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	Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
	Welcome to the podcast of Lotesis for Friday, the 1st of August, 2025.
	Thank God, best day of the week.
	I'm John Mestellios Dixon, and today we're going to be talking about how Ireland is just getting multiculturalism right.
	I think we can all agree on that.
	They're doing exactly what needs to be done, and they're doing it the right way.
	We're going to be talking about the secret war in Asia that nobody is talking about for some reason.
	It's like there's a war in Asia, and everyone's like, yeah, well.
	This war will destroy the planet.
	Oh, okay.
	That seems relevant.
	You mentioned that before.
	It should have led with that.
	The Tory party is collapsing around us.
	And strangely, it's Peter Hitchens that's diving in front going, no!
	Which is not what I expected out of Peter Hitchens, actually.
	Saving them again, even though I despise them.
	Yeah, you can only take a boomer so far, man.
	Like, you know, at the end of the day, they are still committed to the things they're committed to.
	Anyway, right, so let's begin by talking about multiculturalism in Ireland, which is going spectacularly.
	And the latest stabbing in Dublin has just been a model case of how to perfectly manage the new utopia in which the Irish are living.
	It's been going great.
	But before we do that, Islander 4 is out.
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	Excellent, excellent issue.
	This is talking about the Felahin, which is a concept that I'll make a separate video on talking about, actually.
	It's the people who are unburdened by civilization.
	Is that a cream or something?
	It is an Arabic term for the peasants of Egypt.
	And it's these people who are the ones when Howard Carter and all of the European archaeologists went over to the pyramids to start excavating them.
	We're like, oh, great.
	We're going to start stealing some of the stuff you've excavated.
	They're the people who don't care about history at all.
	They don't see themselves on the continuity of civilization.
	They just live in the ruins of it.
	So they go, oh, who built that?
	No idea.
	Why would I care?
	Nothing to do with me.
	I'm just a peasant who works the land.
	Reminds me of that old quote about the oak door.
	Do you remember?
	Oh, what's wrong?
	Yeah, I do.
	I do remember indeed.
	It's very much like that.
	My essay in there, I'm particularly proud of.
	I'm not going to spoil it, but the point is, we have to view ourselves as bearers of culture.
	We bear our civilization.
	We carry it with us.
	And a lot of modern people nowadays don't seem to think of themselves that way.
	And it's a real issue.
	But anyway, I will tell you more about that another time.
	Go and get it now.
	So there was a stabbing in Ireland.
	I think we can watch this because you don't really see anything.
	I guess we'll decide afterwards whether YouTube are going to get angry about it.
	Have we not got any sound yet, Samson?
	Maybe we should play it from the beginning as he shouts.
	Put your knife down.
	Put it back.
	Get it, get it, get it.
	Fuck!
	Get the knife down!
	Get the knife down!
	that That's about the long and short of it.
	So I'll just recap this, because we'll probably have to censor that on YouTube, to be honest.
	YouTube's very funny about Irish police beating random people.
	So anyway, as you can see, these Irish cops just walking around.
	I don't know why these people are filming.
	And this has led to sort of conspiracy theories about, well, why was this being presented to us?
	But as you can see, this chap goes up and stabs an Irish policeman from behind.
	And then he ends up getting pepper sprayed and beaten on the floor because it didn't do anything significant to him, I suppose, or at least not immediately.
	Chap drags him to the floor, and then they start beating him and he's got his arms up.
	Why is this happening to me?
	Also, he tried to stab him by the sides.
	Yeah.
	And if that were successful, it would be fatal if he did it with force.
	It'd been very significant.
	There's always that moment where a woman tries to intervene.
	Did you notice that?
	There is.
	That's been helpful.
	Yeah, for some reason, where is she?
	There's a lady who decided, oh no, we have to protect this guy who's getting beaten on the floor as if, there she is.
	Well, I don't know what she thinks she's trying to intervene for because this guy just stabbed a cop.
	Irish underdog impulse is like he's on the ground getting beaten with sticks.
	He needs a hand.
	Like, the woman has to intervene.
	It's like, oh, no, that guy who just stabbed a cop can't get his comeuppance in the middle of the street like this.
	He needs help.
	He's the victim.
	And it's, oh, God, I'm so sick of this attitude.
	But yeah, he begins by yelling Alaw Akbar when he attacks the cops.
	So, I mean, I'm going to become a bit of a bigot and suggest that may come from a particular kind of community.
	I hope you're not spreading misinformation, Carl, because I don't want any part of that.
	Well, I'm not spreading misinformation.
	But a lot of people were like, oh, he yelled Alawa Akbar and then stabbed a cop.
	Therefore, he's an immigrant.
	How dare you?
	Yes.
	Anyway, so we've got the actual write-ups from the Irish Times here, right?
	So they tell us the Garda Garda has an Irish word for police, has suffered multiple stab wounds following an unprovoked knife attack.
	A man in his 20s is in custody following the incident.
	The officer who was on routine patrol suffered the puncture wounds to his side.
	He was taken to hospital with non-life-threatening injuries and is recovering well and is expecting to be discharged.
	So he's fine, right?
	So good.
	It wasn't anything terrible.
	It could have been way worse.
	I mean, we saw it in Germany a few, was it last year, the year before, where the guy knifed a guy in the throat and knifed a police officer in the throat, and he died, obviously, horrifically.
	So anyway, an incident occurred on Capel Street about 6 p.m., this in Dublin, where two Gardai responded to reports of a man armed with a large blade, believed to be a kitchen knife.
	So average, jolly Irishman.
	He's understood to be an Irish citizen, having been born in the Republic.
	Well, there we go.
	He's an Irish citizen.
	He was born in the Republic, just as Irish as anyone.
	It's an average Irishman that's running around the streets with a knife, yelling a la rakba.
	That's what I care about, whether you've got the citizenship.
	And once you've got the piece of paper, I'm like, oh, sorry, sorry to interrupt.
	Carry on.
	I didn't mean to call him an immigrant.
	I mean, you know, he has papers.
	He has a piece of paper.
	How dare he?
	He's got a piece of paper that says if he stabs someone, he does it in an Irish way.
	He was also born in the Republic, therefore.
	Imagine he tried to stab them, then they hit him, and they say, Why are you hitting me?
	I was born here.
	Yeah, excuse me, sir.
	Look at this piece of paper.
	I was born here.
	I've got my magic soil ticket.
	That's literally the narrative they're going with on this whole thing.
	There is no mention of any further information about the man in this.
	He is understood to be an Irish citizen being born in the Republic.
	Well, it's just as Irish as you and me.
	The Assistant Commissioner for the Dublin Metropolitan Region, Paul Cleary, said, quote, assaults of this nature will never be accepted or tolerated.
	Our colleague has our full, steadfast support, and a range of welfare services will be extended to him when he fills up to it.
	What a weird thing to say.
	Isn't that weird?
	That's bizarre.
	Assaults on the police will never be tolerated.
	Well, no kidding.
	Was there a group of people on one side who are like, well, I mean, you're not going to do anything about it, right?
	Like, did that woman who came over to try and stop them?
	Was she like, well, I mean, you're not going to do anything.
	And they were like, no, sorry, we are not going to do it.
	Obviously, you can't just assault the police and expect to get away with it.
	That's the stage right, isn't it?
	Let's be clear.
	This will never be acceptable or tolerated because so much else has been.
	We will accept you coming off a boat and just, you know, committing all sorts of crimes, but we will not accept this.
	This is a line for me.
	But I love the way that the regional director is acting.
	Like, people think, well, I mean, he's not going to side with the police, is he?
	It's like, no, no, we are.
	We are.
	In this case, we are.
	We're going to give him the full range of services, welfare services that will be extended to him.
	As if he were a normal man.
	But now we've got a range of welfare services that we're going to extend to.
	So with the smothering Denmother state that's coming down.
	And I can only assume that the reason they're acting this way is because the guy is an Irish citizen rather than being an Irishman, right?
	So the Minister for Justice, Jim O'Callaghan, said he'd been briefed about the appalling attack.
	My thoughts are with the Garda as if the police don't have the job to do this.
	I wish him before recovery, obviously.
	Attacks on our Garda are unacceptable and will never be tolerated.
	Why are you saying this?
	Why do you keep saying that?
	That's such a weird thing.
	The Deputy Prime Minister Sam Harris said there must be zero tolerance for such appalling acts of violence.
	Why are we using the word tolerance so much?
	What is the word tolerance coming up repeatedly in these statements for?
	It is weird.
	I think you said Sam Harris, but it's Simon Harris.
	I was thinking if it's Sam Harris.
	Did I say something?
	I'm not sure.
	I meant to say something.
	That's the idea of a really boring liberal prime minister lecturing you on atheism.
	Yes, that's the Irish government.
	Correct.
	Makes sense.
	Yeah.
	But Shinn Fei, the Mary Lou McDonald, said there must be zero tolerance for such disgraceful behaviour.
	What are we talking about?
	Tolerance.
	Sounds like wolf whistling or something.
	It's like, you're talking about stabbing.
	Yeah, exactly.
	They run up and stabbed a cop.
	He's like, well, we're not going to tolerate this.
	I think we are going to extend the full range of our wealth.
	Nobody expects you to tolerate random attacks on the police.
	Why are you saying the word tolerance?
	That is so weird.
	Garda Representative Association Vice President Neil Hodgkin says, there is never ever an excuse to being exposed to such random acts of violence.
	The attacks being visited upon our members is shocking.
	And we will never accept that being assaulted is part of our job.
	You're the police.
	Violence actually is part of your job.
	And occasionally you will be assaulted by criminals.
	That actually is part of the job.
	It's crazy that we constantly have to reinvent the wheel.
	Well, yeah.
	You discover fire.
	Well, that's the point, isn't it?
	The ideology is trying to problematise it.
	Because his next sentence is, quote, more needs to be done to create a safer working environment where the risk of assault is reduced.
	So the cult of safetyism is being applied to the police themselves.
	They're actually the victims of the public, don't you know?
	Right.
	It's not about immigration or crazy people stabbing people.
	It's about if as a police officer, I shouldn't be in danger.
	Yeah.
	In the ways that police officers always have been, that you literally sign up for.
	I'm a police officer.
	I can't deal with this.
	So they tolerate the things that they shouldn't tolerate, which is unnecessary crime people brought into the country, but they won't tolerate the one thing that they have to tolerate, which is a certain level of risk that comes with being a police officer.
	Exactly.
	And so we end up in the kind of demolition man position where the police are like, we're police officers.
	we're not trained for this.
	And it's just like, okay, but that's, that's literally where they're going with the episode.
	Because, of course, when they say, no, he's an Irish citizen with an Irish passport, he was born in Ireland.
	Therefore, toleration is the name of the game.
	You have to tolerate that these people are here, because otherwise...
	Can't have that.
	But this we will not tolerate.
	This.
	And he's going to get the full range of the welfare that the state gives.
	So basically, the whole point is the cult of safetyism is very much on display here.
	Everyone must be made safe.
	Even the police from the people that they have to stop.
	They have to be made safe from them.
	More needs to be done to create a safer working environment where the risk of assault is reduced.
	Okay, but if you're the police, what does that mean?
	You're the guys who make the place safe by your presence.
	So if now we need to make the society itself safe for the police, but moreover, what does that entail?
	Like, you've got to pacify society even more and render people even more harmless than they were.
	Kitchen knife, he was assaulted by the kitchen knife.
	This is where you end up in British police territory, where it's like, oh, yeah, we've got that butter knife off the street.
	This guy came up with the state.
	Amazon's the problem.
	Yes.
	Selling knives and stuff.
	Exactly.
	Sorry, what were you going to say, Selius?
	No, No, I was trying to understand exactly what you were saying.
	Right, okay.
	Because, yeah, so the culti-safetyism, the cult of safetyism now has to protect the police from the public.
	And like you say, who's going to do that?
	Like, what are we thinking here?
	Here is where we see the hypocrisy of the government because they're pursuing policies that are known to increase the likelihood of crime.
	And crime is also crime against citizens and police officers who are also citizens.
	So the police, the government says on the one hand that they want to keep everyone safe and they also want to keep even the police safe from crime.
	But on the other hand, they are pursuing these policies which are, I think, to a very large extent imposed upon them by the EU Migration Pact.
	Quite possibly.
	Anyway, let's move on to misinformation.
	Because, my goodness, there was a lot of right-wing misinformation here.
	Misinformation surrounding an incident in Dublin yesterday in which a probation guarder was attacked has been described as concerning man was stabbed.
	That's the word.
	Man was stabbed, but it's you spreading misinformation that's concerning.
	A man in his 20s who is an Irish citizen and born in Ireland.
	Irish man from Ireland, he's totally Irish.
	Let's get that clear.
	It's just a normal Irishman yelling Alaha Akbar and stabbing a cop mate.
	He remains in custody after he was arrested.
	So nothing to see here.
	The assistant Garda Commissioner for the Dublin Metropolitan Region, Paul Cleary, said there was a lot of misinformation about the incident that circulated online.
	Don't worry, the welfare state has got this covered.
	Now the problem is you speaking about this.
	We have some people with their own agenda trying to use incidents like this to inflame situations for their own ends.
	There is very inaccurate misinformation and disinformation.
	The worst type.
	Both kinds.
	Yeah, the combination of misinformation and disinformation.
	I mean, what?
	I hate these terms.
	Semantically, what is actually the difference?
	It's a great question.
	I don't even know.
	I know there's malinformation which came up, which is true information that it's harmful, but it's true.
	But miss and this, we need someone to check that.
	So what's supposed to be the case that disinformation, I think, has to do with the intention to deceive, whereas misinformation is just a mistake.
	Isn't that malinformation?
	Oh, no, it's not.
	It's the intent to use true information that's harmful.
	See, this is the issue.
	Like, Ireland's sort of totalitarian bureaucratic state is new and therefore lags slightly behind the rest of the world.
	Ah, misinformation is a mistake.
	So sorry.
	Misinformation is a mistake, according to the BBC.
	And it's totally reliable.
	And I suppose this is maybe genuine.
	Sorry, deliberate misinformation.
	But anyway, this was very quickly.
	And the police would always say to people to make sure they get their information from credible media sources.
	Yeah, I mean, to be fair, you wouldn't want people thinking this man yelling Alaw Akbar and stabbing a cop was a foreigner, would you?
	He was born in Ireland.
	Exactly.
	That's what I've been told.
	He's an Irishman rock.
	He's as Irish as it's as Irish as getting to the early stages of a Football World Cup.
	He's so Irish.
	Yep.
	Mr. Cleary said it's crucial that in addition to gathering evidence to bring the offender to justice, we want to understand the motivation behind the attack.
	Well, I mean, he yelled a lot akbar.
	What was his real motivation, Carl?
	What were his problems?
	What about his childhood?
	You probably know.
	Probably means something different.
	He may have had ADHD.
	And also, maybe we should focus on restorative justice.
	Maybe they should bring them into a table.
	Maybe you should apologise to the police officer.
	Apologise.
	And also the police apologize for being in the middle.
	Sorry for being in your knife's way.
	That's a great point.
	But we've got more of the sort of.
	The thing I want everyone to notice is the kind of officialdom that is settling itself on this, right?
	Because actually, in all fairness, there's a fairly minor issue.
	It's only a minor wound.
	The guy's not, you know, not mortally wounded or anything.
	But it's the engine of officialdom that's operating here now, right?
	And so we've got the cult of safety isn't.
	No, we must do more to protect our officers.
	And then they're basically patting themselves on the back.
	Every guarder going out on duty every day is aware of the potential risks.
	If you take this particular incident, for example, the official stab-proof vest did its job.
	The official stab-proof vest.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, then it's officialdom that is responsible.
	You never get those third-party stab-proof vests.
	Don't get your stab-proof vest off Amazon.
	No.
	That's where you get your knives.
	Get the official one because when you get stabbed by the people we've brought in, totally Irish people.
	You will want the official.
	The official stab-proof vest did its job.
	Maybe they're sponsoring it.
	The official sponsor of Ireland.
	It doesn't matter how many guys who say Allah Akbar and then stab you we have in Ireland.
	The stab-proof vest will provide you.
	They're official, right?
	The responding Gardai were able to use the equipment made available to them to subdue the suspect immediately and detain him.
	And that went hand in hand with their training.
	The equipment works.
	The equipment's perfect.
	Everything's perfect.
	In many ways, this was a perfect training exercise.
	Mr. Cleary said, honestly, it's exactly that.
	Mr. Cleary said that as soon as the call went out yesterday, the Gardai were on the scene quickly.
	The place was swarmed with Gardai in less than a minute.
	And that shows that guards are active and visible around the city and are able to assist so quickly.
	The system works.
	The stab vests work.
	The police are just all over the place all the time.
	Doesn't matter why we have stabby lunatics yelling aloha.
	That's nothing to do with it.
	The police are here and we're going to make sure that everything's perfect.
	And it's not just the system, it's also the system's function.
	And when we have multiculturalism and rising tension, we have the pretext, the pretext for a police state.
	Exactly.
	And that's precisely what they're saying.
	Welfare is the state is in control of everything that's happening.
	Everything went perfectly because this is what you need to bring about to have multiculturalism.
	Hope you had a good stabbing.
	Did everything work according to exactly?
	It's like the good death thing, isn't it?
	Someone said, I think it was Ashley Frawley said, we can't offer a good life anymore, but we can offer a good death with assisted dying.
	It's like, how was your stabbing today?
	Did the official vest work?
	It did.
	Thank you.
	Yes, it's minor wounds.
	Were there swarms of Gardai that so well?
	Yeah, brilliant.
	Incredible efficiency.
	This is literally what they're saying here.
	And they're literally telling us, no, we have the best police state.
	It's working.
	Everything's great.
	Multiculturalism is just working perfectly in Ireland.
	More vests.
	But the counter-argument is 50 Cent was shot so many times and he is alive.
	I guess.
	But anyway, I thought we'd go to the whodunit mystery at the end of this.
	There was a man who was charged.
	Does anyone want to guess his name?
	Probably Dave Jones.
	No, Hannah, it's Island.
	So he's got something like Michael O'Neill.
	Colonel O'Leary or something.
	Seamus.
	Seamus, yeah.
	Yeah, it could be something like that.
	Seamus O'Hagan.
	Yeah, it'll be something like that, won't it?
	Yeah.
	Well, it was a 23-year-old man who's appeared in court.
	His name was, quote, Abdullah Khan.
	What?
	This does.
	This does sound Irish, doesn't it?
	Popular Irish name?
	Well, I'd have to see his papers.
	That's how I judge it.
	Well, I checked with the Irish Times and they said, Irish citizen, born.
	Oh, wow.
	Anyway, yeah, so Abdullah Khan decided he was doing that for some reason.
	Bizarrely, though, his address cannot be published by order of the court.
	Because normally they tell you the region, the location that he's come from, right?
	But in this, the judge directed Mr. Khan's address not to be published and granted him free legal aid.
	So again, this is the exactly said, did you have a good stabbing, right?
	No, no, no.
	Okay, obviously the system is.
	Now we have to put Mr. Khan through the courts, but we're not going to publish his address.
	I mean, we don't want my far right going around and protesting his house or something.
	That would be outside of the system.
	We can't have that.
	And we're obviously providing him with free legal aid in the same way that for the police, we're rolling out our welfare services now.
	So everyone's had a very nice stabbing.
	The system did exactly as it was supposed to do, in complete control of the entire event.
	It's like, what am I reading here, man?
	This is awful, right?
	I think it's a good thing that nothing happened to them and that in that case it functioned.
	But I agree with you.
	It's the larger context here that the issue that they are causing it with their policies and they are focused on micromanaging it.
	Exactly.
	And the state has just taken ownership of both sides of this issue.
	But like, yeah, no, the police, yeah, no, we're going to do everything we can to prevent that.
	And we're going to make sure that he's not harassed by people online.
	We don't want anyone being racist about this.
	This is, you know, as you would expect.
	And the sort of thing that you should consider predicting in the future, which is why you want to get your official stab professed and make sure you're with a guard eye every moment.
	So anyway, I just find this to be remarkable.
	And it's not the incident itself, obviously.
	The incident itself is probably something that you can expect on a fairly regular basis.
	But it's the joined-up nature of the bureaucratic system that has seen itself spring into action.
	Nothing's being tolerated here, apart from the presence of Mr. Khan and stabbings.
	And they've got it all in hand.
	And you can trust them to make sure that when you're stabbed, you're going to get tremendous service from the government.
	It's a win all around, really.
	I'm impressed.
	I'm impressed by the efficiency of the Irish services.
	They're doing all right, Ireland.
	They've got that tax tax haven money, and they're spending it on official stab-proof vests.
	I mean, they had loads of these police around as well.
	Within a minute.
	The rear received.
	Look at them moving there.
	The stab proofs.
	It's fair in London.
	You get a stabbing in London.
	You won't have anywhere like this service.
	I know.
	The level of service, Carl.
	Just where I live.
	I'm on my own.
	I've got my own unofficial stab-proof vest.
	I've got my mate.
	I've got a second-rate one off Amazon that probably doesn't even work.
	I don't have any of this.
	There will come a time.
	I hope it won't, but it looks like if this continues, there will come a time where every TikTok video shot outside is going to have a much more interesting background.
	And negatively so.
	But anyway, yeah, I just found this.
	Again, the event itself wasn't very noteworthy, but it was just the response to it and the efficiency of the Irish system.
	If only Sadiq Khan could bring something like this about in London.
	Well, is he related to this guy?
	Probably not.
	Same name.
	It's like the Asian version of Smith.
	Absolutely right.
	I'm so sorry.
	But probably not personally related.
	That was probably a racist question.
	Almost certainly.
	And I condemn this channel for hosting it.
	Because I should be protected.
	Condemn the guests that we have.
	I should be protected.
	We need the Irish state to come in and deal with this.
	The engagement says, he would have been a victim of a lot worse if he'd stabbed a cop in the US.
	Well, that's the thing about the cult of safetyism, isn't it?
	It's like, not only do the police have to be safe, but the victims have.
	Sorry, the attacker has to be safe too.
	There are so many women like that.
	What is it with women not understanding the nature of violence and only understanding it when they're on the end of it?
	Well, it's because women don't really have much experience of violence when they're growing up, I think.
	Yeah, I watched the whole video on this.
	See that guy in America and he was about to spark a guy out, but his girlfriend or wife kept trying to get involved and actually grabbing his arm.
	And it's like you're putting him in physical danger.
	You're making it dangerous for him now.
	Yeah.
	Well done.
	Not just string says government's trying to create a Frankenstein society and bring it to life before it tears itself apart.
	Frankenstein was the monster.
	Well, Frankenstein was the scientist, wasn't he?
	Maybe he's making a joke about that.
	Yeah.
	But the point being, though, okay, yeah, when it's one guy, you've got a sworn police.
	But you can't but feel that if the system is stress tested somewhat, then maybe their stab proof vest won't be as effective as they thought.
	Chris says he has an open goal yet.
	He stabbed him in the stab-proof vest.
	Clearly a very clever engineer right there.
	Well, the whole thing has got this kind of weird aspect of being something like you'd see in the British version of the office or something.
	There's a kind of like Alan Partridgeness to it.
	Like when you go back and actually look at the, if I can get the mouse.
	You go back and actually look at the thing.
	It's got this kind of Alan Partridge aspect to it where the guy's like on the floor being like, oh no, please don't hit me.
	And they're hitting him like just they're clocking him on the back of the head, but on the black on his back.
	It doesn't look like it's that hard.
	It's just all kind of like...
	Like, I'm still alive down here.
	Very badly burnt.
	He was like, ow, please stop hitting me with sticks.
	So the whole thing is kind of comical in a way.
	I don't know.
	So I'm not surprised that, yeah, he stabs him in the stab-proof vest and everything goes great.
	Tom says, I was worried that we were about to be engulfed by an evil police state, but it appears the police state is occupied by buffs that can steal the lunch.
	You can steal the lunch money off.
	Yeah.
	And Scott says, surely Stellios supports the official position that nothing happened.
	Well, I mean, that's what they're going to do, right?
	That's what they're trying to do is make it So that you know, smooth it over.
	See, this stabbing didn't really happen in the end, and we don't need to worry about it.
	Anyway, we'll leave it there.
	Sorry, thank you.
	Right.
	So last week, the territorial disputes between Thailand and Cambodia escalated into an armed conflict with at least 38 people dead and hundreds of thousands of dispossessed.
	So the conflict has an immediate as well as a more wider context.
	Yeah.
	And good thing is that the US, China, and Malaysia pressured both sides into a ceasefire.
	And hopefully it will last.
	But there does seem to be a history of lots of rivalry there about their border conflicts.
	But before we say more about it, we have Island the Four.
	Definitely check it out.
	It's only 1499.
	We have really great articles here.
	And I have been told it's about culture and a particular concept called the Felahin.
	That is correct.
	That is correct.
	The people who don't carry their culture.
	Exactly.
	I think the thing that really made me click on this was watching a Stormzy video.
	I'm not even joking, right?
	Because he's in the middle of London doing his rapping and behind him a giant neoclassical and Gregorian buildings and stuff like that.
	And he's there rapping about getting drugs or his woman or something.
	It's like, oh my god, you are living in the ruins of an empire you don't understand and don't care about.
	Check it out.
	I think he was rapping about Jeremy Corbyn, but other than that, you're absolutely right.
	We also have an interview that was released on a website with Rob Hersov.
	I interviewed him about South Africa, farm murders, the dire economic situation, claims of white genocide, and how to reverse decline.
	Right, let's go to the Thailand versus Cambodia border conflict.
	Now, for some people, geography is not the strong card.
	So the best way to start here is by a map of Asia.
	So here we see Thailand and Cambodia are here in Southeast Asia.
	And one of the major provinces about which they are fighting is the Preyavihar province over here.
	Okay.
	It's the best one.
	And there's something about these guys.
	There's something in there.
	Here's where the rabbit hole gets very deep.
	Okay.
	There's something in there.
	There's a temple called the Preyavihar Temple, which is a well-preserved Hindu temple built by the Khmer kings.
	Look at this.
	This taking care of it.
	Khmer King sounds like a basketball team.
	Sorry, carry on.
	This reminds me a lot of the Cotswolds and the door in the Cotswolds that was used in Lord of the Rings.
	It's really great.
	So the Previhar Temple is a sacred Angorian site on the border between Cambodia and Thailand, which is dedicated to the Hindu deity Shiva.
	And here is where the rabbit hole gets very deep.
	Shiva stands for the destroyer in the Hindu trinity.
	That's true.
	So both sides want this temple.
	That's it.
	So let's talk to you about the immediate prelude.
	So in late May, there was a skirmish that lasted about 10 minutes and it led to a Cambodian soldier dying.
	Oh.
	So there were firing over there.
	Cambodian soldier died.
	There was a conflict.
	And then there was a very sneaky thing that Hun Sen did to the Thai prime minister.
	They were phoning each other in June and they were talking about the border.
	Now, Hun Sen is someone who was essentially ruling Cambodia for 40 years now.
	He was the prime minister of Cambodia from 1985 to 1993 and then 1998 to 2023.
	He started at the Khmer Rouge on Alpot.
	But then they say that the relationship changed a bit and then he became the good guy in some people's eyes and he ruled Cambodia for up until 2023.
	1998 to 2023.
	So it's like Thatcher-esque longevity is what I'm hearing.
	It's even more, isn't it?
	Yes, I'm just joking.
	Probably is, yeah.
	I think that was 14.
	Let me throw in little jokes sometimes.
	Or that's the Tony Blair of Cambodia.
	That's where it all went south from there.
	Right.
	He was a part of the Khmer Rouge, but he's actually a good guy.
	Jimmy human rights legislation.
	Yeah.
	The point is, he was not brother number one.
	Oh, right.
	That's the point.
	So they were talking to Thailand.
	He was talking to the Thai prime minister about the border crisis and the dispute.
	And he basically recorded it and leaked it.
	Right.
	I don't know.
	Berning credibility.
	Who's going to talk to you on the phone after this?
	Yeah, yeah.
	And lots of the Thai people were outraged, and that led to her suspension.
	So she called him uncle in this.
	I checked out.
	I checked out, they say it's pretty usual in Southeast Asia to talk to older people with uncle, but I, you know...
	Yeah, yeah.
	The first thing I thought wasn't this, but they apparently it's casame.
	But that's not the issue.
	So in the phone call, Pai Tong Tan Shinawatra discusses border dispute with former Cambodian leader and calls him uncle.
	And they say here, come on, uncle, stop the dispute, stop the senseless violence, right?
	And they say in the recording, she can be heard criticizing a senior Thai military commander who she said just wanted to look tough, describing him as an opponent, addressing Hun Sen as uncle.
	She adds that if there were anything he wanted to, just let me know, I'll take care of it.
	That's a bit suspicious.
	She said afterwards that she did it in order to get on his good side.
	She's trying to be friendly or something.
	Trying to be friendly, but people were very resentful about this.
	That led to her suspension.
	So that wasn't particularly good.
	So what happened now?
	I'll tell you what happened last week.
	So it started on the 24th of July.
	At some point, border Patrols met, they started shouting at each other, they started shooting each other, both sides accuse each other of firing the first shot, and then there was a sort of there were several firings from both sides.
	We have the Cambodians firing rocket launchers, and lots of civilian targets were hit.
	There were at least 14 dead in Thailand, civilian Thailand, including an eight-year-old boy.
	The Cambodians hadn't released their death up until, I think, a few days ago.
	But for many days, they weren't saying how many dead Cambodians there were.
	We only had posts from the Thai army and the Thai side.
	So all of it bear that with a pinch of salt.
	But there does seem to be lots of firing at civilian targets here.
	We have a gas station being hit.
	You can see here.
	They're firing at essentially civilian targets.
	Then the Thai used their air force.
	They hit, as they said, military targets.
	That's all the data we have access to, all the reports we have access to.
	And what we saw was that there was essentially military Thai supremacy there.
	Now, what happened was that the Thai side revoked, recalled their ambassador from Cambodia.
	They also said Thai people from Cambodia to leave.
	They said also Thai people who lived close to the borders to evacuate.
	And the Cambodians also told several of the Cambodians to leave.
	So we are talking about hundreds of thousands of dispossessed.
	I've heard reports, the most conservative report says 100,000.
	I've heard up until 300,000.
	So, yeah, so we have here a article by the independent Thailand and Cambodia exchange fire for second day as death toll rises to 16.
	That's the second day.
	You see here civilians hiding, right?
	Yeah.
	So what happened afterwards that the main players, US, China, nobody care about this.
	Yeah, but it's not exactly that nobody cared about it, but it's something that it was deliberately buried.
	Oh, right, okay.
	Why?
	I don't know, it just felt like a good thing to say.
	Okay.
	No, there was significant coverage of it.
	But it seems like no one wants this conflict to escalate because the US doesn't want this to escalate.
	Also, China is heavily investing in both countries.
	It has heavily invested in Cambodia.
	There have been claims of about a third of foreign investment in Cambodia being Chinese and most infrastructure investment being of Chinese origin.
	But also, Thailand is a much bigger market.
	And also, China wants to have a good relationship with Thailand.
	So China doesn't want this to escalate.
	Also, the US doesn't want it to escalate.
	And they both called for a ceasefire.
	Malaysia said, I'm going to have a neutral ground for you to come here and talk it out.
	They went there and they didn't exactly honor the ceasefire.
	But for now, it seems like the ceasefire is holding.
	I feel bad for Trump.
	He's got to go around the world saying, can any of you have a ceasefire?
	Do you know what I mean?
	He's got Ukraine, Russia, he's got Palestine, Israel.
	He must be going, Thailand and Cambodia.
	It's everywhere at war.
	Well, don't feel so bad about him because at the end you see that this worked well for him.
	Oh, okay, good.
	Right.
	Okay.
	As long as Trump wins.
	So just so I'm one of those ignorant people who doesn't know anything about Thailand and Cambodia, apart from Cambodia was ruled by a weird genocidal regime full of retards.
	Yeah, you know, there's evil, evil or idiot, and then there's Pol Pot.
	Yeah.
	It's just crazy.
	You're wearing glasses.
	No, on my watch.
	No, so that's not it.
	And that's one of the major issues here is that the Cambodians have been historically unpredictable, especially the Pol Pot regime.
	They were helped by the Viet Cong.
	a year after they go power, they started having a role with them.
	Because I don't know anything about these countries, but I understand that Thailand...
	So, like, you know, kind of predictable.
	Thailand has a huge history.
	It spans centuries.
	It's, I think, 4.5 centuries.
	Thai monarchy is quite important.
	I remember reading about Thailand.
	Basically, they view their king in the way we ought to view ours, except ours is terrible.
	Right, so this is a big conflict.
	And essentially, what happened was that the conflict lies in centuries of cultural rivalry, but also colonial era treaties and contested territorial claims over the temples on the border.
	So there was the Cambodian Khmer Empire whose heyday was the 9th, from the 9th to the 15th century, and they built that temple over there.
	And then as the empire, the Khmer Empire declined, we had the Siamese Thai kingdom of Ayu Thaya rising to power and sacking the Khmer capital of Angor in the 15th century, seizing Western Cambodian territories and adopting Khmer cultural forms.
	And then they said that the area fell under French control.
	The sphere of influence.
	The worst thing that can happen.
	And what happened in the beginning of the 20th century, there was the Franco-Siamese treaty.
	Now, Siam was the name used for Thailand at the moment.
	And the name used for Cambodia at the moment was Campuca.
	That's why Pol Pot named his, I think, his regime, the Democratic Republic of Campuka.
	Unless I'm horribly mistaken, fact-check me for this.
	And what happened was that after World War II, in which the Thai sided with Japan, the French influence in the region weakened, and the Franco-Siamese treaty, which gave the temple and the Priyavihar province to Cambodia, was seen as an old treaty, on old treaties that should be revoked by the Thai.
	So the Thai constantly try to say this is our land, this is our stolen land.
	The Cambodians say this is no, this is the remnants of the Khmer Empire.
	This is our empire.
	And what happens is that you constantly have the Cambodians appealing to the International Court of Justice in order to appeal to a rule in their favor.
	And it does have a history of ruling in their favor.
	And the Thai want to solve that bilaterally with Cambodia because they have a far greater military and economy.
	So that's exactly the wider context of this conflict.
	Now, my view is that although the Cambodians are a bit unpredictable, I don't think this has the potential of escalating into the conflict that is going to destroy Asia.
	At least for now.
	Well, I'm glad to hear that.
	They say for now, what, five, ten years, it's over.
	We never know.
	We're analysts.
	Okay.
	But the thing is, I love it.
	Oh, there's been a minor skirmish on the Thai-Cambodian border.
	Yeah.
	Hundreds of thousands displaced.
	It's like, what?
	Yeah.
	But they also had this in the period between 2008 and 2011.
	There was also territorial dispute and there were many casualties.
	So you see here, that was about 17 years ago.
	From the Cambodian side, 19 soldiers killed, 3 civilians killed, and 16 soldiers killed from Thailand.
	Has Donald Trump threatened to annex the temple and turn it into a...
	And we have here people saying that he essentially has a record of average about one peace deal ceasefire per month during his six months of office.
	It's well past done that President Trump was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
	What is his obsession with the Nobel Peace Prize, man?
	And the Cambodians are trolling everyone, basically saying they plan to nominate Trump for the news.
	He doesn't say he deserved it for the Abraham Accords, but he didn't get it for that.
	So now he wants it for his endless ceasefires.
	I mean, don't be wrong, Trump has done really well in international diplomacy, right?
	But what is the obsession with the Nobel Peace Prize?
	Maybe just because a part of him is still an establishment guy as well.
	He wants the little prizes.
	I need the pat on the back.
	He does need that level, doesn't he?
	Yeah.
	Maybe just, yeah, maybe he just wants the best.
	It's a tremendous prize, one of the best prizes you can get, that kind of thing, doesn't he?
	They gave it to Obama, didn't they?
	So it's like, why would you care?
	Yes, that's the problem.
	That's why he wants it.
	He wants two.
	Obama got one.
	I got two.
	That's what he wants to do.
	Obama got one, therefore it's worthless, is what I would think.
	But it is a good thing to show to people who are a way of him using the argument to his base that I'm not for forever wars.
	I'm the president of peace.
	And the Democrats are the presidents of war.
	Yeah, I mean, that's fair.
	I mean, Trump's always been fairly strong on that, to be honest.
	Chris says seems staged.
	I'm not sure if he's talking about...
	Probably that's for...
	I think that's probably for my one.
	Unless he thinks Thailand versus Cambodia is staged, is it?
	downstage it just honestly it sounds like everyone's been No matter what happens.
	And I'm always like, hang on, what's the angle?
	The Trump attacks.
	The Romba Tet is fake.
	Even something...
	It's always like, fake.
	And I'm like, to what end?
	Why would this one...
	Just like the flat earth conspiracy.
	It's like, what's the payout for this?
	We're going to persuade everyone that the earth is actually round when it's actually flat.
	Yeah.
	Neema calls him school of skits.
	So I've got friends who've gone so school of skits.
	I just can't.
	Everything's fake.
	You can't talk to them about anything.
	And some things definitely are fake, but not everything.
	Yeah.
	Chris says, to be fair, millions of Brits have been displaced from their home cities.
	No one really cares outside of the country.
	Well, you know, try getting our government to give a damn about that.
	Anyway, let's move on.
	Oh, you want to do my bit?
	Cool.
	Brilliant.
	That's why I'm here, isn't it?
	Of course.
	So I've called this Hitchens Tries to Save the Tories Again.
	And do I have to plug Islander first?
	Yes.
	It's still on the screen.
	But before all that, guys, I've been reading this little magazine called Islander.
	And I have to say, it's jolly good stuff.
	And you can pick it up.
	How did they get it, Carl?
	Shop.lotice.com.
	That's shop.lotice.com, and I highly recommend it.
	Maybe one day I'll write for it and that one will be cheaper.
	But that's Islander, folks.
	Available while stocks last.
	While stocks last.
	Do I just click that?
	Oh, there you go.
	And now we'll move on to the segment, which is Hitchens tries to save the Tories again.
	So good old Peter Hitchens.
	And I have done a segment about him before on Lotus Eaters back in the day in the old office, and he actually liked it.
	So hopefully he will not hate me for this one.
	I'm going to be balanced.
	But basically, Hitchens is back with his anti-zero seats campaign.
	Oh, okay.
	It's broken Carl's brain already.
	Just Nigel Farage made what's left.
	Sorry, let me give a bit of history on this, right?
	So from around the year 2000 to about 2011, the Conservative Party was losing to the Labour Party, culturally, morally.
	And it got to about 2010.
	And Peter Hitchens wrote an entire book saying, don't vote for David Cameron because he is just a Blairite and he will completely capture the Conservative Party and ruin the entire country.
	If anything, and if David Cameron does win, we're going to have to just destroy the Conservative Party entirely.
	Yeah.
	Called the Cameron Delusion.
	Excellent book.
	I read it.
	And he also did a documentary called The Top at the Top, also recommended.
	Yeah.
	And Cameron won.
	The Tories ruined the country.
	And so you might think that Peter Hitchens would be banging the drum of zero seats.
	We must scatter the Conservative Party to the winds.
	But no.
	No, when it came to the election, he made the case, no, we have to stop Starmer's labor getting in at all costs.
	So as much as I hate the Tories, and as much as I was there first, saying I'm the one that hates them first before you did, I'm now saying vote for them with your while holding your nose.
	And weirdly, that wasn't that persuasive.
	No, but I mean, I understood it.
	I mean, it didn't apply to my area, luckily, because Labour won by double the votes that Tories and Reform put together got.
	So I was like, I wasn't in one of those seats where Hitchens could come and slap you with the ruler.
	But for some people, it's like, look at what you've done.
	You've brought in Starmer.
	I hope you're happy now.
	And he was furious.
	But this headline.
	Nigel Farage may wipe out what's left of the Tory Party, but in doing so, he'll destroy our last defense against the anti-British left.
	My brother in Christ, the Tory Party are the anti-British left.
	You can always say that, but he still believes in this piece that they are slightly better than the leftist coalition we'll get.
	So he says, so his whole premise is: what if Nigel Farage manages to destroy the Tory Party, but cannot replace it with anything better?
	And that's the quite interesting, slightly different angle.
	And he quotes Henry Hill, who if we have time, I'll get into later, who wrote a very interesting piece about that in the critic.
	So he says, most of us are now sick to the back teeth of the Conservative Party, patriotic and slightly sensible in opposition, unpatriotic, politically correct, and jaw-droppingly useless in office.
	So he does acknowledge that.
	That's great, actually.
	He says, but this crumbling, rusted, gap-toothed political Maginot line is now all that stands between us and the terrifying forces of modern labour.
	Taxes to make your wallet shrivel and your eyes water.
	Borrowing guaranteed to bring ruin, net zero to make that ruin worse.
	And of course, a complete and utter failure.
	Can it be accidental to reduce legal or illegal immigration?
	Okay, pause there.
	We know that it wasn't accidental.
	And it wasn't even failure.
	Boris Johnson was like, crank open the floodgates.
	I want the Financial Times to like me.
	Well, even Starmer called it.
	Yeah.
	But here we get the great Hitchens sort of imagery.
	He carries on, not to mention a large, slimy dollop of traditional labour incompetence on top.
	You know, terrible schools, lots of strikes, jammed, shuddering public transport, absent police, pressure cooker prisons, and the constant danger of the IMF being called in.
	You don't even get what you've paid so much for.
	And this is my favourite bit.
	Nobody understands better than I do that if the Tory was a person, it would deserve to be made to stand in the pillory and be pelted for many hours with bad eggs, squidgy beetroots, Brussels sprouts, lots of those, expired tomatoes, and old cold porridge.
	And of course, voting for Nigel Farage's reform UK is a tempting way of subjecting it to just such enjoyable humiliation.
	Well, you're really selling it to me.
	I wasn't going to vote for Farage, but now I might.
	He's selling it.
	I know, he's giving, to be fair, the other case quite strongly.
	But he goes on to say that why we can't actually do that because the Tory Party is not a person.
	Okay, Ham, before we go on, right?
	Can we go back up a second?
	really approve of his denigration of the Labour Party because we saw some We saw Peter Kyle calling Nigel Farage a pedo the other day, right?
	Peter Kyle, the science secretary.
	Or at least on the side of.
	Yeah, but that's essentially saying the same thing.
	Peter Kyle basically saying, Nigel Farage hearts Jimmy Savile.
	And it's like, that's ridiculous.
	But this whole general incompetence is something I really think is just so phenomenally true.
	And people dug up a tweet on Peter Carl's Twitter feed from 2019 that I'm going to read to you verbatim because I just can't believe that these people are.
	I mean, he's a member of the British government right now.
	Quote from Peter Kyle.
	The last time I was assessed, when I was 30, my reading and comprehension age was estimated at eight years and three months.
	Yep, I quote tweeted it.
	He reads like an eight-year-old.
	Did you get my response to it?
	Basically, he's the guy who said he's an idiot.
	For some things, like word comprehension, I was in the bottom one percentile.
	Let's make him a politician.
	Yeah, because the online statement, well, you don't have to be 18.
	I said, I hate to tell you this, but with that reading age, we'll have to censor what you can see on the internet.
	So he won't be able to comprehend what he sees.
	But he says he's got a thread here.
	I was put into remedial class with kids experiencing quite severe learning and behavioural difficulties.
	Problem is, you get death threats from the dyslexia lobby because I've said things I criticise ADHD on GB News and I got like someone threatening me with like a gun emoji.
	I'm like, guys, ADHD.
	But of course, this all ties back in with Hitchens because he says dyslexia doesn't exist.
	He says he left school without any usable qualifications, but managed to get someone who was 25 when he started over.
	And now he's in the government.
	Not exactly Enoch Powell, is it?
	Oh my God, we used to produce brilliant men and now.
	And we're ruled by them.
	I know, it's quite disturbing.
	So anyway, if you wondered, I was on Crowder the other day and I was like, look, no, our politicians are effing retarded.
	I watched that.
	Yeah, and they thought I was joking.
	They thought I was joking.
	No, no, no.
	You meant literally.
	I literally meant they have the reading comprehension age of pre-teens.
	Yeah, and imagine how Hitchens feels about that.
	I mean, he's known to chat a bit about decline.
	I've heard.
	Talk about decline.
	Jesus is favoritely.
	So, but you see, Carl, you can't punish the Tories because he says the Tory Party is not a person.
	It feels no pain.
	It suffers no shame or remorse.
	Use it as much as you like, and you will not, by doing so, compel it to become what you want it to be.
	On the other hand, it is the only feeble obstacle to the forces of the active idiot left, already in control of the law, the civil service, the NHS, the education system, and the BBC.
	So he's agreeing that it's feeble, but he says, unless you can be sure you have a replacement ready and to hand, it might be worth waiting till you can build something better before hurling it into the wheelie bin of history.
	Hang on a second, hang on a second.
	So this, oh my God, Mr. Hitchens.
	It seems like the war is already lost, mate.
	They control the law, the civil service, the NHS, the education system, and the BBC.
	What ideological state apparatus do they not have control of?
	Presumably, in this argument, Parliament, if they won.
	They have control of Parliament, so the government.
	Yeah, but he's saying don't give up on the Tories because then they could come back in and recapture some of these institutions.
	I don't know.
	Yes, I know.
	I don't know, man.
	I think it's over.
	It feels like it from that sense, but he...
	Of course, I love Hitchens, But there are some strange moments in the piece where he tries to pin the Southport thing on Farage in that very kind of standard lib way.
	Yeah, because he talks about where is the party?
	He talks about.
	I think it was up a bit.
	He said, oh, yeah, there's quite a lot on Farage.
	Southport Killer.
	Oh, that's the marijuana.
	We'll get onto that.
	Inevitably, it was all due to marijuana.
	Yeah, he talked about Farage being, you know, how Farage said the truth was being withheld from us, which it was, by the way.
	But he says, I asked at the time in these pages, is it conceivable that the suggestion of a police cover-up made by a man of such standards as Farage played some part in the idiotic, shameful scenes that have erupted on our streets since then?
	I still think it's an interesting question, given Farage's continued prominence in national politics.
	So he takes the stance of any kind of.
	He's not saying Farage riots, but he's almost there.
	He basically is saying.
	So that's the, I think that's something I disagree with, of course.
	And then he also, I disagree, of course, with this take on marijuana.
	Now, I certainly believe marijuana is bad and should not be smelt on every London street and should be a crime, but I don't agree with this.
	He says, from what we've learned about the Southport killer, it's plain that he's deranged almost certainly by the marijuana use, which is frighteningly common in our schools among pupils of his age.
	And goes on.
	So you've got to have a Hitchens bit about marijuana.
	But that's kind of a digression, really.
	He's on firmer ground, I think, with his attacks on Farage and the kind of superficiality of the reform project and a classic Hitchens line: peer into Mr. Farage's depths and you find they are shallow.
	Dive or jump into them, hoping for a refreshing dip in original thinking, and you will break something when you hit the bottom.
	His thoughts on police, crime, and prison are totally impractical, and you can tell he really isn't very interesting.
	Tell us how you really feel, Peter.
	Yeah, and he compares him to Ken Livingston in that he doesn't know how to operate in the House of Commons, but is a kind of high-voltage political individual with a strong following.
	Wasn't Ken Livingston a Holocaust denial?
	I don't know about that.
	But I'm saying I don't know in case we get sued, but I generally don't know.
	I'm going to look it up.
	But he points out that Farage is brilliant at surfing the crowds.
	He knows what slogans connect and so on.
	Fairly standard critique of Farage, but sorry, no, he made Hitler comments in 2016, which were apparently inaccurate, quote unquote.
	Apparently, oh, no, he said that Hitler was a Zionist.
	Okay, few.
	Well, please not sue us, Ken, if you're watching.
	I know he's a big fan of the show.
	Anyway, there's another article so I want to get onto.
	So let's conclude.
	Hitchens concludes he may well be able to wipe out much of what is left of the Tory party, meaning Farage, but in any voting system, he will struggle to secure a majority.
	And if he does, he'll struggle even more to make a government out of it.
	So this is the case.
	Are they just going to wipe out the Tories, but to no avail?
	So on this, I don't think Farage is going to struggle to secure a majority.
	I think he's got it.
	The various policy, like, Farage is over 30% now regularly.
	And it's entirely possible that a good bit of campaigning before an election can push him to like 35-36%.
	So we'll.
	Yeah, I think he can win as well.
	The question of whether he'll make it drafted is making the government out.
	Yeah, that's the key part.
	And this was quite interesting.
	Annabelle Denham in the Telegraph had a similar idea.
	She said as well that very similar conclusion.
	She said, Farage is winning because Labour are imploding and the Conservatives are loathe.
	Yet two years from now, the picture could be very different.
	Reform may itself have descended into chaos.
	They're making up policies on the spur of the moment.
	That certainly seems true.
	The suggestion we nationalise 50% of our water industry is just latest example.
	And then she says, Will enough voters really think reform able to form a functioning government when the current London taxi full of MPs struggle to tell a consistent story?
	So they've only got a few now and they still can't make it coherent.
	But the problem is, although this entire piece is about why Kemi should be stuck with and the Tories need to plow on with Kemi, the problem with it is the graph that says, no, Farage outperforms Badenock with almost every group.
	And Farage is beating Kemi Badenock 28% to 18% overall, but also 35% to 19% male, but also beating Ern female and in 18 to 34 and in 35 to 54 and 55 plus and graduates, but also non-graduates, North Midland, South London.
	That's all there is.
	Wales, he's absolutely spanking it.
	And even Scotland, he's beating her.
	So you go, what's Kemi?
	I mean, recognizability and the brand helps in politics.
	And the Tory Party does have that brand because it's the oldest party and one of the most effective parties in history.
	But I think that it's not just the Tory Party and the Reform Party and the Labour Party.
	It's who leads it.
	We're talking about a Badenoch-Lack-led Tory party versus a Farage-led Reform Party.
	And recognisability here is going to be in Farage's favour.
	We're talking about this from a realistic perspective because from my understanding, Peter Hitchens was saying before the previous elections that it's reform isn't going to win, so back Conservatives.
	Am I wrong?
	That was part of it, yeah.
	Yeah, but you're right.
	That does become harder to justify given these stats and various polls.
	How long have I got, Carl?
	Because there's another good article.
	It's ages, man.
	Okay.
	So the next.
	Just a quick thing on this, though.
	It's kind of crazy when you look at the polls, because Nigel Farage is regularly getting like 33, 35%.
	Stalma's down to 25%.
	And then Kami Badenok has been on like 15% to 17%, 18%.
	And it's just like...
	I mean, she claims she's always, she's doing this process.
	She's rebuilding.
	So she's sort of in hiding for a bit.
	But you can't really be like that with the threat of Farage.
	That's her big problem.
	Yeah.
	But it's a very similar article, which I believe is the one that Hitchens is referencing at the start.
	And I'm sure he'll correct me in a series of tweets if it isn't.
	But which is Who Can Rescue the Right, which comes from Henry Hill in the critic.
	And this is actually an interesting piece because it delves into even things like elite theory.
	So for fans of that.
	But he says, with the Conservative Party on its knees, many people seem either to hope or expect that Reform UK will replace it as the major right-wing party in British politics.
	Yet the evidence offers scant support for the belief.
	Reform can certainly kill, or at least mortally wound, the Conservative Party, if it sets its mind to it.
	Replacing it is another matter.
	So it's the same point.
	Well, it's the same book because Hitchens Party references article, but it's can they actually what can they will they just finish it to let the left in and not do anything themselves it's slightly different angle than I've heard in a sense the bare case for reform is the great right hope has two parts both of which are anchored in the British rights most fundamental strategic weakness a gaping talent deficit so um I mean that does seem like a strategic weakness but hopefully they don't mean us but as we've already established the left is full of retards as well so
	I think it might just be theocracy that is true it might it might it might just be uh British politics attract morons you need to write a rebuttal to this Carl say the left is full of retards as well could be a good time um so no problem is I don't know where my next bit is here um so he goes on to say that a consistent feature of his of Farage's political life is a congenital inability to allow his parties to grow bigger than him, than he is, which I think we've all seen.
	And the reason I can't find this is I was originally, it was from a different article that I was trying to quote.
	So, here we go.
	Farage's leadership instincts are those of a Macedonian king, happiest at the head of a cavalry phalanx, which simply follows him into whatever gap he espies in the ranks of his enemies.
	As a short-term tactic, this is undeniably effective, just as it was for Alexander.
	But just as the Alexandrian Empire imploded upon the death of its founder, so too is it impossible to imagine reform surviving without Farage.
	I feel like you're about to correct something.
	No, I'm not about to correct.
	I want to say I think he, from my perspective, he sort of does have a point as far as Farage's personality is concerned.
	Completely.
	To my eyes, he seems like someone who's far more interested in campaigning than actually governing.
	Yeah, it's really weird because Farage is the worst at making friends.
	Like, Farage has been doing this since the late 90s.
	And after 30 years of being an important, probably one of the most monumental politicians in late 20th century, early 21st century British history, Farage has like four friends.
	Oh, well, yeah.
	On that point, he has this thing about the evil overlord reference.
	He says it's a quote from somewhere.
	He goes, I reserve the right to execute any henchmen who appear to be a little too intelligent, powerful, or devious.
	However, if I do so, I will at some subsequent point shout, why am I surrounded by these incompetent fools?
	So that's no doubt Farage has shouted in his, yeah.
	And on, yeah, and so he's gonna go Stalin.
	Where I'm a general.
	So yeah, he says, whilst Farage is a master at channeling incoherent popular anger, he doesn't actually represent any substantial social force or coherent philosophy.
	That's kind of the interesting part.
	He represents no social block, no defined body of sentiment or opinion.
	So it's interesting, although we've just seen it, he actually is winning in all those demographics.
	what is winning just sort of Farage-ism Yeah, exactly.
	The anger.
	So, and he says, points out that this means a couple of things.
	It means you're exposed both by the chill winds of elite opinion, which we've definitely seen, and the temptation to make tactical plays at the expense of any broader strategic vision.
	That is clearly the problem.
	I mean, good examples there.
	Allowing Jemrick to outflank him on immigration.
	You turn on the universal credit for two children.
	I mean, the idea that Farage can be like, yeah, Jemerick's definitely to the right of me on immigration.
	I know you're going to say that.
	Why, yeah, why would you allow that to be the case?
	It's completely crazy.
	But where this, So, it's unlike the Hitchens piece, he's not saying, but we'll stick with the Tories.
	He says that they have the exact same problems, poor personnel and philosophical incoherence, and that these stem from the same root, a withered social base.
	So, that is the key.
	He's talking about who actually is a Tory anymore, because they used to have this obvious group that were just sort of the natural Tories, and he's saying they basically don't exist anymore.
	And he blames this.
	Where's the thing?
	The Tories might seem to have a deeper historically rooted philosophy, but in practice, the old rubrics about personal responsibility, lower taxes, and smaller state were not reflected in the party's actual records.
	So, they didn't actually do the Tory things.
	So, that was a big problem.
	But they've also run out of the ability to draw in new candidates.
	So, he goes on to talk about Pareto's circulation of elites, and you need to bring in new talent.
	Yeah, the old talent has circulated out by growing old and passing away, but they've not brought in anyone new.
	And then, when Kemmy Badenock, I mean, do you remember when Badenoch was campaigning for the leadership of the Tory party?
	Yeah.
	You saw their face going, oh, yeah, this is it.
	This is the one.
	And it's like, no, what she is, is a brown woman who isn't a left-winger.
	Yeah, and they love that.
	They're like, she can't be attacked.
	Like, what the way Sola Bravman and Priti Patel weren't attacked.
	Of course, she can be attacked, Boomer.
	What are you, morons?
	I might have told you, I was even at a party literally with Kemi there, and I was telling him when I was Team Generic.
	Not that Jemericks would be all end-all, but he would have been a better choice.
	So he says, at the same time, the Tories losing sight of the historical role as a sectional interest.
	That's the key thing.
	Has led them to neglecting to maintain the social processes which produce Tories.
	The unsurprising consequence of which is they've not produced and not been produced.
	And Tory support amongst younger generations has collapsed.
	So they lack the new people.
	They can't bring them in.
	Formal politics is a struggle for power between elites, elite theory there, and a sufficient stock of suitable people is the table stake.
	Without it, all you can do is shout.
	So they don't have anyone, basically.
	And yeah, he comes on to this key thing.
	Reform could kill the Tories but not replace them.
	But he's also saying the Tories will have the exact same problem.
	And he, yeah, he just, he says it's to do with, a lot of it is to do with a lack of entering into cultural, the cultural arena, and that they haven't bothered developing that side, which is something we've talked about loads, loads on the conservative side.
	I'm just trying to find the best quote of this.
	He's saying that they go into business because there's money in it, but they don't really go in to other areas like the arts.
	He says there's no shortage of money on the right, but I highlight one bit before that.
	He talks about perhaps too few right-wingers attempt careers in academia, publishing, or the arts.
	But if so, part of the reason must be a plausible expectation that they would struggle either to build any sort of career in them or pursue projects aligned to their own fashionable values.
	Well, yeah, of course.
	And he underplays this bit massively.
	He talks about how the left ends up taking over these institutions.
	Then there's this ambient moral pressure which pushes everything left.
	But to me, he undersells this because it's like, of course, in any of the arts, in academia, in comedy, in music, whatever it is, you're completely, you're not allowed publishing.
	You're not allowed in any of it.
	So he slightly underplays that, but at least he makes the point.
	And lastly, he makes a point about the funding because he says there's no shortage of money on the right, but right-wing donors have shown little interest in funding cultural institutions, nor right-wing politicians in defunding them.
	And this is a massive problem.
	You get these right-wing sort of billionaires.
	I'll give you a tenor, but they won't like.
	How can I get my tenner for the right way?
	Yeah, tenner, but you don't get anything like...
	So there's never, and they don't give enough money compared to the left.
	And Curtis Jarvin had talked about this recently in a tweet, and I can read part of it.
	He says, Conservative billionaires be like, freedom of speech will solve it.
	We'll just have a big New England town hall, but on the internet, and reason will prevail.
	You haven't lived till you've had to nag a billionaire to pay a $5,000 research tab to some roke grad student.
	Seriously.
	And he went on, and it was a fairly controversial one later where he said they were something rich that I won't say.
	But you get the idea.
	He's saying that they don't give out money in the same way.
	It's pretty weird, isn't it?
	What do they do with their money?
	We know what the left does with their money.
	They spend their money on society, making it left-wing.
	What's the right-wing billionaire?
	With Andrew Tate.
	I don't know.
	I guess they must be.
	What is going on?
	Yeah, I know.
	And so I think Hill makes a compelling case there that actually the Tories reform might replace the Tories and kill them off, but then they're no good themselves.
	The Tories have all the same problems.
	They don't even have this institutional heft anymore.
	They don't represent a particular section of society, but nor do reform.
	Quite interesting.
	But of course, the obvious sort of subtext with all of this is that we need to offer something else.
	And that's what Restore Britain can do.
	And I forgot to add these asides.
	I just read the bloody thing.
	But people like things like Restore with Rupert Lowe, the whole point is to address this imbalance.
	Smart young people like Charlie Downs, Harrison Pitt, et al., they are presumably there to shape this vision and to figure out what is that section of society.
	People are incredibly angry, but he's saying that that anger is not really being harnessed as a coherent social force, even though the anger's there and it's sort of waiting.
	So that's what we that's what it's waiting for representation, I agree.
	Yeah, but yeah, no, I completely agree.
	There's nothing on the horizon.
	But I mean, I've heard from people close to these things that the Conservative Party has basically collapsed from within and that they've lost like loads of branches.
	There's basically no grassroots conservatives anymore.
	Their donors are drying up and it's like yeah, the comms, this social, so-called like monolithic CCHQ is down to two staff on comms.
	Yeah, I picture like an old coffee machine, a dog, like an old dog, and the leads HQ is shutting down.
	Yeah, it was all in that piece on Kemi that, yeah, they've running out of money because who's going to fund them?
	Yeah, why would you want to?
	Who cares?
	They're like fourth in the polls or something now.
	They're like, you know, running lib dem numbers.
	So it's like.
	And I mean, they're going to get waxed in the next election as well.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's why Hitchens says, though, but you've got to vote for them anyway.
	I don't know.
	I think he's right that they're screwed, but I don't think they're savable at this point.
	It would have to be something monumental.
	No, I mean, even I wrote, to be fair, to Mr. Hitchens, even I wrote a provocative piece saying maybe I'll vote Tory for the first time ever.
	It was a piece about how Farage has gone to the left of Jenrick.
	But even since then, I'm like, they've just fallen apart.
	They've got nothing.
	Yeah, I mean, like, there's what would be the point?
	Right.
	But can you vote reform either?
	You know, they just keep saying all the wrong things.
	I'm not a fan of the idea of voting for reform.
	I mean, it looks like they won't need us to vote reform, to be honest.
	They don't seem to want us, do they?
	They keep signaling against us at every opportunity.
	Those right-wingers, they can piss off.
	May as well have a picture of you, your face just crossed out.
	I know.
	I know.
	Okay, bro.
	But this is Farage's point.
	He is right that he cuts down everyone who even vaguely seems to challenge him, which has left him like the supervillain being like, why am I surrounded by idiots?
	Like, well, I wonder why.
	Anyway, let's go to the video comments.
	Thank you.
	I spent a brief time researching Friedrich or Fritz Rook, although most of the information about him is in German, which I can't read, or French, which I can read, but I won't on principle.
	He was an author and a poet, but he was mostly known for his political activism.
	Specifically, he was a Marxist socialist, and he both wrote and edited a number of left-wing papers across Germany and partook in the 1918 to 1919 German Revolution as a Spartacist organizer.
	You might wonder why a signed book of his poetry and a biography is sitting in a house in Ohio.
	Well, Fritz Rook is my girlfriend's great-grandfather.
	Is it too harsh to tell her how much I support the 1919 Free Corps?
	That's interesting.
	Okay, let's go to the next one.
	But, like, Spider-Man and Dr. Oxford actually feel that the train.
	If the train hits you, you're going to be like an Indian there.
	you know, you're in trouble.
	Aggressively loud in the world.
	We are actually doing Spider-Man 3 after the podcast, so tune in for that.
	Let's go to the next one.
	AI was just a mistake.
	I'm just anti-AI after watching all of this.
	All right.
	Electric Boogaloo for the first segment says, I assume they were filming because the guy was acting out prior to the stabbing.
	Maybe.
	And I can only imagine.
	But the thing is, the cops are just like walking away from him.
	Like, there's no, it's no big deal.
	So I don't know.
	Anne says, I find it so odd that they said the victim, the guard who was stabbed, would be offered full welfare benefits.
	Welfare.
	Does this mean they're going to provide a house for him?
	Or does it take getting stabbed to get free housing for citizens of Ireland?
	Well, I mean, that would be a step up from getting told to get stuffed, which is what happens to victims over here.
	Arizona Desert Rat says, I'm curious as to how the Irish government plans on enforcing laws regarding kitchen knives.
	Are they going to start kicking in front doors to such kitchens from registered knives over two inches?
	Well, this is the point, isn't it?
	They've got nowhere to Go now, but try and pacify society.
	But this is just the nature of what it is to be a multicultural society.
	You've got to do it.
	Yep.
	You've got to have a nice safe stabbing.
	Aren't you reassured?
	Has anyone commented on the reassuring official stab vest?
	The only way there are only two scenarios in this.
	It's you either have a Leviathan state that polices the vastly incompatible different groups or you have one group just destroying the others.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's all it's all Singapore, isn't it?
	It's all, I always come back to Lee Kuan Yew.
	He saw our high trust society paying for the newspaper, leaving it, all that kind of thing.
	He said, right, we can never have that.
	It's set by force and authoritarianism, so we'll have to do it.
	Once you have all these different people, authoritarianism is inevitable.
	Yeah.
	Discuss.
	I mean, he was just explicit about this.
	Yeah.
	Yes, I have a multi-ethnic state.
	Therefore, it's going to be a tyranny.
	And even, and their ethnic rate now is just three major groups.
	Yeah.
	Far less crazy than ours.
	Yeah, far less distance between them, right?
	Yeah.
	Hector says, the woman coming in to stop the police officer tells you everything you need to know about the left in the West.
	Yeah, it's really bad.
	And it's so insufferable as well.
	It's like, look, these are police officers.
	If they're clubbing some guy on the street, there's probably a reason for it.
	She might have just been drunk.
	She looked like she was kind of like wandering about to me.
	You know what I mean?
	Maybe.
	I'm not saying drunk because she's Irish in the day in the street.
	Let's have a sound.
	I'm not saying that at all.
	Chance says, join Stab Proof Plus.
	Every month you get one new shiny official stab proof STM.
	Guaranteed to block one wild machete swing from any rogue newcomer.
	Asterisk some exceptions.
	Stay stab-free or your money back.
	Man, this is this is.
	I just hate everything about the modern world that's being constructed around us.
	I just hate.
	I mean, I say it enough, but I just hate all of it.
	It's just the bureaucracy.
	It's the damage that's done to society.
	It's the fact that this is just a normal part of life.
	It's like the guy who ran that kid over the other day in Birmingham or Manchester, it was.
	Because someone was getting macheted or something.
	I'm like, this is going to happen.
	This is going to happen more often, man.
	Yeah.
	People are just like, you know what?
	I've had enough.
	But they hate that the most, don't they?
	It might have been Hitchens I was listening to saying that today.
	They hate that the most when you take it into your own hands because they go, oh, no, no, no, that's we have a monopoly on that.
	Yeah.
	But we're not going to do anything.
	How about that?
	We're not going to stop the robbers or the criminals, but if you do, you're in trouble.
	We're going to get them afterwards.
	She said that about the disgraceful Southport rioters or something.
	And it's like, man.
	I didn't like that bit.
	And you are going to punish them.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Omar says, while I'm sure there's an unhealthy dose of Brainwash involved, there's almost an instinctual impulse in women to intervene in violence.
	People who don't know how to deal with violence think it ends when he's on the floor and that dishonorable men wouldn't pretend to submit.
	Yeah, exactly.
	David says, have you considered that Alar Akbar is Irish Gaelic for it's just a prank, bro?
	Interesting.
	Well, I mean, it does sound Irish.
	White Rider says, Cambodia sounds really whiny.
	Boo hoo, we lost territory during historical wars because we were weak.
	Why tell the UN to give it back?
	Well, I mean, I don't know anything about these things.
	I don't know anything about Cambodia.
	I think that's a correct summary.
	I don't know why Stellos didn't just say that, to be fair.
	Yeah, Josh says, Cambodia and Thailand are fighting the 7-Eleven wars because that gas station was one of the first civilian infrastructure hit.
	Yeah.
	Shocking.
	Okay.
	Does Cambodia have an air force?
	Right.
	So I've seen that it technically has.
	Oh, right, no, but it's.
	But it's just non-existent.
	And also their tanks are Mao's tanks that he sold them.
	Does the Thai have modern tanks?
	Right, right, right.
	Because Hector.
	Also modern F-16s.
	Yeah, because Hector's pointing out, well, Thailand has an Air Force.
	Yeah, they do have an Air Force, and they bombed the SHIT out of some targets in Cambodia.
	Michael says, we should be surprised that an English politician has a reading comprehension of an eight-year-old.
	Jeremy Corbyn barely passed out of secondary school.
	So it seems there's a passive low IQ, at least in Labour.
	Okay, I'm going to look that up.
	What are Jeremy Corbyn's qualifications?
	What are his?
	What are his qualifications?
	Genuinely curious about those.
	I mean, I think.
	He left school at 18 with two A levels, both at grade E, the lowest passing grade.
	Can he...
	If you scroll down on the signatures section, probably he's going to put an X. He's done no post-school work.
	He has no degree, no practical experience.
	Sounds like Corbyn.
	It is cool.
	I was looking at like...
	I was on out.
	But I like the way you're like, oh, yeah, that sounds like Corbyn.
	Yeah, it is.
	Yeah.
	Sorry, there were some other comments I didn't get to at all.
	Dan's video yesterday, the UK government forcing citizens to go through humiliation rituals was honestly one of the most black pilling videos I've seen for a long time.
	Yeah, I know.
	I watched about a third of it, and I was like, you know, I've just got to click off.
	This is depressing.
	But it is true.
	That's the problem.
	Scott says, anyone consider that he secretly has a black marijuana empire and doesn't want the competition?
	No.
	So Twitter banned Gab AI account last night and banned everyone following it for spam and platform manipulation.
	I got caught up in it and appreciate someone bringing attention to it.
	What's this?
	Well, I know Gab's been in trouble with the online.
	Well, I don't know if they've made a statement about the Online Safety Act, didn't they?
	And didn't they say they weren't going to do stuff in Britain, but I didn't know about the AI.
	Right, okay.
	I didn't know that Gab AI had been banned.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah.
	I mean, you perma-ban an AI, which is a good start, I suppose.
	Right.
	So, okay, interesting.
	Gab AI has some what I guess we'll call revisionist takes on the Nazis.
	So 130 to 160 minimum IQ, bare minimum qualification to be a politician.
	Well, we're not going to have very many politicians if that's the case.
	I got a 137 on a menstruat, so I'd scrape in.
	Yeah, scrape in on at least on that day.
	Yeah.
	If I'm tired, it might not get out on the other day.
	Actually, it's like no stock.
	Yeah, it's the shapes that get me when I'm tired.
	And the numbers.
	The public will mass buy stab vests, then the government will put in a ban and public wearing stab vests in public.
	Sightings of the vest.
	Sightings of the vest will encourage more stabbings.
	Almost a Monty Python sketch.
	Yeah.
	It's ridiculous.
	And holiday in Cambodia takes on a very different meaning this summer.
	Anyway, Michael says, no, that's the one I read.
	Twomas says, on Hitchens trying to save the Tories again, this is just one old moderate Marxist trying to reason with a group of moderate Marxists who are unaware that they are indeed these moderate Marxists.
	Whatever is said will not be heard for the generation gap in Marxist thought cannot be crossed.
	It can only further propagate it towards annihilation.
	No, Peter Hitchens isn't a Marxist.
	He used to be a Marxist.
	And so I think he would definitely take exception by calling him a Marxist.
	But he is still a boomer.
	And so he views the Tories as part of the old world that he doesn't want to let go, I think.
	He would say, I understand how these people work.
	I used to be one of them, remember?
	It's a lot worse than you think.
	He always talks about it.
	Oh, it's not worse than I think, Peter.
	Yeah, but he always talks about it.
	And Starmer being a Pabloite.
	Though I always wonder with Starma how influenced he is by his far-left background.
	It's hard to tell, isn't it?
	Because he's all over the map.
	I just don't think he thinks.
	He's an idiot.
	The things I've heard in universities.
	Because I was working at universities before, wasn't lecturing, but the things you hear coming from leftists are just shocking.
	Yeah.
	They cross.
	Your students.
	What?
	Are they your students?
	Some of them.
	No.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So a lot of people in the comments are like, quoting Peter, you cannot compel the Tory party to be what you want it to be.
	Well, isn't that a good reason to destroy it then?
	Yes.
	There is certainly that case.
	Yeah, he was saying you can't.
	His point there, though, in context was you can't punish it.
	So there's no point thinking you can, by punishing it, make it behave a certain different way.
	But what he's like, in the Middle Ages, the French used to put animals on trial and then they would execute them or put them in jail or something.
	And this happened repeatedly.
	Like, and I mean, that's literally him being like, well, look, you can't compel it what you want it to be because it doesn't understand.
	It's like, okay, but that means you just kill it.
	Like, when the English had like an animal that was, you know, a wolf or whatever, we'd just kill it.
	Well, it's, yes, you can't compel it to be what you want it to be.
	On the other hand, it's the only feeble obstacle to the forces of the active idiot left.
	So again, he's going with that.
	You can't, it's going to do what it wants.
	It's not going to do what you want.
	It's not conservative.
	It's crap.
	But it's still better than the left, is where he always ends up.
	I think it's too late for that.
	Once they followed all.
	I was talking to David Starkey about this on a forthcoming podcast.
	Once they follow all the everything the left was doing, which was Theresa May, Cameron, Boris in other ways, soon, they've all just followed it.
	So therefore, yes, there is no distinction.
	No.
	Very serious people like Starkey and I are saying that.
	So, you know, what is the point of the Tories?
	He probably still thinks they can be changed.
	He's still a member, Starkey, but obviously Hitchens still.
	Shocked they haven't kicked him out, frankly.
	But the point is, how is it then that Tony Blair was able to compel the Tory party to become what he wanted it to be?
	Yes, although Thatcher called Blair her best creation.
	So they were kind of in lockstep, you could say.
	Thatcher changed the game, Blair copied her, then Cameron copied him, calling himself the heir to Blair famously.
	And that's what we have.
	You've talked about Lowe's, the Blairite paradigm.
	But Blair was definitely accelerating and massively changing Thatcher's programme, so that is true.
	I suppose the answer is he was just smarter about it.
	He had the vision, he had the will, he had the sort of great man of history Carlisle thing, and was just able to be more effective in doing it, right?
	So we're waiting for maybe a great man along those lines.
	So great man inverted comments, you know, not that we liked what he did, but he was so effective.
	Blair definitely sort of captured the zeitgeist and then kind of beat the conservatives with it.
	You're like the stodgy old John Major Grey.
	Everyone hates conservatives actually because you're boring and you don't want to bankrupt the country filled up with immigrants.
	It's kind of what Hill was saying in that piece.
	He kind of realized there is no sectional interest in the Torah.
	Oh, it's not sufficient anymore.
	The natural Tory, there's not enough of them.
	Then you have the Michael Howard wilderness years where you're like, what's the point?
	What's the point of this?
	And they only came back because of Cameron, who was imitating Blair.
	I don't know, because by 2009, by the sort of Brown era, you could, like, Tony Blair, he won an election with, I can't remember how many votes it was, but then the second one, he did actually lose votes.
	Yeah.
	And Brown just scraped it.
	No, sorry, Brown lost.
	No, yeah, no, Brown was just handed it by.
	Yeah, Brown was handed it and then lost to the Conservatives.
	So I don't see why it was inevitable that it was Cameron that took it over.
	Because it looked like they were kind of on the downswing, anyway.
	Inevitable versus who?
	Well, there's inevitable that the Labour Party would win.
	Unless we became, it comes back to this talent thing.
	The Tories had a lack of talent.
	They were talking about who are we going to get?
	Is it going to be David Davis?
	It was talked about at the time.
	It was all these older sort of old faces.
	And when Cameron emerged, it was like, no, no, he was too young.
	That was a received wisdom for a long time.
	He's too young.
	And then that just became, oh, that's nonsense.
	He's definitely going to be the guy.
	But it's almost that it's just a sort of talent thing, isn't it?
	Like, you know, David Betts has been talking about elite defection.
	I'm almost like, who's going to be the guy?
	Maybe it is Rupert Lowe.
	You actually need a guy.
	Although you can say what you want about this great man theory not applying and beyond that.
	You still need a man or a Thatcher or a Blair.
	We still need something like that.
	But on our side, it could be lower.
	I don't know.
	I mean, I hope it's low.
	I hope it's anyone.
	The problem is with elite defection is low enough in the elite.
	He's in the kind of money.
	He's got money, but he's not really in the elite.
	So you almost, I was thinking about it, okay?
	Who from the elite can sort of defect?
	And he was saying, Betts, there's no way Farage is the guy, and he's not really, is he?
	He's very much in, he doesn't want to defect, basically, even if he is in the elite, which is unclear as well.
	So who's it going to be?
	Is it a generic?
	He's not really in the...
	You almost need a massive figure from the elite.
	That's what we have with what We seem to have with Johnson with Cummings, but it was a mirage.
	Yeah.
	A Johnson-style figure to defect properly.
	I mean, there just isn't one around.
	I couldn't think of one.
	I was trying to think, and I was coming up blank.
	Jeremy Clarkson?
	It might be Corbyn.
	That's the terrifying thing.
	It might be Corbyn.
	No, stop reading AA's Twitter feed.
	Corbyn's older than bloody God.
	He's like 71 or something.
	Maybe it's some new Muslim we don't know about.
	Oh, brilliant, yeah.
	It could be.
	But they were never in the elite, so I don't know who it is, who it could be.
	No, 71% says slightly off topic.
	But did you guys see Mr. Hitchens eloquently put Grok in its place by telling it it doesn't exist?
	I did see that, and I said it finally meets its match because it was Hitchens saying, you can't actually offend me, you don't exist.
	It was just this brilliant quote tweet put down of Grok.
	It was so funny.
	Old man yelling at clowns, yeah, it does feel that way.
	Like Grock's like, that's the most thorough thing in the world.
	It's like until it comes up against the Hitchens quote tweet.
	Then he's going, I'm sorry, Mr. Hitchens, you're absolutely.
	Well, then don't use contrarian.
	If you know it's pejorative, why use it?
	It was the funniest exchange.
	We should have done a video just on that.
	It's the funniest exchange.
	I didn't see this.
	But the thing is that it's the fact that Hitchens continued to argue with it.
	It's like, you can't afford because you'll exist.
	Checkmate Grok, and then it comes back.
	It's so funny, man.
	Stop arguing with the LLM, Mr. Hitchens.
	It's just, it's not a thing.
	You are right, actually.
	You are right.
	You don't need to argue.
	It was so foolish that you used contrarian against Hitchens.
	Everyone's like, no, Grok, you don't know what you've done.
	George says the Tories are beyond repair.
	Thinking they can be fixed is delusional at this point.
	They're responsible for the current state of the country.
	I'd rather see labor accelerationism than the boomers being complacent under the Tories again.
	You may be in luck.
	You might be getting exactly what you wanted there.
	But I actually do think there's something substantive to this, actually.
	Because I am viewing the Conservatives as kind of like the chloroform that's been keeping us all asleep, right?
	It's like, oh, well, the Tories are in charge.
	We should be fine.
	It's like, no, they've been worse, if not, you know, just as bad, if not worse.
	And the fact that you use the Tories as a safety blanket is part of the problem.
	We wouldn't be in this position if we didn't have the Tory party, frankly, and we just had the insane retarded communists who are trying to kill everyone.
	Yeah, thinking about that Hitchens piece again in relation to what you've just said, it's absolutely true that reform's a protest vote.
	It's an angry vote.
	We hate these two parties and we've finally had enough, which is significant.
	Then most people think, will reform get it together and form a property and proper government?
	Probably not.
	But then the question is, what comes after?
	And obviously, Hitchensphere is a weird leftist coalition, but it also opens the door for our thing to come in as well.
	Weird rightist coalition.
	Exactly.
	So that's the hope.
	But it could easily be the Sultana party.
	I mean, the not your party.
	I love that, man.
	It's not your party.
	It actually wants it to be called the left.
	The major issue with coalitions is that you have massive ego problems.
	Oh, really?
	If you have people who are basing their image on I am not compromising, they're going to destroy any form of society they're going to be part of, including parties.
	Notice a bit of that on both sides.
	Yeah, we're going to have to try and avoid ego issues and vote Farage.
	You think so?
	I'm joking.
	Oh.
	Farage is just a giant walking ego.
	Oh, I see.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I thought you meant for a second something else.
	But yeah, because the restore movement needs to be about policies and not people at this point.
	But I don't know.
	It's a good point, though.
	Is this a problem with Greek politics?
	No, I think that's a problem with human nature.
	Oh, right, okay.
	No, because if you have a lesson learned from Greek politics, to a degree, I think you have this in every sort of society where you have people coming together, forming groups, when especially they are from a particular area where they make their name and their audience in a sense and following from the image of I am not compromising.
	That's a problem.
	Because if, let's say, take lots of people from X now, if they say, right, okay, it's our side.
	Let us come and form a movement or something.
	And all of these people have formed their image out of I'm not compromising with anything.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's not going to work.
	Yeah, although the idea of the Tory party, you might ostensibly see it as kind of the ultimate vehicle of total compromise and pragmatism.
	But the Eurosceptics were massively uncompromising to the point they just destroyed everything, you could say.
	Yeah.
	The Tories, the only uncompromising thing the Tories are uncompromising on is compromise itself.
	So no, we're going to bend the knee to the left.
	We're not going to do anything else.
	We're definitely bending the knee to the left.
	So the Eurosceptic side was incredibly intransigent on Brexit.
	If you read like All Out War or something, to the point where they were like, you know, even if you're pro-Brexit or anti- And they won.
	but they won so the conservatives if they actually stood on a principle and actually like They can actually win.
	I think you're talking about a massive discrepancy here because you wouldn't expect from a right-winger to concede ground to leftist politics, which is what they did.
	We're talking about policy and goals within a particular framework.
	Within the people who are defined by saying we're not that thing, because we're all about our integrity.
	And then you get this breakdown of tiny micro-parties.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And everyone screams at each other.
	Everyone else is content.
	Does Greece have proportional representation?
	No, we have the main party that wins a bonus of plus 50 seats in the parliament because that's a good idea, by the way.
	Because the people in the constitution who drafted it were saying that there's zero way Greeks are going to come together and have a majority government, so we need to boost the first party.
	Right.
	We would have chaos all the time.
	That's interesting.
	We've got a very old and boring voting system.
	So we always get a winner, basically.
	It's very rare to have coalitions.
	But you saw how many votes Farage won relative to the Lib Dems and how many more seats the Lib Dems had.
	No, we're testing the limits of it now with the new setup.
	Isn't that the base virtue of the first-pass post system?
	Anyway, we are going to have to end it there because we're running out of time.
	But anyway, thank you, Nick, for joining us.
	And we will be back in half an hour for Lads Our Way.
	We're going through Spider-Man 3.

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