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	Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Monday the 7th of April 2025.
	I'm joined by Stelios and Steve and today we're going to be talking about what's happening in France after Le Pen was convicted.
	Yeah, the aftermath.
	The aftermath of it.
	Why the British state is just openly promoting Islam at this point and how Glasgow decided to become a sanctuary city and that worked out so brilliantly for it.
	No announcements today so let's just crack on.
	Right, so about a week ago, Marie Le Pen was convicted under the charge of embezzling funds from the EU.
	Now, she will not be able to run for the French presidency for 2027.
	She says she is going to appeal this decision, but looks like she is not going to be able to run.
	And I'm not optimistic that the French judicial system is going to overturn the ruling.
	Something tells me that they won't.
	Right, so she was fined with about €100,000 and she's going to spend, I think, about two years under house arrest.
	House arrest?
	I think so.
	Shocking. Yes.
	Absolutely shocking.
	As if she's some sort of danger to the public or something.
	These are the reports I've read.
	Yeah, no, no, I know.
	I'm not questioning whether that's correct or not.
	I'm just disgusted by it.
	Last week, Stephen did an excellent segment on the ruling.
	It was the very day, I think, it happened.
	So it was the right moment for that segment to be released.
	So definitely watch it.
	And we spoke about several things, but one of the issues was that the accusations weren't particularly plausible or that the accusations are entirely arbitrary because she was essentially accused for mishandling EU funds.
	Because she got money from the EU and part of that money was spent in France which is also part of the EU.
	But it was essentially a good opportunity for the judiciary to present it as if she was doing anti-EU work.
	The issue that I found is that when you get EU funding, funding is divided into three categories, and one of those categories is that as a group in the European Parliament, you're allocated a huge sum of money for the group, and which you can then use that money allocated to parties within the group to fund employees and activities within it, which is what she did.
	The question that I always find difficult about that is that the money comes in for a civil servant who's allocated to your group from your party.
	And they have to sign everything off.
	Just because you're the leader, it doesn't mean that you're signing off all these contracts.
	And that is what I found disgusting about it, because it's like saying every chief executive is in charge of a business, and anything, any fraud that goes below that, undertaken by anyone, and I'm not suggesting everyone was committing fraud, or anyone was, but that means that you're responsible for every person down below you.
	That's what she's been charged with.
	Right, so the next date to remember is June 2026, because she is going to appeal the ban with the Paris Court of Appeal.
	And if she were to win the appeal, she could still run.
	But people are pessimistic with respect to that.
	Right, so Le Pen says she is going to keep on fighting.
	And there was a pro-Le Pen rally.
	In Paris, and there were people who were protesting in favor of her.
	She gave a speech.
	Also, Jordan Bardella gave a speech, who is the person who is the president of the National Rally Party.
	And he's 29 years old.
	He has a very big TikTok following, but also really...
	It's pretty huge.
	photos and she says here i can express my gratitude to you for tremendous popular absurge in favor of democracy and the law that you embodied throughout france and to which your large and fervent present today bears witness And she says several other stuff.
	She says also here, it's impossible for me to hide my emotion at seeing you here and in all our departments standing by our side to defend what this decision has trampled on the foot and what I hold dear above all else, my people, my country and my honour.
	Can I just say, this just seems like obvious lawfare to me.
	I mean, the allegation of mis- or the conviction of misallocation of funds I suspect is incredibly trivial in the grand scheme of things and I imagine that many, many, many MEPs would be like, oh god, did I do this?
	Now I have to double check on everything and oh, I did this to hire an assistant there when I should have used that money for this.
	It's not corruption in the sort of grand scheme of things that we would...
	It's not corruption because that's what we saw over political parties and I think when we went through the piece last week I ran through all the political parties that have been attacked by the European Union.
	In terms of investigations, and all of them were either those on the right or what they regarded as the extreme left, doing exactly the same types of activities that the Green Party does, that the Socialists do, that Aldi did.
	There's no way that I've ever seen any investigations into their activities.
	And I find that's why I agree with you, that this is lawfare at its extreme.
	And even if...
	I mean, I'm sure she's guilty of what they're accusing her of being guilty of.
	To me, it just seems like it could have been some sort of administrative error.
	Even if that was the case, why such a harsh punishment?
	Okay, well, you've misallocated some funds.
	Okay, well, then you have to pay them back.
	You have some sort of fine.
	You have some sort of appropriate punishment for what she's done.
	Two years house arrest and ban from running from politics for the next five years?
	This seems very...
	Evidently designed to keep her out of politics.
	I think she's in the lead.
	It's definitely a political decision and something tells me that if any other politician did that, any leader of government, he wouldn't get the blame.
	Someone else would be blamed.
	Let's look at what happened to Sarkozy.
	You outsource responsibilities to other people.
	Sarkozy took a huge amount of money and he did not get banned.
	In fact, he became president afterwards.
	Christine Lagarde was involved in a huge fraud, and what was the consequence for her?
	She was given a huge job looking after the money of Europe, to be honest.
	And this is why it's particularly attacking Marie Le Pen, because she is so successful and has that chance of actually winning.
	And the popular choice.
	Yeah, and the punishment is just so disproportionate.
	It just reveals itself to be lawfare to me.
	But anyway.
	I agree with you.
	There was a counter-protest, an anti-Marie Le Pen protest that turned out to be a bit of a flop.
	Not many people went there.
	And you have someone there saying that Eric Coquerel from the LFI, I think that's a leftist party, saying, I think everyone should have been there.
	Not many people were enough there.
	There ought to have been a much larger...
	Communist presence here.
	Communist presence and the crying of Marie Le Pen.
	Right, so we're going to talk about who is happy with this, who is cheering, and the argument they say.
	And I want to sell it this way.
	I think Hamza Youssef is happy.
	And I want to play this video and actually listen to something.
	He looks delighted.
	This is the delighted expression.
	That's right.
	Yeah, but I want people to listen precisely to the words he uses because I think they reveal something really important.
	The far right are losing.
	Don't get me wrong, they're far from out.
	But this week has proven that we can defeat the far right and hit them where it hurts.
	Elon Musk has hinted he will leave as a Trump advisor next month.
	Of course, he says, it was all part of his grand plan and has nothing to do with the 36% drop in Tesla shares in the last quarter.
	The fact that Tesla has had some 460 billion US dollars...
	This sort of derails the conversation, but did you get something he said there?
	That this proves that the far right can be defeated?
	As if the only way that you can win against Marie Le Pen is not by elections, but by banning her.
	Yeah, no, that's literally what he's saying.
	That is a very important point.
	That's literally what he's saying, and he's smirking about it.
	So what he's saying is, no, no, no, all of the systems are controlled by people who agree with me, and therefore I can smugly wink at you as they come down and actually criminalise you.
	Rather than engaging in the democratic process, he's happy to use administrative warfare.
	Exactly, and I think that this is incidental.
	It expresses a very deep trend within people who think like Hamza Yousaf, and I think that those who are in the top leadership positions of the EU do think like Hamza Yousaf.
	We've been seeing it since Brexit.
	The numbers of MPs that had some form of allegation, never proven.
	But it went through an administrative process and sometimes they tried to criminalise those who were Brexiteers.
	They were out, never got succeeded.
	They tried it with Trump.
	We've seen it with the Romanian president.
	We've watched it in many, many individuals.
	The Germans thinking about simply banning the AFD.
	That's right.
	It's crazy.
	It's because they know that the tide is turning against them.
	Exactly. So it looks like they know definitely that they are entirely unpopular and they cannot win in a fair fight.
	Right. So we have an article by The Economist that hosted an Oxford called Tariq Abu.
	Chaddy, who in the...
	I'm sorry, but every time I hear about this man...
	Who in the article says that this isn't the opinion of the economist, but he says basically that this is really good for liberal democracy.
	Oh yeah, why?
	several arguments that I want to share with you and listen to what you have to say, but what is interesting, let us look at it, it has 111,000 views and 64 likes.
	That's low.
	shows a lot of how popular this position is.
	But, okay, let's also...
	Bear in mind that Twitter isn't representative of the entire world, but it looks like what Hamza Yousaf says shows that in this case we can safely say that this is ridiculous.
	Well, people can click on the article, but it's paywalled.
	But I have three points that he raises.
	Number one, the law needs to be applied.
	So this is what the rule of law is all about.
	With the heaviest hand possible.
	Number two, it will lessen support for the National Rally Front.
	Has it done that?
	I don't think it has.
	As I understand it, she's at 37% of the polls at the moment.
	She is, and also Jordan Bardella is also leading the polls in questions whether people are going to support him.
	But he says that French politics is very much person-oriented, and if Marie Le Pen doesn't run, not many people are going to rally to vote for her party.
	But he also says that the other person is a puppet of Marie Le Pen.
	That's one of their next arguments.
	We're just seeing that, I think, is it in Serbia or Montenegro, where the president has just removed the prime minister and put someone in who's a physician.
	And they're saying, well, serving needles is not enough skill to be able to become Prime Minister.
	Well, what's that of being a lawyer?
	You know, the same sort of thing.
	So they use the language that he's a puppet of the President.
	This also is...
	I mean, if your first argument is French politics is very personal, and then your second argument is people won't like this guy because he's the direct agent of Le Pen, no, he's like her closest ally.
	If it's very personal, then he is inheriting her legacy.
	And also, he says that court decisions are important moments in expressing norms.
	They signal to citizens what is and isn't accepted in a society.
	Well, look, on the principle, number one, the law should be applied, and it does send out signals.
	It's hard to argue with those very general principles that those on the left, the right, and the centre would agree on.
	But that's not what this is about.
	This is about whether, first of all, it is actually true that she did this.
	If it is, whether the sentence is commensurate with what was actually offended.
	And I think, really, for him to suggest that banning for five years, house arrest for two, when she's only got a measly €100,000 fine, it's pathetic.
	It shows clearly that is not what principle one and three is about in their eyes.
	But moreover, how is this good for liberal democracy?
	Because not only does this look like a naked attempt for the system to try and penalise and keep out someone who might want to change the current reigning order and paradigm of the country, but it's doing it in the face of popular appeal.
	So what is happening here is essentially going to be a third of France is going to say, right, so the democratic system can't work for us.
	Oh, that's a good idea.
	That's good for liberal democracy, isn't it?
	Disenfranchising morally a third of the country more than, say, yeah, you'll never get the results you think you can have through the ballot box.
	Well, if it's not the ballot box, how do they get their results?
	Do you think they're just going to give up on it and go home?
	It is not good for liberal democracy.
	It's good for their liberal democracy.
	It's good for the administrative state.
	That's what it's good for.
	Yes. And what I want to say is that the extra...
	thing to add to what you said is that you can't say that I represent a liberal institutional order a liberal democratic institutional order and suddenly completely ignore the fact that 37% of people...are going to think that the institutions are completely delegitimized.
	You can't have a viable democratic order.
	You can't have, in fact, any political order with widespread delegitimization.
	People in Germany know it much better.
	They say the same thing with the AFD when the AFD was in 12.5%.
	They said we can't do this because one out of eight people will...
	Think that the institutions are delegitimate.
	Imagine doing it with 37%.
	This is ridiculous.
	It's madness.
	Have you been seeing how the French have been trying to argue that all the people in the country are not actually happy about Marie Le Pen challenging the decision?
	Have you seen the polls that are supposed to come out saying 70% of people are saying, well, you know, the sentence is correct.
	And they picked up an old lady and said, I was a...
	I'm a fan of Marie Le Pen, but I don't think she should challenge me.
	And I think that's one of the things that they do.
	Remember for Brexit, they turned around and said, oh, we've got buyer's remorse.
	And then the Conservatives, buyer remorse.
	Now we've got Trump remorse, picking out one individual.
	Are you seeing that?
	It's everything to create a narrative, and this is how they control the way that politics goes.
	But thankfully, we have a large social media presence, and we get to fight back on this.
	Right, so if...
	The appeal doesn't work.
	The next person is going to be Jordan Bardella.
	Jordan Bardella is the president of the party and he's projected to win the French presidency as well in 2027.
	So it really didn't work.
	So I have...
	I have a few things to say about Jordan Berdella for people who don't know him.
	So he's 29 years old.
	He was born in 1995 to parents of Italian origin.
	He has a really large social media presence.
	People say that he has more than 2 million people on TikTok.
	He has no experience in government so far.
	He dropped out of university and entered the National Rally Party at, I think, the age of 17. And slowly and steadily he has risen to its ranks.
	And he's considered to be...
	People are a bit split-brained on this.
	There is a portion of the right that says he's really good and careful and he doesn't have.
	The baggage or the negative association that the party had.
	So he's sort of cleansing the party in people's mind.
	And then there's the other segment of the right that says he's actually too much of a Macronist and he's pandering, he's too much of a centrist.
	He's pandering to the institutions of a society that...
	He doesn't represent a revolutionary perspective.
	He doesn't have the solution.
	So they say that he's very meticulous, very...
	He doesn't make mistakes.
	He's very disciplined.
	And some people on the right would say, maybe we want someone with more fire in his belly.
	He doesn't seem like the guy who wants to, you know, crush the system.
	This is a big debate.
	And I think that this debate is one that every...
	Right-wing in general has, in every country.
	There are people who are more in favour of coalition building and discipline.
	There are others who are more in favour of a bit more radical language.
	But I think there's a difference here.
	We want somebody that can actually win and then make the radical change in a way, and we've seen it in terms of Trump, where he is very radical and says it in a way, and he's got an opportunity because of it.
	Yeah, I think.
	He has, yes.
	I think he did, because I think he was around when I was there.
	And I think he was pretty much controlled.
	Him and the niece of...
	Was it a daughter or niece?
	Two of them were recognised to be really quite firebrand at that time when they were younger.
	And both of them, if you've noticed, have been calmed down.
	Well, this is...
	Didn't Napoleon say never trust a man under 40 during a revolution, right?
	I get the feeling that the Zoomers are a lot more revolutionary than we give them credit for.
	Yeah, I hope he is.
	But I want to bring back the conversation to something you said about Trump, because I think the American context is very different to the European context.
	And what is considered right-wing in the US isn't necessarily what is considered right-wing in Europe.
	So I don't think that...
	It may be the case that Bardella's rhetoric is more right to the right than Trump's is.
	But people say Trump is radical and Bardella isn't or people in Europe aren't as right as they say.
	I think that people need to bear in mind that Europe and America are different.
	But our radicalization is also part of the system of taking away power from the administrative state.
	We don't want to see them controlling our civil service anymore.
	We don't want to have quangos and their think tanks that are paid for by those quangos controlling our thought processes or the policies.
	That's why we need someone radically enough to actually turn around and say we need to introduce laws that actually can be implemented immediately to remove their powers.
	That's where the difficulty is and in Europe it's even harder to do so because our civil service is even more entrenched.
	Look at the Sorbonne.
	That's the entire point of the European Union.
	A continent-wide bureaucracy that can never be challenged.
	Absolutely. And that's where they're going to have problems.
	But if they can link up, if only some of these parties could link up and say the big issue is the EU's civil service and let's pull it out with our own, then that's the real radicalisation.
	But I don't think you're going to get that in Europe, unfortunately.
	So, I think that the...
	Despite Brexit.
	Sorry, carry on.
	I think that the debate between whether someone should be a bit more careful and more disciplinarian in his approach and measured and that between being a bit more radical and showing will to break the system is one that we can have it endlessly and we will be having it in different countries.
	countries will probably require different answers to this.
	I have this by my friend Raphael, who is skeptical of the National Rally Party, and he thinks that lately people should go and read it.
	He thinks that basically that the party is dragging itself to the left, and that he has She's not doing a nod to Farage, is she?
	He told me his view, Rafael's view, is that she isn't as bad as Farage, but she's close to it.
	But he thinks that basically Bardella is going to be like Macron.
	Really? Which arguably could be worse.
	So while it says the leftization of the party is going well, I've heard complaints about the influx of leftist militants bringing their council culture into the national rally.
	But for the electorate, the national rally of Le Pen is still the national front of her father.
	They don't follow politics closely, don't really see the trend.
	And he says basically that What Le Pen did for 15 years is what Farage is doing now.
	She's thriving on the memory of her father, which is still associated to the party in the mind of the older electorate.
	And her spokesman, Jordan Bardella, makes funny TikTok videos for Zoomers.
	And he says that, essentially, that this...
	He doesn't...
	He's very skeptical of this strategy.
	Now, personally, I don't know.
	His Frenchie has a much better idea of what is going on there.
	But I think Raphael's voice is an interesting one to bear in mind.
	I think what concerns me there is that it's not a grassroots bottom-up organization anymore.
	I mean, there is an element with any political party that suddenly the top takes over because they've grown and they've become so big.
	And I recognize that in the National Party.
	But what is important is whether they're really engaging with those people who supported them and built them.
	Whether their views, their radicalised ideas, are still being encapsulated in the policies.
	And that's where Farage is failing.
	Completely. As we can completely see.
	He's not just moving to the left.
	He's removing the very fire that's in the belly of most people to be able to succeed in change in this country.
	I don't even know what Nigel wants to do.
	I don't even know what his plan is.
	House of Lords and get a really nice TV slot.
	Exactly. Beyond that.
	What actual radical change?
	Any change?
	What would he do when he was in government?
	And honestly, it seems to, from his, just his speeches, it seems to be to the left of Starmer.
	I couldn't agree more.
	I look at the man that kind of encouraged me to step into the field and many others that I saw and he is not the individual that we saw but what just...
	It breaks my heart, and I hope that they're not going to break the hearts of the French supporters and Marie Le Pen with Bardella, is that you just don't feel that he's going to make any of those massive achievements that we want.
	And he'll sell them down the line, as he did with the Brexit supporters when he took their money and said, you can stand.
	Oh, we're closing the doors now because of a deal with the Tories.
	I just feel that that's where they're going.
	I hope not.
	I pray for those people who are supporting them and backing them with all their energy and enthusiasm.
	But if that's what's happening in France as well, that's a sad state of affairs.
	I think.
	But I'll end the segment by saying that it's easy to get demoralized, but also demoralization works until it doesn't.
	And a lot of people are getting demoralized with the completely anti-liberal and anti-democratic rulings of the EU.
	But they are also getting really enraged with it.
	So I think at some point demoralization, people will stop being demoralized and become very enraged.
	So I think that this is something politicians need to bear in mind.
	Well, this in fact goes to the comment that the engaged viewer sent in.
	It remains true that when men denied a voice, they will of painful necessity reach for their swords.
	That's exactly the point.
	So to have a professor in Oxford saying, oh no, this is good for liberal democracy, it's like, well...
	That's an almost childlike perspective on anything.
	Everyone knows that's not good for democracy when the major parties start banning political figures or the party themselves.
	It's the sign of a civilization whose political system is like a spinning top starting to lose the energy that keeps it moving.
	Yes, they are.
	Anyway. So, the question that has sprung to the forefront of my mind in the last week or so is why is the British state so vociferously promoting Islam?
	Because it has been embarrassing to see, if nothing else, but also Suspect and weird.
	And I don't like it.
	Because as the census in 2021 showed us, actually Britain has a very small percentage of Muslims.
	6.5%.
	You wouldn't know, given the representation that they are given in the public sphere, that 93.5% of people in this country are not Muslims.
	You'd think that this was a broadly Muslim country.
	And this is why Americans are constantly going on about, oh, Britain's been taken over by a caliphate.
	It's like, no, nowhere near, actually.
	It's just our government love Islam.
	Our state institutions love Islam, and they feel that it's essentially a form of virtue signaling to signal to Islam, even though that's a tiny constituency of the population.
	And they're centered in major...
	Yes. So you...
	Travel most of the country, you'll never see a Muslim.
	Go to Bradford or Manchester or somewhere like that, yes, you'll see lots of Muslims, but they're very disconnected from the rest of the country.
	So it's very strange that the government has decided, no, we're going to use these people to project out into the rest of the nation.
	I mean, for example, Britain is 12% Scottish.
	You don't see a St.
	Andrew's cross everywhere.
	You don't hear about Scottish days of the holy days or holidays or anything like this.
	You don't hear it.
	Yet there are twice as many Scots as there are Muslims in this country.
	What is going on?
	Why is this the case?
	And I just wanted to explore that bit.
	But like I said, there's a reason that the Americans think that we've been conquered.
	King Charles, the royal family.
	Charles, a famous orientalist.
	Rumours that he's converted to Islam.
	I find plausible, frankly.
	But it's probably not that he's converted to Islam.
	It's completely fine and normal and accepted by all of the people around him to fetishize Islam.
	And so to post things like this, of course they don't post about Lent.
	No, that was interesting.
	When we looked at the Labour Party, they didn't seem to put any posts out for Lent or for Easter at all, but they were quite happy.
	To do this.
	Yep, that's exactly right.
	Similarly, when I was looking at Aidan Murack, I didn't see anything about Lent on the Royal Family's websites either.
	No, and neither the Labour Party, the current governing...
	Well, the current governing party, they have never made a post about Lent.
	A similar image on both of those sites.
	Yeah. It's a similar sort of...
	It looks as though it's been coordinated by some public relations officer for the government.
	Yeah, it undoubtedly has.
	They've undoubtedly got some sort of Islamic public relations...
	The Muslim Council of Britain have recommended some little group or something.
	I don't know.
	I'm making this up.
	It's going to be something like that.
	Where they'll just...
	it's going to go, right, okay, yeah, this will be that essentially promotes Islam and Muslims in Britain.
	And the Labour Party in many constituencies rely on these, and they're already losing Muslim votes, so this isn't going to work.
	I think there was a Guardian article speaking about someone who was a cook, a chef, during Ramadan, talking about his plight, saying no one knows about the plight of a chef during Ramadan, and there was massive backlash.
	Everyone said no one cares.
	I don't care!
	Again, 6.5% of the population.
	I'd rather hear about haggis on Burns Night than hear about bloody Ayd Mubarak from bloody Muslims.
	But anyway, no, the Labour Party, of course, like I said, have never posted about Lent, even though there are many more Christians in Britain than there are Muslims, but it doesn't matter because that's not what this is about.
	Starmer held this Iftar event in...
	Parliament? I don't know if there is.
	I don't care.
	And I'm just amazed by the massive people behind him at that event.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You can see that Starmer is courting a client group.
	Yes. Here is a minority that we've brought into Britain and we're trying to keep on side.
	But of course, if the independent Muslim MPs, the Gaza caucus, has shown us anything, they're not going to stay there and let me know this.
	This is electorally just ridiculous.
	It's suicidal.
	Yeah, because they want the vote.
	But if mass migration continues, at some point, the other side is going to reach a critical mass, and they're going to make parties of their own.
	And they won't get the votes.
	And we're going to see that.
	I'm just going to mute that.
	But you see this sort of joy on his face.
	Sorry, carry on.
	He's genuinely thrilled to be doing this.
	He loves the fact that he gets to pander to a foreign minority group.
	But you're absolutely right.
	They are going to start forming their own...
	Islamic Party, like they've done in Belgium.
	And we are going to see that as being a core part of our politics going forward.
	How many have they got?
	They've got four at the moment.
	Well, five with Jeremy Corbyn.
	Five with Jeremy Corbyn.
	But once they get to it, I think it's a level of ten as MPs.
	They get a lot more money, a lot more funding, and a lot more power within there, as we saw.
	That's why the grouping are trying to make sure that reform didn't form a group of ten.
	And I can see that in the next election.
	I mean, there's at least, they're calculating, what is it, 25 potential seats they can get if they join together now?
	So it's understandable why the Labour Party are essentially projecting themselves as just being the party of Islam.
	As far as anyone would take from what they're saying here, again, as Inevitable West points out, it's Mother's Day and Lent, but you choose Ramadan over British Mothers and Christians.
	Yes, because Labour want to frame themselves as the party of Islam to capture Muslim votes.
	However, they aren't themselves Muslims.
	If I was a Muslim, and I wanted Muslim concerns represented in the British Parliament, why would I vote for an Englishman like Keir Starmer?
	Have you ever seen a leftist trying to approach Christianity electorally?
	Maybe they have, it's just the way I see it, I just can't picture it.
	Maybe they have.
	No, no, no.
	They haven't.
	They never do.
	They hate Christianity.
	They only ever treat it subversively, but you're jumping the gun here when you get to this in a little bit.
	But as you can see, Keir Starmer, as the holy month of Ramadan ends, I wish Muslims in the UK and across the world a blessed and joyful Eid al-Fitr.
	Eid Mubarak.
	Oh, well then, that's so unbelievably progressive of you, Keir.
	Anyway, so the next one is, of course, the BBC.
	Now, this was a bit of a strange thing.
	So as you can see here, Eid celebration can be lonely for Muslim reverts.
	And you might be thinking, what's a revert?
	Well, I did think that.
	I was very confused by it.
	What was it?
	So, revert is a term that some Muslims use.
	In fact, you can see from the community note.
	Because they pretend that they think that all people are in fact Islamic until they stop being Muslim.
	And so if someone converts to Islam, they're actually reverting to Islam.
	Basically, it's a very cheap way of talking past the sale.
	And it's not persuasive to anyone.
	And it's the kind of framing that only exclusively exists within the Islamic mindset, of course.
	Do Jehovah's Witnesses or is it Seventh-day Adventists have something like, you can only be one of them and they're trying to take all the blood samples?
	Are they the opposite sides?
	I don't know.
	Finding your true self.
	Again? But the point is, you wouldn't say this, and you wouldn't call this, as you can say, you can be lonely for Muslim reverts as people of charity.
	You wouldn't portray this as being the framing of Islam unless you weren't essentially within the mindset.
	So I'm actually, really, I was born a Muslim.
	One day, if I come back, I'm a revert.
	That's what they'll claim, yes.
	And like I said, it's a very cheap way of talking past the sale, and it's kind of embarrassing, actually, because no one believes it.
	But you'll notice that they changed the headline for the actual article, because there was a lot of backlash saying, what, are you an Islamic institution now, BBC?
	Because this is the Islamic narrative.
	This is the thing you say from the position of being within Islam, and that would imply that the BBC itself was, of course, an Islamic.
	Again, it's a very subtle and subversive thing.
	And the backlash at least caused them to change it.
	But what's interesting about this is that this one woman was a convert to Islam.
	They actually used converted to Islam in the article instead of revert.
	But they say, well, it's isolating and learning.
	Okay, well, they say...
	When people come into Islam, they kind of lose themselves.
	They feel like they need to adapt to be someone else.
	Like, for example, it might be a new way of cooking, a new way of dressing.
	We say, look, you can do that, but you can be who you are.
	And so basically what she's saying here is, essentially I had to convert to Arabic culture.
	That's what's happening when they convert to Islam.
	And so Hayley Oliver from Peterborough, a different woman I think, tells us that she was 15 years old when she converted to Islam in 1998 after being inspired by her Muslim friends.
	It felt very isolated.
	Peterborough, for anyone who doesn't know, is one of those towns that has a very sizable Muslim majority that kind of usually occupy a kind of separate ethnic enclave in the town.
	She says, as a new Muslim, you're trying to find your feet, find your identity, which is why you need support around you.
	She says her family thought she'd been brainwashed, and she was kicked out of the house after the 9-11 attacks.
	And she says, you do feel alone.
	You don't feel totally accepted from the born Muslims.
	You don't feel accepted at all from your own kind.
	Isn't that interesting?
	Well, that's right.
	And I don't see why that's a surprise for her.
	To accept that, because most people, when they are in different cultures like that, particularly in the Middle East, they do look differently upon those who are, you know, converted into theirs.
	I mean, I look at and read a lot about Malcolm X and his conversion.
	The initial conversion, they were actually very concerned about him.
	But once he was seen to be rising and accepting Islam, he was suddenly accepted really brutally and very, very successfully because he was now a marketing tool for them.
	That's interesting that essentially there's still a hierarchy of validity inside of the religion.
	And so she says, I question, what am I?
	Who are my people?
	And the answer is, Miss Oliver, you're English.
	Your people are the English.
	Why have you gone over to the Pakistanis?
	And it's obviously because of social pressure, because of the diversification of the United Kingdom.
	And she says, well look, now I feel like reverts do our own thing instead of looking for acceptance.
	So what they've done is applied to this, the intersectional identity creation process.
	There's now a separate identity called reverts, and there's a very small minority constituency within Islam of reverts, and they're all going to band together in online groups and things to essentially carve out a separate identity from Muslim.
	So you can see how the subversive nature of leftism is already inside Islam and chipping away at its foundations because...
	I can't see that happening for long.
	Somehow I get a feeling that they may come down upon that very, very harshly.
	Maybe when they're in charge, but who knows?
	But the point is you can see the subversive, deconstructive nature of leftism everywhere.
	Even within Islam, which is why I've got a bet with a friend of mine that actually Islam's going to lose to social justice.
	He doesn't think so, and I guess we'll see.
	Anyway, so she also points out that Eid is quite boring, and she doesn't really like it, but what are you going to do?
	So there was a chap who writes for Five Pillars who deleted a tweet, so I can't get...
	He obviously knew you were coming on the show, so he's going to be ridiculed enough.
	I don't know why he deleted this tweet.
	I have it written down.
	I didn't take a screenshot of it, unfortunately.
	And it's not on the Wayback Machine.
	It wasn't a very extreme tweet or anything like that, right?
	He said, the BBC has changed this headline from revert to convert after right-wing nutters complained revert implied we're not all born Muslim.
	Right-wing nutters would be correct on that.
	He says, well, facts are facts.
	We are all born in a state of Islamic purity before many of us succumb to un-Islamic ideologies.
	Again, talking past that.
	No, that's embarrassing.
	I don't believe in Islamic purity.
	I was just going to ask, what is Islamic purity?
	There's no such thing.
	It looks like some people want to rediscover their childhood, become children again, and they attach Islam to it for some reason.
	It never works.
	It never works.
	You can't step into the same...
	Do you think, taking on your point about the kind of leftism and the socialism being inculcating itself across all the spectrum of our society, that they're now, even when they're trying to speak like this, Islamic purity, it's just seeping through into their head in ridiculous sentences?
	I mean, maybe.
	There's a lack of logic in that.
	But the point being, no one believes you, because you could just apply that to anything.
	Well, all children are born in a state of Buddhist purity, and you would have to come down to, yeah, but I have an intrinsic prejudice towards Islam because I'm a Muslim.
	It's like, okay, but that guy's got an intrinsic prejudice towards Buddhism because he's a Buddhist.
	There's no right or wrong here.
	Again, it's just lazy propaganda.
	But anyway, so, the BBC, big on Islam, 40 minutes of Eid live from the Bradford Central Mosque.
	Which pick of the day, apparently.
	Why? Why?
	Why are they doing this for 6% of the population?
	Where is the St. Andrew's Day from Edinburgh Cathedral on BBC?
	This particular group is being pushed very, very hard by the BBC, and they have been for years, by the way.
	Here's a series they had in 2014, Make Me a Muslim.
	The documentary follows five girls as they embrace Islam.
	So what you're seeing here, the BBC is by far the largest media outlet in the United Kingdom, for anyone who doesn't know.
	What you're seeing here is a subtle attempt at persuading people to go along with it.
	So not only is this framed incredibly positively, it's a positive thing, that all of these people are discovering as they're reverting to Islam, but they gain status out of it.
	They gain attention out of it.
	You'll get a BBC documentary that's in your favor, published, that millions of people will watch.
	That's amazing propaganda.
	It's amazing, isn't it?
	Amazing propaganda.
	Yeah, St. Andrew was far right.
	No doubt that he was.
	But you don't, exactly, you don't get, you know, what was the Scottish Presbyterianism, is it?
	That's the Scottish church, isn't it?
	The Church of Scotland.
	So you don't have the BBC trying to get people to convert to Presbyterianism, even though they're twice the number of Muslims in this country.
	Why not?
	Why not my journey into Presbyterianism?
	Apart from the fact that...
	Anyway, I'm just going to make a joke.
	There's no need to make jokes about Scottish Presbyterian Church of Scotland.
	Hey, look, I'm English.
	The Church of England is fit for destruction at this point.
	But the point being, you can see how this is being put out, not only with the intention of, oh, look, we just want to promote this person, but also to show other people you have a path that you can travel down to that will get affirmative responses from the establishment.
	Keir Starmer will start...
	Posting about your religion.
	You'll get a thing with the BBC.
	You'll be accepted by the structures and the powers that be.
	Rather than being on the outside of that, where you're just ignored.
	You're just called far right.
	It's like celebrate Mubarak for...
	Eat Mubarak for female liberation.
	Yeah, kind of.
	That level of logic and plausibility.
	But it's not even that.
	Do you want to be within the circle of grace that is promoted by the state?
	Because I tell you what, English culture isn't.
	They're building a massive mosque.
	This I find absolutely...
	As someone who loves the Lake District, I'm appalled by this, how they've managed to get this.
	There are virtually no Muslims in the Lake District.
	That's right.
	So this probably Qatar-funded mosque has planning permission, and this has pissed a lot of people off, frankly.
	But notice how the lead of this story, far-right group visit mosque site condemned.
	So do you want to be condemned?
	By the power that it's to be.
	You're just some random individual who doesn't like what's happening in your country.
	Do you want to be condemned by these massive, multi-million pound institutions, the Prime Minister, the sort of social elite of the country?
	Do you want to be condemned?
	Or do you want to be praised?
	Where are the incentives?
	Which one are you going to find more appealing if you're just some random person in the street?
	You know?
	And so, I mean, this is just...
	Insufferable, frankly.
	So there's a group of Muslim doctors who are spearheading these plans.
	Britain first held a demonstration outside of them with a banner saying no mosque here.
	And they'd created a petition to revoke the planning permission that had been signed by 70,000 people.
	But of course...
	They're all far right.
	Yeah, they're all far right and nobody cared.
	I think there was a thing in this as well that was very interesting.
	Which was that it had been...
	There we go.
	So, apparently, supply chains were hesitant about being involved in the project.
	And Mr. Malik here says, it's not that I believe there was discrimination on their part.
	I think they were more concerned about the repercussions that it may have to their businesses.
	Yeah, you're damn right.
	If I thought that you were part of a business that was complicit in building a giant mosque in the Lake District, I wouldn't buy from you.
	I'd buy from anyone else, frankly.
	I'm sorry.
	I think that's something we need to start thinking about, really.
	Anyway, so how many people convert to Islam every year?
	This surely represents an organic upswing in what the British people are like, doesn't it?
	Doesn't it?
	No, probably about 5,000 a year, most of them women who marry Muslim men.
	Now, this is from 2013.
	This may have changed.
	I couldn't find anything more recent on the number of people who have converted to Islam.
	But given how we've had millions of them immigrating here and the population is still Only 6.5%.
	It suggests that the British public themselves are not en masse converting, and so this is a very artificial thing being promoted by the establishment.
	The reason that these women mostly convert, by the way, is because they marry Muslim men and they just say, look, you need to convert to Islam, so they do.
	But even the right wing are like this in Britain.
	Even the right wing in Britain genuflect to Islam.
	For example, if you're a member of Reform and you say that Islam is a false religion, You will get suspended from the party if we can get the mirror up.
	There we go.
	So this candidate called Miss Thomas, the Sunday Mirror, learned that she had repeatedly posted on Facebook that Islam is a false religion.
	So Nigel Farage took action against that.
	Where's the freedom of speech there, Mr Farage?
	It's not even there.
	How dare you not affirm Islam?
	You can't be a member of Reform.
	She had posted an online image claiming that Muslim people are trying to take control of the UK and impose Sharia law.
	Well, that is definitely true, at least in parts of the country where they have de facto Sharia law in these areas.
	And she had posted another image that depicted Islam as a snake devouring the person feeding it from a bottle.
	And after alerting the party to the post, a Reform spokesman said, yes, she's been fired out of a cannon into the sun.
	She's been deselected, and we've withdrawn all support for her candidacy.
	And so, great.
	That's just great, isn't it?
	So even the right-wing party, the far-right party, as we hear from led-by-donkeys constantly, will fire you if you are critical of a religion.
	But only one religion.
	One religion.
	Only one religion, that's true.
	I bet if they're critical of the Church of England, they won't get fired.
	Good point.
	So, the point is, the entire establishment seems to be desperate to affirm Islam, promote Islam, and get you to convert to Islam.
	And so the answer is why.
	Why are they doing this?
	The question is why.
	And I think the answer to that is because it has become socially unacceptable to push woke.
	Now, the powers that be, and the institutions, the universities, I think that they want to do everything that is subversive against the country.
	Undermine the morale of the native population to make it so they won't politically organize in their own interests and they will end up essentially losing their own personal identities and losing the collective identity of their countries and woke was a vector for them to do this.
	We can attack Britain using woke.
	Well, that's become unpopular.
	We're very aware of what woke is now.
	We're not having it.
	You'll lose people's attention, lose their business.
	I think what happens here is that there is a backlash against woke in the UK because of Islam.
	And there was this contradiction between the very left, you know, the trans stuff and the LGBTQ plus wing.
	I think though that the Islamists are so many now and their numbers are growing and they see that appealing to the LGBTQ wing Doesn't get them any sort of true support.
	So, in order to not lose the Muslims...
	There's also two funding arms.
	The LGTB wing is very powerful economically, but still, particularly in the US, a lot of funding coming through.
	As we know, when it came to what they called equal marriage, that was funded by people like Elton John and those who were coming over from the US who were actors and actresses over there.
	And what you also have is a very powerful economic wing of the Islamists.
	And you talked about who's funding the mosque.
	We know where the funding's coming from.
	It's either Saudi Arabia, it's the UAE, and Qatar.
	So they're all funding those mosques around the country because they see that as a way of having their own external influence globally.
	They're no different than what they saw Turkey doing 300 years ago under the Ottoman Empire.
	This is their turn as they see it.
	And the leftists are the traitors who are holding open the gates.
	Essentially it's a kind of civilizational shit test.
	What they're saying is you will not stand up for yourselves and therefore we will destroy you.
	This is what it comes down to and so we kind of need to unapologetically say no to it.
	You've hit on an incredibly important point that I've been considering for quite some time is why do we not have a definition?
	That's legally enforceable in this country when you're called you are a right-wing fascist or you are a racist.
	The only person who's ever been able to take that on is Lawrence Fox and he spent a lot of money and the court declined to accept that the words used against him were racist and indeed that you can lose your livelihood.
	For being called racist.
	And so we need to have somebody with deep pockets to challenge that in the courts, first of all.
	Push it all the way up.
	But if the courts simply decide against you, then that leaves us legally defenceless.
	True, but what it also does, it opens up a door.
	And that door says that you no longer accept that what is a clear definition of racism, you're saying it's open-ended to however you feel.
	And that's unacceptable in today's common law.
	And I do believe we need to have somebody who can take that challenge on.
	Anyway, the point being, I think that this is just part of the continual subversive nature of the people who hate Britain, who somehow find themselves in charge of our entire country.
	next year says uh a couple of things i'll scroll down to find um uh sorry mark arabic says ethno fetishism is the term take it freely good to see mr wolf again regards uh next year says this is about undermining everything christian they hate christianity starman knows we're built on christianity but to get to utopia and the cultural revolution he wants he must undermine christianity yeah this is the thing they they don't love islam they
	And they think that if there is any kind of problem in the future, that they're going to be able to win.
	Yes, but they don't think that there's going to be.
	I'm sure that they think the Muslims will essentially give up their faith in the same way the Christians did.
	And Inexio also says that Christ is Lord.
	Sigilstone says we're all born in the state of Islamic purity until we discover the corrupting power of bacon.
	No, there's no such thing as a state of Islamic purity.
	See, Inexio, the UK needs its own reconquista.
	No, we don't.
	We're not controlled by Muslims.
	The Muslims are a tiny percent of the population.
	It's just that the left-wing governments and establishments are using Islam as a kind of smokescreen to make you think this.
	But it's just not true.
	They're just giving them special privileges.
	Anyway, let's move on.
	So what's happening in Glasgow?
	Yeah, I think this is when we come to what you're talking about.
	Somebody who absolutely...
	I don't know how to...
	You can teach me that for next time.
	But what we have here is another example of an organisation that hates the British state.
	In this case, it's the Scottish National Party.
	And they've made it explicit.
	It's all about destroying England, isn't it?
	They don't like Britain.
	They don't like England.
	And one of the things I think they caught on to is a long time ago was that about refugees and asylum seekers.
	So we have Glasgow...
	has been, as you see here, with Scotland standing together with the Scottish Refugee Council, which receives millions in funding from the state.
	It says, we stand together with refugees, and as you slip down through there, you'll see all these people saying aye to welcome refugees, and as we're moving up through it again, going down to the language, the heading, thanks so much.
	It should be just underneath there.
	Thanks so much for joining us together, Together with Refugees.
	Now, if you look at that, that's going back to 2021, and there were hundreds of people gathering outside the trade hall with various organisations.
	The key fruits, and I'll come back to that, is a coalition of 300 organisations.
	So, the Refugee Council, based in Glasgow, coming out, supporting masses of refugees coming into Scotland.
	And then you go to the next one, we have the S&P has welcomed asylum and a welcome sign.
	This was, I found, shocking when doing the research on this, with human traffickers and people smugglers, with an asylum proposal that allows asylum seekers the right to work in Scotland as soon as they arrive.
	So, you get here and you can get a job.
	And not only that, those jobs are open in local authorities, and guess what, the NGOs and the organisations that are actually also being funded by those local authorities to help support more refugees.
	So you can get a job with the government or an NGO.
	Instantly. That's their proposals, and they were labelled absurd as we come through.
	It's in the Scottish Daily Express on this, so you'll see that there are various people who oppose this.
	But then we go on to the next one, is the Scottish Government.
	It comes down here, and we slow this.
	We believe refugees, this is the asylum and refugees from the Scottish Government, Ministry of Equalities.
	Refugees and people seeking asylum should be welcomed.
	I think that we've seen that kind of welcome in Britain.
	It's a historical element.
	I accept that.
	There's a need sometimes to support and integrate into our communities from day one.
	So, what did they do?
	They created a new Scots refugee integration strategy.
	Sorry, I just hate this.
	New Scots.
	Yep. Just...
	Alright, yeah.
	Right, so he has lots of organisations, again, once again, the Scottish Government, the COSLA, which is basically all the local authorities in Scotland, Scottish Refugee Council, partnered with public, private and third sector.
	That third sector is a phrase I've always disliked.
	It's just basically an opportunity for people to receive funding from local authorities.
	Where they wouldn't get funding from the taxpayer in the first place.
	But we can give it now and when we look at who they are.
	So we have the Refugee Council and I think I went down to an image that said after that that showed that 300 organisations going through.
	I think we might go on to that.
	The basic principle is what you're looking at is Scotland has built itself around this idea that we're going to accept Refugees, we're big and welcoming.
	We've created a new integration strategy which shows that we can try and get you into work.
	We want a policy to enable you to have jobs as soon as you arrive.
	Look how well we are.
	And I'm going to move on.
	Sorry, before we move on, I just...
	There's something about the new Scott that I'm hung up on that I can't get past.
	That's exactly...
	That is exactly one of the points that I'm looking...
	Oh, sorry, am I...
	No, you're right, and I'm glad you've picked up on that, because that was one of the things that I found absolutely fascinating.
	I find it kind of disgusting.
	Being Scottish is a costume.
	Yeah, but not only that, like, who are the new Scots?
	Well, they're anyone, that's the thing.
	A refugee is not anyone from any one place, right?
	It's anyone from anywhere.
	But, like, if I went to Greece, I wouldn't call myself a new Greek, because it seems very...
	I use Greece all the time, because I really like Greece.
	And you're Greek.
	And so it's a convenient thing to use, right?
	But out of respect, I wouldn't try and essentially eliminate the boundary of what makes someone Greek compared to someone not being Greek, right?
	It's totally disrespectful.
	It's disrespectful to Scotland.
	But this is planned.
	It's just a view that they see newcomers all being welcomed as Scottish as if they are the kind of historical element that goes all the way back to those who fought the Romans who were up there fighting the Danes.
	As if that sort of person is a Scot.
	And what I see from it is actually a view that we're dismissing history.
	There's no ancestry here.
	There's no DNA.
	You're just Scottish because you're living in Scotland.
	Changing. Yeah, it's like...
	You can be whoever you want to be.
	You support another team.
	There's something more to it than that, though, because they do this with Sweden and Germany as well, which are themselves quite strong identities.
	You know, it's obvious what a Swede is and what a German is.
	It's obvious what a Scot is.
	And so they go, okay, these are new Scots, a subcategory of Scots.
	But they never say the new English, right?
	Whereas English is quite a weak identity these days.
	And I find it, but it's also kind of undesirable identity for them.
	They don't like the English.
	Whereas you can see they like the Scots.
	And so because of a kind of favouritism that the state displays towards Scotland.
	And like the Scottish National Party and the Scottish Government.
	They're actually essentially destroying the nature of Scottish identity but passing us over because they assume our identity is essentially dead.
	Well, I think that fits in to where I...
	Trail back in history to where do I think that they really started en masse to attack the British culture and being English.
	And that goes back to Barbara Roche's speech when she was Home Secretary in 2001, where she put out a statement that we're all immigrants in Britain.
	Yes. And from that point on, she then led it with three speeches of various organisations over the next two years.
	And that mantra...
	That, you know, all Brits were immigrants was the point at which they then start to talk about integration, accepting more people, and that British culture is nothing about where we were at background.
	And I see this New Scots as an element of exactly that extension.
	We now need to go and say there's no Welsh.
	There's no Scots.
	But what this is doing is essentially to say that the Welsh and the Scots, and of course the English, have no right to their own country.
	No, no, you're a nation of immigrants.
	We're not the United States.
	You've taken this narrative wholesale from America, but we aren't the Americans.
	I mean, the Welsh in particular have been here since time immemorial.
	The English have been here for 1,500 years, and the Scots for about the same.
	So it's just a way of disinheriting us from our ancient lands.
	Although I would say, and I'm going to argue when my book is eventually published on this particular issue, that what will hate the Scots and the Welsh will hate is that they were the first English.
	Because it was us fighting.
	The Romans and us fighting the Danes that pushed ourselves out to Wales, to Cornwall and to Scotland.
	We were the originals.
	So they were actually the first English.
	Well, I wouldn't call them English.
	They were the Britons, weren't they?
	I accept that we only became really English once we started to get the English kings coming in and we had the formation of England.
	It's literally the Anglo-Saxons.
	That's right.
	The old English word for the ethnic Anglo-Saxons was Angleson.
	And that's where English comes from.
	Have you ever been to Anglesey?
	I've got a story about that I can say offline.
	But if we go back, then I want to go on to the next link.
	After that, we have this.
	Now this has been coming for a while, and I find this.
	You've got to link it into the two things we've just been talking about.
	First of all...
	We have Glasgow saying we welcome refugees.
	We're a sanctuary city.
	Look how brilliant they are.
	We can bring them in.
	Second, we're going to create an integration process for the new Scots.
	We're going to give them jobs and opportunities.
	But by the way, now, more of them coming in and the council's costing, says it's costing them tens of millions as homeless refugees are granted asylum.
	Into the country.
	And that's because not only are they being dispersed from the government in terms of dispersal programmes like the Afghan Refuge Resettlement Scheme, but they're also being dispersed under the scheme for housing where asylums arrive.
	And Mears Group is one of the biggest groups that organises housings in Scotland.
	They're filling up the hotels.
	But as the country is...
	And this is exactly what they've been wanting.
	It goes through the asylum process, grants so many of them the right to remain.
	They're staying in Scotland.
	They're absolutely staying in Scotland.
	That's why they're getting their money.
	And that's it.
	Because what has the Scottish government got?
	And I don't know whether I had this down in an image or not after this, or whether it's just another link.
	But there is a really important point about...
	Oh, this is right.
	So it goes on.
	They brought it on themselves.
	I think this should be an image coming up.
	About the Fresh Talent Initiative.
	Can we get that up please, Samson?
	And it was just a link that I put in, because the Fresh Talent Initiative, you've just gone through the link to it.
	The Fresh Talent Initiative goes back to 2010, feeds in with the new Scottish initiative, and it says, just as a summary if we don't get that, look at Scotland, our population is declining, we therefore need to bring in more people into the country.
	And therefore fund it through our taxes to help get all of these in.
	So we're linking into that.
	So we do have what I view is a very core strategy of Scotland to displace the Scots.
	And here it is.
	Fresh Talent Initiative.
	This fostered development of a more inclusive attitude towards refugees and a real difference between Scottish politics and that of Westminster.
	Westminster that recognises at that particular time that we should try and manage immigration and look at controlling costs.
	Scotland's saying we need to attract more skilled migrant workers.
	Then they have the New Scots initiative.
	The reality, they're now going back onto this.
	What they're going is they're not getting the skilled migrants.
	Really? Not at all.
	Giving a bunch of handouts didn't attract skilled migrants.
	This happens across Europe.
	And I will go into that now, in this image.
	And this is one of the reasons why they're struggling.
	Because right at the top there, Scotland abolished the priority need test over a decade ago.
	Part of that strategy of bringing in the new Scot.
	Part of the new initiative to bring in more people into Scotland.
	So they said, if you're unintentionally homeless now, it's not down to people who live in the area in Glasgow or in Aberdeen.
	It's open to everybody.
	The priority need is gone.
	Really? That may well have attracted lots of people from elsewhere to come and live in Glasgow.
	And you're right.
	Look at the bottom there.
	In a letter to Dame Angela, Councillor Alan Casey says nearly 1,000 of the refugees who've accessed Glasgow's homelessness services have been living elsewhere in the UK.
	Well done, you played yourselves.
	And that's it.
	That is the point.
	They're now beginning to recognise in Scotland...
	That by opening their arms to the unskilled, having changed your laws to allow anybody to claim housing, that all the asylum seekers who are living in different parts of the country are going, well, it's really difficult living here.
	It's not very nice.
	They're not giving me free money.
	I'm not getting a house.
	I'm living in a hostel.
	I'm living in a bed and breakfast.
	Didn't you hear about Scotland?
	If you go up there in a homelessness, you can now get up there and get a house.
	Amazing. And now they're facing it and you've got this potential risk.
	And what are the Scots doing?
	Are they saying, we recognise now it's causing social incohesion?
	Were we going to be surprised by that?
	No. Local Scots are now angry about it.
	You see it in Northern Ireland, where you've got Protestants and Catholics coming together saying there's too many.
	What they're worried about is Protestants and Catholics are coming together in Glasgow, where they've had their old enemies.
	To say this, and they're now seeing this politically.
	Their solution is not to stop the refugees.
	It is about asking Britain for more money.
	Angela Eagle, give us tens of millions of the English money to fund our pet project.
	I mean, that's just historically normal for the Scots to require English money after they've messed up their own economy and require us to bail them out.
	That's how Britain was formed.
	In the first place.
	But I think this feeds into what you're talking about.
	You can see from the back documents that we've put up there, this cohesive plan that they've created in around 2000 to 2010.
	This is the Blair years.
	This is where they wanted to destroy England, wanted to destroy Britain.
	And the way they could do that was mass immigration.
	Because on one hand, you had big corporates saying, well, you're not producing enough babies, therefore we've got a population decline, so that fits in with big business.
	But it also fits in with the socialist ideal of destroying Britain.
	Yes, it does.
	Sorry. Cranky Texan says, the trouble with Scotland is it's full of Scots.
	That's unironically the position of the Scottish government.
	Chris Fitchins once predicted that this would happen, but I don't think anyone expected it to be so bad.
	Yeah. So this, I find this just remarkable.
	How Scottish people are still so goddamn woke.
	They're a really woke country.
	I mean, I kind of wish Scotland had got its independence at this point because then at least it wouldn't be our problem.
	We wouldn't have to pay for it.
	But look, here we are.
	We've got to pay for this.
	Because the Scots aren't going to bloody pay for it.
	Well, they're not.
	And my issue with it is if we'd given Scotland independence, unfortunately, we would have had to build a wall as big as that being seen across Mexico.
	Because... There isn't a huge economy out there.
	There isn't this land of Nirvana that the SNP thinks.
	It's actually a country funded predominantly by us, through our taxpayers.
	We give a precept that is far bigger for them than they would accept.
	And if their economy was to collapse, particularly if we're looking now, with the world changing, they'd have to go to the EU begging for money.
	Who's the fat SNP MP?
	Ian something.
	It's really, really annoying.
	SMP MP.
	Oh, yeah.
	Who's... I can't remember the guy's name.
	Ian Blackstone or something.
	Blackwell. I think it's just Ian Black.
	Blackwell is...
	Ian Black, maybe?
	I can't remember.
	But I remember seeing a clip of him a couple of years ago in Parliament saying that Scotland was subsidising England.
	And I was just like, how has this guy come to this conclusion?
	Like, there's just no evidence for this.
	It's just preposterous.
	Anyway, have we got video comments today, Samson?
	Russian says, fantastic to see Stephen back again.
	Well, there we go.
	Thank you.
	No, okay.
	Chase says, we've banned and imprisoned the pen for embezzlement.
	Great, but how is that good for liberal democracy?
	Liberal democracy?
	Yeah, that's really not what it's about, is it?
	I don't know what's going on with my throat today.
	Optional Scott says, clearly Andrew Tate influencing the British government to be more Islamic.
	Well, the thing, I'm so tired of hearing about Andrew Tate at this point.
	He really has been vastly overstated.
	Yeah, I think so, yeah.
	And this is why it feeds into this misogynist argument.
	I think, yes, he's got a huge number of followers.
	From what I understand, I've actually, to be honest, never watched any of his shows.
	Some elements about living a clean life, not taking drugs, looking after yourself in the gym, all of them seem pretty positive aspects for young men to follow.
	Yeah, but he's got a lot of stuff that's not good.
	But that's all I have.
	But the other side I've not really looked upon I don't think you're missing anything.
	Where do I really see this mass influence from him, to be honest?
	Is it there?
	Is it really there?
	Or am I just missing something?
	It probably is there for young men.
	Probably, yeah.
	Okay. No, I think that there is one, but what has happened is that within schools, teachers have sort of portrayed him as the devil.
	Right. And this makes lots of men, young men especially, and lots of people in schools channel their rebelliousness towards accepting the devil.
	Ah, okay.
	Because teacher told me not to.
	And there is also the whole culture that tries to feminize men to a ridiculous extent.
	And the pendulum swings way to the other side.
	Sigilstone says, I disagree.
	They are getting the skilled migrant labor.
	This is the extent of the skills and why they are being useful to the state.
	Fair point.
	George says the state may be promoting Islam to create ethnic conflict and make normies easier to control that or they are ideologically possessed loons who place Islam higher on the oppression pyramid than any other religion.
	So it's a combination of both of these things.
	The thing is I think the one thing we need to remember is that the people doing this are true believers in liberalism.
	So I had an Afghan taxi driver the other day and I was trying to we ended up talking about politics somehow.
	He brought up politics.
	And so I was like, yeah, yeah, no, no.
	I was against the invasion of Afghanistan.
	And he was like, well, that's why I've come here, because you've ruined my country.
	I'm like, okay, fair enough.
	And he kind of accepted that the mass of people coming here was ruining ours.
	And this was his argument.
	And I was like, okay, yeah, fair enough.
	I think that's true.
	But he wouldn't believe me when I told him that they genuinely believe in democracy.
	And they went over there genuinely to nation-build.
	Because a lot of them did.
	He was like, well, it's about the resources.
	And it's like, well, what resources do you have?
	He didn't believe that they genuinely thought that all people were the same, and that all cultures were the same, and that essentially you could build a liberal democracy out of anything.
	Because that sounds stupid.
	When you say it like that, it sounds just really ridiculous.
	And yet, I genuinely think that Keir Starmer thinks that.
	I genuinely think that they believe that this is the political panacea that resolves all civilizational conflicts.
	Do you think this is going back to this kind of ideology of the church, the Church of England, when it was like proselytizing across the globe in the 15th, 16th century, where it thought it could turn any native into a Catholic and ignore what they did.
	So if we didn't like them, we just killed them, butchered them, and burnt what was going on.
	So we've gone out there to Afghanistan and blown it all up.
	But eventually they'll convert to a liberal democracy and have no ramifications.
	I think it's even more complex than that because religious feeling and religious belief is just an internal issue.
	That's mostly what it is.
	Obviously, there's the ritualistic aspect, but the ritualistic aspect is an aspect of buying, of adopting a culture and practicing it.
	But the religious culture and the whole, let's say, English culture or Scottish culture are just macro cultures, whereas the religious one is a more particular one, multicultural.
	I think there's also a kind of element of power-seeking in it, right?
	Because I think they look at it as if we are the...
	The connection to power that the Muslims have, they can't abandon us.
	So we'll always have a reliable constituency in them.
	I think there's also an element of that as well, in addition to what you suggested.
	Jimbo says, look how much Hamza hates anyone that doesn't bend the knee to his tribe.
	It's a disgrace that he was the leader of a Western country.
	Yeah, it's just insufferable.
	I just, I'm so tired of like, just, like, do you see the thing that two MPs have been banned from entering Israel or something?
	They're both foreigners.
	They're both immigrants.
	It's like, why do we have immigrant MPs?
	I don't mean to sound too rude, but isn't that a concern?
	Aren't we worried that if foreign people can just move here and take over, what stops the Chinese Communist Party just saying, right, okay, we're going to send 20 million people to Britain, get elected in any constituency we want, and then we'll have a CCP-controlled Britain?
	What stops it?
	The answer is at the moment, nothing.
	It's funny you say that.
	I spoke to someone who's a kind of non...
	Non-commissioned security analyst for the UK who's saying that the fact that we've got one of the largest rising groups of people coming over here, the Chinese, is exactly that and we should be worried about the Hong Kong.
	It's because many of them have got an opportunity to have 750,000 of them come over here.
	And at the moment we see them banding around in certain constituencies.
	Warrington, for example, has become one of the biggest areas.
	Now I'm not going to go out and say all the...
	These Hong Kong people are chills to the Chinese.
	Not at all.
	That's the point.
	The point is that some people are beginning to start getting concerned about this mass in certain areas.
	There needs to be some sort of hard boundaries.
	I mean, what are two Labour MPs doing going to Israel when they've both got, obviously, the social media history saying, we hate Israel?
	It's actually completely understandable that Israel are like, you guys hate us, we're not letting you in.
	I actually do support Israel to piss off, you know.
	I bet they've got lots of stuff on their Twitter feeds about hating Britain as well.
	I wish we could do the same.
	Anyway, NorthFCZoomer says, the legal system is supposed to be a projection of the moral will of the people it governs.
	It's just another reason diversity is a weakness because the people have no form of united morality.
	That's actually a great point.
	One thing that midwits say is, oh, well, the laws, it's not necessarily morality, is it?
	It's like, well, if laws have no connection to morality, why do we not have worse laws or better laws?
	We have laws that we think are connected to right and wrong, which are moral questions.
	Anyway, Ken says, if foreigners are just as British as you, then Islamists are just as Christian as you and me.
	It's like, well, that's the point, ultimate, is they want to homogenize everything into a universal human type.
	And so all religions will basically fit the same mold.
	All people basically fit the same mold.
	All culture will basically be the same.
	And then the managerial liberal state can actually finally administer the universe exactly as it intends, which is kind of a horrific future, isn't it?
	This is incredibly scary.
	I'd love to have V for Vendetta back on that.
	Sorry, Richard, I can't actually pass your comment.
	Lots of Babylon cordoned off every...
	Do you mean police?
	Sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about there.
	David says, the use of revert makes sense when you understand the Arabic term Muslim means true believer in Arabic.
	When you call someone Muslim, you're calling them a true believer.
	They believe you're born a true believer, and so to them it makes sense to have reverts, not converts.
	Your own Reverend Calvin Robinson understands this, which is why we shouldn't call them Muslims.
	This comes across as an affirmation of their belief.
	Call them Mohammedians, as they are the followers of Mohammed.
	They are not true believers.
	Well, that's actually quite a spicy take.
	There's actually a fair point on that.
	Al says, England is now...
	England is Islamic now section.
	My God, man.
	Like, we need to get you guys to pass your comments better because I can't understand what you're saying.
	Stuart says, there should be a lot of MEPs sweating bullets right now because the EU has just told them they will be next.
	That's the thing, isn't it?
	The Le Pen thing.
	They're not going to be next.
	No. They're leaders of a far-right party.
	They're only going to pick out those that they can think that they can damage.
	And my view is now that they've got their eyes on Hungary.
	With this case, they will be looking at the MEPs who are within Marie Le Pen's group and also those who are connected to Hungary to find something similar to attack them.
	They've taken down Romania.
	They've taken down France.
	I think they've also done the same.
	They're trying to do the same in Portugal at the moment.
	And we saw one of the great leaders was...
	Kutz, who is in Austria, really challenging, very radical, much more than Bardella was.
	They decapitated him incredibly quickly.
	He's just disappeared totally from politics.
	The point being, if you were a right-wing politician in Europe, the law is against you and be aware of it.
	Give them an opportunity.
	Jimbo says, the BBC has been doing everything to promote the Islamic takeover this month.
	Celebrating a contestant on gladiators wearing a hijab.
	You can see what I mean.
	It's just absolutely everywhere.
	They've already decided what's best for us.
	We just have to continually be nudged in the right direction.
	And that's the point.
	That's what they're trying to do.
	I can't take it, man.
	6.5% of the population may have to hear about them all day every day from the government and the BBC.
	Eloise says, "The problem is we've always had feuding tribes and religions, so frameworked diversity and multiculturalism to accommodate for heathenism, atheism, polytheism, Christianity, Catholicism, etc.
	It was always understood that they had certain principles in common, now completely foreign religions, which correlate more highly to harms and oppressions.
	Our culture can't be questioned and get defended under the same principles of be accommodating." Yes, obviously, but the issue is why are the government choosing this outside religion to essentially project to the rest of the country?
	I mean, it's not orthodox Christianity.
	They view that as essentially a white religion.
	That's really an interesting issue that people are evading, and it's just history that they're ignoring, because within Christianity, the Protestants and the Catholics were slaying each other for, what, 135 years?
	So you don't have to go to further cultures which have additional problems when it comes to coexisting.
	Within Christianity, there was a massive slaughter for us.
	Yeah. But they don't care.
	Because, again, they're viewing this through the leftist lens of majorities and minorities.
	So the Christians they view as a majority, the Muslims they aren't.
	...as a minority, and also they have extra axes of oppression.
	I mean, Kevin points out, well, you can't be racist against Islam.
	It's like, yeah, but in the leftist mind, you can be racist against Islam.
	Because for them, Islam codes as a brown religion.
	And so it's a kind of ethno-cultural religion.
	So any...
	Criticism of Islam is fundamentally in some way racist.
	And the fact that Islam exists as a minority religion in the UK itself is a form of racism.
	It's a double racism.
	Exactly. An undefined racist term.
	But he also thinks that the numbers converting to Islam in the UK have been growing rapidly.
	Well, with these kind of incentives, why wouldn't there be?
	Again, and Colin, the risk of penitentiary, why do you keep using racism to offend Islam and its religion?
	Because it's not really a religion.
	It's really the political system of a certain culture, which is 7th century Arabia.
	I don't consider Islam actually very religious at all.
	It seems to be designed to capture and wield power.
	It just seems to be the case.
	Lucas says, never mind whether the ruling was just or not.
	I don't think the punishment is severe enough for defrauding millions of euros.
	Yeah, yeah, I agree.
	I agree.
	They're doing it just to prevent her from running.
	Optional Scott earlier says, I can't wait for you to cover Glasgow, because obviously he's in Glasgow.
	And he says, I'm in the process of moving out of Glasgow.
	One of the really surprising things is that half the house viewers I had come in were Indians that only had arrived in the last month.
	Well, there you go.
	And if they're arriving in the last month, they're either coming through as students or they're coming on the work permit visas because that's the biggest route for Indians.
	But what you do find in some of the research that I'm looking at at the moment is showing how many of those actually renege on those visas as soon as they get them.
	And this is just an aside.
	As I was doing this research about what they call displacement policy.
	When I looked on the statistics for the Home Office, the asylum displacement figures, I punched in Glasgow for 2014 to 2023, which is suddenly stopped on the 25th of July.
	But it only had, under the government's displacement problems, the vulnerable persons of 528 people displaced to Scotland.
	I've immediately written to the Home Office this morning saying, can you explain the discrepancy where you have...
	Glasgow's saying they've got 6,400 this year.
	Can I have all the numbers going back to 2014?
	And which date are you showing this?
	And I think there's a gap.
	I think they're trying to hide where these numbers and who they are going to which local authorities all over the country.
	And even then, they're kind of assuming that the people will just stay in that area.
	What if they don't?
	Well, as we can see from Glasgow, they're not.
	Exactly. We know exactly that they're not.
	So... Everything about this is just like it's designed to fail at every level, isn't it?
	But Baron Von Warhawk says, the new Scottish, new Irish, new Welsh, why do we need new Celts?
	What was wrong with the old Celts?
	Well, don't get me started, but the point being, even with all of their problems, they deserve what they have.
	Josh says, it's just going to have to be Eric Zamoor, who happens to be my third cousin's husband's aunt's cousin's second cousin's husband's once removed.
	I don't believe that.
	What's interesting, North FC Zuma says Scotland is so woke because they're still majority Scottish by like 90% or something like that.
	And that's probably true.
	And the reason that the Liberal Democrats have got anything in the UK is because the South West is mostly still English.
	This changes as the diversity spreads across the country.
	Orland says, the demographics in the last census in Dalton in Furness, where the mosque is being built, makes the story even more egregious.
	11 Muslims to 4,221 Christians.
	Even the Buddhists outnumber the Muslims.
	It's insane.
	It is insane.
	And I look at Scotland and I do wonder whether this kind of wokeness and this idea for supporting migrants is just a way of attacking Britain.
	I think it is.
	I think they're using that kind of smoke screen to be able to damage.
	They look at the difference between us and the nasty nation and we should separate.
	Something I particularly dislike is during Christmas when they say you shouldn't say Merry Christmas, you should say Happy Holidays.
	Why would I do that?
	But they do say it, especially in business environments.
	I make it absolutely clear it's Happy Christmas, not Merry Christmas.
	I know there's an argumentative...
	Why is it Happy Christmas?
	Well, apparently Happy Christmas is supposed to be part of the original.
	Oh, is it?
	Merry Christmas was something that was created in relation to marketing tools.
	Ah, right.
	That's what I was told.
	They don't want the Christmas in.
	That's why they say...
	No, I know they don't want Christmas in.
	Because they don't want to mention the word Christ.
	And once again, disenfranchised our historical religious...
	I think all of it is based around resisting the majority culture in order to make sure that there is what they consider to be a kind of equality in the country.
	Because obviously, if 90% of the country is not Muslim, then the 6% of the country that is Muslim is going to kind of be culturally subsumed by the vast majority.
	It's like, yeah, but that's how things ought to be.
	Sorry? No, instead we're going to make them the kind of the north star of our cultural life, are we?
	That's crazy.
	And going to create a huge amount of resentment.
	I don't know what they think they're doing, frankly.
	Rex says, I got a shout out on Viva Fry's show last night for the bass takes on tariffs.
	Did I have a bass take on tariffs?
	I can't remember what my takes on tariffs were.
	Is it yours or is it Dan's?
	It might have been Dan's.
	Dan is very pro-tariff.
	I'm not...
	You're not so pro-tariff.
	But it's okay.
	He got a shout out.
	Why are you not pro-tariff?
	I'm not necessarily pro-tariff.
	Just not for it.
	It's a huge discussion.
	Okay. We won't get into it then.
	We won't get into it.
	Caroline sends a link which is with the note It's bad when the government are pushing Islam but I find it worse than the schools pushing it on children like at my daughter's school.
	Oh god, I'm going to hate this link, aren't I?
	Let me load this up and have a look.
	Oh god, yeah.
	So, yeah, it's it's woke Islam.
	They've got essentially just her daughter's school.
	It's just woke Islam.
	I'm not going to go any further than that on it but like It's insufferable.
	Absolutely insufferable.
	Kevin says, Andrew Tate is bad because he's a misogynist who abuses and mistreats women.
	The average mosque imam good, even though he promotes misogyny and mistreatment of women.
	And Andrew Tate is a Muslim himself as well.
	But Chase says, isn't the new Scots a tacit admission of intentional replacement?
	Well, yeah.
	That's what we've been saying.
	And that's exactly the point they've been making.
	Scotland's losing its population.
	We need new Scots to replace them.
	Don't call it a replacement.
	That's right, just call them New Scots.
	Yep. Don't change the name from Scotland to Islamland.
	Yeah, and this is another thing that, like, the whole, if you think of the whole framing of the entire discussion drives me mad.
	And you can tell that this has come from America because of the way that it's been done.
	Because, of course, the Americans are named after the landmass America.
	Some Italian explorer called Amaringo or something discovered it, called it America, and then people moved there and called themselves Americans.
	Well, that's the opposite of how it happened in the old world, actually.
	The Anglo-Saxon tribes moved to Britain and we called it England.
	The land is named after the people, not the people after the land.
	So you can't just bring in immigrants to Scotland and say, well, these are Scots.
	No, that's not how it works.
	The land is named after the people, not the people after the land.
	So these new people who come in are just foreigners.
	They're not Scottish, because the Scots...
	Gave their name to the place.
	And that's how that works over here in the old world, and that's how it's always worked.
	And that's not how it works in the new world, and that's how you can see that this is a new world import.
	Not good.
	Anyway, that's all from us for today, so thank you very much for joining us, folks.
	We'll be back same time tomorrow.

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