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Jan. 27, 2025 - The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters
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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1087
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Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome to the podcast, The Lotus Eaters, for the 27th of January.
Bad news, it's a Monday.
Good news, I'm joined by Beau.
And we're going to be talking about some good news, actually.
How the God Emperor is laying down the law in pretty much everything.
How he is putting the world to rights with, say, the Jan 6th protesters.
And what was the final thing I was going to cover?
Oh yeah, that's right.
Trump's killing off DEI. Which, again, just...
It's a Monday, but it's not a bad Monday, which is nice to be able to say, isn't it?
Right, so let's begin.
It's Trump's world now.
He just owns it, he is exerting the American influence over it, and everyone is falling into line.
The king has returned.
He's back from Crusade, or from the Oubliette, or wherever he's been.
And, I mean, it is kind of like a Richard the Lionheart coming back from Crusade, isn't it?
He's been in prison for however many years, King John has been ruining the country, and suddenly Richard gets back and everyone's suddenly like, okay, yeah, we'll go.
We'll do as we're told.
And that's very much what Trump's doing.
So recently...
It is a remarkable thing that you got re-elected after a term out of office.
Like I say, Grover Cleveland's the only other person to have done that in sort of remarkable political...
It is quite a vindication.
Yes.
Future historians will wonder why Joe Biden got 81 million votes and why they didn't turn up a second time.
People will genuinely, well, I don't understand.
Well, there was a lot of controversy at this at the time, blah, blah, blah.
And if he had just got re-elected in 2020, he almost certainly would be, how to put it, less radical or more milquetoast than he is now.
They've radicalised him way further than he was back in 2016. Yes, they have.
And in some ways he'd be a lot more lame as well.
There'd be less that he would be able to do.
But no, yeah, giving him a four-year timeout has definitely radicalised him and allowed him the space he needed to draw up a list of enemies to prescribe people, as it were.
Because they didn't just leave him alone in that interim period.
They tried to destroy him on every possible level, including shooting at him.
Yes, including assassination attempts, including lawfare, including attempting to bankrupt him, banning him from having property in New York, making his name sort of Harris Stratton, in a way.
Because there are various public intellectuals who just won't say Trump's name.
They treat him as if he's the unnameable.
Who's the villain from Harry Potter?
Voldemort.
That's it, Voldemort, yeah.
He shall not be named and things like this.
So yeah, they did everything they could and it failed and now Trump's in charge of everything.
And so he's beginning.
So this is the wrong set there, Jack.
So he's begun with making sure that foreign countries are well aware that they are taking their illegal migrants back.
This has been going on constantly.
I talked about this on Friday, where day one hit the ground running.
Tom Homan has just been like, yep, no, unleash the hordes going into these communities, grabbing illegal criminals.
And he said he's starting with the worst first and putting them on planes and sending them home.
And so Columbia was like, well, hang on a second.
We're not going to allow that.
So Columbia obviously has a leftist president because South America, why wouldn't it?
Gustavo Petro has said, nope, we're not going to allow US migrant deportation flights to land.
Quotes, the US cannot treat Colombian migrants as criminals.
What about the criminal ones?
They are actual criminals.
This is the thing.
Homan has gone after actual criminals, people who have illegally broken into the United States anyway, but then have committed other crimes.
And, of course, the leftist president is just like, well, you're just saying that we're all criminals.
It's like, I'm not saying that yet.
It's not just criminal as in that they crossed the board illegally, but these guys are...
Actual...
Rapists, murderers, drug hackers.
The worst of the worst.
The worst people.
The sort of people who've got a list of criminal convictions in their name, and for some reason they're just allowed to roam free in the United States.
How telling is it that they knew exactly...
Where they were.
Who they were, where they were.
Again, what a terrible, terrible indictment it is of the previous administration that they just allowed...
Yeah.
Allowed them.
Well, it makes you wonder, doesn't it?
It's like, why would you allow...
A multiple convicted rapist or murderer or drug trafficker or whatever to reside in the United States.
You know where they are.
It's not like they're in hiding.
Yeah.
Vice turns up at their door day one.
You.
Yeah.
Why would you not have already deported that person?
And the only answer that you can reasonably come to is you approve of what that person has done and you want them to continue doing it.
Why else would you want that person remaining in the country?
Well, no.
We're going to give them another chance.
What?
He's on his eighth conviction.
Why would you do this?
It's like, do you think he's going to break the habit of lifetimes?
Or maybe this time?
No.
No one's that naive.
The only thing that you can assume is that it's malevolence, that they want them to carry on committing these crimes in the United States, which, thankfully, Trump is taking very seriously and has just decided to say, no, they're all going back.
And so, anyway, Colombian President Gustavo Petro decided he was going to put up a brave resistance and say, no, we're not having that.
And so, again, this was happening Sunday night, right?
So Trump has not taken a moment off either.
You can tell that Trump has just been full bore on this.
And so Trump posted this on Truth Social, which is just wonderful.
And for some reason my mouse has stopped working.
It's just wonderful, right?
So he says, I was just informed that two repatriation flights from the United States with a large number of illegal criminals were not allowed to land in Colombia.
This audio was given by Colombia's socialist president, Gustavo Petro, who's already very unpopular amongst his people.
I love the way the personal attacks begin instantly.
I don't know why my mouth stopped working.
Anyway, who's very unpopular amongst his people.
Sorry, pull that back up so I can see it.
Petro's denial of these flights has jeopardized national security and public safety in the United States, so I've directed my administration to immediately take the following urgent and decisive retaliatory measures.
Emergency 25% tariffs on all goods coming to the United States.
In one week, those 25% tariffs will be raised to 50% tariffs.
It's hardball, isn't it?
It's very hardball.
Cover it.
Did you expect to export goods to the United States?
Did you, Petro?
Not on my watch.
You've got one week.
It's this bad for the first week.
And then it gets worse, right?
A travel ban and immediate visa revocations on the Colombian government officials and all allies and supporters.
So Trump's saying, look, anyone who is even vaguely connected with this government, bam, you're not coming to my country.
Then visa sanctions on all party members, family members, and supporters of the Colombian government.
I mean, that is...
Coming down like a ton of bricks.
That is amazing.
Just not messing around anymore.
I tweeted saying, this is how an actual leader who's got the interests of their own country and their own people at heart, this is how you would behave.
Yes.
Make the small and irrelevant nation of Colombia understand that they're having their own criminals back.
You can't just offload your criminals to our country.
That's just how it is, and you're going to have to deal with that.
And so Gustavo replied to this via Twitter via a mucho wall of texto.
This goes on for quite some time.
I've done a Google Translate, so I'm going to read some of it.
He says that some socialist leaders were murdered by fascists within the USA as well as in my country.
I have no idea, and I don't care, right?
But the point is, it's like, oh, you're a fascist, blah, blah, blah, right?
And then he starts getting really leftist about it.
I don't like your oil, Trump.
You're going to wipe out the human species because of greed.
Calm down, Gustavo.
Maybe one day over a glass of whiskey, which I accept, despite my gastritis, we can talk frankly about this, but it's difficult because you consider me an inferior race and I'm not, nor is any Colombian.
What are you talking about, bro?
Just take your foreign criminals back.
It's got to do with any of...
Your criminals are not going to live in the United States, mate.
I don't know what you're talking about, inferior races or anything like this.
Wiping out the human race.
Just take these criminals back.
Put them in your own jails, right?
He says, so if you know someone who's stubborn, that's me.
Period.
You can try and carry out a coup with your economics.
What are you talking about?
Take your foreign criminals home.
Why are you talking about coups?
Why are you talking about master races?
Or inferior races?
Why are you talking about any of these things?
You lunatic.
He's like, yeah, they're going to overthrow us like they did with Elende.
I will die in my law.
I resisted torture and I resist you.
What are you doing?
I don't want slavers next to Colombia.
We already had many and freed ourselves.
What I want next to Colombia, he's talking about America, are lovers of freedom.
If you can't accompany me, I'll go elsewhere.
Colombia is the heart of the world, and you didn't understand that.
This is the land of yellow butterflies.
Just take your criminals back.
You don't like our freedom?
Okay.
I don't shake hands with white slavers.
What are you...
I didn't know Trump was a slave.
How many slaves has he got on his plantations?
Well, you know what?
Let's get to that in a minute because he says, quote, I shake hands with the white libertarian heirs of Lincoln.
Trump is a Republican president.
You support the Democrats.
What are you talking about?
They are the United States and before them I kneel and no one else.
Right, so you support the Republicans.
But not Trump, who is a Republican.
He owns slaves.
Anyway, he says, overthrow me, president, and the Americas and humanity will respond.
It's like, just take the flights.
Just take the flights.
He goes on and says, Colombia now stops looking north, looks at the world.
Our blood comes from the blood of the Caliphate of Cordoba, the civilization of that time.
But the Roman letters is a very racial nationalist speech, this whole thing.
What are you talking about?
What is this?
Like, this is deranged.
I was going to say, it sounds like an unhinged rant about anything.
About race and superiority, actually, which is when slavery, which is just like, what are you going on about?
And the thing is, like, again, it just sounds like...
Just take the goddamn prisoners back.
That's all you have to do, right?
He carries on forever, right?
He says, quote, you will never rule us.
It's like, take the prisoners back.
What are you talking about?
Anyway, so he carries on.
He says apparently that America took the Panama Canal from Colombia.
Again, this goes on.
This is really long.
Like, screed.
Your blockade does not scare me because Colombia, besides being the country of beauty, is the heart of the world.
He repeats that.
From today on, this is all in capitals at the bottom.
Colombia is open to the entire world with arms.
We're the builders of freedom, life, and humanity.
It's like, then, just take back your criminals, mate.
I'm informed that you impose a 50% tariffs on the fruit of our human labor to enter the United States.
And I do the same.
So he's imposing tariffs back on the United States.
Let our people plant corn.
Yeah, America's like, we import from Colombia?
Yeah.
Apart from drugs, obviously, which they try not to import.
Let our people plant corn that was discovered in Colombia and freed the world.
So it's just stupid idealistic leftism.
So anyway, that lasted for about 40 minutes and then they capitulated.
Colombia then started sending the presidential plane over to bring the prisoners back to Colombia.
I wonder exactly what happened in that interim.
Who came into the presidential office and said what?
Well, it will literally be his chief economist has walked in and said, sir, we can't do this.
That's well and good, Gustav, but these tariffs are actually going to ruin us.
Mr. Presidente, we will all starve.
Yeah, I guess that's what it was.
Or maybe it was just always bluster.
They knew they were going to have to capitulate, so he...
You know, like a little bit of bluster just before you run away in a fight.
Which is very much what has happened.
Yeah.
I mean, like, the thing is, I view it as, yeah, he's got these, like, high-minded leftist ideals, but the reality is you're going to take the prisoners.
In fact, he sends you the presidential plane of Colombia to go and collect them, actually, because we don't really get to make these decisions.
Pretty much made it clear, you're going to screw us.
It's not just sort of a climb down or a U-turn, but like a handbrake turn, like a panicked handbrake turn.
Yes, after a weird racial supremacist screed from the president of Colombia, he then bent the knee and said, yeah, no, we'll completely do exactly as you're asking for.
Don't put tariffs on us, please.
And so, yeah, that's good.
Easy win for Trump, and this was just a nice Sunday evening, I guess, for the Donald.
There's the idea that Trump is the master of the deal.
Well, he has shown again and again that he is able to actually leverage stuff, and people, other foreign countries and things, take him seriously.
When he says to North Korea, I'll send you back to Stone Age, or whatever it was, I'll annihilate you, little rocket man, or whatever he said.
I can't remember.
My red button's bigger than yours.
Yeah, people are like, okay, okay, well...
Well, that's the thing, isn't it?
I don't think you're bluffing, so fair enough.
You've got to seem like you're going to follow through on your red lines.
And Trump does sound like the kind of guy who seems like he actually will.
And this is one of the problems that, of course, people have had with Obama or Biden.
They just let people run roughshod over them, and they didn't...
Anyway, so Trump's not taking any prisoners here, and he posted this on Truth Social.
He posted that.
He posted that.
For anyone listening, it's an AI-generated picture of Trump dressed as like a 20s mobster with FAFO on a sign next to him.
I don't know what that means.
What's that?
F around and find out.
Okay, right, of course.
And Trump is giving the camera a kind of steely look.
Not that he actually did post this.
Not taking any prisoners.
And so this was an amazingly entertaining night's work.
I was just following this on Twitter last night.
It's like, wow.
If only we had, I don't know, the ability to threaten Pakistan with revoking visas and not sending them aid money and tariffs on anything.
If they would...
You know, not take back their foreign prisoners that we have currently filling our jails.
Because, I mean, you know, the first thing that Starmer noted is, oh, the jails are overflowing.
So, okay, well, why do we have, like, 25% foreign prison population?
Why don't we send them home?
Well, they won't take them.
Make them take them.
So, you know...
Actually lead.
Actually...
Yeah.
Actually do something, yeah.
One of the criticisms would be that America's got a lot more leverage than Britain, which is true, but we've still got...
All sorts of things that can be done.
We give them £113 million a year.
Why?
I would just revoke that anyway.
There's all sorts of pressure that can be done if you just had the political will.
To do it.
And Trump, as we were saying earlier, from the four years out of power has definitely hardened the man's heart.
Trump clearly has that political will.
And again, what I love about this is all this was was probably Trump on the toilet tweeting.
What am I doing now?
I'm making the President of Columbia bow.
That's what I'm doing.
I'm making him do exactly what I want.
And then I'm going to wipe.
Anyway.
So...
Lots of people were upset about this.
Oh, AOC. To punish Colombia.
Trump is about to make every American pay even more for coffee.
It's like, dude, it's worth it to get rid of the murderers.
Like, sorry, there are dangerous people wandering around, or you pay like 50, 60 cents extra for coffee, whatever it is.
Or buy non-Columbian coffee?
Yeah, or buy coffee that was grown elsewhere.
It's really not that difficult.
There are other countries like, yeah, we'll take our guys back if you want to give us like a favorable deal on coffee.
But yeah, so the only...
But no, it's the only concern.
It's not for the victims of these murderers or other criminals.
It's not for the potential victims that they would create in the future.
It's the fact that, oh, I've got to pay extra for my coffee.
Look at that.
It's 50% more now.
But that's really inconvenient.
I really didn't want that to be the case.
So she doesn't feel like she's in danger from these criminals.
And it actually is, in my opinion, immoral.
Yes.
But when you weigh up...
The possibility of having to pay a bit more for Colombian coffee or the safety of people.
And we're talking about rapes and murders and violent crime.
The worst crimes.
It's not like they're stealing your bike or something, which is terrible anyway, but these are brutal crimes.
So you weigh those two things up and you disregard the violent crime aspect.
Yeah.
I mean, it doesn't...
What a disgusting thing.
You would think it wouldn't even need consideration.
Trump is doing, and that's the point as well.
Trump has got a completely valid moral imperative at work here.
I'm worrying about the lives of Americans, right?
You know, okay, it'll be inconvenient if you have to have orange juice or tea rather than your coffee in the morning.
Assuming you can't buy coffee from somewhere else.
Yeah, that is inconvenient.
Sorry to hear that.
You know, but actually, I want these people to still be alive.
And so, you know, you'll just have to...
Work out what your breakfast routine is going to be, frankly.
You're just going to have to figure out a new breakfast routine.
Anyway, so the last part was, well, we buy flowers from Colombia.
Think of how difficult Valentine's Day is going to be.
I don't grow any flowers in the United States.
Not possible.
That's not a thing.
Apparently not.
There's nowhere else on earth that grows flowers.
But even if there wasn't, okay, buy chocolates instead.
Trump isn't imposing tariffs on Belgium.
Anyway, so this Colombian example is a very emblematic example of how things can be done.
And lots of other leftist South American governments are also unhappy.
Brazil's leftist government was outraged after illegal aliens deported from the United States arrived by the plane in handcuffs.
It's like, yes, they're criminals.
These are literally all going to be convicted criminals.
Dangerous men.
People who have been part of gangs.
People who have been drug trafficking.
People who have been murdering and raping.
I mean, it's as if Brazil hasn't got a massive problem with crime.
This is one of the major pillars of Bolsonaro's government.
It's like, no, we're going to hunt the cops and we're going to make sure these gangs are broken.
But anyway, yeah, so Brazil, not happy.
It's like, well, keep crying because Trump is literally going to make you take them back.
And, of course, the Haitian...
I don't even know what...
Is there a leader in Haiti?
I'm not even sure if there is.
But, apparently, he said, well, look, Trump's sending back all of our illegal aliens.
That's catastrophic news for our country.
Like, well, then, why would you want them to live in America?
I mean, there's literally Haitian gangs in, like, Ohio or whatever raiding people's, like, you know, places.
In Springfield, Ohio or whatever.
It's like, no, is it...
Or Venezuelans.
Yeah, but...
A, I mean, come on, it's Haiti, man.
Is your country not already the recipient of living in a catastrophe?
How much worse can it get?
This is just such amazing evidence.
It's like, well, if you send them back, it'll be really ruinous for us.
It's like, oh, will it?
Is that why they're here in the first place, is it?
You thought you were offloading all of this.
So when Trump was like, yeah, they're emptying their prisons and sending them to us, maybe he was correct.
Anyway, so there are, you know, just a couple of other things that Trump is throwing his geopolitical muscle around on, which is Putin and the war in Ukraine.
Putin, look, this is ridiculous.
Millions of lives have been lost.
He said this at the Davos WEF speech.
He zoomed in and just chewed them all out.
And they all sat there and gave him a polite round of applause afterwards.
It was really embarrassing for them.
And it was a beautiful thing to watch.
It's funny the change, the sea change there's been, because I remember in his first administration, at one point he went to the UN and people were sort of laughing.
Oh yes.
Now he gets sort of a muted round of applause.
It wasn't even muted.
They were all like good clapping seals and they were complimenting him.
Consistently.
They're like, Mr. President, your brilliant ideas on this and the other.
And Trump basically just chewed them all out.
And they all said, thank you, sir.
Can I have another?
And it's so good.
And so, yeah, anyway, Trump is like, Putin, knock this off.
And Putin's like, yeah, okay, I'm ready for negotiations.
Yeah, we better wind this down because Trump's in charge again.
And we can't just F around because we might find out.
Which is the point.
And so the question is, do people like Trump acting this way?
Do people approve of him improving the United States, putting his foot down on the necks of people who might otherwise be described as dictators and tyrants?
And the answer is yes, obviously.
Trump has now got record-breaking approval levels.
For the first time ever, Trump has a positive net approval rating of plus 14, which is way higher than Keir Starmer.
He has an approval rating of something like minus 40. This is literally a record-breaking milestone for him.
And also, when the British public is asked, well, would you like us to do something similar?
Well, as long as they didn't ask, as long as they didn't say, these are Trump's policies...
As long as they just asked whether on this particular thing, so on illegal immigration and deportations, would you like to declare a national emergency and begin the process of returning the thousands of criminal migrants back to the places from which they came?
Weirdly, 58% of people are like, yeah, I do like that, actually.
As long as they don't attach Trump's name to it.
So you can see the propaganda war that the British press has been waging against the British public to stigmatize Trump.
Yeah, okay, they'll be like, oh, I don't want to...
Don't want to be stigmatised by the press.
But when asked in isolation, would you like trade protectionism?
I wonder just on that, I wonder how much of the 25% that said no were people...
Are criminals?
Yeah, or are people first generation immigrants?
Great question.
We don't know.
Because one of the arguments that gets made about sort of defending reform and sort of not Rupert Lowe, but...
Nigel and Tyson and the others that say, we just can't talk about re-migration because it's too toxic.
I just don't buy that.
I feel like people are screaming out for it.
58% of the public are like, yeah, send them home.
Of course it's not too toxic.
This is by far the centrist position, which is deporting thousands of criminal migrants who broke in at the bare minimum.
That's just the basic sort of entry-level thing.
It actually is centrist now to not want your country flooded.
Most people in the country agree with that.
I think so.
And with all other things.
Would you like a merit-based, colourblind society?
Yes, of course.
Would you like energy independence?
Yes.
Would you like to restore free speech?
Yes.
Of course people say yes.
And again, it's the same sort of quarter of the population that are the Labour voting leftovers of the previous paradigm, who are just like, no, we have to have a socialist tyranny.
People are not in favour of that, actually, and people do want more Trump.
And this is why Trump is now more popular than, I think, any European leader at this point.
I mean, maybe Orban or someone, but like all of the sort of, you know, neolib, Macron, Merkel, you know, Ursula von der Leyen, Keir Starmer types.
Trump's way more popular than all of them.
When you look at the examples of Milley and Bukele...
McKaylee is the most popular president in the world, with an approval rate of about 90%.
The average person that can't afford to live in some sort of gated community or somewhere where it never really touches them, if that's not you, i.e.
the vast majority of people in every country, then, yeah, they're going to want to be more safe, please.
Of course.
Right, let's go to some soup chats.
I can't read a bunch of these, but yes, that is indeed what he was like.
Is Farajan Reform taking notes, or are Farajan Reform, taking notes on how to defend your borders, or is Trump going to have to correct their behaviour in a soundproof shipping container with a lead pipe?
Honestly, it seems it's going to end up being a lead pipe.
Trump's life as a property magnate was basically training for learning to find pressure points and then press them sharp and hard until he gets a deal he feels is suitable.
Yeah, that does seem to be the case.
I mean, at least he knows how to get people to do what he wants.
Superb.
Trump schooled Columbia while golfing.
Another day's work.
I like the fact that he's not taking a day off.
I just like the fact that he's just going hard on them.
Dear Columbia, we will ruin your country, your economy.
Now watch this drive.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If anyone doesn't know, that's George Bush.
What was he saying about?
He was talking about how the whole world has to come together and face terrorism.
That's right.
And then he just turns around.
Now watch this drive.
And then he just shoots a golf ball.
One of the best parts about the Columbia situation is that Trump was golfing.
Trump's not putting his foot down.
He's putting his foot up.
And you know where he's putting it into.
Yeah, fair enough.
And Bo, if that beer gets any longer, are you going to get a cowboy hat, sunglasses, a fuzzy guitar so you can audition for ZZ Top?
I like it, to be honest.
Perhaps the President of Colombia should lay off his country's two most famous exports.
Yeah, that's another thing as well.
He came across as deeply unhinged, frankly, which is interesting.
Trump is so gangster that I'm starting to expect world leaders who defy him to wake up next to horse heads.
He is pretty gangster.
I mean, I love the mob boss picture that he put up.
That was funny.
The two most famous exports.
It's like, the first response was he was on cocaine.
The second response, he was high on weed.
It's like, oh, okay, go on then, dude.
And, you know, maybe he was.
Over the weekend, ICE DEA and ATF raided a building and arrested 50 members of the Tren de Aguara gang.
They found drugs, trafficking victims, and 50 illegal criminals in one go.
Glorious.
Again, Tom Homan, you can tell he's having a great time as well.
Have you seen him in interviews?
He's just smiling.
He's constantly...
He's not the sort of guy who looks like he smiles a lot.
Tom Hyman doesn't look like a jolly fellow, except for when he's deporting illegals.
The engaged view says, they came for the illegal criminals, and I did nothing.
Then they came for the illegal aliens, and I did nothing.
Then they stopped coming for people, and things got better.
Yeah, things will get better for Americans after this.
There's a thing I was going to say about when you look at the examples of Milley and McKinley.
It's relatively easy and straightforward not to have policies which don't just destroy your country.
When you look at how Miele has got inflation under control, when you look at how Bukele has got safety under control, the policies themselves are very straightforward.
Yes.
It's nothing sort of out of left field or something that's never been done before or anything like that.
Take a rocket scientist to work out.
I mean, I tweeted at Bekele the other day because there was an article that was the police in Atlanta, Georgia, were like, look, 40% of crime in Atlanta, which is, you know, millions of people there, is done by 1,000 people.
Constant repeat criminals.
I was like, is there a solution to this, Mr. McHaley?
He's like, I don't know what you're suggesting.
It is, I think, nearly always the way that the majority of crime is done by actually a relatively small number of people that just will not stop doing criminal things.
Yes, so you should lock them up.
Really not.
Again, it's not rocket science.
Neo Unrealist says, the golden age of America has been better than advertised.
Yeah, to be honest, it's been going great.
I'm really jealous.
My Twitter feed for the past couple of days has just been deportations.
Jesus, I've seen what you've done for others.
But, yeah, there was a video of Tom Homan and Dr. Phil.
They had arrested some Thai illegal immigrant who was also a kiddie diddler.
And Dr. Phil's asking, like, Tom Homan is there at the deportation because it's like, this guy's clearly enjoying himself.
But, yeah, Daddy's home now and the unruly brats are terrified because he's taking off his belt.
Yeah, that's what's happening.
That is kind of cool.
I like the idea that the actual Home Secretary is at the airport where people are getting deported.
Tom Homan is there waving them off.
You don't have to be here.
I know.
Because I want to be.
Anyway, let's move on from that good news and go to the next good news.
All right, so we need to really talk about January 6th because we haven't covered it yet on Notice Eaters.
Not in any detail.
Not in any detail anyway, yeah.
Sort of the new developments.
So he's now trumped some sort of what they keep calling blanket pardons for somewhere in the region of 1,500 people that were held.
Where did he get the inspiration for that from?
Oh, right.
It was Joe Biden blanket pardoning thousands and thousands of criminals and his entire own family, wasn't it?
Sorry, I forgot.
There is one thing jumping ahead.
I was going to leave this angle for a bit later, but might as well just say it now.
That is one thing that is worrying to me, and it's a broader point.
It's a broader point, not that I've got any problem personally with what's happening with the Jan 6 hostages, political prisoners.
But the idea that going forward, looking into the future, years, decades down the road, it doesn't bode well.
It's not what the presidential pardon was originally meant for, is to be doing things like this.
It isn't.
If Trump was a smart chap, what he'd do is bring forth legislation, get it through the Senate and Congress, say, look, there's a limit to this or there's some sort of restriction on it or whatever.
You can't just have infinite pardons of your supporters for the fun of it.
Yeah.
Yeah, because, like I say, I'm on board with this.
Yeah, this is a good use of it.
But you can see that in the future, both sides will keep abusing it.
Again, there's parallels with the ancient Roman Republic.
Because what Trump's done, and what Biden did, is completely legal.
It is within the framework of what is legal.
But that's how republics fracture and break and eventually fall apart, is that you keep pushing closer and closer to...
You do things that are legal, like a lot of the tribunes towards the late Roman Republic were doing things that weren't illegal.
But what it meant was just when the other side are in power...
They do it more.
It's a tit-for-tat thing.
They do it even more.
And then you're sort of forced in one way or another to do it even more.
And then it gets to extreme lengths.
And then the law does get really bent to the point of being broken.
And then you're...
Then you're a prescription-less.
Right.
So you can...
Maybe decades from now, we will get to a point where it's sort of the Marius Sulla days.
Where it's not just pardoning people that have been unfairly prosecuted or something.
But it is something much darker than that.
Yep.
And Trump has the opportunity to nip it in the bud here by just legislating against it.
Right.
I don't know how it would work.
I'm not a legal scholar or anything, but he should definitely do something.
But anyway.
So it was late.
I'm not sure if it was late last night or late Saturday night.
He just sort of did these blanket pardons.
It's 1,500-odd people.
And among those 1,500-odd people, depending on which outlet you listen to, between 175 or maybe 600 of them were people that have been accused of or actually convicted of violent things on that day.
And so that is a bit of a grey area.
When he was actually signing the thing, he said, Trump said, there's only sort of six cases where they're actually going to...
Look at it very closely.
So, it's not a complete blanket, but still.
I mean, to be fair, even if it was a complete blanket, how many police officers or special service or security died that day?
Well, from the rioters.
And the answer's none.
How many rioters died because of them?
Well, the answer's one.
Especially Babbitt.
Yes.
And so, even if the rioters are guilty of, like, smashing...
Some, like, property damage or something.
It's not the worst thing in the world to pardon those people.
They didn't murder anyone.
Well, it was a mass trespass event, is what it really was.
Not actually an assault on the core ideals and values of the United States.
I mean, are you sure that messing up Nancy Pelosi's office isn't an assault on the core ideals and values of the United States?
All right.
So there's a clip here.
We can watch it.
Let's not put the...
Don't put the audio on.
We don't need it.
But it's just to give people an idea of...
I mean, it's from CBS, so just an idea of what's going on.
And they did release Jacob Chansley.
That's the Anon Shaman fella.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, the guy with the horns, yeah.
Sort of the face of it in many ways.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Also, the Proud Boys leader, Enrique Tarrio.
I saw that, yeah.
The former Oath Keepers leader, Stuart Rhodes.
And our very own Edward Jacob Lang, who Josh...
I say our very own.
Josh has interviewed the guy twice.
From prison.
Yeah.
And he was facing among the worst charges, but never actually had a trial.
Yeah.
He was held on what we would call being held on remand for years without a trial.
I mean, this is literally what habeas corpus is for.
It's very, very difficult not to describe him as a political prisoner.
He absolutely was a political prisoner.
And I don't, personally, I don't think it's going too far just to call them hostages.
That's what Trump calls them.
In the clip where he's actually signing the thing, he just calls them hostages.
What a hero.
Yeah.
Loving the golden age so far.
So if we go to the next link.
Jack, who's actually doing it today?
Harry.
Yeah, so you can see on, and the next couple of links, you can see that Lotus Eaters have spoken to him.
This is Josh, like, literally phoning him from prison.
So he's on a prison phone, and so at some points it ends up cutting out sometimes, and it's like, okay, is someone listening to this?
Is someone deliberately, and it's entirely possible that they were.
Yeah, I would have thought so.
In the third Lotus Eaters link there, we actually got a timeline that Josh and Hugo put together very soon after.
In fact, it's the 7th of January 2021, the next day.
And it's almost a minute-by-minute breakdown of what happened.
And they haven't had to, I don't believe they've had to revise any of it.
No, no, it's been very solid.
Because it was...
It's straightforward.
It's all sort of there in footage in black and white and all sorts of things.
Obviously, it was disruption and it was a trespass event.
I'm not going to try and claim nothing illegal happened.
It is illegal to do what a lot of the people did.
But you can see that...
What's really good about this is, again, it's got the exact times of things, right?
So 3pm, roughly, sort of, where is it?
About 2.59.
The congresspeople are evacuated 3.07.
The protesters have entered the chamber.
And at 4.17pm, Trump released a video on Twitter asking for the violence to stop for people to go home.
So it's like, we've got all of the evidence here.
Trump wasn't just like, yeah, go, get them, overthrow democracy.
It took an hour for Trump to have a video on Twitter saying, look, stop doing what you're doing, get out.
So I think this is what this all boils down to.
Is the narrative, you believe, about what happened that day?
Yeah.
And one narrative is that a load of MAGA people turned up.
Trump tried to dial it all down, more than once on that day as well.
Earlier in that day, I believe he came up.
Oh yeah, he tweeted about it.
Yeah, right, earlier on.
They didn't heed it, and then a mass trespass event took place in which Ashley Babbitt was murdered.
Yes.
And that's it.
That's basically it.
That's what happened that day.
That's one narrative, the one I choose to believe, or anyone that's reasonable actually.
It seems to be what actually happened, doesn't it?
The other narrative is the one the Dems went with, which is that it was an attack on not just the building, but on the democracy itself, on the republic itself, on the ideals and values.
I mean, I wrote an article, Go a bunch of clips later.
There is a, on the one year anniversary of it, Kamala Harris, is it one link before that?
That one.
Can we actually listen to about two or three minutes of this?
Would that be alright?
And this is obviously the Dems narrative of what happened that day, so take it back to the very beginning and we'll watch this.
Fellow Americans, good morning.
Certain dates echo throughout history, including dates that instantly remind all who have lived through them where they were and what they were doing when our democracy came under assault.
Dates that occupy not only a place on our calendars, but a place in our collective memory.
December 7, 1941. September 11, 2001. And January 6, 2021. On that day, I was not only vice president-elect, I was also a United States senator.
And I was here at the Capitol that morning at a classified hearing with fellow members of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
Hours later, the gates of the Capitol were breached.
I had left, but my thoughts immediately turned not only to my colleagues, but to my staff, who had been forced to seek refuge in our office, converting filing cabinets into barricades.
What the extremists who roamed these halls targeted was not only the lives of elected leaders, what they sought to degrade and destroy was not only a building what they sought to degrade and destroy was not only a building hallowed as What they were assaulting were the institutions of
the values, the ideals that generations of Americans have marched, picketed And shed blood to establish and defend.
On January 6th, we all saw what our nation would look like if the forces who seek to dismantle our democracy are successful.
The lawlessness.
The violence.
The chaos.
What was at stake then and now is the right to have our future decided the way the Constitution prescribes it by we, the people, all the people.
We cannot let our future be decided by those bent on silencing our voices.
Overturning our votes and peddling lies and misinformation.
Okay, you can stuff it there.
I'd really like to juxtapose that with just the picture of the guy carrying the podium and waving.
It's like all the violence.
Oh, you bought this guy?
Come on.
All the violence.
Not the murder of Ashley Babbitt.
Not that bit.
That was the actual violence.
But obviously there's the sanctimonious tone to it.
Yeah, I can't stand it.
But also just gaslighting that they dare talk about misinformation.
If you go to the next link, I wrote an article about this.
Can you go to the...
There you go.
I called it Kamala's fever dream.
Where's the mouse?
Yeah, I don't know why the mouse is working.
Okay, so I'll just paraphrase if you scroll down a bit more.
A tiny bit more.
There you go.
So I talk about how crazy, really, about misinformation, to liken January 6th to Pearl Harbor or 9-11, where obviously truly, truly terrible, disgusting levels of violence happened.
Literally thousands of people died.
Yeah, to equate January 6th with Pearl Harbour, where some sailors, like, their flesh is sloughing off their bones.
Like, when people are burnt like that, they go sort of all wet, and they're still walking around.
And just the horror, the true horror of what played out at Pearl on December 7th, 1941, or 9-11, 2001. In the 9-11 videos where people are, like, trapped on the edge of the building, they have to essentially just jump.
Yeah.
It's just like...
Jesus Christ.
Like three-odd thousand people pulverised.
Pulverised.
And you equate that with what happened on Jan 6th.
I mean, that's sort of truly disgusting.
I say in that article that there's loads and loads of examples of the Biden administration just lying or tweaking the truth, however you want to put it.
But that one stuck in my memory.
That one sticks with me because it's so egregious.
Because not only is it just a liar, but it's stomping on, spitting in the face of your own war dead, your own victims of terrorism.
And you would only do that if you cared nothing for their memory.
You would only dream of doing such a thing if you were detached from history and you assume your audience as well know nothing about history or what really went down.
It's just not their problem.
That's the thing.
They clearly don't care about the fact that these events happened.
And I really think that they essentially have got to the point where they stigmatize American history so much that they kind of feel detached from those events.
They don't feel that they are fellow Americans.
And that is the classic socialist, commie, leftist thing is to deliberately detach the present from the past so that whatever you say is completely adrift in its own bubble.
That is a very, very deliberate thing.
What was the thing Kamali said?
To be unburdened by what has been?
No, very literally, deliberately.
Don't be burdened by what actually happened at Pearl Harbour in 1941. Don't actually remember what truly happened on 9-11 and the horror of it.
Because I'm going to make this crazy connection.
And that's evil to me.
It's sickening.
It's disinheriting people of their history.
the thing because we we always stand at the the top of a pyramid of events of history that are cumulative that put us in the place that we're in at the moment and say well actually none of that really matters and what the only thing that matters is here and now no that's that's not true it's You can only truly begin to understand the present by having an appreciation of the past.
And so they want you to not really understand the present because they're trying to bamboozle you.
And a big part of that, one leg of that stall, is to make sure you don't understand or you're not familiar with the past.
The attempt to kind of gin up Jan 6th as being something as equivalent to Pearl Harbor or 9-11 is, I mean, in retrospect, it's kind of...
It's not just morally abhorrent, which it is, but it's also kind of embarrassing.
Oh, yeah.
Intellectually.
Embarrassment.
Morally and intellectually, it's just like, we need this for our political agenda to go forward to be cemented in your mind as those things are.
And it's like, okay, but I didn't need persuading about Pearl Harbor and 9-11.
And you're desperately trying to persuade me about Jan 6th.
Instantly shows they're not the same and that this is something that you're doing for political gain and not because it's the morally correct thing to do.
So it comes back to that point I was making about it depends which narrative you believe about the events of Jan 6. Was it a Pearl Harbor type assault on the very heart and soul of the United States or was it sort of a poorly...
A poorly executed mass trespass event.
What was it?
And so, depending on how you look at it, is how you would then view Trump's blanket pardons of 1,500-odd people.
Is it sort of, you know, a terrible mistake?
As Lindsey Graham said, it's a terrible mistake to have done this.
And other Dems coming out, and even the odd Republicans saying, this isn't good, this isn't a good thing.
Which is a fair point to make.
I mean, you could call it a mistake.
I hate to say it with Lindsay Graham, but you say it's a mistake and it shouldn't be done.
Yeah, sure.
But proportionally, does that mean two years in prison or three years in prison with no trial?
No, that's a disproportionate response based on the hysterical narrative put forward by people who are trying to persuade you that this is far worse than it actually is.
And so what's been done to them is not proportionate to the crimes they've committed.
No, absolutely.
And as I said before, it's very, very difficult, or impossible in my mind, to describe most of these people as simply political prisoners.
That's all it really is.
Or making an example of them, all sorts of things.
In other words, not a fair...
that justice hasn't been dealt out fairly.
So they talk about, Kamara there in that clip, remember, talked about the Constitution and things.
You know, it's very similar to the Starmer's arresting of the Southport rioters and people posting on social media afterwards.
Yeah, there are people who did things they shouldn't have done, but nobody died.
You know, there's some property damage.
And yet Keir Starmer took this as an assault on the moral order of the state itself.
It's not that bad.
Especially not the social media posts.
And the other sort of thing to mention is that Biden, in his last few days or last few hours, gave pardons to lots and lots of the actual police people that were there, as well as people that were on the committees that looked into it, gave them pardons ahead of time because they haven't been, they're not on trial, they haven't been convicted of anything yet.
So he's giving them pardons ahead of time, which is, you know, it speaks volumes.
Why would the people on the committee need a pardon?
Why would they?
If they haven't done anything wrong?
If their narrative was correct even remotely, why would you feel the need to do that?
Why would that even enter your mind?
It's a very strange thing that reveals everything about it.
Like that guy, Michael Bird.
He's been pardoned, of course.
I don't know if he has actually, but he certainly hasn't been put on trial for manslaughter or murder or anything like that.
In fact, some of the mainstream media news, NBC, giving him a puff piece, if anything.
No, no, it's exactly as it was.
So, okay, that's the thing.
The Jan 6th, most of them, nearly all of them, I think with a small number of exceptions, they've either had their sentences commuted or just full pardon.
I think nearly all of them have got full pardons and a small number of them are having their sentences either commuted or, at the very least, very small number, half a dozen or so, Trump is, they're just going to look at their cases again in detail.
So I think most people, unless you're a Democrat Party ultra or a full partisan, I would have thought most people and the rest of the chattering classes around the world, including people like us, are just going to say that that's closer to justice or fairness than just holding them effectively on remand indefinitely.
I mean, yeah, by far.
It doesn't even need to be discussed, does it?
Anyway, let's go for some super chats on that.
Siron says, Yeah, there's definitely unanswered questions surrounding that, Why were the National Guard not brought in?
Why were the police standing down?
Why were they opening the gates?
Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Why would they...
I think it's documented that there were FBI agent provocateurs in the crowd.
Well, why is...
What's the guy who's yelling, we have to go to the Capitol?
Ray Epps.
Why was he not arrested?
Sorry, is he not one of the prime instigators?
And he was given a puff piece by CNN afterwards.
Because he was the target of MAGA conspiracies.
It's like, well, answer the questions then.
And it's very interesting.
Someone mentioned there the Reichstag fire.
I wrote another article saying exactly that.
Because that's what it looks like.
The Reichstag fire is that there's a criminal element and crimes going on and that we have to crack down or give ourselves some sort of enabling act or some sort of raft of laws in order to defeat this menace when in fact something entirely different and nefarious is really going on.
Very much so.
Binary Surfer says, Harris's lies and misinformation.
It's always projection, remember.
Yes, that is correct.
It is always projection.
See footage from Don the Pleb.
Got arrested, charged months later.
His footage shows him walking calmly around and chatting to friendly cops.
Yeah, that's another thing as well.
Why were they literally...
I mean, when Ashley Babbit was shot, they were literally being escorted around by the police.
So it's just like, you know, come on.
I mean, they were smashing on a door.
Yeah.
There was some sort of door in, so I can't remember.
There were police literally just behind them in the stairwell.
So it's like, what are you doing?
Why aren't you running that?
But anyway, so...
No one was in immediate danger when he fired.
Yeah.
When Lieutenant Byrd fired.
Just out of interest, would we have done the pleb on?
You spoke to him before?
Why not?
Yeah, I like the guy.
Yeah, I like Don.
Can we scroll down on those, please, Harry?
The problem, sorry, those buildings belong to we the people.
That said, in order to be trespassed, you have to be trespassed first.
A warning, it was a trap.
Yeah, I think it was a trap.
And I hate the deification of the Capitol building and the American democracy.
It's literally not instantiated by God.
It's literally created by the people, apparently for the people, through literally the apparent association through consent.
At the end of the day, Americans should be able to walk in there whenever they want.
But of course, not according to the Democrats who want a kind of divine state.
And the crank takes it and says, the problem is that the rioters on the left don't need pardons because they don't get arrested in the first place.
And if they do, they get money and apology.
So not for the right.
Yeah, that's completely true.
But anyway, in the interest of time, let's move on.
So, more good news.
Trump is killing off DEI. Which is diversity, equity, and inclusion.
And he's been coming for this pretty stridently.
As you can see, the BBC complaining that Donald Trump makes, quote, two sexes official and scraps a bunch of DEI policies.
And so he revoked a Biden executive order, which was aimed at preventing discrimination based on gender identity or sexual orientation.
Good.
Get rid of it.
Trump also signed the executive order recognising two sexes only, male and female, and declaring that they cannot be changed.
Perfectly reasonable.
Isn't it embarrassing for all of Western civilisation that we don't want to dunk on the United States solely, or I don't want to, particularly as they're sorting their shit out better than we are.
Literally met with a giant man in a dress for Burns Night.
And it's just like, yes, the Americans are way ahead of us on this.
Did you see him squirm when he was asked to define what a woman was?
All that sort of stuff.
He also said that 99.99% of women don't have penises, which implies that 0.01% of women do have penises, which they don't care.
There is a tiny, tiny number of people that have got a true intersex condition.
Actual hermaphrodites.
So that does exist.
That is a thing in the world.
But it's such a tiny, tiny number of people that the fact that it has to go all the way to the Oval Office, all the way to number 10. The important thing about that is that those people didn't choose their condition.
Right.
So they're not even...
Exactly.
So people don't get to choose their gender.
These things are things that nature puts upon you before you're even born.
So nonsense.
It's a classic thing.
When you look back through history, I think of the late Byzantine period, for example, but there's lots in the late Ptolemaic period in Egypt.
Or perhaps even there might be something in younger people when you're confused or whatever of androgyny.
You know, there's been many, many fashions throughout history that lean towards androgyny.
Okay, that's nothing new.
But to actually, for a man, the real problem, isn't it?
It's men.
Just claiming that they're a woman now and that you're not allowed to question it.
I mean...
It's a nonsense.
It is ripping apart the nature of the very fabric of our society.
Also, you're giving away for people who are prepared to do it.
To take advantage of a system that will allow them access to spaces to which they ought not to have access.
So male rapists being put in female prisons, for example, what a surprise they continue to rape women in prison.
Actually, you shouldn't be allowing men to rape women in prison, so this shouldn't be something they can do.
So that's the ultimate problem, isn't it?
It's not that just a guy wants to wear drag and insists on being called a woman.
No one can stop you from doing that.
Right, yeah.
Yeah, or a woman that just feels like she's very, very masculine, dresses as a bloke and has a short haircut and wants to be known as Dave or whatever.
Okay.
Okay, that's whatever.
But it's when men get access to female-only spaces and put them in danger.
Yes.
So that genuinely is a really terrible, terrible thing.
Yeah.
I mean, it tanked Nicholas Sturgeon at this.
But anyway, so...
So the next thing that Trump did was to end DEI inside the federal government by cutting funding to all DEI programs across all the agencies and a review of all the offices that have been renamed because of DEI initiatives, which is something they think they're going to try and do to be clever and get around it.
And this means essentially voiding a bunch of civil rights nonsense.
So there was...
What's interesting, right?
Now, I didn't know this until this came to the fore.
The Civil Rights Act only applied to civil society in the United States.
Is this the LBJ 1960s stuff?
Yes.
It didn't apply to the federal government.
And so, actually, LBJ had to, for some reason, write an executive order to make sure that this was something that was done, that was done in 1965, which was still the law today, because, of course, no one had just bothered to revoke it.
And Trump decided that, you know what, he was going to revoke that too.
So now the U.S. government actually can discriminate in ways that are prohibited by the Civil Rights Act.
Interesting.
But it is interesting how they had a carve out for themselves, right?
Like, yeah, no, you will all have the Civil Rights Act apply to you.
It doesn't apply to the government for some reason.
It's weird.
It's very, very interesting and good, in my opinion, anyway, that Trump is revisiting stuff as far back as the 60s.
Well, in his inauguration speech, he mentioned the Alien and Seditions Act.
1799 or something.
Yeah, the very, very end of the 18th century.
It was John Adams, the first John Adams legislation.
He's going back that far, if needs be, in order to sort things out.
That's great.
Yeah, it's superb.
So anyway, yeah, so Trump clearly is intending on just tearing this stuff out by the roots, and like you say, he's going back as far as he needs to, to make sure that this is essentially a colourblind, merit-based hiring system, which, fair enough, this is what has been stigmatised by the left as white supremacy, which I have no comment on, but I don't agree.
I think it's actually a sort of neutral.
But anyway, moving on.
Pete Hegseth was, you know, the guy with the deus vault tattoos.
Yeah, he was confirmed by one vote in the Senate to be the Secretary of Defense.
So he's on it.
And as you can see, no more DEI at the Department of Defense.
The Pentagon will comply immediately.
No exceptions, no name changes or delays.
And so this has been the sort of...
The falling of the dominoes through the institutions, right?
So, again, the fish rots from the head, and so, boom, begins at the top, knocks down, clunk, clunk, clunk, clunk, clunk, clunk, clunk.
And so you end up with DEI propaganda, if we can just play that with no sound, being shredded in the TSA.
This is from a TSA agent.
Libs and TikTok got this video from a TSA agent at Colorado, right?
As I know, we were instructed to remove all DEI signage from their operation areas following Trump's executive order.
Brilliant.
Beautiful.
You'd love to see it.
You'd absolutely love to see it.
I do hope that if Trump and other countries in Europe are able to untangle and reverse themselves from all this nonsense, I do hope that in decades, if not centuries to come, it will be a tiny, tiny blip.
There was a small period at the beginning of the 21st century when Western civilization went down a terrible cul-de-sac, lost its mind on some level, or their elites did.
The normal people never bought it, but their elites tried to do something insane briefly in the early 21st century.
I hope that's all it is.
You know how we go back like 100 years and we go...
Wow, they actually had, like, mobile lobotomy mobiles drive around cities and just lobotomize people.
How mad is that?
How mad were those people?
And...
In that sort of list of mad things we used to do, they're going to bring up a picture of the Biden administration with the transgenders on the White House lawn.
Right, exactly.
The transgender guy who stole the luggage.
Admiral Rachel Levine.
Right.
They're going to bring up that and go, look, this is a man wearing a dress.
People almost won't believe the image.
It's like, wow, that happened?
It's like, what, really?
It's like, in the 12th century, the papacy was ruled by a pornocracy or whatever.
13th century.
It's like, people are like, what?
Prostitutes ruled the Vatican?
It's like, yeah, somehow, you know, things have been weird.
Seven-year-olds were sent to work in factories until they dropped dead of exhaustion.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or whatever.
It's like, wow, that was crazy.
That was a real thing.
And the Biden administration will, I think genuinely, when historians write the period that we're living through, they won't really want to talk about Biden because he doesn't really do anything interesting.
He will be a kind of sideshow character in the Trump story where Trump, you know.
It sorts all the stuff out, and it's like, yeah, and so, you know, under Biden you had three transgender officials and various other things, and these things were bonkers.
Like the Biden interregnum.
Yeah, and it will be kind of a, there'll be YouTube videos done of you will not believe just how...
It was an anomaly, hopefully.
It'll look like a clown show, hopefully, if we're lucky.
And it looks like we're on the good timeline, so who knows?
But anyway, so people in the institutions are trying to get around this.
We've got to rename the DEI group.
No, no, no, no.
Stand on your principles here.
You want diversity, equity, and...
Don't back down now.
Oh, it's the Accessibility Group, bro.
It's like, no, no, you liars.
That's a classic leftoid thing, isn't it?
We'll just rename the thing.
Yeah, yeah.
It's completely the thing.
It's just the Equal Opportunity Employment and Accessibility Group.
Okay, everything named Equal Opportunity Employment and Accessibility Group, that's also gone.
Trump, I think, is, and you can see with Hegseth, I can't pronounce these names, they know That you're doing this, right?
They are telling you they know, so you know, and you're still trying to do it, right?
They know.
The gig's up.
The gig is completely up.
Like, you have a wide-awake administration in the Trump administration to this stuff.
They know what woke is, they know the slimy games you're going to try and play, they know what your agenda is, and they're just going to grab it and pull it up by the roots.
The Air Force doing the same thing.
Oh, we're renaming it to something else.
The Cultural Office or something.
It's like, no, no, no, no.
No.
No.
We know what you're doing.
It's going to go.
I'm sure the Trump guys are completely on this.
I don't think I'm being blind to it.
Good on people, by the way, for making it very visible on Twitter.
You know, make sure you tag the people who are in charge of the various institutions and agencies so they can be like, ah, right, that's the name of it.
Brilliant.
We'll get rid of those guys.
And so this is all being done on the federal level.
So it's like, you know, where federal direct...
Power is applied.
But it's also happening in universities.
Because universities, of course, get a lot of federal funding.
And you can tell the people, oh wait, we're where this nonsense comes from.
We love this nonsense.
Are we going to get defunded?
And it's like, well, Rowan University of New Jersey clearly thinks so.
Because they changed their DEI office to, well, they just scrubbed it entirely and just pretended it doesn't exist.
Same with Colorado.
And there have been a bunch of other universities.
I'm going to just pull up these ones.
But they've renamed it to the Office of Collaboration.
It's like, yeah, make sure that you categorize, make sure you record these things and send them, put them on the internet, make sure that people can see them so the Trump administration will be like, ah, that's it, great, get it, go on.
That's not a loaded word, collaborator, collaboration, like that's not really, yeah, we see you.
We know what you're about.
The universities are quite often, or in all sorts of ways, the wellspring of this sort of Marxist, neo-Marxist nonsense, there's all sorts of different words that can be used for it, but we see it.
Yes.
Right?
And the end result was that you tried to ruin the fabric of our society.
You tried to make kids want to be mutilated and stuff.
Terrible, terrible crimes.
We see you.
It's generational crimes that you're committing.
That's the thing.
You are doing things that are going to be difficult to undo for people's entire lives.
People have been deprived families.
A number of lives that have been ruined, even in this small, hopefully historical blip.
Still, loads and loads and loads of lives ruined.
It's really terrible.
But anyway, so this is what the government itself has access to.
So the question is, can it happen to the private sector, which is what The Guardian asks.
So they say, well, you know, will this affect private companies?
It's like, no.
But apparently Trump has asked the Attorney General to look into ways it can get the private sector to do this as well.
So it's like Trump's like, no, I'm not stopping with just what I'm particularly...
No, we're going to try and get everything.
And they point out that Trump's strong anti-DEI stance has led to what advocates consider a chilling effect.
So companies have started to preemptively drop these policies.
And if we want to get contracts with the government or something like this...
We've got to get rid of this stuff.
You know, I mean, it was never good for business anyway, but when you had a Democrat in the position of power who was going to sort of throw large S at you for it, you know, give you favorable contracts and stuff like that, it was worth having.
We had lots of activists on social media, and the social media platforms were controlled by people who were aligned with the left-wing establishment.
Oh, it was all very good to do.
Now it's a right-wing establishment, and they're like, you know what?
I think we might back off this.
Forbes has got a great list here.
And it's...
Extensive.
And this has been happening since the end of last year, after Trump won, obviously.
John Deere, the farming manufacturing equipment company, have dropped it.
Harley Davidson have dropped it.
Jack Daniels manufacturers have dropped it.
Ford have dropped it.
Home Improvement Chain Lowe's has dropped it.
Coors, the beer, after, I guess, watching what happened to Bud Light, they've dropped it.
And in 2023, they did a feminist-themed ad.
In the same sort of Bud Light vein.
Pools did.
Yeah.
Okay.
I didn't even see it, actually.
But they've dropped it.
And this is like just completely rooting out the DI stuff.
We're like, yeah, we're not doing that.
We're not doing pride marches.
We're not doing LGBT flags.
We're not doing any of it anymore.
Walmart has abandoned it.
Again, these are massive businesses.
Massive, massive businesses.
McDonald's has announced that it would abandon specific diversity targets, cease participation in external surveys about demographics, and rename its diversity team to the Global Inclusion Team.
So even McDonald's was like, yeah.
So back in like 2017 or something, McDonald's was like, I can't remember where it was, but there's this one still of the McDonald's CEO giving a speech to a room full of, you know, people.
And on the wall behind him, on the sort of telly screen behind him, is...
A modern progressive burger company.
It's like, yeah, you wanted it.
Isn't it funny that it's things like Bud Light, Gillette, Jaguar, whatever it is.
It's surprising to me, anyway.
I don't know how to say it exactly.
Some people might pull me up on not really describing it properly, but sort of the hierarchical nature where you can, as you say, change the head out.
Literally the one guy that sits in the Oval Office.
His worldview or his policies change and like dominoes down the side of pyramids.
It's about the incentives.
It's about being aligned with the ruling ideology of the power struggle.
How powerful that is.
We still live in such a structured society that Biden gets swapped out for Trump and the bald at Coors just suddenly their whole worldview is changed apparently.
It's interesting.
Oh, yeah, it's fascinating.
And it's the way that the world works, and that's why.
I mean, there are going to be loads of people at these companies who didn't want this stuff in the first place, but were like, oh, right, the Biden administration.
It's very much on this, so we're just going to have to genuflect just to make sure that we stay in their good graces because we don't want investigations or civil rights charges or something like that.
And we want to get federal contracts, and we don't want any trouble.
We don't want the media causing public backlash against us.
We just don't want any trouble.
We just want to sell our product, and so we'll just do it.
And if it's now, okay, the other way, well, then we'll just drop it.
And it's not that there aren't...
Like, you know, Ben and Jerry's aren't rolling back their DEI policies or anything like that.
Because the guys who run Ben and Jerry's are total ideologues who are insanely woke.
But most of them aren't actually woke.
Most of them are just responding to incentives in...
And responding to the nature of the ideology promoted by the executive.
And so they will just do what they want.
I mean, like, for example, Meta, you know, Facebook.
Like, Mark Zuckerberg has done his little round on the Joe Rogan show going, hey, bros, I'd actually like to be a bro.
I actually don't want to be a woke.
And it's like, yeah, well, you know.
And his interview with Joe Rogan was really interesting.
He was like, yeah, no, the Biden administration were on the phone shouting at me.
Do this, that, and the other.
Sensor this, that.
And Mark Zuckerberg, you know, for all his faults, he's not like...
Someone who is a Machiavellian genius.
He was a tech bro who made something that got unreasonably popular, right?
He didn't seem like someone who was like, well, I'm going to take over the world now.
It seems like it kind of accidental to him.
What I find odd, or interesting rather, is what you're talking about there, the incentives.
Yeah, it totally makes sense.
But not entirely though, to my mind, because take for example Bud Light or Gillette, what they did.
So the incentive is that they're mirroring or parroting the worldview coming out of the White House.
That's the incentive.
But they lost loads of money.
Loads of money.
And loads of their market share and all sorts of things.
So in terms of money and market share, there wasn't an incentive.
There was a negative effect.
So it's difficult to...
They did it just so that Biden and people in the White House were like...
Good boy.
No, no, no, not just that.
There's a moral imperative in the ideology.
But at the cost of millions or billions of dollars.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Powerful stuff.
It is.
Well, this is why people shouldn't underestimate the compulsive power of ideology.
Because literally it will make...
And there are loads of examples of game companies and film companies like Disney losing billions and billions of dollars.
Why?
Well, we needed to put woke moral ideology into the thing.
It's like, yeah, but you knew that was going to come at the cost.
It's like, yeah, but we did it anyway.
Because otherwise we can't sleep.
You know, it's like, you know, you being like, well, look, I'm just really against slavery.
It's like, okay, but those, you know, you own a bunch of slaves.
It's like the American founders, right?
They knew that, you know, ending slavery would be bad for them personally.
But if you view this as just this intrinsic and intransigent moral abomination that you have to live with, that you can't have trans people in Disney films or something, then, yeah, okay, eventually you just get to the point where I've got to choose, and I'm going to choose what I think is right.
And you're right, it's crazy how powerful it is.
The thing is, often that doesn't ring true.
I mean, maybe Disney's or Ben and Jerry's, that is absolutely correct what you said.
It's not every case.
I'm not saying it's universal.
But if you take someone like Bud Light or Gillette, where they fall in line with the new regime straight away.
So they weren't actually guiding all ideologues at any point, actually.
The thing we want to remember is there are various different levels.
A lot of the advertising people are insane woke ideologues, and they use essentially white guilt against the CEOs.
So if you've got a bunch of millennial, non-white, progressive...
People, they'll make up things.
They'll be like, well, actually, look at, you know, they'll think of a viral campaign that was predicated on identity politics.
But yes, this can work and stuff like this.
And a lot of the time, it's basically kind of browbeating from the people around them and a lack of moral fibre and common sense.
It was like what happened at Jaguar.
Yeah.
The very, very top guys at Jaguar were browbeaten or guilted into doing...
I think the tech bros at Silicon Valley are the same.
I don't think Jack Dorsey himself was woke, but I think he was surrounded by a bunch of woke people.
I think he was just kind of weak.
Same with Mark Zuckerberg.
I think he was weak, which is no excuse, obviously.
But they themselves, I don't think, were in favour of it.
But anyway, so Target as well, Amazon.
Loads, loads.
I mean, this is an extinction event for the DEI. Which is great.
There are, of course, like the Japanese who are fighting World War II 50 years after it ended, there are going to be some holdouts.
For example, Costco.
In a nearly unanimous decision, Costco's shareholders voted in support of Costco's current diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives after the National Center for Public Policy Research submitted a proxy proposal to audit the company's litigation reputation and financial risks.
So they have decided, no, we are going to hold the line.
We are going to be woke North Korea in the American retail business.
And that's fine.
Fine, we'll see how that works out, won't we?
Sairon says, The deal with January 6th, you examine the evidence, Nancy Pelosi and the Dems, the FBI, or attempt...
Oh, I think I've read that already.
Sorry, can we scroll up on those?
Just at the very top, please.
To be honest with you, I'm fairly relaxed about this.
The activists themselves will make themselves known by their refusal to capitulate, right?
In fact, you've got someone like...
Sorry, can we go back to the...
I don't know why my mouse stopped working.
Can we go back to the...
Click on that, please, so I've got to focus on the thing.
So you've got Al Sharpton, who went to Costco, who...
It was like, you know, we'll stand with Costco.
We will always stay with Costco.
And it's like, okay, he's never going to be changed, right?
And I'm not saying the shareholders of Costco are going to be changed either.
But there are a bunch of people who aren't, right?
So when Jeff Bezos is like, you know, I hate DI, actually, and I don't want this.
Yeah, I'm prepared to forgive that.
Do we need to pillory Mark Zuckerberg?
Or would it be better to say, yeah, okay, Mark, but now you have to do X. Now you have to do Y. Now we have to make sure we get based Facebook.
Just like Elon has given us based Twitter.
Do we want that or do we want to spend all our time extracting confessions out of them like an Inquisitor?
And I'm actually not very interested in being inquisitorial about it.
Just get rid of the activists.
These people can all go and they'll fall into obscurity because they'll have no access to anything and we won't need to worry about them.
Cut the cancer out.
No need to actually kill the whole victim.
Yeah, exactly.
No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
And I think there's going to be sort of a stigma that surrounds these people anyway.
Like, you can imagine being like, you know, the head of a woke company and then invited to, like, the World Economic Forum when it's surrounded by base companies all the time.
People are like, oh, yeah.
You know, I think they'll end up carrying it with them.
Anyway, we'll leave it there.
Let's get to the video comments.
Actually, no video comments, that's good.
It's no video comments.
Not today.
That's good, because we're running out of time.
Someone online says, it's so nice to have power wielded in a way that doesn't involve us bombing everyone.
Yeah, and I'm personally in favour of power being...
I mean, hey, that's a great point.
Trump has been deft with his use of power here.
He hasn't threatened anyone.
You know, no one can be like, he's threatened to hurt someone.
No.
No, he's threatening to just leverage, not soft power, but economic power, which is sensible.
And he's doing it in the interests of the American people.
It's the classic thing in any negotiation, when you know the power of your position, and you know the power or weakness of your opponent's position.
Like playing cards.
There's many different examples.
Any game, really.
But actually playing your hand...
Right up to the line of what you can do, you know, short of, in Trump's case, without putting the military option on the table.
Because, you know, you could have said to the Colombian dude, if you don't do exactly what we want, the B-52s are coming in, the Marines will be landing on your beaches.
Didn't need to go there, doesn't want to go there, that's not good.
So, yeah, but then actually looking at the array of options that you have got and using them.
Nothing's stopping you.
Nothing's stopping you.
You can completely do this.
And rather than, and again, the kind of lefty bureaucrat mentality is, well, we will just ask them politely, and if they say no, we'll just suck it up.
It's like, no, we'll tell them, and if they say no, we'll start acting.
screw this weakness.
Man of Kent says, Yeah, and this is entirely the problem with leftism.
It's genuinely a way of punishing the law-abiding person.
Like, sorry, no, you just have to live with this increased likelihood that someone who has got no right to be in this country murders you or your children.
It's like, no, I don't.
Why the hell would I have to do that?
Well, because otherwise my coffee costs more.
That's a shame.
That's a real shame.
What about my flowers on Valentine's Day?
Well, I don't know.
You go pick some daisies.
I've got no sympathy whatsoever.
I don't see why I should.
I mean, what an unbelievably disgusting thing.
I mean, there's one thing to be sort of a wishy-washy, lefty, 1970s Labour-type lefty person.
Okay, there's that.
So it's just left of centre.
But then when you've got real...
Real socialists or real actual true communists, Marxists.
The end game is to destroy capitalism and to undermine to the point of destruction of all of Western civilisation.
The very nature of property ownership.
Right.
And the way that politics is conducted.
In the democratic West.
It needs to be undermined and ultimately annihilated and eradicated.
You know, let's be clear, that's what a lot of these people do aim at.
And they pretend it's just about equity.
They pretend it's just about the human rights of some mass murderer or mass rapist.
No, no, that's not true.
It's not a pretense, right?
They are correct.
They are sincere.
It's just that the human rights of murderers is the weapon and lever by which they overthrow the property and classes.
It's not a pretense.
They view those people as vital to the planet.
And this is why Keir Starmer, again, what did he do?
He went around for free trying to get convicted murderers off the death penalty.
Why would you waste any amount of time on that?
Unless you're, of course, an ideological socialist who wanted to overthrow the way things are done.
And so these people are important to the socialists.
They do extend moral consideration to them.
It's the heat map, isn't it?
You know, the I love the out-group or I love the in-group.
It's literally that.
Baron von Mohawk makes a great point here, by the way.
He says, this Colombian socialist leader calls Trump a fascist, a slave, a genocidal maniac.
But no point does he state that those being deported are not criminals.
That's a great point.
He howls in rage at the thought of having them back in his nation.
He sees these criminals as a weapon to attack America and is raging at the thought of having them back.
Precisely.
Precisely.
Not trying to question him on the individual cases, the individual people.
Yeah.
He accepts that they're terrible criminals.
And the Haitian leader is like, oh, this is going to ruin us.
I was like, bro, you live in Haiti.
But also, yeah, maybe you should have...
The state of Haiti is the Haitian's fault.
You've been independent for more than 200 years.
It's not anyone else's fault at this point.
And the Dominican Republic next door is actually quite nice, and they built a giant goddamn wall against you.
It's your own fault.
Until you start taking responsibility, then nothing's going to change.
That really is a mask-off moment or an admission of complete guilt when the Haitian guy says it'll be a catastrophe for his country.
You can't send them back here.
It's like, well, that's why we have to.
Yeah.
Well, anyway.
Yeah.
Furious Dan says, Trump, take your criminals back or 25% tariff.
Colombia, soy jack wall of text.
Trump, 75%.
No, that's fake news.
It's 50%.
But I do love, I just love how intransigent Trump is being on this.
You're going to do it.
It's real leadership.
Yeah, it is.
So I'll take all the slings and arrows.
Yeah.
Because what I'm doing is actually correct.
Yes.
So Screech, for the rest of eternity, it makes no odds.
Yeah.
Leadership.
Yeah, yeah.
Kevin thinks the Colombian president's real motivation for refusing to let the criminals back is because he knew they were breaking into the US and possibly helped them on their way.
Probably.
I mean, I think Trump is probably on something when you're saying that some South American nations were just emptying their prisons and sending them to America.
Why wouldn't you?
Sorry, the border's wide open.
Biden is helping these people get into America.
Yeah, why wouldn't you?
And so this catch and release scheme that's caught 10,000 convicted murderers and just let them into the United States.
They must have been convicted at some point.
Why wouldn't the Venezuelans or whatever release them from prison, dump them on the border and say, right, off you go?
I would like to say I've got a little bit of a vindictive streak in me.
I've said before that the people that did that, the individual people, because it always boils down to people sitting in a room making decisions about policy, wherever it was, at Homeland or wherever it is.
Those people should be held to account for their crimes.
Like the catch and release thing.
Everyone that was responsible for that should answer for what they've done.
Not just, we'll change the policy now, we're in a new age, and we'll try and make sure that doesn't happen again.
Well and good, great, of course, absolutely.
But what about accountability for the people that did it?
Because they're still here.
Yeah, well, exactly.
But, I mean, at least Trump will fire these people, right?
Trump is at least going to fire the people in charge.
So it's like, okay, that is some accountability.
It's not nearly as much as I think they should have, but that's something.
Whereas if you look at the Southport murders, okay, well, who from Prevent has been fired?
Yeah, exactly.
I want some names.
The police, the social services, you know, the schools.
Some people should be getting fired for this massive failure on the part of the institutions, right?
But no one's been fired.
No one's even talking about it.
Unless they go further, firing isn't enough.
So take, for example, South Yorkshire Police.
Oh, yeah.
No, the individual people that allowed that to go on and continue.
No one's lost their job.
Right.
All these convictions and no one's lost their jobs.
What's going on?
How can this be permitted?
But again, it's just, unfortunately, we need an effective leader in charge, which we don't have.
George says, I want to be objective about Trump, but it's really hard not to fanboy with the amount of things he's done so far.
When it comes to deportations, it made it obvious.
My timeline is between nothing but deportations.
And it's all men.
It's been made obvious that it's the most powerful and prosperous country in the world that holds most of the cards.
That move against Pedro and his crime family was an amazing political judo.
It's just so good.
It's just so good.
Personally, I... I don't want a fanboy for Trump too much.
I don't want to dunk on Farage too much because it just looks like it's all you care about, all you think about.
I know, but Trump is going so hard.
What's nice, and I swear this must be so great for the Americans, no wonder Trump is finally in a positive approval rating.
It must be so nice for Americans who are like, no, I voted for these things to happen.
And Trump's like, yeah, has it been a week?
I don't know.
Hit the ground running.
Just full bore.
Like, you'd love to see it.
I'm so jealous.
Omar says, and this is another great point, man.
Pardoning someone is one thing.
Pardoning your allies for crimes they haven't even been prosecuted for is insane.
It's like, yeah, exactly.
But they haven't been committed to anything.
Why would you pardon them?
Fauci.
Yeah, Fauci.
Yeah, the Jan 6th committee.
Like, he's like, what are you pardoning for?
You know, just explain to me the nature of the pardon, please.
Yeah, yeah.
And so, yeah.
Basically, it's a declaration of wrongdoing, but also rubbing your nose in it that there's nothing you can do about it.
At a bare minimum, that specifically must be stopped.
Yeah, I mean, you could say, look, the presidential pardon can only be used for people convicted of crimes.
At bare minimum.
But as someone pointed out, it'd need an amendment to do, so unlikely to get done.
But, I mean, it's just an admission.
It's just an admission.
Yeah, yeah, he committed a crime, so we've pardoned him.
I feel like it would be better, and I'm speaking very broadly here, it would be best for the Republic of the United States of America if they looked at the entire process of presidential pardons, for better or worse.
Because both sides, it's all well and good when your side is doing it.
But actually, in the long run, in the broad scheme of things...
It's not good.
Yeah, it's kind of obviously open to abuse.
Yeah.
And we're seeing it now.
I'm not saying that Trump is actually abusing it.
I don't think he is.
No.
I think Trump's actually being very responsible.
He's not pardoning people who haven't been convicted.
Well, actually, no.
He's pardoning people being held in remand.
But, like, people who haven't been accused or, like, you know, like, again, there's no accusation against the Jancet committee.
Nothing's happened.
And suddenly Biden's like, yeah, so they're pardoned.
It's like, what, what, what?
Oh, what?
So, anyway.
But you are right, I think.
It's definitely something that should be knocked off, basically.
Luke says, upper management of these companies are bombarded by reports that claim increasing diversity increases the amount of people who enjoy your product.
And while it's diverse, companies get a massive cash injection from ESG funds.
BlackRock, for example, it starts to look like it's real.
So yeah, that's the thing.
I think there's a lot of mysticism.
That has surrounded this.
And so you've got the browbeating.
You've got a bunch of false stats.
You've got BlackRock saying, here's however much money you need in your pockets.
Suddenly, I think you can persuade yourself into it, even if you don't really believe it.
You know what I mean?
So all I'm saying is BlackRock is worth my business.
I'm prepared to do the unpopular thing and take BlackRock money for diversity.
Wendy says, I'm loving what's happening in America.
I'm so envious.
I'm more sure than ever that our day will come.
More people are waking up and I can feel things changing.
Fingers crossed.
Keir Starmer is not going to go lightly.
He's going to try and drag it out for the entire four years left.
I don't think he's going to make it, though.
I think at some point, things will get so untenable, even though there's no legal mechanism to remove him, that everyone would just say, you've got to go.
You should just call an election.
You've screwed this up so completely that even though legally we can't remove you, no one's ever going to forgive you.
The only way to retain the dignity of your party going forward is to call the election now and take the licks.
Accept that you're going to lose 100, 200 seats, whatever it is.
Just accept it.
I'm a little surprised.
I feel like Starmer will...
We'll never leave until he's like a Ceausescu figure, until he's...
I suspect so, yeah.
I suspect so.
What I'm a little surprised at and disappointed at is how vocal and how powerful the Labour backbenchers have been in pushing back on the senior front benches of Labour.
I would have thought by now...
That they would be a thorn in Starmer's side.
They don't seem to be.
Starmer whipped his party so thoroughly when he took over it.
Now that he's in charge, they evidently are just cowed, even though I'm sure they hate what's going on.
For the time being, yeah.
The left of the Labour Party.
I thought the left of the Labour Party would be pushing back harder and more vocally than they are so far, despite the early...
Well, he kicked them out, didn't he?
He kicked out Corbyn, kicked out McDonnell, you know, kicked out, like, there were something like 100,000 Labour members.
So they lost the whip, but they're still MPs.
Sure, sure, sure.
But, like, I imagine one day they're hoping we can get back in the Labour Party.
We probably can't go too hard on it.
But we're a bit over time.
So George says, government employees who attempt to rename DEI should immediately be fired.
It shows they're enemy agents and not willing to comply with the will of the people.
Totally agree.
If you've renamed your department, out.
That's why I'd be a funny tramp.
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