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Feb. 10, 2025 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters
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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1097
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Good afternoon folks.
Welcome to the podcast of the Lotus Eaters for Monday, the 10th of February, 2025. I'm joined by Stelios and some kind of flu that is currently possessing me, like some kind of evil demon.
So if I sneeze or sound very nasal or something, it's because I'm not well.
Anyway, today we are going to be talking about the rising mega movement to make Europe great again, how chicken nuggets block deportations, and various other things that...
It's just going to make me angry.
I've been trying to think about it.
And how February is off to a crazy start.
So, let's begin.
Let me just say that anger may help you with your immune system.
It's not going to help my blood pressure, though.
Sorry, go on.
Definitely not.
Right, so I'm an optimistic person, and although right now there is basically zero reason to be, almost zero reason to be optimistic about continental Europe, I'm still optimistic.
And I think that one of the good reasons to think about in a positive way is the rising mega movement.
And people from all over the world are talking about how there is going to be a shift from mega to mega as well.
And I'll be very frank and honest.
I don't know exactly what this means yet, but I do want to find out.
And I want to say that, okay, it's a good slogan, but we need to dig a bit deeper to see what the policies are.
Just as a quick thing, there's literally only one answer, and that's debureaucratization of the European continent.
Yes, exactly.
It's got to be less European Union.
Yes.
And a different direction.
Yeah, absolutely.
Exactly.
And as I will say, the Greek person who spoke at the convention, Aphrodite Latinopoulos, she mentioned precisely the distinction between leaders and bureaucrats.
And the EU is completely...
Run by unelected bureaucrats.
They're kidding.
Water is wet.
Breaking news.
Right.
But we were saying last week that the more we see can-do government, the more we see politicians who actually care about their people, the more there is pressure against those who are representing can-do government.
And those who are using the media apparatus and the mainstream establishment in order to create a very narrow image of political possibility that says that basically the traditional role of government in promoting the interests of the people it is supposed to represent is an impossibility.
Turns out it is not, and it's not rocket science.
And we see here Argentina's President Javier Mille is forming an alliance with President Trump, Italian Prime Minister Giorgio Meloni, Hungary Prime Minister Viktor Orban, and others.
Right, so Elon is also talking from MAGA to MEGA. He's talking about the shift from Make America Great Again to Make Europe Great Again.
Of course, there are several distinct interests here.
Let's not be fools.
The US interests and European interests aren't always converging, but there is enough room for win-win, I think, and this is the best way to think about it if we care about what we call, generally speaking, Western identity that mostly encompasses Europe and the US. There needs to be a kind of win-win agreement.
Obviously, there is going to be competition.
Competition is healthy.
Competition is healthy, and it's good if it is channeled that way.
If there isn't so much a convergence or an alliance between US and Europe, then a lot of really powerful players will try to swing one against the other, and that's not going to be good for the Western world.
Right.
So, we had that conference in Madrid, and one of the main slogans was, we are the future.
Because the governments that are right now governing Europe are wrecking it because they're promoting the EU agenda.
But someone was really afraid of that summit, that conference.
And we see here we have Google and we type Make Europe Great Again conference and we see the kind of...
Headlines we had.
Trump-style victory.
The aim for Europe's far-right as leaders.
Praise US President at Madrid Conference.
So the USAID-funded media is not happy with this.
No, it's not happy.
We have here Politico.
EU looking at Trump.
Europe's far-right vows to reconquer the continent.
Good.
That sounds kind of based.
Yeah, it sounds great.
Doesn't it?
Yeah.
I'm all for it.
Make Europe Great Again.
Far-right European political leaders praise Trump at Madrid meeting.
That's from LBC. Harry's favorite podcast, isn't it?
Oh yeah, absolutely.
He's allowed to have a favorite.
And I think James O'Brien is his favorite voice right there.
Okay, New York Times.
Far-right leaders rally in Spain to make Europe great again.
Again, EU civil war as pro-Trump leaders discuss plans to make Europe great again.
Belga News Agency.
I think that's from Belgium.
EU radical right feels empowered by Trump.
We are the future.
NPR, Europe's far-right leaders applaud Trump and downplay threat of possible U.S. tariffs.
I have a particular dislike for this one.
First of all, I'm not a fan of tariffs, but it's okay.
It's understandable.
It's one way of exercising political force.
I despise the urgency it tries to create against the tariffs as if that's the only problem Europe is facing.
Yeah.
And this is what actually makes me very annoyed and makes a lot of people annoyed because it's basically beyond reasonable doubt that the mainstream media is actively trying to create an image that is completely mistaken and it tries to tell people that, well, decline is the only possible future for you.
And anything else is far right.
Sorry, I don't want to decline.
You're completely on the money there.
And what I like, though, is they kind of identify themselves as a cohesive political bloc when they all move in the same direction at the same time, right?
So when you've got the right-wing European leaders elected or...
Waiting in the wings.
If they move in one direction and all of the media moves in the other direction, it creates a nice cleavage between them.
So you can see, you know, this is the woke forces of managerial decline versus the insurgent forces of something else that just could be better than becoming poorer and less free and less interesting.
With less of a future.
So it's actually, I think, really good.
It is.
And actually, I find out that I'm a bit more optimistic than I was five minutes ago when I framed the segment as starting with pessimism.
Because I think that if the mainstream media keeps doing what it's doing, things are going to go well because they've lost all credibility.
People are at the point where everything mainstream media says, they believe the exact opposite.
At least more and more people.
It's not even a question of credibility.
It's a question of loyalty.
The media, the outlets you were just showing us, they're obviously against the success of the European people in general, broadly speaking.
And so when you've got, I mean, that's a great lineup there.
You can see Wilders and various others on the stage.
You can see that this is genuinely drawing two camps that are going to be essentially democratically at war with one another.
And, well, let's hope our guys win.
But that is the main issue here because these people are thriving, electorically speaking.
Their percentages are rising because they represent the concerns of everyday people.
And there is a segment of everyday people who are not falling for the mainstream narrative.
Anymore, any longer, and they support them.
And the more the mainstream media continues their narrative and continues to react with the same predictable and false way in every tragedy that happens on a daily basis, that number of people rises.
I'm not even sure if I'd frame it as false, to be honest.
From their perspective, this is the far right because they are so far to the left.
Yeah, I mean, these people are far right because they're not centre-right conservative losers who are prepared to go along with the managed decline just slightly more reluctantly than the average leftist.
It's like, yeah, no, these people represent a different paradigm.
Something new is coming.
And the old guard, though very well funded by the US government, and God knows how much money the EU and British government and whoever else gives to these organisations.
Well, they're going to...
Claw and fight and screech and kick and do everything they can to stop it.
But let's be fair, if it's a light at the end of the tunnel or no light at the end of the tunnel, why would I choose your one?
Exactly.
That's why I'm interested in the light at the end of the tunnel.
And speaking of funding, there are ongoing investigations about funding of the EU by Qatar and lots of the NGOs that are basically working to undermine European interests.
And the European interests of every single member state of the European Union.
And also there are obviously investigations about the role the USAID played into funding those NGOs.
And I think a lot of people found out that some of the funding that was tied to the name of George Soros wasn't actually from his own money.
Really?
Yes.
He was being charitable with other people's money.
Oh, wow.
And USAID was involved in it as well.
Right.
So here we have Millet sending a message to the Make Europe Great Again Madrid Summit and he's saying long live freedom.
Here we have the chainsaw freedom.
He has spoken again about Europe and he says basically that things are so bad that if you talk about the impact of mass migration in Europe, you're immediately grounded as a mid-century German.
Yeah, mid-century.
That's correct.
He's absolutely correct.
Obviously.
Yes, that's true.
We also had the leader of the opposition in Venezuela, Maria Corina Machado, sending her message.
I really hope she's well and she doesn't suffer any...
She doesn't disappear because they're a communist government and they'll disappear.
Yeah, but it's good that there is a sentiment from both continents in favour of a strong Europe because what's the alternative?
A very split West.
No, the alternative is the general comprehensive victory of socialism over everything.
So, I mean, like, you know, you don't have to have any particular love for any particular country to be like, well, I'd rather them not fall victim to the communists.
Like, I don't care about Latvia, but I don't want them to be taken over by communists.
Are you sure that a Venezuelan person requires to anti-communism?
Are you sure?
A lot of Venezuelans are for communism because they're employed by the government.
But I'm not even joking.
Yeah, obviously not her.
Yeah, yeah, obviously not her.
So we had several, we had a really strong lineup.
Here is Gert Wilders from Netherlands.
And he basically said that we are gaining majorities, more and more people vote for us.
And he said that the woke left represents an extremist agenda.
I really like the framing.
He says, we refuse to surrender to the guilt-ripping of the multiculturalists.
That's all it takes.
Exactly.
And that's a very strong way of putting it, because I think that multiculturalism, especially an abstract form of it, is literally destroying Europe.
Multiculturalism is one of those words where people are saying right now, in our circles, we're supposed to go boo.
And that's, to a very large extent, correct.
But the issue is that...
You can have Europeans living together but there are some other people who have vastly different hierarchies of value and there are so many discontinuities between the main values that inform a country's institutions and host populations that create actually pressures for ghettos.
I think it goes further than this though because there's something about...
Like, okay, so a bunch of Europeans come over and live in Britain or something.
They don't expect Britain to be run for them, right?
And that's fine, because they have countries of their own.
But for some reason, when it's non-Europeans moving to Britain, the British government acts like they don't have countries of their own.
And like, these people can't go home and arrive in a country that is majority of the same ethnic group or the same nationality and run in the interests of those people, right?
So we act as if essentially every Pakistani in Britain is a refugee from Pakistan.
And if we don't give them everything that they want, then the world comes to an end and they live in a terrible state of oppression or something.
It's like, no, they can just go home.
They have countries of their own.
They can just go home if they don't like the way that we run the country.
And that's just the attitude that we should take.
Exactly.
And one of the reasons why I think it is very important to pay close attention to what these leaders are saying is because there are considerable pressures to frame this debate as if you don't agree with the current paradigm of open borders, multicultural, abstract multiculturalism, endless funds for the families of just everyone else in the world.
If you don't agree with communist redistribution of wealth from the rich West to everyone else, you somehow have to go back to, let's say, mid-century Germany.
And that's simply not the case.
Just because the left is constantly bombarding people with that message, it doesn't mean that the message is correct.
You can be patriotic without going that way.
Like, one of the difficult things that is going to have to be addressed, frankly, is the concept of collective ownership.
This is a real thing that lives in people's minds, and the woke left have been trying to destroy this.
And sorry, like, for example, Ireland, the Republic of Ireland is the property of the Irish people.
It's collectively owned by them.
If they don't want to have, you know, a million foreigners come in a year like we've had...
Then they are actually within their rights to elect a government that won't do that.
Exactly.
Greece is the collective property of the Greek people.
Sorry, these are real things, but the abstract liberal mind can't comprehend of such a thing because it only interpolates people as individuals.
It's like, okay, but that's not true.
People are part of groups and actually groups have some claims.
I'm sorry.
It's just the way things are and the way things have always been.
And if that's not true, why is it a problem if Donald Trump buys Palestine?
Why is it a problem?
You know it's true.
You know it's true.
You're goddamn lies.
Sorry, Karen.
Speaking of Trump, we had Marine Le Pen praising Donald Trump, and she says, Hurricane Trump is sweeping across the U.S., which has been engulfed in unbearable political correctness for too long.
Everyone understands that something has changed.
And I think that this is very correct.
And she also says the influence of Europe is not a historical accident, but the logical blossoming whenever cultural diversity can express itself freely.
And this is what I wanted to say before, is that diversity again is one of those words where we kind of have to go boo.
And it's understandable because we constantly hear diversity is a strength and it isn't.
It's not that kind of diversity.
But we need to bear in mind that the diversity that is supposed to be a strength, which it isn't, is top-down enforced.
And if it was such a strength, we wouldn't need that propaganda.
A plurality of independent, sovereign nations is a fine thing to have.
And everyone's for it.
I think that the French should have their own country, the Germans should have their own country, the Swiss should have their own country.
Everyone agrees with that.
And when that is, because essentially, and I hate to use phrases like this, but that's essentially the natural order of things.
Almost every revolution in history prior to 1776 was a national revolution against imperial power.
So this is just the normal way that all people have always framed things for all of time until right now when we've decided that actually this no longer obtains and actually people aren't entitled to what we would call a homeland.
That's not true.
That's not true.
Exactly.
And all this happened goes straight back to the mainstream narrative that if you are in favor of your nation in any shape or form, you have to have ties and draw inspiration from mid-century Germany, which again is absolutely preposterous because the people who fought, let's say, the Germans in the mid-century weren't exactly rainbow brigades.
They wanted to save their country and their nation.
This thing, everyone who opposed...
Apart from maybe the Soviet Union.
Everyone who opposed the national socialists in Germany were basically nationalists.
Every Western country took their own national interests seriously.
Here we have Viktor Orban again speaking about our friend Trump.
The Trump tornado has changed the world in just a couple of weeks.
An era has ended.
Today everyone sees that we are the future.
I really hope he is correct.
Very optimistic.
He is optimistic, but there are reasons to be optimistic here.
I agree.
It seems to me that Trump essentially is able to cast the ring into the fire.
Yes.
But there are also small pockets of the Khazad-dûm mountain on a daily basis and people must constantly cast the ring into the fire.
But it's a strong start.
And the scandal with USAID and the kind of involvement it was...
It demonstrably had.
I mean, it's showing us behind the curtain, isn't it?
It shows how, actually, all this is enforced on a top-down manner.
And if it was organic, it wouldn't require any such imposition.
That's why.
So I think when you mention the word, the natural order of things, I think that that's correct, essentially.
And that's what organically comes about.
And it doesn't necessarily destroy the world.
It doesn't destroy anything.
It builds things that are very nice.
It builds, you know, countries that are broadly homogenous and happy with what they are.
It's the foundation of our ability to root out corruption.
It's the foundation of our ability to be happy, is to know that the people around us are in some way predictable, right?
They're in some way like us, and so we understand what they're thinking in broad terms and why they do the things that they do.
Whereas at the moment, we've got a...
An insane plurality of cultures in this country.
And no one can explain why there's a guy with a knife in Dublin slashing people's throats.
Why is he...
Oh, oh, oh.
No, he's someone from Brazil.
Like, what is...
No, you can't explain these things because you have no idea what these people think.
They're not predictable.
You can't feel safe.
The entire nature of the country changes when you're in this kind of psychic landscape.
And speaking of Ireland and the stabbings that you mentioned...
There was a completely predictable reaction to that.
And the politicians went out and instantly started talking about the far-right narrative and how all this can be utilized in a far-right narrative.
We've got to save the Brazilians.
There's only 200 million of them.
There are only 6 million Irishmen.
Like, come on.
Anyway, sorry.
There's no reason to.
It's insufferable.
There's no reason to.
The Brazilians have their own country.
If they don't like the way you're running your country.
And speaking of Brazil, they do have their own country.
It's run by communists.
And just a really small parenthesis.
Lula was saying, people, we have food shortages and inflation.
Don't buy expensive food, which is the most moronic thing.
So don't buy expensive food.
All of you should go and buy cheap food so the price of cheap food goes up or we have a food shortage.
It is this kind of...
Mentality that people in this conference want to go against.
Here we have Latina Poulou from Greece.
She is the leader of the Voice of Reason party.
That's a nice name, by the way.
That's a great name.
I'm a good rationalist as myself.
That's a really good name.
And she was saying basically that Greece faces demographic extinction.
And she says that she's talking about the whole problems that afflict Europe and how the demographic problem is used by mainstream media and by the unelected bureaucrats of the EU as a sort of...
The only way to solve, as in solely economic issue, which can only be solved by mass migration, which is obviously not true.
Mass migration doesn't cause the natives of a country to have kids.
It doesn't solve the issue.
What it solves is the institutional problem.
How do we pay pensions?
Theoretically.
And it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, because if you're saying the only way to...
Solve my economic problems and increase my GDP is by having an influx of people, then a lot of the natives can't find work because the wages are artificially placed down.
And yeah, sorry, no, you can't have a family like that because you have less of a real wage, an even nominal wage.
The thing that we just can't admit is that the promises made in the 20th century are unsustainable.
That's the thing we're having trouble admitting, but that's the truth of it.
Exactly.
So here we have Matteo Salvini from Italy.
He says, Europe is experiencing a deep crisis and we have the duty to join forces, work together and build a credible alternative to this failed Europe.
2025 will be the year of the Reconquista.
Here we have people speaking against Matteo Salvini.
Also Elon Musk from the Italian media saying that Elon and Mega are a threat to Europe.
They're a threat to our bureaucracy.
Yeah.
Probably, yeah.
Stop the sovereigntists from the European populace.
Mega is a risk challenge between Lega and FDL. At least they're taking them seriously.
Yeah, I mean, they cannot but take them seriously.
Well, that's the thing, isn't it?
There's a specter haunting Europe.
Exactly.
And again, there is this...
This completely ridiculous angle in mainstream media that suggests that the only threat to Europe is Elon talking about things.
All of the great powers recognize Mega as an entity.
The great power that haunts Europe is Elon's ex.
You have Kanye tweeting about things.
I'm going to rewrite the Communist Manifesto in Mega.
Yeah.
And there are several...
I would say, I mean...
It's not rocket science.
No, it's actually really easy.
It's really easy.
It's very simple.
Europe requires several really commonsensical policies to be solved.
It needs to refocus on identity.
It needs to slash bureaucracy, slash funding for...
It's just Austrian economics.
For foreigners who come and don't work and literally...
Burden the native population.
Well-established, well-traveled, well-proven economic theories.
That's it.
Exactly.
Yeah, it's not rocket science.
It's not new.
It's not difficult to understand.
Exactly.
And also deport people who don't belong to places.
Really crazy.
Yeah, crazy.
Just rocket science.
And it was considered rocket science up until Donald Trump did it.
Yeah, well, it was considered impossible.
Utopian thinking.
Yeah, so I mean...
Without borders, there's no country.
Without borders, there's no country.
Lock up criminals.
It's that simple.
Exactly, yes.
And it's really important to stress that the demographic problem is not merely an economic problem.
It's a national problem.
And if you want to save the family of the nation...
Well, you need to actually provide the economic conditions, among other things, for their family to survive.
In Greece, for instance, it's mostly economic.
People are very family-oriented.
They would have family if they were able to.
There are the same pressures, like with some forms of feminism that go and tell women that the only way to be free and liberated is being a careerist man.
It doesn't work.
Trust me, that's not freedom.
I'm really optimistic and I want to see just more about the mega movement.
It's in its infancy right now.
There can be all sorts of voices that say all sorts of things that can be frequently conflicting with each other, but one person has to hope and we have to be optimistic.
Honestly, I'm optimistic about it.
Well, there's no reason not to be.
The Cranky Texan says, "Europeans can live in England without issue because their culture is founded on Christian values and more, mores.
People from alien lands arrive with values and mores.
That's actually not true in a kind of sense.
As in, there are lots of problems with Europeans coming to Britain.
I mean, like, Eastern Europeans are often kind of dishonest, right?
And I don't mean to...
We mean to Eastern Europeans.
There are lots of Eastern Europeans I know, but there's a kind of honesty and understanding that one shouldn't take advantage of the system, which doesn't exist in the Eastern European mind.
And so they cause problems too.
You know, the Romanian gangs and stuff like that.
I really think it depends on the country.
Well, it does.
That's the thing.
That's the point I'm making.
Just being Christian is not enough.
Although it does definitely mean there's less terrorism from these people.
So don't get me wrong, that is a good base start.
But it's not that simple as just saying, oh, they're Christians.
Like the Brazilian guy who slashed a bunch of throats in Ireland.
He's going to be a Christian.
It's not that simple.
I think some countries, especially, for instance, Estonia, Poland, Czech Republic, they have really good things going for them.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I'm not trying to be dismissive or mean or anything like that.
It's just these things really do happen.
Like the Albanians, I suppose they're not Christians.
Yeah.
No, I really think it depends with especially the countries of Eastern Europe that faced communism.
It's either...
It's really good.
They really go to the extremes.
They're either really anti-communist and they say, no, no, I will have to be honest with myself.
I can produce more than I can consume.
Or they just get what Machiavelli would say morally corrupted and they say, okay, that's the way the cookie crumbles.
That's all there is to life.
Just power.
And that is, you are exactly right.
It's a bi-country thing.
But again, just being Christian is not enough to guarantee that these people...
Anyway, I won't go off on it.
Yeah, I mean, so many gangsters in movies are Christians.
Yeah, but it's like...
Maybe it's fake.
No, I don't want to...
In reality, like...
It's okay.
For example, we've had loads of Polish builders and the quality of the buildings are terrible, right?
And that kind of implies they're not really doing the job as they're supposed to be doing it.
And what they've been doing is doing it as cheaply as possible to slough off as much money from that.
It's like, okay, that's great.
You know, thank you, fellow Christians.
But now our buildings are terrible.
I think you're correct, though.
And I think that this adds to the importance of the discussions we're having on multiculturalism because there's a very strong question and a very important question to be asked about the cultural continuities and discontinuities that make cultures compatible.
And Christianity may not be sufficient, but it is a strong...
It's strong pressure for...
I'm not saying it's not a good thing.
And, you know, there's no reason that we couldn't say, well, look, our immigrants have to come from Christian countries.
There's no reason at all that we couldn't say that.
If we're going to have any immigration, yeah, why wouldn't we be particular about these things?
Anyway.
Right.
So, Carl, I think there are three fundamental rights.
The right to life, the right to liberty, and the right to enjoy your favorite chicken nuggets.
Do you like my list?
I think it's uncontroversible.
How could you...
Stelios the Framer.
Yeah, how can you disagree?
Basic freedom, basically.
Yeah, the human right to chicken nuggets.
Not just chicken nuggets, the chicken nuggets of your choice.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And if you are not allowed to enjoy chicken nuggets, your human rights get violated and you're allowed to go ape.
We're such clowns.
I hate it so much.
Right, so...
We are going to talk about a very frustrating story.
It circulates the media and it is infuriating indeed.
But I also want us to practice your zen.
You need a candle now.
I do.
Practice your yoga meditation or something.
Honestly.
Yoga mattress.
Right, so this is infuriating and a lot of people are commenting about it at the moment as if it has...
Already happened and this person isn't going to be deported.
Details will soon follow.
But I think we should take a bit of a more distanced approach.
A more intelligent approach to this.
I'm just seeing red.
My rational faculties have switched off.
I just hate everything.
Right, so allow him to come.
What radicalized you?
The government and their bloody policy on chicken nuggets.
This is the actual reason why deportations are halting.
Chicken nuggets.
You can't get deported because you don't have the appropriate sauce.
For anyone who's just listening, right?
This is a current thing that's being summarized by Twitter.
An Albanian criminal, Klevis Disha, has been allowed to remain in the UK after an immigration tribunal, I want names, decided that deporting him would be, quote, unduly harsh on his 10-year-old son.
Due to the child's aversion to foreign chicken nuggets.
As if there's a substantive difference between the chicken nuggets we have here and the chicken nuggets they have in Albania or something.
Just...
It's English meat.
It's probably not even.
It's probably not even.
Not even.
I don't know.
I just...
Right.
Okay, so we're going to talk about this case because it's very interesting.
Right, so we have an independent article here.
A tribunal ruled it would be unduly harsh for the 10-year-old son to return to Albania owing to food sensitivities.
I'll tell you what, right, if I ever found out who the people in that tribunal were, I would definitely violate the communications regulations in this country.
Section 127 of the Communications Act.
Because I'd just be emailing them really offensive messages all the time.
But don't you understand them?
Because these chicken nuggets...
Well, I'm saying you should do that.
Don't find out who they are.
These chicken nuggets look delicious here.
Oh, yeah.
I'm sure they're great.
Right.
So what happened?
Let's give you some context.
So Clevis Disha, 39, entered the UK legally as an unaccompanied minor.
He later gave a fake name and falsely claimed to be born in the...
He was 39. How many years ago did he enter?
Well, he must...
He must have been born in 1985 or 1988. Did he end to like 25 years ago?
Maybe.
But he lied.
Of course he lied.
He lied about his identity.
Really?
I can't believe these illegal immigrants are upstanding and honest people.
And about where he was born.
He said he was born in Yugoslavia.
But he wasn't.
Anyway, he lied.
Right.
So he was stripped of his UK citizenship in 2029. So he was a citizen.
After serving two years in prison.
So four years later, he's still here for some reason.
Yeah.
Which, when he was caught with £300,000, known to be the proceeds of crime.
He was a drug dealer.
He sold £300,000.
He stole 300,000 pounds.
It was later determined that he should forfeit citizenship because it had been acquired through deception.
Yeah.
So he basically sold one, the onion of deception.
Yes.
And gave 300,000 pounds.
Yes.
Flog him, expel him.
Right.
Forever coming back.
And here is where, Carl, you're going to see red.
The background here is red.
So Baton Immigration Tribunal ruled it would be unduly harsh for his 10-year-old son, known as C in court documents, to return to Albania, with his father owing to food sensitivities, sensory issues and difficulties communicating emotions.
They think that them living in their own countries is just a form of punishment.
It's like, oh, they can't live like an Albanian, can they?
There are millions of them living there just fine.
And the reason why appeals to the ECHR are really infuriating here is because they are preventing individual justice and they are hindering individual punishment on the grounds of the unfairness of collective punishment.
Sorry, he can just explain to his son when he's in Albania.
Yeah, it turns out I'm just a scum criminal and don't take from my example, basically.
But also if you love your children and you...
You want them to have a better future.
Just stay out of crime.
Don't be a criminal.
Just a thought.
Don't commit crime.
Yeah, it's not a rocket science.
Literally from...
Well, have you seen the film Liar Liar?
It's just like, stop committing crimes, asshole!
That's like, just...
Right.
But, let's see here.
The only example that was listed in order to suggest that he has food sensitivities and food allergies and he can't be deported is that he...
Just doesn't like the chicken nuggets that are available abroad.
Like...
Someone with lots of kids, right?
I can tell you the kids will literally say, I don't like that, I don't like that.
Until it's literally in front of them and they'll start eating it.
Don't stir.
Like, kids don't even know a lot of the time.
The kid is loving it.
Yeah, I bet he is.
The young boy has no formal diagnosis, but they think he's got basically autism.
It's like, shut up, shut up.
This is just so obviously an excuse.
I mean, can you imagine...
Giving that excuse, it reminds me...
I wouldn't accept that excuse for my kids.
The whole system, though, accepts them.
Because, I mean, I'll just say, a very large number of people in the university when I was teaching just came up with letters and several diagnoses.
I have these diagnoses.
They have all sorts of reasons that prevent them from actually doing their homework and from showing up.
This kind of reminds me of like that.
Right, so Home Secretary Yvette Cooper appealed the judgment in August last year, arguing there was not enough evidence to show Disha's deportation would be unduly harsh on his son.
I don't care.
Why does all this carry on?
Why isn't there an end in this?
Why is this dragging?
Honestly, if it was me, I'd just have every foreign criminal flogged.
I mean, like, literally physically flogged, like 10 lashes.
And then we'll talk about whether people feel safe eating chicken nuggets in Albania.
You know, like, you get deported or you get flogged.
It's your choice.
So I think I'll get deported.
You're just going to have to endure the chicken nuggets, son.
Carl's principle is ask yourself what the Assyrians would do.
Yeah.
There's not enough pain in punishment anymore.
That's just what it comes down to.
Upper Tribunal Judge David Merrigan, who delivered the latest ruling on the case, agreed, referring the appeal back to a new judge for further review.
So basically, Yvette Cooper and Judge David Merrigan are saying that there isn't enough evidence to suggest that this person has sensitivity to food of chicken nuggets outside.
But why is there so much time and money?
Devoted to it.
This is going to be costing hundreds of thousands of pounds.
By the time this is done, it will probably cost us millions.
Yeah.
But also, what I want to say here is that this is completely preposterous.
It's just a preposterous story.
And just a complete abuse of human rights and a complete abuse of common sense and facts and logic.
I think that there is a possibility that this person will get deported.
And one of the reasons why they have this story is for people...
Check the quality of chicken nuggets in Albania.
...is for people to say that, look, he isn't going to get deported and actually present a tougher labor position in immigration.
And they are trying to do something like that because they're scared of the rise of popularity of reform.
And we have here several tweets.
Here we have from Politics UK, the government has arrested 609 illegal migrant workers this year, a 73% rise since January 2024, after raiding 828 businesses, including nail bars, car washes, and restaurants.
Why aren't barbershops mentioned?
I don't know, but I mean, we've got at least like 180,000 illegals we're putting in hotels.
So you think, okay, well, we've got those there.
That could be done in, you know, a month.
But also, we know there's at least one million illegal immigrants in the country.
There's going to be loads more.
It's going to be like three or four million.
And so, okay, we've arrested 609 in a month and a half.
It's like, oh God, who cares?
Who cares?
There's nothing.
It's going to affect nothing.
And also here, Keir Stama says, too many people are able to come to the UK to work illegally.
We're putting an end to it.
Well, good luck.
So what I wanted to say and the reason why I said...
I love Rupert Lowe's reply just at the bottom here.
There have been 4,390 enforced returns from your government since August with just 66 deportation charter flights all year in 2024. These are pathetic stats with 1 million plus illegal migrants in the country.
There should be a flight leaving every hour.
He's absolutely correct.
I can't wait until he's home secretary.
He's absolutely correct.
And the reason why I think they're doing it...
It's twofold.
First of all, obviously, they want to appear tough in order to say we're tougher than the rest, even though we are humane and the others are inhumane.
And it could be the case that they end up deporting that person, that Clevis Disha, with...
The chicken nuggets affair, but they allow sufficient amount of time for people to talk about this, and they end up saying, look at the far right, was talking about the chicken nuggets, he got deported, it was fake news.
Yeah, and the purpose of this is to, okay, so we've got like a bunch of headlines, and people will see the headlines and think, oh, something is being done about this, therefore I don't have to worry about it.
It's like, nope, there are still millions here, nothing really is being done, this is a symbolic, not even like, you know, it's a kind of show.
Exactly.
And that's unfortunate because a lot of people who follow news are still not woken up to the problems of mainstream media and they are going to see the headlines and they're not going to sit down and try to form a coherent idea of what is going on.
They are going to use this in order to essentially they're going to think that Labour is actually doing something on the issue.
But we shouldn't allow the Bigger picture to slip through our fingers.
And there is actually a really big picture here that is happening.
And they say that, for instance, the case revealed in court documents that there are 34,169 outstanding asylum appeals.
The number represents a fivefold increase in two years from the almost 6.4 thousand appeals outstanding at the same point in 2022. So they are allowing it.
Yep.
And whatever they say, they are allowing it.
Here is Rupert Lowe saying, we can't describe my disdain for the British establishment and what they've done to the country.
It's a total joke.
And he says, we need to get ruthlessly efficient with deportations.
If you come to a country and commit crime, you're gone.
End of story.
Yeah.
I think that's just...
I mean, it shouldn't need saying, but apparently only Rupert Lowe is prepared to say it.
Matt Goodwin says an Albanian criminal has been allowed to stay in the UK partly because his son will not eat foreign chicken nuggets.
The judge allowed the appeal against deportation under the ECHR. Right.
And there's a thing to be said here about the ECHR because even if they end up deporting that person with the chicken nuggets and they make the fuss and say, look at what the far right was saying about the chicken nuggets.
He got deported.
They're stupid.
The Article 8 that is appealed to in order to say that he shouldn't be deported because his son's right to family life would be violated is something that is routinely appealed to in all sorts of cases that aren't talked as we are talking about it right now.
And for instance, here it says Article 8 says right to respect for private and family life.
Everyone has the right to respect for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence.
There shall be no interference by public authority with the exercise of this right except such as is in accordance with the law and is necessary in accordance with democratic society in the interests of national security, public safety or the economic well-being of the country for the prevention of disorder of crime, for the protection of health public safety or the economic well-being of the country for the prevention of disorder of crime, for the protection of health That seems to completely justify deporting him.
It seems way more based than it is usually meant to be.
Like, oh yeah, we've got a criminal.
Well, he just has to go then.
So, like, that seems to be an adequate carve-out.
Yeah.
His son doesn't enjoy foreign chicken nuggets.
So, sorry, show me where it says there that his son has to enjoy succulent British chicken nuggets.
Exactly.
Like, no, get out!
Which suggests that it is actually the people who are entrusted with appealing to the ECHO who have the issue.
And let me just say, obviously, having a private and family life is not a positive right, unconditionally speaking.
If that were the case, there would be no imprisonment.
Well, if that were the case, there'd be state-funded girlfriends.
It's like, sorry, this guy can't get a wife.
What about his right to a family life?
He needs a woman.
Someone's going to have to literally marry him to make that positive right come about.
Yeah, and just like you said, Claude seems to be really commonsensical here, but it has been appealed to in a very weird way in order to...
Prevent pedophiles from getting deported.
Oh, that pedophile needs access to his children.
Or if you deport that pedophile, either his human rights are going to be abused in the country of origin, or the rights of his family are going to be abused because he isn't going to be there.
Which may be a good thing if he's a pedophile.
He literally nods the kid.
Yes, and we shouldn't forget that whatever Labour says right now...
Whatever they're saying about how tough they are and whether they end up deporting Clevis Disha or not and make a mockery out of the chicken nuggets situation.
We should never forget these headlines like foreign pedophile cannot be deported because it's unduly harsh on his family.
Migrant shambles as unnamed judge-led pedophile we cannot name.
Stay in the UK because...
Perverts, Pakistani family might disapprove of him lusting after barely pubescent girls.
Why are we protecting them from their own actions?
That's just from three days ago.
Why just?
Because that's the issue.
If the state is supposed to be a parent, well, it's supposed to protect them against everything.
Think of the human rights of the paedophiles, Stelios.
It's what the British judges can't stop.
We have another...
Infuriating headline here.
Afghan asylum seeker who attacked the Ukrainian woman with box cutter and likely to serve prison time due to mental illness.
What's the mental illness?
It's a condition that makes you attack Ukrainian women with box cutter.
What?
Sorry!
Shouldn't he be sectioned away then?
If he's a violent lunatic?
Oh, yeah, so he's got a mental illness, he keeps attacking people, so we just let him go.
What do you mean you let him go?
You've got a moral obligation not to let that guy go, don't you?
Yeah, and at the end of the day, it's just a game of numbers.
If you try to appear tough by deporting 40 people, but you're allowing 40,000 to just cross in the country, you're not that tough.
Actually, you're doing your country a disservice.
You are not protecting your people.
You are actually creating a very...
Bad situation for them.
And I think we should end this segment with Denmark's zero refugee policy, which drives down asylum admissions to record low.
Coming from a center-left government, it granted just 860 asylum requests in 2024, with immigration minister calling the figure historically low.
Good start.
I'm sure you can get that down to zero by the end of the year.
It's not a rocket science.
Yeah, yeah.
And XCO says, my rights to express my religion are being infringed by the anti-Christian left.
Can I deport the left?
More double standards.
OPH UK says, what about our human rights not to have to live with these people?
Yeah, that's a great question.
You know, that's a really great question.
And Sigil Stone says, with the guarantee of human rights of nuggies, Britain is about to experience a massive wave of autistic illegal immigration.
Well, guaranteed by the state.
I mean, what happens if his dad just doesn't have any money that day?
You know, the state swoop in and goes, right, okay, taxpayer-funded nuggets, you know, your human right to enjoy those nuggets has been infringed.
I mean, there's no end to this nonsense.
This is the logical conclusion of the mainstream narrative.
Yeah.
Because the reason why in some countries, for instance, they allow crime stats circulate due to ethnicity is because they want to drive the narrative that all crime is due to economic reasons.
Therefore, well...
Are some groups overrepresented in crime?
Yes, maybe.
But what's the solution?
Not deportations is actually taxing even more everyone else in order to give them economic benefit.
The only way that you can stop the grooming gags is by paying more tax.
Oh God, I hate the world.
Right, so February is off to a very weird start.
Just like January was, to be honest.
There's something about January and February that is particularly distasteful.
I don't know, it's fine, but like, I'm quite, I mean, this is the only thing that makes life worth living for me at this point when I'm dealing with politics, is I just don't know what's going to happen next.
I will say that one of the, politics is frequently very blackpeeling, but I actually like meltdowns.
Yeah, me too.
They're just funny.
Irrespective of what people say there, which I often disagree with.
There's something about a meltdown that is just hilarious.
Yeah.
Right, so, and speaking of meltdowns, the meltdown of February is, no doubt, Kanye, who is also known as Yee.
So far.
So far, yeah.
I mean, we're only 10 days into it, so who knows?
I really doubt there's going to be another meltdown in February, but I want to see it.
Actually, there is.
Who knows?
I'm not going to lie.
I would find it hilarious.
The thing is, it kind of drives me crazy that Kanye West has kind of just abandoned everything that he was saying, right?
Because if you think five years ago, no, five years ago, he was like a hyper-Christian dad, right?
He was making Christian gospel music.
He was constantly going on about porn being banned from Twitter, for example, right?
So whether you like Kanye West or not, he was at least trying to set a good example for his own kids.
But now, what the hell has happened to him to get him to this point where he's Parading his new wife around naked at the Grammys.
Posting porn on Twitter.
What the hell's happened to him?
I don't know, Carl.
Let's just see what happened.
Right, so we can't play this video because it's indecent and we're a family-friendly podcast.
But he went with his wife, Bianca Sensori, at the 2025 Grammys and she literally took her coat off and she wore basically nothing.
Yeah, she was going to be naked.
Yes, and he was sitting there.
Everyone was taking...
Pictures.
And he was saying basically that this is the baddest bee ever.
Okay.
How does this align with you being a good Christian man, Kanye?
Yes.
Why are you doing this?
I mean, this is something literally very weird.
Why would you...
I mean, you need to love your wife and respect her.
Well, he obviously doesn't love her.
He obviously is just married to her because he has to be, basically.
Like, he obviously still loves Kim Kardashian.
Right.
So we have here several tweets by Kanye.
We can't show all of them because they had the explicit language.
No, we can't show them.
But he left Twitter yesterday.
Oh, did he?
Right.
He left X. Probably for the best, to be honest.
He said, I'm logging out of Twitter.
I appreciate Elon for allowing me to vent.
It has been very cathartic to use the word as a sounding board.
It was like an ayahuasca trip.
Love all you who gave me your energy and attention.
Two, we connect again.
Good afternoon.
And what's the issue with just basic grammar?
I mean, my grammar is better than his.
I'm not even going to get into it.
Okay, okay.
Right.
Something called ebonics.
He followed Elon, but just before he nuked his account, he unfollowed him because Elon unfollowed him.
There's some Elon drama there, some ex-drama.
Right, so he also posted some...
He ranted against Taylor Swift.
So, like, just a quick thing.
I kind of like Kanye West, not because of the things that he says, but because he looks like someone who is struggling to come to grips with, like, power structures and social expectations around him.
He's trying to break out.
But he's gone really, really far off the deep end.
I like how he tries to deal with grammar as well.
And he never has any full stop, any comma, any exclamation mark.
He's a law unto himself.
But yeah, I don't personally dislike him.
I think his Christian arc, I think, was good, actually.
If you go back a few years where he's like, no, I'm going to be a hyper-Christian man and set a good example.
I thought that was a really good thing.
Kind of annoyed that he's melted down and decided he's not, and he's in fact a Nazi.
Like, no, your Christian-ness was better than this, by a long way.
Well, I mean, I don't know if our Christian friends are going to find what I'm going to say weird, but I think that it's...
I don't know, it's just...
I think it's more like in a sentiment.
If someone makes their faith a marketing issue...
It's not good.
I don't think that's what he was doing.
I think he felt like he was surrounded by perversion and he wanted to set a good moral order and decided that the Bible was it, right?
Which is totally fine and totally fair.
And for some reason this is just completely collapsed and he's like, right, I love Hitler, now what?
I mean, he was saying, and speaking of the moral order that you mentioned, he was saying that it's immoral to post-porn.
Yeah.
And yesterday, I don't know, he just started posting porn.
I know.
And so it's just like, Kanye, what are you doing, bro?
You actually, like, I didn't see anyone contradicting about the Christian stuff, right?
So, like, when he was like, yeah, no, I'm going to be a Christian.
I'm going to make gospel music.
I'm going to promote a good Christian life.
Like, I didn't hear anyone contradicting him on that.
It was all just like, okay, what are you going to say?
You know, yeah, why not?
That's a good thing to do.
So why go back on any of that?
I just don't understand it.
That was a meltdown.
And I think, I don't know whether we're trying to impose some rationality on it because we try to understand what's going on in his mind.
I don't know if there is one.
And a lot of people just reposted.
Pat sends a super chat saying, I'm no shrink, but I think it's pretty obvious that Kanye is off as rocker.
It does look that way.
Right.
So as you say, he went through a Nazi period or he's going through a Nazi period like that.
It's like literally yesterday or a couple of days ago.
He loves Hitler.
Now what?
You know?
I'm a Nazi.
Yeah.
So, okay, Kanye.
Right.
He also, he says here, what?
Go on, go on.
I'm just going to say what Ye wrote.
Said, Elon stole my Nazi swag at the inauguration.
Yo, my guy, get your own for rail.
I mean, that is funny.
He says, yeah, I'm quoting Kanye here.
He says, Newsflash.
White people and Jewish people are different.
You can get money with Jewish people, but they're always going to steal and invite you over to their house on Friday.
White people do not F with, I think he meant black people.
Yeah.
They leave that to the Jews.
Right.
Just having a meltdown.
Says all white people are racist.
Says Jewish people actually hate white people and use black people.
He was also saying that I only use people.
If I can't use you, you're useless.
Yeah.
So that kind of...
That's a...
That kind of...
Okay, Kanye.
Yeah, okay, Kanye.
Oh, you broke ass and bit...
No, I can't say this.
Yeah, I can't say how.
Sorry, Carl.
Sorry, Carl.
Apologies.
That's fine.
Yeah, it's whatever.
I will say something.
Okay.
Okay, people know what I believe.
But I find absolutely hilarious.
Again, it's the grammar.
It's not even a sentence.
All caps.
Not even a sentence.
Right.
And it's not the first time he had a meltdown.
He has gone through this from years now.
And anyway, I think he also was on Tim Pool and he had an issue with Tim and he left.
Right.
So it's not exactly news.
No kidding, Kanye.
Also, we need to mention, because we need to give people a whole picture, he has an issue with fat women.
Yeah.
And he also says that nobody wants to see this.
He also said that.
He said several other stuff.
What was it?
He had some...
He was talking about black people being the main people who hate black people.
Oh.
Anyway, just...
It's weird.
Right.
And he was...
There were people...
But something that was funny.
There were people who were criticizing him.
And he was reposting them.
And he said, I repost Brocast, you know, for my own amusement.
I mean...
Yeah.
He says now he has autism.
Some people said he had bipolar disorder in 2016. But now he tries to say he has autism.
I don't know if that's true.
I think maybe like...
I can't see how it could be false.
He's playing the Christian card.
Maybe he wants to play the internet autism card.
No, I genuinely believe Kanye is autistic far more than I believe that he's a Christian.
Yeah, right.
And...
I don't doubt this at all.
Right, and our segment now isn't just about Kanye.
It's just about weird stuff that happened in this February.
And it really looks like it's a rough month.
Trump derangement syndrome has hit record high levels.
We're not going to showcase Kyle Kalinske, are we?
No, but what we are going to show is going to be thematically disturbing.
It involves self-harm.
It's an article by The Telegraph saying democratic lawmaker undergoes voluntary sterilization because of Trump presidency.
Lori Pohatsky, 36, said she made the choice because she was uncertain she would be able to access contraception in the future.
If I can't have unprotected sex with strangers, then I'm being oppressed.
Yeah, so this is actually the point where Trump derangement syndrome reaches to serious self-harm.
Yep.
Trump.
I'm not really very sympathetic.
Imagine what her kids would have to live through.
Yeah.
Probably for the best.
Everyone wins.
Trump doesn't care.
He just flies over the Gulf of Mexico, the Gulf of America.
Gulf of America.
Thank you very much.
Now for him.
Just doing Trump things.
Right.
And we also had Super Bowl stuff yesterday, and this shows how some things have changed.
And there was a mix here.
There is a silver lining at the Super Bowl, but it was, again, a rough Super Bowl.
That was it.
Yeah, yeah.
But there was good stuff in it.
Taylor Swift was booed.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
Wasn't she the darling of the previous Super Bowls?
Well, she was the darling of the left.
I mean...
Maybe it's Kanye's effect.
He was saying that.
Well, no, she openly endorsed the Democrats.
Yeah, yeah.
So, you know...
If you're going to openly endorse and says, yes, people should vote for Joe Biden, and then he loses, and you're like, okay, I'm just going to go to the Super Bowl and everything will be fine.
Yeah, people are going to beat you.
The Super Bowl wasn't entirely de-woke-ified.
No, of course not.
That's the issue.
So it's weird because they had the...
Black national anthem along with a U.S. national anthem.
The sort of people who go to watch the Super Bowl probably aren't very woke Californians.
The audience is going to be normal MAGA chuds.
Here is Trump flying with the Air Force One.
He just doesn't care about Trump derangement syndrome.
That's a really wholesome picture.
Maybe wholesome isn't the word, but I don't know.
It's just fine and good.
It's impressive how energetic he is for his age.
Yeah, he's got a lot to do, you see.
Here he is at the Super Bowl during the National Anthem, just saluting.
It's a nice picture with his daughter.
Right, here is Taylor Swift getting booed.
let's play this she looks like she didn't expect this laughing Do you hear her?
What's going on?
Yeah, that's hilarious.
You're on the screen and everyone's booing at you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right.
It's good that they didn't make her kiss the other lady she was with because sometimes they do it, don't they?
That would be cringe.
Right here, we have...
That's an old picture.
That's an old...
Okay, they just...
We posted it now.
Yeah.
It's funny because, yeah.
Because his team lost, right?
Yeah.
So, like...
And I'm saying that the Super Bowl wasn't particularly de-woke-ified because they had the performance of Lift Every Voice and Sing, the so-called Black National Anthem.
And I think that that's an issue here because...
Excuse me?
Black national anthem is a racist relic left over from the BLM era.
Get rid of it.
Yeah, they should get rid of it.
You can't have two national anthems.
No.
What they're saying is the black people are not Americans.
Yeah.
Which I don't think is very fair.
They obviously are.
And, you know, if you want to have your own national anthem, you can't say that the other national anthem doesn't represent you.
Whereas the other national anthem, what you could do is to say, no, I'm going to claim it for...
I'm going to claim it for myself as well.
That's my national anthem.
As well, I may understand it differently.
Because, you know, people interpret songs and texts in all sorts of different ways and messages in all different ways.
But I think the retreat from saying that this is our national anthem and we understand it our way to...
We're going to have a second national anthem actually says that we don't conceive of ourselves as members of that nation.
Yes.
So, I mean, there's no two ways about it.
Right.
And let's just say, just other random stuff that happened from the world this February that suggests February is a really rough month, as I said before.
Lula in Brazil says to his citizens not to purchase expensive grocery items.
To combat soaring food prices.
Things go well in Brazil then.
So they're so glad they decided to not choose Bolsonaro, I can see.
That's rough for Brazilians.
Yeah, well, you know.
And it's not like the...
They chose socialism.
It's not like the influence of Lula isn't seen yet.
Lula, literal criminal.
He literally says, we have soaring food prices.
So those of you who can afford to buy, you know, really posh food...
That is expensive.
Don't buy it.
Go and use your money.
Chase.
How does that help anyone?
It doesn't help.
Actually, he's trying to cause a shortage.
If everyone buys the cheap food, then the cheap food just becomes expensive.
That if socialists understood economics, there wouldn't be socialists.
And isn't that your theme lately with government spending?
Oh no, my theme for that is the deep end.
Spiritual betrayal of the British person.
But anyway, sorry.
Here, Alicia Keys at the Grammy says, DI is not a threat, it's a gift.
That's the same Grammys that Kanye and Bianca Sensori crashed.
It's just a fest hole of degeneracy.
Hail.
A gift from whom to who else?
Well, just some questions answer themselves.
Now here we have a really rough headline.
Farmers told to avoid phrase farmer's wife.
Oh, sorry.
It reinforces gender stereotypes.
No one wants this anymore.
No one wants this anymore.
We are going to be woke North Korea and we're going to not know that.
It's four and a half years ago.
Four and a half years left of being woke North Korea.
I don't know.
It's just a rough month.
Yeah, we'll have to power through it.
Struggle through it.
but at least meltdowns are funny so we're just trying to find the good things sigil stone says don't forget that after all the reich posting kanye became the first and only person in human history to use the share on social media button on paul hub yeah Yeah, to 33 million followers.
That is a remarkable thing, actually, isn't it?
I just...
I much preferred Christian Kanye.
Just saying.
I much preferred Christian Kanye.
It's just so arbitrary.
There was zero reason to do it.
Just...
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Anyway, let's go to the video comments.
So, Australia has really messed up.
The government has just pushed through a proposed hate speech law, which is yet another blow to the principles of freedom of speech and expression.
This was primarily sparked by the surge of anti-Semitism, fuelled by Hamas supporters screaming, gas the Jews outside the Sydney Opera House, along with so-called neo-Nazi attacks in predominantly Jewish neighbourhoods, which I firmly believe were orchestrated by the government.
This bill was pushed through without any real discussion.
It was a complete rush job, driven by emotions instead of solid logic.
Sorry, right, okay, I've just got to go back to that.
For the left, it's fine when they do it.
No, no, no, no.
Predominantly Jewish neighbourhoods, which I firmly believe were orchestrated by the government.
This bill was pushed through without...
Look at that swastika.
Isn't it the other way around?
Also, it's...
It's not correct.
Yeah, no, no.
It's completely wrong.
One might think that a Nazi might be able to draw a correct swastika.
Yeah.
I don't think that's an unfair assumption at all.
If anyone's going to be able to, you'd think it'd be a Nazi.
So the idea that, oh yeah, look at these Nazis have drawn swastika.
This is like Sarah Silverman identifying some nonsense on the floor and being like, oh, is this a swastika?
Absolute nonsense.
I don't believe that an actual Nazi did this.
Sorry.
That's the minimum standard of Nazi can draw a swastika.
Right, let's go to the next one.
Yeah, unbelievable anyway.
Wholesome content time.
My son's dog, the orange one on the left, and my dog, Sakura, on the right.
Happy dogs.
That's a really wonderful and wholesome video by Michael.
I think actually pets are really good for the family.
Yeah.
Because they habituate people in the family to show emotions.
Yeah.
And be good to each other.
Yeah.
I see it with my own kids.
They really like to, like my youngest ones, like to stroke the cats.
And so the cat will come over and go, ooh, but give them the smallest strokes.
They don't really know how the cat's going to act.
But the older ones, the cats love them.
It's definitely true.
It was clear from the outset that this book, written in 2019, was diamond railing against Trump's first term and frightened he might win a second.
He sets out to catastrophize societies that have faced turmoil, particularly unedifying as his coverage of Germany.
Like all leftists, he can't not mention Nazism, but he repeats something from collapse that I found interesting.
He mentions Australia, but only to denigrate its continued link to England despite having all of Asia on its doorstep.
He cannot stand that Australia should reject Asian models and traduce his empire traditions, particularly Anzac Day.
Celebrating a notable defeat that he can't recognise as establishing national character.
Very interesting.
Just the pure liberalism of it.
It's like, these people are humans as well.
Why wouldn't you go for this?
Well, because of long-standing cultural ties, actually.
There's an ethnic bond there.
Sorry.
I think Alex has sent us another video about Jared Diamond.
I think the previous one, he was saying that he's a leftist.
Yeah, he's a good historian and just out of nowhere, he just starts with TDS. Yeah, but that's...
That's very common.
Yeah, you have many such cases.
Go to the next one.
Welcome to the Monolith.
Some 25 years ago, an interdimensional god was brought to our planet.
Build this mystical autonomous structure as they must know that humanity has won.
It's time.
*Sounds of the fire* In honor of Callum, I think he'd have made a segment out of the monoverse.
What is this?
I don't know, but I absolutely love the videos there.
I don't understand what's going on.
I absolutely love them.
I have no idea what that is.
Is there another one, Samson?
No, I think it was just for...
That's mental.
Yeah.
I'll tell you what, though.
One thing I am looking forward to is stuff like that being made with AI, right?
Because I'm assuming that was made with AI. You know, actually being able to reproduce, like, actually high-quality content done by people.
The one thing AI is going to really be useful for is special effects, you know?
It's like, good.
Biggie says, Carl, you sound like Keir Starmer today.
Maybe you need a voice coach.
I'm not having an affair with anyone.
It's your cold.
Yeah.
I mean, that's unfairly harsh to Carl, Biggie Bigfoot.
Sorry.
Matt says, hi from Japan.
It's a bank holiday tomorrow, so I've just got back from my local.
I'm treating myself to a late note with Carl and Stelius talking common sense.
Slightly tipsy, but you guys are the reason I feel safe.
Well, thank you.
I'm glad you're having a good time.
What are you drinking?
Garlic Goblin says, decline is there any possible future for you and everything else is far right.
Stelios absolutely nailing their attitude right there.
Perfect summary.
Yeah, I mean, that's literally what they believe.
It's it.
What I love is, they're not even saying it's bad.
Oh no, it's far right if you do that.
Okay, but why is it good?
Colin says, I love the way the globalist leftwaffer put down phrases such as make America Europe great again, as racist, right-wing, etc.
What they're doing is they're saying they want to keep it down.
Surely a more effective argument would be that it already is great.
Yeah, but also, no one would believe it.
Oh, Europe's already great.
What?
Everything sucks, bro.
But we have an NHS. Yeah, exactly.
That's literally their ending argument.
It's like, yeah, we have an NHS. I know, and we can't get rid of it.
George says, for Europe to be great again, the entire bureaucracy of the European Union must be destroyed.
Yeah, that's literally what it would have to be.
And this is what I've been saying for years.
All the patriotic parties are great, but if you have a cabal of globalists which can dictate policies detrimental to your country and common sense, nothing will be achieved.
Well, this is a major problem.
Alpha of the Beta says, in Germany you can be charged with hate speech for saying Germany for the Germans.
If Germany isn't for the Germans, who's it for?
It's for everyone.
It's a rainbow nation.
It's a propositional nation.
Anyone who arrives in Germany is German all of a sudden.
That's how it works.
Roman Observer says, as long as this mega idea doesn't become an excuse for a more united Europe and less nations, I think you need fewer nations, the European right should be more about traditions, plural, and less about liberalist American dreams of Elon Musk.
I think that's a really good comment.
It is.
And it leads us to a really good discussion because there are several debates about whether there could be a sort of federalist Europe or a Europe.
In what sort of form it would take.
I think it's right.
I wouldn't trust the Europeans to not end up reconstructing the European Union as we see it now, right?
I mean, maybe.
My hope is, with regards to that scenario, which I don't think is the only scenario that makes sense.
I mean, it has some pros and cons, but I think one of the issues is that the more there is an issue with mass migration, And the more Europeans understand what they have in common and what they are up against, the more likely they are to join forces in some cases.
So for instance, would you expect people to rally with the English and the Irish flag together in unison?
No, but we're not in a political union, the Irish.
So the issue that I have is that you're going to have a level of bureaucracy anyway.
I think that the Europeans will tend towards homogenization because it's all they've known.
The EU is older than any of them, right?
So it's going to be this kind of drive towards it, whether you like it or not.
I think the structure itself creates the mindset and selects for those sorts of people.
But I mean, you know, prove me wrong.
Jimbo says, I can't believe we left the EU. Now they're all going far right.
Sadly, I don't think Farage has the guts to say some of the things Marine Le Pen has been saying lately.
Just like Starmer, he may find himself in number 10 by suddenly just sitting back and watching Labour implode.
Yeah, and to be fair, perfectly reasonable strategy.
Why do anything if your opponent's just going to continue making mistakes?
But yeah, maybe he's keeping his powers right.
Who knows?
I doubt it, but who knows?
Kevin says, the reverse chaos theory Trump hurricane sweeps across America, the best we can get in the UK and Europe, is the political equivalent of a butterfly flapping its wings.
And that's a great comment.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because that's what's happening here as well.
Like, yeah, okay, we get some, like, right-wing conversation, but nothing changes.
Bass Tape says, I think one of our most important duties is to reclaim the term nationalist from its disingenuous association with Nazis.
No, the men who stormed the beaches were the nationalists.
The people who forced the armies back over the other side of their imaginary lines were the nationalists.
We are the modern embodiment of the nationalists.
I don't really like the word nationalism.
Why?
It's ideological.
It's an abstract ideological term.
It was invented by the French revolutionaries and employed by them.
To turn us into the Leveon mess.
It's the fungible, it's changeable.
Tolkien wouldn't have called himself a nationalist.
I don't like it.
You could have a different conception of it because if it's focusing on the nation and you're saying that there needs to be a kind of patriotism and social bonds that develop organically in the region.
The problem is it's the ideological position trying to impose from the top down onto the base.
And, to use Marxist framing, I think it will always seem basically artificial.
And, in fact, our patriotism should flow from a love of where we are and what we have.
And if we don't love where we are and what we have, well, then that needs to change before anything else.
And a kind of true patriotism will emerge once we fix the problem.
Say, well, I've established a set of a priori principles that make me a nationalist.
Now I want to apply them onto people.
I think it's just going to...
I don't think it's organic.
It's a lovely discussion to have.
Yeah, and it's not that I'm against people who are nationalists, obviously.
I appreciate, I understand why you're that.
And I hope that you're successful.
I just don't think it will be successful, actually.
I think that there'll be a kind of simulacra of patriotism, but it won't really be patriotism.
But maybe I'm just thinking about too much.
Do you think it's more people who are just falling in love with symbols?
Yeah.
Like the flag and not the country?
Yeah, and the concept of it, rather than being authentically tied to it, right?
So you, like, it's the same sort of thing as, like, Turks and Germany flying the Turkish flag, and it's like, what are you doing?
You know, these people don't know anything about Turkey.
They've been born and raised in Germany.
Why are you flying a Turkish flag?
And yet here we are, right?
So it's not they have an authentic love for the place where they are and a patriotism for something they genuinely know.
It's that ideologically, I am a Turk and therefore I wave the Turkish flag.
It's like, okay, well, again, you can be a nationalist outside of the nation.
And I don't know if I agree with that.
Like, I don't think that's proper patriotism.
But anyway, like I said, I'm not trying to dunk on nationalism or anything like that.
You know, I have goodwill towards them.
I just don't think it's the right way to do it.
Bob Slade, that's my dad.
Hi, dad.
Says, slightly off topic, why do the mainstream media insist on calling the AFD reform, etc., for example, far-right, when most of the supporters of these so-called far-right parties are mainly liberal types who would like to see stricter legal immigration control?
The answer, dad, is that it's a deceptive, Weapon that they use.
Because they think, you think, that the term far-right is a bad thing, and so they think that if they call something far-right, then you will think that thing is bad, and you will stay on the plantation and continue voting for the mainstream parties.
It has negative connotations.
Yeah, exactly.
They think it has negative connotations.
They are just cynical actors who are trying to keep you corralled into the correct frame of mind.
So, don't trust them.
Russian says, chicken nugget nationalism.
Justin says, it would cost us less money to deport them and then send them a pack of nuggets every month.
God, I didn't even think of that.
Genius.
Absolute genius, Justin.
The British government can be in hock to this one guy and his kid who just every month sends him a pack of chicken nuggets.
That's completely true.
Totally practical, Justin.
I don't know why I didn't think of that.
Arizona Desert Rat says, to me it sounds like the kid probably has autism.
To me it sounds like he's using this as an excuse.
Oh, my son doesn't like foreign nuggets.
Oh, shut up.
Get out.
I mean, how can you not show emotions if you show a love for chicken nuggets?
I'm not even saying that.
It's like, you know, true, true.
You know, there's no formal diagnosis.
I don't care.
I don't care.
It's such an excuse.
Like, my kids would make an excuse like that.
I'm not having it.
Richard says, if human rights is the ultimate top trump card for idiots and modern Western societies, then surely it's all the more the reason to be abandoned for the good of us all.
Yes, that's basically it.
I mean, obviously these are being weaponized against us.
Obviously this is us being taken advantage of by this doctrine.
We should abandon the doctrine and just find something that can't be used against us.
Do I have half a minute to be annoying?
Sure.
I think it's not the problem with a concept because...
No, no, no.
Hear me out.
Han Solo, hear me out.
No, because the very reason why we think what they're doing is wrong is because it violates something.
Sure.
If we just say, okay, we just stop thinking about the idea behind rights, which is that human beings deserve a default treatment, which is revocable, where we don't have any way to say why they are criminals and why it's wrong.
Yeah, but I'm not challenging the fact that we have...
The conception of the right.
Sure.
But I'm not challenging the fact that we have standards of right and wrong.
I'm challenging the fact that these are universal standards, right?
So human rights...
Should be the rights of British people and the rest of the world is not our problem, right?
So if we find something that is, you know, offensive or damaging to British people, then we are in no way the business of protecting the human rights of our babies.
No, I mean, that has to do with the positive rights.
Sure, but...
In any way, I'm not saying that means we have to start doing terrible things or anything like that, but we can have a hierarchy of importance here, and if this is damaging to the British people, then sorry, whatever rights you think you have, go and claim them in Albania, because that's the government that is charged with protecting those rights, not our problem.
That's, I think, a much more reasonable and...
Rational way of doing it.
And this would solve all of our problems.
I mean, most of the things that have to do with socialism and that are portrayed as rights in socialism, they're just positive rights.
Yeah.
They shouldn't be.
Just a wish list of things.
I wish it was like this.
Yeah, well, it's not.
Get out.
You have to say the name.
I'm not saying it.
When it comes to immigration policy, they will piss on the British people and tell them it's raining.
When they're deporting immigrants, they're importing twice as many.
They've condemned the Tories for conducting a population experiment, yet refuse to stop it.
And they know exactly what the British people want, but refuse to actually do it instead.
They pretend to.
It's not just that.
It's like, okay, the Tories were conducting an open water experiment.
Okay, so what you're saying there is there are millions of people who should not be here.
Why are they still here then?
Okay, why is that just send them home?
You know, they've literally arrived in the last year or so.
They can't possibly...
It's just a stunt.
A media stunt.
Exactly.
They know it's BS. They know that they are just using this as a political cudgel while the moment is useful for them.
Robert says, I keep getting told that British food is rubbish and tasteless and thoroughly bland, but now it seems foreign food is actually worse than ours.
Ah, yes!
Checkmate!
Sorry!
Are you appealing to the quality of British food?
God, don't even give me this.
I really have to say this about food.
Because, you know, I mean, I come from a country, and our kitchen is stellar.
Yeah, yeah, I like Greek food a lot.
So, I really like lots of food in your kitchen here.
Your cuisine.
And I will say that, I mean, fish and chips is just fantastic.
I just absolutely adore it.
I had a massive roast dinner yesterday.
Lots of flapjacks.
A beef roast dinner, right?
And the trick with the beef roast dinner is making sure that you get as much of the sort of fat out of the beef as possible to put in the gravy.
Yeah.
And make it as salty as possible.
It's so good.
I have to say this because this is my truth.
This is my experience.
The thing I absolutely hate everywhere, it's cross-cultural, is if I go, I'm hungry, I pay a lot.
And I order something and they give me a small portion.
It's just ridiculous.
That's why I like lots of local fish and chips shops because the pile of chips.
I don't mind foreign cuisine.
The problem I have is that they still don't have a second dessert.
It's good to have desserts.
Yeah, but they don't.
There's one dessert.
Desserts are amazing.
There's one dessert across the entire Mediterranean.
We've talked about this before.
No, we have too many.
No, that's propaganda.
It's not propaganda.
It's literally the only dessert.
Yeah, baklava and ice cream.
Oh, brilliant.
Just saying, Northwest Europeans have got dessert down.
Keegan A says, Kanye West is my favorite artist.
I've never actually heard any of his music.
Dark Fantasy and Yeezus are amazing albums.
Dark Fantasy being one of the best of all time.
I find his antics hilarious, but I just want music to get good again.
I've never listened to any of his music.
I hear it has really rich vocabulary in lyrics.
Oh, okay.
Good.
Why doesn't he use that on Twitter?
Kevin says, Kanye isn't autistic.
He doesn't even like chicken nuggets.
I bet he does like chicken nuggets.
What are you talking about?
Furious Dan says, I'm starting to think Kanye is actually schizophrenic.
In many such cases, creative artists.
You know, I think that...
I think that he's just in a lot of power structures.
That are difficult for him to navigate honestly, right?
And there have been lots of people putting lots of pressure on him.
So, okay, F it.
Let's post it.
Yeah, I genuinely think he's got to the point where he's like, look, I just want to reject these...
Hooks that people have in me.
You know, because there are going to be loads of people like, oh, you've got a contract for this, you've got a contract for that.
If you don't do this, you're in trouble.
And he's like, yeah, well, do any of the contracts say I can't come out and say, look, I'm a Nazi and produce swastika merch?
It's like, no, none of the contracts say that.
It's like, great, I'm a Nazi and I produce swastika merch, says Kanye West.
Like, I think this is a way of him rebelling against the institutions that have grown up and that he's been embedded in.
Whether these things are true or not, I don't know, you know, but it's like, I just think he...
Feels very unfree, right?
And I think a lot of this is him looking freedom.
Like I said, I'm weirdly sympathetic to him.
You know, I quite like him.
So, like, on a personal level.
And it's funny.
Whenever he starts tweeting, it's funny.
Like, these tweets started coming up in my timeline.
And I was howling, man.
I was just like, oh, God, why is he dead?
You know?
So, it was just funny.
At some point, he just wrote, I am God.
Yeah.
What happened to Christie and Kanye?
I preferred that guy.
Conqueror Thunderer says, forget nationalism, we're a kingdom, or we should be.
Well, that's exactly another problem.
Nationalism is fundamentally a Republican creed.
Russian says, I love Baklava.
That's your issue.
Not really.
I'm not like a super monarchist or anything.
But like, there's just something about it I don't like.
Can I ask you something?
I don't want to be a Republican either.
Because I hear a lot of people who are saying that one of the problems of the English right is that there are so many people who are so...
Let's say, aristocratic in their minds who literally don't want to talk to people like Tommy Robinson and there is a sort of gap in the right because there are some who say, well, I don't want the populist, the actually populist elements.
You know, I don't think the aristocratic elements have got that much of a problem with Tommy.
It's more the middle class elements that have a problem with him.
Like, for example, you've got Lord...
What's his name?
Lord...
Hearson, who was a strong supporter of Tommy and has been for years, is the one UKIP lord who just came out and was like, no, these are our people and we care about them, right?
Also, it's Lord Talbot as well, I think.
Oh, Lord Talbot, right, okay.
I don't know.
The point is, he does have support in the aristocratic classes.
What he doesn't have is any middle class support whatsoever.
Even Nigel Farage, whose politics are literally identical.
To Tommy Robinson.
Like Nigel Farage and Tommy Robinson, if you sat them down and had them do a political test, they'd come up with identical answers.
Nigel Farage can't have any truck with them because Nigel Farage represents kind of middle class politics and Tommy Robinson represents working class politics.
It's not an issue for the aristocrats.
Yeah, it's literally a middle class thing.
But anyway, Russian says, I love baklava.
Look, I'm not saying baklava isn't good, right?
Baklava is good.
It's just the one dessert that Mediterranean's have.
It's not just that.
We have so many desserts.
Name the other ones.
I'll produce you.
I don't know where to start.
We have triangles of panorama.
Which is going to be a form of baklava, isn't it?
No.
Go on, what is it?
It's just insane.
Oh, you have cannoli from Italy.
Okay, and what's that?
I just can't.
Is it going to be layers of pastry?
We could do a lads hour.
Is it layers of pastry?
No.
Are you sure?
Yeah.
I bet it is.
Anyway.
You'll find a way to twist the world.
I will.
I'll find a way.
We could do a lads hour with cuisine.
Yeah, okay.
We should do it at some point.
But yeah.
Prepare because there are so many.
I just don't know where to start because I don't want to be unfair to one dessert or something.
Why is it whenever I go to Greece, I'll go to a restaurant.
And they'll bring me the dessert menu.
It'll just be baklava and ice cream.
They're traitors!
I mean, don't get me wrong.
I like baklava as much as the next man, but like one option or two options even?
There are way more options.
Okay.
We'll debunk that later.
I'll get a grant from the government to debunk that.
Anyway.
I think we're out of time there, so thank you so much for joining us, folks.
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