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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1224
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Who are the men that pick for scraps amongst the ruins at the end of history?
You should know, because you encounter them every day.
Between the towering buildings of a fallen empire, we find the Felahen, the historyless men, who know nothing of the turning of the cosmic wheel and find themselves outside of civilization itself.
Cut loose from the great chain of being, they represent the low into which our dying culture will return.
That is, unless we choose to take up the burden once again.
This Felahen condition is the subject we explore in issue four of Islander magazine on sale while stocks last and available worldwide at shop.loadseaters.com Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen welcome to the podcast of the load seaters for Wednesday the 6th of August 2025 I am joined by Dan and Nate from MrH reviews and we are going to be discussing which left-wing activists we're going to be taking as our second third wives.
Now that was what we were discussing before the podcast I'm afraid.
That's a more interesting conversation.
We had to stop.
I made sure my mic was pushed well away from me while you know just in case it was live.
No what we're actually going to be be talking about is Trump not being able to serve Israel and America, Nigel Farage going left wing, and why we're just going to be asking the question, why do the Democrats have such weird, pervious, degenerate and morally abhorrent artwork on their walls?
What is going on here?
It's all a bit bloody peculiar, and so we'll begin.
So before we start, go and get Islander magazine.
Stocks are going fast, so go to shop dot lotsys dot com.
It's an excellent edition issue, whatever I want to say.
I, of course, have got an essay in there, and it's brilliant, if I may say so.
Otherwise, that was a really good trailer actually.
Who put that together?
Well, I wrote the script.
Right.
I guess the chaps edited it.
They did a good job.
Oh, thank you.
And you, I mean, the script was lovely too.
That's not working, so let's go.
Yeah, right.
So, you may, you may remember The Bible.
Any of you familiar with The Bible?
From Matthew 624, you haven't read it.
I haven't.
I haven't.
Okay.
From Matthew 624, No man can serve two masters.
Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other.
You cannot serve both God and money.
And my goodness, isn't Donald Trump learning this because his approval rating is taking a dive and I'm not alone in suspecting that it's Donald Trump's I don't know how to describe it without sounding like I'm on a team here.
Affinity.
Affinity for Israel is a good way of putting it.
Well, I know which team he should be on because he's the president of the US, so that gives you a clue.
Kind of follows on the name, doesn't it?
But he's definitely taking a bit of a hit in his popularity.
For example, I mean, his approval rating, as this article tells us, he's down to 38% in a recent poll, with 58% disapproval rating, which is a significant drop, six points, since their last poll.
Well, also, in telling me, South Park came out with that hit thing on him, and Republicans were like, yeah, fair enough.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, don't argue with South Park, because obviously it's arguing the court jester, but still, why are you in a position where South Park can mock you in quite an effective way?
And basically get no pushback for it.
Yeah.
Well, the interesting thing about that, I think it's mildly interesting anyway, is that South Park chose not...
not chose to mock him by proxy with Mr. Garrison becoming Donald Trump before, and they never actually waded into it properly.
They just satirized him via Mr. Garrison, but it wasn't actually really satirizing him that much.
And now they've just gone, yeah, we'll just do the whole thing.
I mean, why not?
You're having sex with Satan with your tiny dick.
It's like, okay, that's new.
I mean, at least it wasn't Satan, not Hippy.
I mean, they could have gone one further.
Well, I mean, on that note, we'll get to that in a minute.
But yeah, so anyway, Trump's ratings are going down, and everyone is well aware that the Epstein Files have been not necessarily a public concern, but it's really put a ridge, carved a groove in the base.
And then you had him being booed at a WWE event, which is really weird because, I mean, he's in the WWE Hall of Fame.
I mean, the demographic of WWE as well.
You'd think that that's his base.
Well, they are.
Isn't it?
Right.
Well, he's high testosterone and therefore it's right wing.
No, he should be able to get cheered at any of these.
And he used to be.
He absolutely used to be.
So you can see that the direction that Trump has been taking recently has not exactly been improving his standing with his own base.
And this, I think, this is a concern because the midterms are going to be coming up in like a year or whatever it is, a year and a half.
And at the moment, Trump's in a good position to get a lot of stuff done, but this could change and he could end.
with his last couple of years as just a lame duck presidency that gets nothing done, which wouldn't be good.
And so actually working for the good of America primarily and not being like a street sweeper for Israel would be much more sensible.
And I hate to say it because I've been a massive Trump supporter since 2017.
I went to Trump town to get my MAGA hat in New York.
And so watching him basically cleaning up after Netanyahu every day is just frustrating.
And the first six months were so good.
He came in with so much energy.
He was getting so much done, 100% behind him.
Every day we're like, this is what he's done.
It's amazing.
He's going so strong.
And then Iran just, sorry, Israel just decided, yeah, we want to pick a fight with Iran.
And it's just tanked everything.
So Trump had to clean that up.
Yeah.
I actually forgot to include that because there were other things, but you're right.
Israel, like, yeah, they started a war with Iran and they couldn't finish it.
And Trump had to bomb them to get it to stop.
I mean, the Epstein files as well, that has just been tragic mismanagement of optics and so easily resolved as well.
Like, oh, it's a hoax.
They made it up.
There's nothing in there though either.
So like, oh, well, that's a pretty bad hoax then, isn't there?
So step one.
Sure, sure, sure, if it's a sure they would have done something then, wouldn't they if they made a what?
Step one, hire one of the most prominent Epstein talking podcasters to your deputy chief of the FBI.
Step two, call the whole thing a hoax.
Oh, no, no.
Send influencers out with files that everyone had already.
Whoa, look at this.
It's phase one.
Okay, well, what's phase two?
Nothing, it was a hoax.
Was it phase one?
It's on my desk.
Oh, there's nothing that there's nothing on my desk actually.
Yeah, for goodness sake.
Oh, I'm watching poor old Dan Bongino go, no, no, he killed himself.
It looked like a hostage video.
It was like, look Dan, I know you know.
Yeah.
You know, and I I was genuinely optimistic.
But I like who knows what he's been threatened with or what he found or whatever, you know, God only knows.
The Epstein situation as well as Israel, both of those things are that seem to be the litmus test now for, you know, his base going, is he actually, does he actually believe in everything he's saying?
Is he, does he have any conviction behind the rhetoric that we saw on the lead up, you know, and was everything, you know, before performative?
I mean, the other files, that's nothing was, whereas nothing was revealed either.
It's like, right, so which ones which are we just getting?
Well, the whole core of it is exactly where you started.
You can't serve two masters.
And this really is the issue that he's going to have to decide on, or he's going to find that his presidency is rent in two.
So this, again, I just want to be completely clear.
We've been big Trump supporters, and I'm personally very neutral on the Israel-Gaza thing.
It's not my business.
I don't care.
There are terrible things happening all over the world every day, and I don't weigh in on those.
And so I'm kind of resentful that I have to weigh in on this, because this just doesn't feel like my business.
I'm not connected to it.
I don't care about whatever the civil war is in Sudan, or in the Congo, or the Saudi-Yemen bombings and all this.
And no one else cares either.
It's only on this that we have to be like, okay, now someone's dragging me into it.
And unfortunately, it's Donald Trump.
So anyway, Israel has been taking the gloves off when it comes to Gaza.
And there are lots of people...
I mean, this is just ruins of Gaza.
Lots of people are like, well, this is pretty bad, isn't it?
And yet, this is absolutely atrocious.
and don't get me wrong, on October the 7th, yeah it was an absolute massacre an atrocity The answer isn't just level everything in Gaza.
Boots on the ground, I'm afraid, is the answer.
If you're like, well, we have to get rid of Hamas, which is the Israeli line, well, then you have to get troops in there and find those men and take them out.
I mean, if they had if they had done that, even if they'd done it really heavy handedly, like troop, you know, troop carriers going through the streets, armed men jumping out, pulling people out of houses, the world would have accepted that.
But just carpet bombing the place, like that's a bit harder.
Yeah, it's just not acceptable.
And so Israel is losing the PR war.
Completely losing the PR war.
And they know it.
This is the thing.
They know it.
They know that they're going over, they're crossing a Rubicon that they can't just come back from.
I almost appreciate the balls of them, to be honest.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm not, I'm not saying I approve of it wholeheartedly, but I mean, you've got some stones to do what they've done.
Yeah.
I mean, you can't deny that they have balls, but when they're kind of doing the Roman option.
Yeah.
Yeah, we're just going to salt the land.
Yeah, but that's not that doesn't wash in the modern era.
Oh, no, of course not.
You know, it wasn't very nice then either.
Anyway, so this is getting really, really, really bad and there's just no hiding it, there's no getting away from it and it's tough for Israelis and pro-Israeli activists on social media, but I mean, it's just everywhere and you just got to look it in the face, really.
And even Trump is like, well, look, there is real starvation in Gaza.
He says he's not convinced by Israeli denials of starvation in Gaza.
He's seen the pictures on TV and said the children look hungry.
That's real starvation stuff.
You can't fake that.
So, right, we all agree then.
He acknowledges it.
Yeah, he acknowledges it, right?
I mean, all things being equal, when they've got closed borders and they're being carpet bombed, I would generally expect to find people going hungry.
It would be very unusual if they weren't.
Yeah.
And so Trump accepts that this is an issue that Israel has caused.
And so he's like, yeah, I think Israel can preside over the USA distribution in Gaza.
What?
Why would you do that?
I'm not sure that's going to be the optimal.
Ah, yes.
They'll do a good job of delivering aid to Gaza.
They probably won't, will they?
Well, no!
Their intention is quite literally to get rid of them all.
I mean, it does look like just straightforward ethnic cleansing at this point.
Now, just to be clear, because I know people are going to kick off in the comments one way.
There's going to be those people who support Gaza are going to kick off.
There's people who support Gaza.
Yeah, I know.
This is why I hate this subject.
I mean, to be fair, I mean, Fara has quite a good line on it.
These two people deserve each other, because they both do awful things to each other all the time, they just keep escalating yes long history of the Middle East summarized in this conflict um but yeah Trump has said that Israel will run food distribution centers in Gaza which they yeah it's just like that's very optimistic um speaking to reporters on this presidential jet, he stressed the Israeli talking point that Hamas steals food assistance distributed in Gaza, a claim that's been denied by aid groups.
But the thing is, I think there's probably something to that as well.
Oh, I'd imagine they probably do.
You've seen the footage of them.
They're all fat.
Yeah.
They're all fat.
Or the fighters, the Hamas fighters.
They're all chubby.
Yeah.
And it's just like, right, okay, you're not starving.
so someone's to Yeah, exactly.
Somebody's getting food.
Somebody's not getting food.
And so I think there's basically validity on both sides of the argument.
But I think Faraz is probably right here.
They just deserve each other.
But anyway, yeah, I wouldn't exactly give Israel the keys to the city on this one.
Because, like, you've got., what is this, Human Rights Watch?
this is a report from Human Rights Watch, but many different people and groups now have accused Israel of shooting at people who are going to these food trucks to get food.
Well, when you say people have accused, It's formally defense soldiers who have made these accusations.
Yes, but also others as well.
It's not just those.
But Beckles Will Willy, the Associate Crisis and Conflict Director at Human Rights Watch, said, Israeli forces are not only deliberately starving Palestinian civilians, they are now gunning them down almost every day as they desperately seek food for their families.
US backed Israeli forces and private contractors have put in place a flawed militarised aid distribution system that has turned aid distributions into regular bloodbaths.
It's like, right, yeah.
So I don't think Israel should be in charge of distributing the Palestinian food.
Can't help but feel, I mean, there have been loads of statements from Israeli politicians that are just about, like, can we just ship them all to Europe and stuff like this?
Like, oh.
Hey, no thanks.
Yeah, we, you know, like, thanks, but no thanks.
And so Trump has had to clean this up and he's like, right, okay, I'll take over the aid effort.
It's like, great.
So now you, like, rather than reining Israel in, which is what really should be happening.
Bringing them to here, I'm actually saying, sort yourself out now.
Exactly.
I mean, after you have to clean up the Iran issue with Israel.
Now having to clean up this, is there anything Israel can do that Donald Trump will put his foot down on?
I'm pretty certain Donald Trump yesterday made some kind of proclamation of any companies in or states.
The boycotting thing.
Yeah, boycotting.
We'll get it.
Oh, okay, you've got it.
Yeah, yeah.
I couldn't believe that.
The thing I can't get my head around is why does Israel have this much power over the US?
I've never heard a satisfactory answer to that.
Do you have one?
It might be linked to some fire.
Sorry, Samson, I actually forgot to put those links in at the end.
Can you do us a favor?
And I did have that in my browser, I just forgot to put it in at the end of my second.
Well, I mean, while he's loading that in, I mean, I can see again.
Again, referring to Firas, because he's done some great work on his series.
He's done a bit on Iran and Israel and that kind of stuff.
And I get the geopolitical overview, which is, look, that region of the world, the Middle East, is normally controlled by one of...
So basically Egypt, Turkey, or Iran, one of them ends up dominating that region.
And so the reason why the U.S. wants Israel in there is because it's grit in the mill that stops anything from happening in that area.
So I get it, but you could make the same argument for supporting the Philippines in that triangle in the South China Sea between Indonesia, Japan, and China.
But why does Israel get not the same amount of support as the Philippines does, which is doing the same geopolitical function?
I don't get what's going on here.
Well, that's the question.
And a lot of people will say, well, look at the amount of money that APAC spends on American politicians.
I mean, they literally raise millions and millions of dollars for those.
There are websites that show the contributions of APAC.
And Tucker Carlson actually confronted Ted Cruz about this the other day.
And Ted Cruz was like, well, you know, we just raise money.
And it's like, okay, but that's the problem, Ted.
Yeah.
The problem is you're becoming financially dependent for your political campaign.
So if you want to draw the money aspect on a foreign country.
If you want to draw the money aspect in and how money flows work across the world, well, suddenly I can start to see something going on.
Right.
But then you have questions of compromise from Mossad and the questions of the Epstein files.
And so this, whether this is correct or not, this is the impression that many people have.
But certainly it's certainly an odd thing to do, isn't it?
Like this is the hell everyone's going to die on just Israel.
So I think really?
Yeah.
Is there anything that Israel can do that goes too far?
And the answer appears to be just no, actually.
So anyway, yeah, Trump apparently has said, quote, he's not thrilled about the idea of the US taking taking charge, but it kind of has to happen.
There doesn't seem to be another way.
I mean, there is.
Yeah, you could just stop giving Israel billions of dollars to have all the weapons that they're using to.
Well, and a blank check to act.
Yeah.
I mean, you could literally just say, you are going to stop.
Yeah.
Because we are the US and you are not.
That's how that's going to go.
The starvation problem in Gaza is getting worse.
Trump doesn't like that.
He doesn't want babies to starve.
He wants mothers to be able to nurse their children.
He's becoming fixated on that, an official said.
A second US official said the administration will be careful not to get dragged too deep into the Gaza crisis.
I think you're a bit late for that.
The horse has bolted at this point.
I think you are definitely quite involved.
We're going to take over Gaza aid, but we don't get too involved.
Yeah.
Well, exactly.
And so Israel is planning to occupy Gaza just completely.
And it's like, right, okay.
Like that's that's going to end brilliantly, isn't it?
Netanyahu has been meeting with his senior security officials to discuss the plans to do this.
And when asked about this, Trump was like, well, you know, it's kind of up to Israel, isn't it?
It's like, is it?
I remember saying that as well.
Support Israel reoccupying all of Gaza has been suggested by some Israeli officials.
Well, I don't know what the suggestion is.
I know that we are there now trying to get people fed.
As you know, $60 million was given by the United States fairly recently to supply food and a lot of food, frankly, for the people of Gaza that are obviously not doing too well with the food.
And I know Israel is going to help us with that in terms of distribution and also money.
We also have the Arab states are going to help us with that in terms of the money and possibly distribution.
So that's what I'm focused on.
As far as the rest of it, I really can't say that's going to be pretty much up to Israel.
Yeah, please.
So they've just got free hand.
Why don't you know?
Yeah.
know what the suggestion is.
You are the US, why don't you know?
You should know what is going on.
It's so, so bizarre.
And yeah, the bit that I forgot to include at the end was that the trump administration was planning on not giving federal funds as disaster relief in aid to states that had boycotted israel so mostly democrat states um right so if if if you're on your roof and and the tornado's come in and there's water running past your second floor you've now got to go through your ex history and delete all your anti-israel posts before you can get a helicopter to come in and rescue you.
Well, I'm afraid it's not your choice actually.
If the state is in the the democratic governor of the state has been like, right, okay, I don't agree with what you're doing in Gaza, we're going to boycott Israel.
Trump's like, well, you're not going to you're not going to get relief aid if there's a hurricane or something like that.
It's like, that's not exactly America first, is it?
No.
That's not exactly putting the American public.
It just sounds like some country first.
It's very definitely some country being put first.
I mean, that's mental.
That's actually mental.
Hard to believe it would even have been a consideration at a cabinet meeting, right?
Yeah.
Right.
Okay.
So what do we need to do to get them to be on Israel's side?
Well, we could withhold relief funding, right?
You know, it's just American citizens who are starting to do that arc of that cam character from Civil War, you know, the guy with the green sunglasses who's like, yeah, but what kind of American are you?
Oh yeah.
Or are you a pro-Israeli American?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that's that's absolutely bonkers though.
That's massive.
It's not just me.
That's legitimately insane.
It's like Sins of the Father, though.
But even if I didn't vote for them, I'm going to die.
It's like, what?
What?
I mean, why was that even why?
Why did anyone suggest that?
Yeah, I mean, well, that's the point, isn't it?
Why was this even in your minds?
Let's not talk of arriving at a policy position that the base had to chimp out at?
Oh no.
Absolutely spurg out all over social media.
And then they they they walked out around and said, Okay, no, no, we won't do that actually.
Because actually that would be, that would be crazy.
Oh, no, a state has boycotted Israel.
Yeah, exactly.
What are you doing?
Honestly, I'm just like, Yeah.
I don't understand it and I can't even fathom what must be underneath it.
But the thing is, when you start adding all these things up, you realize that there is just a deeply unhealthy relationship between America and Israel.
It has to be completely disconnected.
Like remove, these ties are, they're reprehensible when you're, you're going to risk.
I mean, okay.
US citizens' lives.
I mean, this is just mental.
It could literally get Americans killed.
There's no justification for that behavior at all from an US president.
And there's obviously a far more sort of hardline position on Israel and narrative in Israel that I'm not a fan of, but like, you know, the.
They don't seem like the most grateful bunch.
Of course not.
And I that's what I find particularly galling.
It's like, where was JD Vance going?
You didn't say thank you.
Yeah, exactly.
To beat me.
Exactly.
And ironically, I'm not a fan of Zelensky, but he seems a lot more grateful to the Americans and to the West than the bloody Israelis do.
Yeah, I hate Zelensky, but he does seem a little bit more gr grateful than Netanyahu, to be honest.
Like I said, I'm not a fan of Zelensky, but I prefer him over Netanyahu.
Anyway, so yeah, I just can't get over Trump's relationship with Israel and America's relationship with Israel more broadly.
And it's, I think, the reason that his poll ratings are tanking and that his base is booing him when he goes to WWE matches.
I think he needs to get a real handle on this and basically just sack him and be like, Israel, you're going to have to do as I say now.
This is the tail is wagging the dog here, and that's not acceptable.
If I want you to do something, you're just going to have to do it.
And if you want to have a big confrontation about it, then the confrontation just has to be had, frankly.
Anyway, we'll leave that there.
That's a random name, says, wouldn't it be crazy if the West's largest generation, the boomers, get one shot by a sob story about our greatest ally?
And if you dare question that story, you get jailed.
Well, I mean, like, I think...
Gen X are kind of on it.
But the boomers, you know, who are absolutely Israeli diehards, they're getting too old now.
Well, I mean, the reason the Gen X is like that is because they've known their whole life, if you talk on this issue you basically get excommunicated whereas zoomers don't have jobs anyway so it's like why should they care yeah exactly that's exactly right um yeah so it's a it's an issue whose time is coming frankly uh right let's go on to farage all right well we need to talk about uh nigel al farage um or as i like to call him nigel fragile a little bit good uh he's woke now oh yes we heard yeah you know yeah uh i saw jk rouling tweet
about him mm yeah um this this guy man honestly This guy effectively Cameronite Tory rising from the ashes, aren't they?
That's effectively what these individuals at Reform are.
It's quite insane.
Sorry, do you want the give me that little bit.
It used to be higher than that.
I'm sure it was higher than that, their poll ratings.
Yeah, yeah, so they're going backwards in the polls.
They've also lost members.
Reformers as an entity have started to reach what looks like their kind of capacity.
So when you say they've lost members, is that over and above the many, many that they have booted out themselves because they said a vaguely right wing thing?
Yeah, they've got a counter and it's just started going down.
They've been going backwards.
Yeah, they've lost a little bit.
They lost something like 10,000, because they've done it on a yearly subscription.
So after a year, if you don't renew your subscription, and so 10,000 clocked up.
Man, is it too much to ask?
Our far-right parties are just far-right.
Is it too much to ask?
Just to explain for the Americans, the way it works in this country, we've got two parties, Labour, which openly say we're going to betray you.
Tories are the most successful political party of all time, because they claim that we're not going to betray you, and then do.
And all he had to do was do the Tory playbook of saying we're not going to betray you.
But he's not even in office yet, and he's just openly saying all this stuff.
already started doing it so they like i said i think that they've reached their capacity by the looks of it and whether this is what they're doing now is like a conscious move to destroy the games they'd made.
No, no, no.
I mean, it doesn't make any sense, doesn't it, to be fair?
It doesn't make any sense at all.
Let me shift this over.
So we've got...
Effectively, what happened was Nigel Farage came out and did this big...
Yeah, this press conference with, again, more Tories, more Tory defectors, more Tory defectors, one Tory defector and one ex-governor.
Is it like a boomer Tory Tory retirement hope.
This is what I mean, it's the Tory Phoenix.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
They're in Whitaker, aren't they?
They've burned down and so they're trying to reinvigorate themselves.
So I think we should play this if you can.
Can we play this please, Samson?
When it comes to trans women in prisons, I, you know, isn't it interesting that we run our country with people who become ministers who generally have absolutely no idea of the subject matter that they're talking about?
I've personally never worked in a prison so I can't answer it, but I think you'll find that the answer that you'll get from some women who have not been to prisons at the highest possible level is basically it's about risk assessment, isn't it?
Yeah, I think so.
I mean, we all know what the law is.
I'm not going to go back over that yet again.
But to my mind, everybody who is in prison deserves to be treated with humanity and decency.
And that includes female prisoners and it includes trans prisoners.
And, you know, everything in the prison service is risk assessed.
And I am sure that.
that the prison service will tie itself up in knots over the trans issue, just like many other public sectors have.
And as Nigel said earlier, you know, we are at the beginning and that is something that we will need to speak about clearly.
Yeah.
Yeah, but in terms of the problems in prisons, it's a relatively small one.
Yes, it is.
Right.
Thank you.
Tenny Diver, tell us.
So there's a few takehomes from that that I want to raise.
Yeah.
So, so, for one, well, I've never worked in a prison, so I can't really talk about it.
Yes, you can.
Yes, you can.
Shut up.
Of course you can.
You imbecile.
You raging imbecile.
Of course you can.
That's the same argument that people made, the Democrats.
You're allowed to talk about things even if you haven't.
Yeah, like what's a woman?
I'm not a biologist, so I can't.
Sorry.
Yeah.
And then, so case by case basis, what are you doing?
You absolute clown.
It's just nonsense.
Tell us how you really feel.
Yeah, I can go on.
The ex-governor, the ex-prisoner governor saying that, well, you know, we're going to tie ourselves out up and not to battle you don't actually have to you don't have to tie yourself up and not to battle actually you can just go no this is this is what it is it's done it's not up for debate yes that's done it's locked in it's done and nigel's commentary at at the start there, I think, is kind of emblematic of the issue with reform as a whole.
Well, it's a relatively small issue.
So, okay, well, then it should be really easy for you to resolve it, actually.
So, if you can't get into, if you can't deal with these very, very small minor, by your own emissions, minor issue, how are you going to deal with the big ones?
And he immediately turns it into a process question.
Yeah.
Managerial.
Yeah.
No, notice, one thing that struck me listening to her talk there is notice how she's describing prisoners as if they're the victims of disability.
Oh, no, that was the other thing.
It annoys the, everyone deserves humanity and respect and decency.
No, they actually don't.
Yeah, it's the cults of safetyism, as they say.
They do.
Why are they in these prisons?
Yeah.
Because they've violated someone else's human rights.
Yeah, basically.
Someone else's humanity and decency.
Exactly.
No, they don't do anything.
Now we're on the side of the criminals against the law-abiding public.
And Nigel's like, well, you know, we have to worry about those poor trans criminals.
He's like, I'm not sure we do have to worry about that much.
Absolute clown.
So obviously he's been torn up about this.
Understandably so.
He's like, I've never supported men and women's prisons.
What was that press conference then, Nigel?
We literally just heard you say it, Nigel.
Like, what are you doing?
Yeah, Rupert Lowe, you did yesterday.
Yeah, I yeah.
I won, you did, yeah.
Everyone, you did, yeah, you said it.
Everyone.
Everyone and everything.
It's just nonstop.
Like, yeah, we did though.
You literally said it.
Yeah.
Like, what are you actually doing?
Okay, I actually have an answer to this.
Clown.
But we'll, let's carry on a bit because this is not where it stops, is it?
No, no, it keeps going.
Right?
reform government will never permit men to be housed in women's prisons, says Zia Yusuf, backing up his commander.
Okay, but who's the white Who's defining what a man is in women's prisons?
Well, this is the point, isn't it?
But why didn't you just say that?
Why didn't you say it at the press conference then?
It's a complex issue, case by case, basically.
Of course, they deserve humanity indeed.
I've not worked in a prison, so you know.
Can't comment.
Think about the human rights of the prisoners.
What about safetyism?
I didn't think Mohammed Ziah Youssef would fall on the.
He's very progressive.
Well, of course he is.
Very progressive.
Yeah, of course he is.
Just duping everyone.
And it just continues, so Of course, Richard Tice.
Like, what?
Are you sure about this, Richard?
Reform do not support men and women's.
So what was yesterday then?
Or the day before now at the time of recording?
Like, if it's so easy for you to come out and say this, why didn't you do it at the time when all the media were there?
Oh, well, we know why.
Why are you defending on a issue that the right has won?
Yeah.
The Supreme Court is impressing.
Yeah, exactly.
The Supreme Court, and for all the Supreme Court that I don't care about and I'd like to get rid of it, at least, you know, the left views that as like the authority.
Kiyosh Dama was like, Well, the Supreme Court has come out and given a judgment, men are male, women are female, and that's the end of it.
And so even Kiyosh Dama, who is now apparently to the right of reform on the trans issue, has come out and gone like, Right.
And so Nigel Farage is like, Yeah, the right took that hill, and I kind of want to give it back to the left.
I need to reopen the trans issue so the left has got some more purchase on this one.
Because for some reason I can't just take the win.
Oh, so bizarre..
It's so bizarre.
just the weirdest situation and so uh The woman we just heard was Vanessa Frake, the former prison governor.
Was she trans that was next to him?
Yeah, she's not trans now, I don't think.
And she's going to counsel the party on criminal justice matters.
And she said she opposes the automatic exclusion of trans women from female prisons.
So Nigel Farage has just taken a leftist as an advisor.
I mean, she said that.
She clearly said that.
And he was up on stage nodding.
Yeah.
So he'd be like, it's not like he spoke ambiguously and then I could understand all of these tweets saying, oh, just to be clear.
Yeah.
But he wasn't speaking ambiguously.
He said, let's hand it off to this woman who went through the process, explained that actually on a case by case basis, maybe you should have guys and that's what he said himself.
He said it's a case by case basis.
She's saying, I wouldn't have joined Reform if I'd known they were trans exclusionary.
Oh, like, literally, if I'd known that Reform have the TERF position, which they're all claiming that they do, I wouldn't have joined.
So they've got a woke person on the question.
So he's come out as anti TERF.
That's why, yeah.
Okay, that's why JK Rowling has been kicking off.
JK Rowling is more right wing than than Nigel Farage.
On the question of are men men and are women women, right?
So for anyone watching, JK Rowling has tweeted, I genuinely cannot believe that Nigel Farage has now agreed with comments that some trans women prisoners, men, should remain in women's prisons.
This is absolutely absurd.
Men do not belong in women's prisons, why can't reform get this right?
What are they on?
And JK Rowling's like, this is misogyny.
Okay, JK.
But like, you know, yes, this is crazy.
Yeah, it's mental.
So not being, not actually satisfied with being to the left of the Tory party, he now wants to be Starmer.
And Starmer., he now wants to be to the left of the JK Rowling as well.
Yes, the every character in Harry Potter is gay.
JK Rowling.
Yes.
JK, I'm the world's best.
I don't think he's doing this right-wing populism correctly.
Dog, I just want one right-wing party.
That's all we need.
I guess even worse than that, because yeah, they did all those tweets.
So no, we don't support this, we don't support this.
Right, okay, so what's Anne Whitcomb saying?
I have the exact quote if you like.
Yeah.
She says, allowing a man who identifies as a woman to be housed among female prisoners poses too great a risk to their safety and therefore is a dereliction of duty on the part of the prison service.
For that reason, and in light of the recent ruling of the Supreme Court is reform policy to keep such prisoners in male prisons.
However, ah, however it's doing heavy lifting, I see.
There is a small number of trans people who have gone the whole hog.
They have undergone extensive surgery to remove their male genitalia and create a seemingly female body.
They have developed breasts and taken drugs to suppress male hormones and promote female ones.
They look and sound exactly like the women they believe they have become and may have lived that way for many years.
So the official reform policy appears to be quote trans women are women.
I mean that's literally it, isn't it?
That's literally where they're at okay in Anne Whitcomb's book.
Trans women are women.
That's how this works, according to Reform.
Actual mentor.
Even the Labour Party don't agree with this.
This is the same opinion policy as the Green Party.
This is the Green Party's position on trans.
It used to be a joke.
You made the joke at some conference once.
I'll probably end up voting Labour because they're the most right-wing party.
It's not a joke anymore.
literally are the most right-wing party in this country.
Well, I mean, to be fair, Ben Habib's advance party is probably a bit If they even have a candidate in your area.
But that's the point.
are they going to have a candidate in our area come 2029 because i definitely would vote for that over the trans party reform i think it's interesting isn't it like What is their purpose?
I mean, so this is obviously a, like, what are they doing?
This is obviously a major issue.
Before we move on though, there's actually a really easy rebuttal and response to this whole thing that doesn't concede that men who mutilate themselves through surgery are our women.
And that is, okay, well, look, if necessary, have a trans only prisoner.
Yeah, yeah.
Just be such a, there's such a small member of the population of the prisoner, right?
Okay, so it's fine.
So there's been a wing then, it's fine.
Exactly, there's only been a few hundred, get a particular wing so they're separ not, you know, exactly right.
There are actual answers to this that aren't, yeah, actually, JK Rowling's wrong.
They're actually trans women are women.
Yeah.
That's ridiculous.
It's funny too.
Nigel is that meme of the guy riding the bike, like, why can't I win?
Jams are a stick at it.
No, why do I do this to myself?
And he has lost about eight points in the polls as well.
Yeah.
Like they were at like 34, 35 percent.
Really bad.
And it's not just this, so there's obviously, you know, a big issue, right?
But I I looked through his Twitter to try to find like any commentary about the protests that have happened?
Yeah.
Nothing.
Literally none.
None that I could find.
Correct me.
I think there was any.
I think there was a new segment on it, but I didn't watch it.
Probably at the behest of the GB News though.
probably yeah you know his employer I mean he what an easy win what an Like, do you remember, and I thought this whilst I was driving over here, just didn't have time to chuck it in, but when did he go down to the farmers' protest?
And when did Zia join?
He did go down to the farmers' protest.
Was Zia already part of that?
Yeah, he was.
What a weird thing to...
I'll go downside with the farmers, but I won't side with the...
The women who are worried about foreign invaders.
The thing which propelled him in the media more and more.
We're down to something like just over fifty percent of people actually voting in elections.
If he went along to those protests, he would capture fifteen percent of the people who aren't voting, which would easily put him over the top.
It's so strange.
I mean, remember that when Boris came in, he had 52 percent approval rating.
And it was because Boris had lied to everyone, as you say, but like, we're going to get Brexit done.
This is going to be essentially, and Boris didn't say it in these terms, but everyone felt, oh, finally a right-wing government is going to take over and do something for the country.
That was the general sense that Boris was putting across.
Obviously, total betrayal, more stabs in the back.
But Farage could easily capture that energy because it would sound believable from him because he's been the right-wing populist for a long time.
People would believe it, even if it was a lie, which obviously it would be a lie.
It's all about ego for him.
So when I went through his Twitter, I mean, this was...
I just love Rupert Lowe's there terrorising under every single tweet.
The same journalist who accused me of stoking fear over crime also admits to wearing a phone strap because they're afraid of snatch theft.
Go figure.
It's like like can you tweet anything that's not about you Nigel like seriously can you tweet anything that's not about you again just the Tories reborn.
You know, they're so proud.
It's such a weird thing to be proud of accepting Tories.
I thought it was really weird when it started to happen, but then they just kept doing it and then they kept tweeting it out as if they're proud.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're taking more Tories.
We're taking more Tories.
Well, at what point are you then just the Tories?
At what point?
I can think of an explanation for what he's doing that makes sense.
if you adopt a different set of motives.
So what it could be that he's doing is he's every time his poll rising gets too high, he comes out with his woke nonsense because he wants to keep his polling in a range where after the election he doesn't outright win but if he merged with the Tories that would put them over the top which is proper reinvigorating the Tories type movement I mean that's what I hate that.
Yeah, I hate it too.
Yeah, but what it does make sense, right?
That explains everything he's doing.
That is his motive.
It's just so frustrating that he's got such an easy hand.
He's holding all the cards.
Yeah.
Assuming he actually wants to win.
Well, that's the thing.
It's a matter of will, isn't it?
He's got all of the aces and it's like, yeah, I'm not going to play them.
It's like, why?
I'm going to just hold or fold or whatever.
I'm going to actually do the opposite of the aces.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm literally going going to fold instead so someone else wins.
So what are you doing?
Yeah, trans women are women, actually, says Nigel Farage.
It's like, but again, like, becoming like a Tory retirement home.
Like, I just can't understand it.
Because if I was running reform and they were like, Oh, can we defect?
I'd be like, No, I don't trust turncoats.
No, you stand and die by your failed party, you losers.
Yes, I do.
I will choose someone good and I will raise them up.
Who deserves it?
Not just some losers.
I would, yeah, I mean, I would go a step further than that, knowing full well that the mood of the nation was of one of sheer resentment for the Tories, so much so that they were obliterated at the election.
time a Tory attempted to defect I'd host a press conference outrightly I would and I'd say no the public rejected you we reject you you are a bunch of losers that's what I would do every single time and you would rise so far in the polls but no you know the the structure is its function right the structure of reform is just full of Tories now the function is going to be Tories they are containment they are demonstrable containment.
There's no other way around it.
I think a lot of this, it might come down to what you're saying, but I think the motivation, I think Farage has always been kind of salty that the Tories didn't embrace the Brexit-y stuff back, you know, way back in the day, like 30 years ago.
And he basically had to get kicked out of the Tory Party and join UKIP, right?
To get anywhere done.
I think that this is him taking revenge on them, which, okay, great, Nigel, but the country is in a hell of a state, man.
Oh, weird.
You know, i like this thing but i mean just building on my idea that he's trying to put the tories over the top or engineer a situation to be fair that is what he's done on at least three previous elections yeah that's true he stood down for boris yeah and put it this way let's say you were you were watching somebody in a casino and they had the cards to win and they consistently didn't but ended up engineering it so somebody else on the table won i mean after a while you'd start to think yeah maybe they're working together yeah although i i think he's just trying to humble the tories.
I think he wants them to come to him, bend the knee and we'll beat them then.
Well, that's the thing.
Yeah, why would you not?
But the thing is that I'll destroy them, right?
I don't think he's trying to destroy them.
I think what he wants is recognition from them.
I hate this guy with an absolute passion.
and it's such easy wins you know being asked about Islam no we can't Just can't.
Can't deport people.
Just can't.
Can't do it.
Sorry.
No, I'm not interested, actually, you know.
And trans women, though.
Yeah, exactly.
I'll make a bold statement about that.
It's his policy that we can't do anything about Islam taking over in 2040.
Can't alienate them, in fact.
The only thing we can do is appeal to them so they don't kill us when they take over.
Yeah, appease them, basically.
And then don't want to do anything about halal.
And I think, you know, I don't know if anyone remembers in their sort of geology classes or anything like that, but erosion, you know, erosion doesn't start with a cliff just completely collapsing.
It's a slow, you know, slow sedimentary loss here, there and everywhere.
View our culture like a cliff face.
Yeah.
You know?
This slow erosion is what's going to completely collapse it.
So yeah, halal food is an important one, actually.
Ban it.
Oh, wow.
It's barbaric and disgusting.
Every standard we abandoned was important.
Yeah, yeah, exactly right.
Low sedimentary loss and that cliff face will collapse and it's just been allowed to.
I mean, if we only had two policies on this, one ban halal meat, two take away benefits from people who weren't born here.
Just those two things alone would turn the inflow into an outflow.
Yes.
It would save us huge amounts of money.
It turned the whole thing around.
And yet, here we are.
But at least we got some good memes out of this, right?
So I tag these on the end.
People are just like, what is happening?
So for anyone watching, it's the stone toss meme of the two groups pulling uh the the trans and reform and nigel farage on one side and kiestama's labour party and jk rowling are on the other and the the captain is what the actual f is the uk yeah great question no one can really understand exactly how it is that nigel farage is being touted as a trans ally by leftists and by various others trans women should probably be in women's prison say nigel farage kiestama's lgbt
without the t so just i just yep you how is this possible nigel mendo absolutely mendo Reform, sorry, restore.
Rupert Lowe had a pretty strong line on this though, didn't he?
Just like, no.
Yeah.
Women belong in women's prisons.
Men belonging in men's prisons.
And I tagged the thing on the end of the segment Ah, yeah, yeah.
This is the...
This is a Blue Sky Democrat who's planning for the future.
And they're like, you know what?
One of the first foreign policy crises that a Reconstructionist Democrat President will face in 2029 is what to do with a nuclear armed reform government and its concentration camps.
Now it's important to note, gu guys, watching, this isn't them believing that Reform will be an Islamic party and thus, obviously, you know, enslaving the native indigenous.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
They think Reform's far right.
They think he's quite literally the second coming of a mustachiode.
If there are concentration camps in Reform's Britain, it will be us.
It will be us.
Yeah, yeah.
100% it will be, yeah.
The only people he ever gets genuinely angry about are the online right.
Yeah, actual right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
No, you're absolutely right.
Anyway, yeah.
Bizarre.
Actually bizarre.
What a strange, strange situation.
So Nigel and Reform, they are quite literally.
Tories, renewed, rising from the ashes as a Phoenix.
I love this meme so much though.
It's just nice.
How have you found this clown?
Yeah.
Anyway, Tom says, Carl, this is why you need Pete North on the podcast.
He's an ass by God above, he's our ass.
That's Northern variant.
I quite like him, to be honest.
You know, he writes long, dull screeds about how things are going badly, but the thing is, he's generally correct.
And I tend to agree with him on most things on that.
Chris says, Bang on, Dan.
Resurrection of the Tories is the aim for reform.
Entirely possible.
Glee says, You know who else to the right of Farage on the trans issue?
That's right, Galloway's Workers' Party of Britain.
Oh, cute.
So Galloway's literal communists are to the right of Farage on the grounds.
Well, he's Islamist as well as me.
So yeah, I guess that's why.
Because he's all the Gazan lot.
Oh yeah, I mean, he's not really well, the thing is you say that, but do you remember when he was having to go, Humza Youssef?
And he did that bit to the camera where he, you lift up his glasses, like, look at my blue Celtic eyes, Humza.
Did he?
You're not a Celt, are you, Humza?
And it's just like, you're just George?
Where was based far right George Galloway?
That's him in a nutshell, though, isn't it?
That's his opportunistic.
Yeah, he was just politically opportunistic.
But Matt says pro-Israel and anti-Russia ideas because US boomers are still holding political office.
Boomers have not evolved beyond World War II and C War thinking.
That's totally, totally true.
Right, okay, let's move on to the horrors that await us.
So for this one, I'm going to have to give a proper trigger warning, and not ironically, like an actual proper trigger warning for this one.
So, I mean, to let you into what I'm going to do, for those on the Lotus Eaters website, I'll do this uncensored.
When if this goes out on YouTube, we're going to have to censor basically most of the images that I'm going to show here.
Just to be clear, nothing we're going to show is illegal.
No, it's all things that you find in the papers.
Yes.
All of the stuff I'm going to show is you can find in art galleries or homes of prominent Democrats.
And we know about it because it's been published in the press.
It's just that it's all vile, but it's proper wrong.
So therefore, if you're happy with just listening to descriptions of your YouTube, fine.
If not, go to lotusseaters.com and you can see the, you probably wouldn't want to anyway, but you can see the underlying stuff.
Just a thing, it's all done by implication.
That's the issue.
Yes.
Well, and that's very much what I'm going with this, the implication.
It does get quite dark.
Do go and buy Lotus Eaters.
One, because it's very, very good.
And two, because we need the money.
And with that, I shall.
begin.
So basically, it kind of came to my attention when watching a couple of interviews of Marty Made, because Marty Made has got on this Epstein stuff.
Yeah, he's been, his interview with Tucker was brilliant.
Yes.
I wasn't that impressed with his Churchill revisionism one.
Not that I'm a huge fan of Churchill.
I just didn't, I just know there were certain stories I told that I was like, well, I'd have a different interpretation of that.
But I also did a lot of research into the Epstein stuff.
Because what it did is it made me realise that I'd kind of misunderstood the Epstein situation.
Because I kind of thought, the back of my mind, okay, what it is is he invites rich, influential, important people to his home and then he says oh isn't it hot or something maybe you like a massage and they're like oh yeah fair enough i've done a massage and then some girl comes out who's actually 15 but she looks like she could be maybe 18 and then they get taken to a room and then he jumps out afterwards and says aha she was actually 15 right i i thought i basically thought for the last few years that was what was going on you've been very generous yeah it is so
much worse than that and and and i'm not going to talk about all of it i'm just going to talk about one aspect of the so much worse when i started looking at it it's like oh it's so much worse than the so much worse right so there's the um the trucker carlson entity there's actually a much better interview with my friend Jay Burden who interviewed Marty Made.
The problem with Tucker, the thing with Marty Made, right, is when he starts speaking, is he does those pauses thing where he breaks for emphasis.
And if you pause on Tucker's show, he immediately jumps in.
Whereas Jay kind of knows that and he kind of let him flow.
So actually, this is a much better interview for my money, for this whole story.
So yeah, so let's get into Epstein's art.
So basically, I'm just going to take you through the weirdness.
And we start with the weirdness of Epstein, but then we're swiftftly pivoting into the weirdness of Democrats.
So, I mean, this is this is from his office, you know, a girl lying on, you know, a skinned lion.
A skinned lion.
It's like, okay, fine.
Bit odd.
We've got one of his mansions going on there.
This one is interesting.
Bill Clinton in Monica Wielinski's dress.
I'm not going to linger on this one for long, apart from to say, note the red shoes.
That will come up again later.
This was in his Manhattan apartment, wasn't it?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yes.
So note the red shoes.
Very interesting, that.
One of it, there he is.
There's his office behind his desk.
He's got some gypsy queen with a norks out.
Yeah, so what is, yeah, like that's some sort of a cult thing, right?
Like I'm putting in mind of like the Marina Abramovich.
I don't know what's going on.
I just know.
Yeah, I have no idea.
I just know it's weird, right?
Obviously then you've got to have your, where is it?
You've got to have your stuffed tiger in front of your desk.
apparently also i couldn't find a photo of it but next to the desk on that side was a was a very realistic stuffed poodle sat there like it was you know about to come look at your handles on me actually no it's just stuffed um so so oddness that's normal yes um yes very various various bits from him there um here we go, I pulled out.
Oh, that's another one, of course.
Another one of his.
Very odd.
Two towers falling down.
Yeah, very odd.
And yes, Bush.
I don't know what's going on there.
Some more details have emerged very recently.
I think this only came out today.
So this is a look inside Jeffrey Epstein's Manhattan Lair.
So, yeah, we've got a bride being lowered on a rope into what?
We couldn't say.
Photos of Epstein with various powerful people.
Oh, no, so go back to the people.
So there's the Pope.
Oh, yeah, the Pope was in there, yes.
Pope, McJagger, Fidel Castro, Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, Richard Branson.
Good on.
Bannon.
Yes.
Bill Gates.
Steve Bannon.
Oh, yeah.
There's Bill.
Don't actually know who that is.
Branson up there.
Yeah.
Don't know again who that is.
Trump, Melania.
Okay, yeah.
They're in there.
Ham, there's a photo of Little St James there.
Is there?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It's a photo of his island.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, hang on.
There's a signed bill in there.
Actually, I don't want to focus on this too much, but yeah, William Gates has signed.
Yeah, and then there's Bill Gates in the background there.
Like, this is all really interesting because it speaks to a remarkable level of vanity.
Isn't that MBS as well, Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia?
Might be, yeah.
It could be, well, but I think that's him.
Yeah, anyway, so, yeah, various weirdness of the Jeffrey Epstein situation.
I quite liked, oh no, hang on.
You missed one of my links, Samson.
You missed one of my links.
All right, never mind.
No, I wanted to make the point that I am an art lover myself.
Okay.
I am an art, so I don't want anyone to criticize me for not having any taste in art.
Okay.
Because I genuinely do.
I've got an extensive art collection myself.
It isn't like the Podesta art, is it?
No, and, you know, so, you know, this is one of the things from my collection.
I do have a theme.
Kind of looks like Tristan Tate.
Yes.
Somebody in the comments will get the reference to that one.
So, you know, this is the kind of picture which is not only wholesome, but you can lose yourself in it for hours.
So, yeah.
Thing of beauty.
Absolutely.
Yes.
I mean, that is real art, that is.
so keep them employed so there we go so I don't want anyone to make the argument that I don't know good art when I see it when we go through this stuff I did have something a letter from somebody who used to attend his house and and I mean this is one of his neighbours and he kind of made the point that it looks like Castle Dracula in there and it would always he would always have like the you know like the link No, it's missing that particular link.
But, you know, how Dracul always have like three vampire brides floating around him.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so that was mentioned by one of them.
them what oh yes washington life now let's have a look at washington life so right now i'm going to pivot to where it gets really dark because so far it's just been a bit weird and a bit occulty yeah a bit self-serving.
Right.
This was published in Washington Life and is about the senior Democrat.
Can't seem to scroll down on that.
This is about the senior Democrat Tony Podesta.
And this was just published.
Now, just a quick summary.
He's an American lobbyist.
Yes.
The Podesta group has raised millions and millions of dollars for the Democrats.
Oh, I mean, there's two Podestas.
There's Tony Podesta, who is one of the most well connected, high profile lobbyists.
And then John Podesta, who was formerly the White House Chief of Staff.
Well, he was, yes, he was Clinton the First's Chief of Staff.
He was Hillary Clinton's campaign manager, and he was also a senior adviser to the Obamas as well.
So, I mean, he's well connected.
Both of these, these are both as high up as you get in the Democrat world.
Oh, yeah, what I'll just do is, you see in the corner there that picture?
That's kind of where I'm going to go with this.
This is where you're going to have to start censoring stuff.
Have you seen this?
No.
It's pretty awful.
Here's Tony Podesta, the creep in question that we're going to go through.
Right, so let's have a look at, see if we can blow this up.
Right, what does he put on his wall and is so proud of that he's quite happy to have shown in Washington Live?
Can we go back a second?
Because that arch of hysteria piece that he's in front of there.
Yes.
So headless body, like, what, I mean, what are we, what are we looking at here?
It's very hell razor-esque, to be honest, isn't it?
pretty freaky I'd be like okay that's Good lord.
It gets quite considerably worse than that.
So, right.
Let's focus on this one over here.
That, I think, is called Synchronized Swimming.
I think if the link was included, I did a bit of a zoom in.
Oh, no, that link's missing as well.
Oh, here we go.
Right.
Is it leaves?
Yeah, leaves around them and they look...
And they've all got weird dead eyes.
Some of them not wearing pants.
Yeah, some of them are just in their underwear.
Yes.
But they've all got like weird dead eyes and like, you know, big black eyes.
They're dead.
Yeah.
They're clearly dead, yeah.
And I'm definitely going to come back to your point about being a swimming pool.
Because that is where I kind of, you know, really, yeah, realized something was very, very wrong.
They are Tony Podesta's favourite artist.
His favourite artist is a woman who is...
I don't want to attack her because...
And God knows what trauma they're working through.
That's fair.
So I'm not, I can't criticize her.
Why does he want it?
Yeah, you can criticize someone enjoying the art to a high degree, yeah.
And we got a very telling piece here from the artist.
Let's listen to this.
Do you want to play that, Samson?
Pictures, and so there is a story behind the story.
So there is a lot of reason why I choose these two elements to be the new part of my painting.
And of course, I stay on a track with fear, human fear, and I think I always analyse human fear, not from the point of view of the victim, but always from the point of view of the executor.
That's interesting.
She's focusing on the point of view of the executor, and here's images of dead girls.
You can see very dead eyes lying in...
The point of view of the Arctic.
Yeah, and yet people are enjoying it and putting it on their walls.
Yeah, that's quite sick, isn't it?
Yeah, so we've got various dead girls here with bugs crawling over them.
I think there's a snake.
You can't see it that well from there, slithering over them, all that kind of stuff.
Let's do a slightly deeper dive into into some of her art so so this is again um something where people have assumed i can't remember what this is this is her art this is her art that that single sentence contextualizes this in such a horrible way yes and i still haven't got to the truly awful bit right Okay, so look at this image.
What's going on here?
So if you're watching on YouTube and we've had to blur this out, which you almost certainly will, it's little girls in their underwear lined up in what might be the bottom of a swimming pool.
It looks like an execution is about to take place.
how red their feet are as well.
I know.
Yeah.
They've had to march and they've had their feet beaten or something like their hands and their...
Yeah.
So here's the horrible bit.
That's not a swimming pool.
You notice the vents in the ground, the tubing and stuff?
It's a shower, right?
I'll tell you what it is.
It's an abattoir.
Jesus Christ.
Oh, okay.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, right, because if you go back, you can see the pipes and hoses and stuff.
In fact, we scroll down on here.
Jesus Christ.
Meat hooks.
Meat hooks on the avatar wall.
The dead woman holding a dead baby with her ankles broken.
that is is the kind of art she produces.
Now again, I'm not going to beat up on the artists because she went through a civil war in her pre-teen years.
So whatever she's doing to get this out of her system.
But people who look at this and think, yes, I want that on my wall.
I want that on my wall.
And not only that, I'm going to have it in a prominent position in my house.
I'm going to invite people around all the time because I'm a senior Democrat organizer.
I noticed there were chairs around so you can sit and enjoy it.
In fact, let's just go back to that.
Yeah.
So it's set up so they can just sit there and enjoy it.
That's so bizarre.
And not only am I going to do all of this and invite other senior Democrats around to my home, which he did all the time, apparently.
When Washington Life want to do a puff piece on me, I'm going to say to make sure you get a shot of this.
Yeah, please come and look at this.
Look how sadistic I am.
But yeah, these images of an abattoir, I couldn't get one of the, and you get these floor grates, because you don't get those in swimming pool.
You don't get just a great bottom of a swimming pool.
You do get them in abattoirs, and that's what's going on in these images.
Let's go to the artist's website, and you can see it a bit more clearly now.
You know, it's, I mean, that, I mean, showers.
I mean, it's strong sort of executionist.
I mean, it's all about death and suffering and horrible things being done to people.
Now, again, I don't want to psychoanalyze, but I think it's the product for somebody who's come through a horrific civil war and God knows what happened.
Again, people being marched up in an abattoir there.
Well, yeah, I mean, the people in white have skulls for their faces.
They are death, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it's not hard to see that there is some sort of trauma and there's clearly something going on here.
But she's got lots of images like that.
And some of them focus on little girls dead.
or in an abattoir.
And there you go, that's the one, synchronized swimming one.
Again, you can see now that's an abattoir, not a swimming pool.
Living in oblivion as well..
Presumably that's the subset of Little Girls Paradise Lost in the bottom right there.
Yes, again.
The Little Girls, again, I'm just going to say at this point, note the red shoes.
Right.
something going on with these red shoes.
And it's loads of stuff.
Yeah, so it's dark stuff.
But yeah, I've mentioned now a couple of times the red shoes.
Red shoes crop up in this a lot and I don't know the answer to what's going on here, but this is one of Tony Podesta's party.
Where they're all wearing red shoes.
Where they're all wearing red shoes.
I don't know why they're wearing red shoes.
All I know is that his favourite artist is somebody who shows little girls in abattoirs and the little girls in abattoirs are wearing red shoes.
I know that Jeffrey Epstein photo of Bill Clinton, he was wearing very prominent red shoes.
And when he has a house party, everybody has to turn up in red shoes.
Is it going to be connected to The Wizard of Oz in some way?
Within the red shoes and that?
That's a very charitable interpretation.
I'm not saying it's not weird and perverse, obviously it is, but like, is there going to be a weird and perverse interpretation of Dorothy lost in Kansas or something?
So all I can tell you is I don't know what's going on.
If I found out, I'm pretty sure I'd be even more horrified than I already am.
Did he commission some of this artwork or did he just see it?
I don't know.
Probably not, but I don't know.
I don't know.
Someone that high up, that wealthy, could easily commission pieces of artwork.
Yeah.
And one of the interesting things that came out of the Tucker interview is that apparently Tucker was his neighbor or something for years.
Really?
Yeah, and he said he never went around round to his home, but this guy was entertaining constantly.
Almost every night he would have a whole bunch of Democrats round.
So for years, everybody who's something in Democrat politics went through his house and went to those seats, or at least saw those images of girls in abattoirs and just thought, yeah, fair enough.
She's normal.
Little girls in an abattoir, yeah, why not?
What's the issue there?
And all the little girls have got...
From an artist who says that what she's going for is from the perspective of the executioner.
And again, I can't claim to fully understand what is going on here.
I think this is only scratching the surface of how dark this stuff goes.
That is mad.
Yeah.
Before we move on, very quickly, Samson, can you do me a favour and look up the Madeleine McCann's suspect profiles pictures?
Okay.
Because like, you know what Tony Podesta looks like, right?
Oh, really?
Yeah, if, um, where is it?
Oh, there's been some new, yeah, there was, there was, um, there was one where it looks like John and Tony Podesta.
But I guess that's just not coming up on Google.
This is the old one, you're going to do like 2025 or something.
He went to Spain, though.
I don't know.
I'm not saying that he did.
I'm just saying they look a lot like the photo fits.
There we go.
Right there in the middle.
just that image just click on the image samson yeah right that doesn't look at all you know that doesn't look a million miles away from john and tony buster it's actually kind of weird that is kind of weird yeah it does it looks like them 20 years ago whatever it was right and it's like it looks really like them as well and it's like okay that's weird but sorry anyway okay right right okay um so we're gonna have to but we're gonna need a palette cleanser yeah we're gonna need to bring us back because because that was quite dark we're gonna need to bring us back so
i'm gonna share something else my own art collection okay um there we go that is flashman exactly you got the reference of this one that's good that's flashman i decided but it wasn't the image before wasn't quite doing it for me so i had the artist make some modifications to it i even put the wife on the um indian harlot um she's not wild about it i must say i bet she's but i but she's always complaining that every everything in my house is just images of me and i thought well okay i'll put i'll put you in and
she didn't bloody like that either did she anyway um can't win me i've also well actually this one is a bit unusual for me i've also got an original um uh pharaoh oh yeah um which which is a lovely i must get it framed i haven't got around to it yet um it doesn't deserve blue tack um i will point out alexander adams he does um he's very active in right-wing art and he's doing um you know gallery shows and stuff like that um he's promoting basically everybody in right-wing art so
he's worth following if you want to get into that um yeah there you go he mentions pharaoh i've got one of his
his um and actually um one one of for me one of the standouts in the right-wing art sphere is this chap fender villas he does he does statues i want to get a fender villas before long but we have a quick look as a palette cleanse on some of his art um i mean it already looks a lot more heroic oh yeah yeah we go that's one of his yeah so he's basically men battling against adversaries so so he's an image of huge adversary coming his way and he's just powering through it.
Prometheus, yeah.
Yes.
Got to get the Bowden in there, haven't we?
I'm sure we get some other pieces from him fairly.
There we go.
It looks almost, I don't know, sort of Soviet-esque.
But the point I'm making is this is what right-wing art looks like.
Yeah, it's heroic.
It's a celebration of masculinity.
It's a celebration of masculinity against adversity.
It is not...
It's aspirational.
It's not...
Execution of children.
Against powerless people.
And I think there was a pretty fundamental difference, though.
But you're right.
Yeah, right.
We've got some of these comedy things.
It's harrowing.
The Engage View says, these pieces remind me of when I read that left-wing uprisings are motivated by fear, right-wing uprisings are motivated by disgust.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm in the mood for an uprising after watching all that.
Jesus Christ.
Demons walk among us wearing human skin suits.
When we win, we must create a system that keeps any of these creatures far away from any power.
Well, I mean, I personally, I mean, obviously I think that the pedestrians and the rest of them, there's just something really vile going on, you know, conspiracy theories aside.
All right, let's go to the video comments.
Like I said, enjoy nature until society hits you.
Oh yeah, the little candle.
So this is a problem.
There's a can in the middle.
So this is an issue that a lot of people in Britain are encountering.
Do you remember in school, you were taught in school, not to litter in the countryside, but also to like close the gate whenever you walk through a gate to make sure the farm's animals didn't get out or whatever, because obviously, you know, you can walk anywhere.
Which is actually kind of unusual.
All of that's just gone.
The country of private property.
But you can walk anywhere.
You just have to be respectful to the land that you're on.
And what I think that has done is inculcated a sense of possession of the land, right?
Because I've seen a lot of people complaining about all foreigners, you know, Indians, Pakistanis, whoever, who have moved here and then they're going to these sort of areas of the country that are like places where you go on holiday and just making a complete mess of it.
And not taking care of it.
And it was Paul Joseph Watson, I think, who was like, why is this bothering me more than them being in the cities?
It's like, because this was ours.
Yeah, it used to be a location you could have some respite from.
Exactly.
Go and enjoy it.
And also, I think, you know, the countryside in the UK, in England, it's something which really resonates and speaks to your soul.
Yes.
And so when you see people, respectively, desecrating it, it irks you beyond belief.
Sure, have the cities.
I don't like the cities, but, you know, yeah.
Not the countryside.
Like of all things, not the countryside.
I think you're right.
There is something genuinely...
But it's not just that.
There's a sense of possession over it.
Like everyone basically feels like the countryside is an extension of their own back garden.
Like you just wander around, yeah, I'm just going to go wondering why because I know there are no bears or wolves out there.
Yeah.
And the only thing I'm ever going to meet is another Englishman on the path and I'll say, good morning, how's it going?
lovely dog.
And then you just walk on and it will just be like you're walking your own back garden.
Yeah.
And so to have a bunch of foreigners suddenly intruding in our space and messing it up and making an absolute and then, you know, who knows what else.
Like it's honestly one of those things that it bothers me far more deeply than I thought it would.
Yeah.
I really hate it.
Yeah.
Get out of our shires.
I just view it as a place where they don't belong there.
They don't belong there.
Yeah, but that's it.
They don't belong there.
And that's true because we were inculcated in school as we were growing up., this is a collective property of everyone.
You have to take care of it.
And the next guy who comes along, he'll take care of it too.
And so everyone will have a lovely experience in the countryside on a lovely warm summer's day.
Where the birds are singing, the wind's blowing through the trees, and, you know, everything's really pleasant.
And the thing is, this is represented, like this, this is this kind of quintessential picture that I'm painting is really fully present in the Robin Hood Tales.
Yeah.
This is where Robin Hood escapes to, to escape from the tyranny.
He goes to the Greenwood.
And it's always set in the summer, and it's always they're just wandering merrily, careless through the woods in England.
And it's exactly, they describe it exactly the way it is now and then so for a bunch of like Indians and Pakistanis and whoever else to come along and just start throwing rubbish everyone and making a complete mess with it.
It's like this is our heritage.
You know, get out.
You do not belong here.
It's genuinely how I feel about it.
Sorry, just can I quickly sidetrack to all the people in the chat asking me if my wife is Indian.
No, but in the flashman novels, on his campaign, on his way out of India, he buys an Indian haul and takes him with him on the campaign.
And because she's So I just tried I portrayed my wife as that.
And because she's in the image, I thought I saw an opportunity to win brownie points.
I don't think that's Yes.
No, it didn't work.
Yeah.
That's the story as to why she ended up in the image.
It's a why I tried.
The question is why you thought that was going to win you brownie points?
Because she was complaining that she's never in any of the pictures.
So I have depicted you as an Indian whore.
Well, that would.
He tried.
God loves to try her.
Yeah, but your wife.
Yeah, but that's what I had to work with on that particular image.
So, you know, I thought I made the effort, you know.
Just a quick subchat has come in.
I thought here's Tony Bedessa, yeah, Tony Bedessa's brother or someone else essentially colored stick figures of small figures being seemingly abused.
Also, don't forget them hiring the spirit cooking lady to perform at parties.
Yeah, there's a whole really degenerate and frankly evil culture in that sort of sphere.
Like, I mean, I don't know whether the younger ones also do this, but this is definitely that sort of age bracket, the sort of, you know, boomer types who've just been involved in something truly gross.
Anyway, let's move on to the next one.
Everything is just fine.
These fish fingers are a steal.
Prices up a smith.
Just a hundred quid a meal.
Oh, yeah!
You pay off my law degree The tips from each delivery Excuse me, sir, I have your tandoori Everything is just fine Everything is fine I love these adverts.
Well, that's a Coinbase advert pointing out that British shit.
I mean, they're 100% right.
I mean, if anything, you know, if only they were singing and dancing in the streets.
I've got the delivery drivers wrong, though.
Yeah.
Yeah, they did.
Some of them were white.
Yeah, I saw that too.
Yeah.
Some of them might have been in the country legally.
You've got Kemi, whatever, Badenock.
commenting on this recently she's trying to up her pr game and it's just embarrassing it's absolutely embarrassing oh this is offensive and blah blah blah unfortunately it led to the ruin love it's accurate that's the problem.
Like, it accurately represents our bloody country.
I love her, the idea that she's going, oh, I'm going to go to a PR game.
It's like, yeah, but you're kind of unlikable.
Like, she called herself an Essex girl.
I'm not Nigerian.
But you are, though.
Yeah.
You are.
I actually made a video pointing out that she, I mean, she married a Scotsman, so she's got some I get it.
Like, she joined the tribe like I understand.
She's just she's she's desperation and it's apparent because it's a quick heel turn.
Yeah.
So I quite like the way that they do it in in thirteen warriors because basically this Arab turns up and they're a bit suspicious of him, but they don't kill him and he proves himself and he kind of joins the tribe and and i kind of like that model and for women the model would be like you say if you marry into it i can accept what used to be what it was yes but if you get accepted into the tribe you don't end up leading the tribe there are some things that you just don't do yeah Yeah, no, that's exactly right.
You shouldn't be trying to lead the tribe either.
It's inappropriate.
Anyway, Mr. Heech's stolen car says...
I did actually.
I did a segment.
Oh, your segment here about it in the crime rates of Lenin.
I didn't see that.
It's worth noting that the Democrats through FEMA deliberately didn't give aid to Trump supporters after Hurricane Helene.
And now Trump plans to do something similar.
Yeah, but the problem is, like...
But that just makes you...
It's evil, right?
And they were evil for doing it.
And at least they...
There's a kind of, like...
At least they were doing it for what they think is the right cause for America, right?
Now, obviously, the Democrats have got an evil agenda for America, but at least they're still like, yeah, we're going to...
You know, this is the true America we're going to do.
And, you know, we'll hurt our opponents.
Trump's doing it for a foreign power, man.
So it's, like, weird and really, really inappropriate.
Also, you should be seen as, like, the father to all.
Exactly.
No matter what the political leanings are.
That's the point.
That's what it should be.
Yeah.
So the, like...
It's just absolutely atrocious.
I don't know why he's doing any of this.
Baron Von Warhawk says, Dan, to answer your question about why Israel can get away with so much stuff, just remember who makes up 20-25% of the billionaire population, who owns the four biggest media groups, who owns the world's biggest banks.
And after that, start thinking about Epstein's connections to a certain intelligence...
Personals go straight to the central banks.
Yeah.
And it's donors, man.
I think APAC is a lot of it.
The IDF would never do such a thing, right?
Yeah, it's so weird that Trump Trump feels such loyalty to Israel.
I just don't understand it.
This is not necessary.
And he should be calling the shots.
And I'm surprised his ego isn't too big for him to not be calling the shots.
If it was one guy, I could accept it, but it's every president.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
George says both populist leaders turned out to be containment.
Trump was just less obvious about it.
My only hope is that the Patriots will have to grow charismatic figures and act on principle.
The Epstein backlash is a perfect example.
Yeah, the problem is the fact that we're living in a democracy.
So clip that as you like.
The issue is you know.
I mean, but it is literally that though.
You don't Yeah, I mean, that is in context.
I mean, it's Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Correct.
You need the charismatic populist figure to win an election, right?
That's just the way democracy works.
Charismatic popular figures win elections, which is why Kemi Badenock will never win an election.
She is not charismatic, she is not popular.
She's just not.
She's not likable.
She's a charisma vacuum.
Exactly.
Boris is an arch traitor, but I think that he's the genuine threat to Farage.
I mean, Starman managed to win an election.
Yeah, but that's only because Farage came in and he swept the Tories.
But if Boris comes back, Farage could be in serious trouble because Boris will just lie and he'll just do it in a jovial way that people like.
like you know it's it's all about likability i'm afraid um james says uh if the idf keep gunning down groups of civilians waiting for food where is the footage apparently it keeps happening but i've never seen the footage um well i'm just reporting what they've said i haven't gone looking for the footage um but i mean even if it's just allegations you think that needs to be dealt with right you think these i mean you know human just on an optics level surely like human rights watch aren't you know they're they're a they're a recognized institution right and so if
They're making the allegation that you're gunning down people.
down people like there should be a bit more i mean if it was the garzans making those claims i'm just ignoring if it was hamas saying but it's formerly IDF people are saying this stuff.
Yeah.
So it's like, oh, yeah.
Jerome says starvation in Palestine is fake.
They showed two literal skeletons in a hospital, but the people around them were all well-fed.
Our new stations are broadcasting Hamas propaganda.
Well, I don't know.
You know, this is another reason why I didn't.
That may also be true.
Yeah, it might be true.
That's the thing.
I'm not saying there's no validity to the Israeli narrative on these things either.
It certainly doesn't refute the fact that Trump is...
Exactly.
None of those things.
And that Israel is massively overreaching us.
Yeah.
You know, it's crazy how far they're going.
Roman Observer says, you can talk about stuff that affects the whole society, like crime, prisons, justice, even if you're not an expert.
It's like, really, well, thank you.
I'm glad that I'm allowed, because they would have it so I can't.
And the thing is, the thing about the appeal to expertise, the only reason they do it is just to shut you up.
Just so they don't have to have the conversation with you.
You don't have to accept it, actually.
Arizona Desert Rat says biological men do not belong in a prison cell with a woman.
This is hardly controversial.
There have been many women in several countries who are raped by men claiming to be trans.
Yeah, Karen White is an example of this that we use that happened a few years ago.
But it was literally a man in a wig, and he was like., I'm a chick, put me with the chicks.
And then he kept molesting the women.
Who could have been surprised?
Jimbo says, I've never liked Farage, but his wet finger in the air is sickening.
I agree, but it's actually really weird though that he's put his finger up and gone, yeah, so everyone's pro trans now, right?
It's like, no, Nigel.
No, that was five years ago.
Yes.
Like, everyone's now anti-trans.
It's so behind the curve.
Is he just really behind on his Twitter feed?
He's just, I don't know.
I just have no idea.
Really strange.
The whole thing is very bizarre.
He carries on, the greatest crime in British history is happening in front of our eyes and the uniparty desperately don't want you to know what they've done.
I think this is way worse than people imagine and Nigel doesn't seem interested in why it's happening, just managing the aftermath, which is true.
Nigel Farage, like, he's always leading from the rear, which is incredible, obviously, for a populist leader.
But just again, why this issue, Nige?
Well, again, you know, that whole where that originated from, the the soundbite of men and women's prisons, it was all to do with Britain's lawless.
It's like, yeah, okay, so why though, Nigel?
Why is it lawless?
What have we done to our culture?
What have you, what's been imported?
I don't think trans prisoners are actually number one on that list.
Yeah, exactly.
You saw what I mean?
You know, of all that.
It just goes to show just how disconnected from the main issues he actually is.
It's like, well, are we talking about this instead?
It's like, no, Nigel, you need to deport millions of people.
I was going to say millions.
I'll cover this at some point.
Yesterday, I mean, I guess we'll probably cover it on the podcast tomorrow.
Yesterday, there was a UGOV poll that came out that showed 45% of people just want hard remigration.
Stop all incoming and just send millions home.
And that was 45% on most extreme things.
The thing is, if you're pro-immigration, you should cut your losses now and be like, okay, well, look, we're not going to remigrate people who are, you know, in here of 10.
Just try and see if 15 pick a number.
Yeah.
But we are going to do the rest of it.
The Boris Pack.
And that would make it all go away.
Yeah.
But instead, they're going to push it to the point where it is actually people who have been here and got married into the culture and all the rest of it.
It's like, and I personally, I think that's going too far.
I do.
Yeah.
But I'm not in the Steve Laws position.
Yeah.
But they're going to push us to that point by being so in-strangement on every rapist mistake.
Yeah.
And you have to pay for it.
Yeah.
I mean, like last year, like Kirstalmer, like last year, the numbers came out and there was over a million people they let into the country.
So it's mental.
Well, you do.
It's actually mental.
It's a city the size of Birmingham is being let into the country.
Everyone is.
And no city's the size of Birm Birmingham being made.
And this is a year on year out.
And then people are like, Leftists are like, This is fine.
Millionaires are making money on houses.
You're like, How are they doing that?
But at this point now, it's not the Boris wave, it's the new normal.
Yeah, it's a million a year.
It's just what they do, a million a year.
It's disgusting.
It's actually disgusting.
Absolutely insane.
Henry says, Why do prisoners deserve to be treated with dignity by default?
Yeah.
Joys of human rights for murderers and rapists, forcing the country to bend over and take it again.
Well, this is why I approve of Bekele just being like, No frog march them, you know, in their underwear into prison.
You know?
And I think he's being too lenient, frankly.
I mean, if the British public had their way, we'd have the death penalty back.
Because the majority of the British public want the death penalty.
100%.
They always have.
And then all these stupid governors are like, oh, but it's humanity and decency.
No, shut up.
Shut up.
Go join Rupert Lowe's Restore Britain.
That's one of their policies.
Restore the death penalty.
It's great.
What I like about that as well, it's like, you know, it's just quiet.
And then Rupert Lowe's like, we need to kill some people.
It's like, yeah, no, that's right.
Axel Rudip, come on, or is that?
is still alive um metal dave says oh dear that reform discussion on the trans prison issue is the most toe curlingly awkward evasive answer ever it reminds me of when they interviewed Ketanji Brown Jackson to the Supreme Court when asked, what is a woman?
She's like, I'm not an expert or knowledgeable enough to answer, which is literally Farage's answer.
It's the Supreme Court diversity hire for the Democrats.
He's on exactly the same page.
Funny enough, it turns out that Kenji Sugar Brown Jackson was not knowledgeable enough on literally everything, including the constitution.
Yes.
So she wasn't a biologist.
I guess she wasn't a lawyer either.
No.
Anne says, great art, Dan.
Is that picture also available painted on black velvet?
That's how I picture many paintings in your country estate.
I like this idea.
I'm going to make a note.
All right, Sophie says, there is a Hans Christian Anderson fairy tale just called The Red Shoes.
It ends with an angel chubbing the feet off a little girl with his sword.
So I don't know, man.
But that's the thing, right?
It feels like it's got some connection with a dark fairy tale, right?
Like the Wizard of the East.
I mean, there's definitely something.
Michael says, on the Epstein photos, this could be why Trump isn't releasing the files.
It won't just destroy his enemies, but his friends as well, which might explain why the Biden admin didn't release it to ensure Trump's defeat.
I'm completely convinced of that.
I don't think there's going to be anything that compromising on Trump in there, because I think that Trump and Epstein's relationship was public enough.
Everyone knew they were friends.
So if there was anything that directly implicated him, probably would have been out by now.
But I think it's a bunch of people who he's friends with.
So I think the most likely thing is, yes, it implicates people on both sides, but overwhelmingly Democrats.
And before he came into office, he thought...
But he underestimated the sheer extent to which a national ally had their fingerprints all over it.
Think of the number of people Epstein was pictured with on those photos.
Yeah.
You think, okay, well, this could be everyone.
Like, you know, you could be, and not just when we're just like, oh, Republicans and Democrats.
I mean, it could be national governments around the world that are implicated in this.
Yeah.
I'd say it is.
So, I mean, I'm not saying this of him because I don't think this is the case.
But if somebody off the power level of like MBS or something who was in those photos was in there, it's like, are you going to really blow up your relationship with another country over this?
I think that's what happened.
Yeah, I hate to say, but I think that's probably true.
Fuzzy Toaster says, art is one of those things that is supposed to commute a feeling or an idea.
It can transcend beauty, but it can also plum the depths of our depravities.
So whilst I'm not going to say it's not art, I will definitely say that the people identify with or made this art should be watched closely.
I thought your take on it was actually surprisingly nuanced, because I think you are right.
Once I was in university, I dated a girl who had trauma, and she expressed it through her arts.
And so, you know, I never liked her arts.
I was just like, okay, that's not something, you know, I'm, I'm, I luckily grew up in a very normal household.
So I, I could never relate to it.
And so when you brought that up, I was like, oh, you know, that's a good point.
And the, the, the fact that, like, she's like, yes, from the position of the executioner, it's like, okay, that's powerful.
The artist isn't one enjoying it.
The artist is going through a process.
Especially if it's a traumatic process.
Tony Podesta's like, hey, look at this.
Yeah, he's the one going, Love it.
Million, million dollars.
I'll buy that, no worries.
Park a whole bunch of chairs around it.
I'll stick it on the wall.
I'll turn the chair around.
Yeah, I'll watch that all day, every day.
Like, yeah, that's weird, man.
That's psychotics.
That's why I showed my own art, just so the compromise of what healthy art is.
Healthy art is pictures of myself.
And what depravity is.
Because it's so clear when you get that contrast.
Derek says, No Dan, you can blame the artist.
I understand someone experiencing trauma, but making art is a choice.
furthermore she's painting these on commission and these can be publicly displayed i don't know if these are commissioned yeah we don't yeah don't know they might be i don't know but um but even if if it was some random guy painting these i think i'd agree with you derek but when it's yeah when it's somebody who was a little girl themselves in a war zone and it got really bad yeah I'm a bit, I've got a bit more.
Yeah, I can be more sympathetic.
There's a nuance there, isn't there?
Omar says, any shibleth that requires child death and suffering indicates the kind of group that should be eradicated with extreme righteous prejudice.
Well, yeah, indeed.
And I watched Tucker's talk about it, like that you brought up at the beginning and he he mentioned how he was aware that this was all there but never really thought about it and felt gross uh now he was actually contemplating it it's like yeah i mean i i mean i'm happy to believe that he felt gross about it but it's like how has this been so normalized yeah in the very upper echelons of american government and politics for such a long time like you know this is utterly vile anyway
um Michael says, yeah, art is understandable from the artist who likely saw such horrors, but the people proudly displaying it, questionable at best.
Michael says Nate in the time must be a sign of the apocalypse.
You do look great today.
It's a three-piece suit.
Come on now.
You're looking very, very good.
I'm the best dressed one here.
I'm not gonna lie.
And dragon.
Yeah, Jimbo says Islander 4 has just arrived.
That is some good turnaround.
Oh, that's quick.
Yeah, that's a very good turnaround.
Happy.
A week or so?
We only put them on sale a few days ago, didn't we?
Yeah, that's fantastic.
It's not even a week.
Wow.
Good to see.
There are a couple of other comments that I missed, but I will just point out every single time we put out an Islander, we get thousands of emails after they come off sale.
Yes.
We tell them every time we're only going to print sell.
And yet every time people email in afterwards saying, Oh, I didn't get down to it.
Yeah.
It's like, Yeah.
So trust us guys.
There is a limited number.
And remember, and so I was I was talking to a friend of mine the other day, who was like, oh, can I get some of the back issues?
I was like, no.
There aren't.
Yeah.
Well, we actually have a stock of our own.
But not many.
But not many.
And, you know, we're not going to get them reprinted for because it's not about, like, you know, encouraging people to buy them or something.
Because they always sell really well.
What it is is each issue is a moment in time that represents the feeling of the of the now, right?
And this is what was going on spiritually with us, you know, philosophically with us.
And this is why it's for now.
And, you know, get one in the future that will be for that moment in time.
Because it's full of essays that are just really deep dives into the current zeitgeist of the time and the, you know, really going, picking apart a philosophical issue on an emotional level.
And so it's like, you know, there's something more to this.
It's not just a magazine, right?
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