus and all the specials for the week.
I don't want to make fun of the working class for working.
Uh it's funny, she is a dumbass, but let's not make fun of her for that part.
She uh she suffers from malapropisms when you get the get a word wrong.
Yes.
You say the the wrong word.
Yes, yes.
Uh uh.
How convenient.
Fenn Scotty of Swindon.
The thing I hate about the left is how they act outraged for you doing anything in response to their aggression.
Yes.
You fight or you die is not an extreme statement when we have within the last couple of weeks.
A normal man was murdered in public for his moderate opinions, and these demons celebrated it and claimed that more people should do the same to more people who are themselves moderate.
And that's not just what we have the last weeks.
We had the Irina Zarutska, we had the Christian Assyrian who was murdered while he was live streaming in Paris.
Yes.
We had a couple that was uh murdered after being tortured five hours by someone who was released for six for six times.
There it's not just that.
Yeah.
It's a hellish week.
Monkey Smoke says I carried my cardboard sign with foot-sized letters spelling Charlie Kirk on Saturday.
Charlie Kirk made me a better person, and his effect on my son is joyous for me.
I love Charlie Kirk always.
I will carry my sign on every rally in London from now on.
May God bless everyone.
May God bless you, yes.
He did make people better because of his commitment to to to God.
Arizona Desert Rat says the number of unarmed black men getting shot per year is more like five to eight.
In the US, if a knife or car is being used in an attempt to hurt someone, it's considered a weapon.
No, when the Washington Post did their data from where I got the ten to twenty, um they included uh cars as being unarmed.
And they included a weapon next to you as not being in your arm, you know.
Uh I think that's it from today.
We're a little bit over time.
Yeah.
Now we will see you again in twenty-five minutes.
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