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The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters #1086

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	Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
	Welcome to the podcast of Lotus Eaters for the 24th of January, 2025. It is a Friday, the best day of the week, by Josh and Stelios, and today we're going to be talking about some grim subjects, then some less grim, well, no, even more grim subjects, well, just as grim subjects, and then some good news.
	We're talking about the sentencing of Axel Rudabakana, I can't pronounce his name, the land grab in South Africa, and that the DuPont...
	And so it's not all bad news.
	So, where do we start then, Stelios?
	Right, so yesterday we had the trial of Axel Rudakobana, who is the Southport murderer.
	This is one of the worst crimes of the last years.
	I think it's just a...
	Well, to be honest with you, the Manchester Arena bombing was just horrific.
	The London Bridge attack was terrible.
	So there have been a lot.
	This is, again, just another awful, awful thing.
	I think it's particularly upsetting to people because it's specifically targeting little girls.
	You can't think of anyone more undeserving or more innocent, really.
	Yeah, so the Southport murders took place on, I think, the 29th of July, about a week.
	10 days before he turned 18 years old, and this is incredibly important for the sentencing, because he essentially is going to get 52 years, and he is going to be released after 52 years.
	But if that was committed about 10 days afterwards, that would be different, and he wouldn't be released in the sentencing.
	So this is going to be something we're going to talk about.
	Right, so...
	This Monday, he pleaded guilty.
	Before, he hadn't pled guilty.
	But this Monday, he did plead guilty.
	And let's see what he pleaded guilty for.
	Three counts of murder.
	He admitted murdering B.B. King, six-year-old, Elsie Dodd-Stancom, seven-years-old, and nine-year-old Alice da Silva Aguirre.
	And ten counts of attempted murder.
	Eight children who are not named for legal reasons.
	But also the class instructor Leanne Lucas and businessman John Hayes who tried to prevent what was going on and they were subbed multiple times.
	Right, so let's see what happened.
	I'm going to talk a bit about the sentencing and the trial yesterday and then we're going to highlight some of the important aspects.
	Here we see the victims who died.
	This is Alice De Silva-Aguila, Elsie Dodd-Stancomb, and B.B. King.
	So we have here a survivor, John Hayes, who was stabbed.
	And he says here that he was trying to help a young girl that was clearly in difficulty.
	And you see, one of the really distressing issues about this is how...
	The people who survived the attack are scarred for life, essentially, because they have been traumatised significantly.
	This guy does deserve some credit because he heard the screams and went in and tried to help them, and I think he got stabbed in the leg quite badly in doing so.
	And also when Starmer dismissed the reaction to the Southport attack, he rightfully brought up that there are legitimate concerns about immigration to be had.
	By dismissing people, you're not helping the situation, which I think is a perfectly good point.
	You're not just dismissing, they're politicising those people, calling them far-right, as if only people of an extreme disposition would be concerned about this issue.
	Exactly.
	So this shows really several layers of institutional failures.
	And one of the biggest failures in this case was why didn't people do something about it before?
	Because there were...
	There were many indications.
	Let's just see here at the 929 entry.
	They said that there were several missed opportunities to identify the risk that Rudakobana was posing to others.
	And they said that the teenager was referred three times to the government's anti-extremism program.
	After expressing interest in school shootings, the London Bridge attack, the IRA, MI5, and the Middle East, each time his case was assessed by counter-terrorist terror police, but he was not deemed a terrorist risk.
	I wonder why.
	Yep, I wonder why as well.
	But there are significant concerns about the people who are...
	In those institutions and whether they're actually focusing on the things that matter as opposed to focusing on promoting the political agenda.
	Does it mean he had a history of violence in his schools?
	I think one thing that Prevent might have...
	Kept internally and may have been seen by the likes of Starmer, which is why he included it in his speech, is that they might have dismissed him because he was a bit of a loner figure and he wasn't connected.
	Like, a lot of the groups which prevent categorises are groups of people, right, by definition, and so they might have let him slip between the cracks because he was just one person, but as we can see, one person can still do quite a lot of damage.
	Right, so about 10 minutes to 11 a.m.
	yesterday, Rudakobana arrives at court.
	They take him into the room.
	There were several members of the victims, of the families of the victims present.
	And the proceeding started around 10 to 12 noon.
	And the prosecution started laying out evidence about the murders, and they showed lots of footage about what happened, and they shared the statements from the witnesses, and it's really quite horrific to ask.
	And someone wanted to make it all about himself.
	Ruta Kubana started shouting 10 minutes after the trial started, Amil, I need to see a paramedic.
	He's basically trying it on, isn't he?
	He's appealing to the sort of safetyism culture that we have, where it's like, oh, well, you know, if he's feeling ill, maybe you should go?
	No.
	If I had my way, you feeling ill would be the least of your worries, my friend.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, so the prosecution, just ten minutes afterwards, started saying that he was found telling to the police that he's so glad that these children were dead.
	Multiple times he said how glad he was and how it was a good thing those children are dead and he was so glad and so happy after the attack.
	So he committed the attack and when the police went there and found him he was essentially saying that he was incredibly happy about it and the lack of remorse is something that carried on.
	It isn't something that he didn't even try to put up an act.
	He's shown no remorse whatsoever.
	Zero remorse.
	Well, I think there's something to be said of where his parents originate from.
	Of course, they're from Rwanda, and the Rwandan genocide was of their generation, right?
	And so, if they come from a culture and society where neighbours can hack up their neighbours with machetes, and it killed a million people, I think, in a very short space of time.
	Yeah, it's...
	One of those situations where you think, well, did they actually bring that kind of mindset, the mindset that created that sort of thing?
	The thing is, a person would say, well, they're Tootsie, so they were on the receiving end of the genocide.
	So why would they have a negative attitude and feel that empathy was something irrelevant to life?
	Yeah, but also his father was directly involved in the army.
	Yeah.
	Fighting against it, wasn't he?
	And so it may have well been, you know, these sort of tit-for-tat things going on.
	It's difficult to know yet.
	A doubtless word, but again, all we can do is speculate.
	Exactly.
	Right, so the prosecution represented CCTV footage, and they showed footage from Ruda Kubana in the cab that he took to get to the dance club.
	His entrance into the dance club and also into the dance hall where the lesson was being had.
	And within 30 seconds of him entering, the CCTV footage shows people screaming.
	He went in, he started hacking multiple times.
	Children, Leanne Lucas, the yoga instructor, literally tried to protect lots of them by covering them.
	And trying to use, essentially, herself as a protective shield.
	She was stabbed multiple times.
	Neck, arms, multiple times.
	And lots of children were also stabbed.
	Lots of them were trying to flee, and they were stabbed in the back.
	Some of them didn't make it outside.
	One of them, I think it was Elisa Aguila da Silva.
	She was stabbed.
	She managed to get out.
	She tried to get into a car, but then she was taken to hospital and she died from really heavy injuries.
	But also, what was incredibly, I will say, demonic is that there were dozens of stabbings.
	Dozens of stabbings, I think.
	It was B.B. King who was stabbed around 122 times.
	If anyone tries to imagine the scene and what happened, it's just purely scenes made out of hell.
	It's just nightmarish.
	It's just impossible to believe this could be something that happens in England.
	It's also incredibly sadistic.
	The entire point of it is to cause pain, inflict pain and also terrorize people.
	That's my view.
	Right.
	Fratuitous.
	That's the thing.
	Exactly.
	So we have here the yoga instructor.
	She felt the knife in her back and she started screaming to the children to run.
	Then we have the report people were shouting someone is stabbing the kids.
	We have here CCTV showing children screaming and fleeing the building.
	And also police CCTV footage is shown from the police entering the building and finding Ruta Kubana.
	And as they say, a lot of the two deceased victims were attacked on the floor, stabbed multiple times.
	Then at around one o'clock, 1 p.m.
	yesterday, they had a break to 2 p.m.
	After 2 p.m., the judge said, right, we are going to bring him in back into the trial room because they had threw him out.
	They found out that basically he was in good fitness and he was basically lying about his condition.
	They brought him in.
	He started shouting again.
	Again, it was about him.
	Just muzzle him.
	Yes, they threw him out for a second.
	They threw him out for a second time.
	Court resumes.
	What was he shouting?
	He was shouting that he doesn't feel well and he feels ill and he wants to see a paramedic.
	He has chest pains.
	All of it was just about himself.
	If it was my choice, he wouldn't even be able to walk, mate.
	So, you know, make yourself lucky.
	Right.
	Also, there was evidence presented by the prosecution that racing...
	Ricin was found in Tupperware in Rudakubana's bedroom, which is a deadly poison.
	It's a toxin.
	And he'd made this himself, right?
	He had made it himself.
	And the question is here, when it comes to his parents and his social circle, is how can someone construct what is essentially a weapon of biological warfare and you not knowing about it?
	His parents just don't know anything about this thing.
	Exactly.
	And I really don't understand this because there have been other suggestions and some people call it evidence.
	I don't know exactly.
	At the moment, I'm trying to be cautious that his father tried to prevent him from going to school a week before the attack.
	Yeah, I saw it like the previous Saturday or something.
	Like he tried to get into a taxi and his father had persuaded him out of it, which implies the father knew what he was trying to do and then just sat on it for a week.
	That really infuriated me because obviously, His parental influence has been, you know...
	Poor?
	Yeah, I think that's a very generous way of putting it.
	Yeah, his parents are somewhat complicit in what he's done, I would say.
	You can't breed someone like this and not be complicit.
	You've raised a monster.
	Yeah, and by extension, you have to be somewhat monstrous yourself to create a child like this.
	And I want to add to this, because we also had the previous segment where we were talking about it.
	And I think, Josh, you mentioned that even his parents should have taken him to the police, should have notified him, and they absolutely should have done, if not for any other reason for their child, because notifying, you know, it's better for your child to have a harsh punishment that prevents.
	What you suspect might happen than actually face what actually happened.
	Just, oh yeah, my child that's been reported to prevent three previous times and has a history of violence in school was trying to get into a taxi with a knife and go to a dance class to commit a stabbing and I persuaded him out of it.
	I don't need to do anything else after that.
	My job here is done.
	Good God, man.
	I just...
	Right, so it gets a bit more distressing because more than Raisin was found in his possession, he was found with the possession of an al-Qaeda training manual that said explicitly how to kill people and how to stab them in order to kill them.
	And they also found incredibly distressing images of corpses, people being tortured, Let me see exactly what it was.
	And beheadings.
	So he had images of this at his possession, and they were saying he was obsessed with killing and with genocide.
	Right, so the proceedings went on.
	We had the families of the victims and lots of survivors talking about how this has affected them.
	She's our hero, says father of surviving stabbing victim.
	We see here the...
	I think this is the dance instructor.
	She has...
	She actually saved some of those little girls' lives by what she did.
	Not exactly.
	She undoubtedly did.
	She did.
	And she feels guilty.
	She says, how can I live knowing I survived when children died?
	Passions are high and a lot of victims of trauma in these cases, they do feel guilty, but I don't think she has anything guilty about.
	It's a sign of a good person that she's even entertaining that.
	But no, if it wasn't her and it was someone else, it could have.
	It's been even worse than it was.
	And because I have a background in the issue of moral culpability and trying to establish the degree of moral culpability, I will say that it's very routine that people conflate between bad and wrong.
	And especially in cases of trauma, they think that if something bad has happened, therefore it is their fault and it is an act of their wrongdoing.
	But as far as I'm concerned, she's a hero.
	She prevented more harm from happening.
	Here we have the parents of the victims saying that it's like having children again.
	They're incredibly afraid.
	They can't forget it.
	It has scarred them.
	And we should always say that apart from victims who died, we also have victims who are alive and situations of this sort are incredibly traumatising.
	And you literally can't forget this.
	You can't forget this.
	It'd be enough to scar an adult, let alone a young child that's even more impressionable.
	And we go to...
	We have here a survivor saying he's paralyzed by panic attacks.
	It's just another child said, I thought I was going to die.
	Really, it's really horrifying.
	And they say that prosecutors can't identify terrorist cause.
	Again, what they're saying is we can't identify an ideology.
	It's like, okay, maybe he didn't have an ideology.
	Maybe he was a lunatic.
	Rudakubana's lawyer said that something changed in him at age 13. In October 29, he made a plea for help to Childline as he was struggling to manage his homicidal thought.
	And they are saying this, but we also found out that he had contacted Childline and asked, what should I do if I'm fantasizing about killing people?
	Right, so the judge begins the sentencing remarks, and according to the judge, he really wanted Ruda Kubana to not be ever released, but he said that he has to adjudicate according to existing law.
	And in this case, I think that there are also some arguments made that there is...
	An ECHR imposition that says that no person above 18 years old can be sentenced for life.
	Thank God for the ECHR. And he sentenced him to 52 years in prison.
	So he's going to be, what, 70 when he gets out.
	Exactly.
	Anyway.
	Right, so we see here the attempt by several people to try to completely...
	Divert attention from the victims into different things.
	I'm not going to play this video because I'm cautious a bit of time and also I think it's particularly distasteful.
	Oh yeah, he was saying diversity is a strength, wasn't he?
	I don't know if he said it exactly in this clip.
	He doesn't.
	That was the message.
	The message was, again, the Sky News reporter trying to say, you know, that there has been incredible misinformation about the incident.
	Sorry, before we go on, there were books found in Ridicabana's room, weren't there?
	Yes.
	Anti-British books and things like that.
	Also, it's an Al-Qaeda.
	Which is a terrorist organization.
	They were like left-wing books condemning Britain and things like that.
	Post-colonial stuff, isn't it?
	Yeah, post-colonial studies and stuff like that.
	So I think that's worth bringing up.
	Absolutely.
	Left-wing anti-British propaganda didn't help this situation.
	Absolutely.
	And what they're trying to do is they're trying to say that anyone who is introducing into this conversation an angle that highlights cultural differences is a far-right misinformer.
	That's what they try to do.
	But also, let's look at this.
	The journalist who was interviewing this person here, who was also saying, I really don't know why people thought ill of, why people would rush to give a cultural interpretation.
	She ordered her producer to cut the conversation with an interviewee after he blamed the police, politicians and institutions.
	I think all the institutions failed.
	This is worth playing.
	Look out in my mind.
	Had people done their job better in the last few years in relation to this man, those girls would still be alive.
	We look at her doing the move.
	Yes.
	Why is she protecting these institutions?
	Why shouldn't there be accountability?
	There's a cascading...
	She sees itself as part of those institutions.
	Exactly.
	There's a cascading series of failures, and the people in these institutions should be named, shamed, and fired.
	And she's like, oh no, we'll just cut the feed, cut the feed.
	No.
	No.
	It's about the quantity of the message.
	They will make several remarks.
	I think even Keir Starmer said that there has been some institutional failure in this case.
	Some, yeah.
	Yes.
	He said that there has been institutional failure, but they want to minimize it as much as possible.
	The blood is as much on their hands as anyone else is.
	And I'm sure that you saw the headlines who described him as the Amazon killer.
	Yes.
	It's the most transparent deflection tactic I've ever seen.
	It's absolutely horrific.
	Amazon is in no way culpable for this.
	Also, no one thinks that.
	We all have access to knives.
	It's not that the knife secretly whispers in my ear, stab people.
	If I go to Sainsbury's and buy a cutlery set, a kitchen knife, because I need to cut a steak or something, no one's like, oh well, Sainsbury's is now complicit.
	No, of course not.
	This is disgusting.
	Absolutely disgusting.
	You can walk into several...
	Several, let's say, shops and buy knives like these.
	And also we have here a Telegraph article saying that Amazon driver said that the recipient was over 25. Parents could have received the package for him.
	Right, so here we have an article.
	Again, a parental failure.
	Why is my son, who's 17, getting a package delivered that requires me to be 25?
	Again, yet another parental failure.
	Here we have an article talking about Leanne Lucas.
	Everyone who wants, just click on our website, on our reading list and read it.
	Here we have the MP for Southport saying that he thinks that the penalty isn't severe enough.
	And a lot of people have started talking about this and they say that this is a transparent failure of justice and a transparent failure of the justice system.
	And we had several people even calling for the death penalty to be reinstated, such as...
	Yeah, myself, yeah.
	Everyone I know.
	Rupert Lowe and Lee Anderson.
	Yeah, good for them.
	Because they're completely correct.
	And this is the most classically English view of injustice as well.
	The abolition of the death penalty was done by the son of a Romanian immigrant in the 60s.
	This isn't the way the English look at justice.
	This is a continental view of justice.
	It's also still popular with the public as well.
	More than half of the public are just blanket in favour of the restoration of the death penalty.
	And that goes up to about 60% when you just say, what about for child murderers?
	People go, oh yeah, those people.
	Yeah, absolutely, it should be brought back.
	I do accept some arguments that say that the death penalty is wrong in several cases and that there is the possibility of error.
	But in this case, I don't think there is any room for error because we have footage of what happened.
	Well, that's the point, isn't it?
	I hate this, oh, well, what about if you've got the wrong person?
	It's like, okay, but what about if we don't?
	If we're not sure, if we can't infallibly rule it out, then we won't use it.
	But if we can...
	Then we will.
	Exactly.
	He's a pretty distinct person.
	You're not going to get it wrong.
	Sorry to tell you.
	Exactly.
	I mean, he was literally caught in the act.
	There's unbelievable amounts of DNA evidence, video footage.
	It can't have been someone else.
	Exactly.
	And we need to bear in mind, and also we need to point out, that some of the classic examples that have been given in order to argue against the death penalty...
	Have to do with false incarceration and DNA evidence that was used years or sometimes decades afterwards to show that people weren't actually involved in crime.
	But there wasn't CCTV footage showing them committing the crime.
	I mean, the Lee Rigby killers are another great example.
	It's like they stand around in the street with the blood on their hands and the knives on their hands saying, look, this is why we did this for Islam or whatever.
	It's like, OK, well, then there's just no doubt it can't have been anyone else but them.
	Well, then we can use the death penalty.
	And we need to also bear in mind that there is a very ridiculous soft view when it comes to justice that tries to present the possibility of rehabilitation as being universal.
	Some people cannot be rehabilitated.
	With some people we can argue with and reason with.
	Some people sometimes...
	May he get a second chance and actually honour it, but some people demonstrably don't deserve it.
	Some people don't deserve mercy either.
	And also, it's not really justice that the taxpayer has to keep him under lock and key for over 50 years.
	So that's going to be about £50,000 a year to keep a prisoner, which is more than the average salary.
	Way more.
	This whole thing just infuriates me.
	Can I have the mouse, please?
	Yes, of course.
	Should we read any?
	Yeah, we've got a bunch.
	That's a random name.
	The name says, the only reason I'm against the death penalty is because the title is on me.
	You use it against political dissonance.
	That's not true.
	Honestly, that's a very hysterical and hyperbolic approach to considering the subject.
	But this is not going to be the case.
	Carl, will you do a long-form piece, debate or direct camera, whatever, on the history of the death penalty?
	How it was subverted and why it must be part of British law again?
	I can actually do that, because I read a book about the death penalty.
	That's a good idea as well.
	Yeah.
	I reckon people would listen to you.
	Yeah, I mean, it was literally a foreign communist, or the son of a foreign communist, who was parachuted into a Labour safe seat, who campaigned on it in 1964, something like that.
	Then it was the Labour government decided, yeah, why not?
	And after that, this is where the Moors murderers weren't put to death, when, I mean, never a more deserving person, a couple, should have had it.
	And the thing is, there are books before that as well, of Dutch professors, various European professors being like, oh, the English is still so savage, because they have the death penalty.
	It's like, are we, though?
	Anyway, Inexio says, the death penalty is only a problem if the evidence isn't strong enough.
	Yeah, well, the thing is, if the evidence isn't strong enough, you don't apply the death penalty.
	It's actually a really easy conundrum to solve, isn't it?
	You say, well, can we be infallibly sure that it's this person?
	And if the answer to that is no, you say, okay, well, then just life imprisonment or something, you know?
	Well, so you can keep them in prison, and then there could be new techniques developed or new evidence emerges, and then you can say, actually, you know what?
	But it also raises more questions.
	Like, okay, if you're not sure it's this guy, why are you even locking him up in the first place then?
	You know, suddenly if we've got this unbelievably high standard of evidence, kind of undermines the nature of the other justice that we...
	The irony is that they will say because we care about the public sentiment of morality.
	Yeah, that's true.
	Anyway...
	In that case, that's what they were saying.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Trash like Axel would be the perfect candidate for 40k servitorism.
	Jail is no justice.
	Well, this is the thing, about rehabilitation.
	Some people commit acts that are just so far beyond the pale.
	Why would we want to rehab?
	Yeah, they do not deserve it.
	Exactly, that would imply that you were entitled, like, I feel ill.
	Man, I would have had you flogged for days before you were dragged in front of the court.
	You feeling ill would have been the least of your worries.
	I hate this case so much.
	Prevent and child safeguarding focuses on the far right, even listing being white as a factor.
	Left and Islamic terror gets no such depth in teaching.
	Do prevent online training to see the bias, yeah.
	I read all of the impact statements and encourage everyone else to do so.
	We must stare this even in the face as to steel ourselves and grant us the righteous indignation to do what must be done.
	Yes, indeed.
	Let's move on to South Africa.
	What's going on there?
	So...
	If you thought things for white South Africans couldn't get any worse, well, you were wrong, because the land expropriation has gone even further.
	And this story starts with the 2024 South African general election, at least as far as I'm aware.
	So this was held in May of 2024, and it was significant because the ANC had remained the largest party but lost the parliamentary majority that it had since it held The first post-apartheid election in 1994. And so this was a significant signal that people were getting a little bit fed up of the ANC, the African National Congress, the party of Nelson Mandela, who was a terrorist.
	And the fact that they've not been able to even maintain the pre-apartheid infrastructure and people have been suffering with power cuts, water shortages, just basic infrastructural things that worked before they took charge.
	It has made people lose faith in them, even amongst their black supporters.
	They've been going to other parties.
	There's also this split with Jacob Zuma, who we can see came third, only six months after launching his new party, because he was former ANC himself.
	I think Zulus in particular like him, because I think he is Zulu.
	I'm not entirely sure.
	But that's not the focus here.
	The focus is the fact that they passed this law.
	Can you see where Julius Malema came there?
	One and a half million votes.
	Scary, isn't it?
	On what is just an openly pro-genocide platform?
	Yeah, the EFF are communists that want to kill...
	Race communists who want to eradicate white people.
	Are these the commies that shout death to the white man?
	Kill the boa.
	They do their stupid little dance about killing white people.
	It's like, Jesus Christ, how can you live in a country with that?
	A million and a half votes.
	Thanks.
	It's nearly 10% of the vote.
	There's a lesson here, isn't there?
	If you're a white minority, your prospects aren't the best, are they?
	So it's worth mentioning as well, because people will point it out in the comments, if I don't, that two days before the bill was passed into law, can you guess where Cyril Ramaphosa was?
	Well, he was at the World Economic Forum.
	Do I think these two things are linked?
	I actually don't think they're linked, because it...
	It would take a long time to write this law out, and I don't think they would have done it in the two days.
	The point is, he's part of the global push for social justice.
	Exactly.
	The World Economic Forum agrees with which is why he was there.
	They don't have to be puppeteering or something.
	No, they already agree on everything.
	Well, as with many things in post-colonial Africa, the global consensus has basically overseen a lot of human suffering and greenlit it because it's some sort of release valve for the frustrations of the colonial era.
	which I don't see as just because it's...
	Not exactly holding the same people accountable, even if they deserve to be in the first place.
	It shows us that the people of Africa agree that collective justice is appropriate and applicable, and they're going to enact it, which is what they're doing right now.
	Yeah, they don't have this view, more common in Europe, that the individuals in question should be punished.
	It's just your group against mine.
	And that's basically a history of African politics for thousands of years.
	Here is a description of the bill, and I'm going to read from this, because it's sort of got all the nuts and bolts and the important stuff, as well as a statement from Ramaphosa himself, and it's not too long.
	It says, the bill repeals the Apartheid-era Expropriation Act of 1975, and that act sets out free requirements that must be met for an expropriation to be constitutionally permissible.
	And that ties into section 25 as well of the Constitution, which recognises expropriations as essential, and so basically it's just trying to expand the legal ability to expropriate land.
	Yeah, section 25 of the Constitution recognizes expropriation as an essential mechanism for the state to acquire someone's property for a public purpose or in the public interest.
	Which means that people in South Africa basically don't have property rights.
	If the government wants your stuff, they can take it off you and they don't really need...
	They can just say it's in the public interest, which is...
	For the greater good.
	Yeah, it's subjective enough that it could mean anything, couldn't it?
	And it says, this is subject to just an equitable compensation being paid.
	That word in particular, equitable, is always interesting, isn't it?
	Equitable quite often means whatever is in a non-white person's interest, funnily enough.
	And it carries on to say...
	What they think is fair.
	Exactly.
	Which often means taking someone else's things, which is not fair.
	It's literally what this is, just theft.
	It is theft, yeah.
	And it says, the bill outlines how the president can expropriate land on what basis.
	And this is a direct quote here.
	This law will assist all organs of state, local, provincial and national authorities to expropriate land in the public interest for varied reasons.
	Local, provincial, national authorities will use this legislation to expropriate land in the public interest that seek, among others, to promote inclusivity and access to natural resources.
	So for social justice, we're going to steal your property.
	Yeah, for the black majority, they can take the white minority's stuff.
	So this teaches us that it's not about being a minority in a foreign country, because when whites are a minority in a black majority country, they are far more willing to persecute people and take their things nakedly.
	And I want to ask you something because you showed the WEF and also there is the International Court of Justice.
	How worried are they about the chanting to kill the boy?
	Well, they've not addressed that.
	Because usually the rhetoric goes like this.
	When a group begins to be demonized, that's the beginning of, you know...
	Of the road to hell.
	Are they alarmed in this case, though?
	Because they seem to be constantly alarmed everywhere else in the world, whether it actually happens or not.
	But are they alarmed here?
	Well, I think that when it happens to white people, the global view is it's okay.
	And also, Cyril Ramaphosa's only concern about the EFF and things like that is that it damages public perception outside of South Africa.
	It's probably his voters as well.
	Potentially.
	He doesn't want to alienate the people saying these things because they could...
	Melima has probably stolen the most radical fringe of his past.
	Exactly.
	Which happens to be a million and a half people.
	It's worth mentioning as well, the ANC had a paramilitary wing, which Nelson Mandela was ahead of.
	Also, his wife Winnie Mandela talked about necklacing the whites, which means soaking a tyre in gasoline and putting it over them and setting it on fire.
	How this man has a statue in Parliament Square, I do not know.
	He's a monster.
	As are all members of the ANC. And, yeah, I think they're only concerned about it in so much as it could damage their interests, in that they want tourists, they want international investment, and so they don't want to be seen as this country that's...
	Why would you go to South Africa as a tourist?
	I think you made a good point about this.
	These are the opening stages of a genocide, though.
	Well, it's already sort of begun, really.
	Historically demonstrated.
	Yeah, the legal...
	Well-established.
	The expropriation of the property, the demonisation.
	I mean, this is like Radio Rwanda on steroids.
	Yeah, the farmstead murders are already the beginning of this, though, because they're going unpunished, and you can basically kill a white farmer and take their land, and the state won't do anything about it.
	It's funny, that, isn't it?
	It's almost like they're just trying to keep an air of presentability when actually they tacitly support what's going on.
	They're not doing anything about it.
	It's clearly the case.
	It's obviously the case.
	And it carries on to say, They're not doing it arbitrarily, then.
	Well, this is one of those things where they add it to make it look like it's...
	I trust their interpretation.
	Yeah, they're presenting it as if to say, well, we're not going to be tyrants with this, even though the intended intention, if you will, is very clear.
	But what is really interesting is that all of it is framed in a language that addresses a Western audience.
	Yes.
	Absolutely.
	It's like entering a class in critical theory.
	At a university.
	An Ivy League university.
	They're not stupid.
	They know what they're doing.
	They know that if they would just say, yeah, we hate whites and we're going to kill them all, well, you get kind of treated like Julius Malema.
	So it carries on to say that if an expropriation cannot be exercised unless the expropriating authority has failed to reach an agreement with the owner or holder of a right in property on reasonable terms.
	What reasonable terms are, of course, are going to be set by the government, and so I doubt the whole process will be reasonable.
	It'll basically be, take this offer that's a lowball, or else, I imagine.
	There are so many things here as well.
	It's like, okay, we've got the individual negotiating with the state, so there's a massive and dramatic power imbalance.
	And that's under the assumption, like, imagine if it was the British state doing this.
	It'd be like, okay.
	Well, I'll try and afford a lawyer.
	They're going to have much better and much more expensive lawyers than me, and they're going to have many more of them.
	This is going to be a long, difficult, drawn-out thing.
	And sympathetic courts.
	Yeah, and the courts might be sympathetic, etc., etc.
	And that assumes a minimal level of corruption.
	As in, I expect fairly fair dealings with the courts and the state, but now if you're going to a country where bribery is just the most common way to get things done, I don't...
	See how we could look at that and go, right, that's just going to be some jumped-up government bureaucrat strong-arming people out of their property.
	How could it be anything else?
	Well, a government bureaucrat could walk past someone's house and think, oh, I like the look of that.
	Yeah, Chavez style.
	Yeah, the next day they can just take it.
	And it carries on to say, the law also states that disputes be referred for mediation or to appropriate courts, and a government of national unity members, including the DA and VF +, attempted to limit the bill, Bills reach by making the regulations only apply to state-owned land, but this did not succeed, which would have been a bit more reasonable.
	And then it carries on, but I think that's enough.
	And it's worth mentioning as well, this is all the way back in...
	Oh, I don't know why that's there.
	But basically I had a link here of Peter Grunewald.
	In 2017 saying, if anybody thinks in South Africa that you can take land without compensation, you're living in a dream.
	Let's put it quite frankly to you, if you want to start a civil war in South Africa, do that.
	And I don't blame him.
	Because, of course, the areas of South Africa that actually work and actually have infrastructure tend to be...
	These more white separatist areas, like Irania, which has received lots of attention from various people that have tried to visit it as some sort of weird tourist destination, like this last holdout of apartheid.
	But what it actually is, is people whose ancestors helped build South Africa and make it a prosperous nation feel like they shouldn't flee from people tyrannising them, and I've got to respect it, and I don't blame them for wanting to build their own town, because look at how the state treats them.
	I mean, at the end of the day, if the state is literally going to say, I mean, it's literally racist against the white minority.
	I don't know how else...
	Explicitly, yeah.
	I don't know how else...
	Yeah, exactly.
	It is explicitly racist against the white minority, and the state, the grace of the state always cuts in that direction.
	Are we going to investigate farm murders?
	No.
	Are we going to tax...
	You know, who pays tax in South Africa?
	You know, the majority are beneficiaries of government.
	Whereas the whites are, of course, the majority taxpayers.
	The appropriations, everything else, it always cuts in one way towards the genocidal perspective.
	Socialists can never do long-term perspective.
	Of course not.
	There were lots of articles saying, oh, expropriation, don't be alarmed, courts may award nil compensation, but is not required to.
	How is that allowed?
	Yeah.
	I mean, obviously we know how it's allowed, but it's just mad.
	And then things like this, the one reason not to panic about South Africa's new land expropriation.
	Okay, well, since all the media are saying, hey, don't worry about this, this is something you really need to be worried about.
	It was a play, it was a play.
	When they were shouting, kill the white man, it was a play.
	Yeah, well, no, they literally said that.
	There were articles saying, well, look, let's explain what that actually means.
	I think I got the message.
	So lots of people have obviously been very upset about this in South Africa, and lots of people have been comparing it to Zimbabwe, you can see there.
	Which is fair.
	Here, I like this guy's YouTube channel, Zimbabwe 2.0, he says.
	He's got a big YouTube channel.
	He talks about mainly China, but also South Africa.
	Pretty good authority on those things.
	Here's another one as well.
	We're all Rhodesians now.
	Another sort of example.
	Loads of people are seeing the writing on the wall here because, as we'll be looking at in a second, there is a lesson to be learnt here.
	There's also this one lady who's...
	She frequently has really good posts.
	She's part of the Mises Institute, which took me by surprise.
	Communist fees and murderers is all they are.
	Bantus are intent on stealing the boar's farms.
	Bantus cannot get the land back because it was never theirs in the first place.
	They're from the Congo.
	They just feel all the land in South Africa is theirs because they're black.
	That's true.
	You can say that.
	No, no, no, that's demonstrably true.
	The Boas were in South Africa before the Bantu migration.
	There were other pastoral nomads and stuff, but they weren't the same ethnic group.
	Yeah, a lot of them moved to South Africa from other areas.
	It's also worth mentioning as well that the Bantus are originally indigenous, quote-unquote, from East Africa.
	Cameroon, Nigeria, Ghana.
	Central sort of band.
	They were not from South Africa.
	They actually migrated to the Congo in the Bantu expansion, so they're not even native to there.
	So that's something worth pointing out.
	And another thing is this.
	Oh, really?
	So, just have a little side track, I suppose we can call it.
	To talk about Rhodesia, because this is the lesson of this whole thing.
	So Rhodesia, when it existed, had the highest living standards for both blacks and whites in all of Africa.
	I would argue the living standards were probably higher then than they are now in modern-day Zimbabwe.
	And it became independent from Britain in 1965 when it was requested to transition to black-majority rule, and they argued that the country wasn't ready yet and sought to delay it.
	And then communist-backed insurgents bombarded the country.
	Black nationalists, they're called.
	But they were funded by the USSR and began doing this from 1964 onwards.
	And then by 1978, Prime Minister Ian Smith conceded to majority rule, basically because of war weariness and the diplomatic pressure and trade embargo placed on them.
	It's because they had very little fuel, very little ammunition, because for some reason Britain and the United States decided, yeah, what we need to do is strangle this country to death.
	We betrayed them, basically.
	Yes, we did.
	1979, Rhodesia was renamed Zimbabwe, and then in 1980 there were land reforms, much like this, where they basically took land from ethnic Europeans and gave it to Africans, is what happened.
	And then we can see the consequences of this.
	It took about 20 years, but then from around the year 2000, mass famine started breaking out.
	Why is that?
	Because all of the productive farms had been handed to people who didn't own farms previously and couldn't run them.
	And this one is from 2019. On the verge of man-made starvation, even The Guardian admitted this, that it's man-made and it's because of their mismanagement.
	Let's look at the World Food Programme here.
	42% of Zimbabwe's population lives in extreme poverty.
	26.7% of children have stunted growth.
	This is, of course, going from...
	Say, 30, 40 years ago, having the highest living standards in all of Africa.
	And then we go to, within the past year, 2.7 million Zimbabweans need food aid as El Nino compounds a drought crisis because they haven't figured out how to deal with irrigation and things like that.
	And this was January of 2024, so just over a year ago, sorry.
	And then finally, what they've actually had to resort to Which is quite grim, really, is they're killing wild animals.
	They had to kill 200 elephants to feed communities because they're incapable of sustaining the population by growing their own food.
	Which is really sad that they have to kill elephants, basically, which you'd think you'd want to protect.
	But there we go.
	And there are lots of other animals being killed as well.
	So it's got to the point that they went from the richest country in Africa per capita to one of the poorest.
	By doing this thing.
	And that's directly...
	Even the Guardian acknowledges it was a man-made famine.
	And so it's unquestionable what's going to happen here.
	And it was done in the name of the common good.
	And what I think is going on here is that ANC is trying to appeal to their base once more and say, see, see, we're appealing...
	We are perskeying the whites.
	You can vote for us.
	Exactly.
	And what it is, is it's short-term thinking on their behalf because, of course, it may win them votes at the next election, but 20 years down the line they're not going to have a country because they're not going to be able to feed themselves because...
	Those people are some of the most productive people in South Africa.
	And if you target them, you're only going to harm yourself in the end.
	Yeah, everyone's going to leave and the standard of your civilization will decline.
	It's just what's going to happen.
	Anyway, Bobabad says, I used to work with a boa here stateside.
	He showed me Mandela's widow's new husband singing a rap song about machine gunning the boas.
	A really nasty rhetoric going on for decades.
	Gay race communism.
	Yeah, it's been something they're not shy about.
	They just call for genocide, and then Western media covers up for them.
	Cranky Texan says, this sounds so familiar.
	I feel like something similar happened in Germany in the last century.
	I can't quite place it.
	Yes, and Sigilstone says, rocks drift, did nothing wrong.
	Well, the Zulus aren't the ones doing this, are they?
	The Zulus are actually...
	They're pretty based, actually.
	The Zulus are supporting Zuma, who's anti-ANC. I mean, they have their own agenda to a certain extent, but also, the last Zulu king...
	Actually said he preferred it under apartheid and the whites helped us much more than they hurt us and we should learn from them rather than persecuting them.
	They're not just like the white-hating lunatics.
	I don't know if the new Zulu king is like that, but at least the old one that could remember what it was like.
	The Zulu is honestly, whenever you read about them, it's like, okay, they don't sound bad, really.
	These are not the guys who are the problem.
	You know, it's definitely there are other people who are the problem.
	But anyway, let's move on.
	So, that was all bad news.
	And none of it was good.
	Very depressing in many ways.
	And it's Friday.
	And I don't want us to go off on Friday afternoon miserable and upset for the weekend.
	So I do have some good news.
	And that's that the deportations have begun.
	Tom Homan was not wasting any more time.
	As soon as Trump got in, he started getting on with it.
	And he pointed out that he's going to start deporting the worst people first.
	And Fox News have got...
	I like how you're saying that.
	And on the thumbnail, it says, I'm not going back to Haiti.
	What are you trying to say?
	Illegal alien with 17 violent convictions.
	Alright, fair enough.
	Don't need to convince me.
	They are literally targeting...
	Because, I mean, remember, across the border during Biden's tenure, 10,000 convicted murderers have been caught and released into the United States.
	Which 17 domestic animals did he eat?
	Well, who knows?
	But I thought we'd watch this.
	This is very amusing.
	I'm not going back to Haiti.
	One of those threats is this illegal alien from Haiti.
	Ice says he's a gang member with 17 criminal convictions in recent years.
	You feel me?
	You're biting forever, bro.
	Thank you for everything that he did for me, bro.
	Now, I think this is wonderful.
	Yep.
	F Trump.
	Yeah, you don't like Trump because he's getting rid of this violent gang member with 17 different convictions.
	But thank you, Biden and Obama.
	This is a PR gift for Trump.
	It is incredible.
	Trump should be posting this everywhere.
	He should be paying for adverts with this guy.
	Just like F Trump, you know, love Biden and Obama.
	Thank you for everything you did for me.
	It's just a PR gift.
	Haitian criminals love Biden.
	And Obama for everything they did for it.
	It's like, right, why were they bringing in Haitian criminals?
	Why were they giving aid and sucker to foreign criminals?
	And why does it take Trump to be like, no, just get out?
	Also, if you're going to have immigration, Haiti, of all the places, I mean, even...
	Dominican Republic, who borders them, tries to avoid that.
	I mean, yeah, well, absolutely.
	You remember they had Haitian gangs raiding, where was it, Minnesota or something?
	It was somewhere like, really, why are Haitians there?
	Why are there gangs taking over?
	Oh, it was Springfield, Ohio.
	Oh, it was Ohio, right, yeah.
	It was like, Ohio?
	Why would there be Haitian gangs there?
	Well, you can thank Biden and Obama.
	Thank them for everything they did for the Haitian gangs.
	It's like, okay, well, no sympathy from me, and no sympathy from Tom Homan either.
	Because he had a response to this.
	I'm not going back to Haiti.
	Well, he's wrong.
	he's going back to Haiti.
	Just tell me, the least merciful deportation supervisor.
	He said...
	I like this guy.
	Yeah, I love him so much.
	Like, when, you know, some reporter was like, well, how are you going to stop families from being deported?
	He was like, we'll deport the whole family.
	And I was like, well, that's a checkmate there, isn't it?
	You know, that meme where it's just like, Jesus, I've seen what you've done for other people.
	Can you do that for me?
	Oh, yeah.
	Newsmax are running a deportation tracker.
	Like, the COVID death tracker, but good.
	Like, 308 in day one.
	That's a start.
	To be fair.
	If I ever become Prime Minister, I'm just going to have a big board behind me in every announcement, just the number of people I've made leave.
	Yeah, number of foreigners deported.
	But this, it was 308 at that point, but 1,300 arrests on the first day, over 1,000 of them being criminals.
	I mean, that is just what a superb start.
	Again, 1,000 on the first day.
	Obviously, there were lots of people online being like, oh, he's not going to do anything.
	Have the deportation...
	There's a tweet of Nick Fuentes going, have the deportation started yet?
	A moment after, a news network had tweeted, yeah, deportation's already gone.
	It's like, yes, get in.
	To be fair, if it's 1,300 people, that's, what, about...
	A day?
	That's pretty good.
	Under 400,000 a year.
	And so...
	You actually need the numbers, ideally, to be in the millions a year to actually get a handle on the problem with the legals.
	You've got to ramp up the infrastructure.
	That's true.
	Warming up.
	Exactly.
	Day one, we've got whatever already exists.
	We haven't got time to recruit or get anything.
	We sort of want a snowball effect.
	Exactly.
	The more they're going to recruit...
	There was a post by AOC saying that even if you're here illegally, know that they can't do this without judicial warrant.
	Turns out they can.
	And good.
	And it turns out that nowhere is off limits.
	And so you have illegals in American communities, who seem to be full of illegals, being like, oh, well, we're a bit worried about this.
	And then, of course, you've got British media, in this case, covering them.
	Trump and his team is to allow immigration officials to carry out raids in churches and hospitals and schools.
	Those were protected areas under Joe Biden, but now the message is loud and clear.
	Anywhere you are, the state can come after you.
	Nowhere is safe.
	Nowhere is safe is...
	For you to break the law.
	That would be an excellent campaign slogan.
	You're an illegal nowhere is safe.
	So that's pretty good.
	Again, a lot of people are like, oh, Donald Trump's not really good.
	No, it looks like he's really serious about this.
	I hope so.
	There's probably something like...
	20 to 30 million illegal immigrants in America.
	And so it's like, no, they're not hiding in church.
	They're not hiding anywhere.
	They're not hiding in schools.
	They're going.
	What's implicit in that is that they should be allowed to have hiding spots like a children's game.
	Just like, oh, I'm in the no deportation zone.
	You can't get me in here.
	Yeah, it's like I'm hiding from a vampire in a church or something.
	Well, you can't come onto holy ground.
	You know, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	No, no, no.
	These are all criminals.
	I mean, every illegal immigrant is by definition a criminal, but a lot of them are also violent criminals, which is what Tom Homer was like.
	No, we're just going to get the worst of them out first, then the rest of them.
	Why would illegal immigrants be hiding in schools anyway?
	That's a weird thing.
	Great question.
	Great question.
	You're going to be, you know, eating your food and then in the mashed potato as a Haitian.
	And the thing is, okay, well, you know, America's a big place.
	You're going to need, imagine the level of, like, bureaucracy you'll need.
	It's like, yeah, or you could just put out a bounty and you could say, look, if you help us identify and get rid of an illegal immigrant, we'll give you a thousand dollar reward for your successful one.
	And people are like, but isn't that going to cost loads of money?
	It's like, don't care, worth every penny.
	Carl, I'm feeling like a holiday.
	I'm feeling very bountiful today.
	I feel like I could go to Mississippi and leave a richer man than I started and love every minute of it.
	All I'm saying is, if you're in Mississippi and this has alerted you to a good service that you can perform, come and sign up to lotuses.com when you get your bounty.
	And just leave us a comment saying, thanks a lot, guys.
	You really helped me with that.
	I'd really appreciate it.
	They're going home.
	That's just it.
	They're going home.
	And this is so good.
	Again, just offering actual rewards to people.
	No, that's a legal immigrant who lives there.
	He's running drugs or whatever it is.
	Get rid of him.
	Good.
	Absolutely get rid of him.
	And so you've got the other side of the story now, because of course the British media is doing everything they can.
	It's not just the British media either.
	But migrants stay at home as people live in fear of Trump's mass deportation threats.
	Good.
	Well, that's because they shouldn't be here.
	That's because they shouldn't be in your goddamn country.
	This whole thing is...
	They've interviewed, under a condition of anonymity, just some man who broke into the country.
	They don't know what he does.
	They don't know what crimes he's committed.
	He looks like the Grim Reaper.
	I think it's because he's in the shadow there.
	But you see on the news all the time, undocumented, illegal, and you realise that's you.
	No, I don't realise that.
	I didn't break into someone else's country.
	I didn't...
	Like, I didn't literally commit a crime to go and live where I am.
	So no, I would be like, oh good, get rid of them, you know?
	Also, should we even care?
	Like, illegals have been making actual American citizens scared.
	Now the shoe's on the other foot, we're meant to feel sympathetic.
	I don't.
	Not one bit.
	Every single one of you should be turfed out of America.
	I love this, though.
	He's an African migrant fleeing political persecution in a country he doesn't want us to name.
	So was he part of a government that was recently overthrown or something?
	Like, what did he do?
	I'm not going to pretend that someone in Africa who's fleeing political persecution is someone who's never done anything wrong.
	He wants his words to count.
	He wants his worst account.
	He wants, like, maybe it will help others.
	They know they're not alone.
	It's like, hopefully, they're not alone, and so Tom can round them all up.
	Before Trump came in, they were having illegal immigrant protests.
	It's like, yeah, no, go and do that.
	Go out and do a mass, you know, 10,000 of you in the street.
	Makes it very easy.
	Exactly.
	It'll save Tom so much time.
	Get them all in one big swoop.
	Absolutely.
	But there's also the notion of, does anyone from Africa, you know, like, if If no one had any complaints in Africa, they would have found a little slice of utopia.
	All of Africa has these sorts of problems.
	Africa would be empty if we took them all seriously.
	Franklin has not committed a crime, violent or otherwise.
	How would you know?
	Did you ask him?
	Oh, have you committed a crime?
	He's like, no, of course not.
	I mean, apart from breaking into the country.
	That is a crime, yeah.
	We're just going to assume that he's telling the truth?
	What did you do?
	Look up his criminal record or something?
	Come on.
	Come on, this is so embarrassing.
	That we would be on the wrong side of this.
	And of course, Britain is on the wrong side of this.
	But yeah, so the signal flare has gone out.
	The bat signal is up.
	The Tom Homan signal is up.
	And, you know, it's not just the people in America who can see it.
	They're like, great.
	Hello, Missouri DA. Yeah, there's one who lives across the road from me.
	Yeah, that'll be a thousand bucks.
	Thanks very much.
	It's not just them.
	It's also the illegals themselves, right?
	Who are like, oh, the gravy train is over.
	I can't just break into someone's country and set up a life for myself and claim benefits and do this and do that.
	Take, you know, cheap jobs and whatever.
	Oh, I'm actually going to have to go home.
	Well, there's nothing worse than being deported to where you came from, apparently.
	But apparently many of them are heading home.
	So people have noticed that the roads heading back to Mexico are utterly jammed with people carrying loads of luggage.
	Look how packed the bags are in that.
	Yes, go home.
	And you can just drive yourself back.
	That's the thing.
	Like this whole, oh, I'm a refugee.
	No, no, you're not.
	What you're doing, you're on the make.
	This was all about you being on the make.
	You just thought, I can make money in America.
	I can get stuff.
	And then when the Americans turn around and go, you know what?
	It's time for you to leave.
	You pack your bags and you go.
	It's just simple as that.
	And everyone can see it.
	Everyone can see it.
	And Mexico is apparently going to be accepting a lot of non-Mexicans, actually.
	Let's watch this little report.
	Some migrants are already choosing to leave the country voluntarily.
	I've been self-deported.
	Jorge, how many migrants are we actually seeing doing this, leaving voluntarily?
	So just the thing, he says thousands, but this was before the election.
	So they saw it coming, they were like, yeah, look, are we going to wait for them to drag us out?
	No, that would be stupid.
	Let's just go.
	And so that's the point.
	When the state...
	Makes it clear to the country that they will not be tolerating illegal immigrants.
	A large percentage of them go, right, okay, well, the gravy train's over, I'm just going to go back to where I came from.
	So you don't even need to manually grab every single one and drag them out by their fingernails and throw them across a border.
	A lot of them will voluntarily go.
	And the reason that they are here is permissiveness.
	They know that we're a soft touch.
	We, collectively, the West, have been a soft touch up until this point.
	And as soon as Donald Trump's like, right, that's over, get out, well, they start going.
	Brilliant.
	That's how it should be.
	If you didn't come to the country legally...
	Piss off.
	I'm so happy for Americans here.
	I know.
	You've finally got a big win here.
	I know.
	And your country is going to be tangibly better from this.
	Yeah, literally, there is no downside to this.
	Oh, no, sorry, the downside is you'll probably have to pay, like, another 50 cents on strawberries in the supermarket or something like that.
	Maybe not even that, because also there's less consumption, isn't there?
	Well, that is true, and also robots can just start picking things as well.
	But, sorry, did you want to say something?
	No, no, no.
	So, basically, there's no downside.
	Crime's going to go down.
	The number of illegal aliens who are violent criminals is going to be massively down, which is going to make your life so much better.
	Then you've got lots of people who were not happy about this because, I mean, they broke into your country for their own benefit.
	So let's watch this.
	We came here because she wanted a better life for us.
	She wanted a better education for us.
	She wanted us to have a better future.
	And now, now this is all going to be taken away because of him.
	Because of that stupid, stupid, oh my God.
	Stupid fucking felon.
	He's a felon.
	A fweller deporter.
	Right, so when you break into someone's country and you set up a life for yourself, and undoubtedly she's probably a single mother.
	She's probably claiming some sort of benefits.
	So you are essentially some kind of thief, right?
	You are stealing the ability to...
	You're stealing prosperity from someone.
	You didn't contribute to that.
	You weren't legally invited to it.
	And so you are exploiting the American people.
	You go and you see what they have.
	I'm going to sneak my way in and I'm going to take some of it too.
	So you are exploiting the American people.
	And again, do we think that she's a net taxpayer?
	No.
	Probably not, right?
	And so she's angry.
	She's angry that she's caught exploiting and now, oh, why didn't I get legal censure?
	Why didn't I just do it the right way?
	No, you wanted material gain.
	And she literally says, I was coming for a better life.
	It's like, okay, not our problem.
	Piss off and go home.
	Yeah, you make the American people's life worse.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I'm stealing some prosperity and security from you.
	America isn't your land of entitlement.
	The American people have a right to have a border.
	And then she carries on like this.
	Yeah, and again!
	I'm not coming back!
	I'm never coming back!
	Basically, what she says is, I'm not coming back until he's gone.
	It's like, that's just an incentive to make sure that Donald Trump can serve a third term, isn't it?
	I really like him.
	You don't need to sell him.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Anyway, so lots of them who are just crying at the border.
	Oh, this one was excellent.
	Yeah.
	What's happened to the sound, Samson?
	Oh, here we go.
	Hi.
	Your own selfish aspirations at the expense of other people and no more.
	How terrible.
	I got in my car.
	I drove over to the Cotswolds.
	I found this guy with a massive mansion, man.
	He had a huge mansion.
	I stood outside of it.
	I banged on the door.
	Let me in.
	He said, no, piss off.
	I clapped the floor and I cried.
	It's like, that's literally what's happening here.
	You are not in any way entitled to going to the...
	Go home!
	In other videos, she's like, what am I going to do now?
	You're going to go home.
	Make your own country better.
	Yeah, you're going to go back to where you came from because you're not welcome in the United States.
	That's why you're on the outside and they didn't let you in.
	You know, and one of the things as well, Biden, of course, had an app to help illegals get into the country, literally to help people break into the goddamn country, and that stopped working on day one.
	So, you know, Trump's obviously sent someone into that office, and that guy's like, right, off now.
	Also, I would like to point out how there are, like, multiple people filming her, and she's perfectly positioned.
	Yeah.
	To weep in the most strategic way possible.
	They know that they're trying to pull the heartstrings.
	But it's like, no, you came from somewhere.
	I mean, she's quite old as well, so it's not like, oh, you know, I'm young, I'm lost.
	It's like, no, no, you knew what you were doing.
	You have an established life back where you came from.
	Go back.
	It's not our problem.
	It's not our concern.
	Go back.
	My heart is cold to a pleas of mercy.
	Yeah, my heart is totally closed on this one.
	No, you've got no business here.
	Go home, Abdul.
	Curious looking Abdul there.
	There's this video of just some English guy, some Londoner, who's being confronted in London by a bunch of Muslims.
	He's just like, you've got no business here, Abdul.
	I love it.
	Anyway, so that's great.
	And, of course, Trump is sending 1,500 troops to the US border to secure it, with more to follow, apparently.
	The Department of Defense has sent an additional 1,500 in addition to the 2,500 National Guard and Reserve Forces there already.
	And there are apparently more to follow.
	So, basically, Trump is...
	Apparently, really fulfilling his promise to begin the largest mass deportation operation on day one.
	Well, it seems to have begun.
	Which, again, is great news for my American friends.
	I'm so glad you guys get to have a win.
	Don't let them let up.
	Make sure that you do your part to help the Trump administration get rid of foreign violent criminals.
	Because they are a danger to you and your family and your friends, and they need to go back.
	I feel so much better now.
	I know.
	I have a weight off my shoulders.
	The thing is, I'm so jealous, man.
	I'm so jealous.
	I want to be a bounty hunter.
	That sounds so cool.
	He's keeping many of his promises, yeah.
	He really is.
	He's just going hell for leather on it.
	That's right.
	Auslander Aus, says Sigilstone.
	OPH UK says, at least they don't eat elephants and hay to you, bigot.
	Just cats.
	Yeah, well.
	I like cats more than elephants, really.
	Well, I like elephants.
	I like elephants, but...
	There are way more cats than elephants, so I'm okay with them.
	That's true, actually.
	I actually don't want elephants to become extinct.
	No, of course not Neorealist says There is actually a closet wish in our Circles on X For a cop-style reality show Of the Ice Raids Yeah, see, if this was being done in the 90s You would have deportations And it would have like a cop-style Trump can afford a 24-7 deportation channel where it's just live feeds of families being torn apart, and I'd love it.
	No, no, no, they won't be torn apart.
	They'll all be removed.
	Well, torn apart as they're deported separately.
	For safety reasons.
	I don't know if that'd be necessary.
	I think Tom Homer would be like, no, it'd be more merciful to deport them all at the same time.
	I'm not feeling merciful today.
	The point is, they need to go.
	And it should use Vanilla Ice's Ice Ice Baby song.
	I was sent yesterday a meme by Arnold and say, the Iceman cometh.
	Please do it still.
	Oh, that's good.
	Dragon Lady says, why do all these illegal aliens keep coming here if America's so evil and racist and oppressive?
	Well, people like to be oppressed.
	They've got a kink for it.
	Bobadad says, a thousand deportations a day?
	Those are rookie numbers.
	You've got to pump those numbers up.
	Home at the top, his watchtower.
	I'm picturing it more like Isengard.
	When Saruman is up there.
	When they're discussing the invasion of Helm's Deep, it's like, there's no such army.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Lord of Nothing says, I'm in Mississippi.
	I'll be keeping my eyes out for illegals.
	There's a thousand bucks in it for you.
	Good for them.
	If you do get that grand, please send us a video comment of them getting arrested and deported.
	Homan keeps this up and he'll be president in 2028. I doubt Homan's going to try and become president.
	Ideally, what you want is Vance taking over and just keeping Homan in his place.
	He just loves deporting.
	Yeah, he will do his job and wake up in a grateful universe.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, he will.
	You can put up a statue of Homeland, by the way, when this is over.
	On the southern border.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	When he dies, put up a statue of him just gazing out at Mexico.
	Just a giant Statue of Liberty-sized statue of him.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Maybe...
	I just love that.
	He's wrong.
	He is going back to Haiti.
	The statues of him throwing a small Mexican child over the wall.
	I just love the, oh, no, you can't send me back to where I came from.
	It's like, really?
	Why did where you come from suck, right?
	You know, like, this is the thing that always annoys me.
	It's like, you make your country suck.
	Like, Stelos, if you got deported back to Greece, it wouldn't be like the end of the world, would it?
	Not that we would deport you, obviously, but...
	Let me be clear.
	I'd leave before you deported me.
	To be fair, you're more than welcome to deport me to Greece.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Lovely food.
	My mum goes on holiday in Greece all the time.
	The point is, no one goes on holiday in Greece.
	I can go back to Greece.
	You can live my life.
	Neil Muralis says, I saw a press conference held by a Latino Democrat politician, Hiram Monserrat, on behalf of Latino residents of AOC's congressional district, pleading for Trump's DHS to deport illegal alien criminals.
	And that's another thing as well.
	There are going to be loads of legal aliens, legal immigrants, who are just like, yeah, no, I don't want the criminal element to come here as well.
	Like, you know, I left my home because they were there, and now they've come here.
	Can we get rid of them, please?
	Bald Eagle says, it's funny that legal immigrants are turning in the illegals.
	Yeah, and they should.
	They should.
	Look, I have my pass.
	I have my papers.
	I'm not getting deported.
	Tom Homan will come in and get rid of you!
	The Engaged View says, look on the bright side, honey.
	You won't have an 80% chance of being raped on your way out of the country.
	That's true.
	Can we deport all the historical women, not just the foreign ball bombs?
	No, unfortunately.
	Imagine that, just a state made up of entirely hysterical women.
	Imagine the uproar when they can't open a tin of something, or like a jar.
	You should look into the, sorry, that's a random name, says you should look into the Stargate announcement.
	500 billion for a super-AO that will mass-produce mRNA vaccines.
	Yeah, I've seen something about this, and basically, I think that they're just trying to get ahead of the technology, just so they're the ones in control of it.
	I don't know, though.
	It's a sort of arms race, isn't it?
	Yeah, it is, yeah.
	Sigilstone says, put up many Homan sentinel statues on the border that shoots lasers from his eyes against anyone crossing illegally.
	And the engaged few says, erect a statue of Homan putting a chubby Mexican child over the wall.
	Well, a lot of them aren't Mexicans, that's the thing.
	A lot of them are from Central America.
	Can I say something really quickly?
	Because I saw one or two comments on the chat saying me that I was silent during the third segment.
	I'm upset for my segment.
	Nothing.
	It's not that I... Don't worry, Stelios.
	We're keeping you.
	Stelios is actually lawfully in the country.
	Europeans are welcome.
	Asperger's and Fry says, glad you're feeling...
	Oh, sorry, let's go to the video comments.
	Oh yeah, of course.
	Or I forget.
	Oh, nice cheerful one.
	Oh yeah, Jesus.
	I found myself thinking about the liberation movements in Africa during decolonization and how most of their direct action was really just random Africans breaking into houses and murdering white people and not being too dissimilar to what we see in places like Southport.
	And naturally, after their people took power, all of them were released from prison.
	I can't help but imagine a lot of these perpetrators are angling for a similar outcome.
	Being third worldists, I have little doubt that they are not aware of what their grandfathers did to gain power in their homelands.
	Something to keep in mind.
	Yeah, it's...
	Genuinely terrible.
	It's like you read my mind on what I was going to cover.
	It's perfect for my South Africa segment.
	Honestly, if I was in South Africa, I'd just leave.
	Just get out.
	Let's go to the next one.
	Oh, Stelios, here you are.
	I'll go and do it.
	Base tier list.
	Stelios has a level head and does a great job to carefully guide people along each step of complex philosophical topics.
	He has something unique I've identified to keep us all in check to not let the fervor to save our communities and peoples become an excess and waste time on silly ideas.
	He invented the concept of woke right as a thought experiment and realized it wasn't really a thing and threw it in the trash.
	Stelios goes in the S tier.
	Thank you, California.
	You know, have you watched Westworld?
	No.
	With Anthony Hopkins' character.
	He said, the others are the visionaries.
	I'm going to actually make it happen.
	By the way...
	Have you noticed, if you go back to that previous video comment, S-tier Stelios, B-tier Bo, C-tier Carl Callum and Connor, I'm starting to see a trend here.
	D-tier Dan.
	Yes.
	I'm going to be F'd.
	I have a J or F'd here.
	I'm going to be the lowest.
	Oh, no.
	Oh, well.
	I've changed my name.
	Let's go to names.
	My middle name begins with A. Videos of serviced online of a group of teens flirting with death on Sydney trains, all for the social media views and likes.
	It needs to be seen to be believed.
	My solution?
	Send them to military school.
	Or Cub Scouts.
	Or anything.
	Because these kids are bored and they are looking for a thrill.
	Yeah.
	Very true.
	I will say, failed compilation videos are among my favourites.
	There are videos of people just, you know, trying to, like, do, you know, pre-climbing or whatever, and just falling off buildings and stuff.
	Oh, they're horrible, aren't they?
	I know.
	The thing is...
	Makes my stomach drop when I watch those.
	There's a part of me that's like, well, you know...
	You chose to do that.
	Yeah, I don't feel bad for them, but I'm horrified at what happens.
	Yeah, there was a guy in Spain, an English guy, who fell off a bridge in Spain.
	I'm just like, you know, if you're going to go free climb a bridge in Spain and then drop 150 feet...
	It reminds me of a phrase I find a little bit annoying, that, you know, you play stupid games and you win stupid prizes.
	I mean, that's literally what's happening to them.
	But I think...
	It's just a replay stuff of these videos in my mind.
	At some point I showed one.
	I think that was summer 2023. It was me and Connor and he just couldn't stop laughing.
	There's someone jumping off a cliff and it's...
	I don't know.
	I think he survived.
	Right.
	But because the segment was ongoing, I said, okay, let's just trust me, bro.
	He's okay.
	Yeah.
	I've just got no sympathy for it at all.
	Just you're a moron.
	You're going to jump off a cliff.
	You're just a moron.
	I'm going to climb up.
	And there was another guy as well who was climbing like a skyscraper and fell off.
	And it's just like...
	Actually...
	I would disagree with Frank Cooper.
	Craig.
	Yeah, because if you have such morons going to the army and it's an issue of boredom for them and they do stupid things with guns, they could actually be harmful to the military personnel.
	I'm not worried about that.
	I actually totally agree with Craig.
	You've got a lot of bored men sitting around.
	They need something to do.
	Tards go on the front lines.
	No, they're not going to do that.
	It should.
	Yeah, but it's not that.
	They're looking for, like, thrill-seeking, right?
	And so, yeah, okay, go get them to do something.
	Don't we have a cloning empire?
	I'm reminded of the Battlefield Bad Company games, where they just had the, you know, the companies of criminals, and they'd just send them out and do dangerous missions that were too dangerous for the normal soldiers.
	That's perfect.
	NorthFC Zuma says, let's be absolutely clear.
	Keir Starmer has defended people very similar to Axel Rudakabana.
	Even if it was under the...
	Cab rank rule, you still can decline those cases.
	Well, it's not even that Keir Starmer has defended these people.
	He has gone over to literal jails full of child murderers and said, what can I do to help?
	And he did it for free.
	He did it pro...
	What's the name of the term?
	Ratis or something.
	Pro bono?
	Yeah, pro bono, that's it.
	He did it for free.
	Keir Starmer's probably sat there going, God, I'm just an Axel kid.
	I feel so sorry for him.
	It's just disgraceful.
	And North FC Zuma says, Yeah, another way of looking at it as well is like, Why should he outlive the parents of the victims?
	Why should he outlive them?
	The people you're talking about are people I actually have met at the university because that was my...
	Speciality.
	You have a lot of people who will look at crimes like this and they say, okay, let us give a human perspective to the murderer and they want to constantly present the murderer as the victim.
	Oh yeah, I know.
	I hate it.
	And I think that the human perspective is one.
	I saw Jonathan Pye tweet out, yeah, I read about this case and then I get really angry and I want the death penalty for him, but then I realize I'm not a bad person or something and I don't want it.
	And it's like...
	So the natural human thing is, yeah, well, that guy deserves a death penalty and Jonathan Pye has to kind of mind kill himself.
	No, I'm a progressive.
	Let's give him a house or something.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's like, no, the correct human response is not to flay him alive.
	You know, like that's the correct human response.
	And every second of the day that he spends existing on the earth is a moment of injustice that we're creating for those parents.
	So anyway Baron Von Warhawk says I don't have to imagine it I once took criminal justice course in high school And saw an MS-13 member Who had worked with the cops And as a response he got stabbed 97 times By the other gang members For someone to do that to a child is beyond evil If the UK had any sense He'd be sent back to hell already So that's correct Josh Firm is the second coming of William Adams Who's William Adams?
	He was the English explorer who became a samurai in Japan Okay I think it's because I cover a lot of the eastern news.
	And I do have lots of ancestry that, you know, they were explorers.
	They weren't Japanese.
	They weren't, no.
	They were either Scottish or from Devonshire.
	But he says only 52 years.
	That's less than 10 years per person stabbed.
	Or 16 years in prison per person murdered.
	Should have released 300. I mean, just the rope.
	Just the rope.
	Quick and easy.
	It costs 52k a year to house a prisoner, says federal agent, which means 2.7 million to keeping this man locked up for 52 years.
	I could charge you 50 quid and be done with it.
	So annoyed about it.
	In fact, I do it for free.
	Yeah.
	Within the confines of the law, of course.
	Henry says the death penalty was removed when Britain was a high trust society where heinous acts were so extremely rare they became notable historical events.
	Now it's just another Tuesday.
	Yeah, I think there were like four stabbings, four mass stabbings yesterday.
	It's just ridiculous, isn't it?
	It's incredible.
	Was it in Plymouth?
	There was one in Plymouth.
	There was one in Plymouth.
	Do you know what I know about that one in Plymouth that they're not naming who it is and the local community is asking them to name them.
	Yeah, they're not white.
	Let's just say that.
	And they stand out in Plymouth because everyone's white.
	It's the last major city that's vast majority white.
	But that's the point, isn't it?
	And the thing is, well, you can see, literally, you've got the crime murders per year plotted.
	In 1965, it just starts shooting up and it's like, of course it does.
	Because, I mean, Peter Hitchens points out, the death penalty was used not as a form of...
	Like, you know, literally it stopped murderers from committing murder because they knew they'd just get the rope.
	And it's like, why do we stop that?
	Why do we want murderers to not think they're going to get the rope?
	It's also community catharsis.
	All you're doing is building up tension and resentment in your society.
	Stupid universalism that says that everyone is able to be persuaded to be good.
	Marvin Chris says, statement from one of the mothers, quote, I've thought many times about taking my own life just so I can go to heaven and be with her again.
	It's heart-wrenching how someone could be this evil.
	Short drop and a quick stop is what this man deserves.
	And that's the humane thing as well.
	I'm feeling way more pagan about this.
	That's the spirit.
	I was thinking...
	It's just a crucifixion outside of Heathrow, so when people get off the plane, it's like, yeah, okay, we're going to behave ourselves.
	What would Crassus do?
	I'm so, so sick of it.
	Baron von Mork says, if I was Jess Bezos, I'd sue those magazines and reporters.
	He used to term Amazon Khalid.
	Yeah, he should.
	He really should.
	He should.
	This is unbelievable.
	Arnold's virtue ethics.
	Maxim, what would the Assyrians do?
	Yes!
	Yes!
	They would bring justice.
	Oral authority to the Assyrians.
	When in doubt, ask yourself, how are the Assyrians?
	They have the death penalty for many different crimes, so I agree with them.
	Junzik Pursuit says, one thing prior to the sentencing that he was actually allowed to go to hospital probably prioritised over a normal person, would be untolerant.
	Yeah, I know, he should have just been flogged.
	Like, I'm feeling sick.
	Wow, how are you feeling now?
	Charles says, tyrants already kill people, the death penalty hands this power over to juries.
	Good point.
	Louise says, thank you for your ongoing coverage of the issues in South Africa, Josh.
	Thank you.
	George says, I hope that the BOA offered refugee status in Europe.
	They won't be.
	We will not do that.
	Maybe in Australia they'll do it, but we will not do that here.
	We could definitely use more farmers.
	If not, we could live to see a recreation of a famous scene from a Zulu movie.
	Again, I don't want the Zulu getting a bad rap, actually, because everything I've read about them seems pretty based.
	I think when there was the...
	Because the sort of Bantu groups that are causing all of this aren't Zulus.
	I'm not saying Zulus aren't Bantus, but it's a different group.
	Do you know who the Zulus really hate?
	Indians.
	I bet they do.
	Because when there was all of the disorder in 2021, they found all of the places where Indians were running business and burnt them down because they said that they were controlling South Africa and puppeteering.
	The hand of the Indians.
	Lars says, land reform in the UK when?
	Take it from the colonizers and give it back to the natives?
	Quick question.
	Sophie says, man, you know, I'd actually love to make an exchange with Africa here.
	We completely decolonize Africa and take back every single white person living in Africa.
	I mean, that can't be that many either, really.
	It's got to be, what, 10 million, something like that?
	It can't be that many.
	That's quite a lot.
	I would say it'd be even less after everything that's happened.
	I mean, isn't it something like 6 million in South Africa, 2 million in Zimbabwe, something like that?
	You're going to have pockets elsewhere.
	That's true.
	There's also not just boars in South Africa as well.
	There's an English population.
	Also, would the Netherlands even have room for a lot of the Dutch people?
	You'd like double their population if they were ethnically Dutch and they went back to the Netherlands.
	You could go to Australia or something.
	I like Dutch people.
	There's plenty of space in Australia and the Australians are probably like, yeah, let's have a few new towns or something.
	Stick them out in the stick somewhere.
	Yeah, I mean, to be honest with you, but then she says, you know, but then we have to do the same for Europe, so every African in Europe goes back.
	The terms are acceptable.
	Yeah, I mean, like, what's the objection here?
	David says, so much for the African rainbow nation.
	Yeah, that really worked out, didn't it?
	Multiculturalism again.
	When the farms collapse, the begging bowls roll out.
	Yeah, I know, and I will have no bloody sympathy.
	Unbreakable Litany says, African nations are a strange dichotomy.
	Of the four that I've been to, 80% of people want imperial Britain back to rule.
	Then you have South Africa.
	Yeah, well, I mean, at the end of the day...
	Is racism worse than starvation?
	No.
	Well, exactly.
	But that's the question they're forcing themselves to answer, isn't it?
	Was it worse that we were under a racist apartheid, or was it worse that we didn't have food?
	Well, they might also have to rethink the scales of racism as well, because they still had a decent quality of life.
	It wasn't like they were beaten down.
	You know, they might have been politically disenfranchised.
	Yeah, but it could have been a lot worse.
	Yeah, like they had food, so how bad could it have been?
	It's more oppressive under self-governance, really.
	Omar says, funny how the prosperity of a nation disappears when you oust the white inhabitants.
	I guess their shamans haven't figured out how to make the lightning come to the grid.
	How does the shaman use the lightning to charge the phone?
	Yeah, I didn't bring up goblins this time either, did I? Yeah.
	You know, South Africa, not as known for goblins as Zimbabwe.
	Andrew says, thank you, Carl, for ending on this higher note.
	Man, those first two segments were brutally depressing.
	Well, I had to do it, man.
	You know, thank God Trump is doing the right thing.
	He's sending back foreign criminals.
	Thank God.
	By the thousands.
	It cheered me up as well.
	Yeah, I know.
	How do you feel at home?
	Don't worry.
	It's not particularly fun to have to research these things.
	No, no, it's really not.
	Fuzzy Toaster says, empathy burnout.
	Don't care what sob stories they can tell me.
	Don't care about the cost.
	The gravy train is gone.
	Its wheels were stolen by, quote, asylum seekers and refugees.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I'm exactly on that point.
	It's like, no, no, I've got no sympathy.
	Oh, I came all this way from Peru or something.
	It's like, well, that was a mistake and you need to go back to Peru.
	So, Peru's alright.
	Yeah, there's nothing wrong with Peru either, so piss off.
	George says, it's surreal to see such efficiency from a government.
	You know what?
	That's a great point.
	I had not thought about that.
	We don't normally see this level of government efficiency, do we, Josh?
	In anything.
	I specifically mentioned recently that the fact that Trump is promising to do so much on his first day is like a breath of fresh air.
	He's getting stuff done.
	I know.
	I'm pleasantly surprised.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, me too.
	A beautiful example of hitting the ground and running.
	On the flip side, it just shows that the government always had the power to do mass deportations but lacked the will.
	I mean, remember, they brought over like 120,000 Afghans in two weeks from Afghanistan.
	So they know that they can mass move people if they want.
	They just don't.
	And Biden had a bloody app to help them get in the country anyway.
	It was all about will.
	If they can bring them here, we can send them back.
	Yeah.
	Kevin says, the deportations is like taking delivery of a new car, Josh.
	You have to break it in gently for the first month before you start pushing it to the red line limit.
	Once the breaking period is over, you can give it the welly.
	See?
	But again, I think it's just about infrastructure.
	Getting it all done.
	I want to break in the car when it's under warranty, so I push it to the limit within the first month and then be nice to it afterwards.
	I know, it's just...
	No, simply.
	Alfred the Beta says, Be Josh.
	Watch crying illegals at the border.
	Sip water.
	This was tears of deported migrants, by the way.
	Again, I've just...
	The dude who's like, I'm not going back to Haiti, it's like, I mean, look at the contortion on his face.
	He looked like a violent criminal.
	I'm not surprised he's got 17. He should have been dragged back down to hell.
	It's like a comedy.
	Thank Biden, thank Obama for everything they've done for me.
	It's been forever, bro.
	If you had, in a skit, written that, people would be like, come on, they're not literally going to call out Biden and Obama for helping them be criminals in America.
	He was also talking about Haiti.
	Like, you know, if you're casting a demon back to hell.
	Reminds me of the end of the Tenacious D film.
	You'll never send me back to that hellhole.
	Why did we allow him in?
	He just doesn't like the taste of cat.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, on that bombshell, we are out of time, but we have Lad's Hour in half an hour, where Josh will be taking us through what animals would win in a fight.
	I don't know why all of the Lad's Hours in the last couple of weeks have been about fighting.
	Feeling punchy.
	Yeah, I enjoyed these ones more than most.
	And the answer is The Tiger.
	But we'll debate that in about half an hour.

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