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	Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the podcast The Lotusies for Friday, 1 August 2025.
	Thank God, best day of the week.
	I'm John Mastelios.
	Hello everyone.
	Dixon, and today we're going to be talking about how Ireland is just getting multiculturalism right.
	I think we can all agree on that.
	They're doing exactly what needs to be done, and they're doing it the right way.
	We're going to be talking about the secret war in Asia that nobody is talking about for some reason.
	It's like there's a war in Asia, and everyone's like, Yeah, well, this war will destroy the planet.
	Oh, okay.
	That seems relevant.
	I didn't mention that before.
	Should have led with that.
	The Tory party is collapsing around us, and strangely, it's Peter Hitchens that's diving in front going, no!
	Which is not what I expected out of Peter Hitchens, actually.
	Saving them again, even though I despise them.
	Yeah, you can only take a boomer so far, man.
	Like, you know, at the end of the day, they are still committed to the things they're committed to.
	Anyway, right, so let's begin by talking about multiculturalism in Ireland, which is going spectacularly, and the latest stabbing in Dublin has just been a model model case of how to perfectly manage the new utopia in which the Irish are living.
	It's been going great.
	But before we do that, Islander four is out.
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	Excellent, excellent issue.
	This is talking about the Felahen, which is a concept that I'll make a separate video on talking about actually.
	It's the people who are unburdened by civilization.
	Is that a cream or something?
	It is an Arabic term for the peasants of Egypt.
	And it's these people who are the ones when Howard Carter and all of the European archaeologists went over to the pyramids and started excavating them.
	We're like, oh great, we're going to start stealing some of the stuff you've excavated.
	They're the people who don't care about history at all.
	They don't see themselves on the continuity of civilization.
	They just live in the ruins of it.
	So they go, oh, who built that?
	No idea.
	Why would I care?
	Nothing to do with me.
	I'm just a peasant who works the land.
	Reminds me of that old quote about the oak door.
	Do you remember?
	Oh, what?
	Yeah, I do.
	I do remember indeed.
	It's very much like that.
	My essay in there I'm particularly proud of.
	I'm not going to spoil it, but the point is we have to view ourselelves as bearers of culture.
	We bear our civilization, we carry it with us.
	And a lot of modern people nowadays don't seem to think of themselves that way.
	And it's a real issue.
	But anyway, I will tell you more about that another time.
	Go and get it now.
	So, there was a stabbing in Ireland.
	I think we can watch this because you don't really see anything.
	I guess we'll decide afterwards whether YouTube are going to get angry about it.
	We don't get any sound there, Samson.
	Maybe we should play it from the beginning as he shouts.
	I'm going to bring a knife.
	Move it back.
	But that's about the long and short of it.
	So I'll just recap this, because we'll probably have to censor that on YouTube, to be honest.
	YouTube's very funny about Irish police beating random people.
	So anyway, as you can see, these Irish cops just walk around.
	I don't know why these people are filming.
	And this has led to sort of conspiracy theories about, well, why was this being presented to us?
	But as you can see, this chap goes up and stabs an Irish policeman from behind.
	And then he ends up getting pep sprays.
	sprayed and beaten on the floor because it didn't uh do anything significant to him i suppose at least not immediately um chap drags him to the floor and then they start beating him and he's got his arms up up.
	Why is this happening to me?
	Also, he tried to stab him at the sides.
	Yeah.
	And if that were successful, it would be fatal if he did it with force.
	It would have been very significant.
	There's always that moment where a woman tries to intervene.
	Did you notice that?
	There is.
	It's been helpful.
	Yeah.
	For some reason, where is she?
	There's a lady who decided, Oh no, we have to protect this guy who's getting beaten on the floor as if, oh, there she is.
	I don't know what she thinks she's trying to intervene for, because this guy just stabbed a car.
	Irish underdog impulse, he's like, he's on the ground getting beaten with sticks.
	He needs a hand.
	Yeah, but like, the woman has to intervene it's like oh no that guy who just stabbed a cop can't get his comeuppance in the middle of the street like this he needs help he's the victim and it's oh god i'm so sick of this attitude um but yeah he begins by yelling alo akbar when he attacks the cops so i mean i'm going to become a bit of a bigot and suggest that may come from a particular kind of community i hope you're not spreading misinformation carl because i don't want any part of that well i'm
	not spreading misinformation but a lot of people were like oh he yelled alo akbar and then stabbed a cop therefore he's an immigrant how dare you yes Yes.
	Anyway, so we've got the actual, the write-ups from the Irish Times here, right?
	So they tell us the guard, a guard is an Irish word for police, has suffered multiple stab wounds following an unprovoked knife attack.
	A man in his twenties is in custody following the incident.
	The officer was on routine patrol suffered the puncture wounds to his side.
	He was taken to hospital with non-life threatening injuries and is recovering well and is expecting to be discharged.
	So he's fine, right?
	So good.
	It wasn't anything terrible.
	It could have been much worse.
	I mean, we saw it in Germany a few, was it last year, a year before, where the guy knived a guy in the throat, a knived a police officer in the throat and he died, obviously, horrifically.
	So anyway, an incident occurred on Capel Street about 6 p.m. this is in Dublin, where two guards I responded to reports of a man armed with a large blade believed to be a kitchen knife, so average jolly Irishman.
	He is understood to be an Irish citizen having been born in the Republic.
	Well, there we go, he's an Irish citizen, he was born in the Republic, just as Irish as anyone.
	It's an average Irishman that's running around the streets with a knife yelling Allah Wakbah.
	That's what I care about, whether you've got the citizenship.
	And once you've got the piece of paper, I'm like, oh, sorry, sorry to interrupt.
	Carry on.
	I didn't mean to call him an immigrant.
	I mean, you know what?
	Yeah.
	You know, whoa.
	He has papers.
	He has a piece of how dare he has got a piece of paper that says if he stabs someone he does it in an Irish way.
	He was also born in the Republic, therefore.
	Imagine he tried to stab them, then they hit him and they say, Why are you hitting me?
	I was born here.
	Yeah.
	Excuse me, sir.
	Look at this piece of paper.
	I was born here.
	I got my magic soil ticket.
	That's that's literally the narrative they're going with on this whole thing.
	There is there is no mention of any further information about the man in this.
	He is understood to be an Irish citizen being born in the Republic.
	Well, he's just as Irish as you and me.
	The assistant commissioner for the Dublin Metropolitan Regional Region Paul Cleary said, quote, Assaults of this nature will never be accepted or tolerated.
	Our colleague has our full steadfast support, and a range of welfare services will be extended to him when he fills up to it.
	What a weird thing to say.
	Isn't that weird?
	Like it's bizarre.
	Assaults on the police will never be tolerated.
	Well, no kidding?
	Was there a group of people on one side who are like, well, I mean you're not going to do anything about it, right?
	Like did that woman who came over to try and stop them?
	Was she like, well, I mean you are you're not going to do anything?
	And they were like, no, sorry, we are not going to do.
	Obviously, you can't just assault the police and expect to get away with it.
	That's the stage right, isn't it?
	Let's be clear, this will never be acceptable or tolerated because so much else has been.
	We will accept you coming off a boat and just, you know, committing all sorts of crimes, but we will not accept this.
	This is a line for me.
	Yeah.
	But, but I love the way that the regional director is acting like people think, well, I mean, he's not going to side with the police, is he?
	He's like, no, no, we are.
	We are in this case.
	We are.
	We're going to give him the full range of services, welfare services that will be extended to him as if he were a normal man.
	Yeah.
	But now we've got a range of welfare services that we're going to extend to him.
	So we're the suffocating Denmother state that's coming down.
	And I can only assume that the reason they're acting this way is because the guy is an Irish citizen rather than being an Irishman, right?
	So the Minister for Justice, Jim O'Callahan, said he'd been briefed about the appalling attack.
	My thoughts are with the Garder as if the police don't have the job to do this.
	I wish him a full recovery, obviously.
	Attacks on our Garder are unacceptable and will never be tolerated.
	Why are you saying this?
	Why do you keep saying that?
	That's such a weird thing.
	The Deputy Prime Minister, Sam Harris, said there must be zero tolerance for such appalling acts of violence.
	Why are we using the word tolerance so much?
	What is the word tolerance coming up repeatedly in these statements for?
	It is weird.
	Did you I think you said Sam Harris but it's Simon Harris.
	I was thinking if it's Sam Harris.
	Did I say something?
	I'm not sure.
	Did the men say something?
	I don't see the idea of a really boring liberal as your prime minister lecturing you on atheism.
	That's yes, that's the Irish government, correct.
	Makes sense.
	Yeah.
	But Shin Feinlein and Mary Lou MacDonald said, There must be zero tolerance for such disgraceful behavior.
	What are we talking about?
	Tolerance?
	Why are we talking about it?
	It sounds like wolf whistling or something.
	It's like you're talking about stabbing.
	Yeah, exactly.
	They run up and stabbed a copy.
	You're like, Well, we're not going to tolerate this.
	I think we are going to extend the full range of our wellness.
	What is it?
	Nobody expects you to tolerate random attacks on the police.
	Why are you saying the word tolerance?
	That's so weird.
	Guard of Representative Association Vice President Neal Hodgkins says There is never ever an excuse to being exposed to such random acts of violence.
	The attacks being visited upon our members is shocking, and we will never accept that being assaulted is part of our job.
	You're the police.
	Violence actually is part of your job, and occasionally you will be assaulted by criminals.
	Like that actually is part of the job?
	It's crazy that we constantly have to reinvent the wheel.
	Well, yeah, but it's almost as if there is an ideology that tries to problematize this.
	Well, that's the point, isn't it?
	The ideology is trying to problematize it.
	His next sentence is, quote, more needs to be done to create a safer working environment where the risk of assault is reduced.
	So the cult of safetyism is being applied to the police themselves.
	They're actually the victims of the public, don't you know?
	Right.
	It's not about immigration or crazy people stabbing people.
	It's about, if I was a police officer, I shouldn't be in danger.
	Yeah.
	In the ways that police officers always have been that you literally sign up for.
	I'm a police officer.
	I can't deal with this.
	So they tolerate the things that they shouldn't tolerate, which is unnecessary crime people brought into the country, but they won't tolerate the one thing that they have to tolerate, which is a certain level of risk that comes with being a police officer.
	Exactly.
	And so we end up in the kind of demolition man position where the police are like, we're police officers, we're not trained for this.
	And it's just like, okay, but that's that's literally where they're going with the, I mean, it's just so weird how everything about this is so bureaucratized, ideologized, and now revolves around tolerance.
	Because of course, when they say, no, he's an Irish citizen with an Irish passport, he was born in Ireland, therefore toleration is the name of the game.
	You have to tolerate that these people are here because otherwise, well, I mean, God, you're a you're a racist.
	Can't have that.
	But this we will not tolerate.
	This.
	And he's going to get the full range of the welfare that the state gives.
	So it basically, the whole point is the cult of safetyism is very much on display here.
	Everyone must be made safe.
	Even the police from the people that they have to stop, they have to be made safe from them.
	More needs to be done to create a safer working environment where the risk of assault is reduced.
	Okay, but if you're the police, what does that mean?
	You're the guys who make the place safe by your presence.
	So if now we need to make the society itself safe for the police, that's going to do it.
	But moreover, what does that entail?
	Like, you've got to pacify society even more and render people even more harmless than they were.
	Kitchen knife, he was assaulted by the kitchen knife.
	This is where you end up in British police territory where it's like, oh yeah, we've got that butter knife off the street.
	This guy came at me.
	Amazon's the problem selling knives and stuff.
	Exactly.
	Sorry, what were you going to say, Sylvia?
	No, I was trying to understand exactly what you were saying.
	Right, okay.
	Because, yeah, so the cult of safetyism now has to protect the police from the public.
	And like you say, who's going to do that?
	like what are we thinking here here is where we see the hypocrisy of the government because they And crime is also crime against citizens and police officers who are also citizens.
	So the police, The government says on the one hand that they want to keep everyone safe and they also want to keep even the police safe from crime, but on the other hand they are pursuing these policies which are, I think, to a very large extent imposed upon them by the EU Migration Pact.
	Quite possibly.
	Anyway, let's move on to misinformation because my goodness there's a lot of right wing misinformation here.
	Misinformation surrounding an incident in Dublin yesterday in which a probation guarder was attacked has been described as concerning.
	Man was stabbed.
	That's the word.
	Man was stabbed, but it's you spreading misinformation that's concerning.
	A man in his twenties who is an Irish citizen and born in Ireland.
	Irish man from Ireland, he's totally Irish, let's get that clear.
	Just a normal Irishman yelling a lot of wagpi and stabbing a copmate.
	He remains in custody after he was arrested, so nothing to see here.
	The Assistant Garder Commissioner for the Dublin Metropolitan Region, Paul Cleary, said there was a lot of misinformation about the incident that circulated online.
	Don't worry the welfare state has got this covered.
	Now the problem is you speaking about this.
	We have some people with their own agenda trying to use incidents like this to inflame situations to their own ends.
	There is very inaccurate misinformation and disinformation.
	The worst time.
	Both kinds.
	Yeah, the combination of misinformation and disinformation.
	I mean, what, I hate these terms.
	Semantically, what is actually the difference?
	Yeah.
	It's a great question.
	I don't even know.
	I know there's malinformation that came up, which is true information that is harmful, but it's true, but miss and dis, we need someone to find that.
	So what's in it?
	It's supposed to be the case that disinformation, I think, has to do with the intention to deceive, whereas misinformation is just a mistake.
	Isn't that malinformation?
	Oh, no, it's not.
	It's the intention to use true information that's harmful.
	See, this is the issue.
	Like Ireland's kind of totalitarian bureaucratic state is not.
	is new and therefore lags slightly behind the rest of the world.
	Ah, misinformation is a mistake, so sorry.
	Misinformation is the where it's a mistake, according to the BBC and not totally reliable.
	And I suppose this is maybe genuine.
	Sorry.
	Where deliberate misinformation.
	But anyway, this was very quickly and the police would always say to people to make sure they get their information from credible media sources.
	Yeah, I mean, to be fair, you wouldn't want people thinking this man yelling Allao Akbar and stabbing a cop was a foreigner, would you?
	He's born in Ireland.
	Exactly, that's what I've been told.
	He's an Irishman.
	He's a Shamrock.
	He's as Irish as he's getting to the early stages of a football world cup.
	He's so Irish.
	Yeah.
	Mr Cleary said it's crucial that, in addition to gathering evidence to bring the offender to justice, we want to understand the motivation behind the attack.
	Well, I mean, he yelled aloud, Wagba.
	What was his real motivation, Carl?
	What were his problems?
	What about his childhood?
	You probably know.
	Probably means something different.
	He may have had ADHD.
	And also maybe we should focus on restorative justice.
	Maybe they should bring them into a table.
	Maybe you should apologize to the police officer.
	Apologize and also the police apologize for being for you.
	Sorry for being in your knife's way.
	That's a great point.
	But we've got more of the sort of the thing I want everyone to notice is the kind of officialdom that is settling itself on this, right?
	Because actually in all fairness, it's a fairly minor issue.
	It's only a minor wound.
	The guy's not, you know, not mortally wounded or anything.
	But it's the engine of officialdom that's operating here now, right?
	And so we've got the culture of safety is, no, we must do more to protect our officers.
	And then they're basically patting themselves on the back.
	Every guard who goes out on duty every day is aware of the potential risks.
	If you take this particular incident, for example, the official stab proof vest did its job.
	The official stab proof vest.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, then it's officialdom that is right.
	Never get those third party stab proof vest.
	Don't get your stab proof vest off Amazon.
	No.
	That's where you get your knives.
	Get the official one because when you get stabbed by the people we've brought in, the totally Irish people, you will want the official stab proof vest did its job.
	Maybe they're sponsoring it.
	The official sponsor of Ireland.
	It doesn't matter how many guys who say, I'll allow Agbarer and then stab you, we have in Ireland.
	The stab proof vest will protect you.
	They're official, right?
	The responding guardi were able to use the equipment made available to them to subdue the suspect immediately and detain him.
	And that went hand in hand with their training.
	The equipment works.
	The equipment's perfect.
	Everything's perfect.
	In many ways, this was a perfect training exercise.
	Mr. Cleary said, honestly, it's exactly that.
	Mr. Cleary said that as soon as the.
	call went out yesterday, the guard eye was on the scene quickly.
	The place was swarmed with guard eye in less than a minute, and that shows that guards are active and visible around the city and are able to assist so quickly.
	The system works.
	The stab vests work.
	The police are just all over the place all the time.
	Doesn't matter why we have stabby lunatics yelling alakbar.
	That's nothing to do with it.
	The police are here and we're going to make sure that everything's perfect.
	And it's not just the system, it's also the system's function.
	And when we have multiculturalism and rising tension, we have the pretext for a police state.
	Exactly.
	And that's precisely what they're saying.
	The welfare is the state is in control.
	of everything that's happening.
	Everything went perfectly because this is what you need to bring about to have multiculturalism.
	Hope you had a good stabbing.
	Did everything work according to?
	Exactly.
	It's like the good death thing, isn't it?
	Someone said, I think it was Ashley Frawley, we can't offer a good life anymore, but we can offer a good death with assisted dying.
	It's like, how was your stabbing today?
	Did the official vest work?
	It did, thank you.
	It's a minor wound.
	Were there swarms of guards?
	That's so well.
	Brilliant.
	Incredible efficiency.
	That's literally what they're saying here.
	And they're literally telling us, no, we have the best police state.
	It's working, everything's great.
	Multiculturalism is just working perfectly in Ireland.
	More vests, but the candle argument is 50 Cent was shot so many times and he is alive.
	I guess.
	But anyway, I thought we'd go to the Who Done It mystery at the end of this.
	There was a man who was charged.
	Does anyone want to guess his name?
	Probably Dave's Jones.
	No, Han, it's Ireland, so he's got to be like Michael O'Leary.
	Seamus.
	Seamus, yeah.
	Yeah, it could be something like that.
	Seamus O'Hagan.
	Yeah, it'll be something like that, won't it?
	Yeah.
	Well, it was a 23-year-old man who's appeared in court.
	His name was, quote, Abdullah Khan.
	What?
	This does sound Irish, doesn't it?
	Popular Irish name?
	Well, I'd have to see his papers.
	That's how I judge it.
	Well, I checked with the Irish Times and they said Irish citizen born.
	Oh, wow.
	Anyway, yeah, so Abdullah Khan decided he was doing that for some reason.
	Bizarrely though, his address cannot be published by order of the court.
	Because normally they tell you the region, the location that he's come from, right?
	But in this, the judge directed Mr. Khan's address not to be published and granted him free legal aid.
	So again, this is the exactly said, did you have a good stabbing, right?
	Is he literally no, no, no, okay., obviously the system is now we have to put mister Khan through the courts, but we're not going to publish his address.
	I mean, we don't want my far right going around and protesting his house or something.
	That would be outside of the system.
	We can't have that.
	And we're obviously providing him with free legal aid, in the same way that for the police we're rolling out our welfare services now.
	So everyone's had a very nice stabbing.
	The police, the system did exactly as it was supposed to do, in complete control of the entire event.
	And it's like, what am I, what am I reading here, man?
	This is awful, right?
	I mean, it's a good thing that nothing happened to them and that in that case it functioned, but I agree with you, it's the larger context here that exactly.
	That they are causing it with their policies and they are focused on micromanaging it.
	Exactly.
	And the state has just taken ownership of both sides of this issue.
	But like, yeah, no, the police, yeah, no, we're going to do everything we can to prevent that.
	And we're going to make sure that he's not harassed by people online.
	We don't want anyone being racist about this.
	This is, you know, as you would expect and the sort of thing that you should, uh, consider predicting in the future, which is why you want to get your official staff professed and make sure you're with a guard eye every moment.
	So anyway, I just find this to be remarkable and it's not the incidentident itself, obviously.
	The incident itself is probably something that you can expect on a fairly regular basis.
	But it's the joined-up nature of the bureaucratic system that has seen itself spring into action.
	Nothing's being tolerated here, apart from the presence of Mr. Khan and stabbings.
	And they've got it all in hand.
	And you can trust them to make sure that when you're stabbed, you're going to get tremendous service from the government.
	It's a win all around, really.
	I'm impressed.
	I'm impressed by the efficiency of the Irish services.
	They're doing it right, Ireland.
	They've got that tax haven.
	money and they're spending it on official stab proof vests.
	I mean, they had loads of these police around as well.
	Within a minute, they were thinking of moving them.
	The stab isn't fair in London.
	You get you get a stabbing stabbing in London.
	You won't have anywhere like this service.
	I know.
	The level of service car just where I live, I'm on my own.
	I've got my own unofficial stab proof vest.
	I've got my mate.
	You got a second rate one off Amazon that probably doesn't even work.
	I don't have any of this.
	There will come a time, I hope it won't, but it looks like if this continues, there will come a time where every TikTok video shot outside will have a much more interesting background.
	And negatively so.
	But anyway, yeah, I just found this this again, the event itself wasn't very notable, but it was just the response to it and the efficiency of the Irish system.
	If only Sadiq Khan could bring something like this about in London.
	Well, is he related to this guy?
	Probably not.
	Same name.
	Well, it's like the Asian version of Smith.
	Absolutely right, I'm so sorry.
	But yeah, probably not personally related.
	That was probably a racist question.
	Almost certainly.
	And I condemn this channel for hosting it.
	Because I should be protected.
	Condemn the guests that we have.
	I should be protected.
	We need the Irish state to come in and deal with this.
	The engagement he says, he would have been a victim of a lot worse if he'd stabbed a cop in the US.
	Well, that's the thing about the cult of safetyism, isn't it?
	It's like not only do the police have to be safe, but the victims have, sorry, the attacker has to be safe too.
	There are so many women like that.
	What is it with women not understanding the nature of violence and only understanding it when they're on the end of it?
	Well, it's because women don't really have much experience of violence when they're growing up, I think.
	Yeah, I watched a whole video on this.
	See that guy in America and he was about to spark a guy out, but his girlfriend or wife kept trying to get involved and actually grabbing his arm.
	It's like you're putting him in physical danger.
	You're making it dangerous for him now.
	Yeah.
	Well done.
	Not just String says, government's trying to create a Frankenstein society and bring it to life for it tears itself.elf apart frankenstein was the monster uh well frankenstein was the scientist wasn't he but uh but the the point being though okay yeah when it's one guy you've got a sworn police but you can't but feel that if the system is stress tested somewhat then you know maybe their stab proof vest won't be as effective as they thought uh chris says he has an open goal yet he stabbed him in the stab proof vest clearly a very clever
	engineer right there well the whole thing has got this kind of weird aspect of being something like you'd see in like the british version of the office or something there's a kind of like um alan partridgeness to it.
	Like when you go back and actually look at the if I can get that mouse.
	You go back and actually look at the thing.
	It's got this kind of Alan partridge aspect to it where the guy's like on the floor being like, oh no, please don't hit me and they're hitting him like just they're cocking him on the back of the head but on the black on his back.
	But it doesn't look like he's that hard.
	It's just all kind of like reminded me of the old Austin Powers like I'm I'm still alive down here very badly burned.
	He was like, ow please stop hitting me with sticks.
	So the whole thing is kind of comical in a way.
	I don't know.
	So I'm not surprised that yeah he stabs him in the stab proof vest and everything goes great.
	Tom says, I was worried that we were about to be engulfed by an evil police state, but it appears the police state is occupied by puffs that can steal the lunch money off.
	Yeah.
	And Scott says, surely Stelios supports the official position that nothing happened.
	Well, I mean, that's what they're going to do, right?
	That's what they're trying to do is make it so that, you know, smooth it over.
	See, this stabbing didn't really happen in the end, and we don't need to worry about it.
	Anyway, we'll leave it there.
	Sorry.
	Thank you.
	Alright, so...
	So the conflict has an immediate as well as a more wider context.
	And good thing is that the US, China and Malaysia and pressured both sides into a ceasefire and hopefully it will last.
	But there does seem to be a history of lots of rivalry there about their border conflicts.
	But before we say more about it, we have either We have Islander 4, definitely check it out.
	It's only 14.99.
	We have really great articles here and I have been told it's about culture and a particular concept called the Felahin.
	That is correct.
	That is correct.
	So The people who don't carry their culture.
	Exactly.
	I think the thing that really made me click on this was watching a stormzy video.
	I'm not even joking, right?
	Because he's in the middle of London doing his rapping and behind him a giant neoclassical and gregorian buildings and stuff like that.
	And he's there rapping about getting drugs or his woman or something.
	It's like, oh my God, you are living in the ruins of an empire you don't understand and don't care about.
	Check it out.
	I think he was rapping about Jeremy Corbyn, but oh, you're absolutely right.
	We also have an interview that was released on a website with Rob Hursov.
	I interviewed him about South Africa, farm murders, the dire economic situation, claims of white genocide, and how to reverse decline.
	Right, let's go to the Thailand versus Cambodia border conflict.
	Now, for some people, geography is not the strong card.
	So the best way to start here is by a map of Asia.
	So here we see Thailand and Cambodia are here in southeast Asia and one of the major provinces about which they are fighting is the Prayavihar province over here.
	Okay.
	It's the best one.
	And there's something.
	There's something in there.
	Here's where the rabbit hole gets very deep.
	Okay.
	There's something in there.
	There's a temple called the Prayavihar Temple, which is a well preserved Hindu temple built by the Khmer Kings.
	Look at this.
	This.
	So we're taking care of it.
	The Khmer King sounds like a basketball team.
	Sorry, carry on.
	This reminds me a lot of the Cotswolds and the door in the coswells that was used in Lord of the Rings.
	It's really great.
	So the Previhar temple is a sacred Angorian site on the border between Cambodia and Thailand, which is dedicated to the Hindu deity Shiva.
	And here is where the rabbit hole gets very deep.
	Shiva stands for the destroyer in the Hindu Trinity.
	That's true.
	So both sides want this temple.
	That's it.
	So let's talk to you about the immediate prelude.
	So in late May, there was a skirmish that lasted about ten minutes, and it led to a Cambodian soldier dying.
	So they were firing over there, Cambodian soldier died, there was a conflict.
	But then there was a very sneaky thing that Hun Sen did to the Thai Prime Minister.
	They were phoning each other in June and they were talking about the border.
	Now Hun Sen is someone who was essentially ruling Cambodia for four years now.
	He was the Prime Minister of Cambodia from nineteen eighty five to nineteen ninety three and then nineteen ninety eight to twenty twenty three.
	He started at the Khmer Rouge under Pol Pot.
	But then they say that the relationship changed a bit and then he became the good guy in some people's eyes and he ruled Cambodia for up until 2023.
	1998 to 2023, so it's like Thatcher's esque longevity is what I'm hearing.
	It's even more, isn't it?
	Yes, I'm just joking.
	Probably is, yeah.
	I think Fang was a little team.
	You may throw in little jokes of that.
	Yeah, or that's the Tony Blair of Cambodia.
	Exactly.
	That's where it all went south from there.
	Right.
	Not before.
	He was a part of the Khmer Rouge, but he was actually too many human rights legislation.
	Yeah.
	The point is he was not brother number one.
	Ah, right.
	That's the point.
	So they were talking to T the Thai Prime Minister about the border crisis and the dispute and he basically recorded it and leaked it.
	Right.
	I don't know, Bernie.
	Credibility.
	Who's going to talk to you on the phone after this?
	Yeah, yeah.
	And lots of the Thai people were outraged and that led to her suspension.
	Right.
	So she called him uncle in this.
	I checked out.
	Okay, I checked out.
	They say it's pretty usual in Southeast Asia to talk to all the people with uncle, but I, you know, the five Muslims calling each other brother, right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	The first thing I thought wasn't this, but it apparently is custom.
	Apparently it's Casameh, but that's not the issue.
	So in the phone, the phone call, Pai Tong Tong Shinawatra discusses border dispute with former Cambodian leader and calls him uncle.
	And they say here, Come on uncle, stop the dispute, stop the senseless violence.
	Right?
	And they say in the recording she can be heard criticizing a senior Thai military commander who she said just wanted to look tough, describing him as an opponent.
	Addressing Hun Sen as uncle, she adds that if there were anything he wanted to, just let me know, I'll take care of it.
	That's a bit suspicious.
	She said afterwards that she did it in order to get on his good side.
	Trying to be friendly.
	Trying to be friendly, but people were very resentful about this.
	That led to her suspension.
	So that's that wasn't particularly good.
	So what happened now?
	I'll tell you what happened in last week.
	So it started on the 24th of July.
	At some point, border patrols met.
	They started shouting at each other.
	They started shooting each other.
	Both sides accuse each other of firing the first shot.
	And then there was a sort of there were several firings from both sides., we have the Cambodians firing rocket launchers and lots of civilian targets were hit.
	There were at least 14 dead in Thailand, civilian Thailand, including an eight year old boy.
	The Cambodians hadn't released their death all up until, I think, a few days ago.
	But for a long, for many days they weren't saying how many dead Cambodians there were.
	We only had posts from the Thai army and the Thai side.
	So all of it bear that with a pinch of salt, but there does seem to be lots of firing at civilian targets here.
	We have a gas station being hit.
	You can see here they're firing at essentially civilian targets.
	The Thai use their air force.
	They hit...
	That's all the data we have access to, all the reports we have access to.
	And what we saw was that there was essentially military Thai supremacy there.
	Now, what happened was that the Thai side revoked, recall their ambassador from Cambodia.
	They also said Thai people from Cambodia to leave.
	They said also Thai people who lived close to the borders to evacuate.
	And the Cambodians also told several of the Cambodians to leave.
	So we are talking about hundreds of thousands of dispossessed.
	I've heard reports that most conservative reports says 100,000.
	I've heard up until 300,000.
	yeah, so we have here an article by the independent Thailand and Cambodia exchange fire for second day as death toll rises to 16.
	That's the second day.
	You see here civilians hiding, right?
	Yeah.
	So what happened afterwards that the main players, US, China, did nobody care about this?
	Yeah, but it's not exactly that nobody cared about it, but it's something that it was deliberately buried.
	Oh, right.
	Okay.
	Why?
	I don't know, just it felt like a good thing to say.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay.
	No, there was significant coverage of it.
	But it seems like no one wants this conflict to escalate because the US doesn't want this to escalate.
	Also, China is heavily investing in both countries.
	It has heavily invested in Cambodia.
	There have been claims of about a third of foreign investment in Cambodia being Chinese, and most infrastructure investment being of Chinese origin.
	But also, Thailand is a much bigger market, and also China wants to have a good relationship with Thailand.
	Okay.
	So, China doesn't want this to escalate.
	Also, the US doesn't want it to escalate, and they both called for a ceasefire.
	Malaysia said, I'm going to have a neutral ground for you to come here and talk it out.
	They went there and they didn't exactly honor the ceasefire, but for now it seems like the ceasefire is holding.
	I feel bad for Trump.
	He's got to go around the world saying, can any of you have a ceasefire?
	You know what I mean?
	He's got Ukraine, Russia, he's got Palestine, Israel.
	Now he's got, he must be going, Thailand and Cambodia are everywhere in war.
	Well, don't feel so bad about him, because at the end you see that he, this worked well for him.
	Oh, okay, good.
	Right, okay.
	So just, so I'm one of those ignorant people who don't know anything about Thailand and Cambodia, apart from Cambodia was ruled by a weird genocidal regime full of retards so yeah there you know there's evil evil or idiot and then there's pot pot yeah it's just crazy wearing glasses not on my watch like yeah no so that's not it and that's one of the major issues here is that the Cambodians have been historically unpredictable especially the pot regime they
	they were helped by the Viet Cong right then after a year after they got power they started having a role with them because I don't know anything about them these countries but I understand that Thailand I always viewed Thailand as a rather civilized country so like you know, kind of predictable.
	Thailand has a huge history.
	It spans centuries.
	it's I think 4.5 centuries it's Like, I remember reading something about Thailand.
	Basically, they view their king in the way we ought to view ours, except ours is terrible.
	Right.
	So this is a big conflict.
	And essentially what happened was that the conflict lies in centuries of cultural rivalry, but also colonial era treaties and contested territorial claims over the temples on the border.
	So there was the Cambodian Khmer Empire, whose heyday was from the 9th to the 15th century.
	And they built that temple over there.
	And then as the Khmer Empire declined, we had the Siamese Thai kingdom of Ayutthaya rising to power and sacking the Khmer capital of Angkor in the 15th century, seizing Western Cambodian territories and adopting Khmer cultural forms.
	And then they said that the area fell under France.
	Now, Siam was the name used for Thailand at the moment, and the name used for Cambodia at the moment was Kampu Kea.
	That's why Paul Pot named his, I think his regime, the Democratic Republic of Kampu Kea.
	Unless I'm horribly mistaken.
	Fact check me for this.
	And what happened was that after World War II, in which the Thai sided with Japan, the French influence in the region weakened.
	The Francosamese treaty, which gave the temple and the Priyavihar province to Cambodia, was seen as an old treaty on all treaties that should be revoked by the Thai.
	So the Thai constantly try to say this is our land, this is our stolen land.
	The Cambodians say this is, no, this is the remnants of the Khmer Empire.
	This is our empire.
	And what happens is that we constantly have the Cambodians appealing to the International Court of Justice in order to appeal to rule in their favor.
	And it does have a history of ruling in their favor.
	And the Thai want to solve that bilaterally with Cambodia because they have a far greater military and economy.
	So that's exactly the wider context of this conflict.
	Now, my view is that although the Khmer Empire is a very strong, the Cambodians are a bit unpredictable I don't think this has the potential of escalating into the the conflict that is going to destroy Asia I think for now., what, five, ten years, it's over?
	We never know.
	We're analysts.
	Okay.
	But the thing is, like, I love it.
	There's been a minor skirmish on the Thai Cambodian border.
	Yeah.
	Hundreds of thousands displaced.
	It's like, what?
	Yeah.
	But they also had this.
	In the period between 2008 and 2011, there was also territorial dispute and there were many casualties.
	So you see here, that was in about, you know, seventeen years ago.
	From the Cambodian side, nineteen soldiers killed, three civilians killed, and sixteen soldiers killed by from from Thailand.
	As Donald Trump threatened to annex the temple and turn it into a No, but he's the President of Peace and his calls for a ceasefire.
	And we have here people saying that he essentially has a record of average about one peace deal ceasefire per month during his six months of office.
	It's well past dawn that President Trump has been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
	What is his obsession with the Nobel Peace Prize, man?
	And the Cambodians are trolling everyone basically saying they plan to nominate Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize.
	They say he deserved it for the Abraham Accords, but he didn't get it for that.
	So now he wants it for his endless ceasefires.
	I mean, don't get me wrong, Trump has done really well in international diplomacy, right?
	But what is the obsession with the Nobel Peace Prize?
	Maybe just because a part of him is still an establishment guy, he wants the little prizes.
	I need a pat on the back.
	He does need that look, doesn't he?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Maybe just, you know, maybe he just wants the best.
	It's a tremendous prize, one of the best prizes you can get, that kind of thing, doesn't he?
	And it's also, I mean, it's like They gave it to Obama, didn't they?
	So it's like, why would you care?
	Yes, that's the problem.
	That's why he wants it.
	He wants two.
	Obama got one, I got two.
	You're thinking that's what he wants to do.
	Obama got one, therefore it's worthless, is what I would think.
	But anyway.
	But it is a good thing to show to people who are.
	It's a way of him using the argument to his base that I'm not for forever wars.
	I'm the president of peace and the Democrats are the presidents of war.
	Yeah, I mean, that's that's fair.
	I mean, Trump's always been fairly strong on that, to be honest.
	Chris says seems staged.
	I'm not sure if he's talking about probably that's for I think that's probably for my one.
	To be honest with you, a lot of people on Twitter were saying the stabbing was taken.
	So it was like, why are they recording?
	Unless he thinks Thailand versus Cambodia is staged, is it?
	Well, I mean, maybe it sounds staged.
	It's just honestly, it sounds like Everyone's But there's always to be fair.
	There's always the it's all fake people now, right?
	No matter what happens.
	And I'm always like, hang on, what's the angle?
	The Trump attack.
	The Trump attack is fake.
	Even something, there was an incident the other day where the young man got punched in a train station.
	It's always like fake.
	And I'm like, to what end?
	Why would this one?
	Because it's like ones that even, there's no, I can't see any motivation.
	Just like the flat earth conspiracy.
	So what's the payout for this?
	We're going to persuade everyone that the earth is actually round when it's actually flat.
	Nima calls them school of schizo.
	I've got friends who've gone so school of schizo.
	Everything's fake.
	You can't talk to them about anything.
	And some things definitely are fake, but not everything.
	Yeah.
	Chris says, to be fair, millions of people Millions of Brits have been displaced from their hometowns, no one really cares outside of the country.
	Well, yeah, try getting our government to give a damn about that.
	Anyway, let's move on.
	Oh, you want to do my bit?
	Cool.
	Brilliant.
	That's why I'm here.
	Yeah, of course.
	So, I've called this Hitchens tries to save the Tories again, and, or do I have to plug Island the first?
	Yeah.
	It's still on the screen.
	But before all that, guys, I've been reading this little magazine called Island there, and I have to say it's jolly good stuff, and you can pick it up.
	How do they get it, Carl?
	shop dot lotsie dot com dot That's shop dot lotsie dot com, and I highly recommend it.
	Maybe one day I'll write for it, and that one will be cheaper.
	That's Ireland, folks.
	Available while stocks last.
	While stocks last.
	Do I just click that?
	Oh, there you go.
	And now we'll move on to the segment, which is Hitchens tries to save the Tories again.
	So good old Peter Hitchens.
	And I have done a segment about him before on Lotus.
	It's back in the day in the old office, and he actually liked it.
	So hopefully he will not hate me for this one.
	Because I'm going to be balanced.
	But basically, Hitchens is back with his anti-zero seats campaign.
	Oh, okay.
	It's broken Carl's braid already.
	Nigel Farage may wipe out what's left.
	Sorry, let me get a bit of history on this, right?
	So from around the year 2000 to about 2011, the Conservative.
	Party was losing to the Labour Party culturally, morally.
	And it got to about 2010, and Peter Hitchens wrote an entire book saying, don't vote for David Cameron because he is just a Blairite, and he will completely capture the Conservative Party and ruin the entire country.
	If anything, and if David Cameron does win, we're going to have to just destroy the Conservative Party entirely.
	Yeah, called the Cameron Delusion.
	Exactly.
	I read it.
	And he also did a documentary called The Tough at the Top, also recommended.
	Yeah.
	Cameron won.
	The Tories ruined the country.
	And so you might think that Peter Hitchens would be banging the drum of zero seats.
	We must scatter the Conservative Party to the winds.
	But no, no, and it came to the election, he made the case, no, we have to stop Starmer's Labour getting in at all costs.
	So as much as I hate the Tories and as much as I was there first saying, I'm the one that hates them first before you did, I'm now saying, vote for them with your while holding your nose.
	Weirdly, that wasn't that persuasive.
	No, I mean, I understood it.
	I mean, it didn't apply to my area luckily because Labour won by double the votes that Tories and Reform put together got.
	So I was like, I wasn't in one of those seats where Hitchens could come and slap you with the ruler.
	But for some people it was like, look at what you've done.
	You brought in Starmer.
	I hope you're happy now.
	And he was furious.
	But this is this headline.
	Nigel Farage may wipe out what's left of the Tory Party, but in doing so he will destroy our last defence against the anti British left.
	My brother in Christ, the Tory Party are the anti British left.
	You can always say that.
	But he still believes in this piece that they are slightly better than the leftist coalition we'll get.
	So he says, so his whole premise is what if Nigel Farage manages to destroy the Tory Party but cannot replace it with anything better?
	And that's the quite interesting, slightly different angle.
	And he quotes Henry Hill, who if we have time I'll get into later, who wrote a very interesting piece about that in The Critic.
	So he says most of us are now sick to the back teeth of the Conservative Party, patriotic and slightly sensible in oppososition, unpatriotic, politically correct, and jaw droppingly useless in office.
	So he does acknowledge that.
	That's great, actually.
	He says, But this crumbling, rusted, gap toothed political Magino line is now all that stands between us and the terrifying forces of modern labour.
	Taxes to make your wallet shrivel and your eyes water, borrowing guaranteed to bring ruin, net zero to make that ruin worse, and of course, a complete and utter failure.
	Can it be accidental to reduce legal or illegal immigration?
	Okay, pause there.
	We know that it wasn't accidental.
	And it wasn't even failure.
	Boris Johnson was like, crank open the floodgates, I want the Financial Times to like me.
	Well, even Starmer called it a proper border's experiment.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But here we get the great Hitchens sort of imagery he carries on, not to mention a large slimy dollop of traditional labour incompetence on top, you know, terrible schools, lots of strikes, jammed, shuddering public transport, absent police, pressure cooker prisons, and the constant danger of the IMF being called in.
	You don't even get what you've paid so much for, and this is my favourite bit.
	Nobody understands better than I do that if the Tory was a person, it would deserve to be made to stand in the pillory and be pelted for many hours with bad eggs, squidgy beetroots, brussels sprouts, lots of those, expired tomatoes, and old cold porridge.
	And of course, voting for Nigel Farage's reform UK is a tempting way.
	way of subjecting it to just such enjoyable humility.
	Well, you're really selling it to me.
	I wasn't going to vote for Farage, but now I'm selling it.
	I know, he's giving, to be fair, the other case.
	Yeah.
	quite strongly.
	But he goes on to say that why we can't actually do that because the Tory Party is not a person.
	Okay, Han, before we go on, right, can we go back up a second?
	I really approve of his denigration of the Labour Party.
	Because we saw, sorry, I'll take control a second there.
	We saw Peter Kyle calling Nigel Farage a pedo the other day, right?
	Peter Kyle, the science secretary.
	Well, at least on the side of.
	Yeah, but that's essentially saying the same thing.
	Peter Kyle basically saying, Nigel Farage hearts Jimmy Savile.
	And it's like, that's ridiculous.
	But this whole general incompetence is something I really think is just so phenomenally true.
	And people dug up a tweet on Peter Kyle's Twitter feed from 2019 that I'm going to read to you verbatim because I just can't believe that these people...
	I mean, he's a member of the British government right now.
	Quotes from Peter Kyle.
	The last time I was assessed, when I was thirty my reading and comprehension comprehension age was estimated at eight years and three months Yeah, I quote tweeted it.
	He reads like an eight-year-old.
	Did you get my response to it.
	Basically he's the guy who said he's an idiot.
	For some things like word comprehension, I was in the bottom one percentile.
	Let's make him a politician.
	Yeah.
	Because the online safety bill, you know, you have to be eighteen.
	I said, I hate to tell you this, but with that reading age, we'll have to censor what you can see on the internet.
	So he won't be able to comprehend what he sees.
	Well, yeah.
	But he says he, he's got a thread here.
	I was put into remedial class with kids experiencing quite severe learning and behavioral difficulties.
	What makes you get death threats from the dyslexia lobby?
	Because I've said things.
	I criticize ADHD on GB news.
	I got like someone threatening me with like a gun emoji.
	I'm like, guys, ADHD.
	But of course, this all ties back in with the Hitchens because he says dyslexia doesn't exist.
	He says he left school without any usable qualifications but managed to get some when he was 25 when he started over and now he's in the government.
	Not exactly in op power, is it?
	Oh my god, we used to produce brilliant men and now.
	And we're ruled by them.
	I know it's quite disturbing.
	So anyway, if you wondered, I was on Crowder the other day and I was like, look, no, our politicians are effing retarded.
	I watched that.
	Yeah, and they thought I was joking.
	They thought I was joking.
	No, no, you meant literally.
	I literally meant they have the reading comprehension age of pre-teens.
	Yeah, and imagine how Hitchens feels about that.
	I mean, he's known to chat a bit about decline., I've heard.
	Talk about decline, man.
	Jesus is his favorite thing.
	So but you see, Carl, you can't punish the Tories because he says the Tory Party is not a person.
	It feels no pain, it suffers no shame or remorse.
	Use it as much as you like, and you won't, by doing so, compel it to become what you want it to be.
	On the other hand, it is the only feeble obstacle to the forces of the active idiot left, already in control of the law, the civil service, the NHS, the education system, and the BBC.
	So he's agreeing that it's feeble, but he says, unless you can be sure you have a replacement ready and to hand, it might be worth waiting till you can build something better before throwing it into the wheelie bin of history.
	Hold on a second, hold on a second.
	So this, oh my God, Mr. Hitchens, like this, it seems like the war has already lost, mate.
	They control the law, the civil service, the NHS, the education system, and the BBC.
	What ideological state apparatus do they not have control of?
	Presumably in this argument, church.
	if they won.
	Yeah, but he's saying, don't give up on the Tories because then they could come back in and recapture some of these institutions.
	I don't know.
	Yes, I know.
	I don't know, man.
	I think it's over.
	It feels like it from that sentence, but he, now there's some strange moments.
	Of course, I love Hitchens, but there's some strange moments in the piece where he tries to to pin the Southport thing on Farage in that very kind of standard lib way.
	Yeah, because he he talks about where is the part he talks about he was up a bit.
	He said, oh yeah, it's quite a lot on the Southport.
	Oh, that's the marijuana we get on to that.
	Inevitably, it was all due to marijuana.
	But yeah, he talked about Farage being, you know how Farage said the truth was being with helplessness, which it was, by the way.
	But he, he, he says, I asked at the time in these pages, is it conceivable that the suggestion of a police cover up made by a man of such standards, Farage played some role in the idiotic, shameful scenes that have erupted on our streets since then?
	I still think it's an interesting question given Farage's continued prominence in national politics.
	So he takes the stance of any kind, he's not saying Farage riots, but he's almost basically is saying.
	So that's the, I think that's something I disagree with, of course.
	And then he also, I disagree, of course, with this take on marijuana.
	Now, I certainly believe marijuana's bad and should not be smelt on every London street and should be a crime, but I don't agree with this.
	He says, from what we've learned about the South Park killer, it's plain that he's deranged, almost certainly by the marijuana use, which is frighteningly common in our schools among pupils of his age, and goes on.
	So you've got to have a Hitchens bit about marijuana, but that's kind of a digression really.
	He's on firmer ground, I think, with his attacks.
	on Farage and the kind of superficiality of the reform project and a classic Hitchens line, peer into Mr Farage's depths and you find they are superficial.
	Dive or jump into them, hoping for a refreshing dip in original thinking, and you'll break something when you hit the bottom.
	His thoughts on police crime and prison are totally impractical, and you can tell he really isn't very interesting.
	Tell us how you really feel, Pete.
	Yeah, and he's compared him to Ken Livingston in that he doesn't know how to operate in the House of Commons, but is a kind of high voltage political individual with a strong following.
	Wasn't Ken Livingston a holocaust night?
	I don't know about that, but I'm saying I don't know in case we get sued, but I generally don't know.
	I'm going to look it up.
	But he points out that Farage is brilliant at surfing the crowds, he knows what slogans connect and so on.
	Fairly standard critic of Farage, but Oh sorry, no, he made Hitler comments.
	Oh, okay.
	2016, which were apparently inaccurate, quote unquote.
	Apparently Oh, no, he he said that Hitler was a Sionist.
	Okay, phew.
	Well, please don't sue us, Ken, if you're watching.
	I know he's a big fan of the show.
	Anyway, there's another article, so I want to get on to it.
	So let's conclude.
	Hitchens concludes he may well be able to wipe out much of what is left of the Tory Party, meaning Farage, but in any voting system he will struggle to secure a majority, and if he does, he will struggle even more to make a government out of it.
	So this is the case, you know, they're just going to wipe out the Tories, but to no avail.
	So on this, I don't think Farage is going to have trouble securing a majority.
	I think he's got it.
	The various, like Farage is over thirty percent now regularly.
	And it's entirely possible that a good bit of campaigning before an election can push him to like thirty five, thirty six percent.
	So we'll.
	Yeah, I think he can win as well.
	The question of whether we'll make it what it's after is making the government out.
	Yeah, that's the key part.
	Yeah.
	And this was quite interesting.
	Annabelle Denham in the Telegraph had a similar idea.
	She said also that very similar conclusion.
	She said Farage is winning because Labour is imploding and the Conservatives are loathe.
	Yet two years from now, the picture could be very different.
	Reform may itself have descended into chaos.
	They're making policies on the spur of the moment.
	That certainly seems true.
	The suggestion we nationalize fifty percent of our water industry is just the latest example.
	And then she says, will enough voters really think reform able to form a functioning government when the current London taxi full of MPs struggle to tell a consistent story.
	So they've only got a few now and they still can't make it coherent.
	But the problem is, although this entire piece is about why Kemi should be stuck with and the Tories need to plow on with Kemi, the problem with it is the graph that says no, Farage outperforms Badenock with almost every group.
	And Farage is beating Kemi Badenock 28% to 18% overall, but also 35% to 19% male, but also beating her own female and in 18 to-34, and in 35-54, and 55 plus, and graduates, but also non-graduates, North Midlands, South London, that's all there is.
	Wales is absolutely spanking it, and even Scotland is beating it.
	So you go, what can we?
	I mean, recognizability and the brand helps in politics, and the Tory Party does have that brand, because it's the oldest party and one of the most effective parties in history.
	But I think that it's not just the Tory Party and the Reform Party and the Labour Party, it's who leads it.
	We're talking about a Badenok led Tory Party versus a Farage led Reform Party.
	And recognizability here is going to be in Farage's favor.
	Oh, you're right.
	I'm talking about this from a realistic perspective because, from my understanding, Peter Hitchens was saying before the previous elections that its reform isn't going to win, so back conservatives.
	Am I wrong?
	That was part of it, yeah.
	Yeah, but you're right, that does become harder to justify given these stats and various polls.
	How long have I got Carl?
	Because there's another good argument.
	Oh, we've got ages, man.
	We've got plenty of time.
	Okay.
	So the next.
	Just a quick thing on this though.
	It's kind of crazy when you look at the polls because Nigel Farage is regularly getting like 33, 35 percent.
	Yeah.
	Starmer's down to 25 percent.
	And then Kemi Bakenock has been on like 15 to 17, 18 percent.
	It's just like Yeah, it's Matt.
	I mean, in her, she claims she's always, she's doing this process, she's rebuilding, so she's sort of in hiding for a bit.
	But you can't really be like that with the threat of Farage, that's her big problem.
	Yeah.
	There's a very similar article, which I believe is the one that Hitchens is referencing at the beginning, and I'm sure you'll correct me in a series of tweets if it's not, but which is Who Can Rescue the Right, which comes from Henry Hill in The Critic.
	And this is actually an interesting piece because it delves into even things like elite theory, so for fans of that.
	But he says, with the Conservative Party on its knees, many people seem either to hope or expect that Reform UK will replace it as the major right wing party in British politics, yet the evidence offers scant support for the belief.
	Reform can certainly kill or at least mortally wound a conservative party if it sets its mind to it.
	Replacing it is another matter.
	So it's the same point, well, it's the same point of the Stichin's partly reference article, but it's can they actually what can they will they just finish to let the left in and not do anything themselves?
	It's slightly different angle than I've heard in a sense.
	The bare case for reform is the great right hope has two parts, both of which are anchored in the British right's most fundamental strategic weakness, a gaping talent deficit.
	So I mean that does seem like a strategic weakness.
	But hopefully don't mean us.
	But as we've already established, the left is full of retards as well.
	So I think it might just be the occracy that is true.
	It might just be British politics attracts morons.
	You need to write a rebuttal to this, Carl.
	Say the left is full of retards as well.
	It could be a good time.
	So, no, the problem is I don't know where my next bit is here.
	So he goes on to say that a consistent feature of Farage's political life is a congenital inability to allow his parties to grow bigger than he is, which I think we've all seen.
	And the reason I can't find this is I was originally, it was from a different article that I was trying to quote.
	So here we go.
	Farage's leadership instincts are those of a Macedonian king, happy at the head of a cavalry phalanx which simply follows him into whatever gap he espies in the ranks of his enemies.
	As a short term tactic, this is undeniably effective, just as it was for Alexander.
	But just as the Alexandrian Empire imploded upon the death of its founder, so too, is it impossible to imagine reforms surviving without Farage.
	I feel like you're about to correct something.
	No, I'm not about to correct.
	I want to say I think he, from my perspective, he sort of does have a point.
	Oh, yeah.
	As far as Farage's personality is concerned.
	Completely.
	To my eyes, he seems like someone who's far more interested in campaigning than actually governing.
	Yeah, it's really weird because, like, Farage is the worst at making friends.
	Like, Farage has been doing this since the late ninetieseties.
	And after thirty years of being an important and probably one of the most monumental politicians in late 20th century, early 21st century British history, Farage has like four friends.
	Oh well, yeah.
	On that point, he has this thing about the evil overlord reference.
	He says, it's a quote he got from somewhere.
	He goes, I reserve the right to execute any henchmen who appear to be a little too intelligent, powerful, or devious.
	However, if I do so, I will at some subsequent point shout, Why am I surrounded by these incompetent fools?
	So that's No doubt Farage has shouted in his Yeah.
	And on Yeah.
	And on Yeah.
	And so.
	It's gonna go Stalin where I'm a general.
	So yeah, he says whilst Farage is a master at channeling incoherent popular anger, he doesn't actually represent any substantial social force or coherent philosophy.
	That's kind of that's the interesting part.
	He represents no social block, no defined body of sentiment or opinion.
	So it's interesting, although we've just seen it, he actually is winning in all those demographics.
	What is winning?
	Just sort of Farageism, the sort of protest vote.
	Yeah, exactly, the anger.
	So, and he says points out that this means a couple of things.
	It means you're exposed both by the chill winds of elite opinion, which we've definitely seen, and the temptation to make tactical plays at the expense of any broader strategic vision.
	That is clearly the problem.
	Good examples are allowing Jemrick to outflank him on immigration.
	You turn on the universal credit for two children.
	I mean, the idea that Farage can be like, Yeah, Jemrick's definitely to the right of me on immigration.
	Why no, you say that.
	Why, yeah, why would you allow that to be the case?
	It's completely crazy.
	But where this so we'll probably all agree with that.
	But then where it gets quite interesting is he points out that the Tories have actually the same problem.
	So it's unlike the Hitchens piece.
	not saying but we'll stick with the tories he says um that they have exactly the same problems poor personnel and philosophical incoherence and these stem from the same root a withered social base yes so that is the key uh he's talking about who actually is a tory anymore because they used to have this obvious group that we just sort of the natural tories and he's saying they basically don't exist anymore and uh he blames this where's the thing the tories uh yeah might seem to have a deeper
	historically rooted philosophy but in practice the old rubrics about personal responsibility responsibility lower taxes and smaller state were not reflected in the party's actual record so they didn't actually do the tory things so that was a big problem but they've also run out of the ability to draw in new candidates.
	So he goes on to talk about Pareto's circulation of elites and you need to bring in new talent.
	The old talent has circulated out by growing old and passing away, but they've not brought in anyone new.
	And then when Kemi Bedenock, I mean, do you remember when Bedenock was campaigning for the leadership of the Tory Party?
	Yeah.
	You saw their face go, oh yeah, this is it.
	This is the one.
	And it's like, no, what she is is a brown woman who isn't a left-winger.
	Yeah, and they love that.
	They're like, she can't be attacked.
	Like, what the way Suella Bravman and Pretty Patel weren't attacked.
	Of course, she can be attacked, boomer.
	What are you morons?
	I might have told you, I was even at a party literally with Kemi there, and I was telling everyone I was Team Generic.
	Not that Generic's the B-all end all, but he would have been a better choice.
	So he says at the same time the Tories losing sight of their historical role as a sectional interest, that's the key thing, has led them to neglecting to maintain the social processes which produce Tories.
	The unsurprising consequence of which is they've not produced and not been produced and Tories support amongst younger generations has collapsed.
	So they lack the new people, they can't bring them in.
	Formal politics is a struggle for power between elites, elite theory there, and a sufficient stock of suitable people is the table stake.
	Without it, all you can do is shout.
	So they don't have anyone, basically.
	And yeah, he comes on to this key thing, reform could kill the Tories but not replace them.
	But he's also saying the Tories will have the exact same problem.
	And he says a lot of it is to do with a lack of entering into the cultural arena and that they haven't bothered developing that side, which is something we've talked about loads on the conservative side.
	I'm just trying to find the best quote of this.
	He's saying that they go into business because there's money in it, but they don't really go in to other areas like the arts.
	He says there's no shortage of money on the right.
	Hang on, there's one bit before that.
	talks about perhaps too few right wingers attempt careers in academia publishing or the arts but if so part of the reason must be a plausible expectation that they would struggle either to build any sort of career in them or pursue projects aligned to their own fashionable values.
	Well, yeah, of course.
	And he underplays this bit massively.
	He talks about how the left ends up taking over these institutions.
	Then there's this ambient moral pressure which pushes everything left.
	But to me he undersells this because it's like, of course, in any of the arts, in academia, in comedy and music, whatever it is, you completely, you're not allowed publishing, you're not allowed in any of it.
	So he slightly underplays that, but at least he makes the point.
	And lastly, he makes the point about the funding.
	Because he says there's no shortage of money on the right, but right wing donors have shown little interest in funding cultural institutions, nor right wing politicians in defunding them.
	And this is a massive problem.
	He said, Well, you get these right-wing sort of billionaires, I'll give you a tenor, but they won't.
	Well, they won't like.
	Where can I get my tenor for you?
	You don't get anything like, well, there was one that I knew, but then I alienated them with a satirical article and got black balls completely forever.
	So there's never, and they don't give enough money compared to the left.
	And Curtis Yarvin had talked about this recently in a tweet, and I can read part of it.
	He says, Conservative billionaires be like, Freedom of speech will solve it.
	We'll just have a big New England town hall, but on the internet, and reason will prevail.
	You haven't lived till you've had to nag a billionaire to pay a $5,000 research tab to some rogue graduate student, seriously.
	And he went on, and it was a fairly controversial one later, where he said they were something rich that I won't say, but yeah.
	But you get the idea.
	He's saying that they don't give out money in the same way.
	So it's pretty weird, isn't it?
	What do they do with their money?
	We know what the left does with their money.
	They spend their money on society, making it left wing.
	What's the right wing billionaire on yachts with Andrew Tate?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I just what's going on?
	Yeah, I know.
	And so I think Hill makes a convincing case there that actually the Tories are reform might replace the Tories and kill them off, but then they'll they're no good themselves.
	The Tories have all the same problems.
	They don't even have this institutional heft anymore.
	They don't represent a particular section of society, but nor do reform.
	Quite interesting.
	But of course, the obvious sort of subtext with all this is that we need to offer something else.
	And that's what Restore Britain can do.
	And I forgot to add these as sides.
	I just read the bloody thing.
	But things like Restore with Rupert Lowe, the whole point is to address this imbalance.
	Smart young people like Charlie Downs, Harrison Pitt, et al.
	They are presumably there to shape this vision and to figure out what is that section of society.
	People are incredibly angry, but he's saying that that anger is not really being harnessed as a coherent social force, even though the anger is there and it's sort of waiting.
	So that's what we're doing.
	It's waiting for representation, I agree.
	Yeah.
	But they, yeah, no, I completely've heard from people close to these things.
	The Conservative Party has basically collapsed from within and that they've lost like a lot of branches.
	There's basically no grassroots conservatives anymore.
	Their donors are drying up and it's like Yeah, the comms, this so-called monolithic CCHQ is down to two staff on comms.
	Yeah.
	I picture like an old coffee machine, a dog, like an old dog, and the Leeds HQ is shutting down.
	Yeah.
	It was all in that piece on Kemi that, yeah, they're running out of money because who's going to, who's going to fund them?
	Yeah, why would you want to?
	Who cares?
	They're like, fourth in the polls or something.
	They're like, you know and I mean, they're going to get waxed in the next election as well.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's why Hitchens says though, but you've got to vote for them anyway.
	I don't know.
	I think he's right that they're screwed, but I don't think they're savable at this point.
	It would have to be something monumental.
	No, I mean, even I wrote, to be fair to Mr. Hitchens, even I wrote a provocative piece saying, maybe I'll vote for you for the first time ever.
	It was a piece about how Farage has gone to the left of Genrick.
	Yeah.
	But even since then, I'm like, they've just fallen apart.
	They've got nothing.
	Yeah, I mean, like, what would be the point, you know?
	Right.
	But can you vote reform either?
	You know, they just keep saying all the wrong things.
	I'm not a fan of the idea of voting for reform.
	It looks like they won't need us to vote for reform, to be honest.
	They don't seem to want us, do they?
	They keep signaling against us at every opportunity.
	Those right-wingers, they can piss on.
	They may as well have a picture of you, your face is crossed out.
	I know.
	I know.
	It's like, okay, bro.
	But this is Farage's point.
	He is right that, you know, he cuts down everyone who even vaguely seems to challenge him, which has left him like the super villain being like, why am I surrounded by idiots?
	It's like, well, I wonder why.
	Anyway, let's go to the video comments.
	Thank you.
	I spent a brief time researching Friedrich, or Fritz, Rook, although most of the information about him is in German, which I can't read, or French, which I can read, but I won't on principle.
	He was an author and a poet, but he was mostly known for his political activism.
	Specifically, he was a Marxist socialist, and he both wrote and edited a number of left-wing papers across Germany, and partook in the 1918-1919 German Revolution as a Spartacist organizer.
	You might wonder why a signed book of his poetry and a biography is sitting in a house in Ohio.
	Well, Fritz Rook is my girlfriend's great-grandfather.
	Is it too harsh to tell her how much I support the 1919 Free Corps?
	That's interesting.
	Okay.
	Okay, let's go to the next one.
	But, like, Spider-Man and Dr. Octopus actually feel that the train, if the train hits you, yeah, that's going to, you're going to be like an Indian there.
	You know, you're in trouble.
	Bollywood is aggressively loud in the possibility.
	We are actually doing Spider-Man 3 after the podcast so uh tune in for that let's go to the next one AI was just a mistake.
	I'm...
	I'm just anti-AI after watching all of this.
	All right, Electric Boogaloo for the first segment says I assume they were filming because the guy was acting out prior to the stabbing.
	Maybe and I can only imagine.
	But the thing is the cops are just like walking away from him like there's no big deal so I don't know and says I find it so odd that they said the victim, the guard who was stabbed, would be offered full welfare benefits.
	Welfare.
	Does this mean they're going to provide a house for him or does it take getting stabbed to get free housing for citizens of Ireland?
	Well, I mean that would be a step up from getting told to get stuffed, which is what happens to victims over here.
	Arizona Desert Rat says, I'm curious as to how the Irish government plans on enforcing laws regarding kitchen knives.
	Are they going to start kicking in front doors to such kitchens from registered knives over two inches?
	Well, this is the point, isn't it?
	They've got nowhere to go but try and pacify society.
	But this is just the nature of what it is to be a multicultural society.
	You've got to do it.
	Yep, you've got to have a nice, safe stabbing.
	Aren't you reassured?
	Has anyone commented on the reassuring official stab vest?
	The only way there are only two scenarios in this.
	It's you either have a Leviathan state that policies the vastly incompatible.
	different groups or you have one group just destroying the others.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's all it's all Singapore, isn't it?
	It's all I always come back to Lee Kwanyu, he saw our high trust society paying for the newspaper, leaving it, all that kind of thing.
	He said, right, we could never have that.
	It's set by force and authoritarianism, so we'll have to do it.
	Once you have all these different people, authoritarianism is inevitable.
	Yeah.
	Discuss.
	I mean, he was just explicit about this.
	Yeah.
	Yes, I have a multi-ethnic state, therefore it's going to be a tyranny.
	And even, and their ethnic right now was just three major groups, far less crazy than ours.
	Yeah, far less distance between them, right?
	Yeah.
	Hector says, the woman coming in to stop the police officer tells you everything you need to know about the left and the west.
	Yeah, it's really bad.
	And it's so insufferable as well.
	It's like, look, these are police officers.
	If they're clubbing some guy on the street, there's probably a reason for it.
	She might have just been drunk.
	She looked like she was kind of like wandering about to me.
	Like, you know me?
	Maybe.
	I'm not saying drunk because she's Irish in the day in the street.
	Let's have a sandy.
	I'm not saying that at all.
	Chant says, join Stab Proof Plus.
	Every month you get one new shiny official Stab Proof STM.
	Guaranteed to block one.
	Wild Machete smoke swing from any rogue newcomer, Astro is some exceptions, stay stab free or your money back.
	Man, this is, this is, I just hate everything about the modern world that's been constructed around us.
	I hate that.
	I just hate, I mean, I say it, it's enough.
	I just hate all of it.
	It's just, it's the bureaucracy, it's the damage that's done to society, it's the fact that this is just a normal part of life.
	It's like the guy who ran that kid over the other day in Birmingham or Manchester it was, because it was someone was getting macheted or something.
	I'm like, this is going to happen, this is going to happen more often, man.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Where people are just like, you know what, I've had enough.
	But they hate that the most, don't they?
	Oh, certainly.
	It might have been Hitchens I was listening to saying that today.
	They hate that the most when you take it into your own hands.
	Because they go, Oh, no, no, no, we have a monopoly on that.
	But we're not going to do anything.
	What about that?
	You're not going to stop the robbers or the criminals, but if you do, you're in trouble.
	Where are you going to get them afterwards?
	Because he said that about the disgraceful Southport rioters or something, and it's like, Man, I didn't like that bit.
	And you're going to punish them.
	Yeah.
	Omar says, While I'm sure there's an unhealthy dose of brainwashing involved, there's almost an instinctive impulse in women to intervene in violence.
	People who don't know how to deal with violence think it ends when he's on the floor and that dishonourable men wouldn't pretend to submit.
	Yeah, exactly.
	David says, have you considered that Alar Akbar is Irish Gaelic for it's just a prank, bro?
	Well, I mean, it does sound Irish.
	White Rider says, Cambodia sounds really whiny.
	Boo-hoo, we lost territory during historical wars because we were weak.
	Why tell the UN to give it back?
	Well, I mean, I don't know anything about these things.
	I don't know anything about Cambodia.
	I think that's a correct summary.
	I don't know why Stelos didn't just say that, to be fair.
	Yeah.
	Josh says Cambodia and Thailand are fighting the 7-Eleven Wars That gas station was one of the first Civilian infrastructure hit Yeah Okay Does Cambodia have an air force?
	Right So I've seen that it technically has But it's just non-existent.
	And also their tanks are Mao's tanks.
	Right, right.
	That he sold them.
	Does the Thai have modern tanks?
	Right, right, right.
	And also modern F-16s and...
	Yeah, because Hector's pointing out, well, Thailand has an air force.
	Yeah, they do have an air force, and they bombed the...
	Michael says, we should be surprised that an English politician has a reading comprehension of an eight-year-old.
	Jeremy Corbyn barely passed out of secondary school, so it seems there's a pass of low IQ, at least in Labour.
	Okay, I'm going to look that up.
	What are Jeremy Corbyn's qualifications?
	What are his?
	What are his qualifications?
	genuinely curious about this.
	I mean, and if, He began a certificate at the North London Polytechnic in trade union studies, but left after a year without completing the course.
	If you scroll down on the signature section, probably he's gonna put an X. He's done no post school work.
	He has no degree, no practical experience.
	It sounds like Corbin.
	It is Corbin.
	I was looking at it like, Just Jeremy.
	I don't know.
	But I like the way you're like, oh yeah, that sounds like Corbin.
	Yeah, it is.
	Sorry, there were some other comments I didn't get to at all.
	Dan's video yesterday about the UK government forcing citizens to go through humiliation rituals was honestly one of the most black-pilling videos I've seen for a long time.
	Yeah, I know.
	I watched about a third of it and I was like, you know, I've just got to click off.
	This is depressing.
	But it is true.
	That's the problem.
	Scott says, anyone consider that he was secretly has a black marijuana empire and doesn't want the competition?
	No?
	So Twitter banned Gab AI account last night and banned everyone following it for spam and platform manipulation.
	I got caught up in it and would appreciate someone bringing attention to it.
	What's this?
	Well, I know Gab's been in trouble with the online...
	And didn't they say they weren't going to do stuff in Britain, but I didn't know about the AI?
	Right, okay.
	I didn't know that Gab AI had been banned.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah.
	I mean, you permanently banned an AI.
	Which is a good start i suppose but right so okay interesting uh gab ai has some uh what i guess we'll call revisionist takes on the nazis so uh 130 to 160 minimum iq bare minimum qualification to be a politician well we're not going to have very many politicians if that's the case i got a 137 on a men's wrap so i'd scrape in yeah yeah scrape in on at least on that day yeah if i'm tired it might not get it might not get out on the other days actually it's like no stock Yeah,
	it's the shapes that get me when I'm tired and the numbers.
	The public will mass buy stab vests and the government will put in a ban and public wearing stab vests in public.
	Sightings of the vest will encourage more stabbings.
	Almost a Monty Python sketch.
	Yeah, is ridiculous.
	And holiday in Cambodia takes on a very different meaning this summer.
	Anyway, Michael says, no, that's the one I read.
	Toymouth says, on Hitchens trying to save the Tories again, this is just one old moderate Marxist trying to reason with a group of moderate Marxists who are unaware that they are indeed these moderate Marxists.
	Whatever is said will not be heard for the generation gap in Marxist thought cannot be crossed.
	It can only further propagate it towards annihilation.
	No, Peter Hitchens isn't a Marxist.
	He used to be a Marxist.
	And so I think he would definitely take exception by you calling him a Marxist.
	But he is still a boomer.
	And so he views the Tories as part of the old world that he doesn't want to let go, I think.
	He would say, I understand how these people work.
	I used to be one of them, remember?
	It's a lot worse than you think.
	He always talks about it.
	Oh, it's not worse than I think, Peter.
	Yeah, yeah, but he always talks about it.
	And Starmer being a Pabloite.
	I always wonder with Starmer how influenced he is by his far left background.
	It's hard to tell, isn't it?
	Because he's all over the map.
	I just don't think he thinks.
	I think he's an idiot.
	things I've heard in universities because I was working at universities before was lecturing but the things you hear coming from leftists are just shocking yeah they
	cross your students what but they're your students some of them you have to correct no yeah yeah so a lot of people in the comments are like quoting Peter you cannot compel the Tory party to be what you want it to be well isn't that a good reason to destroy it then?
	Yes.
	is certainly that case.
	Yeah, he was saying you can't, his point there though, in context, was you can't punish it.
	So there's no point thinking you can, by punishing it, make, make, make, make, make, But what he's like in the Middle Ages, the French used to put animals on trial and then they would execute them all in jail or something.
	And this happened repeatedly.
	Like, and I mean, that's literally him being like, Well, look, you can't compel it what you want it to be because it doesn't understand.
	It's like, Okay, but that means you just kill it.
	Like when the English had like an animal that was, you know, a wolf or whatever, we'd just kill it.
	Well, it's, yes, you can't compel it to be what you want it to be.
	On the other hand, it's the only feeble obstacle to the forces of the active idiot left.
	So again, he's going with that.
	You can't, it's going to do what it wants.
	It's not going to do what you want.
	It's not conservative.
	It's crap.
	But it's still better than the left is where he always ends up.
	I think it's too late for that.
	I think it's once they followed once they followed all I was talking to David Starkey about this on a coming podcast.
	Once they followed all the everything the left was doing, which was Theresa May, Cameron, Boris in other ways soon, they've all just followed it.
	So what is so therefore, yes, there is no distinction.
	No.
	Very serious people like Starkey are now saying that.
	So, you know, what is the point of that of the Tories?
	He probably still thinks they can be changed.
	He's still a member, Starkey, but obviously Hitchens still.
	I'm shocked they haven't kicked him out, frankly.
	But the point is, how is it then that Tony Blair was able to compel the Tory Party to become what he wanted it to be?
	to be.
	Yes, and although Thatcher called Blair her best creation.
	So they were kind of in lockstep, you could say.
	Thatcher changed the game, Blair copied her, then Cameron copied him, calling himself the heir to Blair, famously.
	That's what we have.
	You talked about it, Loe is the Blairwright paradigm.
	But Blair was definitely accelerating and massively changing Thatcher's program, so that is true.
	I suppose the answer is he was just smarter about it.
	He was, he had the vision, he had the will, he had the sort of great man of history, Carlyle thing, and was just able to be more effective in doing it, right?
	So we're waiting for maybe a great man along those lines.
	So great man inverted commas, you know.
	Not that we liked what he did, but he was so effective.
	Blair definitely captured the zeitgeist and then kind of beat the conservatives with it.
	You're like the stodgy old John Major, gray.
	Everyone hates conservatives actually because you're boring and you don't want to bankrupt the country.
	It's filled with immigrants.
	It's kind of what Hill was saying in that piece, you kind of realize there is no sectional interest in the, or it's not sufficient anymore.
	The natural Tory, there's not enough of them.
	Then you had the Michael Howard Wilderness years where you're like, what's the point?
	What's the point of this lot?
	And they only came back because of Cameron who was imitating Blair.
	But I don't know, because like by 2009, like by the sort of Brown era, you could, like Tony Blair, he won an election with I can't remember how many votes it was, but then the second one he he did actually lose votes.
	Yeah.
	And Brown just scraped it.
	Right.
	Like, oh, no, sorry, Brown lost.
	Yeah, no, Brown was just handed it by.
	Yeah, Brown was handed it and then lost to the Conservatives.
	So I don't see why it was inevitable that it was Cameron that took it over, because it looked like, you know, they were kind of on the downswing.
	Inevitable versus who?
	Well, there's inevitable that the Labour Party would win, unless we became Yeah, well, the Tories just, it comes back to this talent thing.
	The Tories had a lack of talent.
	They were talking about who we're going to get.
	Is it going to be David Davis was talked about at the time.
	It was all these older sort of.
	old faces.
	And when Cameron emerged, it was like, no, no, he was too young.
	That was a received wisdom for a long time.
	He's too young.
	And then that just became, oh, that's nonsense.
	He's definitely going to be the guy.
	But it's almost, it's just a sort of talent thing, isn't it?
	Like, you know, David Betts has been talking about elite defection.
	I'm almost like, who's going to be the guy?
	Maybe it is Rupert Lowe.
	You actually need a guy.
	Although you can say what you want about this great man theory not applying and beyond that.
	You still need, oh, I think it does.
	A man or a Thatcher or a Blair.
	We still need something like that, but on our side.
	It could be lower.
	I don't know.
	I mean, I hope it's low.
	I hope it's anyone.
	The problem is that elite defection is low enough in the elite.
	He's kind of money, he's got money, but he's not really in the elite.
	So you almost, I was thinking about it the other day, who from the elite can sort of defect?
	And he was saying, Bet, there's no way Farage is the guy, and he's not really, is he?
	He's very much in, he doesn't want to defect, basically, even if he is in the elite, which is unclear as well.
	So who's it going to be?
	Is it a generic, he's not really in, is he really significant enough?
	You must need a massive figure from the elite.
	That's what we have with a, we seem to have with Johnson with Cummings, but it was a mirage.
	Yeah.
	A Johnson style figure to defect properly.
	I mean, there just isn't one around.
	I couldn't think of one.
	I was trying to think and I was coming up like Jeremy Clarkson?
	It might be Corbin, that's the terrifying fact.
	It might be Corbin and for that.
	No, no, stop reading AA's Twitter feed.
	Corbin's older than bloody God.
	You know, he's like 71 or so.
	Maybe it's some new Muslim we don't know about.
	Oh, brilliant, yeah.
	It could be.
	But they were never in the elite, so I don't know who it is.
	Who could it be?
	No, 71 percent says slightly off topic, but did you guys see mister Hitchens eloquently put Grock in its place by telling it doesn't exist?
	I did see that and I said, What happened then?
	It finally meets its match because it was Hitchens saying, You can't actually offend me, you don't exist.
	It was just this brilliant quote tweet put out of Grock.
	put that of grock it was so funny old man yelling at clowns yeah it does feel that way it was so funny like grock's like the most thorough thing about it's like until it comes up against the hitchens quote tweet then he's going i'm sorry mr hitchens you're Absolutely.
	Well, then don't use contrarian.
	If you know it's pejorative, why use it?
	It was the funniest exchange.
	We should have done a video just on that.
	It's the funniest exchange.
	I didn't see this.
	But the thing is that it's the it's the fact that Hitchens continued to argue with it.
	It's like, Yeah.
	Mate, it's a can't afraid because you'll exist.
	Checkmate Grock, and it comes back.
	It's so funny, man.
	Stop arguing with the LLM, Mr. Hitchens.
	It's just, it's not a thing.
	You are right, actually.
	You are right.
	You don't need to argue.
	It was so foolish that you used contrarian against Hitchens.itchens.
	Everyone's like, No, Gok, you don't know what you've done.
	George says, The Tories are beyond repair.
	Thinking they can be fixed is delusional at this point.
	They're responsible for the current state of the country.
	I'd rather see Labour accelerationism than the boomers being complacent under the Tories again.
	You may be unluck.
	Well, yeah.
	You may be getting exactly what you wanted there.
	I actually do think there's something substantive to this, actually.
	Because I am viewing the Conservatives as kind of like the chloroform that's been keeping us all asleep, right?
	It's like, Oh, well, the Tories are in trouble.
	We should be fine.
	It's like, No, they've been worse, if not, you know, just as bad, if not worse.
	And the fact that you use the Tories as a safety blanket is part of the problem.
	We wouldn't be in this position if we didn't have the Tory party, frankly, and we just had the insane, retarded communists who were trying to kill everyone.
	Yeah, and thinking about that Hitchens piece again in relation to what you've just said, it's absolutely true that reform is a protest vote, it's an angry protest.
	We hate these two parties and we've finally had enough, which is significant.
	Then most people think, will reform get it together and form a proper team, proper government?
	Probably not.
	But then the question is what comes after.
	And obviously Hitchens fear is a weird leftist coalition, but it also opens the door for our thing to come in as well.
	A weird rightist coalition.
	Exactly.
	So that's the hope.
	But it could easily be the Sultana party i mean the not your party but um i love that man it's not not your party you know i actually want it to be called the left yeah but i know the major issue with uh coalitions is that you have massive ego problems oh really if you have people who are uh basing their image on i am not compromising they're going to destroy any form of society they're going to be part of including parties and coalitions.
	No, it's a bit of that on both sides.
	We're going to have to try and avoid ego issues and vote for Farage is just a giant walking ego.
	Oh, I see.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I thought you meant for a second something else, but yeah, because the restore movement needs to be about policies and not people at this point, but I don't know.
	It's a good point, though.
	Is this a problem with Greek politics?
	No, I think that's a problem with human nature.
	Oh right, okay.
	No,'cause if you have It's the lesson learned from Greek politics.
	That's a problem.
	Because if, let's say, take lots of people from X now, if they say, right, okay, it's our side, let's come and form a movement or something, and all of it, all of these people have formed their image out of I'm not compromising with anything, yeah.
	Yeah, it's not going to work.
	Yeah, although the idea of the Tory Party, you might ostensibly see it as kind of the ultimate vehicle of total compromise and pragmatism.
	But the Eurosceptics were massively uncompromising to the point they just destroyed everything, you could say.
	Yeah.
	The Tories are like the only uncompromising thing the Tories are uncompromising on is compromise itself.
	So, no, we're going to bend the knee to the left.
	We're not going to do anything else.
	We're definitely bending the knee.
	So the Eurosceptic side was incredibly intransigent on Brexit.
	If you read like All Out War or something, to the point where they were like, you know, even if you're pro Brexit or anti, they Yeah.
	And they won.
	Yeah, but they won.
	So the Conservatives, if they actually stood on a principle and actually were like, no, we're going to.
	They're capable of doing it.
	They can actually win.
	I think you're talking about a massive discrepancy here because you wouldn't expect from a right-winger to cede ground to leftist politics, which is what they did.
	All the time.
	about policy and goals within a particular right, right frame.
	Within the people who are defined by saying we're not that thing because we're all about our integrity.
	And then you get this breakdown of tiny micro parties and every everyone screams each other everyone else is content.
	Does Greece have proportional representation?
	No, we have the main party that wins a bonus of plus 50 seats in the parliament because that's a good idea, by the way, because the people in the constitution who dropped who drafted it, we're saying that there's zero way the Greeks are going to come together and that's true.
	And have a majority government, so we need to boost the first party.
	Right.
	We would have to, we would have chaos all the time.
	That's interesting because we we we have a very old and boring voting system, but we, you know, so we always get a winner basically.
	It's very rare to have coalitions.
	But you saw how many votes Farage won relative to the Lib Dems.
	Yeah.

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