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Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
Well done, you made it to Friday.
I'm joined today by Harry and Beau, and we are going to be talking about how nothing's happening in Iran, why we should be banning OnlyFans, and how actually they wasn't Britons.
No, they was.
Were they?
They were.
We're learning every day that the British and English have always been black.
Ah, which is why we're black now.
Right now.
Absolutely true.
Okay, well, apparently there was a problem with the chat, but I think there has been a fix for the live chat on the website.
So let us know, basically, if the chat's working or not.
And without further ado, let's get on to the non-happening.
Yeah, a little bit of one in the eye for the Nothing Ever Happens crew.
Damn!
Something has happened.
Or is happening, rather, let's say that.
Because overnight, or in the wee hours, Israel struck Iran.
But it's ongoing, though, it seems.
Yeah, before we went on, my Twitter feed is full of it.
They're calling it Operation Rising Lion.
Okay.
So, at the top of the segment, I want to say I haven't particularly got any love for the regimes in Jerusalem or Tehran.
Despite what the Gropers say about us.
I don't care what they say about us.
I don't care about you.
So just reporting on what's happening.
It's the big news story of the day.
Operation Rising Lion.
And it looks like, if you believe what's coming out of Jerusalem, that it's not going to be just one night of strikes.
Netty has really pulled the trigger on this thing, finally.
I think we might be going with an ironic thumb.
That says no one saw this coming.
Everyone saw this coming.
I wrote an article like three years ago.
And I've got no special insight, particularly.
Oh, there you go.
Nobody could have ever predicted Israel being aggressive towards its Middle Eastern neighbours.
Especially not Iran.
Even though Iran have been very bellicose in their rhetoric for years and Neti has been extremely bellicose back.
In their rhetoric.
Yeah.
It's the important thing here.
They've both been saying they want to screw with each other profoundly.
For years and years and years they've been saying it.
Yeah.
It's finally coming to a head now.
Netanyahu's been unbelievably warlike towards Iran.
It's a persistent thing.
his whole career as well.
There are clips back from the 1990s saying we need to It's okay.
See, to me, as an Anglo outsider on all this, it's just, in my mind, I conceptualise it as the market stall where the rug merchant and the gem merchant is just shaking fists at one another for years and yelling at one another, and it's finally come to a head.
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
So as I say, three years ago, I wrote this thing.
We were just talking just before we came on air that lecturers always put their own books in the reading list.
So I'm going to quote from Dade here.
Oh yeah, B-Dade.
B-Dade.
Yeah, I basically just said that one moonless night at some point, Israel's going to send 100, 200 fast jets to just screw with Iran's nuclear capability.
Nuclear, not nuclear.
I'm not even sure if I agree with that pronunciation.
Oh, really?
But they've done this before.
I took a lot of flack in...
No, but the point that they've done this, they wiped out Iran's entire nuclear scientists, didn't they?
Yeah, that's true.
So it's just like...
So since I first started making my notes this morning, it's upped from...
Now it's six.
Okay.
Where have you got this pronunciation from, Carl?
Nuclear?
Never heard that before.
I think council estates.
Okay, okay.
Now it makes sense.
One of my defenders in the comments was like, that's just his accent, bro.
Anyway, let's not get sidetracked on that.
So, yeah, they've taken out...
It's a tried and tested tactic.
Well, it's a good tactic, isn't it?
Yeah.
Right.
So they kept the leadership and it's less effective.
They've assassinated the head of Iran's army, the head of Iran's...
their...
The one Soleimani led?
Yeah, yeah.
I can't remember the name of it.
Iranian Guard Special Forces.
And three of their top guys, the Chief of Staff of the Army.
They haven't targeted the actual Ayatollah, Ali Khomeini.
They haven't taken him out.
But yeah, so trying to decapitate all the...
Well, yeah, maybe.
I mean, we saw some reports that Netanyahu himself is in the Israeli equivalent of Air Force One flying around.
Do you remember on 9-11, they took Bush up to put him on Air Force One and flew him around for nearly that whole day, most of the day, because you're actually, arguably, you're actually safer there if you control the skies anyway.
You're literally not on the ground, so they can't target you.
Makes sense.
Like this is a strategy map, Command& Conquer.
It's a bit, yeah, yeah.
Sorry, go on.
Hopefully secured all nearby pages.
Well, yeah.
Another thing it speaks of is Israel's intelligence services capabilities.
They knew exactly where all these guys were, all at the same time.
They are scarily good, aren't they?
And there's a time lapse, obviously, from missiles from Israel to Iran.
It's quite a long way.
It's like the whole of Iraq and Syria in the way.
So they knew, they know exactly what was going on.
So anyway, Bibi has pulled the trigger on this thing.
And it's what, I mean, the Iranians have just said, this is a declaration of war.
And it is, right?
It just is.
Of course it is!
They've already been at war, the proxy wars.
They've already been at war for a while.
This appears to be the declaration of a hot war, yeah.
Yeah, of the full hot water.
And so it always strikes me one point I want to make that I made in this article, that it...
I mean, you go back to the ancient Assyrians and their fighting wars in that border region, in those mountainous regions between what is today Iran and Iraq.
Well, the Persians are in Iran because of the Assyrians.
Right, yeah.
I mean, you can go back to whenever, the Elamites.
Yeah.
What did I talk about?
The Medes.
The Persians, the campaigns of Alexander, it goes on and on, and it's still to this day.
I mean, it's a small side point, really.
Yeah, but the point is, where is this going to go exactly?
Because it's not like Israel's going to send troops in to occupy the Tiberium fields or anything like that, is it?
So it's just going to be missiles raining down on presumably strategic targets in Iran to try and knock out their capabilities?
Okay, but what next?
Yeah, it seems extremely unlikely that either side will actually send in infantry divisions or tank columns against each other.
They sort of can't logistically.
Like you said, there's two countries in the way, right?
So unless Iraq and Syria are going to allow for just columns to roll straight through.
I mean, what are they going to do?
Is the Iraqi army just going to come out and try and stop the Israelis from rolling tanks?
That's the other thing, is that the responses to these kinds of aggressions are always incredibly weak from Israel's enemies, where they're just sort of like, well, I guess we lost.
Yeah.
Shrug our shoulders.
Well, we'll take that one on the chin.
Iran will fire some missiles back and kill a Palestinian man.
Like, okay.
Don't know why you're doing this.
Yeah, by accident.
Yeah, it's like, okay.
The Iranians did say, as they usually said, like, this is it.
That's the last straw.
Every time.
Every single time.
We mean it this time, guys.
We're raising the red flag of revenge now.
Okay, well, bad luck.
individual Palestinian man standing on the street, you know.
Unless they have already got...
I think we'd know about it.
Well, yeah.
Apparently they fired back something in the order of 100 drones, and I'm not sure any of them got through to Israel.
Okay, so the Iron Dome, was it?
Yeah, so the Iron Dome seems to be quite effective at doing its job.
Quite well, I mean, so far.
Iran did send that flurry of missiles, was it earlier this year?
Yeah, the one Palestinian.
Standing on the street.
A couple got through but didn't really do anything except to that one poor guy that it landed.
They seem to specifically target unoccupied areas.
Well, that was probably like testing, right?
See, if we fire however many, however many will get through in the future if we need to, but it all comes across quite muted.
It's a lot like the India-Pakistan thing.
I don't think the Iranians actually want war.
They just have to save face.
And so the Israelis, I think, actually do want war.
And so the Iranians have got to kind of, like, rattle their saber back, but they don't want this.
Well, I imagine that they don't when you've got, like, Lindsey Graham and others already going, all right, time for the bloodbath, guys.
Yeah, I just need to bathe in the blood of Iranians, says Lindsey Graham.
Like, hands on his cheeks, just like, what's wrong with you, psycho?
How does this establish American security?
American security?
Yeah.
What are you talking about?
You said anything about that?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, well, okay, let's mention the American response...
Actually, Samson, can you get the link of Trump's true social...
I believe it, to be honest.
Yeah, probably didn't.
And a lot of the world's leaders in the West, like our Prime Minister, are calling for restraint.
Like the Netanyahu or the Ayatollah are going to listen to that.
Well, I mean, it's the same as when Labour came out with a declaration that Israel needs to stop what it's doing in Gaza, and they carried on doing what they were doing.
What leverage do you have?
David Lammy, his words went unheeded.
I can't believe it.
So Donald Trump said this.
I gave Iran chance after chance to make a deal.
I told them in the strongest of words to just do it, make a deal.
But no matter how hard they tried, no matter how close they got, they just couldn't get it done.
I told them it would be much worse than anything they know, anticipated or were told, that the United States makes the best and most lethal military equipment anywhere in the world, by far, and that Israel has a lot of it and much more to come.
And they know how to use it.
Certainly Iranian hardliners spoke bravely but they didn't know what was about to happen.
They're all dead now and it will only get worse.
There has already been great death and destruction but there's still time to make this slaughter with the next already planned attacks being even more brutal to come to an end.
Iran must make a deal before there is nothing left.
And save what was once known as the Iranian Empire.
No more death.
No more destruction.
Just do it before it's too late.
God bless you all.
So, Trump sounds like a man who is not in control of his pit bull.
Right?
That sounds like that, yeah.
Just look, just lay down and he won't hurt you.
That's what he's saying.
I can't control him.
They've got loads of stuff.
They're going to carry on.
We've got apparently no rain on them.
We've already sold them all the hardware.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, a little bit ago there was news reports coming about some potential rift between Netanyahu and Trump.
Yeah, it has been.
Cut off communications, so could this be a consequence of that?
Or has there been a reconciliation gone on since then?
No, I did, but it just seems that what Trump is saying is America doesn't have any control over Israel.
Yeah.
I mean, we did a segment with Furez a week or two ago talking about some of the breaks between D.C. and Jerusalem.
Yeah.
And there have been some.
Yeah, certainly.
Again, normally Trump's a lot more sort of, I'm the guy in charge about these things.
Yeah.
And he sounds very much like, yeah, well, this is out of my control.
Good luck.
And he seems actually kind of sympathetic to the Iranians here, actually.
Well, I don't think that's a lie.
We tried to make a deal with Iran again and again, and they just sort of wouldn't.
Well, okay, it gets to that point of the question of, should Iran be allowed...
Should they be allowed to have nuclear weapons?
I mean, it's not wise.
I agree with that, it's not wires, but then, I mean...
Are we an imperial project?
Is Israel an imperial project?
Not just Israel.
Israel's one part of the imperial project that is the collective West.
And if we are, then we are going to have to start essentially imposing on other countries, no, you're just not allowed to do that, and we're going to make sure you can't.
Then like a completely independent...
part of it though.
And they do also have their own territorial They've got all of our equipment.
They're not completely independent.
They do have their own territorial aims as well, outside, like, grabbing a lot of the territory that currently composes, like, North Egypt.
Who's this?
Israel.
Yeah.
Israel.
It's the concept of a greater Israel.
they have that so Are we an imperial project, or are we the international liberal order?
So the international liberal order has got no way to say that Iran can't have nukes, but the imperial projects are saying, absolutely, you can't have nukes.
how dare you even think of it, and we're going to just come in and make sure it doesn't happen.
I mean, they have said over years that they would...
They refer to the Americans as the Great Satan.
They refer to Britain as the wily old fox.
This is the yappy terrier whose gates finally open and you've gone and booted him in the face and suddenly he's just found out oh wait, I am just a tiny yappy dog.
Because Iran is not a powerful state.
Otherwise the mullahs wouldn't constantly be rattling their sabres and then tucking their tails between their legs.
They'd be doing things.
They wouldn't be funding terrorism.
be rolling out armies.
But then again there is that argument of why shouldn't they have Is there an independent power?
That's how I feel about it.
I'm only playing devil's advocate.
I would rather they don't.
I would rather no countries do, to be perfectly honest.
If there had to be one, it could be England.
No, I think we should, but they shouldn't.
I think England alone should have nukes.
Not Britain, just England.
Just England, so that the Scots will know their place.
I don't want the Welsh getting any ideas either.
But the point being, this is the thing.
There's no point appealing to a fair standard by which everyone can be judged in this, because this is not how this works, right?
We're talking about, no, we're the people who are powerful and you're not, so what's the settlement going to be?
And the Iranians, they're speaking in the sort of thematic sense, where they're like, oh, we are the proud nation of Iran.
It's like, okay, but practically speaking, there's nothing you can do about this.
And Israel has been bullying you for decades, and now they're going to bully you some more because of the way that you think you're above your station.
Basically.
And unless you just essentially knock on the head, they're going to keep bullying you.
I mean, the Ayatollah came out and said, made a statement, didn't he, saying something like Israel will pay for this.
Yeah, I'll get his exact statement if you want.
They've locked in a sort of disastrous future for themselves and all that sort of thing.
So quick word then about, I mean, Israel themselves have said that Iran have now got enough weapons-grade uranium to make nine nukes.
Israel have been saying for years that Iran are one day away, I'm exaggerating, but they're very, very close to having nukes.
We've got to confront them now.
Do you believe them?
They've been saying this since the 90s.
Right, yeah.
And it's like, yeah, I'm sure they have been.
Even the IAEA are saying whether they're truly independent or not.
But even they have been saying, no, Iran has got...
I don't mean to laugh, because it's not funny, but Khomeini's tweets are just kind of hilarious.
With this crime, the Zionist regime has prepared itself for a bitter, painful fate, which it will definitely see.
You don't have to add that on the end if it's definitely going to happen, right?
Which it will definitely see.
It's not going to see it.
That's not going to happen.
You're not going to do anything.
Yeah, I mean, maybe.
I don't know.
Yeah, only the future will tell.
Yeah, but we've got a long past of them not doing anything.
Well, here's the thing.
One thing to note.
Can anyone Even Israel Prevent Iran From making nuclear weapons Because a lot of their Because a lot of their facilities are underground, deep underground, deep inside mountains, basically.
how can you really stop them?
You can maybe slow them down for years, Maybe when the jinns are all in agreement that finally Iran can have nukes.
But, like, if you look at the tweets, they're just ridiculous.
And these are statements of a profoundly weak regime.
Like, they say, that Zionist regime should anticipate a severe punishment.
Okay, what decade are we anticipating a severe punishment?
Because you've been saying these exact words, literally since I was a kid, by God's grace, the powerful arm of the Islamic Republic's armed forces won't let them go ahead unpunished.
Nothing happens.
Nothing ever happens.
Like, they talk like this all the time, like they are, like the Persian Empire, and their, you know, woe betide Greece, and then nothing happens, and a few more Iranian scientists or generals or whoever get assassinated.
Decades after decades after decades.
I don't take anything they say seriously.
So far, that is exactly...
Isn't it?
I'm not saying nothing will happen.
I'm saying the Israelis will just keep bombing them and assassinating people and the Iranians will just go, well, that's the way life goes.
You know?
Oh, I will tweet.
God will punish Israel.
It's like, yeah, because you can't.
So, you know, what now?
There's an interesting little tidbit, I thought, a data point was that apparently last night...
Yeah, around the Pentagon DC area, big pizza deliveries went up, suggesting that everyone at the Pentagon suddenly realised they were in for an all-nighter.
Yeah.
Which does suggest they weren't necessarily clued in to what was about to happen.
Yeah, I think that Israel is...
Yeah.
Yeah.
It seems that Trump's just like, look, man, I wish I could stop it, but there's nothing I can do.
Okay.
So Israel hit loads of different places, and as we said at the top of the segment, it's sort of still ongoing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know if and when they'll ever stop.
We've got Faraz doing a daily segment on it, right?
A daily video.
So we'll see what he's got to say about his takes on it as well.
But yeah, it seems like the gloves are well and truly off.
From Netanyahu's point of view.
Iran, this is a declaration of war.
Yeah, it is.
Now what?
Yeah.
How many men are you mobilising?
Yeah, I mean, can you imagine Iran putting together a foreign expeditionary force and sailing all the way round from the Persian Gulf up through the Suez to Israel's sea border in the Mediterranean and launching an amphibious assault onto Israel?
No.
Right, that's not happening, is it?
That's not happening.
I mean, the thing is, well, the problem the Iranian regime has is that they're deeply unpopular in Iran.
That's also true.
It'd be literally like Keir Starmer.
I mean, we looked it up, actually, didn't we?
Yeah.
It'd be literally like Keir Starmer being like, right, guys, we're going to go to war with France or whatever.
It's like, I'm not fighting for you.
And if you look, like, it's something like only 33% of Iranians actually identify as being Muslim.
And so it's like, okay.
And then you've got 85%.
There who don't support the Islamic Republic.
And it's like, yeah, exactly the same way that, like, only 15% of people actually like Keir Starmer.
Only, like, 15-20% of people in Iran actually like the Mullahs.
So they can't afford to go to war because if their, like, fragile power base is damaged by Israel and they have to rely on the people to actually start doing stuff in defense of their regime, the people are like, actually, I'm not going to do that.
You know, I'm going to let your regime collapse, actually.
I don't care.
I hate you.
Absolutely true.
I mean, that pie chart speaks volumes.
But then there's also that thing that when you're attacked, it brings you together, though, as well, doesn't it?
Possibly.
And that is one theory.
But I just don't see it in the case of Iran.
I mean, maybe I'm wrong.
I don't know.
Yeah.
Maybe suddenly everyone's like, right, defend the mullahs.
I mean, also, as well as saying they would roll his round to the sea if they got a chance, they've also said that our nuclear programme is just for peaceful purposes only.
But then they won't let the IAEA see everything as well at the same time.
I don't care what they say, because everything they say is nonsense.
I think all it is is just a big front to cover the fact that they're profoundly weak and they've been bullied basically into oblivion by Israel and nothing's going to happen from their point of view.
They're just like, yep, we're just going to keep tweeting.
Well, I mean, watch this space.
We'll see what happens over the coming days and even weeks.
One of the last points I just wanted to mention is sort of just the wider picture.
There's hardly anyone in the world that benefits from Iran having a nuclear capability.
Like, Saudi certainly don't want it, right?
Russia don't benefit from it, really, despite my enemy's enemy and all that thing.
The same goes for China.
Yeah, there's my enemy's enemy angle, but it's not actually in their interest for Tehran to have nukes.
So I can't see, for example, I can't see Iran putting together some sort of big coalition, right, to...
It's them versus Israel.
And the rest of the world has to sort of just sit back and watch it.
It's interesting how the rest of the world's going to look like, not my fight, bro.
Yeah.
You get Paris or London saying, stop, please stop.
And even DC saying, better make a deal, bro.
But in the meantime...
There's nothing we can do.
Trump's statement sounds like a good cop, bad cop scenario.
It kind of does.
It kind of does.
Sigilstone says, why not let Iran have nukes?
Pakistan does, and they're way more insane than Iran.
I don't know.
I mean, the mullahs are pretty mental.
I mean, Pakistan's pretty mental.
So, I mean, good point, to be honest.
Israel is an act in common sense nuke control.
Yeah, good point.
And grooming gang convictions on the front page of BBC News.
What timeline is this again?
Well, it's a bit off topic, but let's carry on.
So, I'm of the opinion that we should just ban OnlyFans, right?
At this point, I've just decided that actually OnlyFans is an attack on the public morality and it is allowing the impression of Britain and British women to be severely damaged, actually.
It is definitely not good for social cohesion.
It's not good for the concept of our own sense of dignity.
And OnlyFans as a company itself has every incentive to promote the idea that as many women as possible are on it to try and normalise it so that your daughters think that it's normal so when they hit 18 they think to themselves, hey, I know how to make some easy money.
That's the whole business model.
Yeah, it's really, really horrible, actually.
And there's no reason we actually have to permit this either.
We don't have to allow this.
This has all been inspired, of course, by Louise Perry's article about OnlyFans, why OnlyFans has young British women in its grip.
Now, she says in here, Britain is host to 280,000 creator accounts on OnlyFans.
Wow, that's loud.
I didn't think it was that much.
We'll come to the numbers, because they're a bit sus, actually.
They're quite contentious and sourced very well.
Yeah.
84% of these accounts are run by women, and they're all between 18 and 34, mostly.
We can estimate that about 4% of young British women are therefore selling their wares and only fans.
That is a lot.
all.
I've never actually clicked on OnlyFans in my life.
Is it all sex stuff?
Because I was under the impression that you can go on OnlyFans and just show anything, like your business.
Bo's looking for new revenue streams.
How much skin do I need to show?
Asks Bo.
I understand that technically it's not required to be a prostitute.
Well, here's some information, which is that people keep calling it a UK or British-owned business, and I believe that when it was started originally, it was started by an Essex lad and his dad or his brothers.
Homegrown British success story.
prostituting women in 2018 It was sold to a foreign company.
It's not a British-owned business anymore, because I've seen people throw that at It was just a good British idea.
Well, no, it was taken over by a company called Felix International or something, who were run by a guy, wholly owned by a guy called Leonid Radvinsky, who is a...
Oh, yeah.
And it was after he took over that it started to push itself as a site for people to make their own adult content.
Right, interesting.
So anyway, this article focuses around one creative...
Yeah, one creator called Bonnie Blue.
You're probably aware of Bonnie Blue.
Apparently, she told an interview last year, quote, I used to work an office job 9 to 5, sit in rush hour, get given 20 days annual leave, and for a while I accepted that.
I was like, okay, this is what life is.
This is as good as it can get.
I was like, okay, but that's not bad for, like, she's in her early 20s, right?
That's not bad.
And you move up as you build yourself, you improve, you gain.
So she moved with her husband originally.
I'll get to the more details.
Moved to Australia, left her husband and pursued a new business idea, having sex with hundreds, in her words, of barely legal teenage boys and uploading the footage to OnlyFans to sell.
Classy.
I mean, yeah.
But also, there's a reason that every single religion under the sun has put sort of hard-line proscriptions on women's personal behavior, right?
And the meme is real, and it's because one or two women will make it so that you kind of have to, right?
This can't be allowed.
This just can't be allowed.
She says, quote, I wanted a better life.
Is that a better life?
Isn't that a better life, is it?
That's disgusting.
She's now world famous for the escalating depravity of her stunts.
She was planning to host what she called a petting zoo event this weekend, in which as many as 2,000 men would be given sexual access to her over 24 hours all on camera.
She was going to be in some sort of cage, blindfolded and gagged, and just these men would be allowed to do anything they want to her.
What are we doing, folks?
What are we allowing here?
Like, I get a lot of people being like, well, you know, we need an Oliver Cromwell for the government.
It's like, yeah, and we also need one for society, okay?
I mean, sadly...
I'm turning into a Puritan Sadly Nick Bookley has put some of the previous stunts on the Twitter timeline before.
And also there was the whole Lily Phillips thing where they were showing footage of the queue for these events.
Typically, the men showing up to these events are not...
Not classically British, shall we say.
Which makes sense, because if there is one thing that is very clear about Bonnie Blue, just looking at her in this image even, is that she is a right minger.
She's gross.
Anyway.
She has the stare.
This is an article from back in January where...
Zoo still open this weekend?
It's not ugly, yeah.
Where do I sign up?
I'll be number man 2001.
No, I'm joking.
Of course I'm joking.
Standing at the back of the queue with a bouquet of flowers.
I can change her.
A box of chocolates.
I can save her.
No.
I did hear one of these stints.
That was so vile.
I'm only joking.
I don't want venereal disease, so that was a joke.
I forget which one it was, whether it was her or the other one, but I did hear that one of them had some guy in the queue who had chocolates and flowers, who wasn't intending to do anything, just wanted to give a...
Oh, my God.
King of the simps.
And there was after the Lily Phillips thing when that clip went around of her...
There was also the behind the scenes of like, here's the camera guy who was here all day and filmed the whole thing and he looked like he'd been through Vietnam.
A thousand yard stare.
Yeah.
Like the guy in World War I where it's just his face has aged 20 years over two.
The guy that saw all the fighting on the eastern front.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's aged 20 years in three.
Jesus Christ.
Far be it from me to play defense for this, but.
All I'm going to say is, there's a few things that humans do which is almost impossible to ban.
Prostitution is the oldest profession in the world.
If you try and ban alcohol, people will do it anyway.
If you try and ban fighting or boxing, it will just go underground.
And I'm not saying that we should try and ban those things.
She is free to be a disgusting degenerate pig.
But should she be able to become a multi-millionaire doing this?
It's not even that.
I don't see that same argument as it applies to online pornography websites like OnlyFans, where, as I mentioned, the entire business model is predicated on convincing young women that it's normal and fine and profitable to become whores as early in their lives as possible, right?
And so the argument is always, well, it'll pop up elsewhere.
you can stamp those things out or you can apply laws that force them to put different gatekeeping measures in place.
Like what happened with some of the states in America where they forced Pornhub to put in an age verification.
And all of a sudden Pornhub, because their entire business model is getting...
They pulled out immediately.
They were like, all right, we'll just IP block any state that has those laws because we don't want...
So, we'll carry on.
So apparently Bonnie Blue says she makes between $600,000 and $1.5 million a month.
A month?
A month.
That's the market.
I mean, it's horrible.
What does Oliver Cromwell think of the market, Bo?
Does Oliver Cromwell care about the market?
You know?
No!
Let's not let men off the hook here.
Well, that was my point.
That was my point.
It's like, she is doing something gross.
Do you think Oliver Cromwell's going to let men off the hook?
No!
You know, I'm completely happy with us punishing every man who has an OnlyFans account.
That's totally fine.
The whole thing, honestly, is really making me insanely right-wing just reading about this.
I'm going to go through some more.
Seriously, I'm finding myself becoming quite unforgiving.
The thing is, I do actually take your point about prostitution and alcohol.
The normal vices.
I can see why there would be a marginal space for that.
It's like if you've got some guy who's in his 40s he's never had the touch of a woman, okay, I can see why you'd go to a prostitute, right?
If you've got a man whose wife is disabled or something, you should kind of say, okay, I can see why you'd do that.
I mean, if he's married, I think you make a I don't know, whatever.
Make up a story, right?
there's going to be some sort of fringe marginal case in which you can see why consenting adults could exchange money and that wouldn't be evil but this you know multi-millionaire prostitutes who are like Going on marketing campaigns.
Because that's what these stunts are.
They're marketing campaigns.
Presumably handled and managed by people behind the scenes as well.
And I mentioned this in the office when we were talking about this earlier.
The problem with these kinds of stunts and the problem with online pornography being as freely and easily available as it is in the first place is that these stunts only work once.
Yeah, and they have to up the ads every time.
They have to keep getting more and more extreme.
Which is how we've got to this point.
Yeah, and that's the problem with internet porn as well, just because of the fact that you get desensitized to it and people develop all new, disgusting and weird fetishes just because they don't get off on the normal stuff anymore.
It's a really horrible feedback loop.
Yeah, so I thought we'd keep going into this, right?
Because this is how this began, right?
I mean, she's married to a high school sweetheart, so she'd met this guy when she was in school.
They'd fallen in love, they'd got married.
He got a face tattoo.
I don't think that's him.
They broke up.
But she was inspired by TikTok videos of women doing cam girl work.
It's like, inspired.
Your wife's like, oh, I'm inspired to become an online prostitute, so I've seen other women doing it.
You're like, what?
No, of course you're not.
Again, that's the business model, though.
Get women to promote it to other women as empowerment, as profitable.
This will be you taking control of your sexuality, and retarded women will go, yes, me being a whore is empowering.
And for some reason, her partner was like, yeah, why not?
That sounds like a good idea, because she felt that, quote, she was not pretty enough, which I agree with, and that people wouldn't want to watch me, but her partner, Ollie, reassured her, no, you're beautiful, do it.
It's like, why are you turning your wife into a prostitute, man?
What a simp.
Why are you prostituting your own wife?
And soon she was earning five grand a week, but her relationship eventually crumbled, if you can believe that.
Can you believe that that actually damaged their relationship?
What a shock.
And now she spends her time...
It's like, okay, this is not exactly a good example, is it?
Am I wrong to feel the spirit of Oliver Cromwell inhabiting me at this point?
The other thing that always springs to mind whenever I hear of these things is how is she not dead already of VD?
I don't know.
I can't explain it.
Maybe it's like the Mr. Burns thing where they're all stuck in the door.
I don't know.
I haven't got any answer to this, right?
But we'll carry on because this is just...
So we've got this.
So, totally disgusting.
Her and her husband, totally disgusting.
Shouldn't have done this, obviously, right?
And so she ended her marriage in 2021.
Her parents are seemingly unfazed by her risked career path.
So weird.
It's disgusting.
It's weird enough that your own husband's like, go for it, love.
All of you.
Like, absolutely vile.
This makes me...
No, I shouldn't, because I don't want to say anything that could land me in a court of law, because this makes me suspicious of...
Bonnie says she takes pride in the support she receives from her family, who are not just proud, but actively involved in her career.
I can't even imagine.
I've got two daughters, man.
On what level?
Are they involved in any way?
the ones coming up with the stunts?
She doesn't say, at which point yeah they would be potentially coming up with the stunts in which case imagine Somebody saying to their own daughter, oh, yeah, why don't you become a sexual petting zoo for 2,000 men over the weekend?
Yeah, her own dad.
I'm sorry, you should be launched into the ocean without a life raft.
You should have horrible things done to you.
In the stocks.
You should have your hard drives checked, and you should be investigated.
But the fact that her own parents can do this to her, they're obviously getting paid from this, right?
So their own parents are best to say, A hundred in one day.
Those are rookie numbers, pop it.
Let's do two thousand.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Did you hear how much of a whore your mother used to be?
Well, I bet she wasn't.
That's the thing, you know?
But anyway, look at this.
I just hate this so much.
Bonnie shared the joy her dad felt at her being recognised for a photo and their keenness to participate in her TikTok videos.
It's like, this is disgusting.
What are you doing?
Like, honestly, I would mercilessly put these people in jail.
Bonnie said, quote, My family is so proud of me.
My dad loved it when someone came up to me and asked me for a photo the other day.
They've even been on TikToks.
Her mother, Sarah, has appeared on her various podcast platforms, including this particular one.
On one show, Sarah expressed immense pride in her daughter's professional pursuits.
It explains how she assists with Bonnie's job.
I just...
Is there an element of cope to it, though?
I don't know.
I mean, it doesn't sound like cope.
It sounds disgusting.
And so when Bonnie points out that actually everyone she knew hates her now, right?
Because when she was at school, she was quite conservative and quite normal and a bit shy.
And so basically everyone thinks she's awful now because she is.
I wouldn't want to be near her.
No, I know.
It's disgusting.
Imagine the smell.
Well, I don't want to, thank you.
But the point is, what she's doing here is attacking people's relationships.
I mean, did you see the TikTok that was going around the other day?
Of this young woman who's like, my boyfriend went to this thing where she shagged a thousand guys in a day.
Like, that's her relationship ruined.
I have seen people share those clips where she said, what is it, I want brothers, sons, dads, husbands, boyfriends to attend these things.
So yeah, she is actively saying, she's saying, put on a mask.
So they don't see your face on camera and, you know, cheat.
It's disgusting.
But the point is, she's actively ruining other women's relationships by just giving in to the most based instincts that men have.
And don't get me wrong, all of these men are gross as well, obviously, but there's not really any point in complaining about them because they're not the gatekeepers of whether this happens or not.
None of these men can make this happen without her say so, so she's the one who's got to take responsibility for the decision.
So, you know, okay, yeah, the men are all gross, but, like, who cares?
You know, like, everyone knows.
The point being is that she says there's been a lot of judgment and jealousy.
Jealousy?
I doubt it's much jealousy.
But they're like, why are you debasing yourself like this?
And I had an old friend come up to me and say, I have no respect for myself and I don't deserve any in return.
And another close friend tell me how her friends think she shouldn't be friends with me anymore.
Agreed.
Absolutely agreed.
You're going out of your way to destroy other people's relationships.
Why would you want a relationship with that person?
Well, in the friendships as well, there's the worry from lots of people that you'd try and encourage your friends to do the same thing that you are.
It's an example to others.
And she says, though, I don't mind.
They are judging me for having a multi-million dollar business while they live with their parents and have to work for someone else.
So pure materialism.
She is just...
There's nothing sacred, there's nothing special about her, there's nothing important, and my god, this is what I was talking about in The Death of Man.
I'm sorry, I'd rather be living with my parents than have them manage an OnlyFans account for me.
Yes!
That's a pretty simple solution for me.
I'm not sure if Galileo and Kent had Bonnie Blue in mind when they...
But this is where it ends up.
That's the problem with all of this, is that once you have desacralized the material world, even man himself becomes just a sack of meat.
And if you see nothing important, nothing dignified about yourself, nothing that is in some way morally important, which Bonnie Blue doesn't, about herself and her own sexuality, then you get to the point where you're like, why don't I just put myself in a cage and let 2,000 guys do whatever they want to me?
And it's just like, yeah, that's where we end up, because there's nothing restraining that.
All of the things that we're complaining about, the moral complaints, are non-material complaints.
They're complaints about dignity and sanctity that we're invoking here, about how women should uphold their own sense of self.
But it's not material.
I mean, she's not being hurt by doing this.
She's just absolutely hurt.
I mean, it's where one particular psycho ended up.
Sure.
Yeah, but it's not just one particular psycho.
This is just the particular example of a psycho.
I don't think it's particularly hard-baked into Kepler's geometry that we end up with Bonnie Blue.
Well, I'm afraid I think it is, actually, and that's the problem.
The issue is that once the universe is desacralized, even man himself as a part of the universe becomes desacralized.
At the moment, we're like, you know, five years into OnlyFans or whatever it is, and we've already got, like, rampant giga whores, and this is just one example of many.
Apparently there are 280,000 of them, right?
One thing that was funny was that other OnlyFans whores were calling her out on this.
Oh, yeah.
Saying that this is gross and disgusting.
You're making us all look bad.
Listen, you know, I was just a normal OnlyFans whore, but this...
But this is the precise point that I've been making in The Death of Man.
And the thing is, it goes further than this as well.
Because then you get the elites being like, yeah, no, good point.
We're in Bonnie Blues Britain.
This is The Economist.
It is The Economist, yeah.
And so the influential outlets will say things like, yeah, Bonnie Blues Britain is a place of sin, spin, and soft power.
It's like, are you mental?
Soft power being international influence.
optics internationally.
So what they're saying is, along with the fact that she's They get articles in the Daily Mail.
They get articles in the local newspapers.
They get interviewed everywhere.
They get interviewed everywhere.
Now they're in The Economist.
now they're being spoken about in The Spectator as well again Especially when you have platforms like The Spectator spreading this number saying it's 280,000, 4% of young women.
The international view of British girls is going to be that they're all disgusting whores who are well up for it, lads.
this is precisely what the economists are saying, right?
They're literally saying Britain is...
They say, quote, Bonnie Blue's strengths are Britain's strengths.
We are just an island of prostitutes that are prostituting ourselves out to the entire world.
We are exactly like these girls.
These girls are a perfect reflection of us.
And honestly, are they wrong?
That's the question.
This stuff serves as an extended advertisement as well, so similarly, obscenity laws.
I'd smack them down with it as well, because you're basically advertising it.
I just want this whole thing shut down.
People need to be punished billions.
I agree!
I agree.
People are like, why have you turned into Oliver Cromwell?
What are you doing this for?
It's for the safety of my daughters.
So this never happens to them.
And even if they think they want it, I don't agree that they want it.
And I don't care.
I'm not going to let it happen.
That's how I would be approaching this.
But they point out that, obviously, smut, scurs, and sin are fixtures of the British economy.
Tobacco companies, gambling companies, booze companies.
Oh yeah, having a cheeky cigarette.
For five minutes during work is basically the same as letting yourself be bound and gagged in a cage for over a weekend for 2,000 men.
It's the same leftist narrative they've always peddled, as much degeneracy as possible.
I mean, there are still women in Britain that aren't this, though.
There are plenty of them.
Of course there are.
So they're wrong?
It's not true?
Well, I don't know, right?
As in, if we permit this, can we say that this is not an accurate reflection of ourselves?
You know, I think the society is defined by its excesses, actually.
And so if we allow this, I mean, you can complain about the Iranian mullahs all you like, but they don't allow this.
The individuals aren't defined by it, are they?
There'll be trad British women out there that are just as disgusted by it as you.
Sure, but why do they tolerate it?
You get what you tolerate, and you get more of what you tolerate.
And if you tolerate this, then you're going to get more of it.
And if you normalize it and make it something that gets headlines and gets attention, you're going to just incentivize people to do it.
So, no, I think actually this is a fairly accurate representation of Britain, and this is why I'm probably going to get my...
I'm going to get that haircut.
I just genuinely arrived at the point where I'm just like, this has to be done, something has to be done.
What, a Cromwellian haircut?
Yeah, I'm sure there was a Cromwellian haircut, wasn't there?
Sort of a bowl-cut Puritan.
Yeah, I'm getting that.
But the point is, OnlyFans is worth $7 billion now, and the OnlyFans owner is looking to sell for $8 billion.
And it's like, okay, but is this the country we want to be?
Is this what being a liberal country means?
Just being an international prostitute, according to The Economist?
In 2025, they tell us at the very last line, if someone lies back and thinks of England, they may as well think of Miss Blue.
Yeah, okay, now I'm totally on with Cromwell.
I'm so glad that some random Ukrainian-American businessman could buy up this company and then make billions of profit off of whoring out other people's daughters.
I just can't stand it, man.
And like I said, I'm not even trying to be an extreme Puritan about it.
I understand that, you know, all this professional and this I'm playing devil's advocate here.
Yeah, yeah, no, no.
But I can accept the decision, but this is what it's doing to us, so there has to be some sort of place in which we intercede.
Just a quick thing, the numbers aren't...
The numbers are a bit suspect.
Apparently they come from a Google spreadsheet that is probably not reliable.
I mean, it doesn't look very reliable to me.
Yeah, I gave you these links.
The source that it's attributed to is some Google spreadsheet, and if you track the sources that the Google spreadsheet uses, it seems to refer back to a website which looks like some virus scam website that says free only fans with the little flame symbol next to it, which even on the website only lists 25,000 users, which itself might not be accurate because it seems that at 25,000 that's the cap of how many it lists.
So the number is completely...
And some of these people, including Juice, who's an excellent poster on Twitter, have referenced a number of times before, are speculating that the likelihood is these numbers are being given out by OnlyFans themselves because, as I mentioned, their incentive is to inflate the numbers to make it seem more normal, to encourage more people onto the platform.
Anyway, so, yeah, probably overblown.
It's still going to be way too many.
Yeah, it's going to be too many, but it's probably overblown.
But anyway, Bonnie Blue got banned from OnlyFans for saying that she was going to do this 2,000 men box cage stunt.
She was too degenerate.
Yeah, imagine being too degenerate for OnlyFans.
Again, just like a spokesman told Metro.
Quote, extreme challenge content is not available on OnlyFans and is not permitted under our acceptable use policy.
Any breach of the Term of Service gets your account deactivated.
So they actually were like, no, this is...
there are still some limits to morality even on OnlyFans right and it's like and even before the Enlightenment you've got people like like Messalina Claudius'wife had a famously had a Yeah, Theodora.
Yeah, Messalino had a competition with Rome's most famous prostitute to sleep with as many men as possible.
So I think there will always be...
I don't mean to be.
I'm just saying, there will always be sort of the very extreme, kind of insane, in my opinion, degenerates.
To be fair to the example you're giving, elites historically have always been a bit disgusting with this stuff.
And the cliche of the last days of Rome.
Yeah.
And this is the last days of Britain.
I mean, there was a woman in Turkey who was planning to do the same.
She was just arrested, publicly saying, and we could do the same, right?
We actually could do the same, because we actually have a series of laws on the statutes that are to protect the public morality against indecency.
We actually could enforce this, right?
So you've got the Obscene Publications Act of 1959 and 1964, which is to prevent the distribution of material deemed obscene, that tends to deprave and corrupt.
Yeah, I think you could argue that OnlyFans Whores is an example of attempting to deprave and corrupt the public morality.
It's something you have to post online, so you could use the 2003 Communications Act, or you've got the Indecent Displays Control Act of 1981, which restricts the public display of indecent material likely to offend the public decency.
We have all of this on the books.
We could ban this.
We could charge these women.
There's a CPS failing to bring prosecution.
I can't believe that Keir Starmer didn't step in.
Again, he's got a daughter, you know.
The Public Order Act protects public order and prohibits conduct or speech likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress.
I think distress is a fairly acceptable thing to categorise this as.
I'm not on with this.
There are laws on the books that we could use to ban OnlyFans and this behaviour.
We should be using them.
I think it's just gross.
It is just gross, and for that reason, we should ban it!
We should take a Singapore approach to things that are gross.
You spat some gum in the street?
Arrested.
You're gonna blow your nose in the middle of the street?
arrested again weirdly like You know what I mean?
They were certainly classier than these.
This is just disgusting.
There are just limits.
Anyway.
Bo should have an OnlyFans to talk of transparent graphene and space elevators.
Sean says, didn't the Bible warn of this?
So the Victorian men were right?
Yes.
This makes me want to seize power and redacted.
I lack the words to express the depths of disgust.
Things a lot of us do.
That's the problem.
Guys, you will have to show them robotics and robotic companions.
They do every sexual act and are starting to carry conversation.
Oh, God.
We won't need women anymore, boys.
Yeah, well, this is Lily Phillips.
What's she going to do to herself next?
Imagine her childhood...
Well, the thing is, all of the reports are that she grew up in a perfectly normal middle-class household, right?
And her parents she seems to be fine with.
You know, she doesn't act as if her dad did anything or anything like that.
They nearly always say that about serial killers.
They must have been abused and brutalised as a child.
Sometimes, yeah.
Sometimes not.
Sometimes you get a serial killer, like one of the most sadistic people ever to have lived, and they had a perfectly reasonable, normal upbringing.
Sometimes.
Yeah.
Carl, how soon will we set up the resistance, supply routes from the US, and Harry get promoted to captain?
I know.
Sorry, I've got to skip through these for time.
Thank you.
The Weimar Republic was exactly like this, minus the internet part.
Well, it was...
I have finished my script on that.
Oh, have you?
Yeah, and it's been fact-checked and read over by the appropriate people who were most qualified to do so.
No, I've been I'm gonna film it soon as soon as my forehead is fully healed and and then it will take who But yeah, on that point about the Weimar Republic, there is a striking parallel, which is that because of the economic conditions of the Weimar Republic, particularly during the hyperinflation and then the Great Depression, loads and loads of people were forced into prostitution, including lots of children,
horrifyingly, and it became basically like a sexual playground, Berlin did, for foreigners.
To just come in and use and abuse the meat market however they wanted.
Which is actually the Lily Phillips Bonnie Blue thing, isn't it?
Who are also mostly being pimped out by foreign elements themselves.
So it's no wonder that Germans got a little bit of a complex after that, sadly.
Anyway, I kind of just want to die now.
Thank you for that one.
Sorry, I just, we just should ban it.
The Callum slouch is what I found myself sinking into during that, so thanks.
We've got laws in the books.
We can do that.
So, good news, gents.
We all know we're black.
Let me hand out the passes.
I mean, I think I actually should have a pass, to be honest.
Probably, to be honest.
But yeah, so we've always been black, Brits and English.
How did we end up with blue eyes?
Good question.
Oh, probably the Anglo-Saxons.
Yeah, who were also black.
So we were black back when we were Cheddar Man.
We were black when we were Roman citizens.
And we were black back when we were Tudors.
These are the narratives that we have been told over and over and over again.
There are lots of strange books.
So is it about like 1800 would become white?
I don't think we ever did.
Oh, right, okay.
It's very strange that there are so many people of English descent.
Who are white, actually, given the historical record that I've been taught.
And that's what I'm going to talk about today, which is some of the evidence for it.
I know we've spoken somewhat in the past about Cheddar Man and then the narrative surrounding the Tudors as well.
There are books about that.
But today I want to talk about one that Beau's quite familiar with as well, which is the Ivory Bangle Lady.
Ivory Bangle Lady.
I don't know anything about this.
Who is a woman from the Roman times.
During the Roman occupation of Britain when we were Roman Britain who may have been from North Africa which means that she wasn't Levantine or Arab or anything like Phoenician, anything like that, it means she black.
Because one of the most amusing things about leftists is that they just see all of Africa, sub-Saharan Africa.
It's not like there's this gigantic desert stretching across the northern part of it that separates the peoples or anything.
Black woman goes to Italy, black.
Goes to Britain, black.
Like, she's all black.
Yeah, that's just how it works.
That's just how it works.
Genetics really are quite impressive that way.
But first, watch The Death of Man, Carl's documentary.
It's doing very well at the moment.
Very glad to see.
This is the first in this kind of documentary-style format that we're going to try to do a little bit more of.
And so far it's been received very well.
Premium content.
Subscribe to the website for as little as £5 for access to that.
I've got a great review of it from the comments.
Oh, go on.
Quote, this was a spectacular dive into the spiritual degradation of the human condition.
I'll probably need to listen to the second half two or three times to fully grasp the depth of the tragedy of modernity.
I know.
Well, if that doesn't make you want to watch it, then nothing will.
So, yeah, we get this narrative with all people of European descent that Vikings weren't all white is what peoples are going to be told.
This is a charity guidance.
Vikings were very diverse.
Forget the fact that there is no evidence for this whatsoever.
And on this one, maybe we should let them have it.
Yeah, so a bunch of very diverse people came and ravaged England.
Yeah.
Agreed.
We've been here before.
Yeah, it's not true, though, with the Vikings.
Of all the peoples of Europe, the people in the top northern part of it, where it goes into the Arctic Circle, maybe the most isolated of anybody.
They're so white, they're almost blue.
Yeah.
They're so white, it's almost transparent.
But no, they're black.
And yet still very closely related to the English people, so therefore, given the English are black, must also be black.
Do you remember when they found a Muslim ring?
A ring with Islamic scripture of Allah on it.
They're like, oh, they're Muslims too.
Yeah, I agree.
They're diverse Muslims who are ravaging.
I mean, they traded with...
They raided Muslims.
They raided everywhere.
They traded with them.
So, of course, some stuff's going to show up.
It doesn't actually mean that...
They're diverse Muslims, man.
I don't know what you're doing.
All right, Carl.
Your diversity is showing through right now, Carl.
I'm not saying I'm in favour of it.
What I'm saying is, it kind of makes them look bad.
Yeah, and trading with the Muslim world ever since.
Ever since the age of Mohammed, more or less, or the generation after.
That doesn't make Vikings brown.
Obviously.
Or black, or whatever.
It's just pure nonsense.
Cheddar Man was one of our favourites.
Yeah, it's pure nonsense.
The thing was with this, that I think they looked into the genes or isotopes or whatever that express skin colour, and they determined...
shockingly, that he must have had darker skin around this kind of skin tone.
Of course, then it came out a month or two later that the technology that he was using was...
Even if it was true, that doesn't justify anyone else from anywhere in the world having any claim to this land.
Exactly that.
Even if their skin tone was that, which it wasn't, that doesn't justify infinite Somalians today.
The thing that I mentioned in a discussion about this on the Daily Channel was that, well, okay, he was slightly darker skin and then his descendants all...
Because the important word there is descendants.
Yes, and that does not mean that any of us are descended anywhere in the last 10,000 years directly from sub-Saharan Africans who...
I've no idea, but I don't care if, like, 300,000 years ago humans came from Africa.
Look, bro, in the last, like, 2,000 years a lot's happened, so let's focus on that, shall we?
Just to be clear, that skin shade was just completely debunked as wrong.
Yeah, it was done for political reasons.
But people still reference it to this day.
They'll still mention Cheddar Man.
Was it Tom Booth who was involved in this?
I'm going to refer to Survive the Jive, Tom Rousel, guest of the show, who's spoken about this.
I believe it was Tom Booth who's like an archaeologist or geneticist who's explicitly written in academic papers of the need to, without saying it, explicitly falsify history and falsify genetic histories to avoid the rise of nationalist or far-right narratives.
It's all done purely as a counter to people who say the English and the British are a distinct, separate ethnic group from other people.
Loads of people in the field are quite open about saying that sort of thing.
Political.
Purely political.
You can't even speak of the Anglo-Saxons in some departments because you might end up with a nationalist.
Yes.
Well, they even wanted to change in Anglo-Saxon studies.
They wanted to change it to Old English rather than Anglo-Saxon to avoid it.
It's like, but how does that change it?
still it's still the same Anglo-Saxon sounds less nationalistic to me.
But anyway.
Tom Rousell, friend of the channel's 5 to Drive, was explicitly involved in those conversations.
I think there was one in Cambridge just run by complete globalist anti-white psychos saying basically you can't have a genetic past effectively is what they're saying.
But this is the one that we'll talk about right now which you can see there are narratives with this one going all the way back to 2010 reported on by the supposedly allegedly right-winged newspaper Daily Mail.
So this must have been some red meat for the gammon?
I have no idea.
So, giving some background on this, this is the ivory bangle lady.
Sorry, look at that opening line.
Forensic researchers revealed that multicultural Britain is nothing new after discovering black Africans were living in high society in Roman York.
That's a pretty definitive statement.
I mean, that is remarkable.
And we have, from the Yorkshire Museum, these ideas...
How are our schools different?
Either way, they predicted that she may have looked like this.
Okay.
North African, maybe.
Does that look like any Phoenician that you're familiar with?
Not really.
No.
I feel again, like Cheddar Man, they might have gone out of their way to say, Africa, that where black people be.
We'll make her as dark as possible and make her hair nice and curly.
Because again, before the Arab conquests, North Africa wasn't even really Arab anyway, was it?
No, it wasn't.
So, that admixture is much more recent than Roman times anyway.
North Africa, if you go way back to, well, you go back to Carthaginian times, or even before, settled by Phoenicians, who are from the Near East, modern day, Modern day, where Lebanon, Israel is.
Literally in Lebanon.
Yeah, yeah.
And then you've got, they were taken over by Visigoths for a long time, who are from Northern Europe.
Yep.
And then the Romans, obviously Italian.
And then the And then the Arab conquest, obviously from Arabia.
None of it is sub-Saharan African.
Obviously.
It's as simple as that really, isn't it?
But what they're saying here, a study of the remains and artifacts from the 4th century at the Yorkshire Museum showed North Africans were living there thousands of years ago.
Again, there's the conflation between North Africans and black Africans.
The most exciting results came from the analysis of the so-called ivory bangle lady, whose remains were found in 1901 in the city's Sycamore Terrace.
The research used modern forensic ancestry assessment to show it was likely that she was of North African descent and may have migrated to York from somewhere warmer.
Again, when you're part of this enormous multi-ethnic empire, the largest empire in the world, certainly at the time, I don't think it's that unusual for people to be migrating if this research is accurate in the first place.
And also, the argument that is used is, see, Britain has always been diverse and multi-ethnic.
And I would make the argument, well, this isn't even...
really the story of Britain this is the story of the Roman Empire yeah the Roman Empire was large and multi-ethnic yes with people migrating and traveling but as soon as the empire fell Even Rome itself did, following the fall of the Empire, because everyone who was foreign scuttled off back home.
Yeah.
The Romans left basically zero genetic imprint on Britain, right?
So, if we didn't know from the historical records that they were here, you wouldn't know looking at the genetic evidence.
Minimal, certainly.
Almost nothing.
Again, this just...
I mean, they literally said she was a black African at the beginning.
That's not true.
I've mentioned Zinedine Zidane.
Whenever this comes up, I always mention Zidane.
Yes.
The Berber.
You showed me a picture of him, and he had blue eyes and looked like he could have come out of London, to be honest.
Well, not modern London.
English, London.
His skin tone is no darker than...
Anyone else in the Mediterranean Is like less olive Than an average Greek person Almost It's like Yeah It's not sub-Saharan black.
It just isn't.
They're Mediterranean people, right?
But that doesn't help, like, facts and reality doesn't help for internationalist, globalist, anti-white narratives, does it?
So this was fun.
The study carried out by University of Reading's Department of Archaeology, senior lecturer Dr. Heller Eckert said, Up until now we have had to rely on evidence of such foreigners in Roman Britain from inscriptions, however, by analysing the facial features of ivory bangle lady and measuring her skull, dangerous territory, Phrenology's cool.
As long as it means that you're black.
That's literally what it is, isn't it?
Analyzing the chemical signature of the food and drink she consumed and analyzing evidence from the burial site, we're able to establish a clear profile of her ancestry and social status.
We're looking at a population mix which is much, much closer to contemporary Britain than previous historians have suspected.
It's always been this way.
Nothing has ever been different.
Diversity has always been our strength, especially when we were being subjugated by a foreign empire.
And I tell you what, they're going to do research on my bones and be like, oh yeah, we're going to analyse what he was eating.
My God, he was Indian.
Oh no, I just like a curry, man.
In the case of York, the Roman population may have had more diverse origins than the city has now.
Wait, so the diversity went down?
Yeah.
But I thought if we'd always been diverse, that doesn't add up.
Funny, if you look at the literary record, if you look at Caesar's Conquest of Britain or Tacitus'Agricola...
Yeah, they're direct reports of those people.
There's no mention of...
Pale skin.
Yeah, there's no mention of...
None.
No mention of it whatsoever.
You think that would have come up as well?
Yeah.
Because they enjoyed their ethnographies.
Yeah.
And I really enjoy reading ancient ethnographies.
They're really interesting because they're like, you know, the people are weird looking here or something like this, right?
And yeah, they just give a fairly accurate description of what the thing, what it is they saw, you know?
And yeah, you're right.
There's, you know, the Britons were like, you know, painted in blue and had pale skin.
Not one African among them.
Weirdly.
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure they would have some argument of that about it being a whitewashed, colonial, Eurocentric narrative.
Something along those lines.
But this narrative's been pushed for a long while and it's always clear what exactly they're doing this for.
It's a communist outlet.
Yeah, this article from 2023 starts with this passage.
There were Africans in Britain before the English came here.
Reveals the opening line of Peter Fry's acclaimed book, Staying Power, The History of Black People in Britain.
Also, it wasn't England before the English came here.
Also, African is a very broad statement.
The Egyptians were here, were they?
Modern Britain as well.
Britain as it was up until the mid-20th century.
Who built that?
Was it...
I've heard it's literally everyone but the English.
I have a feeling it might have actually been the English.
But there's an example of the kinds of narratives that's just saying like, oh, you have no more right to this territory, because that's all it is.
It's just a patch of land, it's territory, than anybody else in the world.
In fact, actually, if you look at our history, they were here before you were.
Bear in mind, don't bear in mind that they were just subjects, citizens of some foreign empire that were...
Yeah, who were left when they left here as well.
And here you go as well, this one.
Ivory bangle lady, black lives in Roman Britain.
Beau's favourite Roman historian, Mary Beard.
Here we have an article that Beau wrote about her.
This is an accurate picture of Mary Beard and what she looks like.
This is her day-to-day makeup.
She, in this, is quoted...
Black people have had a presence in our history for centuries.
Get over it.
Yeah, it's the same in Africa, actually.
White Europeans have had a presence in Africa for centuries.
Get over it.
Who built Rhodesia?
Who built South Africa?
Yeah, who can actually make a claim to having built something there?
I don't know.
Yeah, so, uh, the discovery of ivory bangle ladies remains fully unearthed that people of colour...
They're only presumed roles in the early 20th century.
Fast forward 100 years, the controversy doesn't end there.
Professor Mary Beard, a leading classicist, was attacked on social media when she confirmed that there had been black Romans in Britain using ivory bangle lady.
As crucial evidence.
This is derived from the political football started when a children's cartoon on the BBC had displayed a black person in their short on Hadrian's wall.
Literally no evidence.
Again, trying to...
So you've got Mary Beard, a leading classicist, somebody that gets all of the television appearances lying to you for the sake of a political narrative.
Well, if you go to that article by the acclaimed B.B. Dade.
Oh, yes, yes.
Off of lotuseaters.com.
Would you call him a leading classicist?
A leading classicist.
Yeah, yeah, top of his feet.
Yeah, I say she's not a historian.
She's a partisan.
She's just a partisan shield for globalism.
She's also, not just globalism, but every aspect of globalism.
She wrote a little book about why feminism's great and how women need power for some reason.
Well, that's what this article was critiquing.
Oh, was it?
Specifically that.
Yeah.
So, aren't you a historian?
get in your lane.
Yeah, so, and then you get, you know, Sky History and other places just saying that Ivory Bengal Lady and the multiculturalism So the question then comes is, okay, so what they did was they measured her skull, which I thought was very, very racist, and checked the isotopes of her teeth to determine the kind of foods that she was eating when she was growing up, and determined some other things about the likelihood,
so it's basically an educated guess using that stuff, the likelihood that she was North African.
So not black.
Not black.
Not black, but North African.
But they'll still say black anyway.
So, the question is, well, we've got much better genetic testing now than we did 15 years ago.
Oh no!
Oh, no, she's not hyperborean, is she?
This would be...
actually a perfect way of determining for certain what the origins were, okay?
And friends of the show...
There's going to be another Egyptian pharaoh issue, right?
Well, a friend of the show, Tom Rousel, was talking recently about this, and he said back in February that in 2021, York Museum announced they were collaborating with Skoglund Ancient Genomics Lab, based at the Francis Crick Institute, and would confirm the ancestry of the Roman-era school from York called Ivory, By 2023, Pontus Scoglund's lab had sequenced her DNA, so they had an answer, but hadn't even put a pre-print out.
He said he was looking forward to seeing what was published, and you can see, back in 2023, he was chasing this up.
Has your laboratory analysed the DNA of an ivory bangle lady?
Say yes, but the work's ongoing.
The work of massaging this is going to be just like Tutankhamen.
It's like, oh, he's pale with ginger hair.
Genghis Khan, ginger hair.
How is this happening?
What is going on?
Why is every ruler in history pale with ginger hair?
What they needed after 2023, I assume, they got the spin doctors in.
Yeah.
They got the spin doctors in.
It's been two years.
We've got to get a narrative.
How do we work this?
I've got it.
Albino.
Yeah, there you go.
As of this morning, this is what inspired this, Tom posted this saying the DNA of the allegedly African Roman in Britain called Ivory Bengal Lady had been sequenced by 2023, but Scoglund and Francis Crick Institute held off from publishing it because it was going to be included in a large study of over 1,000 British samples.
However, this project is no longer on the upcoming project page and you can see the link here to that project page.
It's gone now.
Oh yeah.
It's gone.
They're not promoting it anymore.
Interesting.
So it turned out she's white and they've buried it.
Is that what is happening here?
And there's no mention of anywhere of what was discovered about this sample.
That's fascinating.
Tom says that if he had to bet, she wasn't African.
But, you know, the fact of the matter is now, I guess we'll never know.
I guess Ivory Bangle Lady, one of the, like Cheddar Man, one of the prime, One of the foundations of this, I guess you'll just never know.
It didn't matter.
It never mattered.
If you care, why do you care so much?
You're bigoted even for wanting an answer.
Just because it mattered incredibly to us because we hate you doesn't mean that you should care about it, bigot.
So that's the information.
So it turns out Ivory Bangle Lady never mattered.
Never mattered.
We'll never know.
Absolutely fascinating.
Next move, chuds.
It's so predictable.
Fig says, so bigger skull means one's black.
Measure the skull of the lead girl from the Last Us TV show.
She's black now.
No, I don't think it's the size of her skull.
It's the size of her face.
Right.
She's got a very small face.
We was all sons of Yacoub, never forget.
I do love the Yacoubian story.
It's funny.
Story?
That's history.
That's fact.
Confirmed.
They can never explain the question of why anyone would hear the Roman Empire took over some cold, rainy, miserable shithole where the sun never shines and wants to go personally experience it themselves.
Yeah, that's a good question, really.
I mean, it did become like London.
Became quite a very large city at the time, and there was a lot of trade and everything.
Yeah, yeah.
Didn't one of the Roman emperors move here?
I forget which one.
Well, a bunch of Roman emperors are from here, because they would station legions here, and then something would happen, and the legions would be like, you're the emperor now.
And this is, I mean, like Constantine the Great, for example.
Loads of Roman emperors visited here from Claudius onwards.
And yeah, Constantine the Great was in But there's loads and loads of examples.
A remarkable number of Roman emperors, whether just on campaign or not.
Stationed here.
Yeah, didn't really make their permanent residence here, but loads of them came here, yeah.
A surprising number.
So for me, the idea of, oh, this enormous empire had people moving to and from places.
To it.
That's not surprising at all.
It makes you shrug my shoulders.
The question is, well, these people you're talking about aren't related to me, and after the empire fell and they left, had nothing to do with the building of the country as it existed until 70 years ago.
Correct.
So how does it have anything to do with us?
How does it justify anything to do with mass migrations of people in the modern era?
You're absolutely right.
You could say...
Yeah, okay.
All right, fine.
That doesn't mean there were millions of blacks.
They really said there were millions of blacks in Roman Britain.
There weren't millions of blacks in the Roman Empire.
Just nonsense, yeah.
They were really rare for Romans.
They were known as Ethiopians just in general back then, weren't they?
And they did, like you say, they had the old ethnography where it basically just portrayed them all as slaves.
For the most part.
There's quite a lot.
The Greeks and the Carthaginians were aware of them.
Ethiopian means burnt face.
And they were considered troglodytes, which are cave dwellers as well.
But they were essentially just savage tribes that were beneath the Saharan Desert.
And there's plenty of things talking about them.
The thing is, in the ancient world, you had lots of really weird tribes everywhere.
Right.
So like the, you know, the one or two sort of areas of civilized life, quote unquote civilized.
So the Carthaginians, you know, shoveling their kids into a, You know, like, the Romans burying, like, a random couple of foreigners because they're losing a war.
It's, like, civilized.
You know, they were just another strange tribe.
Oh, look, there's another strange tribe here.
There is a strange tribe near the Baltic where they only use flint weapons and stuff like that.
Herodotus noting all of these down.
Well, no, seriously.
People never believe you on that one, Herodotus.
That's a bit far, don't you think?
Strange tribes on the periphery of, like, the known world, right?
They weren't, like, important.
There's men in Scythia who have the heads of dogs.
Yeah, and in India where they've got their feet backwards.
Okay, yeah, I'm sure that's the case.
Anyway, Sean says, Beau, almost all serial killers had abusive mothers.
Look it up.
Yeah, well, that's the point.
Almost all.
Not all.
Okay.
Yeah, I know.
I think that's a fair point to say.
But, yeah, it's not all, though.
That was the only point I was making.
Yeah.
Was Ted Bundy abused, or was he one of those ones who was just otherwise normal?
I can't remember the early story of Ted Bundy's childhood, I'm afraid.
Off the top of my head.
I haven't made that close a study of the man.
If there was going to be one guy, if there was going to be one serial killer who did have an otherwise normal childhood, it would be him, given that he came across so normal in public life.
Other than the whole, you know, murdering people thing.
No one's perfect, come on.
Michael says, Iran sounds like Libya when they got too big for their britches back in the 90s, and when the bombs landed nearly on top of Gaddafi's house, he got real quiet, real fast.
The old adage seems correct, shoot a few and the rest will STFU.
I think this is the problem with the Arab world in general, is they've got the inherited sort of prideful nature without the physical ability to back any of it up.
You're not going to just raise 100,000 men with scimitars and now march to Constantinople.
That doesn't work anymore.
And so you've got the inherited prideful nature but none of the ability to just project power.
It doesn't exist anymore.
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Tristan says, I truly hope the Trump administration is the start of ending ties between Israel and the US.
They've dragged us into too many wars.
Do you gentlemen think that severing ties will be a part of the MAGA 2028 campaign promise?
No.
No.
I haven't heard Vance say anything explicitly anti-Zionist.
No.
I mean, that's probably Vance being smart, to be fair, isn't it?
He's keeping his power to dry.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Roman Observer says, Israel manages to kill nuclear scientists, generals, and destroy sites, but for some reason, not the Islamic leader who pushes to the destruction of Israel and the Islamization of the world.
Again, I just view...
Just parroting.
Shut up.
I think you're right.
What's the point of killing the leader when he's so obviously completely impotent?
All he can do is tweet, whereas of course the rest of the power would be in the people developing nukes and the generals who can actually do something.
It's an interesting question though.
Would Israel assassinate the Ayatollah?
I watched an interesting video just the other day on YouTube of why is it so rare?
Certainly in the post-war, post-World War II era, I mean, for heads of state to get assassinated.
Not unknown, but it's quite rare.
Like, why hasn't Russia tried to take out Zelensky with some sort of precision strike?
Or the other way round?
You know, the Ukrainians assassinate Russian generals in the middle of Moscow.
They have tried.
They have tried.
I feel like if Israel really wanted to, they could blow up Ali Khamenei if they wanted to.
They're choosing not to.
I guess maybe, I don't know, but I guess it's maybe there's a line in the sand.
Like once you've set the precedent of that, then everyone starts doing it all the time.
It's an interesting question.
You also don't get weird rogue cells and rebels doing it as much either these days, because I've been listening to books on the beginning of the First World War, an audiobook, and one was like, One little figure was between, say, like 1900 and 1914 when you get to the assassination of Franz Ferdinand.
There was like dozens of heads of state just constantly being assassinated.
Random anarchists.
Yeah, random anarchists just running up to them in the street and shooting them or stabbing them.
In the Balkans, yeah.
There was a Tsar that was killed, wasn't there?
Alexander II, I think.
Lenin's brother.
You've got the Hashash in the Middle Ages.
Oh, the Hashash.
Yeah, that's an interesting one.
Yeah, they were up for it.
I mean, Did you know that?
She had loads of assassination attempts against her.
I just put that down to, in the digital age, I think the security services are far more technically on point than they used to be.
I mean, it's not like it's never happened.
Right at the beginning of Gulf War II, like literally the beginning, the shock and awe evening of shock and awe, they tried to blow up Sudan and just failed.
Although saying that there have been the attempts on Trump.
But they didn't work.
Trump knew too much.
He knew to tilt his head.
Furious Dan says, ban OnlyFans and reserve the production of pornography for an exclusive elite who can afford to create their own sites.
Harry is right.
Art should be gatekept.
No more sixes than seven.
He's like, I need my high-class pornography, goddammit.
At least that would minimise the quantity of it that could be produced.
But I don't...
We're not up for this mass and scale nonsense.
I'm surprised how forgiving you are of Bonnie Blue's looks, because she looks like she's had loads of surgery, like the cheek thing and the jaw thing.
So she looks, like, weird to me.
Like, I'm getting Uncanny Valley vibes from Bonnie Blue.
Yeah, I don't think she's amazingly beautiful or anything.
Well, no, it's not even that she's amazing.
I think she looks like a plastic statue.
Like a six or a seven to me.
Just Harry said she was minging.
I wouldn't go that.
I wouldn't go that.
Absolutely minging.
I would.
It's the surgery, man.
She looks like just...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which isn't, it's not attractive to me.
Fair enough, fair enough.
Charlie says, these OnlyFans women thinks they'll be the next Theodora, but in reality they're more Elagabalus.
It might be an option where we have to convince normal women that these harlots are competition and a failing strategy.
The problem is we keep making them into multi-millionaires.
That's the issue.
This is why OnlyFans needs to be banned.
I can't believe I paid so much interference on that segment.
I didn't mean to.
Just trying to protect your OnlyFans account.
Sorry, Beau.
I thought you were about to say, I can't believe I paid so much to Bonnie Blue.
And she still won't respond.
2001st guy in the line with Bodade.
I was going to clip that bit.
Oh, no.
God.
Like I said, I'm not even that bothered about the prostitution itself.
It's the fact that we're making them into multi-millionaires and celebrities, right?
That's the problem.
That has to be the problem.
For me, well, the worst thing is that any little kid in a playground, some fucking piece of shit 11-year-old gets his phone and shows it to a 6-year-old or whatever in the playground.
Yeah, that's a nightmare.
That's a nightmare thing.
Yeah.
Honestly, when I was part of the first generation at my age to have access to all this stuff really early, I remember I was like 11, 12 years old and the next door neighbour's kids just came over with their phone and he was like, hey, look at this.
And I'm like 11, 12. I didn't really know what I was looking at, but looking back now, it's like that was really messed up.
And I worry about the same for my own children.
Ace Tape says, Bonnie Blue left her husband to do this.
Oh, God, imagine watching your ex-wife running around like this.
Well, I mean, he says, poor man Saul must be trying to escape his body.
First, he encouraged it.
And secondly, I mean, good thing you dodged the bullet.
Like, you know.
Well, yeah.
Better late than never.
Yeah, exactly.
It's probably doing the web development on her page.
Yeah, but I mean, you know, there are people like, look, we...
He was probably on the camera.
Oh, God, man.
I hate it so much.
AlphaTheBeta says, White people have no homeland, evolved nowhere, and appeared as if by magic from Ether.
No, it was Yacoub.
No, we are elves.
Yet managed to steal the entire European continent from its rightfully black owners, then proceeded to conquer half the planet.
Am I understanding the narrative correctly?
That is actually, literally the narrative that we are being presented with, yes.
Why people are from nowhere.
They popped up one day and took everything in the face of the advanced African civilizations that they were confronted with.
Put that way, we're kind of awesome.
Yeah.
We're pretty awesome.
That's also not true.
We're just...
We are still awesome.
We're awesome, but we came from somewhere and there's an explanatory...
Anyway, Alex says, And that's exactly the point, obviously.
They just are not related to us, so it's nothing to do with them.
And again, race is a social construct, but this skeleton is black.
We were able to measure his social construct.
I broke up the calipers with the power of social phrenology.
But yeah, it's preposterous and I'm not having it, any of it.
so ban everything.
Anyway, one thing we're not banning is, of course, James O'Brien's...
It's a trivia game.
It should actually be quite fun.
We need to be careful.
The box has been touched by James O 'Brien.
It's got his signature on it.
A signed copy of James O 'Brien's game.
Somebody owned it and sent it in to us.
They thought, you know what Harry needs?
He needs a bunch of shit-lived books and the game.
We're going to catch a lurgy off it.
We're going to get O 'Brien's disease.
My allergies do flare up when I'm near it.
I just love how you are literally the world's biggest expert on James O 'Brien at this point.
Well, next to his therapist.
Next to his therapist, true.
But anyway, we'll be back in half an hour to play James O 'Brien's wonderful Mystery Hour game.
I'm actually really looking forward to it.
I think this is going to be a lot of fun.
It should be quite fun.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, Haru's showing us some stuff.
I'm like, okay, this does look fun.
I hate to credit James O 'Brien with something positive.
I don't think he developed the game himself.
Well, I doubt it, yeah.
But anyway, join us in half an hour on lowsees.com.
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