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Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome to the podcast The List Ceases for Wednesday, the 2nd of July, 2025.
I'm joined by Harry and Stelios.
And today we're going to be traveling back in time to the beginning of the Blair era.
Let's see how that all worked out.
You were covering something horrible, Stelios, weren't you?
Yeah, but I think let's just say something horrible.
Stellios is going to be.
I'm covering Pride Month.
Oh, yeah.
And you're going to cover Elon Musk's latest ego trip.
Yes, that appears to be what it is.
Yes.
Yeah.
That's absolutely true.
Anyway, so yeah, it's going to be a fun podcast today.
So let's begin.
So what I'd like to do is take your minds back to about 1997.
This is the Labour Party's party political broadcast.
Now, as you can see, I'll just leave this playing in the background.
It was a different time.
I've muted it because the song that's playing is, of course, D-Reem's Things Can Only Get Better.
And this is the kind of cheesy old world style that we used to have before Tony Blair took over.
There is the man himself.
And in fact, I'm going to skip forward a bit just so you can see how this ends.
Someone's going to the poll and they're voting.
And it's Blair himself.
He's voting for himself.
Do it.
Sign Tony Blair.
He doubtless, I mean, you would vote for yourself, wouldn't you?
But anyway, so Labour won that and won with a significant margin as well.
For some reason, I can't move forward.
What's about this one?
Nope, that doesn't work.
They're not working.
Right, okay.
So this is on the BBC website.
Look at that.
BBC.co.uk, politics97.
I love that a lot of the image links are just broken at this point.
So this is from the old internet, right?
So for any youngsters out there, this is what the internet used to look like.
Brings back memories.
Giosity's pages and things like this.
But this is a BBC report, as you can see, on the election.
Seems to me, this is what the internet should still look like, frankly.
I can see why it doesn't look like this.
Look what they took from us.
I can see why it doesn't still look like this.
Because it's corporate, it's homogenized.
It's been gay-opt.
It's been made slick and shiny, user-friendly.
It used to be absolutely hideous.
This isn't even an archive.
This is just on the BBC website right now.
The direct link is just to the BBC website.
Gorgeous.
It's amazing.
But anyway, I'm going to read out from this, just because you can see the tenor of the reporting as well, right?
As dawn broke over London, the Labour leader addressed a cheering crowd of Labour activists at the Royal Festival Hall.
The British people have put their trust in us.
It's a moving and humbling experience.
We have been elected as new Labour and we will govern as New Labour.
And boy, didn't they just.
For the Conservatives, the result is a disaster.
A record six cabinet members have lost their seats.
Michael Portello, Malcolm Rifkind, William Waldgrave, Michael Forsyth, Tony Newton, and Ian Lang.
Brutal.
Half the cabinet has got slaughtered in this.
John Major, who was the former prime minister at the time, said, Tony Blair inherits a country in extremely good economic shape.
Can you even imagine having a country that was in extremely good economic shape?
Well, I was one when this happened.
We will have to regroup.
To be in opposition as a party is an honorable way of life.
We will look back with some pride at the changes we've made to our country in the last 18 years.
So you can see this is coming off 18 years of Thatterism.
And yeah, Britain was in a much better economic state than it is now.
Just when it comes to sort of people's prospects and the way, you know, the raw GDP was probably lower because we hadn't crammed in 15 million foreigners into, you know, the tower blocks in London.
But people felt like they had more money.
People didn't feel like the future was going to die.
Well, I mean, I'm sure in real terms, GDP per capita would have been...
I didn't even think to check, to be honest.
Potentially better.
It's more the sense of the environment, because at the time you had a kind of social movement called Cool Britannia, where you've got the Spice Girls and Oasis and Blur, and, you know, with lots of cultural exports.
And everyone felt quite confident of the future, which is what Tony Blair rode in on.
Because John Major, stodgy, grey, conservative, he was the old way, right?
But this is cool Britannia.
This is the future.
We're building a better Britain here, folks.
Can get worse.
It can only get better.
Only get better, exactly.
Definitionally so.
Did you not hear the song?
Right.
And notice that John Major's like, well, you know, we'll look back with some pride.
We'll regroup.
We're going to be vigorous opposition.
You can feel how genteel this is.
No one's screeching that the other person's a racist yet, right?
John Major's still alive, isn't he?
Bloody hell he is, and he's 82 years old.
Yes.
And he's even more desaturated than he was when he was young.
I don't remember last time I heard about John Major having any major complaints about where this country has gone since Blair.
Well, he was complaining that things are starting to become more right-wing.
Of course he was.
The thing because of that always makes me wonder if things had would have actually gone any different.
If things would have gone a different way if Major had stayed in as prime minister, if the Conservatives hadn't had a major loss.
It wouldn't be better if Major had lost in the 90s.
Or if or if we'd just be in the same place.
To be honest with you, there was a kind of prevailing zeitgeist that Tony Blair rode in on.
We'd probably be in the same place.
I think the same.
Yeah, roughly.
Because although in the 90s, as you say, people weren't as crazy as they are now, all of these things took decades to build.
Well, the trends are still there.
In fact, I'm going to read another quote from this article, right?
Quote, Labour also made history in other ways, with the first Muslim MP and the first gay man to declare his homosexuality before being elected to parliament.
Isn't that hilarious?
Like, yeah, we know that most of the Tory parties gay.
They declare it after.
He kept it behind closed doors, at least.
It's exactly the same rhetoric.
I did probably find a bit more of a thrill in it.
Exactly.
Yeah, but 30 years ago, it's exactly the same rhetoric.
Oh, they've made history with the first Muslim MP and the first openly gay MP being elected to parliament.
Isn't this just historic?
Isn't this just the right side of this?
You see, so this is why Stellis is probably right.
The same thing was happening then.
It was just, you know, the avalanche is rolling down the hill and growing bigger and bigger as it goes.
The Tory Party chairman, Brian McWinney, told the BBC that the British people had decided it was time for a change.
And what a change it's been.
In his victory speech, Tony Blair said they had a real sense of pride in creating a Labour Party capable of offering a vision of renewal that our country needs.
I won't let you down.
And my God, didn't they?
So, okay, I can't use that, can I?
Right.
So one of the things that we learned in 2009 is that the Labour Party decided they were going to throw open the borders.
The era of mass migration begins in the early 2000s with Tony Blair's new labor.
And they did it specifically to make the country more multiculturalism and, quote, rub it in our faces.
Andrew Neither, the former advisor to Tony Blair, Jack Straw, and David Blunkett, said that the huge increase in migrants was partly due to politically motivated attempts by ministers to radically change the country and rub the right's nose and diversity.
The point, he says, I remember coming away from some discussions with a clear sense that the policy was intended, even if it wasn't its main purpose, to rub the right's nose and diversity and render their arguments out of date.
Oh, well, that's great.
I love having my nose rubbed in it by the newly elected government.
Are our arguments out of date or completely vindicated?
Well, no, no, but the thing is, it did render the sort of conservative arguments at the time, which were very weak, out of date.
But the thing is, the amount of immigration that has happened has also rendered the Labour Party's own arguments out of date, as Morgoff pointed out.
Well, I mean, depending on which Labour minister that you were listening to, there was in Douglas Murray's book, Strange Death of Europe, I've seen a lot of people posting about this recently because I'd forgotten that he mentioned this.
There was that minister, I think, was she just in charge of immigration, Barbara Roche, who was one of the people to really help the Labour government open the new Labour government open the floodgates, where she had explicitly said that she felt more comfortable in a multicultural London.
Well, they definitely created a multicultural London.
But Carl and Harry, I think what is interesting here is that it's also the Tories right now who are in the middle of the middle.
So it's not just the Labour who had the same goals back in the past.
They thought that it wasn't yet the time to come out.
Tony Blair captured the Labour Party with the installation of Cameron, right?
So the Conservative Party.
So the Tory Party had a choice.
They could go into sort of based right-wingness or gay left-wingness.
And they chose David Cameron.
So gay, left-wingness.
And as you can see, like the world that they've created, I mean, it's just spectacular, isn't it?
Ilford is basically Pakistan.
Yeah, this is the UK that they have manufactured.
And this is a great, great summary of everything, right?
You've got the old English guy trying to fix up the plaque of Sir Admiral Edward, whoever, I don't even know who that is.
And coming out of the door is just some ghoulish foreign woman.
Why is she even here?
But you can see like the COVID managerial signs on the thing going, oh, watch out for, watch out for COVID.
You know, the government is always watching and the general sort of dilapidated state of the country.
And I love the replies that this one got because I saw this one when it got posted, like this guy here just basically saying, one of my favorites you've posted in a while, admiring it like it's a piece of artwork.
It is a piece of art.
Yeah, it kind of is.
It is.
And again, like you can, you can just go through this whole account just to be like, yeah, this is the country that they've created.
And so the question is, well, what's happening now?
The new statesman, for example, asking, is Blairism still the future?
Are the Blairites still the future?
It's like, how could they be?
They are the past.
They are the people who have made the country as rubbish as it is.
This is all a product of Tony Blair's complete capture and the kind of new Labour zeitgeist that swept through the country beginning in 1997 and progressing until now.
Because, of course, the current Labour Party is exactly a product of that.
And the thing is, as well, the new Labour, the Labour Party and this whole zeitgeist is going to crash in the same way the Tories did in 1997.
Half a dozen cabinet members are going to lose their seats, just like in 1997, where half a dozen cabinet members lost their seats.
The wheels are coming off of this thing.
The zeitgeist of the country has shifted.
It's like, right, okay.
The potential energy that was expended in the new Labour government has run out.
And so now they are at the end of their tether.
They're like, right, we've done all of the same things over and over and over and over.
And it's producing absolutely atrocious results.
It is producing a country that is dilapidated, that is impoverished, that people are fleeing and have a kind of general like tone of disgust towards.
Because, I mean, if you read through this, like the general tone was one of just quiet sort of nobility from the Conservatives.
And everyone was just kind of like, yeah, you know, Britain's quite good.
We're quite happy.
Everything's functioning relatively well.
And now the country is just disgusting and filled with strangers and everyone can see it.
And so they're like, well, are they still the future?
No.
You're the people who created this terrible state of affairs, uncontested.
There's no one else that you can pin this on, in fact.
So the question is, how quickly can you be wiped out and gotten rid of and relegated to the dustbin of history?
And so you then have, where are we?
Yeah, so the issue that they have is that they can see that the wheels are coming off this completely, right?
And this is a Labour MP, and sorry for the bad language, but I'm going to play this from the news agents, where they are desperately struggling to try and find a reason as to why things are terrible.
I'm going to put it bluntly, crudely.
Are things shit?
Yeah, I think lots of things are pretty shit.
And it's why you need a government with the determination to un-shittify it as quickly and as radically as possible.
And if you talk about from a polling perspective, I know what the consequences will be if we can't start to show real progress on this in the next few years.
Nigel Farage could be running this country and think about the devastating consequences of that man running this country, breaking more things than he fixes.
But that's going to happen unless we can start to get more money into the pay packets of working people.
We can stop those boats crossing the channel or significantly get the numbers down.
When people go and smash up their local co-op or ATM, nothing seems to happen.
We need to fix that problem and the petty crime problem.
People feel like their local communities are looking worse, looking more run down than they used to.
And whenever you interact with a public service, it doesn't seem to work to show progress on those issues.
And that's how parties in opposition normally speak, isn't it?
When you don't have the power.
But you do have the power now.
Labour does have the power.
So, I mean, has this year been squandered?
So I'm going to pause it there just because that, I think, summarises exactly the problem.
The narrative is we haven't been blair eyed enough.
Well, I don't even know if that's even the narrative.
Because blurism is the waters in which they swim, right?
So I don't even think they can name exactly what the issue is.
But look at it.
It's like everything is terrible and we need to make it unterrible as quickly as possible.
But all we can do are the same things that have made it terrible over and over and over.
And we have no plan.
We don't know what we're going to do.
And I mean, look how like nervous and out of sorts this guy sounds.
And Emily Maitlis is like, well, Hangan, you sound like a power in a party in opposition.
It's like, yeah, because you kind of are in opposition because the machine of Blairism, all the Quangos, all the extra governmental and bureaucratic organs that were set up, yeah, they're all moving forward.
And Kierstan has been like, Hang on, we can't keep doing this.
It's like, sorry, this is the plan.
And so now they've got to be like, we need to stop all this.
We need to make a change of some sort.
But they don't have anything they can change because they're completely constrained within their own paradigm.
And so what can they do?
What are their options?
They don't have any options, actually.
And I think this is why they're posting things like this.
I mean, again, these are the sort of old guard from the Blair era.
John Soper was thrilled, thrilled when Sunak was out, as if Sunak was substantively different to Kierstama in any way, shape, or form.
But now, oh, the political ineptitude and mismanagement of this is epic.
The whips office, Downing Street, DWP should all be hanging their heads in shame.
Truly disastrous Kierstama because they just can't do anything.
They're committed to the moral and political paradigm of Blairism, which is radical managerial liberalism.
And it's got to the point where, like, he's...
Look at that tear rolling down her face when Keir Starmer is trying to argue about his benefits cuts or something, some nonsense.
Again, all problems that were created by Tony Blair's government, exacerbated by the Blair-right Conservatives and inherited by Starma.
Are you sure this is why she's crying?
Or do you think she's looking at her Messiah?
No, no, no.
It does look like she's got some unrequited love for Starma going on here.
I'm not.
No, what this is, is desperation in the Starma bunker, right?
Because they have a very specific set of political tools to use.
Have you done Kier?
And well, no, the thing is as well, you've got to remember, these people are true believers, right?
These people are younger than Tony Blair.
They grew up in the shadow of Tony Blair.
And they looked up and gone and were like, yes, we're going to create the perfect Britain.
This is the new Britain project.
We're all in on this.
We believe in the unlimited, unfettered reign of human rights.
We can bring this into existence.
And it's all crumbling in front of their eyes.
And so in Parliament, she's looking at Kisel, yeah, we were going to do it here.
We were going to make the utopia.
And the tear rolls down her eyes, but there's nothing they can do.
And so what comes next?
Well, not Nigel Farage.
He will be the next prime minister, I think.
But even he understands that he is actually containment for the Blairite project.
Even he is, in his most honest moments, an avowed anti-racist.
Nigel Farage has made it clear over and over and over, he actually completely supports the international liberal project.
He actually is one of those people who say, oh, I will not have any truck with those far-right types.
And he gets offended.
He's mortally wounded when he's not treated as part of polite society and called a racist.
He hates it, right?
I mean, this is a direct quote from him.
Farage hopes that young men will turn to him to give them a voice, because if you don't, wait till what comes after me.
Those who tried to demonize me could be in for a terrible shock once I'm gone.
That's why we say we believe that we are the last chance to restore confidence in the democratic system to change things.
Or what does he mean when he says the democratic system?
Because it's not like elections are going to stop.
We'll still be voting for people.
It just won't be a liberal democracy.
It won't be a Blairite democracy.
It'll be a democracy voting for people who are further to the right than Farage, because almost everyone in the country is actually further than the right to Farage.
So this is just the latest thing that Restore Britain have posted.
I like this.
Oh, yeah, it's very good.
It's very good.
But you can see how this is in direct opposition to the Blairite project.
No, the human rights of the criminal come first in the human rights lawyers Blairite project.
No, not anymore.
The traditional, and notice how ethnically particular this is.
An Englishman's home is his castle.
Yeah, I don't care what the opinions are in Spain or in Holland or whatever, but in England, if someone breaks into your house, I'm going to effing kill you, right?
That was the traditional historic opinion of the average Englishman and still is.
I mean, one of the big benefits of abolishing things like the use of reasonable force to defend yourself from a managerial standpoint is the fact that, well, if you're not able to defend yourself legally, if I've made it illegal for you to defend yourself, well, I guess you can only come to me, the state, with now a much more rigorously enforced monopoly on violence.
So you're going to have to let me into your home to oversee and make sure that you're safe constantly.
Correct.
And if people are allowed to take this kind of executive action in defense of their own homes, then you can see how the state's power wanes.
I don't care what the state has to say.
When someone breaks in, I'm going to kill them.
If you've got control of something in your own personal or private life, that's one less place where the managerial state can shove its nose.
Exactly.
And it's also the telos of the paradigm of human rights to try and essentially make it so no one is really a criminal, right?
Because even the criminals have human rights.
They are just the victims of society.
This is why Kirstama let out a bunch of, you know, murderers.
I mean, the criminals all have a backstory, Carl.
Haven't you watched Aladdin?
Exactly.
They're not really responsible for their own agency.
And therefore, actually, the real people who are the problem are the people who support the system.
The taxpaying, law-abiding citizen is actually really kind of responsible for the criminal themselves.
So this is why all of these people are just, in fact, more important than you are.
And as you can see, I mean, Farage would never sign off on this, right?
He would never sign off.
This is way too based.
And then the next thing is, of course, restores net negative immigration.
As in, immigration has to go down because we need to get some of these bloody people out of our country, right?
That's what this is about.
This is much, much, much more nativist.
And the businesses can feel that it's coming, right?
This is from Bloomberg the other day.
The golden age for employers is ending.
Because of course, and I love to point this out, if you're a socialist, if you're a left-winger, you are the tool of the capitalist because you're a moron.
They knew, and I'm just going to quote a length from this actually, just so I can rub it in your faces.
For as long as most of us can remember, business has been able to call on a ready supply of foreign workers.
So all of those mass immigration lefties, this is what this has been doing, right?
I know you thought you were rubbing it in the right's nose, but you were also reinforcing international capital.
Am I wrong?
No.
Is there literally anything else to object to there?
No.
It's precisely what you do.
They knew this.
I think even Bernie Sanders knows this.
They did, but then they got intersectionalized.
And suddenly it was like, oh, but more racism.
There is the very famous clip of Bernie Sanders getting pushed off of his own stage by insane intersectionalists.
That was in Phoenix, Arizona.
I remember it well.
And he was too much of a coward to stand up for himself.
My little cuck position.
Yeah, by his own moral compass, well, it was only right for him to step aside and let these people take charge, right?
Exactly.
Anyway, I'm going to read from this because you'll see that the tide is turning, right?
One result has been an astonishing demographic transformation.
16% of the British population, 20% of the Swedish population, 19% of the German population, and 14% of the US population were born abroad.
This golden age for employers is coming to an end.
Popular discontent with mass immigration is rising.
Anti-immigrant parties are flourishing and mainstream parties are finally taking note.
In Britain, for example, 67% of people say that immigration is too high.
The anti-immigrant reform party is well ahead in the polls.
Donald Trump is not the only leader who's clamping down on immigration.
Mark Carney in Canada has imposed a temporary cap on foreign workers and international students.
Britain's Kier Starmer has spoken about the danger of Britain turning into a nation of strangers.
He also said, and I think this is the more important one, that it had done incalculable damage to the country, which it has.
We are witnessing a paradigm shift when it comes to mass immigration rather than a temporary change.
It is difficult to accept the old promise that diversity is always a strength when you are confronted with grooming scandals in Britain's immigrant-heavy northern towns or gang wars in Swedish suburbs.
Remember that the restrictionist regime the US put into place in 1924 remained in operation until 1965, despite a system of mass production based on manual labor and a generally buoyant economy.
Companies may expect the consequences of the paradigm shift sooner than they expect.
In April, net migration in the US slowed down to an annualized rate of 600,000 from 4 million in 2023.
That's crazy.
The flow of illegal immigrants across the border has trickled under Trump from the millions it was under Joe Biden.
Net migration in Britain halved last year and fell by an even larger percentage in New Zealand.
So how should companies cope?
Well, two strategies strike me as essential.
And this is where the genuinely international and just vampiric perspective of business comes out, right?
First, they need to start treating the supply chain of talent with the same thoroughness as they treat the supply chain of materials and parts.
Why was this not always on the table?
As something that needs to be carefully planned and constantly repaired.
Domestic supply chains, he goes on, but he then says, tap into the neglected pool of talent in working class communities by sponsoring charter schools, endowing university scholarships, or spotting and then sponsoring talented students.
You're going to have to rely on your own people in the countries.
That's what this comes down to.
You won't have an unlimited supply of foreign workers that you can exploit against the native population.
This is going to come to an end.
It's interesting to contrast this with that Times article by William Haig from the other year, where he was making the argument that the age of migration was only just beginning.
Yes.
Which is basically he was saying it for the exact same reasons that this guy is saying, that business would want it.
Yes.
But this guy is honestly taking a more clear-eyed view on things.
So no, the era is coming to an end.
William Haig, again, being a man of the Blairite era, being marinated in that political environment, is like, no, no, we need this for the economy.
Look, you don't understand, right?
This is all, this isn't even about the economy anymore.
This is not about the goddamn economy, right?
This is about the culture.
This is about the country.
This is about the future we're leading to our children.
And you've got some people who are starting to see it, right?
Seething paddies like McTernan.
But formerly Tony Blair's political secretary.
This is true.
So part of the Blairite era attempt to rub diversity into our faces.
Isn't he the man who wrote the concept of the ethnically?
We will get to that.
We'll get to it.
So he is panicking because he can see that on the right, there is a new movement that understands that identity actually is important.
And what an ethnic identity is, is exclusionary to other ethnic identities because they're, of course, defined in opposition to one another.
And so he's fuming, freaking out.
And there we have it.
Rishi Sunak is not English.
Yeah, obviously.
Rishi Sunak is Indian because Matt Goodwin went on the spectator and talked to Michael Gove and just said, well, Englishness, being English is an inherited ethnic identity.
And it's not just something you can switch into.
I love the little bit he finishes with there.
Also, according to this blood and soil definition, nor are most Londoners, myself included.
Coming John McTernan, who I'm sure you've got it somewhere.
I do have it.
Yeah, has pointed out that he's Irish.
He's from London, but he's never English.
He's Irish.
But if that means that, okay, so your Irish ethnicity can carry over no matter where you're born, what further implications can we draw from this?
I mean, there are loads, to be honest.
Which one in particular are you thinking?
Well, I was mainly just thinking a complete contradiction of his idea that ethnicity in general is an evil concept.
Well, I mean, where he says here, races and ethnicities don't exist.
No, they don't exist.
I'm Irish and I'm not English.
Well, what he's doing there is saying for you, races and ethnicities don't exist.
For me, they absolutely do.
So the English have no claim to England.
I, a Londoner, an Irishman, absolutely does.
I think the main takeaway from this is that people like McTernan are absolutely filled to the brim with ethnic and historic hatred for the English and want to enact some kind of revenge on it because of his ancestors' experiences with the English, despite the fact that there are still plenty of excellent and patriotic Irish people out there.
Like I pointed out, there's the contrast between somebody like Maternan, who is an Irishman born in England, or Morrissey, an Irishman born in England.
There are different types.
Absolutely.
But the point being, yeah, as the thing he says here, the concept of ethnic English is truly evil.
Well, truly evil to what?
You know, truly evil to the English people having a categorically evil.
He means ontologically.
He doesn't mean categorically evil because it would have to then follow that his own ethnicity was also evil, right?
Because it'd be the category of ethnicities that is evil.
But he's not saying that, right?
What he's trying to do is philosophically and conceptually dismantle your attachment to the country itself, to your own ethnicity, to your own group, to ensure that what he is doing is opening up now a sort of free land, a frontier that can be exploited.
That's what he's doing.
And so he knows that the concept of ethnic English is truly evil to that project.
Remember, he was a Tony Blair advisor during the era where they were rubbing it in our faces because they wanted to render our arguments out of date.
And the thing that renders his argument out of date is the English saying, well, hang on a second.
We are a collective entity and this land is our land, not your land.
Do we know why he was giving advice to Tony Blair about?
Well, he was a strategic advisor.
But I don't know why he's like this.
It was Blair who signed the Good Friday Agreement.
I don't know.
I'd have to look it up.
I believe it was from 2005 to 2007, perhaps.
You can fact check me on that.
But if so, I think that's after the Good Friday Agreement.
But the point is that the entire point of this was to make sure that the English are essentially dispossessed of their own ancestral land.
And let's remember as well, McTernan is the same man who, in an interview with GB News last year during the controversy with the farmers, said that we should do to the farmers what Thatcher did to the miners.
Oh, that would be.
So in more ways than simply this, just trying to deny you your idea of Englishness, he is trying to promote ideas that will truly destroy this country and destroy those people who are still tied to the land.
Yes, because his entire project was to make this a multicultural civilization.
And you can't do that if people feel possessive over the country.
They're like, well, now we're English and this is England.
This belongs to us.
It doesn't belong to a bunch of foreigners.
We're not going to give it up.
And so this is why Nigel Farage is like, look, you know, what comes after me?
Nigel Farage is not concerned about demographics.
He has said this.
He's not concerned about this.
This is not something that's in his mind.
However, it is something that is in the mind of Restore.
And so he understands that the end of the liberal anywhere international man is coming to an end.
Nigel Farage is their last gasp because they have this kind of tone where it's like, we're the new men, the new feminist men from the labor era.
And then on the other side, you've got the men behaving badly.
And Nigel Farage is the men behaving badly coming up to try and save the failing paradigm.
And you know what?
No, the failing paradigm has to die because the people who created the paradigm themselves were just evil and wanted to steal your birthright from you.
And they can all feel that this is coming to an end.
I'll leave that there.
Got quite a few rumble rants.
Yeah, so it's good news, basically, on this segment.
You know, Stelius says, Stellios, sorry, Crash Burn says, Stelios, stop this merciless and sadistic bullying of Harry.
No more hanging on hooks and nonsense.
I'm not reading that.
Habsification says, the new labor and blairism are end of history politics, and the end of history is coming to an end.
Yeah, exactly.
They can feel that this is coming to an end, and that's superb.
Drunk Changeling says, Lewis correctly realised that in a quangrocracy, we do not need our own parties.
We need our own quangos.
That's interesting, actually.
Yeah, there's a lot to be said about it.
As an ardently Anglophile Dutchman who grew up in the East Midlands, do I still get to move to my beloved England once you reverse the Boris wave?
As long as you've got an English wife.
You're Dutch.
Is there anybody outside of Britain more blood-related to the English in general?
Not really.
So I've got no problem.
Maybe the Danes.
It's really close.
Yeah, you're from the based circle, so it's fine by the way.
But I refuse Dutchmen on the fact that they're weirdly tall.
I've got no problem.
Yeah, well, I'll be in charge of immigration.
This isn't South Africa like 130 years ago.
I think we can put any problems with the Dutch behind us.
No, we can't because the average height is like six foot three or something.
It's ridiculous.
Oh, I'd be average height over there.
Yeah, exactly.
It's unbelievable.
The engaged fee says, I traded part of my life for my property.
A thief says, your life is mine.
The thief enslaves me and therefore can be the only one response.
And there can only be one response to enslavement.
That's the moral argument for defense properly.
Yeah, I mean, that is, but I just, it's mine.
Fuck off.
I wrote that in lock somewhere too.
No, I know it's actually what he said.
That's basically what he said.
He said it a bit more like old-fashioned than how he said.
It doesn't work now, no.
It didn't work.
What about mine?
I can pull it out and Put it back in.
What if we just tap on it very hard?
Try.
Oh, wait, there we go.
Mine's working now.
Why have we got dice here, by the way?
I don't know.
Try rolling and see what we get.
It's six.
Oh, six.
Okay.
Okay, yeah, it's working now.
Also, I'm not bullying Harry.
Just saying.
Not directly.
Can you tell them, please?
Tell him.
Tell him I'm not bullying you.
How many people legitimately think there is something?
Anyway, let's carry on.
Tough task there, mate.
Got your work cut out for you.
Just Elon.
All right, then, folks.
So what a wild and wacky ride it's been so far this year.
Can we all take ourselves back to the Halcyon days of October and November last year?
I really am.
2024.
When Musk and Trump were best buddies, it seemed like summer was going to last forever.
It did.
And now, now we're in the dark days because not only have they had quite a public breakup, but also now it seems that Elon Musk is going to start to try to primary Republicans and come the midterms and maybe even start his own defiant protest party, which I'm going to dub the F-Your Own Face Party for now.
He's apparently going to call it the America Party.
Just call it Libertarian Party 2, electronic vehicle subsidy boogaloo.
And let's just take a little bit of a reminder of some of the rifts that started to form almost immediately, even before Trump was sworn in.
So back in January, well, at the end of December and then the beginning of January, Elon Musk had a big freak out.
He had this big meltdown on Twitter about, on Christmas Day, in fact, it was, of people who were criticizing him for being supportive of the H-1B visa scheme, which was the international skilled workers visa scheme, where people come in for supposedly skilled work,
including things like fry cooks in fast food restaurants, basically expanding the labor pool in America to the entire globe, as long as the entire globe is applying for it, and then making it so that you can get cheap labor from anywhere in the world, because as everybody knows, America is the global pit stop.
It's the global gas station, or at least that's what businessmen would like to treat it as.
Steve Bannon went very angry at Elon Musk for all of this.
He said that the thing of H-1B visas, the entire immigration system is gamed by tech overlords.
They use it to their advantage, and people are furious.
Now, Elon Musk, he deleted all of the tweets related to this, but he never...
He basically tried to immediately change subject.
He pivoted to the Grooming Gangs.
Yeah, it was immediately after this that he pivoted to the Grooming Gangs.
I've been told by people that there's evidence that he has walked it back.
If there is, please send it to me because I haven't found it anywhere.
He just deleted all of the tweets because he was presumably drunk on Christmas Day and decided to pick a fight with the internet.
And then he moved on.
Although this one was a bit cringe, to be honest, because Bannon decided to accuse Peter Thiel, David Sachs, and Elon Musk, because they're South Africans, white South Africans, of all being racist.
So of course, Bannon had to go real boomer.
He had to go real boomer with it.
Aren't you racist?
I assume he would say no.
Oh, okay.
He cares about Americans of all stripes.
But isn't that racist against non-Americans?
Americans can be anybody, Carl.
As long as you get in legally.
Either way, so that was one of the first big things.
Then there was also since then, Elon was going on with his Doge project, and one of the things that he was doing with Doge was getting rid of a lot of the DEI programs.
Well, stuff I totally support.
Yeah, which a lot of people see as one of the ways that he was still trying to be on everybody's side.
Although, to be fair, these departments were complete wastes of money, made everything less efficient, waste of everybody's time and money.
So therefore, there was no reason not to get rid of them.
But of course, since then, Doge has quietly been sidelined, which was one of the things that Musk got very annoyed at.
And a lot of the money that was being saved is probably going to be spent again as part of the Big Beautiful Bill, which is the big thing that's separating them now.
And after the massive fallout, which mainly came as a result of the Big Beautiful Bill, and Elon Musk's hatred of the idea of raising the debt ceiling by $5 trillion, they had another big falling out.
And this was the last big falling out, where Elon did some rather impolite things, like imply that Donald Trump hadn't released the Epstein files because there was incriminating evidence on Donald Trump within those files.
Now, to be clear, we've not had the files released yet, so we don't know.
We know that his name is in there on some documents, but we've known that for years and it's all very non-incriminating stuff.
So Elon Musk basically called Donald Trump a paedophile.
He's deleted that tweet since then, but this article from Politico, which to be fair, just seems to be a former friend of Musk's who wanted to air some dirty laundry.
So take it with a pinch of salt, but he seems to be predicting what I think is the case and seems to be true anyway, which is just that once you're on Elon Musk's bad side, he will hold a grudge for years and will try to destroy you.
According to this guy, Philip Lowe, who's a Silicon Valley founder, he's going to do everything he can to damage the president.
Seems to be coming true right now.
You don't accuse somebody online in front of an audience of millions of being too high.
I mean, I remember this and I remember people who rushed out and said, well, Elon has left his son with Trump several times.
And this has been recorded and camera.
So that seems to be a weird accusation.
But I think when it comes to the bill, if I take out the element of Musk as A person and what he did.
I think when it comes to the bill, Trump was also a lot of people expect from Trump to deal with the debt and not just increase it just like that.
And it looks like several people, people from Trump's circle, have essentially implied that give us more money in order for us to do our job.
And I can definitely see how libertarians, the sensible one, not the ones who look at Millet and say, I don't like it.
You know, I can definitely see how they would say, for instance, that, you know, you're not, we don't gonna, we're not gonna support you for doing your job.
We're not gonna give you extra money for doing your job.
Well, it seems that it was mainly the tech bros, like Elon Musk and some of the others who were mainly on this reduced spending, get government out of the way with regulations.
That was the policy platform that they were looking to support.
And it's worth bearing in mind as well, and remembering that Elon Musk donated $288 million towards Donald Trump's election last year.
So he put a lot of money into this, and he's feeling quite betrayed because he didn't get to do as much with Doge as he was hoping for.
And then Donald Trump turns around and does this whole thing with the Big Beautiful bill.
Although I will say, just in Donald Trump's defense, he's basically the spokesperson for the bill.
If I asked Donald Trump to tell me exactly what was in that bill and any other member of the US government, frankly, I think they would be able to give me a quick list of bullet points that are not reflective of the entire thing.
These things are written to be as obfuscatory as possible, after all.
So Donald Trump, I imagine an aide told him this bill will do this thing, this thing, and this thing that is popular with you and popular with your base, and then just left some of the rest of it out.
And Donald Trump is assuming with the debt ceiling raise and everything that the American system, given that they are still the global reserve currency, given that they are still the superpower, even if they've got trouble with Russia and China, can basically weather whatever inflationary damage might come of increased debt.
And there are some reports, according to which the big beautiful bill includes funding for child transition.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Billboard crease has been constantly...
Yeah, but you increase something for them to do their job, which it's just textbook statism.
They constantly don't do their job and then they tell you, give us more job in order for us to do ICE do their job as much as they can, right?
Yeah, they can.
These are fair criticisms.
But obviously, the way that Trump is selling it is that it's going to do all these things.
For ICE, it's going to make it so much more efficient to get people out of the country.
And whether or not people, there were some factions within his larger coalition supporting him and voting for him so that he could reduce spending, I'd say it seems the vast majority of people were going on a more nativist deportations platform.
There were all of those signs at his rallies where people were holding up signs saying mass deportations now.
It wasn't reduce deficit spending now.
That wasn't the main sign I saw people holding.
MAGA is an American nativist movement, first and foremost.
Yes.
But it has annoyed Elon Musk and it's not going away.
He has started to renew his attacks recently, especially after in the Senate, they've been able to push the bill through.
So as of today, Wednesday, at the time that we're recording this, the House of Representatives, so Congress, is going to be starting to debate and vote on it at the moment.
Elon Musk has said that if this bill gets passed by Friday, he will be starting his new party by the next day.
Donald Trump, after...
Yeah, Donald Trump, after seeing all of this, Donald Trump has said that Elon Musk might get more subsidies than any human being in history.
He was going to bring that up.
And without the subsidies, Elon will probably have to close up shop and head back home to South Africa.
No more rocket launches, satellites, or electric car production, and our country would save a fortune.
Perhaps we should have Doge take a good hard look at this.
Big money to be saved.
Asked later if he would consider deporting Elon Musk.
He said, I don't know.
We'll have to take a look.
Oh my God.
Okay.
I was going to mention this.
That's pretty brutal.
Elon makes billions out of the US government.
I mean, I would imagine that a significant portion of his net worth is tied into US government contracts.
Not just subsidies, but for SpaceX and other companies that he owns, government contracts.
Imagine Trump deport Musk back to South Africa and Musk returns to the US with refugee status.
Can I have my party now?
I'm going to show you just how weak this system is, Mr. Trump.
And what are these posts that Elon has been doing?
Because Elon tends to go on these spurg outs where he will get into a manic phase and go on the same thing for like a week straight.
But he's like a dog chasing cars.
So the week after, he'll tend to change subject entirely and forget that he ever spoke about something the week before.
But to be fair, deficit spending, the budget is something that he's been very consistent on.
So he's constantly posting things like this over the past few days, reposting Milton Friedman talking about inflation.
He retweeted this Mario Norfolk, who's one of the biggest Elon Glazers out there, posting about this Rand Paul speech about the deficit spending within the bill.
Here's another one that Elon retweeted where he was saying like, oh, it's going to potentially get rid of hundreds of thousands of good paying construction jobs.
And it's a trade union saying that.
And here's another one that Elon retweeted.
Mario, he just constantly gets these retweets from Elon where they're saying that, oh, there's $6.16 trillion spending versus $4.47 trillion revenue.
So you've got this massive deficit between those two.
I mean, they're not wrong.
No, I'm not saying that they're wrong.
Also, this, the $5 trillion proof that America needs a third party, Elon is right.
Third party.
Hollowing Shows that 60 to 70 of Americans desperately want a viable third option.
There are third options, just nobody votes for them.
Hell now, and they did say viable.
Well, that's true.
And then you get Mario doing some good old-fashioned dick riding right here.
Elon never wanted an EV mandate or a mandate or subsidies.
And this little clip of Elon saying that if you limited EV subsidies right now, Tesla would do better in the market.
But that's not the only thing he gets from the American government.
There's also all of those billions of dollars contracts that he gets from them as well.
So at least 38 billion.
All the Elon Infospace, no radio general say Washington, D.C. has fallen.
All of the US is going to say Trump needs to go.
Elon must come forward.
SpaceX and Tesla have both apparently benefited heavily from federal loans and grants, according to Chat GPT.
So I think he's doing a bit of biting the hand that feeds right here.
Although, to be fair, at the same time, American government really relies on him.
And to be fair, this is completely ridiculous.
But I don't think it's going to be a vote winner.
I suppose when Elon's past has shown that he's more than willing to tell you, I'll get it up in a moment, to F your own face if you aren't happy with him importing cheap labor into the country, that's going to stand out more in Americans' mind than here's this number that is so huge that you can't actually conceptualize how much money this is.
The thing is, all of this to the average person, as real as it is in terms of potential future consequences, is incredibly abstract compared to what they're concerned with now, which is the state of the jobs economy, the jobs market more than anything, and their local community, illegal immigration, all of these problems that Trump got voted on.
This was only part of it.
I really don't think that these are separate issues because the more debt you have, the more taxes you have to pay.
And I have a sense that the Americans hate paying taxes and they should.
And they hate taxes.
Oh, they definitely do.
So it's not something that people don't mind.
This is just as long as it is.
And the other bit is you could just, you know, whether you, whatever Elon said last Christmas, this is an issue, that that is an issue.
I'm not saying it's not an issue.
I'm just saying.
Even Trump was saying that I am going to control the debt.
I'm saying that if he's going to go single issue on this, which is what it appears to be, that's not going to win anything.
That is not going to win.
That's true.
Single issue.
Everyone treats it as a single issue.
And again, he's saying basically, I'm going to ruin people over the budget.
The other problem is that Elon has no skill whatsoever.
We can see this through his rebranding of Twitter as X for aesthetics.
The man is a cringe lord, right?
He posts stuff like this.
Anyone who campaigned on the promise of reducing spending but continues to vote on the biggest debt ceiling increase in history will see their face on this poster in the primary next year.
Liar voted to increase sympathetic with him.
And he says, pants on fire.
Well, again, the fact of the matter is that American politics in particular, all democratic politics really, is kind of an aesthetic competition, a little bit of a popularity thing.
Donald Trump inspires people through his incredible rhetoric.
Elon Musk is very off-putting, frankly.
I've always found the guy pretty off-putting.
And this kind of thing won't really connect with voters, especially, again, when it is with such single-minded, single-policy focus.
I mean, he did also...
Because I think Elon's forgetting that his popularity is not based in I would be a good governor.
His popularity is based in I am this esoteric genius that can get things done, right?
That can make like, you know, space X happen, whatever it is, you know, Tesla, all that sort of stuff, right?
Which is nice as a kind of, I don't know, almost like a kind of sideshow in the sort of like the way that 19th century inventors, right?
That kind of thing.
So, you know, you've got like Nicola Tesla and stuff like that.
Yeah, they're popular, but do I want him as the president?
No.
Yeah, but also I can't believe that only people from the US voted here.
Well, yeah, obviously, yeah.
That's why I'm very skeptical.
Yeah, yeah, well, he should actually know.
Oh, is it time for you?
Just asking everyone in the world, should we start a new party in America?
You know, Malaysians, Singaporeans, most favourite ones.
Yeah, Pakistanis.
Yes, we want a third party.
Yes, Elon, do it, do it.
Elon doesn't really authentically represent America either.
Also, Franklin.
Press Trump does.
Frankly, a lot of this just comes across as an ego trip.
Yeah.
You will want the party about this one issue that I really care about, right?
And this new party will be run by me.
And it's like, dude, there is already a party that cares about the deficit beyond anything else.
They're called the Libertarian Party.
So you could join them.
You could put hundreds of millions of dollars behind them to get their candidates to primary Republicans in 2026.
But you're not going to because you wouldn't necessarily be the front and center face of this whole thing.
That's how it comes across to me.
There is also another thing because Elon is definitely not stupid.
What he could be doing is he tried to harm Trump in the primary next year.
So he could be basically try to blackmail him that way.
It's not an issue of him wanting to actually body.
It's like, I'm going to do enough harm for you to lose the next elections.
Yeah, he did the Vox Populi, Vox Day.
Of course, I love the will of the people when it reflects exactly what I want.
If you don't want to be replaced in your fry cook job by a foreigner, then too bad.
That's not the will of the people.
I am the people.
This is going to be a huge waste of money.
Yeah, again, this is where he's like, oh, the America party will be formed the next day if the spending bill passes.
We'll see.
We'll see if that actually happens because I have a feeling it might.
I have a feeling it's got through the Senate.
It's probably going to pass.
Yeah.
But who's going to lead it?
Because Elon Musk can't actually become the president.
No.
So who's going to lead it?
I guess we'd find out.
Also, again, Elon, if you want to support these, just fund the Libertarian Party.
That's literally the party that care about everything that you care about.
Yeah.
Okay.
But again, remember, just like this is what he was saying back in December when he had his Christmas crash out.
The reason I'm in America, along with so many critical people who bought SpaceX, Tesla, and hundreds of other companies that made America strong is because of H-1B.
That's not true, Elon.
You did not come through to America on an H-1B.
Take a big step back and F yourself in the face.
I will go to war on this issue, the likes of which you cannot possibly comprehend.
So remember, Vox Populi Vox Day, F yourself in the face.
Vox Populi Vox De, F yourself in the face.
This is not a very consistent man with his principles, frankly.
And I think one of the best things I've seen regarding this is this joke from Fraser Payne.
We did it, guys.
We balanced the budget.
And here's his enthusiastic constituents.
Again, this is not in America for the MAGA voters, which are the majority party of the right wing right now.
This is not the one issue that is going to get them going.
Stephen Miller has also pointed out, of course, it had to be Stephen Miller.
Say, I care about what the people care about, not you.
The libertarian delusion is that there is a large political constituency for their ideology.
It doesn't exist.
Libertarians have never performed nationally above a number rounding to zero.
And when libertarians run for presidency within the GOP, they're the first ones out.
Whether you agree with the morality or correctness of that or not, it's true.
Yeah.
Frankly.
I agree with Yuri Besman of the libertarians live in a fancy world where communists will leave you alone.
That's true.
Yeah.
That's absolutely true.
Well, somehow Millais doesn't live in that fantasy world though.
Yeah, it's a different context.
Yeah.
And this guy, I just saw this pop up and I thought it was pretty funny where this guy was saying like, okay, here's what happens.
Elon starts a party.
He gets 20% of the vote, mostly from Republicans.
The Dems win a super majority as a result and the Dems throw Elon in prison.
Elon jokingly responds, and that's just earlier last month.
Yeah, pretty much.
And then he's like, oh, God.
Oh, God, I don't think he listened to me.
He must have forgotten.
But there's already signs that this might have just been another one of those things where Elon decides to make a load of waves and then does nothing about it because he's already starting to try and play nice with Trump again.
Saying credit where credit is due.
Donald Trump has successfully resolved several serious conflicts around the world.
So was this real?
Was this all just a big show for Kfabe?
Is anything going to happen on Saturday if the big beautiful bill passes on Friday?
I guess we'll find out.
I just find that this man is just ridiculous and off-putting to me at this point.
JM Denton says, Elon is a baby that crashes out routinely.
But the worst part, he wants Infinity of Indians who are no doubt the ones supporting his new polls.
Yeah, go for it.
Either that or bots.
Yeah, well, the thing is, he has got 200 million followers.
Oh, yeah.
It's not that he isn't super famous, but I always think, okay, so, I mean, in fact, the engaged shoe says cocaine may be a hell of a drug, but Elon is showing us that ketamine is no slouch.
I'd be shocked if he wasn't taking drugs, frankly.
I mean, we know he takes ketamine for medical reasons or something.
The point is, it's going to, you know, and the amount of pressure that he must be under all the time is not natural, right?
And the amount of visibility that he has all the time is not natural.
Well, the thing is.
EngageFewer said, cocaine may be a hell of a drug, but Elon's showing us that ketamine is no slouch.
Listen, I know ketheads.
I have met many cat heads in my time, and it will F you up.
There's one incident that is stuck.
Oh, Jesus Christ, Stellias.
There's one incident that's stuck in my mind.
I went to a garden party at a friend's one time, right?
Some guy shows up halfway through, like a friend of a friend, and he'd been taking kets since the day before.
He'd been up over 24 hours, was ketted out of his mind.
But he seemed normal.
Oh, yeah.
Right?
Until he opened his mouth and he was speaking sentences, except it was as if you jarbled and jumbled all of the words.
So it was a full sentence with all of the words out of order with one another.
But other than that, he was like perfectly calm and seemed reasonable.
He just couldn't talk properly because his brain had been completely fried.
So it can really fry your brain.
Moving on.
Right.
So it's the 2nd of July, which means that June has passed.
And I think that Pride Month is a stupid institution.
And it's just, it's ridiculous because you have people saying we want to be left alone.
But on the other hand, they want the whole month and everyone to look at them.
You thought that Pride Month made you gay?
No.
Are you Greek?
Yeah, I mean, it's the best of both worlds.
I thought Blandole says.
Sorry.
Yeah, just feel happy now, feel proud of your joke.
The more you make fun of Stelyos being Greek and therefore possibly gay, the more likely he is to be gay.
I'll start Greek maxing now.
Beware in the toilet next time I see you there.
Why is that directed at me?
More bullying.
Right, okay.
So this year it had no momentum.
At least that's how I feel.
No, I didn't see anything, really.
Yeah, I didn't see anything.
Therefore, it didn't happen.
Yeah, basically.
Good enough for me.
Yeah, so I think I want to explain why it didn't happen, but I want to torture you by showing you some pictures of this here.
I was really kind to not show you lesbians kissing.
That's why I scrolling down.
I'm not a bit of it, probably.
Is the list offensive?
Okay, maybe.
Are they bearded lesbians?
Yeah, yeah, lesbian.
Right, okay.
So this is from Reuters.
Look at this here.
Oh, God.
Is this segment going to be you showing us horrible pictures and going, look at this?
Nothing is more right-wing than this sort of stuff.
Right.
I swear to God.
So, this is just not good.
Right.
Okay.
So, remember and never forget that the left wanted you to be that guy over here.
Yeah.
So we have the one and only fake women's news magazine.
Okay.
This is real.
No, no, this is a fake, this is a joke.
But they do want us to be that guy.
They do want us to be that guy.
And they did want us to be that guy.
And lots of people actually were that guy because there was a woman there or someone else or in their business or something who literally colored them and told them to celebrate Pride and celebrate all this thing and play along with it.
It's metaphorically true for basically every left-wing man in America, right?
It's clubbed down by the matriarchy.
Yeah, yeah, most leftists.
But what happens, I think that Pride has taken a double hit.
It has taken a hit from the left and also a hit from the right.
And speaking of the hit from the left, we did this last year, Pride Gone Fuba.
And we spoke about the...
Is this snot coming out of nose?
No, it's a business thing.
Yeah, some weird nose ring thing.
Yeah, right.
So what happened last year was that they started having an inner fight.
The pro-Palestine crowd with the gays and the lesbians, they started fighting and, you know, the pro-Palestinian.
Monkey's on the deck in the Simpsons.
Yeah, because gays and lesbians were like, we just want to have fun and be gay.
And the others say, no, you can't have fun because Palestine.
So it erupted.
What about the gays in Palestine?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So this trash is what the left has been in favor of this year.
Bob Villen being explicitly anti-white and anti-English patriot.
And also, yeah, he was an English mum.
Yeah, many such cases.
So that was the more, that's the face of the left for 2025.
Yeah, yeah.
And the face of the left in 2025 isn't necessarily, it's not like anti-straight people now.
Now it's anti-white people.
Yeah.
That's anti-white people.
He's explicitly into this racial dynamic now.
I mean, it always was there, obviously, but it was very focused.
And in the mind of Biden, all of that were the same because all of the things are connected.
Intersectional, isn't it?
Intersectional.
Yeah.
Right.
So here we have the grifter of the year, Grada Thonberg, with a kefir saying how basically LGBT pride should happen in Budapest.
She attacks Victor Orban, neglecting the fact that last year it was actually the pro-Palestine crowd, the Kafiya crowd, who were against the gays and the lesbians.
But this is in line actually with woke operation and the view, because what they want is they have different groups that are incompatible under the same coalition, the protected people of the left.
They're incompatible, and every time their incompatibilities become evident, their modus operande is to do exactly what Greta Thunberg does here, find a common enemy, project all the blame to them.
It's whiteness, it's urban-ness, it's Hungarian-ness, it's anyone that is not part of them.
I mean, it's just a coalition of freaks and outsiders, so they have to.
Yeah.
But also there have been some hits from the right, and especially from Trump.
This is before Trump, the White House before Trump.
But this year, it wasn't celebrated.
And there were several things that happened under Trump.
I'll just briefly mention them.
So we have here from Pink News, this celebrated publication.
FBI staff instructed not to celebrate Pride in any official capacity, according to leaked email.
We have here University of Pennsylvania bans transgender athletes from female sports and revokes some of Leah Thomas's records in Trump admin deal.
So I'm just reading from here.
Don't start telling me Stellius this, Stellius that.
Don't, you know, I'm reading.
Transgender college swimming champion Leah Thomas has been stripped of some of her records after the after UPenn caved to pressure from the Trump administration.
The Department of Education announced it had reached a deal with the university to ban trans women from competing in women's sports.
Oh, yeah.
To restore trans women's swimming titles to their cisgender or non-trans competitive.
I can feel Trump talking about the art of the deal.
He wouldn't think.
But this is great, right?
A return to common sense during Pride Month.
Wrecked.
Yeah.
Like, that's it.
It's over.
You know, you open the art of the deal, number one.
Just say no to wokeness.
That's page number one.
Right.
We have here U.S. Navy is going to rename ship named after Harvey Milk.
They're going to rename it.
I think that this is a very sensible thing because when you have a ship, you want the ship to represent a sort of might or something.
You know, I'm serving on the U.S. Gerald Field.
I don't know.
The name of a gay rights activist for a naval ship might be quite appropriate, actually.
Why?
Well, you know, in the Navy.
Come on, Harry, no.
You can't say this.
Britain had been a maritime empire.
Yeah.
From sodomy and the lash.
We did them all.
Go.
You just got a good point.
Why do you think that the public schools Eaton was so well known for was preparing them for a life on the sea?
You have the HMS Jimmy Savile coming out.
Oh, no, that's too far.
That's just too far.
Is it too far?
Or is that what went around and came around?
So I decided to quickly look up who Harvey Milk was because I wasn't aware.
But you didn't know.
No, no.
I don't follow the gay rights movement that closely.
Did you find out about his 16-year-old boyfriend who killed himself?
Yes, I did.
Yeah, there you go.
Through Snopes.
Harry's a working archive of these things in speciality gay nut is in Waima.
got a documentary coming out about it anyway it is true that in 1964 the Thank you, Snopes.
It is true.
That's all the okay.
Right, also some other stuff.
Trump administration to shut down LGBTQ plus suicide prevention hotline in 30 days.
This is to an extent misleading.
They just banned the TQ Plus, and the Trump administration essentially said, just call the LGB brand.
It's don't need extra funding for this.
Right.
So.
I thought that if you were like in the TQ Plus and you called up the prevention hotline, they just turned you all.
I thought you could say something worse.
I mentioned this before and this mentioned this before and on the other side.
No, no.
Yeah.
So there is also a dark side into this and I think people should people who want to get informed a bit should get a bit more informed.
Sorry.
Billboard, Chris, says here, the big beautiful bill is funding child transition through Medicaid.
Why aren't any conservative media outlets writing about this?
This is not acceptable.
Definitely check this out.
It seems to be like a story that is worth researching.
Hound, just so I'm clear here.
So Trump has basically been like, right, no, none of this LGBT nonsense to hell with Pride Month.
But for some reason in the Big Beautiful Bill, there is pro-child transition stuff.
And like I said last segment, I doubt anybody actually knows who wrote what's in the entire thing.
There'll be a team of lawyers who are most familiar with it, who will then just give bullet points to the department to happen.
Yeah, but I think it's a principle stance to care about children and say about all things.
Listen, if there's one thing that libertarians got right, it's that legislative bills should just be a single page.
So that you can't just waste everybody's time and mislead people with these ridiculous things.
Anyone should be able to read it.
Right.
So I want to appeal to people's common sense now because I think that with these organizations and movements having less political support, lots of things are being unearthed now and they are very inconvenient.
But you could have seen them coming from a mile away because what comes around goes around.
So when people want you to be that guy, as I said in the beginning of the segment, just say no.
And when they want your children to be that guy over there, again, say no.
And start being very cautious about what people are trying to push to you.
Because wokeness and all this bit has been, I think, incredibly unpopular.
Now that the Biden administration hasn't been pushing it, you see that its momentum has sort of died down.
Well, it was purely a top-down thing, from what I can tell.
Without institutional support, it's just, it becomes very clear that it's a bunch of freaks wandering about in the streets.
It's not that there isn't like, you know, it's not that these things wouldn't happen, but it'd be very small and very localized to certain areas, right?
So like, you know, it'd just be, oh, here's like, you know, a gay bar that has a pride parade going down the street.
I was in Manchester a few weeks ago and there was some trans protest going on against the Supreme Court decision in the UK to recognize women as part of the equality bill, whatever it was, whatever the decision was that basically was anti-trans, right?
And that shows to me that the Supreme Court's doing it, the top-down, overwhelming top-down institutional support isn't there anymore.
So I went to see this protest and it was like 50, 60 people tops.
It looked pathetic because, again, once you lose that support, all of a sudden, the government and their agencies and all sorts aren't padding out your numbers with extra people in these protests anymore.
You don't get all of the cameras showing up so that they can broadcast it to make it seem like a bigger thing.
It's just a bunch of weirdos walking down the street, chanting slogans.
And of course, they were mainly chanting for Palestine anyway.
No, I think if you resisted this, you should hear this as a badge of honor.
But I think that there were people who just really played along.
And they also took children to several of these.
For a lot of them, it'll be just, oh, this is the cool, popular thing that the government and the media is focusing on.
Therefore, we're going to go down to it.
But when that stops being the case, this thing will just drop off.
Exactly.
Yeah, but people should start basically paying close attention to what is happening in front of them.
And I think, you know, when you have people should start asking, you know, you have some people who want to create organizations who have access to small children.
Isn't that a bit suspicious?
Yeah, but we've been down this road.
Yeah, we've been down this road with disastrous outcomes.
So, you know, you have people, you have images like this.
You know, there's nothing, there's nothing okay.
There is nothing normal about this.
Yeah, it's disgusting.
Yeah, you have drag, you know, all this.
We've covered this.
Children should be there.
Right.
We've covered this, but we have all this.
So we have some things that are being unearthed in the months that have passed.
Here we have Stephen Arland, founder of an LGBTQ pride organization who was sentenced to 30 years in prison for raping a 30-year-old child boy.
12-year-old, it says.
What did I say?
30.
Sorry, apologies.
12-year-old.
Now I see where the title of the segments come from.
Yes.
So let's look at what happened here because just bear in mind that this was a man who was supposed to be the diversity and he was supposed to be above criticism if you were right-wing or not.
These were people that were, in a sense, immune from criticism.
So a man has been...
A man has been jailed for 24 years for raping an extremely vulnerable 12-year-old boy after the pair met on a dating app.
What was the 12-year-old boy doing on a dating app?
I don't know.
Yeah, what was he doing on Grindr?
Is this just a common thing that 12-year-olds can get on?
Yes.
So when people should be extra cautious what they're doing with their children and where they're taking it.
Right, Stephen Arlen, 41, who co-founded Pride in Sarai in 2018, raped the child at the flat he shared with his then partner and co-defendant David Sutton, 27-year-old in Odlestone on the 19th of April 2024 after messaging them on Grindr.
So you have this case over here.
You see them and basically it has been a case of grooming and they have been accused of having explicit photographs of really nasty stuff.
And remember that this person had sorry police in his pockets whilst encouraging people to report misgendering on some hate app.
So just bear that in mind.
And lots of people who are doing this have been known to have been paying the police to turn a blind eye.
And we have seen this trend with disastrous consequences, not just in cases of this sort that are from, you know, that have an LGBTQ plus mention.
We've seen it also with the grooming gangs cases.
Right.
So sorry, this was a bit confusing to me at first.
So, right, so he's worked with Surrey Police and they have a stop hate app.
Yep.
Right.
Okay.
The reports non-crime hate incidents or whatever bully things there.
Right.
Okay.
What a shock.
And I'm going to end with this article who was written, who was, that is a report again about people talking to the council that this person was acting suspiciously.
This guy's a non-suspicious guy was abusing power and all of them were ignored.
Well, there we go.
Why?
Because they weren't allowed to question the paradigm.
In the paradigm, some people are about criticism and even any kind of suspicion that they are abusing their position constitutes transphobia, homophobia, Islamophobia or whatever.
There are more important things than that.
Public security and the safety of children is way more important than all of these ridiculous phobias.
And the same thing basically happened with LGBT Youth Scotland.
If you look into that, the founder of that basically turned it into a mini Epstein ring.
Oh, really?
Yeah, what a surprise.
Yeah, so don't take your children to places where they could be exposed to heightened chances of becoming victims of really bad people.
Sophie says, Denmark just released a list of what countries you're allowed to hire cheap labor from.
It's a very short list with only nine countries, such as Japan, Singapore, and England.
We are going to take cheap English labor, lads.
You're the Poles now.
Poland's probably richer than us per capita at this point, to be honest.
I mean, Poland's able, I was reading an article in Foreign Affairs, and Poland's able to spend, it was like $4.00 on its defence, because obviously all of the countries are upping their defence spending.
So the fact that it can spend such a huge amount of money on its defense suggests it's got a pretty decent economy.
Poland's economy is just skyrocketing recently.
Beware of Greeks bearing lube, boys.
According to QA Rimblefranc, honestly, I'm looking forward to English people going over and colonizing Poland and setting up English shops in Poland so they can go, oh, this is really annoying, just like we have to over here.
Let's go to the video comments.
Fellow Americans, it is with overwhelming enthusiasm that I am declaring that anyone who protests or interferes with ICE and their operations is officially gay, big time.
With that being said, go ahead and call your dads, tell them about your alternative lifestyle as a gay communist, and then who knows, maybe eat a lollipop.
I don't know what flamers do with their time, but I'd imagine it's something along those lines.
Maybe decorate a bathroom, who knows?
Not AI.
I can't believe that's a real clip of Donald Trump.
Let's get to the next one.
Y'all remember that theater kid-led Jaguar rebranding a year ago?
Well, the numbers is in.
It ain't good.
Since then, their stock has dropped over 30%, and the sales have plummeted, selling as few as 49 cars in the month of April.
By the way, in hand, this might actually be a good thing.
Jaguar is making a very public ploy to move up market to compete with Bentley and Rolls-Royce, and that ad campaign was clear to their attempt to ingratiate themselves with the aristocracy.
So this could be a bellwether indicating the aristocracy's tastes are moving away from progressivism, but inversely, it's clearly another English institution in ruin.
And as a lifelong Jaguar fanatic, it pains me to say that Sir William's project may not be very long for this world.
Yeah, but Bo's going to cover it in much more detail tomorrow because he's been going through it because he's been very much on the same page.
So we'll see that tomorrow.
Let's go to the next one.
We're going to throw a Bentley mentioned.
Yeah.
And manufactured in my hometown.
Right, right.
Hello, Lotus Eaters.
No plants today, just depression.
I wanted to compare the UK to California in size and population.
Full stats on screen, but essentially the UK is half the size of California, but you have 70% more official population.
That makes your population density 300% higher than the sanctuary state that welcomes invaders.
You have a decade if you're lucky.
No, no, no.
The next thing to do this is actually take England itself, because England is one of the most densely populated places on earth.
Because actually, most of the immigrants don't go to Wales and Scotland.
It's actually mostly in England.
Oh, yeah, that's a good point.
By far, you know, Scotland's only got like 8 million people in it.
Scotland's pretty big.
Obviously, it's quite big.
And most of the northern reaches of Scotland are pretty uninhabited as well in the Highlands.
So it's an even smaller distribution of that population.
You're right.
Unironically, California refugee, go back and look at it with just England, and then you realize how bad things are.
And everyone's like, oh, wait.
I saw a thing on Twitter yesterday that was like, if we don't continue with migration, then Britain's, in fact, let me get there, then Britain's population by 2100 will only be like 48 million or something.
But if we do continue with migration, it'll be 86 million.
I'm like, yeah, but I'd love 48 million.
That sounds brilliant.
I mean, the actual population of native Brits in this country is still, what, 41, 42 million?
Yeah.
Well, no, no, no.
44, 45 in England and Wales, I think.
Oh, okay.
Well, it's still been very consistent over the past few decades.
It seems that that's where our population, at least in current circumstances, levels out.
You don't want it 86 million?
What would be wrong with that?
I don't want 86 million people in this country.
We've probably already got 86 million people in this country.
we probably do.
But I love the fact And Germany is massive.
There's 20 million more than France.
And France is massive.
Yeah, I know, right?
But what I love about it is the sort of like, wouldn't it be terrible if this didn't happen?
It's like, that sounds like a dystopia.
That sounds like the worst possible outcome.
Why would you think that this...
Honestly, we don't want that.
Anyway, Chance says, when Britain is restored, do you think immigration from the Commonwealth will be retained?
It's mine and my wife's dream to move to England in the future.
Yeah, I imagine so.
I mean, I imagine that, you know, like Rupert Lowe has said this.
I do think that, you know, targeted high skill, blah, blah, blah.
So I would hope that some sort of cultural compatibility measure would be there.
I mean, I don't care if a few Canadians move over.
No one complains about the Aussies.
Just don't get in charge of the NHS.
Yeah, yeah.
Good God.
Omar says, employers were experiencing a golden age in hiring, like coin clippers experienced an increase in wealth.
That's a great, great analogy.
The historical punishments for devaluing the currency were rather harsh, to put it lightly, and people are beginning to notice.
Well, interfering with the money supply used to be in the 17th and 18th century a hangable offense.
You used to be killed if you did something to screw with the economy in this country.
They'd just kill you.
Because it's like, look, this is the Commonwealth, literally.
It affects everybody.
Exactly.
So it was like, no, you just get killed.
Charles says, I was at school with Haig, William Haig, I think it is.
He hasn't changed.
I believe it.
I love Warlord Wutu Tai says, I love how Chris Curtis says, we need to stop the boats and then immediately has to sheepishly qualify it with or get them significantly down.
Yeah, I know, right?
It's insufferable.
It's like, no, we just need to end this paradigm.
It has to come to an end.
Michael says, if Trump was in the Epstein files and was shown to be a nonce, the media would have released it on day two.
Yeah, why would Biden not have released this?
Why would they have sat on this?
The reason I've seen some people theorize would be to hang it over his head.
But I mean, if they were hanging it over his head, they've not done anything useful with it yet.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, they lost.
You know, they could have destroyed him as a candidate.
And they could have redacted any of their own friends out of it and just got on, right?
Baron von Warhawk says, we had a good thing, you stupid son of a gun.
We had advanced, we had doge, we had everything we needed, and it all ran like clockwork.
You could have shut your mouth, cleaned the government, and saved as much money as you ever wanted.
It was perfect, but no, you just had to blow it up.
You and your pride and your ego, you just had to be the man.
If you'd known your place, we'd all be fine right now.
Donald Trump confronting Elon Musk after they're falling out and not actually a scene from Breaking Bad.
I could imagine it.
I picture it in my head.
Trump must be just like, oh my God, man.
You know, Elon's going off on a tear again.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Can I just deport him?
I think back to that picture from the campaigning where Donald Trump was on stage giving a speech and Elon Musk came on stage and did his little autistic jump and you catch Donald Trump kind of giving him the side-eye like, what the hell are you doing?
What kind of jump was this?
Yeah, I think that photo summed up the relationship going forward, the Donald Trump residual embarrassment with everything Musk was doing.
Elon Musk really needs to just be quiet.
It was at that point that he became the friend you don't want people to see you hang out with.
Yeah, because again, like I said, I think he's like a dog chasing cars.
One week he'll be going after one, then he'll get distracted, go by another one, and then he's intermittently likely to have a big public blow-up and then try and take it all back the week after as well.
So I'm beginning to feel that just anything that Musk starts to attach himself to is going to be discrediting to that thing because Elon Musk comes across like a crazy person halfway.
He can't control himself, right?
He needs self-discipline.
He needs to understand that other people's opinions and reputations matter.
And that's the thing that Elon's like, oh, I don't care about my own reputation.
I'm Keckius Maximus.
And he needs to stop herding weird e-girls that he's impregnated into little compounds like self-governing pregnancy farms for himself.
That just comes across as a bit weird.
Just a little bit.
It's just a bit weird that I've got a village of my little harem of single mothers that I've impregnated.
And he's even having sex with them.
I've heard that he's not.
Yeah, I've heard from you that it's all IVF.
I mean, I've just heard from the internet.
So I don't.
Okay.
So, I mean, don't take my word for it.
You're right there, Stelios.
Yeah, I just found something about Rachel Reeves crying.
I don't know if it's the time to mention it.
They're saying that's from Politics UK.
The UK government bonds have spiked following images of Rachel Reeves crying.
The pound has also lost value against the Euro and the US dollar.
Yeah, because they can't do anything outside of the system.
They are the system.
The system is destroying us.
And also, these people are just completely incompetent.
And also part of the system.
It's not even that they're incompetent.
They can't do anything.
A huge amount of the system when it comes to the finances...
That's the definition of incompetence.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
That's not fair, right?
So, you know, if I handcuffed you and was like, right, okay, now do some labor or something.
You'd be like, well, I can't.
I'd be like, well, you're incompetent.
It's not that you're incompetent.
You're literally hamstrung by the thing.
But I mean, they chose to be a part of the system.
But they are also still incompetent.
I just want to be clear.
It's not that they're not incompetent.
Sorry, God.
I was just going to say, basically, a lot of the global economy is built on a confidence game where it's all about trust, the confidence that you can inspire in others.
Like, the pound is worth as much as it is is because the UK government is believed to be able to back it up.
And if Rachel Reeves is weeping on camera very publicly, that shows investors, people with guilts, all these things that maybe, maybe there's something going wrong here.
And I should, oh, this guilt, maybe I should get rid of it.
Maybe I should sell it on as quickly as possible.
So, you know, people might dump stuff.
You can see it's the entire system itself, though, right?
Like everything around there, just like, okay, it's coming down.
Oh, yeah.
As far as I'm concerned, the international financial market is completely fake.
All of the money that is circulated is fake.
Is he wrong, Stellius?
All of the confidence that they're generating is fake.
The currency that underpins it all, the dollar.
Everything you know is wrong.
It's fake.
How much of the dollar is actually like liquid circulation and how much of it is just like fake numbers on spreadsheets somewhere?
William asks, does anyone know why Stelios looks like an action hero today?
I think it's the hair, but he looks really macho.
Well, I did pass him on the stairs earlier.
I was like, are you Diogenes maxing?
No, I'm Europe maxing.
I did ask if he was going through his depressed geography teaching phase.
No, no, no.
I didn't like this.
It was a very tough thing to read about, the segment I did.
I've been there.
Yeah, but generally speaking, I'll start Europe maxing.
Jordy Salzman.
He's going through his existential phase.
Jordy Salzman says, the only negative consequences an Englishman should face for disemboweling a burglar is having a carpet in dire need of cleaning.
Yeah, obviously.
And I do actually genuinely love John Locke's reasoning on this.
Look, if the guy's prepared to break one law and rob me, what other laws is he not prepared to break?
I don't know.
But the economy is going to be in circulation.
You need people to clean up.
I've just figured it out.
This is a result.
Obviously, you already knew this, of the further feminization of politics.
But why?
Why?
What do women expect from men?
Money?
Yes.
And the ability to read minds.
Good point.
Women assume.
Yeah, okay, yeah, that you should just be able to read the burglar's mind.
Yeah, didn't you know beforehand that he wasn't going to murder everyone in your house?
No, I fucking didn't.
You need to be two steps ahead.
But no, that's a good point.
But I'm totally in favor of this, though.
I'm so glad.
Because do you remember a few years ago when the guy, this old chap, some young guy broke into his house and he killed him with a screwdriver?
Yeah.
And he was arrested and everyone freaked out.
And like Godfrey Bloom was like rattling a saber at a camera like, oh, it's my God-given right as an Englishman.
And I was just like, yes.
100% Englishman.
As was Jesus, given that he was God.
Yes.
And 100% true.
And like, absolutely are ancestral rights to do this.
Don't break into my fucking house is my answer.
You know, if you don't want to get disemboweled.
And so, yeah, no, I think it's superb.
And I really want to push that hard.
Same bring the death penalty back, to be honest.
Lord Nerovar says, well, I do.
Carl's going to have them on the Iron Maiden Chamber.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
We don't torture.
I mean, that was French, wasn't it?
Yeah.
We don't torture.
We just hang publicly and cheer.
I would personally hang Axel Ruda Cabana.
Absolutely.
Why wouldn't you?
Who would have any moral compunction about that?
If you were going to do something like that, though, you'd have to take a lottery to who gets to pull the lever.
Who gets to do it?
Everybody wants to be tortured.
Lord Nerevar says, the age of migration is over.
The age of remigration has begun.
Except we're the good guys.
Yeah.
Someone online says, we know Stelios hit Harry with a brick and blamed Harry's daughter.
You can't fool us.
Yeah, you've still got a marker.
I know, it's still very, very slowly going.
This is like Elon Musk when he was in Trump's office with the black eye.
I'm really hoping it's not just a scar because people are going to ask me for the rest of my life if it is why it happened.
And I'm going to have to come up with something way cooler than my daughter hit me with an application.
Someone broke into my house.
Yeah, yeah, it was done defending my family.
Yeah, it really wasn't my daughter taking advantage of my prone position.
You have evidence.
I have not been able to nap around my daughter ever.
You can't.
It's the same with my wife and our daughter, though, because she'll be watching this tablet when my wife's trying to have a bit of a nap.
And if it doesn't go on the thing she likes, she'll literally pick it up and smack it on my wife's face.
And so she just can't nap around her.
So is it your kids that are posting?
No.
You're sleeping and your kids are not.
No, no.
I personally don't like them using the tablet, but my wife's like, oh, I need a bit of sleep.
So, you know, whatever.
But then just smack in the face.
So, you know, it's karma.
Not a Fed says, I'm so sick of denounced leftists infiltrating right-wing politics, then spurking out when they learn what we actually want in right-wing policies.
Yeah, that's another thing, isn't it?
It's like, Elon, like, what did you think you were signing up for, brother?
You know?
Yeah.
Like, it wasn't H-1B visas.
And I tell you what, I really enjoyed Bannon just flipping out over all of this.
Like, Bannon's anger at Elon was just really...
Yeah, sure.
But like, you know, when it first happened, Bannon was just like, oh, no, hell no.
You know, this is a line.
But first and foremost, big respect to him for this.
Bannon was caring about the well-being of American workers.
Yeah, and he always has.
Which is what they should.
That's what the movement is built on.
No, no, he always has as well.
Supreme General David says, looking forward to the UK's next submarine, the HMS Bonnie Blue.
That's it.
Say it.
Don't say it.
If you say that and come into existence, I'll hate you forever.
We do have a rumble rant this name.
Oh, do we?
Yeah, somebody's saying, Carl, watch your stream yesterday.
You should read Sword and Scimitar by Raymond Ibrahim.
Scimitar.
Sumita.
By Raymond Ibrahim.
Super bass.
I've had his books recommended a number of times.
It's all on the Crusades, but from a based Christian perspective.
Right.
I mean, I read a bunch of books on the Crusades.
Honestly, Tom Hollands were pretty good.
And there were a bunch of like I've got the Steve Runciman ones.
I've not read through them.
In fact, Harold Lamb is the one I'd recommend because he's writing like 100 years ago.
And so it's all old-timey language and also, you know.
We're the Crusaders, and therefore, here's the story of the Crusaders from our perspective.
Well, from what I've heard about the Ibrahim ones, it's like, if you want to read the history, but told like it's a massive action story, read him.
Which sounds cool.
Oh, yeah.
Well, Harold Lamb's very similar.
I mean, it's the Crusade, so like it is an action story.
Like they're sieging stuff and having giant battles and like raiding places.
So it is a giant action story.
I'll check out his books.
Yeah.
On the subject of Argentina, Michael says.
A friend of mine is an expat living in Argentina and says that the improvements under Malay are extremely visible.
I have a really good friend who told me basically that things are improving.
He found a job.
To be fair, there is a kind of optimism.
Argentina should be a lovely country to live in.
It should be amazing.
But I mean, it has had like 30 years of communist rule, keeping everyone.
So, like, yeah, so just I'm not going to impose communism on you.
Oh, look, everything's getting better.
Also, he doesn't go about the folklands that much.
It seems, I haven't heard that much about it.
Take that with a pinch of salt, but it seems to me that Kierstama is way more dangerous for him.
Kierstama is going hat in hand with the same thing.
Do you like it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's Mr. Malay.
God.
Okay, anyway, I think on that note, we're out of time.
So before Kierstama gives away the last of the Empire, thanks for joining us, folks.
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