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	Who are the men that pick for scraps amongst the ruins at the end of history?
	You should know, because you encounter them every day.
	Between the towering buildings of a fallen empire, we find the Felahin, the historyless men, who know nothing of the turning of the cosmic wheel and find themselves outside of civilization itself.
	Cut loose from the great chain of being, they represent the loan into which our dying culture will return.
	That is, unless we choose to take up the burden once again.
	This Felahin condition is the subject we explore in issue four of Islander magazine.
	On sale while stocks last and available worldwide at shop.loadseaters.com.
	Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
	Welcome to the podcast of The Load Seaters for Wednesday, the 6th of August, 2025.
	I'm joined by Dan and Nate from Mr. H Reviews, and we are going to be discussing which left-wing activists we're going to be taking as our second, third, and fives.
	Now, that was what we were discussing before the podcast, I'm afraid.
	That's a more interesting conversation for another person.
	We had to stop.
	Yeah, I made sure my mic was pushed well away from me while just in case it was live.
	No, what we're actually going to be talking about is Trump not being able to serve Israel and America.
	Niger Farage going left-wing.
	And why?
	Well, we're just going to be asking the question: why do the Democrats have such weird, pervy, and degenerate, and morally abhorrent artwork on their walls?
	What is going on here?
	It's all a bit bloody peculiar.
	And so we'll begin.
	So, before we start, go and get Islander magazine.
	Stocks are going fast.
	So go to shop.loadsees.com.
	It's an excellent edition issue, whatever I want to say.
	I, of course, have got an essay in there, and it's brilliant, if I do say so.
	By the way, that was a really good trainer, actually.
	Who put that together?
	Well, I wrote the script.
	Right.
	I guess the chaps edited it.
	They did a good job.
	Oh, thank you.
	And you, I mean, the script is lovely too.
	That's not working.
	So let's go here.
	Right.
	So, you may remember the Bible.
	Any of you familiar with the Bible?
	From Matthew 6.24?
	You haven't read it?
	I haven't read it.
	Oh, good.
	Okay.
	From Matthew 6.24.
	No man can serve two masters.
	Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you'll be devoted to the one and despise the other.
	You cannot serve both God and money.
	And my goodness, isn't Donald Trump learning this?
	Because his approval rating is taking a dive.
	And I'm not alone in suspecting that it's Donald Trump's.
	I don't know how to describe it without sounding like I'm on a team here.
	Affinity.
	Affinity for Israel is a good way of putting it.
	Well, I know what team he should be on because he's the president of the US.
	So I mean, that gives you a clue.
	Kind of follows on the name, doesn't it?
	Yeah.
	But he's definitely taking a bit of a hit in his popularity.
	For example, I mean, his approval rating, as this article tells us, he's down to 38% in a recent poll, which with 58% disapproval rating, which is a significant drop, six points since their last poll.
	Well, also intelligently, South Park came out with that hit thing on him.
	And Republicans were like, yeah, fair enough.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, don't argue with South Park because obviously it's arguing the court jester, but still, why are you in a position where South Park can mock you in quite an effective way?
	And could basically get no pushback for it.
	Yeah.
	Well, the interesting thing about that, I think it's mildly interesting anyway, is that South Park chose to mock him by proxy with Mr. Garrison becoming Donald Trump before.
	And they never actually waded into it properly.
	They just satirized him via Mr. Garrison, but wasn't actually really satirizing him that much.
	And now they've just gone, yeah, we'll just do the whole thing.
	Now you're having sex with Satan with your tiny dick.
	It's like, okay, that's new.
	I mean, at least it was Satan, not Pibby.
	I mean, they could have gone one further.
	Well, I mean, on that note, we'll get to that in a minute.
	But yeah, so anyway, Trump's ratings are going down, and everyone is well aware that the Epstein files have been not necessarily a public concern, but it's really put a ridge, carved a groove in the base.
	And then you had him being booed at a WWE event, which is really weird because, I mean, he's in the WWE Hall of Fame.
	I mean, the demographic of WWE as well, you'd think that's his base.
	Well, they are.
	Is it, isn't it, right?
	Well, he's high testosterone and therefore it's right wing.
	You know, he should be able to get cheered at any of these.
	And he used to be.
	He absolutely used to be.
	So you can see that the direction that Trump has been taking recently has not exactly been improving his standing with his own base.
	And I think this is a concern because the midterms are going to be coming up in like a year or whatever it is, a year and a half.
	And at the moment, Trump's in a good position to get a lot of stuff done, but this could change.
	And he could end with this last couple of years as just a lame duck presidency that gets nothing done, which wouldn't be good.
	And so actually working for the good of America primarily and not being like a street sweeper for Israel would be much more sensible.
	And I hate to say it because, you know, I've been a massive Trump supporter since 2017.
	You know, I went to Trump Tower to get my MAGA hat in New York.
	And so watching him basically cleaning up after Netanyahu every day is just frustrating.
	And the first six months was so good.
	He came in with so much energy.
	He was getting so much done, 100% behind him.
	Every day we were like, this is what he's done.
	It's amazing.
	He's going so strong.
	And then Iran just, sorry, Israel just decided, yeah, we want to pick a fight with Iran.
	And it's just tanked everything.
	And so Trump had to clean that up.
	I actually forgot to include that in this because there were other things, but you're right.
	Yeah, they started a war with Iran and they couldn't finish it.
	And Trump had to bomb them to get it to stop.
	I mean, the Epstein files as well, that has just been tragic mismanagement of optics.
	And so easily resolved as well.
	Like, oh, it's a hoax.
	They made it up.
	There's nothing in there, though, either.
	Oh, well, that's a pretty bad hoax then, isn't it?
	So step one.
	Surely they would have done something then, wouldn't they, if they made it up?
	Step one, hire one of the most prominent Epstein-talking podcasters to your deputy chief of FBI.
	Step two, call the whole thing a hoax.
	Oh, no.
	Send influencers out with files that everyone had already.
	Woo, look at that.
	It's phase one.
	Okay, well, what's phase two?
	Nothing.
	It was a hoax.
	What was it phase one?
	It's on my desk.
	Oh, there's nothing that there's nothing on my desk, actually.
	For goodness sake.
	Oh, honestly.
	Watching poor old Dan Bongino go, no, no, he killed himself.
	It looked like a hostage video.
	It was like, look, Dan, I know you know.
	You know, and I was genuinely optimistic, but I, like, who knows what he's been threatened with or what he found or whatever, you know, who God only knows.
	The Epstein situation as well as Israel, both of those things are, that seems to be the litmus test now for, you know, his base going, what is he actually, does he actually believe in everything he's saying?
	Does he have any conviction behind the rhetoric that we saw on the leader?
	You know, and was everything, you know, before performative.
	I mean, the other files, nothing was revealed either.
	It's like, right, so which ones which are we just getting exactly where you started.
	You can't serve two masters.
	And this really is the issue that he's going to have to decide on, or he's going to find that his presidency is rent in two.
	So this, and again, I just want to be completely clear.
	We've been big Trump supporters, and I'm personally very neutral on the Israel-Gaza thing.
	It's not my business.
	I don't care.
	There are terrible things happening all over the world every day, and I don't weigh in on those.
	And so I'm kind of resentful that I have to weigh in on this because this just doesn't feel like my business.
	I'm not connected to it.
	I don't care about whatever the civil war is in Sudan or in the Congo or the Saudi Yemen bombings and all this.
	And no one else cares either.
	It's only on this that we have to be like, okay, now someone's dragging me into it.
	And unfortunately, it's Donald Trump.
	So anyway, Israel has been taking the gloves off when it comes to Gaza.
	And there are lots of people.
	I mean, this is just ruins of Gaza.
	Lots of people who are like, well, this is pretty bad, isn't it?
	And yet, this is absolutely atrocious.
	And don't get me wrong, on October the 7th, yeah, it was an absolute massacre, an atrocity.
	The answer isn't just level everything in Gaza.
	Boots on the ground, I'm afraid, is the answer.
	If you're like, well, we have to get rid of Hamas, which is the Israeli line.
	Well, then you have to get troops in there and find those men and take them out.
	If they'd done that, even if they'd done it really heavy-handedly, like troop carriers going through the streets, armed men jumping out, pulling people out of houses, the world would have accepted that.
	But just carpet bombing the place, that's a bit harder.
	Yeah, it's just not acceptable.
	And so Israel is losing the PR war here.
	Completely losing the EPR war.
	And they know it.
	This is the thing.
	They know it.
	They know that they're going over crossing a Rubicon that they can't just come back from.
	Almost appreciate the balls of them, to be honest.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I'm not saying I approve of it wholeheartedly, but I mean, you've got some stones to do what they've done.
	Yeah, I mean, you can't deny that they have balls, but when they're kind of doing the Roman option.
	Yeah.
	Which is, yeah, we're just going to salt the land.
	Yeah, but that's not, that doesn't wash in the modern era.
	Oh, no, of course not.
	You know, it wasn't very nice then either.
	Anyway, so this is getting really, really, really bad.
	And there's just no hiding it.
	There's no getting away from it.
	And it's tough for Israelis and pro-Israeli activists on social media.
	But I mean, it's just everywhere.
	And you've just got to look it in the face, really.
	And even Trump is like, well, look, there is real starvation in Gaza.
	He says he's not convinced by Israeli denials of starvation in Gaza.
	He's seen the pictures on TV and said the children look hungry.
	That's real starvation stuff.
	You can't fake that.
	So, right, we all agree, man.
	He acknowledges it, but he's like.
	Yeah, he acknowledges it, right?
	I mean, all things being equal, when they've got closed borders and they're being carpet bombs, I would generally expect to find people going hungry.
	It would be very unusual if they weren't.
	And so Trump accepts that this is an issue that Israel has caused.
	And so he's like, yeah, I think Israel can preside over the US aid distribution in Gaza.
	What?
	Why would you do that?
	I'm not sure that's going to be the optimal.
	Yes, they'll do a good job of delivering aid to Gaza.
	They probably won't, will they?
	No.
	Their intention is quite literally to get rid of them all.
	That is their intention.
	I mean, it does look like just straightforward ethnic cleansing at this point.
	Now, just to be clear, because I know people are going to kick off in the comments.
	One way.
	There's going to be those people who support Gaza and kick off.
	There's people who support.
	Yeah, I know.
	This is why I hate this subject.
	I mean, to be fair, I mean, Faraz has quite a good line on it.
	These two people deserve each other because they both do awful things to each other all the time and they just keep escalating.
	Yes.
	Long history of the Middle East summarized in this conflict.
	But yeah, Trump has said that Israel will run food distribution centers in Gaza.
	Would they?
	That's very optimistic.
	Speaking to reporters on his presidential jet, he stressed the Israeli talking point that Hamas steals food assistance distributed in Gaza.
	A claim that's been denied by aid groups.
	But the thing is, I think there's probably something to that as well.
	Oh, I'd imagine they probably do.
	You've seen the footage of them.
	They're all fat.
	Yeah.
	They're all fat.
	Or the fighters, the Hamas fighters.
	They're all chubby.
	Yeah.
	And this is like, right, okay, you're not starving.
	So someone's.
	Yeah, somebody's getting it.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Somebody's getting food.
	Somebody's not getting food.
	And so I think there's basically validity on both sides of the eye.
	But I think Faraz is probably right here.
	They just deserve each other.
	But anyway, yeah, I wouldn't exactly give Israel the keys to the city on this one.
	Because you've got, what is this, Human Rights Watch.
	And this is a report from Human Rights Watch, but many different people and groups now have accused Israel of shooting at people who are going to these food trucks to get food.
	Well, when you say people have accused video of it as well.
	It's former IDF soldiers who have made these accusations.
	Yes, but also others as well.
	It's not just those.
	But Beckless Will or Willie, the Associate Crisis and Conflict Director at Human Rights Watch, said Israeli forces are not only deliberately starving Palestinian civilians, they're now gunning them down almost every day as they desperately seek food for their families.
	US-backed Israeli forces and private contractors have put in place a flawed militarized aid distribution system that's turned aid distributions into regular bloodbaths.
	It's like, right, yeah.
	So I don't think Israel should be in charge of distributing the Palestinian food.
	Can't help but feel.
	I mean, there have been loads of statements from like Israeli politicians that are just about like, can we just ship them all to Europe and stuff like this?
	Like, oh, no, thanks.
	Yeah, you know, like, thanks, but no thanks.
	And so Trump has had to clean this up.
	And he's like, right, okay, I'll take over the aid effort.
	It's like, great.
	So now you like, rather than reining Israel in, which is what really should be happening.
	Bringing them to here.
	I'm actually saying, sort yourself out now.
	Exactly.
	I mean, after you have to clean up the Iran issue with Israel, now having to clean up this.
	Look, is there anything that Israel can do that Donald Trump will put his foot down on?
	I'm pretty certain Donald Trump yesterday made some kind of proclamation of any companies in or states.
	They'll do the boycotting thing.
	Yeah, we'll get it.
	Oh, okay.
	You've got it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I couldn't believe that.
	The thing I can't get my head around is why does Israel have this much power over the US?
	I've never heard a satisfactory answer to that.
	Do you have one?
	It might be linked to some fire.
	Sorry, Samson, I actually forgot to put those links in at the end.
	Can you do us a favor?
	And I did have that in my browser.
	I just forgot to put it in the end of my second.
	While he's loading that in, I mean, I can see, again, referring to Faraz, because he's done some great work on this.
	On his series, he's done a bit on Iran and Israel and that kind of stuff.
	And I get the geopolitical overview, which is, look, that region of the world, the Middle East, is normally controlled by one of the Persians, the Ottomans, or the kingdom on the Nile.
	So basically, Egypt, Turkey, Iran, one of them ends up dominating that region.
	And so the reason why the US wants Israel in there is because it's grit in the mill that stops anything from happening in that area.
	So I get it, but you could make the same argument for supporting the Philippines in that triangle in the South China Sea between Indonesia, Japan, and China.
	But why does Israel get not the same amount of support as the Philippines does, which is doing the same geopolitical function?
	I don't get what's going on here.
	Well, that's the question.
	And a lot of people say, well, look at the amount of money that AIPAC spends on American politicians.
	I mean, they literally raise millions and millions of dollars for Lowe's.
	There are websites that show the contributions of APAC.
	And Tucker Carlson actually confronted Ted Cruz about this the other day.
	And Ted Cruz is like, yeah, yeah.
	Ted Cruz was like, well, you know, we just raise money.
	And it's like, okay, but that's the problem, Ted.
	Yeah.
	The problem is you're becoming financially dependent for your political campaign.
	So if you want to draw the money aspect on a foreign country.
	If you want to draw the money aspect in and how money flows work across the world, well, suddenly I can start to see something going on.
	Right.
	And then, but then you have questions of compromise from Mossad and the questions of the Epstein files.
	And so this, you know, whether this is correct or not, this is the impression that many people have.
	Certainly, it's certainly an odd thing to do, isn't it?
	Like, this is the hill everyone's going to die on, just Israel.
	So I think, really?
	Yeah.
	Is there anything that Israel can do that goes too far?
	And the answer appears to just be no, actually.
	So anyway, yeah, Trump apparently has said, quote, he's not thrilled about the idea of the U.S. taking charge, but it kind of has to happen.
	There doesn't seem to be another way.
	I mean, there is.
	Yeah, you could just stop giving Israel billions of dollars to have all the weapons that they're using to...
	Well, and a blank check to act.
	I mean, you could literally just say, you are going to stop because we are the U.S. and you are not.
	That's how that's going to go.
	The starvation problem in Gaza is getting worse.
	Trump doesn't like that.
	He doesn't want babies to starve.
	He wants mothers to be able to nurse their children.
	He's becoming fixated on that, an official said.
	A second U.S. official said the administration will be careful not to get too dragged too deep into the Gaza crisis.
	I think you're a bit late for that.
	The horse has bolted at this point.
	I think you are definitely quite involved.
	We're going to take over Gaza aid, but we don't want to get too involved.
	Yeah, well, exactly.
	And so Israel is planning to occupy Gaza just completely.
	And it's like, right, okay.
	Like, that's going to end brilliantly, isn't it?
	Netanyahu has been meeting with his senior security officials to discuss the plans to do this.
	And when asked about this, Trump was like, well, you know, it's kind of up to Israel, isn't it?
	It's like, is it?
	I remember saying that as well.
	Support Israel reoccupying all of Gaza has been suggested by some Israeli officials.
	Well, I don't know what the suggestion is.
	I know that we are there now trying to get people fed.
	As you know, $60 million was given by the United States fairly recently to supply food and a lot of food, frankly, for the people of Gaza that are obviously not doing too well with the food.
	And I know Israel's going to help us with that in terms of distribution and also money.
	We also have the Arab states are going to help us with that in terms of the money and possibly distribution.
	So that's what I'm focused on as far as the rest of it.
	I really can say that's going to be pretty much up to Israel.
	Yeah, please.
	So they've just got a free hand.
	Why don't you know what the suggestion is?
	You are the U.S. Why don't you know?
	You should know what is going on.
	It's so, so bizarre.
	And yeah, the bit that I forgot to include at the end was that the Trump administration was planning on not giving federal funds as disaster relief in aid to states that had boycotted Israel.
	So mostly Democrat states.
	Well, so if you're on your roof and the tornado's come in and there's water running past your second floor, you've now got to go through your ex history and delete all your anti-Israel posts before you can get a helicopter to come in and rescue you.
	Well, I'm afraid it's not your choice, actually.
	So if the state is in the Democrat governor of the state has been like, right, okay, I don't agree with what you're doing in Gaza.
	We're going to boycott Israel.
	Trump's like, well, you're not getting relief aid if there's a hurricane or something like that.
	It's like, that's not exactly America first, is it?
	No.
	That's not exactly putting the American public.
	It does sound like some country first.
	Yeah, well, it's very definitely some country being put first.
	I mean, that's mental.
	That's actually mental.
	It's hard to believe it would even have been a consideration at a cabinet meeting, right?
	Yeah.
	Right, okay, so what do we need to do to get them to be on Israel's side?
	Well, we could withhold relief funding, right?
	You know, it's just American citizens who are.
	You start into that arc of that character from civil war, you know, the guy with the green sunglasses who's like, yeah, but what kind of American are you?
	Oh, yeah.
	Are you a pro-Israeli American?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But that is absolutely bonkers, though.
	That's mad.
	Just me.
	No, it's legitimately insane.
	It's like sins of the father.
	But even if I didn't vote for them, I'm going to die.
	It's like, what?
	What?
	Why was that even?
	Why?
	Why did anyone suggest that?
	Yeah, I mean, that's the point, isn't it?
	Why was this even in your minds?
	Let alone arrive at a policy position that the base had to chimp out at.
	Oh, no.
	Absolutely spurred out all over social media.
	And then they walked it back and said, okay, no, no, we won't do that, actually.
	Because actually, that'd be crazy.
	Oh, no, a state is boycott Israel.
	No.
	Yeah, exactly.
	What are you doing?
	Honestly, I'm just like.
	I don't understand it.
	And I can't even fathom what must be underneath it.
	But the thing is, when you start adding all these things up, you realize that there is just a deeply unhealthy relationship between America and Israel.
	It's got to be completely disconnected.
	These ties are reprehensible when you're going to risk U.S. citizens' lives.
	I mean, this is just mental.
	It could literally get Americans killed.
	There's no justification for that behavior at all from a US president.
	And there's obviously a far more sort of hardline position on Israel and narrative in Israel that I'm not a fan of, but like, you know, the.
	They don't seem like the most grateful bunch.
	Of course not.
	And that's what I find particularly galling.
	Where was J.D. Vance going?
	You didn't say thank you.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Exactly.
	And ironically, I'm not a fan of Zelensky, but he seems a lot more grateful to the Americans and to the West than the bloody Israelis do.
	Yeah, I hate Zelensky, but he does seem a little bit more grateful than Netanyahu, to be honest.
	Like I said, I'm not a fan of Zelensky, but I prefer him over Netanyahu.
	Anyway, so yeah, I just can't get over Trump's relationship with Israel and America's relationship with Israel more broadly.
	And it's, I think, the reason that his poll ratings are tanking and that his base is booing him when he goes to WWE matches.
	I think he needs to get a real handle on this.
	And basically just sack up and be like, Israel, you're going to have to do as I say now.
	The tail is wagging the dog here, and that's not acceptable.
	If I want you to do something, you're just going to have to do it.
	And if you want to have a big confrontation about it, then the confrontation just has to be had, frankly.
	Anyway, we'll leave that there.
	That's a random name says, wouldn't it be crazy if the West's largest generation, the boomers, get one shot by a sob story about our greatest ally?
	And if you dare question that story, you can get jailed.
	Well, I mean, like, another thing I forgot to include is the Israelis are well aware that they're losing the propaganda war at this point, because Gen Z and the Millennials just do not care about Israel.
	Gen X are kind of on it.
	But the Boomers, you know, who are absolutely Israeli diehards, they're getting too old now.
	Well, I mean, the reason the Gen X is like that is because they've known their whole life, if you talk on this issue, you basically get excommunicated.
	Whereas Zoomers don't have jobs anyway, so it's like, why should they care?
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's exactly right.
	But yeah, so it's an issue whose time is coming, frankly.
	Right, let's go on to Farage.
	All right.
	Well, we need to talk about Nigel Al Fahj.
	Or as I like to call him, Nigel Fragile.
	A little bit good.
	He's woke now.
	Oh, yes, we heard.
	I saw JK Rowling tweeting about him.
	Yeah.
	This guy, man, honestly.
	This guy, effectively, Cameronite Tory rising from the ashes, aren't they?
	That's effectively what these individuals at Reform are.
	It's quite insane.
	Sorry, do you want the...
	Give me that little...
	It used to be higher than that.
	I'm sure it was higher than that, their poll ratings.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so they're going backwards in the polls.
	They've also lost members.
	Reformers as an entity have started to reach what looks like their kind of capacity.
	So when you say they've lost members, is that over and above the many, many that they have booted out themselves because they said a vaguely right-wing thing?
	Yeah, they've got a counter and it's just started going down.
	They've been going backwards.
	They lost a little bit.
	They lost something like 10,000 because they've done it on like a yearly subscription.
	So after a year, if you don't renew your subscription, and so like 10,000 clocked up.
	Is it too much to ask?
	Our far-right parties are just far off.
	Is it too much to ask?
	Just to explain for the Americans, the way it works in this country, we've got two parties, Labour, which openly say we're going to betray you.
	Tories are the most successful political party of all time because they claim that they were not going to betray you and then do.
	And all he had to do was do the Tory playbook of saying we're not going to betray you.
	But he's not even in office yet.
	And he's just saying all this stuff.
	Already started doing it.
	So they, like I said, I think that they've reached their capacity by the looks of it.
	And whether this is what they're doing now is like a conscious move to destroy the gains they've made.
	I don't know.
	I mean, it doesn't make any sense, to be fair.
	It doesn't make any sense at all.
	Let me shift this over.
	So we've got.
	Effectively, what happened was Nigel, Nigel Farage, Came out and did this big this press conference.
	Yeah, this press conference with, again, more Tories, more Tory defectors, more Tory defectors, one Tory defector and one ex-governor.
	Is it like a boomer-Tory retirement hook?
	This is what I mean.
	It's the Tory Phoenix.
	Yeah.
	They and Whittaker, they've burned down, and so they're trying to reinvigorate themselves.
	So I think we should play this if we can.
	Can we play this, please, Samson?
	When it comes to trans women in prisons, isn't it interesting that we run our country with people who become ministers who generally have absolutely no idea of the subject matter that they're talking about?
	I've personally never worked in a prison, so I can't answer it.
	But I think you'll find that the answer that you'll get from Sanskrit woman is not a problem.
	I've voted in prisons at the highest possible level is, I think, basically it's about risk assessment, isn't it?
	Yeah, I think so.
	I mean, we all know what the law is.
	I'm not going to go back over that yet again.
	But to my mind, everybody who is in prison deserves to be treated with humanity and decency.
	And that includes female prisoners and it includes trans prisoners.
	And, you know, everything in the prison service is risk assessed.
	And I am sure that the prison service will tie itself up in knots over the trans issue, just like many other public sectors have.
	And as Nigel said earlier, you know, we are at the beginning.
	And that is something that we will need to speak about clearly.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but in terms of the problems in prisons, it's a relatively small one.
	Yes, it is.
	Thank you.
	Tenny Diabo, Teller.
	So there's a few take-homes from that that I want to raise.
	Yeah.
	So one, well, I've never worked in a prison, so I can't really talk about it.
	Yes, you can.
	Yes, you can.
	Shut up.
	Of course you can.
	You imbecile.
	You raging imbecile.
	Of course you can.
	That's the same argument that people made.
	The Democrats.
	You're allowed to talk about things even if you haven't.
	Yeah, like what's a woman?
	I'm not a biologist, so I can't.
	Sorry.
	Yeah.
	And then, so, case-by-case basis, what are you doing?
	You absolute clown.
	It's just nonsense.
	Yeah, I can go on this if you want.
	The ex-governor, the ex-prisoner governor, saying that, well, you know, we're going to tie ourselves up and knots about it.
	You don't actually have to.
	You don't have to.
	You don't have to tie yourself up and knots about it, actually.
	You can just go, no, this is what it is.
	It's done.
	It's not up for debate.
	Yes.
	That's done.
	It's locked in.
	It's done.
	And Nigel's commentary at the start there, I think, is sort of emblematic of the issue with reform as a whole.
	Well, it's a relatively small issue.
	So, okay, well, then it should be really easy for you to resolve it, actually.
	So if you can't get into, if you can't deal with these very, very small, minor by your own admissions, minor issue, how are you going to deal with the big ones?
	And he immediately turns it into a process question.
	Yeah.
	Managerial.
	Yeah.
	Notice one thing that struck me listening to her talk there is notice how she's describing prisoners as if they're the victims of disability.
	Oh, no, that was the other thing.
	It annoys the everyone deserves humanity and respect and decency.
	No, they actually don't.
	Yeah, it's the cult of safetyism.
	They don't.
	Why are they in these prisons, actually?
	Yeah.
	Because they've violated someone else's human rights.
	Someone else's humanity and decency.
	Exactly.
	No, you don't deserve anything.
	Now we're on the side of the criminals against the law-abiding public.
	And Nigel's like, well, you know, we've got to worry about those poor trans criminals.
	I'm not sure we do have to worry about it that much.
	Absolute clown.
	So obviously, he's been torn up about this.
	Understandably so.
	It's like, I've never supported men in women's prisons.
	What was that press conference then, Nigel?
	We literally just heard you say it, Nigel.
	Like, what are you doing?
	Rupert Lowe, you did yesterday.
	Yeah, everyone.
	You did.
	Yeah, you did.
	Just everyone.
	Everyone and everything.
	It's just non-stop.
	Like, yeah, we did, though.
	You literally said it.
	Yeah.
	Like, what are you actually doing?
	Okay, I actually have an answer to this.
	Clown.
	But let's carry on a bit because this is not where it stops, is it?
	No, no, it keeps going.
	Right?
	Reform government will never permit men to be housed in women's prisons, says Zia Yousuf, backing up his commander.
	Why didn't you say that then?
	Who's defining what a man is?
	Well, this is the point, isn't it?
	But why didn't you just say that?
	Why didn't you say it at the press conference then?
	It's a complex issue, case by case, basically.
	Oh, of course.
	They deserve humanity indeed.
	I've not worked in a prison, so, you know.
	Can't comment.
	Think of the human rights of the prisoners.
	What about safetyism?
	Mohammed, I didn't think Mohammad Zaya Yousuf would fall on the fall on this.
	Well, of course he is.
	Yeah, of course he is.
	Just duping everyone.
	And it just continues.
	So.
	Of course, Richard Tice.
	Like, what?
	Are you sure about this, Richard?
	Reform do not support men and women's presence.
	So what was yesterday then?
	Or the day before now at the time of recording?
	If it's so easy for you to come out and say this, why didn't you do it at the time when all the media were there?
	Oh, well, we know why.
	Why are you playing defense on an issue that the right has won?
	The Supreme Court came out Why are we regressing?
	Yeah, exactly.
	The Supreme Court, and for all the Supreme Court that I don't care about and I'd like to get rid of it, at least, you know, the left view that as like the authority.
	Keir Starmer's like, well, the Supreme Court has come out and given a judgment.
	Men are male, women are female, and that's the end of it.
	And so even Kier Starmer, who's now apparently to the right of reform on the trans issue, has come out and go like, right.
	And so Nigel Farage's like, yeah, the right took that hill, and I kind of want to give it back to the left.
	I need to reopen the trans issue so the left have got some more purchase on this one.
	Because for some reason, I can't just take the win.
	That's so bizarre.
	It's so bizarre.
	It's preposterous.
	That's the weirdest situation.
	And so.
	So this is the Tory defector.
	The woman we just heard was Vanessa Frake, the former prison governor.
	The chap that was next to him.
	Yeah, she's not trans now, I don't think.
	And she's going to counsel the party on criminal justice matters.
	And she said she opposes the automatic exclusion of trans women from female prisons.
	So Nigel Farage has taken a leftist as an advisor.
	I mean, she said that.
	She clearly said that.
	And he was up on stage nodding.
	Yeah.
	It's not like he spoke ambiguously.
	And then I could understand all of these tweets saying, oh, just to be clear.
	But he wasn't speaking ambiguously.
	He said, let's hand it off to this woman who went through the process, explained that actually on a case-by-case basis, maybe you should have guys as well.
	That's what he said himself.
	He said, it's a case-by-case basis.
	But she's saying, I wouldn't have joined reform if I'd known they were trans exclusionary.
	Oh, like, like, literally, if I'd known that reform have the turf position, which they're all claiming that they do, I wouldn't have joined.
	So they've got a woke person on the question.
	So he's come out as anti-turf.
	That's why.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That's why J.K. Rowling has been kicking off.
	J.K. Rowling is more right-wing than Nigel Farage.
	On the question of are men, men, and are women women?
	So for anyone watching, J.K. Rowling has tweeted, I genuinely cannot believe that Nigel Farage has now agreed with comments that some trans women prisoners, males, should remain in women's prisons.
	This is absolutely absurd.
	Men do not belong in women's prisons.
	Why can't reform get this right?
	What are they on?
	And J.K. Rowling's like, this is misogyny.
	Okay, JK.
	But like, yes, this is crazy.
	Yeah, this is mental.
	So not being satisfied with being to the left of the Tory party, he now wants to be...
	And Starmer.
	And Starmer.
	He now wants to be to the left of the JKO Rowling as well.
	Yes, every character in Harry Potter is gay.
	J.K. Rowling.
	Yes.
	JK, I'm the world.
	I don't think he's doing this right-wing populism correctly.
	Dog, I just want one right-wing party.
	That's all we need.
	I guess even worse than that, because, yeah, they did all those tweets.
	So now we don't support this.
	We don't support this.
	Right, okay.
	So what's Anne Whittakham saying?
	I have the exact quote, if you like.
	Yeah.
	She says, allowing a man who identifies as a woman to be housed among female prisoners poses too great a risk to their safety, and therefore is a dereliction of duty on the part of the prison service.
	For that reason, and in light of the recent ruling of the Supreme Court, it's reform policy to keep such prisoners in male prisons.
	However...
	Ah.
	However, it's doing heavy lifting, I see.
	There is a small number of trans people who have gone the whole hog.
	They have undergone extensive surgery to remove their male genitalia and create a seemingly female body.
	They have developed breasts and taken drugs to suppress male hormones and promote female ones.
	They look and sound exactly like the women they believe they have become and may have lived that way for many years.
	So the official reform policy appears to be, quote, trans women are women.
	I mean, that's literally it, isn't it?
	That's literally where they're at now.
	If you mutilate yourself enough.
	Yes, if you take in Anne Whittakam's book.
	And trans women are women.
	That's how this works, according to reform.
	Actual mental.
	Even the Labour Party don't agree with this.
	Like, this is the same opinion policy as the Green Party.
	This is the Green Party's position.
	It used to be a joke.
	You made the joke at some conference once.
	I'll probably end up voting Labour because they're the most right-wing party.
	It's not a joke anymore.
	They literally are the most right-wing party in this country.
	Well, I mean, to be fair, Ben Habib's advanced party is probably a bit rather to the right than that.
	If they even have a candidate in your area.
	But that's the point.
	Are they going to have a candidate in our area come 2029?
	Because I definitely would vote for that over the trans party reform.
	I think it's interesting, isn't it?
	Reform what is their purpose?
	I mean, so this is obviously like what are they doing?
	This is obviously a major issue of factors.
	Before we move on, though, there's actually a really easy rebuttal and response to this whole thing that doesn't concede that men who mutilate themselves through surgery are now women.
	And that is, okay, well, look, if necessary, have a trans-only prisoner.
	Yeah, yeah, just there'd be such a small member of this population of the prisoner, right?
	Okay, so it's fine.
	Exactly.
	It's only a few hundred get a particular wing, so they're separate from the other prisoners.
	Deal with that.
	So they're not, you know, exactly right.
	There are actual answers to this that aren't, yes, actually, J.K. Rowling's wrong, and actually, trans women are women.
	Yeah.
	That's ridiculous.
	It's funny as well.
	Nigel is that meme of a guy riding a bike.
	Like, why can't I win?
	Jams are sticking it.
	Yeah, why do I do this to myself?
	And he has lost about eight points in the polls as well.
	They were up like 34, 35%.
	Really bad.
	And it's not just this.
	So there's obviously a big issue, right?
	But I looked through his Twitter to try to find any commentary about the protests that have happened.
	Yeah, nothing.
	None.
	Literally none.
	None that I could find.
	Correct me.
	I think he was a TV news segment on it, but I didn't watch it.
	It's probably at the behest of the GB News, though.
	Yeah, probably, yeah.
	You know, his employer, I mean, he produces.
	We have to cover this.
	What an easy win for them.
	Like, do you remember?
	And I thought this whilst I was driving over here, I just didn't have time to chuck it in.
	But when did he go down to the farmers' protest?
	And when did Zia join?
	He did go down to the farmers' protest.
	Was Zia already part of that?
	Yeah, he was.
	What a weird thing.
	I'll go downside with the farmers, but I won't side with the pink-clad mums.
	The women who are worried about foreign invaders.
	The thing which propelled him in the media more and more.
	What is this?
	We're down to something like just over 50% of people actually voting in elections.
	If he went along to those protests, he would capture 15% of the people who aren't voting, which would easily put him over the top.
	It's so strange.
	I mean, remember that when Boris came in, he had 52% approval rating.
	And it was because Boris had lied to everyone, as you say, but like, we're going to get Brexit done.
	This is going to be essentially, and Boris didn't say it in these terms, but everyone felt, oh, finally, a right-wing government is going to take over and do something for the country.
	That was the general sense that Boris was putting across.
	Obviously, total betrayal, more stabs in the back.
	But Farage could easily capture that energy because it would sound believable from him because he's been the right-wing populist for a long time.
	People would believe it, even if it was a lie, which obviously it would be a lie, but like, you know.
	It's all about ego for him.
	So when I went through his Twitter, I mean, this was.
	I mean, this was quite, you know, love Rupert Lowesler terrorizing him under every single tweet.
	The same journalist who accused me of stoking fear over crime also admits to wearing a phone strap because they're afraid of snatch theft.
	Go figure.
	It's like, can you tweet anything that's not about you, Nigel?
	Like, seriously, can you tweet anything that's not about you?
	Again, just they are just the Tories reborn.
	You know, they're so proud.
	It's such a weird thing to be proud of accepting Tories.
	I thought it was really weird when it started to happen, but then they just kept doing it and then they kept tweeting it out as if they're proud.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're taking more Tories.
	We're taking more Tories.
	Well, at what point are you then just the Tories?
	Well, at what point?
	I can think of an explanation for what he's doing that makes sense if you adopt a different set of motives.
	So what it could be that he's doing is every time his poll rising gets too high, he comes up with his woke nonsense because he wants to keep his polling in a range where after the election, he doesn't outright win.
	But if he merged with the Tories, that would put them over the top, which is proper reinvigorating the Tories-type movement.
	I mean, that's...
	What?
	I hate that.
	Yeah, I hate it too.
	But that does make sense, right?
	That explains everything he's doing.
	That is his motive.
	It's just so frustrating that he's got such an easy hand.
	He's holding all the cards, assuming he actually wants to win.
	Well, that's the thing.
	It's a matter of will, isn't it?
	He's exactly.
	He's got all of the aces, and it's like, yeah, I'm not going to play them.
	It's like, why?
	I'm going to just hold or fold or whatever.
	I'm going to actually do the opposite of the aces.
	Yeah, I'm literally going to fold instead so someone else wins.
	What are you doing?
	Yeah.
	Trans women are women, actually.
	He says, Nigel Farage.
	But again, like, becoming like a Tory retirement home, like, I just can't understand it.
	Because if I was running reform and they were like, oh, can we defect?
	I'd be like, no.
	I don't trust turncoats.
	No, you stand and die by your failed party.
	You losers.
	I do.
	I will choose someone good and I will raise them up who deserves it.
	Not just like some losers.
	Yeah, I mean, I would go a step further than that, knowing full well that the mood of the nation was one of sheer resentment for the Tories, so much so that they were obliterated at the election.
	Every single time a Tory attempted to defect, I'd host a press conference and outrightly.
	Yeah, I would.
	And I'd say, no, the public rejected you.
	We reject you.
	You are a bunch of losers.
	That's what I would do every single time.
	And you would rise so far in the polls.
	But no.
	You know, the structure is its function, right?
	The structure of reform is just full of Tories now.
	The function is going to be Tories.
	They are containment.
	They are demonstrable containment.
	There's no other way around it.
	I think a lot of this, it might come down to what you're saying, but I think the motivation, I think Farage has always been kind of salty that the Tories didn't embrace the Brexity stuff way back in the day, like 30 years ago.
	And he basically had to get kicked out of the Tory party and join UKIP, right, to get anywhere done.
	I think that this is him taking revenge on them, which, okay, great, Niger, but the country's in a hell of a state, mate.
	Oh, weird.
	I mean, just build up the mind idea that he's trying to put the Tories over the top or engineer a situation.
	To be fair, that is what he's done on at least three previous elections.
	Yeah.
	That's true.
	He stood down for Boris.
	Yeah.
	And put it this way: look, let's say you were watching somebody in a casino and they had the cards to win, and they consistently didn't, but ended up engineering it so somebody else on the table won.
	I mean, after a while, you'd start to think, yeah, maybe they're working together.
	Yeah.
	Although, I think he's just trying to humble the Tories.
	I think he wants them to come to him, bend the knee, and beat them then.
	Well, that's the thing.
	Yeah, why would you not?
	But the thing is, that'll destroy them, right?
	I don't think he's trying to destroy them.
	I think what he wants is recognition from.
	Oh, what an idiot.
	What an absolute loser.
	I hate this guy with an absolute passion.
	And it's such easy wins, you know, being asked about Islam.
	No, we can't alienate Islam.
	Just can't do it.
	Can't deport people.
	Just can't do it.
	Sorry.
	Oh, halal meat.
	No, I'm not interested, actually, you know.
	Trans women, though.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I will make a bold statement about that.
	It's his policy that we can't do anything about Islam taking over in 2040.
	Can't alienate them, in fact.
	The only thing we can do is appeal to them so that they don't kill us when they take over.
	Yeah, appease them, basically.
	And then doesn't want to do anything about halal.
	And I think, you know, I don't know if anyone remembers in their sort of geology classes or anything along those lines, but erosion.
	You know, erosion doesn't start with a cliff just completely collapsing.
	It's a slow, you know, slow sedimentary loss here, there, and everywhere.
	View our culture like a cliff face.
	Yeah.
	You know, this slow erosion is what's going to completely collapse it.
	So, yeah, halal food is an important one, actually.
	Ban it.
	It's barbaric and disgusting.
	Every standard we abandon was important.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Exactly right.
	Slow sedimentary loss.
	And that cliff face will collapse.
	And it's just been allowed to.
	I mean, if we only had two policies on this, one, ban halal meat, two, take away benefits and people who weren't born here.
	Just those two things alone would turn the inflow into an outflow.
	Yes.
	It would save us huge amounts of money.
	It'd turn the entire thing around.
	And yeah, here we are.
	But at least we got some good memes out of this, right?
	So I tagged these on the end.
	People are just like, what is happening?
	So for anyone watching, it's the stone toss meme of the two groups pulling.
	The trans and reform with Nigel Farage on one side and Keir Starmer's Labour Party and J.K. Rowling are on the other.
	And the caption is what the actual F is the UK.
	Yeah, great question.
	No one can really understand exactly how it is that Nigel Farage is being touted as a trans ally by leftists and by various others.
	Trans women should probably be in women's prisons saying, Nigel Farage, Keir Starmer's LGBT without the T. Just I just.
	How is this possible, Nigel?
	Mental.
	Absolutely mental.
	Reform, sorry, restore.
	Rupert Lowe had quite a strong line on this, though, didn't he?
	Just like, no.
	Yeah.
	Women belong in women's prisons.
	Men belong in men's prisons.
	And I tagged a thing on the end of the segment just because it was sort of.
	Yeah, yeah.
	This is the.
	I saw this going around from Blue Sky.
	This is a blue sky Democrat who's planning for the future.
	And they're like, you know what?
	One of the first foreign policy crises that a reconstructionist Democrat president will face in 2029 is what to do with a nuclear-armed reform government and its concentration camps.
	Now, it's important to note, guys, watching, this isn't them believing that reform will be an Islamic party and thus, obviously, you know, enslaving the native indigenous.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	They think reform's far right.
	They think he's quite literally the second coming of mustachioed.
	If there are concentration camps in Reforms Britain, it will be us, yeah.
	100% it will be.
	The only people he ever gets genuinely angry about are the online right.
	Yeah, actual right wing.
	Yeah, yes.
	Yeah, no, you're absolutely right.
	Anyway, yeah.
	Bizarre, actually bizarre.
	What a strange, strange situation.
	So Nigel and Reform, they are quite literally Tories reborn, rising from the ashes as a phoenix.
	I love this meme so much, though.
	It's just, Nigel, how have you found this clown?
	Yeah.
	Anyway, Tom says, Carl, this is why you need Pete North on the podcast.
	He's nasted by God above, he's our ass.
	That's Northern variant.
	I quite like him, to be honest.
	He writes long Dallas screeds about how things are going badly.
	But the thing is, he's generally correct.
	And I tend to agree with him on most things on that.
	Chris says, bang on, Dan.
	Resurrection of the Tories is the aim for reform.
	Entirely possible.
	Glee says, you know who else is to the right of Farage on the trans issue?
	That's right.
	Galloway's Workers' Party of Britain.
	Oh, okay.
	So Galloway's literal communists are to the right of Farage on the trans issue.
	Well, he's Islamist as well, isn't he?
	So I guess that's why.
	He's all the Gaza and lot.
	Yeah, I mean, he's not really...
	Well, the thing is, you say that.
	But do you remember when he was having a go at Hamza Youssef?
	And he did that bit to the camera where he lifted up his glasses like, look at my blue Celtic eyes, Humza.
	Did he?
	You're not a Celtic.
	You're not a Celt, are you, Hamza?
	And it's just like, Jesus, George.
	Where was based far-right George Galloway?
	That's him in a nutshell, though, isn't it?
	That's his opportunistic.
	Yeah, he was just completely opportunistic.
	But Matt says, pro as well, and anti-Russia ideas are because U.S. boomers are still holding political office.
	Boomers have not evolved beyond World War II and Cold War thinking.
	That's totally, totally true.
	Right, okay, let's move on to the horrors that await us.
	So for this one, I'm going to have to give a proper trigger warning, not ironically, like an actual proper trigger warning for this one.
	So, I mean, to let you into what I'm going to do, for those on the Lotus Eaters website, I'll do this uncensored.
	If this goes out on YouTube, we're going to have to censor basically most of the images that I'm going to show here.
	Just to be clear, nothing we're going to show is illegal.
	No, it's all things that you find in the papers.
	All of the stuff I'm going to show is you can find in art galleries or homes of prominent Democrats.
	And we know about it because it's been published in the papers.
	It's just that it's all vile.
	But it's proper wrong.
	So therefore, if you're happy with just listening to descriptions, if you're on YouTube, fine.
	If not, go to lotuseaters.com and you can see the...
	you probably wouldn't want to anyway, but you can see the underlying stuff.
	Before I get into it, just the thing, it's all done by implication.
	That's the issue.
	Yes.
	Well, and that's very much where I'm going with this, the implication.
	It does get quite dark.
	Do go and buy Lotus Eaters.
	One, because it's very, very good, and two, because we need the money.
	And with that, I shall begin.
	So basically, it kind of came to my attention when watching a couple of interviews with Marty May, because Marty May has got on this Epstein stuff.
	Yeah, his interview with Tucker was brilliant.
	Yes.
	I wasn't that impressed with his Churchill revisionism one.
	Not that I'm a huge fan of Churchill.
	I just didn't.
	I just know there were certain stories he told that I was like, well, I'd have a different interpretation of that.
	But I also did a lot of research into the Epstein stuff.
	Because what it did is it made me realise that I'd kind of misunderstood the Epstein situation.
	Because I kind of thought at the back of my mind, okay, what it is, is he invites rich, influential, important people to his home.
	And then he says, oh, isn't it hot?
	Or something?
	Maybe you're like a massage.
	And they're like, oh, yeah, fair enough.
	I'll have a massage.
	And then some girl comes out who's actually 15, but she looks like she could be maybe 18.
	And then they get taken to a room and then he jumps out afterwards and says, aha, she was actually 15.
	Right.
	I basically thought for the last few years that was what was going on.
	You've been very generous.
	Yeah.
	It is so much worse than that.
	And I'm not going to talk about all of it.
	I'm just going to talk about one aspect of the so much worse.
	When I started looking at it, it's like, oh, it's so much worse than the so much worse.
	Right.
	So there's the Tucker Carlson interview.
	There's actually a much better interview with my friend Jay Burden, who interviewed Marty Maid.
	The problem with Tucker, the thing with Marty Maid, right, is when he starts speaking, is he does those pauses thing where he breaks for emphasis.
	And if you pause on Tucker's show, he immediately jumps in.
	Whereas Jay kind of knows that and he kind of let him flow.
	So actually, this is a much better interview for my money for this whole story.
	So yeah, so let's get into Epstein's art.
	So basically, I'm just going to take you through the weirdness.
	And we start with the weirdness of Epstein, but then we swiftly pivot into the weirdness of Democrats.
	So, I mean, this is from his office, you know, a girl lying on a skinned line.
	It's like, okay, fine.
	Bit odd.
	We've got a bit of one of his mansions going on there.
	This one is interesting.
	Yeah, Bill Clinton in Monica Wilinski's dress.
	I'm not going to linger on this one for long, apart from to say note the red shoes.
	That will come up again later.
	This was in his Manhattan apartment, wasn't it?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Note the red shoes.
	Very interesting.
	There he is.
	There's his office behind his desk.
	He's got some gypsy queen with a Norc's out.
	Yeah, so what is, yeah, like that's some sort of a cult thing, right?
	Like, I'm putting in mind of like the Marina Abramovich.
	Don't know what's going on.
	I just know.
	Yeah, I've no idea.
	Just know it's weird.
	All right.
	Obviously, then you've got to have your, where is it?
	You've got to have your stuffed tiger in front of your desk.
	And apparently, also, I couldn't find a photo of it, but next to the desk on that side was a very realistic stuffed poodle sat there like it was about to come lick your hand or something.
	Actually, no, it's just stuffed.
	So oddness.
	That's normal.
	Yes.
	Yes, various bits from him there.
	Here we go.
	I pulled out.
	Oh, that's another one, of course.
	Another one of his.
	Very odd.
	Yeah.
	Two towers falling down.
	Yeah, very odd.
	Bedborns.
	And yes, Bush.
	Don't know what's going on there.
	Some more details have emerged very recently.
	I think this only came out today.
	So this is a look inside Jeffrey Epstein's Manhattan Layer.
	So yeah, we've got a bride being lowered on a rope into what?
	We couldn't say.
	Photos of Epstein with various powerful people.
	How no, so go back to the period.
	So there's the Pope.
	Oh, yeah, the Pope was in there, yes.
	Pope McJagger, Fidel Castro, Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, Richard Branson.
	Good side.
	Bannon.
	Yes.
	Bill Gates.
	Trump.
	Steve Bannon.
	Oh, yeah.
	There's Bill.
	Don't actually know who that is.
	Branson up there, yeah.
	Don't know again who that is.
	Trump and Melania.
	Okay, yeah.
	They're in there.
	Ham, there's a photo of Little St. James there.
	Is there?
	Yeah.
	It's a photo of his island.
	oh hang on there's a There's a signed bill in there.
	Actually, I don't want to focus on this too much, but yeah, William Gates has signed.
	Yeah, and then there's Bill Gates in the background there.
	Like, this is all really interesting because it speaks to a remarkable level of vanity.
	Isn't that NBS as well?
	Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia.
	Might be, yeah.
	It could be wrong, but I think that's it.
	Yeah, anyway, so, yeah, various weirdness of the Jeffrey Epstein situation.
	I quite liked...
	Oh, no, hang on.
	I...
	You...
	You missed one of my licks, Samson.
	You missed one of my links.
	All right, never mind.
	No, I wanted to make the point that I am an art lover myself.
	Okay.
	I am an art.
	So I don't want anyone to criticise me for not having any taste in art.
	Okay.
	Because I genuinely do.
	I've got an extensive art collection myself.
	It isn't like the podesta art, is it?
	No.
	And, you know, so, you know, this is one of the things from my collection.
	I do have a theme.
	Kind of looks like Tristan Tate.
	Yes.
	Somebody in the comments will get the reference to that one.
	So, you know, this is the kind of picture which is not only wholesome, but you can lose yourself in it for hours.
	So, yeah.
	Thing of beauty.
	Absolutely.
	Yes.
	I mean, that is real.
	That is real art.
	Keep them employed.
	So there we go.
	So I don't want anyone to make the argument that I don't know good art when I see it when we go through this stuff.
	I did have something, a letter from somebody who used to attend his house.
	And this is one of his neighbours, and he kind of made the point that it looks like Castle Dracula in there.
	And he would always have like the, you know, no, it's missing that particular link.
	But, you know, how Drac could always have like three vampire brides floating around him.
	Yeah.
	yes that that that was mentioned by one of them what uh oh yes washington life now Let's have a look at Washington life.
	So, right.
	Now I'm going to pivot to where it gets really dark.
	Because so far it's just been a bit weird and a bit occulty.
	Yeah.
	A bit self-serving.
	Right.
	This was published in Washington Life and is about the senior Democrat.
	Can't seem to scroll down on that.
	This is about the senior Democrat Tony Podesta.
	And this was just published.
	Now, just a quick summary.
	He's an American lobbyist, runs Podesta Group, has raised millions and millions of dollars for the Democrats.
	Oh, I mean, there's two protesters.
	There's Tony Podesta, who is one of the most well-connected, high-profile lobbyists.
	And then John Podesta, who was formerly the White House Chief of Staff.
	Well, yes, he was Clinton I's chief of staff.
	He was Hillary Clinton's campaign manager, and he was also a senior advisor to the Obamas as well.
	So, I mean, he's well connected.
	These are both as high up as you get in Democrat world.
	Oh, yeah, what I'll just do is, if you see in the corner there that picture, that's kind of where I'm going to go with this.
	This is where we're going to have to start censoring stuff.
	Have you seen this?
	No.
	It's pretty awful.
	Here's Tony Podesta, the creeping question that we're going to go through.
	Right, so let's have a look at, see if we can blow this up.
	Right.
	What does he put on his wall and is so proud of that he's quite happy to have shown in Washington Live?
	Before we go on doing the public.
	Can we go back a second?
	Because that arch of hysteria piece that he's in front of there.
	Yes.
	So a headless body.
	What are we looking at here?
	It's very Hellraiser-esque, to be honest, isn't it?
	pretty freaky i'd be like okay that's it gets so much worse Good lord.
	It gets quite considerably worse than that.
	So, right.
	Let's focus on this one over here.
	That I think is called synchronized swimming.
	I think if the link was included, I did a bit of a zoom in.
	Oh, no, that link's missing as well.
	Oh, here we go.
	Right.
	So.
	It's a bunch of children laying in what I'm going to guess is an empty swimming pool with leaves around them.
	Is it leaves?
	Yeah.
	leaves around them, and they look...
	I've seen this picture in better quality resolution.
	And they've all got weird dead eyes.
	Some of them not wearing pants.
	Yeah, some of them are just in their underwear.
	Yes.
	But they've all got like weird dead eyes and like, you know, big black eyes.
	They're dead.
	Yeah.
	They're clearly dead.
	Yeah.
	And I'm definitely going to come back to your point about being a swimming pool.
	Because that is where I kind of, you know, really realised something was very, very wrong.
	They are Tony Podesta's favourite artist.
	His favourite artist is a woman who is, I don't want to attack her because she's a young woman who would have been about the age of those girls when she was growing up in the Yugoslavia Civil War.
	And God knows what trauma this working crew.
	fair yeah um so i'm not i can't criticize her But why does he want it?
	Yeah, you can criticise someone enjoying the art to a high degree, yeah.
	And we've got a very telling piece here from the artist.
	Let's listen to this.
	You want to play that, Samson?
	Pictures, and so there is a story behind the story.
	So there is a lot of a reason why I choose these two elements to be the new part of my painting.
	And of course, I stay on a track with fear, human fear.
	And I think I always analyse human fear not from the point of view of the victim, but always from the point of view of executor.
	Right, so she says.
	That's interesting.
	She's focusing on the point of view of the executor.
	And here's images of dead girls.
	You can see very dead eyes lying.
	For the point of view of the artist.
	Yeah.
	And yet people are enjoying it on their walls.
	Yeah.
	That's quite sick, isn't it?
	Yeah, so we've got various dead girls here with bugs crawling over them.
	I think there's a snake.
	You can't see it that well from there slithering over them, all that kind of stuff.
	Let's do a slightly deeper dive into some of her art.
	So this is, again, something where people have assumed, I can't remember what this one is.
	This is her art.
	This is her art.
	That single sentence contextualizes this in such a horrible way.
	Yes.
	And I still haven't got to the truly awful bit, right?
	Okay, so look at this image.
	What's going on here?
	So if you're watching on YouTube and we've had to blow this out, which almost certainly will, it's little girls in their underwear lined up in what might be the bottom of a swimming pool.
	It looks like an execution is about to take place.
	how red their feet are as well i know yeah they've had to march they've had their feet beaten or something like their hands and their yeah yeah um So here's the horrible bit.
	That's not a swimming pool.
	You notice the vents in the ground, the tubing and stuff?
	It's a shower, right?
	I'll tell you what it is.
	It's an abattoir.
	Oh, Jesus.
	Okay.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, right, because you see, if you go back, you can see the pipes and hoses and stuff.
	In fact, we scroll down on here.
	Jesus.
	Meat hooks.
	Meat hooks on the abattoir wall, the dead woman holding a dead baby with her ankles broken.
	That is the kind of art she produces.
	Now, again, I'm not going to beat up on the artists because she went through a civil war in her pre-teen years.
	So whatever she's doing to get this out of her system.
	But people who look at this and think, yes.
	I want that on my wall.
	I want that on my wall.
	And not only that, I'm going to have it in a prominent position in my house.
	I'm going to invite people around all the time because I'm a senior Democrat organiser.
	I know it's the chairs around, so you can sit in the back.
	In fact, let's just go back to that.
	Yeah.
	So it's set up so they can just sit there and enjoy it.
	So bizarre.
	And not only am I going to do all of this and invite other senior Democrats around to my home, which he did all the time, apparently.
	Yeah, when Washington Life want to do a puff piece on me, I'm going to say to them, make sure you get a shot of this.
	Yeah, please come and look at this.
	Look how sadistic I am.
	But yeah, these images of an abattoir, I couldn't get one of the, and you get these floor grates because you don't get those in swimming pool.
	You don't get just a great bottom of the swimming pool.
	You do get them in abattoirs, and that's what's going on in these images.
	Let's go to the artist's website, and you can see it a bit more clearly now.
	I mean, showers.
	I mean, it's strong sort of executionist.
	I mean, it's all about death and suffering and horrible things being done to people.
	Again, I don't want to psychoanalyze, but I think it's the products of somebody who's come through a horrific civil war and God knows what happened.
	Again, people being marched up in an abattoir there.
	Well, yeah, I mean, the people in white have skulls to their faces.
	They are death, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, it's not hard to see that there is some sort of trauma and there's clearly something going on here.
	But she's got lots of images like that.
	And some of them focus on little girls dead or in an abattoir.
	And there you go.
	That's the one synchronized swimming one.
	Again, you can see now that that's an abattoir, not a swimming pool.
	Living in oblivion as well.
	Presumably, that's the sort of subset of Little Girls Paradise Lost in the bottom right there.
	Yes, again, the little girls, again, I'm just going to say at this point, note the red shoes.
	Right.
	Something going on with these red shoes.
	And it's loads of stuff.
	And so if Tony Podesta really wanted a piece of art, I mean, there's a whole bunch of, there's a whole bunch in this whole kind of theme of death and industrialized death and stuff.
	But he picked out the ones which were the little girls in abattoirs to put on his wall and invite people around.
	Yeah, so I mean, I mean, it is dark stuff.
	But yeah, I've mentioned now a couple of times the red shoes.
	Red shoes crop up in this a lot.
	And I don't know the answer to what's going on here, but this is one of Tony Podesta's party.
	Where they're all wearing red shoes.
	Where they're all wearing red shoes.
	I don't know why they're wearing red shoes.
	All I know is that his favourite artist is somebody who shows little girls in abattoirs.
	And the little girls in abattoirs are wearing red shoes.
	I know that Jeffrey Epstein photo of Bill Clinton, he was wearing very prominent red shoes.
	And when he has a house party, everybody has to turn up in red shoes.
	Is it going to be connected to the Wizard of Oz in some way?
	Wasn't there red shoes in that?
	That's a very charitable interpretation.
	I'm not saying it's not weird and perverse.
	Obviously, it is, but like, is there going to be a weird and perverse interpretation of Dorothy lost in Kansas or something?
	So all I can tell you is I don't know what's going on.
	So if I found out, I'm pretty sure I'd be even more horrified than I already am.
	Did he commission some of this artwork or did he just see?
	I don't know.
	Probably not, but I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Someone that high up, that wealthy, could easily commission pieces of artwork.
	Yeah.
	And Ben, and one of the things, interesting things that came out of the Tucker interview is that apparently Tucker was his neighbor or something for years.
	Really?
	Yeah, and he said he never went around to his home.
	But this guy was entertaining constantly.
	Almost every night he would have a whole bunch of Democrats around.
	So for years, everybody who's something in Democrat politics went through his house and went to those seats, or at least saw those images of girls in abattoirs and just thought, yeah, fair enough.
	Little girls in an abattoir.
	Yeah, why not?
	What's the issue there?
	And all the little girls have got red shoes on.
	And when he says to them, yeah, by the way, I'm inviting you to dinner and you've got to turn up in red shoes.
	They'll just like, yeah, fine.
	Just be like, yeah, no worries, mate.
	What are pictures of children suffering with very dark undertones?
	From an artist who says that what she's going for is from the perspective of the executioner.
	And again, I can't claim to fully understand what is going on here.
	I think this is only scratching the surface of how dark this stuff goes.
	That is mad.
	Yeah.
	Before we move on, before we move on, then, very quickly, Samson, can you do me a favor and look up the Madeline McCann suspect profiles pictures?
	Okay.
	Because this is weird.
	Because, like, you know what Tony Podesta looks like, right?
	Oh, really?
	Where is it?
	Oh, there's been some new...
	Yeah, there was one where it looks like John and Tony Possesta.
	But I guess that's just not coming up on Google.
	This is the old one.
	You've got to do like 2025 or something.
	He went to Spain.
	I don't know.
	I'm not saying that he did.
	I'm just saying they look a lot like the photo fits.
	There we go.
	Right there in the middle.
	Just that image.
	Just click on the image, Samson.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	That doesn't look at all.
	You know, that doesn't look a million miles away from John and Tony Pohester.
	It's actually kind of weird.
	That is kind of weird.
	Yeah, it looks like them 20 years ago or whatever it was.
	Right.
	And it's like, it looks really like them as well.
	And it's like, okay, that's weird.
	But sorry, anyway.
	Okay.
	Right, right, okay.
	So we're going to have to, but we're going to need a palette cleanser.
	Yeah.
	We're going to need to bring this back because that was quite dark.
	We're going to need to bring this back.
	So I'm going to share something else in my own art collection.
	Okay.
	There we go.
	That is.
	Flashman.
	Exactly.
	You got the reference of this one.
	That's good.
	That's Flashman.
	I decided, but it wasn't.
	The image before wasn't quite doing it for me.
	So I had the artist make some modifications to it.
	I even put the wife on the Indian hard.
	She's not wild about it, I must say.
	I bet she's bloody.
	But she's always complaining that everything in my house is just images of me.
	And I thought, well, okay, well, I'll put you in.
	And she didn't bloody like that either, did she?
	Anyway.
	Can't win, mate.
	Well, actually, this one is a bit unusual for me.
	I've also got an original Pharaoh.
	Oh, yeah.
	Which is a lovely piece.
	I must get it framed.
	I haven't got around to it yet.
	It doesn't deserve blue tack.
	I will point out Alexander Adams.
	He does.
	He's very active in right-wing art and he's doing gallery shows and stuff like that.
	He's promoting basically everybody in right-wing art.
	So he's worth following if you want to get into that.
	Yeah, there you go.
	He mentions Pharaoh.
	I've got one of his.
	And actually, for me, one of the standouts in the right-wing art sphere is this chap, Fender Villa.
	He does statues.
	I want to get a Fender Villas before long.
	But we have a quick look as a palette cleanse on some of his art.
	Well, I mean, it already looks a lot more heroic.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, we go.
	That's one of his.
	Yeah.
	So he's basically men battling against adversary.
	So he's an image of huge adversary coming his way and he's just powering through it.
	Prometheus.
	Yes.
	Got to get the Bowden in there, haven't we?
	I'm sure we get some other pieces from him fairly.
	There we go.
	It looks almost Soviet-esque.
	Yeah, there's an element of that.
	That's almost, isn't it?
	An element of confidence.
	But the point I'm making is this is what right-wing art looks like.
	Yeah.
	It's heroic.
	Celebration of masculine.
	Yes.
	It's a celebration of masculinity against adversity.
	It is not aspirational.
	It's not execution of children.
	Against powerless people.
	And I think there was a pretty fundamental difference there.
	You're right.
	Yeah, right.
	We've got some of these comedy things.
	This is harrowing.
	The Engaged View says, these pieces remind me of when I read that left-wing uprisings are motivated by fear, right-wing uprisings are motivated by disgust.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I'm in the mood for an uprising after watching all that.
	Jesus Christ.
	Demons walk among us wearing human skin suits.
	When we win, we must create a system that keeps any of these creatures far away from any power.
	Well, I mean, I personally, I mean, obviously, I think that the podestas and the rest of them, there's just something really vile going on.
	You know, conspiracy theories aside.
	Right, let's go to the video comments.
	Like I said, enjoy nature.
	Until society hits you.
	Oh, yeah, the little can.
	So this is a problem.
	What am I missing?
	There's a can in the middle.
	So this is an issue that a lot of people in Britain are encountering.
	Do you remember in school, um, you were taught in school not to litter in the countryside, yeah, but also to like close the gate whenever you walked through a gate to make sure the farmers' animals didn't get out or whatever?
	Because obviously, you know, you can walk anywhere, which is actually kind of unusual.
	All of that's just gone, the country of private property, uh, but you can walk anywhere, you just have to be respectful to the land that you're on.
	And what I think that has done is inculcated a sense of possession in the land, right?
	Because I've seen a lot of people complaining about foreigners, you know, Indians, Pakistanis, whoever, who have moved here, and then they're going to these sort of like areas of the country that are like places where you go on holiday and just making a complete mess of it, yeah, and not taking care of it.
	And uh, it was Paul Joseph Watson, I think, he was like, Why is this bothering me more than them being in the cities?
	It's like because this was ours, yeah.
	It used to be a location you could have some respite from, exactly, go and enjoy it.
	And also, I think, you know, the countryside in the in the UK, in England, um, it's something which really resonates and speaks to your soul.
	Yes, so when you see people spectacularly desecrating it, it it irks you beyond belief.
	Sure, have the cities, do we not?
	I don't like the cities, but you know, not the countryside, yeah, like of all things, not the countryside.
	I think you're right, there is something genuinely like I ancient, it's ancient, but it's not just that, there's a sense of possession over it.
	Like, everyone basically feels like the countryside is an extension of their own back garden.
	Like, you just wander around, yeah, I'm just gonna go wandering the roads.
	Why?
	Because I know there are no bears or wolves out there, yeah, and the only thing I'm ever gonna meet is another Englishman on the path.
	And I'll say, Good morning, how's it going?
	Lovely dog, and then you just walk on, and it'll just be like you're walking your own back garden.
	And so, to have a bunch of foreigners suddenly intruding in our space and messing it up and making an absolute and then you know, who knows what else?
	Like, it's it's honestly one of those things that it bothers me far more deeply than I thought it would.
	Yeah, I really hate it.
	Yeah, get out of our shires.
	I just view it as a place where they just don't belong there, but that's it, they don't belong there, and that's true because we were inculcated in school as we were growing up.
	This is a collective property of everyone, you have to take care of it.
	So, then, and the next guy who comes along, he'll take care of it too.
	And so, everyone will have a lovely experience in the countryside on a lovely, warm summer's day where the birds are singing, the wind's blowing through the trees, and you know, everything's really pleasant.
	And the thing is, this is represented like this.
	This is this sort of quintessentially picture that I'm painting is really fully present in the Robin Hood tales.
	Yeah, this is where Robin Hood escapes to escape from the tyranny.
	He goes to the Greenwood, and it's always set in the summer, and it's always they're just wandering merrily, carefree through the woods in England.
	And it's exactly they describe it in exactly the way it is now.
	And then, so for a bunch of like Indians and Pakistanis and whoever else to come along and just start throwing rubbish everyone, so making a complete mess of it, it's like this is our heritage, you know.
	Get out, you do not belong here.
	It's genuinely how I feel about it.
	So, just gonna quickly sidetrack to all the people in the chat asking me if my wife is Indian, no.
	But in the fact in the Flashman novels, on his campaign, on his way out of India, he purchases an Indian hall and takes him with him on the campaign.
	And because she's portrayed my wife as that, and because she's in the image, I thought I saw an opportunity to win brownie points.
	I don't think that's yes, no, it didn't work.
	Yeah, that's the story as to why she ended up on the image.
	The question is, why you thought that was going to win you brownie points because she was complaining that she's never in any of the pictures.
	So, I've depicted you as an Indian whore.
	Well, that tried, God loves a try, yeah, but your wife, yeah, but that's what I had to work with on that particular image.
	So, you know, I thought I made the effort, you know.
	Um, just a quick uh, super chat that's come in.
	Uh, I thought here's uh, Tony Bedeta, uh, yeah, Tony Bedessa's brother or someone else, essentially, coloured stick figures of small figures being seemingly abused.
	Also, don't forget them hiring the spirit cooking lady to perform at parties.
	Yeah, there's there's a whole really degenerate and frankly evil culture in that sort of sphere.
	Like, I mean, I don't know whether the younger ones also do this, but this is definitely that sort of age bracket, the sort of you know, boomer types who've just been involved in something truly gross.
	Uh, anyway, let's let's move on to the next one.
	Everything is just fine.
	These fish fingers are a steal, price is up a sneak, just a hundred quid a meal.
	Yeah, hey, oh my god, degree, the tips from each delivery.
	Excuse me, sir, I have your tando free.
	Everything is just fine, everything is fine.
	I love these adverts.
	Well, that's a coinbase advert pointing out that Britain's shit.
	I mean, they're 100% right.
	I mean, if anything, you know, if only they were sort of singing and dancing in the streets, we've got the delivery drivers wrong, though.
	Some of them were white.
	Yeah, I saw that.
	Yeah.
	Some of them might have been in the country legally.
	You've got Kemi whatever, Badenock, commenting on this recently.
	She's trying to up her PR game, and it's just embarrassing.
	It's absolutely embarrassing.
	Oh, this is offensive and blah, blah, blah.
	Unfortunately.
	It led to the ruin, love.
	It's accurate.
	That's the problem.
	Like, it accurately represents our bloody country.
	God, I love the idea that she's going to, oh, I'm going to go on a PR game.
	It's like, yeah, but you're kind of unlikable.
	I saw she called herself an Essex girl.
	I'm not Nigerian.
	But you are, though.
	Yeah.
	You are.
	I actually made a video pointing out that she, I mean, she married a Scotsman, so she's got some tribe.
	I understand.
	She's just, she's, she's not winning.
	It's desperation and it's apparent because it's a quick heel turn.
	So I quite like the way that they do it in 13 Warriors because basically this Arab turns up and they're a bit suspicious of him, but they don't kill him.
	And he proves himself and he kind of joins the tribe.
	And I kind of like that model.
	And for women, the model would be like you say, if you marry into it, I can accept that.
	That used to be what it was.
	Yes.
	But if you get accepted into the tribe, you don't end up leading the tribe.
	There are some things that you just don't do.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, no, that's exactly right.
	And you shouldn't be trying to lead the tribe either.
	It's inappropriate.
	Anyway, Mr. H's stolen car says.
	Did you have your car stolen?
	I did actually.
	I did a segment.
	I did a segment here about it in the Crime Rates of Learning.
	I didn't see that.
	It's worth noting that the Democrats through FEMA deliberately didn't give aid to Trump supporters after Hurricane Elene.
	And now Trump plans to do something similar.
	Yeah, but the problem is, like, that just makes you.
	It's evil, right?
	And they were evil for doing it.
	And at least they there's a kind of like, at least they were doing it for what they think is the right cause for America, right?
	Now, obviously, the Democrats have got an evil agenda for America, but at least they're still like, yeah, we're going to, you know, this is the true America we're going to do.
	And, you know, we'll hurt our opponents.
	Trump's doing it for a foreign power, man.
	So it's like weird and really, really inappropriate.
	Also, you should be seen as like the father to all.
	Exactly.
	No matter what the political leanings are.
	That's what it should be.
	Yeah.
	So the like, it's just absolutely atrocious.
	I don't know why he's doing any of this.
	Baron von Warhawk says, Dan, to answer your question about why Israel can get away with so much stuff, just remember who makes up 20-25% of the billionaire population, who has four biggest media groups, who owns the world's biggest banks.
	And after that, start thinking about Epstein's connections to a certain intelligence.
	Personalized goes straight to the central banks.
	Yeah.
	And it's donors, man.
	I think AIPAC is a lot of it.
	Yeah.
	I really think it's like, because they just, we're going to give you loads of money.
	We're going to fill your pockets with good.
	I mean, spoiler, I have thought about this a bit.
	I'm just not saying it on YouTube.
	Yeah.
	Jimbo says, for all the talk about Trump being Russian copromat, he seems to have gotten his marching orders after Netanyahu visited in Washington.
	The IDF would never do such a thing, right?
	Yeah, it's so weird that Trump feels such loyalty to Israel.
	I just don't understand it.
	This is not necessary.
	And he should be calling the shots.
	And I'm surprised his ego isn't too big for him to not be calling the shots.
	If it was one guy, I could accept it, but it's every president.
	Yeah.
	Absolutely.
	George says both populist leaders turned out to be containment.
	Trump was just less obvious about it.
	My only hope is that the Patriots will outgrow charismatic figures and act on principle.
	The Epstein backlash is a perfect example.
	Yeah, the problem is the fact that we live in a democracy.
	So clip that as you like.
	The issue is.
	Normally, but it is literally that, though.
	That is in context.
	I mean, you need the charismatic populist figure to win an election.
	That's just the way democracy works.
	Charismatic, popular figures win elections, which is why Kemi Badenock will never win an election.
	She is not charismatic.
	She's not popular.
	She's just not.
	She's not likable.
	She's a charisma vacuum.
	Exactly.
	Boris is an arch traitor, but I think that he's the genuine threat to Farage.
	I mean, Starman managed to win an election.
	Yeah, but that's only because Farage came in and he swept the Tories.
	But if Boris comes back, Farage could be in serious trouble because Boris will just lie and he'll just do it in a jovial way that people like.
	It's all about likability, I'm afraid.
	James says, if the IDF keep gunning down groups of civilians waiting for food, where is the footage?
	Apparently it keeps happening, but I've never seen the footage.
	Well, I'm just reporting what they've said.
	I haven't gone looking for the footage.
	But, I mean, even if it's just allegations, you think that needs to be dealt with, right?
	You think these, I mean, you know, human rights...
	Just on an optics level, surely.
	But like Human Rights Watch aren't, you know, they're a recognized institution, right?
	And so if they're making the allegation that you're gunning down people, like, there should be a bit more.
	I mean, if it was the Garzans making those claims, I'll just again.
	If it was Mass saying, I'm like, yeah, but it's former IDF people are saying this stuff.
	So it's like, yeah.
	Jerome says starvation in Palestine is fake.
	They showed two literal skeletons in a hospital, but the people around them were all well-fed.
	Our new stations are broadcasting mass propaganda.
	Well, I don't know.
	You know, this is another reason why I didn't.
	I mean, that may also be true.
	Yeah, it might be true.
	That's the thing.
	Like, I'm not saying there's no validity to the Israeli narrative on these things either.
	It doesn't certainly refute the fact that Trump is doing some really bizarre things for Israel.
	Exactly.
	None of those things.
	And that Israel is massively overreaching as well.
	You know, it's crazy how far they're going.
	Roman Observer says, you can talk about stuff that affects the whole society, like crime, prisons, justice, even if you're not an expert.
	It's like, really?
	Well, thank you.
	I'm glad that I'm allowed because they would have it, so I can't.
	And the thing is, the thing about the appeal to expertise, the only reason they did it is just to shut you up.
	Just so they don't have to have the conversation with you.
	You don't have to accept it, actually.
	Arizona Desert Rat says biological men do not belong in a prison cell with a woman.
	This is hardly controversial.
	There have been many women in several countries who are raped by men claiming to be trans.
	Yeah, Karen White is an example of this that we use that happened a few years ago.
	But it was literally a man in a wig.
	And he was like, I'm a chick.
	Put me in the chicks.
	And then he kept molesting the women.
	Who could have been surprised?
	Jimbo says, I've never liked Farage, but his wet finger in the air is sickening.
	I agree, but it's actually really weird, though, that he's put his finger up and gone, yeah.
	So everyone's pro-trans now, right?
	It's like, no, Nigel.
	No, that was five years ago.
	Yes.
	Like, everyone's now anti-trans.
	It's so behind the curve.
	Is he just really behind on his Twitter feed?
	He's just.
	I don't know.
	I just have no idea.
	The whole thing is very bizarre.
	He carries on.
	The greatest crime in British history is happening in front of our eyes, and the Uni Party desperately don't want you to know what they've done.
	I think this is way worse than people imagine.
	And Nigel doesn't seem interested in why it's happening, just managing the aftermath, which is true.
	Nigel Farage, like, he's always leading from the rear, which is incredible, obviously, for a populist leader.
	But just, again, why this issue, Nige?
	Well, again, you know, that whole where that originated from, the soundbite of men and women's prisons, it was all to do with Britain's lawless.
	It's like, yeah, okay, why though, Nigel?
	Why is it lawless?
	What have we done to our culture?
	What's been imported?
	I don't think trans prisoners are actually number one on that list.
	Yeah, exactly.
	See what I mean.
	Gans of trannies I'm worried about getting gone by.
	It just goes to show just how disconnected from the main issues he actually is.
	It's like, well, we're talking about this instead.
	It's like, no, Nigel, you need to deport millions of people.
	I was going to say that.
	Millions.
	I'll cover this at some point.
	Yesterday, I mean, I guess we'll probably cover it on the podcast tomorrow.
	Yesterday, there was a YouGov poll that came out that showed 45% of people just want hard remigration.
	Yeah.
	Stop all incoming and just send millions home.
	And that was 45% on most extreme.
	But the thing is, if you're pro-immigration, you should cut your losses now and be like, okay, well, look, we're not going to remigrate people who have 10 years.
	Try and stem.
	Pick a number.
	But we are going to do the rest of it.
	And that would make it all go away.
	But instead, they're going to push it to the point where it is actually people who have been here and got married into the culture and all the rest of it.
	And personally, I think that's going too far.
	I do.
	Yeah.
	But I'm not on the Steve Laws position.
	Yeah.
	But they're going to push us to that point by being so instrangent or no, every rapist must stay.
	Yeah.
	And you have to pay for it.
	Yes.
	I mean, like, last year, like Kierstarmer, like last year, the numbers came out and it was over a million people they let into the country.
	That's mental.
	What are you doing?
	It's actually mental.
	The city the size of Birmingham is being let into the country.
	And no cities the size of Birmingham being made.
	And this is year on, year out.
	And then people are like, leftists are like, this is fine.
	Billionaires are making money on houses.
	You're like, how are they doing that?
	But at this point now, it's not the Boris Wave.
	It's the new normal.
	Yeah, it's a million a year.
	It's just what they do.
	It's disgusting.
	It's actually disgusting.
	Absolutely insane.
	Henry says, why do prisoners deserve to be treated with dignity by default?
	Yeah.
	Joys of human rights for murderers and rapists, forcing the country to bend over and take it again.
	Well, this is why I approve of Bacaley just being like, no, frog march them, you know, in their underwear into prison.
	And I think he's being too lenient, frankly.
	I mean, if the British public had their way, we'd have the death penalty back.
	Because the majority of the British public want the death penalty.
	100%.
	They always have.
	And then all these stupid governors are like, oh, but it's humanity and decency.
	Now, shut up.
	Shut up.
	Go join Rupert Lowe's Restore Britain.
	That's one of their policies.
	Restore the death penalty.
	It's great.
	What I like about that as well is like, you know, it's just quiet.
	And then Rupert Lowe's like, we need to kill some people.
	It's like, yeah, no, that's right.
	Axel Rudubano is still alive.
	Metal Dave says, Oh dear, that reform discussion on the trans prison issue is the most toe-curlingly awkward, evasive answer ever.
	It reminds me of when they interviewed Kitanji Brown Jackson to the Supreme Court when asked, What does a woman is?
	She's like, I'm not an expert or knowledgeable enough to answer, which is literally Farage's answer.
	It's the Supreme Court diversity hire for the Democrats.
	He's on exactly the same page.
	Well, you know, funnily enough, it turns out that Kenji Sugar Brown Jackson was not knowledgeable enough on literally everything, including the Constitution.
	Yes, so she wasn't a biologist, I guess she wasn't a lawyer either.
	No, and says, Great art, Dan.
	Is that picture also available painted on black velvet?
	That's how I picture many paintings in your country estate.
	I like this idea.
	I'm going to make a note.
	All right, Sophie says there is a Hans Christian Anderson fairy tale just called The Red Shoes.
	It ends with an angel chubbing the feet off a little girl with his sword.
	So I don't know, man.
	And like, but that's the thing, right?
	It feels like it's got some connection with a dark fairy tale, right?
	Like the Wizard of Oliver.
	I mean, there's definitely something.
	Yeah, it's.
	Yeah.
	Michael says, on the Epstein photos, this could be why Trump isn't releasing the files.
	It won't just destroy his enemies, but his friends as well, which might explain why the Biden admin didn't release it to ensure Trump's defeat.
	I'm completely convinced about that.
	I don't think there's going to be anything that compromising on Trump in there because I think that Trump and Epstein's relationship was public enough.
	Everyone knew they were friends.
	So if there was anything that directly implicated him, probably would have been out by now.
	But I think it's a bunch of people who he's friends with who are close.
	So I think the most likely thing is, yes, it implicates people on both sides.
	Yeah.
	But overwhelmingly Democrats.
	And before he came into office, he thought, I'll just take the loss of the powerful people on my side and my donors that it takes down.
	But he underestimated the sheer extent to which a national ally had their fingerprints all over it.
	Think of the number of people Epstein was pictured with on those photos.
	You think, okay, well, this could be everyone.
	Like, you know, you could be, and not just when we're just like, oh, Republicans and Democrats.
	I mean, it could be national governments around the world that are implicated in this.
	Yeah.
	I say it is.
	So, I mean, I'm not saying this of him because I don't think this is the case.
	But if somebody off the power level of like NBS or something who was in those photos was in there, it's like, are you going to really blow up your relationship with another country over this?
	And I think that's what happened.
	Yeah, I hate to say it, but I think that's probably true.
	Fuzzy Toaster says, art is one of those things that is supposed to commute a feeling or an idea.
	It can transcend beauty, but it can also plumb the depths of our depravities.
	So whilst I'm not going to say it's not art, I'll definitely say the people who identify with or made this art should be watched closely.
	I thought your take on it was actually surprisingly nuanced because I think you are right.
	When I was in university, I dated a girl who had trauma and she expressed it through her arts.
	And so, you know, I never liked her arc, so I was just like, okay, that's, you know, I luckily grew up in a very normal household.
	So I could never relate to it.
	And so when you brought that up, I was like, oh, you know, that's a good point.
	And the fact that, like, she's like, yes, from the position of the executioner, it's like, okay, that's powerful.
	The artist isn't the one enjoying it.
	The artist is going through a process, especially if it's a traumatic process.
	Tony Podesta is like, hey, look at this.
	Yeah, he's the one going million dollars.
	I'll buy that.
	No worries.
	Park a whole bunch of chairs around it.
	I'll just stick it on the wall, turn the chair around.
	Yeah, I'll watch that all day, every day.
	Like, yeah, that's weird, mate.
	That's psychotics.
	Well, that's why I showed my own art, just so the compromise of what a healthy art is.
	Yeah.
	Healthy art is pictures of myself.
	And what depravity is.
	Because it's so clear when you've got that contrast.
	Derek says, no, Dan, you can blame the artist.
	I understand someone experiencing trauma, but making art as a choice.
	Furthermore, she's painting these on commission and these can be publicly displayed.
	I don't know if these are commissioned.
	I don't know.
	They might be, I don't know.
	But even if it was some random guy painting these, I think I'd agree with you, Derek.
	But when it's somebody who was a little girl themselves in a war zone and it got really bad, I've got a bit more.
	Yeah, I can be more sympathetic.
	There's a nuance there, isn't there?
	Onar says, any shibbliff that requires child death and suffering indicates the kind of group that should be eradicated with extreme righteous prejudice.
	Well, yeah, indeed.
	And I watched Tucker's talk about it that you brought up at the beginning.
	And he mentioned how he was aware that this was all there, but never really thought about it and felt gross.
	Now he was actually contemplating it.
	It's like, yeah, I mean, I'm happy to believe that he felt gross about it, but it's like, how has this been so normalized?
	Yeah.
	In the very upper echelons of American government and politics for such a long time.
	Like, you know, this is utterly vile anyway.
	Um, Michael says, uh, yeah, art is understandable from the artist who likely saw such horrors, but the people proudly displaying it questionable at best.
	Yeah, uh, Michael says, Nate, in the time must be a sign of the apocalypse.
	You do look great today.
	This is a three-piece set.
	Come on, now, you're looking very, very good.
	Best dressed one here, I'm not gonna lie.
	And yeah, Jimbo says, Islander four has just arrived.
	That is some good turnaround.
	Oh, that's quick.
	Yeah, that's a very good turnaround.
	Happy.
	We only put them on sale a few days ago, didn't we?
	Yeah, those are like the first day.
	That's fantastic.
	It's not even a week.
	Wow, good to see.
	There are a couple of other comments that I missed.
	I will just point out: every single time we put out an Islander, we get thousands of emails after they come off sale.
	Yes.
	We tell them every time we're only going to print a limited edition and they're going to sell.
	And yet, every time people email in afterwards saying, oh, I didn't count to it.
	It's like, yeah, so trust us, guys.
	There is a limited number.
	And remember, and so I was speaking to a friend of mine the other day.
	He was like, oh, can I get some of the back issues?
	I was like, no.
	There aren't.
	Well, we actually have a stock of our own.
	But not many.
	But not many.
	And, you know, we're not going to get them reprinted for because it's not about encouraging people to buy them or something because they always sell really well.
	What it is, is each issue is a moment in time that represents the feeling of the now, right?
	Isn't this what was going on spiritually with us, you know, philosophically with us.
	And this is why it's for now.
	And, you know, get one in the future that will be for that moment in time.
	Because it's full of essays that are just really deep dives into the current zeitgeist of the time and the you know, really going picking apart a philosophical issue on an emotional level.
	And so it's like, you know, there's something more to this.
	And it's not just a magazine, right?
	It's something that's been really, really well crafted to bring about a certain kind of feeling.
	And that feeling is now and not last year or next year.
	So that's why we don't get them reprinted.
	So it's a curation.
	Yeah.
	It's emotional.
	Yeah, and each one's an artifact.
	You know, it's an artifact of where we are at the time.
	Anyway, we're out of time there.
	So thank you for joining us.
	Go and get an issue of Islander Now where you can.
	I'm very proud of my essay in that and I think you'll enjoy it.

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